Hey, The meeting is called to order. >> Very good. We're officially called to order for the April 21st city council meeting of the city of Temple Terrace. Great to see everybody here. I'd like to remind you to please uh silence your electronic devices and if you would
please stand for the invocation and the pledge. Lord, we ask you to bless our meeting tonight. Grant us wisdom as we work to advance the common good of our city. We pray for a quick end to the war in Iran and for peace in the Middle East. We
pray also for those involved in the tragic vehicle crash on Fowler Avenue last week. May they feel the comfort of your grace and the support of our community. Amen. Now, our mayor for the day will lead us in the pledge.
>> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. So, for those of you who are not aware
of what's going on, it occurs to me that you might be a tad bit curious of what's going on. Um, so each year, uh, Corpus Christi Catholic School, which is a K through8 school down the road on 56th Street, has their annual fundraising
gayla. Um, several of us are have children who are alum of that school. And so a few years ago, they broached the idea of us uh being willing to auction off mayor for a day, uh fire chief for a day, and police chief for a
day in order to help in their fundraising. And um the fire chief and police chief were both on board with that idea, and so was I. So, um, we have our mayor for a day is Camden. Jamie has been spend spent the, uh, the day with
me, and we have, uh, the police chief for a day, which we'll introduce in a moment, and the fire chief for a day that spent, uh, the day with the police department and the fire department. And so, um, kind of a special day. They've done a terrific job. I I can tell you
that we wound up here with a pizza party in the back room, and I think they're tired. Um so anyhow that's uh that's what's going on here. So um another thing you may not know if you don't come often is
we begin each of our meetings with a historical or interesting fact about the city or uh the region or we've kind of expanded this to any kind of interesting fact is good because it's getting harder and harder to find stuff. So um tonight
that duty falls on me and so I will be quick. This is something that u it fell in my lap a few weeks ago and I said I'm going to keep that but for when it's my turn. So this is about USF and those of you who have been around the area for a
while know that USF was started in 1956 but they started building buildings in like 1960 it actually opened. So the fine arts building was built in 196 Well it opened in ' 64. So it started
what ' 63 or ' 62, however long it took them to to build that. When they built the fine arts building and it opened in ' 64, it was shortly after that, like late ' 64, 65 when they did the tree planting. If you've seen
pictures of the campus before then, it's like there's a few buildings and sidewalks connecting the buildings, but it's like a desert. It's all sand and some scrub grass. There's no trees out there. And so the trees that we see now are beautiful. If you go to Marshall
Student Center and you walk around there, I mean, all the trees, they line the sidewalks, they're beautiful. They're all symmetrical. That's because they were planted that way in the 60s and ' 65, right? So the students in the fine arts building in
1965, they saw the flags out here where they were planting the tree where they were they measured out and put flags where they were going to plant the trees. The fine arts students didn't want the trees
near their building being symmetrical. They they took it upon themselves because they wanted it to look natural and they wanted it to look like artsy. They didn't want straight lines. And so
a group of the fine arts students in 1965 went out in the dark cover of night and they moved all the flags around the fine arts building. So when the tree planting crews came out, they planted the trees
where the flags were. So even today, if you go walk by the fine arts building, on the sidewalk getting to that area, the trees are all symmetrical. They all line the sidewalks. But when you get to the fine arts building, they're all over it. When
they built the Contemporary Art Museum in the 80s, they had to design the building. Well, they didn't have to. They didn't want to take out any of these trees because they assumed that these were natural trees that were there before the campus was
built because they weren't lined up like all the other trees. So, they designed the Contemporary Museum of Art to fit on that property without taking out any of the native trees. Um, well, they were never native to begin with. I don't know
how long this secret was kept or or whether it was an open secret or what, but um I just read about this recently and they interviewed some of the people involved in this from in 1965 and then they went around and said, "Well, who can verify this?" And they
call people all across the country and like, "Yeah, we did it." You know, and they all told the same version of the story. So, apparently they did it. I don't know if that's a crime today or not. So, but uh probably a little late for that anyhow. So that's that's the fun fact for the day. So I would like to
introduce Camden Jamie. He has been the mayor for a day. He spent a day with me. We went out on a police boat. We got a tour of the river. We saw alligators. We tooured the the uh SWAT van equipment, the fire department equipment. They
finished up by getting fingerprinted and lifting fingerprints off of a crime scene. not a real crime scene, but um so they they know how to lift fingerprints now. We had some pizza. We have then like like I said, it's been a full day and I think they're tired, but I do want to give a proclamation to to Camden
here. And so proclamation says, "Whereas in support of the Corpus Christi Catholic School Gayla of giving event this past February, the city of Temple Terrace donated the opportunity for students to serve as honorary mayor for a day, police chief for a day, and fire
chief for a day. Camden, Jamie, Camila Bennett, Wyatt Rollers were gift given this opportunity by their parents. Um, Mayor Andy Ross agreed to share his authority. What little there is of that um as mayor of the city of Temple
Terrace with Camden on a temporary basis on Tuesday, April 21st. This is temporary now. Don't get any idea. Mr. Jamie has taken a boat tour of the city as I mentioned on the Hillsbor River. He learned about the operation and use of city vehicles, participated in a fingerprint demonstration, and enjoyed a
pizza party with the city council and staff. Now, therefore, I, Andy Ross, by virtue of the authority vested me as the mayor of the city of Temple Terrace, Florida, do hereby proclaim April 21st as Camden Jamie as honorary mayor for a
day. Thank you very much. Congratulations. Let's go down and get a picture. We'll go get a picture and then you have to come back up because you got something to do. >> Okay, one more.
your president. >> Good. >> I think the pressures of the job are already showing on me. >> All right, mayor. Your turn. Hello, my name is Cam and Jamie and I'm your mayor for the day. Today I have the
special honor of presenting two very important certificates to some amazing honorary leaders in our city. On behalf of our city, I am proud to present this certificate named the honorary police chief for the day,
Camila Bennett. Thank you for pro protecting our community and for your for your service today. down. Well, I guess we'll do them together. Go one at a time. >> Yeah. Go down and give that to Camila. I
guess I better go, too. Probably come on up. Three, two, one. >> That's a good picture. >> Congratulations. Next, I would like to recognize our
honorary fire chief of the day, Wyatt Rollers. On behalf of our city, I am proud to present this certificate. Naming you honorary fire chief of the day. Thank you for helping me keep helping keep our community safe.
>> Okay. Three, two, one. Thank you. Well, Camden, that concludes your duties as mayor. I think you did a terrific job. When you think you did a great job, You have school tomorrow? >> Yes.
>> Do you have homework? >> No. >> No homework? >> Okay. >> We'll see. >> Well, thank you for coming and I enjoyed spending the day with you. Thank you, Mom, for making this happen. And and uh Okay, you can take off now.
>> You can keep that if you want. You want to keep it? >> Sure. >> Sure. Thank you. >> Thank you. Appreciate it. >> Good job. >> All right. So, I'm going to take a little um
privilege if there are no objections and I'm going to move one item up to now because we have our state attorney with us, Susie Lopez, who has um is not done for the day yet, and I'd like to kind of move that ahead so they can get um going
if that's okay with everybody. So, Miss Lopez, you if you're and your staff would want to come up to the podium. >> Thank you, Mayor. >> You're welcome. Thanks for being here. I know you've had a heck of a day. And so, >> thanks for having me, >> Mr. Jeffers. >> Hi. >> How are you? I don't know who the third
person is. You'll have to >> hi. Thank you for being here. So, this is in recognition of National Crime Victims Week. Uh whereas Florida is a law and order state and will always provide a voice to crime victims and their families. National Crime Victims
Week provides the opportunity to recognize the importance of crime victim services, ensure that victims have access to services and support, and promote discussion on how communities, organizations, and professionals can work together to reach all victims.
Dedicated victim service providers are working daily to meet the needs of crime victims, and we commend their efforts to expand services to victims who face barriers to meaningful access to services such as isolation, lack of transportation, language limitations, or
cultural barriers. Temple Terrace City Council wishes to commend Hillsboro County Victim Assistance Program uh for providing exemplary services to the victims of crime within the city of Temple Terrace and throughout Hillsboro County.
During National Crime Victims Week, the City of Temple Terrace renews its commitment to providing survivors of crime the support they need to heal. As a community, let us all work together to stop crimes before they happen and to give victims the support they need to
restore a sense of trust and safety to move towards healing and justice. Now, therefore, I, Andrew Ross, by virtue of the authority vested in me as mayor of the city of Temple Terrace, Florida, do hereby set aside April 19th through 25th as National Crime Victim
Rights Week. And thank you all for being here. And would you like to say a few words for us, please? >> Mayor, thank you very much. On behalf of the state attorney's office, we have, in my very humble opinion, the best victim's assistance program in the state of Florida, led by Chris Jeffs, and we're proud of their efforts every
single day. Tomorrow, our office is hosting an advocacy day event. It's the first that we have done to honor advocates, and we have some very special people coming and the media will be covering it. So, uh, I I encourage you to look on our social media, to watch the news, and see all the special things
that our victim's assistance program does every single day to help victims and survivors navigate the judicial process and beyond. So, thank you very much for your commitment to this and we appreciate your support all the time. Thank you. >> Thank you. And thank you for all the work that you do. I'll be there tomorrow
and and uh if you haven't ever been to that, it's really a touching event to to go to. Um, and Mr. Jeffs, this is like old home week for you. I know, but you're doing a tremendous job over there. So, >> appreciate it. Thank you. >> So, thank you. >> Okay.
>> Thank you. Thank you. >> If I don't get released before, that's where I will be. I ask you. >> Okay. Next is employee of the month for March, Natalya Lyles.
Come on up. Yeah. >> Good evening. >> Hi. >> How are you? >> I'm good. How are you? >> Good. Good. Thanks for being here. This is a big honor. >> Yes. I was surprised. >> When you've got a rockstar team like Temple Terrace to get chosen as the employee of the month, that's a big deal.
>> So, Natalyia Lyles is being recognized as employee of the month for March. Natalyia has demonstrated outstanding dedication and creativity in her role as librarian at the Temple Terrace uh city library. She's consistently produced
engaging, visually, and visually appealing social media content that highlights the library's programs and services. helping to strengthen community awareness and participation. In addition, Natalyia has shown exceptional leadership in managing the
library's new social media social work volunteer partnership with USF. Um, they're out there moving flags around planting trees all over the place, right? Ensuring a smooth coordination, clear communication, and meaningful support for patrons. Her
professionalism, initiative, and commitment to excellence have made a significant positive impact on both the library and in the community we serve. Congratulations to Natalya for being selected as the March employee of the month.
>> Um, just thank you guys. Working for Temple Terrace has been fantastic. worked at the library now for a bit and with the police department and I've had a fantastic time working here. >> How long have you been with us at the library? >> Um I started in September of 2020 right
in the middle of CO. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> And you were with the PD also? >> I was. Yeah. From 2023 to 2024. >> Okay. Well, good. Well, you've got a great team over there at the library. We we uh we Yeah, we really proud of the
work you do. So, great. Thank you. So, how about we get a picture just you getting your award and then how about we get the rest of the guys up. >> Oh, sorry about that. Okay. One, two, three. >> Library folks, come on up.
You don't mind getting picture? >> How you doing? >> Okay. One, two, three. Thank you. Actually, this works out better because Library.
>> This seems appropriate, doesn't it? Um, Teresa Frasier, our library director, would you please approach the podium? This is a proclamation in recognition of N National Library Week. >> Yeah, come on up.
>> We have library people here. members here. So, bring them on up. >> Good evening. >> All right. >> Whereas libraries have long served as trusted and treasured institutions where people of all ages, interests, and
backgrounds can come together and learn. Libraries of all types are at the heart of their cities, towns, schools, and campuses. Libraries offer members of the community a welcoming space and opportunities to explore new passions through technology programs and
services. Libraries strive to develop and maintain programs and collections that are as diverse as the populations they serve. Libraries and librarians work to create an equitable society by providing free
access to accurate information. Libraries are a resource for all community members regardless of race, ethnicity, creed, ability, sexual orientation, gender identity, or socioeconomic status by offering
services and educational programming that transform lives and strengthen communities. Now therefore, I, Andrew Ross, by virtue of the authority vested in me as mayor of the city of Temple Terrace, Florida, proclaim April 19th through 2019
through 25th as National Library Week. And so, thank you very much for all you do. We have some volunteer board members here and some professional staff. So, would you like to share a few words with us? just to say thank you for your
continued support uh for the council and the community. It is much appreciated. >> You're very welcome. And I I have to say that at least in my experience when people compliment the city about our amenities, there's really two things that they mention first. And one is the
family rec center and the other is a library. And so you guys are um really appreciated by the residents in our community. I hear that all the time from people. So, thank you for all that you do and thank you ladies for serving on the board. >> Absolutely.
Come on. >> Come on. >> Yeah, I know. >> Pushing here. >> I'll let you guys figure out the order. >> Well, let me get over here so I can get
Okay. One, two, three. I think that's a cool one. Thank you. All right, where are we? Next, we have a presentation from Hillsra County CDBG disaster relief
program. Uh the following county staff will be uh coming forward to provide an overview of the CDBG that's community development block grant disaster relief single family housing program that will launch on May 1st. We have Audrey
Ziggler, uh Angela Madero, and Raphael Cisterero. So, welcome. Thanks for being here. >> Good evening. >> Good evening, Mayor and Council members. Thank you so much for inviting us. Uh we're hoping that you'll champion our program with your residents. This program is long overdue, almost two
years. Uh we've been waiting for some sort of relief for our residents in Hillsboro County. As we drive around our communities, we still see uninhabitable conditions. We're hearing in the social services department about people that are not able to live in their full dwelling. They're in different rooms, neighbors worried about neighbors,
family members worried about family members. So, we're really hopeful that this new program, the first time ever, we've received the community services development block grant disaster recovery portion here in Hillsboro County and we're very excited to administer the program countywide. So, city of Tampa, city of Temple Terrace,
and the city of Plant City. I have Angela Madero here with me today and she'll provide some details and then we brought our consultant because we did hire some consult consultants to make sure we get it right. So, we'll all three be available for questions. But again, my name's Audrey Ziegler. the social services department director. I'm
also the lead for all of the housing funding that we'll be talking to you about today. And this group took over this funding in the middle of December. So, we have done so much to get ready since mid December till now. I know other surrounding areas have launched and we're kind of the last one to
launch, but we have a very thoughtful product. Um, and we have a very simplified application. So, we we already have our call center open. So, I won't steal Angela's Thunder, but I just want to give you all a comfort level that we're doing things right and we're here to help the most residents we can become eligible and get the services to
the people that have been waiting and need them. So, I'll introduce Angela for the details. Thank you for having us this evening. Um, as Audrey mentioned, I'm the lead for the single family housing and the multifamily housing for this program. We are going to
Thank you. We are going to focus um solely on the housing the single family housing program this evening since we'll be launching soon. >> Turn it on. There's a little switch on the side. >> Thank you. So this very first slide is an overview of the entire funding
allocation for the entire CDBGDR um grant. and you're going to hear uh CDBD GDDR, but also the rebuilding for tomorrow is the branding name for the program. So, you'll be hearing a lot of that in the media and the news, but that's really what we're going for. Uh
so, 700 plus million was allocated for the program. However, if you look at the housing section, $291 million roughly as for housing. Of that, it's broken up into three different programs. the multifamily, the special populations,
and then the single family. The single family makes up $211 million of that funding. So, there's a lot of funding out there specific for the single family program. And we will talk about who qualifies for the program. Uh, first I want to talk a little bit about um the number of
households that we'll serve. We're estimating about a thousand um households with this funding and that's based on our B our consultant BDO with their expertise and their knowledge of the programs in the past and the needs for the county. And then when I get a
little bit further in the types of the programs, you'll see why uh where that falls because some of the different fundings actually do allocate a lot of funds for an award for a um household. As Audrey mentioned, uh this is for Temple Terrace, City of Tampa, Plant
City, and all of Hillsboro County. So, it's homeowners. It's a homeowner program. It's single family houses. That's including manufacturer mobile homes. And this is um households that were affected by Hurricane Helen and Milton. So, homeowners that currently
live in the home or own the home now and um owned the home at the time of the storm. Uh we are also looking at income guidelines. So there is a income threshold. We can go up to 120% AMI which according to the chart as you
could see is 125,000 a little over $125,000 a year but we're prioritizing the 80% AMI first which for a household of four is $83,000. So here are the the three tracks for the program. And before I get into them, just a um I want to clarify something.
We know that uh these hurricanes happened a while ago and homeowners did seek resources to try to get their stuff mitigated as soon as possible. So, this program does have a duplication of benefits requirement. We cannot use this funding for um items that have already
been funded for through another uh federal funding program. So, we have been methodical and making sure that we can still assist residents even if they've received assistance. So, we can do uh scope reductions or we have developed a gap account too where homeowners would be able to deposit
funds so they can kind of get to a zero balance to where we can get an award based on these tracks and uh get them as whole as possible. So, the three tracks that we have are the reimbursement, repair and reconstruction. The reimbursement is for um s excuse me
repairs that have already been completed. So 10 $10 10,000 to $50,000 of repairs that have already been completed by the homeowner and they have to be properly permitted. Um, and then of course they have to live be uh suitable standards. The repair
program is up to $150,000 in repairs that have not yet been completed. Uh, we can supplement incomplete work like I mentioned before and the work after needs to uh, sorry, the work will be completed after we determine the eligibility and make sure that they're approved for assistance. And then the
last one is for larger major work reconstruction. It's up to $350,000 and that's to replace or reconstruct a home. And you can see some timeline some for some estimation on how quickly we'll be able to get funding out to the residents for the reimbursement. That's that's
easier. The repairs are already done. So we we're estimating that we'd probably get checks out to residents in July. And then uh the repair and reconstruction are a little bit further along uh August for the repairs and then to be determined based on the reconstruction
uh timelines that we'll have later on once the uh applications are started. This is just a little bit of like what Audrey was saying. Uh we we took over the program um just a few months ago. So showing what we've been up to. Uh we did
identify space as an intake center because we do know that we're going to need a lot of support for the residents in the community. So we identified space. We uh our consultants have um trained staff in addition to county staff. So onboarding and training system development. We have worked um pretty
tirelessly trying to make sure that this application is wellreceived by residents, very easy to follow and as simplified as possible while still m remaining in compliance with uh HUD requirements. And then we've also been doing tons of outreach uh making sure
that the community is well aware of the programming. Uh I have another slide talking about some of our um customer touch points, but one of the things that we started early on was we had a call center that we launched this week on Monday. So we could have people start calling ahead of time, have some support
to make sure that they are aware of the program, they have questions answered, they're well prepared for our launch in on May 1st to actually submit their application. And then of course the the bottom part is just making sure that we're still in communication with HUD along the way, making sure that we're
meeting approvals and staying in compliance. I just want to mention again that dotted line there is very important because that's our launch date, May 1st, which is just around the corner. Okay. And then uh this is what I was
talking about before about some of the resident support channels. We have a intake center. Uh it's at uh excuse me off of East Hillsbor Avenue, 1029 East Hillsbor Avenue. It will be open all of May from 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. to make sure that it's open for residents that
can get there before work or after work if needed. And we will have assistance available in multiple languages. >> Saturday. >> Thank you. And some Saturday hours as well. Um call center, it opened on Monday. It is open right now 8 to 5, but coming May
it'll be 7:00 to 7:00 as well. and we will have assistance there um in multiple languages. And then we're also utilizing the Hillsbor County Social Services Resource Centers. So, we have the them spread out throughout the county as well. We have one in Plant City. We have one off of Fletcher. Uh
one near Eore City and another one in West Tampa. And then we're also going to have a location in the Y mama area. So all throughout the county to where people would be able to come in and actually talk to a case manager in person in addition to that intake site too to help uh people submit their
applications. Okay. And then this is just a little bit about our outreach efforts. Uh as I mentioned before uh rebuilding for tomorrow is the branding name. So there is a website for this entire program rebuilding for tomorrow.hcfl.gov.
gov. Uh we've been telling everybody to go there. It's already receiving a lot of traffic. It's not just not just talking about the housing programs. It's the overall CDBGDR programming, but you can go specifically narrow down to the housing for the residents. We're attending tons of community events.
Anybody that wants to hear about us, we're up in front speaking about it, of course, we're happy to. We want to make sure that it's uh very well known. We've been doing media uh coverage already. We're getting some some news stories out there. So, you'll probably see us on the news in the next couple weeks uh using
traditional media as well and then some of the social media. And then we're also teaming with some other datadriven targeting efforts. So, FEMA, SBA, all of those things that already have some information on residents that they've been collecting over time that we can
use to make sure that we're connecting with the right folks. And then this is just again um Audrey introduced herself and and myself. We're over the housing programs, but this is the leads for all the other teams uh that we're working for the entire grant.
Uh Rob Hendrickson's over the entire CDBGDR programming. He's with the county. And then we have our compliance and our infrastructure programs as well. >> That's it. Anybody have any questions? >> Council members questions? Council
member Fernandez, >> how would a member of this community actually submit an application? Is there I know you've got the intake centers, but is there like a an online application, a website they can go to?
>> Yes, the they will be able to read um access the application through the rebuilding for tomorrow website and it is an online portal application that they would be able to submit on their own. Is this the kind of information that the city could also help promote on
our social media sites, etc.? >> Yes. In fact, and the county staff, I want to commend the county staff. They they've been great to work with. U Miss Madero, if you can forward me this presentation tonight, we'll put it on our website, our social media, and we'll get the word out as well. Um, in fact,
if you want to One thing I didn't notice was the the actual uh web address on the presentation. If you throw that on there, it probably make it easier. Yes, I will. >> Okay. Thank you. >> And I'll just note people can apply in person. They can apply online. They can also call the call center and apply over the phone. Obviously, you can't give us
your documentation over the phone, but you can email documentation. You can come in person. If people have disabilities or they have tr mobility issues, we will also do home visits to get documentation from applicants as well. Um, so really three paths of application both in person, online, or
via the phone. And one thing I'd like to add about the application, we were we're doing something a little bit different where someone can just put their name and address and press submit and we'll reach out to them. We're not requiring people to upload every single thing and check every dot, every eye, every T
crossed because if not, people will be discouraged and won't hit submit. So whatever the minimal information is your name, how we can contact you and your address, once you press submit, if there's nothing there, we're going to call you anyway. So, we worked very closely with our consultant to make sure that applications could be submitted
easily. Um, because anybody that's fatigued of these programs already or it's just overwhelming or looks like it's too cumbersome, they're going to give up. So, and part of that once they submit the we have case managers and they're actually working with the resident to make sure that they're
answering questions. It's not just going straight to an eligibility check, making sure that they're understanding, getting all the documents, and that we know that could take a couple weeks, and that's what this process is going to allow for. >> Okay. I just have one more question, and that has to do with what types of
repairs. Um, I know in the reconstruction that's obvious, but as far as repairs, are there limits or specific areas that wouldn't be considered? We're not we will not be doing um any type of remodel work. So if
somebody just arbitrarily wanted to remodel their kitchen during the storm and then tries to apply it, then when the adjusters or the inspectors go out there, those types of repairs won't be won't be addressed through this program. It has to be something that is a repair from damage from the storm.
>> And the repairs are all to just bring that repairs will be done and reconstruction will be done at standard builder's grade. So you'll get a good countertop, but you won't get marble. Um, and you repairs will bring the house up to what was called the decent, safe, and sanitary standard. So livable in
your home. Nothing beyond kind of the making sure your home is liveable. >> Okay. >> But the rebuilds are, if you had a one-bedroom, you're going to get a two-bedroom. The standard rebuild is a two-bedroom. Two-bedroom gets a two-bedroom. Threebedroom gets a threebedroom. So we're trying to put people back to where they were. But if
it was a onebedroom and we have to rebuild it, it goes to a two-bedroom. I I believe two-bedroom, two bath. >> Correct. Everything is a two bath. If you had over four bedrooms, uh you'll get a fourbedroom. So if you had five bedrooms, you get a fourbedroom. >> There's a lot of devils details. What is
that? Devil in the details. >> Okay. So people should if they have a question more specific um and they had a loss during the storms they should really reach out to this to one of those methods to get their questioning
>> and apply. Don't self- select yourself out right apply or call us. Let us figure out what we can do. This really is a program to try to get to yes to try to help these people not to say no. So, we'll work every angle that we can um within the guidelines to try to get you
the assist the applicants assistance they need. >> We've put a lot of work into this to just say no. >> Any other questions? Council members by council members. >> Yes. Thank you. Most of my questions have been answered already, but it's more of a comment. Thank you for coming out. Thank you for making this
presentation. The city manager will make sure this gets broadcast to to our constituents and our residents, but uh this is this is good information. Thank you for bringing bring it to us. >> Your residents will be in good hands. We served countywide through the emergency rental assistance program during COVID.
Um and you only heard good things about that program. We got a lot of funding to people that that were um you know harmed by the storm by the uh by the pandemic and lost wages and whatnot. So I think that's why we were called upon to take on this this project as well. >> Council member Kravitz, I believe you
had a question. >> Thank you. Yeah. Um I think in the affordable housing committee at Hillsboro County uh this topic came up and am I mistaken in in in assuming here that there is going to be some provision made to harden the rebuilds against uh
weather because one of the big concerns was to make sure that insurance remains affordable for these homes in the future. >> Correct. >> Yeah, that is correct. So, some of the standard things in building in in the new builds or any repairs that we'll do is, you know, hurricane resistant
windows, um, siding that's not going to fly off during the hurricane, roofs that are hurricane resistant. So, yes, definitely some resilience measures built into the rebuilds and the repairs that'll be done. >> Thank you. That's great because I just wanted to bring up that as a
clarification, not as criticism, but because of the mention of builder grade. And so, you know, builder grade may apply to the interior, but when it comes to the exterior, these are going to be rebuilt homes that have a lot more >> uh going for them than the homes that were destroyed, regrettably.
>> And work is warranted for one year as well. >> That's also wonderful. >> And also just note if um a reconstruction is needing to be done and you are in a flood plane that needs a certain level of elevation, this program will also elevate your home. >> That's wonderful. Thank uh and and apply
any reasonable accommodations needed for anyone who might need assistance getting up to that elevated home. >> Yeah, fantastic news. And you know, getting people in homes and keeping them in their homes in an affordable way is so incredibly important right now and I'm just incredibly relieved to see something being done for people who are
trying to be in single family homes with their families. So, thank you very much and I wish you all the best and good luck on this. >> Thank you. >> Well, thank you very much for being here. uh very informative and and uh we look forward to working with you as this project unfolds. So
>> uh feel free to welcome us back and we'll give you the the details of the statistics, the number of residents we're helping, how much funding has been expended, how many are in the zip codes. >> Very good. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. >> Have a good evening. >> You too. Thank you. Okay. Next up, we have a police pension
board of trustees appointment. Actually, two of them. There are two members, city representative members, vacancies on the police pension board. City council appoints these members. The board shall consist of five trustees, two of whom,
unless otherwise prohibited by law, shall be legal residents of the of the municipality, who shall be appointed by the city council and may be the mayor and/or city council members who will hold that position exeicio to their elected offices.
It is recommended that myself be appointed to a two-year term from May 7th, 2028. No, for me start over. Recommended that Mayor Ross be appointed for a two-year term until May 7th, 2028.
Council member Gil Schistler is appointed should be appointed for a term ending December 1st and 2026 to coincide with the end of his term as city council. And so um this can be cons done done in one motion if it's
acceptable to the council. Um and if there are uh no objections then now would be a good time for a motion. So >> moved. >> Second. >> Motion and a second. Discussion of the motion. Okay. All those in favor say I. >> I.
>> I. Opposed. No nazs. We are reappointed. Next. There are two vacancies for alternate members on the historical preservation board. One, the terms are a little different. One is to fill the remainder of a term till November 7th of
2027. The second is to fill the remainder of a term that ends sooner uh until November 7th, 2026. So the city receives three applications for appointment from Alyssa Hines,
Meredith Ael, and Sharon Gaskin. Uh which necessitates a ballot vote to appoint two. We have two vacancies and three applicants. And so I believe city clerk we decided we're going to do one at a time, right? Is that to keep it
simple? We had one time a couple years ago we had this and it got really confusing. >> Yes, sir. We had I had discussed it with the city attorney and with it having they do not have the same ending date.
one will be ending will be extended of an appointment through November 7th, 2027 and the other one is November 7th, 2026. Therefore, it was decided it would be best to do each one separate.
>> Okay. So, we will do one at a time. What's the point order. Uh, we do have some of the applicants in the audience. Uh, I'm wondering whether we should maybe hear from them before we cast the votes. >> We could do that. Sure. >> I see Miss Hines here. Are there other I
don't see Miss Gaskin or Miss Able. Miss Hines, would you like to say a few words? You don't have to. It's up to you. >> Um, >> if you do, you have to come up. >> Good evening. Hi. Um, not sure what I what I'm supposed to come up here and say. Anyway, um, I
wanted to join this board because I wanted to put have there be some way for me able to help our city out. Um, my although my husband's family is born and raised here, they've, you know, raised their whole family here. I've been here for about 15 years now. And I've always
tried to figure out a way to be able to make this city, you know, my family's home also and, you know, to make it the best it can be. And so I think helping with the historic preservation of our city is one of the ways I can do that. >> Thank you very much. And I don't see
either of the other two applicants here. Okay. >> I have a question. >> Yes, Vice Mayor. >> So we are voting with one sheet for the first one and read those results and then voting with the next sheet because that may change your >> second vote. That correct?
>> I'm getting a yes. >> That's correct. Okay. So, we're handing you the first sheet. >> Yes. The the one that is dated highlighted in pink of 117207. >> Good. Okay. Thank you for that clarification. >> Just vote for one on that sheet.
>> Good catch. Thanks. Thank you. Mayor and Council members, the highest vote is Meredith Ael with three votes for the position extending through November 7th, 2027. Okay. Second
Thank you. Mayor and council members, the highest vote is Sharon Gaskin with three votes for the position extending through November 7th, 2026. >> Thank you, Madam Clerk. Council, is there a motion? We can do both of them
on one if you read the uh just have to clarify which one for which term. >> Isn't Isn't the point of the ballot to >> No, we still need a motion to appoint. Move to approve the appointment historic preservation board of Meredith Ael as
alternate member for a term until November 7th, 2027 and for the appointment of uh Sharon Gaskin as alternate member for a term until November 7th, 2026. >> Second. Any discussion of the motion?
All those in favor say I. >> I. I. >> Opposed? No. Thank you, Miss Hines. Okay. Everybody had an opportunity to review the minutes of our April 7th city council meeting. And if so, is there a
motion to approve? >> Move to approve. >> Second. >> Any discussion or corrections to the minutes? Seeing none, all those in favor say I. >> I. >> I. Opposed. No. Persons wishing to be heard on items
not listed on the agenda or items on the consent agenda. There are requests. This is all public comment. Very good. Request to address the mayor and council are forms that look like this. They're on the table in the back
of the room. If you would like to address the council, um you can now fill one out now. It's not too late. Uh we do have a 30 minute time limit on this section of the meeting. If necessary, we continue the public comment at the end of the meeting. Um, if we need more
time, I don't that's I think that's only been happened once, but it it could happen. We have a threeminut time limit and spoke uh is imposed on each speaker and we ask you that you come to the podium and state your name and city of residence. Our first uh request to speak
is Mr. Loe. You are recognized, sir. Good evening. >> Good evening. >> Good evening, everybody. Happy Earth Day. Uh I'm Charles Lo Terrace Park and I wanted to go first of all obviously besides congratulating the library this week and my main topic of tonight's
conversation is the followup of what I was talking about uh to try to get some money into the city uh having to do with an organized plan of trying to get people from the stadium uh to uh and the hotel when it opens up to the city of
Temple Terrace. we have to take the idea that some of them are going to come from the airport and thus might not even realize that there are people just to the east that would be happy to serve them. Uh anyway, to make a long story short, I went and talked on April 10th to um uh Miss Harrington over at the
Chamber of Commerce, and we came up with the idea of uh using a QR code to joint market all the businesses over here, all the businesses that are going to participate to uh to try to get people to realize that when the stadium opens
and when the um and when the hotel opens that there's people wanting to serve them over here. Uh we also I also got some questions answered about what's going to go on at Moshi. Uh of course I want to remind you all there's a meeting uh on Thursday
evening at 5:00 downtown in Old City Hall uh that's going to be dealing with the planning and zoning of it uh of Moshi. And of course this is of concern or should be of concern to both sides of 52nd Street. Uh, one concern of course
was the new fire rescue station that we talked about over the neighbor Terrace Park neighborhood association so they can get through through the traffic. Another is rather uh Moshi is going to keep some of the programs from what I heard they probably will be keeping some
of the programs. However, uh that uh they already have certain commitments at the hotel until 29 till 2029 already. Let me see what uh we also uh have talked about, you know, just the idea of
getting uh for the community development around here of getting people to on the marketing approach, talking about joint marketing toward the city, not only within the immediate area, as I'm hopeful people would want to stay, but also within the CRA. So, you all would
be able to have potential if you have your properties open and all that, you might want to take your own joint marketing approach toward trying to get people in to develop and and once they see this community, I'm sure they're going to love it like I do. Uh but anyway, we're we're working on
this also across 50th Street Terrace Park Neighborhood Association and I'm also hoping that we can get uh as a facilitator uh the fire rescue and the zoning people together because I think this will be very handy in case of an emergency if everybody's on the same
page. The idea is to maximize profits and potential and to minimize problems. Thank you and good evening. >> Thank you, Mr. Lo. Jay Courtright. >> Good evening. >> Good evening. Um, I addressed you all uh
a few years ago about 78th Street and I wanted to follow up on that now because it's become a little more urgent. Um, I'm requesting um that the city conduct a survey or whatever the right
word is for a traffic analysis of what's going on on 78th Street between Harney and Temple Terrace Highway. It's become quite a thoroughare particularly since um Amazon distribution has built their
center there. not the trucks, but people going to and from. And there's more housing now on Sly. There's a very large apartment complex there. And so, um, there's quite a bit more traffic on 78th
than there was a few years ago. And the speed limit on 78th is 40 miles an hour. Now, even on Temple Terrace Highway, the speed limit has been dropped to 40.
And so to continue a 40 mph speed limit on a road that is patched and kind of crumbling and doesn't have any formal shoulder and only pieces of sidewalk
uh seems unsafe. Uh uh 78th Street has school buses on it. It also has heart public buses, public transportation on it. And the waiting areas for the public buses can't
be improved because the sidewalks are either non-existent or don't fit together with anything else. It's just a piece of sidewalk that doesn't lead to anything else. So, um,
I would like the existing sidewalks to be connected to new sidewalks so that there's a continuous sidewalk on each side of the street and to have real shoulders, real curbs, turn lanes. There
are a few thousand people living off 78th Street. It's very heavily residential. There are lots of kids. And now with e- scooters and ebicycles, there are a lot of young people whose judgment
isn't always consistent with riding out on the road because there's no choice. Uh some do go on the grass, but those vehicles were not meant to go on uh you know, anything but maybe a putting green, but we don't have any of
those there. So, I would like the city to take a real serious look at that stretch of road with the idea if it were a brand new road and that were a part of the city that was being created or expanded now, um what standards, what
code would it have to reach now? Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Court. So, city manager, you're gonna that that's a county road, but >> yeah. >> Yeah. Well, >> would you keep um circle back with Miss Court right and keep the council
informed? I'm sure you would anyway, but thank you. >> All right. I'm having a little trouble with this one. Hadil Abu and the last name is what? There we go. I can't I can't quite make out the >> It's Abu Fra.
>> Frazzia. That's it. Okay. Well, good evening, ma'am. >> Good evening. Um, I'm just gonna read off of this. Um, my name is Hideila Buffia and I'm a resident of the Park at Valencia located at 6900 Aruba Avenue here in Tumble Terrace. So, I'm standing here before you tonight because this
situation is urgent. My family, my infant baby, and hundreds of other residents are dealing with repeated water shut offs and living conditions that no family should have to endure. When we first moved in on January 28th of this year, the water was being shut off almost daily, often without warning,
along with random emergency shut offs. Later, it changed to regular shut offs Monday, Wednesday, and Fridays from 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. with additional random shut off on other days. But this did not start when I moved in. Public reviews and complaints show residents were reporting water being shut off without
notice years before my family arrived. Later complaints describe the same repeated shut offs continuing with no lasting solution. This problem has continued through a multiple ownerships and management changes. What I need is I need this council to understand what this means for families. No water means
no bottles for babies, no bathing children, no washing dishes, no laundry, no toilet functioning properly, no cleaning, and no basic sanitation. >> Um families are expected to live like this while continuing to pay rent every month. This is not the only issue. Public complaints over the years also
describe sewage flooding, pest mold, and unresolved maintenance problems. Many residents feel ignored and powerless. Residents are also being build monthly for water while dealing with repeated outages. Many of us have paid pest control charges while still living with
pest problems. Another serious concern is communication. There have been times res residents needed maintenance help and management phones were turned off, calls would not go through and voicemails would um not be answered, including after hours when emergencies would happen. Florida law requires he
sorry, I'm sorry, habitational housing and reuse um reasonable provisions for running water. Families should not be living through repeated shut offs year after year. I understand that some lander tenants matters are civil issues, but health, sanitation, and housing
conditions are also community concerns. This is urgent. Families should not have to wonder why they have no water again. I'm here and I'm holding my baby tonight. Families and deserve safe housing, dignity, and reliable running water. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Mr. Frasier. >> So, Gina Horton. So, let me before you start. No, no, no. Come on up. But before we start the clock, it looks like you are speaking for you and two other people. >> My mom and my dad. >> Are they here?
>> Um, my mother's here. >> So, you are >> Janice Horton. >> Janice Horton. And you want to You're going to donate your time to her to speak >> on behalf. >> Okay. Well, you get three minutes for you and that gives you another minute. That's why I'm trying to
>> Okay. Well, let's do that. Your dad's not here. >> He No, if it's not the golf course. No. No, sir. >> Okay. So, you'll get your three minutes and you'll get an extra minute because you're speaking for your mom as well. >> Both my parents. >> So, we'll set the clock for four
minutes. And I just want to make sure you got all the time you're entitled to. So, >> thank you. You're welcome. >> Well, first of all, thank you for having me. Um, and I wanted to also say I'm piggybacking off of what she said because it's the truth. It's worse than
my mom and dad have resided in the park of Valenca for 21 years and it used to be a beautiful community and you could walk your dogs and there were potlucks and there were it was just a nice area and I moved them there before I moved to
Los Angeles. I've come back now because last year we almost lost my father and due to the um mold in the carpet. There's mold. They they come in, they paint over it,
but then they don't fix anything. And my mom and dad, they did have the first occupied rehab in the community, and it can be doable. I wrote to management. Um, I did speak to the maintenance manager. He did tell me that the
appliances did need to be changed. Like, I turned on one burner, another burner turned on, the food burned up. There's so much more that I have in all of these folders. And I don't know who else to talk to. This
is why I'm here. I've never had to do this before, but I'm worried for my mom and my dad. So, when you spend two weeks in a hospital because your dad almost died on February 13th because of these problems with breathing, we're saying the carpet needs to be ripped up and
they do have to paint the walls because they came in and they they messed up more than what my mom and dad, they don't try to make problems. But me, I'm going to make a problem because those these are my parents and I am their
their caretaker. It's just me. I can't lose them. So, everyone here, I know a few people here, water, we don't even know when it's going to go off or come back on. We don't know when we can take a shower. So, do it at night. Sewage comes up
through the sinks. So, before you run the dishwashers, which need to be replaced as well, you will smell sewage. So, then you run water and put pine salt in there. It was not like that before. This was a neighborhood. This was a
place where you were safe. When COVID hit and before they sold the property from Blue Rock and now RPM is handling it, um they let people buy their way in. So people were buying their way in and
there was so much crime that was not reported but it was there and I even got sworn were subpoenas and I had to do a um a deposition for something I didn't even see when I was visiting with my brother because there was a shooting
right outside of my parents. So I have had to buy air purifiers for every room I have. It's they have a threebedroom. Um, I've had to relocate. I've had to put water filters in the sink, in the kitchen, in
the in the um in the bathrooms. I have bought so many things for cleaning and making sure that they're safe and I'm safe as well because I am a cancer patient and I I live with it and it's just not right when you try to contact
anyone at the in front of like I have emails. I have copies of everything, anything that you need. Trying to communicate with these people. They don't want to do it. And I'm saying take care of the ones that you that have been taking care of you and paying their rent
for so long and you're not taking care. You're not even even trying to come to them. So, this clock is bothering me. So, I'm like, okay. But I I don't know if anybody else wants to come up from Parker Valencia, but it something needs
to change. We need to have some type of reaction to this action that's going on now. So, if my mom would like to speak, she can because she does have a letter from her doctor and it it's not good. So, and that just happened last week.
>> Thank you, M. >> Thank you for your time. So, city manager, um, again, >> I see Mr. Shanks is taking notes on that. >> So, both of these, uh, speakers have their email on the form, so we have an
ability to circle back with. So, our staff will be in touch. Um, just we we're not going to be able to resolve these issues up here tonight, but I do want to tell you that everybody up here on the deis is concerned about your well-being and our staff will be
following up with you and letting us know more about what's discovered. So, are there other members of the public who wish to address the council at this time? That's the last of the forms I have. >> But you gave up your time. >> I know, but I only got 20 seconds.
>> 20 seconds. But that's it because you did give up your time. So, >> yeah, she gave it to you. >> 20 seconds. >> Okay. >> You're making me break the rules. >> I'm so sorry. And that's not part of my 20 seconds. >> Okay. No.
>> Okay. My daughter and I got together all the information and what was going on in the residence. And not just our residents, but other residents. But I think I'm the oldest one. I've been the they're the oldest. and we we compiled
it. So, if you need copies of everything, we'll be happy to provide it for you. Okay? Uh we just ask that it's fair that we're treated as fair as the new people that they're bringing in. They're going into brand new apartments.
And my apartment, we even said, Oh, you got a timer on me. We no, we even said we'd move everything out so they could make the changes, make the arrangements like they're putting in new for everybody else. That's all I asked. And they said, "You
can move." And I said, "Uh, that's my home. Why should I have to move if we're willing to work with you? Can't you work with us? Cuz if I move out, you're going to do it anyway." >> I'm done. >> Thank you, Miss Horton. You're welcome.
Madame Clerk, for the record, that was Janet Horton. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yes. Council member Kravitz. >> Have a question for um city manager or anyone else from staff who might be able to shed some light on it. We require uh habitability inspections for all
rentals. Uh, and I know that because I uh rent out houses in Temple Terrace, and I just want to know if the commercial developments that we have in the city are subject to the same inspections and rules under our current code at a minimum. >> Well, I need to get the fire chief or
Mr. Shanks to come up and answer that question. >> Ian Kemp, the fire chief. Um, so condominiums that are rented, we can inspect, but apartments are are not. We do not inspect apartments. Is that because the code does not
subject them to that? >> Yeah. And I don't think we're allowed to. I think it's uh they do have fire inspections. Um there are time we go in and do fire inspections, but we can't go inside the homes. Um just because they're apartments. It's just I don't
think it's it's a it's a legal issue. Um I don't think even if we wanted to, we could. >> Okay. Well, that's certainly something I'll look into. Thank you. Yeah. >> And to that point, uh we we spent I spent a lot of time over at Parker Flint. I was over there this afternoon,
uh inspecting a a residents. Uh so we're going to be spend more time. I'll I'll speak with the city manager and come up with a with a different kind of game plan to encroach the the bigger area as a whole, get the team involved. >> Yeah. Thank you. I know it well. Also, I canvased there when I was campaigning. I
think it's a be it looked beautiful, you know, it's got the lovely little lake set up and uh all the little uh le uh trees and so on. So, it it made a very nice impression and I'm surprised to hear all of this and it's very concerning and I I remember something very similar at um a couple of other
apartments that I canvased when I just people telling me absolutely horrible stories and I I told them as far as I know they're all subject to habitability inspection and if we have apartments here in the city we need to find out whatever we can do to subject them to more rigorous standards because the
housing stock in the commercial apartment sector in the city seems to really be on the ropes and it's very concerning to me to see this kind of quality housing being um put on the market here in Temple Terrace. And if there's any lever that we can pull to address it, then I will absolutely bring that to council and I will push that
through if I possibly can because uh we we have a good standard for most of our housing in Temple Terrace, especially the rental housing because of the rental inspection program. And if there are landlords who are not uh obeying that same standard, then that will damage the reputation of the city. And of course,
it's also very bad for the people who have to live in those places. So, thank you very much for the information. >> I will say that the uh the the new ownership has been easy to work with. They've been very receptive to us. Uh so, we'll bring these this new information to them and see what we can get done pretty quickly. >> Thank you.
>> Thank you, >> mayor. >> Yes. >> As liaison to code, I have a comment. >> Okay. Is that allowed Vice Mayor Chamber? >> Thank you. So to to that uh yes the new owners because I've been a liazison to the code board and they've been before
the code board mostly for safety violations, fire alarm, water sprinklers, things like that that our city was very good to point out a while ago and the new owners have been very responsive and I believe everything has been fire safety wise repaired. Is that
correct, Mr. Shank? Just I Yes, he said yes for the record. So the code is working with that and the fire department and the fire inspector for uh life safety on the outside and inside. So I know it's being done. Thank you. >> Okay. We we need to give the city
manager and staff time to address the complaint and not we've got an agenda to we need to move on to. Um so are there other members of the public who wish to address the council? >> Okay. >> Can you just ask anybody here to raise
their hand? from Parker Velissa because >> I think there's there's so many people here and they don't have a voice because you know they don't want to be in trouble with >> Okay, we're we're gonna >> Someone wants to speak you just raise your hand. >> Yeah, I've asked twice.
>> Okay. Yeah. I just I just have a question cuz I >> You ma'am, you've already spoken. >> No, no, I just have a question cuz I have >> You You can't do that. >> This is not a town hall meeting back and forth. So you you have already spoken. We we've heard your complaints. It's
everybody up here cares about your complaints and your well-being. >> Email address. >> I'm sorry. >> Email address. You guys provide an email address. >> Sure. >> City manager, would you provide your email address? >> Sure. >> Or Mr. Shanks. >> Shanks. I think just
>> Mr. Shanks, would you please get with her and give her your email address? >> Okay. This council member is acting like he's the only one up here that cares about you. He's not. The rest of us do, too. >> Okay. Second public.
>> You're the only one that cares. Yes, I know. >> Everyone knows and that is case and I don't think there's any reason to think anyone up here doesn't care about >> No, we don't care. We absolutely right. Why would we do this job and if we hated the city? What an idiot.
>> I'm sorry. I'm saying we all do care. >> We do care. >> And that's why I'm eager to see this move forward. It'll be great. >> Second public hearing and second reading of ordinance 1593 authorizing the issuance of a general obligation bonds subject to a bond referendum in an
amount not to exceed $50 million and calling a bond referendum to the qualified electors of the city to be held on August 18th, 2026. I'll open the public hearing. City manager, >> Mr. Mayor, members of council, second reading, second public hearing on this
item. This is to uh the council. also desires to allow us to put the um general obligation bond question on the August 18th ballot for the primary. Um I believe >> Chris. Okay. Thank you. So we have a representation from here as we did
the first hearing. If council has any questions or members of the public have questions that you'd like directed to council. >> Good. Thank you. Are there members of the public who wish to comment on this item? >> Not council members. Are there questions?
Is this regarding item 12B? >> 12. >> 12 A >> 12 A >> 12 A. >> Um >> I do. >> Council member Kravitz. >> I think I think Council Member Fernandez asked first. >> Go ahead. Council member Schistler.
>> No questions. >> Good. >> Council member Fernandez. >> Um so I just to clarify the order of this process. So, if we approve this tonight on the second reading, does that mean that this the language is final? Everything is ready to go for the
primary ballot or will there be anything else that needs to be done? >> Good evening, council members. I'm Chris Row with Bryant Miller Olive. Yes, ma'am. This is the final step to approve the ballot question. If you adopt this ordinance as as it's written, um you will finalize the question. It will then
be transmitted to the supervisor of elections for inclusion on the August 18th primary ballot. >> Okay. And then does the supervisor of elections have any will there be an opportunity or would they need to come back to us and say we
don't agree with your language or do they not have a say in that once we've finalized? >> No, ma'am. They they typically do not um come back to you with input on the text of the ballot question itself. They leave it to the city to approve the ballot question and through its legal council ensure that it meets the legal
requirements imposed by state law, which it it does. It describes the purpose of the referendum, the maximum amount of bonds that could be issued if the referendum is approved, certain other details about the bond issue, most importantly what the purpose of the bond issue is, of course, the public safety
complex. The supervisor's office typically will not come back to you and say, "Hey, we need to make some changes or we're not going to put it on the ballot as long as you have met the legal sufficiency," which this question does. >> Okay? >> They will require uh typically though that we provide as the city uh translation of the ballot question into
Spanish so that the ballot can be published in both English and Spanish. >> Okay. And then I just I have one more question and that has to do with the placement on the ballot. Um, the supervisor of elections controls that the order of items on the ballot.
Is that correct? >> That's correct. I think that might even be a function of state law. It's typically the uh candidates for office followed by referenda matters. >> Okay. So, that's it. >> Vice Mayor, Council Member Sistler. Okay. Are you
ready, Council Member Kravitz? >> I just want to briefly state this is uh a motion to put the question to the voters. This is not a motion tonight to approve anything other than that. Correct. >> That's right. It approves the ballot question and schedules the referendum to
be held in conjunction with the August 18th. >> And while I have the floor, I'd like to make one other comment. When I was first elected, I was accused of breaching to quorum once or twice because I, in a friendly manner, referred to Council Member Fernandez as Allison. I believe I also might have once referred to Council Member, excuse me, Vice Mayor Chambers
as James. And it makes me very uncomfortable that because I get to stand up and pass out a card so that people can contact me about this issue, I'm accused in a public forum when you, Mr. Chair, do not have the floor of trying to somehow put myself in the
spotlight when the truth is that all I want is for this issue to move forward so that the city works better for the people who live here. I'm not interested in grandizing myself in the slightest. I have absolutely no need of that. and the accusations that you just made against me are what sour this body, not my
behavior, but the constant attacks that are directed at me in an extremely rude and inappropriate manner. And so I believe that what I just experienced now was a breach of decorum. And I think it should be reflected in the record as such, but I don't make any motion other than that. So I will yield my time.
Thank you. >> Well, I'm glad that you didn't make a motion because I'd like to see the vote on that. And you breached decorum one for entering into discussion with people during public comment. That's not what we do. Two, as I'm sorry, everybody
knows that you clearly want to be seen as the only person up here who cares about anything and that we're a bunch of cold-hearted bureaucrats. Now, why we would do this job for the pay that we get if we hated everybody and didn't care about anything is beyond me. So
yes, you getting up and going down there handing out your card. You're not the contact for this. Mr. Shanks is. And so you're the one that breached a quorum. And yes, you are trying to grandstand and make it look like you're the only one that cares about the city.
So go ahead and make your motion. Right now, we have to make a motion to to move city business forward. >> I move to move city business forward. >> Okay. Very good. Then we do have Are there any other questions? Really,
we're back on the bond issue. Are there any questions about the bond issue? If not, I will close the public hearing and ask the clerk to read the title of the ordinance. An ordinance of the city council of the city of Temple Terrace, Florida, authorizing the issuance subject to the
bond referendum herein provided for of not to exceed $50 million general obligation bonds in one or more series for the city of Temple Terrace, Florida payable from the full full faith credit
and unlimited ad floorum taxing power of the city to finance the construction and equipping of a public safety complex, including a new police station, a new fire station, and related facilities, providing for and calling a bond
referendum of the qualified electors of the city to be held on August 18th, 2026, providing for official ballots, providing for bond referendum procedures, establishing intent to reimburse such capital expenditures
incured with proceeds of such general obligation bonds, providing severability, repealing all ordinances or parts of ordinances in conflict herewith, and providing an effective date. >> Thank you, Madame Clerk. Council, is
there a motion? >> Yes. >> Oh, go ahead. >> Okay. Move to approve on second reading ordinance 1593 authorizing the issuance of general obligation bonds subject to a bond referendum in an amount not to
exceed $50 million and calling a bond referendum of the qualified electors of the city to be held on August 18th 2026. >> Second motion second discussion of the motion. >> I have a comment. >> Council member Fernandez. Um, so I want
to just make sure that if anybody has questions about this issue that you reach out to a council member or city staff and we are very happy to answer your questions about it. But I really want to encourage you all to find out as
much as you can about this issue because you, the voters, are going to be the ones deciding to move forward or not move forward. and the primary election turnout tends to be fairly small. So,
I'm also going to ask all of you who think that this is an important issue and adds value to the city um or or or if you're against it either way to please make sure that you come out and vote in the primary election just so
that we get a good representation of voices in the city. So, that's my comment. Thank you council members. Other discussion of the motion? If not, all those in favor say I. I. >> I. Opposed? No. Nays. >> Approved on second reading. Thank you,
sir. Next, we have a first public hearing and first reading of an ordinance reszoning property on the north side of Harney Road, otherwise known as RZP25-01. City attorney, would you please pull the council for exparte communications?
All right. Um, has any member of the city council had an any communications with anyone regarding the matters that are coming before the board this evening for quasi judicial hearing? And that would be items 12 B.
That is all 12b this item. So uh if you've had verbal exparte communications, please disclose when, where, and with whom those communications occurred as well as the sum and substance of those communications. If you received written communications, please disclose the form
of those written communications. Uh identify who sent the communications and the sub and substance of those communications. >> Council member Fernandez, >> I have no communications regarding this matter. >> Right. Thank you, Council. Mayor, >> I've had none.
>> Council member, >> I have had none. >> Council member Kravitz, >> as I've said, I think two times before, I've discussed this multiple times, but I haven't discussed the reasonzoning >> the for the uh Harmony Road matter. Yes. >> Um, this is actually not the safety
complex. >> Sorry, >> I don't believe this is the safety complex. This is for uh a different property. >> This Oh, this is first reading of a new matter. Pardon me. Then I haven't had any. Thank you. >> All right. Thank you. Mr. Moredo. Oh, I got to open public hearing. Uh, first reading. First
reading. Open the public hearing. And our city planner, Joe Moretta, is here to explain. Good evening. >> Good evening, mayor and city council. And thank you for the opportunity to present uh resoning 251 uh for Point Plaza lot 3.
This is a request to modify an existing plan development located on Harney Road, 245 ft east of Davis Road. Uh this project uh has been existing for a while. It's known as Point Plaza. The existing Point Plaza PD includes four
lots. Um the total allows up to a maximum of 110,000 square ft of commercial use. Uh the applicant is repose proposing to revise lot three only uh to add an additional 30,000 square ft of limited light
industrial commercial and no outdoor storage uses proposed. Uh you can see on the graphic lot three in the red that's the only area that's proposed for change. Just to speak a little bit about what's in the ground and what's allowed in this
area uh on this site. Um the northern portion of the PD includes lots 1, 2, and 4. That's approximately 12.7 acres. Uh again, these areas are not proposed for change. And you can see on the graphic there's an existing shopping center with the Wind Dixie. And um
that's in lot four. Lots one and two are currently undeveloped. Lot three again is what's proposed for revision. It's a vacant development pad and it also includes a master retention area for the PD. Lot three itself is 3.9
acres. Getting into the conceptual plan, uh the project is proposed for development in accordance with a light industrial district which has development standards tailored for type of uses that are allowed. Uh for example, light industrial has performance standards
included in that district. Uh the property has a future land use of community mixeduse 12 in the comprehensive plan and that land use category allows for this type of use uh to be considered. The conceptual plan proposes two buildings 15,000 square
feet each for a total of 30,000 square ft. And you can see on the graphic the depiction of the location where the two buildings will align on the site. a little bit more on the access for lot three. Um there will be an access point
on Davis Road and another on Harney Road. Both of those are Hillsburg County roadways and the county will review the access management as part of the final site plan review. Just to give you a context for the area, uh to the north is the existing shopping
center we just discussed. To the south is also a commercial use. Uh beyond that it's warehouse distribution. The Amazon u distribution center and to the west of Amazon is also an industrial project. Um to the west is undeveloped. It's an area
uh that was annexed recently and actually is ongoing for resoning and to the north of that to the west also is existing hospital. In terms of the future land use in your comprehensive plan, uh to the north of
the site is community mixuse 12. To the south of the site is Hillsburg County, but it's also community mixuse 12 in their comprehensive plan. To the east of the site is research corporate park and to the west of the site is community mixuse 12.
In terms of the adjacent existing zoning, uh to the north of the site is actually the PD itself, um which has commercial use. To the south of the site is commercial general, um that's in Hillsbor County. This is a small area there. And then beyond that, to the east
is plan development that includes warehouse distribution, which again is Amazon. Uh to the west is uh commercial. Uh there's an existing ongoing uh development there that we're reviewing for plan development as well that you'll be seeing soon.
In terms of the building elevations, this is what the building will look like to the south is a typical commercial industrial type building. The north elevation is depicted in this slide
and the east and west elevations are depicted uh in the next slide. In terms of the planning commission review, uh the planning commission found this consistent uh with the comprehensive plan. In terms of the staff findings, uh staff
reviewed this. We feel the proposal is compatible with the existing planned industrial commercial uses in the area. Uh the proposal as noted before is consistent with the comprehensive plan. Council will also have a chance to review the final plan which is also undergoing review. But if this is
approved at a future date, the council will have another chance to review the final site plan. Staff recommendations uh for approval um with the conditions that are provided for in your agenda. And also we're recommending scheduling the second
reading on May 5th of 2026. I'm available for questions if you have any and also the applicant uh is available if you have any questions of the applicant. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Moretta. Are there members of the public who wish to comment on this?
>> Seeing none, uh does the applicant wish to make a statement? It's up to you. You're welcome to if you'd like, sir. Good evening. >> Good evening. Um JD Alabar Siko Engineering 8370 West Hillsboro Avenue sweet 205 Tampa Florida 33615
I'm the agent um uh presenting the owner and um I have with me of course the owner if we have any question for him and this is just FYI this is u not development more than his own business
he trying to move it to the to the location and of course expand it if need expand it with a second building as needed. So we are ready here to answer any question. >> Very good. Okay. Council members, any questions for city staff or the applicant? Council member,
>> just one one quick question. You say the owner will expand his business. What type of business are we talking? >> He he has some kind of crafting, carpenting, you know, in fact the family is not only him, him and the wife and relatives. So
it's like family business. and of course add more and try to expand. >> Thank you, Council Member Kravage. >> Yeah, thank you. This is directed to Mr. Mora. Um the Hillsboro County vision study is ongoing at the moment. Uh I took part in a Zoom on that about a week
and a half ago. Uh and uh that might be a an opportunity to situate some of the issues regarding traffic in this corridor. Um I u I agree with the constituent who came up earlier and uh made a public comment on that. There's
Amazon now a large uh industrial light industrial development going in here as well as the police fire complex I believe not too far away. Uh so this is going to be an area that's subject to high traffic intensity. Uh and I I want to make sure and this is the question to
you. Are we coordinating with the county in the way that we ought to in order to mitigate all that? Yes, we're coordinating with the county and we've also coordinated with the county specifically on this project. Um I can I can get into a little bit of that if you like, but uh they're going to be part of
the review. Um there is a u there are a number of improvements primarily focused on um Davis Road. Um and I've spoken with them. They're going to be part of the final site plan review that's ongoing and they'll require certain improvements. I can list them if you'd
like. Um, but they're going to be requiring certain improvements. Um, particularly along Davis Road, relocating sidewalks, uh, connecting the sidewalks, um, some improvements to the curb on both sides. Um, and I'm likely there'll
be another development coming in, and I'm assuming they're going to require the same over there. >> I don't I don't need you to go through a list at the moment, but if it would be possible to maybe circulate an email at some point with a couple of updates regarding those efforts, I'd appreciate that very much. Thank you. circulate it to city council.
>> Sure. >> Um >> or whoever would like to circulate it, but as long as we get the information in some way. >> I would just note, I mean, you'll see the entire uh piece when it comes back at final site planner review, including
what Hillsbor County has their detailed analysis. So, you'll get another shot to look at at that point. Certainly. Um I'll do uh I can funnel anything that I need through uh city manager and go from there. I >> think these the reason I'm asking is not
just capricciousness. It's because Harney Road, Davis Road, all of those areas in the eastern part of the city are in an extremely precarious uh situation traffic-wise. So they're all subject to intense uh use. They all have overlapping jurisdictions. And so that
is something that I've been keeping an eye on and I'd really like to to just know how all of that plays together, how it how it all links and what the plan is going forward to try and get that under control, especially if we're ever going to consider annexing additional properties in the eastern part of uh
Temple Terrace. We're going to have to be extremely aware of all these traffic patterns because it's going to become a problem even more so than it already is for many people. So, I don't I don't know what update you'd like to provide or at some point or if anyone would like to provide an update, but I feel like
this is a high is a high level issue that we should be just keeping an eye on as city council. That's just my personal opinion. >> This this is yes, this is a reasonzoning. Um I can tell you that if this is approved and it gets into final site development, it's not going to just be Hillsboro County. They're going to have to go through Temple Terrace, do a
concurrency review. They're going to have to pay mobility fees as part of that. Um right now in Hillsboro County, they're being reviewed. Um, and the likely improvements are going to be a reconstruction of existing sidewalk. Um, addition of a two pay two- foot pave shoulders, uh, drainage, uh,
improvements, and there's also a design exception, uh, which is looking at the width of the road along there, and there may be potential improvements that are required there. will know more when the final site plan comes in because Hilford County will have completed their review. But in addition to that, they'll still
have to go through a concurrency review uh with your engineering staff and pay mobility fees. So all that works together to try to offset um whatever you know traffic impacts may be generated by this um and to help mitigate them. >> Thanks. Keep us posted. >> Thank you.
>> I yield. >> Any other question? >> Other questions, Vice Mayor? >> Thank you. I'm sorry I didn't pick up on it in the presentation. What is different if what would be different if this zone could be put in now with the zoning approved that could be if it wasn't
changed. So, what's the difference >> when when Temple Terrace That's a good question, Councilman. When Temple Terrace annexed this, uh there were two zoning districts, two plan development zoning districts that were um one was on parcel
three and the other plan development was on parcel one, two, and four. Parcel three right now has an approximate 30,000 square foot um uh self- storage facility and that's a
subject area we're talking about. It wasn't clear reading through the conditions that were adopted several years ago because after the property was annexed, Temple Terrace reszoned it and Temple Terrace picked up the zoning conditions for lots one, two, and four
and said you have 110,000 square feet. And then there was a a vague reference to um lot three can be developed pursuant to the Hillsburg County development option uh if they do a plan. So without understanding clearly what that
meant, we weren't sure if it was the 110 conditions or if the if the intent was to pick up the uh 30,000 square foot storage facility. We assume it was. So, I can tell you that based on an
assumption, if this were to go away, there would likely be a discussion about whether or not the storage facility could go there or not, and we'd have to go back and try to piece the zoning conditions that were done several years ago. So, it's not absolutely clear. Um, but that's the best answer I can give
you given the, you know, what we have uh left before us. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you. Sorry, I couldn't give you a better answer. I think I understand less than I did before you asked the question. >> It's it's complicated. It is, but at the end of the day, it was two zoning
districts. Temple Terrace annexed it, reszoned it, tried to put them back together, but didn't really acknowledge what was on this parcel, but they clearly acknowledge what was on the other parcels. It's not clear if that acknowledgement of the other parcels is limiting and encompassing the entire
both PDs because Temple Terrace sort of put them back together. But we think that lot three likely has its own zoning. Um but it's not absolutely clear. At any rate, if this goes through and gets reszoned, it will be absolutely clear what's allowed on that lot. >> I think there's other questions. >> Yes, I do.
>> Council member Fernandez. >> So I So one, I just want to make sure that what we're saying is that with the current zoning on this property, we're not sure if it's including the conditions that were applied to lots,
two, and four. one, two, and four will have their own zoning conditions, >> right? But we're what we're saying right now is that we aren't sure about the zoning conditions being applied to lot three. So that's why we're going through
a process of resoning so that we know exactly what should be allowed to be there. >> Well, we're going through the process of reszoning because the applicants proposing to change the use. And as part of changing the use, they're proposing to change well, they're addressing the
square footage and the use all at once. So it's going to be absolutely clear if this exits with an approval. If the question when we started was what happens if it doesn't get approved. If it doesn't get approved, then it would revert back to what the existing zoning is now in Temple Terrace. It appears
that there's a um self storage facility there um approximately 30,000 ft. I can't remember exactly how much, but it's roughly the same as what they're proposing now, but they're changing the use because they're adding in the light industrial and a couple of other uses.
So, the use isn't exactly the same, and that's why they have to reszone. Um, but that's what's driving the reszoning, not any ambiguity. >> Okay. So with regard to the current zoning planned development versus light industrial, what types of businesses are
allowed in light industrial that would not be allowed in in the PD zoning? Right now what's proposed by condition lighten industries with rated office and showrooms which include manufacturing,
processing and assembly fabrication, packaging, storage and distribution. So that would allow somebody to have a business that makes things um package them, store them and distribute them. So it would allow you know the the
manufacturing and processing and also the distribution of it. Um, also specifically noted in the conditions is printing, blueprinting, engraving and related reproductive processes, war warehouse and wholesale distribution included related showrooms and offices,
commercial recreation indoor and indoor sign painting activity and those uses are taken directly from the land development code um and have been put in here. The LI district itself permits a very broad range of use.
These are the only uses that are being proposed in the plan development. So what we did was we took the LI standards which have performance standards that regulate noise, vibration and all those types of things in a light industrial operation and it it imposes that on the
zoning and then we're using the also the screening and buffering in the district. So we're using that as the development standards, but we're regulating the uses to a very small set of what's allowed in light industrial. >> Okay. So then um I noticed that lot
three is master retention for the entire parcel. >> Correct. >> Okay. So how will that work? And that's not necessarily a factor of the resoning. Correct. That would only be a factor of the development itself. Lots
one, two, three, and four in the retention area are platted. And as part of the platting, Hillsbor County did that and their easements in place and the and and the zoning, the reasonzoning will not affect that. And in fact, there's a zoning condition because when
our engineering staff looked at that, there's a zoning condition that requires prior final site plan approval. the storm water retention pond may require inspection and certification is determined by the Southwest Florida Water Management District. So, our
engineering team is going to work with them. We believe at this point it's all okay, but just to make absolutely sure that will be relooked at um pursuant to that condition um as part of the final site plan review. >> Okay. But that's not anything related to this decision tonight which is strictly
based on the reasonzoning. This will only change the use. Um the the the retention area and everything will have to function as it was designed. Um and it's going to have to function pursuant to the easements. And all those pieces were put in place by the platting that was done in Hillsboro County.
>> Okay. And then based on staff's recommendation, staff does consider this resoning and what would be allowed to be if the resoning goes forward, the the uses are compatible with the neighbors and the
area that it would be placed. >> We think so. Uh to the northwest of the site is an existing uh commercial shopping center. When you look down to the south, immediately to the south, there's an existing small um I think it's a a market. Um beyond that to the
south is is Amazon. If you go west of Amazon, there's a there's an open industrial use. Um just north of Hornney, uh moving west away from Amazon is existing uh warehouse distribution.
Um, and then we have some vacant area there that uh I can't speak to it now because it's it's an ongoing resoning. Um, but we have vacant area there that's also ripe for redevelopment and it has CMU12. CMU12 is basically planned for this type of development. So, you're
going to see more and more of it in any comprehensive plan category in in in in the city that is located with this category on it. Um and south of there um there's also uh a broader industrial area on the plan. So it seems to fit
with the overall um emergence in in in Temple Terrace in the southeast portion of the city of warehouse and industrial and basically job producing type uses. Mhm. >> And then I just have one more question
and that is just to clarify um I too am very concerned about the traffic and the the road um the ability to handle the traffic in that area. But just for just to clarify um the reasonzoning that we
are considering tonight, there is no traffic implication at this time. It's simply about what could be built on this property or the use that this property could have. >> We're considering the use that the property can have. In this case is it's
it's a little complicated because Hillsboro County is the road authority. So Hillsburg County is going to essentially deal with that mitigation in terms of whatever improvements they require at the access points for access management. So we're not really in that loop. um that's going to be Hillsburg
County, but we have been coordinate coordinating with them and they haven't indicated any objection to this or or any concern about um the type of use or the trip generation that's associated with it. So to the best of our knowledge and the best information that we have from them, um the answer is that we feel
that you know right now that it's it's it's appropriate. >> Thank you. >> Again, you'll see it at at final site plan. >> Other questions, council members? Okay, if there are no further questions, I will close the public hearing and ask the clerk to read the title of the
ordinance. An ordinance of the city of Temple Terrace, Florida, reszoning a partial parcel totaling 3.9 acres plus or minus Folio's 38210.76 from PD to PD that is generally located
on the north side of Horny Road approximately 245 ft east of the intersection of Hornney Road and Davis Road providing for amendment of the official zoning atlas map of the city, providing for severability, providing
for correction of typographical errors, repealing all ordinances or parts of ordinance in conflict here with providing for an effective date. >> Thank you, Madame Clerk. Uh, councel, is there a motion? >> Move to approve an ordinance on first reading resoning property the north side
of Harney Road, RZP25-01, and schedule a second public hearing and second reading of for May 5th, 2026. Second >> motion second. Comments discussion of the motion. >> If not, all those in favor say I. >> I.
>> I. Opposed? No. Nays. Ordinance is adopted on first reading and will appear for second reading and public hearing on Tuesday, May 5th, 2026. >> Thank you. Look forward to seeing you on May 5th. >> Thank you, Mr. Morida. Next is a first public hearing and first reading of an
ordinance amending the capital improvements section objectives and policy CPA-25-01. I'll open the public hearing and Katrina Corkran from the planning commission has been waiting patiently to present. Good evening. >> Good evening. Katrina Corkran, planning
commission staff. Um I believe my PowerPoint should be up. Okay. Yeah. So I'll be presenting capital improvement section policies 1.1.1 and 1.1.3. Um, this is uh there's also a proposed policy addition which is 1.1.10.
Um, also as noted in your packet, there was a memo. There was a procedural error with the hearing. So, you may remember this from a few months ago. Um, so we're bringing this back up tonight for your consideration. Uh, some background on this request. This is a publicly initiated text amendment. It removes outdated language
and it has a policy addition to the capital improvements section. This is a request to remove language related to the 15-year multimmoal transportation program, the annual LOS report, and the concurrency management report. This next slide shows the
strikethrough and the underline of the uh proposed policy changes. Again, you can see the changes to policy 1.1.1 and 1.1.3. The reasoning behind this is that uh for this update is that these requirements are no longer mandated uh by state statute. Um, so this brings us in line
in compliance with current state statutes. We also have the proposed policy addition, which is uh capital improvements policy 1.1.10, which uh allows the city to continue um a 15-year multimotal transportation program to support long-range uh planning um in
coordination with regional partners. So that is still in there and we coordinated with uh Temple Terrace staff on that. In terms of agency comments, the planning commission received comments from Hillsboro County Departments and Hillsboro County Public Schools. They had no objections to this amendment. Uh
we also coordinated closely with Temple Terrace staff as you can see from the policy edition which is 1.1.10. In terms of consistency, the proposed request is consistent with the uh capital improvement section policies that you see listed here on this slide. Uh these policies refer to the process
of updating the capital improvement section um in terms of addressing infrastructure needs, maintaining service levels, and planning for future growth. Uh finally, planning the planning commission found TTCPA 251 consistent with the goals, objectives, and policies
of the Temple Terrace Comprehensive Plan. Um this concludes my presentation. I'm happy to answer any questions that you may have. And this item is for your consideration for transmitt to the state. Thank you. >> Thank you, Miss Corkron. Are there members of the public who wish to comment on this item? Seeing none,
council member questions? >> No. >> Okay. If there are no questions, I'll close the public hearing and ask the clerk to read the title. Are we doing an ordinance or a resolution? Because I've got both here. >> An ordinance. >> An ordinance. Okay. I will ask the clerk
to read the title of the ordinance, please. >> An ordinance of the city of Temple Terrace, Florida, amending the imagined 2040 Temple Terrace comprehensive plan capital improvement section objectives and policy. Providing severability,
providing for correction or typographical errors, repealing all ordinances or parts of ordinances in conflict here with, providing for codification, providing for an effective date. >> Thank you, Madame Clerk. Council, is there a motion? Move to approve first
public hearing and first reading of an ordinance amending the capital improvements section objectives and policy CPA-25-01 and the second hearing hearing and reading will be May 5th. No. >> June.
>> June 2nd. >> June 2nd. >> Okay. I don't have that piece of paper. >> Second. >> Okay. June 2nd was >> June 2nd. Yes. >> Okay. Very good. Is there discussion of the council member Kravitz? >> I just have a question for um city
manager. Um, when it comes to the CIP, this is part of this reform here, and I I'd like to know um how how do things get included in the CIP in this 5-year projection? Because one thing that I saw missing was any
cost for PAS remediation? We do know that that is coming. Uh, and I'm I'm just curious under what criteria some of the stuff gets put in or not put in. >> Sure, Mayor Council. So, this is based off the the capital program that was approved last year. Um, and the
five-year the five-year program. Um, so when we go through the budget this year, we'll be talking about PAS remediation. We're actually going to talk about that a little later this evening. They had as part of my council city manager report. So, when when the new program gets updated, every year they have to go through this process. In this case, they
because of the state statute changing, they had to make this particular amendment. This is a little bit of anomaly, but typically every year they come to you uh in the early part of the year and they have to adopt the fact that they they're recognizing the new CIP. So this is every single year there's just a recurrence. We keep
updating the CIP depending on the what's going on in the community. >> So it will be updated to include that. Is that >> Yes. So when we go through the new CIP there there will be this year I would imagine that there will be references to the water plant infrastructure that
we're doing there. um as well if it if it includes the water utility. >> Yeah. And um the assignment of priorities uh so for example priority one essential versus priority three uh you know important is that um is is that
part of this uh stat ordinance as well? Is it is there some sort of statutory guidance about what gets what uh critical value versus important value or any any sort of statutory standard that's applied to these CIP
improvements? >> Well, what what they're determining tonight is they're they're amending the language to reflect the statute. >> Yeah. I'm just wondering if we might need to revisit some of that because some of the prioritizations were a
little surprising to me when I looked into this as well. When this came across my desk for the agenda, I started digging around in the CIP and informing myself about it. So, for example, the generator at Lightfoot was marked priority three for important, but the carpet replacement at the family rec center was priority one, which was
imperative. I feel like those might be reversed. I was just curious if there was anything in there that was kind of like governing these priority assignments. What what I can do, council members, I can look into that with the staff and report back because at this point I don't I don't know all the details of how the priorities were relying.
>> I'd like to see both of those things get done, but I still think the generator might be a higher priority than the carpet. >> That's all. Okay, I yield. >> Council member for new news. Um, I just want to possibly answer Council Member Kravit's question and that is this
particular CIP that's listed is based on our budget conversations last year. So I I think I at least what I remember about the conversation about those two items in particular was that they felt like they could they could actually we do need to replace the generator, but they
felt like they could get more time out of it. >> Okay. So that's I mean that's what I remember from that conversation, but I do know that we'll be changing it every single year and if our priority changes during the year, we can amend it as well. We don't have to wait.
>> Council Spice Chambers, >> sorry, I've got to make the comment. The light foot generator issue will be taken care of on our next item. >> Yeah, I know. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Other questions? Okay, there are no other questions.
I will I'm sorry. >> Got a motion. >> Well, did we do the we didn't do the reading of the ordinance yet. So, close the public hearing and ask the clerk to read the title of ordinance. >> I think >> Am I on the last one? >> I think we're at the vote. >> We were discussing. >> We did that. We had a motion. Yeah. I'm
sorry. I've got >> Okay. All right. All those in favor say I. I. I. Opposed. No. Motion ordinance is adopted on first reading and will appear for a second reading and public hearing on Tuesday, June the 2nd, 2026.
Next is a resolution authorizing the expenditure of $88,488 for the purchase of a Blueestar Power Systems 100KW natural gas generator from Mid Florida Diesel. And our public works director, Jason Warrenfelds, is here to explain. Good evening. Good evening,
mayor, council members. This generator was included in the fiscal year 26 budget with an allocation of $80,000. The total cost for uh this unit will be $88,488 and that is due to additional equipment
costs. Uh the additional funding for this will come out of the CIT funds. Uh the current unit has had its share of difficulties particularly in gray skies when we've had to sudden shift operations and not use the life foot facility. Um, so with the approval of this resolution, we will execute the uh
purchase order and then replace the generator as it becomes available. So I'll stand for any questions. >> Thank you, Mr. Warrenfeld. Are there members of the public who wish to comment on this? Seeing none, council members questions? No questions. Is there a motion? >> Yes. Uh move to approve the resolution
authorizing the expenditure of $888,488 for the purchase of a Blue Star Power Systems 1,00 kilowatt natural gas generator from Mid Florida Diesel. >> Seconded motion and a second. Any
discussion of the motion? If not, all those in favor say I. >> I opposed. Nays. Thank you, Mr. Warrenfeld. Next is a resolution approving a piggyback agreement with Stantech Consulting Services for a water and sewer revenue sufficiency and bond
feasibility analysis or basically a rate study. Um, city manager bea is going to present. I think there's amendment to this from the agenda item. I think if you I'll let you explain. Okay. >> Again, uh, good evening mayor and
councel. So uh this item is to address a one of the requirements if we do go out for a revenue bond to finance the uh PAS and water plant improvements. If we do pursue that a rate study is required uh
and a bond feasibility analysis is also part of this. That's also a requirement. This this contract is a piggyback contract uh based on an original contract with the town of Palm Bay uh with Stantech Consulting. Uh we've used Stantech in the past. They've done good
work for us. This would be a contract not to exceed $55,040. The uh and they if approved tonight, they would start work immediately. Uh we are trying to get this moving as quickly as possible time for the um proposal or the presentation, excuse me, to the
council on May 19th as well as the town hall on May 26 and obviously the to work it into the budget if that's council's direction. Um what you were distributed uh is an amended uh agreement that when this was put on the agenda the existing contract with the town of Palm Bay only
ran through mid July of this year and they were working on a an extension but they didn't have it just ready just yet when we put this on the agenda on Thursday afternoon. They have since approved that with the town of Palm Bay for another year through uh 2027 uh which will work for us. gives us the flexibility that we need and hence the
reason you've got the amended uh agreement before you this evening, but everything else stays the same with what was presented. >> Thank you, Mr. Be. Are there members of the public who wish to comment on this item? >> Seeing none, council members, questions? Council member Kravitz,
>> do you have one? I'm sorry for bringing this up again because I know that multiple town halls and other public engagement events on PAS were promised, but this is another major milestone that we're about to pass and we still have not brought the public in to include them in the process uh through a town
hall virtual or otherwise. And so I want to ask what is the status on that and is there any possibility of having a town hall of some sort before we put this in front of um uh before we move forward with this next step here.
We've, as I've mentioned to council the last, I believe two council meetings, uh I've recommend that we schedule a town hall for May 26th. And then I'm planning to have CHA here to present the findings of the report uh on May 19th. And on the May 26th town hall, we were going to
simultaneously broadcast that virtually as well. Um, so the answer to your other question is if we need to do the rate setting, get that going as quickly as possible because that's an important step. >> Whether you do the revenue bond or not, ultimately that's going to be your call.
But this is prerequisite of of doing that. It takes it's going to take several weeks if not longer to get that work done. I want ideally have that information so that when we present to you on May 19th or hopefully by the latest May 26 for the town hall we'd be
able to talk about impacts to rates potentially from any of the scenarios funding scenarios. So that's why this is a critical step to get that done. >> Just to clarify on May 26th there will be a town hall for PA. >> That is what I've I've expressed twice before the council. >> What time will that be?
>> I believe it's six o'clock and we'll have that. Yeah. And is there going to be any sort of virtual possibility for people who can't make it there in person to attend? >> Yes, sir. Just as I mentioned just now, we're going to simultaneously broadcast it virtually. >> And is that on YouTube or what? >> It'll be via Zoom. >> Via Zoom. And then people will be able
to access a link and they'll be able to make comments. >> Yes. Okay. >> Absolutely. >> That's good. I'm happy to hear all that. Thank you. That's great news. Okay. >> Questions. Council member Fernandez. >> So, I have a I have a question for you.
if you can you explain just a little bit about the process so that um and the reason I'm asking is because I know there's a lot of confusion about governmental accounting and why we can offer a general obligation bond for a
public safety complex and this is obviously a critical issue for the community but they cannot be funded from the same funding models. they have to be separate because one is a utility enterprise fund and one is a general fund. So can you just explain a little
bit about the rate study process and why it has to be done? >> Sure. So the the rate studies necessary to issue revenue bond. A revenue bond is a bond is used very commonly in enterprise funds. Some CRA sometimes will use it against TIFF dollars etc. So when you have a dedicated revenue stream
that is that is regular and coming through then you can use a revenue bond to basically use the use that revenue stream as collateral for that for that bond. So you take out the loan and you pay it back using that revenue stream. The rate study is critical to that because you have to give assurances to
future bond holders that there will be in fact enough collateral to secure those payments going forward through throughout the term of the bond. Whether it be a 30-year bond or 20-year bond or whatever it is. We haven't gotten to that level of detail yet with this, but the rates is the essential first step to
make sure that we can get to that point and be able to provide that that financing. Um, and there's different ways to structure the financing for a revenue bond. um our financial adviser working together with if you approve this tonight with Stantech are going to
be able to give us some suggestions most likely as to ways to do that to uh better or mitigate the impact on on the rate uh throughout the course of the of the term. So those are all the considerations that are part of this study. >> So
so two I have two other questions. one is uh we have no idea how the PAS issue would be remediated. So we really don't know what that cost would be. How do they do this analysis? Do we have do
they just maybe have an industry standard that they look at? >> So they're going to be working with our engineering team on where we some initial costs that we are we we've kind of come to an understanding on right now. um when we get to you from May 19th,
we're going to have the final cost, the final estimate of cost as well as hopefully the rate study piece tied into that so you can get a full comprehensive picture. At least that's our goal. This is a very short time frame for that to happen, >> but u we're going to try our best to hit that deadline.
>> Okay. So, that was my my final question was about when you thought we would be discussing this or they'd have their analysis complete, >> right? And so on May 19th, just to clarify, so we are not going to be asking council to take any sort of
action on May 19th except obviously listen to the proposal. The proposal I keep saying that the presentation uh ask questions obviously accept the report. Uh that would be it. And then the town hall will be an opportunity if the council, you know, says we're going to do the town hall to um provide the
community some feedback, an opportunity to have direct questions and answers. uh when we get through the the budget cycle, the budget process, then we'll be incorporating those recommendations uh and bringing those back to you as part of that whole budget package.
>> Okay, that's it. >> Okay, council members, other questions? If there are no other questions, is there a motion >> to adopt a resolution approving a piggyback agreement with Stantech Consulting Services for a not to exceed amount of $55,040
in uh for a water and sewer revenue sufficiency and bond feasibility analysis? >> Second. >> Motion in a second. Discussion of the motion. >> Not all those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed? No. Resolution is adopted.
Thank you. Any carryover council business from previous meetings or issues to discuss? Any old business? All right. How about new business or board reports? Council member Kravitz.
Question for the city manager. I've had a request from BPAC to put an presentation from BPAC on the agenda in two weeks. Could you see to it that that's done, please? >> Yes. Yes. The only reason I was pausing is I'm I was just making sure I had the right meeting date in my mind because
I'm trying to keep May 19th pretty clear for the PAS issue, but the first meeting in May, we can we can do that. >> They plan to present something regarding um bicycle parking and new developments or something along those lines. So, should be very interesting. Thanks.
>> Okay. Any other new business or board reports? >> I do. I have one item. >> Council member Fernandez. Um, so I have a question for you about sound and I know that we have a sound ordinance that limits sound or the volume at night. Is there something in inex uh that exists
for daytime and that there is a a shopping center that has a restaurant that's been playing very loud music and it's but it's during the daytime and the residents living nearby are not enjoying the sound.
So I don't know though because it is during the daytime. I'm not really sure what we're able to do. >> Correct. So during the during the day we are limited. Um I don't I unless this sound is really really egregious. It probably wouldn't be meeting the
standard of a disturbance of the peace. Um we can look at it if you'll whether you want to provide it to me after I can get the information from you and we can have code or police or both take a take a look at the issue. >> Okay. Thank you. Sure. other new business or board reports.
Okay. City manager report. >> So, just I was going to ask for confirmation, but I think we're all clear. Uh May 26, it sounds like we're all good. That'll be the the town hall. We're going to push that out on social media and put on the website and we'll get that word out as well. Um May 19th,
we already talked about that'll be the presentation here. Uh in light of the fact that we are going to be talking about the PASS issue here on May 19th. Uh that is the night that we're having our CRA meeting. Typically that's when it would be scheduled. As if you you may
recall we had a request for proposals for several of our properties and we received a number of of submitts. So those would typically be on at the next CRA board meeting and then you could forward the ones you'd like to have for presentation at the regular council. In light of the other issue with the PAS
report, I am suggesting that you take a vote perhaps and move the CR meeting to the first meeting in June to June 2nd. I think that would give you a lot more time um and keep that May 19th window, you know, a lot more open. >> Do we need a motion on that?
>> We would because we're changing the official meeting. So, we would need Yes. >> A motion to move the CRA meeting schedule for May 19th to June 2nd. Second motion. Second discussion. >> I have a question. >> Okay. >> If we're talking about that there are
proposals for that property and um that we would be considering them at the May 19th. I mean are are those businesses willing to wait two weeks? >> Yes, they are. They are. They're within
the parameters. Uh there was one that submitted has a date that's a little bit earlier, but we've been in communication with them through the broker. We don't think that's going to be an issue. >> Okay. >> Okay. If there any other discussion if not all those in favor say I. >> I.
>> I. Opposed? Nays. Date is moved from May 19th to June 2nd for the CRA. >> And the last item I have this evening is just more of information uh to put on your calendar. So per the council rules when there is an election or referendum
and it falls on a council night uh we need to move the meeting to the Monday preceding that date. So August 18th is a Tuesday that'll be the primary. That's also a council meeting night. So we're going to have to move the council meeting to Monday, August 17th. So just
want you all to be aware of that. >> We would need a motion for that. >> Actually rules automatically move it. Uh the >> Oh, we don't need to do anything then. It's just a calendar change that. >> So, it's >> I mean, you're more than welcome to make a motion on if you want to.
>> Well, it's moved by operation of the rules anyway, so we don't need to >> Okay, cool. Okay. >> And that's all I have. Oh, is there a question? >> Yes. Council member Kravitz. >> Um, this is regarding the new Sorry, let
me get the name right. Innovation Department of Innovation, excuse me. Uh, is the Department of Innovation going to be responsible for implementing the document management system or is that still going to be with the clerk's office? >> Good question. And I just want to clarify, it may end up being an office
of innovation. So, just don't get too hung up on the structure just yet. We're still working through that logistically, but uh, it would definitely be one of the items that we would we would look to do because it's a citywide process. It's running with systems. We want to make sure that everything uh, integrates the
right way and is done properly. So yes, that would one of be one of the things that would fall within that the purview of that group. >> I'm really happy to see Angela Torres taking that on and taking on a broader role and I look forward to seeing what is innovated. Um and uh that's all from me for now.
>> Okay. Other questions for Mr. Beu? >> City attorney's report. >> Nothing tonight. >> If I may. >> Yes. M >> city attorney. Um, as we now move into the phase where discussion of the GO bond is under more strict legal
requirements, I was surprised to see that the city made a representation about the GO bond to the Democratic Club. So, I don't know what was discussed there and I don't really want to get into it in great detail. I'm leading into a related but different topic on that. If we are going to be
engaged in public outreach, I think it would be maybe wise for us to engage outside counsel to brief us on what the limits are of our speech on the geo bond. So I don't I think that is a nuanced and very specialist topic. And so perhaps we should have a workshop or
something along those lines. >> We did we had >> we had bond council come. Yes. But not specifically about where the line is about what is allowed to be said and what is not. >> Yeah, he did. He did a presentation. It was a discussion in general terms about the bond, the issuance, the financing of
the bond. Uh we did not have a discussion in great detail. Maybe we talked about it for two or three minutes, but it was very cursory about what the limits are about what we we can say and what we can publicly represent on this. So I'm I'm just curious if that is of any concern to you as city
attorney and whether you think it might be advisable to look into that in some more detail and maybe get a professional to come and talk about it for more than you know a few minutes. Maybe we do half an hour or an hour. >> I can certainly talk to bond council and see if they're, you know, if they can schedule a time
>> microphone at the time. So, sorry. I can talk with our bond council and see if they're available and would be able to schedule that. If that's the uh request of the of the council, I would look for a motion to do that if we were going to do that.
because you know we've I remember when I was put on a a board for the first time and we had extensive two or three hour training about the sunshine law and then there were subsequent trainings about the sunshine law as well once I was elected. So, a great deal of uh time was spent training people in that. And I I
just feel like considering that we might jeopardize the success of the bond, that we might get ourselves in trouble if we cross a line and say something. Also, perhaps for city staff's benefit, if they're going to engage with the public on this in social media and other channels, that it might be wise to spend an actual budget of time rather than
just having it come up as an incidental question in uh in a session about the bond where we were primarily dealing with other topics. again. Yeah, I have I have no problem reaching out. I think it should be a motion by council to, you know, add that to one of their calendars.
>> You don't think there's any legal risk on this topic as city attorney given what we've been trained on so far? >> You asking it, is there always a concern if people are out there talking to the people? If >> you guys are out there speaking to the public and you maybe cross the line from going from education to endorsement,
sure, there's a concern on that. And that's why I'm saying if you would like to have a workshop on that, I uh will certainly talk to the bond council. >> My question was a little more specific. I was saying, do you as city attorney think that everyone here has been sufficiently trained by that brief
comment and discussion that we may have had with bond council on this matter? Do you think we have been sufficiently trained? I think that the that it had been addressed, but I am very open to um providing more education to the city
council. >> Do you think it was sufficient? >> Yes, I do think you had sufficient education on it, but I'm like I said, I I'll be more than happy to ask bond counsel to come in if you would like a workshop. >> I just
>> I would like that, but I'm not going to be the one to make the motion. Council member Shisler, >> I um I I how I phrase this my take away from the all the
discussions we had had through here on this whole subject was that there was a point certain the date certain where the it shifted from how we could discuss the uh um the city the the council and police could discuss it bring from in
from endorsing it toformational And I thought we crossed that line tonight with the approval of the ref of the referendum language. >> Mayor, >> yes. >> So, um, and I we we have some information. I believe there was some printed material that we distributed to the council several months ago about the
same issue which you can or can't say and I'll I'll look for that again and if I find it, I'll distribute it. Um, my Yeah, you're correct. It almost So, when we posted the for the first reading, that was the the date. >> Okay. Um, and what we can't do is we
can't, for example, um, spend taxpayer dollars to send out mailers, for example. We can't do that. We can't spend taxpayer dollars after that posting, you know, to do boosting ads and things like that. Put ads in the P. We can't we can't do that. We can provide the presentation the facts. We
can we can do that. Uh, individually, we can express opinions. Council members, you're allowed to express your opinion on the on the issue if you'd like. Um, but it's really trying to, you know, not to send materials, not to campaign in essence, not to, you know, do do things like that where you're putting up where the city's putting up, you know, lawn
signs, things like that, like vote yes, we can't. That's something we can't do. Now, other groups, if they want to people in the community and they want to support it, they can. As far as the the Democratic club, just for clarification, we we have offered and I'll make it very public here. there's anybody watching us tonight and they have an organization
that they belong to an HOA, a local club, etc. We are more than happy that Chief Kemp, Chief Stale, and myself to come out and present this, make the same presentation we've made now eight or nine times. Um, yes, was Democratic club last week, but we've also met with the
Junior Women's Club, the women's club, the garden club. Uh, we're going to meet with the Rotary, we're going to meet with the Republican club. So, we are we're not we're very uh multipartisan, if you will. We're open to any party, any any stripe. Our purpose is really to inform our residents as as much as we
can. >> Well, the the reason of my comment was I I I would agree with what the city attorney has offered that he feels that he agree I agree with him that we we've had sufficient training, maybe release that maybe re-release that um document that you shared with us uh to make sure
that we're all on the same page, but uh I think that that's sufficient at this point. Well, >> with the dos and don'ts. >> No, no, I'm sorry. I'm done. >> Council, I have concerns. I remember the presentation and I remember it being
very specific. He talked about the expenditure of tax funds to try to guide people to vote one way or the other. We're not allowed to spend tax money to try to influence people to support it or not to have supported. I remember him talking about elected officials are not subject to that. We can say whatever we
want. We're not restricted, but staff is because it's spending tax money to make the presentations. We can't do mailers. We can only explain, we can't advocate. I mean, I remember him standing there
and all that. However, um we have at least one council member who is saying that he doesn't I don't know if he was missing part of it. I don't know. Maybe it was a meeting. He wasn't. No, you said you were here. So, but regardless of whether
we've had it or not, we have at least one council member who's now said he doesn't know it. And so, I think we point of personal privilege. I didn't say I don't know it. I said that we received about six hours of training on sunshine law and I feel like this general obligation referendum is also a
very nuanced and detailed legal topic which it is and we have not received comparable training even though what we do now going forward will determine whether the bond is at risk or not. That is what I said. So please do not mischaracterize me as having said that I do not understand.
>> I'm sorry. I was trying to get you the training that you asked for. >> You're welcome to make a motion and I'll vote for it. Not. Now that you know it, the rest of us already knew it. >> I don't think we need to educate the staff. They've been doing this and they know. >> Is there a reason why you're taking almost everything I say tonight and
twisting it around >> because what I said is I understand that it's a complicated topic and I was paying attention when we were trained, but we were not trained for six hours. We got a lot of training about sunshine. We got maybe 20 minutes of training about this. Maybe if it was even that
much that we talked about that because so many other topics came up during that workshop with bond counsel and it was not a very long workshop. Okay, that's what I'm saying. So stop twisting everything I say around. The only person here is who's trying to get this topic
forward is in order for it to be clear for everyone. It's not about what I understand or don't understand. It's about looking at the objective amount of training we got for one topic, which is a very important of great importance to us and the objective amount of training we got for this. That's all I'm saying.
And I'm getting extremely exhausted from having to deal with all the little nitpicking, personal needling attacks tonight. And I'd like for it to stop. And again, I made a motion a long time ago that we should all have coffee together to try and hash some of this out. It still hasn't happened. I'm the only one who made myself available to have coffee and I think maybe one or two
other people up here, but it didn't happen. So, I'm happy to reiterate. I'm happy to have coffee with all of you. We can sit down, we can talk, we can work all this stuff out. I'd like for the personal attacks to stop. I'm just saying that it might be a wise decision for us to get more training on the geo bond limitations of what we can say and
that it might also be useful for staff because we're sending them out into the world to give presentations and we don't want to have anyone have any trouble. Okay? I'm just looking out for that. That's all. Okay. Thank you. >> Very good. And so if you got six hours
of training on Sunshine Law, you ought to know that us getting together to have coffee is a violation of it. >> We found a way around that and we discussed it previously. It came up. It was discussed. It was cleared with the city attorney that it was going to be done as a workshop. There are so this comment is a perfect example of the kind
of needling that I just said should not happen and I'd like for it to stop. I'd like for us to be productive. I'd like for us to focus on moving the city forward and doing the stuff that we need to do in order to have a real strategic vision for Temple Terrace. I'm not up here trying to look good. I'm just here
trying to make sure that it all goes smoothly. And if anyone out there from the staff or you or anyone else goes out and says the wrong thing about this bond and crosses a line into advocating for it, there's going to be an issue. And it's not just about word choice. It's
also about presentation and manner and all those other things. And it's a very nuanced legal topic, as I've repeatedly said, as almost all of these legal topics are. Dismiss it if you want. I'm not looking for a fight. If you don't want to have the workshop, don't have the workshop. If you don't want to have
coffee with me, don't have coffee with me. I don't care. I'm just trying to do the best job up here that I can so that this city has a good future. That's it. Okay. >> Okay. >> I have a question for the city. >> Yes, Council Member Fernandez. Um, so my
understanding is that as a city council person, when I am out and people are asking me questions, I'm allowed to say, I think you should vote for this, or I think you shouldn't, or I can voice an opinion one way or the other. It's the
staff because they're paid by tax dollars, which would be using tax dollars to advocate one way or another. But if we held a workshop, the staff wouldn't be participating in that. Correct. >> And I I think I might have brought up
the word workshop and I had it as probably poor. I meant if you wanted to put it on one of your council as an item on your uh council agenda. So um and then they would they would be able to be here in the audience and listen uh during that. So, would it be possible to
have bond counsel come and just do more like a presentation at a council meeting where staff would be present? >> Yes. And that's kind of what I thought we were talking about. Anyhow, like I said, I said workshop and it was a bad word to use. Um, but again, yeah, I can
reach out to workshop if there's a motion in, you know, if the city council so moves to do so. >> Okay. So, um I I mean I'll make a motion to ask the city attorney to u schedule bond council to make a presentation at a
city council meeting to clarify and educate as to what the council is allowed to say and what city staff is allowed to present. And I would say in light of the timing
of all this, I'll see if they can is the uh May 2nd >> June >> or May. >> All right. May 5th, I'm sorry. I think it's >> whatever the >> one would that be room on that agenda. >> Uh I believe so.
>> So we can move I can ask him to make a presentation on the May 5th. >> Okay, we have a motion. Is there a second? I second it. >> I don't know. I've got a I've got it now. >> You got it. >> I'm like the kid. I've got it.
>> Okay. There's a motion and a second. Uh discussion. >> I have discussion. Can I discuss with this? >> Mhm. >> Okay. So, a question to staff. If we're going to have this workshop, do and we have do we have any u presentation
scheduled between now and the May meeting? >> Well, I'm not proposing a workshop >> proposing it. Just a presentation at council meeting. >> Okay, let me try this again. So, whatever's on the motion >> and the second are we having a is the
city presenting to any groups between now and then? >> Yes. >> Yeah. Rotary at least one. >> Okay. So, does that cause any trouble? I I have bond council has talked to staff about what we can or cannot do. We have been very thoughtful in our
presentation. We're thoughtful in our approach. I don't believe we're violating any of the standards of uh that that bond council has set up. Um however, that doesn't so I'm perfectly comfortable continuing the presentation that we've got between now and the next meeting because obviously we've done
eight or nine of these already. Um I think the conversation that the council is uh entertaining right now is a different one which is the presentation to the council and the community and that's perfectly fine. It's the will of the of the uh of the council uh to do
that on the uh first meeting in May during the regular agenda not a workshop but I believe that you >> Thank you. Any other discussion? >> Okay we have a motion and a second. All those in favor? >> I >> I opposed.
>> Okay. Motion motion carries. >> Okay. >> Back to you, mayor. >> City attorney. Any other questions for the city attorney? If not, we will stand adjourned. Heat up