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before this County this city this state country we come with honest and sincerity in our heart the do say which is right to help our citizens fall in to do and divid plan that would be beneficial for us for
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one item off consent to uh we did have an addition 9 a then we moved 9B we brought it from consent to 9B and then as well as uh like move request to move item nine our
budget discussion right after our consent items is there any issue with that no issue with that uh we will obtain a motion to approve the agenda second second all in favor all right we're going to our
consent item everyone had a chance to look over your consent items any questions approve have a second all favor to it n now board to further
discuss the fiscal year 2025 2026 budg English yeah I mean in L to the discussions that we've been having on our budgets uh we we know we got some tough time coming ahead and we figur that we
need to get some information out there so we all got something to work on you know so these are just the some items that I have have have pulled some info from and requested the info and it's the these are just the
Constitutional uh offices and budgets and and where they are and where and I'm just going to go over really in no specific order uh just you know the budgets and recommendations that I did to constitutional offices uh I did get
some I had requested some in on the insurance which I didn't I didn't get that till today so I have any to B on what I have yet so so I mean I'll just go over you in no particular order to Constitution officers and some
recommendation proposals and what we could do there um I got the uh Sheriff and and this is really just off of our last approved budget our 2024 2025 budgets so we got the share
for at 9,253 th000 today I would recommend propose a 15% reduction that would be basically a one
1, 388,000 uh moving on to supervisor of election uh today the uh approved budget is 7 733,000
to our tax collector uh I got today our approved budget is $43,750 proposing 10% reduction there that be the Milli 121 664 10% there that would be
11,166 that those numbers would total up to a m722 596 um so like I said this is just a start for numbers just to to get us started and
open up discussion for for for other options you know um we do one sent money I know we we split that in half between the hospital and the sherff and that's another roughly I'd say it's I don't
think we have a definite number but it's 1.2 1.3 billion I think so uh that mean if we I'm not saying we keep all that and do anything but if we did then we're looking at roughly $2.9 million is and
we're look and we're looking for 3 3 to 3.4 million that's that's what we got to go find that's based on the numbers our property appraiser have presented to us a little
while back at one of our meetings so I said I I do have some some maybe some health insurance numbers but I don't I didn't have I didn't have a chance to go through that to to give any solid recommendations so and I just really was to shoot from the hip so that's what I
would propose POS that we teally look at doing I mean if if anyone else have any other recommendations I'm I'm open now we do I I have spoken with the administrator and uh there are some
other line items that we probably could cross out we just need to kind of really go through those would have find too calm to see what see you how it would affect any organization in in one way or the other so I think I know she
had mentioned roughly a couple $1,000 there the other day but we just we did we were just you know talking pretty quick just name some items so uh I mean there any other discussion any other questions yeah so the the total was 2.9
is that what you said that's if you that's it we we kept the entire onent money which that we we've always lit have to the hospital and half to the sheriff I mean that's that would be $2.9
million that reduction fromti offices and roughly 1.2 million from money that was 2.9 billion and you
with that I mean I know our property operator has ad mentioned 3.3 3.4 but it could be more than that you know whenever whenever we get Sol yes that was
2.9 including the 1 cent money if we no um if we decide to keep the on set the 100% of the on set sales tax then we would have to um comrad would we have to have
change what would we have to do because right now it's earmarked for Capital Improvements and not operating funds so we would have to change that right by doing what I'd have to research
that I'd have to research that for you do you think we can do that or do you have to research that too I think I have to research that too okay so so until until we hear about it from our attorney we can't really make any
decisions because that's what over a million dollars so if we can't do that then that brings us back down to basically 1.9 which leaves us Wally short yeah bring you back down to a
million 722 what it would bring you back down to based on see it would bring you bring us back down to a milli 722 if we could not do anything with the one set money yeah and
so we got to figure out what are we going to do to get to 3.1 to 3.3 million other than raising taxes fees of special assessments and piing it out of the
reserves I would yeah I would caution the reserves because I mean we know that it's a minimum three years before we see any type of businesses come in and bring any Revenue
to this area and that's just a minimum so if we start it now and you already know you're going to have to to it for the next two to the next three to four even five years do what if you start that practice now yeah then you'll end
up in that same practice the next three to four to five years hon with I think none of us would be sitting here if we started that kind of practice and and it could be longer because we're not guaranteed that that we'll get anything
um and I know we've got people that are working very very hard and doing everything they can do but there's no guarantee that we'll attract any businesses and like you say it's going to be qu a fall before we see any
revenue from so um to hear from our attorney he able to get that Mr chairman you made the comment that it was 50% for the shareff 50% for
the hospital when actuality it's 20% to the shareff this year of the one cent sales tax money 25% to the hospital the rest the county keeps so it's well I mean I guess we split 50% in half so the number is actually we gave up 5% this
past budget year so we went to 20% on the 1 C money but that's where our capital outl for everything else comes from so if you cut that out you got to come up with it somewhere else and you're talking 1 Point how many million for the
sheriff a milon 388 based on I told you before the only way we're going to get to those kind of numbers is a decrease in force reduction in force there's there's nothing else there that we could do except reducing the force and you're going to have we're
going to have more arrests at the jail you're going to have immigrants coming in that's been mandated by the governor has been mandated by the president we ain't going to have no choice but to take care of them there's going to be more of those on the street I don't mean to be speaking for the sheriff but I mean I'm just pointing out the the
obvious facts it's you you to get to 1.3 you're going to have to cut Personnel that's the only way to get there and then you're going to cut services and ain't nobody going to be happy I just know no business out there there's no
business these are all businesses this there no business out take a loss like this and then not have to make a change also I don't think you're taking into account the budget is
9.1 but you get back almost $700,000 you get buddy $565 5,000 back from the school board that goes directly to you from our budget and you get a I think it's $200,000 from the city right
at it for the dispat center and then you also get the reimbursement from the 911 money that you put up front so yes our budget up front has 9.1 million but you're getting almost a million dollars back that's reimbursed from other areas yes 92 yes yes you front it up
front but you get that refund back I mean that's just num that we would yeah but I mean I mean you need to be aware of it that yes you front it up front but every quarter you get a portion of the school of the 565 and and the school only gives us
salary money they don't give us any money for equipment for fuel for for anything else yeah I'm just I mean but so I letting you know that those go back into your coffers directly to you they write the check to the board of County Commissioners they don't write them to us
to confirm do this if we get this $700,000 back then where does it go it's just all got to be looked it's all got to be looked at sit here and not talk about it all fall on De ears and then Here Comes July budget season and
we going look here and say we not done and and if we didn't do anything then it's the wrong thing to do I mean I just needed you to know that that comes back off of the yeah 9.1 so it's really if you take a a giving back almost a million then
you're looking at really an 8.1 million budget for the jail and Sheriff's Office not not you know there's no guarantee that that we that we continue to get that with the way things are but you know it's tough It's it is but now tough
everybody and you know we P are charged with balancing our budget and I don't want have to make any Cuts but we are where we are and we have to do what we have to do I understand understand each
constitutional officer and I I understand every Department nobody wants to cut I get it but we have to we have to so the school board has by law they have to fund the U school resource
program they have to fund that salary so you you will get that the city pays half of the salary portion for dispatch that that will continue as far as we we haven't been notified by the city that that would not continue um and then of course you get
money back off some of the grants and stuff that we write to at the end of the year as we turn it back in so we're going to just this stuff's going to have to be laid out I mean G have to be laid out on paper to know exactly what because no nobody wants to
be you trying to hurt no one no want to do anything for any personal reason I mean I think we all see the situation that we're in that we're going in we're faced with and it's just not going to be any easy fix to turn it around overnight and
before we go to raising taxes I mean we have to just cut bot line off of some of these the budgets you know and I didn't I didn't add the public work to the road department because there's really been no increase there I think we may have
had a decrease if anything that that's what I that's what I saw the numbers that I have so I didn't and and we're you we're on our rolloff side you know I mean we're in a we're we're in a crunch over there with equipment you with
trucks running and such as that so I mean we but that's all another line item of of a solid waste assessment falls under a solid waste assessment so started here uh you know we got some insurance
numbers and I do know that that's insurance is what really keeps people attracted to these jobs here but uh so you know we just we have to look at all of it we can't just go and just look at certain pieces we have to look at all of
it so I've just made some recommendations and if there's $700,000 coming back to the county that they needed to confirm that're getting $700,000,000 back and then where the money goes it go back
in it go back in the pot what do we what do we what are we us it for [Music] it like say something in the half of a hospital part of the one the hospital contract says they supp to
do M but they got a grant to get $1.6 million to put a roof on a hospital roof that was old year 20 something years old and they got that done they they've
already put that it's going to get put on it and uh they got that gr that saved us $1.6 million because we would end up that wasn't M that was just wore out and we would end up spending $1.6 million
putting the roof on the hospital so they've got a lot of things that's going south at that hospital that they hav to work on besides maintenance and to keep that thing going they really got it in the best shape it's been in years and it's it's it's running up front like it
should finally after all these years and I sure don't want to put them in the Buy far you people got to have a hospital want put that out there I don't think we want to put anyone in a buy but
again we're we know what make the decisions that's going roughly a minimum of $3.3 million they've already they've already th $1.6 million in the F themselves by getting that gr Cory Simons helped them
get that and got that money for without that they would we would have had to come up with that 1 Point want of the people to know that but I don't mean to be throwing rocks but the hospital contract also says that
they would provide the ambulance service and we're doing that now and that's what I million dollara about 800 and so I mean you know we took we took that off of their hands we did that to help
the county that was we had to we had to take it over we had no choice it it was our choice we could have left it the way it was but it would cost us a lot more money to do it the way it was well let me see
yeah the money we was given the hospital was 25% one 1 C Sal that money hadn't built up any we was give it it all out every year or were we it has it's built up some and
and they are trying to expend it but it's something that you know we have to help it it goes through the county we don't you know we don't provide the funds for them we make the purchases on their behalf and are processing those I think about five at a time so there was
maybe a couple of years that they did not expend the money and now they are expending it absolutely and I you know I agree we need some hospital we need some Medical Professional Medical Services but when time comes and the budget get
tight we all need to stop and look at it and say maybe we don't need to spend the 12 uh $250,000 this year out of out of that Missour for the [Music]
hospital and I know it's tight but there's other things uh we probably should look at uh the school board was paying how much to the city and the county for resource office just s alone that only do they
just pay it to the county I think I think the current contract is 565,000 I didn't bring that exact figure but I believe that's what it is Governor come down here and he said he didn't ask us to do this he said you going to do it said we had to get it
done yeah mandate with that compensation we we got it done with what we had you go back to the governor and tell them hey you mandated now compensate any other questions discussion I mean if
there's nothing else I may just wrap up this discussion with say I just wanted to mention on the um health insurance you know one of the things we talk about this year was biding it out and looking at some
different plans like maybe some lesser plans or something like that and so I think that's I would like to see the board go that route and try to and probably can save the same amount of money or or more instead of making the employees pay more because I feel like that's going to hurt our participation which then in turn will probably hurt
our our um loss ratio and our renewal so um you know see us talked about it before about doing that and I've told the insurance agent and they're ready to they're ready to bid it out and see what we get and we
think should we should uh be Ave we should we should do that how long is that process um so I I believe that we have to start it I think in I think we have to start it in May don't we I think we
have to start in May and get the numbers back in June I think so it's like a month process so um so yeah so we can they could probably do it a little bit earlier they like to get as much data as they can on the current year before they do it so probably looking at the first of May we
can ask them to go ahead and roll with that see what we get I think we I think we would get a good rate but you have to see but so maybe we can have both options on the table and we get a good rate or something that save us some money that
way if if we could get a a better insurance rate that's what we should be doing but I'm a little hesitant when it comes to to our employees having to pay
more for their insurance policies a lot of people work here because of the insurance and they're dependent on that you know what what we could do and I don't want to go into a whole lot of specifics now but before
we punish the employees um let's look at the travel leanda over every uh constitutional office and every Department how much annually do we spend on travel I don't know I'll have to check
let me guess it's really not come back with a figure but it's not that much we we could cut out I'm sure several several thousands of dollars if we cut out paying for travel and I'll tell you some
people say well this is required but when when people came to work for the county I'm sure they knew that they had continuing education or something and um just cut just don't don't pay for the travel that's one thing to consider
before we punish all our employees owned two apartment here that look like is over a million dollars advis election is 400 is what $700,000
tax tax collectors 413 big budget but it's not big could what's the other one how much is 76 121 9.2 million so said when you take all
his out it's about 8 something just kind I would like to see the Constitution officer tell us we know what you want but this is what we can do and we see where we at
you know if we have to go back to the taxpayer and says we need to raise millage or we have to go to the taxpayer and says got servic are you willing to do that what are you the taxpayers doing
better bottom line if we cut anything say am I right sure and there's no way to get it you ain't got it you ain't got it I would like to see the what Constitution to tell us we just got to
have this yeah I mean I make a I have made a recommendation I do to follow up on the the recommendation I mean I would I think Bishop check on the one set money to see what could be done there and then
maybe W can we check on the maybe the roughly $700,000 that were that's accounted for in the revenue so it's it doesn't it's not it's it's part of the offsetting revenue for the sheriff's expenditures so it's already part of the budget was that your question it's
accounted for yeah I know you mention there was 700,000 where does it go do we see I'm sure we see that M but gu no it's it's part of the it's it's part of the calculation of the
revenue so it's it's no different than a department that's funded by a grant it's you know that's the revenue offsetting the expenditures right Gary right yeah it's already it's already budgeted allets expenditure so you know you can say it
allets their budget I mean they got they got an expenditure budget and it's with you know have taxes and with this money so still the budget is not extra money it's not going to we're not going
to add it in you look at that's the expenditure but we do get we do get Revenue in for the the things that he it's already accounted for like I said recommendation to you that just for everyone to look at and
for everyone to go at the budget and have our next budget discussion I'm sure maybe we'll get to that toward the end of this meeting so really start on because we just we can't
keep kicking the can down the road and and not do anything we got to come up with numbers and we we've got to have you we've got to kind of get our duct under before July gets here we can't wait until June and July to start talking about it and I think that's why
we've been having these budget discussions so I need to start moving on some numbers and if we cut this what look like and what we where do we got to get we I think you the last thing we want to
do is raise taxes I think got look at when we can make some Cuts that's not our first order of businesses to raise taxes and then make it out of the reserve you did exactly what you were
charged to do at our meeting last last week and that was we were going to come back with some numbers that we felt like that um that we needed to do to balance this budget and that's what you did and I I commend you for coming back with
these numbers you can't keep kicking that bucket down the road if you're waiting for everybody to say well this is how much I can cut we're not going to get there we are not going to get there and at the end of the day the boat stops
with us okay the public is only going to look at the five of us okay so keep that in mind um and I I am not willing to raise
ad taxes or anything else pleas special assessments until we have fin these numbers that you're suggesting here so that said I think we have some direction
Something to work off of Mr chairperson do you want to discuss during the march Workshop give everyone enough time to March 25th they bring back this m all right we
will back to public request Robert doer to appear before the board to request life Robert in the build on the live [Music]
so and anyone that doesn't know this is in reference to the spring War acquisition second table table this all favor out we have a signed contract but I'll reach out to
him go to at 9A under General business the board to discuss garbage and trash as attended by commissioner Wonder can you give us uh the status of the um rollof situation in
terms of the trucks yes so um we were able to acquire a new um truck last week once the board approves the invoice tonight we should be able to get a tag and have it um on the road tomorrow we
have um as of today we had two operational rolloff trucks that would add a third and we're hoping to have one of them back out of the shop tomorrow so that would be four trucks hopefully for the rest of the week running we we think
it will take probably a week and a half to get caught up because we are receiving a lot of of debris um but um it would having four operational trucks would make a big difference we had three trucks running
on Saturday and we're able to get quite a bit done but they seem to be filling up as quickly as we're emptying them do you how many drivers do we have we have four drivers so we have we have plenty of drivers we do and we have a part-time
driver we're getting ready to hire on our biggest issue right now is we don't have a mechanic but we received an application today so um it will we will process that application what is the salary we're offering that
mechanic I don't know it off the top of my head but I I I don't remember what the starting salary BR back to so um how did it just so happen that four
trucks or three trucks four trucks how did it so happen that four trucks all went out at the same time basically bad luck I would say it was just bad luck he do but a lot of these trucks
have high mileage on them and honestly you know we we were able to purchase a new truck last week but we we could really use another new truck and I'll bring that back to the board for discussion how long were the trucks out of commission oh it's been I believe at
least two weeks where all of them were before we just had one so when that when that happens even if it's one one Tru that goes out um who um who who repairs them is local or do we have to send them off it
depends on what's wrong with them we do have we utilize Schwab and then we also utilize next Tran depending on the issue that we're having those truck that we have at next Tran um has not been repaired as of yet the two trucks that
were at Schwab I think were there at least two weeks and we were able to pick them up either Thursday or Friday but then um Saturday we had an issue with one of them that was unrelated to the repair so uh so the two weeks that
they've been in the repair shop what has what's been the hold up uh waiting well waiting in line for someone to work on them and waiting on parts I think the parts have been the biggest issue Parts have to come from I
don't know I don't know where they so so I would suggest that when when this happens and that we don't need to wait on parts okay we can send somebody to pick them up I don't care where you have to go
send somebody to get them that's just good business to uh put somebody on the road let them go get those parts because it's critical that our trucks are in operation I'm going tell you why if you look at these roll offs in the shape they're in let me tell you something
you're not getting beat up staff is not getting beat up yes ma'am the five of us are being slaughtered and I'm telling you the things that people are saying about us is really really hurtful
okay they want every one of us to be replaced because we're not doing our jobs and all everything that can be said about us five is being said and I don't like that I do not like that um and as
you can see we take the blame nobody else gets the blame it's us file that gets the BL that's why I'm trying to wonder if there's any way that I can offer any suggestions or any help because it's going to come back on me
and and the rest of them and I don't like that I try to do my job I understand I don't like to be criticized when it's something that if we need to go get a part get on the road and let's go get it I don't think it's that simple but I will double check on that well
because I don't know where I don't even where the parts are people will know where they're getting the parts from and we if we have to rent a truck and go get it or I'll drive a truck and go get it I don't care where it's at just tell me where to go and that's what that's what big companies do they don't wait two and
three weeks for parts they send somebody the next day whether they have to go to Miami Atlanta wherever they go they they go and get those parts to get this job back back up and running and that's what that's what we've got to do we got to think outside the box well and and we
did now we did utilize pops as much as we could to help us that we had two trucks on Saturday um to try to help us get back in line and we had either one or two days of previous week they did help us with trucks but I'll I'll double
check on the par that's all well and good but up until Saturday two weeks ago we should have had something going on that we could get these trucks back in in service soon as we could um so I'll
check see if there's any opportunity I'll check and see if there's an opportunity for us to to pick up parts our I'll check now what about the truck that's still in the shop what's this what's what's the status on it uh that is that next TR I believe that's a part
issue they telling you what's wrong do they need a part I'll check me tomorrow let me know because if they're waiting on a part let's offer to go get it Mr chairman um is the necessity there
with the volumes for the contractor to continue on sat and is is please open that uh well what did he say just said is the necessity there to use the contractor on Saturdays get that
available if is open that's my question Al is open they're going to be open until April 1st April 30th like that they're going to be the contract spoken with the administrator and understood that we had all the truck
issues I did recommend us maybe even reaching out because it is out of the norm to have 90% of your Fleet down so to speak yeah it is that's that's not nor situation so I did ask the administrator
maybe to reach out to let's see if we could get some capacity in here to help it's not idea and it cost us more money but we still are charge to Ser citizens and OB we were left along but uh so uh
so yeah I mean I I would say that that need it we may not need it when we get our Tru running and get CAU up well just understanding that we you had such an accumulation and then once you kind of have that compounded you got to you got to try to
catch up and then keep up and if we're having issues that can kind of recur if we're not cautious but one of the questions I did have I was asked by a resident at the alel site is there or
could we request if there isn't an area that we know is clean which is is not causing tires and other repairs that have to be made and and you may know about that I'm not familiar safe but I wanted to be able to to quantify to our
residents that we are trying to take all the measures we can to not have self-inflicted repairs and such whether it be tires or whatever else may come along with that but I I wanted to ask that question that that was an issue in
the last two weeks um flat tire and then also um one of the days the the wiring and some of the other components were actually ripped out from the truck and that that happened I think about two weeks ago I did reach out to the landfill I haven't received a response
to see if there's anything that any way we can work together just to keep our you know keep our trucks on the road I know last week Monday we ended up with four flat tires um after after going to
the rollof or excuse me to the Lan fill so I haven't heard back from John yet on that did assure that they had were keeping this area protect or some of these issues
with these tires and then the one truck that tore some of the electrical components out from under it because garbage like this and not to mention drivers having to get out and walk at yeah that's
compound so you did speak to him and he said that he would that's well his thoughts that's not really been an issue but apparently it is an issue because we're we got people talking about it so see you know the the one of the
problems is is that some roll off attendance are telling these people we can't take it take it down to the road and don't get off and I had one person that tell me this week he told me to take it down there and that's what I did so this this
just gets worse and worse and worse by the hour and that's why I'm trying to help you to come up with some ways that we can move this along another thing that I thought about you know was just trying to think outside the box would
there be any truck that we could borrow from another County probably not but it doesn't hurt to ask and then we can always rent a dump truck and an excavator and let them go take this stuff out of the out of the bins um and
then we could always designate an area at the rollof to let people just put their stuff inside the roll off even if it's on the ground rather than to have them take get by the road which they're doing and it's just going to cost us
more money and more money that we don't have the more they do this we got to stop the bleeding we've got to stop the bleeding and so we can't let this go on so if you can find out about this other truck I will and um give us an update on that if
somebody needs to go get a park or whatever but we need we need our trucks operating and when this happens I'd like to be notified so that when I have all these people calling me I'm not sitting there saying well I didn't know we had a
truck out or whatever you know I want to be able to know so I can tell them but I I thought I and I apologize I thought I updated last week ma' yeah but when it happens oh when it happens I'd like to
know I just don't like for you know people that I work for calling in I don't know anything about what they're talking about I think somebody had a question if you call Bri Lon who family owns the recycle center here in town you
can uh ask Brian if he can hit first round capacity and pull some loads for you over to Greenville and if you want his number if you I'll leave him Al so if you're having problems with nails and tires where got trucks now
over if you go to Northern Tool online purchase a bar magnet as it's called or a for Cliff magnet they're about you think Thomas about 100 and a quarter piece and would if someone would drive through those Lanes each day and pick up
those nails that are in people's tire and your tire that's happening at the landfill you actually buy one on Wheels I mean it's wonderful and they're cheap I believe if you cut your cost in half on that if you take it to a manand saw
and cut it in half goes twice as far so the four trucks are out out of commission are the drivers doing pre-trip that's another thing that could also help is are do is the county own these trucks yes so who are they doing
pre-trip on the truck every day that they're running it to help utilize and help you guys understand these are the repairs that are need for these trucks and if I can speak to that truck company in three different states and I will tell you that it's postp re that TIR
flat on the start of the next ship you know it just happened overnight that's what the Federal Motor Carrier the truck seven days a week is the BL open seven days a week or just Monday through Friday Monday through Saturday now
is Monday through Saturday right now right now now this is under the governor orders 11 hours [Music] [Music] day he did not say that they were going
to expand those hours because of the time I was probably just about say for three Mar I'll get that action I just heard conversation okay so again we are expecting to have four trucks on the road tomorrow one of them being the
brand new truck that was just purchased we're um hoping to have a tag and have it added to Insurance because it has to be done before we put it on the road um and then once we receive the truck back from next TR we'll have five
and we will be in better shape with five D for all five of them you have drivers for all five them we should when we have if we hire the part-time driver but it even if not it would be good to have a spare so so if one truck goes down we'll have another truck ready to go and I I
will bring back for consideration to the board if if you want to purchase another truck um we would have we should have another one available around June right so hold on just a minute so um you said
you've got five drivers then we should have if we hire the part-time driver if you do one I believe we'll have five if once a new hire is put on the payroll but I'll double check can that department manager drive a
truck uh no I don't believe either he doesn't have the CDL license no I don't believe that's not a requirement no it is not maybe it should be um now what about the uh trash on the rway I
mean this is out of control and especially now that people are being told to dump their household harbage there so do we have a plan yet of what when and where how is this going to be taken care of people are killing us over
that so as far as I know all of the bag trash was already removed from the RightWay and all of the tires were removed so that hopefully will leave what will be um what fot will pick up
but they're they're not done um as of now they as of the last report they had 25 trucks on the rideway cleanup and had removed 700 a little over 710,000 cubic
yards but it's 1.8 million estimated so they're they're not complete it's not complete yet they have started the the non-count maintained Road um trash removal debris removal and they've got
somewhere between two and five trucks on that daily it just depends but typically a minimum of two and that's will and good but who's going to pick up what's left all the household garbage and all of those things who's going to do that and when well I would assume we would
wait until F dot is done since we've removed all the bag debris and then go back and clean up what's left or what's put out after the deadline so just to understand and I might not have heard you right but fot
has has finished with some of them right so are there any left over are there any that still have the stuff that they won't pick up there may be but uh we have not finished going we got a pile of them today and Hank is going through
them now to see if there's any debris remaining and we'll go back we'll either send code enforcement out or we'll pick it up so and code enforcement's going to do what well if they know who generated the debris if it's land clearing or something like that and we know where it
came from they will be asked to remove it and then I I kind of see that's being problematic but it's it's worth a try but so why can't we move quickly on that and try to get this stuff cleaned up
we can I just don't I mean I just hate to pick something up if we don't know if do will pick it up or not well they've already said they're not going to pick up nonstorm related and it seems like to me there's a lot of nonstorm related right I'll go over the
list with Hank again I'll go over the list with Hank again on that topic I think the best way how many do we have that they consider complete probably about 20 or 25 at this point so
I would say and and what's going to come back that looks just messy to just me is even after do is picked up you uh we've got household trash out all of there's still going to be a lot of just the
people where people ride down and it looks like folks have rid under Road and just thrown it out window the truck but in actuality it's probably things that's blown off the trailers maybe blown out of these trucks it's picking this debris up so I would say the we probably should be looking at
these roads been considered complete and the crew whe it's inate crew or whatever start sending these guys the quicker we get it up out of the road and the road looks clean then the quicker we look to be back to normal remember the any of
the roads that the contract mowing crew is is going to mow we will be asking them to to start on the trash removal so as those roads are clear our Public Works director is going to communicate that to to the company and ask them to
go ahead and start on the trash the removal on those was that part of their contract no no we we'll pay them so we have a cost from them to complete just the trash removal on those roads which is about the same as we would pay for a
mowing cycle it's in the budget they missed a mowing cycle this Year anyway so what we'd like them to do is to clean up the roads where they're comfortable that it's not going to you know mess up their equipment or it's not going to
sling something you know out and hit somebody's windshield or damage their car we'll get started on those as those as those roads are cleared we'll send those is the plan that Hank and I talked about so are we going to wait until it's time to start mowing or we're going to
go ahead and start cleaning the roads now no we would to go ahead and start cleaning the roads now in preparation I know that's why we need but I don't want them just to mow until they're comfortable with that those roads are
clean see the longer that it stays there and encourages people to keep throwing stuff out you know whatever whatever it is but I'll tell you one thing that we we need to think about and I hope we never ever ever have another storm like
we've had but I think if we if we face this situation again that we try to work with f dot that that they they have some that that the um contractors have somebody with them and when they use
those I guess those ex excavators and put it on the truck that they've got a crew right there with them that RS and gets all that stuff up otherwise it's on us to have to do it so theyve got a crew raing now they do huh they have a crew riking
now they got they got a here with a rake on it and that on bucket Road there above by the airport they come back where all that house debris was and they raped every bit of it not a hand rate
exavator with a a skid steer they had it on the W Creek Road just this weekend but even at that that machine still not going to get it all it won't get it all it's just you got to have somebody doing what this crew you guys talking
about is coming through and picking this thing and cleaning up new roadways prisons those three and not prisons but three labels we got we do so that was what I was going to try to say next if on the roads that the the
contract mowing crew doesn't clean up we'll have we have our storm removal crew out cleaning up those roads so what are those people doing now uh they well they've been doing they've
been um like trimming limbs any anything like that's been sticking on on the RightWay they've been working on that anything that um the the contractor didn't get they've been going behind them and cleaning up are they picking it
up well they it there they're picking it up we got to pick it up because that's just cutting it because of the M crew can't get through that's still I think they are saw I think they are picking it up do we know or do we have an update in
respect to concrete that will probably be that so construction debris is the last thing that they're going to pick up and every time I ask about concrete they tell me they will get it but it will be at the end of the of the oper
for areas where it has built up to a large amount been notified about a couple of those um my presumption is that Do's aware and they would typically be who would be staging that debr that's my
understanding doesn't seem to be a removal of location and I'm assuming it's because they have part of their process moving forward in that I want to try to ask I know they did stage some concrete down on the south end of
the county and are the last I heard they would go back and pick that up but construction debris is the last is the last thing they'll pick up and they're still picking up vegetative debris and hav we gotten a percentage of
completion my no I asked today if they had an end date in mine but like I said you know they've picked up over 700,000 cubic yards and the estimated was 1.8 million so they're they still have if if
the estimated is accurate I don't know if it is or not one more question um and I don't know how many calls I've had about this house that was tore down on Johnson rlin
Road who is going to pick up that whole house my understanding is that do will pick it up they will yes we have several houses um that are in the right of way that they need to pick up even if it's
mixed yeah I I don't I don't think that's an issue I'll check again okay thank you but that again that's construction debris so that would be one of the last things that would pick up yeah I I thought that if it was mixed that they wouldn't pick up anything that
was mixed so it's mixed with with what just it's just Building Material it's it's really probably concrete and building material as far as wood material so it's it's not mixed with household trash it should it's still construction debris I mean I understand
what you're saying that it's not separated but I don't think all I'll check on that again I don't think that's going to be an issue okay thank you you're welcome all right we'll move on to count staff item 9B the board to
consider approval of proposed ship hrp tur recipients and the invitations to bid for the Demolition and construction of 11 new homes agenda by hey everybody we've got 11 houses that are currently
qualified we will um they are Sheila and David H Patricia Brown bety to Ellison Kathy Miller Christina and hugger sharen PHS Diana Lee Karen Ed
Linda Kieran Charlie and Amelia Gray and Johnny and Brenda leet 10 of the houses have already been determined as demo and new construction and I will need the board to make a decision tonight on
Karen Everett her house is kind of at the 50/50 Mark the issue is it would cost over $70,000 to rehab it but it has an assess value of
$63,000 so it is up to the board to determine if you want to rehab it or go on and do a demo and reconstruction on it since um you know the the rehab would be such an exorb amount to do so I do
need you to make a decision on that one and we also need the board to um identify if they are related to anyone on this list that's number eight I'm not related in Rel relation to the entire list um
Jamie I'm not related not related commissioner figel not related commissioner not related commissioner Newman not related not related cousin cousin other question you didn't hear was
everen how how you would like to for with that normally um if it's been 51% or more disrepair we of course do Demolition and reconstruction but hers was right up 50 mark But when you take
into account um how much it would cost to repair it it would cost more to repair than the value of of the home so it's your decision on how um you would like Mr chairperson Melody I'm sorry I
thought of something after we spoke earlier if that's changed to a demo replacement we have we have the funding to do that without affecting those 17 that we know will be qualified
right that's correct we have sufficient funding to to to do a demo and keep in mind we were very concerned um on on this particular house that there would be considerable change orders along the
way too so I I I personally think it is in our best interest to do a demo a new constru ction because we are investing in these homeowners and um you know that way we would know exactly where we're at on
this Su or two instead of having so much um so many questions on on how this will turn out I I I do think it's um and I discussed this with Miss Wanda earlier that I think it's in the County's best
interest um to look at as an investment and Mo for at the demo and and also the homeowner has agreed to the demo that's right I demo all right so someone can we obtain a motion to
approve this list and along with Karen ever being a demo replacement motion to approve second second by commiss D all in favor thank you thank you so much and
and hopefully we're back with you in the very near future with the other six that are part of that 17 we would like to very good thank you so much Mr chair I I don't know if now is the time or um
if we want to wait but we have a couple of ladies here that had U one of them had called me today and she had some complaints about out and some uh issues with this company Cent and so she's here
and would it be now the right time for her to talk since we're talking about these or do you want us to wait until this a non-agenda items sure is uh yeah I mean she can come up and talk to is that one of the ones on the list that we just
approved no and and when she called me today um she was telling me you know the same old same old that we've discussed for several meetings and um no they keep asking her for more things and she also
and she'll tell you that um they have told her they just emailed her again last Friday for some more stuff and they're telling her that um the $25,000 um SBA loan that she got would
have to be deducted from her new home and I I just didn't think that was right but anyway it's Tabitha uh Gillard if you want to come can she come forward tell them what you told me
today yes um I did my application like I said over a year ago and we have to keep calling them calling them calling them calling them and I finally got hope to some guy named Cameron and then he told me he was going to look into it then he came back and then he started the process
and then now that Miss Reynolds back they are currently working on and told us gave us the resident verification form and had us to sign it so I thought we was in phase two now they keep telling us like today I got an email
they want me to prove what I did with 25,000 that I got from a SBA loan they first called me and told me I had a business I had to prove where I had a business I said I don't have a business maam I gave you all my tax return I gave you everything that you asked and that's
the thing they asked us to get this stuff from the application now they requiring all this extra stuff the change all type of stuff to meet their criteria and I'm confused because the application didn't ask for all it but I
am doing everything they ask we know she's one of the seven7 do we know m was one of the seven she just told me I'm in phase two and she just keep asking me for stuff asking me for
stuff even my her right here we kind of corresponding with each other I got I like say I got a phone call today and they asked me on my warrant be my house is in um my ma name which is Bishop um I got married in 2008 a six
and my husband died in 200 um 8 so they asked me to provide my marriage license I did that they asked me to provide the death certificate which I felt like that was very personal I had to provide that they called me today and asked me to go to
the clerk to get a quick D sale to myself to change my name from Bishop to Smith because they want all up they say it was mandated that I had everything to match my driver license my social security card and all that all that
still say I'm today tradition Smith and I told them my name is the only name in the universe with this name but now asking me to do a quick de sell to myself just to change my last name to Smith to support the other documents
when I had to provide my birth certificate and all that but they want me to do that that's what they sent me today send me something in writing where the state is requiring me to do a quick DET to myself that's likely I may have to pay a fee that no one is providing me
assistance with they haven't responded back to me yet I don't see and I told her if they told her that today that would be my next step because my thing everything was tab up the GE yard now I'm tab the r which like I say they're going to make me I
didn't change my name or nothing I just left the G yard so I wouldn't have to go through that changeing command changing everything I don't know that we'll have your answer no I'll I'll send an email but you're listed is Tabitha Gillard
Ross so that's the way you're listed in in the table ma'am can you tell me your name Smith s a d a y t r i l last name Smith and I will say I know they came to this board meeting
last and they did allude to new rules that do come to them you know maybe even monthly from I guess it would be the the fee or the ship actually I think actually from the
banking group no we are following up with everything they say just the thing that they want us to keep like I feel like I told them they was working backwards because you should have never asked me to sign and have a resident verification form done if you keep
asking for all these documents so if you will maybe IFA she's got maybe she could help follow like I told her I could have got $1,000 long but I don't want to be in
debt I had to come out I could have got one and they didn't even ask for half of this B and this was through the SBA okay and he even said if I put the property up but that is not what I wanted to do
got set up I'm about to go that R that's the case CU what they doing is just too much you out find that they uh told her that that the $25,000 loan that she took out a loan that she's going to pay back
why are they saying that they will deduct that from the cost of her home I she told me example of cuz when she sent me that I was actually driving when I checked the email and I stopped side the
road and told her could you call me soon as possible like if ear convenience she said well the reason why I'm asking this is because I said ma'am listen my stuff is all of author all put up I didn't save stuff because I didn't know I had
to prove I just had got to come out and do the repairs and the guys to come remove trees I didn't know that I was going to have to prove to you what what happened with the $25,000 but you're welcome to come to the house and see what has been done and she told me they send expector
out and if the expector come out and don't see the 25,000 put in the house then that'll be if um I'm awarded 50 and they under D whatever then they got to pay the $25,000 loan then that's that's what I
told her I say to be ex with you I had a whole year will be the first year I got to pay the first payment I said I'm going to pay that this month so I don't get it why if that's part of it I understand and I told at this point if you do 25 that' be fine when are y'all
going to get started it's over a year ago I I will I'll follow up cuz I told her if you do 25 whatever you do I'm going to have to complete the rest cuz you see 25 didn't do much move on
Adat the board to consider approval of resolution authoriz chair agreement f152 Florida man chair just before you go s David ask S David you you have a statement she she
did just with her yeah no I have a stat I had issues with them too even like um I got 5,000 for FEMA and I provided them that but they making me do the same thing which I provided them documents um they already sent the
inspector out to check the house maybe a couple of months ago but uh he told me to they it wouldn't change anything but I'm just not clear as to be working backwards that I'm changing my name and the bishop is my name but they
want me to do a quick deal uh quick detail to myself just to change my last name to Smith All right so item 10 actually my cover page was wrong and
I apologize I I just need the board to adopt this resolution authorizing the chairperson's signature on the state funded Grant agreement number f152 so the board already executed this agreement um FD to us after the fact and
ask for a resolution a motion to read the resolution BYT a second all in favor resolution by the board of County commissioners of Taylor County Florida authorizing the chairperson to sign the
state funded agreement number f152 with the state of Florida Division of Emergency Management motion to approve motion by commission fav to approve the resolution second second and we've already approved the agreement is
that move to item 11 the board to continue discussion regarding the potential sale of a portion of hon Springs pared by the County Administrator now I will leave this because I did bring this to the you may have put it under administrator I need
this so we I did I brought this back some time ago and uh the potential sale of you we had a existing business that was looking to expand their business and uh was interest in obtaining a portion you know
6 to8 AC 6 to8 Acres of this side again this is not anything to do with the ACT this is not any and it's on the screen here uh the the portion that're that we're referring to it's directly behind the
the uh existing RV part there and it's nothing to do with the actual uh Hampton Springs uh historical sit so to speak where the restrooms and even the it doesn't go to the river doesn't go back
to the spring it's just a a wooded area that uh the the uh business owner has interest in obtaining to expand their business um now he is aware they are aware that this would have to
go out to bid so it's not just a a grab it you take it and grab it so that that it will go out to bid so I think tonight we don't we haven't necessarily this board hasn't really approved the intent to sell a
portion so I think what we have laid out there is about 8 Acres that what how many that's about 8 Aces there that in the blue part there with the green that's in in the red and just the wooded okay and any of you I
don't know if any of you been to Hampton spring and been around any of that W that it's thig piece of woods that no one ever steps foot on so uh we have not approved the intent to sell I think
order we would have to approve the intent to sell and then and then we would have to probably order an appraisal survey and an appraisal and a survey and an appraisal and I would need um the funds to do that which would be
at least well approximately $5500 spend that until the sale to place yes yes sir I'm sorry I said that you would not have to expend that money until the sale
actually came came you know to FR well no I apologize so I I would think that if the board is and conr help me if I'm wrong but if the board intends to sell that parcel we would need to do a survey and
an appraisal so we can identify what portion they would be interested in selling and the actual value I wonder how are you going to anain market value so that would be what would the appraisal would do for us good for the cas because if the cojac property owner
was there you know the higher value would be paid by somebody that you know I'm here you never be able to ascertain True Market are you you mean after the property was I'll pay you I'll pay you more since that's close to me I'm not going to tell you that but I mean that's
typical usual usual custom so what I would anticipate is that um if the board if the board with wishes to move forward then once we obtain a survey and and an appraisal
then at that point we would um advertise for bids and then go from there correct Conrad yeah okay just like we do it any other time just like we do it all the time
so so you know I if I remember correctly when this first came up I don't think it was 8 Acres I thought that it was just 3 or four acres but without going back and
looking at the minutes I'm not quite sure of that but even though this is not um where the hotel was and and all of that it's still valuable historic
property um the whole that all that area is is still historic property and it belongs to the people of Taylor County it doesn't belong to us five to make this decision this property belongs to the people of Taylor County and I don't
think that this board has any right to sell property especially historic property uh now um I know that uh Mr madly wants to put a a a a a camper trailer park in and um you know um and
he's and and it's been it's been talked about how many new jobs this was going to create well has he has he told anybody how many new jobs this is going to create because I can't imagine that a little camper Park would would um
provide very many jobs and I'm sure they're not high paying jobs at at that and then um it was mentioned that well it would bring in adalum taxes we don't know how much that is because we don't
know the value of the property but I would certainly think that if if if y'all go ahead and uh your intent is to sell this public property that belongs to the citizens that you would have to find somebody that is versed in the
value of historical property not just uh some property out in the woods somewhere this is I think it would have a much higher value than just any P um don't forget the bed taxes too say
again don't forget the bed taxes too talking about yeah well you know that that's for what this property is worth to Taylor County and the citizens of Taylor County and future uses of of this
property and we don't know if if these people that are working for us trying to bring industry in here if they're going to find somebody that that piece of property down there might be just what they need and if we sell it for a little
camper Park then uh we've lost the opportunity for a developer if if somebody like that came along and that's quite possible so I I I just don't think selling this property um we need to hang
on to it there's not that much that'll come to us in terms of few jobs or I can't believe the abor would make that much difference to us if we need that let's make let's continue with what we started us let's let's do cutbacks to
increase not to sell valuable historic property commissioner I would respond and then what you said Mr Pig is I mean I don't have a problem there's 38 acres there and I don't have a problem and have mentioned that prior discussions in
reference to Happ R let's go down the path and put a few down there we still got 30 good Acres there's 30 good 32 good Acres there to put a site put to put a museum that talks about this Hampton spring that
really a lot of people may pulling there don't know nothing about it you see a wood there see some Trails Mr Mr commissioner uh I totally agree with you George I'm sorry sort of soft spoken anyway I totally agree with you to be a
great place for Museum and all because you realize that that's probably within deep of where you know herand Doo came through and when he came through back in back in the olden days step up to the m please oh sorry I'm not I don't speak
real loud I don't have a lot of L volume since my I had cancer a few years ago so I don't have full use on my right l so my apologies if I spoke slowly it's of interest to me you know nobody in my family I'm sure ever stayed at Hampton
in or the Hampton hotel there they may have um you know sold some need or something like that but it's always been interest to me since I was a young kid in Jefferson County and a guy named mad and some other folks did some stuff there for students so the students were
allowed to come so we all bust in so I found it extremely interesting to uh see the site and see how things were laid out but you know a lot of those programs and stuff like that either not funded or don't exist um any more it was really great to see that
it really did and yet that water does smell like you know what oh s for Springs typically do but that's my that's my interest my two c were I've always been Place fascinating and it was here for a long time yes sir all right
thank for your time I will in your discussion commissioner now mentioned that with our tcda that you mentioned that we shouldn't be selling our citizens property but in your same discussion you
mentioned that well maybe there's another use that our tcda can find for it so it's either I don't want to bring this back up but I hate for this to sound like a personal Vendetta to not allow this property to to this potential
business to potentially expand their business over hey we don't really want this person to get it but hey we're okay if down the road is someone else comes along and we've talked about this before and I'm just I don't know what it is but I just know how it sounds when
it's presented to me that way okay let me just say this I would hope that the tcda would bring in something other than a little campgr I was hoping that and I'm thinking that that and I know they're not looking for a campground they're
looking for industry that would uh that would put a lot of people to work and bring in a lot of taxes people would move here and buy homes and so um I don't think that a camper uh Park is the best use first of
all I don't want to sell it because it's historic but if you do I sure don't think that a little camper Park is the best use for that property we need to hold out in case the tcva does bring something that will be of value to this
whole Community not just to one person we got a good piece of property across the highway a big piece of property that would be fine for business that's straight across the highway from that that ain't nothing but a scrub out there next to that river right there and they could put his camp park across the road
too and leave our historical property alone for a better use is the property going to be of historical value or industry yeah one or another we keep saying maybe the tcda is going to bring an industry to go on the site but wouldn't the industry actually also
destroy a historical consideration right so my my um I guess view here is if we can come to a point and and this business owner can expand his business that is economic development and that is also helping in assisting in
the bed tax or bringing tourism here this could help for the potential I believe our current board is very familiar with what we said in respect to the the um trail system that we wanted to have in place out there this would
make um an opportunity for that in a consideration to have that amenity um at the said point when we're fortunate enough to have those trails in that place so if we're talking 8 acres and you're going to retain 30 isn't that what I'm
understanding here the potential is to have an 8 acre parcel of that could be bid upon for that potential use if it's historical why is it being sold anyway that's what's wrong with the
United States they want to sell off the historical stuff and and turn it into something that our children don't even have a clue as to what we had at one time or what was there for them to enjoy if the money's big enough all the stuff
leaves and all we have is that kind of stuff that comes in we need businesses in around here the beach needs a store we need a Dollar General we need a a Dollar Tree we need
a Family Dollar why does the city have four and we can't get one down there where there's nothing else amen sister at the beach you don't mind yeah you fixing have a Dollar General down there I would hope so it's about time we've been hearing that for three years now
yeah yeah well I mean if I I just I think I think sometimes our priorities are wrong as to we might get more people to come and visit Hampton Springs if it was set up as a Historical
Museum then if it's a trailer park cuz we got enough trailer trash in Taylor County now that we don't need more trailer parks to bring that kind of stuff in but if you're going to build Hampton Springs Museum people will come
and see that I think you have the potential to do both a 30 acre parcel and a 8 acre parcel why couldn't you do both area that not talking about putting it there where the spring is this is a scrub between Rockies and the edge of
the park there right but if there's trees left I wouldn't tear down the tree anyway I Delia and Helen did enough tree damage for us to tear trees down or cut trees out cut natural Wasteland and stuff for a a camper trailer so if it is
a historical site as everyone is saying when you buy a historical home there is restrictions you can't do anything to that house without going to a board or to the historical society and say hey I would like to change my flooring in this floor because that's what it is when you
buy historical property so you as a board and whoever else can come up with guidelines of what can be done if you sell it to this gentleman you can say Hey you know you can put your RVs here
but this is your restrictions you have to if you have to think historical and I see where you need to bring in some money but this year is a way to have a little bit of both yeah why don't we put it before the
voters next year if and see if the citizens of tayor County want to sell this property and let let them decide instead of four people here decid we sold tayl County property right down there at the beach say again we have already sold Taylor County he did and I
wasn't for that either I know but we got some Revenue out of it we getting tax money out of it we getting tax money out of it now we weren't getting anything out of it we were we were having to spend money to keep it clean yeah but it's not it's it's not enough to make me
want to sell County property especially historical property and you mentioned economic development uh that little py bunch of little bit of stuff down there would not be considered economic development in my opinion well I'll say
this I am glad that this initiative to sell a portion of this to allow a an existing business to expand their business I'm glad to see that's finally
brought some attention to the Hampton Springs Park well I think prior to this initiative half the people that talks about this has not even driven in there and seen what that place looks like and we had a tenant there we had to hire a
tenant there just to keep the place from being trashed up and the park is still going to be there as it is so the same I mean the the the Hampton Springs Park is going to be there as it is but I'm going to say it again that yes we do need need new
business and yes we do need to allow our existing businesses to expand if we see a see an area where they can't expand without damaging the historical part that's been in place for years the park will be there I say it
again I mean let's go down the path to put a museum on the remaining property plenty of room there put them there and and and put put put some things there that that talks about this Park talks about what Mr Paige brought up here that put a building there that gets people to
go in and they can see what this park the history of this park and what it's all about cuz today somebody R up there looked at it they say what are they Trail walk back to a water hole and that's it the tree the the the area that we're talking about won nobody step foot
in it the way it looks today but just allowing a existing business to expand their business I don't have any problem Mr chair the next thing you know he'll be back up here he'll want to buy the rest of it because he approached me
several years ago he wanted to buy the whole thing so this so it was decided that that time that couldn't help that that that we couldn't do that so my guess is he'll be back until he gets old of it we
and this has been said at one of the other meetings that that uh they thought it was personal this is not personal this is let me finish this is not personal and I haven't taken $500 each each election cycle from Mr matley
although he tried to give me money for my campaign I never took a dime from him so that doesn't that doesn't flop with me neither you need a motion to go ahead and get I know some he did do you get do
you need a motion to go ahead and get appraisal done and a survey done on that we need a motion with I want to hear the law sure okay the board of this is
12535 part of Statute border County Commissioners is expressly authorized to sell and convey any real or personal property and to lease real property belonging to the county whenever the board determines in the best interest of the county to do so to the highest and
best bidder for the particular use the board seems to be the highest and best for such length of term that's if you leas it of course if you sell it now so the board has the right to in fact sell property and we've done it before it's
135 12535 now you go further and says when the board of County Commissioners finds that a parcel of real property is of insufficient size and shape to be issued a building permit for any type of
development you can sell it as has a value of less than $115,000 at a private sale remember we did that before when we found out a little piece of property that that wasn't worth uh $115,000 so in this particular case um
the board does have the right to um to sell property that's slw you know as a practical matter and it's up to the board of county commissioner to to determine whether it's in uh the County's best interest to sell I just
want yall to know the law on that and of course with a with regard with historical property historical property if you're going to try to get it on a National Registry of historical places then there's certain things that you
have to do uh the reason I know about that is because I have a historical place that uh we put on the national registry and you at that particular time there was no grants on that and you could get what's called a tax credit when you improved it but that this this
this is property that's not improved okay so that's where that's at that's I don't have any opinion I'm just giving you the law but it doesn't hurt to ask the public what they would like to do is the right
comrade if in fact you wanted to put it on a uh a STW vote uh that would be something to um we've done straw votes before you understand what I mean by straw like a poll prob pole I think you advertise it
you put it on the ballot anyway so tonight we would just need a motion on the intent to sell the portion the area that's laid out and
then I don't know if we would need a second motion or all in one motion it would be to gain a survey and an appraisal of the property you have to you have the motion have to also have to say that you determine that it's the best interest of the county to do that
too to what I just read y'all this is sell anybody you would have to it up don't have to be Mr so um can't you in a real estate transaction
require buyer to pay all cost like the survey and any other cost associated with that with that you put that in the in the advertisement yeah well if y'all going to sell it or put it out there I think that you that you probably should get
the buyer to pay all cost see there is no buyer yet any potential buyer that's fine there is no there is no buyer yet you know there's an advertisement that has to say it and you can put in the advertisement the high
and best bidder would have to pay uh the um the survey and the appraisal it could be all in part of the uh of the purchase and you can set a minimum you can set a minimum that you want once it's been a price and you can also put in it that
you agree to that you can reject any all is you know that's that's how you do that so has the has the actually been is it on the register as a historical site or is that just because if you've been here long enough you know it's
historical site is it actually registered as a historical site if not I think it should be done when we have the um all the loans that came in to fix it up what wasn't that because it was historical I will have to I will have to
double check I know that one of the grants was through the Bureau of his preservation get Melody on the phone and let's find out now where we use where we use the money of the grant within that Park Paving the road and cleaning out
that there at the [Music] spring built bathroom all I bu bathroom the question is um when when we got all the grant money to
reab H Springs and I think you know it was used to build the bathrooms and all kind of stuff down there was that um was that Grant uh got under the um God lines or whatever that it was
that it was a historical site yes we received the grant under the intention that it was the historical site and we were required to get State Master site number on it which it does
have we received three or four historic preservation grants on that and then we received the transportation what is now known as Transportation alternative with Transportation enhancement and we received that for it
to serve as a um Historic Trail Head site do you this is Conrad if I may uh do you recall there any restrictions on uh the alienation of that property I Believe Miss Wanda checked on
that and they told her that there was not however we were waiting for a response from SE as far as I know on um what the restrictions were as far as the grant funding I know the bureau historic
preservation told her there was none but I'm not sure on fdot Transportation enhancement fund that is federal funding and that that those those questions were asked a good while back not iated the bo
instructed to find out and I updated the board that it was approximately $700,000 if there was a sale of the trail head portion which this is well away from so this is so the par portion
if that was sold then we would have to use the proceeds up to and including $700,000 the amount of the grants on Transportation type projects so but this isn't this isn't that area where those
improvements were made now when I reached out to Bureau of historic preservation I believe is the name of the agency there were no longer any restrictions on on that property because it had been over 10 years yeah sometimes
they are um what they Sunset those those kind of things um I'll tell youall my building which is the old jail it was 20 years for 20 years if you came and wanted to um go through the building and look where we hung folks then I had to
give you a tour I'll give you a tour anyway uh you because it's kind of fun it's kind of interesting of the the history of that building but uh uh and we did get the uh like I said it's 20 years on that particular building
y'all so and and and do keep in mind the entire site has the master site file number on it so whoever purchases it will need to keep that in mind on any development that's thing that they do
because I feel sure that it would require approval this the whole the the master site file is for the entire site so whoever whoever bids on it they better
do their vetting before they before they bid right that's what that sounds like to me that's correct like if they go to do any development on it they would have to get um you know approval from the Department of
State good Lu across the street looking better so comrade I like you know your suggestion that um that that there probably needs to be a minimum vid we don't want to put it out there for the highest viid because
somebody could walk off with it for $225,000 you want to put in it there that you uh retain reserve the right to to any and all bids but I think that if you want to put a minimum on it you can I think until
you get an appraisal you don't know what to put as a you don't know what to put put that minimum as I don't think we're ready to put a minimum until we do get I feel like just at this point we're
looking to approve the intent of the seale and uh authorizing a survey in an appraisal and in the same agreement that we're uh buy the buyer will pay for the
all all the cost involved as well as we do have the right to reject any bids there's another alternative though Mr chair there's something called a stalking horse auction there two rounds of bidding first round if you win your
bid is the you know you have the right to submit the winning bid in the in the second round what it does is there for horses you know country folks like us have never heard of such a thing but in the second round if you won the first round you can you know the books are
open into you on the other bids so you can exceed their bid U I never had heard of it before in my life and I I went tore down a plant over in Lake City for the company I was working for at the time before I retired
and uh that's how that property was sold by the court appointed receiver and I thought wow and but I had to go look it up in a book because it was puzzled by it but uh interesting way and something you might guys want might want to
consider my suggestion is you follow the statute cor Mr chairperson if I may um I think what I need confirmation of is the size of the parcel if this is the if this is the parcel that you want
surveyed and and to answer commissioner fal's question I have the minutes with me and the original discussion was 45 Acres um how much 425 yes I think it was eight but just because I have the minutes in front of
me um so if the board will confirm if this is if this is what you wish surveyed and appraised um the intent to sell and then I will I'll need to do a budget transfer
um for the $5,500 I think is around what we think will need to do the survey and the appraisal and that will need to come from reserves so I mean I'm I'm good to put it at six or eight six
[Music] six have a motion with the intent I make that motion all the string t for the whole thing what we've all talked about we have a motion by commissioner Moody do we have a
second second all in favor all right we go to item 12 the County Administrator to discuss informational items we got comments and concerns from the public for on agenda items on agenda
comments concerns from the public you said there's a dollar store coming down door to beach when is that do we have a deadline do we have any idea and where's it going to be ma' the dollar store down I'm not exactly sure it's going to be somewhere along there
around between Keaton Beach and and the ni Beach Road somewhere what I've heard that's understand it too and when is that going to what's the deadline I don't know a deadline but you know once you see ground breakings if you stores there I just asking we've
been hearing that for three years I have never heard that but I have I have started hearing that in the last month I've being told that there was a doll General coming to that location they're going businesses are going
any else question yes um about the finance where you're going over the budget is there a way to get anything you're talking about the buckets that you're that we trying to cut on is there a way to get anything with the line items of what is actually in that in these budgets to be able to compare to
see what is being cut many like our constitutional items that we went over yes yeah I mean I guess you could give them public knowledge yeah you could it's it's on our website and and I'll be happy to show you how to find it if you
just come see me after the meeting I'll show you where it is is it when you like we're going to cut 10% here or and you can probably read the newspaper in the next day or so it's probably uh anyone
else well I wasn't sure Jim zerber hatching thank you chairman uh few months ago my wife and I made the uh offer to put that gazebo back the only Scenic Overlook in all of Ste ay on the Taylor County River other than the
bridge uh staff was hopefully going to come out and look at what a homeowner uh has one it's need a little bit of work probably a couple two2 or $3,000 gazebo if you went to buy one and we were willing to pay to get it put over there of course you know with the county
looking and make sure it's okay uh otherwise we're going to lose that opportunity cuzz the guy's going to do something with it he's going to sell it and uh you just kind of Wonder eventually we
got to start thinking down the road too you know what what are you saying it's where the west wind it's what I mentioned before it's where the West Wind Marina used to be and you know the developer put in the Gazebo and the picnic tables
metal ones that are they're still there so it's an upscale I mean this was the you know it looked like something that the landing would have right and it vanished during the storm and uh I think that uh the one
that she been everybody uh Mr demp has been down and looked at it a couple years ago when I thought that the developer the new people that bought it that County property so uh and anyway the staff can
you can direct staff to possibly follow up on that you know that person hopefully they no Mr chairman they actually have our staff is aware of the um owner and that
potential as far as maintaining that access to the for the public to the Waterway there that's adjacent to the boat ramp that parcel so our staff does have the contact information and U my understanding is that they were
making contact with this individual but this could be a um as Mr zerri referenced a savings this was a it's a manufactured so this wasn't just home homemade you know this this was purchased by a manufacturer and I think
our staff could certainly quantify its structure ability and um potentially save the cost of the the piece itself and then whatever we have for placement fees or removal and and
then but you do have yeah yes' J you said you was going to put yeah we at our expense unless it's two arms and a leg you know I can donate a
leg and I don't believe that the developer actually kept ownership over I'm not even sure if the county sure has insurance on that building I think W was going to look into that I think it wasn't even an
itemized it would be under what we would ensure we would not carry insurance on that so anyways it's uh believe me I looked at it I was impressed I thought it had potential I'm usually like everything pretty much first class again
and it has all kind of potential especially at a time like now you know yeah I mean we just need to to get the quantification from our our staff number one it structur ability and you know that we could safely transport it
and and place it there so so we you know we want to make certain that it's not going to create a liability for the public you it's obviously for Public's use the tables are still there they didn't go away with uh Helen
uho um I have no idea where it might have landed so um this this would be probably an effort that that would shorten the the process in respect to procuring and the costs of I have no
idea in today's cost what what that you know would would run our taxpayers so it would be a savings in numerous ways and likely uh could could be placed there in time for the season Gman of the public um going forward
good all right anyone else I have one more question sorry um so down at Keaton when the hurricane went through of course there is no more Heaton Beach restrooms or anything for the public um we continue to have public
people you know the public come out and go down there so is there um an agenda or a plan to rebuild what was there or even the dock there is okay thank you we have and
we have restrooms at the boat ramps um of course there are no restrooms left down at the beach do you feel like there's a need at the beach for restrooms yes yes okay let me check I'll check on that what is your name uh Lisa Wilt
wi didn't have to get in a car to go to the boat ramp to go to the bathroom you know they're not going all right we move on to board informational it do you know
um does um does pimple Creek I guess it's pimple Creek that runs through the city's part there that's Frank yeah but do you know does that
slide somehow or another all the way to Hampton Springs it goes into Rocky Creek and Rocky Creek grows into the F hallway goes right by Hampton spring into the in hallway okay so would that be behind the
property that's been considered to be sold or through it on the W side of it behind behind behind it okay okay cuz I I someone brought me a big notebook full of stuff today that
have been working on to orted a new adventure that started at the city and ended up down there so I I can't say much about it because I haven't obviously had time to read a book that bck so that that Creek that
you're talking about it connects to Rocky Creek on Woods Creek it's off of Woods Creek but it's on that it's on the land on our local land owner that owns a lot of property here for everything it
connects inside their property then it goes down across 98 okay all right I've fished a lot might take my kids and they fished a lot at that connection there with you got pimple Creek you got Spring Creek they
all flow into the same place and go into the hallway okay I kind of thought so but I wasn't sure and wood Creet too does Wood Creek comes underground and comes back up in a spring there off of out edes Town out here comes back up
right off the street the three three goes into it they all come in that hallway at some point right by three Nelson there that bridge there you get three n and you know right but it all go somewhere down 98 that they do they all
go in go into the hallway okay yeah that's all thank yeah I did get a compliment on the county cleaning up the Golf Coast Road and bucket road called me and asked me last week
then she called back and uh it's w she checks really it say she appreciate that [Music] effort we still got a lot of debris at that all right there's nothing else