building board, bulletin board, and the mayor hereby directs that the statement be included in the minutes. >> Okay. Thank you, madame clerk. Um, we are not going to be doing the poetry tonight. So, if anyone's here for that, I'm joking. Joking. Joking. Joke. Sorry. I guess that's all everyone's here for.
Okay. Um, welcome to the November 10th, 2025 open session meeting of the Township of Tina Council. Uh, township administration president at tonight's meeting are Jaclyn Hashman, our township manager, Doug Rion, our township clerk, Kristen Denori, our deputy township clerk, Scott Salmon, our township
attorney, and Ron Goodman, our volunteer cable master. Upcoming events and council meetings for the public information. We are currently holding a hybrid format meeting. We have people in person and on Zoom. If our Wi-Fi at the municipal building has an issue where the Zoom meeting drops, we will aim to
retrieve the connection and continue the meeting. If you haven't yet signed up for the web website and alert updates in township alerts, please do so. The next regular council meeting council meeting will be on Tuesday, December 9th, starting at 6:30. We have public the public portion beginning at 8:00. Our
municipal offices will be closed tomorrow, November 11th, in observance of Veterans Day. Tomorrow's Veterans Day ceremony will be has been moved inside here at 11:00 a.m. Our municipal offices will also be closed on Thursday, November 27th and Friday, November 28th.
Uh, tree lighting on the municipal green will be on December 4th at Thursday, December 4th at 6 p.m. The council met in close session to discuss the following personnel, contracts, zoning, review of fourth round affordable housing compliance in discussion of next steps, legal issues or opinions
regarding any items on the open agenda, litigation updates, and OPRA. And with that, we'll start the agenda with presentation. And we'll start with a certificate of recognition for Athens Bakery uh led by
Deputy Mayor Denise Belchure. Hey, good evening. Good evening. Okay, so we um love to take opportunities to recognize businesses that have been in our town and have served our our town residents for for many many years and
such is the case tonight. And u I'd like to ask if Mr. George Manales could come up and his family. Uh many of you know Athens Bakery. Okay. Athens Bakery has been a staple within our township for
for many years excess of 30 years and we are super excited to uh recognize the fact that they have been um here and serving our community. In fact, many of our uh township employees um benefit
from how close you are to the township um office uh offices here. So, just to give you some insight, Athens Bakery has been around for for many many years. They have uh your roots in in Greece and many of many of you uh have experienced
the the sweet treats that they have from all different types of cookies and cakes and and nicities that we have. uh we all enjoy. So I just would like to introduce and many of you know already Mr. Mr. and Mrs. uh Manales of Athens Bakery and
they have been here how many years? 30 years. 30 years in town right here on Cedto Lane. So we're super excited for that major milestone to recognize a business that has been around for this length of time and we just want to recognize and thank you for that. So,
uh, if we could take a, uh, a moment to ask if you'd like to say a few words and then we'll take a picture. Uh first of all I have to thank the castle women and castle men uh to to give this honor and uh my I have to
thank my family and all my customers in Tina for the support of me for 30 years to be here otherwise you know they they are behind me. Okay. Thank you very much. Okay. So, um, Mr. Manales, just um, for
Athens Bakery for being a staple business on Cedar Lane for more than 30 years, thank you for being a member of our community. Can we get a I don't ant Okay. So, Mr. Mayor, if you and uh colleagues, if you want to chime in,
>> sure. I want to congratulate you on 30 years. Um, first of all, I personally own retail locations. I also used to own bakeries and uh it is a very difficult business. Beautiful from the customer side of the counter, but it is very hard
on the other side. 23-h hour business I believe whether it's going out that door or that door um and if it rains it's a different clientele if it's if it's sunny it's a different clientele always very challenging so uh thank you for your persistence perseverance and your
dedication to the T-neck community and you're putting out your amazing food and keep it up for another 30 years >> um I also want to echo Ellie's uh comments here you we are so grateful for you coming to TAC and bringing a little bit of Greece to the community. I think
what I love about Tene is that there's a little bit of culture all over. We are such a diverse town and and really you are what makes us special. So, thank you so much. >> We thought we were going to get some treats tonight. Maybe
um I'm sure there are many people that you know by name that know you by name that have been in and out the door over the years and um that's really what makes us a township and what makes us a community. That's what we call the good stuff. So, thank you for being part of our good stuff. >> So, the mayor of Ridgefield, a guy whose
name is Hugo Hemanz, calls me about every week to talk about how delicious you guys are and how amazing you are. And so, then I invite him over. Come to Tene. Let's meet there. We'll have some coffee, get some pastries. And I love him, but he always flakes on me because something is always popping up. Um, but I'm going to try and get him there this
week because he also wants to say thank you. I want to say thank you. Everybody knows I love to eat. I love to take photos. and I've been going there since I was a little kid. So, thank you for everything that you've done for our community. Our diversity is our greatest strength. Food brings people together. Always has, always will. And congratulations.
>> Congratulations. But you didn't introduce who else was in the room. And I know you've worked hard, but I'm sure they've worked been alongside with you. So, I guess I imagine that's your three daughters. >> Welcome to Welcome to Tick. It's only been 30 years. Thank you very much.
Thank you. Mayor, can I just say something really quick, too? It's just a quick thank you. >> Can you hear me? >> Yes, we hear you. >> Yes. >> Okay. Sorry. Sorry. It was It was weird before. Um, I just want to also, you know, echo what everyone said as well. Um, I have been into your bakery. I
really love your bread. I just want to everyone should go get your bread. It's amazing. Um, and when I I lived on that side of town, it was great to walk to. Um, so congratulations. Thank you for being part of the community and and I really encourage everyone to go there and Amazing. Thank you. Okay, thank you very much. More than
welcome to stay, leave. We'll be we'll be here for five more hours, so stay. Um, okay. With that, we'll go on to the next presentation. That's going to be our Township Po La Laurette, the 2025 community poetry contest. He was There you are. Didn't see Scott. Take the take the lead. Tell us what you want us to
do. >> No worries. No worries. No worries. Okay folks, I wanted to take the opportunity to to come here tonight just to share some uh you know wonderful community uh uh news. I guess we had an
extremely extremely successful um 2025 poet laurate community uh poetry contest. We had over 80 submissions and um out of those 80 submissions, we narrowed it down and we picked four uh
winners. We're calling them winners. Um but actually everybody was a winner who uh participated. It was a really really really cool event. In conjunction with that, out on the municipal green at the children's reading garden, we had the opportunity to erect a uh a permanent
poetry marker. Um, so in your travels, if you're out and about, please share that there's a really, really, really cool poem uh on the municipal green entitled Ode to T-neck, and it's written by somebody that I know. So, please,
please go out there and take a look. Um, with that said, tonight we invited the four winners to come here to not only be recognized, but just to take a couple of minutes and share what they wrote. We have two amazing students and we have
two outstanding adults. And we have another special young man who I asked to uh to come out. His name is William Dempsey. William is the youngest uh person to submit to our contest and he's all of council. He's all of eight years
old. So um yeah, we're we're we're we're in for a treat. So with that said, I would like for William uh to come up. Are you ready? And he's going to share his poem. And his poem is entitled T-neck is. Am I right? All right. Come
on up, Will. Can you read that? Get out of your way. T-neck is full of nature with many plants, wildlife, and trees. Tene is where I feel free.
T-neck is filled with great books. From our large public library to our little free libraries, Tene is beautiful in the many places you look. Tene is filled with great playgrounds
and parks. Great for playing. Tene is great. That is what I'm saying. Tene is also full of great schools like my school. Tene is just so cool. Tene is home to delicious food like pizza,
bagels, and bananas and desserts like ice cream. Tene is one big team. Tene is where most of my friends live. That is another thing that Teneck gives. Teneck is where I can roam. T-neck is our home.
>> All right. We're gonna change change it up a little bit. We're going to call William back back up. Um and and and one of the other reasons why I thought it was so important for William to come out over the past couple of years, I've been interviewed um several times, and one of
the things that they always ask me is, "Do I remember the first poem that I read?" Now, the first poem that I read was called um My Shadow by Robert Lewis Stevenson. That's about all I remember. So now Williams gonna have a memory
that's documented, that's recorded in front of our whatever it is forever. And that's why it was so important for him to be here. So I'd like to give him another round of applause. [Music] Okay, we're going to move forward. We're going to move to our next student poet.
Um this this um young lady wrote a uh a fantastic poem. She didn't have the opportunity to come out when we did the festivities at the library, but she is with us tonight. And I asked Mayor Pagan to bring down her certificates that we
uh excuse me, Council Member Pagan to bring down our certificates that we didn't have an opportunity to present to her at the library. So, with that said, D'Angel come on up. You gota read you can read it off with
that. >> Yeah. Thank you. Okay. Okay. The trees of OT stands tall. Kids playing playing in piles. Walking through homes skipping through miles. They are bursting out laughing while
walking down sidewalk, stepping on the crunchy orange leaves, seeing the color change while the summer leaves. All right. Thank you, Mike. Okay. Now, our next student reader, I'm not going to give you the backstory on
why uh he didn't read at the uh at the event. However, he's with us tonight and and I am so excited to hear him read his poem. The unique thing about his poem was he wrote a a poem using the word
teneck and it's called an acrostic poem where you take the first letter in each of of the word and you make a a sentence and a poem out of it. So he was extremely creative and extremely good. Um put your hands together and welcome
Ethan Solomon. My name is Ethan Salman and I wrote this acrostic poem for the township of Tene. Trees tell different stories under the warm colors of the sky. Every corner holds stories as people pass by. All
around, cultures blend a history so powerful. Nurturing a town where everyone can stand proud. Energy of the young fills the playful parks, creating memories that leave their marks. Kindness flows throughout the streets, a town so strong.
Got it. I got it. I have it. All right, we'll get you back. Ethan Solomon. >> All right. All right. Now, we're going to move to our adult um poets. Uh this young lady
wrote a very interesting poem. And um Adria, are you Andrea? Okay. All right. H Andrea. Andrea. Andrea, I got it.
Wait. Oh. Oh, hold on. Then then in 45 seconds, I don't feel too bad, right? Okay. All right. Warm warm bush. Warm flash. All right. Two strikes. I'm going to leave the last name alone. We're just going to we're going to just
we're going to we're going to bring her up here and ask her to read her her poem. um at the event actually her son had the opportunity to read her poem and I was so grateful because I thought I might have to read it and then I started
looking at it and realizing that I would have been uh uh I wouldn't have been able to read it. Let me just put it that way and stuff. But but the part that that did strike me in in her in her poem and we car responded on it and it was a a
little point of inspiration and and the question that I had was whether or not to capitalize the word hope in her poem and she told me how important it was to make sure that word was capitalized. So
let's put our hands together and we're gonna welcome Miss Rosenbomb to the stage. Okay, I was not real very prepared and I did not bring my poem big. So, it's just on my phone, so hopefully I won't mess up too much. It's called the Tene Greenhouse. I don't know if you guys
know this, but we have this amazing greenhouse all the way on the other side of T-neck and uh I've met some incredible people there and it's changed my life. Oh, thank you. Perfect. The Tene Greenhouse lives at the end of
Lindberg Boulevard, nestled by trees. Garden Club plots placed shouldertosh shoulder, waiting to be tilled and filled. Possibilities thrive within the elderly steel structure of our greenhouse. First transformed in 1954.
Glass walls reflect as neighbors discover themselves in each other, sharing the rise and fall of laughter, individual philosophies, and a multitude of methods concerning how to wake a still seed. Past the glass door, you'll
find leaves of various shapes, sizes, textures, and colors. Figs, ferns, felonopsis, kolus, caladium, and croin, all reaching for the same sun. The scent of life is insistent as a rainbow of
hands work side by side in the soil. The heater hums while fans whirl and beat in a repeating rhythm. Even in dark frigid February, seedlings softly sing a verdant song in the humid air. Plants don't care about politics or religion.
They are colorblind. Here, hope stirs life. Wafting, floating, whispering, welcome to everyone. >> And that's the T-et greenhouse. Now, our final uh poet for for the night took us
on a journey, and I am so appreciative of the journey that she took us on. Um she explains to us how important it is to be amongst a community of teen. And as life takes you in different
directions, we might hear this often. It pulls you this way, it pulls you that way, but for some reason T-neck seems to always pull you back. And within her poem, she gives a a a wonderful uh
poetic descriptive description of her journey. So with that said, I welcome Kende Naomi S. Good evening. I cross oceans to get here. A child of
West Africa caring wall in my lungs. It was t- neck where I finally exhale. Where this town became my second cradle. Unpack our lives and plant the roofs that bloom alone. T-neck roll between cedar lane. Steady hums rising from
temples, mosque and churches. A symphony of faith. A corray of languages and traditions woven together like the branches shading vote park. I grew up in it school. From the halls to the blue walls, a castle on the hill where dreams
felt reachable. Where every teacher showed me that hope isn't just inherited, it's nurture. I stacked books, let story whispered the way into me and wore compassion like a uniform back then. Summer nights taste the sweet
soft serve melting quicker than the evening sky. This sweetness linger like laughter driven down queen and row or footstep pass devotees open field teneic. I've seen you worship in every language Christian hymns Hebrew prayers
the Muslim call to prayer echoing at dawn. You are more than what outsiders imagine a quote stitch with cultures color cuisine and countless story. I tried I tried to leave you twice but my father needed steady hands. Destiny
pulled me back. And you, Teneck, open your arms again and show me that home home isn't is only where you live. It's where your story carry. Here streets aren't just absoluteries that pump life through families and
generation. You are not just where I live. You are where I have become. The soil that caught my footstep. The sky that covered my prayers. The place that raised me, released me, and welcome me back again. You are more my compass, my
keeper, my song forever and always. Teen, thank you. I'm going to ask our poets to please come forward once again. Please step forward. Come on up. We got some some certificates. Come down. Come on. something. Mayor, come on down. I got
it, Doug. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. Okay, we got we got state legislator. Um, why don't you read it out? You got >> I got I got you can read. We also have we've been we've been uh
privileged to have some certificates from uh the state of New Jersey Senate and General Assembly. The citations and the citations uh read in celebration of the T-neck poet 2025 community poetry contest. We salute you and congratulate
you as an esteemed winner by the citizen citizenry of the 37th New Jersey legislative district through their elective representative representatives senator Gordon Johnson, Assembly members Shama Hadia and Ellen Park. So these are
a step up from our council. They they won't say it, but they are and stuff and they're they're really really cool. So, um, we like for you to have these also. Okay. One last
now before we um before we take our our final photos, I I want to to just take a minute and I want to recognize I'd like the council to also recognize we have another amazing uh person in the audience with us. Um he's a young man um
from BF, 8th grade student, and he was out there with us. He volunteered to to come out there with us when we did the ceremony and the uh the the uh library reopening. Um his parents were generous enough to bring him back out here again
um this evening. His name is Reed Hassan and he's right here. He's our student photographer. Wave your hand so they know who You know >> you're in you're in BF. Wow. Okay. I thought you were my is okay. Certificate
of appreciation. Outstanding for photographic contributions. Read Hassana Tenic poet laurette 2025 community poetry contest. Scott Pleasants or poet laurette tenic New Jersey. And and I actually didn't realize you were that young. But what I appreciate about you was this. Took the picture. No comments.
No retakes. Everyone knows and you good photographer. You don't have to go on and on and on and you made it happen. Each one just give us a thumb that you were doing the other day. Exactly. Exactly. It was like next, next. Appreciate your Thank you very much for all your help and we look forward to seeing you at many more council meetings.
I'm dead. There we go. >> Okay. >> Oh, one more. One more. One more. Okay. >> That's the cool guy. >> Okay. >> William Dempsey. >> William Dempsey, where are you? Oh, you were just delaying in bedtime. We know.
>> Okay. TW. This is our certificate of recognition to William Dempsey for your poem Tene is signed by the mayor, myself, Karen or Oregon or Oregon or Oregon or Oregon or Oregon or Oregon or Oregon or Oregon or Oregon or Oregon or Oregon our deputy mayor Denise Belchure our deputy mayor Daniel G councilwoman Hillary Goldberg councilwoman Ellie Catz councilman Michael Pagan our councilman
and our township manager Jaclyn Hashmat. You want to hold that up and we're going to take a picture with >> All right. Come down for a picture. It's like put shoes on. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What I want Yeah. Little
I love that. We're good. Good job and see you again. Otherwise, No more rest, right? Wait, what's your problem? And continuing the meeting go work session items miscellaneous
old business new business communications committee reports by council lea's own any >> Mr. Mayor. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Um I have two. So, uh PP met um the
first week of November. Um the after school program at Roa Center is uh fully enrolled 125 students um for after school K through 8. Um Sunshine Gardens has 22 preschoolers that was reported. Um and they're still doing tours. Uh they're doing fall recreation classes
that are are >> Can you draw closer to your microphone perhaps? >> I can try. Okay. Okay. Can you hear me now? I'm trying. I'm trying. >> Yes. >> Not very. >> Okay. Start one more time. Zoom. >> Okay. PPIB Met. Um the afterchool
program is fully enrolled at Roa Center. 125 students uh K through eight and Sunshine Gardens has 22 preschoolers and they're doing tours. So if anybody wants to go on that tour. Um and senior programming is one of our strongest engagement areas with more than 700 uh
registrants uh for this session including computers and activities. Um they discussed the inclusive playground which I think uh is also later on but I just wanted to give the report piece. Um so their request from the based on the community survey the priorities
identified were shade and seating adaptive swing options sensory play and embedded movement graphics uh a designated quiet area which is required under Jake's law and the co-chairs are preparing a short summary to send to full council engineering and the
manager. They also requested um that we um uh fund the skateboard park for 2026 and asked that I ask about um insurance impact on that. They were discussing putting it in boutique park, but they wanted to confirm the insurance impact first. So, I guess that's a question for
Jackie. I just want to finish this piece first. Um and then the I presented and I will forward to full counsel. Um uh the environmental commission put together a recommendation um that they haven't discussed yet as a board yet,
but they want to have a joint meeting with the with PP, the environmental commission, and the fields advisory board regarding um turf. Uh PPB's discussed their their report and understands that there are non I'm going
to say this part wrong. I'm sorry. Non-microlastic turf systems. Wow, that was a mouthful. I'm sorry. um that do exist. Um which is why um the inquiry about the joint meeting was um I will forward the full report. Um that was that was it. So uh madam manager if you
could find out about the insurance impact on the skateboard park and so I can get back to them. That was that was it. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. U we have we have an update on the insurance uh and M the manager will report on that in a few minutes. >> Thank you.
just a a brief um report. U historic preservation has been meeting. Uh we're working on some additional markers throughout the township. So you should be hearing and seeing about um some unveiling of markers. And I just want to mention another historic uh event that's upcoming. The Ruby Bridges Walk to
School Day is on November 14th. Uh and all of our schools are participating in it. There are some really uh great programs surrounding this. As we all know, Ruby Bridges was a a important um um person within our civil rights movement and it's great that our young
people are learning about her and the sacrifice that she made um and and um throughout her life. So, try to attend or try to uh find out more information about the November 14th uh event. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Anyone else in community um committee reports? um for
everybody who came out to the library open grand opening on Sunday. Um we had 200 people there. I'm not sure there are any books left in the library. Um but it was a wonderful event put on by the library staff, library board, and friends of the library. And it was
really nice to see everybody come together in a fun and wonderful way. Uh tomorrow Patriotic Observance Advisory Board um for anyone who didn't hear 11 o'clock um we'll have our Veterans Day celebration inside and the ad hoc
informal budget finance not advisory board met um on two separate Zooms. Um, one was very, uh, one of them was very, um,
I'm trying to think of the word. Um, a lot of energy and a lot of great ideas, and we're hoping to sit down together in person, uh, with the manager, the mayor, and the CFO and talk about this going forward. Thank you. >> Thank you. How many people were at the library open house? I think we had a
number of 20 >> 2500. >> 2500. >> There's a door counter. So, okay. Um, any reports? We'll go to council listed items. Recycling rules, which omitted deputy mayor, so I'm going to turn the mic over to her on a recycling rules
question. >> I was wondering if we could get a report maybe at the January meeting um from DPW and the attorney. What is required for us to do in terms of recycling and how much it costs us um to recycle? I know
sometimes we have single stream recycling and um I'd love to know where everything goes, where it ends up, how much we're paying for it, if we're actually helping the environment or just paying a lot of money to um get rid of
what becomes garbage. >> I'll say that less politely. I think we're throwing off the stuff in the garbage. I think that we're doing it because it's a state rule. I think we're spending a lot of money because it's a state rule. And it used to be that we made money on it and used to be then we made less money on it. And then China said, "We don't want your garbage and
we're still sending it out and I think we're dumping into landfills. Uh the residents are catching on to that because there's no such thing as single stream, double stream." They see it being coingled and we're pretty sure no one's unmingling it. So, um, if we can just see who's full of it, because
someone is, and then we can push work and I'm sure we would have 550 other municipalities that would love to reduce the recycling requirements, not because they're not recycling. We'd love to recycle, but not when it's going in the garbage. We'll just let our garbage companies pick it up if that's the case.
We're all for recycling so long as it goes to recycling. So, if we can have a Frank and honest conversation with ourselves first and then take it up, that would be appreciated. Was that said as politely? >> Mine was much nicer. Yeah. I >> can I ask a question for the attorney? Wasn't the 1987 recycling act a thing?
Like we're required to recycling to recycle. I don't think we're going to undo the 1987 act. I guess it's a Scott question. >> Oh, it's a lifelong thing. We're never going to change. >> I I don't I don't know, but it's the 1987 recycling act. >> Great. >> That's correct. That's that's the current law. Yeah. >> Okay. Excellent. So, we want to know if
we're where is it going and if it's going in the garbage, which is the case, the 1987 act could be unenacted. Um, and we'll work with our other League of Municipalities because there's billions of dollars being spent, which we suspect, and maybe we're wrong, is going in the garbage. >> If if we could get that added to the
report in January, that would be great. >> Yes. No problem. >> Okay. Um, township managers reports. >> Thank you, Mayor, and good evening, council and township residents. Um, the best practices inventory was designed as
part of the former Governor Christiey's toolkit to provide measures and incentives designed to support local governments in planning and managing their budgets more effectively and set up a platform that enables officials at all levels of government to do a better
job reviewing their existing services, programs, and workforces and setting budget priorities. The score on a municipality's inventory coincides with the amount of withheld state aid, if any, for the municipality's final payment with the maximum withholding
penalty set at 5% of the final December state aid installment for 2025. The minimum score required to retain 100% of a municipality state aid payment was a score of 32 or more points. The township's checklist earned a score of
40.5 points. Leaf collection is fully underway. Our DPW is working to collect the leaves as quickly and efficiently as possible. This is yet another year where the leaves are falling late in the season. Our no parking signs will be posted on the streets starting this Friday,
November 14th, for collection starting on Monday, November 17th. This new system will drastically speed up the leaf collection process for the township. Please look out for these no parking signs in your quadrant and please follow the signs accordingly.
Due to the ongoing government shutdown, our over 1,52 tene families that rely on SNAP benefits may experience serious delays in receiving assistance. The township of Tene in collaboration with Never Alone Again food pantry are asking our generous Tina community to come
together between now and Thanksgiving to help support a townwide food drive. Please bring non-p perishable food items to the following drop off locations. Tene Township Hall, the Roa Center, and also the Never Alone Again food pantry
located at 1465 Palisade Avenue. Please be advised that due to the cold weather and expected wind gusts, our Veterans Day ceremony has been moved indoors to council chambers for tomorrow, November 11th, at 11:00 a.m.
Our turkey drive is set to take place on November 22nd with additional details to be posted later this week. The township's annual toy drive kicks off today with dropoff locations at Township Hall, all fire stations, the police department, the library, and the
Roa Center. The Tene Public Library is now officially open. The reopening event brought upwards of 2,200 visitors, and we look forward to everyone enjoying our newly renovated space. The township's annual tree lighting um
ceremony is scheduled for December 4th at 6 pm on the municipal green. And in addition, our manura lighting um event is scheduled for December 15th at 5:30 also on the municipal green. Our first Quanza event is tentatively
scheduled for Sunday, December 28th with additional details to follow. The project titled Route 4 eastbound and Decator Avenue ramp widening widening is once again delayed and now scheduled to start the week of November 17th. This work will require full closure of the
Decatur Avenue exit ramp and detours will be in place. Our 2026 department budget hearings were successfully completed this past week. The CFI CFO and I will continue our review of the operating budget for this upcoming year.
PSEG is scheduled to deliver a large piece of equipment called a switch gear to the substation on Palisades Avenue around November 14th, but this date is subject to change. This is intended to upgrade the existing substations around the state for continuity. Proper
notifications will be in place once confirmed and this delivery may disrupt some ROA center programming. On November 20th at Temple Moth, the Chamber of Commerce is hosting the 2025 Spotlight on Tene Businesses dinner,
celebrating the best businesses and organizations in Tene. This dinner, formerly known as the community awards dinner, is meant to put a spotlight on some very deserving businesses and organizations that helped to make Tene so special. If interested, please refer
to the link to purchase tickets that will be available on our website. Some grant updates we have for you tonight. We have completed a grant application for New Jersey Division of Highway Safety Drive Sober or Get Pulled Over year-end holiday crackdown. I'm
also working with Millennium Strategies to prepare our CDBG application that is due the end of December. For our project updates, the Argon Park tennis courts are scheduled to be lined this week and they will be reopened upon completion. The Bell Avenue drainage
project. The contractor has completed the milling and paving of Bell Avenue from Beatatric to Sagamore Avenue. The Bell Avenue bio swells project is out to bid and is also scheduled for bid opening November 25th. Our 2024 road resurfacing project will
commence in the spring due to the expected cold temperatures. We have about eight streets that still need to be completed and they will be prioritized in spring of 2026. Brooks Park exercise station. This project is also out to bid and the bid opening will be scheduled for November
25th and the restrooms are currently in the design phase. Sagamore Park Improvements. The concept plan has been updated to include a rock climbing feature in place of the splash pad as well as an additional um multi- multi-person swing and a small climbing
feature in another area of the park. the Maple Avenue improvements um work is underway and progressing. The Phelps Park splash pad. The bids um were opened on October 15th and we plan to award the contract at our next council meeting.
Palisades Avenue, West Triion, and Galloway Place improvements. The construction is scheduled to begin this week. Some general updates I have for you is the no sign the no parking signage um has been successfully installed on the west side of Decar Avenue between Alfred Avenue and Tisian.
Wishing you and your families a very happy Thanksgiving. That's all I have for you tonight, Mayor. Mr. Mayor, can I ask a question? >> Yes. Go ahead. >> Sorry. On the best practices inventory, um so I I'm glad that we got the 100%
funding. Um, are there areas like lowhanging fruit areas that we can improve on next year because I want to make sure that we don't lose the two points um and get hit with a 25%. Is there anything that we identified to to be proactive for that
for next year? >> Um, I did go through the list with um, issa and there are certain items that we are going to concentrate on that we can always do better on that we've made notes on. Um, I had one specific question on question 12 about the volunteer tuition credits. I know we
don't have a volunteer fire department, but we do have TAC and maybe something come to come back to in our next meeting. We didn't get we answered NA because of that, but is there an opportunity that we can access the state tuition credit program through us um to
get them the the benefit um for TVAC and then we also get the point too. Is that something we can look into? >> Sure. I'll ask the CFO if we can look into that with the auditor. >> Um, and then I just have one other question also just it's not urgent. I just want to get back to a question on for next meeting for the lead
inspections. Um, what what's the process for the lead unit inspections to conduct the followup because it says that we did 275 771 visuals, 75 units certified, but we didn't do the post remediation. Is that
something that we can uh improve on for next year to get the point? I'm just I don't I don't know the process at all. >> Um I will check in with our health department and check uh why that was. I'm not not quite sure, but I will I will look into it. >> Thank you. And then I said one last I saw for an easier point that all our
neighboring towns do this. This seems like an easy one, I think. Um putting the labor contracts on the website. Um that seems like an easy transparency one and we get the point for it. Is that something that we can put on the website? >> Absolutely. I'll make sure that they get
on the website. >> Thank you so much. That's it. >> Okay. Thank you very much. And and sorry I I punted it to you. I'll take it back. Um the skate park and um is the insurance company gave us a thumbs up on the skate park and said any insurance is negligible and therefore um if our PPB
and our field or fields because it is part of the field can look at that and see what it would take to move that in the next direction that would be appreciated. No problem. >> Um, okay. Um, on to or uh legal report. Sorry, I apologize. >> That's okay. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So,
uh, real quick, there's one uh, ordinance that's being introduced that I want to mention. This is ordinance 41-2025 related to the uh, application and review committee of the land use boards. This is an amendment of an ordinance that the council uh, adopted in December
of last year. This was at the request of the chair of the planning board to resolve some um items of confusion uh then that that the committee was having about who was primarily about who was responsible for certain things such as who was
responsible for sending out correspondence on behalf of the the board uh and and you know when that correspondence had to be said and then there was some I'll say other typos and things like that and grammatical things that we wanted to fix as well while we were doing this in the final edition.
was on the second page of this is to add a there's a $15 fee for publication of the board decision. That is a fee that we previously charged before we introduced this, but in the in the me in the uh while we were adopting the um the original version of it, for some reason
that $15 fee just got dropped and so we're just adding it adding it back into where where it belong. >> Which number is this? >> This is ordinance 41-2 tonight. >> Just being introduced tonight. >> Yep. >> Okay. Anything else? Good. And now we'll go to the public hearing and adoption of the tonight's ordinances. Mr. Clerk,
please read. >> Mr. Clerk, I'm sorry. My apologies. >> It's okay. It's okay. So, we have two ordinance up tonight for adoption. We have ordinance 38-2025 which is authorizing a special emergency appropriation in the amount of 990,000
pursuant to NJSA4A col4-53H for the payment of contractually required severance liabilities of the township Batunic in the county of Bergen state of New Jersey and then ordinance 39-2025
amending section 36-11.2 two of chapter 36 of the township code for the township of Tene adding a restricted on street parking space for handicap parking at 90 992 Allen Court. >> Okay. Uh this hearing is now open just
for the um for to the public. It'll just be on these two ordinances 38 and 39. With that said, is there anyone in the public that like to speak about that? Councilman Zone, former Councilman Zone, Tina President, um uh I'm speaking in support of
ordinance 382025, which covers an emergency appropriation of $990,000. Uh in roughly the same way, uh that if there was a pile of poop in the middle of the council chambers, I would want it to be cleaned up. Uh, but with this ordinance and with the pile No, it's already cleaned up. As with the pile of
poop, I'd want to know how did it happen? Why did it happen? Who's the mystery pooper? What can we do to prevent this from happening again? Um, my wife and I are largely retired and we have the gift of being able to retire at this age because we did this program of
setting aside money in previous years so that we would have that money later on. Uh we got the advice from a financial planner to do that. Uh everybody does that. Everybody should be doing that. The $990,000 is covered this evening is
for accumulated leave. Um we knew that these people would eventually be retiring. Uh and there is a huge amount of money that is outstanding for those retirements. Uh the audit report on page 60 uh says that there's 12.9 million in
accumulated leave liability. that's available to this township. Uh we had an opportunity to set aside money and I assume that just as our financial planner did uh that your CFOs, your township managers, your auditors have been telling you that you should be
setting aside money for this. But let me give you an even worse example. We were setting aside money for this. Uh during my time on council as a former councilman, uh I spent $2 million uh allocated towards accumulated leave in
20 2017 and 2018 there was $700,000 set aside each year. In 2019, that amount was cut to $1. $1. The actual amount accumulated spent on that accumulated leave was
$1,340,000. We didn't need to add something in. we just needed to keep in there and set aside money that we had already been in the budget and instead that $700,000 was used to claim that we were cutting
expenditures. Shifting expenditures and moving them to debt is part of what has caused the problem here. Uh later on tonight, there will be resolution 308 which covers $35 million in bond anticipation notes. This
is just a small part of that. We have hund almost hundred million dollars uh in the budget ahead. I had a chance to attend the the manager's budget meetings and again many of the items in the budget are going to be even higher than expected. Next year may be more than
14%. It may be 15 16 17 18%. This is just a small example of why not leaving things in the budget you're going to pay the price now or pay it later and tuck residents are going to pay that price next year.
Thank you very in the audience on these ordinances only. Seeing no other hands, Mr. Clerk, do we have anyone on Zoom on these ordinances? We do not. That said, this hearing is now closed. Any comments on that before we call for roll call? >> Um, Mr. Mayor, I'd like to discuss uh 38 for a minute. >> Yes,
>> I can vote on 39 and we can come back to 38 or whichever. I'm fine. Whichever the clerk prefers. >> I can't hear. I'm sorry. >> 30. The mic's the floor is yours. Go ahead. Um based on um what former council uh Councilman S said, what's our
plan to stop this? >> Absolutely not. This has been discussed for about 30 years since the hiring. Um and it's very simple. The set aides for the salary and maybe if the manager wanted to chime in was not done since day one of the hiring. The state um the
state laws have changed for new hireies. I forget how many we're down to with the significant buyouts. I think we have five or six left. Um, every single year, um, Councilman Katz perhaps or probably for decades now. We do have the same conversation. And it's simple. We could
take money from everyone today, put it aside, and pay for retiree in five years that was hired 30 years ago. Or when that retiree chooses to retire, we can take his payout of the five or six left, borrow it at a reduced fund and a
reduced amount, and I forget the amount that the state allows for it. And this council year after year after year before I was even in this town in the 90s made that decision to do that and the laws have only changed to our favor. So we're not going to tax everyone in
this town now to set aside unless there's people on this uh on the st that want to make that motion. Now with all due respect and we had this last time you refused to vote for the budget. you refused to vote for a budget that taxed X and now you want to say I don't want
to vote to increase the budget, but I want to vote to add more to the budget. So, if you'd like to make that motion, you're absolutely that's absolutely your >> I want to know how much interest our residents are going to pay on the $12.9 million of our exposed liability and how
we're going to plan for it when it if it potentially hits in one year because that's what we have right now. $12.9 million. It's in the 2024 audit. It's 12.9. So you make that audit. We have $12.9 million in liability and that
could hit next year that could hit in 10 years. How much interest are they going to pay for it? And how is funding a trust that was funded in 20 as of 208? >> Uh the borrowing I'm asking a question. Borrowing with interest is not >> okay. So I'm not going to answer your
question. You're either going to make the motion to tax the residents or you're not because the last motion to tax the residents was a budget that you refused to vote for. So either make the motion >> wasn't there. So I wasn't there. >> Is there is there a mo are you making a motion?
>> I asking the question for the whole governing body to have a discussion because that's what our residents deserve. >> Absolutely. We had the discussion now. Everyone could chime in. We can have it every budget meeting, every meeting as we've had for decades. So >> Okay. So if $12.9 million hits, what are we just going to keep going until we hit
10 million in severance liability? >> Until until these these are employees that earned their time and until the state changed the rules and can the state did change the rules. So those we have existing employees that get very hefty payouts of time they deserve though when when they fully retire that
will drop down to zero. But right now >> how much are we paying in interest on top of that? >> I'm not paying anything in interest. I'm a res. Last time we paid we paid five 5% in interest last year. The year before was 4.3. So this year I don't know we're going on the market. >> What's the difference?
>> Make the motion to tax the residents >> or make the motion to approve the ordinance. >> I'm asking a question. I'm having a discussion if motion making a motion. I'm asking a question. Having a discussion with the full governing body. >> Anybody else want to answer that question or have the conversation?
Seeing no other hands, I'll make a motion to approve ordinance 38 of 2025 and 39 of 25. Mr. Cler, call the roll call please. Second. Is there a second on that? Thank you. M cler, call the roll call. >> Councilwoman Goldberg,
>> abstain. >> Councilman Pagan, >> yes. >> Councilwoman Jake, >> yes. >> Councilman Katz. >> Deputy Mayor Belure, >> yes. >> Deputy Mayor, yes. Mayor Schwarz, >> abstain.
Okay. Um, those are approved. Um, meeting open to good and welfare. Three minutes on any topic you'd like. We voted on both those. I made the motion for both and it was second for both. And I abstain them. Um, handy. Yeah, I understand. Handicap
parking. It's most um good and welfare. Uh, in more than three minutes, Dr. Yuck. Mr. Bloom, you're next. Good evening, Philly resident. I'm going to read a statement from the leadership of the Northwest of Cedar Lane
Neighborhood Association leadership. We, the Northwest of Cedar Lane Neighborhood Association leadership team appreciate the modifications Crossroads has made to the Beverly Road American Legion Drive redevelopment plan. However, we feel it does not address the
most important aspect of development in Teneck. That is the revitalization of our business districts as discussed in the township's master plan and as presented by a township resident and professional planner and everybody on on
the day saw that report. uh proceeding with proceeding with the crossroads plan as presented will styy any possibility of development on Cedar Lane. Buildings uh building C's current design will permanently limit the redevelopment
potential of the retail frontage. There will not be sufficient area to replace existing businesses with viable contemporary retail on Cedar Lane between Garrison Avenue and Windsor Road. We urge the council to consider building from the business district back
rather than build into it as the current proposal does. We are not opposed to development or increasing the availability of moderate income housing. What we are concerned about is is one-off proposals that do not cohhere with the wishes of our residents to
maintain TX suburban character. We want to expand affordable housing availability and create a vibrant and attractive business district that fits well into our community. We urge the council to take a more comprehensive approach to development in Tene by
tableabling this proposal and moving forward with a more encompassing plan that addresses both housing and business needs. Thank you. So, >> thank you very much, Shaky. >> I'll come. I'm not done. >> Oh, sorry. >> I still have a minute. So, that's from the leadership of the of the Northwest
of Cedar Lane um neighborhood association. I just want to say um I want to talk about flooding uh as a resident. So, as you as you know, we had a fairly big storm about a week and a half ago, two weeks ago, and Bell Avenue
flooded after all that was done in the park. Bell Avenue flooded. Now, uh I don't I was at my gym during the storm, so I don't know how bad the storm was compared to what happened on September 1st, but um of 2021. Uh but I suspect
this was not as as bad a storm as that. So, as far as I know, the water did not go into people's basements this time, but I'm wondering what's going to happen. I don't know if the bio swells will be enough or if there's anything if there's a problem in the system in the park. Um and maybe Jackie can tell us
about that. Um uh but I'm still concerned about the future uh of flooding in the Bell Avenue area. Thank you. >> Thank you, Yakyak. Mr. Berliner, >> Avi Berliner, Tene resident, I can tell you that most this past month, we
actually asked about that storm because we met shortly thereafter. We had the engineer there. I cannot speak for her, but she said that while there was water on the streets, she was not aware of any reports of any water in people's basement. So, if that still holds true, that does sound to be an improvement. So, >> Mr. Williams will address the council.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I I apologize. Uh, two items just for clarification. Um, one is PPE related. Uh it's good to hear that the insurance uh is still the same and it's good to hear that the current manager gave a consistent report of the as the deputy manager back in February in 2024
when PPE asked is there any insurance implications for the skate park and the report came back that it is negligible. So it's good to see that that is still uh consistent with regards to uh the fields advisory board. I know the comment was brought up
before you were all here. You all heard when we presented uh back at the end of February of this year that one of the vendors uh that we spoke with at the direction of council along with the department of recreation and the DPW uh mentions that they do not use PAS. They
do not use microplastics and that's because they actually sell uh for professional fields and stadiums in Europe and that's part of the required uh laws over there. That's something that we very much we weren't necessarily looking into at the time, but we found to be very compelling for that
particular vendor. Again, ultimate selection is in the hands of council. Uh, at the end of the summer, I received an email from someone, I think maybe from the environmental commission. It did not come from the environmental commission raising concerns. Uh, I guess it was 7 months after that initial
presentation. Uh, shared with them the information that we did have. I said that I would always be more than happy to have that conversation with them over a cup of coffee, whatever they preferred. I never did hear back and we did make the councilwoman aware uh of that uh email and that conversation uh
when we spoke about it at PP last week I think it was and actually the PP representative to uh the fields advisory board was there to confirm that. So thank you very much you >> Mr. Anybody else new or would you like to speak? Tori,
first time speaking, I believe, right? Welcome to Tene. >> Thanks. >> Well, I'm Tori Marino. I moved to Tene three years ago. I'm 42. I have a young son and honestly, I needed my parents' help to move here and buy a house. But I
chose Tene because I wanted a walkable downtown where my son could grow with independence. But when I walk down Cedar Lane, I don't see a thriving business district bustling with people. And neighbors keep telling me stories like, "You should have seen Cedar Lane back in the day. It used to be so vibrant." And I keep wondering what happened. So I
started asking questions and I keep hearing similar stories. There are aging homeowners living in homes that are too big. They want to stay in Tene but want to downsize. And then there are young families in need of that two or threebedroom home who can't find anything affordable. And these two
groups could help each other, but when people look at their options in Tene, they discover that there really aren't any. The housing choices just are not there. Tene's own master plan shows this mismatch. Half of our households are just one or two people, but 75% of our
housing stock is single family homes. Our population is aging. We've seen a 24% increase in residents over 60 in the last decade. So, when housing needs change, parents age, adult children want to stay close to family, young teachers or firefighters want to live in town, families need a little extra income,
regular homeowners can't respond. Why? Because our zoning codes go from single family homes straight to buildings with up to 12 units. Nothing in between, no gentle options. That's 75% of Tene, over 10,000 properties that can't evolve to
meet changing needs. But the only people that can build in most of Tene would be large developers with big budgets and legal teams. And this is actually a nationwide story. After World War II, towns across America and Tene included adopted zoning codes that make it illegal for neighborhoods to grow
gradually. We separated everything into rigid categories. Only houses here, only businesses there, and nothing in between. So now, when only large developers can navigate our system, we get large projects. Large projects create the opposition and controversy we've all seen. So what if we gave
residents more options? What if housing in Tenic could grow incrementally? Not through massive projects that concentrate change in one neighborhood, but through many small choices by many homeowners. Organizations like Strong Towns call this incremental development. The idea is simple. Change should be
gradual and shared. No neighborhood experiences radical transformation, but no neighborhood stays frozen in time either. It's how towns used to grow gradually organically through choices made by people who actually live in the community. So, some neighbors and I who
share a love for this town started an organization called Strongtowns Tene. We want to work with the council, with residents, anyone who cares about TX's future to figure out what barriers exist in our code. How do we create more housing? How do we make building easier? Now, right now, only large developers can afford the costs and navigate the
complexity of shaping how Tene grows, and we think residents deserve more choices, and Tene's future requires more options. Uh, strongtowns tenegmail.com if you're interested, and I'll be back in December with more. >> Thank you very much, um, Albert
>> Emmer Ramson, Tina resident. So, uh, I'd just like to follow up on Argon Park, specifically those tennis courts. Caught some flak this weekend from my sister since, uh, they were closed. They definitely should be open, especially from previous council meetings. I thought we just had punch list items.
So, just formally, do we know what caused a delay? Can we can the township claim penalties against those delays if it's really on the contractor's side? Do we have an official date for the courts to be reopened? what exactly needs to be done as far as punch list
goes. And I I did happen to send an email to the the manager about that damaged fence. Does that come out of insurance or is that a change order we need to pay or how does that get repaired? Now, uh with regards to municipal taxes, is there any
information that the council can share? Can you elaborate on any increases? What are we looking at pointwise? I 12, 13, 14, 15. Are we going up? Are we going down? Are we still in the double digits? What can be cut from the budget? If
you're looking for suggestions, no more capital projects. I think we we're done with parks and any kind of improvements. It's it's getting kind of tricky now to balance all of this. You can't enjoy a park if you get priced out of town. It just doesn't make sense. Now, my usual
uh topic is a green building. I'm still asking the council to adopt a green building code. It'll complement our master plan and helps ensure we have environmentally friendly and sustainable building standards. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Anybody else in the room like to speak?
>> Councilman Son and Mr. Rogman afterwards. Still former Councilman Alan S. Um the last I heard from the budget from our CFO was that the estimate was increase of 14.4% for 2026 uh followed by 16.7%
the following year. These were baseline assumptions and some of those facts have changed. Uh the amount of borrowing has increased which adds another quarter of a point. I had the opportunity to attend several of the manager's budget hearings and get reports from some of the others and there's been a tremendous amount of
delayed maintenance uh delayed attention to details that have just been impossible to do because of lack of funding in previous budgets. Uh that has come to roost. Uh the state health benefit plan has announced that they're going to have a mindblowing increase in
the cost of health care. Uh that's also going to top that up. So the question of how did we get here has to be asked. When I passed budgets in 2014 for through the years 14, 15, 16, 17, and 18, there was a total of nearly $2
million to cover termally. It has never been zero. Uh other than in recent years, uh there has been money set aside. And one of the best ways to do that is to leave money in the budget, to not take it out of the budget and allow
that money to accumulate. so that as tax appeals come in, uh, as snowfalls, as people retire, that we have the money already in the budget to cover at least a significant portion of that. Kneck has one of the lowest percentages of money
available to cover terminal leave relative to the size of its terminal leave, accumulated leave amount as reported in the audit. uh we do have an opportunity to do to make some changes but I think we need to look at a at a total picture and a very very big picture. How are we going to change
this? How are taxpayers going to pay an increase of $750 800 $900 next year followed by what could be $1,000 increase the following year? That's not the price of doing business. That's the price of not doing the work of crafting
budgets. That's the price of not having priorities. That's the price of not presenting to the public an honest budget that covers the expenses that increase at a minimum 2% for most employees and other things each year. Those 0% budgets have come to roost and
now it's the time to pay them. How are we going to do that? How is any council member going to look a taxpayer in the face and say, "No, no, no. It's your responsibility in one year after another to cover $800 to $1,000 more on the
average home. Those people who had the biggest campaign signs for some candidates are going to be paying the biggest increases, several thousand dollar per year. Every family is going to be hit hard. And again, the question of how we got this point, it's through
neglect. It's through shifting things to debt. is through not setting aside the money we need to cover our bills. Thank you Paula Rego. um on yesterday at the Tene International Film Festival, we showed the uh film plastic people and it it's a
it's a kind of a scare more than scary film about microlastics in the human body and um I would just like to propose that we ask the festival to show that film again so that members of the council and various committees the parks
committee and so on see that film because this is about a real significant issue um very dangerous uh problem that we face and that we can confront we can deal with it. Um, on a
different topic, um, at the zoning, uh, subcommittee in October, we heard the newest plans for crossroads development, and the newest plan had a a four-story building in the L-shaped municipal parking lot, an American
Legion Legion Drive, our parking lot, another fourstory apartment building at the end of Stop and Shops parking lot, and yet another three-story apartment building north of Cedar Lane and a parking garage in the location of the farmers market. I was going to say that
this new plan was shocking, but I'm not shocked. There were forums where many many many residents from the entire town voiced strong opposition to the declaration of the stop and shop
area both north and south of Cedar Lane as ARS areas in need of redevelopment and then proceeded to give away our municipal parking lots to developers. We expressed our concerns about those
municipal parking lots, about excessive traffic, flooding north and south of Cedar Lane, parking and and environmental issues. Then there were meetings where the coalition of neighborhood associations with some council members where we
discussed a proposal for apartment buildings and stores on the north side of Cedar Lane um between Garrison and Windsor. It was as if none of this happened. Yes, the size of the buildings in the
new proposal, the size was smaller, but most of the other concerns that we had were ignored in the new plan. The same thing happened for the northeast uh residents in the northeast of T-neck, where residents turned out and mass to oppose the
high-rise developments. Again, concerns were totally ignored as we can see in this new plan to address affordable housing. We saw in the recent elections around the country that people want our concerns to be addressed by elected
officials. We will not stand by and allow our municipal property to be given away. We won't stand by and allow areas that are perfectly fine to be declared areas in need of redevelopment. >> Thank you very much. Anybody else in the room when I speak? Seeing no other
hands. Mr. Clerk, can you take over on Zoom please? >> We have a few people this evening. Mayor, we are bringing in Chuck Powers. C, >> can you hear me? >> Hear you loud and clear. Three minutes. >> Chuck Powers, T-C. Um, I thank the uh
township attorney for his brief explanation of the proposed ordinance 41 2025. It is however very confusing in terms of
the way in which the the uh amendments are enumerated and they would seem to be um not fully coordinated with the actual way in which the rest of that existing
ordinance that important ordinance from last November um uh are laid out. I have a feeling that in order for us to understand what the new ordinance will
actually look like, like we need to see how the entire ordinance would incorporate these amendments and not just the small pieces of it which appear in what will be introduced tonight as
412025. I'd like to say one other thing. Perhaps the most important piece from the point of view of transparency among all of those who are concerned with development, as you can hear, people
certainly are again tonight, is to know that in fact a provision in the ordinance passed last November, sorry, now that's December, December 10th says all applicable,
sorry, all application materials shall be made publicly available at least 10 days prior to the actual hearing or on that application.
It is unclear with the way in which the new amendment is written out for tonight whether or not that very important provision I believe it is still there. But that that really depends upon how
section one in the in the amendment relates to the sections one through three in the original ordinance. I think it's important that there be a red
definition of that complete ordinance so that we can see just what remains and what has been changed. Thank you very much. >> I'm sorry. Before we move on, Mr. May, may I ask Dr. >> Well, we we answer at the end. Sorry.
Okay. Uh Mr. Clerk, what next? >> We have Keith Kaplan. Hello. Can you hear me? >> Loud and clear, sir. Three minutes. >> Keith Kaplan, Tenic resident. I'd like to bring your attention to the
resolution in our packet uh dealing with uh tax payments, specifically uh stopping any cash tax payments for items that are uh over $50. Uh did a little bit of digging and I'd like you to take
note of three numbers. One is $189 million. That's how much the uh tax department brings in over the course of the year. Uh the other is $1 million. That's the amount that they bring in in cash. And the other is the percentage.
It's half of 1% of the work that they do. It's not a lot. Now, based on the amount that they bring in, there might be some logistical challenges. If someone walks in with 20, 30, 40, $50,000 in cash, I could understand why,
you know, that might be concerning. But if a senior on a fixed income walks in with $87 because they were short in the amount they sent in and it's the last day, are we really going to say no because you're above the $50 threshold?
is not taking cash. The thing that we're about at the tax counter when we take cash at the building department, the health department, the courthouse, we went and put an ATM in our building at considerable expense just so that people
would be able to access cash to use in our building. And now it seems that we're telling people that cash is not good for transactions that they're doing in our building. I would humbly suggest that the council instead of making a ban
on transactions over $50, if you're interested in a ban because large amounts are unwieldy, perhaps a amount in excess of $5,000 or you know the average of u the average home's payment
for a quarter might be something that you don't want that much cash coming in at once. But to take people on a fixed income, to take people that are, you know, trying to get in on the deadline and tell them, "No, we're not going to take cash from you." Seems a little too
close to uh, you know, the things that we try to steer against. Uh, I understand the reason for not wanting to take cash. You know, there's a lot of headaches it can bring along with it, but the way that this one's being implemented seems like it's going to
hurt a very small subset of people. Not me. Mine's paid through my bank through the mortgage payments, but it is going to, you know, come back and hit some people, especially when there are late fees attached after that. I uh humbly suggest you reconsider how it's being
implemented. Thank you. Daryl Green. >> Hi, good evening. I'd like to address panel truck advertising. Um, as you know, that's become very popular, but panel truck advertising can
sometimes be a distraction, especially at night. I'd like to ask councelor to consider the application go through some type of permit that be attached and also possibly an a designated route for these
trucks because if this were a planning board I mean these things for all practical sake it's a movable it's a moving sign this can be possibly an accident waiting to happen for drivers who would view
these trucks um I like to ask possibly a designated route and this um you know just pretty much you know we look at it like that. So hopefully council can consider such a thing that when we have panel truck advertising especially
during election time which becomes very popular and sound levels that are pretty much hit at night that can sometimes be disturbing. We look at possibly having an application that has a permit attached. Thank you.
Thank you, Darl. We have Hildy Dylan. >> Good evening, everyone. Um first of all Avi um I I um will be sending you a recommendation uh to you and to PP um RA
the uh advisory board for parks recreation and um about artificial turf versus grass turf. We do know that there is an art artificial turf field where there was much discussion as you said
about it. It was eventually approved to go forward. Our appeal really is for the safety of children um and for the future uh and to not use artificial turf in the future. the resident that you're talking
about that sent you a letter um kind of preempted the discussion that took place at the last meeting which was held in October of the environmental commission. We put together this recommendation. We've been refining the language and the
um independent scientific resources that we have si cited um the re and we do have the resources that you had sent to the resident which were actually um data that came from the companies that produced the turf surface
that um Tene is using. Um and we think that we should also be looking at independent scientific research. So, we're really talking about the future. Um, and it's not an attack. We want to have a discussion, a collegial discussion looking at the science to
discuss the best options for our children moving forward if there are fields that you're considering uh replacing or improving uh with turf grass. Um, so I hope that we can have that collegial discussion. Uh the
environmental commission has approved this to go through. That was almost two weeks ago and I need to get it out to you and to the uh PP RAV uh team as well. And I will copy council so that they're aware of what we're
recommending. Um, also, uh, Mayor Schwarz, uh, the, uh, Atlantic Coast Recycling is the company that is now once again after the fire that they had, they had they did rebuild. Um, it's my
understanding through discussions with um, our superintendent of the DPW that our recycling is now going back to Atlantic. Um, I think it would be fascinating for the town to be looking to demand from uh Atlantic because they
are a vendor that we're paying to sort and sell our recycling materials uh to see how much is actually going to companies that that uh sell and repurpose those materials and how much
is going to landfill. So, I'm in total support of doing that. Thank you. Thank you very much. No one else on Zoom. We'll close good and welfare. Um before we start, I I do apologize. We were going to have a moment of silence before the meeting, but we were all into
the poetry that we um forgot. Alion Wilson um was the owner of the Pre nail bar nail salon on Cedar Lane. She's also the general counsel, the council general for Jamaica and interestingly enough for
a significant amount of other smaller um smaller countries in the Caribbean that she represented. Uh she lived in River Edge. She had her um she had two stores on Cedar Lane and regrettably she just passed away young this past week I believe. So with that, um just like I take a moment of silence, um in her in
her memory, >> thank you. Um Mr. Attorney, did you want to address anything before we go down? >> I just wanted to ask Dr. Powers a question. Uh Doug, if you can get him back on, that that'd be great. Um the the question about uh general ordinance 41-2025
I just I was having trouble following at one point was the request that the so this includes essentially one section uh I'll say one subsection of section uh 33-45 of the code uh subsection B um was
the request that we include the the full the full ordinance essentially instead of just that one part Um, so we're not going to call him back on. >> Okay. >> Um, that's not gonna happen, but we can more than welcome to email him offline and if your suggestion that we pull it.
>> No, no, it's fine. >> Well, we're going to introduce it and then if and then if he corresponds back and there's some, you know, word smithing or whatever it is, then by all means, let us know. >> Yep. >> Excellent. Thank you. Okay. Um, with that, we'll turn to um council. Is there any council members that would like to speak?
>> Mr. Mayor, council. Yeah, please go ahead. >> I'm going to be really um short. Um, I'm going to defer to the >> mic to the mic, please. To the mic. >> Sorry. Sorry. I'm going to be short. I'm going to defer to the affordable housing subcommittee and zoning subcommittee on the development questions, but I just wanted to address Mr. Green. Um, thank
you. I do fully uh support a permit requirement for the box trucks in the first draft of the noise nuisance ordinance that uh was that tried to get introduced in March and this year did include that. So, I would support and I would hope that my colleagues support an amendment to the code to update the
nuisance section to include that requirement for a permit for the box trucks. I do think it's a driver safety issue. So, Mr. Green, thank you for raising it and I do fully support it. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Uh, Mr. Clerk, if you could just list um under council listed for deputy Councilwoman Goldberg and myself for the box trucks for next
meeting. >> Um, okay. Before I get to you, anyone else? We'll go right to deputy mayor Belure then. >> Okay. Just a couple points. Just want to mention that um uh the just to remind people the never alone uh again resource
center in partnership with the council in terms of collecting um u non-p perishable um items in three locations here um also at the the ua center and the library. So um we really have residents that are that are in need and
we want to make sure that we do every whatever we can to uh support of it of them and uh and so forth. I just want to mention uh Miss Tori's comment about middle middle income and I would say middle middle type of housing. Um during
the crafting of our master plan, we did address this. We looked at you know what what can we do in terms of housing that is not just um multi-unit mult multifloor um develop developments within town. So
that middle income, middle type of housing can speak to two to four families. Um but uh I just want to mention that our ADU uh ordinance was intended to speak to alternative types of housing. So um that's something to
look at. And um Councilman Song, I just want to mention that yes, you're absolutely right. The 10 years of 0% budget increases uh is coming home to roost. It is causing us to have to solve for some serious questions about it. Uh we have um stood up some um budget
meetings and we're going to continue to do that because we know that we're faced with certain um serious decisions that have to be made. But um uh absolutely our decisions that we make um today impacts um our children, you know, and
and we have to be cognizant of of that for sure from a budgetary um perspective. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. I'll address a few comments. Um Tori, in terms of the incremental development, I think keeping in mind that ADUs is is a valuable tool. Um converting much of existing single
family home zoning to allow for two family homes is that I think where you where you were getting with that. Um that's a very um touchy subject that I'm sure we'll hear about more in the future. Um keep in mind that does incur increase a significant amount of traffic and kids in the school which of course
is the excuse that everyone in the that would like to use. So, I definitely understand your desires and I look forward to hearing more and um I actually heard of a recent two recent ADU applications or people told me about it. So, I'm excited to see if those get built. Um I think we need to discuss
um being honest with ourselves. we can't come up here and I'm gonna try to say this with as much respect, but I think this hypocrisy and and I don't mean that in a rude way, but when we talk about um we want to not do capital projects because of taxes, and I definitely understand that desire, but then we talk
about making new rules for green buildings, which take construction costs and sky and skyrocket them. So, are we looking to increase the cost of building that's just going to increase um expenses? um and the developer is not going to be able to afford that and
we're not going to have the new revenue to offset additional um increases and it's something you and I have discussed about my hesitency about green about green building in general. Um, as it relates to the overall tax questions, I'm not sure if you saw the application to the financial aid financial advisory
task force. Um, but if you didn't, I don't know if the applications are still open or not, but if you can maybe speak to, um, deputy mayor offline, but we do have some people looking at the future budgets, and I think it's something you'd find interesting. Um, Councilman S, uh, you you discussed two also
complete opposite requests. leave money in the budget, but then it's also now it's, you know, we we have to work on our reducing our budget increases. Leaving money in the budget first means you have to add the money to the budget. So, if we want to take next year's
increase, add millions to it to offset something in the future, we still increased our budget. And what we did in is we stripped the budget down to zero year after year after year. No matter what the future feelings on number are, and they will be seen, eight years of
zero are nowhere near what a 7% one year, 2% last year equal. I will stand by those eight years of zero because of one word, compounding. Compounding 2 to 3% for eight straight years instead of zero, which be a tens of thousands of
dollars or more for people that had the high or the big signs for me in their in their lawn. So, I stand by our zero that we delivered and I look forward to working on this year's budget with our committee with our adviserss and again, Mr. Mr. Councilman Stone, please feel
free to join um the financial aid task force as well. We'd love to have you. Um that being said, um Mr. Clerk, if you can take over, Miss Clerk, if you can take over as we go to the consent agendas. >> Okay.
So for consent agenda, we have one raffle license, two sets of minutes, resolution numbers 300-20225 to316-2025 and a billless in the amount of 18,618,89255. >> We have a motion. Motion,
>> Mr. Mayor, I would like to pull 30025, that's the council meeting schedule, and 30825 please. >> So pulled. Is there a motion for everything else? >> I'll move. >> All right. So, moved by Councilwoman G and seconded by >> Goldberg.
>> Deputy Mayor Belure. Roll call, please. >> Councilwoman Goldberg. >> Um, wait. Yes to all except for no on 310, the budget transfers, and abstain on the bills list.
>> Okay. Councilman Fagan. >> Yes. Councilwoman Jig, >> yes. >> Councilman Katz, >> Deputy Mayor Belter, >> yes. >> Deputy Mayor Organ, >> yes. >> And Mayor Schwarz, >> yes. Council McGover 300, 2022, and the
clerk's um the author of it. So, >> yeah. No, I know. Um so, that's the 2026 council meeting schedule for anyone that doesn't have the um in front of them, just so transparency. So based on the schedule, when is uh the budget being introduced?
There's two budget meetings. It's a for forecasting a 14 to 16% tax increase. I'm not clear when the budget is being introduced based on the schedule. >> I'll address that. We don't really we don't have that answer yet. We haven't even done a budget yet. We haven't looked at a budget yet. We do have the
input in the budget meetings that we're down to. We're putting in two right now. There's uh four meetings in March and we'll see where we go from there as we do every single year. Well, it's two budget meetings, not four. It's four meetings, but two specific budget meetings. I just think that a 14% tax
increase deserves more than two meetings. So, I would like to move to amend this um to add a workshop either in late January, early February, so that way we don't interfere with holidays before the introduction so that way we are actually hearing from the public and each other to make sure that the final
introduction takes into account the uh public input and governing body's input. >> Second. >> Okay. And I guess comment on that and before we have the roll call is we love and he listened to our residents every single meeting every single day. Uh we have quite a bit of meetings in the last
few years. I think council felt and discussed that our budget meetings were um presentations and no more and there was two or three people the 41,000 people know how to reach us. We take into consideration all their comments all the time. Literally 20 18 hours a
day for me. I don't do six hours of sleep. Um, so I don't see a need to um add more meetings at this time, but I'm sure if everyone else wants to, they may vote for it. So with that said, there's no more comments. >> I have a comment. Yes, please. >> And we had um we tried to do this in
September. We had a workshop. I think we added in and we didn't have any information. So it was nice for everyone to get together. We spoke for an hour. We we um threw some ideas around, but until the CFO and the manager are ready and we get the figures in, there's
nothing for us to start discussing. The reason why we brought it down to two meetings is because we don't need that initial presentation with the pie charts anymore. We hear it year after year. We don't need the presentations by the department heads. That first meeting was
more um ceremonial, but again, there were no figures there. We got the budget books and we went home. So, we were just trying to streamline it. We all discussed it at that meeting to see if um we can really get down to the numbers and talk about that. And if we have the numbers earlier and we want to put a
workshop on the calendar, that's fine. But I I think it's premature to do it now. >> Um I just wanted to make sure the public was aware that there are with the addition of the two budget meetings, there are four total council meetings in the month of March. I would like to suggest if we need additional discussion
time, why don't we add it to our standing meetings on the 10th and the 31st so that we don't have to add more meetings, add more staff time. We can just weave it into an existing meeting and we would still be meeting four times that month. >> Excellent. >> I think a 14% tax increase deserves its
own meeting. I was just going to comment that maybe maybe we need to really uh you know reinvision uh how we want to the presentation to happen rather than sitting here and letting listening to the department heads um perhaps we we make we craft a meeting that's more of a
working session so that we can have a Q&A and and and so forth and I do agree that we do need data in order for us to be you know proactive in terms of uh you know addressing we you know we don't know what we don't know until we we have that data So, um I I I partly agree with
um with uh Councilwoman um Goldberg, but also with the uh deputy mayor in terms of uh we do need data. Uh and if we do have that data, I it may morph into having another another meeting scheduled. Thank you.
>> Deputy Mayor Belture, would you um I didn't actually mention anything about the I'm asking Deputy Mayor's question. >> There's other people waiting to speak. I I appreciate what everybody is saying because I do know that a budget is a living breathing thing that always gets changed. But I think there is a a motion
and a second on the floor which requires a vote unless of course the person who made the main motion withdraws. >> Pull the roll call please. >> I wanted to motion to add two additional meetings to the March to uh >> or one I'm okay with what deputy mayor
Belure said that's why I wanted to ask her a question. Deputy Mayor Belchure I didn't say anything about the department had meetings. Are you okay with amending to add one meeting so that we have that community input to hear the community, not necessarily two and have that on the calendar given the uh extent of the uh
increase? I'm okay with amending the motion to one meeting to add it to three instead of four. >> I'm okay with that assuming we have data that we can, you know, proactively speak to the community about. >> Okay. So, so can we amend it to add one
a third meeting then instead of two? I think either earlier or February. I don't want to hit into the holidays. This way it's early and it doesn't have to be the department head meeting, but this way our so I'll amend my motion to to one meeting. >> Yeah, I'm not supportive of additional meetings at this point. I I just think
it's premature. We don't know what's going to happen. We don't even know if that's the time we're going to want the additional meetings. >> I think we should just wait and see. We can only add or remove. >> So, Councilman Goldberg made amends her motion for one. Is there a second for one? And so, second for one by Counciloman
>> against. Well, and you'll have your chance to read the roll call. I fully agree with um roll call on that, please. Mr. Clerk, or Mr. Clerk, >> to add a meeting to March, there was a motion from Councilwoman Goldberg and a second from Councilman Gan. Counciloman Goldberg, >> yes. >> Counciloman Bean,
>> yes. >> Councilwoman G, >> no. >> Councilman Katz, >> no. >> Deputy Mayor Boucher, >> yes. >> Mayor Oregon, >> no. >> Mayor Schwarz, >> no. >> Okay. Is there a motion to move 32025? >> Can you explain it? I'll make the motion just based on rules, but
>> Thank you. You explain what? I'm sorry. >> Can we Can someone explain it? It was only added just recently. >> This is the um resol. The calendar. >> It's just to the calendar. >> Yeah. No, >> I'm sorry. Okay.
>> Okay. There is a now second council Goldberg's motion. Please, Mr. Clerk, if you call the roll call. >> Councilwoman Goldberg. >> No. >> Oh, wait. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. We are doing your >> 300. No, we're doing >> No, it's now it's the I made the motion
to move it because I I pulled it. So, and then Mayor Schwarz seconded it. >> 300 of 2025. >> Yeah. >> Ordinance was moved by Councilwoman Goldberg and is seconded by me. She's moving what she originally pulled. That's all she >> Okay. Okay. Yeah, that's 300. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Counciloman
Goldberg. >> No. >> Councilman Gan. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman G. >> Yes. >> Councilman Katz. >> Yes. >> Deputy Mayor Belchure. >> Yes. Deputy Mayor Oregon. >> Yes. >> Mayor Schwarz. >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Next. 30 308 was pulled.
>> Um, do we have a plan? I know the CFO kind of >> sort of mentioned this earlier today about converting the the short-term uh bonds into permanent debt. What's the timeline on that? Do we have one? >> Can Can you repeat that question one
more time, Council? What's our plan for um converting the short-term bond notes into permanent debt? >> Doug, I defer to Issa. He's on. >> We got our CFO on. >> Good e good
evening mayor and council. Uh, as I alluded to in my email earlier today, there is scheduled a significant drop, off the top of my head, 665 or so thousands in terminal leave payments and the COVID loan coming off our books January 1st of 2027.
Um, the financial advisor, auditor and I are in discussions hopefully for 2027 to issue a bond, but as everyone knows, things are very fluid. Um, you know, interest rates change from month to month depending on the political climate
and we are monitoring it but we have been typically issuing bonds every three or so years. It also depends on the rate and we also may retire some of those bond anticipation notes um possibly
in 2027 not all of them. So it all depends on a multitude of factors but it is on our um on the forefront of our minds. Um, while we have you, do we know what the interest rates are? I know that the market's been coming down. I know last year was 5% then 4.6. What's the mark? What are we looking at with the interest rate for this?
>> I could pull that up in a moment, but we are hopeful based on recent sales to get something in the range of roughly two and a half to 3% give or take. And again, that still could change because that was as of November 3rd. Um, and by
the time we do go out for sale, it would be mid December. So, a lot of things can change in those 45 days. >> And then that you mentioned the COVID loan. So, that that's in January and then it's going to be one more year or it's done after 2025. I wasn't clear.
>> No. So, 2026 is the last year of the COVID special emergency at I believe it's $438,000 a year. Uh, and next year is also the last year of the 2021 terminal leave. Um,
yes, correct. So, that's why starting in the 27 budget, you'll have about $665,000, if I remember correctly, um, of funding available that we could use then to refinance those notes into bonds and pay down more bond principle.
>> Can I just request for whenever this does happen, um, that you come back, uh, just let us know what the interest rate is on this so we know. Yes, we typically do that, but I'll make sure that as soon as we finalize the rate and award that council is made privy to the results. >> Thank you.
>> You're welcome. >> Uh I'm done. If anyone else has any questions, but I'm going to I'll move it if nobody else doesn't. >> I'll second 308. Mr. Clerk or Mr. Clerk, if you can call the role on 308 motion by Goldberg, second by Schwarz. >> Councilwoman Goldberg.
>> No. Councilman Pagan. >> Yes. Councilwoman Jay, >> yes. >> Councilman Katz, >> yes. >> Deputy Mayor Belchure, >> yes. >> Deputy Mayor Oregon, >> yes. >> Mayor Schwarz, >> yes. That being said, I think we now go to the introduction of ordinances.
>> Yes, Mr. Oh, sorry. You >> No, that's the one I needed to have you explain. >> Okay. So, we'll start before any questions, you will read in ordinances. Mrs. Clerk, >> second one. Where's the second one? >> We have three ordinances for introduction. First one's going to be
orange 40-2025 amending section 36-11.2 two of chapter 36 of the township code for the township of heating tene adding a restricted on-site parking space for handicat handicap parking at 157 Sherman Avenue
ordinance 41-2025 amending the township code for the township of act to clarify the actions of the application review committee and then the third one is ordinance 42-2025 amending the township code for the
township to require owners ers operators leases for occupants of any commercial, industrial and institutional property to report recycling activity. >> Sure. >> Can you can you just explain or someone
explain 41 2025 and 42 2022? >> Um yes, I believe this is we call it the Chris Brown ordinance. Is that correct? Um >> that's definitely the informal name. Yes. For which one is the Chris Brown? >> 41. >> 41. Would you mind giving him the I'm giving council Gats the brief? >> Sure.
>> So this is uh this was an amendment of an ordinance that you guys adopted last December which created this application review committee before applications can be heard by the uh either the land use boards. There was some confusion uh with this committee as to who was supposed to send out um letters saying the
applications were complete or not when they were supposed to send them out. And so this is primarily to clarify that and that's at the end of section B1. So, we're creating a committee. >> You already did create the committee la last last uh December. And so, it's uh made up of the board secretary, the
board. Got it. >> Uh the board. >> And then what about 42205? >> I I don't know if madam manager, do you want to um talk on that one? >> Um sure. Um this ordinance is going to add in an element where a letter will be
presented to business owners locally that they will report their tonnage. So, their recycling tonnage will be reported to the township and that will be inclusive to our tonnage uh report and in that report it will just add to the actual reporting of our recycling coordinator and it could increase our
funding back um to to the township. I I don't know what those funds would look like. The our DPW director would be through that. what the burden on the business owners is going to be. But I'd like to request that we first send this to the T-neck Road Business Alliance, the Cedar Lane Improvement District, and
the Chamber of Commerce to get their comments. I also like to um um push on this because I thought we're getting an entire global conversation about our recycling and here we are putting additional burdens on business owners when we're trying to say maybe we should
be reducing the burden on homeowners. So, I'd like >> I'd like to ask if I'd like to make a motion to um push table this until that conversation and until we get feedback from the business district. >> I'll second that. >> Deputy Mayor Cats, can I just clarify
one piece in this? So, it's >> Yeah, I do. Um the from my understanding and madam manager you can tell me if I'm wrong. So this is what Hackin Sack does and I think most of the surrounding towns right now DPW um has to make phone calls to businesses
and this is just a letter to request the the letter versus the phone call to reduce the staff time. Am I getting that right? It's not it's not increasing anything on the businesses. It's helping the staff and if we get the numbers from them it increases our recycling tonnage. Is that my understanding? That's I know
he pulled it from Hackinac. >> Um so I think it was incre increases the tonnage you throw in the garbage. >> So I'm not questioning whether it's good or bad. I honestly don't know. I mean I've had a business in TK for 31 year 30 years now. I've never gotten a phone call from the DPW though. Maybe they
don't have my number. Um but with that said, I'm just saying that 46 minutes ago the mayor spoke about the fact that we should have a global review of our recycling program. And now we're saying before we have a global review of our recycling program, let's add an ownerous
component to all the merchants in town and before we even get feedback from any of the businesses or business districts. >> I would agree. I would agree with that because yeah, >> let's owner. Wait, can the manager answer my question? I I was asking her >> either we're going to hold by do we call
>> I'm allowed to ask the manager a question. >> I mean which which we are we doing is this is like Robert's Junior's rule like we do the motion. I don't know what we So, do you want to answer her question since >> um Could you repeat your question, Larry? >> I asked to clarify. So, the current
process is the DPW makes phone calls and this is literally just changing from a phone call to a letter to save our staff time. Um and then they recite they they have the report the reports get sent to the township anyway. This is changing the process from that to help our staff.
Um and then when we get the letter which there were uh to their carriers which is what I think what we heard um we just get an increase in the um thing. There's no owners to the business. They're not changing anything. And I think I didn't um wasn't it also going to the carrier anyway. So if we have the carriers this
is helping our staff and we get and we get the bonus in the business and the recycling tonnage grant if it's not already being reported. >> Right. Isn't that what I understood? Honestly, I I have to tell you, I don't know if every business is getting that phone call or responding back. So, this
was a way for us to kind of streamline via a letter to the businesses and then respond. I am familiar with the Hackinack process, but this was a way for us to streamline it here. I can confirm with the businesses as Ellie requested um and see what kind of
feedback we get if we want to go this route, but um I I'm more than happy to take a closer look. Roll call, please. It was the first and second on the >> last question. I'm sorry. So, are we tableabling just until we get more information? >> Call the table. That's all. >> I'm not saying it's a bad idea. I'm saying that we need a little additional
information. >> The roll calls to table. M clerks call the roll call, please. >> Do we need a date? >> 41. It's 42. My apologies. 42. So, it's say motion right now to table 42 and then you'll call the roll call to introduce the other
Councilwoman Goldberg, >> no to tableabling. >> Councilman Pagan, >> I'm okay with tableabling it temporarily. Yes. >> Councilwoman J. >> Yes. >> Councilman Katz, >> Deputy Mayor Belter, >> yes. >> Deputy Mayor Organ,
>> yes. Mayor Schwarz, >> yes. And I'd like to make a motion to introduce 40 and 41 of 2025. >> Roll call, please. >> Councilwoman Goldberg. Yes. >> Councilman Pagan. >> Yes. >> Councilman G.
>> Yes. >> Councilman Katz. Deputy Mayor Belchure. >> Yes. >> Deputy Mayor Oregon. >> Yes. >> Mayor Schwarz. >> Yes. I'd like to make a motion to adjourn the meeting. >> Second. >> Nodding heads. Yes. Meeting is adjourned. Meeting a journ