meeting of the community redevelopment agency together it is August the 15th council members if I really hope that we can wrap this up by like five minutes to six so we can transition to the next meeting so with that uh is there a motion to
approve the minutes from May 16th second motion a second any discussion of the minutes if not all those in favor signify with aye aye aye minutes are approved and finance director Jim Ingram is here to present a resolution approving a CRA
annual comprehensive financial report for the fiscal year ending September 30th 2020. welcome Mr Ingram welcome good evening mayor Mr Mayor and city council we have a resolution to approve the CRA
annual comprehensive financial report for the fiscal year ending September 30th 30th 2022. MSL CPAs and advisors the city's auditor has completed the annual CRA audit which
you have been given a copy there were no findings in the audit it is recommending that the Temple Terrace Redevelopment agency adopt a resolution approving the CRA annual
comprehensive financial report for fiscal year ending September 30th 2022 and I'll stand for any questions if you have any very good thank you Mr Ingham are there members of the public who wish to comment on the audit
seeing none council member questions for the finance director I do you also okay council member Fernandez so for the first off I just want everybody to know that the actual report is attached to the agenda so that if you want to look
at the report you can go through the agenda and it's there but um for in that reporting there isn't anything you know it doesn't include all of the information about what is the taxable
what's the value that's taxable what's the the additional tax that we're getting because it's a tax incremental funding and then we don't have I know that we're not doing this right now but at some point it would be nice for us to
talk about like our expectations what we're looking at into next year with specific to that tax incremental funding and just the CRA District because I know sure yeah we can do that
at the we will have a budget meeting uh doesn't require the two hearings like the annual City budget does but on September 19th I think we are planning a CRA meeting where we adopt the budget
and I will just talk a little bit about that in a minute and we'll have that information for you okay that's that factory councilmember other questions okay very good uh is there a motion to
approve the audit move to approver resolution approving the CRA annual comprehensive financial report for fiscal year ending September 30th 2022. second motion the second discussion on the motion all those in favor signify with i i
opposed no names the audit is adopted resolution passes thank you thank you um next item is a brief discussion of the CRA preliminary budget for fiscal year 2024 and Mr Ingram will now talk on that item yes as I mentioned uh September 19th we
will adopt the budget we um right now it is uh we have some numbers we do need to wait for Hillsborough County to make sure we do have their millage rate because our millage rates
the county the port of authority and the city we all contribute to the CRA but I believe from what I've seen that um it's not going to change much the counties millage is not going to change much so I think we have some pretty
solid numbers the good news is that as long as the county doesn't have some ridiculously low millage rate which wouldn't expect for the first time we should have a reserve going to the CRA
we only have the one loan payment to make you know we have been historically paying down the CRA loans with the Tiff Revenue and I right now we're projecting about 430
000 uh reserve for the CRA for the Tiff which can be used at your discussion you know for expenditures keep in reserve even paying down more of the debt beyond
what is scheduled for mixed fiscal year so we will have that on the 19th and have all the details the value did go up um about by about forty thousand forty million I'm sorry
about 40 million dollars very good thank you Mr Ingram is that kind of the questions that you were looking at council member I thought so yeah other questions for Mr Ingram regarding the budget that we'll be hearing soon very good anything else Mr Ingram nope
that's it okay thank you very good next uh business relations manager Greg Pauley is here to discuss have a discussion about demolition of the structure at 8447 North 56th Street welcome Mr Pauley thank you sir Mr
chairman agency board members thank you for this opportunity to speak this evening on a couple of items I know that Mr Ingram just talked about a little bit of a surplus in funds I have a couple of items for you to consider tonight that if given proper direction we can
um we can make a it part of the proposed budget moving forward the first item if I could pull up the PowerPoint the first item as you read sir in the title of the item is the demolition of this 8 000 square foot old restaurant
structure located at 8447 North 56th Street this building has been vacant since 2018. it was originally built in 1974 and it's been about a half a dozen different restaurants over the years um
it was acquired into the city's folio of property back in 2004 there was a a transfer of property during the master Redevelopment phase and then it was reacquired in 2014 and it still belongs to the city and that picture
represents the front of the building pretty well at this point the property is currently listed for sale by our city broker as I mentioned it's been vacant for many years it's currently in a state of disrepair and structurally compromised the building itself is simply not salvageable it
would have to be knocked down at some point regardless of when that occurs Public Works staff has responded more than 50 times in the last five years to board up broken windows and doors the property has become a target for
overnight dumping and illegal trespassing and police Personnel have actually responded a total of 300 times to various complaints and calls over that same five-year period removing the old building will open up the space providing for a natural
surveillance of the property and diminish or discourage deter future criminal activity on the property will eliminate the negative stigma the the negative feeling and image that that old dilapidated building is bringing to our
CRA it will also enhance the overall curb appeal and marketability of the property that is again currently for sale hopefully to make it more attractive towards developers or potential business owners wishing to redevelop that space the estimated cost to demolish the building is just under
fifty thousand dollars and with your consideration and if you wish to see if you wish to move in this direction staff can include this expense in the upcoming CRA fiscal year CRA budget and that completes my presentation on the first
item very good thank you Mr pulley um council members councilmember Abel I'm sorry board member able I feel like I need to put on a mustache so I was wondering I don't need to know an exact value but
I know we have an appraised value for that property and it might very well be a hurdle for a developer to want to have that property because they have to demolish the building to do anything but I'm wondering if doing a stimulation will alter that appraised value at all or if it's probably not going to have a net effect it has is that that building
has zero value literally zero value it's in fact it has a negative net because it is not uh it's not a building that can be rehabbed it is a knockdown so the valuation of the property is based on just the
property yes sir yes ma'am you got me with the beard comment um so anyways um no that's the only question thank you thank you board members that's a yes or no okay council member board member Fernandez so I have we had
any interest in that property to date or I mean and has the feedback been well but this is a consideration we have to knock this down I mean it's a cost of doing business for them does do we have
the actual I don't want to say data obviously we don't but do we have the assurances from our our Realty Group that it is more marketable without the building absolutely I had this exact same conversation with our broker recently
and uh the answer to the question is absolutely I don't have a hard number that we can attach to it because as you know the the market right now is very fluid and and somewhat has slowed down due to the cost of large-scale financing
so that's a whole other challenge that our Brokers are working with potential buyers and business owners to overcome but as far as the negative impact that this old building has on the property it has in more than one occasion stalled
developers coming forward because they know it is an additional so when we talk about demolition demolition of the building uh what does that actually Encompass because if you drive behind the building into the parking lot that's in extremely
bad condition so I mean the parking stops are there the curbs are there all of that is there but are we talking about just because basically what I'm saying is for anyone to build on it they're going to have to
completely take up all the paving all of the curb everything away but are we talking about simply taking the building structure down or are we looking at doing the rest of the demolish no at this time we're talking about bringing
the building down okay and returning a rough grade to the building footprint the developers that have looked at the property are aware that it would need a complete regrade the pavement that's on the ground is really not serviceable any longer there's a lot of large old trees
on that property that have tore up the pavement quite a bit so your observation is accurate but that's not what I'm asking for tonight I'm asking strictly to take the building down so where the building would improve the marketability we don't have the same concerns about
the pavement and the the rest of the property I just want to make sure that we're not like being Pennywise pound foolish no I I think I understand your question and the the building itself
has developed a very stale stigma for that space and it's it's taken away a certain level of marketability a certain curb appeal is gone it doesn't exist anymore as far as
some of these other improvements developers that are going to be developing on commercial property that's that's understood that's certainly understood that those are the things that they would have to overcome with their original site layout okay
that's it that's it I have vice versa thank you are we going to be able to recoup any of the fifty thousand dollars in any way or is that just the cost of being safer and to improve the looks of that building or
the property that is a question that's very difficult to answer because again it's going to be dependent on the sale and negotiation of the property and of course with the market being soft right now that's going to be very hard to even give you a justifiable response it's
just it's just too soft of a market to uh to answer that okay all right thank you Council board member schistler yeah um no I think that this is this discussion right so I I have real questions questions about a question of
comment thank you hold on to it I'll call you first all right that works I have a question yes sir so assuming that the board wants to do this and I'm hoping that they do how soon can we do this because this Tiff money is not going to drop on
October 1st we don't collect taxes all on October 1st but if we get it done on October 15th we have to pay the contractor that did it so where's the money come from I mean it might be the end of the year before we go not the end of the year but it might be into the fiscal year before we
accumulate fifty thousand dollars in taxes can we get this done somehow soon because this is a problem this building and it's become more of a problem recently after the the demolition of the
whiskey Junction play whatever the heck that place was it's become yeah it's become worse it's become more of a problem so there is a in my mind anyway there's a urgency to this good question um
there is a quarterly contributions from the general fund that will exceed 50 000 per quarter so your first quarter we could make that transfer in October
to cover that and and the other the contributions from the other the port of authority in the county those usually come in by the end of December okay so we could get it done yeah okay that's what I wanted to know other questions
okay we'll have if we have a motion and I'll call on Mr schisler first I'd like to move to demolish the structure at 8447 North 56th Street second now clarification are we moving
this forward are we moving to make a recommendation to city council to do this think what you're moving is to have it included in the fiscal year 24 budget for the CRA for the CRA okay I'd like to amend my motion okay I'd like to put
this in our budget for the 2024 fiscal year to demolish the structure at 8447 North 56th Street I'm already second read okay Motion in a second discussion on the motion council members board member sister I think this is something we need to do the curb appeal issue
drive down there it just looks horrible and you know prospective uh buyer is going to drive by their side I have no desire to be involved with this it's just terrible 300 police calls for nothing I think that you know that that
gets expensive after a while someday we're going to have a fire down there and somebody's going to get hurt so I I'm in full support of this very much okay Council board members all those in favor signify with i i opposed no Nays we'll put it in the budget thank you Mr Paulie you have about seven minutes so I
don't know how thorny the next issue there we go it came right back up yeah you might have to consolidate someone sure absolutely sir I understand um this next item is also a budgetary consideration for the CRA as you recall back in June we had a field public
meeting an infield public meeting at the property at 205 South River Hills Drive we talked about different passive and active uses that the community could use that property for and again I apologize I'm going to go as quick as I can through this staff now I'm not talking about me
personally I'm talking about collectively various departments contributed to this staff recommends that if the city Only wishes to use the property for Passive recreational uses with no improvements and no amenities that we do not touch the property as far
as it's zoning and we do not come to you and request any land actions if on the other hand we do wish to upgrade any amenities active recreational uses or other improvements on the property
we will need to consider possibly rezoning and or replatting the parcels depending on what exact construction is to take place as well as we have a sizable right-of-way that cuts through the property and we may need to look at
vacating that right-of-way in preparation of adding any amenities or improvements staff is seeking to update our current database or our records and surveys the current information that you've been previously provided I don't know if you took note
but it's 25 years old it's no longer valid as far as modern construction is concerned here is a quick rundown of some of the survey estimates the numbers on this page everything above the Bold line was obtained from one of our Consultants on
our approved consultants list you can see the different breakouts there I won't go through them individually but you can see that the numbers do add up when you put them all together and the bottom below the Bold line is a separate consultant also on our approved list of
Consultants that can coordinate and work directly with an environmental scientist to delineate the EPC formalize that EPC line between the wetlands and the upper glands that is also something that would have to be done in the event of
development down in that portion of the property so in this consideration I proposed 30 just slightly over thirty five thousand dollars and once again if the CRA board wishes to move in this direction we can include that in the budget coming forward coming forward in
the near future got through it fast let me just and I'm not presuming to speak for Council I'm going to ask them here in a second for questions and discussion I just me speaking here we had a field trip out there where we had a couple of
members of the public that joined with us and gave a little input but we really haven't had a lot of opportunities for the public to chime in on this we we haven't held a workshop or we you know we had a limited thing but
it was during the day that was really more for us to go down and look at this it wasn't in my mind it wasn't a meaningful I mean it was a public meeting but it was in the middle of the daytime and you know how many people are going to walk through a field and that kind of stuff
so I personally wouldn't have an issue putting that in the budget but I think before we decide what we're going to do whether we're going to need to update the survey or not we need to have some discussion and public input about okay what's our vision because we went and
looked at it but we didn't really have a discussion about you know passive uses were the kinds of activity that would be there and we didn't Hammer that down so personally I wouldn't have a problem putting it in the budget that doesn't mean we have to spend the money but it does mean that
it's there if we choose to go that way and and yes sir that's exactly what I'm seeking tonight okay yes your blessing on including it in the budget okay council member board member questions we'll have comments okay okay keep in mind we have about hopefully three or four minutes
all right so we're really my main thing is I don't have opposition to putting this in the budget but I don't want by agreeing to put something in the budget that I'm agreeing to the activity because I don't know that this needs to happen right now I'm going to agree with
the mayor on this we don't have we haven't had a lot of discussion about this we don't really know what the public is going to want to do and we don't know what we're ultimately going to do and it seems to me that a survey like this could actually be pushed much
farther into being closer to having some sort of maybe not having a final plan but having a direction to go well if I may suggest why don't you make a motion to that effect saying that to
put it in the budget but be clear in your motion that it's not necessarily an approval to do the activity until further action is taken okay so I'm going to move that we Place Funding for a survey of 205 South River Hills Drive
in the CRA budget but that that survey is not to take place until Council gives Direction a second very good nicely done thank you discussion on the motion yes um council member Abel she looked that
way first I'm sorry I promise you're next I was going to say this might be a good opportunity for the board to recommend to council and take off our mustaches um that it's probably a good time to consider having a a town hall to discuss this and also pedestrian master plan
that's all the motion says the surveys but there's multiple items does that need to be clarified or you know the funding for all of those items to be included okay that's all we would either need to do all of that I think we need to but she said the
surveys there's four or five different things in there it says a survey on our yeah I think we put the funding as a placeholder to do all of those things as long as we're helping with that I'm good I just want to make sure he gets all his requests not just a survey
yeah that's included right okay other comments on the motion discussion on motion okay board members all those in favor signify with i i opposed no names and I promise you my last item is very fast it better be
the dates for the next fiscal year CRA meeting we use the same scheduling routine as we have in the past it's the it's immediately prior to the second council meeting of the second month of each calendar quarter so if you could please review those and if they're
acceptable approve these as our upcoming meeting dates are there any members of the public wish to comment on these dates council member questions about the dates I'm sorry okay go right ahead board member sister
move to approve the uh ttra meeting dates as proposed for fiscal year 24. Motion in a second by council member Fernandez discussion on the dates if not all those in favor signify with i i
opposed no Nays dates are adopted thank you Mr Paulie thank you everyone is there any other business to come before the CRA board I have comments for but I'll delay those until the uh the meeting of Mr Paulie can hang around
over there to the to the council meeting are you going to be at the council meeting Mr Paulie I was planning on staying for the Kimberly horn presentation as you can see our consultants in the audience did you need me to stay longer than that sir good that's the questions on the CRA okay okay
very good good other business okay we will be adjourned Brian you have four minutes