[Music] mayor we do have a quum it is 6:30 you could call the me into order Council Goldberg Council Pagan councilman G here councilman Catz de May beler de May
Oregon Mayor Schwarz adequate notice of this meeting has been provided by resolution number 300 d224 sending a copy to the newspapers official designated for 2025 by way of resolution number 2225 finding copy in Township clerk's office posting on Miss building Bolton Board of the mayor hereby directs
this St be included in the minutes the first resolution we considered in a council resolution number 93-220 five authorizing Council enter into Clos session to discuss municipal judge interviews potential sale of Township property Personnel contracts NJ Route 4
project legal issues and opinions regarding any items on the Open Session agenda litigation updates and Oprah is there first all in favor wonderful we'll be back at8 pleas yeah I'm doing that one second uh sorry
mayor Pledge of Allegiance and then roll call rise pledge allegiance pledge allegiance to the flag of United States of America to the Republic for which stand God individ
lice roll yes sir mayor we have councilwoman Goldberg here councilman gone here councilwoman G here councilman Catz Deputy Mayor beler here Deputy Mayor Oregon here mayor Schwarz here adequate
notice of this meeting has been provided by resolution number 300 d224 sending a copy to the newspapers offici designated for 2025 by way of resolution number 2225 find a copy in the township clerk's office and posting on the municipal building Bolton board and the mayor hereby directs that this statement be included in the minutes thank you Mr
cler clerk tinic Administration president at tonight's meeting are Jacqueline hashman the Township manager Doug ruser Township Clerk Christian Christian is not going to be here tonight um Scott Samar Township attorney Ron Goodman our volunteer cable master
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property personnel contracts legal issues and opinions regarding any o items on the Open Session agenda litigation updates and Oprah with that we'll begin our regular uh agenda and we're going to start
with believe the presentations um certificate of recognition to Salif main or fdu triple jumper councilwoman Bel Deputy Mayor Bel will head down and present that I know there some people outside also
or okay good evening good evening everyone good evening uh hopefully you can hear me we're we're on right right okay so um I don't know about many of you but um I love the Olympics and probably my
favorite Olympics is um track and field so I was really um astonished to know that we have within our Township a gentleman who uh holds a world record and his name is siif Main and CIF if you
would if you would come over uh and just uh yes this gentleman is uh uh we want to recognize him he's an fdu graduate he's um Fairley Dickinson University's triple jumper uh and 2024 civil engineer
graduate he is sixth in the world he holds the record for um jumper and U one of the most he's one of the most decorated fdu athletes in the University's history uh the fourth night to compete for Team USA in the Olympics
and the first to represent since 1988 we congratul congratulate and recognize your phenomenal performance in the uh 2024 Paris Olympics and we thank you for helping put Teck on the nap
congratulations yes yes this is for you it's sign all the the council has signed and we truly appreciate uh the efforts that you you give to the uh the sport uh I believe that um uh Sports is
a way in which we bring people together and you certainly have shown that in in many ways and I'm gonna open it up to my colleagues to see if there's any comments um no I just want to say congratulations keep up the great work
the mayor was commenting that there's a lot of Swag in this room with TX different sweatshirts and we wondering if you brought an extra large a small FD FD also you have that you got our sweatshirt yeah you we give you a proclamation you give a sweatshirt today that's obviously didn't get the memo
yeah exactly okay um also want to say congratulations I mean what a feat to go to the Olympics and play you know do so well and we're so proud of you we're so happy you're here in Tek um I would love to hear more stories about that experience if we ever have time I think
that's just so phenomenal and so thank you for sharing your story with us and just congratulations go I just wanted to oh sorry my mic is high sorry just again congratulations this is very exciting and you should you make t neck proud so really great job
amazing I am a big fan of fdu and fdu sports so just want to say congratulations and we're so so very proud of you and thank you for coming out tonight I'm sure you had many things to do but thank you for coming out and letting us be proud of you and celebrate you celebrate with you you were on the Tina
campus a track did you also jog the streets or just a track okay um I'm surprised councilman Cass didn't do this I'm gonna go outside with you and we're going to challenge I'm in let's do it are you
ready are you you ready to get that back get that back you're getting that Proclamation back all right excellent thank you very much I'm G to trip going down there actually so congratulations thank you thank you for making us proud I appreciate it thank you give us a five minute Head Start five
minute I five day Head Start next I a field advisory presentation uh depy mayor organ would you like to start yes um as the liaison to the field Advisory Board along with um councilman Pagan I
just want to say that this is a great group of people who came together together only a couple of months ago to start working but has done such a good job coming up with a plan that really helps um the Youth of the entire town and I just want to recognize Everybody
by name um the chair and soccer liazon newly shaved AI Berliner Mike thank you um m a pra from Lancers [Applause]
baseball Andre gbck from TBO Travis Meyer from TX Southern Ryan Lugo from football Christina Pammy from [Applause] pprb and then Mike surakan from the DPW
who's worked really hard Anthony D'Angelo from the UK Public Schools [Applause] um Sean Powers our new acting wreck supervisor and Ibrahim who's been great Jenny Levy who's our new board of ed
rep and that's everyone and um so uh the board met and um came up with a recommendation for the town that we're going to hear now thank you well thank you uh thank you very much uh Council Mr Mayor Miss hashmat uh parents
stakeholders players coaches and the entire board I just want to personally thank you all for helping to make this happen this evening um what we're going to show you is a conversation that has really come out of months and months of conversations across the township both formally within our meetings uh
informally with various groups but also listening listening up in other advisory boards right in Board of Ed meetings what do people want what are they looking for and this is really a unique opportunity to deliver something that will continue to put Tink on the map and really help take us to the next level so
let's go so just to help take you along our journey for probably the last six months or so we were task to engage our stakeholders engage the community Sports organizations Board of Education DPW Recreation and identify our project what do we want to do next what field needs
to be improved where is the greatest bang for buck in value through our own board through other parents that reached out to us we identified a number of parks that all had feel throughout the township to take a closer look at Phelps V tur hun Sagamore Hawthorne argon
Brooks am on and I purposely call those out and you'll see on the next page we really looked at every field in all Corners in all neighborhoods throughout the town and you'll understand where in why we came to vot through discussions uh it was decided that what we really
need is a 90 foot baseball field that can be used not only for baseball not only for Majors but for all sports and we have a way to make that happen we then work with our Township with the council members as well as the Department of Public Works and the super the acting superinten of recreation to
engage two vendors we brought them in for site visits they provided uh initial recommendations and numbers for budgeting to let this happen they let us know what they thought we would be able to do they let they let us know what they thought we would not be able to do
and looking at the number of fields available the supporting infrastructure in the location uh other plan projects at particular Parks we settled on a board recommendation to redevelop VY Parks Middle Field as a 90 foot multi-use baceball field you could all
leave now if you want to but that is the recommendation if you can go to the next uh slide please Doug I want to provide this just as a point of reference I want to I wanted to show on the visual here across T neck each Green Dot if you can see is actually a park that we have it's
a park doesn't necessarily mean that it has a field but each the eight that I mentioned previously and are up there with the blue dots actually show every park that has a field on it and we considered each one of those in our conversations I went through our meeting notes and our videos from the last four
months to see really we actually put out and discussed and discuss these again all Corners every possibility where can we go and what can we do but I'm showing on the right there is a visual of vote Park and I I don't think that this sort of visual actually exists anywhere else
I don't think that anyone has the point of reference of what are the different fields in v and just as we talk through this to make sure that we're all having a common conversation we're starting at the northern tip next to where the uh TBO Fieldhouse is let's call it uh by the pool Clubhouse coming down is
Middlefield Clubhouse is a little league size field you'll notice that it has grass on the infield it's for little league Middlefield uh in recent years there really hasn't been much work done on it it has an all clay infield field for softball um but as the season goes on
it's really unplayable there's weeds that come up it needs to be mowed even though it does get mowed uh it floods as we know is a big problem in almost all the fields in vti New Field as we Contin as we continue moving on South uh is the new field a number of years ago the
township did invest in new concrete blocks that have uh some new fencing there were new dugouts that were installed uh as well as relatively small bleachers but if you can quickly see along right field right to the bottom left over here uh it does have a fairly
small right field to allow that to happen moving south there's Lancers which was rehabilitated again a number of years ago it is an all grass football field or a sprinkler uh excuse me baseball field 90 foot there are sprinklers installed it's used by Lancers it can be used by the high
school but it's really used for Majors the Fieldhouse and the Sports plex again point of perspective some of what we're talking about uh may make some more sense Thug if you can move on please first vendor that we engaged is a company called American Athletic track
and turf we actually for some reason chose the two coldest days over the winter to bring our vendors in and the first was we walked through uh through V right there were two Fields there major and minor we thought that we actually had room there to do some work on to put a 90 foot uh baseball field in walked
through it uh they initially thought that we could and they came back and said no there's really no room for a 90 foot at Phelps there's the Arbor Freedom which we don't want to have to touch there are playgrounds that we don't want to have to move there are houses on either field adjacent to either field there's really no room for that it would
be too much work however we took them to V and they came back and said great we have Middle Field we have new field we can utili utilize those two fields to put in a 90 foot baseball field and we can actually do what they call a 6090 field get both
sides of the field on the same plot uh field surfit right so we don't have to worry about flooding we can uh remediate the flooding issues and essentially cap as we did at the Sports plex uh probably 18 years ago if I have my number correct and for those that really are in tune
with the way the Contracting Works they would actually uh perform under the state contract under their state contract as part of the co-op so that would serve benefits for those that makes something to the two vendors did provide uh their initial uh budgeting estimates slightly differently uh this
particular firm Prov provided more of an itemized budget and while they did come out with uh almost $25 million do what you can note is that this is itemized right so if we decide that we don't need to or don't want to do the lighting for instance that would pull a significant
chunk of change out here um again this is going into vot where there are already light stanions there's already electricity so we're not necessarily starting from square one next slide please Doug the second firm that we engaged is a company called athletic fields of
America and I I just want to point out something for reference they're not new to tck so we redid a pray to field down by Hawthorne I fully turfed UH 60 foot field this was the firm that completed that so they already know how we do things they also uh were the ones who
installed and did the reinstall actually of the fdu baseball field right so as you're getting on Route four going to the West you'll notice fdu has a beautiful new field that they play there these are the folks who did that they know how to deal with the flooding they do it all inh housee and they had
extreme flooding issues there because they sit right next to um right next to the hackensac river that's actually my understanding is they explained why they couldn't even put in lights there they couldn't even sink in the stanion but they were able to put in a field all
weather um the other piece locally that they're involved with with is if anyone has driven through bota through the major uh project that's going on in bota this is actually the organization this is the company that's doing that install now what bot is doing is a part is a
much larger partnership and project between the Board of Education uh to renovate a number of their 100 plus year old school buildings as well as uh put in a number of baseball fields a brand new Turf in football field shift everything 90 degrees or so I think the
whole project is on the order of 17 or1 19 million very different than what we're looking at here but these guys know what happens locally their budget they came came back with something slightly lower they estimated about $2.3 million pending if a detention system is
needed but I would like to point out and if Michael surma bakei and from the DPW would be here he would note also that we already have sewers uh available in V Park so if and when we have the opportunity to bring the engineer and the formal design on board uh that may
not actually be an issue we may be able to tie into that it includes bleachers it assumes uh normal soil conditions does not include lighting but we previously but we uh discussed a little while ago we can do lighting separately right it's not necessarily an nonstarter
from an environmental uh constraint standpoint this company made a point of noting that they're actually an international firm uh they're owned by a company in Europe and for them to be able to uh install t uh professional soccer fields over in Europe right the
EU regulation does not allow them to use microplastics or pfest right so for anyone who's ever watched a football game on television right who's ever been to the Sports plex if you drag your foot there's like a cloud of black behind you right a small Cloud that's all the little rubber pellets coming up they
actually don't even do that anymore so this is environmentally friendly no microplastics to seep into the water table um there have been concerns that have been put out there from a health standpoint not something that we would have to worry with this install they were also kind enough to provide a
visual as to what uh aligned field could look like like you just to keep in mind that this is uh just an initial uh idea for a conceptual picture we can get this lined however we want uh but this right now is sitting on top of the field a 90
foot baseball field a 60-foot baseball field a softball field a full football field a full size soccer field as well as two half field soccer fields that are utilized for 9 what else can go on here is that for Little League what many fields actually do and many places do is
you can actually put multiple Fields onto a single field right so you're not just adding one baseball field you're potentially adding two or three baseball field if you get movable fences and there are other ways uh there are other ways to do that so this is really just not only going to increase the capacity
of what we do but really increase you know for every uh for every sport for every Youth Organization for the Board of Education it's truly going to bring you know just just a brand new uh offering to the residents of the town and finally what I'd like to leave you
with Doug if you can move on uh is a thought I mean this is truly a unique opportunity um you know I for some reason I have way too much time on my hands and I've have scoured um Google Maps I've driven all over Bergen County
and this is not a project that exists anywhere else right this really would allow tenk to continue to build and on top of the foundation of the Sports plex right a bber and public multi-use complex there's nothing public that's available like this and I think that tin has always taken Pride to be able to
build this as a community and give it back to the community but again it would truly enable our students our children our residents to lead and succeed at the highest levels of sport competition so again thank you very much for the opportunity I look forward to being able to continue along with the board and the
players uh to help to bring this to fruition so please if you have any questions or any thoughts please you know let us know no volleyball we could even line it for pickle ball if we wanted to that's the beauty of an artificial turf field sounds great was any com me I
don't think anyone here objects to it I can't anyone good this is wait can I is this we're going to ask for the manager and whatever can we have the manager have engineering start the drainage stuff ahead of time so that way like we
get ahead of it to get it moving I anything getting moving is my specialty I love it right so can we do that Absolutely I'll speak with Farah and so how many I think can you go back slide wise there was one of the slides um yeah
how many so it's I can't I'm sorry how many square feet of turf is that I just can't see so they estimated about 146,000 square feet of turf at $16 a square foot again if and when we you decide to move
forward right those will become real numbers in terms of the sell okay so I just I just want to know if everyone's okay if we ask the manager to start the storm water review with engineering because it's hard I'm sorry I can't see that far but um I just want
to get ahead of it now Absolut yeah so do you have the figures for what's in most and what we're getting from p and g handy uh if I'm not mistaken and please don't quote me on this I mean I would defer to the CFO uh in aggregate I think
it's about $ and5 million do is the last that I had seen um and again that would before be before you know even if we would want to move forward with any sort of Green Acres uh application proposal which has the potential to you know slash our outlay by 50% potentially and
again that's how we funded the Sports plex initially as well so just to keep in mind that this project while it's a great project would um eat up what's in currently in most and that psng money should we ever get it so um yeah we do
stud no so before we move on to studies I think it's something we need to discuss because if we're not able to fund this which I think we can um then we may not be doing the studies there we may be doing a smaller field someplace else um but also to keep in mind that what we spend now on this will bring us
many fields together and if we do it year after year it will take longer and end up costing more eventually it's also that most is not static right most right the township really took a leap forward and renewed uh last year right last year's election
so that will continue to acrew additional funds right so not like we spend we just b a swim club that's true and keep in mind all most of our new ratables that come onor increase our most so it's every year generates and grows that's correct Mr Mayor if I can
yes please so I played on a lot of our Fields Back in the 1980s and 199s and sadly a lot of those fields look exactly the same so one of my dreams and goals has always been to as many fields and improve as many fields as possible for our kids so I just want to thank all of
you all the coaches all the kids who are here all the board members for getting this conversation going and for getting the process going because it is a process but you absolutely have my vote and my support on this so thank you again so very much so I'll tell you I was actually disappointed as I walked in this evening because I saw the football players who had practiced just before
this knocking the mud off their cleats I was hoping they would sort of drag it in here to push the point Thank ruin the carpets got it okay are we got can you just confirm we've been told I don't know a lot about this the psng money has
to be used for acquisition unless we give them 3.37 acres of land I gota I need to check the I know you I know there there have been Communications with Green Acres about it I need to look at the and refresh my memory because I just don't remember off on my head I believe we were told it was free money spend as you want let me let me just
double check I can get back to on Excell anybody else I just want to say thank you this was an excellent presentation so excited for the future of this this project thank you I I just want to add I think it's exciting to see that you know we're doing some things U that's value add to V Park and to all of our athletes
and future Olympians as well Sports night and Tina yes and I look forward to seeing you up here next year for the next project well all right thank you very much thank much guys [Applause] okay yes that always that awkward moment where you're not sure if you can leave you can leave now
no worries no worries yeah they're all outside oh I can do it during miscellane um okay thank you very much and as they're emptying out we're going to go on to our next um resolution the amended
resolution regarding subcommittee sorry are we on the right I apologize yeah I'm sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry I skipped the whole page I'm sorry okay there are presentations work session it is miscellaneous I have one yes um Mr
clerk um I'd like to move that we add to the consent agenda um the appointment of Travis Meyer to the field Advisory Board is the TX Southern rep with a term of January 1st 2025 to December 31st 2026 second
third okay Miss laneous anybody else did you want you want to vote on that or you yes I think everyone their heads there yeah so that's going to be resolution 100-22 no joke okay old
business new business Communications okay um committee reports by Council liaison we'll go with to start with I'll do mine afterwards um the 2024 hackin SEC River Greener advis you board annual report I
think you are the liais on now right Danielle yeah a great group of people though and their meetings are always very quick they do a lot to help the town but I'm sorry Daniel in case you didn't want to see anything is that just something to reference from the report is that you just want to tell us okay so that report's in there thank you very much
and we'll take a look at that um my committee report zoning subcommittee will talk about a uh CommunityWide meeting likely to be held in April as it relates to a Regina's Area Property the manager will report on that in her report uh that's what I have on my
report rep um also just on my report the the C Management Group is moving ahead with the redoing of the brown paper as a test trial I mentioned that last time and it's moving ahead with the dollar store gonna have a redo of not vacant brown paper but tck cinema ten um um
Street skate related coverings that we're going to look as a test project to potentially ban the use of brown paper and a vacon store this is a test product and they continue to work on that with can I ask a question on that yes from what I read and understand it's not
being the the cost is not being absorbed by the future potential Merchant right now there is no ordinance there's nothing right now this is a sample to be discussed um landlord it hasn't we haven't formalized anything at this point yet is that I imagine you're saying you're against that is that what
you're yeah I just think like how many expenses are you g to give this Merchant before they even open up their doors right I believe it would be the landlord because it's actually on vacany not give a landlord before their tenant opens up the doors probably more than the stained dirty brown paper that they currently
have in their window not whatever not stained I mean what not not every brown paper stain though I mean it's better than newspaper oh well there's no ordinances right now so definitely something to discuss down the future I I hear your input anybody else on any other
committees I do have I I just want to comment on on the um window covering I think it's a great idea I think that we need to really uh do whatever we can to to spruce up um our all of our business districts whenever we have vacancies so
having something that um pretty much says coming soon or you know tck um f you know T neck winds or whatever it is I think it's a whole lot better than brown paperbacks uh Swim Club subcommittee met with the some former board members of
The Swim Club on Friday we met with many of the department heads um from Mis and Recreation uh DPW and today this morning we met at the swim club property with the DPW police
fire Mis manager Deputy manager um and I think it'll part of it'll be in the manager's report but they have a lot work to do to bring everything up to code for this coming summer but we're looking forward um to opening as um what
shall be named I guess the tink pool or tck whatever it will be named um it was a very very very exciting and um we got a lot of progress done uh yeah I just wanted to mention that the Chamber of Commerce we did meet
uh attended the last meeting um some exciting things are um happening there one of the things that that um we talked about is um I'm hearing myself twice it's like an echo is there an echo oh okay no problem uh so so
basically um one of the recommendations that I've made is that looking at going forward for a lot of the chambers in the in the area uh we really want to step up some opportunities as pertains to what's happening uh a year from now with um the World Cup so you know looking at
opportunities that our businesses can partake in in terms of in our Township in general um in in terms of preparation for the World Cup so one of the things I'd like to to uh for um my colleagues to think about is the the possibility of us having a task force uh to really kind
of like speak to the World Cup you know um chiming in in terms of what's happening on the state level on the county level and regionally what's happening and so forth because um it's uh we don't want to have missed opportunities and we want to pretty much have as much time as possible to really
prepare for it so um I I'd like for us to entertain the possibility of a of a task force I actually think I M manager did you get an email I thought I saw an email about a task force there forming countywide I have there there is one for right um you know mayor CID always said
the best way to prepare for this is build more hotels our hotels are practically sold out so that would have been maybe too late in time for the next uh for this event but that would be that would have been great okay I think we all agree on that that's important to we'll look into that task force in emails committees anyone else
committees okay Council listed items formation of Redevelopment Agency for town Redevelopment mayor Schwarz Deputy Mayors Oregon and beler um what I'm looking for is uh four nodding heads to invite our Redevelopment attorney into close session to discuss and we've
discussed this before in the past close first because of some hiring and contracts involved first and then a future public U meeting um to discuss the possibilities as we've done probably two or three times in the last five or six years of a Redevelopment agency this idea came about with some Community um
with some neighborhood meetings that we've been we've been having over the last six seven weeks and and it's specifically with the Coalition of neighborhood associations and it's something that if I have four nodding heads we'll make that invitation get more information on what the Redevelopment agency does and welcome
our planning board share that just discussed it with us as a matter of fact Mr May so yes I don't have any objection to what you just said excellent but I've um got a request from a few members of the public that when we do this the four nodding heads thing it's hard to see can we just do a roll call to do this like I
don't have an issue with it butes gladly okay so can we do a roll call of n aead this is to invite our to take what the initial step forward by inviting our Redevelopment attorney to First a Clos session then a public session to Prov
the potential creation of a Redevelopment agency cool that motion was made by Schwarz second and by Deputy Mayor belter councilwoman Goldberg yes councilman Pagan yes councilwoman G yes yes
councilman Catz that mayor beler yes that mayor Oregon yes mayor Schwarz yes proposed ordinance Pro protests mayor Schwarz Deputy Mayor Oregon councilman cats Deputy Mayor orgon yeah so there is
an ordinance that we're um proposing uh it's been discussed in Clos session um a few times I'm bringing it forward and I want to discuss what this ordinance is and what this ordinance isn't it seems like there's a lot of chatter around
town and um I hope uh to uh clarify some and I um would then be looking for four nodding heads to move this forward um to introduce it so amending the township code for the township of EK to provide for additional regulations on the time
place manner of special events within the township whereas over the preceding year the township of tinac has experienced an increase in large Gatherings preceding along a public Street public sidewalk or other public right of way both organized and not they have raised concerns over the public
health safety and Welfare of the residents of the township and whereas at the same time the mayor and Township Council seek to protect the right of its residents to participate in peaceful marches demonstrations and other excessive activity that are protected by the United States and New Jersey
constitutions and whereas certain sections of the Township Code can and should be clarified to provide for additional guidance as to the rights of those participating in such Gatherings as well as Township officials in enforcing the Township Code and whereas it is the intent of this amendment to
protect and preserve the health safety and Welfare of the citizens of Tink including by establishing certain time place and manner regulations to ensure that constitutionally protected activity can safely proceed without undue interference and whereas the township
believes that to promote Clarity and understanding these rights it is necessary from time to time to update the language used in the Township Code as well as the procedures um and then it goes on to uh describe special events and parades and list
restrictions um it explains that most um events were looking to be per permitted so people would fill out a permit that would go to the manager and the police chief I've done this many times for large events uh they would then approve
um or amend the application uh based on what they feel is safe for the community um and then it goes on to describe um restrictions if uh there is no permit um applied for there is no permit so here's
what this ordinance is meant to do it's me it's meant to establish time place and manner regulations it's meant to protect the First Amendment rights um the right to worship freely but also the right to exercise freedom of speech it's meant to
be protective and it's not meant to be restrictive here's what this ordinance doesn't do it doesn't restrict Gatherings and music in your backyard after 7 o'clock at night it doesn't restrict you from climbing trees in the park if you want to do that I think
unless there's another ordinance that says we can't do that um it doesn't restrict joggers uh doesn't restrict uh a color guard during a parade so so there's been a lot of chatter on social media claiming that this is what this ordinance does it is um not what this
ordinance does it's in the packet and it is online there are a few small changes that I would like to make before the next meeting some people are saying that you can't carry um a small flag with a wooden stick in the Fourth of July parade if it needs to be clarified that
that's not a weapon then I think we should change that um so a few small changes that we'd like to make just to make things more clear um but um I and so I I would look to um change it and uh
introduce it as in in the next meeting um for introduction um my feeling is that as elected officials we have many jobs but the two most important are uh to protect the safety of our residents and the
feeling of our residents that they are safe here and I think um we have not been able to do that fully over the last year I think that applies equally to every group in town um anybody should be free to worship and anybody should feel protected and the other thing this
ordinance does is it gives Clarity it gives clear direction to the police department so that they now have something that they can work with um to protect us and they feel supported by us because we've passed a a regulation so I
yes um if there's other comment otherwise so you're looking this is not for tonight it's just can clarify what you're looking for in terms of scheduling I I'd like um support to put it on for introduction at the next meeting and then it would be introduction and then another meeting
there after so this is not being read into tonight correct okay wait so I'm sorry I want to make sure I understand so this is you're not moving to introduce us tonight you're asking if it could be introduced at the next meeting I I'd like support from for Council Members I didn't
specifically put it on the agenda for introduction because I felt that we discussed that it wouldn't be um you know it it wouldn't be right and we should see that we have the support before we put it on for introduction uh but yeah that's what I'm
looking for I have a question Scott can you just clarify did you draft this ordinance so the um so about a year ago the I was asked by several members the Council to draft
a uh a ordinance related to protests um at the time I drafted an ordinance uh that was uh different than this version at least you know at least partially different based on one that uh we borrow
from from hackin saac which had done uh they had done a lot of research research into this and so I I prepared a draft based on that um over the last few months uh I want to say uh there have been there a number of C council members
and some other individuals uh asked for changes to be made uh to uh the ordinance uh which are reflected in this version that you're seeing here before you um so I'll say I didn't draft the current version of this I have obviously reviewed uh all of it and I've you know
as as you're aware as the council's aware I've obviously provided legal guidance to the Council on this version but I don't I would say that I I don't know I would say I drafted it because it's in a different form than the one that I originally drafted so which part did you take from hack and suck and
which part did you not do um so let me see the parts that I originally drafted you know so let me see the first page go
here so the definitions uh that were that were provided I think I had drafted a slightly different version of the parade definition the I believe the special event definition was added in after um in this in Sub in section 31
B9 uh I had drafted sections subsections a b d e part of f uh I
J uh l m n o and O um so it's a little more than half of the half of this but there yeah the main differences from the original version are in sections I think
C part of f g h and I believe but and then I say the sections 31 uh B1 through B8 were already that's already in the was already in the code AS stand so those
were not drafted by me those were drafted I'm not sure how how long ago um can you just address how does this address spontaneous protests for instance zaka protest when somebody came to Teck um would this prevent that what
what does that do in that situation remind me which was that which was that protest uh when nardine kwani came I don't I don't remember that specific protest I could outside of the this OG when the zaka protest happened in April 1st
2024 um West Anglewood Avenue I'm sorry West Englewood Avenue I'll be honest with you there have been I know there obvious been a lot of protests in Teck in the last year and a half so I I don't remember the specific one there was no there was no permit for so so for spontaneous protest
we're required there's H there's um precedent under the Supreme Court that if someone we you know we're allow we're allowed to require permits if someone doesn't comply with the requirements here we are still obligated to essentially give them an opportunity to
obtain a permit even if it's spontaneous it's you know it's ultimately their choice as to whether or not they the protesters Choice as to whether or not they um they request a per request a permit at that time what we are allowed to do depends on whether or not they
actually obtain a permit or not um I'll say the the police have more ability act when if someone someone doesn't uh uh request a permit depending on the nature of the protest if um someone obtains a protest obtains a permit that allows
them to you know protest in a certain area using certain streets and obviously the police can only essentially assist them with it if someone doesn't apply for a permit and they are you know completely blocking the street or blocking the the right of way uh the police have more uh authority to to move
the protest along or force in a different direction so depends I say it depends on the nature of this the the specific spontaneous protest and that we still have to give them an opportunity to get a permit what the police are able to do if they uh depends on if they do or they don't uh take that opportunity
that we're giving them and then depends on what the protesters then do after that so I'm not sure if that answers your question or not but Mr attorney um most importantly can we discuss the pro the the town green where it's just traditionally a place where we've had a
protest how if if at all do talk or are there any restrictions on that we talk about Municipal green sure we're told that there is no that this that's the where the first amendment has their absolute right and there is no so B so and this is in subsection f
um of the of the sorry section 31 B9 subsection F it's page 25 of the packet um in and basically what it says is that you are you have an absolute right to protest in the what we called the traditional public forums so if Parks uh
public parks plazas streets and sidewalks and otherwise traditional areas like that it's it restricts uh ability to protest in areas like inside the police station or the or the headquarters or fire station inside of a Town Township owned building like you
know like this building here uh those areas are restricted absent uh the right to absent permits that's really done for Public Safety uh and and um the government's ability to so that's all so Municipal green fully on no permits do what you want to do go outside right now I don't like how you're talking I can go
outside and protest correct understood Mr Mayor mayor um two quick questions for you Scott and I'm not trying to put you on the spot but I do respect your opinion I'm just going to cut right to the Crux of the matter is this constitutional and did the township hire a constitutional
attorney to look at this the township did not hire a I'll say specific constitutional attorney to look at this I'm not comfortable giving uh an an as to whether or not it's kind that's I it's it's a turn it's I can't give my legal advice in that context to the
public uh that's that's those are conversations I have to have with you guys individually or as a group just separately I just I can't I can't wait return tocl privilege and and give that kind of thing I give give an answer to something like that um but I know I know I've expressed my my opinions on that to
I think to all of you with this point thank you Scott Deputy Mayor Bel okay um Mr attorney um in 2020 um there were several um Teck residents that on Sundays would um do
car Caravans um and this was in protest for the killing of uh George Floyd and um the uh scenario was no no permits were
to my knowledge were taken out um as you can can imagine in 2020 we were still in the midst of of covid so assembling was done by way of car Caravan um based upon this ordinance
would that be considered illegal so I'll say I'll say no the only way that that would cause any issues under this ordinance isn't is in subsection I of Al there page 26 of the
packet of 31 B9 in that with the free flow of traffic has to remain unimpeded so if car Caravan is is going through town and they're move the cars are moving and it's not I'll say fully blocking traffic then there then that's not a problem if all the cars suddenly stop in the middle of the road and you
know cars can't get by pedestrians can't get by things like that that's a different that's a different thing and that would be with absent of permit that that would not that would not be permitted but if the car if cars are moving uh and it's not F fully blocking traffic then then this would not um this
it would not violate this ordinance Den Denise can I ask a followup to that sure if they did get a permit um it would be under the manager and the police chief's discretion to close down the street so that they could flow freely without being interrupted at intersections right
Scott that's correct no okay so if that's the case we'll look for it the question is that we're looking for a motion in a second to then put it on at a future meeting for introduction if that's the case if there's no questions I'll make a motion to um nod my head to put this on at a future council meeting for
introduction is that for March 11th mayor March 11th it is second that's a second from Deputy Mayor Oregan to see this proposed language for introduction on March 31 we have councilwoman Goldberg abstain we have councilman
Pagan no we have councilwoman G obain we have councilman Catz we have Debbie may beler obain we have Debbie May Oregon yes we have mayor Schwarz yes so because there
were three extensions and there aren't four votes it's it doesn't pass that's correct I'm just I'm pulling up the code to make sure but I believe that's correct can we can we um can I make a motion I guess to the for the council to hire an independent constitutional
person to review this and advise the Council on how we handle these complicated constitutional issues I'll second that that's what I had asked you in close session before in independent yes so there no motion there's a second on the floor Mr um clerk if you call the
roll call that's for the council to obtain to retain an individ an independent constitutional attorney to take a look at this in common accordingly be under your offices Mr attorney so what what I think that what we'll have to do is um I I uh I can pull
up some some recommendations for the council to consider we'll need to do a second another essentially another vote to award someone professional service contract for that uh at a future meeting but I can give the the um I give you Council some recommendations just to thank you that roll call
please councilman goldbert yes councilman ban yes councilman G yes councilman Catz C May beler yes Oregon yes mayor Schwarz yes we'll hear back from our attorney uh next proposed resolution
amended resolution regarding subcommittees council members Gober and Pagan so I'm not going to read this this is um the changes that uh were discussed last meeting uh regarding the subcommittees um most pretty much everything in here
from the discussion between myself uh council member G and and belur is in here um I think everyone had a chance to read it um if there's any additional suggestions otherwise I'd like to move this to the consent agenda second suggestions you had it was yeah
can we discuss this again yes Council M um yeah do you want to start okay um yeah just just a couple of things I I I think we're getting close that's that's good news uh one of the issues that I think we had
was and I wanted to tweak was the timeline between the requirement of minutes being produced from the end of a a subcommittee meeting uh and we just felt that because of the fact that none of us have administrative support um
that we would either a ask the town manager to assign uh an administrative uh Point person in particular for the um zoning subcommittees because the nature of the discussions and Zoning is so
important so not to say the other committees are not that we feel as if we want to relegate that the task of capturing minutes by a town person okay so that's one thing
that we we definitely want we don't feel I feel as if um even our chair who's chairing the meeting it's kind of hard to to capture minutes when you're cheering so if our town manager could really advise us on that um I would feel
the same for even the affordable housing although I feel that we're not in subcommittee any longer we've relegated that our responsibility we're in the compliance stage of what we have to do but even if we were or the next time a subcommittee uh on affordable housing
convenes I I would recommend as well that a Township attorney that uh a Township person administrative person that has the skill set to take minutes would be given that responsibility so so that's one of the things I'm going to um turn it over to my colleagues to add
anything else um so in my ideal world we would figure out um a solution that we could you know all seven agree on um one of the concerns I heard from colleagues um was
that the subcommittee meetings if held in public 100% of the time there would be um there wouldn't be as much comfort or the the discussions um people would be so discouraged from participating that they would take conversations offline which I
think is problematic right we want to be able to do the work of the subcommittee without concern of um folks just not not wanting to be in the subcommittees anymore because they can't have conversations um around things that they believe should be in closed session um
uh uh comfortably so so that concerned so if we can't figure out a way to do this that we all agree on and then people stop doing subcommittees then that doesn't solve the issue um so I wonder if there's another way um I largely support this as written but I
know that not everybody else does um I did like the idea of allowing the chair some Grace to You Know decide um if there there were topics without the 5 days necessarily notice that needed to go into close not everyone has the opma
rules memorized in their heads and so they might need some ability to close as needed and I brought this up last time um Personnel for example I think should always be closed um and then finally I wanted to propose a suggestion um and
get some feedback from the rest of you uh what if all of the meetings were open we start off open we very clearly State what the agenda is and then move into closed have the subcommittee meeting come out of closed and very specifically
right after the closed meeting share with the public publicly go back into public session exactly what was discussed immediately provide minutes so that there's no waiting five days the public gets the summary right there um on Zoom immediately and setting instead
of having to wait for minutes and any additional topics that were covered would be shared um right then after the meeting so that's my suggestion as an alternative um if all seven could get around that Len I'm not so strong either way but I I just you know and I as I mentioned at
the last meeting this is like altruistic and you know doesn't sound like there's anything really wrong with this but you know I'd just like to talk about some of the meetings that I've familiar with in the last couple of weeks where we did
the subcommittee and just tell me practical application when we showed up with the to the county executive with a meeting and we had 20 residents how do we explain that they're like oh we travel with them or during the sensitive um time when we were negotiating with
the swim club where the subcommittee did a spectacular job being very sensitive to the needs of the members how do we explain the 20 residents sitting there or during Personnel interviews so like while it sounds really wonderful either
we're trying to government uh progress which is not good for any Resident you know or it's just you know an attempt to be a make a political statement publicly and say oh these people are against transparency no I think some of us that are saying that
this is silly are against not moving forward properly so if you can address how we would show up to the meeting with fdu and say oh by the way these are hard2 residents that we travel with and and try to get progress then I'm in
favor of it but otherwise I think we should leave it to the subcommittee chair to use his or her discretion of when we should have these open meetings I don't see a successful negotiation like you did with the swim club with 20
residents sitting there I just don't see it and you guys did a great job so that's just my my comment what what subcommittee met with fdu subcommittee was just it was hypothetical it was the the manager
myself and as important so I would like to make a motion that we do a task force of myself uh Deputy Mayor belshire and councilwoman G to discuss this and Hammer this out once and for all um this is this was emailed to people this was on the agenda I think that we can
actually do it and I'm happy to take minutes I'll second that for a roll call can I suggest that someone who because the three of us are kind of mostly aligned should we should we not have someone on that task force who feel doesn't want it at all and want to squash the whole thing no because I don't want to I don't want it at all
because then we're not going to find a solution that works for everyone right the solution is I hope we don't pay a lot of money for this red tape that we're so i'mna I'm gonna step off of the task force and allow someone else to I'm not going to be on the task force something I don't agree with I think it's it's a very healthy conversation if that's what you want to have but I don't
want to partake in that conversation it's just not practical as you heard some of the okay did the three of you agree to that is that a works for me so make the motion that the task force of me councilman uh Pagan and Deputy Mayor
beler and I will take the minutes to figure this out and I'd like to request that that's an open task force and we buy try new residents with the minutes or repercussions says in here I mean most of the meetings that I've been to I mean you can most it's on Zoom so I
don't know but it's I addressed all of the concerns but I think I'm making the motion on the task force there's a second I'll second that if it wasn't second and roll call Mr Clerk I'm sorry yeah it was seconded by myself it was myself Council mber yes Council M yes
councilman G yes Deputy Mayor councilman cats yeah I'm I'm in favor of the subcommittee I just think it's kind of comical we're creating a subcommittee to have a private meeting about having a public subcommittee so go for it let's do
it yes from Council mcats May beler yes Deputy Mayor Oran no mayor Schwarz no okay so that the test cour will meet I look forward to a 5day notice on that meeting and minutes produced and
promptly thereafter uh Township manager report thank you mayor and good evening Council and Township residents as some of you may have been informed on social media our Leonia neighbors experienced a tragic condo fire that displaced several residents
from their homes Leonia continues to accept donations through the Leonia Community chest which I have posted on our website and social media this is the only donations that are being accepted as of now and they have thanked our community for our
generosity as an update for our our compost pilot program we have signed the agreement for a six-month pilot program and invite our tinic residents to to sign up on our website the program will officially begin on April 1st and the location for our compost toast will be
in the Overflow parking lot by the Rota Center the link for Resident signup is located on the front page of our website thank you once again to the environmental commission for your hard work on this project for our community please be advised that our snow shoveling services offered by The
Forum is at capacity so they are unable to pair additional students and seniors at this time we do extend our sincere gratitude to The Forum and the students for their organization and participation the township is launching a code enforcement pilot program at the
request of the Northeast block presidents Association that was met previously this will begin on March 1 our health department will be assisting with this request um we will be um Distributing a
trifold informational pamphlet it will be provided to the businesses and the residents as an educational program progr our inspectors will be monitoring this area for compliance and a comprehensive report in about 6 months last meeting um we spoke at about
a resident request for Far Side bus stops to be inspected and relocated on West Anglewood Avenue I have since asked our Police Department to further research this request and provide their recommendations they are in contact with NJ Transit and awaiting further
discussion and response I will plan to report next meeting on on their findings our EK pool subcommittee and department heads met with the swim club in reference to our collaboration for change over of the property all Township departments are on task for renovation
maintenance repairs and summer scheduling to share with everyone in the coming weeks I am also pleased to report that the njde has reviewed and modified the lease agreement for access to Sagamore park for our detention tank construction and installation project this 2-year
lease agreement will be as of April 1st and is listed on our agenda this evening this agreement gives us immediate access to the property for this active project the township will also be hosting a community meeting which was mentioned mentioned by the mayor it will be um scheduled in April and it will
focus on the proposed development for 827 tck Road previously Regina Stakehouse a flyer with details will be posted and all are welcome to attend our library project uh continues to move forward due to some Asus remediation the project does have a
delay of about a 100 days and we are now looking for this project to be completed around SE late September into October we are moving the project along as quickly as possible and I'll keep you updated as as any changes come about moving to our project updates fik
Lane the project plans and specifications were approved by do and we're awaiting approval for purchasing and to go out to bid argon Park tennis courts the design is complete and we are also waiting to go out to bid as well the uh Phelps park splash pad
preliminary design is complete final design is in Project is in progress Sagamore Park improvements we are coordinating with various Park vendors to finalize our plans and our 2024 Road resurfacing uh program is the preliminary plans are complete and we we
are working on Final design the Andreas Park pickle ball C courts pre construction meeting was held earlier this month and construction is scheduled for this month bav drainage project Pro we are progressing with the lease agreement diversion permit and
compensation proposal design work for detention system remains in progress bav rine Garden we are finalizing that design as well and we are collaborating with Rutter's University lastly Ramadan Mubarak to those celebrating in our community I was
pleased to hear that your celebration at the rotus center went well last evening friendly reminder please sign up for Township alerts on the front page of our website thank you mayor thank you Mrs manager uh Mr attorney any report from you nothing tonight from me Mr Mayor
excellent and with that we'll head there is no ordinances tonight so we'll head into the good and Welfare I don't think there's anyone want to speak so we'll just move on um and um we'll start with everyone in the room that we help to zoom therea you'll have three minutes to
speak please come up state your name please speak um direct your comments to me please speak respectfully and raise your hands and we'll start gentem in the back good evening Council my name is Adam dalesman I'm the president and commissioner of the Tek baseball
organization better known throughout town as TBO uh before I begin I just want to thank everyone on the fields Advisory Board all of whom have given their time freely to be on the board and it's very very much appreciated Deputy Mayor Oregon as you mentioned one of the
more important things any town can provide to those who live there are places to play sports live healthy lives together especially when it comes to Children TBO is so grateful for everything that you all have done for us um all the work that's been done to
improve Fields over the years but unfortunately there is still a lot of work to be done every season TBO provides children in Teek with a wck league in which they can play baseball or softball ranging from prek through 8th grade so we do need a lot of fields and
thankfully again our relationship has been great and you've been able to provide us a lot of those fields but councilman Pagan as you mentioned a lot of our uh parents actually played TBO when they were kids and they all say the same thing the fields for the most part
feel very similar to what they were then um that goes especially for Middlefield Middlefield has been our most problem atic field year after year it seems like we've had to cancel more games at middle than we've been able to play last year due to rains and then the flooding that
ensued after we were unable to use middle for the entire season this proposed fix will help us be able to use a field that right now sits unused most of the time this will provide more games and provide more sports activities for us as well as for the teenek Youth
across all the sports and the town youth leagues so again I just want to thank you all for your time thank you for creating the sports Advisory Board and thank you all for uh considering this this uh uh this this exciting fix to Middle thank you and thank you for your
help on the um volunteering on the TBO um I was remissed I didn't call any clergy up first is any clergy in the room that like to speak no okay see no clergy hands unless Mr Ros you became a clergyman come on up good evening Howard Rose Teck resident a
number of things you open the meeting discussing uh Redevelopment plans sort of hoping that you might also add to that something regarding a functional utilitarian Housing Authority what a benefit that would be to Teck residents and it would
skew housing in the future more towards people who live here not just the rest of the count well the rest of the county in general goodness demonstrations uh I I I use the word impromptu what about impromptu uh areas
I seem to be getting but I'd like to hear some more definition next meeting perhaps if not tonight uh it sounds as if people can gather speak demonstrate in Parks more easily and that makes sense because it's out of the way of the
general public uh and their interactions on the streets and sidewalks and uh whatnot but when you talk about permits 9:00 in the evening I have 300 people who I know who want to demonstrate where do I go to get
a permit at 9:00 in the evening is that through the police department is that through the manager's office is it accessible is it doable or are you putting an implicit barrier towards doing something impr prom to at certain points in Time subcommittees on I'm getting the
feeling that transparency again is still a consideration that's not being given its due uh I'm picking up that sometimes council members might be less comfortable discussing their true feelings and reality in
public well that doesn't make sense to me I I'd like to know your true feelings and what you're really thinking in public if it has to be clandestine to be said it probably shouldn't be said at all I realize that there are areas of
personnel Etc that of course have to be uh nonpublic uh but but that can be determined I'd like to see a balance between transparency and secretive that's really good we talked about the swim club and I
I keep mentioning that I like to see it Go West towards the river I'm still surprised I realized it's a wet land it's a whatever and and maybe there's a balance where they could have a raised deck that you walk along near it that doesn't interfere again the
word balance what can be done to accommodate the living I mean adjacent to the swim club we celebrate the dead why don't we celebrate the living with the utilization of the land adjacent to the hacken sack River thank
you thank you Mr Rose anybody else like to speak ma' Valerie Len tneck resident um want to thank the board for their service um and also uh mayor
Schwarz and Miss hashmat thank you for responding to my emails about not getting my little section of Albin Street plowed I appreciate the prompt response uh I won't say how but I've had a chance to go peek in what's going on at herck Park in the playground and I'm
very excited with the pro progress there uh our newer residents in the south of Cedar Community uh I don't know that they're even going to be able to fully appreciate what looks like it's going to be an amazing playground uh with regards to the ordinance on uh protests and
Gatherings um I I was there I was in the mix of it I think these were necessary changes that had to happen and I hope it's going to be a smooth process to get the ordinance passed as worded thank you thank you m nice shirt what's that shirt
say Val everyone see it says no one appreciates the clerk's office okay that's for show show don't encourage him thank you very much sir thank you good evening Wasim Canan
uh Wayne new Jersey um good evening uh I'm here to discuss the protest ordinance also particularly just to address one okay now two I just remembered one more I'll say um to start with uh councilman Pagan answering your
question in regard to ordinance 31 b-9 um subsection H uh this ordinance is broadly arbitrary um and prohibition is a prim fasia a constitutional uh uh violation and it
represents a Content based restriction on speech that the Supreme Court has repeatedly struck down so I I appreciated the conversation this evening very much and so um I would like to put on to the record um and say first
and foremost um I'm reading from um a letter served to the council via email and in paper today um that was prepared uh by uh the pal commission and um uh so
it's not my legal research um but in that letter that was given to you the very specific sites are in the letter um if you go to page um two apologies page two the third the
fourth paragraph down the cases being cited in in that letter are Reed V the town of Gilbert Mullen V cookley and again the the full citations are in the letter um if nobody if someone hasn't
received it please indicate and we'll make sure that that it is it is delivered and uh Carrie V uh Brown um so for your consideration moving forward on that matter I ask that you research that case law and consider as um the existing
case law establishing that such actions are in fact unconstitutional thank you thank you chair Brown and thank you for your helping the plan a word Mr chairman thank you m Schwarz and members of council um just here quick comments
appreciate having the lease agreement for Sagamore Park on tonight's agenda um it's again you know a long time coming and we look forward to construction happening at some point on sagore this year and it's great that we are um using
this loophole that is within NJ dp's regulations uh to to move forward with the project to move forward with the project and uh expedite the diversion process I would say um generally speaking we shouldn't have to do that
generally speaking it is a Township Park we should be allowed to have storm water improvements on Township land and not have to go through all of this headache but this is where we are NJ DP rules are very ridiculous in this in this respect
and at some point the legislature needs to get on it with amending D's rules the Green Acres rules to allow communities that are affected by climate change in um more extreme rainfall events and
other um other other various um conditions to address or to mitigate those those impacts using our our parks and and green spaces so that's you know something for the future if you have
aign to an elected official in at the state level um but thank you very much for for for moving this forward thank you manager hashmat for uh for for help for all your help so far so thank you have a great night thank you very much r fman
good evening uh to everybody thank you very much to all the members of council for your service and to the town manager um it's wonderful to be together with friends and Neighbors when the gentleman from Wayne got up to speak about the letter from the pal commission it reminded me of when uh individuals from
that same Commission came to slam on my front door and wake up my uh two then two two-year-old child uh serving me with CE and desist papers for uh saying that there is a religious uh component uh to the Jewish connection to the land
of Israel that was only a week after they did the same thing outside of my synagogue I received a letter bya email that all of you received that we were told that there will be peace in tenek when the Jewish Community stops celebrating the sacrifice of members of
the Israel Defense Forces when the Jewish Community stops honoring the mo those individuals who bury the martyrs uh who were murdered on October 7th when the Jewish Community stops offering opportunities for people to fulfill the
religious obligation of purchasing land in the land that we consider to be the Holy Land the Jewish Community has been harassed over and again and this Council lacks urgency with respect to this issue I was very surprised in a meeting
regarding this issue that it was simply not known by one of the members that there were essentially riots in Brooklyn last week for events that take place right here in Tink in a Jewish neighborhood that was targeted for these very reasons the same kinds of
activities that have gone here gone on here for over a year and a half I have congregants who on multiple occasions ask me is it safe to go outside can we safe come to the synagogue we pay in aggregate over a million dollars between
all of the synagogues and the day schools for our security it is enough the Jewish Community has had enough we don't have to live in hiding Jewish Community should be able to advertise their events safely we are not going to
be told any longer that we can't have events that are essential to our religious practice Bergenfield had one protest they passed the ordinance that was considered tonight materially five to nothing five to nothing they had one
event one protest they Pro they passed it right away the same United States Constitution that governs Bergenfield governs ten neck it is astonishing to me that we are still here that we lack this urgency that the Jewish Community which
was told repeatedly that we have your back that we see you that we hear you was with the response that was tonight I hope we can move forward expeditiously thank you thank you Rabbi ma'am yes I appreciate that you guys
understand oh I'm sorry I'm Tova fry I'm from West Orange and uh I am uh not only member of the Jewish Community but strongly disagree and and an anti-zionist Jew whose uh uh
Grandparents were killed during the Holocaust and that's not what they died for is what this gentleman before me just talked about um so I want to say that um this ordinance that uh you guys rightfully understood had constitutional
questions and needs to be further studied before you try to proceed with it um is overall um very broadly um and I'm I'm reading uh from this uh pal uh
Commission on war crimes uh letter here that you guys received um is is um it's very broadly uh interpreted uh this ordinance so that um
the Constitutional measures that uh you guys are stamping on here are just outrageous and the the broad and arbitrary prohibition is prima fasi unconstitutional and represents a Content based restriction on speech that
the Supreme Court has repeatedly stuck down the ordinance violates um the the uh Reed versus uh the town of Gilbert that uh uh the other gentleman already spoke to the ordinance violates uh uh
McCullen versus Colley and also Carrie versus brown and the government cannot impose restrictions on speech that are based on subject matter Viewpoint and identity of the speaker and as far as the Jewish Community being threatened
here if they would stop having stolen land sales illegal stolen land sales in synagogues then there would be no need to have these protests but it's actually the illegal sale of stolen Palestinian land that is the reason that these
protests have happened and they hide them in synagogues to try to restrict the attendance to um people who uh are uh uh um validated through their uh Jewish
Orthodoxy that they can attend which is a violation of civil rights and real estate law um for them to restrict the attendance at these events uh these illegal sale events but while there's a genocide going on in Palestine uh the uh
people here continue to try to sell stolen Palestinian land illegally and hiding them in the um synagogues and in Jewish centers and other places that's the only reason those protests happen there if they had the protest at a
public hall then we would be protesting in the public hall thank you Mrs fry sir good evening mayor council members my name is David buner and I'm a te resident raise it
up okay David buner te resident and uh I think that the previous speaker made the point very well that the reason that we need a an ordinance regarding
demonstrations is not because of an attempt to to reduce Free Speech but an attempt to reduce intimidation and threats that are an attempt to disrupt people's ability to express their first amendment rights and
I think that one of the problems with many of the people who have objected to this ordinance is that they haven't read it uh there's talk about it being Viewpoint discrimination I have read the ordinance and it is content neutral this
is an attempt among other things to give clear guidance to the law enforcement agencies which is very important I'm an attorney one of the things that I know even as a defense attorney is that police need clear guidance as to what they're allowed to do what the rules are
that they're supposed to be enforcing and I think that this is a measured attempt to balance competing interests so that people are allowed to express their first amendment rights while at the same time not be intimidated or harassed in their attempts to go about
their daily lives and to have peace and quiet in residential areas at night or to be able to uh have activities in in their in their U houses of worship which is also a First Amendment right and
therefore I expected that I was going to be here to enjoy seeing the council uh supporting this this uh proposal proposal and I'm a little disappointed that it hasn't happened but I am hoping that after the attempt after the um
ability for further reflection and further uh advice from outside Council that perhaps that will provide um more that will that will give people better perspective and we'll be able to revisit the issue thank you thank you Mr
W Mr K next good evening Mr chairman members of the council thank you for your time and your participation I have a couple of comments first is a longtime T name for the record I'm sorry excuse me name for the record I'm sorry I'm sorry Jeffrey canowitz 158 marrison Street tck New
Jersey as a long time up sorry we're pausing the clock fan doesn't want me to speak no no [Music] yeah just turn it off sorry guys sorry give it just a second you're going to turn that off and then listen to my hot
air no we're constantly improving council chambers forgive us sorry oh go go ahead it's all you it's okay thank you Mr chair Mr Mayor and members of the count Council um I have
two point three points to make tonight number one um congratulations on moving forward on the vote Park um uh Redevelopment of the ball fields I'll only make one observation and I credit uh speaker before in the TBO about all of his work can we please get a couple
of batting cages everybody who does baseball coaches and I've coached for 10 years will tell you every other town has batting cages AA has batting cages it is sorely sorely sorely lacking and I would like to suggest that who's ever working on that committee and getting into details find somewhere to put batting
cages in the corner of the field second um I Echo Rabbi fridman's comments about uh disappointment in the um lack of moving forward I'm not a constitutional scholar I'm just a regular lawyer and um
these things are very shaded and at the end of the day what five people in the Supreme Court say it's constitutional is constitutional we can all debate it but I don't see why it couldn't have been move forward at least and then in the interim get a constitutional specialist to look at it render an opinion and move forward and the third thing I'm going to
say is this and I was not expecting to it I'm a proud Jew I'm a proud American I refuse to sit silently in a public forum and use the word genocide misused misrepresented having to do with a conflict going on in the Middle East for
the last 16 months I will not sit silent I will express my opinion and tell you that anybody of any measure of modom and it's my opinion of experience and understanding of the international human rights definition of genocide knows that
there is no genocide going on I did not plan to say that say that tonight but I just will not sit silently by and hear that th thrown around thank you my name is Elliott Burman I'm a lawyer have lived in EK with my wife for almost
30 years and I've raised my three children here I'd like to thank the township manager and the EK Police Department for protecting the township I'd also like to thank the council for giving of your time to make tin the best town it could be almost a year ago on
March 19 2024 I spoke Al be it on Zoom at a Township council meeting you could look it up on YouTube at around three hours and 20 minutes into the meeting was around 11:20 p.m. I said then quote I think you will all agree with me that something has to change tck should not
be exposed to what it was subjected to on Sunday March 10th and the threat that anything like that will continue in our residential neighborhoods and outside houses of worship close quote as I'm sure you remember on March 10th 2024 there was an anti-semitic protest stage
outside of synagogue in Tink as I am sure you also know there shortly thereafter on April 1st 2024 there was another anti-semitic protest H held out outside another synagogue and tck back on March 19th uh 2024 I said that I
recognized that in America we must make sacrifices for the freedom of speech and that uninformed senseless hurtful and even vile speech is also protected but I respectfully asked the council over 11 months ago to quote call upon the Township's attorney to find a way to
return peace to the residential streets and the houses of worship in EK I said then that the United States Supreme Court has repeatedly stated that government May impose time place and manner restrictions on speech in a public forum of course the restrictions
need to be content neutral such that ten could not prevent demonstrations that do not incite violence that support the KKK Hamas or other organizations deemed by the United States and other countries around the world to be terrorist organizations but residential
neighborhoods and outside houses of worship are not the places for demonstrations the town green and other public spaces could be used I said then that the United States Supreme Court has said that noise traffic control and Public Safety are all content neutral
reasons to impose restrictions as on where speech may occur as a third circuit the federal Appel court that covers New Jersey has stated quote the right of free speech does not Encompass the right to cause disruption I now see today that an
ordinance was discussed that imposes well accept accepted time place and manner restrictions from marches protests and other large Gatherings on TX public streets and sidewalks specifically protecting houses of worship and private residences from being targeted and harassed so I came
here to say it's a little late but better late than ever and urge the council to unanimous unanimously Advance his ordinance to a final vote as soon as possible as we heard tonight TX should be known for Salif main world record holder in the triple jump and not for
protests that houses of worship and private residences thank you m good evening Council Emma haritz EK resident the failure of this Council to introduce the time place and manner ordinance tonight is deeply unfortunate
AKA Shapiro a renowned constitutional expert who worked on this ordinance is sitting here in the audience tonight the idea that he is not independent is bizarre and I have to wonder to whom anyone thinks he is beholden is this because he graciously volunteered his time and did the work on this ordinance
pro bono further is there any credible argument that this ordinance is unconstitutional I have not heard one to date from a credible Source but I have heard many armchair constitutional lawyers weigh in here and on social media similar to the armchair Public Health experts we all got to know and
love during covid with generalities misleading statements and innuendo I wonder what this delay will cost us in terms of the public trust and Public Safety to say nothing of what any additional cost to the township will be constitutional lawyers don't come cheap
and rejecting one willing to work for free because you are looking for an excuse to reject an important ordinance that tck needs strikes me as setting a dangerous precedent I hope that whatever unspecified issues members of this Council had with this ordinance will be resolved to your satisfaction very soon
I remember standing outside a synagogue in March 24 listening to people call for my death and the deaths of my family and friends I stood with two of the council members here tonight there was a sense of urgency that day to help TX Jewish Community express our first amendment
rights to assemble and worship freely and without harassment what has happened to that sense of urgency if this has been under discussion for months already did this idea just occur tonight and if so why is that Public Safety and preserving the rights of your constituents are simply the most basic
parts of your job and your electorate is watching thank you thank you m Hartz anybody else like to speak Mr ran Paula Roven um the tenek peace and Justice vigil
calls on this Council to reject the proposed changes in the TX protest ordin TX protest ordinance orance in the proposed ordinance the term special event includes any parade wathon bikeathon or jogging group block
party March assembly I'm reading from the ordinance demonstration protest or other organized group having a common purpose or goal proceeding along a public Street a public sidewalk or other public RightWay in the township of
tck we see this proposed ordinance at this time as intimidation no different from the intimidation we're seeing coming from the musk Trump Administration we see it as an attempt to silence not all voices
but only certain voices voices with whom you disagree protest comes in all different forms in tck it has been through ART music vigils dance concerts marches walks C Caravans and elections that's
what so many of us love about Teck there have been many many Gatherings immediately after events such as the horrific Slaughter at the synagogue in Pittsburgh or the killing of Philip panel in tinck it would be
unreasonable to have people wait 10 days to get a permit to have such a demonstration protesting these horrible horrible events I'm the co-founder of the tenek peace and Justice vigil which will hold
our 1020th consecutive Wednesday vigil tomorrow at the corner of tck Road and Liberty Road at our early vigils in 20 2005 many people shouted out from their cars and
called us unpatriotic some gave us the middle finger others once public learned that there had been no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq that changed and public support for our call public support grew for a call to
support the troops bring them home from Iraq and Afghanistan and take care of them when they got here we call continue our call for peace for stopping deportations for stopping cuts to veteran services at the VA service is
for those very same veterans who were in those Wars those in Iraq and Afghanistan and earlier Wars our vigil never had a permit we are peaceloving and peaceful rain excessive heat and snow do not stop
our Quest for Peace and Justice people don't who don't agree with our message are free to talk with us or shout out thank you Mr Orman thank you l Josh Berliner I'm a Teck
resident uh thank you council members and thank you neighbors picking up on Rabbi fredman's words of sacrifice today February 25th represents a grim anniversary for our
Township if anybody knows February 25th February 25th 5 th 29 years ago today EK resident Sarah duer was murdered by Palestinian terrorists from the internationally recognized terrorist
group Hamas a team that included Muhammad abua duer then 23 was with her boyfriend 25-year-old Matthew eisenfeld of Connecticut when a suicide bomber actually Abu warda's own cousin that he
recruited detonated an explosion that ripped through the bus they were riding on Jerusalem's jafa Road the couple were studying in Israel for the year and on their way to C Petra a historic City in southern Jordan Israeli authorities say the
bombing which killed 26 people was orchestrated by Muhammad Abu Warda he was captured in 2002 and sentenced for that incident in a second bus attack that left 19 others dead fast forward to today earlier this
month Abu wardo was released as part of the ceasefire announced between Israel and Hamas at the Gaza Carnival last week broadcast to the World by the aler network Abu wardo was honored with a seat on stage to cheer the paraded
coffins of odad lifshitz Ariel bibas kafir bibas and an unidentified gazen woman as they were loaded into the back of a Red Cross van Abu wardo was interviewed at the event where he expressed in enthusiastic commitment to continue his maab hobby I hope his
misplaced enthusiasm does not compromise the ceasefire that so many Teck residents and non-resident protesters so vifly hoped for around our town but back to Sarah Sarah duer graduated from Barnard College in 1995 while at Barnard
Sarah was an active Community member and worked as a tutor at ps125 where she taught reading to third and fourth graders s was a lover of peace and Justice and wanted everyone to be treated with respect she was a talented writer and scientist with a wide range
of intellectual interests Sarah was awarded departmental honors and environmental science and was elected to F beta Kaa the statue in her memory was erected outside the EK library to educate residents about her life and memorialize her forever Outsiders come into our town
intimidate residents impede movement and spread hate they want want us to forget but we will never forget my heartbreaks for our family my heartbreaks for our community thank you thank you Mr BL anybody else like to speak
ma'am good evening my name is yudit Robinson and I live with my husband and children in tenk I'm here in person to implore you to bring the proposed ordinance for time
place and manner of protests to this esteemed chamber to protect all residents since October 7th I experienced a level of fear here that I never had before is the fear of not knowing when outside agitators will come
to tck not knowing how many will join and not knowing whether their threats might translate to physical action there have been too many times that I have avoided certain streets at certain times of day and have kept my kids cloistered inside the house on sunny days just to
be safe on those days I have also had to ask my husband to consider covering his yamaka with a baseball cap just to be safe several months ago I stood with hundreds of teenic residents outside of benu in a t synagogue staring in
disbelief at non-residents who came to agitate about International matters not outside the United Nations or offices of government officials but rather against the local Jewish Community even though they knew we lack the power to control Foreign Affairs the agitators Disturbed
a quiet residential neighborhood in the evening disrupting parents putting their kids to bed there are respectful ways of celebrating First Amendment freedoms including the right to protest that protect all residence the proposed ordinance is modeled on one that was
created in hackin sack in 2021 a similar ordinance was introduced in Bergenfield last week police continue to consult with constitutional Specialists to ensure that the proposed ordinance fully meets
everyone's needs I'm pleading with the Town Council to also enforce requirements for protesters to obtain permits unfortunately there were too many times that outside agitators did not abide by this basic requirement please keep in mind that the
police overtime fees are ultimately going to be passed down to us residents but none of the outside agitators are footing the bills that are required to keep us residents safe let us unite as a community and find safe legal First
Amendment constitutionally approved ways for those who wish to protest to gather in a way that honors our community's values of basic decency and neighborliness thank you thank you Mr Robinson anybody else like to
speak Miss Shields good evening mayor Schwarz and council members my name is KH Shields and I'm a tink resident I thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak tonight for those who have been watching this seemingly well-coordinated attempt this week on social media and tonight to
sabotage this ordinance based on misinformation I would like to clarify the misinformation you here ing it seems that our Township attorney was put on the spot earlier the attorney's draft of the ordinance was revised based on Council input just like they would do for any other ordinance he also
consulted with attorney Akiva Shapiro who's a First Amendment expert at Gibson dun the township didn't hire him because he offered his Services pro bono and no it won't affect your backyard movie nights or fire pits or your small running groups larger activities were already included in the existing
ordinance on file and note the case some speakers pulled from Google was not the same as it contained content-based restrictions which this does not what it will do is prevent harassment of minority groups and religious groups when it comes to the support of a community it is not about publishing
articles writing letters and making speeches about your advocacy action speaks louder than words when did we become a society that is only concerned with protecting the rights of bull of the bully instead of the targeted I've heard claims by a lot of
non- lawyers this week that this opens up up to lawsuits and I want to address that I'm not a lawyer either but I do know that any law can open a Township up to lawsuits if we were to abstain from putting any ordinance on the books because a group will sue then we will have a lawless Society in fact
unanimously Bergenfield unanimously introduced a very similar ordinance last week people will claim it's a different ordinance but I challenge you to actually read them both for yourselves and not to believe people's unsubstantiated comments I had up a group that was formed in the aftermath of October 7th to combat the
anti-Semitism with which our community has been targeted we sent a letter encouraging councel to pass this ordinance because it will protect our community as well as any other community who is targeted by people who want to impinge upon their rights at the same time we will always keep our hand outstretch to any group that wants to
have an honest conversation and work towards Harmony and we appreciate those who have done already done so in closing I would like to make something Crystal clear the people who came here to object to the ordinance aren't here because of First Amendment rights they are here because they want to preserve the right
to harass a community based on that community's beliefs and identity if they are allowed to continue to do so this puts every community at risk this puts every minority at risk it puts you at risk anybody else like to speak Council
map thank you mayor Schwarz and Council Keith Kaplan T resident you know there's a lot of hypocrisy that I've uh shown over time for several people that come up here to this microphone you're in favor of free
speech so the ordinance has to go when I came to this microphone and I condemned the people that drove through this town in cars em blazed with globalized the inat the mere
mention of jihad Jane was enough to make them condemn me I could not speak the words free speech for everybody except when it's something we don't like the
inata that they wanted to globalize is what killed Sarah duger who the resident spoke about little earlier it was on the bus to my cousin's house I was there the year she died blown to Smither that's
what they are celebrating and you know what it's America they're allowed to celebrate it they're allowed to follow suicidal death Cults and cheer for them but you have a right to pray at a synagogue you have a right to pray at a
mosque you have a right to pray at a church and you have a right to do it under the first Amendment it's a cified right of free expression to pray and you can't do that if someone is standing next to you and
screaming someone screams in this Council room right now and shouts me down they get kicked out of this meeting because you're not allowed to shut someone down while they have the floor you have the floor in a synagogue you're supposed to be able to pray there this
ordinance if you actually read the damn words in it said says if you make a disruption a person outside holding up a sign is not disrupting a person with a megaphone so that you can't hear inside
is that's what this ordinance is made to do you say you're for free speech in naac PV Clayborn the Supreme Court said when the field secretary told the members of the NAACP if we catch you going into any of them racist stores
we're going to break your damn neck well you know what they said that's free speech are you gonna come up here and say this ordinance prohibits Free Speech but if I say anyone who says that you should break their damn neck will you
defend me because the fact is you hate Free Speech you're in favor of suicidal death Cults and like I said it's America you can do that it's my job to shout you down because you're in favor of suicidal death culture but you're not allowed to
get rid of an ordinance that merely prevents disruption at a house of worship thank you anybody else in Chambers Mr seagull hello my name is David seagull I'm a resident for about 30 years uh
first I'd like to say that I want to thank the uh Council for everything that you do um just addressing the uh the um ordinance for a moment uh obviously the decision is to go to another constitutional uh lawyer to get an
opinion I just encourage you to do that ASAP so we can move forward and address the substance of the ordinance rather than that that issue and obviously you see that it's important to so many people as I'm sure it's important to you as well so that if you can address that quickly so that we can move on and get
that passed on another note I just want to mention that as I said I've been here for 30 years I coached my children in TBO I'm coaching my granddaughter in TBO this summer and appreciate that everything that tck does to keep the
fields uh dry is uh appreciated and um we appreciate all the all the work that you're doing and that you're going to continue to do thank you thank you Mr seagull anybody else in Chambers like to speak see my hands we'll turn that over to zoom Mr clerk the floor is yours
no one we are bringing in Ellie cats oh great whoa sure most people don't want to bring him in they' like to show him the door what's your middle initial Ellie cats can you hear me yes loud and clear
what's what is it good evening Council my name is Ellie not yats I am reant of tenek the more popular ell cats I'd like to first thank the EK Police Department for their continued dedication to protect and serve the
residents of EK I'd also like to thank you members of council for your dedication to protecting our community and the Teek way of life I've spoken before this and prior councils in the past to requested continued development support protection and everything else that makes EK a place that we all call
home private events houses of worship religious or even secular groups should not have to hide and seek outside protection to live their lives this ordinance has been a long time coming regardless of race religion sexual orientation none of that matters the moment an individual or group decide
to impede the rights of private citizens and impose risks upon the public is where issues risks and liabilities arise your efforts in producing this ordinance demonstrate a strong commitment to the safety and well-being of all residents and I implore you to push this ordinance
through to continue to prevent disruption to disruption to the Teck way of life just like Bergenfield and many other public bodies have done so I have no issue with demonstrations parades or Collective groups doing their thing go for it just do it the right way with
approvals protections from liability risk and even more importantly hate enough with the harassment hate has no place in tck we truly appreciate your leadership and advocacy in making tck a better place for everyone on a separate note we need to give our youth more
opportunity to play to to be youth I fully support the votey field upgrades thank you for your time this evening we have Deborah bber one minute sorry trying to get this to work hi good evening Deborah blerg tck resident um first of all um back in
2020 I was actually small a group of uh women who held a protest outside the Board of Education in order to get school buildings open so the kids could go back to school because whilst we the other children were in school the public school children weren't had to become a
public health expert anyway I would like to first of all thank you for just taking a minute and making sure that this ordinance is correct so it doesn't make us a focus so we don't have people busting themselves in to object to it it
needs to be perfect not good enough it is as simple as that and I appreciate the fact that you are taking the time you're going to get someone independent because again there has to be transparency and people like me yes I'm
suspicious I'm naturally suspicious it's what I do it's how I dealt with the school board during covid and it's how I deal with when things are not right so I appreciate the fact that you have actually done um that you're you're
actually doing this because hang on a minute sorry I can't read my notes I apologize anyway just make sure that you get it right nobody wants any of this I don't I have been attacked I have been verbally abused I have dealt with some
horrific situations as we dealt with Public Schools however things are calm things are quiet let's get it right so we don't have people coming in and causing other issues that's all is is not an attack on anybody whatever it's
just get right and be transparent I've screamed for transparency on the board of education and I've worked really hard to make sure there are people there that will be transparent and I pray that this
Council can get themselves together get over their humps and figure it out because when you work together you can do some great things so that's all I ask right now I did have some great quips but they're all gone out the window
because can't read the notes so have a good evening and again just get it right so people like me people who are curious who are maybe not always going to fall into line won't have those questions thank you we are bringing in zad please
correct my pronunciation if it's not correct you are welcome to do that hello my name is zad malah TK resident of 17 years this proposed protest policy shouldn't even be entertained the fact
that we are today discussing what is so overtly an attempt to restrict free speech is absurd the mere discussion of this policy as though it has any validity serves to normalize the stripping of our constitutional rights
let me restate this not only is this ordinance unethical it is unconstitutional the Township's attempt to establish policy which it can leverage against speech they deem offensive is wrong the mayor has previously stated how the council enforces policy selectively against
certain protests because he disagrees with their messaging this is textbook discrimination and if the council chooses to approve it it is a lawsuit waiting to happen any ordinance can appear to be content neutral but this Township has
already deployed selective enforcement as a tactic to restrict protests this policy is overtly wrong unconstitutional and a recipe for disaster and ten residents deserve better and this Council should know better thank you bringing in Jasmine Ray
can you hear me yes loud and clear whenever you're ready three minutes okay my name is Jasmine Ray I'm a t resident and I'm going to keep it short and sweet this ordinance is a wolf's and sheep's clothing any infringement on
constitutional rights allowed to stand only provides an opportunity for more and more rights to be eroded in this town and everywhere else in this country we do not need an ordinance we need Common Sense protests are when the people take
their streets and use their voice for a clear and United purpose to share a message that people refuse to have ignored any longer and Schwarz Oregon and cats you cannot steal your constituent's voice you cannot take our rights and you
cannot stop the people I yield my time bringing in atika bringing in atika give us one minute technological lag moving from one
side to the other it takes a second aita can you hear me you're free to unmute um hi my name is AA gja I'm actually from East Brunswick um but I've been to TX several times a lot of uh family and friends in that area and um I
guess all you know I definitely um oppose I staunchly oppose this this ordinance um and I I do think it affects all of our communities uh throughout New Jersey and in the United States of America because it is unconstitutional it will strip our rights First Amendment
rights to free speech um and assembly so um I absolutely oppose it I'm appalled that you guys are even um considering it to be an ordinance on your agenda in the future so um I would oppose that even ever getting on the agenda I just wanted to I guess maybe the only Insight I can
share is that I've been to um uh couple of protests in the last two years in Teck uh for Palestine and what I can just share with you with the Town Council because I don't know if any of you guys have been to any of these events um they are some of the most
violent scary events that I've ever been to I've been to tons of protests now for Palestine New York City ones um in my own town in East Brunswick um there's never a threat in terms of our family safety we can bring our children to
these events um they're a great place for Community where we get together we can have speeches and talk and learn and um and share in in solidarity for the causes that are important to us and to our community and we have every right in America to do that and we have to uphold
that right because that is what makes this country so special um in tenek those have been ated time and time again um to the point where I would never bring a child to any protest and tck um and I don't think that that's the that
is the reputation of tenek in New Jersey amongst in in Palestinian movement um I don't think that you guys want that necessarily that that type of reputation so I'm just alarmed that that's happening in the streets of tenek I know tenek is a very incredibly diverse um
town and extremely tolerant town and I think it should really stay that way so this is something that's going to um have an impact on that and I would I would I would advise you not to ever have such an ordinance um uh on on your agenda so um I staunchly oppose it I
hope to be able to continue to exercise My First Amendment rights in your town um I we always do so it um we always do so peacefully and um and it should always be kept like that so on on their side um they've used mega mega mega loud
speakers with music and so I mean just creating the most chaotic scene I would describe it as like hell on Earth is what it felt like to me being there um and that's not the te- neck that I think you want to have so um the if there's a safety threat it's always been from from that side as far as I'm concerned um and
I have not experienced that anywhere else not even in New York City the way that we do in Tac so thank you so much for listening good night we have sharuk aala good evening Shuka the Latina president I'm speaking to shed light on why it's
the right decision to not move forward with the proposed changes to chapter 31b I want to point out that this is what becomes of our meetings when Council brings an ordinance like this while the ordinance's goal is to protect the constitutional rights its Broad and
vague language threatens Free Speech a creates a lot of unnecessary barriers to Civic engagement first you could look at the definition of special event you'll see that it's far too broad requiring permits for nearly any Gathering and I know we said we're not talking about
backyard parties and those types of gatherings but when the language is so vague I think that causes a lot of issues peaceful protests and small assemblies should not need government approval second the ordinance grants too much discretion to officials using vague
terms like reasonably calculated uh who's to justify like those permit conditions without clear objective standards enforcement cannot can be arbitrary and unfair this is going to open the town to a lot of discrimination
lawsuits third the 300 foot buffer zone around religious institutions it goes far beyond legal precedent the Supreme Court struck down a 35 buffer as unconstitutional so in our ordinance in t this would be nearly 10 times that
finally the ordinance's unclear penalties I know the whole goal is to discourage public participation but in Tek I know it's always been valued uh the Civic engagement the ordinance undermines that Legacy please reconsider these unconstitutional restrictions and
ensure that any regulations truly protect Public Safety without silencing our voices I appreciate that you're taking the time to actually reach out to professionals that might know a little better about this just to ensure that the right wording is there thank you
good night thank you we have John Moscow John you're free to unmute my name is John Moscow I've been a tck resident for more than 30 years I'm a proud Joe and I think that I ask the council not to move forward with
this um proposed changes um it's blatantly unconstitutional as people have pointed out out which will in fact end up costing tck money uh as it attempts to defend it in court and there will be law suits if this is passed and
implemented um just cause uh referring to a couple of points as other speakers have the idea of having to apply for a permit to hold a demonstration 10 days in advance is is absolutely ludicrous um I can understand that if you're talking about a 10day permit for the Fourth of
July per uh parade or something like that you know there I'm sure there can be discussion of that but a 10-day um period of notice for a political demonstration uh is just blatantly um outrageous as is this uh as the previous
speaker mentioned uh setting 300 feet from a religious institution uh when in fact the Supreme Court's made very clear that um excuse me um much uh smaller buffer zones um are are not Constitution
um but I want to address this issue of demonstrations outside of religious institutions in this case sorry about that um particularly uh synagogues um as somehow being anti-semitic or somehow being violations of religious freedom as
TOA fry pointed out if you stopped selling illegal land on Stolen land in Palestine as part of ethnic cleansing you wouldn't have any demonstrations outside of synagogues I'm not a student
of Christianity but I understand that Jesus kicked the money changers out of the temple and that's exactly what we're talking about and the fact that none of the people who spoken uh supporting this resolution have cared to speak about the ethnic cleansing that is going on that
the Israeli government has acknowledged to be going on on the West Bank the genocide and yes I'm using the word genocide that's taking place in Gaza uh it seems to me there's an incredible amount of um hypocrisy going on here um
and that in fact it's Jews duty to take the term never again and apply it not only to Jews which I absolutely do but also to everyone else so I urge and I have no faith by the way that there would be impartial and neutral
permitting it's very clear that this is an attempt to silence what to some people is unpopular speech and to other people is absolutely morally and ethically mandated speech thank you okay Mr Clerk and okay see no one
else on Zoom make a mo close G welfare second um councilman Goldberg it brings me a lot of joy to see the field board which I recall there was a lot of push back about the creation when I came up with that idea 16 months ago um so I'm really happy to
see that everyone has a seat at the fields table and is working so well together I sat here on October 17th 2023 condemning Kamas while outside these Chambers people were chanting words lifted directly from the Kamas Charter that from River to se Palestine will be
free free of what free of Jews that's not a call for peace it's not a call about Justice it's about the destruction of Israel and the Jewish people and today we Face another painful reality as Mr biner and Mr mentioned thank you for mentioning my babysitter Sarah she was all of those
amazing things and she should be living today with her fiance Matthew her convicted murderer walked free from prison so that innocent hostages could come home that is who the Jewish people are remember that tomorrow Jews worldwide will cry out in agony as Sheri
Ariel and F bbas are laid to rest innocent babies taken as hostages and strangled in captivity with the bare hands of evil men that is the world we live in a world where Jewish lives are taken and forgotten a world where hatred is excused Justified and encouraged let
me be Crystal Clear these protests are anti-semitic when they say Zionist they mean Jew when they stand in these Chambers and say the Jews of EK onean anti-Semitism they're not debating Middle East policy they are spreading one of the oldest anti-semitic lies that
Jews bring hatred upon themselves that is the language of Kamas of kolah of Adolf Hitler and the Nazis and the language of those who have spent decades calling for Jewish Annihilation I support tx's entire Jewish community and its synagogues I stand firmly against
anti-Semitism and I sit in this seat also to protect the township of tenek as a whole when I took office just as everyone else on this day said we all sore to uphold the Constitution of the United States and that is why we must have an independent attorney not representing anyone else in this town
guiding this entire Council and creating the tools that we need to fight hate this hate needs to be stopped but this ordinance is not the way to fight hate I want to be clear a substantial portion of this ordinance was not written by the township attorney or any attorney hired by the township this ordinance on the
agenda is not how government should function law isn't passed based on threats of legal repercussions for not doing as we're told they are passed smartly this is not how we fight anti-Semitism if we ignore it it won't go away if we ignore it they still won't vote for us this law does not allow us
to ban Free Speech the First Amendment does not require speech to be moral kind or just it just requires it to be lawful I have been told to go back to aitz I have been told our hostages are dead I have been told that there are those who
wish me dead like the Nazis because I am one and there are those in this room that said nothing as those things were said to me I condemn every single lie they scream as much as I want nothing more to stop them from targeting the Jewish Community I cannot pass a law that has clear constitutional issues if
we want to fight anti-Semitism we have to fight it where it counts I will continue to pass Ira in the state level as the only elected member that has testified at the IRA hearing so that our government calls Jew Hate by its name I will continue to call out every single
politician leader and activist who refuses to acknowledge anti-Semitism or tells us to move on or calls it International politics no I won't stop talking about anti-Semitism I will keep showing up every time even if I'm the only one who Bears witness and if we truly want to stop hate it cannot only
be the jewi Community speaking out our friends and neighbors must call it out too so thank you again to my friend councilman Pagan for standing up against hate and refusing to stay silent when so many others have this fight is far from over I do not cower in the face of those who seek to intimidate the Jewish
Community we will not be erased not today not tomorrow not ever thank you Council mberg Council G uh just want to say thank you to everyone for coming out and sharing your thoughts um on the items on the agenda
and more um I wanted to clarify to you Mr Rose um the statement again about the subcommittees and the transparency I fully support transparency but I I want to make sure that all seven of us feel comfortable with the the path forward that we choose um you know I think some
of my colleagues provided some really good examples of where um we might not have achieved successful um uh uh negotiations had these meetings been in public and so there's something to we need to talk through what's the best way to do that
um I again I'm largely in support of the ordinance as drafted and I look forward to the task force coming back to us with some suggestions on how to move forward um reg regarding the ordinance um again the intent of this PO this ordinance I
think was was coming from the right place um it it pains me to hear that uh our residents don't feel safe um and that they they feel harassed um in places of worships in front their homes um at the same time we have to make sure
that any law we pass is constitutional and so I really look forward to bringing in um the experts um to talk to us a little bit more about how we can ensure that whatever ordinance we consider is in fact constitutional um thank you thank you councilman G Deputy Mayor vure
okay yes I just also want to thank um my neighbors for coming out and speaking um speaking out a couple things um Trans areny in government is is vitally important uh it is something that uh I don't care how many times we have to go back to the um drawing board we will do
that until we get it right because I feel as if um the subcommittees uh it you know everyone has a right to know what's going on within government uh I'm committed to that and we'll continue to work to see that uh things are uh continue to be transparent um The Swim
Club committee I'm I'm so glad that we've made the progress that we we've made um the collaboration has been great uh I I Envision the day where we can uh we will see the t uh T High School uh all of our school uh students throughout the township can uh and families can
partake um so I'm super excited about the upcoming season uh and and you I I've said many times that I'm determined to see an Olympic uh swimmer perhaps a gold medalist that comes out of um that swim club uh or the the uh our Township
Swim Club um I I'm excited also to know that um there is um interest in in the Housing Authority uh Mr Rose we have had differing opinions in terms of how we go about uh you know ensuring that our
residents can get preferential treatment on uh on affordable units um I think that perhaps maybe one of the very first things that maybe our Redevelopment agency can explore is is there a way in which that can be done because as you
all can see we put an inordinate amount of hours into this job uh and as a result of that I would certainly want to see that our our residents are given some type of preference uh if we're putting uh these hours into Master plans
and into uh Redevelopment plans and so forth why not give our residents some type of um leg up on on housing um I want to say that um I believe and I always have believed that uh our residents every resident has a right to
be safe uh in our Township however freedom of speech is the Cornerstone of what we swore an oath to what I swore an oath to when I uh have taken on any type of uh position uh
I think it's vitally important that we consult with our subject matter experts people that we pay people that work for us not a working you know for free or anything but a working for us I will always feel uh able to turn to any of our attorneys and ask them questions is
it legal what are our options what do we do uh and so forth and I feel that that's something that that we we have an obligation to you as residents to do um we swore an oath to the Constitution it's the baseline from which we measure uh things um you know this being black
history month I'm I'm just looking at Dr King's uh his statement about the only weapon that we have in our hands this even even is the weapon of protest that's what Dr Martin Luther King said that is the that is the means by which
people can express themselves the voiceless can express themselves so we want to make sure that that whatever we do it's constitutional and I think that um that's the that's what our obligation is to to who we serve so here again
thank you thank you for coming out tonight and um God bless thank you Deputy Mayor Bel so um we brought this ordinance forward uh in January and we've had I think three meetings since then tonight I was
asking for approval not not to introduce it but to put it on the agenda to then introduce it in two weeks to then discuss it for another two weeks and um adopt it if we could and so uh talk of
transparency and talk of free speech um Talk of suppression um I this just seems like a case in that there's no reason tonight why we couldn't have agreed to put this ordinance on the next agenda to then discuss it and still hire
an attorney in that time um I I don't like um we have many Volunteers in this town who give so much of their time and many of them are case study experts and I I wish to thank AKA Shapiro so much for for being willing to answer any
question question we had any question scottt had any question anybody in town that brought up to us a serious question had um I am disappointed in my colleagues that nobody brought anything forward until now um and this was on the agenda Thursday I would have liked to at
least see the grace of allowing it to be put on the agenda for um discussion and um I find that very frustrating I think that we have a job here to do um our job is to protect the residents it's to to
uh um to to vote on ordinances and to make the law and that's our job U not to go to protests um and challenge people there but we sit right here with the opportunity to work with an attorney and to spend the taxpayers money to protect
them in our own way and I think that's what we should be doing um it doesn't matter what color clothing we're wearing or if we're painting our nails at the end of the day our job is to come here and to pass ordinances to protect the people in town and to keep our Workforce safe thank you everyone thank you for
everyone coming out thank you for the respectful dialogue um while you may seem Deputy May Oregon frustrated I'm actually super optimistic about this I think we heard some good comments from the uh from the council and I think when that constitutional lawyer comes back
and in my opinion gives a blessing that we will have a 7 nothing unanimous ordinance it's an ordinance you worked hard on so I'm looking for a full support once we have that blessing and I think that blessing we will have um just to end up my comments just a little jumping on to the Housing Authority the
Housing Authority indeed gives us the ability to have preference to a residents however any affordable housing that's built under the Housing Authority that counts to the numbers that we required to have under the Laurel Hill Mount Laur whatever we're calling it
nowadays Co um the council affordable housing cannot be specific to the township so we could build a th units dedicate them all to our tck residents but they cannot count towards that
382 or so number that we have um but we'll hear more about that with our Redevelopment committee and whatnot Redevelopment agency so with that U being said I'll turn it over to um the next part of our meeting which will be the consent agenda and the bill
list Mr H take it away the bill in the amount of 5,823 th000 $ 32529 and the resolution that we added uh earlier this evening 100 dash thank you
2025 Council Mr wait Mr Mayor can we just pull 95225 yeah 95 will pull anybody else pull anything okay with that will entertain a motion to approve 94 96 97 98 99 100 in the bill list in the amount that was listed I'll make that motion
what was the 100 uh 100 was Travis Meyer okay field Advisory Board fine do I have a second on my motion we pulled 95 95 is being pulled so we have a second we all the approval on everything but 95 in the
bill list second by Cil member g roll call please councilman Goldberg yes to all exstension on the bills list councilman Pagan Mr clerk I'm abstaining on the bill list and voting yes on everything else councilwoman G
yes councilman cats abstention on the bill list and abstention on 98 2025 Deputy Mayor beler yes Deputy Mayor Oregon yes to all mayor Schwarz yes to everything I will be abstaining on the
last of the Jewish link ads Jewish link is no longer in advertise is no longer the newspaper record so that balance of ads is under 25 695 and 25737 and my and so I'm not sure if that
passes without someone else Ellie can you vote for the Jewish link yes I vote for the Jewish link and we'll go back to 95 to council mberg so really quick so I don't know if everyone remembers last year um Mr vaty
came to uh Chambers to talk about CSX and on the payments here um there is a payment to CSX so through Mr batky and the help of Doug and Dean we were able and Scott we were able to locate the 100y old contract where we're paying
that but I know we've been asking the attorney and he's been talking to CSX it seems that we're upholding our end of the contract to pay them the $1,500 a year but they're responsible for infrastructure improvements uh it's a 100-year old contract and I believe that
that we were asking them to reimburse us on the State Street bridge if it wasn't the pedestrian bridge that um needed to be improved and I would like to make a motion that we pass everything except for the CSX payment um because they're not upholding their end of the contract
so I would ask the attorney go back to them to see what they say but we're paying them and they're not upholding their end of the contract is there a problem with that Mr attorney on any not a problem no let's call the roll call on ratifying all the payments except for
the $1,500 in CSX as moved by councilman Goldberg and seconded by councilman P just exact what do we want to do with that 1500 just pull it out and table it until Scott comes back like I said we're not it's a contract and we're paying them
but they're not abiding by it yeah I agree with council member Goldberg on that but approving everything else yeah and that was uh first from who I'm sorry Council MCG second from councilman beon is there a timeline on that is
there because we're basically not paying a bill until we hear back from the attorney you want to explain what it is right we're paying them so Deputy Mayor belter there's um I can forward the bill that Issa sent me so it's from this
contract we're required to pay for wires and um sewer something with the with the trains um as part of the township allowing them to build the the rail um
again it goes back to 1925 I think it was it was literally it was but so part of the other part of that contract was that they have to pay for infrastructure improvements and in early 2000s correct me if I'm wrong
council member cats um we actually were able to get them to pay for the underpass improvements by holding them to this contract I mean it took a couple years but we were able to do it and saved Millions um and we're paying I mean it's a small amount of money but we're up holding our end of the contract
and they're not and I think that you know we owe our residents yeah I I get that but what I'm saying is that because this is a you know a historic kind of contract is there a certain timeline that you I mean you feel that they're going to respond to Mr
attorney off um a specific day on how long it's going to take them to respond but I think I can hopefully get an answer for you in the next St Tuesday in the next in the next few days I can I'll reach out to them and see how see when they can can when when they expect that
they can get back to us okay thank hey R call that please second from Council counil woman Goldberg yes councilman pan yes sorry about that councilman G yes councilman Catz yes de May beler yes may Oregon yes mayor
Schwarz yes introduction of ordinances Mr clerk is one to be introduced yes we have this evening the one and only ordinance 16-22 amending the township code to revise Recreation
fees okay motion to introduce second R call Mr clerk counil woman Goldberg yes Council be yes Council woman G yes councilman Catz yes D May beler
yes D May Oregon yes mayor Schwarz yes I'll entertain a motion to adjourn second all in favor I people on camera want to hear a vote roll call we're noding heads know I saw all the nodding heads thank you have a good night
everyone me