What's up? H that's one too. >> Yes, >> they're good to go. Okay, >> we have a do not have a gavl. We do have a gavl. Don't worry. I call me into order. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, liberty and all. >> Hey, good evening everybody. Second sheets. I apologize. Oh, you want
to call the roll call? >> Here. Here. >> Here. >> Here. Here. Here. >> Here. and the mayor.
>> Thank you very much. Hello everyone. Welcome to the February 10th, 2026 open session meeting of the township of Tina Council. The township administration president at tonight's meeting are Jaclyn Hashman, our township manager, Kristen Denoria, our deputy township clerk, Scott Salmon, our township
attorney, Ron Goodman, our volunteer cable master, Mike Ash, our redevelopment attorney, and Golden McMillan, our township planner, who are on Zoom. Um, upcoming events for the public's information. We are currently holding a hybrid format meeting. We have people in person and on Zoom. If our Wi-Fi in the municipal building has an
issue where the Zoom meeting drops, we'll aim to retrieve the connection and continue the meeting. If you have not yet signed up for webs website alert updates and township alerts, please do so. The next regular council meeting will be on Tuesday, February 24th starting at 6:30 p.m. with public
portion beginning at 8:00 p.m. Our municipal offices will be closed on Monday, February 16th, 2026 for President's Day. Council met in close session to discuss the following: personnel, contracts, zoning, affordable housing, legal issues or opinions
regarding any items on the open session agenda, litigation updates, and OPRA. And with that, we'll begin our meeting. We are going to start with a presentation. Second, and I'll be making that presentation to um Ron Good to Sorry.
All right. Larry Bower, our retiring Kick Chamber of Commerce president. Larry are here. >> And before I forget, we um we're going to also be honoring at a future meeting, we're going to be honoring she's she's co-president, correct? Jennifer Glass, our co-president, will be honoring at a
separate meeting. So, I didn't want to start that without mentioning that. So, with that, um, everyone here or everyone in town hopefully knows Larry Bower. Larry's been um very involved with Tene for decades upon decades. Uh, his most recent, uh, accomplishment uh, was
retirement um, on the for the Chamber of Commerce where as president you served for 15 years, >> more seems like >> seems like more. Okay. So with that, the township of Tene uh gives this certificate of recognition to Larry Bower, our retiring Tene Chamber of Commerce president, and we thank you for
more than 16 years of service to the community just in this just in the Chamber of Commerce, not the other decades of work. So with that, we wanted to thank you. Um you you brought in some good young blood and we hope to work on those you take all your accomplishments and go above and beyond and keep it
going. So do you have a few words to say? If not, we just wanted to say thank you. >> Excellent. Okay. Yes, that takes 16 years. Yeah. Thank you, sir. >> Excellent. Thank you very much. >> Ellie,
we're going to say a few words about it. So, >> Larry, thank you for all your hard work and dedication for the businesses of this town. As a merchant uh in this community, I know how valuable the Chamber of Commerce serves uh what you do and how hard you work. And uh also I
think more importantly also the way you highlight some of the um superstars in our town every year. You know that has been a significant um addition to the chamber of commerce. So we appreciate uh the many um different programs that you've started and uh we're looking
forward to Aaron Klein and uh his leadership and carrying it even further. So thank you and wish you good health. >> Okay. We wish you good health and still be involved. Yeah, I just want to echo those thoughts. You're just been such an
unbelievable gem to this community and especially to the business community. Thank you for all you do and all you will continue to do. We truly truly thank you and honor you. >> Thank you, Larry, for everything. I think um the test of great leadership is when you stick around long enough to
find your replacement and then you continue working with him to make sure that he succeeds. and we know that you are not going far and that um your voice will be um present in everything that the chamber does going forward. So, thank you for all the years.
Uh, Larry, I also want to echo the sentiment that I know you've been around for a while because uh I I remember not just the gray hair, but the uh the fact that um involvement in the in the chamber is such a an important part for
our business community and as an as a business owner in town. I know the the the work that is uh that you've put into it. So, um thank you. Thank you so much for your efforts and the energy that you brought to it and I wish you the best in
the next chapter of what you do. >> Thank you. >> I do know that. Thank you. >> Larry, where do I begin? For those who do not know, Larry Bower is one of my favorite people. We serve together on the New Bridge Landing Park Commission. We're in Rotary. you're the president of
the chamber, but he's one of those people who cares so very deeply about Tene and we have a lot of them in Tene and we're grateful for that. But we still have to go to that Peruvian restaurant in Richville Park and get some chauffa. So please let me treat you. Thank you Larry.
>> Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Um and from that we'll go into our work session items. Um and miscellaneous first. Are you ready for this? I >> am. Okay. See what we got. All right,
I'd like to nom make some nominations for our advisory boards. Um, first for the ABCR advisory board on community relations, I'd like to nominate Leat Mafuda to full member seat. She currently holds an alternate
one seat. >> I'll second it. >> And you know what? I'll I'll list all of them and then Yeah. Then for ABCR, I'd like to nominate Sheruk Aadala to alternate one seat. She currently holds the alt two seat.
Um and then I would like to nominate for ABCR Yama Rivera um for the alt 2 seat. Next for PPAB, I'd like to nominate Michael Dodess to the open seat.
Um, for Shade Tree Advisory Board, I'd like to nominate Kathleen Lynn to one of the two open seats and Karen Fischer to the second open seat. And then finally for the Youth Advisory Board, I'd like to nominate Amanda
Meyers to the open advisor seat. >> Okay. May I make a motion, >> Mr. Mayor? >> Yes. >> I would also um like to nominate Ya Al Geller for PPRB. Okay. Excellent. So, oh, those
>> Geller. Y A L G- E L E R. >> Yeah. >> Second on. We'll be seeing them later in the meeting. Is that what we're doing? >> Correct. And just to be clear, there's one PP RAB seat, so we should all be voting for one. >> And now we're moving. We'll vote later for one. >> Correct.
And where's Scott? >> Do these go on next meeting or today? >> Yeah, they go on for next. >> Next meeting. Okay, next meeting is so we'll see that next meeting. Thank you very much. >> And and just one more comment. I just want to say there were so many fantastic candidates who raised their hand to um
fill a lot of these open seats. To those of you who may or may not be nominated, please please please um remain in the pipeline. We would love to see you back um when uh additional seats open up. So just thank you to everyone who came out. So many fantastic residents who raised
their hand to volunteer. Um wish we had seats for all of them. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you very much. Anything else under old business? Okay. Under new business um as many people here tonight, many people have voiced um their desires to see a
resolution be put on the agenda and voting on as it relates to the matter with ICE and our council members have have drafted something. Rather than go through the entire portion of the meeting and have to everyone stay here, listen to what is obviously a very important and sensitive matter. I'd like to make um I'd like to start that and
bring it to new business so we can handle that right now. Um with with that um >> I can make a motion. >> Yeah, like I can make a motion to second >> to bring that resolution now and have the discussion now. It's motioned by Deputy Mayor Belure and second by
Councilman Pagan. And if I can then turn it over to Councilwoman G to to begin that process if that's all right or or >> I'll talk about it. I mean >> Okay. Excellent. Please go ahead. >> Um there's a few things I would actually like to say. So some people have said that this
resolution is not needed because ICE is not a local issue. They say that ICE is a national issue. But I respectfully disagree with that premise because ICE agents have been in Teneck, in Hackinack, in Englewood, in Loi, in
Garfield, Ridgefield, Palisades Park, Cliffside Park, Fair View, and other nearby towns across Bergen County. This is a very local issue for us, especially considering how ICE was in Tene again
just last week on Palisades Avenue. And these ICE agents continue to terrorize our communities, rip apart our families, and jeopardize public safety with their dangerous secret police force tactics.
There are also some that say passing a resolution like this will put a target on our backs. But guess what? We have already been targeted. And it's because of how diverse and how strong our immigrant community is here in Tene. And it is because we are proud of our
immigrant roots here in Tene. There comes a time when you have to draw a line in the sand and take a stand, especially when innocent people are being killed and detained on the streets of America without warrants and without
due process. And to be very frank with you, local government is where democratic habits live or die. It happens in rooms like this, in council chambers like this. It happens in how we
speak to each other. It happens in how we speak to residents at the microphone. It happens in whether we protect public participation even when it is uncomfortable. And it happens in whether we insist that
power must be held accountable. And it happens in whether we choose to protect those who are the most vulnerable in our society and in our local communities. I don't want ICE in Tene. And this
resolution sends a message. It sends a very strong message. It helps remind people that we do not tolerate racism or hate in Tene. We do not tolerate injustice in Tene. And we protect our people in Tene. all of our people. So my
ask tonight is simple and urgent. Please do not normalize intimidation from anyone. Do not normalize dehumanization from anyone. Do not normalize the idea that rights are only for one side and
not everyone. do not normalize the idea that the law should be used as a weapon instead of as a standard. We have defeated hate before and we can do it again. Not by becoming what we
claim to oppose and not by hating each other harder. We do it the American way. We do it the T-neck way. We do it by refusing permission, by defending due process, by demanding accountability, by being humane in how we treat each other,
and by rejecting political violence, whether it comes from the streets or whether it comes from the language that is spoken online. I wrote this resolution right after our last council meeting, and I want to thank each and every single person on this deis and on staff who provided edits and additions
to this legislation. And I thank my colleagues on this day for letting me bring it to the floor together as a team. We all did. We all worked on this. And I want to thank my colleagues also for their willingness to move this up earlier in the meeting so that we can pass it. So I want to thank you all from the bottom of my heart.
>> Thank you very much. >> Um >> thank you for that. Uh uh tonight we're we're not debating an abstract. We're responding to fear that is real, grief that is real, and harm that is already happening in our community. In recent months, federal ICE agents have
increased their presence on in and around T-neck. Residents have been stopped, questioned, detained. Parents have hesitated to walk their children to school, placed them on buses. Workers have have feared going to their jobs. Families have wondered whether an
ordinary day could end in permanent separation. This is not theoretical. This is our lived reality. And when fear takes root, when people are afraid to call the police, afraid to seek medical care, afraid to participate
in civic life, the fabric of our community begins to tear. Public safety suffers, trust erodess, human dignity is compromised. Tene is better than that. We are a township built by immigrants
and sustained by diversity. According to the census, more than one in four of our neighbors is foreignb born. They are business owners, caregivers, teachers, congregants, taxpayers, and students. They are woven into every part of who we
are. This resolution says something very simple and very powerful. In Tene, every person deserves to be treated with dignity, respect, and humanity regardless of immigration status. It also says something equally important.
Local government does not exist to do the federal government's civil immigration enforcement work. Our police department's mission is to is clear is to protect public safety and enforce state and local criminal law. That mission depends on trust. It depends on
victims and witnesses knowing they can come forward without fear that a call for help could become a pipeline to detention or deportation. When that trust is broken, everyone is less less safe. This resolution does not defy
federal law. It does not obstruct justice. It does not prevent cooperation where legal uh legally required. What it does is draw a bright principled line around what Tene will and will not be
complicit in. Uh we condemn the use of excessive and unjustified force and civil immigration enforcement. We mourn the deaths of Renee Nicole Good, Alex Jeffrey Petty, Keith Porter Jr., and the countless individuals who have died in
detention, including Gene Wilson Burus here in New Jersey. These are not statistics. These are human lives and their loss uh demands accountability and transparency. We affirm that township services will not be conditioned on
immigration status. We affirm that no one will be uh registered or reported based on who they are or where they come from. We affirm that Tina will not depend its limited resources enforcing federal civil immigration laws unless
legally compelled to do so. We can affirm something deeper than policy that constitutional rights and human dignity are not optional. They do not disappear at the edge of federal jurisdiction. This resolution is also about courage.
Elected officials have a responsibility to speak when rights are threatened, not after the damage is done, not when it's uh politically convenient or uh when it uh but when it matters. Tonight, we are saying to our residents, "We see you. We
hear you. We belong together." And we are saying to our police officers and township employees, "Your mission is to serve everyone in this community fairly, lawfully, and without fear or bias." And we are saying to the federal government, Tene will follow the law, but it will
not abandon its values. This is not radical. This is not reckless. This is what leadership looks like when a community chooses humanity over fear. I thank my colleagues tonight in support of this resolution and thank the
community for coming out. >> Thank you very much. Anybody else want to speak? >> Um, really quickly, I just echo the sentiments of my colleagues here. Um, the reason this resolution is so important, I know many questioned whether or not it was necessary, is we
want to make sure all of the residents understand where we sit, understand where our police department sits, um, as it relates to these issues, and we believe that this resolution makes it crystal clear. Um, again, I said this last meeting, I'm the daughter of Haitian immigrant. My mother speaks with
a Haitian accent. She is concerned every day when she goes out into public that she will be potentially identified just because of the way she speaks and the way that she looks. I understand the fear that many of our residents are feeling. Um so this was so incredibly important to me and my colleagues that
all of you all residents understood where we how we feel about these um uh all the ice coming to Tene and how we we plan to react to it. Um, the other thing I wanted to call out and um, uh, Deputy Mayor Belchure mentioned this, but
there's a specific um, uh, clause in here that that flags that our governor, Mikey Cheryl, has announced the launch of a state reporting portal that allows residents to upload photos and videos documenting any activity that you may see. So, it is encouraged if you see
something to document it. It is in within your legal right and to share that so that there's awareness about what's going on. So, I'm I'm so incredibly proud of this council um that we were able to work together to draft this this resolution and I fully I hope that all of us will support this. Thank
you. >> Mr. Mayor, can I say something? >> You have a move. >> I think safety of our residents is all residents um has always been the most important thing for this council um or for any council. That is our biggest
responsibility. So whether it's um ice coming to Tene or COVID or weather or protests or any anything that makes anybody here feel unsafe. Nobody should ever feel like they can't reach out to
us. And so um I I am voting for this ordinance. I do want to say however um that the Tene Police Department has indeed followed the directive from the attorney general from day one. um they're committed to it and um we're
very proud of them and the relationship that they have with our community um is something that we're very proud of as well. So um on that note um I'd like Do we have a motion? >> I wanted to council.
>> Sorry. Sorry, Deputy Mayor. Um um so I just wanted to say also um first of all thank you uh Councilman Pagan and uh everyone on the the council. So I just wanted to say um everyone in Tenic. I think fear when it's ignored spreads.
Um, and we really have to as as local leaders and as government, we have a choice to protect people. And we cannot live in a community where anyone is living on the edge or anyone is told to be silent, where parents are afraid to send their children to school. I
remember my child was afraid to go to school for 2 weeks. Um, that's never okay. No one in Tina should ever be afraid to be part of this community, to ever feel like their leaders don't hear them, don't see them, to be bit to be visible. Um,
and I think, you know, I've heard I've heard some people say, what is this going to do? Um, as as Deputy Mayor Oregon said and my colleagues have said, our police have followed um the state directive and sometimes leadership means
letting your the town know that we're here and we see you and we're listening to you and we your pain is justified and that's what this is and that's what some other resolutions in the past have done too and they're just as important as this. Um, I want to thank Tene Police
for everything. um and they have followed the directive. Um Tene is not going to let anyone fracture the trust of our of our local township and I think that's very important for every resident to hear. Um dignity does not depend on
immigration status, religion, race and I will continue to support resolutions that make our residents feel safe even if even if they don't do anything because that's our job as leaders sometimes. Um, hate thrives when it's not named and we can't allow that to
happen. Um, so I just want to thank um, again my colleagues for this and thank you Michael Pagan for for really leading this and for being you know for hearing for standing with truth and for everyone supporting this. Um, thank you and I
know deputy mayor Morgan wanted to move it so defer to her if she wanted. >> Yeah. >> Is there a motion? Second. >> Motion made by Councilman Chi. Seconded by Councilman Pod. Roll call, please. >> Councilwoman Goldberg,
>> yes. >> Councilman Pagan, >> yes. >> Councilwoman J. >> Yes. >> Councilman Katz, >> yes. >> Deputy Mayor Belter, >> yes. >> Deputy Mayor Organ, >> yes. >> Mayor Schwarz, >> yes. >> And resolution 107-2026. >> Thank you very much.
Okay. Yes, sir. >> Sorry, I forgot earlier. I'd like to make a motion to add to the consent agenda um uh a new resolution appointing Ra McConn as chair as co-chair of the advisory board on community relations.
An additional um resolution appointing Dr. Paula Riner as co-chair of the advisory board on community relations. Second. >> Okay. And then we're going to see this on the next meeting. >> That's to one tonight. >> Okay. >> It's an addition. And it's not a modification of the current. It's an addition. Yeah.
>> Okay. That was a new business on communications. Do we have anyone for communications? >> Okay. Committee reports by council Leo. >> I just have uh Yes. Uh something from the last meeting um from the Tene Historic Preservation Commission um
regarding the monuments. I just want to um underscore the fact that the monuments will be up in the next meeting. Yes. Um uh for um approval. uh they are in the packet and uh anyone that wants to see it they can certainly
reach out to uh to see it but uh we will see that in the next meeting. Thank you. >> Anybody else? Tomorrow night we have a Cedar Lane management group meeting. There is dinner is served. So if anybody's around 6:30 p.m. on Cedar Lane. Um and the planning board uh has quite a bit of motions that were have
quite a bit of work going on that'll be we'll hear about later and we'll be voting on at the next meeting. Um, with that we will go start >> say something about the the meetings on the 17th. >> Sure. >> Okay. >> On the No, I mean you could do Okay. I
just want to mention that we have a community meeting for a redevelopment plan for 54 West Angwood Avenue on uh the 17th. It's a week from today. I just wanted to mention uh and it will be here in the chambers. So that will be a review of the site plan for 54 West
Angwood Avenue next week uh here at the chambers. >> You can talk. Yeah, >> I'll talk. And then we also have um a we have a stay tuned for a date for a community meeting for the crossroads uh plan as well. We're expecting our expert reports coming in the next week and
we'll be scheduling meeting for either the last week of February or the first week of March as well for the community to review and discuss these reports. So >> wait, Mr. Mr. Mayor, I have a question about that for I think the attorneys on that. So, is that going to be enough time to to to meet the deadline with the planning board?
>> Yes, we had discussed I apologize. We had discussed that in close session and and >> Thank you. >> Um, so we're knocking everything out. So, everyone will be you'll be gone very shortly with everything we're knocking out here tonight. >> Okay. On to the council listed items. Monuments committee. I am punting that.
We do have a meeting with about monuments at our next uh council meeting. We'll be discussing additional monuments on the monument green. So, that'll be coming up. So, I'll continue to punt that. Um, hybrid format of meetings. Deputy Mayor Organ. >> So, Tene is the last uh town that has a
they're meeting hybrid on Zoom and in person. I'm not suggesting that we get rid of that, but the language that we read at the beginning of our meeting, which says if Zoom fails, um, we have to stop the meeting. I think it's time, um, to stop with that. We saw that at our
last meeting. We were delayed about 20 minutes. we had to stop the business of the town um until we got the Zoom working. We we do have the two public access channels. We are available on YouTube and of course we are available live for people who want to come in. So I um I know that we strive to hold the
meetings by Zoom and we strive to keep them moving by Zoom, but if we have a malfunction, I think we're just too busy doing the work of the town now to stop um our meetings because the Zoom has failed. So I'd like to change that. I'm just trying to clarify what you're saying is last meeting the issue was if
we did not get the zoom fixed the meeting was adjourned no bills list no voting nothing what you're looking to do is not change anything but other that requirement that if the zoom is down I'm sorry whoever is there but the voting and everything can still continue and the meeting itself will not be
terminated >> okay >> can I ask a question >> thank you >> yeah I have a question and this is a question for the attorneys I I think uh and that is uh we had in the last two planning board meetings we had technical
difficulty where zoom uh I don't think it was a malfunction functioning zoom but it was um just a publishing of the actual um zoom access so would this apply to the statutory boards >> the each of the boards would need to do uh
would need to decide how they want to handle their own meetings so it'd be up to them whatever they want to do or Okay. Council Goldberg. >> Um, so, so this essentially makes the meeting view only. So, because we're
not, so if the meeting breaks during like good and welfare or public hearing, we're not stopping the public hearing. So, people that might have been planning to speak could speak. I'm just clarifying. This is that that's what I'm hearing. just want to understand >> everybody would still have the option to
come down here like they did before um COVID and like they do in every other town in New Jersey right now. We're the only ones that have this available to the public. >> And again, this was not a this is not something that's actually happened. It was more last meetings the first time I
believe that it really significantly happened and potentially caused that German. So that's why we're bringing that up. >> Thank you, Mayor. If if I recall correctly, the only reason why we had that clause was because of the pandemic. Correct. >> So, um I'm okay with car that clause. >> Okay. So, um
>> but how do we nice glasses? >> How do we do that? Um >> do you draft some stuff for us? >> Yeah, I'll draft language. And uh >> can I ask a a question? Um what I'm I've seen in other towns. I'm not I don't love the idea of not being able to have people um not be able to to speak. I
know at one point, you know, it there's different circumstances. I've seen in other places where they probably I don't know if I'm describing this right, but where um you can send in your public comment ahead of time and it kind of becomes part of the record if you send it in. So
if there's someone that wants to speak and they can't be there in person, they can send it in. We can see it and the clerk can put it in there. Is that something that you guys would be open to? I'm just not I don't love the idea of, you know, not letting people come in to speak. People are travel. There's a
million reasons. um seniors. So, would that be something you're open to to make sure that people can be part of the record on a topic? >> I think the intent is is pure and we still are saying that we're going to keep this open, but when we were running around for 20 minutes at the last meeting waiting to continue the meeting
for the people that were sitting in the room also, they had to sit here and wait. I don't think there would be time if that came up to have people start sending in their their notes to be part of the um part of the meeting. I I think this is a
>> I have a specific example. So the example that I I found actually they they had a cut off time um and obviously the clerk would have to be part of that. So the example that I use, I've actually done this in other in other towns actually myself where the cut off time I think was 12 3 there was there was a cut off time so it wasn't just like you know
everyone was being bombarded. Um but it did work. Um so I would just like to kind of leave that as an as a >> understanding we're not changing anything with the meeting. You can still call in we're getting rid of of people being able to comment at good and
welfare. No, we're not. We're not. We're only saying we're not there still everything stays as is. What we're saying is that at 9:15 tonight, if Zoom goes down, the meeting will continue. This is only if the Zoom break >> point and if it's not okay, that's okay. Sorry, I heard I apologize. I heard it
wrong. I heard it wrong. I apologize. >> Thank you. So, with that, we >> M maybe we could also clarify that our staff will try to fix Zoom. >> Always. We're going to try. We've got our volunteer cable master here. We'll double the volunteer salary if he gets to fix it. >> Excellent. Okay. So, with that, we turned it over to our attorney and we
will go on to the next item, which is >> one thing I just want to add to that that it still would mean that the video recording of of would still be on the website. We continue with that as well as well as the YouTube and so forth. Nothing's going to change >> unless unless the video crashes
something. >> Okay. With that, it's going to be one of my favorite subjects. Increase snow removal ticket amounts. This is not about the plowing on the streets. This is about the sidewalks. The sidewalk shoveling was abysmal by everyone by not
by hundreds and hundreds of people. And many people told me for $54, I'm not going to do it. And with that, I'm looking for a um to I'm looking for nodding heads to make that fine for failure to care about your neighbors and
care about pedestrians to be $100. >> Okay. I I'll second that. >> Well, which we're going to We have two nodding heads so far. You council >> the nodding no head. By the way, listen, first of all, I think the last storm is obviously an anomaly. Uh and and I think it's fair to say that there's many
people that were not able to uh take care of what was needed to take care of. There's no place to put some of the snow. Um I personally don't have any sidewalks in my house. Um but with that said, you know, um I understand that it is a challenge and it is important, but even if you do shovel, especially the
last snowstorm, it still melts, it still becomes ice, etc. I think that um just enforcing the current laws are enough uh in the residential and business districts. >> Okay, >> Mr. Mayor, I have a question actually kind of abiding. So, I totally agree
with um Councilman Katz, but there was one comment that I heard from a resident that maybe we can kind of discuss about a a change to the ordinance that might help. And it was after the snowstorm. Right now, the code says that um it's
it's this, you know, the manager is going to declare when when it's clear. Um, and I think a lot of other towns that I saw, you know, have a a clear timeline and some maybe alter and the issue is that after the snowstorm, people are going back on the roads and we can't still plow.
>> We're talking about sidewalks here. >> I you just said, oh, for sidewalks. Sorry. >> Sorry, I had a different idea, but okay. I'm not talking about >> different idea. I'll talk about it next meeting, though. Sorry. >> Yeah, I I agree with Councilman Catz. Um
I saw a lot of um residents commenting online uh who are owners of corner lots where either one they would they would shovel the corner lot and to the crosswalk and then the plow would come and shove it all back in and so and then
it would pile really high become icy and then become impossible to shovel. So I think one we need to figure out a way to support um or to coordinate with DPW with for instances like this. I think this storm also was an anomaly. I think we also have to be more considerate of our
senior residents who may not have the ability to quickly get out and shovel so much snow. Um, and so for those reasons, I would not support this move. I think there are other ways we can educate our residents about their responsibilities, what they should be doing, what
resources are available, um, etc. before we double the the fees, the fines. >> Thank you. >> I bring something else up having to do with snow, even though I didn't list it. I'd rather not because we don't want to jinx and get more snowtorms. So, why don't we say snow? >> This will not jinx it. Um but um people
parking on both sides of the street when there's snow on the street so that vehicles or emergency vehicles can't pass. Some towns have ordinances where you can only park on one side of the street, the even side, the odd side. It just makes things safer for everyone and doesn't cost anybody money. Would anybody be in favor?
>> Well, I am a fan. >> Yeah, actually I I that's what I was thinking. I agree with that. by giving a ticket. >> Then you would make it a $4 ticket or a $6 ticket because >> But then you could double it. You could try to double it at the next meeting and it would get >> I've been trying to double these tickets for 10 years. >> Maybe we can ask our attorney to look
into it to explore it. >> Yes. >> Deputy Mayor Organ just one side. People can't handle moving their cars. I I will. >> Deputy Mayor, I actually agree with you. Um and I actually have if we can talk off maybe for the next meeting. I have I
have actually looked at this. I that's actually what I was trying to say before. So, I completely agree with you, but I have a there's a few things that could work that some of surrounding towns did. I think this that would help a lot. I agree. >> Thank you, Councilman Goldber. Perhaps Deputy Mayor Organ discuss that offline and come back. >> If I could comment, uh I just want to
say that I'm I am in uh agreement that we should not change the the amount of the fee. Uh I think it's hard enough for our residents to try and even clear the sidewalks. Um, you know, this was a extraordinary storm that we just had the last time and I think that we just have
to find more resources because I believe a lot of people were trying to reach out to the the forum at the high school to try to get students to help clear the sidewalks and it that was ended very quickly. So perhaps um uh Miss Manager, we could look at alternative ways, maybe
even creating a list of possible um vendors um you know that um could be resources to our residents in in terms of clearing sidewalks. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Um with that, we'll go over to our township. Sorry, there's something else. Oh, sorry. I apologize.
Yes, Field. Um Deputy Mayor Wargan or Council Gone Fields. Um so there is a significant amount of funding in most right now and um we did budget in capital um for a field and we'd like to
start the discussion about the um middle field at Vot Park uh starting to refurbish it um a turf field uh to work with the fields advisory board. So wanted to know how the rest of council felt about that. So, I'm looking for
four nod hands to take that to the next step. And I know we have three so far. >> I I my only curiosity is I'd love to hear from the entire most uh board just what are the other things that they've been talking about potentially funding before we commit to a field.
>> No problem. We do what we do is we do have our most chair here, but I'm sure he'll speak under good welfare and I do have four. >> I also know that the environmental commission has been trying to get a meeting together on that. >> Well, call on you next. I'm sorry. I was going to uh agree with uh Councilwoman MG that perhaps a presentation of what
our options are might be um something to look at. >> And council gober, >> I was going to say I know the environmental commission chair has been trying to um get a a meeting on this and the environmental commission has a lot on there and actually D just put out a a
report at the end of the year updating that. Um and then my also my question for I guess the attorney um and you might not have the answer on the spot just to kind of come back to us is um the the allocation in the referendum
it's a it's a referendum. I mean that this is not just you know we're spending a few thousand over a percentage. This is going completely against the referendum and um I don't really know the the legality of that. So Scott, I don't know if you want to come back to us on that, but I' I'd ask you to look
into that because I the voters decided how that money is spent, not it's it's very different than going over a like a a section of it. So can you look into that and and get back to us, please? >> I believe the only true is that because
it's not purchasing land and fields, the referendum require >> No, that's not what I said. >> You want to explain what you said then? I said the referendum has a specific allocation and the voters voted on the allocation and this is completely ignoring the
allocation. Now there's sometimes yes there's the v the override for some of them but this is a complete override and I don't know if there's an implication because it's so different than the referendum and I would ask the attorney to look into that and get back to us. Um
the motion chair will the motion chair made the presentation and he'll discuss it again during good and welfare. Councilman G. >> Um sorry I just remembered what I wanted to pull up as an example. Argon Park. I get so much feedback from residents that that park is ignored. We pour so much into vote and I love vot. It's a
phenomenal resource of town. But that is a project that I think should also be considered if we're going to invest in revitalizing one of our parks. It's the largest park in Tene. You ask residents. Some don't even realize it that it is. Um, but I think that should be on the table as well. >> Um, and I'll just a response to that, we
had discussed this at a presentation with Bi because the Argon field is a double field. The cost to turf the double field as you know you have you have um Argon West and Argon East from the soccer perspective. Um, further it would be almost double the cost of
middle and secondly we have to fence it in. So it would take this beautiful open park and would have to fence it in whereas parts of OT are already fenced in. So we definitely go over with the presentation but just something to disco that came up the last time argon was mentioned >> the the field advisory board looked at
all the parks and came up and we can have them present again they did present once but that they had come up with vote as the next um viable project. The reason we're bringing up now this up now is because there is funding and we want to get a project started if the money's
there. So >> I I believe I if I remember correctly Dean um uh had had rotation schedule. We had a uh parks that were on rotation in terms of we knew what was next. Uh does that still are we still following that schedule?
>> Um we actually do we do have an actual schedule but we have met um with Sean to go over which park we would look at next and we've been doing that through capital and what grant funding we receive. Just can I respond to Deputy Mayor Karen Organ's comment? I think if
we use the cost of improvements as the criteria for which one we'll do next, then parks like Argon will never get addressed, right? And so I think we have to prioritize the parks that have been ignored for so many years um over those that have, you know, received a lot of
funding over the past few years. >> So, but this is something different. This is specifically a field. We are going park by park and and going through them and fixing them up. We're fixing up playgrounds. We're fixing up fields. But to specifically turf the field um to put
the money in the number of of youth that would play there and the type of field that the field advisory board presented to us when they came here with the sports teams. Um the middle field at Bouti was perfect for this and it's a field that can't otherwise be used
because of the flooding. So turf would solve that problem, but we can bring them in again to present it >> and you can make a financial decision. I think the answer is if Argon Park is $6 million to do and vote T is 2.5 and we're accumulating a million a year, the option would then be perhaps waiting
three more years to do it or that and then the council can make the decision. Do you want to wait three years do nothing more than do Argon some other argon solutions that we were approached to the subzoning committee that we can review after March 15th. So I think we >> Argon just got a restroom, a splash pad
and um we just fixed the tennis courts. So it's you know >> inde definitely needed by all means absolutely absolutely needed. >> One quick comment actually question. So I grew up with this uh incredible young man. His name is Bernard Pearson and he had a lot of great plans and a lot of ideas for Argon Park. Can we bring him
into the conversation too on the side? >> Bernard Pearson wanted to make a stadium in Argon. >> I know I know but he has a lot of ideas. He has a lot of different $20 million idea where we're at like >> but he's reasonable. He has >> it was it was a great idea. I saw the plans. Actually, I agree with Catherine Pagan's idea. Solid idea.
>> The Girls Good Foundation is the name of his foundation to do this. But absolutely. So, we have a lot to discuss over the next, but I'd love to if we can whatever we do if we can kind of make a decision in the next few months so we don't push this over with nothing on. Okay. Well, we'll hear from Fields and we'll hear from most shortly. Um, okay.
Town manager report. Maj. >> Uh, thank you, mayor, and good evening council and township residents. Please be advised that the welcome Ramadan program is scheduled for this Thursday, February 12th, from 6:30 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. at the Roa Center. All are welcome
to attend and celebrate the spirit of Ramadan with kid performances, speeches, and light refreshments. Our recreation department is gearing up for another successful pool season along with offering badges for pickle ball and tennis courts. >> Have it as a gift. >> The TE community pool membership
registration starts on March 2nd. Please refer to the flyer for specifics and a list of items to bring as proof of residency. NJ dot has recently updated the township that they are planning the Route 4 West Decar a ramp widening project for March
2nd. This ramp will be closed during construction and detours will be in place. Notifications will also go out later this month. Our walk to wellness program has officially closed registration with 225 residents signed
up to participate. Thank you to all for your support and we look forward to sharing some updates. Um for our grant updates, um a grant application for our Sunshine Gardens preschool playground at the Roa Center has been successfully submitted. Late
January, we were awarded a Bergen County Open Space Municipal Park improvement grant for Phelps Parks tennis court in the amount of $198,88. For some project updates, our Brooks Park exercise station, we poured the concrete on January 22nd and the
equipment has arrived. And the restroom at Brooks Park, um, the project went out to bid and the bid opening was scheduled for today. Phelps Park splash pad. The contractor finished working on the water line and pasted inspections. The equipment has
arrived and the meter connection and equipment installation is on hold due to weather. Griggs, Van Beern, and Heric Avenue improvements. The project is out to bid and the bid opening is scheduled for March 3rd, 2026.
Livingston Place and Clinton Place main sewer line replacement. The pre-construction meeting was held on January 13th and construction will start in March. Some general updates I have for you. As you may have noticed, snow removal on some main roadways was
imperative for public safety and school and school routes. Due to extremely cold temperatures and minimal snow melting, this was the most efficient way to improve roadway and pedestrian safety. I would also like to make mention that our property maintenance department
inspectors led by health officer Michael Meyer have been working endless endlessly to inspect and reinspect snow-covered sidewalks to assist with pedestrian safety after our recent snowstorm. Job well done and we thank them for their hard work. Our 2026
municipal operating budget is scheduled for presentation on March 17th. And lastly, I would also like to say Ramadan Mubarak to those in our community se celebrating this holy month. Thank you. That's all I have for you, Mayor. >> Thank you very much, Mrs. Manager. Mr.
Attorney, do you have anything to report tonight? >> Nothing tonight, Mr. Mayor. >> Thank you very much. And with that, um, we're going to go to our public hearing and the adoption of ordinances. However, however, some changes. If everyone can pull out their paper and m Mr. Attorney
or Mr. Clerk, please confirm if I'm saying this properly. We are going to be tableabling ordinances four, five, and sorry, not four. Sorry. We're going to be tableabling ordinances five, six, and 7. Uh for a future
meeting, just for people to clarity, that's going to be that this conversation on 827 scenic road will not be heard tonight. 822 Palisad Avenue will not be heard tonight. and our settlement on the fourth round will not be heard tonight. We will only be having
a hearing on the township code for the creation of an MIS system. So with that, the first thing I'm looking for is Kristen, do you want to explain on the seven or if I said that right >> request if we could do all four for the next Well, >> you want to pull everything. >> No. So no,
>> that's fine. >> Four for February 24th. >> Okay. >> And then the other three are going to be for March 10th. I'll second that motion. I'll I'll make that motion to table four for February 24th and table five, 6, and
7 for March 10th. Is there a second on that motion? >> Yes. >> Uh don't we want to uh reintroduce seven with the the uh adjustment? Do >> you want to clarify the seven on the there's a change on seven? Do you want to clarify that or that's fine? >> Seven.
mic on >> but that but this one you want wants be we want to amend it and reintroduce it uh tonight I thought was the idea correct so I would I Okay, that's that's okay. Um, >> a motion. What? Can you make my motion for me?
>> So, well, where's the What was the number again? >> Oh, seven is going to be amended >> and then reintroduced to >> Okay. So, we're going to pull four, five, and six, and we're going to pull all four right now. That's going to first mesh and then seven we're going to
reintroduce at the end of the night. Correct? Did I answer that correctly? Yeah. >> Okay. Okay. So, the first thing is we're pulling four, five, six, and seven. Is there a second on that? Second that. Chris, whenever you're ready, please take the roll call. Take your time. >> Councilwoman Goldberg,
>> abstain because I have no idea what's going on. >> Councilman Pan, >> yes. >> Councilwoman G. >> Yes. >> Councilman Catz, >> yes. >> Deputy Mayor Belchure, >> yes. >> Deputy Mayor, >> yes. >> Mayor Schwarz, >> yes. Okay. Okay. And then at the end of the night, we're going to talk about a
change on seven. Correct. Excellent. So, with that, there will be no hearings tonight with no um on any of those matters. Um and with that, we will go to welfare. Okay. Um Okay. Uh
was there anything about the public budget? Anything we need to do on that, Scott? That's just as a pleasure. Okay. So, that we have good and welfare at this point in the meeting. Uh we'll talk to everyone in the room first and then we'll go to Zoom afterwards. The floor is all yours is for three minutes. We'll
start with Dr. Y. >> Good evening, Phil. Is this mic working? >> Yep. >> Yes. Ron >> testing is it on now? Okay. So, Phil Yak Bell Avenue resident Tene. So, I was at
the planning board meeting and spoke during good and welfare about the upcoming ordinance regarding the ALD Beverly Road redevelopment plan. I'd like to comment on the responses I got from Mayor Schwarz because I was unable to rebut them at the meeting because
good and welfare is after everything. um is uh voted on at the planning board meeting. The three houses on Bever number one, the three houses on Beverly Road that will be surrounded by a building do not sit in the parking lot. The people who live there do not live on
a parking lot. They live on Beverly Road. I'm certain that the parking lot was built after and around those three houses. Number two, by the same token, Margaret Baker does not live on Route 4. As we all know, she lives on Decar
Avenue. It is at best arrogant to suggest that she lives on the highway. I always thought we had a green belt on Route 4, and to the best of my knowledge, no one single resident in town has a Route 4
address. Number three, and finally, I know of only two residents other than those on the current or former council who created this nightmare who told me that they are in favor of this development. I recall that nobody, say for Mr. Ash, was
interested in this development going forward when we had community meetings and there were a lot of people there. The fact that there are 41,000 residents in town is totally irrelevant and it is ridiculous to assume that this
so-called silent majority is in fact in favor of this development. I would argue that statistically speaking based on the sample of residents from various parts of town that attended those meetings that one might readily conclude that the vast majority of residents, if not
almost all, would be against this development. I sincerely hope that this council will be very thoughtful and careful when you have to vote on this redevelopment plan. You should have all of your studies in place before approving it. And the
ordinance better ensure that Crossroads cannot negotiate itself out of fulfilling its obligations to the community. Given an opening, they surely will. You all know where I stand on this proposed development. It simply doesn't
belong there. You all saw a different proposal that would redevelop and modernize our crumbling and antiquated Cedar Lane while adding housing above and behind with less encroachment on private homes. It would be challenging
to say the least. So successful to to successfully achieve that. But as the saying goes, what you plant now you will harvest later. Please don't take the easy way out and do the right thing for our town.
On another note, an ordinance 1226 that's being introduced about the fire department uh um costs. Is is there anything in this ordinance excluding residents from from uh being build out of pocket uh to uh because we already
pay for fire department services through our taxes? If not, please uh make sure that that that's excluded. Thank you doctor. >> Yes. Hello. My name is Kathleen McGary Algandant and I live on East Cedar Lane and I respectfully request the town
council. Is there any particular reason this is the second time that my husband and I have sat here for a full hour for you only to say that we've been tabled? Why can't you tell us that in the beginning so that we can get home and go about our business a full hour second
time after two registered letters telling us that we should be here. Okay. And also it would be nice if you gave us a reason that I was tabled. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Hi. How are you? Um my name is Mala. I
live on Amsterdam Avenue. tiny little block that most people don't know exists. So, I'm here because I've lived here for 15 years, owned my house for 15 years with my husband and we have the issue of parking permits that we have to purchase every single year. You guys
familiar everyone or not yet? Okay. So, we have to buy these parking permits to park on our street. Um they cost $50 a vehicle. It doesn't matter if the vehicle is registered to our address or not. And every single year, these
parking permits have to get renewed. And we get ticketed if they're not renewed. And if we have guests, our guests get ticketed because they're not they don't have the parking permit. And if you want to buy a parking permit for your guest, um it's like an exorbitant amount of
money. I think it's a $100 or it's per time. It's a little it's a little interesting. I know it's to protect us to some degree because of the commuters that park on the street sometimes. And so I do like the idea that our block is not just open to everyone because of the
mass amount of commuters and additionally because of the apartments in the area. Like it is very helpful that there's a limited amount of people being able to park on our block. The problem is that when you're spending a I have three vehicles in my house and our our driveway is only large enough for
one car. So every year we're buying three parking permits and it just seems a little foolish that I'm a resident. I pay my taxes, the whole nine yards, the whole saga. But every year I'm spending $150 just to park on my street. And majority
of Tene, 99% of Tene doesn't have this issue. I think it's like six or eight blocks that have this issue. Um, and I would like to make a motion. I don't know what it is, but I would love to change this rule because I would just very simply like to have a rule that
says if you're a resident, if you could show show that your your cars are registered at your address, you could park on your street. Here's your parking pass. It doesn't expire. You don't have to come every year to get it renewed and and I would really appreciate that change.
>> Thank you. Um, we'll address it at the end or you can take the manager's card and be in touch with her directly. It's up to you. >> Okay, let's go there. >> You're covered. Thank you. >> Thank you very much, M. Uh uh Debbie Ron, you go next after Debbie. After Deb, >> good evening.
>> Right into it. Close. >> Thank you. Good evening to one and all. Uh let me just bring that back up. I have a couple of things uh to mention, just three. Uh one is the snow removal. I agree that
the fine should not be added. Um it should not be increased. It there's already a major inequality for those of us who are burdened with sidewalks. And why do I say burdened? Because every time a slab cracks, we have to spend hundreds if not thousands to replace
these burdens. And there are so many people in town who don't even have sidewalks. So when there's so there's no burden on them to dig out and there are houses for which we have to pay snow
removal for like I have to pay for my mother's snow removal which then gets removed all the way up to the house next door which doesn't have a sidewalk. So I have to pay a fortune to have somebody remove the snow only up to the lawn of
the people next door. So there's a lot of inequality and I'd like that to be thought of when you talk about snow removal and the requirements. The next thing is um actually two things. I'd like to talk about the crossroads project and about the studies and about
the approvals. First of all, have the um studies been done that were supposed to be done before the project is approved? Have the traffic studies been done that were supposed to be done by the town? Has the water uh runoff issue been taken
care of? And has it been studied? Has it been shown that the running off into the whatever it's called where the train runs, has that been studied that that would actually solve the problem or would it turn out that later that it's really not a solution and we have to find another solution that's going to
cost who knows what. Has CSX approved of the solution? Um or is that going to be a problem? Because we have to remember that those trains they when they derail they can cause really big problems and a lot of deaths. So we need to consider
whether or not they understand the issue when for example there's a deep freeze like there is now. If there's a lot of water down there and it freezes what happens to the trains that are supposed to be running there? And then uh the third thing is when we were discussing 100 state street which never came about
New Jersey Transit the the head of the buses or the head of transit wrote to me personally that no new lines or buses would be added because there were no resources and wouldn't be in the foreseeable future. What is going to happen to all of the people in these new projects who would like to commute by
public transportation? Has New Jersey Transit said that this situation would change? And if they had if if they have said so, I would be very interested in hearing who contact who contacted them, who responded, and who said that there would now be more resources cuz they
told me the vice president of buses said to me, "No." So, thank you. >> Thank you very much, Ros Mr. Schwarz. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Nice job.
Ron Schwarz, L Avenue Tene. I'm speaking tonight on behalf of grassroots groups, one town, one vote, and the coalition of neighborhood associations. We want to commend this council for voting unanimously on the resolution relating
to ICE. Lisa and I have been living here for 46 years now, and I have never seen such fear stalking the streets of Pine as I've seen in the last two weeks. Now, you may not have been able to eradicate
this fear entirely, but I think tonight you said to Tene, "We stand with you and we care about you and we speak as one voice." And on behalf of those two organizations and the people of Tene, I thank you for taking that step tonight
regarding the Crossroads redevelopment, which will dramatically impact the quality of life in this town for years to come. Those two groups that I'm speaking for also commend you for deciding to accept our recommendation and fulfill your
promises to have a public forum before a redevelopment plan is uh put before the council for approval whether it's a draft or it's a final one doesn't make any difference to me it's a redevelopment plan and the questions that I have are are also relating to the
uh public impact studies which are meant to protect the public before this is voted upon. Is it is a traffic study done? Is it available or when will it be available to the public? I think the mayor said that they are soon to be available. We'd like to know when and
how they would be available if that's possible. Also, the settlement agreement requires an independent study to be done by the township. Is that in the works? Of even the of the ultimate importance is the flood remediation study. Is that available? Has it been agreed to by the
town engineers? when can the public see it and can we assure that the public will see these uh surveys before the uh public forum. So I hope you can answer those questions after good and welfare Mr. Mayor. Thank you. >> Uh there are two ladies in the back both
if you go one one after each other that'd be great. I'm sorry I can't even see you. I apologize. Coming up and whoever's going first the other one will go second. I'm sorry I can't thank and young lady after her. Thank you. Please say your name.
>> Hi, Leila Graham. Tina resident. Uh, good evening. I'm here today to stand in solidarity with my neighbors who are being hunted by ICE. Uh, and to help bring to attention yet another reason why people of conscious in this town should care about Palestine.
For the past 23 years, local law enforcement and federal agencies like ICE have collaborated and trained together with police and military in the settler colony known as Israel. The heinous ICE tactics we all
witness in Minnesota, Los Angeles, and more recently here in Tene and neighboring towns are techniques learned in collaboration with Israeli occupational forces in occupied Palestine. the racial and ethnic profiling, the dehumanization of immigrants, the brutal
and inhumane conditions of the detention facilities, the gifying of the terror inflicted on communities of color. These are all atrocities ICE and the Israeli military have in common and trained together to develop, not to mention the
clear resemblance to slave clatchers and bounty hunters during the American Holocaust of Black and Indigenous peoples. Palanteer Technologies is a software firm that provides Israel with AI targeting tools to carry out their genocidal air strikes and Ghaza,
targeting innocent men, women, and children. To this day, ICE also uses Palanteer software to track our neighbors. ICE is also provided with radar, spyware, and surveillance technology from Elbert Systems and Paragon, both Israeli companies used to
terrorize and brutalize families in Palestine every day. There are many more connections between ICE and Israel, but I encourage my teen friends and neighbors to not take my word for it and actually do your own research. I also have personally been to Delaney Hall
several times over the last few weeks to visit a friend who was so viciously abducted by ICE on his way to work. Nothing could have prepared me for the grief and disgust that overtook me while waiting in line to enter that despicable place. Conditions are disgraceful inside
of Delaney Hall or what I like to call the dungeon. That place is not fit for humans. I'm deeply I'm deeply disturbed by by ISIS's presence in this town and the lukewarm and cooler responses by
some council members are very telling. I'd like to end by remembering John Wilson Brutus, a New Jersey resident from Hayeti who was murdered at Delini Hall in December, the day after he was admitted into that concentration camp.
Rest in power, Brother John. May ICE be crushed and may Palestine be free. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, ma'am. Good evening. My name is Yehudit Robinson and I live in Tene with my husband and kids. In March, once again,
we will be celebrating Women's History Month to honor women's often unseen and unagnowledged contributions to history. Thinking more locally about our town and its leadership, I have marveled that the Tene Town Council is majority female, as
is our town manager. I began thinking about how you come from different backgrounds and are different ages and have had diverse experiences, yet you are able to unite and lead Tene. What a special example for our community's girls and young women.
I wanted to ask if I can pitch an idea for March, Women's History Month. Would you consider inviting teen girls, whether only high school or also middle school, to visit the town council chambers before the start of a meeting? Explain more about your backgrounds and
how you came to public service and explain how you run Tene while juggling your other work and parenting responsibilities. in particular in the age of cancel culture. I am impressed with how you bridge differences and would love for
you to share more about how you arrive at consensus or when not possible disagree agreeably and then invite those who are interested to stay for the opening of a town council meeting all with the goal of incubating local female
leadership and promoting unity in the next generation. I think it's so important for you to consider addressing some common pitfalls to female leadership because kids absorb ideas about where their place is fairly young. Let's say your sixth grade
campaign for student representative was unsuccessful. The donuts for everyone campaign pledge wasn't a slam dunk. Do you run again in seventh grade? Do you ever run for leadership positions again in high school, college, or as an adult?
or do you channel your energies elsewhere? Again, what I find most compelling about the four of you is that you comprise a female majority, including two deputy mayors, and that you represent different sectors of Tene, and successfully work
together on matters large and small. From one woman to another, I salute you. >> Thank you, M. Robinson, sir. >> Thank you very much. Isidor Ferish. I was here two weeks ago, but I couldn't
stay because the police informed me that the cars had to be cleared out of the parking lot by 8:00 or else they'd get towed because the snow removal was coming. Um, but I don't know if there was any discussion at the last meeting about this proposed resolution, uh, the
commitment to equal, respectful, and dignified treatment. Um, but, uh, this sounds great the way it's written here. I'm all for that. I think where my issue is is the oral presentation went considerably beyond
what how it's written here. And I'd like to comment on that. And I'd like to start with a couple of statistics. Um 12.5 million people were deported by Bill Clinton during his eight years in in office. And I don't recall any
protests or demonstrations. Um George W. Bush Jr. deported 10.3 million people. I have no recollection of any demonstrations. Barack Obama deported 5.2 million people and I don't recall any demonstrations.
The number I get here is 1.5 million deported by Donald Trump and over 350 protests including last week or the week before like a riot in the Midwest where they arrested I think at least 50
people. And it's going to get uglier. I don't have to be Nostradamus to predict that it's going to get uglier. And my suggestion is that it not get ugly in New Jersey, it not get uglier here in Bergen County, and it not get uglier in
any of the towns here. So, um, one other statistic that I think I should mention is during the 1960s, the leader of the farm workers union, Caesar Chavez, was known for deploying his own army of
vigilantes by the border of of California and Mexico and physically beating the be Jesus out of the migrants that were trying to cross over without proper paperwork. Finally, one thing. I was traveling in central Africa on
humanitarian mission and I was one day late on my uh transit visa and I got stopped on my way out. I was at the airport at Nairobi. I was ready to get on my plane to come home and I got stopped. I got detained and I was nearly
arrested because I was one day late getting out because I was on a humanitarian mission. and they let me go with a fine which I was grateful for. But the United States is already among the most liberal countries in the world
when it comes to the amount of of um applicants for for uh immigration that it encourages and the way it polices even with the ICE agents the way they are, we are still among the most liberal countries in the world. So that's what I
came to say. I would be nice if I could have said it before the uh council voted on this. >> Thank you very much, sir. >> Thank you, >> Anybody else? After >> Hello everyone, Shaz um want to thank
you. Leadership is about courage and today courage is not loud or dramatic. It is doing simple things consistently with equity. Courage is speaking truth when it's uncomfortable. It's caring for neighbors. It's leading with empathy and compassion. So in recent months and
years, we have seen that kind of courage from two members of the council c. Um, so I want to express my deep gratitude to Councilwoman Belchure and Councilwoman G who have responded to ICE related concerns in prior resolutions with the same steady level of empathy
and fairness. So thank you. But that same courage is needed now. The proposed American Legion Drive Beverly Road apartment and parking garage project on the municipal lots behind Cedar Lane and Stop and Shop parking lot will have wide
reaching impacts to everyone in our town. The project impacts not just the residents but those who visit Tene. Five schools and daycare centers serving approximately 975 children in the southwest area along with bus routes serving additional schools outside the
immediate zone. six religious and cultural centers, many of which already have limited or no parking. These centers serve not only T-neck residents, but families from across New Jersey. Commuters to New York City. Tene is a prime commuter town with direct NJ
Transit bus service to Port Authority. Increased density impacts bus access, seats, capacity, and commuter parking. Parking overall, many existing apartment buildings do not provide adequate parking. Some churches have none. Municipal lots lots are already filled,
especially during storms. Residents should not have to choose between being ticketed or circling for non-existent spaces. Traffic flow for families and shoppers along Cedar Lane and a stop and shop. Municipal services as population increases without clear planning for
infrastructure capacity. If we truly love this town, and I do, you all know I've been here for more than 50 years, so I do. We must have the courage to slow down and ask the hard questions that every resident here has spoken about. We respectfully asked the council
to get all the answers as we facilitate a public workshop again to get all of those answers that everybody is asking and that we clearly demonstrate tangible community benefits weighed against the significant impact of adding large
apartment buildings and structured parking in an already congested residential area. Courage now means caring for the people who already live here. It means transparency. It means planning responsibly. So if we love this town, we must lead with that courage.
Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> Good evening everyone. I'm Isaiah Vali. I live on Bennett Road. I'll wait until next month to discuss um what's going on with with Zenas. But I did want to tie in a little bit when it comes to snow
removal from the commercial property owners. You guys can go right now. go drive to to where Zenas is, go into the parking lot and you're gonna see that there's a mountain, not a mountain, but a hill of snow still there, right? You see there's a lot of elderly residents here. And if they're going to take the
bus, they have to walk over the ice, right? Same thing on the corner of of Zenas is as well. It's not shovel where Russos is and where the dental office, that shovel, you can cross the street. I make the choice every day if I'm going to the city to actually walk in Tene
Road with the traffic running against me because that's better than walking over the ice. Um, so I think maybe with the commercial owners the fine could be higher >> than with a residential owner and maybe there can be more enforcement there because right now we're weeks after the
storm. It's truly a dangerous situation. With respect to I think you guys should be commended for the ICE um resolution that you made. Um, I think we as Tene residents need to figure out how to come together. I stand with my black, my
Hispanic, my Jewish, my Muslim neighbors, and we all need to stand together. Thank you. >> Thank you, sir. >> Thank you very much. And you're next, Andrew. Okay. Thank you. Hi, my name is Carol Bratman. I've been living here for 51 years and I love Tene. When we moved
here, it was a nice small town. What I want to talk about is what's going to happen if all this building is taken, you know, into consideration. Congestion and pollution that comes with it. There
are a huge number of young children living in my neighborhood. I lived between Queen Anne Road and Palisade Avenue right near the uh new park, a new development of those town houses. The number of children in our
neighborhood has absolutely blossomed and it's wonderful. However, I'm an environmentalist. I know what comes into the air from all of that congestion with, you know, with all the cars going by,
it's it's poisoning our children. And I know that it's kind of dramatic for me to say that, but if it's in the air, it's in your lungs. And if it's in your lungs, it's in your body. So, I want you to consider that when you are thinking
about development and where it is. I know that all the people in my area have been complaining about not being able to pull out onto Palisade Avenue because of the enormous number of cars, especially during rush hour and later in the
afternoon and uh it becomes a problem. It's five minutes of waiting where it used to be a minute and you could pull out. So there's a still enormous number of traffic um accidents and anyway other
in in uh conveniences from this. Uh in addition the farmers market which is have been there in the parking lot behind Cedar Lane for years. Where are you going to put them? It's the middle of town. It's a terrific area. Consider
this when you're thinking about building new developments. That's all I'd like to say. Thank you. >> Thank you very much, ma'am. Anybody else? >> Sorry. >> She's You'll go next. She'll go and then
Abby will go after him. Thank you. >> And also up here. >> I did not have to see. We'll have plenty of time. Hello, my name is Jasmine Ray. I have a few things to say. So, first I want to start by saying that no person is
illegal on stolen land. Just because horrors have been perpetrated in the past does not mean that we should be silent as a bloody history repeats itself now. And that is in direct response to another um member of town that was reading statistics. Just
because things have happened before does not mean we should be silent now. That doesn't have any rationale as to why there shouldn't have been a resolution. I'm very glad that there was one that was passed. Additionally, I wanted to
continue off from where another friend left off when they were speaking before. So, just finishing up their statement. So, they're not surprised to observe what seems to be a clear divide in
council's response to residents concerns regarding ice. The lukewarm to cooler responses by some council members are very telling. Then again, why would council members who are unbothered or even jubilant regarding something that should be as non-negotiable as genocide
be moved to worry about people considered illegal on what was once considered native land. Today, news broke of a mother in Lil Ferry who was taken from her child's daycare, dropping morning um sorry, morning drop off. As she was taken away by ICE agents, she
repeated Tayama to our distraught child. So again, this illustrates the immediate and building pressure around our area and why it's so important that we need to be in solidarity with one another in this time. It's also important again to
continue to speaking up and to call what is happening exactly what it is. This is the beginning of another genocide. We need to stand in solidarity with our immigrant neighbors, our queer neighbors, everyone that is currently
living in fear and under attack. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Yep. Aby, you'll go next to Mr. Rose after Obby, please. Thank you. >> Hello, town council. Robert Lazerof,
Beatra Street. Tene is a community of many voices, many cultures, many religions. We pride ourselves on our diversity, and one thing that has united the residents of Tene is our response to the Crossroads
massive luxury rental debacle. No one wants this. Many of us have been attending meetings in response to this land grab for over three years. Here at the municipal building, at the Roa Center, and at Fairley Dickinson University, residents
have spoken out. Business owners on Cedar Lane have spoken out. Not one resident, not one business owner has voiced their desire for luxury rental highrises and parking garages behind Cedar Lane in residential neighborhoods. There are 41,000 residents in Teneck.
Surely one would think a handful of folks would speak out in support. I mean, there's got to be someone, but no one shows up because no one wants this. At one meeting at the Rod Center a few years back, residents were asked to
choose between two plans that Crossroads put forth. Do you want five stories of luxury housing, apartment housing and park over built over parking garages, or do you want four stories? When some folks chose the lesser of two
bad options, representatives from Crossroads crowed that this is what they chose. This is what they want. No, this is not what T-neck residents want. No one wants this. >> Independent traffic studies have not
been done. Safety studies, environmental studies. Does the railroad that runs through town know that crossroad plans as laid out in recent presentation include diverting the floodwaters that we all know are coming into their tracks? Who designs this? Who builds
this? Who pays for this? I think of oil and coal companies promising no envinal harm, no environmental harm will come to their waters and lands where they want to drill. Fool you. Or the tobacco companies a few generations ago touting
that their products were so safe that four out of five doctors recommend smoking. Fool you. Crossroads in this town council want to fool us. The residents of Tene in a similar way. They say that this massive development is
needed. And trust us, traffic will be fine. Flooding will be taken care of. Cedar Lane will thrive because this council has a fear of being sued. There is a mad rush to force this crossroads debacle down our throats. No one wants
this. Here's an anecdotal traffic report. On January 8th, bit over a month ago, my wife and I walked up our street to find Garrison Avenue closed because of a multi-vehicle collision on the intersection of Beverly and Garrison. There were police cars and ambulances
surrounding two wrecked vehicles, broken glass all over the street, airbags deployed, folks taken out from their crashed cars on stretchers. If this happens on a th on a sunny Thursday afternoon, clear of any snow or bad weather, right where the proposed
development is to be built, what happens afterwards when we have hundreds of more cars trying to get through TXT's already clogged streets around the Cedar Lane Nexus? >> Thank you very much, sir. Thank you. >> No one wants this, Bobby.
Good evening, uh, Avi Berliner, TINK resident. By the way, congratulations to TK High School varsity basketball with a 17-point win over Tennifly tonight. Uh, for those of you that follow Big North and statewide rankings, you know how important this was. Uh, with regards to
most, uh, we submitted our report at the end of the previous year. It was put into the public record. I was here to present it, was not asked to. We are always open to to uh continue that conversation as well as anything that's on our docket or that council or the manager asks us to provide advice on
over a year ago with students, athletes, coaches, and parents filling every seat in this room as well as with a number of players who weren't even allowed into the room because of overflow capacity. The fields advisory board presented its unanimous proposal and recommendation to
council for a new modern multisport field in Vote Park. Council unanimously directed the township manager to begin working with the engineer and design team to move it forward. It has been a long and challenging year for our fields and the advisory board is truly grateful
that working alongside our elected officials and Tene leadership, we are now hopefully able to discuss the next steps toward bringing this muchneeded and long-awaited project to fruition. On behalf of myself and our board members who represent thousands of children,
families, and stakeholders across Tene from every corner and community, including the PP, Tene Southern, TBO, Tene Junior football, T junior soccer, Top Soccer, and the board of education. We thank you for your commitment to this
critical effort. We are excited to continue this journey with you and deeply appreciate your continued support. Thank you. Thank you very much, Mr. Rose. Anybody else afterwards? Paul, you'll go next. Thank you. Howard Rose, township
resident. Three main topics tonight. Ice, snow, development. There's been some very eloquent speakers, and I know that you heard them. I hope you're listening uh and take it into consideration
what's been going on. Let's start with ICE. Uh we had a very ardent statement made by council members, very strong, very eloquent, very wellstated and the responses by other council members varied from enthusiastic to tepid at
best. It was a unanimous vote and uh I hope it wasn't unanimous because people think that well if everyone else is voting that way I'd better not be the odd one out. There are some discordant people about
what's going on with ICE. You know, I'm not really in favor of a township taking on international politics, national politics, and ICE, which is national, but ICE seems to be different because it's happening in Tene. And that's the
big difference. Does what you proposed and put in as an ordinance duplicate what's really on the books already about department of police and of people and this that and the other? I think it's redundant. I think it's repetitive. And I think that's okay because it has to be
repeated. The Northeast President's Block Association put out statements in Spanish and English for how to conduct yourself if ICE are encountered. I went to a neighboring store. I have a store on Cedar Land as you know, and asked if I could give it to their
employees, the statement, and I was told no, they don't need it. So there are doubting Thomas'. I pasted that statement on the window of my store and by the next morning it was ripped down. So yes, I think you have to state it. I
think it has to be understood. It has to be followed. Let me get on to something easier now. Snow, not ice. Uh I I cleared my walkway of my house so the postman could arrive with the mail. I cleared it and made it safe in front of
my store. And lo and behold, the Department of Public Works put a three- foot high, three- foot wide burm of snow on the sidewalk in front of my store. They had nowhere else to put it,
and that's unfortunate. People made do it was safe to walk. It was fine. Most store owners came, some of them later than others, and cleared out the area. Two or three days later, the snow disappeared. it was gone. And I want to
thank you for that. I I saw the guys in the trucks and the uh lifts taking it away uh nearby and I thanked them directly for it and they were appreciative of that. It it's not just noticeable. It made it safe. It meant
that cars could park correctly, people could walk correctly. It looked like a regular day. Development. My minutes are up. But you know what? So is a controversy up for grabs right now regarding the overdevelopment that's happening.
>> Thank you very much Mr. Rose. Mr. Rogman Paula Regoven it's very important that you pass the resolution tonight about ICE. But now that you've passed this resolution, it's urgent that every resident, every employee, every business
be informed of this commitment by the Teneck government to refuse all cooperation with ICE. We need all employees to receive and sign off on training. We need township officials and administration to provide resources to
residents. I suggest that forms be held in Spanish and English, resources posted on the township website. As a town, we will need to provide groceries, gift cards for supermarkets, and other support for impacted families. We will
have to say no to evictions of families if a bread winner, one or more, is detained. And it and we have to help impact impacted families. Often when elected officials vote, your vote is recorded and that's it. But voting for
this resolution cannot be a passive act. ICE will continue to kidnap and detain, even deport members of our community. They will leave children without one or both parents, grandparents or siblings.
It has happened already here in Tene. On Saturday, activists sang happy birthday to a young child outside of Delaney Hall, the ICE detention jail in Newark. She was there with her family to visit both of her parents who were currently
detained. This three-year-old was not from Tene, but this tragedy will happen here if we don't work together to prevent it. We need every council member to participate actively in protecting our beloved community. About the
crossroads plan, let me remind you that residents of Tene have already spoken out against the plan, which would place buildings in our municipal parking lots, depriving people of parking, causing extreme amounts of traffic, congestion,
pollution, and lack of parking south of Cedar Lane. The proposal to pipe flood water north of from north of Cedar Lane under Cedar Lane and American Legion Drive onto the CSX rail tracks will face
stiposition and legal action from CX CSX and probably from Bergen County. CSX has already told me that Crossroads doesn't want to foot the bill. So those of you who support this horrendous crossroads
plan, are you proposing that we the taxpayers, the residents of T-neck foot the multi-million dollar bill for drain flood drainage? Hell no. Crossroads must go. On the issue of artificial turf,
it's plastic. Plastic breaks down into microlastic. It gets into every scientists have said have shown it gets into every single organ of our bodies. It's dangerous and I I hope that you
will reconsider doing anything with astroturf. >> Thank you very much, man. >> Hi. Um I'm Lori Lmer, a scenic resident. I want to um commend you for the no ICE resolution. I also want to underline
what Paula just said. It can't just be a resolution. It can't just be something that you sign on a piece of paper. It has to be active. I don't particularly know what that means and how to make it
active other than there are maybe there should be a workshop on on what that means. Maybe you and the residents should be invited to a workshop on how to deal with ice if it comes by. What to
do with because what to do. Okay, that's enough because I really just want to commend you and also encourage you to deepen the resolution individually and as a group. Um, I'm here about the
crossroads. I've gone to a few meetings and I just heard the gentleman who uh before who was very articulate, what are you doing? How could you even
consider this? It's madness. The traffic, it's madness. The pollution, it's madness. The the water into the railroad, it's madness. People don't want it. It's madness. Is it the money? The money. The money. The
money. The money. It's just friaking madness. Nobody wants it. Nobody. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Anybody else?
>> Anybody else on this meeting? Ma'am, sir, did you want to go next? She's going to ma'am. Ma'am, please. Ma'am, please come speak, ma'am. I'm calling you. Sure. You go next. >> My name is Susan Schultz. I'm a resident
of Teneck and uh I'm want to commend you uh with about the ICE resolution. I'm so glad that you came together and you passed it. Um and I agree that that's the first step and that more needs to be
done. I also want to talk personally about I live on uh Oakdeen between Queen Anne and T-neck road and the amount of traffic that there is on T-neck road I
can't make a left. So even if I have to go that direction I make a right and I go around. Um but that's just you know a one small area. the idea of adding a lot more residents,
uh, big buildings where it's going to increase the traffic, uh, is really something to consider whether or not our roads here in T-neck can handle it.
Um, and so I just wanted to make that point and I hope you'll think about it. Thank you. >> Thank you very much, ma'am. Serp. >> Good evening to the mayor and the council. I'm a teen egg resident. My name is Michael Baker. Uh, one of my neighbors asked me to read this for him
because he couldn't make it here tonight and couldn't get on Zoom. I'm here to speak about the five-story structure at 827, which we know as Regina's and Zenas. Our neighborhood is defined by its colonial character. shoehorning a five-story building into the space as a
portrayal of the families who moved there for privacy and quiet. When you approve a five-story tower in a low profile zone, you aren't just changing a map. You're devaluing the investment that every person on that block has made. All the neighbors, their privacy, even the sunlight for some of them will
be traded away. You cannot hide a building of this scale with a slanted roof, which is what we were told. It doesn't hide the fact that the building will peer into our backyards and into our windows and overshadow even the civic center and the library and the campus which is across
the street here. A five-story wall is an aesthetic failure that permanently degrades the character of old T-neck. Beyond aesthetics, this is a safety failure. The Teneck Road and Cedar Lane corridor is known as one of the most congested and hazardous intersections in
the neighborhood. It's a documented bottleneck with a high frequency of accidents beyond traffic. It's a danger for pedestrians getting off the commuter buses and students walking to school. I also want to address the argument that was previously made to us that we should
welcome the building because it replaces a noisy restaurant. But then we see on the documents that were issued to us by the clerk that the restaurant is a possibility again bringing back the same clientele that they've had over the last few years that have wreak havoc on our
block. The residents would rather stay with the old problem which is three nights a week Thursday and Saturday than go to a five-story tower looming over our homes where their ordinance doesn't allow for parking for visitors or the commercial spaces to be on the ground
floor. We aren't trading Regina's Azenus for acquired apartments. We are permanently taking on a five-story complex with which produces 140% more occupants to the neighborhood. The proposal lacks
public necessity and it appears to only benefit the owner of the the restaurant, harming dozens of families. Two of the families on the block have moved knowing that this was coming and hearing from their real estate agents that they're going to lose value in their homes. So, we hope that when we do decide to vote
on this, because we've been here three times and we get, like the lady says, we get pushed off and we don't know if we're going or coming at this point. We hope that somebody will take into account what we're saying. >> Thank you. >> Anybody else like to see?
>> Is there anyone else in the room likely to speak? Okay. After Mr. After Madison, we will go to Zoom and Ron control the Zoom. Thank you, sir. >> Good evening, council. I would like to also commend you for a job well done,
and it's a beautiful thing when Tina comes together. I I just wanted to make a public announcement. Uh, of course, February is Black History Month, and every Thursday there is uh program there are programs at the library that are
very informative and I think that we should all participate. Looking forward to seeing you guys at the library. >> Thank you very much, Eson. With that said, we'll turn over our good welfare to Zoom and Ron Goodman. Ron, please go ahead.
>> Michael Goldberg, you have three minutes. >> Mr. Gilbert. >> Oh, you know what? I think that's Hill. It's me, Hildy Dylan. Um because I use somebody else's Zoom today for a meeting and that's Michael. So I think I'm I'm
could rename myself Hildy, but um >> yeah. Okay. So, can I go ahead? >> Please go ahead, Ron. >> Okay. Sorry about that. Um good evening everyone. Um, I do commend the council for passing the um, ICE resolution, but
I do have a recommendation. I think you should send this resolution to our new governor, Mikey Cheryl, and to our district 37 legislators. I think it's very important that they know that our municipal elected officials
um feel strongly about um uh supporting their communities in um at during these times um and recognizing the uh brutality that we have been seeing not just uh here in Bergen County
but also throughout the United States and that our police department is trained and is following the immigrant trust directive. I think you should also in sending that to them ask them to pass the pending legislation. There are two
immigrant protection bills that are pending in the New Jersey state legislature. One is data protection of immigrants and the other one is um to codify the immigrant trust directive into law which is very important. right
now it's policy that police departments may or may not um embrace and if it is codified into law then we will see that type of regulation throughout our state um that because they will be following New Jersey state law. So, I really
recommend that the council, we talked about courage, let your legislators know on the state level uh what you about this resolution and how you are supporting your community and that you would like to see stronger legislation
passed in our state. There's not much that we can do about ICE coming into Tene, but we can do as much as we can to protect our communities. Also, a safe communities act was passed into law by
Governor Murphy before he exited his post. And the attorney general now in New Jersey is mandated through that law to provide guidance to houses of worship, schools, and other public
places on um how they can protect themselves from ICE. Um and to develop a a policy that their employees can follow. This would be really helpful because I do know through talking to my
neighbors that many houses of worship are trying to come up with their own policies if I should come knocking on their door. Our school systems are trying their best, but this would be actually guidance from our attorney general and could be quite helpful to
our community. So, I think you should ask our current attorney general to get those policies written and in our hands as soon as possible. Um there's a lot that you can do. They listen to municipalities, uh especially our
elected officials. So >> yeah, Hildy, your time is up. >> Thank you. >> Keith Kaplan, you have three minutes. >> Mr. Kaplan, please unmute yourself. Okay, now
>> Keith, you're still muted. >> Mr. Kaplan, you're muted to Mr. Kaplan. >> Ron, do we have anyone else after Mr. Kaplan? Yeah. Someone named Khan. Is that Rash Khan?
>> Nope. >> Hi, good evening. This is Rishma Khan. >> Go ahead, please. Hi. >> Thank you. Um, thank you council for passing the ice resolution. >> Cold, tepid, warm, inviting, it doesn't matter the temperature. We've passed the
resolution. Now let's take the next steps of how we can make our residents feel taken care of and um not in fear. Forums is a classic example as well as ways in which we can organize u some kind of food drives where friends can
take food, groceries, supplies etc to the families who are in need. Um, as regards the crossroads project, it is so abundantly clear that there is so much of a resident opposition to this project and time and again at every council
meeting you are hearing us >> and we are coming together whether we are organized groups or grassroots or not even everyone has spoken with so much passion and gusto about their opposition to this project. So in what
way is this project going to help us? It only seems to be overwhelming residents already and it is not even up. So how can we actually convince you not to go ahead with this project? Development should improve a community. This is
actually doing the opposite of that. Um and finally in relation to one of the items of the business that was discussed this evening about the votgrade. Um I think that's great that we want to focus on voty park but time and again we
have talked about using most funds which taxpayers have said that it is for they have we have agreed but as per the referendum that is for acquiring lands which I get it I get it there are no open lands for recreation and conservation purposes developing the
open spaces that we have in tene maintaining those and and um historic preservation of historic properties and structures Now if we keep focusing our efforts on Vodie Park, we are constantly ignoring parks in the northeast which include
Windsor, Toolka, the Feldman Park, um and of course the biggest Argon which uh Councilman G, thank you so much. You stated it so eloquently. It's not a matter of comparing dollars to dollars and what needs to be done. It's a question of are you going to even think
about these parts or leave them derelict and then god knows in few years it will be an AI INR. I'm not putting any ideas in your heads but we know how you have operated over the last few years and how this council has been pushing properties to become a INRs by ignoring them. These
some of these parks are beautiful parks but there's no public access because people are using it as trash sites. So I would suggest and recommend that you use most money where it is supposed to be used and use it fairly rather than
focusing on upgrading what is uh what is being done in the current parks. Again nothing against the votee upgrade. I think that's fantastic. But there are other parts that have been demanding our attention for a very long time. Thank you. >> Thank you very much Miss Khan Ron.
Anybody else? Helen Emand Helen, please go ahead. Let me use you. >> Can you hear me? >> Yes, ma'am. >> Hi, my name is Helen Eand. I reside on Falmouth AB. I've been a resident of Tene for 15 years. Um, I'm very concerned about the presence of ice in town as a parent, as a resident, as a
customer of local Tene businesses. I am especially disturbed that a young child was recently picked up by ice at her bus stop going to LOL Elementary School. Um, how can the children and families in our town, our TEK students be protected from ICE? Also, our local businesses, patients at Holy Name Hospital, and
parishioners of our many places of worship be protected from ICE. My children have attended Tene Public Schools since kindergarten. They were afraid that their friends or their friends parents might be deported when they were at Whittier Elementary School during our current president's first administration due to his rhetoric,
threats, and policies. Now almost 10 years later, my kids are now attending Tene High School. And that fear is coming to life. ICE is literally here picking up Tene residents, including a TEK student, their fear is real. I shared at last month's meeting that my kids sometimes leave school to get lunch
at Hot Bagel, Popeye's, or one of the many diverse restaurants on Tene Road. Ice has been spotted on Tak Road multiple times. I'm concerned about the safety of TK students and the residents of Tene, particularly who live in that area of town. the number of comments on social media from members of our
community who minimized what happened to the young child who was picked up by ICE at the at her bus stop saying basically nothing happened because she was released were frankly disturbing. This child is going to carry that experience with her. And if there were any children on the bus who witnessed their friend,
their busmate, their classmate get picked up by armed agents, they will also carry this with them. I'm a licensed social worker. If you don't know about the ACES study, look it up. This was an adverse childhood experience created by our federal government. Our local Tene government needs to continue
to meet the moment. Did ISIS's interaction with this family make us feel safer as a community? Not for me. The statements from surrounding towns, including our neighbor, Ridgefield Park, expressed empathy and concern for the safety of their residents. The original statement from Tenic was disappointing
and simply covered logistics. While it's good to hear confirmation that our local police department will be following the AG's directive, so much was left unsaid. I'm grateful to see the resolution passed unanimously tonight. I have faith that our local police can address our
local crime issues. These ICE agents coming into our town. Reporting has confirmed they have almost no training, almost no vetting, and some have their own violent criminal histories, including violence towards children. Again, the leadership in Tene needs to continue to meet the moment. While we're
waiting for the reporting website from our new governor, everyone can check for ICE sightings and make reports at people over papers, which is iceout.org. Um, thank you again for passing the resolution unanimously and for the time to speak. >> Thank you very much, Juan. We have
anybody else? >> Yes, Chuck Powers. Mr. Powers, go ahead, please. You have three minutes. Can't >> do that in person. Okay, Helen, I think you need to we need to mute. Helen and Chuck, please go ahead. Dr. Powers, >> did you did you un
We hear you. >> You hear me now? >> Yes. >> First, uh, thanks so much for a unanimous decision on the on the ICE resolution tonight. Back in the first week in June, we were suddenly told
mostly by our attorneys that the township absolutely had to pass a whole new set of procedures to deal with affordable housing requirements.
And about 6 days later, they forced us to approve the documents that said that there were there were six properties that we wanted to turn into
massive multi multi-story buildings for affordable housing. And on the 15th of March, looking out ahead
to about a month, we're going to be told again by those same lawyers, that we absolutely have to pass all of the ordinances, which are going to have those four of those six properties
operate in the way in which the developers have said they want them to be. and place them. And you've heard tonight the folks around 827 know that they should not be having to take that tall building so close to their to their
residential properties. They're supposed to be 150 ft. They're only 40 ft by the latest resolution if you had in fact passed it tonight. But my actual concern is it appears
that somebody has now rescheduled everything. So when we are actually supposed to vote on ordinances, we are going to be told as residents and council that we absolutely have to pass
these things by the 15th of March. And if that's the case, anything that happens to come popping up on those ordinances like the ones that were going to mistakenly be proposed tonight
have to be passed because otherwise we'll be in violation and we'll be will be sued by all of those terrible developers. We're going to racing into our town. What's going on with these delays about what it is that you're
asking us to approve? Why don't we know about it? Why do you keep on delaying the actual votes on these very important issues, denying the public the opportunity to amend whatever you decide
to come up with? I'm sorry, but our attorneys are absolutely not representing anything like the kind of transparency that brought forth your action tonight on the ICE on the ICE process. Thank you,
>> Mr. Goodman. Who else do you have? Teresa. Teresa, please unmute yourself. >> Hi, good evening. Can you hear me? >> We hear you. >> Hi, this is Terresa Bayitz resident. Um, I'll I'll be brief because it's late. Um, I just want to thank the
council, every single one of you, for the unanimous um passing of the resolution tonight that expressed empathy and concern for Tene residents and for the safety of Tene residents and um and doing what you can to um to ensure that residents can feel safe
taking their kids to school and patronizing local businesses and walking freely about our town um while clarifying the role of local law enforcement. Um, unfortunately we're living in a in a very complicated time and um and it means a lot to the residents of Tene to see a resolution
like this pass unanimously. Um, and I would just, you know, I would urge you all to to not be discouraged by some of the negativity that you're hearing tonight from commenters um, who are, you know, saying it wasn't enough. I I appreciate that you took the time to
work on language that everybody could agree on rather than a a a knee-jerk or too quick reaction um in the moment. Um so I I thank you for that. Um, and I will just say I I'm not aware of the the earlier plans for a um a stadium in
Argon Park, but if that's up for grabs, I would be remiss during my three minutes to not make another suggestion for what you could potentially put in Argon Park, which would be um another wonderful thing for our residents if there's budget and there's space. It would be amazing to get a skateboarding
park in Tene for all of our residents. So, thank you again, council. >> Thank you very much, Miss Bitz. Mr. Mr. Goodman, do you have anybody else? >> Yes, Sam Passner. And then Keith, we'll bring you in next. >> Okay, Mr. Passner, please go ahead. You have three minutes. Start the clock.
>> Hello. Yes, I would like to reiterate what was said by many other speakers before me on the thanks to the town council for passing the ICE resolution. Another resolution that I was excited to see on the agenda was the information
information services department and the creation of one. I think it is important that however whatever your thoughts are on the town council, our town government and what it can and should do, we should always try and have our government operate effectively and wisely. Speaking
of wise and effective governance, I saw another resolution which clearly embodies the antithesis of it which was resolution ordinance number 12 which wanted to recover certain costs for the fire department. I spoke about this last
month about how frankly immoral I find this against our town and desperate residents who just had would have had major damage to their properties and homes. But not only is it immoral, it's frankly completely unpractical and would
be damaging to both people who want to pay insurance on their homes or people whose house is next door to somebody else's homes who is now who also had nothing to do with a fire that just happened, but would now have their
insurance and themselves responsible for a fire that affected their towns. Again, we don't want to discourage people to put out fires and calling the fire department because if somebody else's if the neighbor's home is on fire and they
don't want to put it out, well, that can spread to my house and do damage to me or to my family's house, I should say, as I don't own a home. I think the fundamental problem here is that we are
trying to inefficiently recover costs from residents for what truly is and should be a public service that the residents of this town are already paying for. I do not understand why not only was this re ordinance passed in the
first uh or sorry authored and introduced in the first place but after discussion last week and comments from the public it was re last month it was reintroduced this month. This resolution is completely this ordinance is
completely ridiculous. It is unwise government and it is wrong. I do not understand why it got reintroduced and I really really hope that it gets defeated once and for all and is never reintroduced again. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Pastor. Okay,
Mr. Kaplan, if we can please unmute him for these three minutes. >> Hello. Can you hear me? >> Yes, >> sir. Go ahead. Please start the clock. Now we can't hear you. You have to unmute your button, sir. Thank you. >> Can you hear me?
>> Yes. >> Okay. Regarding the ICE directive, you don't yet have my thanks, but I would like you to earn it. Regarding the AG Trust directive, the police, we've heard tonight are in compliance, and that's good because the AG trust directive is
what mandates the police to act in this area. What the town council could do but did not is mandate through the manager to get compliance reports instead of the one annual report they do get monthly
reports. Make sure that they put every month that people can actually see that they are complying. if they're complying as the and I have no reason to believe they're not. If they're doing that, it's a tangible report that can be given to the public so they can actually see that
they are feeling safer. There are reasons to pass resolutions like this. Chief among them is signaling, which is good. We should signal what we are about and the resolution does that. But there are people that spoke today that think the resolution has actual teeth, that it
has some form and effect, that it changes a process. It doesn't change anything. Doesn't change how police respond. Doesn't change how ICE responds. It changes nothing. But the mandated reporting of monthly reports, suddenly people know that someone's
looking at that. They're going to have a reaction. It might not be, you know, pleasant from the police. they don't necessarily like creating reports. But if you want people to actually feel safer, mandate monthly reporting. Regarding the um other trust account
we're talking about, why uh start with vote park? You want to put something in Argon, put bathrooms. When I was on council, we had a plan. We put modular bathrooms in Phelps. They actually work to this day. People are using them. And let me tell you, more people using the
park will tell you what people want in those parks. You get people to use them, and bathrooms are a great way to get more people into those parks. They will tell you what amenities they want in those parks now that they're being used a lot more. Start getting bathrooms in
all these parks. The amount that it's going to take to turf all these fields, we can get modular bathrooms in the majority of our parks and affect a huge amount of residents. And the last thing I just wanted to touch on was development. Look, before your house was here, whoever is coming up to the mic to
talk about development, whether there were 900 people, 16,000, 30,000, however many, somebody was complaining that building your house would be the last straw. And it a 100 years from now when people are living in the new homes, those people living in those new homes
that you're objecting to right now will be objecting to any future development because it is too much. We all live here and we live here simply because somebody who was previously living here was inconvenienced with development. That is
the natural cycle of a town. We should have legitimate discussions about how to grow and give more space, but we have tons of people. >> Thank you, Mr. Kaplan. >> Mr. Goodman, do we see anybody else? >> No hands. >> No other hands. That being said, good
and welfare is now closed. Councilwoman Goldberg, is there anything you'd like to say? I think you're >> Yes. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. >> Um, so just first, as I said earlier tonight, uh, we as leaders have to call out hate every time. There's no excuses. So tonight, it was important for
residents who are rightfully afraid. So when we stand with our immigrant community, why is anyone bringing up Israel? Tonight just told me that February 10th, 2026 and October 17th, 2023 are both important nights in Tene. Anti-semitism does not require you to
just say Jews. It's conspiracy theories. I really wish I didn't have to say that tonight, but I look around and I have no idea what year it is. It sort of feels like 2021 or 2022. I want to thank Mr. Yuck, who seriously took the words that I said at Regina's restaurant on election night. It happened to them and
it could happen to you. So, thank you for being the only person at the planning board speaking up for the golf court residents, Bennett Court, for Margaret Baker. I hear about Crossroads. I hear about 54 West England Avenue, but only Mr. Yuck is speaking out for neighbors when he doesn't live there.
So, thank you. A certain newsletter once said that the master plan is a social contract. Former councilman Dr. Tooffler and I wrote in that newsletter under the topic of what is the master plan. Community meetings are important, but residents providing input at those meetings are not checking for the master
plan consistency. They're trusting their council, the land use boards, the lawyers, the planners. They're trusting that when they're given two choices, why is it always plan A or plan B? That when what's presented that their real plans to actually negotiate the changes. I personally am frustrated and exhausted
and I do not understand why anyone thinks that giving away all the cards does not imperil every neighborhood or why anyone is tempted to just go along. Our job is not to just go along. It's to represent the people that voted for us to represent the people whose living rooms that we sat in and promised to
protect. It illustrates that Tina calls all of the cards something that we don't always seem to appear or appreciate. So I hope that whenever the the two plans are presented at the 54 West Englewood Avenue forum when the ordinance is draft that the social contract that the master plan is respected. We spent 18 months on
that and it needs to be respected at 54 West Englewood Avenue and at Regina's. Every neighborhood in TX deserves that protection. I made changes to those ordinances before. Shockingly the planning board and the planner agreed with those changes. It doesn't have to be a fight every
single time. if we do the work before it's introduced. The planning board made sure to put setback requirements in the master plan that we worked so hard on so that when new buildings about abuing single family zones like Regina's that there's not another another Margaret Baker. I will not vote to ever let
another resident lose sunlight the way she did. There is still time to make changes to protect those residents. Otherwise, I will be voting no on Regina's. It's really not a hard thing to fix. I hope that three other members of this council will work with me to protect to protect those neighbors and make those changes and reintroduce the
ordinance and then the planning board and the council may actually vote unanimously without any lengthy discussions that seems to be having. So, thank you Mr. Yuck and thank you Mr. S for for your vote on the planning board. That's what representing all of Tene means. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Thank you, Council McGover. Mr. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Yes, I'll be quick because it's getting late tonight. As always, I want to thank everybody for coming out tonight and participating. I also want to thank everybody who spoke in favor of the anti-ICE pro-immigrant resolution. And just for those who are
keeping score in the audience and at home, I will be voting no on the crossroads project. I will be voting no on the Regina's project. And I have I have to abstain on the West Anglewood project due to a campaign contribution, but I am in favor of most of the other
projects. And thank you again for coming out tonight. Thank you, Mr. Pan. Mr. Katz, I think it's me. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, so I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who came out and spoke in support of our um
resolution uh protecting immigrant our immigrant communities, our residents. Um, as we recognize, um, Black History Month, I think we want to honor the profound contributions of black Americans who have helped to shape our nation and strengthen our communities. Um, and I think this resolution also
reaffirms our commitment to advancing equity, celebrating diversity, and ensuring that our municipality is a place where every resident feels safe, feels seen, feels heard, and empowered. Um, in addition, I do want to address the comments about the development. This
has been a really um difficult process as we're managing again the requirement to meet the affordable housing um uh directives from fair share while also ensuring that we incorporate feedback from the community and finding that that
delicate balance. Um, I am 100% fully committed to incorporating feedback from this community, ensuring that we represent all voices as we continue to um, look at development in this town. And I think the what we have to remember
is that it's important that we retain control. Um, and that's, you know, what the the work of this um, council has been trying to do. Are the current plans that you've seen perfect? Absolutely not. And if we lose control, then we have no say in it. So, it's really about
trying to manage that delicate balance. Um, and I want you to know that we hear you and we are continuing to advocate for all of you. Thank you, >> Deputy Mayor. >> Uh, yeah, I just want to thank everyone for coming out tonight and um expressing your your concerns. I want to remind
residents that there is a community meeting uh next uh week on the 17th at 7:00 p.m. here um in the chambers uh regarding the West Anglewood Avenue um development. Um I also just want to
underscore um the fact that regarding Crossroads, I've always wanted uh and continue to to support a community meeting. Uh we have tentatively scheduled that for February 26 at 8:00 PM here in the chambers. Uh I have
always supported having impact studies that are specific to this development because it is a unique development um specifically a traffic study, drainage study, transit analysis. Uh and I would
just ask that in regards to the upcoming meeting that um um Mrs. manager that you would try to get a representative from New Jersey Transit and a representative from Senator Gordon Johnson's office um here to speak to some of the specific
idiosyncrasies uh surrounding this this project. Um I would like to also underscore the fact that um uh as it's been explained that there's language that's been tightened up on the public benefit that we really explore those in
detail. uh during that community meeting. Uh I want to also mention that regarding 827 Tene Road uh Regina's I've always been in favor of the fourstory height. The fourstory height uh I
believe that the planner has done work to speak to setbacks that are that are really good. Uh we've come a long way with this. Um and um it doesn't mean that it cannot be a fourstory
um project. Uh I just want to underscore that. And lastly, regarding the ICE resolution, it is truly a start. I know many people have asked uh made that statement, but our uh our commitment is to uphold um our oath of office. That
that's my guiding light. That's that's what my litmus test is always going to be. Um, my first action was to raise my right hand and to swear an oath to the Constitution of the State of New Jersey and to the country. Um, and um, what the
next steps speak to is that we stay engaged. We must all stay engaged. We must look out for our neighbors. Uh, looking at Governor Mikey Shur has established this portal where we can upload photos. So, we do want to t uh if
we see something um take pictures of it. Um we have a right to do that. Um the we have a right to protest, we have a right to freedom of speech, we have a right to assemble and we have a right to to pro
uh protest and we are in our residents and immigrants are entitled to due process. Um, someone had mentioned the fact that what about prior administrations when it came when it comes to immigration? Uh, I don't think
we ever ever under any former administration seen the level of brutality that we're seeing in the streets today. Uh I can speak from a Democratic uh presidency, President Obama or even
the Bush administration or any other administration. I do not believe we have seen the level of of illegal uh brut brutal actions that have been taken uh and and it's not acceptable um by we're
seeing poorly trained masked men and women who are refusing to identify themselves. This is truly a police state and this is the origin of why this resolution is so important. And lastly,
our measure of who we are as a township and even as a nation is not to compare ourselves to wannabe democracies or democracies that are pretending to be democracies or masquerading as
democracies. Our measure is our constitution. >> Thank you very much, Deputy Deputy Organ. Um, so did nobody else think it was adorable to have the girls here at a meeting during um women's month in
March? I I thought it was so cute. I would love to do that. Um maybe not on the 10th because we're very busy, but maybe on the 31st. I'm happy to reach out to her and and um see if we can plan something. Mr. Addison, I'm going to try to get to the library. Um I do have a
shift this Thursday night till late, but I'm going to try to get there on a Thursday. Um, we have a really vibrant parks, playground, and recreation advisory board and we're doing work in every park. Um, we did put the bathrooms in Phelps. We also put them in we're
putting them in Brooks. We're putting them in Argon. Uh, playgrounds in uh we have a new one coming in Sagamore. Uh, a bathroom in Vote also. Um, Toaloka is a forest. It's not a park. We um we don't
develop that. uh football courts in Andreas Park. Um we splash pad coming to Argon. We fixed the tennis courts in Argon. And we have a swim club that we just um spent a summer many months um
revitalizing and we hope to put in pickle ball ball or tennis there. So a lot of work is being done in every park depending on what it needs. the the discussion now is for one particular field that will service um football,
soccer, and baseball at the same time. And it needed to be in a park that had the infrastructure already there, parking, uh bathrooms, the fieldhouse. It would piggy back on all of that. And that's the reason why that the field advisory board chose
this. I look forward to the presentations coming up again though, though we have had one or both. Um but um I look forward to inviting the children back uh so they can speak on behalf of the field. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Um quite a bit of
people left. Quite a bit of people probably still not online, but quite a bit of people did not either research your conversations, their speeches before they made it or are not here to hear their their errors. Mr. Pasner, you spent three minutes talking about a fire ordinance that was
significantly changed. We heard all the comments. There is no reference whatsoever to homes in the new ordinance. So, please review that. I'm sure you'll find it satisfactory. Um, I wanted to thank Mr. Ash, our
redevelopment attorney for working with the council, working with the town, and pushing through over months now, over years now, pushing through all the the state requirements that we must meet the affordable housing components. It's not easy. It may seem
unfair, but it's the law. It's the law passed by the state. It's not the law passed by the council, but it's ours that we must enforce it. With that said, I wanted to thank Councilman G and Council Deputy Mayor Belchure who are your comments on the projects that we
have to do that we may not want to do, but we realize we need to do it. And I appreciate your help and your support with that. Councilman Goldberg, we don't represent the people whose living rooms we sat in only. We represent all of town. If they voted for you, if they contributed your campaign, if they
hosted you, it doesn't mean that's all who you listening to. We have hundreds of people living in apartments in town that can't afford houses. Millions of people in this country that can't afford houses. And it is the fault of every single person against progress in this
country, in this town, in this state that spent years fighting. We heard it all before. We are promised derailments by Avalon. We are promised derailments by the charter school. We were promised derailments up and down the train tracks. We were promised that 1500 where
we create massive traffic. Every single building that we've built has only done one thing. Brought in millions upon millions of dollars to this town, created hundreds of affordable units, created opportunities for people to come
and live in TK. The same opportunities that we had because we were able to buy something or rent something. And now we're doing that like Mr. Kaplan has said for other people. I look forward to these passing. I look forward to the developments bringing affordability and bringing people to our downtown
business districts. And with that, I look forward to going to the consent agenda as well. Thank you. So for the consent agenda tonight, we have resolution 73-106 and then um resolution 109-2026 would be the resolution that would um
for regime for co-chair for ABCR and then resolution 109-2026 would be for Paula as co-chair ABC >> and the bill is the amount of >> $1,34,795. $523. >> Thank you very much.
>> Sorry. Wait, 108 and 109 were the co-chair ones. 108. What's 107 again? >> The ICE resolution. >> Got it. Yeah. >> I have a question, Christian. Uh, regarding the uh reintroduction uh
reintroduction of of the seven uh 2026. >> We'll do that after when we do the introduction. >> Okay, perfect. >> Got it. Okay. >> Which was 108, which was 109. >> 108 would be for Rashma and 109 is for Pola. >> Thank you very much. So with that said,
um I'll make a move. Is there anyone that wants to pull anything? Mr. Pagan, pull anything? Nope. Um Deputy Mayor Belure. Um anybody on this side want to pull anything? Council McGover. With that said, I'll make a motion to pull all resolutions as well as the bill
list. Roll call, please. >> Okay. >> I'm sorry. Is there a second on my motion? >> Second. >> Second. >> Wait, I'm confused. Sorry. You're approving all resolutions list or pulling. >> I'm in a motion to approve.
>> You said pulling. Sorry. Second. >> Said. Okay. Go ahead. And >> Councilwoman Goldberg. >> Mr. Next. >> Councilman Pagan. >> I have four abstensions. Kristen, I'm going to abstain on 74,
84, 108, 109, and I'm a yes on everything else. >> Councilwoman J. >> Yes to all. >> Councilman Katz, >> yes. With an absention on the bill.
>> Deputy May Belchure. Yes to all. >> Deputy Mayor Oregon. >> No to 108. Yes to the rest. >> And Mayor Schwarz. >> No to 108. And yes to the rest. >> Mr. Mayor, can I vote? >> Yes,
>> all right. Kristen, I'm I have yeses and nos on different stuff. Can I go one at a time for you? So that way we get it. >> It won't be long. It's just So 73. I'm just going to go down. So 73. Yes. Were 74 and 75 pulled?
>> Nothing was pulled. Please go ahead with >> Okay. Well, okay. So, 74 75? No. 76? Yes. 77? Abstain. 78? Yes. 79? Yes. 80?
Yes. 82? Yes. 83? Yes. 84? 83? Yes. 84? Abstain. 85 No. 86. Uh, yes. 87 No to attendance. 88
Yes. 89. Yes. 90. Yes. 91. Yes. 92 93 94 95 Yes. 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 Yes. 103 Abstain. 104 No. 105 106 Yes. 107 Yes.
108 and 109. No, sorry. I'll I'll email it to you also just so you have it. >> Okay. Um, skipped 81. >> 81 is Yes. >> Okay. >> Oh, and I'm stay on the bill.
>> Take a second. Chris, go for your take your time. >> Sorry. I just want to check the uh budget ones. >> Okay. >> I have a question of >> order. >> Oh, I What? You want to vote first or um
or you have the total? >> She has all the votes. You have all the votes. >> I have I have a point of order. Um can you just confirm um the status of 107 and 108? >> Which one was 107? >> We we pulled 107 wasn't being voted on.
>> We're looking for 108 and 109. >> 108 to 109. Yes. you stand. >> Okay. So 108 does not pass and 109 I think does. Correct? >> Thank you very much. And the bill is passed. >> Okay. >> Sorry. Just point of information. Um
Scott, can you just remind me what happens in the event of a tie? It's just it's a no. >> Um okay. And with that, we'll head to our introduction of ordinances. Was there an adjustment made on um Mr. Attorney as we're relating to seven that
seven no longer has an issue or >> Yeah, that's correct. So, there was a misunderstanding. Uh it's my fault. The the question was about whether or not we had a um 15 or 20% uh set aside for uh sales
uh or for units that were for sale. It was my impression before that we had a 15% uh and so the the request was to increase to 20%. Um but that was my my understanding was incorrect. After reviewing the code real we do currently have a uh 20%. So no no further changes
needed. So um I mean we're at this point as well we just reintroduce it and uh >> understood. So we'll reintroduce it now and that'll be up for vote next time even though there are no changes. But isn't there a problem that it explicitly says rentals? Shouldn't we just take out
rentals if if the inference is that it's for all property? So either we should take out rentals or we should add resales. >> So >> that makes sense. I agree with Deputy Mayor Belchure, but the code does say 20 right code currently says 15% rentals,
20% for sale. If the code is going to be updated to be both, what Deputy Mayor Belchure is saying makes sense. But they both wrote right now there is the separate. So I I get what she's saying and I agree with it. I just don't know what the intent is. >> So this is uh six of one half dozen of
another. We can either have it say uh current they're currently separated and we can and if we simply if we make the changes that are in here currently they will both say say 20% or we can uh there were a couple other sections that we would need to change as well uh to
remove references to for sale properties but we could we could do that uh either way >> but there's only two possibilities. It can only be a rental or a resale. Would you agree with that? >> I do. >> Okay. So why why don't we just be explicit and and call it what it is?
>> So you you're saying you want to remove uh the references to rentals or for sale and just make it that for all projects across the board. >> Yeah. Okay. We can do that. >> So that works for seemingly for everyone. Uh what do you want us to do to implement that? >> I would I would ask that we introduce this by title then uh the clerk just
read the title give it give it a new uh number and then that will be um published when we >> understood. >> Wait, Mr. attorney. Is there anything else that would have to be adjusted? Like do you want to >> said no? >> Like there's a part No, but I just want to make sure. Like I feel like on the
spot it's kind of confusing and I I would kind of Yeah. >> So there >> I like the concept, but I just want to be sure before so we don't have to fix it later. >> Yeah. So there can be other other sections in the code that we're going to have to that we will tweak. We don't for introduction purposes. You know, as a practice township, uh we always we we
typically will include copies of the ordinances uh at introduction. We don't actually need to do that. We just need to introduce by title and the actual text will be made available for for adoption. So, at this point, we can introduce it by title. I have discussions of what I'm going to change
and then the council would get it back and the public can get back for adoption with the correct text. >> I would be more comfortable if we were tableabling it just so we could make sure that it's done because once it's tabled and we have to reintroduce it, we potentially lose the deadline. >> Sorry. Could we could we get the guidance and implement and not talk
about it for the whole hours until the next meeting? We >> Yeah, at this point I just need to be introduced. Uh but we could use this the the same title just change the ordinance number. >> Thank you very much. Mr. Clerk, if you could please reintroduce as for the attorney's comment.
>> So the ordinance is up for introduction is ordinance 8-2026 an ordinance revising the township code as to commercial and movie filming. Ordinance 9-2026 amending the township code for the township of Kenic as a heating requirements for residential
properties. Ordinance 10-2026 amending and supplementing chapter 33 of the land use ordinance of the township to address the requirements of the fair housing act regarding compliance with the town's affordable housing obligations by establishing an
affordable housing overlay zone designated as inclusion area housing three overlay district and modifying the zoning map. This is for 1387 Hill Street. Ordinance 11-2026 is amending the township code to revise no parking
restrictions on Fort Le road. Ordinance 12-2026 is establishing certain recovery of fire department related costs and expenses. Ordinance 13-20226 is a bond ordinance amending and restating in the entirety
bonds ordinance number 22-2025 finally adopted by the township council of the township of Kak in the county of Bergen state New Jersey on May 20th 2025 and entitled bond ordinance providing for various 2025 capital improvements
buyin in the township of Kak in the county of Bergen state New Jersey appropriating 12,315,000. Therefore authorizing the issuance of 11,687,100 bonds or notes of the township to
finance part of the cost thereof to decrease the authorization of bonds or notes of the township of Kick to 10,518,450 to decrease down payment therein to $533,749
to increase the grants therein to 1.2 to for $242,81 and to amend the description of the grants referenced in section 1 A, B, and C and other provisions. and order 14
which is amending and supplementing chapter 33 of the land use ordinance of the township regarding New Jersey fair share fourth round settlement set aside. >> I'll make a motion to move those. >> Mr. Mayor, can I ask the attorney some
questions or discussion on some of these? So, um I don't if you want do you want to move some of I only have um questions on >> this question first and then >> Okay, so Mr. Attorney on nine, can you where did that this come from? I'm not even sure this the heating one. I don't remember us discussing it. I just no idea where it came from.
>> I'm sorry. I'm sorry. We're on nine. I got >> amending the township code for uh as to heating requirements. Just I have no idea where it came from. Oh, the the he requirements that came from a complaint that we received from a resident uh that pointed out that there was a disparity
between what we currently had in the code and what the revised um state uh state law required uh that revised a few years ago. So that was uh upon request from u yeah that's from the from the from the
health officer uh that that we update just to match the match the state code. >> Thank you. So, so that gets so that's the state code now and that that I just wanted to know on that one. Um >> on eight we already I'm just curious. I know I know we sort of talked about it
last meeting but don't we so what's the difference between this versus what we have in the code on the film ordinance now because we do have something. So I just I'm not clear what >> Yeah. >> Is this instead of or is this in addition to I just don't get that part. >> So this replaces it that's why we have the red line. We deleted all the uh
>> right >> the current the current section >> right >> what this does is this used a model ordinance uh that has been promulgated by the state um to uh allow Tina to be what's called a film ready municipality
which gets us on on certain lists uh that that are kept by the state to encourage uh all the new film production companies around New around New Jersey to use Tene as as one of their filming ations perhaps bring more reach revenue
both town as well as to individual property owners situations as movies TV shows as well. >> Okay. And then on um I have no nothing on um >> All right. So going to 12 that's the fire. Um
I have a I have a lot of concerns on this as far as the risk for increase in potentials for the premium increase for residents. Um, but I'm not even clear where the amounts came from. I did find other towns use the FEMA amounts. Um,
but my what's I mean residents so insurance carriers and I did actually call a few. I was curious to understand how this worked on their end. So, their rates are going to be specific to zip codes. So, by doing this, we're basically creating a search charge for our residents by having this. Can we do something where it's I mean even if we
we're billing it to the insurance companies, it's going to depend on what the accident so to speak is on where it even hits. Um we're we're literally raising our our residents insurance premiums and they are paid for in the fire department.
>> Um so what I was told actually that this is usually for towns that have volunteer. So I'm not really quite sure one again where this came from because we've never discussed this um before it was last time. Um, but two, what I mean, how are we how are we justifying we already have a paid fire department and
then we're putting sir charges on our our residents insurance premiums? Did anyone look into that? >> It's a question. We're discussing it now. That's what we're allowed to do. >> This is about automobiles. >> Uhhuh. Insurance premiums on automobiles. Insurance
>> car accident. You spoke now. I'm going to speak. >> Go ahead. If you get into a car accident, the liable party's insurance will be build based on the schedule starting with a $500 and ending up at 1,500 or $2,000. If you don't want to get build to your insurance company,
don't get into the don't cause the car accident as it relates to volunteer or no volunteer fire department. I've been a volunteer for 28 years. This town spends well north of $13 million on labor for our fire department. the labor
costs, the firefighter costs, the fire engine costs are going up. I can take the money out of everyone in this room, in this town's pocket, and I being the council, or if we dispatch two, one, two, three, four fire engines to Route 4 on a car accident that you caused, we're
going to bill you the $500. We're paying for it as residents, all 41,000 of us. But we're not the ones getting to the car accidents. And if we are, our insurance coverage may go up a few cents. You'll be a $50,000 auto body charge and a $500 fire department
charge. How that trickles down to the average person, I'm sure everyone in this room knows, probably very minimal. And it's not again related to homes. And if people want to vote against it, when we have to raise our budget next year, we're raising it from the homeowners instead. So it's liable car party
insurance or homeowners. Pick your poison. >> Mr. Attorney, isn't New Jersey a no fault car insurance state? >> I'm sorry. Can you repeat the question? And >> isn't New Jersey a no fault car insurance state? >> It it is
>> right. So it how is that impacted with what what the mayor just said it doesn't matter who caused the insurance and this so for the example I was actually told um by my insurance carrier I was questioning and in the instance of
let's say a tree falls on my car that's an automobile um that would not hit any that would hit a different line of my insurance that you know people it's not it's not hitting you know liability it's not hitting. Um, this was really technical,
but it's it's hitting. You're raising premiums and people are hurting. Um, I'm not we're double taxing first of all, but also still not sure where the amounts came from. We talk about Jaws of Life. I've been extricated by the Jaws of Life by a drunk driver. My mother
would have had to pay $1,500 to get me out. The guy disappeared. That's that's putting money on the victim because he disappeared. We're know I think that this still needs a lot more work. before we we do this. That's just my two cents. So, I will be a no on this. >> Thank you very much. Um sorry, the
deputy mayor organized last time changing the fee schedule to make it much higher. Uh $500 for um a production over 20 million I think is nothing. So, I I you know, we're trying
to be creative and raise money wherever we can. Um, I think that number should go up really high. And, um, street closures also, if they're going to be filming and we're, um, inconveniencing residents, I think we should be charging more.
>> We can, if the council wants to amend it, we can uh, >> I thought it's a model ordinance. We can't amend. >> We can we can amend the actual fees. We can't amend the rest of it. It's We're keeping the structure. We can change We're allowed to change the fees. Yeah.
question specific to uh 10 ordinance 10. Um it's it's it create I understand it creates an inclusionary housing. Why is three why is it in a three overlay? It's saying inclusionary
housing three overlay district. Can you explain that for uh 1387 Hill Street? which is the what's the specific language? >> It's uh it's 10 uh 2026. It says creates
an in uh inclusionary housing three overlay. >> Oh, that's just that's just the name of the the district. It just so for IH2 or there's IH3 as opposed to an IH2 or as opposed to IH1. Okay. The name of it.
>> Regina's doesn't have that or nor does Policy Avenue. I don't see that. I don't see. Okay. Wait a minute. I do see it. Okay. You're saying inclusionary housing one, inclusionary housing two. >> Just for reference so people don't get
confused between. >> Got it. >> I just was wondering why that stuck out. Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Anybody else? M. Clerk, if we can do the roll call individually, please, that would be great. I make a motion to We'll make a motion for all. And if there's a second on all.
>> How do we change the dollar amount here? >> Yeah. Are you willing to uh I would make a motion or amend to do you have something do you have specific? >> Yeah, I mean you tell me what other people think, but I would make a motion to amend eight um
to daily filming on public property, a project with a budget under 20 million for $2,000 a day. And if the budget is over 20 million, $10,000 a day, and street closures instead of 5,000 a day,
10,000 a day. But we we do we want to typ cast ourselves into specific numbers? I mean, don't we want to be open-ended about that? >> I we have to we have to include some some amount of of fees uh in the
ordinance. Otherwise, uh that's that's just the only way that the council probably what fees were charged anyway. Are you are you suggesting that we just leave the >> I have a minimum, you know, just to say that this is the this is the the uh the ceiling. this is where I mean this is
the the uh the base of minimum amount of >> um I mean so we we couldn't do that with the categories as they are because we we can't leave it up to anyone's discretion as to how much fees they would charge so like in this case I based on what you're
saying to leave it up to let's say you know Doug or Kristen's discretion as to what they're charging >> and we we can't do that the council that's allowed to have that so if you want to add more categories actually no I'm saying as I'm saying that out loud we can't do that without changing the model of ordinance. So I
think I think we just need to keep give specific amounts um the thing >> I'm sorry was the uh fees before my my microphone is feedback for somebody was the fees before also based on the budget or was that something that was just changed now?
>> I can't answer that question. We I'm not sure the the ones that are currently listed. >> The feed the Yeah, the filming fees. I don't remember it being based on the the budget of the movie. I thought it was just for specific needs >> for the the one that's currently in the code. That's correct. Yeah. It's not based on um Yeah,
>> we just added the budget. Listen, my my concern is listen, it's not like Hollywood's banging down the doors to to come and shoot here. I think it's a real honor when they do. Obviously, we want to make money. Um I just don't want to be a deterrent either. That's my, you know, I want to find that balance. I
agree with C with Deputy Mayor Organ about trying to find creative revenue. I just want to find, you know, not chase away revenue. Also, >> I don't think we've gotten >> we don't have what we >> got to very little revenue. So, this is
actually a revenue source. But if you have other dollar amounts to suggest, >> I mean, I would just do it. I would just increase anomaly. I don't know if I would put in the uh based on the film budget like I don't when they apply for a permit is that something they submit. I mean I thought in the past they just
apply for a permit and then we charge them based on their requests. >> Well, Scott's saying they can't we can't do that. We have to have a dollar amount under Yeah. under the to keep maintain model ordinance. >> No, I know. But we don't we don't we have to know their budget, >> right? We don't I mean we don't know
that. We don't know what we don't know. So, I mean, why don't we just put a minim minimum about amount to to um you know, Councilman Katz's point, we you know, we don't have anything now. So, I mean, it it's just like basically opening up the door to say we're open.
We're a town that's ready and to to be film ready. And that's the whole idea. We always adjust it over time, just like anything else. if we find that, you know, but I don't I don't think we have any production companies knocking on our door right now. So,
>> so not to give you a problem to your solution. I'll come up with a solution to my problem. Maybe we can strike the um film budget request. Um you just there's two two of them that you're addressing, right? Street closing and what's the other one? Filming per day.
>> The fees. >> Daily filming. Yeah. So, right now the daily filming fee is what? How much? >> Minimum of whatever's within there now 20. What is it? What is it? Um, Scott $150 if they're under a $20 million project or $500 if they're
over five. They they spend more than that on coffee. >> No, I I know I'm not I'm I'm not I'm not >> Dr. Yuck said at the last meeting that they offered him to sit on his lawn over $1,000. >> Yeah. Just to sit on his lawn. So that
we're actually throwing money out now by doing this. If anybody's coming here to film, I don't think $2,000 is going to be a deterrent for them or 10. I don't think they're >> So what if we just remove the um the budget and just put it down? >> You know, it's okay. What I
>> So why don't we let's amend the motion and let's vote on it. >> We'll film with sub form a subcommittee to review it >> and have a community meeting. >> Yes. >> Two community meetings. two committee meetings and a rush through over three years. >> My motion to amend, if there's a second,
is daily filming on public property under 20 million, $2,000 a day, over 20 million, 10,000 a day, and street closures, which we fall into the 10,000 residents should be 10,000 a day. >> Before seconding that, I I would say
let's go back to the commission. I I would want to get some input from from the uh the state commission because I would hate for us to put numbers there that the commission would say would have some kind of directive on. So why don't we go back to the commission?
>> Do we need to table it or just pull it? >> Um >> it has to be reintroduced. No, >> we introduce it. So >> So we can just >> Yeah, we Yes. >> Disregard it. Okay. With that said, >> I have a question. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Okay. Going back to 10. Um my question
has to do with housing overlay zoning with the specific density and design. Um where um do we get that specific density and design? >> I have not we've not seen you know seen
>> which one are we looking >> this is for 10 ordinance 10 Hill Street. >> Can you speak to that in terms of uh density design parking? I know the affordable housing requirements. I know what that is. But what is specific density to sign and parking?
>> All that comes from the the the planners. >> I don't know the specifics of that. I can I can ask and I can see if one, but >> are they are they on are they on Zoom? >> Find out. >> Uh is um topology on to speak to that? Perhaps
>> they could read >> when they when they're talking about specific we're talking about specific density and design and parking. >> I'm finding out if they can jump. >> Somebody just raised their hand. Somebody named Dash
>> Dash here. >> And I I don't see it in the package. In other words, what what is the specifics on density? What is the specifics on uh design and parking? >> Hello. Can you hear me?
>> It's Michael. >> Yes. >> Yeah, I can hear you. Can you speak to ordinance 10 20226 uh as it pertains to uh it says establishing of course the affordable housing overlay zoning with specific density design and parking. Can
you speak to that and uh refer us to specifics within the packet? >> Sure. So uh density is a maximum of 20 and that's at uh section 3D2. Uh the parking requirements
are even further down uh under sub F there's a minimum set aside of four units which is 20% of the project. Um the parking requirements are in subg. Um and the design standards are in subj.
Okay. And can you reference the height of the building? I know it's 20 units, but what's the height? Uh the height is uh five stories measured at 58 ft.
Okay. Five stories. I I know it's got to go to the planning board, but uh the whole idea is that we're we're talking about another fivestory building that is that is is pretty much going to be I'm sure looked at from the this uh the
stand standpoint of it being um whether or not it it is consistent with the master plan. Uh typically when we do that, don't don't we look for a community uh meeting? Um Mr. Attorney,
>> I'm not sure. Following the question. >> Well, what I'm saying is that we're talking about a fivestory building. We have the same issue right now on 827 Tene Road. uh a five-story building where we're we're asking to to uh the planning board to address things that
you know and it's coming from the council from the standpoint of saying we're sending things over to the planning board and you know we know from experience that they look at it in and filter it through the the uh the filter of is it is it um does it stand the test
of of of a the master plan and we know what the history has been with five-story buildings. So, I'm asking I'm asking you and my colleagues before we kick it over to the planning board. Perhaps we should have a discussion over the fact that we're talking about
another fivetory building in a resident residential zone. >> Deputy Mayor, I'll I'd like to make a motion and maybe you'll second it to move it to other people here. >> I know, but I'm making a motion right now. >> You know, >> I'm allowed to make a motion. Actually, Deputy Mayor Belchure was right and I
would like to make a motion to amend this to make it before stories for her point. We're going to have a discussion on that motion. Then this is not a residential zone. This is the middle of a department building. We've had numerous meetings and conversations about this. We have a dead >> It is a residential zone, Mr. Mayor. It
is a residential zone and it is a residential zone and we're asking the planning board ultimately to make a decision about a fivestory building in a residential zone. That and I I don't think I don't think it's fair that we do
that. I think we need meeting you want >> to talk about it. We need to ask ourselves the question, do we want to >> dance down that road again? >> We had I'm fine with whatever meeting you want to have. >> We have not had one public meeting on
this particular site. We have not had one public meeting. We have not had any discussion. >> We've been discussing this. >> We have discussed things. >> Can I finish or do you want to give me No, I'm I'm I'm I was speaking. So, let me finish and then you can. We have discussed this on the zoning
subcommittee. We have discussed this in closed session, but we have not discussed this in in any type of community forum. Yes, this is a small site. Yes, it's 20 stories, but how many people know that this is a fivestory
building in a residential zone? >> Thank you. You as said we didn't discuss this in a public meeting. We've been discussing this site in public meetings for months now. If you want to have a community meeting, absolutely no problem. Happy to do it. But to sit here and say we haven't discussed this at a
public meeting is wrong. But I don't care if I'm right or wrong. Let's gladly set up another community meeting. I believe we have a deadline of March 15th. We've been discussing this for months now. No one's ever thought of bringing this up and having this conversation. We've looked at maps. We've looked at pictures. Our clerk
shown 360 views, but gladly happy to have a happy to have a community meeting. As long as we all know, we're going up against the clock because now it's February 10th and now the first request from council for a community meeting is 35 days out from the deadline. Glad to have the meeting.
Please take charge of it. I'm not the one that wants to have the meeting, so I'm not I don't care when you want to have it. By all means, we welcome everyone's participation. Well, I I would like to uh amend um Councilwoman Goldberg's um motion. Well, I I would
second it, but I want to also amend it to say I let's let's look at the whole idea of a fourstory. Um the whole idea is that we're we're we're requesting the planning board to look at this being a fivetory and um we know
what that's going to render. is going to render that it's it is not in compliance with the master plan. So, I would second the motion that we look at this project. I'm 100% in favor of de of of it being developed, but I do not think that a
fivestory building is the uh right um project for this neighborhood. And I and and you know what? Truth be told, this is right right o on the corner around the corner from 54 West Anglewood. And I said the same thing about that. I'm I'm
having an issue with a fourstory four stories on 54. So why would we do a fivetory right around the corner? So it was fourstory when the developer came to the zoning subcommittee and you asked for additional affordable and he said
the only way I can do it is by putting another story on and we said okay but this was your request you were the one that asked him to add you asked to go to 20%. I was sitting here >> 20% I asked to go to but I didn't say add a story to it. >> No but they came back with us and said
we can here's the plan here's the new plan for it. It was shown to us and it was at your request that they changed it. He may go down now with affordable. I don't know that we can do that. It works with the calculations but um four stories on this because one is parking
would lead to um less affordable and that was at your request. I I would say okay even if it if we are asking for more affordable I believe that it's very important that the community know these types of
details that they don't get uh have the knowledge of this when we're voting on it. How many people in the community know that live in this community know that this is a five-story building? I don't think many do. So yes, I did 100% ask for more affordable units. I will
always ask for more affordable units, but I didn't I do not necessarily think that it has to be five stories, even if it means adjusting affordable. >> I don't know who knows the answer to this and we have to look at it, but um on on loer place, the castle, how many stories is that? That's six.
>> Losure place and 1500 is six stories. >> And Wall Raven, >> but I'm just going to make a motion to extend the meeting. >> Wait, I made a motion and I think Deputy Mayor Belchure seconded it. There's a motion on the table, Mr. Mayor. >> Yeah, you're right. We're making a motion to extend the meeting by 15 minutes. Do I have a second on that? >> All in favor?
>> I >> Thank you. Mr. Morgan, finish your sentence, please. >> I'm I'm just wondering. So, Wall Raven is across the street. So, how many stories is that? Is that four stories, five stories? >> So, are we able to change or we are scheduling the meeting or do you want to
does Mr. Ash want to speak to what our where we are right now in terms of what we committed to affordable housing? because if they lower the structure then we our count is off. So I mean this was done six months ago so I I can't speak to it. >> I always like to hear my cash talk.
>> Mr. >> I think we should vote on the motion that that's on there and then the planning board can review it and then we you know we have time in the next meeting this way we're not doing that. But I secondish I think I think we were making the same motion. It sounded like that. Can you just clarify deputy mayor Bshire? >> Yeah I did make I did second your motion.
>> Okay. All right. Do we want we want our council to want our c sorry do we want our council to appine whether or not we're allowed to change this or if we have a settlement agreement then I'm >> Mike's on yeah I would like to hear from I would suggest that we hear from from my comments because he's he's the one
that's been talking to the developers. >> Thank you. Mr. Ash, if you could please comment on this motion. >> Sure. So the settlement that uh the township agreed to is for a density of 20 overall units with the 20% set aside.
Um this is a 9,500 square ft lot. Um I do not believe it can accommodate 20 units in a four-story building. It's a it's a very small lot for this
amount of density. So are you saying if we we have to put that amount of units on whether it be a one story or a twotory or a threetory or a four story or a five story that amount of units has to be put with that affordability as per our legal set fact.
>> Yes. And it has to be a site that is economically viable for development. Um and our zoning ordinance cannot add cost prohibitive or um
requirements that would make a project financially uh infeasible. So you know this is the concept that has been um prepared by this property owner. Um I believe this
concept was reviewed in multiple iterations at multiple meetings of the zoning subcommittee. Um with requests from the town planner uh topology um the
bulk requirements um you know were reduced um and height was reduced as much as possible to allow for this building envelope that would provide a density of 20 total units. >> But the building envelope is based on
the developer's design. Just clarifying >> it's based on the developer's design and the density that we agreed to. Um so but it's an overlay so it still has to be cons I mean how the m the uh sorry the planning board still has to
send it you know review for consistency it's not consistent per w mayor belchure's point we should be sending them something that's consistent and not just doing an ordinance as we have said I think multiple times you know to an envelope by like there there's ways to
build this I I stand by the motion >> I don't know that these perhaps I mean when we talk about height I mean we we maybe have to look at possibilities like subsurface parking as a possibility to bring the height of these buildings down
because I mean it the whole idea is that you know we have a master plan that we spent 18 months working to uh you know engaging our communities and all our subject matter experts and now we're basically you know pushing pushing uh
you know projects to the planning board and saying, "Forget about that master plan that we spent 18 months working on." >> Mr. Ash, do you want to speak to the subs subsurface factor? >> Um,
adding subsurface parking to uh a property this size, I don't know, is I don't know if it's physically possible. Um, I also don't know what the subsurface conditions are. I don't know what the the water table is in this
location. Um, and you know, I can't speak for the property owner. Um, but I I think the response would be that it is an additional cost that a project this size cannot incur
when there are only 16 market rate units. I also don't know that the reasons that the planning board found the 827 road ordinance the first iteration in
December. I don't know that the the same characteristics and setback requirements that were uh deemed to be inconsistent with that first ordinance. Um whether that same zoning analysis will apply to
this site and this overlay uh ordinance. And this is a residential neighborhood, >> but this specific property >> is surrounded by multifamily buildings. Um, can I assess a general question, Mr. Ash? So, this is an overlay zone. So,
we're we're doing zoning. So, it's it's not, you know, there's no designated redeveloper. I'm just trying to make sure that I have the process right. So, it's an overlay zone. So, we're changing the zoning. So if we want to if we want to say that this zone in a residential zone so that there is not another Margaret Baker that it's four stories
and that consistency um would be there some you know it's it's it's our zoning ordinance not a redevelopment. I just want to make sure that I have it right in that regard. >> It is a zoning ordinance. Correct.
>> Okay. I just wanted to make sure. Thank you. >> Is there a vote? So there's a motion. >> I think there's a motion on the table to amend it first. >> Super on that. >> Councilwoman Goldberg. >> Yes. >> Counciloman Grant. >> Yes.
>> Councilwoman G. >> Yes. >> Councilman Catz. >> There's 51. There's 50. >> The Hill. >> The Hill. Yeah. I'm abstaining. >> Deputy Mayor Belture. >> Yes. >> Deputy Mayor Organ. No.
>> Mayor Schwarz. >> No. >> So, what's the next step? >> So, we're go back to actually voting on them or themselves. >> And now 10 is amended for four stories. >> Yeah. 10. >> Okay. All right. Thank you.
>> You had first for all of them. You need a second. >> Second. Second, >> Councilwoman Boulder. >> Wait, I just want to make sure for eight. That's the film. >> Yeah. >> Were we coming back to it or was it still still on?
>> Pulled. So, this is going to be uh 9 through4 with 10 being amended. >> Okay. So, um yes on nine, yes on 10, um yes on 11, no on 12, and no on 13.
And then I'm sorry 14 also which was the one that we did press that was ordinance seven. >> That was which >> it was ordinance seven and then it was amended. >> Um I'm upstaining on that. I don't I I don't have it in front of me. Yeah, I'm
obstaining I can't vote on that right now. >> I can't hear him. It was seven and then we amended it so it got a new number. Now it's 14. >> Councilman begott. >> Yes on nine. Yes on 10. Yes on 11. No on
12. Abstain on 13. Yes on 14. >> Council. >> Yes to all. >> Councilman Katz. >> Yes. With an abstension on 10. Deputy May Belure, >> I'm going to say yes on all, but I'm
abstaining on 12. >> Deputy Mayor Morgan, >> no on 10. Yes to the rest. >> And Mayor Schwarz, >> no on 10. Yes to the rest. Okay. Ready? >> Make a motion to adjourn.
>> So moved to all favor. >> Chairman is 11:08 p.m. >> Take care.