I'm gonna go ahead and start We're going to go ahead and start. All right. Now, hopefully Litha didn't have any aspirations on any. position All right, uh, I'm gonna call to order the April 22, 2026.
Historic preservation Board meeting. Today we'll be starting with elections. So what I'd like to do is open the nominations for chair. Uh, there's no need for a second. Uh, once the nominations are open, just make a nomination. I will then check to make sure that the person you nominate is
willing to take the position, and then we'll see how many nominations we have and then a vote. So nominations for chair are open. Do I have any nominations? Who's volunteering No, we're nominating you we
think you said. maintain your leadership position. So Ms. Werner, is that an official nomination for Ms. Donahue? And are you willing to take the position Do we have any other nominations? Seeing none
Nominations for chair are closed, and just to make it official, all in favor of Sherry Donohue being the chair, say aye, aye. Opposed Congratulations. Now, we'll have the nominations. We'll open the nominations for vice chair. Do we have any
nominations So is Liha currently the vice chair. Good question. Yes, she is. Yes. I would nominate Lia to be the, that'll that'll be good. All right. And she's not here, but
I don't know if I can do that because she's not here. So that's the case, ladies who would like to serve. Remember you only have to step into action if I don't come to the meeting. It's a great opportunity I think. I now the Nate Markham. All right, Margot,
would you be willing? All right, I'd love to. All right, thank you. Any other nominations? Seeing none, nominations for vice chair are closed to make it official. All those in favor of Margot Chavez as space chair.
Say aye. posed Congratulations. You know, normally when you don't come to a meeting, you get elected. I know that's, she's lucky the trend here. Lucky. At that point, I'll turn it over to you, Ms. Duddy. Thank you very much. Um, uh, I know that the mayor is here and
he would like to speak to us. So if it's not a problem, we'll let him go first and then we'll do the, go into the minutes and the other things. Of course, you can stay as long as you want. Thank you, Madam Chair. Well, good afternoon, everybody. It's been a while since I've been here and I thought I would
come by and show myself and say hello and thank you again for all your work, uh, on historic preservation efforts, and that includes our staff, uh, tremendous amount of work that has gone into this and so thank you. Um, I just I know we don't have any properties enrolled
yet, and I don't want you to be discouraged by that. I think um the public takes a long time to warm up the things sometimes and so um our city is known for it's a wonderful city. People are very passionate. They love
their city. but they're also very skeptical and risk averse, and so anything new that comes along people in Temple Terrace tend to look at it for a long time and, you know, is this good? this is changed and, and, uh, generally people don't like change, Temple Terrace people
really don't like change, and so, um, stay the course. We do appreciate what you're doing and we're gonna get there. It's taken us 50 years to get to the point we are. We've never been this far along before, um, we did the, finally got the COG designation, which was no easy
task, um, and we were going to get there, I think I suggest a good strategy, um, at the moment would be to while we're trying to get the big victories is to focus on some small ones. Let's see if we can double down on the historic markers if we
can find places that are eligible, um, and submit for them, and if that happens, make sure you let me know because um I can probably get that bought, and you know, sometimes they put in for markers and they've depleted the fund or whatever. So, uh, please make sure that
I'm dialed in on that because I can probably get that done, um, things along those lines, I know Jeannie has looked at several grants that so far we haven't found one that we meet, but we will, we'll keep scanning and looking for opportunities and get a few
smaller successes, which will just add credibility. So I, I just don't want you guys to get discouraged like, well, nobody's coming to the program. They will, they, they will. It will take a little bit of time Um, but I think once people see that the once one comes in and
sees that the sky didn't fall on these people and they're still still able to paint their home and, and, uh, I think that things will get better uh in terms of that. The property at 234 Bullard, the old house there, the Thomasino house. I
think that's that's a bittersweet story, but I think at the end of the day that's a good story. They were gonna renovate that building and keep it, um, they found, I don't know if you know this already, but the engineering survey they did on that building, they're not going to be able to do that.
It's too far gone. Um, and interestingly enough, in their engineering report I read, they determined way back in 1925 or whenever it was built, it really wasn't built properly. The tiles, the hollow tiles that they used were supposed to be put one way and they were
actually put the other way, so. it wasn't built right even from the start, and so that's part of the problem too, and so what they are going to do is they've laser scanned the building so they have things down to the millimeters of where everything is, and they're going to
reconstruct the building. uh, to make it exactly like it is, um, down to the millimeter. and so what you will see is much like Dave Bullock did at the law office across the street. That was basically almost the same scenarios and when he got
into that, he had found all kinds of stuff. Well, that building, as you know, is beautiful. I mean, that's probably one of the best examples of a restored or preserved uh historic building, and that's what's going to happen to the 2, 34 building. So it's a little disappointing. We were hoping to have it, you
know, it won't be eligible for because it'll be a new building, so it won't be eligible for the program, but we are going to get to keep an exact replica of of a historic building. So that's a good thing. So. bittersweet, but overall I
think good, positive, and the rest of that building, if you haven't seen the drawings, the rest of that pediatric clinic is beautiful and the architecture of theirs meant to complement the architecture of the historic buildings. So it will all look like it belongs,
so that's that's kind of cool. So right, so hopefully we can get ahead of this and let people know when it comes down. that there's Yeah, I know, I know. I'm hoping that they'll do that between 2 and 3 in the morning on a, you know, Thursday night or something,
but, uh, yeah, I know, I know we will, um, hopefully our marketing folks will get ahead of that and kind of explain to people on on the same footprint on, yeah, same place, same building, same look, so, yep yep, so so anyway, I don't
really have much to tell you other than that, I just wanted to come and say thank you for everything you do for us. I'm happy to answer any questions if you have any, or questions? I'm just out of curiosity, are they going to be able to reuse any of the materials from the old building. It's a good
question. I don't know the answer to that. I can answer that. Yeah, OK. Yeah, I don't know. That's a good question. Good evening, board, uh, Marissa Robinson with Community Development. So they are looking at, um some of the tiles, they have an inventory
of what they want to try to put into the new building, but it won't be until they really start taking it out. They're not sure if they're going to be able to use them or not, but they do have a list of things that they are going to try to repurpose into the new building and actually they're going so
far as to um comply with the uh National Park Service, the Secretary of Interior Standards for reconstruction. So that's one of the benefits of having it laser scanned and getting down to that fine detail that they will be able to recreate it almost exactly as it was. That's great, yeah. So, and
actually I think I just got an email from them not too long ago that they laser scanned it again just to make sure that they have all the details that they need. to recreate it, so yeah. that's impressive. Yeah laser twice. Yes, I think
that's the, that's the goal. I, I just want to tell you that in spite of the sometimes difficult um, you know, you if you're on Facebook, it looks like the sky is falling every day. Your city is doing very, very well. I, in spite of um a
handful of people that want to claim that we're not The city's doing financially good. Um, uh, those at the state level have, have, and I'm, I'm pushing back on this a little bit. Keep in mind, I am a Republican, so I'm not talking, this is not like I'm talking against the other party or something. Um, there's
been a lot of talk about property taxes, you know, and they show you the graph of since 2020 and 2026, the line have our revenues increasing. That's true but what we did, um I did this before I went to Tallahassee for the legislative session was I put on, they
don't show you the rest of the story, so they show you one line and that's property tax revenue. And our line matches their line we've increased it about the state average. However, I put, um 25 different
lines on there and I pieced out wages, wages and benefits for employees and guess what? That line is the exact slope right? So our expenses and wages and benefits are tracking the revenue. Then I put on their um
police and fire operating expenses and guess what that line tracks exactly. I put on there, um, what did I put, vehicles, I think, fire trucks, ambulances, garbage trucks, guess what, exactly tracks. I put insurance on there and that
line is even steeper. So insurance has gone up even faster than the revenue increase, and so, I, no, I don't know if that's all over the state. I can only speak for Temple Terrace, but there are no gold plated faucets here, um, we are doing some building renovations that are long
overdue. This is a 50 year old building, and we are not going anywhere. This building is, we're not, don't have any plans for a new city hall at all. So if we're going to stay in the building, we need to make it up to modern standards, and ADA compliance, if you noticed this
room that we're in and that back conference room, they're not ADA compliant. Um, we need to make them ADA compliant. The clerk's office is due for some renovations, a legal suite and the clerk's office. We're doing some, uh, personnel sharing of
our staff. to get those two um offices to work together. They're sharing staff like Lisa does both. She works for Ernie and for and for Linda. So that space is going to be renovated also, um, to, to ensure ADA compliance and also give us
some conference room space because we don't have that. We don't currently have it budgeted to do this room, but we're gonna try to do that in FY 27 budget to make this ADA compliant. So, um, there's a lot going on. There's 2 new
buildings under construction. There's a public safety complex on the horizon. It's up for a bond referendum. Um, but I do want to tell you that everything we have going on is connected to everything else. I like to think we're maybe a rare example of a government that's actually planning for
growth and planning for 10 years ahead, 20 years ahead, um, the new ERP system is the enterprise system that we have coming in will help facilitate um speeding up some of our services and the reliability of our services for our residents.
The Public safety complex, you'll hear more about from the city manager and police chief and the fire chief, but that's, that's a strategic decision to help us be able to annex the 301, the late industrial in the warehouse complexes because
they're tax-heavy and service light, and the idea there is that the additional tax revenues from those commercial, um, light industrial businesses will help provide, take some of the relief off of a residential taxpayers. and so um, there's a,
there's a plan for all of these initiatives. They're not just like, hey, let's go build a utility building or let's build an EOC at the fire station or you know, let's renovate utility billing all of these things work together. Um, we have more projects underway in the city, uh, right now than we
have ever had in the history of the city uh, and there's more coming And so, uh, we have some challenges, you know, about the water and the PFAS issue. We don't have any choice but to fix that, and we should fix it. We don't want that stuff in our water anyway. Um, there's a
plan coming before council on May 19th and then um the week after that, there'll be a town hall meeting to open it up to the public. You you're welcome to come ask questions and learn what we know. Um, the solution will be implemented in plenty of time. The the law changes in
2031. We'll have that solution in place before then. It will be expensive. I can tell you that's gonna be astronomically expensive. but that will have nothing to do with your taxes, that will be paid by the water bills. right? And so remember
that we have about 31, 32,000 water accounts. um, or water system extends outside of the city, so some of the people outside of the city will be burdening, they'll be sharing that burden as well. So that won't fall completely on us, um.
so, a lot of money being spent, yes, um, the two buildings that are under construction are both one's federally funded, one is state funded. So that's having uh very little impact on our taxes because we got money from the feds for one building and money from the state for the
other one, so. um, so contrary to the rumors, um, we actually have a plan and I know it's hard to have confidence in elected officials, but in our city manager's terrific, and he's included in this, but we actually do have a plan. We are moving the city forward, but
it's it is well thought out, it's well calculated, it's strategic, it's not whack a mole management, um, and I'm very proud of what our city manager and our staff have been able to do and continue to do. We've got the best leadership team of any city that I know of,
and I know a lot of mayors across the state and, and I think we're the envy of most of them. I say we got the best utility guy. We have the best HR guy, we have the best code enforcement guy. We've got we've got rock stars, and we don't lose them anymore. right? We used to be a training ground they'd go to Tampa, they'd
leave, they'd go to Hillsborough County. Now we're taking people from other places. Uh, we recruited Linda from Kansas. I mean, we've gone all over the country to get the right talent, and we've been very successful, so that's mostly Carlos and Tony, our HR director, have been responsible
for that, but so you live in a great city. It's being very well run and this is not a, this is not me. This is mostly Carlos and a, and a mostly really good council that has been supportive of Carlos's efforts and so. so if you see
any of these people, you should thank them. They're doing a very good job with your tax money, and we are really setting the city up for the next 100 years. OK. And if you need anything or you have any questions, please, please, please call me. Don't go on
Facebook to get your answers because just you can call Sherry. She knows more than I do. You can call Ernie, you can call Linda. I mean, you, there's 100 people here you can call and everybody will get you the information, so. Well, we appreciate very much you coming to us. I'm glad I was very like
you said, sad to hear that the building was not going to be restored, but I, you know, people talk to us about these things and it's really nice that we've now been educated that we can give a response as to what what happened and
probably going to happen. Brussa's Thunder, I think she was probably going to tell you about that. Well, I would usually, yes, I would always say, let me send you Marissa Robin, but you know, it, it helps to be able to begin the conversation with this is what I know and that's very helpful
and we, I do really appreciate that, and I don't know about the rest of the board, but I know that I live in a fantastic city, and I'm gonna guess they would say the same thing, but I'll let them speak for themselves. But the city now from the days that you first got on council. it's not the
same. No, it is not. This is a, this is a accredited reputable politically relevant city that is looked at by other cities. This is not, uh, I'm not criticizing our predecessors, but we've really dragged the place into the 21st century, so
when I first got on council, they said, we're gonna take you on a tour and I said, oh no, I oh this is the tour you have not been on, and my eyes were, I was like a child, saucerized. I say, I can't believe you're
using parts from this piece of equipment to fix this piece of equipment until it quits and then this one's just, you know, I mean it was a way to keep taxes low, but as we all realize now, investment is what makes it all work. Well, you know, the taxes too. The other thing that I told the senators
and reps when I was up in Tallahassee, it was like, look, you're, you're painting us all with the same brush. We haven't raised Milli rate in 9 years. We've reduced the military rate 3 times since 2016. 3 times. Um, now, it's not as low as I wish it were. um, and I can't promise that we're going to be
able to stay on that track forever. I mean, you, you know how you're everything you buy is the prices are going crazy, so. imagine what it costs to fill up a dump truck or a garbage truck with diesel, you know, versus two years ago. So, you know, we buy stuff just
like you buy stuff, so. Yeah. but Well, thank you, thank you for having me. Appreciate it and thank you again for all you do for us. Appreciate it. We wouldn't have this historic preservation if it wasn't for this group. So, thank you. Good
night. We'll see you on TV or in Publix wherever we go. Well, that was a nice way to start our meeting, um, so we'll get back to the order of business and uh everyone received a copy
of the minutes. Are there any corrections or errors or additions? No Hearing none, uh, I'm, I usually tend to just have you vote yes or no, because I feel like that's, I understand I can say, oh, I didn't hear anything, we'll
just approve them as as presented, but um, do I have a motion to approve the minutes as presented. Motion to approve. And we have a motion on a 2nd Yeah, all in favor say aye, aye, any opposed? OK, thank you so much and thank you for those
minutes. Um, you know, we know we're doing it and then we read it, we're like, oh, we got a lot done that day. Yes, OK, so now we have discussion and I believe I'm going to, let's see who gets to start this? I think it must be you, Miss Barlow. So,
the next thing on our agenda, good evening. I'm Jeannie Barlow, executive Office, uh we have, uh, I was so last night's council meeting, we had uh the appointment of two alternate alternate board members and
since it was last night, I know it was a little bit. rushed, so we did send out the notification to these two individuals that they were nominated to be on the board, and, uh, I welcome their attendance at tonight's meeting,
but unfortunately it was short notice and neither one could make it, but we have Meredith Abel who is our newest alternate, and Sharon Gaskin and Meredith is very well known, served on the council, um, and she's now works as a planner
for a consulting firm and she's very excited to join us as well as Sharon Gaskin, who had, uh, 8 years on the historical advisory Committee for the county, and she also served on the Centennial Committee, so I
think there'll be a great addition to the board and maybe they'll be able to join us at our next meeting. So, I do have a question for you, Ernie. When we started, um, we started with members and alternates, and so we were all given the same training at the same time, um,
will you be able to offer that to these two? Absolutely. In fact, uh, one of the things that was a council priority is to create a a training program, you know, like the sunshine Law and all that and then we'll have it recorded and then that
way it'll be available for everybody. OK, great. OK, great So OK, great. OK, great So, so you will arrange for that with them? OK. All right. I'll work with I'll? OK. All right. I'll work with you and Marissa Thank you very much OK So moving on to the next item of business
under discussion is uh certified local government opportunities, and as the mayor touched upon um we are, there are grants that are available to us, uh, several categories. The first is the small matching
grant, which is up to $50,000 but as a certified local government, it's a matching grant, but because we are a CLG, we do not have to provide the match, so it's $50,000 for us if we can figure out a project that we would like to apply for,
so there are specific categories you have to, um, that are eligible and they are survey planning national register nominations, Wayfinding, or state historical markers. So for wayfinding I had to figure out what that
meant and it actually means finding your way. So it's designing, placing imp implementing navigation tools for like sites, maps, digital aids for primarily historic districts. So the other category is special category
grants is up to $1 million and that a certain type of star preservations that are eligible include development, archaeological research, museum exhibit, and acquisition. So I've been looking at the categories under small matching
mat, grants because the submission period opened on April 1st, and it closes at the end of May. I think actually June 1st it closes, so we are now in the submission period. So, uh, I know we had talked about, and I know at the staff
level we talked about updating our 1988 historic resource surveys, which is primarily about our Mediterranean revivals, or 192 0 s structures And the last one that was done was done in 1988. So I reached out to several uh resource
management firms. to get an idea didn't think it would be locked my bad. No I love Lisa.
Welcome. Thanks to me. Mhm kiss me. Hi, I was just, just to bring you up to speed. I'm just talking about the grants that
are possible for us to um apply for a small matching grant that would give us pretty much $50,000 which we as a certified local government, we would not have to match. So, um, I know we did the 1988 survey on the Mediterranean revival, so I
reached out to several research management firms to see if this was something that was possible with $50,000 and I heard back from one, and yes indeed they could do up to 75 properties for within that that cost range,
so, um, with your support, I would like to pursue that and apply for an update, a grant to update our 1988. Historic resource survey, and you said this is again it's focusing on the mid-centuries? No, this would be our Mediterranean Mediterranean rivals, yes.
terrible. Can you remind me how many properties there are that need the survey. In this survey that we have now, there are only like 50 to 55. So there are some that are outside of
the survey, so we don't really understand how that worked back in 1988 because there are several, at least that we've identified that are not included in the survey. So this would be all encompassing of
all the 1920s for whatever reason why some were left out, we don't know, but we have up to 75, and I don't think that we would reach that. No, I don't I don't think so either, especially because like we, we would like to get more
information on the ones that weren't included in the 1988 survey, but because there are other buildings that were included in the 88 survey that have since been demolished, like, obviously we don't need to update those, uh, master site files as of now, maybe later we could look into
providing more information on those buildings, but right now, um, getting the information on the existing, uh, Mediterranean revival. uh, structures that are still remaining is more important. So we would like to focus on those. So what information do we actually get
out of the survey? Oh, construction date, architect, um, who, um, the original owner of the house was. um, they'll they'll figure out the original footprint, um, they'll describe the site, um, and they'll
provide any, uh, historic information that applies to that house, so a lot of ours are. you know, reference the, uh, 1920s floater land boom, um, but others, you know, talk about this as, you know, one of the original seven houses that was developed for the country
club, and so it, it kind of depends on the structure, like what information you get, so. OK, just, I just wondered. Yeah. um I'm forgetting now if this is accurate or not, but some of the houses came with an orange
grove. Is that correct? So I believe you were given the option to purchase a plot of the orange grove. So not everybody purchased a plot, but you were, you could purchase a plot that you said that was your orange orange girl. OK, but you never worked it. They
be able to find out through the survey, which parcel of land adjacent to the structure would have been that orange grove or not? Was it actually adjacent to their. No, it was all part of the bigger growth it's part of the big orange grove. So it
wasn't necessary, it wasn't right next to a timeshare. Yeah. Your house was here, but your orange grove was over there, so. But we could potentially find that information out too. or if the owner opted to purchase the
grove. along with the, it depends on what records they find. OK, it's a possibility. It could. OK We could always mention that and put that request in. I think that would
be nice. Yeah. but if, if you are amenable to this, it would be nice to have a motion to support this project. I, I moved to support it. Well, I'll second that. Amen. All right, so we have a motion on the
floor to accept the moving forward with the survey and a second Any other discussion No Hearing none, must call for the vote. All in favor say aye aye. Any opposed OK, you have a new
project. Hey, thank you. Um, I do appreciate your support. Thank you very much. Uh so you have looked at the application and it speaks in English, right? I mean, I, I've done some grants and sometimes you're like, what are they asking for? OK, so you feel confident. We
feel confident in your ability, so, uh, I will speak for the board on that. Thank you Uh, moving on to other uh certified local government opportunities. I know at the last, I believe it was the workshop that um.
you asked about online training and uh. educational pamphlets. and perhaps workshops. I did send an email to um the historic office and. I told
them they weren't interested in workshops and educational pamphlets, unfortunately they have no physical pamphlets to provide to us, but I did get the response that uh supposedly they're coming to our community in the near future, and it's a
priority for their office to train historic preservation Board members shortly after certification. So I don't know it shortly thereafter means since it's been a while, but, uh, we can look forward to a visit from the state at some point to offer a workshop to
help us. understand the whole sort of local government training process. and I think the online webinars, um, every time they have something, I will pass it on to you. I know we had one several months ago
that um. you know, was very, very interesting, so yes, um, I will keep a watch out for anything else that comes my way, and be sure to forward it to you all. Seems like you have another one on the calendar. Yeah, on the twenty-ninth. Yeah,
so does everybody have that or do you? Yes, OK. Mhm. And I think that's it for that item. Does anybody have any questions Well, I guess the ways to
encourage historic preservation interest. is something that ' ll I'll let OK all right. She has the archivist. Robinson, would you please, because I wanna make sure that we understand there had been comment that we weren't
encouraging people to sign up and it's my understanding that we are not allowed to recruit. So if I'm wrong, please tell me that, and we'll start talking to people, but if I'm right now
not comfortable answering to what extent you can recruit, but I will be happy to look, look that up and. either uh, I'll certainly tell you at the next meeting that's fine. That's fine. Well, thank you, thank you, Ms. Barlow. as
always full of good information. OK, so I wanted to give you guys an update on the historic archiving process that we've been doing. We did, um, take on two interns from USF. They are both history majors. I believe one is graduating in the spring and another one and not until
December, but they are both, um, pursuing master's program in library science for archiving, so they are a great fit for this project. So far they have, um, cataloged 360 items that we have. And we still have quite a
few more boxes and then our larger architectural pieces to still. catalog Um, we are looking into software. We were trying to see if the library's software could be used for this project, the library said it
probably isn't the best fit, so, um, our interns researched quite a few programs, um, and we will start looking into them and demoing them and see which one we think is the best fit for us. Um, and I'm also, um, in the process of buying some
supplies to properly archive. um, everything that we have. A lot of it is paper documents, uh, photographs, so we want to be sure those are all put in the correct storage. so they're no, they're not further damaged. So, and we do have a few things that we might need to look on,
um. sending off to conservator. to repair and stuff. We have bonds. from the 19th, I mean, they're, they're tiny tiny little pieces of paper. Um, they're not in the best shape, but if we can send them to a conservator, um, and have them
fixed up and hopefully they'll last us even longer, so. Yeah, I don't know about the other members, but I, I, people drop off boxes of stuff at my house. Just feel free to eat. If you find anything, we have forms. You can fill out the form. Feel free to drop them off in the
permit office and they'll get them upstairs to me and we're, yeah, we're just constantly taking in boxes and they're just going. through them, but we have a whole, a whole storage unit full of stuff. but they you do want to have a heads up as to what the
reference is from the person correct? Yeah, so some of the donations we've got, if we have any questions, we go back to that, uh, the person who has donated and either clarify or or whatever, we did get a, uh, a pie, two pie tins. Right that
have no historic value, but somebody donated them to this person who then donated to us and they were like, well, they were just old and I'm like, well, they don't. they don't have any historic values, so yeah, but yeah, we, we've gotten some interesting things, so and we're we're going
through them and what do you do with those items? that don't have historic value. Well, these were py tins from the early 90s that were just in a like a Marie calendar, like, you know, like a pie you would buy from the frozen food section. So, um, don't tell me
the 90s have become arc. No, no, so we did um get rid of those because they're. they don't have won any historic value. They probably never will, especially pertaining to temple tears. Yeah, so you just dispose dispose of them. OK.
Put them on the, it's free. Yeah. But by nothing nothing. Yeah, but even things that we, you know, we're like, we're not too sure we do, we keep them. so. Have you given any thought
to a partnership with the USF Library Systems for archiving. It's something that we, we're on our list to look into. Are are you referring to the special collections. Yes, that's, that's one avenue, um.
but there are also able to work on digitization, um, they can host entire digital collections for you, um, without having to invest in software. um and of
course it's they're part of our community and um it's part of their mission. to make sure that they probably have a um a front facing part of that that people then can. research. Yes,
OK. And they've got um ongoing projects uh with the city of Tampa. um, archiving and um oral histories, which I know is an interest um so if you
haven't considered it yet. I think it's worth looking into explore those options, yeah. Yeah, Temple Terrace Garden Club has entered an agreement with them because we had, you know, the club is 80 years old, so that means their scrapbooks were paper thin, you know, and
those photographs weren't going to last much longer and newspaper clippings because back then anything that Garden Club did made it into the newspaper, you know. So, and it's, it's really been nice to know that somebody is taking care of them and you know. so.
So that's the update I have on that. So they're doing a great job, um, even, um, Ronnya Powell from the History Center came over and we met with him and we showed him that the work that they have done, and he said that that you were doing a great job, so we definitely got two really great interns for this. That's an important
opinion to have. Yeah, very important. It's a nice blessing. He knows what he's talking about. Well, thank you very much. Any other questions? No? Miss Lisa, you, you don't have anything to, to, uh, to give us like, you know, jars or jelly
or stuff like that, you know, from your collection. I, I, I have 22 things that I'm going to give that I have gotten that I'm gonna bring. but yes I can't tell you what they are because I don't know what they
are. so that's very possible. but they don't look like pie pains there's no one to ask, so, yeah, we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. I know you will let them figure it out, right, right. Well, thank you very much. Uh, let's see here,
any specific agenda items for the next meeting? Anyone have any ideas or any questions? to add? It's not specific. Oh, am I interrupting you? There's one more item on the agenda, Madam Chair. Pardon? There's one more item on the agenda. Oh. Yeah.
Oh, I skipped over. I did was, I don't know which, oh, I'll get the D, yes, that's the one I was looking for, yes, sorry. I prepared some home. you to
pursue any of these. ideas I did a little research on what
other communities are doing to encourage historic preservation and put together a list of 8 possible options that we have. if anything jumps out at you as a possibility, we would be glad
to look into it Once you do your historical survey. um, of all the properties, then you shall have you should have enough information to help put together a pamphlet or some
information on those homes that would encourage interest in the properties? even, even if you don't get their owners to participate it would certainly encourage others to become
interested. just to I tell Marissa wrote me in. So number 8 is um National Historic Preservation Month, which is May. So we are putting a
proclamation on the agenda on the May 5th meeting. Uh, we would welcome you all to come to that meeting to receive the proclamation. I can be there OK
But anyone else who can join us, please do so. I mean, that, that's a big night. We, the people from the women's club, that's banana pudding. That's banana pudding night, so. Oh, definitely. They will be serving it, by the way. Yeah. I think you'll have a fairly good
number of people there OK, good Well, I, I, I think I agree with uh Ms. Werner that once we have the survey, we, we may know, but we don't know how long that will take. How long will that take? So I don't want
to wait a year to begin talking to people about what we're doing um. what are the what it's not, what are the chances, but what do you think there's an opportunity for us to have
something on the cities, you know, every once in a while. There are different things obviously parks and rec has lots of information to tell people, but lately the water restrictions, the, you know, those are reminders about following the rules for that
and code compliance has different things that they say to people, don't forget, you know, you shouldn't do this or you need to do this before you build a fence or what have you. Is there anything that we could do? in this regard? Anything that we could say. I mean, I
don't wanna just say, hey, we're here, come check us out. I mean it needs to be something, some bit of. interesting tidbit I love the the first two simplifying the process and myths versus facts because even though we had those, we've had
how many workshops and people say, oh, I hear it, I understand it, and then they leave and say, hm. Well, we could combine those two and perhaps put something on the website that addresses. that, you know, step by step process
simplify it and then put something myths versus facts because there is misinformation out there about. what exactly happens when you. become part of the program, um. so. you know, there are a lot of things that that if you were in the
program, you could do at the administrative level and you wouldn't need to come to the board. I mean, it's just you know, pink color, stuff like that. You could get that done at staff level. So, um, we could also mention that. you
know, helpful. Mhm. helpful information. Number 5 would go well with 1 and 2 in that information on your website. Number 5 is share testimonials from property owners, from other CLGs who support their
programs. Yep, yes I think the myths versus facts, um, or dispelling, you know, common misconceptions about the program is probably the most important right now. Um, and I
might frame it like a frequently asked questions where the myth is a question and the response is sort of the, the fact we can and you could even maybe. social media personnel could help. put
together a series of posts, um, during national historic Preservation Month that just highlights those questions and maybe a few facts about the program, getting the CLG um because I'm thinking the
website's a great resource, but not everybody even, you know, really goes to the website unless they're directed, but a lot of people are on Facebook and Instagram. Maybe you can do a video that has uh a how-to
with a myths versus facts, informational. Yeah Yes. Yeah, I, I think it, it needs to be simpler, simplified as much as possible. Even the people who don't live in historic houses are interested in historic
houses. so it doesn't hurt for everybody to. hear the message and maybe they'll say to somebody, you know, my neighbor. you know, maybe we'll begin to get people to help us out here.
So nothing like giving you a bunch of work to do. but I don't think you listed something that you absolutely couldn't do, yeah, on this good list. I'm wondering if 7 could
be modified slightly, um, 7 is host of public meeting on historic preservation, yeah, so our, our amazing public library branch right here does all sorts of evening kind of talks, um, just for public interest,
things like birding and, you know, um, backyard botany. I'm wondering if maybe putting together some kind of casual, informal talk about historic preservation and then providing
more specific information about this program and our city's CLG sort of towards the end of that talk, um, might be a less um or just a more like a friendlier,
uh, more relaxed way, then. Is that a town hall, than a town hall or an official public meeting. Yeah. because, you know, even the night that we were. the last time we had to go before council, there was
still questions about you know, about the, the area and turning the golf course into a historic. I mean, all those things were just and so every time somebody says that on live TV it just starts the conversation again
about how or maybe I didn't, uh maybe I didn't understand. Maybe I don't understand what's gonna happen if I do this to my house or maybe I am gonna get caught up in that, and I don't want to be cut, you know, I mean, it it just definitely so, so I think you're probably right. Something that's just a we're having this, you know,
last week we talked about bees in the garden, and this week we're talking about to dispel that, I mean, being on the national register does not impact neighboring properties, it does not have any control. There's no regulation on being on the national register. It's,
it's an honor to be on the register national register, but there is no local controls that are implemented. Right. And I think that's a great topic for for discussion or presentation. We've just been granted our city has been granted this
incredible honor, and here's what this means, and you know, showing some really amazing photographs then and now. I mean, a lot of people would be interested in coming to the
library and um seeing their city change over time and then you get the opportunity to dispel some of those myths and just, you know, educate the public more broadly. what is it what is it they say you have to
tell somebody something, is it 7 or 9 times and in different ways before it sinks in and we, I know you've told this story before, so we've had several workshops, several town hall meetings, but maybe this is just a new twist and much more
relaxed. continuing education. Yeah. Well, we like where you're going here. I like where you're going any other sounds to me from the comments that we agree that this is the right step and maybe putting some of them together, make it a little.
easier to do, but um, where, where do we need to go from here? Just turn you loose, say, come back and tell us what you came up with. But it's working out. a OK. All right. Any other
questions? Any other comments you see something that she didn't ask and maybe might have a I don't know where this goes. OK, yeah. OK. But at a previous meeting, someone mentioned that Liz Byrd had done some work on the historic preservation. with
the society and, and with this group and I ran into her and told her that her name came up. and uh she was interested in doing something with those oral histories. But she said, we, you know, we did all this work, we collected all these oral
oral histories that are supposed to be put up online, but nothing ever happened. Mm She also offered to come and meet with the uh this committee, this board, um, to discuss anything like that. Liz Byrd is
an anthropologist or a former anthropology, um, professor from the University of South Florida. So she did, um, she conducted oral histories of Templeta's residents. Yes, about 10 of them. OK It was, it
was the uh preservation, uh, society, you know, the one that's kind of defunct so they may have and there's there, there were um CDs that people, uh, expounded on maybe
something that they that they had done at their own house or or in the actual happenings at Temple Terrace. but I don't have, I, the only thing I have
is um one small little CD that says something about uh this is what we're going to do, but I have none of the other You don't have any of the interviews? No, uh-huh. Well, did she say where those She doesn't know where they are.
She doesn't know where they are either, where they are, and finally get them upload up there, right. Does she remember who she worked with? I don't know, but it sounds like it might be worthwhile for her to
come and talk to us. or talk to you you guys you talked to her first to find out, you know. before you bring her here and then we have to go, we have to wait for that to happen and if you can reach out to her and find out who did she work with
and oh I know, well, I remember Grant was, he was one of, he was one of them and, and, um, fell so I could probably find out, you know, some other people that she might have worked with and who somebody
because somebody put it together. you know, as far as the being able to have everybody sit and talk. There were 10 of them. Centennial committee that we wanted to do oral histories and no one
mentioned that I, I, because I knew those existed. I thought that we were just going to add on to those. Right. But if nobody knows where they are, maybe. you can make a, but on all points bulletin, look in
every drawer out where that is every drawer, right? Yeah. Cause there has been a huge change in um personnel, but maybe library looking the library. Would you say the 80s this was done, the 90s. Um I'm
trying to think of one where I, I would say that the 90 late 90s. All right. Well, that's you mentioned the library was mentioned that that's possible. that somebody there has, you know, that they're, they were
turned into them. Do you have Ms. Bird's, Doctor Bird's, uh, information? Can you get that to them? Do you have it? Do you have I don't have anything. Yeah. Yeah. Can you, could you give that too staff so that
they can reach out to her and have that conversation. I mean, I, I'm sure she would be very interesting to hear. what she has to say. I would love to hear what she has to say I just don't, I just don't want to wait for our next meeting for someone to reach out to her, you're right. Um-hum. Well, my
reaction was, you know, let's not start something brand new when we have this other thing, you know, that wasn't preserved, you know, we're, we're all about preservation, but you know, a lot of effort went into that project, and it seems like it was a preserved So let's not
make that mistake again. Everything just went away, fall falls apart. Well, it depends on what they put it on. It's not good. Yeah, when how they did it, yeah. You said it was a CD? They were CDs. I wonder if
definitely has a copy potentially it's possible if he was part of that group. Yeah yeah, yeah, if he can find old pie plates, he can find CDs. We should ask. I mean, you know,
he's been very agreeable. Oh yeah, to answering any questions anybody had, so. we just need to once again reach out to Grant, the keeper of most of the secrets. If he doesn't know what Litha does, so. but. I don't what we can
find out, OK. Thank you for bringing that up. That's very interesting. Definitely, I mean, there are lots of things that we all wish had been preserved, you know, and haven't, and then you're looking back, you're
like, well, why didn't they recognize the importance of this, you know, but. you know. OK, anything else on, on this, anyone that we're making an an action item here or are we just
saying go back, go see what you can do, bring it back. That sound good You heard what everyone said, so, OK, thank you, Jeanie, that's very nice of you OK, now, how about the next meeting? So I guess the next meeting we should decide
when is the next meeting. as well as if there are any agenda items that you specifically want. Obviously we would like to know about this um presentation you just made about the how to you know,
encourage historic preservation in our community and then also um about Doctor Bird's work, if we can, whatever you can find out about that. and Mr. Mueller, will you you're just going to
reach out to the new alternates separate from this meeting and have a training for them. Yes, that was my plan to see when they could come in, um, like say, and then once, uh, hopefully I can get it recorded at some point and then it'll be
available for refresher for everybody. OK. All right. And do you have anything that you think we should add to the agenda? I was thinking about that. I wasn't coming up with anything specific other than you gave me the uh assignment uh for the sport's ability to recruit property owners into
the program. Yes, please. OK Got all that The next meeting When she when. So we were looking at the calendar the next we're in the 3rd quarter right now, so we need to do it
for the, no. July, August, yes, is when we need to do the next meeting. So because of the summer holiday and getting back to school, we were thinking maybe September would probably be the best. That would be the 23? Twenty4th, no, Wednesday,
you're right, 23rd. OK. Is anyone did anyone see, I can see my calendar that far out and right now it's looking clear. It's OK to me. Well, you'll be busy in the morning and the afternoon. Yes, yes. I
saw that, yes, caught that one,? OK, so September 23rd. and we
um we should definitely encourage the alternates to come. Yeah. To the meetings, uh, if at all possible. I mean, Janine stepped right in because she had been coming to the meetings and that was very helpful. Otherwise, we'll, we'll stumble along just a
little bit, so I know that um these meetings are on YouTube, is that right? OK, so they could also follow along with that, but we need to remind them that that is definitely something we encourage, so anything else to go before the sport? Hearing none, I consider
this meeting. adjourned.