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Part 1 (Video ID: 9-9dYVaJlpE):
- 00:00:00: Meeting Opening, Roll Call, Announcements, and Upcoming Events
- 00:03:26: Presentation: Public Artwork and Murals in Teaneck
- 00:10:57: Comments and Support for Public Arts Presentation
- 00:12:04: Police Department Accreditation Presentation and Recognition
- 00:16:26: Commendations for Police Accreditation, Community Involvement
- 00:19:56: Recycling Program Presentation: Education, Compliance, Funding
- 00:27:52: Recycling Grant Funding: Business Recycling Tonnage Issues
- 00:33:53: Single Stream Recycling; Recycling Coach App Reminder
- 00:35:14: Township Manager Announces Upcoming Town Events
- 00:41:46: Township Attorney Discusses Resolution and Ordinance
- 00:45:27: Public Hearing: Ordinances Regarding Parking, Budget, Bonds
- 00:51:13: Alan Zone Comment: Capital Budget and Increasing Debt
- 00:54:13: Concerns About Funding Votee Park Improvements
- 00:55:14: Council Discussion and Vote on Various Ordinances
- 00:59:42: Public Good and Welfare: Open Forum for Residents
- 01:00:00: Votee Park Artificial Turf Concerns - Dylan
- 01:02:19: Votee Park Artificial Turf Concerns - Judy Green
- 01:06:08: Questions and Feedback: Recycling, Time Limits, and Meetings - Paul
- 01:08:58: Votee Park Concerns and Train Derailment - Paula
- 01:12:27: Recycling Questions & Thanks to The DPW - David
- 01:13:37: Book Sale, Waste Management & Various Projects - Sandy
- 01:15:12: Council Comments, Parks & Environmental Concerns
- 01:23:07: Vote on Votee Park improvements, Disagreements
- 01:25:20: Motion to Approve Bills List and Resolutions
- 01:33:39: 189 The Plaza Discussion: Additional Extension Requested
- 01:50:13: Introduction of New Ordinances, Meeting Adjourned


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Councilman Pagan >> here. >> Councilwoman G >> here. >> Councilman Catz, Deputy Mayor Belchure >> here, >> Deputy Mayor Oregon, Mayor Schwarz >> here. >> Adequate notice of this meeting has been provided by resolution number 300-2025

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saying a copy to the newspapers official designated for 2026 by way of resolution number 2-2026 by copying the township clerk's office and posting on the municipal building bulletin board and the mayor hereby directed this statement be included in the minutes. Good evening residents. Our mayor needs his energy

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and voice for voting and discourse later on. So, he has shed the beginning announcements over to your township clerk this evening. It is April 28th, 2026. Welcome to open session everyone. Township administration president at tonight's meeting, Miss Jaclyn Hashmat, township manager. Mr. Doug Rousion,

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township clerk. Kristen Duchia, our deputy township clerk. We have Mr. Scott Sammon, our township attorney. And of course, Mr. Ron Goodman, our volunteer cable master. For the public's information, we are currently holding a hybrid format meeting. We have people in person and on Zoom. If our Wi-Fi at the

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municipal building has an issue with the Zoom meeting drops, we will aim to retrieve the connection and continue the meeting. If you have yet to please sign up for website updates and township alerts, please go to our township website, takenj.gov. The next regular council meeting will be

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on Tuesday, May 19th, starting at 6:30 p.m. with public portion beginning at 8:00 p.m. We have another community cleanup day this weekend, May 3rd, 11:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. Please sign up on our website if you have yet to do so.

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The garden club is having another plant sale coming up at 300 Limbo Lindberg Boulevard May 1st, 2nd, and 3rd and 8th, 9th, and 10th from 10:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. Proceeds go to funding a new greenhouse. So, make sure you buy some

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plants. Friends of the library plant sale, Friends of the Library book sale is also coming up May 15, 16, 17. Members only, Thursday, May 14th. For more information, please visit the township and library websites. May 12th is the deadline to vote in the 2026

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primary election. The TX clerk clerk's office will be open until 9:00 p.m. that evening to accept any last minute registrations. Also on May 12th, 2026 at 8:00 p.m. here in council chambers, also streamed to Zoom, there will be a

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community information meeting about the address 1600 River Road in Tene, New Jersey, otherwise known as our DPW yard. Also, please don't forget on May 14th from 400 pm to 8:00 pm is going to be

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the township's super senior prom that we are hosting in conjunction with our senior and recreation center as well as age friendly teen and the bright side family. If you have yet to sign up for the super senior prom, now is the time to do so. There's still tons of room.

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$25 to reserve a spot. Council met in close session this evening to discuss personnel, contracts, legal issues and or opinions regarding any items on the open session agenda, litigation updates, and Oprah. That is

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all of our beginning announcements. >> You did a good job. Just >> a little more practice. Just watch me. I'll I'll >> Okay, with that, uh let's head to the um regular session of the council and we have presentations. We have three presentations tonight. The first being the Tene Police Department

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accreditation. Chief. Yes. >> Oh, I apologies. >> Thank you, mayor and council. Appreciate it. >> Good evening. Today we will be presenting our idea about bringing more public artwork into Tene with the main

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focus on murals. Murals are a powerful way to transform public spaces, tell stories, and represent the people in our community. Our goal is to show how mural based artwork can make our town more connected, welcoming, and visually pleasing.

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[clears throat] We have pres You got it. All right. So, as you may know, Tene is known for being a very inclusive and diverse town, and people from many different areas and backgrounds live here and share the same community. And our town values respect,

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involvement, and pride, especially in public spaces. And because of these values are important to us, our environment should reflect them. And we feel that murals are a strong and visible way to show who we are as a community. And we can bring people

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together through shared public artwork. So also um yeah aligning with our town goals. So this idea directly aligns with TK's official master plan. Um on pages 86 and 87, the plan specifically encourages murals and street art in public spaces. Um especially in business

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districts. It also promotes art and culture as part of community identity. Um and using artwork to reflect diversity. The plan highlights as adding visual programming and making public spaces more engaging. Um, and these points listed in the plan show that

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murals are not just allowed, but they're also encouraged um, as part of TX future development. Um, this means our proposal is already supported by the town's official goals. And here are the references on the master plan.

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Um, TX's proud history. So, Tene has an important history when it comes to diversity and inclusion. Um, it was the first town in the United States to voluntarily um, integrate its public schools. Yeah. [laughter] Um, this shows that um, Tene has long

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been a leader in equality and bringing people together. Because of our history, our public spaces um, should reflect those values. Murals can help show our diversity in a unified and positive way while also educating people about our past and this is what we already have. So um

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Tene is not new to public artwork and we have numerous art all around the township and already seen successful murals. Um for example the Black Lives Matter mural on Palisades Avenue um near Volti Park which also was created with

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community involvement. Uh there are also equal um art projects at Tene Creek Conversary where artwork connects nature, education, and community. These examples show um that murals and public artwork already work in Tene and that

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people are willing to support them. Proposed locations. So one of the main um locations that has already been been discussed with the board was um the Bansha area at Vot Park. The board sees this as a as a strong and central location for artwork because it it's

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highly visible and um seen by many people and it already has had art on it before. Um so this makes it a great place to start and it can be considered as a number one priority. In addition to that, um, other places where murals could work well include Cedar Lane, where artwork could help

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attract more people and support businesses as well as schools, youth places, and certain alleyways or highways, underpasses like Route 4 on Palisades. Um, and these additional locations are suggestions where murals could also have a positive impact in our town.

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And now I'll send it to um, Hie so she can discuss the process of how we're willing to make this happen. Okay. So, the first step would obviously be the approval of it and the location. That's how we would base a lot of the things. Um, first we would launch a

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digital art submission contest. So, we would reach out to local art clubs, especially at Tina High School. And, um, we would give them kind of a strict guideline. It would be like a limited color palette. It needs to be achievable on the mural. So, it would have to be a sculptable design and appropriate/public

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friendly. Um, and then from those submissions, we would have it open for x amount of weeks and then youth advisory board will review and pick the top three. We'll communicate the top three with you and decide from there. Um, and then whoever the winner is, we'll

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contact them and hopefully they are um the local art club is willing to volunteer as well and then youth advisory board will help paint the actual mural. Um it would the winner would help sketch it first and then we'll paint it similar to the concrete

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stadium at Tina High School's field. People help paint that as well and uh repaint it recently. Um and then for materials, uh certain things like wall primer, mural paint, brushes, like painters tape will be needed, but those stuff is very based on the location and

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what gets approved based on the size of the location and how many colors. So the cost and the amount of materials is dependent on that. So we don't have the specifics on that, but we will be able to estimate it once we get the specific location. >> In conclusion, mural based artwork can

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bring new life into our town. It can celebrate our culture, diversity, and history while making public spaces more welcoming and interesting. It could bring people together, attract more visitors to business areas, involve young people, and support local artists. Overall, adding more murals can

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strengthen our community, and make Tene an even better place to live. >> Okay, thank you guys. Now, if I'm correct, you're looking for nodding heads to start your process. Then you'll bring it back here as you said. Okay. not against and if I could say

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something, Mr. Mayor, if I could say something really quick, I think this is a wonderful idea. Public art inspires so many people. I organized and raised all the money for the Caes mural about four or five years ago at the Roa Center. So, if there's anything I could do to help you guys raise money or organize, please don't hesitate to reach out. I also know

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a bunch of mural artists in Jersey City and Brooklyn. Now, these guys usually charge, but if it's for kids, hopefully they'll, you know, charge a little less or we just do it community oriented altogether. But kudos. This is a wonderful idea. Thank you. >> Excellent.

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>> I I also just want to um add to that. Thank you so much for this. I think that we have such not only a rich history of diversity but a rich history of arts with within our town. So kudos to all of you for for coming up with >> if I were just to point out one more

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thing um just to give credits to Musa because he mainly spearheaded this. So that's why he kind of took over more of the presentation. >> Did you read the master plan? >> Yeah. Excellent. Thank you guys. Okay. Uh, police department. Did you promise anybody else before them? Oh, we're good. Sure.

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Travon's good. We're good. Okay. >> Second. All right. Good evening, Mayor, Council, Manager, uh, members of the community. Thank you for having me here tonight. Uh it is an honor to stand before you tonight as we accept our accreditation certificate marking our department's

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fifth consecutive accreditation cycle. Achieving accreditation is not easy. Maintaining it over five consecutive cycles is even more challenging. It involves years of preparation, detailed documentation, and a departmentwide commitment to meeting hundreds of standards. Every member of the agency

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plays a role in that effort from command staff to patrol officers, supervisors, and civilian personnel. I would like to recognize the individual who has led this effort for our most recent cycle, Sergeant Michael Sun. His direction, organization, and attention to detail have been

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instrumental in guiding us through this rigorous process. Accreditation requires countless hours of work behind the scenes, and his leadership ensured that we not only met the standards, but upheld the level of professionalism and community the community expects. I would also like to acknowledge the accreditation managers who came before

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him. This achievement is not only the result of one cycle or one person. It is the product of years of sustained effort by those who built and maintained the program over time. Their work laid the foundation that allows us to stand here today. This recognition belongs to the entire department and reflects a shared

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commitment to excellence in policing. We are proud of this accomplishment. But more importantly, we remain committed to continuing this work in the years ahead. I would like to ask uh Director Harry Delgado of the New Jersey State Association of Chiefs of Police uh in

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charge of the accreditation process if you could come up please. So good evening everyone. I think the chief pretty much you know went quickly over the fact that they've uh uh they've actually gone through five cycles for accreditation. But just to add context to what it said, let me just share with

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you that out of all the agencies that would be eligible to uh participate in our program, only about 54% of all of them are made. And I'm talking about prosecutor's office, I'm talking about, yeah, you know, colleges and universities, anyone that has a legitimate police department would be

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eligible to apply. So out of those 54%. Those that actually make it through reacredititation, the group drops to about 32%. Second reacredititation, 12%. Third reacreditation 8%. Fourth reacreditation 6%. When you get to that

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level of fifth reacreditation, you fall into a very elite of law enforcement agencies of less than 3.6%. So that's incredible. That's remarkable and they deserve recognition for that. So if you uh indulge me for two two minutes, I'd like to share with you the significance of the achievement. So the

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Tina Police Department has once again made a commitment to adhering to best practices at the state and national level in a highly regarded statewide law enforcement accreditation program. This program administered to the New Jersey State Association of Chiefs of Police and the New Jersey Law Enforcement Accreditation Commission has helped to

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transparently demonstrate the professionalism, transparency, and preparness of state's law enforcement agencies in the state's public safety system. Now accreditation is more than a professional distinction. It is a strategic investment in organizational excellence. It positions law enforcement

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agencies to operate at the highest levels professionalism while enhancing public trust, reducing risk and promoting long-term operational success. accreditation status uh represents a significant professional achievement and this prestigious fifth reacreditation I

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had to emphasize the fact that it's fifth reacreditation demonstrates Chief Andrew Mcgur's firm commitment to state and national standards and the continued expectations of for quality professional and ethical policing of the tene police department. So it is our opinion that

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the tin police department is a highly professional and committed agency which exemplifies all of the tenants of law enforcement accreditation at the state and national level. So, it is indeed my honor here tonight on behalf of the New Jersey State Association of Chiefs of Police Police in the New Jersey Law Enforcement Commission to congratulate

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Chief Andrew McGurb, uh, Deputy Chief, uh, Seth Creel, uh, Sergeant Michael Sunga, the accreditation manager, the members of the Tina Police Department, the council, the mayor, the mayor, the council, and those citizens that they so proudly serve for having achieved their fifth reacreditation, which actually

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puts him in a very elite group of law enforcement agency in the state of New Jersey. To all indeed, congratulations. Wait, if if I could say something really quickly. Um, this is a big deal. Congratulations. It requires a lot of hard work. And I say that because I remember a number of years ago at my day

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job, I got in trouble because one of the county agencies, it might have even been the jail lost its accreditation. And I remember saying, "How do you let that happen to the bosses there? That would never happen in Tene." And silence cuz you know, I brag about how wonderful you guys are. I brag about how wonderful our whole town is. And they did not like

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that. and they were able to get that accreditation again, but then they lost the accreditation for the zoo and totally different topic. But I'm like, how do you let that happen? So kudos because it's a lot of hard work and and it takes commitment every day and effort. So thank you. Congratulations.

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>> Thank you. >> Yeah, we got new cars for the playing stat because of this. Everyone gets a new car, right? >> Yeah. Oh, we got them ready, actually. Yeah. Can we all say something? Mr. Where's Mr. Mayor? Should we just jump in? Um, I just wanted to say first of all, congratulations to our police

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department. This is amazing. And it's not I mean it really is real. I I see you all everywhere whether it's attending ABCR meetings. I went to my son's school and there I saw our deputy chief volunteering. We volunteered together. I mean you are in the

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community. We see you. Our kids see you. Our residents see you. And this I mean just speaks volumes to your commitment to our town. And I'm just so grateful for all of you. And you have the trust and love of the community and you show it every day. And I just want to say congratulation. you earned it and I'm

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I'm just so grateful for all of you. >> Um we're always so proud of you and um I hope it shows in us showing you giving you our support. Um but I didn't realize what a big deal this was even after working with you for so long. So congratulations. Is there um a wall of

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fame that this fifth one is going to go up on that we can come visit? It's going to go in the lobby. Okay, we'll come take a look. something more. >> Oh, don't mess it up. But really, congratulations and thank you for this for making us so proud.

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>> Awesome. Reco Thank you for all that you do our community. Uh it's guys are wonderful in terms of being able to be there in in every aspect of what we look to and accreditation is is very important like uh Councilman Pagan says

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because without it without the necessary training um and and uh uh that you you acquire in in terms of what you do um we wouldn't have such um a stellar uh police force. So thank you for your your efforts. I'm just want to say congratulations and

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this is just what everyone else said. This is a very big I can't see you. Sorry. This is a very big deal and you should all be very proud of yourselves and and thank you for for taking the initiative on this. This is very something everyone in the town should be proud of for all of us. Thank you. >> Excellent. Okay, Jackie, anything else?

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Thank you very much for working with them on the accreditation. I'm sure you had something to do with it. Great job as always. And now we'll go into something even more interesting than guns and police recycling. >> Thank you, Chief. >> You want to introduce Tron? I'll introduce

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>> gonna start. >> I'm going to start and gonna um Good evening, mayor and council and township residents. Thank you for your patience as we worked through this recycling um work through pres um presenting this recycling presentation before you. As

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you may know, we had a combination of winter storm disruptions and scheduling challenges that delayed our discussion, but we felt it was important to have our DPW director here with us, Travon Romeo, who got us through a very tricky winter with a lot of snowstorms. So, we are

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officially in spring. So, he is here with us tonight um while we present our recycling presentation and he'll be available to answer some uh direct questions after we finish. Recycling is an important part of how we manage our waist stream, meet state

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requirements, and remain environmentally responsible as a community. Over the past several weeks, Travon and I have worked diligently to compile as much guidance, data, and operational information as possible so that we can pro provide a clear understanding of where we are today, where we can make

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some improvements, and what tools we need moving forward to strengthen our recycling efforts. Tonight's presentation is about education and identifying opportunities to do better. Because the more informed we are as a community, the better positioned we are to improve participation, reduce

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contamination, and maximize the benefits of our recycling program and tonnage grant returns. That being said, I will start our presentation. An overview for our presentation um is to provide our residents with a

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comprehensive overview of the following. What is recycling? Resident responsibility, state requirements, tonnage grant information, and best practices. Next slide. New Jersey mandatory recycling law. In

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1987, New Jersey is the first state to initiate mandatory statewide recycling. It requires source separation of recyclables and municipal ordinances are required. Next slide. Municipal responsibilities

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are to adopt a recycling ordinance, provide a collection system, appoint a recycling coordinator, and submit an annual tonnage report to NJD. Goals of New Jersey recycling law is to reduce landfill waste, conserve natural

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resources, encourage sustainability, and promote recycling markets. Currently, Tene um collects single stream recycling curbside. All [clears throat] recyclable materials are collected in one truck.

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Enforcement and compliance. Potential fines are in place for non-compliance and accurate reporting is required for grant eligibility. The New Jersey Recycling and Enhancement Act. This landmark piece of legislation

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reestablishes a source of funding for recycling in New Jersey through a $3 per ton tax on solid waste accepted for disposal or transfer at in-state solid waste facilities. Next slide. How is recycling tonnage grant funded to

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Tene? It is funded by $3 per ton search charge on solid waste disposal. funds are returned to the municipality and it encourages improved recycling performance in each municipality. How the recycling tonnage grant works,

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it's based on the total reported recycling tonnage. The higher the tonnage, the higher grant return. Accurate reporting is critical. This slide shows you our annual grant funding report over the last 5 years. What's important to note here is that

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recycling tonnage grant funding is typically received three years after the recycling year reported. State tonnage grant funding. State funds returned to the municipality are based on recycling performance, supports local recycling improvements, determines the

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grant amount, and that reflects community participation and impacts long-term funding. Why do the awards vary? Different towns have different population size, participation rates, material volumes that are collected, and reporting

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accuracy. What qualifies for the recycling tonnage grant? Recycling containers and equipment, public education programs, household hazardous waste events, and leaf composting programs.

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What goes in your recycling bin? plastics number one, number two, number five, glass bottles and jars, metal cans, paper and cardboard. Items that are not collected curbside in TAC are plastic bags, batteries and

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electronics, food soiled materials, yard waste, which is um has separate collection dates. What is not recyclable? styrofoam containers, plastic bags, ceramics, and contaminated food packaging.

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Common recycling mistakes, not rinsing containers, bagging recyclables in plastic bags, including nonrecyclables, and mixing yard waste with your recycling. Quick recycling rules of thumb: rinse,

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empty, clean. Keep recyclables loose. Flatten your cardboard and when in doubt, throw it out. Yard waste separation. Leaves and brush collected separately. Do not mix with trash or recycling and it supports

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composting and grant reporting. Why does recycling matter? It reduces landfill disposal disposal costs, improves environmental health, increases state grant funding, and supports community sustainability.

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how we can improve recycling in Tene. We can have additional uh public education programs, improve our signage and communication to the public, enhance our reporting accuracy, and prom promote community participation.

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Practical takeaways for officials. Ensuring accurate reporting. Promote outreach initiatives and use grant grants strategically. For resident curbside pickup, clean your containers thoroughly, separate your

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materials properly, and follow the recycling collection calendar for your pickup zone where the link is actually attached here. Um, we will post this on our website for easy reference. Some best practices for you at home are to create a recycling station, teach

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household rules to family members, make it fun for children, um, and teach them about recycling and cleaning their recyclables, check recycling symbols, avoid wish cycling, and when in doubt, throw it out. Now, I'd like to invite our DPW

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director, Trarevon Romeo, to the podium in case anyone has any questions, whether from from the audience or from council. Um, we will be having we will post this presentation on our website for reference and in addition we have a flyer on the table for you to pick up

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that gives you some tips about recycling in the future which we also will post to our website and social media. Travon, did you want to add anything? >> No, I think you pretty much covered everything. >> Uh, can I ask a question? Uh a couple months ago we had uh introduced or tried

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to introduce an ordinance pretty much based on hacken sack where to save time for the DPW right now to get the uh tonnage the recycling information for businesses uh Mike Sarah had informed us that you guys were calling. Um this was basically changing it to what Hackinack

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is doing. Uh save you guys time and mail the requested form so that way we could increase our tonnage grant for the funding. Um I don't know what happened to the ordinance. I know it was introduced and then it kind of disappeared. Um I don't know if it I mean that would save you guys time for

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sure. Um right now my [clears throat] understanding is you guys were are calling and hoping somebody answers the phone but to the manager's point this could increase funding. So I don't know if council wants to revisit it. I would fully support that to increase funding and it's pretty

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much done was done in Hackinack. Correct. >> Yeah. Okay. I don't know if anybody wants to revisit that but I would fully support that. >> So um in Hackinack um so if we were to do it in Teneck

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um it's very difficult to do it because we have a lot of small um like micro businesses in Hackinack. have like big um ID staples um like the Riverside Mall and um other big um quick stores that

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generate enough um recyclable material to they have like these compactors that compact cardboard and um and plastic. So they have like a a a proper tonnage um reporting um system because they like

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IWS they come and they pick up um a a a complete um container full of cardboard. In Tene we have a bunch of small businesses and most of them have like three art containers and um they um their contractors um pick up at multiple

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locations. So it's difficult for any one um store to know exactly how much they generate. >> So >> on that that wasn't so what my understanding was and Jackie correct me if I'm wrong it was having the the form

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go out to the businesses the businesses would give I guess you guys the authority to basically get the tonnage from their recycling charact uh carriers for that exact reason. We weren't putting any burden on them except for fill a form to send back to the DPW if I recall. >> So, right.

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>> So, we currently we currently at the end of the year we we get a report from the uh from the end um um gen the end source. So like if they all go to um Atlantic Coast at the end of the year

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they say um like Bulldo or IWS for that year um delivered 20 tons of cardboard or whatever from the businesses. Um so it is like I said it's difficult for like um

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there's no law requiring a business to weigh how much um recyclables they sent to the um to the facility for recycling. So um and it will be very difficult for each um business to to um so a truck

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would have to let's say to come to um ABC um store pick up recycling there go to the recycling um center have it weigh then come back and do another store. So they pick up at multiple stores in T-neck and

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when they go to the recycling center they will ask them where this um recyclables was generated. They say T-C and we will have report from waste waste management um IWS or whoever picks up

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their recyclables. they will have um the amount of recyclables they took for that for that year and we will get that report from the facility. >> So you're saying that we get credit for an aggregate amount of merchants from

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>> not a specific >> correct. So you would have um like um like a Marriott they would have their own um they would generate um a report for themselves. um because they will have um a compactor there. Um like who

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hospital, same thing. But like big businesses that generate a lot of um um recyclables, they would they would normally have that. So in this town we maybe have like four or five um businesses that they we get um reporting

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from them but micro businesses it it's not um possible for us to um >> so from what I remember and I don't have my notes on me for this meeting but it was that at the time it was Mike Sariki and I don't know who's doing that now

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but it was literally he had to call the businesses to get it every month which was a huge waste of like your guys' is valuable time. So instead of doing that, we were looking to see what Hackinack did and it was send a letter instead of a phone call to give you guys a time to

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get that cuz we're we were not getting the full report is what Micah was saying. >> Um >> my but I know Jackie you were there for that. >> I know that they do line if whatever that was. >> Yes, the the business thing I can look into it with Siobhan a little further with the Hackinack businesses and what

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letter it was. I know Mike Stormbeckian did mention how they um how they did it um a little differently. I don't know if it would work the same here. I can definitely look and to see if we can monitor it the same. >> Thank you. And if you can place this presentation, this definitely was informative and I know we had spoken earlier. If you could please place that

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online online, that'd be great. Absolutely. Especially with the single stream and whatnot. Okay. >> Um I also mayor, I just would like um Trarevon to mention about us doing single stream recycling. Um, we did have a conversation that we are going since we are going to keep moving forward with single stream. We are going to only be

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offering the yellow containers moving forward and residents will be allowed to put everything in one container versus yellow and blue. So you can put them since they are picked up into one truck. >> That's the most I think we can adjourn the meeting once everyone hears that that's all they want to hear. Single stream only. Please email us about

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something else now because that was the biggest question in >> Tene. >> So okay, excellent. If we could play after >> thing just want to remind everyone there's the recycling coach app on the NJD website that you can all download for free and get the calendar invite for your recycling zone and what you can and

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can't recycle and it's free. >> We're we're going to do questions later. We're going to move on with the meeting. Um okay. >> What about >> you can speak to I'm sorry if you're not you can speak with him outside. We have a it's not a Q&A. It's a council meeting. We have bonds to discuss. We

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have ordinance to discuss. He'll be out there if you'd like to talk to him, but we're not going to do a Q&A with the public in Zoom and whatnot in the middle of the meeting. So, any council members like to address? >> Yeah, I I'd like to say a couple quick things. I I first of all, I want to thank M. >> We're still talking to him right now.

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That's >> okay. All right. It's Thank you, Javon, for your presentation and and u to the um manager about it. I I've learned from your discussion with us in close session that there are things that residents can do. Um that I I I'm thankful that it's

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in the report that shows I did not know that putting out cardboard in the rain was problematic until you explain that. So, I think it's very important that we do post this presentation because things like that and rinsing the plastic plastic bottles and things like that is

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important because it helps us in our tonnage as it pertains to being able to recoup money from from these uh recyclables. So, thank you for your presentation. >> Thank you. >> Excellent, Tron. Thank you very much

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>> for everything and for the winter. >> We Paul Paul, I'm running the meeting. We don't need all we don't we need comments on everything part of the meeting. If you want to thank him, you can go outside and thank him as well. Thank you very much, Siobhan. Thank your team. We appreciate it. Okay, on to the rest of the meeting. Um, miscellaneous,

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anyone, old business, new business, communications, committee reports by council leazison, council items, and then back to you, Mr. Manager. Township manager report.

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>> That's quick. Okay, good evening again. Um, I have some duplicate announcements, but I since they are important important and um, coming up soon, I will um, announce some of these again about our townwide cleanup day, which is coming up on May

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3rd from 11:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. Um, sign up and additional details are posted for those interested. Uh friendly reminder that you can still um enter any potholes um if you'd like to report them on our website through or through our SDL portal. Um we are filling them daily

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by our DPW workers. Don't forget that the registration is now open for the Tene community pool. So those of you that are um interested in joining for a second season, please reach out to our recreation department. The friends of the Tene Public Library

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are hosting a book sale in May. Um, so please refer to the flyer for the dates that apply. The garden club's annual plant sale scheduled for May 1st um through May 3rd and May 8th through May 10th at 300 Lindberg Boulevard. Um, get

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all of your Mother's Day plants um as soon as possible. Uh, TX Farmers Market is celebrating 30 years and will be returning Thursday starting in May from 12 to 6:00 p.m. at Garris and Beverly. The 2025 road resurfacing list of

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streets is now posted on our website under our capital projects page. We are currently in the design phase and we're looking forward to paving those additional roads as soon as possible. Uh walk our walk to wellness program is doing really well. The final 5K event

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will be held on May 17th. In addition to the Sunday meetups, they we also have participants that have been able to join in some guided warm-up classes and virtual well virtual wellness classes as well. Um a community meeting is scheduled for May 12th at 8:00 p.m. to

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discuss 1600 River Road redevelopment. We want to hear from all of you to see what you would like to see in that space and we are also welcoming any developers that are interested to join. Our super senior prom is scheduled for May 14th from 4 to 8 at the Glen Point Marriott.

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As you heard Doug mentioned, it's $25 per person uh for an evening of dinner, dancing, and a great time with friends. Also, I'd like to mention this week if you're looking to um um to get some prom attire, there is a giveaway at 1425 Tene

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Road. Age Friendly Tene and the Never Alone Again Resource Center are sponsoring this giveaway this week um from 12:00 to 4 PM now through Friday. So please, if you'd like more information, contact our recreation department. A poetry reading and open

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mic events are scheduled for May 17th and May 31st um in the children's reading garden right outside here at the Tene Library. All are welcome. Our Memorial Day day ceremony will take place on May 25th at 11:00 a.m. on the

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green. Information will be posted on our website as soon as possible. Please be advised that the new ebike and e scooter laws are in effect as of July 1st. Uh our police department has posted a detailed flyer that I encourage all

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Tene residents to view and become familiar with. We will be enforcing this uh law townshipwide as of July 1. Phelps Park Splash Pad ribbon cutting ceremony is scheduled for May 19th at 5:30 p.m. All are welcome to join us.

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Also, our Fourth of July parade and celebration of the 250th anniversary of America is scheduled on the legal holiday which is Friday, July 3rd. We look forward to the celebration and we will be posting more details.

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for some project updates. Our 2024 road resurfacing project continues and will be completed no later than May 2026. Turune Park Safety Surface, the contractor is scheduled to be on site the beginning um the within the first

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two weeks of May. Brooks Park exercise station. The construction is complete and the final inspections are scheduled this week. The restroom at Brooks Park, the shop drawings are in progress and the building has a lead time of 3 to four months. The utility work is being

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completed in the meantime. Um Phelps Park splash pad, we are finalizing the bench installations the beginning of May and the water testing will be completed this upcoming week. Built-in street, Livingston Place, and Clinton Place improvements. Construction

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is scheduled to begin in May. The Griggs, Van Beern, and Heric Avenue improvements. The construction is also scheduled for May. Palisades A, West Triion, and Goway Place improvements. The project was completed last week, so we are closing out that project. Lastly,

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I am pleased to report that the 2022 sewer billing is scheduled to go out before the end of this week. Thank you to our CFO, Issa Abasi, the tax collector's office, and also our IT director who have been very focused on this efforts to get this done before our

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tax time starting May 1st. That's all I have for you tonight, Mayor. >> Thank you very much, Mrs. Manager. Uh, Mr. Attorney, do you have anything? >> I do, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. Two things I want to address tonight. There's a resolution on the agenda, resolution 185-2026.

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This is a an extension of the um of one year for the uh to of time for 189 the plaza negotiate terms for an additional uh redevelopment agreement uh which is based on the redevelopers request because they are in the process of

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selling the um uh selling the project and they want additional time to conduct that to do that sale and then the new owner can come to us and try to negotiate with us. And so that request is um resolutions on the agenda. The second thing I want to address is there

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is an ordinance that is uh up for for introduction uh related to 1387 uh Hill Street that I wanted to just give a little of an explanation on. Doug, if you can put the uh picture up on the screen that the one I sent you. So uh as

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the council is aware during the u affordable housing uh process that we went through uh month is it la last month in the preceding months uh one of the things that the council did was they amended the ordinance related to 1387 to

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reduce the um uh reduce the number of floors from five floors to four floors. Uh the developer they'll say initially was not happy about that. they, you know, they they had a plan in mind that that uh involved going to five stories. Um once the council adopted this though,

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they had to work to see if they could provide the same number of affordable units uh within a shorter uh within a shorter uh project. They came up with a uh revised concept plans uh that would allow them to do so. it. They're uh what

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one of the things that they've required or one of the things they asked us to do to make it feasible for them to do it is they wanted they had to they have to expand the size of the be the overall footprint of the building. Uh and so the picture that was showing up on the screen is something that was provided to

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us. Um what what they're essentially doing is they are moving uh the the property I should say moving they are expanding the property back uh uh on the on the right side of the screen. You can see I'm sorry on the left side of the screen is Hill is would be Hill Street

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and on the far right side of of the screen uh is where they want to expand the the property back closer to the property line. They are requesting uh two adjustments to the uh to the ordinance. The first is on the top right

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uh part of the um the picture they want they because they're moving it back. They need to get within five feet uh of the of the property line at the very top. And so they're asking for a reduced uh se u setback there. Um the rest of the setbacks are not are not changing

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other than that one that allows them to get closer uh to the back uh of the property. This is again this is that that lot line is against other um multi um multif family apartments behind

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it. Not it's not encroaching anymore on any uh any single family housing. The second thing that they asked is uh to increase the lot coverage size to 70%. Um it's a you know relatively small uh adjustment here that allows them to

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comply with the council's um requirement of that they do this within four stories. Uh and so uh we asking the the council to consider that on tonight for introduction. Um and that's I think all I have for tonight, Mr. Mayor.

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>> Thank you very much clerk. Um on to our next um >> can I ask a question of our attorney on on this particular site plan these two adjustments um the the the top right corner um this is a reduction um to 5T

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and what was it originally where is where's it coming from? >> Uh I believe it was 1050 Hold on one second here. Hold on one moment. I don't have it in mind. No, it's I believe I believe it was 10. I was coming back from 10.

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>> Okay. The other question I have is on the opposite side on that property line. What is what is that property? >> The what you mean where it's >> what is the neighboring property? >> It's so it's a multi multif family apartment building. >> It's a multif family um apartment building. So it's not a single family.

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>> That's correct. >> It is not a single family. >> Yeah. The only the only single family that's immediately adjacent to this is to the south on the on the bottom the bottom line is on the uh on the bottom left of that there's a single would be a single family. Uh but this does not get

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any closer than what they had originally proposed. >> So nothing else changes >> regarding um setbacks >> that's on the other side. >> They're just they're just they're just extending the building going back further on the lot. >> And then the 70% though went from what

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to 70%. believe it was 65% before and now it's going to uh uh to 70%. For the building coverage. >> So this this is as a result of reducing the height of the building to be in

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compliance with the master plan. >> That's exactly. So they yes they they would be in compliance with the master plan in compliance with um and what and what with what with what the planning board has deemed to be consistent uh and um would allow them to provide all the same number of affordable units. >> Thank you.

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>> Thank you. >> Can I just ask one more question um for this uh since the there's a change in was this the the residents that are directly impacted were this was sent out to them that there's an ordinance for introduction for tonight? uh was sent out to the Navy >> like a notice to them

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>> not for introduction. Uh I believe that goes out before uh I believe that goes out before the before adoption. The next obviously it's got to go to the planning board uh for the consistency review. Then it'll go come back to the council for adoption and that's as part of that is when we send out the notice. >> Residents that are impacted by this

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don't know yet. >> I don't know the answer to that question. >> Got it. Thank you. >> Um next. Yes, Daniel. >> I have a qu I have a question for the township manager. um the with the uh ebike um laws now being enforced, can

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we put that on the agenda for with the board of ed to talk about how we're going to inform our students who ride ebikes to school? And then also um do we know how it's going to be enforced? >> Um yeah, actually the flyer that the police department put out has all the details of what you need, what you what

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you have to do. I'll actually ask them to repost it and us actually post it to our social media because there's a lot of details on what what you need like your age, what you need to get from DMV, the insurance, all of that. So, I'll add that on. I'll have Dr. Spencer actually maybe hand it out and I'll have community policing also piggyback on

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that. >> Right. But do can we find out like how is it going to be so if a kid's on their way to school in the morning? How will they be pulled? Like how will it be enforced in actuality? cuz the last thing I think any parent wants is their kid being pulled over an ebike as they're trying to get to school.

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>> I will definitely I'll check with Chief McGer and I'll get back to everyone. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Okay, Mr. Clerk, we are up to the or um hearing right now. Sorry, I apologize. The public hearing and adoption of ordinances. Please read

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the ordinances in question and then we'll open it up for the hearing. We have five tonight. We have five tonight. We have a few. Mayor, first up, we have ordinance number 24-2026 amending section 36-11.2

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of chapter 36 Township Code adding a restricted on street parking space for handicap parking at 71 Grayson Place. We have ordinance number 26-2026 amending the township code to revise no parking restrictions on a portion Alisade Avenue. Ordinance number 27-2026

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for a year 2026 an authorization to exceed the municipal budget cost of living allowance and to establish a cap bank. Ordinance number 28-2026, a bond ordinance providing for various 2026 capital improvements buy and in the township of Tina in the county of Bergy

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of New Jersey appropriating $10,812,000 therefore and author authorizing the issuance of 8,350,900 bonds or notes to the township to finance part of the cost thereof. Last but not least, we have ordinance number 29-2026, another bond ordinance vying

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for various improvements and upgrades to Vote Park in the township of Tina Act in the county of Bergen State, New Jersey, appropriating $2 million therefore and authorizing the issuance of $1,200,000 in bonds or notes to the township to finance part of the cost thereof. >> Thank you, Mr. Clerk. At this time, is

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there anyone in the audience that wants to testify in this hearing on those ordinances only? Councilman Zone. >> Uh Alan Zone standing at a podium that seems to be a little bit further back than usual. Uh speaking about ordinances

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28 and 29 uh allocating bonds. Uh historically, again, we have a six-year budget, a six-year capital budget that is baked into uh the budget, uh the budget book, and the budget that's going to be passed, and that includes for those six years $106 million in bond

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funding. Uh $12 million of that is this year. Uh some portion of that, again, 29, will be covered by most uh revenues, but it's basically going to use up most of available most funding. Um the amount of debt and the cost of paying off that

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debt has been growing uh consistently for the past several years. There are all sorts [snorts] of wonderful things and I it's not my job to pick out which ones we should do and shouldn't do. That's your job. There's a six-year capital budget and the decisions that

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are made this year impact what could be done in future years. It impacts what's available to fund other projects. And as debt has grown, we're not analyzing that information. I've heard no discussion from this council about that six-year capital budget and the question of how

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are we going to cover that $16 million in total expenditures between this year and what's estimated for the next 5 years. Consistently over the past several years, I've seen things that are always next year. They're always pushed off. They're always happening in the

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following year. One of the things that's been happening most commonly has been DPW equipment. Uh DPW equipment has been allowed to age and whether we're moving or staying put, uh the ability of the DPW to serve the township and its residents, to plow the streets, to

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remove the leaves has been impacted uh by the lack of equipment. Uh the police department building headquarters is challenging. The fire the fire headquarters is challenging. Just look at the floor below us. Uh there has been

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money allocated to fix uh that floor and other parts of of this increasingly uh falling apart building. How are those things going to be funded? And the only way to do that is not to ask the question, what do residents want or not want, but it's to do the due diligence

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of going through that six-year budget of asking the question, what should we be doing now? And what how much can we afford to pay? How will future years be impacted by that increasing interest rates and increasing payments which is covering a larger and larger percentage?

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Uh roughly 10 only approaching 10% of the budget is now going to pay debt and interest. Uh that money is only going to go up as the amount of debt outstanding increases. So going forward again looking at this budget looking at this

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capital expenditures and these bonds the question of is this council looking through those details is the fundamental question and I I hope that we'll get an answer again looking back at our previous expenditures did those work and looking ahead. Thank you very much. >> Thank you Councilman Sone. Um, anyone

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else on these items only? A quick question on the last part on uh 2920 26 um for this $2 million in bonds. Would that be in place of using most

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money for the vote team middlefield? That's my question. Or would it be in addition to >> this is a hand we're regarding the handicap the handicap playground this matter. >> So it doesn't involve >> no the improvement later in the meeting. Okay. While you're [clears throat] we talk about that afterwards. >> Thank you.

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>> Thank you. Okay. With that being said, anyone else in the room on these matters only hearing see no other hands? No. Anyone on Zoom? Sorry. This meet hearing is now closed. Um any comments before we go to roll call? >> Yeah, I just wanted to say one thing if

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it's okay. Um so I just want to say uh I on 20 28 the full bond despite my feelings on the lack of transparency around the swim club. I will be voting yes on that. I am voting no on 2020 29 the the vote and I

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want to say why. That's $2 million that we had a better way to fund. I did the analysis that Councilman S said is lacking. Ordinance 312026 uh would have used that was that didn't get passed would have used $531,000 in

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excess bond uh excess capital from an old uh capital ordinance sitting in our improvement fund today. Money that taxpayers have already paid for. People are hurting. Their insurance has gone up. Groceries have gone up. Gas has gone up. We are now putting that debt on

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them. $1.2 2 million of new debt plus interest for 10 years for for short-term plus 20 years on long-term once it's it's there. We're literally gambling their money with the bond market when there was a better way to fund this. So,

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I fully support the projects, but I do not fund passing this debt along to the next two decades, three decades of taxpayers, and that's why I'm voting no on it. >> Thank you very much. I know we discussed that last meeting. I appreciate your presentation then and I believe the vote was taken to move forward with 29 and

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not with 31. Um, Deputy Mayor. >> Yeah. I just have a a point that I wanted to make and uh response to um uh Councilman Song that I I I do feel that we we definitely have um and we saw this during the the the winter um issues with

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capital equipment. We've had major um issues with trucks breaking down and so forth. I think it's very very important that we do address the six-year budget. I think we have to really do an in-depth analysis on capital equipment and uh I think that you know that to some degree

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the chickens are coming home to roost when it comes to many years of a 0% increase of a budget. So that when you have a 0% increase of a budget over many many years, there's little money that goes set aside for capital improvement. So, uh, I think it's it's a lessons

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learned and it's it's something that we can file away under, you know, best practices going forward not to do that again. >> Just a piece of information, the new trucks for the DPW are in this capital budget. Um, and by next year, by the time they come in, hopefully there will

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be a new DPW to house them so that they're not exposed to the elements. >> Thank you very much. Anybody else? With that, I'll make a motion to approve ordinances 24, 26, 27, 28, and 29. And I think we can vote on all at the same time. And if

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there's something you want to know on, >> you can just say no or not. And that was seconded by Deputy Mayor Oregon. >> So Kirk, can you call the roll call, please? >> Absolutely, Mayor. First for Mayor Schwarz, second for deputy mayor. Councilwoman Goldberg.

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I'm a no on uh 27, which is the cap bank, and I'm a no on 29, the 1.2 bond. And I'm a yes on 24, 25, 26, and the and 28. >> No on 27.

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>> No on 27. >> No on 27 and no on 29. >> Thank you, Councilman Pagan. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman G. >> Yes. Councilman cats.

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>> Councilman cats. >> Yes. On all the but no on 20. >> What? >> No. On which 20? The cap bank. I believe >> they're all 20s. >> No. On 20 on the cap bank. >> On 27. The capping is no 27. Okay.

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>> Debut may belchure. >> Yes to all. >> Dep Oregon. >> Yes to all. >> Mayor Schwarz. >> Yes to all and I appreciate the unanimous on 28. Thank you. >> With that being said, hearing is over and we'll go now to our public good and

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welfare. three minutes before I start with anyone in the room there. We'll go on to anyone like to speak about this. >> Talk about everything. You want to start? >> Do you like would you like to start? You

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wanted to talk about Voti Park in the middle field. >> Okay. >> Sorry, I lost track. Um, so I wanted to talk about resolution 179 2026

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um to go ahead with Fasttech, a consulting contract with FastTech, the engineering company to um look at the improvements, the proposed improvements for voting middlefield. I just want more of a distinction. Are you looking at do

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you want the engineer looking at the drainage um requirements for this area or is this drainage and the installation of the artificial turf? It's not quite clear to me. Um and so I'd like you to

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answer that. And my my second point is and I made this point last week and I and I thank um Deputy Mayor Karen Oregon. We had a conversation about this one on oneonone. You have an environmental commission in this town

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that has made a recommendation about this project. We've offered to bring an expert in. You um offered that that would be okay at the last council meeting which was just you know 10 business days ago about two weeks ago

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and she unfortunately was on leave and she's not available tonight. But you're going ahead anyway. And I think that what you what you really need to do is hear all the evidence that's out there or not about this new turf product. Um,

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and understand that no independent research from the company that makes the turf or inconclusive research that might be out there, we've been looking. We can't find it on this product.

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um doesn't equate safety and I think the public needs to know what we know and what we don't know about this product. >> Thank you very much. Anyone else like to speak inside? Anyone next?

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>> Hi, I'm Judy Green. I'm also on the environmental commission um and a T-neck resident. Um, I' I'd like to thank Avi for the a lot of the work he does for our parks, but I believe that one area

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needs greater transparency, and that's with regard to artificial tariff. TX parents um have the right to hear about credible dangers to the health and safety of

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their children and the environment that scientists have been researching. There is a lot of data out there. Uh, an important document produced by the New Jersey D, while calming fears about some

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toxicity related to artificial tariff, by no means endorses the use of synthetic playing fields over properly maintained grass. The field advisory board says that the recent uh DP report

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uh uh I'm sorry uh uh gives Oh yeah, the the field advisory board has said that the recent uh New Jersey D report has has given um a

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modern uh artificial turf, a clean Bill of Health, but uh a thorough reading of the New Jersey DE report, which I did with a fine tooth comb, uh shows that it's in

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no way a ringing endorsement of uh artificial care for children's sport fields and in fact raises a number of alarming issues. uh and that includes to large extent or to a particularly a

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great danger is microlastics which do not have to be included in the infill. They do not have to be included in the infill. They simp simply arise because there is no breakdown of plastic. They simply arise by weather and wear and

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tear feet, wind, rain, snow, ice, hail on the turf which releases from the surfaces of the turf. And if you realize this is made up of plastic blades of grass, if you try to even imagine the

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surface area of a large field of thin blades of grass, that surface area is extraordinary. And all of that releases microlastics which kids who are running around are breathing in pretty pretty hard. So

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parents uh uh and in addition the report points out that the whole no maintenance or lowmaintenance concept as pertaining to artificial turf is more a myth than a reality. If you read that report you see that the requirements the state rules

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and so on are massive. One last point, it's not democratic to simply not consider the environmental commission's uh uh proposal. It simply was not considered. That is not a democratic

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form of governance and I am very disappointed. >> Uh Mr. Yahoo Paul, you go next. Good evening everybody. Um I have three short things. One is maybe I misunderstood

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um but in your presentation there were uh two years of the recycling grant not included in the audit. >> It was updated um unfortunately it just didn't save properly. So, we've updated it and it'll be on the website all five years.

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>> Okay. Thank you. Uh, second, um, I don't really agree with the issue of this is a council meeting, therefore the public can't ask any questions. I think that it would be better if you say, okay, we're going to let the public ask six questions, three in here, three on Zoom,

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etc. Because yes, it's a council meeting, but the public is all also here and we do have questions. And the questions that I have may be questions that other people have. And if you say, let's say, six questions, if I ask a stupid question, then I blown one of the

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six. But if I ask a a question that makes sense and that other people also have then it can um it can answer some questions that other people have and may not or may not not think of asking. So I think that we also

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should be able to ask questions and not everybody is going to call the DPW and ask the questions. So I think we should be able to do that. The third thing is the 3minut limit I think has become insufficient in many cases. The words your three minutes are up are heard all

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too frequently. There are not enough meetings to allow everybody to say what they have to say and get it all out and to hear afterwards. Well, you can email the council. I don't think that gets it done. Um there are many months where

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there's only one meeting and those three minutes become extra precious. If we don't get to say if for example we can't attend a specific meeting then sometimes it's 2 months before we get those extra precious 3 minutes and we have to very

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carefully weigh exactly what we're going to say and sometimes we don't get to say what we really need to say and what we think that you really need to hear. You are our representatives and and we need you to know what we as the public in

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this town as the residents what we think you need to hear. It's really important and since you're representing us 3 minutes it goes by extremely quickly and I think you know that because you see the seconds ticking by. So I think it it

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used to be 5 minutes. I think if you put it at 5 minutes, you'll see that not everybody uses the whole five minutes. But if you think about how many times you hear your three minutes are up, you'll see that it's a lot. And especially the people on Zoom cut off in mid-sentence, mid word. Thank you very

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much. Hi, >> Paula. And then David evening Paula Regoven. My three sons played many a soccer and baseball game at Vote Park over the years. It's a wet land. It is a wet land. Um it floods and

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it flooded back decades ago when my kids played and it floods now. Microlastics astroturf is microlastics. Microlastics end up in every organ of our bodies

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even the placenta. They're dangerous and to go to an astroturf solution is is a very dangerous step um backwards for Tene on on other issues. Uh there

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was a derailment the other day in North Bergen. Um 13 freight cars derailed. You must know that the story changed from one day to the next and many of us suspect that there was a cover up about what really happened. News reports

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showed first responders diluting with water what they said was ethylacetate. Other news reports show plastic pellets. you have plastic pellets um being vacuumed up um for un very fortunately the pellets didn't burn because if they

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had we'd have another East Palestine in Ohio situation um it's it's some reports said there were leaks from the trains others said there were no leaks so it's really important that we pay attention to what

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happened and we also um have to think about derailments and their impact. If we go ahead, if you go ahead with the crossroads plan, which has a a a pathetic a horrible drainage uh plan,

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putting in the second pipe to uh take uh flood water to the swale or the drain of the CSX freight line, it's dangerous. It can lead to a derailment. And these are not in foreign parts of the country. This is this is right here in North

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Bergen, next county over. Um it could happen here and we don't want it to happen here. Um it could also lead to more flooding in Bod and other towns south. The Kier's report from March 2026 said that you had to confirm that the

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towns downstream would not be impacted. They're already impacted. If you take a little trip to Elm Street and River Road that floods to five, six feet. On the issue of affordable housing, I have very little time, but we don't want

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luxury housing um you know, as as an excuse for uh affordable units. We don't want it. We'd like self-contain. Many of us want self-contained housing like the uh veterans housing on American Legion Drive. the apartments, the senior

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housing on T-neck road and um affordable dwelling units and restoration of rent control. And I also ask you do not rush to moving out of the DPW yard because the land over at Overpek may be

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protected by the state. >> Thank you very much. Pull up. David Sandy, you go next. >> Good evening. My name is David Spielman. I am the recycling liaison for the environmental commission. I want to thank Director Romeo and then

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superintendent Submerbakeian uh our losses Woodcliffe Lakes Gain uh and the whole DPW for all their work. We were really looking forward to this presentation, uh, but it contained very little information that we didn't already have. I'd like to thank Director

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Romeo for answering most of our questions afterwards and he and I agreed that more public education is required and to work together to do more. Um, I know a lot of people had more questions and as recycling liaison, that's exactly what I'm here for. Uh, anyone can reach

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out to me at dspelmanacnj.gov of if they have any additional recycling questions. Thank you very much. >> Thank you, Mr. Sp. Thank you for all your help online answering those questions. Sandy >> Sandy Silverberg

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Tene resident, I wanted to thank the people who worked on the recycling plan. I'm thrilled to know that we will be able to uh recycle as is picked up. we've been separating and I think that just you know extra work on top of

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nothing and I hope that we do find a suitable place for the DPW a suitable rational place for it. It can't stay where it is. Uh, the other thing I wanted to cheer on, of course, is the

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library book sale. And I want to know who's in charge of the uh beautiful electronic boards out there because if there's a way for us to make some announcements, that would be really good. Uh, this is a very exciting event

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that caps off our fundraising and I hope the people will enjoy it and uh that we will make a lot a whole lot of money. Um, I just wondered if there was any way of knowing within a a bond issue where

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it says various projects and various things. You must have some in mind. And I wondered if any part of it would be to renovate the toilets in the um basement of the library. Thank you. Under three

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minutes. >> Thank you very much. Anybody else in the room like to speak? See no other hands in the room. Mr. Clerk, do we have anyone on Zoom? See no one on Zoom. Good and welfare is now over. Counciloman Goldberg, anything from you? >> Yep. Um, I want to thank Chairwoman

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Dylan. She correctly stated we have an environmental commission. They are a statutory board. They're not an advisory board. I have seen and heard a lot of disrespect towards her and I state that I is the leazison to the environmental commission and as her friend, I'm not okay with that. I don't like the way

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that she's been treated. The field advisory board is there to advise not how to spend most money, not to speak to vendors. That's what an RFQ process is for. Last meeting, Councilwoman G rightfully said that there's many projects that have to get funded. Projects in Argon Park, creating the

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pocket parks that Lilian Lewis was pushing for repeatedly, acquisition of new land, all of those funds need to be allocated equitably. The concerns about turf are not obscure. There studies from major universities and environmental groups all over the countries. They're not consistent. Nobody knows fully what

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what it is yet. And I would encou I and I for one do not think that anyone getting sales commission is free from bias when it comes to their own product. I spent my day at the Hackintosh River Nation today where I presented with Councilwoman Lisa Sand Husen from New Milford about uh how local environmental

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policies get done. And at the end of the meeting uh we ended with no is not the end. The environmental commission does not need this body's permission and would be free to have their own town hall the same way the planning board or board of adjustment would be free to do so. Doing so would be doing their job.

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We are are very aware of how much vote park floods. I know for a fact Dr. Powers can educate all of us on this topic. He saved us I don't know how much exactly. I'm sure he can tell us. Um a year ago I asked for an engineering study. Instead we have a contract very expensive contract that I don't even see

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budgeted for without a drainage study. We're asking our residents to pay $200,000 for something that we don't even know if it's feasible. Where is there that fiscal responsibility? The baseball fields have been poorly maintained for more than 20 years. Budgets are about priorities. Let's

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maintain our fields. That's the priority. >> Thank you very much. Um Ranger, you're we spoke. Everyone's >> Oh, you did. >> I just I did want to say one thing. Sorry. Um, I just want to say thank you

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to everyone on the environmental commission for all the work that you do, the commitment to the research, um, for being the voice um, for the environment and we really do appreciate all the work that you do and and um, informing everybody in the town about the things that you're passionate about. So, I just

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wanted to share that point of approval for myself. Thank you. >> Thank you very much, sir. >> Yeah, I just want to also speak to um environmental uh, commission. Um I I serve on a um statutory board so I know the amount of effort and energy and time that you you put into serving. Um I I

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want to say that I think it is concerning um when they we're a product is being proposed that can potentially have an adverse impact to our children for our children. These are our kids. And so why wouldn't we want to explore

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an expert testimony on alternatives? Um I I know I mean um I raised two daughters that were active in sports in this town. So I I know the importance of having good fields. I get it. But we

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don't want to provide something that's substandard. So, if nothing else, um I I 100% want to see our fields improved of all of our parks. Um but what would it hurt us to hear from an expert?

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Why why do we have to to to, you know, run so quickly on this? So, I would be 100% in favor of hearing from an expert that could um shine some light on um safety for our children. Uh I don't you know know very much about artificial

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turf and micro plastics but I certainly don't want our kids to be exposed to anything adverse. So uh I would be in favor of that. Um, and lastly, I just want to say that I think it's so important no matter what area we are

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looking to to procure uh within our township, having RFPs are having an RFP process is important because it speaks to competition and it speaks to the ability to to to hear from different vendors.

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So, um I know I mean I've I've known um our our uh in engineering company does extraordinary work within our town. Uh I was thinking that they were more doing oversight of more than actually, you know, the work. I I don't know. All I do

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know is that it's important to have some type of RFP process so that we as a governing body can know that our money is being spent by looking at a a vast array of vendors. So that's all I have to say. >> Thank you very much, Deputy Mayor.

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>> Yeah. So, first I I think it was terrible that Councilwoman Goldberg said that the Environmental Commission was disrespected. I don't think anybody would tolerate disrespect and I don't know of anybody that's disrespected you. Um I enjoyed my my talk with the

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chairwoman and we both presented what we felt and I assured you that if anything came up from this expert who you're going to try to get testify at our next meeting, we discussed it. Then we will deal with that. This is just laying the groundwork and putting aside funding for

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the engineer um to start doing the studies. But no company is being contracted with right now. Um I read the entire D study. I also read it with a fine tooth comb and I did not have a lot of time for it. But you can two things

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can be true at the same time. And one person can say that the D study is not a a glowing recommendation for artificial turf. Um but it also does not condemn it at all. And it lists, you know, when it

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talks about children sliding and getting burns, there have been two cases overall. It lists very, very, very small percentages of things happening. And we need to keep in mind that Voutique Park itself, the soil there is toxic. We've known that the park was closed once in

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the past for remediation. So, we all have to weigh the the balance, right, between what is safe and what is helpful and what could be dangerous. And it's not easy. And I understand that there are people on the environmental commission who feel one way and I value

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your opinion, but it's also okay for us up here before we make the decision to weigh our own opinions and to do our own research and to make a decision about it. And that should always be done with respect and um never with disrespect. So

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this is just um you know it discusses the scope of work and how much each phase would be for the uh engineer to start doing the work in the park. Um and if the expert can come testify at the next meeting, we've

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already told you that we're happy to put her on on the agenda. And that's where we are right now. Um for for Miss Elahu, a lot more gets done if you reach out to us. um by email. We have a manager that answers emails into

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the middle of the night and you have council members that answer emails and that's really how things get done. Um not from 3 minutes or 5 minutes at a meeting. Thank you. >> Sorry, I forgot one thing. Can we request um so with the the flooding on

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vote if we're going to put astroturf down um I'm concerned about that it'll just get damaged from the water if it continues to flood >> the entire study. >> Yeah. I just want to make sure that we incorporate that and we're not investing $2 million for it to just destroy. >> The biggest aspect and we went through

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this with the sports plex. The biggest cost involved is actually the drainage is why that field gets played on. If you ever drive drive by on a Sunday night in the pouring rain, it's being played on. The rain doesn't accumulate. The rain drains underneath. It's a drainage system that looks green. Um, with that

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said, tonight we're going to um, one of the resolutions is awarding a professional contract to our engineers to work to begin the work on making Vot Park Middlefield turf. It's not getting built today. It's not getting built tomorrow. We look forward to any other further spee uh speeches, presentations

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that come forward and there will be more votes before this council moving that forward. Further, there will be RFPs. There's a bidding process. It follows state law. There's no preferred vendor. Uh there's no one uh that just simply gets the contract. That said, tonight we

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move on and we start that process with safety mechanisms. Shouldn't need to end, but we must vote. We've heard from the parents. We've heard from the kids. It's time to move it forward and look forward to that vote. And with that said, we'll head on to our consent

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agenda. Um, and Mr. Clerk, what do you have for us in the bills list? >> Have we have Mayor a few resolutions, two sets of minutes, resolutions 179 through 185 and the

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bill's list of 16,223,222 >> 63. Thank you very much. And Mr. Mayor, second, >> can I Sorry. >> Can I pull Can I >> Sorry. Go ahead. Please. >> Yes. Go ahead. >> With that and the list of bills spent in the list of bonding, Miss Silverg,

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everything is listed. It's not a wish list. Everything's listed and detailed on the spending. I apologize. The money that we set aside in the bonds are in the bill list is specific items, not just the pool. Please speak to the manager so we can work on funding the next phase in the library. Um, what would you like to pull?

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179 and 185. >> 179 and 185. Anybody else want to pull anything else? With that, I'll make a motion to approve the minutes, the resolutions, except for the ones pulled, and the bill list. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Second. Roll call, please. And the on

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everything but those two. >> 179 and 185. >> Correct. >> Up and abstension on the bills list because I didn't get the backup that I requested. >> Was that an abstension on 180? been on 180 on the bills list and yes to the rest. >> Councilman Pagan,

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>> yes. >> Councilman G, >> yes. >> Councilman Catz, >> Debbie Mayor Belchure, >> yes. >> Deputy Mayor Oregon, >> yes. >> Mayor Schwarz, >> yes. Councilwoman Goldberg, 179. >> Um, just to to piggyback off of uh

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Deputy Mayor Belchure's point, I would actually like to table this uh so we can get uh pending that presentation. Um, so I would actually like to make a motion to table 179 for that presentation. Um, and then uh we can get that drainage

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study before we commit $200,000. That >> second >> conversation on that we >> the drainage study is part of that money. Drainage studies aren't free. So you can't do a drainage study without putting money aside for it. >> Vote against a field that the children

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have come out here numerous times. They will pack this room yet again as they play disgusting contaminated vote dirt fields. They're not even grass fields anymore. They're dirt. Stop with the analysis by paralysis by analysis. We

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move it forward. We are not building it today. So, if you're voting and the clerk is taking names, those will be the names that we report to the teams who don't want to finally give them the feels they deserve. >> Please do that. So, so, so let let's let's talk about this. We're not saying

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no to this. And I I think there's there's some kind of confusion here. We are not saying no to this. We are saying let's hear from an expert. There is nothing wrong with making sure that we have all the facts before we make an

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informed decision. That in fact helps us to make an informed decision. >> We've been hearing about it for a year and a half. >> I have yet to hear an expert. Have Have you heard expert? >> We don't talk when you talk. Please don't talk when we talk. >> Have we heard an expert? >> No. That's that's what >> I have not heard anyone talk. >> Let's pull the vote. There's a Let's

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pull the vote. >> So that's a motion to table. >> Motion to table >> until the that >> until the expert until the presentation that Chairwoman Dylan have a question. >> Yeah. I can we see the $198? um if we could see what exactly is

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included like what portion of that is the drainage study versus what whatever else because then it would help us better understand um if it's possible to separate out just the drainage the study >> yeah rewrite it. >> No, no, not right now. Maybe we can just

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table it to the next meeting so we can get clarify the information. Look, again, I I'm fully in support of getting the our residents the field that we want, but we need to make sure we're doing all the right research to ensure I know you're saying we want them to uh be on a field that's safe, right? That's not dirty, that's not muddy. We also

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don't want them to be on a on a a field that's, you know, flooded with microplastics that are dangerous for other reasons. So, I'm look, I'm not the expert here, but if you do a quick search, like it is a real issue in terms of the environmental safety of these fields. So, why not take a pause? Not

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everything has to be rushed >> to hear from an expert, figure out whether or not it's possible to break out the cost, just do the drainage study, get some more information, and then move forward after that just to make sure we're covering all our bases because it is our responsibility to get residents what they want, but it's also our responsibility to do the due diligence to make sure we're doing

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things that are safe for all uh res. We're funding the engineering report to do these studies right now. That's all this is, >> right? And I'm saying, let's see a breakout. If if it does cost $200,000, then it is what it is. I'm just curious if it is the entire piece or if it's a subset of the 200. That's all I'm saying. >> Do do we have to do we have to spend the

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full 200 if we approve this? >> Um, no. I don't >> So, if we could all open up to the resolution, it scope of work. The scope of work involves the design and construction management of a 90 foot synthetic turf multi-purpose field. Phase one, evaluate the current concept

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design for feasibility. Site visit and assessment. Conduct a thorough assessment of the project site, including topographic surveys. Gather necessary site data and evaluate existing drainage conditions and identify potential rrooting alternatives. Review the conceptual design for the field to ensure it

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addresses the needs for all intended plays. This is what we're voting for right now. We're not voting to hurt anyone. We're not voting to say that um we're not going to listen to an expert if they come. We're just starting a process. To your point, it looks like the

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evaluation phase is only $14,800. I didn't realize it was in here already. So, could we just vote for that portion before we move on to a detailed design phase and construction management phase? >> I would agree. >> Which is the bulk of it? >> I would agree to doing that. We'd have to separate it out. Scott, do we have to

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separate it out? Scott, >> I'm reading the contract. >> So, that would be like >> But then I would I would the presentation at the next meeting still. I think that's fair to to >> We're still doing the presentation when they're available regardless. >> That's fine. But I would agree to the

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14,000 for the drainage study. I still think it should go out to bid, but >> check is there you go. Okay. So, what what you could do is if that's what you want to do, you could vote to uh reject or to

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either or you vote to reject this current resolution and to uh award a contract to FastTech for that amount for what's described as phase one in the scope of work section of the contract. It would be subject to FastTech agreeing

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to it. You know, we we can't unilaterally force them to accept a contract. Um, so we could do subject to their agreement, but that's the that's the only way you could do that. >> Is it better to do it at the like to table do that cleanly at the next meeting? Like I don't know what the right way to do this is.

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>> Forget it. Just save it for the next meeting if it has the votes to table, but it be clean. >> No, this would be fine. >> Or maybe like a phase one. >> It's not going to get done, but it's >> Deputy Mayor. >> Deputy Mayor Oregon. Karen, I'm actually

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a no to tableabling, but I think it would just be a 33. >> Let's do vote. There's a vote. Roll call, please, on the table, please. >> Councilwoman Goldberg, >> I'm a yes to tableabling. >> Table Councilman Pagan, >> no.

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>> Councilwoman G. >> Yes. Councilman Catz, Dead Mayor Belure, >> I am I am a yes to uh tableabling. >> Mayor Oregon, >> no. >> Mayor Marshford, >> no. I'll make a motion to approve 179 of

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2026. Is there a second? >> Second. I I think just to clarify I know but just to clarify I believe and the attorney can say that the the town the the rules actually say I pulled it so I actually have to move it by >> are you moving it

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>> I'll move it not voting >> second roll call please now we did that dance roll call please >> who was the second I apologize >> motion by Goldber >> to move it >> yes >> sorry Councilwoman Goldberg

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>> no Councilman Pagan Yes. >> Councilman G. >> No. >> Councilman Catz. Apologies. >> Mayor Belchure. >> No. >> Deputy Mayor Morgan. >> Yes.

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>> I would be okay if next meeting if we do the 14,000. I know. >> Middle of the middle of a roll call. >> Oh, Mayor Schwarz. >> Yes. Does it pass? >> No. >> No. Advisory board's here. Fields pale next. Okay. 185. Councilman Goldberg.

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>> Uh what I'm a lot confused about 189 the plaza. Um okay. So this is the third uh amendment. This is the third amendment. Okay. Third amendment. Sorry.

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I'm a lot confused about 189 the plaza the third amendment. Uh I would like to understand first of all who is vertical realy and that they're selling it to. Um, I I can tell you I spent a lot of

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times with this. Deputy May uh Deputy Mayor Belchure and I spent actually it was like four months on this pilot agreement and I'm not sure why they're getting another extension and I'm not really really clear whether they can even transfer it. And I saw that there was I watched the the meeting that they want to go to threebedroom units which

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would vastly change the pilot agreement and definitely impact the school districts which is getting zero money of that pilot agreement. I have a really I would like to understand why we're extending this for a year and I'm not really clear what the process is on this

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at all. I don't know if Scott you can answer or if anyone from the zoning subcommittee, but I'm really confused on this one. >> Well, what I can tell you is uh the pilot is not automatically transferred by this. They be they would need to assign uh the pilot the fin call the

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financial agreement uh to the purchaser here which the council would need to vote on whether to accept or or reject that assignment. They can't just unilaterally um uh do that. So that's I guess a separate question from what this the purpose of this is which is just to

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give them time to sell and work out a redevelopment agreement with us. >> Okay. But the this is to extend it a year. Well I don't know why it's a year. I don't know who Vertical Realy is. I do know that we promised the public that this is exactly what wouldn't happen that this would not be sold. We literally sat up here and made that

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promise that there would be no transferring of that. This this is what would happen. And now we're talking about a sale and we have to approve transferring a pilot for I mean three-bedroom units will 100% impact the school district. No question. Um I have

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a huge problem with the fact that I feel like we were lied to. Um, and I don't understand why we would be approving another one-year extension after all of this. I don't really get it. >> Well, let's go right. Go to order.

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>> Yeah. Um, so I just have concerns about the process for how this was added to the agenda. We get a letter from Tuell on April 27th and in it he words, "If the township agrees with this request, haven't included for adoption on the agenda on 428." is not enough time for

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us to re review and discuss and you know go through the documents again. I just I I don't think this is a you know in terms of ways of working um I don't think that we should be you know rushing things on our agenda the day before. Um we all work full-time jobs there. It

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doesn't allow us enough time to review and and be thoughtful about these requests. Um and I don't think that they should be telling us when we can we should be putting things on our agenda. Um, I just don't think that's the appropriate way of of operating. >> She's 100% right, but you want to answer why. I believe it says a deadline this

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week. Is that why? >> That that is why >> it's not wasn't they'll gladly push it the next meeting, but it's a deadline this week. >> But then they should have reached out to us a week ahead. Like they shouldn't do it the day before. >> And this is the third time they did it the day before. >> Mr. Mayor, >> I'll I'll be quick because you've all heard me say this before. I don't like

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extending deadline um pilots that have expired, especially pilots that aren't fully capitalized. And I don't like selling pilots either. So, I'm going to be voting no on this. >> I don't think selling it though. Is that true? >> To clarify about the pilot >> transferring be the next step, Mr. Attorney. They're trying to sell it.

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>> Yeah, that would be that but that that would be the next step. Uh they would need your approval to do it. This just isn't >> different project. >> I'm sorry. >> It's a completely different project at three-bedroom units. >> Yeah. And so that's might be your decision as to whether or not you want

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to allow the pilot to be um to be assigned or you know or reworked or what or whatever. But that's separate from this. This is just about extending the um the deadline to allow them to >> Well, it it's about that and also that there's a new owner so that goes

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together too. And and I has there been any any analysis from our financial consultant, >> the one that I mean Hillary and I worked with this consultant when we we worked on the first pilot. >> Haven't Don't we want them to review it? >> They they so they they have not done

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anything yet because I don't believe we've gotten the detailed enough uh plans for them to do to do it and they haven't applied to us yet for the assignment of the pilot before that would be go for consideration the assignment of the pilot. they would need to do that analysis on their the new the

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new owners propo proposed plan. >> I'm also confused. The first extension was because of materials not available. Then there was an I'm not even sure what the second extension was and now it's we're selling it to a year for a year.

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Um >> I mean you can pro the council can amend this to less time if that's the I know there are other >> I'm like done I I agree with Councilman Pagan. I'm done with the with I'm done with the extensions. I think Danielle has a >> Yeah. No, I was just so for those on the zoning subcommittee, can you share out

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your thoughts and >> thoughts are simple? >> Do you want to go? >> Yeah. I There's a developer that can't afford to develop a property. So, it's been sitting there vacant with a promise of parking spots to um the the town public parking spots that are not being

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built and it's corroding and it's an empty lot. and he had an option to either not build it or I assume to sell it to somebody new. And so when they came to us, they came with new owners. So now we have somebody hopefully who's financially viable who can build a

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project that had already been approved by this council with changes without they're still all going to have to go through us, I assume. Um but what do we want at the end of the day? We want something built there and we want the the parking spots that have been promised to the town. So, I don't understand the logic of not giving an

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extension for a year. It's not like we're giving them a blank check. It's not like we're changing a pilot agreement to give them three-bedroom apartments now. We're just allowing a new owner to come in and hopefully produce a a product that will make the town better. And so, I don't understand

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what the confusion is or why you wouldn't want to give somebody the opportunity. At the end of the day, he's going to have to sell it to somebody anyway. You found someone to sell it to. So now at least we're moving forward. It's not going to be a hole like that parking lot across the street from it that has had a fence around it for 10

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years that's growing trees. >> Um and I'll I'll jump on that, but I'll agree. I agree with everyone's frustration. There's you're 100% right. They're frustrated. So we have two choices tonight. We can do two things with our frustration. We can say no, it probably goes bankrupt if eventually

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gets sold 10 years from now. We may see something built and we may get the 22 legal parking free parking spots that are being promised to the town as well as the affordable housing or we can say yes one extra letter and they get an

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extension and again maybe something gets built but this time it'll be in a year. Maybe there's a rework of the pilot that they have to come back. We have the power to say yes or no. It doesn't hurt us or the town at this point to say yes

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or no to say yes. If we say no, nothing gets done, nothing gets built, no affordable housing, no spots, maybe a lawsuit. I don't know if there's any marital lawsuit or we say yes, we leave tonight. If nothing happens, nothing happens either, but at least it's on

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them to sit there, rework a plan, come back, do it with a new developer. We control that. we control going forward or we control literally letting it be for 10 years. >> Followup question. Um do we know what is different about this new fire that

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allows them to three bedrooms building itself the same? The parking is um the the parking they're giving us the same. The other sites in this town, the other buildings, Avalon 1500 TX square are seeing a much better um rental and much more demand on three bedrooms. They

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did the math and said at a threebedroom, which is a higher rental rate and easier and cheaper to build, they could make this financially work. It will not financially work for one and two bedrooms. So that's the only reason why. And to go council, you're absolutely right from a pilot perspective for more

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students. Perhaps there is a way to say, you know what, we need to work this because you have that extra bedroom. You may have more kids. We want to have a conversation with money. But we only get to have that conversation perhaps over the next year or two if we say yes. If we say no, we spite ourselves and we

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still we don't get anything and it just sits an empty hall. >> And and the access um to the 23 township parking uh spaces uh is strictly from State Street. >> It's a it's a literally a dedicated

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dedicated >> dedicated parking garage for free build is a good point. What what what deputy um go deputy belchure is saying is that the 22 spots that they're giving us will have access off of State Street dedicated entry. No one else, you know,

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to the town. Not like, uh, hey, we're going to give you three spots spread out over 14 different floors. They're literally building us a private parking garage for the public for free. It's a huge amenity in that spot. There's very few spots there. Um, again, it may not get built, but at least we stand a chance by saying three words, three

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letters, yees. >> Can I just say one thing? I was just want to say something that most people won't say. I was wrong. I was wrong in 2023. Yeah. September of 2023. I sat up here and I pushed this pilot cuz Deputy Mayor Belchure and I worked on it. I was

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wrong. So, I'm sorry. We were lied to. We were all lied to. I was wrong. I will admit it. There we go. And I'm going to be a No. >> Um >> Well, I mean, as we know more, we do more and and we do better. So the whole

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idea is that we have no control over the the what happened to the developer and the circumstances behind why he has do what he has to do. The issue though is that two points he's saying that he needs to re-engineer the plan. I think

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that re-engineering of of that plan should be uh discussed with the entire council with the just the three of us heard that. And the second point is that he's basically um asking for a pilot,

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but a pilot three years ago versus a pilot today has a different financial impact. >> So I don't think we're voting on that part. >> No, but no, but but I'm saying why do we have to give him an entire year? Maybe we want to make a motion to give him 90

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days. So this way this way we are we are running a tighter ship in terms of >> responses so that he he let me just finish his point so that he can basically come back to us with uh to the entire council as to what the in

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re-engineered plan looks like and we can consult with our financial consultant to see what is the impact of this pilot that we agreed to three years ago based upon today's dollars. I it's not a he. It was a he before. Now the people that

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were here were at the last meeting with us. It's a totally new company that we haven't met yet. >> Right. >> So, we're approving this for them so that they can start to get a project off the ground. They're still going to have to renegotiate a pilot. >> I think we're just giving them some time. >> I I believe the year is to pull permits.

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Just the year is to pull permits. Not going to continue the scheme. So 90 days doesn't do anything. I mean can dance for 90 more days to keep dancing. But I think the answer is one year. MClair, correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Attorney. It's one year to pull permits.

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And if you're looking for a different time, I would say a little bit longer than 90 just so we can avoid this over and over again. But I definitely understand where you're coming from. >> But do you want 120 days then? Is that is that something? >> I'll agree to 30 days. That's it. >> 30 days is not doesn't

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>> That's all I'll agree to. We've given them three extensions and we don't know these people. >> Nobody expects your vote. >> I don't My vote matters. >> I think that everyone here >> Yeah. >> You'll be fine with six months and

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you're fine with 90 days. >> No extensions. >> Six. I I would do I actually normally don't mind 90 days. I'm doing six months just to avoid listening to it in three months. I actually won't be >> Should we sell at 120? >> They're not going to get anything done

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in months. They're not even going to transfer the title in the in the next few months. >> If we go with if we do 90 days, just keep in mind in 90 days they'll be here. It'll need another extension. They'll show you what they've accomplished, but we're not going to, you know, I don't want someone to get upset saying they're

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back again. They're back again at 90 days at our request. You know, 90 days. It's like, why are we hearing from you guys again? They're going to 90 days. They're going to need to hear from us. >> I mean, you're in real estate, you know. What are you getting done in 90 days? >> Yeah, that's that's reasonable. Let them

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come to us in 90 days. >> Yeah, I'm not going to vote for that. >> Then I don't think we're going to plan. So, that's that's an open. >> So, okay. So, can we uh can we >> can I can I ask the manager one quick question? >> Six months and I'll vote for it. >> Wait. Okay.

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>> Six months and I'll vote for it. Let's see. >> Five. Five months is in the middle. >> Sorry. No, no. I'm the one that always votes for everything. And this makes no sense. They're going to be back in three months or four months with no work done.

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It's It's a brand new company. Welcome to Tene. This is how we're going to treat you. >> But I I think I mean, you know, Councilwoman uh Goldberg and I spent a lot of time on this on working on this project. So that was 3 years ago. So I'm

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like saying we have to really let these developers know that they're that that we want them to expedite things. So I think 120 days is very generous. I really do. >> I think it's a good 20 days if they come because they need more time because they

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haven't gotten anything done. You owe me a drink. >> Can I ask the manager if it done? >> You ask a question, but you're not voting. You said you're not voting for >> I still have a question for the manager. I know. I think there's a motion on the floor to 180 to to rent make modify 185 2026 to 120 days. Is there a second on

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that? >> Point of order. >> Okay. Roll. >> I want to make a point of order. >> You voted in >> allowed to make a point of order. >> Make your point of order. Then we're going to continue. >> This vote took place three years ago. Four members of this council uh did not vote for a bond ordinance in exchange

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for this pilot agreement for a firetr. Madam manager, what is the status of that fire truck? Okay, there's a roll. >> No, I want to know the status. A point of order. >> Excuse me. Great point of order. Thank you very much. We're going to have a roll call now. Not talk with fire

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trucks. Can you please roll? Can you please >> The public has a right to know. >> Can you please call the roll call on 100 on 185 of 2026 with a 120day extension, please? >> Extension grant. >> Yes. 12 days approval. Okay.

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>> There was a motion from March. >> Second by Oregon. Councilwoman Goldberg, >> I made a point of order and I'm waiting for the question. >> I believe that was a no. >> Nope, that's not who I said. I would like the answer to the question. It's an open order is not a question. Okay. I asked a question to the manager and I'm

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allowed to do so. >> What's the next roll call, please? >> We didn't vote yet. >> So, we're I'm waiting for the answer to my question, which I'm allowed to do. She's >> I can answer it. Um you're asking when it's being delivered. >> Yeah. But uh we should have it by end of the year. Thank you. Now I will vote no.

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>> We vote no. Yes. >> Councilman began. >> No. >> Councilman G. >> Yes. >> Mayor Belure. >> Yes. >> Mayor Oregon. >> Mayor Schwarz. >> Yes. >> 120 days. >> Excellent. Intro ordinance

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>> Jin and >> Mr. The clerk, can you enter to be the in the ordinances by telephone? >> Introduction of ordinances. Two, we have ordinance number 32-2026

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amending section 36-11.2 chap 36 code act adding restricted on street parking space for the handicap at 886 link in place. We have ordinance 33-2026 amending and supplementing chapter 33 of the land use ordinance of the housing act

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sorry the land use ordinance of the township of act to address the requirements of the fair share housing act requiring compliance with the town's affordable housing obligations by establishing an affordable housing overlay zone designated as the inclusionary housing 3 overlay district and modifying the zoning map for 1387

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hill street. Those are the only ordinances for introduction. >> Motion to second by >> Councilwoman Goldberg. >> Yes. To 32 and I'm abstained on 33 due to a campaign contribution. >> Councilman Pagan,

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>> yes. >> Councilwoman G. >> Yes. >> Councilman Catz, >> sorry. Deputy Mayor Belure, >> yes. >> Deputy Mayor Oregon, >> yes. >> Mayor Schwarz, >> yes. >> All introduced. We'll see him on the 19th.

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extension on we can we anyways question. Was there extension on 33 because of a campaign contribution? Was that what the minute said? >> That's what I said. >> You got a contribution from 137 Hill Street. >> Yeah, we're a jerk. >> Have a good night everybody.