hey everybody and welcome to the April 1st meeting of the Temple Terrace City Council I know it's April Fool's Day but we really are going to have a city council meeting And so I'd like to remind you to please silence your electronic devices And if you would please stand and join me in the
invocation and the pledge Lord we begin our meeting tonight in gratitude for your many blessings We ask for your guidance and wisdom as we endeavor to advance the common good of our city Please continue to bless our city its residents and businesses and
especially our professional staff who work selflessly in service to our community Amen I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation
under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all Thank you For those of you who don't often join us at our city council meetings which is most of the normal people in the world um we do have a tradition here in Temple Terrace we
started a couple years ago where we start each meeting with a fun historical or interesting fact about our city or uh or the region We've had to expand out to the region because we're running out of interesting stuff So um we rotate that
duty and tonight it falls on me And I realized this when the clerk reminded me I think Thursday of last week and I said there's no way that's going to happen And so I have asked our unofficial semi unofficial historian Marissa Robinson
who doubles as our deputy director of community development if she could pull out a fun fact and she agreed to do so So on my behalf uh Marissa Robinson is here to present a fun or interesting fact Good evening mayor and city council members So my fun fact is about the
1950s in Temple Terrace This is one of the largest growth that Temple Terrace had from 1950 to 1960 The census data shows the population increased from 433 residents to 4,752 The development boom brought on new
architects designers and the mid-century modern style One of those architects was Frank Deasqual Deasqual graduated from North Carolina State University in 1951 He was heavily influenced by Franklidd Wright First picture Maria
There we go That is Depasqual on the right and Frank Lloyd Wright is on the left He met him when he visited NC State in 1950 After graduation he worked a co at a couple of architectural and engineering firms in Durham North
Carolina Until 1959 when he moved to Tampa While he only lived in Tampa for three years he was able to complete an elementary school a few um additions to other schools and three homes Two of those homes are in Temple Terrace The
first one is the Gordon and Alita tenant house at 514 South River Hills Avenue This house you can see the heavy influence that Franklidd Wright had on Deep Pasqual The house has the heavy cantalvered uh porch that is very
Franklidd Wright Uh the second house is the Randolph and Betty Joe Jackson House at 530 South River Hills which is another beautiful example of the mid-century modern architecture Temple Terrace currently has a short list of 62 mid-century modern homes that
could have historic preservation designation based solely on their architectural style That's my fun fact That's your fun fact Thank you You're welcome See that was way better than what I would have come up with Way better So
you were you were good to pick tonight to be here So thank you very much Marissa So our first item of business is a proclamation for National Crime Victims Week And we are honored to have our Hillsbor County State Attorney uh here with us tonight Miss Susie Lopez
And Susie if you whoever you'd like to bring with you if you'd want to bring them up that's fine Mr Mayor I' I'd like to bring a familiar face to with I I believe you know Chris Jeffs Um we're honored to be here tonight Thank you Yes And for those of you who don't know uh Chris Jeffs is a Temple Terrace resident
retiree from our police department and now is a victim advocate at the State Attorney's Office And so um thank you both for being here It's it's an honor to get you here Susie So whereas Florida is a law and order state and will always provide a a voice to crime victims and
their families National Crime Victims Week uh provides the opportunity to recognize the importance of crime victim services ensure that victims have access to services and support and promote discussion on how communities organizations and professionals can work
together to reach all victims Dedicated victim service providers are working daily to meet the needs of crime victims And we commend their efforts to expand services to victims who face barriers to meaningful access to services such as isolation lack of transportation
language limitations or cultural barriers The Temple Terrace City Council wishes to commend the Hillsbor County Victim Assistance Program for providing exemplary services to victims of crime within the city of Temple Terrace and throughout Hillsboro County During National Crime Victims Week the city of
Temple Terrace renews its commitment to providing survivors of crime the support they need to heal As a community let us all work together to stop crimes before they happen and to give victims the support they need to restore a sense of trust and safety to move forward toward
healing and justice Now therefore I Andy Ross by virtue of the authority vested in me as mayor of the city of Temple Terrace Florida do hereby set aside April 6th through 12th 2025 as National Crime Victim's Rights Week So would you like to say a few words
mayor thank you very much On behalf of the entire state attorney's office and our victim's assistance program we are honored to be here As you know we have worked together for several years now My office stands with victims Um I am honored to have someone who I refer to as my honorary aunt who is here who is a
just a staunch advocate uh on behalf of Mothers Against Drunk Drivers And I am pleased that my office is going to be having our second annual victim resource fair at the University of Tampa next Wednesday night April 9th I'm sorry for the shameless plug but we want to get in
anywhere that we can Um I meet with families every week who have lost someone as a result of a crime and it is my honor to serve the people of Hillsboro County and and my office's honor to stand on behalf of victims So thank you very much for this proclamation Well you guys do a terrific job and I I go back to the day when we
didn't have victim's rights services in this county and I I I was I remember when this move began and the law enforcement community was kind of confused by what this was going to look like that was like 80 mid 80s and I'm dating myself now I know but uh you know
to see what this has developed into and grown into is tremendous and I you know it'd be nice if we have a day when we don't need you Chris for in that role um but as long as we do thank you for for heading this up so thank you thank you
That wasn't a big mystery either You were talking Sorry All right Ready one two three Thank you Next is a proclamation for National Library Week and our own Terresa Frasier is here Uh she is the director of the
library division for those of you who don't know Um and we have some members of the library board Hi Good Come on up Good to see you Thanks for being here Hi So whereas libraries have long served as trusted and treasured institutions where
people of all ages interests and backgrounds can come together and learn Libraries of all types are at the heart of their cities towns schools and campuses Libraries offer members of the community a welcoming space and opportunities to explore new passions through technology programs and
services Libraries strive to develop and maintain programs and collections that are as diverse as the populations they serve Libraries and librarians work to create an equitable society by providing free access to accurate information Libraries are a resource for all
community members regardless of race ethnicity creed ability sexual orientation gender identity socioeconomic status by offering services and educational programming that transforms the lives and strengthens communities Now therefore I Handy Ross by virtue of the authority
vested in me as mayor of the city of Temple Terrace Florida do hereby proclaim April 6th through 12th 2025 as National Library Week And would you ladies like to say a few words mr Mayor city council uh as always I'd
like to invite any of you to stop by and and take an hour shift on the front desk with us Uh if you really want to experience the library uh we'll let you know when a good time is Now if you ask someone why they think
libraries are important you're likely to get several answers but the top five we found was uh they promote literacy they provide free access to information and resources they foster community
engagement preserve history and culture and they serve as vital learning centers and community hubs I know if you've been watching the news lately um yesterday we had a bit of a shock um when we learned that the um
Institute of Museum and Library Services um laid off their staff and are talking about potential cuts We don't know what that'll mean for us in the future but we're going to do our job and we're going to do the to the best of our
ability And um we think that we'll make it through Thank you as always Um yep Last year I just give you a couple statistics which I know you love Um we had
30,818 internet users in the library We had we circulated 334,018 items This includes the physical items but also digital items Um we have
currently 60,84 library card holders that say Temple Terrace on them Um and our collection is currently at 102,99 items Wow So we're pretty busy I
guess you are And so I I'd like to also thank you and your staff I know this isn't the first time I brought it up but after Hurricane Milton um the the library staff really jumped into to gear and it was unplanned Uh of course I don't like to tell the public
that everything's planned We have this all orchestrated but the reality is um we didn't plan for this and the library jumped into to fill a need and and operated as a comfort station for gosh I don't know a week or or a long time I know that Um three days Three days Oh it
seemed like longer than that It did seem longer but you know and so you know that's not part of their normal responsibilities but you guys pivoted and took care of that for our community So we thank you for that too And the two volunteer library board members we thank you for being here and thank you for your service to the city And and James
why don't you come down with me sure All right Give a round of applause You sound surprised I am surprised All right we have to get up here for a picture So come everybody up Holly Hobby
Great Thank you Thank you And we have one more If Mr Jamie Robe is here if you'd like to approach Mr Robe is here with us tonight from the Hillsburg County Children's Board to receive a proclamation for Child Abuse
Prevention Month And this one reads "Whereas ensuring the safety health and well-being of children is fundamental to the strength and prosperity of our community and requires the collective efforts of residents educators faith-based organizations health care
professionals business civic leaders and others Uh child abuse and neglect remain critical issues that demand our attention as every child has the inherent right to grow in a secure nurturing and supportive environment that fosters their development and potential
Promoting the mental physical and emotional health of children and their families along with access to essential resources such as economic stability housing education and health care is vital to creating thriving communities The Children's Board of Hillsbor County and the City of Temple
Terrace is steadfast in its commitment to preventing child abuse and neglect through advocacy partnerships and funding of programs that strengthen families and enhance protective factors The Children's Board through its Keeping Kids Safe Partnership joins Prevent
Child Abuse Florida's Pinwheel for Prevention Hillsboro Infant Mental Health ounce of Prevention Fund of Florida Safe Kids Greater Tampa in empowering families caregivers and community members with the knowledge and tools necessary to foster healthy
children child development and prevent abuse and neglect April serves as a national call to action urging individuals and organizations to prioritize the safety of children while understanding that the mission to protect children is an all yearround
event Now therefore I Andy Ross by virtue of the authority vested in me as mayor of city of Temple Terrace Florida do hereby set aside April 2025 as child abuse prevention month And thank you Mr Ro for being here with us Would you like to say a few words thank you mayor and thank you council members Um and I'm an
honored honored to be here as a representative of the children's board uh staff and the board itself Um and uh all the kids and families that get helped with with our organization in partnership with the county and the three cities here in Hillsboro County Um
Temple Terrace plays a big role because we have a beautiful family resource center over on Valor Avenue just kind of the other side of where Applebees is And um I invite everyone in the audience or anyone can come and visit anytime Uh we
have lots of uh free programs there for children and their families Uh educational things uh play groups uh counseling uh and we have dental truck that comes through health doctors everything uh that you can think of And
it's really important to have these pro proclamations because part of it is a mindset Um there's four types of abuse that children go through It's physical emotional sexual and then neglect And unfortunately the bad news is like one
in seven kids experiences one of those things last year So it's an ongoing effort It takes all of us but having a mindset that we are going to be part of the solution is just one of the big things And just supporting each other and our families here and I live in
Temple Terrace and I've raised four kids here Deer Park Avenue Um and uh it's a great community and I know that you all have it in your heart to help with this So I I'm honored Thank you so much Thank you Mr Ro Let's give him a round of
applause I think he makes good pictures I haven't met the chief too Get on the other side We'll put Mr Ro There we go You're the center of the day Thank you
Appreciate you coming out Okay Uh next item is we have two board appointments to make Uh one is for the Hillsbor County Community Action Board Um and this vacancy has existed for quite some time and I'm really happy that we have an applicant that has
stepped up Uh we received one application from Miss Sherry Donahghue Um and if it and Miss Nonahghue sense her regrets she was had a conflict and unable to be here tonight Yes Could you describe for the public like what this
board is and what it does just may in case in the future we need to have anybody sit on maybe I can um not exactly no I can't but I do know on in general terms what it is and that is it works with uh this is a county
board that we have a representative on and this board um makes advisory uh recommendations to the board of county commissioners about where certain fundings go like uh in Temple Terrace we are the recipients of some of that funding particularly at like the
Lightfoot Center we have senior programs we have um at least one food bank uh at Corpus Christi here in the city I think we have more than one we have some are embedded in schools so this board makes recommendations about how to spend some of the funding streams that come in to
the county via the state or federal government And um these this is a group of citizens who have an aptitude for that that make advisory decisions And so this has been a vacancy like I mentioned for a while I've reached out to a few people trying to get this filled um and
had very little luck So I really appreciate Miss Mrs Donahue for stepping up to to finally fill this and just for the for the Temple Terrace residents in in attendance It's very important that particularly for these Hillsburg County boards where we have an appointed
representative it's very important that we fill those Um the county really um you know when they create these boards and they give the city a represent a seat at the table they really don't like it when that seat remains vacant So um
you know just mention that to you if you'd like to serve and keep an eye on our website because we do have vacancy We have other vacancies currently So thank you So if it's acceptable council uh is there a motion to approve the appointment of Sher Donahghue as a member of the community action board yes
Uh I move to appoint Sher Donaghhue to the Hillsboro County Community Action Board for a term April 1 2025 through April 1 2029 Second There's a motion in the second Is there discussion if not all those in favor say I I I Opposed no
Nays Thank you Mrs Donahue for your willingness to serve The next is an appointment to the municipal code enforcement board Uh there's one regular members vacancy on the MCEB Uh we have one applicant from David Reading who is a current member applying for reappoint
I don't know if Mr Reading is here I do not see him um is if council if it's acceptable I'd entertain a motion to approve the appointment of David Reading Move to approve David Reading to the
Municipal Code Enforcement Board for the term beginning April 1st 2025 to April 1st 2028 Second motion and second Is there discussion seeing none all those in favor say I I opposed No nays Thank you
very much councel Uh has everybody had an opportunity to review the minutes from our March 18th uh council meeting and if so is there a motion to approve the minutes move to approve Second Is there any corrections to the minutes adjustments if not all those in favor say I I I
Opposed no The minutes are adopted Next if persons wishing to address the council on items not listed on the agenda or items on the consent agenda there are forms in the back of the room uh for anybody who would like to address the council at this time I currently
have two requests We do have a 30 minute time limit for this section of the uh meeting which won't happen tonight since we only have two requests But um I like to say this once in a while because sometimes we do get that's only 10 people So sometimes we do get more and
if we run into the 30 minutes we postpone we end that section so that we can go on with council business and then we resume public comment at the end of the meeting I just don't like to read that only when it happens because then people think you're oh you're changing the rules or that those are the rules So
um currently have two requests to speak Uh the first one in was Mr Loe We ask that you begin by stating your name and city of residence My name is Charles Loe I live in Terrace Park And the first thing I wanted to mention is of course about the library sale Uh
we there was $1,440 made So uh the publicity does help The other thing I wanted to talk about though was the uh I wore the shirt purposely had to do my sort of participation within the uh ride with
the bike with the mayor back on March 7th I walked over there and all that and I did renew some acquaintances over with F.N over the cutter center uh that I have had in the past But mainly the thing while you all were biking that was
very interesting was my talk with that young lady who was from uh Tampa General Hospital and we were talking about healthc care was surprised Anyway um uh and it was kind of funny the beginning of the conversation about who should be
protecting whom and dealing with health care In other words I uh when I told her that I in the 8 years and 8 months that I have had Medicare and I've been eligible for Medicare I went for the use of it zero times She was shocked because
I keep myself in good physical condition I told her "Anybody that should walk that can't walk three and a half miles on a given day needs Medicare Part B more than I do because I can." And as a matter of fact on that day because I had to go over to Fowler Avenue I walked six miles rather than nearly three and a
half We also got talking into uh about other aspects of it and why it is such a mess I'll give you a couple of statistics uh to show you just how overwhelmed the health care system is In Consumer Reports I read that about half the
medical bills have errors on them And then on March 2nd just before on a radio commercial uh just before the bike uh thing there according to uh Morgan and Morgan uh there is 240,000 people that die over
medical malpractice which is many times the what you'll call it I want so we got into this a little bit and what we agreed on is that the system should be balanced and one of the thing in other words was between the rights of the people putting in the money and the rights of the
people getting you know using the health care system One uh one issue on it was about the idea of well people using the health care system I'm opposed to that strongly opposed because the system is overwhelmed and not not only that as you
can see from the statistics itself the uh the health care people can't handle even the sick people We need the health care system for the sick people and we need the younger gen younger future generations to have money when they come around when it comes to their time to retire And those things kind of concern
me Uh one other quick thought I did want to mention uh speaking of library week that I had my first uh talking house reading uh of the poem last night at the library Thank you Mr Loe The second request there's actually
two people here our friends from Florida College Academy Are you going to speak together or you each want three minutes or how's this Did you intend to speak together because I have one form So okay that's great So we have our friends from Florida College Academy here This is Amanda Olsen and Jessica Johnson Welcome
Hi Thank you so much for your time And we wanted to come on behalf of our small little school Uh we serve about 450 students right here in Temple Terrace and stay pretty quiet most of the time but we want to shout from the rooftops the accomplishments that some of our students have been working on this year
Our high school beta club competed at state competition and 25 students have earned spots to compete at nationals And our odyssey of the mind teams you want to talk about that Jessica sure We have um four teams going to state competition uh April 12th um in the structure
category and vehicle category where they have to build structures out of balsa wood My earrings are made of balsa wood And um our elementary team's holding about 265 pounds Our middle school's 580 and our high school team is approaching a,000 pounds of these little 15 gram
structures So we're extremely proud of what they're have done and um our high school team is hoping for a four pete to worlds um hoping for their fourth trip which will be in Michigan So we're really excited about that So as we look to celebrate these kids and help support them we have been hosting a community
event that has mostly been our local Florida College Academy community but we wanted to invite each of you with a complimentary ticket to come this Saturday It's on our campus in our cafeteria and we're doing pancakes and sausage and coffee and juice and it is um open to the community for $10 per
person and uh all the proceeds go towards helping our students attend those competitions We also have a silent auction going on during that and performances by those talented kids So we'd love for you to join us if you're able to and to see the community come out and support um all of our students
in the in Temple Terrace So thank you all for your time Thank you very much for being here Thank you Are there other members of the public who wish to address the council at this time okay Very good Seeing none uh our first
order of business our next order of business is a resolution approving an extension request for final site plan SPR22-05 Um Marissa Robinson our deputy director of community development is back in wearing another hat um to explain the uh
the petition All right Good evening mayor and city council members Tonight I'm going to bring before you um the site plan extension for 2205 which is 8901 Mazland Drive Staff received an extension
request on March 4th 2025 The site plan was approved on March 7th 2023 under resolution 3223 Applicant is requesting a one-year extension of time to develop the property at 8901 Mazland Drive as
previous approved without modifications Applicant advised that the delay was due to financial challenges finance challenges and interior buildout design According to the city code in the original if the original site plan is approved by city council an extension
also is subject to city council approval Here is the aerial of the property It is located at the intersection of Meland Drive and Professional Place um in the 301 Industrial Park It is currently vacant and zoned light industrial with the
future land use of industrial Here is the previously approved site plan The site plan was approved for a 38,744 square foot warehouse with four or with 49 onsite parking spaces The
extension request was reviewed by by the development review committee with no objections noted Staff is recommending approval which would allow for the owner to u move forward with the permitting phase The applicant is here tonight and thank
you and I'll stand for questions Would the applicant like to make any comments it's it's up to you It's not mandatory Okay If you ask me a question I'll answer Very good Thank you for being here tonight sir Are there members of the public who wish to comment on this item seeing none Council members questions
for staff or the applicant i see council member Fernandez So we Exactly What is the process we're the applicant is asking for an extension but if we grant this extension they can move into the
permitting process So I'm I just can you walk us through the reason an extension would be necessary at this time because to me a permitting process would that would start the beginning of construction You wouldn't need an extension site plans are good for two
years and as I said it was previously approved on Mar approved on March 7th and we received they have not started construction or the permitting phase and so on March 7th is when we uh received the extension request Okay So in order for this project to go forward as it is
approved from 2023 council will need to uh approve an extension because then the site plan would still be in effect otherwise they would need to get a new site plan review Yes Okay Good Vice Mayor Schistler just
curious Were you able to secure your financing were you able to secure your financing yes sir We're We're all Everything's ready to go Matter of fact we already submitted Sir could you I'm sorry Could you approach the podium please cuz we can hear you but nobody else can Can you say your name and we need your name Yes
please Ron Allen Okay sir Um everything's been finances are done Closing's been completed Um the uh matter of fact we just submitted all of our paperwork to the county for our permits for the building Like she said the site's been approved back before It
just took a long period of time for different finances and different things to go through and they finally got all that squared away and the interior designs done So the next phase as far as just waiting on our permit from the city for the building and but we're ready to go as far as the site work we can start
we can start tomorrow if you'd let us Congratulations Uh thank you Stop the environment out there Yes sir Thank you I just I have one more question Council member Fernandez Um so and that I just want to confirm for the people watching that this is the this is the same site
plan that was approved in 2023 There are no modifications to this site plan This is just an extension Correct Okay Thank you Okay council members Thank you Um if there are no other questions is there a motion move to approve
resolution approving extension request for final site plan SPR22-05 Second Motion is second Is there discussion of the motion if not all those in favor say I I I Opposed No nazs The extension is granted
Mr Allen thank you for your investment in Temple Terrace Next we'll move into council business And our first item is a Riverside Park design and engineering update from Halen Associates uh Joe Loretta and there several people from HAL I'll let you
guys organize your presentation So welcome Good to see you Good evening Well good evening Thanks for having us Uh can you pull up the PowerPoint present you will need to tell us when you begin talking who you are so the clerk can get your name associated with who's talking All right Um well Joe
Loretta uh our Temple Terrace office is 12478 Telecom Drive 100 I'll primarily be the only one presenting uh today Um but we'll have multiple other staff here for questions and so forth Let me see if I can move this forward All right Well
great Um so the project team with me today Laura Delane project manager uh myself Martin Stefen the senior project manager uh your staff Carl Lingerfield uh in the back and then our community involvement coordinator Nicole Miller
here So before I go too far into the presentation mayor I want to thank you for your kind of history review of the project about two months ago So because of that I don't really want to belabor much of the history of the overall project I think everybody has a pretty good understanding of that And uh I do
have overall 30 slide presentation or so forth but at the same time glad for this to be interactive If anybody has any questions or so on and so forth please don't hesitate to reach out and discuss uh through the process The the goal that we're going to be presenting today is an update of the conceptual site plan from
where we were before to where we are today We will then uh take any comments feedback that we can take today or through the next weeks or so and then come back for our final presentation of the concept to you all uh within the next month to two months Thank you Mr L I just want to clarify if council if you
would just jot your questions down rather than otherwise we'll never let Mr Loretta get through his So so we'll uh we'll make notes and then at the end we'll go back if Yeah I just I'm glad to glad to get through the whole thing as well Yep Um I'm just going to jump right
into it And uh so where where I start off we're really going to start with the survey results from the initial community meeting concept plan Um you know the first question how often do you visit the site 65% really have never
visited to just a few times per year 35% are coming to the site approximately once per month or or you know a few times per month to weekly Um how do you really plan to utilize the park the the park uh the majority of the folks were looking for exercise and trails then for
water access and then lastly it's just more gathering and picnic type opportunities The next question is there are several benefits to the Riverside Park design What are those benefits that that you're looking for a lot of it comes down to pedestrian walkability uh
and these added amenities along with really focus on environmental sensitive design You will see that we have added a few amenities to this park um that may not have been included at this time uh when the original survey was Most of those came from the original uh pedestrian master plan of downtown that
were regretfully excluded from the prior plan Um so the next next question please select your preferred amenities the riverfront boardwalk the observation tower came in uh primary focus A lot of water access a accessibility to the
water was primarily focused uh and favored but generally everybody was really in favor of a a multitude of these amenities coming to the site Many of the staff com you know many of the uh community comments really uh included that So this next slide is is a lot of
text but I'm going to spend a little bit of time on this There's a few of these that we're going to have individual um slides on as we go forward So the last two questions of the survey allow people to provide their own comments and so forth And so this is just kind of a
summarization of many of those comments Um the first one concerns on homeless and security We're going to get into that in a separate slide Existing play equipment the existing playground section Um there were some requests for potential uh surfacing reconstruction
updated surfacing maybe look at the relocation of the Angel Hope to potentially allow for a new playcape in that area Um potentially the request for more playground equipment at age 2 to 5 Um outdoor fitness was was requested
That's definitely been included within the updated pond or updated concept Um a splash pad At this point uh staff's not really looking to move forward with the splash pad concept but if that is something that that the council is truly looking for then then we can re-evaluate
Part of the reason is this is more of a neighborhood park and a splash pad will definitely become a driver to bring folks to this region more as a a regional destination Dog park was another one um it can provide some park activation and reduce homeless population uh just through that park
activation but it also provides some noise and so forth to the region There are also two other dog parks in the in the area as well Um drinking fountains were requested That's that has the opportunity to be included within the project A bat tower was kind of brought
up I'm sure uh because of your fun fact a bat tower is historical to the region Um you know at this point the the staff's not looking to include a bat tower but we can definitely consider some batous and things such as that if if that's something the council would really want to purs you know pursue
Pickle ball Pickle ball is really more of a an active sport It's not really uh appropriate for this sort of location um just given the noise that the pickle ball gameplay has been In fact it's odd but the city of Denver has actually
banned pickle ball within the city limits Um it's very kind of interesting But um bike trails So this park is not overly large It's not really one that bike trails where people are supposed to be riding bikes at fast speeds This is a great location for children to learn bikes so on and so forth We're not
prohibiting people to ride bikes through this park but it's not as though it's more of a destination of a biking you know opportunity not bike trails within the park and so forth Um restrooms there Uh we're going to also discuss that in a little bit later slide Uh lighting and
illumination making sure we're having appropriate lighting is something that will be uh further evaluated as we go through the design process But then also um and it's also something when we get into and discuss with security having views through the park at night while
also kind of minimizing that point source lighting on your neighboring uh the neighbors Public art It's definitely an opportunity that we can discuss further with the the city arts council as well as the city council if that's something that you are looking to include Um signage program kind of a
wayfinding citywide signage program was brought up Um that's really not in our scope That's definitely something that that could be included as a update to the pedestrian master plan andor um to connect this park into the downtown core and so forth Uh parking parking was
brought up We are going to be including parking We will discuss that And the water connectivity was also brought up Uh when it comes to the restroom uh so right now if you if you look at the exhibit here and you can see that outer boundary the majority of the site is
really within a 2 to 3 minute walk And so for neighborhood smaller neighborhood parks like this uh many facilities may not even have a restroom facility Now granted right now there almost isn't a restroom facility because it's never open and then that's in kind of
disrepair Uh but with that if the if the council is adamant about wanting to add an additional restroom then we can allocate some space really at the the northern northeastern corner kind of adjacent to the green lawn But in the grand scheme of things the overall site everything's accessible within a 3 to 4
minute walk And so the the reality of what we need to focus on is making the restroom usable cleaned and and you know um secure basically it comes to a traffic study uh and and so there's some traffic concerns
that were brought up and so um I think we we poorly answered the question at that time but I mean this is a a neighborhood park that's so small it's going to generate a very small volume of traffic but because of their questions and and adimate element to the questions
we ended up having our traffic folks provide us a memo that we then provided to Carl and Carlos And I mean really in the grand scheme of things if you look at the IT generation this is generating just a few trips If you if you just think of rule of thumb this site is
going to be generating less than 50 PM peak hour trips a day None of that's really requiring a traffic study This all being said you know the road uh has been considered in the past for some speeding which is a reason why there is one elevated crosswalk What we're going to be looking to do is add a second
elevated crosswalk um potentially add a mural between those two with the public arts council and then has add some pedestrian beacon signage um to allow basically a safe crosswalk ac um from one side of the park to the other So some survey results from the
homeless and security um we have met with uh with Chief Staley um in the back I think it was like March 11th or so as along with um officer Tamara Mahalopoulos I'm sure I'm getting her name wrong but um so uh we're going
to focus on a few different elements to the design and uh assuming the council is on board and and um it makes sense We're going to look at the inclusion of security cameras It's not really within any other parks but the the police
department does have the capabilities to allow for security cameras Um we're going to focus on open sight lines and landscaping to make sure that from the road it's lit up at night to a certain level that people can see through all the way through the park that allows for comfortable uh policing of it at night
time We're going to allow for call boxes um as an emergency type call box Not sure it's really necessary at a small park like this but it's something that we can con consider And then you know the opportunity for existing restroom upgrades Um I think as we get into this
this is something that we're glad to take any comments into the future Uh part of the architectural style as it exists includes some red terracotta roofing or red colored terracotta colored roofing and a little bit of a Spanish style architecture Uh it's pretty dated in certain realms but we
are showing uh maintaining some of the terracotta red roofing but turning it into a metal roofing maybe adding some brick uh veneer across the base and cleaning up the stco cleaning up the doors uh restroom fixtures inside and so forth Um but glad to take any comments
or thoughts that you all have as well as um yeah just primary focus on that One of the elements that I want to make sure I reassure is right now we're going to be coming back for an updated final concept plan So the plan in no way shape
or form is 100% complete Uh we're still open to ideas and consideration This next slide um there were some concerns on trees You know right now there's around 200 canopy trees maybe 35 palms four understory trees There's a good bit
We're really looking at removing just one 14-inch laurel oak which was deemed to be in poor health by the city arborist along with let's say four palm trees and then three golden rain trees which are uh arguable on if they're more noxious and weed type trees Um I don't
mind them but they're the city arborist is not a fan of them as well And so um that's what we're looking to remove under the current site plan we have the opportunity to install and include another 39 new trees beyond you know could be canopy flowering trees a wide
variety So at the end of the day it's my envisionment that the overall canopy for the site will be greater enhanced in the after condition than what it is today Um so this is just a sketch uh looking um looking kind of northwest into the
site uh with the grand lawn at this I guess the grand lawn kind of in the foreground the the pond um at the top right and you can see some of the boardwalks and so forth coming out into the into the river This next is a sketch from the south looking north uh more
focusing on kind of the overlook and some of the boardwalk act access and activity We've got a pretty detailed site plan I'm not going to speak on this slide right here as what we're going to do is blow up four different sections of the overall project and I'll speak in detail on those um so we can get a
little bit more into what's going on in the site plan So the first section storm uh Springdale pond storm water pond Uh one of the things I want to uh talk about was also brought up are some questions on hey can we just like make this pond look like a water retention pond more of
a clean pond and I mean the answer is yes we can But the reality is it was previously permitted um I don't know within the last 10 15 years I forget when but to be made at and and permitted to mitigate for wetlands elsewhere
wetland mitigation elsewhere it was built to become kind of a wetland and look generally as it does today Um so with that if we were to try to turn it back into a legitimate just water pond then we'd have to add additional mitigation elsewhere uh andor pay into
the fe mitigation bank to accomplish that Um so that's something that that can be done but really originally it was designed and built to look kind of the way it does What we will be doing is working with our environmental staff looking at any noxious weeds that have
grown up within kind of identifying regions of where those are and h uh creating a maintenance plan for those to be removed and replaced with the plant material similar to what was existing or what was proposed when existing got permitted Um looking at this stormwater
pond Springdale pond uh and kind of the perimeter of the overall site uh many of the many of the elements did come from the downtown pedestrian master plan which was developed and approved a year plus ago We have entry plazas at the northwest and northeast corner Uh the northwest plaza has some trellis seating
potentially swings if we can work with manufacturers to allow it overlooking the pond Um the eastern section uh of the of the overall facility includes some outdoor exercise stations We have a loop trail that kind of wraps around the entire the entire pond area with a
overlook and boardwalk on the southern side with views north along the pond The western southwestern corner is also kind of a little picnic grove as well underneath the nice beautiful tree canopy that exists today Um here uh if you can see within your uh
your screens there looking kind of around uh going from left and and back around looping around the photo at the the western the left side of your screen is looking through that um entry plaza the northwest corner of the site Picture B is looking at kind of the outdoor
fitness equipment Picture C is looking at the the picnic grove D is kind of a southern view towards that overlook or towards that uh boardwalk crossing over the existing pond And then E is actually looking north from that uh overlook or
that the that boardwalk crossing the pond north along the pond This is just an example of the outdoor fitness equipment that we're going to be looking to locate on the facility Um this is one of two or three options that exist out there but
Greenfield is uh is what we're showing and uh it's definitely utilized in many locations across the state So the existing portion of the park that exists this is um the next slide we're going to get into Um there
is definitely if if the council desires opportunities to expand some playgrounds underneath portions of the tree canopy that exist today Um and so that is something that that really hasn't been uh evaluated as of yet but can be if
that's something that uh is requested to look at further If we do want to do that we may have to remove a couple trees Um but we could also incorporate some nature-based play elements and kind of have it tie into the natural environment which would be a nice little element there Um kind of going around this
overall uh project we've got two new pedestrian crossings from east to west um from the existing park facility to what I guess we'll call the new park facility the open lawn portion And uh the the first one on the left letter H
that actual crossing has been shifted south off the road uh to avoid a nice 42-in live oak at that kind of northeastern portion of the uh kind of let's say ditch and and roadway So that way we can look to maintain that 42-in
live oak and and help within that section Um let's see here going around We have um a boardwalk that's running down the full east side of the ditch out to kind of the boardwalk along the waterfront
The boardwalk along the waterfront will allow for a kayak vendor to be able to situate out there We Carl has been working with a kayak vendor or two to discuss options for that Um and then it continues out to a fishing pier fishing
dock which there was some discussion on fishing dock some positive some negative within uh within the review In the end you're going to have a landing platform to get to a kayak launch So at minimum we wanted a little bit larger than than just um just the boardwalk itself Uh
just so you could have views and so if the fishing dock wants to be reduced then that can Um here we also include that overlook tower that's been discussed Let's see here We're adding some picnic tables around additional picnic table and another pavilion And
then there item U an updated monument sign for the park These are just some existing photos of the facility from the existing um the existing signage the existing restroom the existing playground Uh and again uh
part of the request from some was maybe enhancing the surfacing within that existing playground the angel of hope and the existing pavilion As we go on to the next slide this is showing some of the proposed enhancements Uh picture A is showing new
new signage along with kind of that uh boardwalk crossing over the ditch there Picture B is showing a little bit more enhance of that uh that boardwalk crossing over the ditch Picture C is showing what you know as we discussed earlier what could be uh the restroom
what it could look like Picture D is looking back towards the overlook and uh picture E is looking from internal to the site out towards that overlook So I guess what we're calling here is the vacant parcel uh which is the the new portion of the park Uh this
is where a lot of excitement occurs um along with really around Springdale Pond here This is really focused along around the Grand Lawn which is a 16,000 square ft approximate grand lawn oval with the pedestrian trail wrapping around We have new pavilions nothing of significant
size Um the the two on the the right side of your picture are just one bench and then the one at the bottom left of the grand lawn is just two two picnic table sizes We are including a one-way uh 20 space parking lot that can be well
well vegetated and buffered from South River Drive Um and then kind of a little bit of an entry plaza into that Grand Lawn section Beyond this let's see here What else do I want to talk about um there
underneath the tree canopy we have some sidewalks that connect And then on the western W I think that was just mislabeled but underneath the tree canopy there is areas where we could potentially include some maybe nature play on that side of the park versus the
western side It is an area that that could include some additional enhancement but it's also very nice to just be maintained passive Here we get into again some and I'm sorry for the audience that the screen's maybe not as big but um uh the the pictures the top left here this is a
view into the grand lawn through the entry plaza Uh picture B is more of a bird's eye of that Picture C is you know a look at what the new pavilion could look like fairly similar to the existing pavilions with a little bit enhancements uh we will be illuminating them at night
um to maintain light within those uh pavilions to reduce any sort of homelessness and so forth Picture D just you know maybe what it looks like underneath the tree canopy and then picture E is more of the boardwalk along the uh along the creek
One thing before I get to this uh video I want to discuss that within that grand lawn we are looking to include some enhanced turf within the grand lawn so it shows off a little bit more as a signature So hopefully this works We
shall see Here we go So this is you know south of the park kind of looking at the overlook You can see the boardwalk coming out to the floating kayak launch You can see the um the overlook tower shown conceptually here is 20 ft high When we get to the end of this video
you'll have drone footage that goes from that overlook showing kind of what existing conditions kind of look like And really there's no opportunity to see any sort of existing homes or anything of that nature because it's just fully vegetated Uh when we get into the new park here we're walking through uh and
coming up upon the grand lawn showing off a little bit of the entry plaza in the parking lot pavilion You can see that pavilion showed two picnic tables It's nothing of of significant size there
We probably should have had music to this but that's okay Now we've got some picnic tables underneath the uh underneath the tree canopy or not sorry not picnic tables just um benches and sidewalks underneath the tree canopy that then connect to the boardwalk that's running along kind of the ditch
line will vary between going over over the ditch uh and then onto onto the um just upland portion right there Looking across you can see the existing park facility existing restroom I believe we're going to cross
the park here and go to Springdale Pond You can see the the bridge crossing overlooking this pond facility right here This is one of the uh pedestrian um crosswalk connections similar to what
exists today And then what we did not show is kind of a mural between those two pedestrian crosswalks Here we have the opportunity for a picnic grove underneath the the tree canopy We will have one of those be ADA accessible and can have more if
necessary On this side this is where you know outdoor fitness equipment is located We should probably speed this up for the final presentation here for you all but it's a nice little video entry plaza We're going to come into this
northwest quadrant showing off some trellis features uh and some benching overlooking the pond Kind of a beautiful view from the northwest corner And then here this is the view from the uh from the overlook This is what existing conditions look like that
are looking back at the existing homes to the east So that's going to be the view from the overlook This is just more of the rendered view So at this point you know we we have not made any determinations on site
furnishings Wanted to show a couple options Uh more recycled plastic uh with benching uh or recycled plastic bench with metal more metal bench or or all wood Um similar situation for a picnic
table uh recycled plastic picnic table all wood or or potentially metal Uh I'm more inclined to utilizing metal and wood or metal and recycled plastic as a recommendation that I would have but glad to take any comments that you all
would like Um then we get into the boardwalk Uh and we didn't you know there's there's maybe six different options for the boardwalk surfacing and railings Uh we're going to focus kind of on three just straight treated pine um
pinewood and and so that's going to be the least cost effective or the the least costly right off the bat but then as we get into it it's going to definitely be the most maintenance over time And then what we do have is opportunities to look at um two
different options one is kind of a HDPE which is really a structural um based let's say TX material Uh so TX is a HDPE just not structural And then another option is a semiafordable hardwood Um
and this is I'm going to pass this around Uh I think this is my preferred option if if the council is open to that thought process But um basically in looking at the overall um when we get through the railings on this next slide
if we if we do go the option of the eight either the HTTP or the hardwood um on the surfacing as well as on the railings it's going to be about a $400 to $500 upcharge of the $500,000
upcharge of the overall project Um in a costing perspective And so then we also have uh fencing options um where we could have wood or metal fencing um and that you know we are going to have fencing and gates I
didn't mention that earlier but we will have a gate on the um parking lot facility Um and uh and then fencing that kind of prohibit somebody from going from the parking lot and just like driving into the park Um we will we will have that as well And then you can see different
railing options that are here Um I really kind of like the clean more modern look of the wire rope in the bottom right picture Uh but there's there's multiple different options between horizontal pickets vertical pickets or kind of the wire mesh option The wire mesh option you may think is
pretty cost- effective but that's actually one of the most expensive options as there's multiple layers of of detail that has to go into that So as we continue forward really that we're going to come back and look to have a a final council presentation
andor an updated community meeting here within the next four to six weeks depending upon the outcome of today's conversation uh look to get into the the later quarter of the later portion of the second quarter through the end of this year with developing the construction plans and then look for the
you know mid first quarter of 2026 being able to have plans available uh for staff to go out for for bidding um when times when when they're ready to go At this point I'm you know we do have for anybody in the audience the updated uh
information on the website Um Carl's contact information Um I can give you my cell phone's 9044765147 You can call or text me as well but um any questions that you guys have glad to take them right now I'm sure we have several Um so why don't I
start down here with the vice mayor we usually start down here so Okay Thank you Um good presentation Thank you very much Um I'm not sure how much of this was available back during the the uh public meetings but this would have been a a far cry uh better presentation than
than what we did get So thank you for the the improvement Uh couple real quick questions Under understory trees understory it's more flowering tree Okay Okay Um what you're talking about Springdale Pond What uh governmental
organization would control the wetland issue in that state the water management district Yeah Okay Uh um and would that now the the the uh that that comes
from the streets and overflow and then that flows out the canal into the river Yeah That's the general that's overall path of the of the water flow I haven't analyzed the actual permit plans in great detail but in general there's water that's flowing into that pond what
I believe is from the downtown portion of the area into that pond It's basically the water it's a it's a water quality facility along with a storm water volume And that's the reason why there's all that wetland species within to clean up that water before it is point source directly into the river We
know what Carl we know what we have to do in order to go up to the limit on that or is there I guess my question is can we can we do some things to it to make it look better without violating the wetland agreement or what's our what's our
options with that those those are questions that I have already began conversations with Brian McCarthy the city engineer with um his his expertise and and his department is really the driving force behind what we can and we
can't do within that pond So those conversations have already started um on how we can improve the aesthetics of that pond and still have it function in the way it was intended to and permitted to Okay Um the only other comment that I have at this point I'm sure there'll be
other questions the only other comment I have is that um in in a reaction to the comments that were made by the public and so forth I feel that this price went up quite dramatically over what we had originally talked about So uh it's it uh
uh not against it Still 100% behind the project I think it looks great Uh I like the uh the graphics of it and uh um I'll I'll defer for any of the questions if pops up Yeah council member and no questions comments later Council member
Fernandez I have a couple questions Um with regard to the walkability when we look at that space we've been looking at it as a whole from the downtown area to walk through the
what is now our retention pond but to to make it more aesthetically pleasing and then connect all of that in a cohesive fashion to the park So is that part of your design process yeah I mean I think that's really a big focus of this overall project is connecting the
pedestrian um from the downtown to the river And so uh one thing that was not really considered but I I mentioned is more of a wayfinding uh wayfinding options that really uh could be an additional task
that we're glad to handle or however but it'd be um providing wayfinding signage that would be cohesive from downtown to the park and so that way people kind of understood that pedestrian flow So that portion other than we we recognize it from a conceptual standpoint we haven't
looked at any sort of design for that sort of wayfinding signage but in reality is people are going to be able to access the the park from the north from the downtown core section And you know visually I mean you can see across
a good portion of this site and you can recognize if there is no sort of wayfinding signage you could see all the elements on the storm on the Springdale pond portion walk through that and then easily you know see across the street and so forth And so right now uh I guess
adjacent to the Springdale Pond there is a commercial development under development and it the site abuts the Springdale site Yeah Yeah Will there be an actual barrier between those or will there be
an opportunity for that commercial development i'm asking because if I were a restaurant going into that commercial development if if it gets developed to be open
onto some open space even if it's just a sight line is more appealing than looking at a fence So right now we've been discussing the potential for the development of a new wall but what you're asking for can easily be determined at this point however the council may want I mean I can fully
understand um that commercial development wanting to have use to and through the park And there's also been discussion for outdoor seating from that location Uh Carlos and the city are going to be putting out for an RFP the parcel just to the south which would be
uh for for potential acquisition which is the southwest corner of that pond as well Um and so all of this would be uh really ideally accessed and viewed from those locations So we can put up a wall uh if that's a request or we could you know we could maintain that open I think
the city manager has some input on this question too Mr Beu Thank you Mr Mayor Members of council So the the the I think that you're speaking about Enigma Yes So the the developer of Enigma has has had a request about being able to take down the wall The concern that uh
myself and the team have is that there's a parking lot basically behind It's not as if the restaurant is right up against the wall So what you would be doing if you take down that wall and you would now have headlights going into the homes there along Springdale Place that I don't think anybody really had a vision that that
would be what would be created there Um and so and also there have been as we know the that project has been somewhat of a struggle and so uh our philosophy right now is to keep the wall where it is Uh I think we could contemplate if the council so wished there might be
some openings and things like that we could consider Uh but I think that well that wall will need to be repaired and replaced but there's some attractive materials out there whether it be a wall or some type of fencing that would look more more appealing I think whatever you'd want to do you want it to be
complimentary to this investment that the the city is making So personally I mean I I don't know if the you know having a parking lot immediately adjacent and now visible onto this beautiful path that we're we're contemplating here is really in the best interest of this investment um in the
city's property to the south which is what Mr Loretta was just referencing at 8447 you know you you that's still a clean slate Like there's still some opportunities there for whatever development comes that could maybe make a more uh appropriate connection to that park space So again things to consider
but right now at this moment we are not recommending that the wall come down uh and be taken out Okay And I just have a couple more questions Um you you spoke about nature play in the newer area of
the park So what I I'm actually very in favor of that type of addition where it's interactive but not um very busily interactive Yeah I mean
I'm not talking about zip lines um or anything of that nature but it just be more uh it could be opportunities for ground level um pretty simple play materials within the grass within the turf area We can we can make it more formalized If that's something that you
would like us to look at we can we can come back with more you know more uh design or thought on that process Well I I'm I'm just wondering what you can bring in that is uh still interactive
but not not necessarily as busy as a full-on playground but also uh it is a very beautiful natural setting And what can we bring in to this setting that might be interactive
nature-wise not necessarily play Um but I so I I don't know what those options are but I think it would be very nice if there are opportunities for people to interact more whether it's even as simple as uh
following some signage to look for certain plants or or look to see if you see certain animals or or something like that Well that's one of the things I did not mention We we are preparing or planning to have some some inter well not interactive but moreformational
signage wrapping around Spring Springdale Pond that'll include things such as the um the bird life that exists within the area the wetland species um more identification of that stuff and we can bring that across where the the ditch is and talk a little bit of the
hydraology if we'd like for the region as well Um I don't know if that's fully interactive but glad to look at some ideas on what that you know what this interactive element could be Um you know I mean you I could see it's not again a playgate
but you know we could come out and and put a large you know boulder in the ground and um figure out how to make sure that it's meeting the appropriate size so that way um children could climb on it or folks could climb on it without it having a fall zone issue There's there's all sorts of things that we
could look at Um it just really wasn't originally envisioned in the scope or anything of that nature but it came up as a comment so I wanted to bring it up Okay Then I I just have one more question and that has to do with the kayak access and the potential for other
watercraft access Um so one is do we think that that kayak space is actually large enough for the potential use and then the other question is and I don't I don't know if this site is appropriate but I know that
in terms of the river itself in that area it seems very appropriate for crewing and I don't know if that's if this area would be appropriate for people to be able to access with their crew boats because it is that is
becoming a much more popular sport Yeah I mean this is not a facility that's built for um multiple people to come in and out of you know in a moment's not moments basis
So uh I would go to crewing as you know you may have multiple different groups and teams coming out and you know four to six people or or even a twoerson crew boat And it just um the the crew typical
vessel is going to be larger things such as that Here you will have a pretty decent walk from the parking lot to get down to this location um and or you'll be able to utilize the vendor and go out from there What we've done is um so the
water fluctuates and it's a little little concerning on the water fluctuation but what we've done is there is a defined canal in which the uh is going up to the ditch and that generally stays wet all the time looking at historical aerials and so forth And so
we've located a floating dock platform which in my professional opinion is appropriately sized for two three people to be able to go out there have an accessible it could be ADA accessible or just a simple pullthrough kayak launch location I don't have a problem
launching a paddle board in this location but I know many people do due to the potential threat of alligators and so forth And so I'm not envisioning anything really other than kayaks canoes or paddle boards being utilized in this location Okay I would say if crew were
to be something that um again it's a long walk So if crew were to be something that wanted to be focused the park just you know uh quarter mile half a mile to the south would be probably more appropriate for that other than the parking considerations around adjacent to the school which complicates things
down there as well Thank you Thank you Okay I have a list but some of it is not questions it's feedback So that'll be the next thing we get to because I'm sure my colleagues have some too But I do have a couple of quick questions And so you
mentioned shielding the parking lot from the road You mentioned some landscaping or some the parking lot from River Hills There's like a Yeah we've create I mean there's a there's basically room between the Becca sidewalk and the rideway and
then the rideway to the parking lot We've added a 10-ft buffer which is what I would say is typical for most commercial places Sometimes a commercial may only have a 5-ft buffer but within that 10-ft area will have trees as well as a shrub can you know shrubs to block
views to see specific I mean lower shrubs that are going to block the views of the cars the bottom portion of the cars So that's that was what I wanted to question you about And this is kind of trespassing over into a little bit of feedback but I want to talk about that
because I I know that that's aesthetically appealing but I'm not sure I'd want to talk to the chief about SEPTAD you know crime prevention through environmental design Really think you need to be able to see all the way through this without any shielding And I
know people are going to be looking at cars sometimes but I think everybody who drives down river hills needs to be able to see all the way down to the river Yeah So septed principle is really like 30 in to what is like seven to eight feet Seven feet Yeah And so in the end I
mean we can definitely maintain um I mean I I think that's smart to just have lower shrubs or native grasses section to not be blocking any views There's no um you know we're not in any way shape or form required to do certain The other
question I had is um I know this is possible Is it advisable is there a plan i'm looking at all three of you but because I know you but is there a plan to somehow secure the boardwalk at night so that people after
hours cannot access the boardwalk and go out to the canoe launch or go out on the tower go is there a plan for that because that area no matter how much we make this visible that's a long way from a na from natural surveillance So at night people could be on the tower they
could be doing anything Is there any plan yeah So I mean from my perspective uh staff is going to be working through a maintenance plan on how they're going to coordinate the locking of the restroom facilities um similar elements
to that uh could be incorporated um at the boardwalk you know so we could definitely within sections of the boardwalk maybe not the entire boardwalk because we still got east west connection but the boardwalk along the waterfront um the overlook tower I
presume though that this is going to become you know uh favorite location for many people doing a sunset uh and so forth And so I really wouldn't want to recommend shutting it down you know until at least an hour after sunset So that's a question that that's a kind of
a bit of a quandry because I agree with you that sunset But the section I mean if you tried to gate off the whole thing you just jump over the rail That's not I mean you can't can't do that But if you gated off the part where now you got to go knee deep into
the river to jump over the rail right anyway there's further discussion on that I think But that's that's my question So that's it for questions So anybody else have any other questions okay don't go far because I think we're going to
discuss some right here And if you have any further and uh very good and thank you Mr L We'll we're going to have some discussion here I'm sure So uh started down here with questions We'll start down here with comments How's that um well I think that
it's capturing a lot of what the council and the community have requested and I'd like to see um how well we can engage the community and especially the the people that live around that
space because I think it's it's critically important The other thing is I do think that while this park space is not intended to be a destination in and of itself it's still a component of space
that we hope attracts people to the area and does become active So I know I think we have to be very careful with how much activity we put in the space but other I mean as far as what
has been presented so far I I I like the concept Okay Council Member Chambers I think you had a few things I do And uh I want to start off with a brief history of Riverside Park uh since that was my project many many years ago And I say
many years ago So bear with me This may get a little long Uh we need to set the timer Yes please do Um when uh the city had the sharetses for all that area down there One of the things was a park down
there But that Riverside current Riverside Park was intended to support the condos that were built on the piece of property that we're talking about now So that was considered a neighborhood park just like we've heard tonight about a neighborhood park You know the
addition is still a neighborhood park not a destination park You hit it on there but we also want to attract people to downtown So I think that's important to know So back when the surretes happened and before the development um
the city said to me hey let's we can do this park now the condos We're sure the condos will be built So well let's do the park first and it'll be the cornerstone of the development and get it going So that was 20some years ago when this park was designed and it was
designed to support the condos there but also the homes in that neighborhood because the nearest park to them is built more and that's way So it was designed as a neighborhood park Of course it was built and then immediately we had parking and traffic issues
because a new park always attracts people So that's a brief history of that So we're adding on to that and and improving it I like all the concepts you have with the the new space uh to fix uh
Springdale Pond All that is great Will work out good and attract people down there But we just have to remember that it's still a neighborhood park we you know it's only going to have 20 spaces Um to your comment about crewing you know we've talked about crewing many
times River Hills Park is a more appropriate place but they have their place on the canal now So you know maybe a oneman shell or something you know for somebody's exercise but not as teams and stuff But anyway um I like all the the
things uh that you're planning to do uh Mr Langfeld Thank you for all that work Um that's about it other than and I know it's a me part of our goal setting but this council and future councils have to
be committed to putting the money into maintenance I was just thinking the requirement on somebody to lock the boardwalk every night you know things like that And it's just going to be a lot of different more
staff costs So that was it That's more of a dissertation So long That wasn't I don't I think you probably didn't exceed three minutes All right So let me tell you about uh
we'll talk a lot Okay Vice Mayor Yes Um again as I said before I I like the concepts They look really good Some key issues Um I do I I really like the open sight lines down to as close to the water's edge as we can I think that's critical um throughout the entire park I
think that that's very very important Um security on the boardwalk is is is a concern Um as well as using the the right material so that they don't have to spend $125,000 in the next 5 years or so to replace that because we'll all be gone
and and by that time it happens I do I do like the concept of of keeping making Springdale Pond as open as possible without having to reinvent the wheel Um to your point to your point Carl with your talks with with Brian and so forth
and um uh I'm glad I'm glad Councilman Chambers brought up the the issue of the the the neighborhood park because that takes away a lot of the main having to having to supply a plethora of restrooms down there because it is a neighborhood
park Builtmore Yeah Builtmore Um Bonnie Bray um all none of them really have any anything other than Vin River Hills Park So I think that's something to keep in mind Um I like it I think it's good I think we're on the right path and uh
looking forward to the next step Thank you Thank you Vice Mayor So I do have some notes here of feedback I'd like to know if you agree with me or not before I don't want him just taking notes because I think it's a good idea So I I
do agree with some members of the public who voice concerns about the the inadequacy of the restroom the current restroom facility and I know that it's only a three or four minute walk depending on who you are But um I think
there should be another small restroom structure built but I think on the northeast part of this park opposite from the southwest part where the current restroom facility
is Um I I think if you are using the fitness equipment or you're picnicking near the entryway to the park which is kind of near where the post office is and you need to use the restroom that's a hike I mean it you know it's
yeah if you time it it's a maybe a four-minute walk but it's I think less than convenient And um I I do think it should have another I mean we don't need a huge restroom facility but I think another one would be a good idea That's
my opinion I don't know what you think but Okay Yes And yes but you know that's well over $100,000 deal So and plus more maintenance And again if we're committed to that I'm good I I know it does add a
cost but there's also um you know I don't see this that it could be when we get closer down and you start talking about design bill cost and that kind of stuff that there's stuff that we'd like in this design that we can't afford to get right now Mhm So
there may be it's probably pretty likely that there's going to be some phasing to this because we're going to get you know estimates that are higher than the money we have I think it's important to build what we need to build to get people to
use this and activate the area even if we have to forego something else that So a question to staff can I which relates to this the staff uh and and design team uh with this idea of another set of
bathrooms down there or anything else Can it be designed and u and presented in phases all our items i I think that there there's certainly uh intelligent ways to to look at the
project and figure out what core pieces that we would incorporate into a first phase and then how we would supplement the core park elements as we move forward Um I ideally you know we build
the whole thing at once but you know the the finances may not may not add up to that But I think if if we can if we can lay the foundation and put the park on site from one end to the other and then as in future years if we
had have to add an element or you know a piece to the foundation that we've already built would would be the smart way to phase this I don't know if Yeah You know I mean all I was going to say is we could definitely um bring
utilities to a location um within phase one so that way we're not demoing something at a later time which would then allow for the easy construction of the restroom at a later time The only element that I will say the northeast corner of Springdale Pond I haven't
really evaluated that location It might not be or it may but like adjacent to the parking lot we can run sanitary gra uh sanitary sewer and water pretty close to that parking lot facility because there's utilities that I'm aware of there just on the northern corner of
Springdale Pond I don't off top my head I don't know exactly where utilities are at that location So yeah that was just an example But I do I I think we need to incorporate that even if we have to forego something else to offset the cost
of that So the next thing and and this is I I would think this would happen anyway I just want to get it on the record to make sure that it does I know you're talking about two raised crosswalks um which are very close together and
then maybe mur murals on the pavement in between which sounds cool I like that But I would want to make sure before we put two raised crosswalks that close together that our public works folks are in engaged in this conversation to make sure that that
is up You know I want I'd like to make sure we get some feedback from Mr Warren Felds and his crew over there in that before we just miss it and say "Well the council approved it." You know I'd like some dialogue with that the my opinion on the call boxes the little 911 blue
phone thing I that's 30 year old stuff I I don't see there's perfect thing we could cut cuz I don't know when the last time anybody on USF campus has used one of those things there you know that's that's perfect cutting edge 1994
technology and and um other than that yeah that's that's I don't know how you guys feel about it I I I don't know that anybody would even know what to do with that anymore that um that's just my opinion and that would save us probably not enough for a bath house but it save
us something Do you agree yes Yeah Okay The other thing and you spoke about this already so it's not really a question but the I've been down to the pond I understand how it was permitted and I understand I knew that before you said it It's a it's a mitigation pond I
understand it's a functioning storm water structure and it's there to filter the water I understand how that works But my question would be and you probably would do this anyway It sounds like you're already doing it but I I had this conversation with the city manager
when we were looking at this and that is could could the vegetation that's in there and you kind of alluded to this I It's pretty gnarly It it looks I know that's a technical term um but it looks it's accurate bad I mean
it's it's functional but it but I've also seen some of those ponds that are permitted the same way and function the same way that don't look like that They're they've got cattails or something else in them You know that serves the same purpose but looks a
little more attractive And I don't know if there's a potential to do I understand that we can't make it a water pond I get that But there are some rough nature ponds that that look pretty good that don't look so overgrown and unkempt And so that's something I'd like to
explore Um oh by the way um that's a ditch tonight because of an oversight but by the next meeting this will be Enchanted Creek or something else It will not be the ditch We will have a name for this
thing here pretty quick Um Mr Blankfield Can you speak to us a little bit about how you envision the the kayak and the canoe um vendor situation i know in the past when we were first talking about this on a
conceptual basis yet there was some discussion about you know there's even like vending machines for kayaks and so what do you envision so so just uh a week or so ago I had a meeting with a vendor that provides um not only canoe
and kayak launch rentals um or canoe and kayak rentals but paddle boards they do bikes they do all sorts of of stuff and and and it's a big firm and they do this nationwide um where we provide them with
a place to put their equipment um a a pad and I've already discussed with them this the size of the concrete pad that we would need to that we would need to install uh for them to to put their equipment in and they would come
with their racks the the firm that I was speaking with uh their their racks come in stacks of four and you can add as many stacks of four as you wanted to um in order to meet the demand that your facility may have Um I think for this
facility if we had two stacks of four uh that would be more than sufficient and we discussed with them the size of the pad that we would need to put that on and it would fit neatly kind of in in that point area where the uh the kayak launch access would be
Uh the the the the the equipment would come with each locker for lack of a better term um in the stack would include a single person kayak with a paddle and a life jacket and a life vest Uh the
entire process is cellular um and solar powered So other than putting the cage down there's no power that needs to run to it There's no phone lines that need to run to it or data connections that need to It's all completely
self-contained We are responsible for getting the pad there and once it's in place uh they they deal with the install uh there's an upfront cost to us which
basically pays for the racks um and it's a the again the term the firm that I was speaking to there is a a 5-year agreement um with a revenue split um between their firm and the city uh for
each kayak rental The upfront cost to pay for the kayak racks for the two racks for two racks of four is going to be somewhere around $30,000 And at the end of the 5-year lease um those racks are ours Um they
they stay with us the the rental firm would have a staff member or a paid employee in the area who would manage the maintenance of the kayak the paddles the life jackets anything Any damage any
theft any vandalism they pay for they handle It's all on them Um and then the process we we spoke a little bit about the process Um and it's all through an app on a phone Um where you
you you you download the app Um you unlock the the locker remove the equipment go paddling put it back It it it times how long you've been out with it and then you get charged for that time that you were out with it Again
their employee comes in and does routine maintenance and checkups on the equipment Um we spoke a little bit about how our environment my my concern with our environment is a lot of these kayak
rental kiosks are on ponds or lakes Well we're not a pond or a lake We're a river It's open on both end You can go to the river to the dam on one end or as far as you want on the other end And was that a concern to them they said "No we have these on on river type environments all over the country as well."
um they cover all the insuranceances Um they they maintain a $2 million liability insurance policy on the users of the equipment So uh it it seems like a good plan There's some upfront costs to it As far as I you know he says
you're not going to expect to pay off the the $30,000 investment on a year's worth of rentals It's going to take longer than that The revenue split I believe it was 7030 uh they get 70 we get 30 out of each uh out of each rental He says they're very popular for
sponsorships Um so if we could engage with a with a company like uh like REI and say "Hey would you like to sponsor this?" Get people introduced to the outdoors and now maybe they're going to want to go buy their own kayak from you I think I think REI would be a a tremendous company to go after and say "Hey would you like to to help sponsor
this?" I hope that kind of answered your question That did answer my question Thank you very much Can I have a followup on this yes Council Member Chambers And this facilities you could certainly bring your own kayak or canoe Yes sir Okay that's all Thanks
Okay that's all I can think of Is there anything i'm sure there'll be more in the next iteration Yeah Okay Anything else i can't I don't Nothing comes to my mind Thank you very much sir Appreciate you guys being here
Um it looks great So we'll be done by what july 1st something like that Yes Do they have enough to go back thank you very much Did Did you Yeah Yeah I think we're good Okay Okay Thank you Mr Loretta Okay Council members next item
of business is the city proposed city clerk recruitment process So as as you know the city clerk has announced her retirement and u I have met with the city manager and our HR director
primarily with our HR director and the city clerk to discuss a proposed process for um identifying a replacement And so I'd like to share that with you tonight uh for your approval your consideration your comments Um this is the what we
mutually came up with Um so step one would be uh that we we suggest we do this inhouse as opposed to uh using a recruiting firm two two primary reasons for that is one is we we know we have a
really robust HR department in the city now um that I think is extremely competent in doing executive recruiting and I don't think we you know I don't think we need an outside I think we have world-class talent already on our staff
um and two is it would besides that it would slow it down considerably because we'd have to go out for RFP to identify a recruiting firm so we would never meet the date that she's going to retire if we do that Um it's going to be tight as
it is So the HR st our HR staff will prepare and post a position for advertisement Um if you approve this they're going to be doing working on that as soon as tomorrow We've already looked at the job description and the minimum and preferred qualifications We
looked at the existing We agree it doesn't seem to be any real wholesale changes is we talked to the city clerk about the current job description Does it really fit the current day and it seems to So um we're going to pretty much run with what we have We talked about a little language clean up here
and there but nothing substantive U so they would advertise the um position Uh not just advertise it but they would there's several places that HR uses besides Indeed They go to the city clerk's association and that
would be open on April 4th the opportunity to apply The window would be April 4th to April 30th for applications Uh they will compile all the applications City council will get all of them However they will be uh grouped into three groups
uh when they're given to us They will identify who they believe are the top five candidates based on the qualifications that we put out uh they will also then the second group would be candidates that met the minimum qualifications and then the third group just for our visibility are the people
that applied but didn't meet the minimum qualifications Um that's more for transparency so that we see everybody and there's no like well did they filter somebody out or you know so we we want to be transparent with it Uh all the applications will be provided to the
city council for review um on May the 2nd That is uh right after their their deadline is April 30th At the May 6 council meeting we will discuss and determine who we believe are the the three to five finalists Uh we'll be up
to five Um it does not have to be It could be as low as three I think less than three might not be a good idea Uh would think we need to have three at least Uh following the May 6th council meeting uh city staff will coordinate the date of the interviews Uh interview
process will consist of two stages very similar to what we did when we um identified Mr Beyia Um stage one will allow the city council members to come in and conduct the one-on-one interviews with each candidate like we did for the city manager Um that will take depending
on how many um could take up to two and a half hours or as little as 90 minutes depending on how uh then we will have public interviews um that same day in the afternoon we'll bring the candidates will come back after lunch for public interviews in here um where we will do
what we did with the city manager candidates a little change having um Mr But went through the other side of that process and had some recommendations about being I think we locked you in a closet upstairs or something while we were talking to the other candidates So we're not going to do that this time
We'll be able to give the candidates a time so that when they're done in the morning they know I'm free until 2:00 or 1:30 or whatever their time is to come and they can go to lunch or they can hang out here they can go to the library or they can do whatever they want to do
They know what time to come back Uh we'll have public group council interviews in here in the afternoon Um following those interviews we will move to place the ranking of the top three candidates on the next regular council agenda or for expediency we may have to
and I think we probably will have to um opt to schedule a special meeting for this purpose And so we talked this week about I think it's very likely in order to meet the timeline that we will need to schedule a special meeting and and it will probably
be before we've conducted the interviews because our rules call for us to schedule a special meeting in a regular meeting So when that time comes um we will have that under new business or on the council agenda or something
that we need to schedule a special meeting Um once we identify the um I think that at least the top two if not the top three but hopefully we can identify okay this is our top pick but this would be our second pick and maybe
even our third pick Um then and this part is up to the council after this Another decision point is in the past um the mayor has been identified to work with our HR director to negotiate with the identified candidate the terms of
their contract and start date and salary and all that stuff Um and then it would then of course come the contract would come back for the council for approval Um and then we would make a decision to approve the contract and hire the person
So that's the proposed pathway Um it's really very similar to what we did in the past Um it's also very similar to what we did at the transportation planning organization I was tasked with leading the committee to hire the new executive director there right after we
hired Mr Be So it's kind of a hybrid of the two processes along with input from Mr Nazario So that's what I propose but this is your decision I think it works I'm I'm in favor of it Looks like a good process I'll make a motion Do we need a
motion for it or just consent consent um I don't think we need a motion Do we need a motion i don't think so I don't think so I don't think so Move forward with the process Does that that work for you yes Okay All right Next item I have for your
consideration is the relinquishment of a position on the school support committee It does not happen often but often but occasionally because of personal obligations or illnesses or things that come up um people are unable to meet
their attendance obligation on a board and um it can be for a variety of reasons who who knows And so we do have an individual on the school support committee who has not met the attendance requirements and therefore we are
looking for the council to approve um us to remove that person and and uh recruit a new a replacement So I just have a question Yes So the process is that this council would need to remove this person and then that that
opening would be advertised Correct That would be the process Yep We do need a motion for that Move to approve There you go Second Is there discussion if not all those in favor say I I
Opposed no Madame clerk if you would please see to that And on a related note with with your I'll bring this back to you for your approval but I don't want to do the work if you don't like the idea to begin with Our council rules
um are currently silent on some of this about how this is supposed to work I I would propose that I come up for your consideration at a future council meeting an addition to the council rules that we would revise and
add a section for the board I I think it would be a good idea to kind of spell out what the council liaison's role is to the boards and spell out to the boards what their role is as advisory boards or their quasi judicial boards and you know that kind of thing what
your role is as a as the lia is on and then what happens if somebody doesn't work out or what you know we have it in a little more delineated so we don't have to doesn't happen often and but it does come up periodically So if that's
okay with you I will do the work and I will not promise to you when I'm going to have it back but I will bring it back Do we have Do any of the boards have any any procedures they they do Um and the the they do and in this case um easier Yeah In in this case this what we
did here tonight was in the school support committee rules Yeah Okay I thought there was something but it should be should be fairly the rules should be really consistent across the boards and I'm not sure they are and and so yeah some of it you can't miss two
meetings some of you can't miss three meetings some of it you can't you know and then the chairpeople from the boards are often confused about their role too it's like you know am I supposed to be the one that writes them a letter is that the council liaison is the mayor some of that when you're talking I mean
it's one thing to miss so any meetings if the board meets monthly as opposed to quarterly So exactly Going to have to figure that out Exactly So anyway if you guys are okay with that I'm going to Yes work on that Okay All right Any other carryover council business i have one item Yes Council
member Fernandez Um at the previous meeting we did have people present that would like to have the city of Temple Terrace remove the fluoride additive from the water And I just wanted to give an update from that I know this council said that they
wanted to wait and see what the state did before this council takes action one way or the other Um but I do want to let you know that Plant City just recently voted to remove the fluoride from their water I believe Lakeland will be voting or if they have not already They have
already and Miami Dade also just removed the fluoride from the water and all of them at this time are following the state of Florida surgeon general's recommendation So um I my personal opinion I would like this council to
discuss it prior I don't I'm not really concerned about what the state decides since we are the governing body over this utility I you know so I I wouldn't mind having a discussion amongst I'm not saying decision tonight I'm saying
possibly schedule a time for a discussion um amongst this council where we can at least air out the pros and cons without waiting for the state But um but last at the last council meeting that was the preference that we wait for
the state to go through their process I I heard what the other council members said I wasn't here obviously but it's my preference to wait too And if we started tomorrow we couldn't act fast enough to
beat the farm bill that I mean we couldn't get it done by the time we scheduled a special meeting and then we summoned um 100 experts Yeah I mean I don't that you know we summoned I don't even know who that would be but I mean by the time we
even had this conversation or begin to have it they'll be done There's if if if this were 6 months off or something I would agree with you But this has been through committee these farm bills are racing forward The governor is sitting there with his pen waiting to sign the
thing as soon as it gets through We if we started tomorrow we couldn't beat that I will say this that if the bills pass which I'm sure they're going to I I mean this is they appear to be Yeah Yeah They're they're on the track
There's no I mean in my I say there's no way this is Tallahassee but I I mean it's highly unlikely that these bills will fail The governor is poised to sign them as soon as that Now it will likely be it will take effect July 1st when
these bills are signed by the governor into law I would be agreeable if somebody were of the mind to make the motion that we not wait till July 1st Why would we need to wait we can tell Mr Warrenville stop putting the stuff in the in the water tomorrow and then once
we use whatever water's already in the tank But I mean this has been added to water since the 1940s I don't think another 3 weeks is going to make a big difference Um I just don't see the added expense the added work and we can't get
it done by the time we wouldn't get finished before this is done anyway Well then I will agree and we can wait for the state to um I just this is what I will request If for some reason it
doesn't prevail at the state level I would like the city to discuss That's fair And if and and I know how important this issue is not only for you but there's others too And if for some reason this fails and does not get I
that that in my opinion and I can't tell the council what to do But I'll be right with you I think if if this fails if it's important to a council member it's important to all of us or it ought to be And I think it's important to you I know it is And and I think there's other
people in the community that's important to So you will have my support in that if something happens at the state level I just don't see the reason to spend the money and the the energy We're going to Yeah I mean we're going to fill pack
this room with a hundred people and there's going to be 50 over here that are citing experts that say no fluoride and there going to be 50 over here and we're going to be it's like the you know I I remember the co thing Follow the science Well whose science you got 50 doctors over here and you got 50 doctors
over here Which science do you follow and and um I I I'm not I think this is an important thing for our city to have this discussion regardless of how hard it might be But I don't think there's any reason to have it at this
point So if we get to the end of April when the session ends and nothing happened I'm with you We in my opinion yes we need to have it Okay Well that's my request Okay That and that's that's all I have we get to the end of the session they haven't approved it I'm all for the
discussion Yeah I think we have to have it We can't just not I mean everybody else is having it We need to have it Okay Other council business I have one item Yep Oh new business or Well it's new Well we're moving there next So go
ahead Okay So um for those of you who have lived in Temple Terrace a long time and maybe attended King High School or know people who did Coach Maluso has been a very longtime baseball coach I had three of my sons play baseball for
him and he was my driver's ed instructor at King Um he is officially retiring from coaching baseball and his last game is April 10th which is a Thursday night
So uh I think the game actually starts at 7 So for those of you who are connected to King High School baseball in any way I encourage you to come out and attend that game or at least come out for the beginning for all of the
pomp and circumstance surrounding his retirement Thank you for bringing that up I should have thought about that Thank you Any other council business or new business i have some new business and and I as you know I wasn't here for last
week's council meeting but I watched it and I have a question for Miss Shashon about some things that I heard that are rather disturbing to me and I I don't I I don't like where we are with this and
I don't know what the cure is or if there is a cure There were two land use matters before this council during that meeting One involved Florida College and one involved the Rollers Ranch property owned by Dr Patel In both of those land use
meetings there were comments made about an expectation of future reciprocity for our decision Florida College and that's not my word that was Council Member Kravitz's word Florida College was told prior to the
vote that this is us jumping through hoops to maintain harmonious relationship with Florida College and I hope this is based on future reciprocity That that is terrible I we do not make land use
decisions based on our expectation that we're going to get something back in the future The second one is even more egregious in my mind and that was where he asked who he thought he was speaking to Dr Pel Thank God he wasn't where he asked Mr Bagghd if he
felt morally responsible to give the city another million dollars He brought that up more than once and then prior to the vote said something to the effect of I hope the applicant ventures some future way to make the you know to
address these concerns He's he's asking the money for a million dollars to a petitioner that has to come back before this body at least two more times for approvals So what if we don't like the site plan and we disapprove it isn't a
normal person going to assume it's because they didn't give us the million dollars they were asked for so we we cannot make these comments about quidd proquo and future expectations and and so I'm very
concerned about this I'm not even sure this is legal But what is the cure for this i I fortunately that this this did not come from any other council members This was one person's opinion and
um yes quit proquo is not is not allowed in in city government and uh those were improper comments Um all we can do basically is as a council repudiate them
So okay So I I mean we can't unring the bell I guess but I'm really concerned primarily about the Rollers Ranch property that has to come before us at least two more times And I'm concerned that we
now our freedom to disapprove something that we don't like is now I mean we don't I I feel like our hands are tied now We got to approve it because we've asked for a million dollars So no certainly not I mean you
you certainly need to make your decision based on whatever evidence is presented to you So the fact that somebody made a a comment is should not sway you one way or the other I mean
and if they are for some reason denied and choose to um raise that comment and bring that as a court action we will vigorously defend against it Um and and I don't have really any concerns in that
regard because again nobody else up here said anything and it was not a decision of counsel Okay Thank you Any other new business okay Thank you Mr Beaya City manager report Thank you Mr Mayor
members of council Um several weeks ago I think it actually was in a in a council update I I communicated to the council um concerns about Ridgale Road and some of the traffic mitigation efforts that uh we had looked at and we were continuing to look at So I just want to talk a little bit about that
this evening I think we have a recommendation of of an action plan we want to put forth Um so first of all Ridgdale Road for the for the council and the community as you know is a is a very straight shot linear road It's a cut through popular cut through for drivers particularly those in the
morning heading heading south to get to the lower part of 56th Street to cross the bridge and then obviously in the evenings coming back Um but that's not what makes that corridor unique What truly makes it unique is the fact that in a very small area we have a cluster
of very important public institutions uh who attract a lot of activity particularly with children So you've got the Temple Terrace Elementary School you've got the Corpus Christi School you have the Ridgedale Sports Complex you have the first fairway of the Temple Terrace Golf and Country Club you have
Woodmont Park nearby And we all know that the majority of our outdoor events special events take place at Woodmont and on the first fairway and people in fact will park on Ridgdale and cross and there's a lot of movement going back and forth and so all of that conflates with again people driving on the street Um
uh several over the last several years we have done a number of traffic studies or speed studies I should say in that corridor Uh they've shown different things but they at times have shown that there have been excessive speeds noted We have respond to that with targeted enforcement by our our PD They've done a
great job Uh also this past year we installed new flashing beacons for the school zones We installed new signage new striping So I think that's also gone a long way Um but I I think because we're continuing to see to observe it and we have resident concerns about that
that corridor particularly with this again unique circumstance of all these public institutions that what we we've come to consensus in the leadership team is uh we'd like to propose uh and we're ready to pull the trigger on this installing uh speed humps on Rdale in
that in that area again where the public institutions are Uh these would be the rubberized speed humps like we've installed recently in Nights Branch Uh they're bolted into the asphalt so we could consider it a test if you will or pilot see how it works Um and then what
I would also recommend doing at the same time that we're installing new speed humps on Ridgale would be replacing the ones on Sunnyside So as you know I mentioned this is a cut through So the cut through on the south side of board becomes Sunnyside Historically there were speed humps there Uh they were installed several years ago they were an
original sort of prototype very low profile Yeah that much pretty much uh they don't really make much of a difference to most drivers So the new speed humps are a little bit more rigorous in terms of that the impact So we want to replace those and install new ones Uh Mr Warrenfelts uh has some
pricing I'm probably going to have to go and refresh those prices but uh if council agrees this evening we'd be ready to go He'd be looking to get new pricing and then get a purchase order issued and installed within the next several weeks Shipping Yeah it
depends on shipping Exactly So just uh need to get your blessing this evening if that's the direction we that's the direction we'd like to go I'm good with it I just had one question and you talked about your management team Fire's okay because I know that was a concern before Yep That's that's a
very good question and I've mentioned that in public here and also at the council So u I've spoken with fire chief Kemp uh a number of times He's not here this evening He couldn't be here but operations chief Merly is here in case you have specific questions But uh originally Chief Kemp had a a concern about when he was first heard about this
notion about what what it would do to impact response times and wear and tear on the vehicles because they go up in this road quite quite a lot um the more Chief Kemp and I have spoken about this and the more observations he makes and he recognizes all these challenges with all these public
institutions right there uh is I think our understanding his understanding is was they're in the safety business and they don't want to be the ones standing as an obstacle to the enhanced safety of the corridor particularly with children So he's amendable to doing it I think our understanding is again we're putting these in These are not asphalt They're
rubberized So if there's an issue we encounter later on that we could reduce them uh uh we could remove them I should say or or change where they are Um the response times you do have to go obviously slower That's the whole point of these things But if you look at our our our fire apparatus and Chief Mer I'm
sure can attest to this You go to some communities and and the fire they're flying down the roads and we don't do that here I mean we travel at pretty much the speed of uh that you'd see on a residential neighborhood So I don't think the speed concern the response is going to be that impacted Uh yes several
seconds will be lost but again I don't think that's going to be such a dramatic impact that we'd have these valid concerns that not to do it Great Thank you You're welcome Other comment yeah that was my question Also I I have one comment I want to see if my colleagues agree with this So I I think you and I
have spoken so you're not hearing anything you didn't already know But I think this is a good idea because of the nature of that road and the fact that there's several public institutions right there the ball fields the schools and that's not really a neighborhood
street I mean there are homes on it but it's more of a it's a it's a main it's a through street Yes And so because of the public institutions and the fact that it's a through street I think this is proactive for you to do this This is
good What I want to see everybody's in agreement is I I I'm a little concerned and you are too I know we've talked about this is I don't want to take away from we have a very good policy in place for neighborhood streets for neighborhoods that that when the
residents want speed humps we have a great policy that the city managers put in place and we blessed it where the neighbors petition and over half of them got to want it because you always get the you know the 50 people over here and 50 people over here they don't half of them don't want them So and then we
commission a traffic study to see if they're warranted Is there really a problem i think we need to on neighborhood streets be sure that we're adhering to our current protocol This street is is different This street is a through street We have two schools you
know the library the ball fields This is different I just want to make that distinction You guys agree with that because I don't want to start a thing where I agree with that Well you did it for my neighborhood Now you got to you know I agree with that Uh as long as we notify the the residents along this some
of I mean you don't have to go all the way to the Druid Hills on Richdale but to notify them that they're going in I think there's what five six houses maybe on the whole strip the whole stretch that that that empty out onto it
So yeah I agree We we that that would be a good approach long as we don't we're going to do it do it Just let them know that this is happening right long as we don't negate negate our policy for for other neighborhoods That's what I want to make sure So I don't want at the next meeting somebody to come up and say
"Well you now I don't have to do a survey now because you or a petition because you you know I agree it's not really a neighborhood street." Yeah Okay Does that make sense yes Yes Okay Thank you on that Um the second item I
wanted to bring to the council and the public's attention is um several months ago the the county commission and we've spoken about it here a uh storm water study Um they have the the consultant was retained I mentioned the last meeting that the consultant has reached out We have a meeting scheduled for uh I
believe it's April 22nd Uh Mr Warrenel and I to sit down with the their consultant But in the meantime we were just notified that they're going to be holding public engagement meetings uh through various high schools and other other schools in the area Um so I just want to announce the ones that are
there's several that are not in Tampa There's none in Temple Terrace but there's several that are not in Tampa I'm just going to give you the Tampa ones for the public so you have the dates and in case anyone's interested I will also ask that our public information officer put this on the website uh after the meeting So on April
15th at 6:30 there'll be a meeting uh concerning this issue at Pierce Middle School in Tampa Uh then on April 23rd at 6:00 p.m at the Carowwood Cultural Center um also obviously in Tampa or in Carowwood And then on um May 12th at
6:00 p.m uh at the UAC DC uh and then on May 15th at 5:30 p.m at the Jimmy Keel Public Library on Bears Avenue Uh and those are the ones that right now have been scheduled that we're aware of Like I said we'll put the information out there for the public
Obviously this entire county So if they're Temple Terrace residents particularly those that were impacted by by flooding I would encourage them to attend and and have their voices heard Very good And the last thing I have is uh just to invite Mr Langfeld to come up and talk
to us about student art initiative Welcome back Good evening mayor members of city council Carl Langfeld leisure services director I'm sure you've all heard of the Louv and the Guggenheim Uh rumor has it they have some nice artwork there Um but next Thursday April 10th uh
we will be hosting an art exhibition of artwork made and done by the students in our after school program at the family recreation complex This event will be from 5:30 p.m until 7:00 p.m Come early go make a baseball game make an evening
out of it So this will all be artwork done by the students in the after school program Uh the facility will be decorated to try and make it look like a nice fancy art museum for the night There will be refreshments served at the event So
please come out and uh we'll see if we can't put the Mona Lisa to shame So I hope to see you all there Thank you Mr Lol That's all you have city attorney's report I I don't have anything to report
However if I can just go back for a moment um since I was not prepared for your question before um I did mention repudiation of a comment made by any council member Um and that that can be done either by censure or by resolution
A censure is a formal public group condemnation of an individual whose actions run counter to the group's acceptable standards for individual behavior or you can do by resolution a formal expression of opinion or an
action taken by a group uh in this case the city council to express disagreement or disapproval of the statement So well that would be would that materially change anything though i mean I I'm not trying It just puts it officially on the
record that so that it would make it harder to point to that as being some sort of a reason for a future action by the council but it's not something you need
to do tonight but it's up to you Okay Thank you Anything else nothing else Fernandez Yes Um this question is is for the city attorney and that is um I know that we have a policy that
council members cannot respond on Facebook specifically um when people are are commenting about city issues or they have questions But I my question really is um school board Hillsboro County school board members and the Hillsboro
County county commissioners all they have Facebook pages and are able to engage with the public Is there a way that and the reason I ask is because um that's a format that's a lot easier for
me to engage with people and I see the comments and I can't answer them and I so what I've been I mean what I do and not that anybody calls me but I respond to the comments and say please I'm not allowed to comment on your post per our
policy but please call me to discuss but there so there are a lot of times where there's a question posed that would be a very simple answer Not I mean I I have a my personal policy I don't engage in
discussion back and forth discussion on social media because I don't I don't think it ever works out right but it would be easy to answer So how can we I mean how can those other entities have Facebook pages and is there a way that
as a council person for city of Temple Terrace that we can emulate their process i think the mayor might have No I can answer this one First of all it's not a policy It's a state law It's not city
policy It's a state law Second of all um I do know cities I know mayors and and other cities where the city hosts a Facebook page for each of the elected officials Most of the cities I know maybe not all of them but most of the
cities have like seat one seat two seat three So it's a little that Facebook goes with that seat right right It can be done We could conceivably do that here where the city hosts a council member Fernandez Facebook profile and
each of us would have your own official city Facebook page If you want to spend the money to do that that that's it's very expensive because there's all kinds of you know you got to do the records retention you've got to do the moderation or the
not moderation that's the wrong term Somebody's got to look at this So how how are the BOCC in the school board are they doing that yeah Yeah It's a It's a hosted just like your email account here his official city email account You
don't have to worry about saving stuff because it's doing it Yes And so it's the same thing if you had a social media account It It's not difficult to do but it's expensive on staff's part It's not
expensive like to get Facebook It's not but it takes a lot of work on the staff part Um because I know Coral Springs mayor down there's a buddy of mine and they they do it And in fact I think they gave a presentation at conference I was
at about how they did how they do it I It's doable It's just there's going to be a budgetary impact of doing that Um but I mean it is something that could be done if you guys want to do it It's just do you want to spend the money to do it well I think it may be something that
I'm not asking to do that right now Obviously I don't know the monetary impact but I think it's something that we probably need to look at because more and more people are communicating through a social media platform than other formats
And especially not to age ourselves but as the as the population gets younger they are much more apt to take to social media versus other formats And while this was a small town and has been and
you're working concession at the baseball field and people come up and tell you things or whatever it's it's not quite that interactive anymore I I it it gives me heartburn though as as the city attorney because if someone is
asking you your opinion and you're giving them your opinion on an issue that is going to come up in front of city council and you state that you're you state that opinion and then they turn around and go on to another council
member's Facebook page and says "Well uh council member Fernandez says this about this They've become a conduit of a of a communication that is not really in the sunshine It's only in the sunshine if it
takes place at a duly noticed public meeting So if you're going to be giving you I mean if somebody says you know asks you a question about what's some activities that are going to happen in Temple Terrace this weekend you can you know that's really
no problem You can comment on that But if you're really giving your opinion about a particular issue that's going to be on an agenda you're risking getting into a lot of problems here And and I just would
could never recommend that all the council members have their own Facebook pages and start discussing city issues that way I get so the I'll give you an example Um and I'm not asking I just want us to consider because connectivity
to the citizens is always an issue but so the example is there were comments or questions asked about the uh land use one of the land use items that we discussed at the previous meeting
and it would be a that some of the questions that were asked it would be a simple matter to just respond to answer it but it but but we don't and I didn't obviously the only thing I have ever responded to anybody's questions online
is I I would love to discuss this with you or if you have questions please contact council or staff members you know but um most people don't so I that's where I'm just I just want to look at
can the the best ways to stay accessible to the public That's it Council member Chambers Sure Okay So um I don't do a lot of Facebook but I do monitor all the city to terrace bulletin board and some of the other ones And
when I see something like you just mentioned I send a note to the city manager and I tell them you need to look at this issue and it's usually someone from our media department or someone responds to that Um that's how I do it
Okay Same here Mr Did you have You're good Okay All right Where were we you were You were still on your report are you are you done okay I'm done Council members anything else good
Anything on Art and Blanc art and Blanc Art and Blanc report on iron block It was It was excellent We had great weather We had good crowd What was interesting was unfortunately the date we had to pick was at the end of spring break So there were at least three
groups that normally come and we didn't have them but yet we still had the same number of people And uh we also I I did a little poll to the audience and a lot of first timers were there which is really good because that means we're exposing people to temple terrace and
this stuff Uh we gave away uh a lot of auction items and an award for uh the table decorations And this one group that won the award best overall uh that was Council Member Fernandez and her
team It was not me Like I like to say for the record I only did what I was told But it was it was very fun It was a It was a great night and it's nice to see that there were people that it was their
first time coming Yeah it was a lot of fun May I have one more thing sure You know we you talked a little bit about uh the procedure for the new city clerk We can fix this And I'd like to make a motion that we uh do not accept the resignation
Second Uh April Fool We're not going to let her retire huh okay So one final comment uh to our staff We we I just want you to know we really do appreciate what you do I say this periodically I hope you know it's
sincere and it's not just from me It's from the whole council I know that it can be uh rather unfun to to present to council sometimes and and uh it's can be nerve-wracking I understand But just know that we uh really appreciate what
you do Uh you are very much appreciate all the work that you do We don't we don't do anything to deliver services to our constituents here It all goes through you and so you take very good care of our city and we appreciate it and thank you So anything else all right
we're stand adjourned Heat Heat N Heat Heat N