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hey hey Hey hey and it's great to see so many people here today i have to say before we start that if you are going to suffer any kind of medical episode or if if you need to report a crime or if you need a tree
you're in the right place tonight so um uh this is a very it's very nice to see all of our employees out here and and so thank you for being here uh we have some distinguished honored guests here that we're going to uh recognize tonight so um I told you to silence your electronic
devices and if you would please stand and join me in the invocation lord we ask you to be with us tonight as we work together towards the common good we ask you to guide government leaders throughout the world that they may advance peace and human dignity for all we ask especially for
your blessings upon the members of the Florida legislature as they work to find the difficult balance between statewide policies and local autonomy finally we pray that the Jewish members of our community have a healthy and holy Passover season and that our Christian neighbors have a blessed Holy
Week and Easter amen i pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all
so for those of you who don't frequently visit with the city council at our meetings and I don't blame you at all um but we have a tradition here that we open our meetings with a u a fun or interesting or historical fact concerning City of Temple Terrace or the
region that we live in and so tonight uh that duty falls upon Council Member Kravitz council member I can save everyone a little bit of time because my last recollection on this was that someone was going to stand in for me and I think they they might have not done that so I don't What's that i'm right here you are right there oh wonderful
well um come right up they shouldn't have called on me then floor's yours whatever time I have I seated it good evening Amy you want to tell everybody who you are my name is Amy Hutchaw i'm the public safety telecommunications supervisor with the city um I was
promoted back in March of 2024 and I'm here tonight to present the fun fact for this evening's meeting and since it is National Public Safety Telecommunications Week I had planned on providing a fun history on Temple Terrace's 911
center however our history is somewhat of a mystery and in my search for information I was only able to determine that we took our first 911 call in September of 1988 911 became the official emergency number
in 1998 when Bill Clinton signed it into legislation so we were ahead of the game a little bit there about 10 years however before that we operated with one officer manning a radio and a phone line possibly where the current library sits
today from what I've been told um so I redirected as we put your microphone on Amy what light on in the middle of your speaker in the middle of the speaker the little red button [Music] there you go hello okay good
um so however before that we operated with one officer manning a radio and a phone line possibly where the current library sits today and uh with little information to go on from there I re redirected as we always do in dispatch so started looking at our present and
our future trying to come up with a really fun fact to share with all of you turns out there's not a lot of fun in talking about emergencies or statistics or House bills so I would like to share that I'm very excited about the public safety telecommunications
reclassification that's being voted on at the state level right now which appears that we will actually be reclassified as first responders as of July 1st this year um this will provide all of our dispatch centers in the state with better benefits and other
opportunities statistically I'd like to provide a little information on what it is like for our team on a daily basis our PAP answers 911 administrative lines police and fire radio at any given time there are usually two PSTs working on
the phones and the radio simultaneously in our center when I'm in the office I jump in answer calls dispatch jump on the radio as needed to help them out but in 2024 our team answered 20,958 911 calls with 100% of those
calls being answered in under 10 seconds in progress calls were dispatched in under 2 minutes and out of those calls 4,897 of them were fire medical which are dispatched in under 60 seconds
the unit answered 42,44 administrative calls aiding our residents in day-to-day activities so far in 2025 we have answered 5,10 911 calls
uh with 1,226 of those being fire and medical and 11,042 administrative calls so the pivotal role of our telecommunicators is in facilitating rapid responses and providing critical support during emergencies is commendable our team's
ability to remain calm collected and compassionate under pressure is the backbone of our community's resilience and safety and the Beatles classic help perfectly sums up what our dedicated headset heroes hear from callers every day that's your fun fact well thank you
thank you so at the risk of dating myself I can fill in a few blanks for you there because I I was at the sheriff's office prior to 911 coming around in 1988 and you did have a dispatch center it was just a phone number and a dispatcher not
911 um and at the sheriff's office we had a phone number you had the 2476411 i don't know why I still remember that but and then 911 came around in 1988 um at that time to make a phone call from here to the Plant City Sheriff's Office the office out there
was long distance and so you had to go to a place in dial one and um the area code to get to Plant City and um when they first went to 911 they wanted to put the word out so they put these really fancy looking stickers on the back fender of our patrol cars and it
was a sign of prestige of who was who if you had a car new enough to have a 911 sticker you knew that you were you know you were either a senior person or you knew somebody or whatever because you got a newer car and it was like a badge of honor to have the 911 sticker on your
car and those of us who were fairly new at the time we were driving like old relics and so we used to be in awe of the people that had the 911 sticker so just a little not the Temple Terrace thing but I'm sure it was the same here so thank you very much thank you so our
first order of business is a recognition a proclamation for Arbor Day and we have our city arborist Joe Ferris is here to receive the proclamation um and while he makes his way to the podium for those of you who don't know Mr ferris he's been with us quite some time and has a very popular
person in city government everybody in the city seems to know Mr ferris and his work with the trees uh very loved in the community um so hopefully you're going to stick around for a while because uh everybody knows our city arburist and and they have hold you in very high
regard as do we so and the proclamation is whereas in 1872 J sterling Morton proposed to the Nebraska Board of Agriculture that a special day be set aside for the planting of trees this holiday called Arbor Day was first observed with the
planting of more than 1 million trees in Nebraska arbor Day is now observed throughout the nation and the world trees can reduce the erosion of our precious top soil by wind and water lower heating and cooling costs moderate the temperature clean the air produce
oxygen and provide habitat for wildlife trees are renewable resource giving us paper wood for homes fuel for our fires and countless other wood products trees in our city increase property values enhance the economic vitality of business area and beautify our community
trees whenever they are planted wherever they are planted are a source of joy and spiritual renewal and a bunch of leaves now therefore I Andrew Ross by virtue of the authority vested in me as mayor of the city of Temple Terrace Florida do hereby acclaim April 22nd
2025 as Arbor Day and so Joe would you like to say a few words sure for this year's Arbor Day um we're doing a pretty cool event working with Corey from the Family Rec Center so we're wrapping it around the 100 years of the city celebration by giving away 100 orange
trees so I'll have Valencia orange trees available for residents on the 22nd from 4 to 8 and I believe Corey is going to speak a little bit later about some of the other things taking place it should be a really cool event this year very good thank you pretty exciting and on behalf of the council I just want to
thank you for all the work you do and and the way you treat our citizens it it gets back to us continuously so thank you for that yeah we had a really successful tree giveaway in March at 159 trees that day and another 149 Thursday will be the last delivery of those for
additional orders so it was a pretty good lot of work good turnout with a lot of trees getting out there so let's give him a round of applause [Applause] oh here she comes here got to get in the
center you can always tell all right one more i moved there you go thank you [Applause]
[Music] next we have a proclamation for law day how are we going to do this are you going to come down here or you want me to just read this to you we saw the deputy city attorney i'll come down there or I can stay here but if you want to read the proclamation first okay why
don't we do that we have our city attorney Mr shon is here and our deputy city attorney Ernie Mueller is also in the back of the room so this is for both of you uh says "Whereas President Eisenhower who as a five-star general during World War II saw firsthand what
happens when the rule of law breaks down proclaimed law day in 1958 to highlight the fundamental distinction between government based on force and government based on law in 1961 by joint resolution of Congress the 1st of May was designated
as the official day for law day the national day set aside for a national day set aside for people in the US to celebrate the legal process that contributes to the freedoms that all Americans share to appreciate their liberties especially regarding equality and justice and to cultivate respect for
the law the theme for law day 2025 is the Constitution's promise out of many one which in 1776 was adopted as the motto of the United States by representatives from 13 disperate but United States of America who declared
independence from a tyrannical king and proposed as their motto e pluribus unum or one out of one of me out of many one i'm better with the Latin than I am with the English a phrase symbolizing the unity of a nation founded on the
ideals of liberty equality and justice the drafters of the Constitution seeking to prevent tyranny by any one group separated the powers of the legislature the executive and the judiciary among three branches of government ensuring no
one faction could rule unchecked the United States has always consisted of many viewpoints religions experiences and the trajectory of this country has been to include more voices thus becoming a true representative democracy
of the many of the many as the American people have continued to pursue out of many one including with the 15th and 19th constitutional amendments by extending voting rights regardless of race or sex public education was
designed to serve as a unifying force providing an economic benefit instilling values of civic virtue and bringing social classes together to form one educated citizenry and we the people are united by our shared responsibility to
contribute to the common good through actions such as jury duty voting paying taxes military service and public service now therefore I Andrew Ross by virtue of the authority vested in me as mayor of the city of Temple Terrace Florida do hereby proclaim May 1st 2025
as law day so Mr shonne would you like to say a few words this is this is more about people and reflecting on what law means in in our society this is not really about lawyers
although there are 112,000 maybe plus lawyers in the state of Florida we're number four out of the states for how many lawyers we have um there's actually a love your lawyer day I discovered in November but we'll wait
for that skip that one so um but the the um on law day we as US citizens are supposed to explore and renew our duties to one another under the constitution and our democratic norms the constitution establishes a
framework for our government that unites us as one citizenry and as the mayor mentioned this is through means such as jury duty um voting um participating in a regular census
even and through this commitment to our union we each provide for the common good and thank you very much thank you Mr show and so [Applause]
be in it i don't know one more just in case you would expect the wordiest of them all that's true [Music]
next up is a couple of the my favorite duties or privileges really not duties or privileges as mayor having uh been to uh lots and lots of these recognition and awards ceremonies throughout my career i never dreamed in a million years that I would be sitting up here
and reading these and actually giving some of these awards out myself and so I'm very humbled when I get to this part of the year and do this um so Chief would you like to introduce the item absolutely this is for the 2024 Thomas L lewis
Police Officer of the Year and I'm going to allow our Chief of Police Rob Staley to introduce the item good evening everyone i'm truly honored tonight to present to before you our officer of the year officer Otalabib is an excellent officer and it's really a a
distinguished honor uh in our agency we have a board a panelist that sits there and reviews all of our awards throughout the year and it's a very difficult task to assign one award the officer of the year and truly Leb has uh come forward and and he's set himself apart from the
rest of the competition and you'll read about what the what the proclamation says what the numbers say but what the numbers don't tell you is that he was able to do all that without drawing negative attention he was able to enforce traffic laws and provide education and he was able to do so in
such a way of professionalism that no one ever complained on him he's he's always been the epitome of professionalism so I'm truly honored to present this award thank you Chief corporal would you please come to the podium ladies and gentlemen I'm going to read
uh some of the things that went into Corporal Levib's recognition for this award uh since the police officer of the year award recognizes exceptional service either through multiple instances of outstanding performance over the course of a year or through a
single act of exemplary service in the face of s significant difficulty or personal danger since joining the Temple Terrace Police Department on January 29th 2018 Corporal Atal Labib has consistently embodied our organization's
core values of courage honor and commitment throughout his career he has demonstrated outstanding performance in all areas of law enforcement continually working to improve both the department and the community he serves
in March 2023 Corporal Leibb was selected as one of the first officers to be assigned to the newly formed traffic unit the unit was created to reduce traffic related violations in the city of Temple Terrace and to ensure the safety of our community streets and
roadways in 2024 Corporal Labib completed an impressive 1,111 traffic stops resulting in 439 citations 662 written warnings and
numerous verbal verbal interactions aimed at educating the public on traffic safety he approaches each task with professionalism and dedication handling these responsibilities without issue or complaint his exceptional work ethic and
commitment to building a stronger and safer community are evident in all that he does corporal Labibb's significant contributions to the Temple Terrace Police Department the city of Temple Terrace and the law enforcement community are undeniable for these reasons Corporal
Labib has been awarded the Thomas L lewis Law Enforcement Officer of the Year Award for his outstanding actions in 2024 so thank you very much [Applause] corpal would you like to say a few words
i'm terrible with public speaking so I rather not but I will say something just pretend you're pulling us over you're apparently really good at that i just want to say thank you to the mayor the council members the city manager as well as my co-workers well some of them left but the ones that are here as well as uh
chief and the administration as well for their support without you guys all of you guys wouldn't be able to do my job so thank you well Corporal to do 12 almost 1,200 traffic stops and not generate complaints is incredible that that just
for the public who's watching and who are here um people are normally not happy when they get pulled over right they're not really they're not that's not a fun time and so it really says a lot about you and the professionalism of the department um to be able to
accomplish that and so um the the the public notices what you do we have a lot of support in this community for the police department and it's not because of us it's because of the things that you do so thank you very much thank you
one more thank you [Applause] one more equally as impressive Lieutenant Chris Stairs oh wait a minute
chief you want to introduce this for us please sure i'm sorry i'm going to let our uh our fire chief in Kemp is here to introduce the item forgive me this is a little new way of doing it this year so I'm sorry i would like to say uh uh one of those people he uh Corporal Labiba pulled over last year
was my wife and uh and she said he was the nicest guy in the world and she did not get a ticket because she was nice back but uh Lieutenant Sers one of the one of the difficult things that we do at the end of the year is uh is try to figure out
who the firefighter of the year is and and although we have 61 people in the fire uh fire fire department um you would think it'd be easy to do but it's a it's a difficult task and and prior to me becoming fire chief the fire chief would take on that task and look at the accommodations try to figure out who
that candidate would be for that year um we decided or um that we would we would put out a poll kind of a survey monkey to all the the people in the field that really knew what what our people did you know you think you know what everybody's doing out in the field but when you're in office most of the
day um um sometimes it's hard to to judge and uh this year um it was somebody similar that we we thought would be a good firefighter of the year candidate and it ended up being Chris Aers you know Chris Aers has done above and beyond one of the reasons um is why
he's a lieutenant today uh he helps out with our annual awards banquet he helps out with the benevolent um as you may know he's also uh the union president which is a is a thankless job 90% of the time um so uh
and and and if you talk to our medical director he's one of the best paramedics we have in the field so again you talk about no complaints and just just condolences and and uh admiration uh that's who Chris Sers is and and that's where we get the kind of feedback we get from our residents and visitors of city
of Temple Terra so I couldn't be more proud uh to announce this year's firefighter year is is Lieutenant Chris Aes thank you Chief [Applause] all right you're going to be doing squats cuz we got to do this again
where'd he go he's right there oh there he is come on up you moved i was Well Lieutenant um thank you for being here and and I'll tell you this is an honor in any department but one that you are
selected by your peers i can't think of any higher distinction than to be selected by your peers um that goes beyond I mean it's great when we recognize you and the chief and the command staff but when your peers recognize you you got to be doing something really special so um
Lieutenant Chris Sers is truly dedicated to the city of Temple Terrace and the citizen he citizens he serves he began his career with the Temple Terrace Fire Department in January of 2013 and was promoted to lieutenant in November of 2021 he proudly serves on the honor guard and
is the president of the Temple Terrace Professional Firefighters IIAFF local 2160 lieutenant Sers has distinguished himself by consistently going above and beyond in all aspects of his position his compassion professionalism and
respect for our citizens and visitors are evident both on and off duty in addition to his daily responsibilities Lieutenant Sers actively supports the fire department's events including the annual open house the awards banquet by producing a year in review v video
presentation lieutenant Sers is recognized for demonstrating exceptional leadership skills in guiding his team through challenging situations and fostering a positive and cohesive working environment his dedication to service and professionalism in handling emergencies and firefighting situations
attest to his commitment to excellence for his unwavering dedication exemplary leadership and commitment to the city of Temple Terrace its citizens and many co-workers I'm very proud to announce that Lieutenant Christopher Sers has been awarded the 2024 firefighter of the
year now let's [Applause] Lieutenant would you like to say a few words sure absolutely um for anybody that doesn't know I come from an extraordinarily large family my my parents had 14 children i have six
brothers seven sisters so I I have a good idea prior to coming here what a close family a close large family feels like um my experience over the past year we've been through some pretty good times some pretty tumultuous times and then some pretty pretty hard times
toward the end of the year and one of the consistent things that I saw in this department is what brought me here what kept me here and what makes me want to stay here until I retire is family i I truly saw people loving together i tr I
saw people working together i saw people serving together crying together laughing together i saw a family and I'm truly honored to be part of that family not just at the department level but at the city level we obviously had quite a bit of interaction with the uh with the
city this year and the cooperation the coordination the the just the the sheer cooperation level was and professionalism when dealing with something as difficult as a contract for us to everybody to come out the other side of it happy and smiling and and
getting through what we got through last year it's it's it's an it's an enormous honor to be standing here today with this award uh I imagine everybody that gets this award doesn't feel like they deserve it but um I'm I'm not alone in that uh but it it is an honor
nonetheless and and I can't say enough about the city of Temple Terrace the Temple Terrace Fire Department and my fire department family so thank you thank you Lieutenant [Applause]
one more one second thank you that was the first thing they said do we get to meet the mayor asked if I can be the firefighter of the year so pretty picture okay one more hold on
okay thank you that award This really [Music] broke all righty next up we have a presentation from the planning commission regarding a comprehensive plan update and I think our executive planner
Yianica Yikica Mills from the planning commission is here good evening Miss Mills and others yes I hear some promotions have been made over there congratulations to both of you yes good evening Yikica Mills Planning Commission staff uh thank you all for having us
here this evening uh to present on the Temple Terrace comprehensive plan update process um again with me I do have this evening uh Sean College who um is our um chief of planning and operations and I
believe he has a few words that he would like to say good evening Mr college long time since we've seen you here yeah yeah i'm excited to be back it's always great to be here in Temple Terrace i love it here love the food i'm going to go get something after this um thank you for having us let me just do a quick
introductory remarks um appreciate you guys having us here tonight to talk about the update of the Temple Terrorist Comprehensive Plan um the planning commission as you know performs long range planning services for Temple Terrace as well as the other jurisdictions we take our job very
seriously we understand the importance of the comprehensive plan and what it means to a community um we also understand that your comprehensive plan is somewhat dated and is showing its age and we're going to rectify that we're going to bring it to the modern age we're going to make it a modern plan for
Temple Terrace it wasn't too long ago myself our executive director Melissa Zernita and several of our senior staff came to city hall and a workday and met with your city manager and his staff and we started the dialogue about what are what are the issues what are the strengths what are the things that need
to be addressed as we go forward in Temple Terrace so we opened up the dialogue we're going to keep that dialogue going we're going to make sure it's an inclusive process with not only the staff but with the city council and the mayor involvement in the update of the plan as well as the citizens we
pride oursel on outreach to the community and having meetings in the community and make sure all the residents have a chance to be a part of the process so I just wanted to make those introductory remarks and we're looking really forward to working with all of you on this process and with that I'm going to turn it over to our staff to tell you a little bit more about it
we're good thank you Mr college additionally uh with me this evening I have uh Melissa Dickens who is the um division director for our strategic planning and environmental and research and once I finish my portion of the presentation Melissa will be coming up
to give an overview of the visioning process uh for the comprehensive plan update and she'll also be covering a little bit about the overall process um of the update so just to give you an overview of the comprehensive plan basically uh the comp
plan is a long-term planning document that serves as a road map for the future of the city the plan also informs uh the land development code for the city um as a long-range planning tool it's intended for uh use by staff uh decision makers
as well as citizens to direct growth and physical development of the community uh we plan for about 20 years out and typically we update the planet every 5 to 10 years so uh the last update for temple terrace was in 2016 so we're
right on the brink of um that time frame again uh the last update was in 2016 um again it's typically updated every 7 to 10 years in the current comprehensive plan for the city of Temple Terrace there's 12 sections 28
goals 155 objectives and uh 576 policies totaling 270 pages um as far as the general framework of the current comprehensive plan uh the general framework of the plan is comprised of uh an introduction four
major components which combined represent the city as a whole people places natural spaces and governance these four components are representative of the fundamental growth management elements um and of course we have a future land use which guides the
development um we have environmental sections recreation open space um and you can see the other sections of the current comprehensive plan listed there as part of uh this uh planning uh planning commission um the update uh
process planning commission also takes into considerations uh population as well as employment projections when we uh undergo an update which helps to inform um and shape policy direction for the policies that comprise the
comprehensive plan um so from 2015 uh to 2024 um as you can see from this slide population grew uh by 7% and um employment by 37% um and population is expected to grow
through 20 2050 excuse me um it's expected to increase by 26% and employment is expected to grow by 22% uh for Temple Terrace um I'm now going to turn it over to Melissa Dickens she's going to go over the visioning
process and some of the update process thank you Miss Mills welcome Miss thank you so much it is always a pleasure to come up here i used to come up here for the annual CIP review so it's nice to to see you all again appreciate you having us so I'm going to go over some of the nuts and bolts of
what we're going to be working on on the comprehensive plan update starting with the vision the vision is really the foundation for the comprehensive plan update and for us it's really critical because it's our opportunity to connect with the citizens about what they would
like to see for the future so a vision can be a shared community perspective on the ideal future so what would the community like to see in 2050 um that document then serves as a guiding document throughout the comprehensive
plan update it's usually a a pretty general pretty high level but a statement or set of statements that we use to refer back to to set the foundation for the policies within the plan there is a vision today uh there's a vision and a vision map we'll be
working with uh the community you all and uh different stakeholders to update those items and then we'd want the updated vision to be something that's really uh has input from all to have a
shared perspective about the future vision and so just this slide is is pretty basic but you know we really want to emphasize how much public input is important in this process if there's folks here who are interested in participating we want to give them a
heads up that it's coming um we'll then incorporate the public input for you all to review and formally approve a vision um you know we want to make sure that you all agree with uh what we've put forward for the community and then it
will serve as a a again a guidepost for us to point to throughout the process and make sure that what we're drafting in the various sections that Yikica mentioned is consistent with the vision and so now I'm going to go into a little bit more about the overall update
process this is governed by uh state statute chapter 163 um there are required elements or sections of comprehensive plans and we have some optional elements and for us you know as Yikica mentioned the comp plan was last
updated in 2016 that was really more of a a you know a reorganization we were trying to fix things that we knew were issues but we haven't taken a real deep dive in a while so this is a good opportunity for us to look at the plan find out you know what are the topic
gaps what are the emerging uh emerging themes that we're seeing what are some issues that you all are facing and then also I know Yikica had the slide about the um the breadth of the comprehensive plan and we want to make sure we retain those important components but there
might also be some opportunities for streamlining maybe reducing anything that could be condensed and then organizing it in a way that that makes sense for the community we plan on having uh regular touch points with you all coming before you in workshop format
uh sharing information also with our planning commission and then of course the uh the community so we want to make sure that there's lots of opportunities for input there's iterative updates there's multiple uh opportunities for folks to weigh in uh we'll also be
coordinating with uh with your staff with the with the planning staff and then also folks who are the technical experts on the various subjects so folks who might be more of an expert in water or wastewater or parks we want to make sure that the comprehensive plan is
working with the issues that they're facing and is a tool for folks who work in this community and then um a little bit about what we have planned for public engagement and outreach we just received word that we'll be partnering with uh
the University of South Florida uh their Master of Urban and Regional Planning program to help us develop a public engagement plan we think this will be a really great opportunity to have um uh the students help us shape what the uh
the engagement process looks like usf is of course close to this community there's a lot of ties so we're excited about that partnership usually we have different stakeholders participate in the process uh neighborhood organizations the development community
different folks who are interested in sharing their perspective and how the comprehensive plan impacts their work uh we uh also will be advertising uh this information through our channels as well as uh partner we'd like to partner as
much as possible with the city to to get the word out we'll have project pages uh that share additional information about the plan we plan on having multiple meeting formats both virtual and in person so you know if people can only uh
if they only have capacity to log in for a virtual meeting we still want to make sure that we have that opportunity to share information or if people want to come out get together with their neighbors this is also an opportunity to do that um then we um will start the
more formal uh plan amendment process so um we this schedule that's up on the screen is kind of our typical schedule there are some additional touch points that we plan on building in with uh with with this board as well as the community but um it's it occurs over several
months and we plan on working with USF in the fall on the public engagement plan and then really uh getting down to the the uh nuts and bolts in uh 2026 so we are very much looking forward to this process and um we are all available if
there are any questions or you have any comments you'd like to share with us thank you so much thank you Miss Dickens council members Council Member Fernandez yes um so I have a question for you that when we look at projects that come
before council we get the u verification that it's consistent with our land use documents and that as laid out by uh our planning documents if we go through this process um and then and if somebody
comes before us and their project is inconsistent we have to go through uh the process to amend it or somehow find either deny their project or find a way to make the project work so if we go through this process and we actually make changes to the document what can we
just change land use designation by going through this process or would we need to have hearings if we're if we decide to make changes yeah so I can start out answering that and then if I miss something or Unika excuse me Miss Mills wants to jump in um but essentially
usually when we do these major updates we focus on the text so we focus on okay what does this policy say you know how can we strengthen it how can we make it work better for Temple Terrace the map amendment process would be slightly different it would be what you're
describing um you know we we could go back and and discuss the opportunity for proactive map amendments but right now we're more focused on the text getting the text right and then the map amendments would be a separate process okay and uh when when you talk about the
anticipated 26 26% growth in population how did you all calculate that i'm going to estimate Sean to help with that response since he's a little more familiar with that thank you we have an economist who does demographics and looks at um the
projections from the from the census and the bureau of economic and business research and it looks at the land and what's available what could be redeveloped there's some some land based on the the structure value and the land
value um there's a there's a uh there's an assumption that it may redevelop at some time in the future we are talking about 20 years 20 plus years 25 years into the future so um so it's an estimate and um it's our you know the best estimate we have right now and um
but we do revise those numbers um every few years so you know it's a moving target and just to add a little bit on on the last question um you know this is an opportunity you know your comprehensive plan is adopted both the policies and the land use designations the map the land use map is an adopted
document so to to to amend it has to go through a process you know this is a process we're going to amend it comprehensively we're going to look at everything that you want to look at and that we think needs to be updated with policies it can be land use changes also land use changes can be done you know
four times a year we can you know if you all see an issue you know we don't have to wait for a major update to address it we can address it you know now if it's a ma if it's a significant issue that you know like in terms of redevelopment or revitalizing a community um we can certainly do it before the major update
okay so when we are talking about public outreach what do what will be we be asking the public to give us in terms of their comments or their input oh the you know the comprehensive plan is
comprehensive deals with everything you know water wastewater u you know recreation uh environments and land use i mean so we've been asking him all those things you know what are you finding in your community what you know what are the strengths what are the weaknesses what are where do you like to
see Temple Terrace go in the next 25 years are you are you trying to make your you know um bring more people to your community are you trying to keep it stable are you trying to grow certain areas redevelop certain areas um so all those things so we just take all the we don't want to limit the input we want to
bring it all in share it with you all and then see you know where do we go with what your comprehensive plan says now what we want to say in the future that's it council I'm not sure who was first vice Mayor
Vice Mayor Schisler fine um whatever hi saw you earlier today um thanks for coming by i I'm not trying to get into an economic debate when I'm asking these questions just to sort of preface it um I note that the um population growth was
much slower than employment growth from 2015 to now according to the slide three going forward to 2050 um population is going to grow faster than employment so what my question is to you is what implications does that have for the comprehensive plan from your perspective at this stage can you answer that at all
at at this early phase um I don't think off the top of my head it's problematic you know again I think it's what where does the city want to go you know are they are you targeting employment are you targeting you know um commercial development do you want more commercial
development are you comfortable with the level you have now are you targeting more residential development you know these are these are choices that you can make in your comprehensive plan with regard to the land use and and zoning and policy so um I don't think either of those are really problematic from a
standpoint um they're just choices i think you can have a healthy city either way yeah and I think I just want to add I think that because I too was looking at those statistics and a little bit curious about it and I think it had to do with an annexation of um a major jobs
i I believe it was the Amazon um center that was annexed into Temple Terrace so that's why those numbers look so dramatically different i had the exact same question like why why is this happening but it was because of that annexation in that time period i think
the VA hospital probably that Thank you very much for that so um does that mean that these numbers are specific to temple terrace these projections oh that's fascinating so we can still take an influence on whether we want to prioritize for example growing the population through addition additional
housing units or if we want to focus on commercial development to try and bring more jobs and more economic development into the city which could skew those numbers in either direction still correct okay and I have one more question if I may um about the public input um are we going to be consulted as you get the public input because I note
that it is in a phase prior to when you're going to consult with city council so we typically um you know we uh will go out to the community here you know we we typically have a survey that um is short and easy to fill out and you know
userfriendly and we hear um from a number of folks uh we read through all of the different comments different people some people might be concerned about mobility or biking or parks or you know we heard a lot about great things about trees tree protection so we then
um look at all the comments we make all the comments available on our website um so that folks can look and read through and we read through them and categorize them into different themes so ultimately all of the comments will include in in any sort of backup we can share them
with you is you know when when we close the the survey we'll make it publicly available um and then we'll come back to you all with uh with kind of our our summary and then you all can tell us you know I feel like I saw a lot of this I didn't see it up here so there will be an opportunity to to shape that but not
not not prior to it being presented to us um no we'll we can put the um all of their survey results as soon as we have them we can um you know we can make those available online that's excellent because I think it's important to sort take the people along as those inputs
come in and reach out to the community so that they can give additional you know depending on what inputs you get you might trigger certain people Yeah to to get involved right so you might you might see as you progress in that as you
activate certain sensitive topics you might get a flood of input on that one topic that you wouldn't have gotten if it had been kept uh under wraps until it were brought to the city council right yeah yeah absolutely and so the what I what I talked about a little bit was the
um the vision like the initial phase but then really ju and I'm basing this off of um you know larger communities Tampa the unincorporated county we heard you know a lot on the vision and then we heard a lot on our recommendations you know so the recommendations will release
before they come to you all and we typically um hear a lot of thoughts and comments in that process as well before we even start drafting the goals objectives and policies okay thank you very much this is going to be very exciting thank you thank you Vice Mayor
yes thank you um good thank you for the presentation very very interesting you already answered the timeline going to start in 26 but how long do you do you anticipate it taking so it um it kind of depends um it depends what level uh throughout the process we want how many
iterations of public engagement you know how many recommendations and revisions you all want how many times you want us to to come to you um you know I would say uh from the initial visioning until
we have the actual changes to you all it would be uh at least a year um just to give us enough time to go through that engagement and then it starts the the plan amendment process the the final question I have then is is a really more of a comment but uh we're going to be uh
we are concurrently reviewing many of our ordinances many of them are land use uh development ordinances and we just want to make sure that as we do this you're incorporating them into your plan so that we don't come back and say whoops we now violate what the plan was
so that um the coordination between the two governmental entities is going to be critical so that we're not stepping on each other's toes going forward yeah absolutely we're um we're running into that right not we're running into it in a good way uh with the city of Tampa right now because they're also updating
their code so we have standing meetings with them to make sure hey here's what we're proposing you know what we're proposing we always share with our client government partners before we finalize it or we go out with recommendations because we want to make sure that the comprehensive plan is
helpful and not that it's you know something that is going to run a foul to something that they're working on that's good thank you very much appreciate it thank you miss Dickens I have a couple questions and they're all kind of related to the same thing so I think I'm going to drop maybe three questions on you at once because if you answer one
you're kind of probably There's three of us yeah yeah yeah so so three things I have written down together and one is um a few years ago the planning commission undertook a study of the Fowler Avenue corridor with Temple or not with Temple
Terrace with Hillsburg County and with Tampa um the previous administration in Temple Terrace opted not to participate in that i I I wish that had been done differently but I can't roll back the clock
however that the results of that study are going to be um very interesting and very um revealing and kind of be guiding for us in terms of you know there's an invisible line at 52nd Street where
where Tampa stops and he'll and Temple Terrace starts and so the same is true of Bush Boulevard although I'm not aware of a study going on there but um that kind of falls into my next question and you kind of alluded to this how are we in timing
wise related to Tampa's u revisiting of their comp plan in Hillsbor counties because we are really uh geographically fairly small and surrounded by larger jurisdictions and then throw in the middle of that we have USF also and so
it would be really um ill advised of us to isolate ourselves and make a you know update our new comprehensive plan in a vacuum without some eye on what's going you know Tampa and Hillsboro on both sides of us are growing in a different way than we envision there needs to be
some dialogue not just with the planning commission but with Tampa and Hillsboro too we there needs to be a regional approach to this and that brings me to my last question is the collaboration with Hillsbor County and Tampa on this i certainly think the stakeholder groups
that you mentioned the citizen input are obviously a positive piece of this but um because of our geographic size relating to our immediate neighbors I think it's critically important that there be some discussion directly with
them as to okay what what's the county envision for the 301 corridor that runs on the east side of run actually runs right through because we have some stuff on the on the other side what's the county development plan for that corridor um and what's the
city's plan for Bush Boulevard i mean Bush Boulevard is tren kind of trending the wrong way um and certainly not trending the way we'd like it to fowler Avenue I think um I believe is going to trend the right way but it's got a long way to go and in terms of this region I
I truly believe that over the course of the next decade that this is going to be the region that experiences the most redevelopment or the most growth or the mo you know downtown has been the thing right channelside water street has all been you know the the riverw walk armature works all that has kind of been
the thing and I think that's going to continue to evolve but that's kind of already happened and there's a lot of work in Eore with Daryl Shaw there's there's going to be a lot of development there but I think the next big section of the county is going to be the Fowler Avenue
corridor with Mosy the football stadium the golf course at USF our downtown i think this is going to be the energy center for the next 10 years and so how do we do this in collaboration with our big
neighbors yeah I think you hit the nail right on the head um you know Fowler Avenue is is a perfect example of where there's the three jurisdictions coming together there's lots of activity there's lots of excitement so um for Fowler Avenue specifically I can I can
mention this um because I was working on the Tampa comprehensive plan which we're going to public hearing uh at the planning commission and city council next month for the future land use section and it incorporates the recommendations from the Fowler vision study which is the study that you
mentioned uh one of the things that we'd like to do in the initial part of this process I didn't mention it in the presentation because it's kind of behind the scenes but we want to look at all the plans that are affecting either Temple Terrace you know there's I believe a mobility plan happening up
here or immediately adjacent so how can we look at what's already been done and bring that into the conversation and then yeah absolutely right some of the issues that we encounter or the growth that doesn't stop necessarily at a specific line it's something that
affects everyone everyone has perhaps similar strategies for dealing with it or maybe different and so I think you're really correct in that it's important to make sure that we're all rowing in the same direction we would certainly be happy to facilitate a conversation with
folks um outside of the planning commission to you know have that conversation we also um we have liaison to each of yanika being one of them liaison to each of the local governments um so we will make sure to bring them in early in terms of hey what issues are
happening up here that you're aware of and they can bring in the the appropriate staff because you're absolutely right yeah and I mean it's completely correct and I'll just elaborate a little bit um I think you make an excellent point and we can be that conduit you know we we we
talk on a daily basis with the planners at Tampa with the planners at Hillsboro County so and this is great input because this we're already shaping how we're going to go about this because of the input you just gave us and we'll make sure that we we open that dialogue with regard to what they want to see for
those corridors as part of the part of the process i really think that that dialogue I'm not sure how this would look but I I think it needs to go beyond just unique talking to the the Tampa leaison and talking to I think I don't
know if that's a joint council meeting between their city council and ours and a commission i don't know how that would look but a first step with that would be to can you share with us the Fowler of a new vision study i didn't know it was done i haven't seen it i've been waiting for it to to come out um and I can share
that with everybody or you can share it with um our community development department and they can put it out but um and then the county's you know plans also and and I think before we get too far with that we
we really need to look at what's happened regionally and that brings me to my final point so I'll I'll let you get down but um having seen a lot of these surveys that are done through the TPO and I mean we do this at the TPO also as
you well know a lot of times you get better results if the public can be informed of what you know if you can place the survey in its context like if you just go out and cold survey people you know you got to kind of tell them a little bit about the world that
we live in in 2025 or 2026 like okay this is where the state is going how many what the state is expecting to see in terms of in in migration job growth you know our education centers were pumping out talent that's why jobs are coming
here you know what are the what are the regional trends because if you just pull somebody off the street they're going to say "Well I don't want to build anything i you know I I just want to go back to 1960." And and you know they don't know that this is where the region what the
trends are and I you know you got to distill that a little bit into something that people are going to read because if you give them a 300page economic report you know but if you could begin the survey with some kind of introduction or a video or something to say look these
are some of the trends since co because everything's changed since 2016 the world's different and um you know housing trends have changed the commute time data that we get um has changed demographic data what's happening in Pasco County affects us what's going on
in Riverview affects us so I mean you putting this in context might help people to say I know what's going on now around us what I want to do is see Temple Terrace stand apart from some of that or you know how can we leverage some of that we need to grow or we don't
need to grow or you know yeah set up the context i understand yeah yeah no you make you're hitting all great wonderful points we um we would have I think a video is a really good idea we um we did that with the city of Tampa and we found
that that was really powerful in terms of not only getting people to understand a little bit better but also sharing it you know sharing the video online um we also you know really want to um leverage as many opportunities as possible so if there's like for example a Rotary
meeting or there's a neighborhood association meeting we are happy and available to come and you know give a brief presentation about what we're seeing about the trends that you mentioned so that people have the context you know and then we ask them to fill out the survey and share it with
their their neighbors and their friends um and we find that a lot of times that going to where the people already are as opposed to trying to set up a separate meeting on it is really effective you know you get people who are already gathered they're already you know
together and we can go and share a little bit very brief presentation and ask them they can even pull out their phones with a QR code take the survey right there so there's a lot of different strategies to provide that context that that you referenced thank
you Council Members any final thoughts i do so I along the lines of what the the mayor has mentioned my question really had to do with how will we get the input request out to people and is there a way
that you would come to this council with a a small presentation or the presentation that you would put um on your website and then make that presentation here put out the information about how you would get to
the survey and then we through our our communication avenues can start actually promoting that as well yeah that would that would be ideal you know as many ways that we can reach the public the better um and you know you
all have a great uh Temple Terrace is such a great local community i have a bunch of friends that live up here you know people really know each other so any way that we can get out the um the communication through the city's channels as well we'd love to to partner or see whatever might be possible with
the the comm staff or social media that's it thank you all for being here thank you Nick good to see everybody you can come visit once in a while you don't have to have a comp plan update thank you good to see you thanks for being here
okay council the next uh item is a bicycle pedestrian advisory council there are three regular appointments uh there are three vacancies on the bicycle pedestrian advisory council the city received two applications for reappointment from current members and
an alternate member has applied for a regular term um so the three applicants are Brett Buffington Austin Peterson those are both current members and the third alternate member who's applied for the regular position is Eric Severs and
so I don't see any of them here so is there a motion a motion to approve the three applicants Brent Buffington Austin Peterson Eric Severs to the Bicycle Pedestrian Advisory Council second motion second discussion of the
motion all those in favor say I i i opposed no very good next is a municipal code enforcement board appointment there's one regular member vacancy on the MCEB we received one application for
Mr bill Snelling to be reappointed i do not see Mr snelling here um is there a motion to approve Mr snelling to go ahead to approve the reappointment of Bill Snelling as regular member of the um municipal code enforcement board extending term extending from April 15
2025 to April 15 2028 second motion is second discussion of the motion if not all those in favor say I i i opposed no nays please thank Mr snelling for his service next council has everybody had
an opportunity to review the minutes of our April 1st meeting and if so is there a motion to approve the minutes move to approve second motion and second discussion or corrections to the minutes if not all those in favor say I i i
opposed no ns the minutes are adopted persons wishing to be heard on items not listed on the agenda or items on the consent agenda there are forms in the back of the room there's a threeminut time limit imposed on each uh speaker we ask that the come to the podium state
their name and city of residence I only currently have I only currently I currently have one request to speak uh from Mr lo Mr lo you're recognized sir my name is Charles Loe of Terrace Park and I want to talk about April 19th
20125 which is this Saturday now of course April 19th as many of you might know is part of the religious holidays of both Jews and Christians within the period it also has some Earth Day events that are involved but the thing I have mostly in mind about Saturday April 19th
2025 is that it's the 250th anniversary of the Battle of Lexington and Conquered uh for those you maybe don't remember that or don't remember reading about that the point being is that when the founders of this nation came along was
to uh a commitment to the future of our nation certain things are bothering me that I do want to bring up uh that I hope would be an improvement for the future toward this commitment that they made in Lexington and conquered and the
founders did 250 years ago uh first of all uh is getting millennials involved into government they have to be able to make decisions that are going to that are going to impact their future i actually wrote the elections department about this last
year because at the time I wrote it was Biden against Trump and I think younger people needed to be involved that's number one uh number two uh is having to do with Earth Day coming up and that and of course your Arbor Day and that has to do with the environment and that's uh
trying to we have a choice within the environment and that is to either alleviate problems or aggravate them uh in the future but if we follow the advice and some of the literature we might be able to at least alleviate some of them my third point has to do with uh
and I'm still thinking back in March when the when those nice folks from the mosque came over about doing an event or doing May perhaps on May 3rd doing an event together with them uh between Jews Christians and Muslims and that is or even having
something going on where we all can enjoy each other's company as a matter of fact over at writer's club I uh uh rather have kind of a platonic friendship with a woman who had who has an Arab Christian background and Jewish man doesn't seem to bother her so her
back seem to bother me and I think this is the type of things as I mentioned to her that would help build the future and finally the other thing I'm concerned about is about their health care and retirement money when they get to the future obviously we can't assure that
but what we can do is point it out to them uh if we're entitled to having retirement money and health care benefits so are they they're putting in a lot of money and I could give you a lot of statistics of why it is so much harder for them than it is in FDR's day
but the point being is these four points do concern me and I was thinking even not only about this religious thing on u I'm just going to finish this thought and that is to uh have a survey done see how young people feel about and
whether they expect to have retirement money available for them or not thank you Mr lord okay I can answer that we don't expect to have any retirement money well you're in the majority but I'm hoping some other people feel different
me too okay uh ladies and gentlemen is there a motion to approve the consent agenda move to approve the consent agenda second all those in favor say I i opposed no nays consent agenda is adopted uh any carryover council
business council members i have one item yes ma'am council member Fernandez i And this was from goal setting but I just I realized afterwards I didn't feel like I had expressed myself clearly enough so I just wanted to when when I was we were
talking about a document retention improving our document retention process um I wasn't referring to inviting interns in to actually manage it i was thinking more about interns helping us convert from whatever our current
uh retention mediums are into a system that would be so that that so I didn't want to if there is a way to bring in somebody because that's more uh like data conversion and that's what I was thinking about uh there would be
potential room for interns or a USF student who might be studying data retention to actually help navigate the process not maintain the records afterwards so anyway that that's my only carryover okay thank you
any other carryover council business any new business or board reports i got a board report you go ahead well I have a couple of things and I guess I'm not sure if I should
bring them up now or the city manager's report but um well but one is just council business I guess and that has to do with bulk communication to constituents because we we talked a little bit about that we would have to
get uh we would have to actually take personnel and and allot them to managing any kind of communication that we might use if we if we were going to use social media or anything but right now we council doesn't really have a way to do
any bulk communication to the community and I didn't know what what the rest of council thought about it but it like I can reply to an email at a time or I can reply to or you know someone can call me or I can talk to
people but that's all on an individual basis i mean um I know LA a long time ago when I was on council the first time where we had office hours and sometimes people would come during your office hours but usually not but I guess in
conjunction with exploring methods for the city to be able to I don't want to say improve i I think the staff is doing everything that they can do but maybe find a better way that
between the council and the city staff that we can reach more people at at once well we could ask I mean if this council wants to we could we could ask for a
report on giving all the council members the social media or those who want it a social media account hosted by the city and find out what all that entails if that's what this body wants to do i don't I don't really want that but but
that's not that's just me handling wouldn't be but um I mean there's a lot of moving parts to that but I don't pretend to know all of them i went through a presentation on this at a conference but it's obviously public records there's things that would
need to be done and they would touch it records retention and marketing would touch all three of those so but that's up to the body if you want to explore that well and I'm not necessar I mean I I understand that would that would be
staff time and expense so I'm not necessarily promoting that but if there I'm asking basically if anybody has ideas that would be coste effective and yet still enable council members to
reach larger numbers of people if there's something that I mean it hasn't happened very often to me that I I feel the need to put a a position out or something about something I I I usually say what I need
to say here and then if there is a situation where I feel like um I need you like I need everybody to know what my thoughts are on this I I feel like it's I've been covered here but I feel like there's also a lot of
people that aren't watching these meetings even in as they're playing over again and then we do get a lot of comments in other areas is let's just take Temple Terrace Bulletin board as an
example they'll there will be a lot of comments or concerns expressed about something but it's not the position the council took or it's it's you know or the council discussed it and decided to do something different but there's no way
for and I'm okay if the city staff responds or some but I feel like we just have a very hard time getting to a large number of people at once and that's that's all vice Mayor
um I it's a slippery slope okay i mean we've been we've been advised time and time and time again by our our our city attorney that I don't want you talking for me on the on on internet okay i don't want anybody talking for me on the
internet um if if I have a position we we have very clear Sunshine rules sunshine laws we say it in open session so that everybody knows excuse me where where where the comments and thoughts are coming from um I
don't if somebody has a question they they'll ask me and if they'll ask me for my position and I'll be glad to do that on a one-on-one basis i don't believe in huge mass emails too many things could go wrong with that um I I I I did one
during a campaign and and I only had one or two negative comments on it on on a campaign ad piece that I did but uh thing things can go badly wrong with those with those that that that uh approach i think we need to listen to
our uh city attorney as far as the um the the the the uh city email position that we've talked about time and time again um if I see something on Facebook I call
the city i call I call Mr mr bay or or whoever whoever you know is involved with it a lot of times people on Total Bullet board aren't from Temple okay so it's it's
it's we're spinning our wheels on that and I also thought that we had decided during the goal setting that the administration was going to come back with some alternatives for mass communication that you guys were looking
at some stuff that's for emergencies huh that's for emergencies well I thought that was for other information too just just emergencies okay what Whatever okay um but uh I I don't know that we can do anything at this point i think it's it's it's going to create ourselves more issues than than it'll solve other
than whatever whatever we're trying to accomplish on an individual basis and make I want to make sure I'm very clear about this there is never a time when I think that I would speak for the council it it would this what I'm talking about
is when there was a discussion at council and there was a vote i I don't think there's anything wrong with saying council didn't vote that direct or council voted yes on that or council voted no on that but I wouldn't speak for anyone else's opinion but the but and and I understand I'm not saying you
would but the but the the potential for well uh coun council member Fernandez said it was this and they almost think that okay and the perception happened one time and it's it's it's a mistake and it's wrong that's all i I do have an idea for you to consider
and and I don't know that anybody's close to this idea but I think this is something you're going to have to figure out we can't give it the staff to figure this out for you there are um many elected officials I know um here locally too that do news
bulletins do a newsletter periodically some of them do them monthly bi-weekly whatever you know they do it different times i know several of the county commissioners do that because I'm on the receiving end of them they do get distributed by email um and I get them
even I I still get them from former county commissioners which I don't quite understand that but um there are ways to do this um now it most of them that I'm aware of involve email or social media
the newsletters are much easier to archive and it's much easier to control the distribution list you can opt in you can opt out and if you send it on blind copy you don't run the risk of you know anybody and you can send it to whoever you want i mean um you can require
people to subscribe or you can just you can't use city databases you're going to have to get your own email addresses but they're pretty easy to archive that because it's going out over the city email that wouldn't be an issue at all um there are things you can do and and
you're you're right other places are using social media but it's hosted and preserved by the city and the records are research or and if it's the body's decision that they want to explore this we can ask staff to do that but there'd
need to be enough interest i I don't really want to be a slave to that i I can't I'm lucky to check my email as it is so um but that's just me it could be other people want to do that and we could explore that but that's up to your
colleagues here to say "Yeah I want that too." But I don't see anybody jumping on it um but a newsletter is something to consider i don't see any reason i mean you'd have to work out the details with the city attorney and marketing and all that but I don't doesn't seem to me like
that'd be that difficult to do and then you would have the ability to do that right there's also as you alluded to um you know if you wanted to have library hours or something and I'm sure we could make space available to any one of us that you know if you want that's been
done before yeah that's probably been done yeah yeah so I mean there are ways i appreciate what you're trying to do um but you'll have to figure out that kind of on your own and then Okay i just thought I would bring it up
it can be done um my other items really are for the city manager so I don't know do you want me to Oh you're you got the floor okay all right so um
recently we have been asked to look at a project which is the Tampa Electric hardening the electrical grid which is obviously an important very important since we know what happens when we don't have power
for a long time but what my question to the city and to the to the council is right now our city staff the process in place is that we look at easements and
we look at uh various other maybe conflicts with other utility services and once that once those aspects are cleared then the project is cleared to go but I would like to ask if it's possible
to add another component to that and that's look at the design for also how does it fit into the space aesthetically because I I I have nothing against electrical delivery but the
poles are very large and when when you're looking at putting something down smack in front of somebody's house or you know where Maybe there was a way that five 3 feet away it it serves the exact same purpose but it wasn't the
most expedient A to B but maybe it still fits within every parameter and then it's not directly in the middle of an intersection or you know that that that's what I'm I'm talking about and
and to as an example when they widened Fowler Avenue the bridge across the river um but by the time it came in front of this body it was a done deal there was there were no changes to be made and it was just early concrete
construction there was nothing aesthetically attractive about it at all and since the plan was done approved everything we were a formula it was just formulatic for us to sign off on it we couldn't make any changes but then if
you look at the river crossing on 40th Street and you see that they put nice ballastrades and they put at more attractive lighting you know we didn't even have the opportunity to weigh in on that project so that's a gateway to the city
and it's just a big and I I'm not saying anything about widening the road i understand the need for it but could we include some form with our function and that's so I you
know I don't I just would like to ask that that's a consideration u because by the time it comes to us if it does come to council to approve it it's it's signed and and sealed and there there will be no changes made except under ex you know extreme
circumstances and it's too late at that point mr thank you Mr mayor members of council so the um we'll look at that um I don't we'll we'll have to see what we're legally authorized to do or not because
we do have parameters we're looking at as you mentioned Council Member Fernandez we look at the plan for is conflicts with our utilities and our infrastructure uh to make sure that sidewalks aren't crushed by a pole they want to put there or water mains or sewer mains etc so um the aesthetic
piece it it's tricky because what you can see on a plan may not give you that full aesthetic view of what it what it'll look like once a 45 foot wooden pole is put in your in on the street um but I will check to see what what limitations we can how far we can push
if that and I'll report back to the council okay i mean I'm just asking if if we can you know there's always form and function can we add form so um I appreciate that and then my last item
is we have had several projects in the city that we come before us we've approved them this the site plans you know all of it and then those developers or contractors or whoever's have gone on
to build them differently than the approved plans or add aspects that were not part of the approved plan and I think this has happened three or four times now with projects what can we do
as as a and I know you're going out and doing I know the staff is doing inspections uh throughout the process based on whatever the the construction is but what can we do to help make sure that the plans that we have approved are
the ones that are actually implemented and even it's not so much that I dislike what the change that that someone may have made but it should have come before us to make that change prior to just going ahead and doing it
i agree um in fact that's one of the u one of the reasons that you've seen some staff changes because we're trying to tighten that that process up um uh we're getting we're getting better traction with that the the the incidents that you mentioned I know of two of them
particularly um were were not great they were caught um by the city staff but at that point they had they had made some so much inroad that it was really hard to turn them around uh our goal is to not have that repeated um Mr paulie um in and taking over community development
he knows that's one of the most important things is instituting some policy controls which is already done with several directives down to the um the building division particularly because they're the ones that are on the field mostly looking at this so we are we are um hopeful that some of these
changes are are gaining traction and that we will not have these incidents repeat themselves excuse me that's it for me other new business uh Council Member Kravitz couple reports uh so I was at the riverboard today um one of the
members there brought to my attention that at Temple Terrace they didn't have a contact person so I forwarded that over to the city manager and he'll I assume put put himself in touch with the lady um so that we can strengthen our cooperation with the port authority um
the TAC board didn't have a quorum and uh other than that slight flag report i just got a message that the U constituent communication went out just now this time in BCC of course um with the NAVO guidelines being
communicated to everyone that's North American Vexological Association uh which we agreed at the previous meeting was going to be the baseline for what we were looking for in the submission and just in far in terms of the submissions we've gotten um prior to those NAVA guidelines being communicated we got four people who sort of jumped the gun
were so excited about it that they submitted um and of course there are the 22 old submissions from the previous round and my understanding is I've been trying to figure out who those people are and how to reach them but so far
staff hasn't turned anything up so that's where we're at right now we have the actual flags that have been submitt submitted visually they're on a file but unfortunately there's no record of who those people are or how to reach them so I was hoping that I could reach them because I thought maybe if they submitted one time they'd be interested
in going on a second round but I'm not able to do that unfortunately so that's my report how were they submitted do was it a they were submitted to the previous social media coordinator slashdirector
gentleman and he didn't keep those records let's just put it that way but they still would be in our email if they went through email wouldn't that be retrievable can I let me work on that um I've heard this before this this uh this notation
about that um let me dig into that with it and see if there's a way i I don't recall exactly if they all came in in the same way if they were by email or people submitted hard copies i I would assume mostly they were probably by email but let me let me find could be anything really
well I thought there was an online portal that people submitted to it could be i just let me just dig into it okay so that's that's that's where we're at on that anything else Council Member no sir nothing no one quick thing i I I
know I sent this to you i just want to make reference to it um regarding USF and the football stadium uh I city manager and I have met twice with them over the period of a year or so um and then I kind of dropped
off at the last meeting we were hoping to get some response from that meeting there were some open-ended things that they kind of were supposed to circle back with us and we never heard and so as you know I wrote a letter to President Law kind of outlining some of
our concerns um I can't remember all of them is parking in Pleasant Terrace was one of them noise was really high on the list not from the football stadiums necessarily but from the concerts um speaker orientation you know which way
are they going to be directing the sound um our staff uncovered after the hurricane some concerns about the storm water plan um those types of things and um I did finally get a response from her but kind of somewhat disappointing um it
was really kind of a g a generic um response not really satisfactory to our concerns so I I don't at this point I'm not sure what the next steps will be because you know since then she's announced her retirement there's a search on for her
replacement um and it's hard to really even understand who's directing that project i mean the there's so many people with a hand in it the the trustees have hands in it the president I don't even know how much of a hand I so it's hard to tell who's really
driving the boat here um and so probably more to come on that but if you have ideas or knowledge that you want to share with us at a future meeting under new business I'd certainly welcome your ideas or input on that
so and that's all I have are we done with new business and board reports okay city manager thank you Mr mayor uh got a few items uh the first one is just trying to get some some direction from council to make sure that that we are doing something in in
the correct way the way you'd like us to see it done so it's relative to the uh council meeting agenda so it's been past past practice here that a council member u can bring up new business as you've done here this evening during the the new business portion of the agenda or if
there's ongoing business you bring it up during the council business portion of the agenda uh for discussion and and typically uh when that happens you'll introduce the the topic you'll have a conversation about it um and if there's follow-up required typically you'll either do it by consensus or you'll do
it by motion you know for example set a workshop or bring back a presentation or something like that um so but there is no clear council rule on this um but that practice more or less falls in conformity with Robert's rules of order which is the guideline that we use for
sort of the procedure of the meetings um I mentioned this because recently we had an interest expressed uh for a council member to make a formal presentation using PowerPoint slides to the council um so I conferred with the city attorney and just try to get direction it's like
okay how do I approach that in terms of the agenda and what we concluded was that we'd follow this practice which is in for example under new business uh the council member could bring it up for discussion if the council wanted to entertain that the notion of the presentation they could uh do it by
motion or by consensus um so that's where we left it um I don't know if that's the right way the way you think it should be done or not but that's the way that we saw it in terms of Robert's rules so again just trying to get some clarification from the council council
I have a question Council Member Chambers so is this for like a formal presentation because like my next fun fact I'm going to ask for a slide or two is it that part of it
or this this was a request for a formal presentation to address something that had been touched upon in a prior meeting uh and so there was again slides that were going to be presented your fun fact is it will already be on the agenda so it's already a scheduled regular agenda
item and some another comment so besides that I know you're talking about that but we also uh you know that's why if I want staff to do something over and above stuff for a project or anything or I see a need we bring it up here and you
know get a consensus to for staff time you know projects for staff time i know that's not what you're asking when you first started that's what I thought you were asking but you're talking about an agenda item but I don't think there's a clear rule we have on if I ask something
from the city clerk that'll take five minutes or 10 years what rule that is to bring it up before this group we do have a rule that limits the amount of time i couldn't find the rule i believe it's if it's four hours or more of time okay all right well that's good stuff i looked up
anyway that that's what I thought you were going and so uh that's not so I understand that but are you asking more about how a council member might put something on the agenda separate from the normal order of business correct
correct because right Well right now if if a member asks to have something on the agenda uh it's not come up before put it that way uh if you want to have something on the agenda typically the way the council's done it here since I've been here is you you bring it up during new business you have a conversation about it and then the
council will direct you know staff usually okay put this on the next agenda or schedule for a future workshop or something else or bring back a presentation uh or follow up on some item so that that's usually how it how it's worked which is kind of in line with the the Robert's rules that we were
trying to figure out a way to do it um so that's my conversation i don't want to take away anybody's ability to have the discussion i mean obviously you you approach the discussion here every time we have a meeting you start off a conversation about different things as you've done here this evening it's just the next step in terms of making a
formal presentation that request was what was the the difference something more than new business it could be new business but it it'd be new business and a presentation that somebody would like to make so it would probably what you're saying is it this would be something that would go on the
agenda in presentations versus just coming up in new business not well it it could be under presentations not necessarily i mean presentations typically here if you go back and you scan our our council meetings for several years usually they're you know they're benign community information
community groups or things having to do with a centennial things like that are usually our our presentation tonight we had one that was like when I call you and say I think the arts council wants to do a presentation i mean I'm asking as the president kind of but as a council member so that's not what we're talking about no no in this case it
would again it's a request direct request from a council member to do a presentation on a matter that has been that council has has talked about in the past well that is I'm sorry you had the floor are you done okay
that is how it's done on every board I'm on the TPO Tourism Development Visit Tampa Bay they we always ask the body if we have a request to have a presentation made to us or if we want to
I don't think I've ever asked to make a presentation but if we we bring up under new business I I think we should have a presentation by Hart or by whoever to come or Swift Mod to to
give us a presentation on the current state of the river or DOT to talk about Fowler Avenue whatever it is but that's how it is it's always been here since I've been on council and it's also on every one of the county boards that I'm on that's how we do it the the only
exception to that there there is I'm thinking when you're talking there are people who will sometimes contact and what comes to mind most recently was Cheryl Thomasino you know Mrs thomasino called me and said hey I just closed on the property on Bullard Parkway i'm going to
be flying in from Ohio i'm going to be here for a week or whatever and it happened to fall on one council meeting night and because it was Mrs thomasino and it was significant i asked you to give her 15 minutes on the under
presentations but that wasn't like the norm i mean that's a garden variety presentation it's not like should we for instance you brought up you brought up a couple times fluoride i know that if the fluoride thing doesn't work at the state you want to you're asking council to schedule a
presentation on fluoride yes um I I've wondered if it's time to have Hart come again but I was going to bring that up at some point with you and say "Hey should we have Hart come?" So I I don't know i don't want to lose the
ability you know Red Cross will call me every couple years and say "Hey I want to come and update our I mean I don't want to have to say well it'll take us two months because I got to ask council if I can have the Red Cross come." I think this is different what he's conference that it's a different
situation that this is a specific request by a council member to discuss a previous issue okay and I think something like that I believe especially since it's we're not talking about Art and Blanc or we're not talking about something that's going to you know come
down the pike um just like I'm coming back to very very shortly with a hard charter issue i expect that to be noticed and advertised so that people can you know uh can attend that and I will bring that to council prior so the
council knows it so the council can say okay fine let's put on the next agenda so nobody can be noticed I think when we do set something like that we have a notice issue that we need to advertise it especially if it's if it's if it's a an item before council so that uh any of
the public has an opportunity to come address it that my cons that'd be my concern with it but uh you know it it's a two-step process and command I want to make a presentation on XYZ and yes and then can you put in the we can we can request to be put on the agenda that
it's on the agenda it's notified and everybody everybody should be happy with it and we're we're we're adhering to Robert's rules as best we can and the public is notified just my thoughts on certainly agree with the vice mayor that if you go through the required notice and you put it in
through the formal process it shouldn't be an issue and if Allison excuse me if council member Fernandez would like to speak on fluoride or any other issue then she has the right to do so in my opinion I think I mean I think we during council
business the way we're doing this I think council members ought to be able to bring up anything that they would like to bring up that's what I don't understand is that's what council business is for yeah and if if it if it includes I mean for my purposes if it includes
some you know PowerPoint slides versus a formal presentation i mean to me maybe a formal presentation about something that council's going to be voted on you bring it up during council business and say
I'd like to have this on the on the next agenda that's what we're saying that's say I'll put it in the next agenda but the council gets to the body gets to decide whether they want to put that on the next agenda or not council business you don't have any advanced notice you can bring any any one of us can bring up
anything we want under council business or new business you don't have to have anything for that that's the purpose of that section of the meeting but to make a presentation during that needs to come and say "Hey folks I want to make a presentation at the next meeting about
fluoride." Exactly and the body needs to decide whether they want to do that's just what exactly what you did yes you did it twice you was like "Hey I want to do this." And we all said "If this fails in Tallahassee we're going to be supportive of your request." But you didn't just show up with a slide
deck of fluoride and you know there's been times we've done that before an issue comes up is let's put on the next agenda we can come back and discuss it on a formal basis and that's how we usually handle those issues that's we've done that in the past that's what Robert's rules yep seems to just to summarize so that clear position of the
mayor is if someone would like to use a PowerPoint that requires a council vote but if someone merely wishes to speak then that can be brought up anytime correct i I just want to make sure I understand see now you make me nervous that you're locking me into a specific thing that I said i'm just making sure I understood what was just said okay
you're trying to get me to confirm whatever you just said that paraphrase what I said i got it wrong correct me what I I don't know what I said is what I said i mean then we're going to play it back so that I can sign a contract that this is what I said why can't we use a I I just
wish that we could all use a little judgment here and work together instead of this legalistic like let's figure out how to parse this particular word nobody's against anybody here nobody's trying to silence anybody this
is every one of us up here is an elected official with the equal rights as an elected official nobody wants this i've been attempted to be silenced under previous you know when I was a council member and I don't like it and I didn't like it then and I don't wouldn't do it
now nobody's trying to silence anybody but there's a difference between bringing something on up on your council business that's important to you which is your duty as I mean if it's important to you and your constituents it's your duty to bring it up i would expect you to do
that but if you want to make a formal presentation the body has to agree this is something we want to spend our time talking about and that's a there's a difference i don't know why we have to write this into a law that council business is to
bring stuff up a formal presentation is something different i mean we really have to codify that i I I don't I just wish we could act in good faith with each other go ahead i just
want to point out my position on this is anyone who properly submits before the agenda cut off deadline which is published should be allowed to present and we should all be so lucky that people would actually go through the trouble of preparing a PowerPoint in my opinion so I'm not trying to limit anyone's right to speak just want to be
absolutely 100% crystal clear about that whoever wants to should be able to submit their topic and they should get a speaking slot because the ability to speak and discuss things is exactly why we're here so that we can get the best solutions and you can speak with the PowerPoint if
necessary okay that's a different thing you want to make a presentation so I just once again the PowerPoint is the cut off so I think that's that's amusing well I'm glad you're amused i am yeah so what is the decision because I'm going to call for a vote on this what's
up for a vote what we're going to do are we going to adhere to Robert's rules of order and continue doing this like we're doing it or are we going to change well I think it's not been discussed fully if this is actually an adherence to Robert's rules of order okay
on the one hand I do see a lot of value in anybody in the public who wants to come and speak and they have they do have the three minutes to speak however if you are someone who wants to make a
presentation and you meet the deadline it is advertised because you've met the the agenda deadline it does get advertised but on the other hand you know presentations are typically reserved for
things that are um that we need to get a lot of information out to the public i don't necessarily want us to turn our meetings into everybody in the public if you
submit your agenda item in time it gets on the agenda because then we might not be and whatever we whatever rule we set for one person it has to be the same across the board and I don't know that we want our
meetings to become less businessoriented if if everybody decided that they could make they wanted to make a presentation so I my opinion is if you want to make a presentation and it's not
necessarily ordinary city business that you bring it up and then it gets on the agenda for the next meeting would you want to put that into a motion i said a lot of words just now if you
want I will i motion to table this for until the two weeks f from now that would be motion to postpone until a specific date so that everyone can reflect on this discussion before anyone goes ahead and tries to codify something because I don't think it's been sufficiently clear that this is an
adherence to Robert's rules of order so I think we should investigate that and I think we should postpone this and then resume this discussion two weeks since so that's my motion okay so reate your motion please and concise so we can get it make sure we have it correct on the record this will be a motion to postpone
to a date certain and that would be to the May 6th May 6th meeting of the city council we have a motion to table till May 6th is there a second second discussion of the motion yes uh what we
just did was what we'd normally do this is a bigger item from the than for tonight and we've asked to put it on the agenda that's what we've always done so uh I I'd like to get some more information and talk about it at a later
date i didn't want to vote on this tonight i didn't have enough information uh I don't really know the implication of Robert's rules so um further discussion of the motion all those in favor say I i
opposed nay you're going to regret this one city Manager thank you Mr mayor uh next I'd like to just remind council and the public that the uh status report on the uh persons to be heard the quarterly report is in your backup and available
to the public if anybody would like to review it and the last thing I'd like to do is ask u Corey Carlin Collins our parks and rec director come up good evening good evening Miss Collins good evening Mayor council
members want to talk to you about the Arbor Day celebration can you bring up the flyer there it is um Joe Ferris and Marissa Robinson brought this forward um it's a great event we're not only giving away the hundred orange trees but we're
also giving we're also going to do the ribbon cutting for the bat mural which is now aptly named Happiness Has Wings so it does have a name uh the Rotary Club was the sponsor for this of Temple Terrace so they will be there doing the ribbon cutting um the Sustainable Living
Project will be selling fruits and vegetables we'll have uh Eden's Nectar will be selling honey mc Ice will be out there we'll have some money money music um we're also going to do a drawing for 25 plants that were patio plants that
were donated so that'll be a nice little event um so we invite all of you to come out and the public to all come out as well um so it should be a good evening April 22nd from 400 p.m to 8:00 p.m at the family complex so then next up is
the the big one this is May 3rd River Jam everybody's talking about it it's out there our marketing team has done a wonderful job promoting that um the Centennial Committee has been working very hard planning River Jam held on May
3rd from 10 to 6 we have 32 club row sponsors and clubs and churches in Temple Terrace that will be taking part in this event so that will be very very nice we have um as you have received your VIP packets if you can make sure
that you RSVP back to me so that everybody knows who's going to be there um we will have fun for the whole entire family we'll have drum line going off DJs we're going to have bands um we will be having a presentation at noon um and
it will be a short presentation between 30 minutes probably is what we're shooting for um then we have Moonberry that will be up there um doing their thing and the Danny Moody band which is a local Temple Terrace family band um and then we have Soul Circus Cowboys who
will be out there um and they will finish it off at 6 p.m so there's a lot happening um your your committee's been working very very hard so it's it's really it's going to be a fun fun event so I stand for questions very good council members questions council member
Fernandez i have a actually I have a question about the Arbor Day celebration and I know that we are giving out a 100 orange trees to the first hundred residents but will people be able to find out or get information about getting other trees out of our tree
program i'm sure Joe Ferris will be talking about that jack Early will be out there as well um so I'm sure he will he's he's happy to give away trees all right thank you questions council members good job i I do want to use one
thing because Maria has been fantastic with the marketing of this event um and all of the events that are coming up and just a few of the if if you don't mind um a few of the the marketing summary impacts we've already been featured and mentioned and that's so Tampa uh Tampa
free press all events um actually on indicate we were on the included in the national syndication MSN um so it's out there um Facebook Instagram you know all the city assets it's I mean look at the bulletin board it's all over it um so
they've been doing a fantastic job getting the word out and there's paid ads there's everything so it's going to be it's going to be a good turnout um we will see how it all plays out so thank you very much yep thank you
shia that's all I have thank you city attorney's report we have nothing to report very good other business to come before the council if not we will stand adjourned oh man [Music] [Music]
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