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City Council of March 28 2025 to order um welcome everybody and this is a reminder to everyone to turn off and silence your electronic devices for the duration of the meeting if you'll is your microphone on yes on is that any
better okay all right I'm sorry um please turn your your electronic devices off of the the duration of the meeting and if you will rise with me if you can for the invocation The Pledge leads us to the flag if I can okay Heavenly Father be with us as We
Gather tonight to handle the business of our city we thank you for the many blessings you have bestow upon us each and every day and ask for your guidance on this Council on the decisions we make tonight both large and small that we will always do what is right and just we ask for your healing hand to the members
of our extended City Family who are ill and especially the arran family we ask for your grace on all the employees of the city and for the protection of our First Responders who Serve and Protect the citizens of our great City in your most holy name we pray
amen I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all thank you
okay in mayor Ross's absence I am acting mayor I'm playing mayor tonight so um if I get quiet or don't hear me just raise your hand I'll make sure I speak louder I do apologize um one of the things we do every every meeting is we do a
historic fact and that fact ISM comes to me today so my local fact for tonight deals with a brief history of the Temple Terrace Little League the Temple Terrace little league has been a Cornerstone of the local community fostering a spirit
of sportsmanship teamwork and Community engagement for decades established in the mid 80s by group of parents the first games held during the 1957 time series The League was incorporated as a 501c3 in 1960 and has operated Under the
Umbrella of the Little League International since then the games were primarily played at the rdale park across the Tela terce Goa Country Club number one green the South half of the product Pro EXC me the property is owned by the Hillsboro County School District and contains the major and the
senior Fields as well as batting cages and and concession stands and everything else thank you the um I'm sorry the north half of the property is owned by the arch dicese of um St Petersburg and currently houses
the uh t-ball fields and the miner league fields in the past the girls F fast pitched softball was also in the Middle Field and until 1994 95 time frame the fields were maintained by the by the parrots the league and so forth
the 60s 70s and 80s had significant uh growth for the league the fields during the week were operating virtually every night of the week except for Sunday Saturday was a dayong event with games running one after another until very late in the day the league had significant impact significant impact on
the countless lives of our young residents there aren't many who did not participate in Temple Terrace League here be a t-ball orange League grapefruit League Majors junior or senior and um which a senior was really
basically a feeder program for the King High School baseball program uh for the seniors and and beyond that coach Mack estimates 75 to 100 um players that went through our um the Temple Terrace little
league program went on to play at a d division one school program through a college and there were several that made it into the minors and two that made it into the professionals into the major leagues um but that'll be sub that'll be those those facts will come out at a
different meeting anyway and the league oper um uh and then we had the girls fast fast pitch uh softball the league operated under two seasons a winter instructional league and a spring competitive league this this season was
completed a school Ender for the year after which the All-Star program which led was led up to the World Series event in August Temple Terrace was hosted numerous District games and series at all levels Temple Terrace is a m a member of District 13 which covers most
of central Hillsboro County other leagues included Sulfur Springs North seol East Bay Antioch Brandon New Tampa Landa lakes and loots there have been many numerous presidents throughout the history of the league and I have reached out to some of
the past presidents we're trying to put together and work at s history covering the whole um history of the league I served in neap City from 93 to 96 part of it quite by accident much to the sugd of my wife when I came home and said I'm
now on the board um the time frame was this time frame was very troubling and TR trying for temp to the league the city had just completed the 301 uh complex with the intention of moving all Temple Terrace L leag operations out there there were issues and problems
with the fields including some field drainage and Associated flooding and the fee structures the city had been charging with the Leakes it was the League's partti participants I'm not saying it's the city's father Deion these were these were an issue the league had leases with the arch dices and the school district that required
continued maintenance at the Richdale complex as well with the city of Temple Terrace to use the 301 Fields meanwhile the league was dealing with significant internal strug structure struggles with a pony league faction that especially essentially split the league in half the
major differences were the rules of Little League versus the rules of pony including throwing of curveballs coach pitching base pass lengths Etc just to name a few at that point however Temple League Little League had over 500 participants kids that played over 42
teams in six different leagues that group of player produced dozens of high school players as well as Collegiate and several be minor league draes ultimately the temple ter the league faction faction moved back to bridgedale with pony staying at 301 it was a big
mess resulting in at a marathon council meeting on February 15 1994 where the little league endured a lengthy grilling by council members and I had the privilege of standing in that Podium there for that the minutes from that session result reflected seven pages
alone devoted to the temple terce Little League issue the result of that night was the revocation of 301 comp the lease of the the throughway complex between the city and the league relations with the city and League were were a little Frosty until we we renegotiated a new
agreement with the director at that point Kevin Dunmore and the league and the and the league for the city to take over operation and maintenance of the Ridgedale complex the city installed new irrigation systems state-ofthe-art musco Lighting systems new Turf etet the
result was a significant upgrade to the whole complex the history Temple Terrace L leag has had its Peaks and valleys but it remains resilient the latest estimates put the roster to about 175 participants at different levels it is a testament to the power of the community
in the enduring appeal of baseball from its hble Beginnings the league has touched the lives of thousands of family members and children and their families and it looks as it looks to the Future Temple terce will leag embodies the spirit of a sportsmanship and community that defines the heart of Temple Terrace
and its citizens and families thank you okay we'll move on to recognitions and proclamations first recognition as employee of the month for the month of February is Mr Frank Kendrick
here come on up come on up Kim [Music] Frank welcome Frank Kendrick is being recognized as a February employee of the February's Employee of the Month Frank was hired in December 2023 and and in
his short term with the city he has learned to operate all the equipment and vehicles used in the Public Works Sanitation division as well as learning learned the scheduling processes and day-to-day tasks that have that help the sanitation um staff operate daily Frank
is one of only two staff members in sanitation to meet the requirements for promotion of driver two position and has done so in just over a year of employment Frank goes above and beyond to ensure completion of routes and his willingness to put the best interest of the department and its staff before all
all all else is noticed often he has maintained a disposition of certain of continued learning um within the department to create better work practices and increases quality of service Frank has helped us develop a new process and shares his ideas um
processes and shares his ideas is frequently he volunteers his City events and does so with a friendly demeanor and a big smile additionally he is well respected by his peers and is a consistent reliable member of the team who gets the job done every day thank
Frank Kendrick is a great addition to the Temple Terrace team Frank is there anything you'd like to say thank you this is your chance you can tell want anybody that's good well we have we have a certificate for you I'm not able to come down if I can have the got council
members to do the photo opportunity I'd appreciate it Y come on thank you Frank you doing a great job we appreciate it and one more good thank [Applause]
you la Last Chance Frank nothing nothing you're good thank you sir okay the next on our list is a proclamation of women's history month if we could have the following sentennial celebration committee members Julia
Almeida Nancy Hudson Cheryl money Sherry Donahue Marissa Robinson and the Centennial Celebration committee liaison Corey Collins come to the podium please ladies welcome women's history month is
celebrated each march to recognize women's contributions to history this month we are honoring the amazing women who have served on the city Centennial committee who have worked diligently since 2022 to commemorate the city's 100 100y year anniversary without such a dedicated a
hardworking group of individuals the number and variety events as well as the old-fashioned sense of community would not be Pro possible from creating the city's hundred-year artwork to all the commemorative memorabilia that has been distributed to the beautiful murals that are being designed and painted to the
monthly events that have been planned to celebrate our history to the impressive timeline that was researched designed and placed on the wall of the family Recreation Center to the celebratory River Jam event that will be held on March 3rd 2025 the women on the Centennial
committee deserve recognition for the incredible work they've accomplished over the past three years thank you for making this 100-year celebration of success the proclamation is whereas the US Congress proclaimed the month of March as women's History Month of 1987
and has proclaimed the observance every year since and whereas American women of every race class and ethnic background have become historic contribution to the growth and strength of our nation in countless recorded and unrecorded ways and whereas women have played and
continue to play critical economic cultural and social roles in every sphere of Life by by con constituting a significant portion of labor labor force and whereas for centuries socioeconomic forces have challenged women's progress
however despite these obstacles America boasts a rich history of courageous women who defi the odds and whereas the city of Temple Terrace has become home to many Dynamic and great women leaders Community servants entrepreneurs and
business professionals Educators and more who have who have made their influence felt and have constructed a path uh to ensure the Temple terce Community continues to thrive therefore I Gil scheler and replace of instead of Andy Ross by virtu author vested in me
City temp terce design day March 2025 is women's history month is there anybody would like to speak toy coryy I do this is my centennial Podium Corey Collins division director of Parks and Recreation thank you um
just to clarify River Jam is may3rd what' I say March I apologize that's okay that's okay May 3rd did you notice we all Flint I didn't I was sorry about that thank you and we sound great according to that Proclamation got a great team so very
much for all that you do and if you guys come on up for a photo [Applause] up no I don't got to get right all righty you g to be a part of
that keep trying to keep Gilling that's all right side okay thank you here like you like each other I'm it oh I see okay you break the lens uh it's
kind of award okay one more I know can we take one more can we ask all the women in the room to come up yes we love the women all the women to come on come on come [Music]
on sit down all men out of the I to squeeze together come on oh press that that rightt yeah I'll try my best Brian's
here all right see here three ready the podium is going to be the way that's okay one two three one more one two three perfect thank
[Applause] you okay thank you everyone all right let moving on with the rest of the agenda um consideration of the minutes for the previous meeting if the minutes are acceptable for the March 4th 2025 meeting uh please uh entertain a motion
to approve move to approve second um all in favor with motion second all in favor please indicate by saying I I motion passes thank you very much okay persons wishing to be heard on items not listed on the agenda items on the consent
agenda we have a few um first one is Mr lob please come to the please come to the um uh uh Podium state your name and city of
residents um well my name is Charles Lo and I'm Terrace Park and the first subject I want to talk about is the friends of the library book sale I wish everybody could see this I'll just show it around it started starting on Thursday from 10:00 to
4:00 and that uh this programs all the money that they raised during the programs uh help provide for the for free programming from from the friends of the library another thing I want to talk about is my own version of women's studies month I found a book in the
library although I donated three as well called women studies Month women artist and surrealist movement it had 22 women in in from 10 countries and I donated to the Life Enrichment Center uh because I figur
that's what they do but I also got gave them three books for for resale uh another woman another woman that I was thinking about obviously over over the course of this time for women's studies month of course is my mother my
mother passed on 30 years ago uh on on the Jewish calendar yesterday and 30 years ago on the Civil calendar tomorrow my mother wasn't exactly an ordinary woman uh she she 80 years ago was fighting uh was a nurse over in World
War II she headed a a unit that won a merit citation and she herself won a bronze star among other things and I was thinking to myself that uh what would be something that would she really would like over the course of
time and that I think would really be great for an idea and I came up with one another another group of women that I was thinking about were were those two Muslim women the one that the sister that came here on March 4th and the other that I and Miss Khan who did that
artwork and I was thinking to myself of course while the men were very nice and I went over and reached out to them and you know to say I hope them they had a blessed and peaceful uh Ramadan because that's very tough and I was thinking myself GE wouldn't it be nice that on
May 3rd if we all cut cut cut together all the people from the religions from the various religions Jews Muslims all the denominations of Christians and we all cut a city birthday cake 100 years together commemorating 100 as well as people of
different races and ethnic backgrounds uh the reason is people if people really want to begin with peace peace begins in the minds and the hearts of people and within a community and if we really pray for peace which we
all do all the time it's got to begin somewhere we got to show people something a little bit different than we than we see in the present for the future thank you all good evening thank you Mr L um I was remissed uh request to address the mayor and counsel in the
back of the chambers please complete there's a form back there to give and give to the city clerk um council's agreed to a 30 minute time limit for all public comments and if if it'll be continued at the end of the meeting if we run over that 30 minut 30 minute time
frame so that we can get the rest of the the agenda taken care of um a three minute time limit will be imposed on all comments from the public and we and we ask the speakers come to the podium State their name and city of residence um and during public comment on items not in the agenda items on the consent
agenda the city managers and directors in attendance do make note of these items so you need to be sure that all comments are taken seriously and all will be followed up on okay next list
next next person is Steve cth thank you my name is Steve culberth uh 205 South Glenn arbin Avenue Temple Terrace 33617 uh at my residence I'm receiving
the excess flow of water from 505 B air to some degree from 503 B air this occurs when rainfall amounts are 4 plus Ines per hour this has continued for some 15 years I spoke to former city engineer Mr motto and more recently the
director of Public Works regarding this issue approximately 15 years ago I installed yard drains in my backyard to keep water out of our home just prior to the recent hurricanes we had a rainfall that event that approached some almost 10 in per hour that prompted me to
install a sump pump at one of the drain locations to date my expenses to keep water out of the home has been exceed $6,000 previously stated uh this excess sheet flow is from Bon a the issue I believe uh one of Bon
Air having been overlaid some 15 years ago new pavement had compromised the curb inlet there uh if you look at it it has an as asphalt Dam around it now point being the inlet should have been redesigned to a combination Inlet
amount excuse me moreover uh and secondly the driveway aprons were never modified with the overlays to prevent uh continuous flow of water into the driveways the water now Finds Its way into the driveway and
through the yard of Bonair 505 Bon Air and there therefore it comes in my backyard recently we've had rain events where my backyard is ankled Deep in water uh areas uh of there are some
serious areas concerned but the resolution to my problems I see is based upon uh my own experience the new sheet flow calculations is needed to verify the curb inlet design uh and moreover how many existing uh is the one curb
inlet good enough or do we need to look at the current code and find that we need to install more on Bon Air uh redesign the driveway aprons on 505 and 503 B air so that the water does not run into their
yards uh the Water Runs there simply because Bon a runs east and west and at that location of 503 and 505 the road takes a slight Bend therefore the water's picking up speed on the Outer Edge and it's on the south side which is
the low side of the street therefore 503 and 505 Bon a receive water from Bonair Road uh and I at this time I'd like to see that uh hopefully this is taken seriously enough that my solution that
the city sees that there's a solution to this and the city engineer sees that he can should set a new standard when overpaying overlaying pavement on existing streets in city of Temple Terrace uh storm water is extremely
critical that we review that before we design anything that has to be overlaid thank you thank you okay next speaker is mret renie Anette rny 9512 Woodland rdge
Drive I'm here to thank city council for putting the sign up and and Carl and um Carlos Bales for always answering emails politely kindly it's really appreciated the sign is up and if it saves one
animal it's due to you helping um I also want to say thank you to our police officers lately I've noticed like the old days they're patrolling the neighborhoods I'm out walking the dog and I'll see one or two and it's a good
feeling so thank you to our police chief and the police officers who are doing the patrolling thank you thank you m renie okay next speaker is Paul Hodgkins
Hopkins welcome thank you thank you for having me yes hello my name is Paul Hodgkins I am a resident of Hillsboro County I believe that your most important job is to protect your citizens from harm and
protect their rights if you believe that in a free Society we have bodily sovereignty your citizens should be able to decide what drugs they will put into their own bodies yes fluoride is classified as a drug by the
FDA as a free Society it is important that we do not set a precedent of mass medicating the public through their drinking water without their consent governor santis has explicitly stated he is against Mass medication with fluoride in our water
systems also Florida's Surgeon General Dr Joseph L excuse me Lardo urges all Florida to stop fluoridation citing 72 robust studies where fluoride was shown to decrease our
children's IQ the CDC under oath has acknowledged research linking fluide to brain damage Alzheimer's and Dementia the lanet one of the most prestigious medical journals
recommended that fluoride be classified as a developmental neurotoxin this would put fluoride in the same category as lead Mercury and arsenic Dr lpo has specifically stated
that fluoridation and public health is public health malpractice I ask you to act with an abundance of caution and vote to stop fluoride uh today from Temple Terrace's water system people should be able to choose
if they want to have fluoride or not the evidence is clear that FLC fluoridation is an outdated practice that sacrifices public health for negligible neglectable benefits is time that we prioritize safety follow surgeon general's guide
guidance and immediately halt adding this toxin to our drinking water I thank you for giving me time thank you sir next we have Kurt Christensen good even council members I'm retired lieutenant colonel KK Christensen resident here at Hillsboro
County Florida's leading way in eliminating fluide from our water supply currently 40 counties in Florida do not florid dat since the Florida Surgeon General issued guidance in November 12 more cities have rejected fluide and more communities are making informed
decisions each week thankfully we live in a state that values constitutional rights and personal freedoms in Florida individuals have constitutional right to refuse medical treatment regardless of their health condition this right to privacy is explicitely stated in Article
1 Section 23 of the Florida Constitution our state also provides vaccine exemptions yet public fluoridation offers no option to opt out Florida statute 38126 codifies the need for informed
consent just as Governor santis ended covid-19 vaccine mandates leaving the decision to the individual we should do the same with fluoride some will argue that fluoride is not a drug that is blatantly false according to the FDA fluide when used as a treatment or
prevention of disease dental disease is a drug that is subject to FDA regulations we cannot ignore the risk nor can we jus to fly fluoride used simply because it has been done for decades new research has raised serious concerns we cannot Outsource critical
thinking to bureaucratic agencies that have repeatedly failed in healthc care guidance over the past four years at the heart of this debate is bodily sovereignty should our government engage in Mass medication deciding what is best for the public administering it through
our water supply as Ronald Reagan warned the most terrifying words in English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help I knew you care deeply about your citizens you've taken oath protect them seriously the research the court rulings and state recommendations
been presented to you our only response to this course of action is end public fluoridation let's protect our babies our children and pregnant mothers Let's help prevent fluide related Health disease such as brittle bones hip fractures even Alzheimer's that comes from accumulation in the body let's end
this now thank you so much for listening thank you okay Pat meta welcome good evening Pat mcaf uh Hillsboro County I'm a nurse practitioner and my background includes working as a critical care nurse
pharmaceutical sales rep Adent professor of Nursing and after much research I am stunned that the fluoride product in our water system it's called hydrofluosilicic acid um it's classified as a drug and and a neurotoxin according to CDC yes the FDA classifies fluoride
as a drug fluoride is a medicine or a medical treatment it's not pharmaceutical grade and the FDA has never approved fluoride for the uh prevention of tooth decay also fluoride does nothing to improve the quality of water since floride is a drug then we are all your patients and City officials
are not doctors doctors should be prescribing it and monitoring it the safety data sheet for hydrofluosilicic acid ranks at highest category 4 for cute oral toxicity and it's labeled harmful if swallowed take a moment and reflect on that harmful if swallowed I
have a copy of it um all floridated toothpaste have a mandated warning warning on it call Poison Control right away if accidentally swallowed yet we are swallowing this hydrofluosilicic acid in our water and there's no warning to our citizens according to Florida's
Patient Bill of Rights statute 31.0 26 patients are required to be provided informed consent and the ability to opt out of a medical treatment if they choose why are our citizens denied these rights with fluoride citizens want Choice when it comes to medical treatments and doctors should be
involved since fluoride is a drug you are not doctors and even if you were you would never agree to a mass Force medication like fluide on our citizens knowing its toxicity the Ada May mention that fluoride is a naturally occurring mineral yes but the floralistic acid
type of fluoride in our water is not naturally curring fluoride it's a man-made molecule that eats through concrete glass and stainless steel why on Earth are we putting this in our water this acid is an industrial waste byproduct this Industrial Waste is a
neurotoxin and that can even have have contaminants such as Arsenic and Lead how disturbing is it that these industries Place their toxic Industrial Waste into our water system and we're paying them to do that if a citizen chooses to want fluoride fluoride's readily available in toothpaste
mouthwashes and by prescription I ask that you vote to remove fluoride hydr floralistic acid a known neurotoxin from our water system it is a drug it is a medical treatment it should be prescribed and monitored by a medical doctor not in our water system thank you
and I have a copy of the um water safety report C clerk thank you okay um two more Elise Curry wel I'm Elise Curry and I'm a resident of
Temple Terrace and the resolution of the Hillsboro Republican executive committee of Hillsboro County to immediately halt water fluoridation of the County's water system was passed last Thursday by a majority vote and the resolution
reads on November 22nd 2024 Florida State Surgeon General Dr Joseph l PO issued a guidance concerning Community water fluoridation recommending against Community water fluoridation due to the neuros psychiatric risk associated with
florid exposure and whereas 13 counties and cities in Florida have upheld Dr lopo's recommendation to end the water fluoridation the 26 counties are in the progress of working towards ending water
fluoridation a historic ruling by the United States District Court of the Northern District of California has ordered the US Environmental Protection Agency to take regulatory action to eliminate unreasonable risks to the
health of children posed by the practice of water fluoridation and numerous medical studies indicate that fluoride in the Water Supplies can reduce children's intelligence as well as um and the fluoridation of the water is
banned in many countries including China Austria Belgium Finland Germany Denmark Norway Sweden Netherlands Hungary and Japan fluoridation of water infringes upon a citizen's right to choose to opt out of potentially
hazardous consumption and fluoride is readily available via over-the counter or by prescription to any citizen wishing to use it so fluide is the only at in the water that is not for sanitation or sterilization so having
sodium fluoride stores and water treatment plants could potentially actually be misused by terrorists in the contaminated water supplies where they would do it to toxic levels now therefore we ask that it be resolved
that the members of the hre recognize our right to clean water and request that Hillsboro County Commissioners should direct our water management to Department to discontinue adding sodium fluoride or any other chemical synonymous with this that is intended to
provide drinking water to citizens of Hillsboro County to include but not limited to the city of Tampa Plant City and Temple Terrace we request that this be enacted immediately and on the receipt of this resolution and I ask you to proactively
vote today to uphold certain generals guidance to stop floration Temple Terrace thank you thank you uh last but not least Debbie pots good evening I'm Debbie pots and I am a former Hillsboro County teacher of
33 years and I actually began at Lewis right down the street so it's kind of homeschool here anyhow um I have spent 33 years focused on the well-being and development of children today I would like to address the concern for that to
begin with the fluoride that we are wanting to have removed is actually phosphate waste called hydrofor silic acid as well as cicc acid over 70 Studies have shown that high fluoride
exposure may be linked to lower IQs in children especially in areas with naturally high levels of fluoride in the water as a teacher I know how crucial cognitive development is and any factor that could affect a child's ability to
learn focus and succeed in school is something that should not be taken lightly moreover fluoride can accumulate in the body over time so let me ask you would you give your child anything that had a blackbox warning from the FDA well
the fluoride toothpaste tube States if more than a p size is ingested to call Poison Control immediately a recent and astounding ruling on 924 24 by a federal judge most senior judge Edward Chan found that the fluoridation of water at
7 milligrams per leader which is the level presently considered optimal in the US poses and I quote an unreasonable risk of reduced IQ in children the court found that the Ada claims of safety were in fact not not supported by evidence
and it was also noted that even more worrisome fluoride consumption is cumulative Dr lpo our Surgeon General has cited a study which found an association between exposure to the floridated water and ADHD among Children
and adolescents ages 6 to 17 for the past 5 years I have been tutoring kids ages 5 to 11 and I am personally witnessing the ADHD at much higher levels as well as significantly lower IQs the inability to problem solve
critically think and even process does it make sense to sacrifice our children's IQs possibly for perceived Dental Health by being proactive and voting to stop the fluoride today you are showing your concern for our
children's health and I appreciate you taking it into consideration thank you is there anybody else who wishes to address councel appeared to be none thank you very much we move on to there's no consent agenda then public hearings uh first public
hearing 8A is a resolution to huh point of order believe there is a consent agenda I believe it's pulled no not today it's back on these are the items that were pulled last time my apologies this this is pulled okay all right I take a motion for for the
consent agenda motion to approve the consent agenda second motion appr excuse me motion approve and second all all in all in favor please indicate by saying I I and opposed thank you motion passes
all my apologies okay uh public hearings and ordinances and resolutions resolution approving a task workk order to vanesse H hangen brusselin Inc for the brw drive storm water Improvement design project um city engineer Brian
McCarthy will explain welc Brian good evening honorable vice mayor and city council members uh I'm Brian McCarthy city engineer and tonight I'm here seeking approval to award a taskwork order to VHB for the Brentwood Drive storm water improvements so on the first figure on
the screen we have just a general location of where the project is located you have Bullard Parkway on the North side and North 56 Street on the west side and then the Hillsboro River on the east side and shaded in blue is kind of the area that we'll be talking about
today it's going to be brenwood Avenue between Pinehurst and River Hills so in this next figure is our contour map that kind of helps us understand some of the drainage patterns so I'll kind of briefly go over it uh in the black lines you'll see the um
contour lines they're 1ft intervals with u specific labeling for the elevations uh and the red lines are the storm water pipe Network system the red Stars along the hillsb river is our outfalls and then the blue arrows is where we uh are
kind of assuming the drainage patterns based upon the Contours so you kind of see as you move from left to right on the screen or from Glenn uh Glenn Arn Avenue towards River Hills to the east um the the first Blue Line kind of just shows that we're expecting um quite a
bit of flow flowing down Brent Brentwood before it hits uh Pinehurst before it starts to split amongst the the homes that you'll uh see a few pictures of here shortly so this photo is taken from Google Maps and you're looking South at the first property at 503 Brentwood
Avenue um as a point of reference the tree to the left side of the screen surrounded by the bushes is kind of what um you'll want to focus on in the video that you'll watch next also to note in this video or excuse me in this picture is the um curb and so you kind of see
that there is a it's about a a 3-in vertical height difference between the asphalt and the curb before it uh pops over and um you'll see it in the video how the storm water flows around the house so this was provided to us by the residents at 503 um again looking at the
the tree with the bushes around it as your point of reference you're looking North from the resident's home and you can see already the the water has um what you'll see near the tree is the water is already over topped the curb and is starting to flow around the house and then the resident here will kind of
pan over shortly to the right side where you'll see kind of the amount of um flow that's running through the yard uh in this next photo is the home adjacent which is 505 Brentwood Drive um and in this photo from Google Maps we're
wanting to pay attention to the driveway there's a again about a 3-in curb there against the asphalt um just to give you that height difference and in the video that you're about to see um you'll want to pay attention to the driveway so in this photo you're looking
north towards brenwood and towards the golf course and in the upper right hand corner is kind of where that driveway starts and in this video you're going to see just the amount of water flowing down this uh resident driveway and around their home so I pretty much um supports what the
Contours are showing again they're they're going through or around the houses um and so with that we decided to reach out to one of our engineering consultant groups um VHB they provided us with a scope of work that includes survey design uh construction plans bid
assistant and Construction Services the proposed design was bud budgeted in fiscal year 25 for 75,000 the proposed work will cost um approximately $76,000 6 or approximately $1,600 over our estimated budget with that said staff is
recommending that city council approve a design task for VHB um for the Brentwood Drive stormw water Improvement project I'm available for any questions thank you Mr McCarthy is there any public comment on this issue appearing to be none um any
question questions M Fernandez I would like to know if this is reflective of a change in drainage pattern I mean is this a new situation or is this been an ongoing or
is there something that has changed with our storm water drain uh system my knowledge nothing has changed um since I've been here so I believe that this is a problem that has occurred in the past okay so this
what you're requesting right now are the funds to to do the study and a a project to create the design that would then be built later that's correct okay so then this my only
concern with making sure I I want to make sure that we're doing this in a cohesive manner with the rest of our storm water plan that we don't fix something somewhere but C cause a problem somewhere else so that will be part of our design firm's um study is to
just make sure that we're aren't causing any additional problems either upstream or Downstream of their proposed work we are having um within our Five-Year Plan we do have the construction dollars budgeted within the next fiscal year assuming Council passes it or includes it in that fiscal year
26 okay I have any question just short one as assuming all goes well what time frame do you envision from today to completion of the project just sort of ballark uh we we expect design to be
completed by the end of the year um assuming construction through our bid process will occur at the beginning of 26 um depending upon their schedule like with the low bitter hopefully everything
gets completed by the end or uh late 26 good we're talking fiscal year or calendar year um that was calendar year calendar year okay and how much is in the budget or projected budget for we originally estimated
$750,000 for construction any other questions any other comments going to be none um if acceptable Council entertain a a approving a task work order to vaness
Vanessa Hagen russland Inc for the bretwood drive uh storm water Improvement design project in the amount of 70 76 76,6 move to approve the task work order to VHB for the Brentwood Drive storm water
Improvement design project second we have motion a second any comments by Council on the motion appearing to be none uh all in favor please indicate by saying I I anyone opposed motion carries thank you very much
okay item 8B um resolution approving the State financial assistance agreement through City Temple terce State of Florida and fot and Hillsboro County city manager Carlos beay will explain thank you Mr
vice mayor members of council um as I mentioned at one of the recent meetings the state approaches fdot specifically uh we news that the community our community would be receiving significant funds that were derived from the C tax that was put in place several years ago
and then was challenged legally and the dollars that were collected the state legislature in essence created a law dictating how those dollars were to be in essence refunded to this area and one of those means is by this dispersement which covers the projects that were submitted originally by the community
such as the county Plant City Tampa and ourselves um uh in our in our case it's 10 projects for Paving uh the the the agreement before you this evening is a trip party agreement between the state the county and the city if the council approves it this evening it will result
in a funding stream of about $9.5 million to the community allow us to do a bulk of our Paving projects that typically would we fund out of like our street Improvement fund for example um and uh if Council does approve it this evening then the city excuse me the
County Commission is uh scheduled to do the same on their part at their April meeting happy to stand for any questions okay um any public comment on this item before before us tonight appearing to be none council
members we have any questions so this is mostly just so that people watching have a deeper understanding and that is so this is funds that were collected through through the sales tax sir tax that was
then later declared unconstitutional and this is one method of returning those funds to the community I wouldn't say I don't know if it was the clear in Constitution there was judgment struck down there's a judg this is the state legislator's approach
to return those dollars to this region okay so now with with this funding because we do have a number of state-owned roads in our community does is this funding strictly for the
city to use on City owned and controlled Paving projects or would any of this need to be used for a state-owned road in in lie of them using State funds so the the amount we're talking about here it's actually
9.49 million do is specific to City of Temple Terrace roads there's a list of road projects that are our own City owned roads uh I imagine the county has the similar pot of dollars obviously much larger pot of dollars for their roads uh and the state probably has as
as financing as well from from this project uh to accomplish the repairs to their infrastructure as well I just have one more question this is possibly for what you or the finance department and that is are we satisfied with the calculation that
was how they designated the number of dollars that come to the city I I know that we're going to get smaller dollars in Hillsboro County and City of Tampa Etc but are we satisfied with how they calculated what we receed this I believe this and finance director Ingram can correct me I believe this number is
actually larger than what we we had collected the dollars kept them basically in reserve pending the litigation and return those dollars as numbers bigger than that okay I think we collected about four to five million that's my recollection as well to it thank you any other
questions I do have one any time limitations on from the encumberance of these funds or I am not aware of any time limitations I believe there's a gentleman here from fdot in the audience who maybe can speak to that we got a lot of projects going
on Billy schmith FD sath you your question was specific to the encumbrance of the funds or yes no way we get it off is there any time limit on get time frame of those has to be finished like an arpa type time yes uh the fiscal year will change
over on uh July 1st therefore we need to encumber the funds before July 1st uh we're moving in fact I'm literally encumbering them today uh so that way we can go ahead and set up the agreements as we get them back so when you
guys uh finish your resolution here the county finishes theirs we'll get it back we'll execute it on our part once that is uh fully executed then we will fully Engage The incumbrance and uh set all that up so that will happen probably I would assume given the timetable with
the county approximately a month from now well I mean you'll encumber to us but we you know we'll have to encumber down the road to to outside AG this would be a reimbursement UHA reimbursement uh agreement so the city would go ahead and do the projects once
those particular projects are contracted and whatnot and the work is completed you would submit reimbursement to the state we would then pay the invoice after that but there's no time frame on us getting that work done it would be uh the agreement currently is set for I believe June 30th
2030 if I remember correctly time to get it done okay and it can be extended if necessary Jim WR that date down it's in the agreement promise I just have one um I and just for people for that they understand that uh the encumberance does
not mean that the project has to be complete by the deadline that our that we have to have it encumbered that's just meaning that we have it earmarked to be used for specific projects so because if you're if you understand
anything about governmental process and the time frame it takes to get one of these projects going you would know that it would probably never be finished by July 1st so we we do not have to have the actual construction complete by July
1st okay any other questions appearing to be none uh acceptable we have a motion to approving the State financial assistance agreement move to approve the resolution approving the State financial assistance agreement between the city of Temple
Terrace State of Florida Department of Transportation and Hillsboro County do we have a second second motion a second all any any um comments by councel appeared to be not all in favor please indicate by saying I I we oppose
motion passes thank you very much okay item C is a public hearing on a resolution approving a conditional use for property located at 501 Bullard Parkway Cheryl I believe you need to swear people in ra your hand just we to tell the
truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you guys and M Shan would you please query the Council for expart communication yes um if each uh council member would State
whether they have had any expart Communications either oral or written concerning this matter um if you have had something uh in writing then a copy of that needs to be provided to the clerk prior to a vote being taken on
this so if if you've got anything in writing hopefully you've sent it to her already or you're going to need to print that out quick um uh you also will need to State the sum and substance of any such communication when that occurred and who
that communication took place with and I'll start with council member Fernandez I have none coun I've had none I have had none I've had none thank you okay public hearing's open um Mr planer Malik
call Will where is he I saw stand there gu will explain hey Malik good evening uh vice mayor city council members of the staff and public we're here today for conditional use application 23-3 which is a public hearing and
reading for 501 bullet Parkway the applicant is Nicholas shett for Florida College so this is an a aerial image of 501 bowler Parkway as you can see it is a one primary structure there's an the
parking to the South and disability parking or disabled parking to the West Side the partiel acreage is .9 Acres the current zoning is single family r10 and the proposed use is college/university the work for the site includes interor
interior renovation that includes classrooms and labs and then the exterior work for the site would be Ada accessibility so striping for the uh disabled parking and walkway disability parking relocation there's going to be
an ADA ramp uh installed to the left side where their current disabled parking is and move to the South side and in the greater parking lot area and then there will be a walkway relocation on the north end this is up close of the building so you can see the finer details of the
floor plan and the also slab to the left or to the west of the property and the walkway relocation is to the Northeast end of the property this is a closeup of the side plan that
shows the parking lot with the two disabled parking spaces that was relocated from where the slab will be installed to two spots uh to the South just there this is an up close of the floor plan so this will be a classroom Labs
instructor office student lounge and uh restaurant room update upgrade these are the proposed conditions for the project uh the conditions essentially include the requirement to abide by the site plan
submitted through the application process it cites the conditional use expiration section and also where standards are not mentioned specifically herein standard regulations will apply thank you for your time and I'm here to
answer any questions thank you Malik um is there anybody in the public who has any comments on this item please good evening Cammy Corbett with the law firm of Hill Ward and Henderson and I am here representing the applicant Florida College we don't have a separate
presentation for you uh this was discovered that we didn't have the correct entitlements for this property while we were going in for permits for the renovation uh they've owned the property since 2004 and it's been in continual use as a college or a university all of that time so we're not
creating any new impacts that haven't been there it's just a testament to what a great job your current staff is doing and looking through your documents and making things are sure they're in order and they realized when we came in for the actual building permits to do the renovation that we did not have this
special use in place and so we do have our team here to answer any question question should you have any but otherwise we're just asking for your approval this evening thank you any any other anybody from the public have any comments or questions on this item appearing to be done councils there any
questions yes um it's it's more confirmation from staff and that is right in the past this building has functioned as a church and which is of not a residential use so if existed
already in this location as a church use with minimal impact to the neighborhood and I just want to confirm for residents who might not have realized that that the impact on nearby
neighbors we're not expecting any change from current operations to the Future Improvement of this building to have any impact on the neighbors different from what it has now believe that's the question been best answered by the applicant I can assure
you that the site is in compliance both uh in terms of the impacts in compliance for the proposed project but in terms of um will there be anything additional that's best answered by the applicant the applicant care to
address Cammy corpit again no the it is actually while it was used as a church that was back in before 2004 the college acquired it in 2004 so we're actually with this renovation reducing the number of students that can be accommodated in the building so if anything there's probably going to be a slight reduction
in any impacts to the neighborhood thank you any other questions are coming yeah chers somebody in the site plan slide what's the Shaded area that's currently administrative office for the uh primary structure for
the facility so none of that will change and the renovation nothing okay thank you I do have a question um I Heard just a moment ago that the current use has a history going back to
2004 that's what the applicants dat yet that's yeah right just making sure that I heard that correctly so does that mean that in 2004 they should have applied for a change of use but they failed to do so in terms of the conditional use yes sir um if the conditional use occurred
at that time then it became non- compliant at that time so yes so for 21 years Florida college has been operating this particular building in a manner in contention of their current code and it only came out because they applied for a
permit with the city it appears so okay thank you any other questions or comments okay um I will go ahead and close the public
hearing and ask the clerk to read the title The Resolution a resolution of the city of Temple Terrace Florida approving a conditional use application cu2 24-3 for a use change from church to college/university for property located south of Bullard
Parkway East of Lockmore Avenue and west of Glen Arvin Avenue addressed as 501 Bullard Parkway providing for severability authorizing authorizing for the correction of typographical errors repealing all resolutions or pots of resolutions in conflict herewith and providing an effective
date acceptable um entertain a motion to approve the conditional use for the property located at 501 Boulder Parkway move to approve a resolution approving the conditional use for property located at 501 Bullard Parkway
we have a second second we motion second any councel discussion on on the uh motion itself I just have a brief comment I think the fact that we're sitting here about to approve this I'm assuming shows how much we go out of our way to accommodate Florida college and
this is a use that's been going on for 21 years we are fixing the problem right now uh and I think it's evidence of the harmonious relationship that we strive for with Florida college and so I just hope that in the future um that will be
based on reciprocity so that's all I have to say on that any other comments here to be none all in favor please C by saying I I I all opposed motion passes unanimous thank you very much okay item D is a SE second public
Hearing in the first reading of ordinance 1580 adopting a comprehensive future land use map Amendment for 10851 rollerson Ranch Road I'll open the public hearing and Kell Christie from the planning yes from the Planning
Commission staff will explain welcome thank you uh Christa Kelly Planning Commission staff I'm so sorry just getting a handle on your your process here um today I'm presenting uh Temple Terrace uh
comprehensive plan Amendment 242 for a site located at 10851 rollerson Ranch Road this is a privately initiated map Amendment um it is a small scale Amendment meaning it's uh under 50 acres
and it's actually approximately 20 acres in size the applicants requesting a change from Temple Terrace's public semi-public designation to Temple Terrace's residential 18 designation this is a general location
maps showing the site on the Eastern side of Temple Terrace is it's kind of a unique location in that it is technically within uh Temple Terrace is jurisdiction however it is not contiguous to the boundary the eastern boundary of Temple
Terrace um as you see it's located on the uh south of East fer Avenue it is East it is on the east side of R rollerson Ranch Road and the I75 Valor interchange it is west of the bypass
Canal the Tampa bass canal and it's north of US Highway 301 um this is the aerial view of the site outlined in the pink dotted line as you see it's a heavily treed site it's vacant um the dotted blue line to the
East and North is the Tampa service area boundary and again the uh Tampa I mean the Temple Terrace boundary is to the West on the west side of I75 as you see the site AB buts the doctor kin Patel High School which is a
charter school just south of the site um the area of the school that abuts the site is undeveloped it's used for water retention and some recreational uses the site's bounded by rson Ranch Road and again by I75 to the west and to the
north it's um it's bounded somewhat by rallison Ranch Road and fer Avenue to the east uh the site is bounded by L uh managed by the Water Management District for the Tampa bypass
Canal uh this is a street view looking North down ralson Ranch Road at the subject property uh to the north and Northeast and then this is looking south from the southern boundary of the subject property towards the high
school um this is looking from the high school further south from the side um at a large track uh used as a sod wrench um and looking towards 3 US 301 US Highway
301 um this is on the west side of wallon Ranch Road looking on the west side of the road at a typical neighborhood in that area and now this is where the um it rson Ranch Road intersect with US
Highway 301 this is looking South at 301 rson ranches on the right hand side the adopted future land use map shows the site designated public semi-public
currently as you see uh again the site is an island onto itself and the surrounding area is in the county so those designations to the north um is uh the northern boundary is Suburban mix2 6
and also to the east directly adjacent to the east the area in the county is designated Public quas public which is a a similar designation to Temple Terrace's public semiu and then to the south of the site there is designated
Community mixed use 12 um this shows the site as proposed and designated residential 18 um as you can see that is the only um designation of that intensity in the
area uh staff reviewed the impacts of this change currently uh residential uses are not generally permitted in the public semi-public category um and up to approximately 437,000 square feet of non-residential
use could be considered if the change were approved um up to 360 dwelling units could be considered and up to 306,000 uh Square ft of non residential uses could be considered in summary the proposed site
would introduce a l a range of residential uses um including multifam and decrease and decrease the amount of non-residential square footage staff did review this site for
consistent staff of the U with the Temple Terrace comprehensive plan and found that cons that the site and the proposed change is consistent with the following policies in the future land use
element the amendment is consistent with land use policies 2.1.1 2.1.2 and 2.1.3 under the residential development section in the land um uh element these
policies Express the intent to protect stable neighborhoods and to provide for a wide range of residential housing types including multifam to accommodate the city's growing population these policies support the amendment by introducing the potential for developing
multif family in the area and would assist assist in maintaining the city's residential land inventory further policy 2.2.2 also under the resident iial development section supports locating multif family
uses in areas in proximity to office and Commercial activity centers as a growth management strategy the policy supports the amendment as the site does have convenient access to a designated Activity Center at the intersection of
US31 Harney Road and Temple Terrace Highway as well as to Fowler um Avenue um which is recognized as a multimodal uh Corridor which connects other activity connects the site to other
activity centers the amendment is also consistent with policies 3.5.4 and 3.5.7 which support the conversion of non-residential uses to residential ones in proximity to activity centers and multimodal
transportation corridors these policies support the amendment as just noted because decided does have convenient access to designated a designated Activity Center at the intersection of US31 Harney Road and Temple Terrace
Highway as well as having access to Fowler which again is recognized as a multimodal corridor which connects the site to other activity centers in addition the land use policy 3.5.1
lists um other roadways that are envisioned for for U Future activity centers and multi multimodal corridors this policy supports the amendment because it provides higher density in areas envisioned and that would
benefit from the increase of um residential densities in the area lastly the proposed amendment is consistent with with land use policy 8.1.3 which is under the growth management section and focuses on the discouraging discouragement of urban
sprawl and the promotion of fiscally responsible growth this policy supports the amendment because the proposed change to residential 18 on the site would discourage Urban spraw by concentrating growth and infilling an area with um new high density
development in an area that can maximize and be supported by public facilities and services um based on this review the Planning Commission uh recommends that the propos proposed map Amendment uh be found consistent with the goals objectives and policies of the Temple
Terrace comprehensive plan and that concludes my presentation I'm happy to answer any questions you may have thank you very much um do we have any public comment on this item yeah Will okay all
right can we we should be filling out the okay let's go ahead go okay you go first Charles hold on a second yeah yes I uh please come to the podium
and state your name for the record please come to the podium and state your name and city for the record residence I'm proud to stand in front of this Council please please state your name for the rest my name is
Muhammad and I I was a professor in the USF and also a Jun professor in HCC for a while so but originally I come from a Middle
East and I remember when I was little things changed now everybody westernized they say but they were the people in the tribe they sit like this the elders will make judgment I am
proud of this Council it remind it's the real way of Judgment of things now I don't want to take too much time but I I want to talk about this
project which Dr Patel is doing I think they're building housing or I'm not I just heard about it I came quickly to the meeting not very
prepared but what I'm trying to say that he pretel is a good man and he's doing a good project and people like him make good project they make the community
better life better for people but sometimes they ignore things they don't know things I my family also on part I land in Arizona there were two projects in
Arizona one near Phoenix and Bill Gates came and bought tens of thousands of acres to make make uh to make uh computer company City
that's good I don't know what the other project was somebody from take the mdle East Rich Man very rich man came and bought thousands of acres to build alala to to to raise alala for and take it
over there but what happened they drilled the land and they they they sucked all the water from underground so people like me and other
owners we owned 20 acres and my family own 20 acres and others own 10 acres now we cannot build there or use it because we cannot drill a water well cuz there is no water
underneath anymore please please finish up if you would I'm sorry I just want try to say this project is good that coming in in Temple teris but we live I live very on the rollers right road
which there's a map for that project and we had suffered originally from I75 noise now that state problem that County problem the city
problem but you guys took the lead from the owner and made iav5 so the people on this little side of the street they were ignored and we suffered from the noise
of I75 we have now they're building rollers of r Road and they I agreed with Dr Ash that to to build the two schools because schools are good for the community I didn't
object to that the street is now noisy so we doubled the noise from I75 to rers Road two schools more so they the road this I have to ask you I have
to ask you to now stop at this one more question is so the noise over there we need to I want you to for the making decision of projects like that project to remember the noise for us number two
is that there is a road behind these facil Ro I have I have to cut off I'm sorry I have to cut you off because we we need to speak thank you very much for your comments thank you I just want to say that the people who
live on that R right Road and the church and the there is a community over there they worry about accessing the r because of the speed I have to ask you to stop thank
you very much for your comments we app I I don't want to take too much time but I want to you've already taken double time so please I said three months ago to the council thank 6 months ago thank you very much and I did not get any answer said it so
thank you very much expecting some response thank you sir thank you who else who's Mr Lo well much briefer Charles Lo ter Park uh just a couple of things I was thinking about the question of first of
all how much is this is supposed to be like apartment so it be affordable housing and the other thing I was thinking about was rout bus route 48 that area is of course around near I75 and all that and why thinking about bus route 48 is because it goes near
there and uh would there be any thoughts about putting the bus over there so people could go on the project and pick it up over there hopefully eliminate at least a few of the cars over there and being I'm talking to the Secretary of the hardboard I did want to uh keep that in mind and that my mind is on that too
among other things about the 48 thank you thank you Mr Lo who else you got a comment please state your name for the record hello everyone my name is Anna rollerson um we leave rollerson ranch road we right next to the Patel high
school and um we we didn't know anything about it but a neighbor drop off this information to us we saw the the notice of the agenda but we weren't you know we weren't very I guess um we didn't look
into it but um I guess the only thing I wanted to say is right now the traffic is a it's a one way out and the traffic in the morning with all the parents dropping off the kids is
like all the way back I mean there it's like so hard for me to get out in the in the morning with my two children I have either to like mucle myself or some nice person would let me in so we're thinking
if this this apartment complex get built in there is um do they have a plan about this traffic there's about 600 I think students go to the high school middle school elementary school so how are they
you know what are their plans for evacuation that's one and um the traffic control because in the afternoon the same way like around 2 3:00 31 one is backed up with the traffic between north
and southbound how are the people one way coming out from that Dead End Road you know going to accommodate all this housing that's being proposed and then all the student you know students
that are in the school and then of course you know we are a small community back there but adding this all up how are we supposed to evacuate this if there's you know emergency how are we supposed to get out
in our in our driveway without getting run over or I've heard that I mean not I've heard I've seen it with my own eyes leaving in the morning people are RAR ending each other this is not even
having the apartment complex so if we add this apartment complex what kind of accidents are we going to be seeing you know in a daily basis in this two-lane road that opens up to be a
four-lane road in less than probably not even quarter a mile getting out 301 it's just there's no in and out there's not enough it's not accessible to have all that housing
being built at the end of the road without any other way out so I'm asking the council member to please if you would not consider for this planning thank you thank you thank you who
anybody else have comment Miss renie Anette reny 9512 with enri Temple Terrace all of you know me I'm a realtor Temple Terrace does not need any more multifam homes if it was single family
and large property that's one thing but we don't need any more Apartments it's just not necessary every place Redevelopment is full of Apartments every place you look as Apartments we don't need them thank
you yes ma'am oops I'm sorry I had a stroke last year uh my my name is mortha Moore I live on Navajo Avenue which is out from rollerson Ranch Road I've lived off
rollerson Ranch Road on Navajo for 50 years this is not the first development project on rollinson Ranch Road but the largest yet to increase the population growth to the date I also know there's a
uh I'm sorry I got confused city of Temple Terrace or group did not post notices where the public could read that the meeting could be held on the property we just were notified about this property what's going on in 360
Apartments I was told that it was posted in the paper but who reads the paper anymore I called and visited Community Development at Temple Terrace City Hall last Thursday and asked for print of the layout and proposed 360 Apartments the planed layout
of for the 360 Apartments will generate 360 cars or more on rollerson Ranch Road daily along with the 5 to 600 from Patel High Junior High School already on a oneway in and one way out County Road
totaling some 8 to 900 cars traveling two times a day every day the traffic backs up on Rish and Ranch Road to 301 and then from 301 up to Jefferson Road then blocks
back up then traffic backs up on Jefferson Road to fer Avenue this traffic is parents trying to get their kids their children to school on time along with Amazon UPS FedEx delivery
trucks and Commercial semi-trailers my request is that rers Ranch Road be enlarged to four lanes to accommodate the number cars traveling to this 20 acre property also a study needs
to be done to see if if a school bus or a fire truck or an ambulance service will be even able to enter that property and turn around and back up when call for help I met with Florida do last th
last Friday on this project and was told that they had already addressed the question of opening property onto fer Avenue this was mandated when the I75 was constructed the state they stated rers and Ranch Road will never be open
to fer Avenue reason given by the Florida do it would be divert it would divert traffic off of fer onto rers Ranch Road directly to Highway 301 creating a traffic nightmare for the residents living on rollerson and abajo
Avenue also the offramp to I75 runs all long the said property is why the road can't open to fow Avenue thank you need to F any any other comments no that's any other anybody else in the public
wish to make any comments oh I'm sorry I didn't see you that's please come to the podium state your name Katherine bonitz I also live on Navajo can I state your name again Katherine bonitz I want to iterate what she Martha has spoken about but
also they speed up and down the road constantly when they're taking their kids back and forth of school and I know if the housing goes up there because I've seen it they're going to go speeding up and down that road and that
road is way too small and there's only one way in and one way out I already got hit by somebody because he was going too fast and someone was letting me out on my side and it's just you get anxiety
every single morning trying to get to work because of these people on this road and if they put that apartment there it's going to be even worse and from what I understand he only had a permit to do another school and now he
wants to do an apartment the school is going to be bad enough let alone an apartment complex and it's just it's nerve-wracking because I mean we're a small community they've been there all their the whole
time it's been there and 75 cut them in half and we're just we're peons to everybody especially Patel because he has so much money and that's all he he had the road on rollerson done but
Navajo has potholes and everything else but we can't get anything done because we're peons and that's not right and I just want you to consider not to let him do this because it's not right thank you any other comment for the public would
the applicant like to to address these issues good evening my name is Brian Smith I represent the owner we've got our development team here Ash bagy Eric C and um bit Ali he's our TR Transportation engineer this is a land
use um change hearing but we are committed to working with the community um f and the city to make sure the traffic issues are addressed appropriately there is a consensus from fot that they do not want the uh reron
Ranch Road connected to F or connected the fower so we've made arrangements in the current plan to address the traffic issues inappropriately and this Dr pel has spent a significant amount of money improving the reron Ranch Road and
putting the traffic signal at 301 so we'd like you to consider all of those things when when approving that so if you have any other questions we're here to answer any questions you might have thank you thank you any other any other questions any other comments by anybody
okay um Council anybody have any questions of the applicant I do good Mr C I have a question to Mr Bell if anyone from his uh group would like to answer the question I could take an answer from any
one of you um I uh this was before I was up here but my my memory is still pretty sharp and I think you were one of three offers when you came to the city and proposed that you might want to purchase this property and if my memory serves me your offer was the lowest one is that
correct correct and if my memory serves me still the higher offer was to build apartments and I believe the consensus of the community was that we didn't particular like that and we like the idea of a school is that incorrect in your
mind okay Ware Warehouse was one of the offers that's true yes uh so it was either Warehouse or apartment or school and um hold my question to you is excuse me the person who's answering the
question please come to the I apologize I left it open hear the answer my bad please please please come please come to the podium Ash yeah Ash go ahead and answer the question
yeah I don't recall a school certainly recall a warehouse in one of those not not school the apartments in one of those three proposals and we were in the lowest there was one lower than us I believe okay but we are in agreement
that the offer that you submitted was not the best offer to the city financially was number three out of four I believe three out of four again I if my sells me right I think there was about a $1 million discrepancy between your offer and the highest offer is that
also your recollection ballpark yeah I cannot give you exact numbers not not speaking about legally right now but morally do you feel like now that you're also going away from the original use that you proposed the city I remember everyone
was very excited about it do you feel like ow Temple Terrace $1 million morally speaking I haven't thought of it that way I think the what we wanted to do a technical college as as council members recall we did a
study um and it was a very thorough study we've U spent quite a bit of money on the study so it came back the study came back saying a technical college was not financially viable we took almost
8 10 months for the study it was a pretty pretty thorough study so at which point we had no option so our heart was we are in education our heart was in education but at some point we had to Pivot because it was not financially
viable find it very interesting that you're bringing up the study so I have a question about that the study cited factors that made it economically unfeasible supposedly and all of them seem to me to be macroeconomic there were demographics
like a growing youth population unemployment rates um cyclical Trends regarding trade education um can you identify which of those factors changed from the date when you submitted the offer to the city to purchase the property to when this the
study that you commissioned was released 13 months later which which of those factors was unknown at the time when you submitted the offer I don't think anything changed so we we wanted to do the trade college but we had not done the study to do the trade college so we
acquired the land and then did the study so I wouldn't be able to tell you uh what changed in those 12 13 months I don't know because when we had made the offer for the land we did not know what the conditions were MH only after the
study did we realize that it it was not financially viable does that make sense didn't know what the unemployment rate was when you submitted the offer I mean generally speaking we had but we didn't know the demo you know the the depth of it right because for a
private trade College I mean there is tution associated with it right to be financially viable we committed to the city to do a for profit on that 20 acres so for us to be for profit for us to spend I think it was 60 70 million I'm
trying to remember the number numbers I wish I had better prepared for this meeting I didn't uh expect us to go back but that's okay you know to the study um so we were expecting to spend quite a bit of money on that uh uh college and to for it for it to be financially
viable we didn't have the number of students that we would need and just the tution to uh to make it viable just because of the uh Capital outlay well Dr patal I think you're you're a very sophisticated man and I think that
you're underestimating what you knew when you made that offer personally but uh I'm going to come back to my original question which was in light of everything do you feel any sort of moral responsibility toward Temple Terrace about the $1 million that your offer was below the other offer that we didn't accept because we're not getting what we
originally bargained for which was a school I'll have to go back to Dr Patel and talk to him I am not I'm my name is Ash bagd I'm part of the I apologize part of the group but I can certainly uh do that but yeah
I'm not thinking that way right now you know I think we want to do good good for the uh city of Temple Terrace we've built beautiful schools there you know so we really want we excited about the area and want to do more I'm sure it will work out well thank you thank
you okay any other comments or questions I do have a question uh Chambers did uh uh is there a traffic engineer sitting over there ah yeah good thank you uh did you do a a preliminary traffic study about the number of cars this this would
generate my name is uh baset Ali I'm actually a resident of Temple Terrace 710 Grand Circle uh we actually did do a preliminary study uh and we did a something called a trip generation report this essentially is based on the industry standard called The Institute of Transportation engineers and based on
that the 360 multif family homes will generate about 14 a.m. and 140 p.m. PE hour trips okay did you do any kind of study uh back when you were planning the college College uh no or the technical
school no so we don't know the difference because that would have generated traffic also correct okay we don't know that okay thank you if I remember correctly it was 1,200 students potentially how many students was it for
do you remember maybe 1200 all right M fernandz um I have a combination of questions for the applicant and the city and one is who actually owns the road and is responsible for improvements and
maintenance yeah I'm more than happy it's a f. owned R Ranch Road is f. owned and maintained so um f dot I know goes through basically all of the
roads that they own and maintain whenever any kind of development is going to be placed and gives the road a grade as to is it currently meeting the required standards does it need Improvement to meet those standards or
does it is it suitable for the project that may uh be placed along that road so um we did have a pre-application meeting with fto and in that they asked us to look at the intersection of 301 rson Ranch Road and we did preliminary look
at it uh we what we did is we collected existing counts at the intersection and then grew them out using background um growth rates and then on top we added the project traffic anticipated project traffic and based on that the intersection of 301 and rolls and Ranch
Road would um function acceptably uh FD uh classifies intersections from level of service a through f after our study uh upon buildout it would be a level of service B uh so level of service a is 0 to 10 seconds of average delays and based on our study the
average intersection delay would be 10.7 seconds so just above the threshold of level of service a into B so we did not see any deficiencies at the intersection so I'm I'm looking at it from the point of view of a resident and that is um I
live in the traffic pattern of two an elementary school and a middle school and most people apparently their children don't bike to school anymore they get driven um my children walk to school but um so what I and I'm very
familiar the same we have the same issue one Street in one street out at River Hills Elementary and I know that it may be that the traffic pattern in general the road can support it but at those
time periods when you're dropping off and at pickup time with this one Road in and out it's going to be impossible for anyone to get in and out of their neighborhood I mean I and example I live near very
close to Gillette Avenue which has Greco Middle School on it but I'm able to go around I know what happens at 4:15 I know that the parents are stacked up there and I also know that the school has a traffic pattern allowing cars to
stack more onto the property to try to keep them to try to keep traffic open a little bit would the school be willing to change their traffic pattern to stack cars more into their property to help
alleviate some of this and are there Road improvements that could be done that actually make it safer for people to come in and out not just the school but the neighborhood as well because I
I your study may show that it's only going to be 10 and some trips with the 360 units but just personal experience with multifam
Apartments um from you know former living experience to children in college and it seems like just it seems like it's more trips than that at peak time which is already on top of a school
setting so I get my question is I'd really like to see some discussion of actual traffic alleviation Road improvements as well as what the school can do schools because
there's more than one to try to get the traffic pattern improved I yeah I sorry before I cannot speak to what the school can do so appreciate that thank you yeah I think uh Dr Patel and his team is are is committed to working with the
community and F do to figure out what's the best answer to manage traffic to make sure that we're addressing the community's concerns um we understand that there is significant amount of traffic because of a school and I think there are some uh methods that can help
alleviate some of those challenges getting in and out but that traffic signal at 301 was a plus to the community for that help them get out on to 301 so we're committed to contining to work with fot and the community to resolve any traffic
issues well I just have one more comment so I guess my concern is that if this is this is the second reading if this is approved tonight while the traffic study has said that the road will be a
b and and acceptable for the uses that are proposed Ed my concern would be that if we do agree to this because the traffic Authority has said
that this is an acceptable use there won't be a requirement to do any traffic improvements for both the the residents and the people attending the school that that would be my only concern we understand
that and I think uh this is since is is a land use hearing you're going to see this project come before your before you for approval on several other occasions for the uh site plan approval process and that's when that issue would be
addressed so go ahead if I just add to what Ryan said so you know we the Patel schools we'll commit to looking at ways we can further alleviate traffic there's no questions about it it's our schools so we'll see what we can do to ease it
okay I'll get to the princip principles next week and we'll start working on that okay no doubt about it the comment questions I have a thank can I sorry we we had sh um I do have a question to the traffic dude
um one of the one of the slides it indicated that under the current status no residential was allowed but it could be up to 467,000 Ft of Warehouse I believe that was a current but what we just I'm say
but the car could do that or 360,000 Square ft and 306,000 I'm sorry 360 apartments or 306,000 square feet is that I can't I'm trying to visualize that visualize that that chart okay as a
traffic engineer what type of increased traffic of Grant going be all 18 wheel semis going in there were it to go back to or were it to have remained as as Warehouse what kind of traffic increases would
have occurred under that scenario I know uh I have not looked at the current what's allowed under the current future land use uh we just looked at the apartments but um I could take a look into it and look at the the daily traffic that would be generated by
what's currently allowed versus what is being proposed um but I believe you did have um something that that could show what the daily generation would be and uh Chris your name oh sorry Eric sea
with Elman uh I live in Sarasota but I helping Ash and the school and the uh uh and the property owner with the multif family but if I recall uh on the report that the county
had put out uh the granted this is FDT roote but the hillsb transportation did take a look at it based on current Q uh is that in quasi
public there would have been you could have generate more traffic that way if you were to keep it at the current L use whereas on the AP it actually there was on the report it was a
reduction on the traffic so uh I don't know if it wasn't that okay thank you cuzz my my my thought process on that is the uh the the warehouse is going to have to be fulfilled with semis going in and out all day long so I don't you know again
not not not to diminish your concerns I I fully feel it because I go in over there every day too if I'm you know I mean Common Sense tell me that if I was to put a school there the traffic might be yeah the trade school would have
January mod because every trade school students will be driving there so versus that was my question for how many students per day so maybe you can touch on that I could just speak to the trade school a little bit if the peak hour
traffic is the issue then a school will be worse than Apartments I can just okay thank you um Mr Sean are we going off the path too far with this discussion or are we no I mean you can ask whatever
questions you need to ask in in order to to make your decision um I can provide you a little bit of Guidance with regard to what is required as far as evidence in making that decision um whenever
you're ready to hear it please so um when it comes to comprehensive plan amendments uh there must be competent evidence and it must uh demonstrate that the amendment is consistent with the
existing comprehensive plan which uh that information has been provided by Miss Kelly earlier um also to deny a comprehensive plan Amendment um there has to be competent
evidence uh demonstrating that maintaining the status quo serves a legitimate public purpose such as protecting the health safety or welfare of the community the the evidence presented must be substantial and competent
meaning it should be reliable relevant and sufficient to support the decision this is important though conclusory statements or unsubstantiated opinions are not sufficient
um such as if someone wanted to uh present uh information about uh increase in traffic flow um that this would cause a serious problem um certainly a a lay
person can offer fact testimony about what they see what is occurring however um to to say that uh it it's it's going to cause a
substantial problem that is not uh sustainable then they would probably have to provide some expert testimony conflicting with the uh traffic expert that's here they would have to sub
provide their own traffic expert um not not wanting to diminish the effects of traffic noise there have been cases um where the court has actually stated that uh increased traffic noise and increase
in traffic itself uh is a is something that we contend with in a modern society so that alone is not generally a sufficient reason to deny something however um if there is evidence that the
amendment would lead to incompatible land uses or inadequate infrastructure or other negative impacts on the community that could be considered as a reason to deny the amendment
um the um there must be presented evidence showing that the proposed amendment conflicts with the goals objectives and policies outlined in the existing comprehensive plan in order to deny um again miss uh
Kelly has presented evidence that it is consistent with our comprehensive plan so outside of that you can look at the other um elements that I have mentioned and uh if you have any questions I'll
try to elaborate further you have any questions for the city time um the evidence rules that you just enumerated apply to quasi judicial proceedings is that correct they also apply to comprehensive plan Amendment proceedings which are
legislative the standard of review ends up being different the this is requires a fairly debatable standard in order to if someone appeals it all also only a person who an affected person may appeal it but um the courts uh use a fairly
debatable standard uh as opposed to Beyond A Reasonable Doubt standard so the Court decisions that you just quoted specifically refer to comprehensive plan amendments I didn't refer to a specific uh case I said that the courts have
stated that about traffic evidence about traffic and opinions about traffic and noise they have commented on that partic particular element before is that an Orbiter dictum or why were they quot why were they discussing it if there was no specific case on traffic I didn't say
there was no specific case I did not cite a specific case but it was from a specific case yes and was it about a comprehensive plan amendment I don't recall exactly no further questions
questions I do so I have two questions not necessarily for the City attorney but one is is who who is responsible is this um an area that our police officers do Patrol for speeding and and law
enforcement and also then my second question is what would actually let's say we we approve this and the project for some reason this project doesn't actually happen what what what would
someone be allowed to use this property for after this um change I could ask the police chief to come up to the podium and address the question of the law enforcement and then if I could queue up uh maybe our city
planner to address the other secondary question or the Planning Commission okay as far as the roadway out there we wouldn't enforce anything out there our jurisdiction ends at the Rish and Ranch property we don't even have the school so it would be the county that would
have to enforce that being told that the representative from the Planning Commission might be able to address the question Christa Kelly Planning Commission staff um in response to your question what could occur on that site under a residential 18 land use category
um that allows up to 18 dwelling units per acre it's typically a town home or multi family development um I also indicated that uh you can have a point or I indicated the square footage for non-residential that can be considered based on locational
criteria um I believe it's a 354 area ratio um and that would be determined at a zoning stage um in terms of what they're requesting and how the site would either accommodate that use or
not it it's it's very hard at this stage to be very specific unless there's a a concurrent resoning um in the wings okay and I I have one more question then for staff and and it's for our purposes with
this with what's in front of us tonight it's strictly amending the comprehensive code for future land use any actual that's any actual development would would be would come before us at a
future correct my my understanding is that this evening it's the comprehensive plan Amendment there's still two at least two subsequent land use actions a rezoning that'll be required that'll come before this this uh Council as well as a site plan if Council approves this this evening but this just allows to go
back to the Planning Commission or will this you'd be if if Council approves it this would be the approval to modify the comprehensive Planet which the Planning Commission addresses okay the comment are quite okay okay um
we'll close the public hear and I will ask the clerk to read the title of the ordinance an ordinance of the city of Temple Terrace Florida amending the Imagine 240 Temple Terrace comprehensive plan future land use map for five Parcels of land located south of East fall Avenue and east of Interstate 75
addressed as 10851 rollison Ranch Road in totaling 20.1 plus minus Acres lying within the city of Temple Terrace legally described an exhibit a attached here to by changing the future luse designation on said property from public
semi-public to residential 18 for CPA 24-02 providing for Amendment of the official future luse map of the city providing for severability providing for correction of typographical errors repealing all ordinances of parts of ordinances in Conflict here with in providing for an effective date is there
a motion on the ordinance yes move to approve second reading of ordinance uh 1580 adopting a comprehensive plan future L land use map Amendment for 10851 rollerson Ranch Road second have a
motion a second any any um uh discussion on the motion by council members no one else wants to go I've got a comment okay I I don't seem to see any reason why we're
compelled to convert this into Apartments now of course the City attorney is free to correct me if there is an obligation to do that on our part um I do find it very unfortunate that we were expecting to receive a school that
we turned down other offers that were higher um and I'd personally welcome if the applicant would venture some propos proposals about mitigating some of the concerns that have been raised by residents um because he did get a good deal and I think it would be a sign of
good faith on his part if uh something like that came our way so I don't know if anyone else shares that view but that's that's my position on that any other comments no there to be no other comments we have a motion to Second uh all in favor please indicate by saying I
I I opposed motion car carries unanimously thank you very much Miss uh ordinance 1580 is adopted okay Council business is there any Council business carryover from the previous
meetings Mr FZ it's it's a question for the city manager um so I don't know if you want me to do it now or in the city manager report what is it well it's just about
our uh storm water drainage review and I I know that after the the last storm where we obviously had a high water um storm we've had a lot of discussion about storm water we've obviously put
some storm water projects in place but I know that we were looking at a comprehensive review of the whole system as it operated in whole and I just didn't know where if if you had an update on that yes U Mr Vice may members of the council good that's actually
great timing on that question because uh yesterday I received an email from the consultant that was commissioned by the uh the county to look at storm water regionally and as you recall several months ago we said we wanted to be included in that county so they reached out specifically because that was our
our our contention so we are setting up a meeting with that consultant to talk about and the Public Works director myself and the city engineer to talk about the city of Temple Terrace and what occurred here um and then add that to the mix because this is again this is going to be a bigger countywide issue so
as soon as we have more information we'll relay that to the council okay thank you any other board reports or Council business excuse me I we're doing uh Council Business carryover Council business not carry over I I have new okay all right then next to be new
business Andor board reports councilman Chambers thank you um first as your library Lea's on Mr L did a very good job with my report uh but there is library book sale um by friends of the library this Thursday
through Saturday down at the library again the money that they make uh goes back to buying uh uh materials books and materials for the library so go there you get some great deals on some great books the second thing uh I I would like to ask the city manager to make sure
that uh of the issue of flooding we heard of in public comment on Bon Air is uh addressed and someone gets back to those people yeah if that's okay with the council definitely okay that's all I have sir any you other new business or
you had something uh well I want to ask about the information that was brought up before us regarding fluoride I know we've talked about the state having some um analysis and maybe making some changes
and not really knowing what the state would do we control our own water so I'd like to ask the council if we would look into this issue i p on a personal level I would be in favor of removing the fluoride from our water I have read a
lot of information and spoken to a lot of people about it and I do personally believe that it is offering no benefit um and there can only be a downside I mean if you if you just think about it logically if your toddler is drinking water and they're 30 lbs and
you're drinking water and you're 10 and something and the it's obvious that the rate of consumption the per body weight is a higher delivery for the toddler than for the adult where it's a one-size
fits all which doesn't make any sense to me um so I do agree with the comments that were raised earlier and I I I would I mean my personal opinion I would like this city to discontinue using it but I
um one person not in charge so I wanted to ask this Council their thoughts on it and if you would be interested in pursuing information and hearing the the pros and cons anybody have any com go ahead I
have a comment on that um you can interpret data any way I mean the toddler is not going to drink as much so they're getting the same amount so it depends I know it's at the state level there's both the house and a have bills there I would like this body to wait
until we see what they do if they uh require us to take it out then we don't have to deal with it and uh if that fails up there then we can certainly hear it here but I would like to know besides just the studies I would like to know a lot more things there's studies
all over the place on both sides so I agree which is why I'm asking I we control our own water so my personal opinion I don't care to wait for the state to make a decision we are in charge we are we are the body that answers to the people locally so I would
rather do what our citizens would like but that's so I'm asking if this Council would be interested in putting this topic on the agenda so that we can have people speak to both sides of the issue those who think that it's beneficial to
keep and those who would be um agree to remove it Cheryl do we know the status of the bill in in in in the house I don't know where it is right now I haven't heard anything on it um Mr B do you have any comment I
don't know the the specific status but I would imagine that that bill will pass and that provision would pass just based on the majority of the house and this argument is very passionate for people but it also takes a political turn as well as I think we all all can acknowledge So based on the the
majorities in the legislature I would I would assume it's going to pass but that's just me saying that count the the the legislator's in session now and I would rather let the the legislature deal with this issue we have enough staff has enough stuff on
this plate right now that that uh in my opinion we don't we don't need to get embroiled in in that issue um I would like if we did I would like to hear pros and cons I've read and I've seen But I want to hear from some professionals including our own some of our own Turtle
people um that that work with the fire department and health so uh um any comment uh it's my personal opinion doesn't matter this is a topic that seems to motivate people strongly so I think if we had a debate out in the open
like you said uh Mr vice mayor with pros and cons and actual experts coming in uh I think it'd be interesting to have that just so that it's given a full treatment and so that everyone feels like they've been heard uh and I think that if we maybe orchestrate that in a clever way
it won't Impact Staff very much because we'd be hopefully relying on external Talent uh so in principle I'm open to it but if it's going to get preempted anyway it's potentially also a bit of a waste of effort yeah that's my that's my thought on the process let's let's let's
take a wait and see attitude for a little while longer um the state looks like it's going to pass and we we all any chance they get they they take home rule away so it's it uh that that's one I wouldn't mind bounce passing back to them um okay so let's I have a board
report anything else okay board report so Riverwatch task force didn't have a quorum uh David borich came as he said he would and so we were we not able to operate do we you did not you did not we
didn't have a quorum unfortunately okay cool any other comments new business or board reports I I have one comment about the 100y Year celebration just to make sure that people know that if you go on the
website there is actually a little link that you can click on to find out more about what's going on for the 100e celebration and I encourage um all the residents new and old to click on the link or just keep a breast of what's
Happening um that's it nothing on Art and Blanc I'm surprised oh yeah well we've already art and Blanc is this Saturday night uh the I guess ticket sales are still open there are a few uh seats available it's
a great event it is the main fundraising event for the uh tum Terrace Arts Council uh the Arts Festival in November is by no way a fundraiser for the Arts Council so this helps fund that event so if you haven't got your tickets and you have uh something to wear in white and
you want to hear good entertainment and and see a lot of good art and uh participate in the art auction and everything come on out no coyote sure H okay um City manager's report thank you Mr vice mayor uh so I
would like Troy tinch our utilities director come on up to the podium so Troy uh is leaving us for the uh the dark side I guess the the private sector um and this is his last meeting
with the city of Temple Terrace so I wanted to uh thank him for for his service to the community um he's been invaluable and if if you were at the EOC during Hurricane Milton he was there the whole time and going back and forth and trying to you know fix pipes and make
calls and do everything uh as as much as he could with his team so uh I wanted to thank him again and offer him an opportunity to say whatever he would like to the council at this point well I mean it's it's been a real pleasure my 7year anniversary was on the 5th of this
month and I've really enjoy my time here I I've lived here my entire professional career um it was a real honor to work for the same city that I'd live in something I had not had an opportunity to do before I took this position and
I've learned a lot uh there's a lot out there that I still don't know but it's really been a growing experience I've enjoyed my time here and I'm sad to go but the next stage of my career is is waiting and I'm I about that as well so
thank you so much thank you for all I personally um you uh were always a uh a source of information now I can't aggravate you I can aggravate Brian you still call me I just might not have the answer thank you very much congratulations and good luck on in the
future thank you thank [Applause] you come back anytime that's all you got Sir Mr Shan nothing nothing okay directors it's only 810 we still got a lot lot longer to go okay thank you
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