Ali press and posted on the bolden board in the lobby of the municipal sector. The notice of this special budget meeting resolution 26-115 has been sent to the record suburbanite northern valley news has been posted on the bulletin board of the lobby of the
municipal center of our website. >> All right. The first order of uh item to the flag. >> Salute to the flag. >> I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. >> It's public comment time. A total of 15 minutes is allocated for this purpose. Citizens are welcome to address the M
council on any governmental item of concern to them whether or not it is scheduled on the agenda below. Citizens must give give their names when recognized to speak. Large groups are urged to select someone to represent them. Public is advised that these
meetings are recorded and are subject to the open public record. Are there any members of the public here who look like they're interested in speaking? >> See no hands, mayor. >> Is there anyone online who looks like they might be interested in speaking? Say no hands. >> Okay. So, we're gonna close the uh public comment section. Pardon me. You
see somebody? >> No. Why don't you be here? >> And there's three council members and myself. So, good question. But yeah, we'll have a qu. >> All right. Uh departmental reviews
administrator. Go ahead. Take it away. >> All right. So, we have uh the I guess the peak can now in front of you. I don't know. We want to go through anything in particular. If you have any questions with any particular department that we
could run to do that start high level of where we are with our summary of municipal income. >> I guess you want to start with your high level. >> All right. So if you go to the page that was just handed out as a substitute for
the revenue summary. Okay, >> you got me. >> It's good strategy, right? High five. >> Okay. >> All right. So, um, on the revenue side,
state sources, uh, has us getting slightly less from the state government than we did in 2025. Um and then on the municipal sources, uh we have appropriated um about 53% of our
fund balance uh to support this budget. So we're appropriating $3,175,000 on fund balance. Uh and we did have other categories of fees and uh taxes and grants. Uh which brings us a total
of uh municipal funds of 7 million7 655 which again is just slightly lower than 2025 and not lower in 2025. As you'll notice at the top we appropriated 3.569
million in fund balance in 2025. So that's a nice shift if you will of appropriating less fund balance in this year. Um this brings us to cost to operate to borrow is 38,8474
and the average per home tax increase would be 3.5% which is uh about in our inflation and less than what the school tax is. Is the school tax%
>> tax like three? >> I think the school tax is going to be over three. >> Yeah, something like that. Yeah. >> So then again, we're really look at all the money that we bring on taxes putting 8% taxes per house. >> No, no, no, no. >> It's a weighted effort, >> right?
>> So the municipality, let me be absolutely clear. The municipality is actually on a relative basis decreasing >> decreasing the tax that this the municipal budget >> percentage will be lower. >> Yes.
>> Than what our residents will be getting. The school taxes will be higher on a percentage term than where we are. Amazing what this team has been able to accomplish. Thank you Susan Omar. >> This is crazy. Like crazy. Awesome. >> We're spending lots of care going up
with obviously all the rich services that are trying to improve. Let me try again. With health care going up, >> we have been able to keep a lower number lower than last year. >> Yeah. >> Like it's crazy. The rate is actually lower than last year. >> Yeah. The board of ed has 600 employees.
So the health care the health care is is killing them. back on the additional surplus for future shortfalls on the state government side. >> The surplus we allocated was about 53%. We're in very good shape. I actually was
able to lower what I had originally wanted to >> to allocate which is a lot less than last year. >> So what I did was I moved some we had more surpluses. I uh put more money in our reserves for items that I think
we're going to need >> for the future. I increased our terminal I mean our payroll adjustment reserves for pension um allocations. >> I increased our storm trust and uh there was one other item that I I haven't
spoken about. >> I mean are we >> but I took 400,000 out of surplus and funded in reserves and and put it aside. So while you still had some 53% >> that seems because as we discussed you know both healthcare and less money
coming to us for you know education and everything else I want to make sure next year we are in a public contract and healthare we are that basically we can cover some of that so I just want to anticipate that additional spending for the next two years
>> so the other 100,000 is terminal leave and that's because we have retirements coming up or terminal So that was fun allocation. >> I mean we are hoping to fill this position. >> Yeah. But new people coming in don't get
terminally >> right. >> But we have to pay it off with an existing employees. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's interesting with the healthcare when when I talked to the superintendent other mayors every we're all faced with the same thing. We're all
with the state health plan. We're spending more in benefits than we are paying in premiums. And so no private company wants any of us. >> But I would say that they didn't do some of the things that we did >> that and that that we hear like that
whole this such a difference cards making a big difference >> which was significant achievement. is um to go to the high deductible plan with the difference card um our insurance would have went up an additional $300,000. So then you would be looking
at you know an higher tax increase just with that 300 >> and that's why I'm asking the questions you know just in case it changes future we have that we're good we're good if you say we're good we're good >> wow go Susan
>> well at I was just at a conference and all the CFOs there were scramble to try to get their rates down. Some of them are looking at trying to get 9% tax rate increase down. >> I know it's incredible, Mr. Mayor. I mean, I know you know the other burrows better, like Bergen Field, but do you know some of the other surrounding town?
>> Some of these people are closing in on close to a 10% tax increase. They have no way out. >> Which is even crazier because if you're saying what you're saying is the state is saving more money and they're still going to be twice our tax. They don't have the property tax.
>> Well, Sen is fortunate. So, like when you look at the assessed valuations, the third line from the bottom, right? They've gone up $30 million in the past year and the year before that. What does that math? Another $25 million. So, that's So, someone builds takes down an
old home, builds a brand new house, and then the taxes become triple without putting all new kids in the school system. So, we get that. We get those added bump of dollars that a lot of communities don't get.
>> Well, yeah. Right. I mean, Right. But, but but we have the from the revenue side, we get those added bumps here that a lot of communities unfortunately don't have that opportunity. >> Well, I am seeing some seeing some new construction when I drive around. >> Yeah. Yeah, it is good. It's very good.
Um this >> one of the things one of the things for the council to consider you'll see uh line 17 under B your cell tower rent >> at $143,000 and that is going down over
the last couple of years uh but you know it fluctuates because you said 165 >> that well last year was 165 right so this year >> um we're going out to bid now for a new lease uh term for the cell towers. Um I
did receive a uh sort of a cold um uh email from a company interested in buying the cell tower. Um now buying a real property by buying the cell tower, they offered $3 million. So there was a whole process we have to go through. We have to go out bid and you can set
minimum bids. Um but my thought is is that we're going to be putting this out big. maybe the other ways for sale and for lease because if you got that $3 million in return up front, it would take you, you
know, a year or so to get that $3 million for the cell tower rent >> and and get interesting that. >> So, so they would buy the cell tower, but we would keep the land and lease the land to them annually. Yes. >> At some particular rate service >> and we wouldn't have any we wouldn't
have any maintenance on the cell tower >> and we would keep the land. >> Yes. That's something worth considering. I mean, for the council to consider >> because I don't want to go to like T-Mobile where like other towns next we're at like T-Mobile make phone call. >> Yeah. I don't
mind provider in but um you know if we want to go that route have to be a public process. So you put it out. >> Okay. And and again with any of these with any of these bid scenarios, the council reserves the right to u reject all. >> No, I think
so then so then someone else a commercial entity would own the tower and then lease out locations on that to other providers. >> Yes. >> So that's how they would make money. What do we know anything about? So do an open-ended question in terms of cell phone tower technology. In other words,
our cell phone tower is going to be obsolete in 15 years and so it makes sense for us to sell it and take our money now. >> We could ask off the software. >> Yeah. Will it maybe >> pardon me? >> Oh, I don't know the answer to that question. Yeah. I don't know the answer
to that. >> That's worth pursuing. >> Yeah. So, the vendor that contacted me is from Tower, a company called Tower. >> They're like >> I don't know. >> South. >> Yeah. I don't know what they have behind that, but it would be a whole thing where they would show the financial
ability and you know we have anything on there on there for free that. >> So So does the council want David to investigate that guys? Does the council want David to investigate that? Yeah. >> And then come back to the council with this with the report. Okay.
>> You can hand in >> Yeah, why not? >> I'll talk to our consultant. >> And the future of the technology is is also Okay. >> An important part of that question. >> Yeah. Sort of like how we how we lose cable franchise. >> There's probably no scenario under which
would be willing to give up any of the land though, >> right? And that particular land would be hard to sell, >> right? But we wouldn't want to sell it anyway. >> Yeah. Um any update on the DPW issue?
>> Yes. So, I have uh we have a we did a we did a bid uh that's due to be open Tuesday um that basically would require the successful bidder to come in and come Brian leaves a fallout compact.
So, we'll find out if we have any bids and what the pricing is see us. Um we're also exploring the cost of people to buy equipment and all that ourselves. as a plan B.
>> Yeah. And then a plan C would be, you know, you build a small facility that need per again the goal is to haul out compound. >> On choice two, one of the main goals we had for hometown was to bring so what
they can do, beautifification, clean up, you know, all that stuff, field maintenance, whatever it needs to be. So I would hate to now go backwards. And then we got let go of the recycling trucks and we reduced all of that stuff. And so now we have more manpower on the
ground in our so we go to option two where we are hauling our leads. We are taking we're literally negating all that good efforts to reduce you know to get our >> Yeah. I I think the cost factor you took a look at is not only but the staff to do it and see what
>> uh it was a company called Major Blues STEM. So their contract is over. We need it for two years. So we had to redid it anyway. Uh but I had our QPA excavated because I wanted to get the numbers before we introduce our budgeting so
that we have a good number. >> My landscaper gave me a name of another. >> Yeah, they >> another collector that does this that that whole thing. >> Yeah. So um basically the bid is the bid is open to uh well it's open to
interstate commerce. Um so you know there not to be >> it's open to the state. >> Does it make sense to maybe do it uh give people I don't know if this makes sense any kind of incentive to get rid of it themselves.
>> What would that mean? The other thing too is you know the environment all the smells and the lime and everything doing outside it is a strong smell and it upwind >> right into the Benjamin brother's new apartment want to live there
the facility that I'm talking about if we did that would be um a rather small facility just tinding it st >> but not like a lime decomposition over 12 months >> grind it and remove Right. >> And the grinding purposes basically is to compact leaves, >> right? >> So you're not you don't want to be
shipping like potato chips, right? Like all air. >> So we'll say I should have some Well, I'll have the results of the bid on Tuesday night. Tell you, hey, did we bid? Did we get 10 bids? And where is it? What was that? Where did that come in compared to
the old contract? What projects, right? I think that's anything else on the high level increases 3.5% >> discussion. >> It's good. >> It's terrible.
>> No, >> our taxes are egregiously high because of the amount of money we spend in the school. >> You get the brief. Didn't your kids go to good schools? Mine did. >> We're saving money. >> Deteriorating in the 50 years I've lived
here. Deteriorating their quality of their cult. >> Yes. Yes. >> Saturdays are positive. That's my opinion. >> Other towns are are >> I don't care. >> That's like saying, "Oh, he did it, too." >> I think I think the schools are doing a
magnificent job and all four of my kids have got a fabulous education and went to great colleges. I'm I'm thrilled for your experience. >> Me, too. >> David, what's uh what's next? Does anyone else have any questions on the
budget? Amazing budget that you put together. >> I still I I still want to talk about um you know, anything we could do here to lower it even to get it to three. I don't know if that's even possible. Again, I feel like given the
ridiculousness of the school budget, John, >> there you go. we we if there's anything we can do to offset and I I'm not saying we have to like you know give up all of our priorities but given the referendum and everything else I feel like it would
behoove us to even ask the question is there any wiggle room and if so where to offset some of that extreme tax such as >> school yeah we did we did I think you know >> I didn't see where the the where the cuts >> the budget was much higher when it came
in and >> Susan and Dut >> we went through every line item and I know >> so if you I'll tell you how we can talk if you look at the backup with each department you'll see what was requested
and then you'll see what was cut and then you >> has anything done since went over the budget any other stuff >> constantly rewards and It gets chills of the way piece by piece. That's >> Yeah. >> To come up with >> Right. Right.
>> We kept working on it to reduce the amounts that were requested where we felt that we could. But you have to also remember that if you don't regenerate any surplus, I know >> your sur your fund balance will go down and that can affect next year. So this
is a very reasonable amount to put in for surplus. Like look at the year before we put uh 500 to 400,000 more into surplus. We're hovering around 52% 53% of utilizing our surplus which then
reduces our tax burden to our residents. >> So this was a I think this is an excellent budget compared to what my colleagues are telling me that are all literally freaking out about getting the municipal tax. It's >> really important that question. Yeah. Know it's great and we all want to do it
right. It is important to understand just the way the economics of the the town works of this 8020 split right between the burrow and the municipality the roads and the schools. So if we just made up a number we we lowered we did an
amazing it's not an amazing job. We we mortgaged our future. Let's let's literally fix fewer roads. Let's plant fewer trees. Let's do less of that. And we save a full point of our budget. So if we're at three and a half now, it goes to two and a half. It actually has
an impact to our residents of 20 basis points. Again, because the school is the 80%. So it's really, you know, the tag the the the uh the dog and the tail. The school is is the dog. Our tail does
nothing, right? On a on a relative basis, it's not even 5050. So that's the thing. You know, I know in in the past before I got here, I know that we there were there were some that had look the school was again egregiously high. Some
on the council thought it was a good idea. Let's let's raise taxes zero. Literally, there were a couple years before I got here of zero tax rate. >> That was a nightmare, >> right? And the reason why you see the you saw the potholes you did and the brown grass that you did and all those things.
>> Remember inflation inflation this year to give you a sense this is going to be about it's projected to be about 3%. >> So that means if you tax less than that that's fewer services that's fewer you know to Susan's point that's lowering
our surplus to mortgage our future. I think the team did an amazing job. Is there any way that we can communicate that? >> Yes. No, no, no. The critical thing to do is to say exactly that because the increase in your taxes is a reflection of two things. Number one, the
referendum that you voted for and number two, an increase in the school bus protocol. >> I would I would then further the narrative that inflation should be here, but we're not the budget for gas. communication. I totally agree. Yeah,
you your comment about healthcare is >> we were just talking earlier. You know, the school's got about 600 employees. So, they're getting killed with the cost of the health insurance increases the same way the burrow is. It's tre it's the biggest >> the biggest driver of course in the schools right now and in the burrow is
the healthcare of course >> and because >> I think the money differentiation I don't distribute anything right proactive >> well they just sat there and accepted food didn't increase right >> that's all the information about that
>> um because um Dave was so successful in getting wins to take the high deductible plan >> that helped with more than $300,000 to reduce it. Otherwise, we would have had $300,000 plus I think it was over 350 in this budget where that's part of the
problem with the other towns. They didn't do anything and their premiums are skyrocketing. Ours went up a little, but it would have been over 300,000 more. So, it's significant less. >> Jamie's pointing. I think it's critical
to have the communications. If I receive a tax bill and I'm not saying this tax% >> I am I am beyond agitated without explanation >> but I'm pissed off >> at 8% I'm infuriated >> 8%
>> excuse me >> I don't know what that what's the question >> what I'm saying is we need to have a communication as >> yes >> because if I receive this bill at 8% I'd be really acceptable without
explanation. >> Oh, you mean you're calculating as a combination of the school and the borrow together? >> Yeah, just one one person at a time. Go ahead, Lauren. Is there any opportunity going forward that we could get more money out of?
>> Well, I called the CFO there because I noticed that they were taking any additional surplus. The towns I heard from my other colleagues used to get that little bit of extra surplus, >> right? >> The county is now taking >> out. >> Why?
>> They're they said I spoke to CFO there. >> What did they say? That doesn't tell me >> that the little there's only a little bit of extra surplus in our tax levy, right? >> You know, from rounding, >> right? >> So, years ago, I heard from another tax collector when I wasn't even in government, they asked about that. And then I go over with the county and I
noticed that the surplus is going to a little bit every year. They said that's that's what they're doing. That's it. >> So, and also >> I think can we adjust? So, I'm saying no. Are you planning to do that? full of money. >> The everybody should know that the
amount that was realized in the previous year, you cannot in the subsequent budget uh um put more revenue in that was >> what line are you talking about, Susan? Stop. >> Talk about all of them. The only place you can put more money is >> the surplus
>> or >> there's a calculation from receipts from delinquent taxes. So you'll know that the budgeted amount is gonna be less than what was realized actual for >> I wanted to say >> that's the budget you know unless you
have receipt like if there's a receipt that came in that we already have in hand I could bite you know >> I'm not the dumbest governmental things ever that's fine >> I resp I respect your knowledge in it therefore refer to you in what it is I
will this when you're going into county or asking the question grants anything else. I want every dollar back from these people because if you have the audacity to take on taxes and you're doing little nickels and dimes and something else surplus I want the right to know exactly where
you're spending it and I want the right to be able to ask you for those dollars to pay for something to offset. You may not be the right person all respect but you're too blind. I am not I am happy to say
>> I am happy to call anybody because I want to have this argument. I think it's important I think it's important at a federal level at a county level at a national level because what I've learned in three years is this budgeting process and the way money moves around government is atrocious and I will say that publicly. I will say that anywhere
and I don't care and I will also be the lightning moist. I simply don't care. These are our dollars that are because of the salary and this is a fairy tale of where these things got >> and basically just just so everyone understands they take our money and they give they give it to
>> I'm not good with that. >> They give it to the other communities that are you know income more income based grants or you know more need based grants. >> It needs to be they at least need the signal of something that would need to be treated. I may lose, but I would make
it pretty late. >> And how much money are we talking? >> I I'd have to go back to every tax lean and I don't know when it started. I just noticed it this year, you know, so I called up. >> Okay. Who has another Who has another question? >> Go ahead, Lauren.
>> Question. Um I actually spoke with Jeff um Dreham this week. First of all, if you guys don't know our taxes are such a great job in delinquent taxes like we have such a backlog and he is just on top of it. So I actually called to see like you know what's the status how many are
outstanding and he is just on top of getting that money back. So um I know is he coming in because anyway we should >> he's doing so well. No, honestly, we should profusely thank him because he adds almost uh you know a half a million to a million dollars back into our
budget every year and I just want to say he's doing a really good job. The question I have and maybe David this is for you is we were having the issue on the certificate of occupancy and back pay of taxes and so I want to know the status on that because again we have homes that are being constructed they
don't file for the co they don't put in that last light bulb they're sitting there the taxes should have already changed and I'm not We were hoping to make it, you know, immediately start paying the the update for taxes, the appraisal. I'm not sure what the status is. So, again, we want
to make that process as fast as possible. >> Something that I've done a little bit and uh the burough attorney pushed back some this was about that the house. As a matter of fact, they started their own construction. >> But um >> we push we pushed very hard on >> the one angle that we're making about
forcing activity when we had written back saying that the state statute has preempted us with the UCC. So we can't make UC more strictly. However, what I've asked her to look into is
separately we require in our career. So you can't you can't have you can't have a use of city permit if you don't have a zone. So make the zone permit >> shorter or revocable or whatever if
things and along with that you know there should be a time uh absolute time where you have to have your completed to get a certificate of accuracy goes back not delaying the tax. I think we need to
figure out that I think is all a legal question that that rent is going to sort of wait for for us. Uh and we'll just keep that one for later. >> It would actually be somewhat helpful on two fronts. Like number one, I think you can collect taxes earlier than the house
is sold. Right now they have the house sold in order to get the taxes set. Um you get tax revenue a little earlier from the builder and also the taxes to be set they set before it sold. Then the homeowner won't guessing at the taxes
they buy the house. That's a question mark that is hard to >> I thought when a house was substantially complete >> I think I think the trigger is >> I think the trigger is the certificate of occupancy >> and they're holding it out.
>> So of course I understand that >> and I think that's the issue that we need to figure out. Is there a way to enforce the exped to expedite the certificate of occupancy being issued so that it's not just being held out >> or or or the or the concept of
substantial completion means the tax success substantial completion. I know some towns because I've had to pay taxes based on the building is 98% done and of course I'm not going to finish the painting, you know, because I'm not if the town doesn't if I don't do that and
the town doesn't tax me, I'm going to take advantage of it. But some towns use the standard of substantialness and uh it works for them. I don't know the legal issues around it. >> So it's going to make prices even though other tax but I don't know there's got
to be something I can do or like an essence somewhere and estimated tax. Did the state of New Jersey files tax where >> so let's look into this substantial completion concept and see what our >> so we'll work with Jeff and I think
Wendy too >> to understand what right >> yeah we're not looking to hurt anyone but >> if it's just sitting there >> tax money that's owed and that's less tax >> correct
>> and it's fair everyone. >> So, are we going to have a healthare problem again? >> Well, the healthcare issues are are something we just have to monitor year. Uh hopefully not. Hopefully the uh this sort of settles itself out with planning
stuff. Um so, you think that when the certain place could be in the whole Yes. and our and Brian Eiffford our outside consultant is uh has given just a report now obviously through February that we're below expectation
we're not exceeding what he had anticipated as one of the things I asked last year we have very few opportunities to raise money tax occupancy tax
and we see race every day for months to do like I could turn to 12 people in 2017. One of the things we put into this budget was to hire a uh an additional part-time code enforcement officer >> specifically for downtown to enforce
parking and and to enforce to enforce the dumpsters and by the >> I'm sorry to advocate for finding and penalties but I am advocating for penalties but it speaks to pedestrian safety. speaks to I think the judge was,
you know, he has been judicially correct when he can say he's going to do something to bring us revenue because that's not his goal. >> That's correct. But to that end, I think it's a combination of code enforcement, writing violations, and the police department writing more tickets.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. I'm with you, John. You know, garbage and filth outside of dumpsters. There's no excuse for it. We shouldn't tolerate any of And the other thing that I think is important is for every dollar of additional revenue that people are doing something wrong and are getting
fined for it. Guess what that means to our residents that are doing something right? >> We find them for it and you find that >> and pedestrians the whole thing any number of reasons. >> How much would you pay? That's correct.
>> Who has another? Did you guys want to bring something up? Well, the in the >> Susan wants to make a point >> in the I just want to bring up the library. We're required by >> I know it doesn't matter >> and it went up from 24 to 25 in this
budget 157,000 >> and this year almost 200 >> I mean it went 24 to 25% >> we go to the state librarian ask for some of that money because at the end of every year the money that would lapse into surplus I have to
deduct this amount and give them the money where years before when They didn't know they were entitled to the money. They would just spend, spend, spend, spend, spend and so they zeroed it out. >> Listen, but there's great opportunity here because as we shared publicly right at a
council meeting a little while ago, we're hoping to build a new library for our residents >> and that some of that funding should help pay. >> So, and and and that's the key. Is there a way and it may take state legislation I'm sure that that the library revenues
would be paying the the debt service portion the library >> again library money for library >> that works they're building this money >> over a million dollars >> that's what I was asking that's my
question how much >> they now have a they now have a bigger fund than our open space fund >> I I just want to tell you when I you know one of the reason why you got off they come here so then I asked them to send their own money >> I said don't they wanted to do
everything and I said well let's use your library instead of retaxing on >> and my head operate >> this year it was 2.1 million$2 million to operate
>> well That's the one third of a mill. >> Yeah. >> So >> I understand going up significant >> but no the question I asked. >> Well that's another thing they're using our tax ID number.
>> Yeah. which means that they're all >> saying a little something off my conversation about that. >> All right, other questions for Susan or the administrator. >> So, what's next in the let's what's next in the budget process? So really uh the
next thing is to uh and we can get to advances to finalize our capital. Um this document will be sent to Paul Lurch for him to do his work and the format introduced on April 7th. >> Can I
is spring break and I might not be here. I know Julie might not be here and like in the middle of Passover. It's just is there any way to change that? What's the calendar? That's a calendar question. >> And four weeks later, we're adopting >> what >> we're adopting on May. But
>> maybe maybe we just have backtoback meetings like the following week and then the following the third week, second week of April and third week of April because that week is just and I would like to be here budget adoption. Julie wants to be here budget adoption. >> So Lauren, budget adoption is May 5th.
April 7th is just the introduction. >> Yeah. have 28 days in between. I understand >> they have to have 20 days. >> 28. >> Well, well, so when we on the day we adopt, are we dis We're not discussing
it. I mean, our conversations discussion. Yeah. This is it. >> This is just the formality >> that public not that public's coming, but public can come discuss the budget without the introduction. Laura, the introduction is not the public hearing. It's the next meeting. >> Yeah,
>> it's for May. >> So, we're up against the calendar here. >> First of all, even a council meeting on schedule. >> So, the intro is just going to be everything. Yeah. >> April 7th. I'm asking for that meeting.
the whole meeting just in the school break calendar >> otherwise you have to go home >> I don't think so >> because I have to send I'm going to send everything to call today >> right >> in case he says anyway
>> but then you know just just have when >> do we need four affirmative votes in order to go to >> do March 31st? >> March 31st. >> Okay.
>> I mean March. >> Yeah. >> So adopting it earlier >> introducing >> I mean introducing it earlier. >> So we got to introduce on the 30th >> to introduce on the 30th. >> Yeah. >> I'll tell this will be a pretty quick decision.
30 on the 30. >> I can get to I got to fix a few things and then >> just so we can spend >> Okay. So, Dr. Lurch was adopted. >> I'll tell them today introduce Mayor March 31.
>> So in terms of the agenda, make the budget adoption the first item because that's out of the way in five minutes. >> Yeah. >> The introduction of the budget March, >> right? At the top of the agenda. Get it out. >> Does the council not have any questions?
>> Right. >> Council have any questions? Yeah. >> Okay. >> All right. Is there anything else today then? >> But can we run back question? >> I have a question on all the cars
question. >> Oh, is this the new capital? >> Yes. >> I'll take one. That's very kind of >> you get one >> share. You had a question.
Are we keeping this in the budget? >> No, that's not recommended. >> Okay. Zeroed out. Sorry. Never mind. >> Sorry. Missing was zeroed out. Can we change the any of the vehicles to the
lease vehicles at least on all vehicles in there? So then if not I would still like to have all leased vehicles. >> The only issue with the lease vehicles is that that the lease vehicle payments will impact your operating budget in the
future. >> And I'm not a police that does appreciation of American cars. Right now man is trading about 30% >> um residual value. So you wouldn't really except for passenger vehicles, you wouldn't lease BPW vehicles and >> too much wear and tear.
>> Well, you're not going to get a lease necessarily for dump truck and kind of stuff. Um, police vehicles, you know, they have a a different kind of wear life because I idle and stuff. There are some programs through enterprise rental and stuff and uh do they have options
for the fleet so you can take >> Okay. things. >> You can come up against modifications. You can't make a modification vehicle. >> You're getting penalized on the way back. >> So then you're really looking at any >> any burrow vehicle, something that
somebody's driving around. Make it electric. Get the chief's electric. >> That's I'm not asking for police. >> Police. >> It can't be ambulance. It can't be. >> Okay. Um the electronic signed even I see it
ordinance but I don't see it recommended or is that >> Yeah, it is recommended >> but I it says under ordinance >> $80,000. >> Yes. >> Yeah, it's it should be recommended. It's not recommended because the ordinance gave it the money.
It's over. Mr. Mayor, you raised my taxes 8%. Why? >> First of all, just for the record, I'll tell you why the tax. >> I'll tell you why. I'm saying I want to know the response because I want this room to have the same response because that that's at least one taxes overall. Why are the taxes up?
>> So, the positive thing is we've got a fantastic school system. The the community voted to uh spend extra money on rebuilding and renovating some of the schools, making them even better than they are now. Um we've got a fantastic
burrow. We've got all kinds of programs we're supporting. On the one negative side is our health insurance costs throughout the state are spiraling out of control. So we are burdened with dealing with that. Um overall on balance it's uh it's challenging budgets but
it's all good stuff at 10. >> It's inherently flat relative to inflation. >> It is inflation correct. Inflation is at 3% estimated this year. >> Well it may be higher than that. So we have to be able to keep up with our cost. If we don't keep up with our cost
this year, there's going to be pain next year because we'd just be pretending. We can't kick the can down the road. So, we're biting the bullet now. Okay. They put both of them in here. I said, "Can we fun?" >> Uh, it's an emergency
one. >> No, they budget. >> I think there was a big game. Where do they reside? >> Where do we
>> where do they reside >> in the bedroom? >> Where >> in the garage? >> So ask for two. That means there's a instance in which there's a simultaneous meeting, right? One would assume you're right on one because sequential either sit at guys in the field and school.
>> Those these are these are the devices that move around to the different locations. So you have an ambulance and then you have um >> you only get two you only need two if they're simultaneous events. I'm asking the frequency of simultaneous events and what events they go to.
>> The question I have is how old are these how old are these things? >> So there's there are simultaneous sports events, right? >> That's what I'm saying. These things sit outside of those fields and those events or central places get called. >> No, no, no. They bring them to the
events and they sit >> on site. >> They're on site. Why they're asking for two? >> Correct. >> Because they need to manage local events. >> Correct. And I think Lauren's question is, do we want to put I'm not speaking for you. You want to put one back in for an $80,000.
>> You're not wrong, but it's not easy. >> Emergency vehicles should be budget versus, you know, >> I just want to also ask about these vehicles just needing how many people go over the fee schedule
just because and I support the fees a lot. However, we're gonna this is the year that we're sounds like we're going to be down. >> You're not going to be down. So, >> your your your force is your force is going to stay the same size. You're sending some people to the academy. Um
but it doesn't it doesn't uh remove the responsibility of having a vehicle. Would that but that will that be when will they be hour they happen? >> So when some of these police vehicles
even if you were a man sometimes not stop. So here's here's here's what you have. So you have one vehicle >> that was totaled in January. >> Okay. >> Right. That is a replacement. So that shouldn't be looked at as a vehicle. >> Right. We've got a percentage under insurance.
>> 37 37,000 can insurance and the vehicle's 55,000. All right. So in addition to that the chief is requesting one additional regular vehicle and then
under OEM the a pickup truck that would be utilized by the police department management have its own budget. No, just what >> the budget have it own budget or does it go? >> No, it has it go budget. I mean the the OEM put it in deputy police officer
>> but it should have its own >> because it's not you obviously it's not required offic David comes back with us with more information on this responder. I know JP is here saying that they're both down their electric vehicle. >> Look at it this way. You know, if the
council wants to put it on, I just want to I'm trying to get a sense as to why there. I understand that but to me this is emergency experience and I don't I don't think we should emergency response lot
>> here that you know we'd like to do but this is I think something we must feel I feel like this is a very important let's can we find out let's see what the status of let's see what the status is
look at what the trade in value is and how much we put Actually, sorry. The just so there also there's a need for electron electric responder chargers. Is that for because it's a new item or do they are there uh the
existing ones are broken? >> All we do is charge it. Is that what you're talking? >> Where are the charges? >> Wait, how much? >> 5,000. >> Yeah. >> This one right here. This number right here. >> Is that the charger? I don't it's not
>> Yeah. So D we did get on that >> and again I don't know where the you know >> so they so they're all and then there's the I know that we spoke about this the issue with the pagers and the radios and again to to Lauren's point if we want to
again always want to manage the taxes is it a question of you know is the responder more important than uh the radios a year and get a responder or vice versa because that's that's half the amount I understand. I don't think the radio that's how they communicate on
the field in emergency. So again, sorry like if TAC is asking, I'm not giving them everything. I'm not giving them a retrofitted, you know, new bathroom, which they asked for, but I think emergency response and communication systems. >> Well, just to make sure the way this is written is they're actually at least
this what came in, they they're actually getting everything. >> They ask for a bathroom. I don't think, right? Not >> they didn't ask for. They didn't ask for. >> So they asked for Yeah. I'm just want to make sure we're reading it. >> You know, if I have to take out my inclusive playground and put in an
emergency, I'll do that. You know, like >> basically the fire department gets everything except for >> right. >> I mean, and that's the only thing. If we can make the math work, of course, we want to give all of our departments everything that
you're saying. Let's let's look at the what other people are asking if there's a trade out that makes me send. I will say for the writing we have budgeted >> um almost $75,000 more than what was the cost. So 13 and we're budget,000
hours is what we press for space. So we just made the 500,000 250. >> You know, we're gonna get it. It comes in at 413 and we'll get half. They'll
get halfway between so many things. >> But they're so big. They don't hunt down the field. They don't have enough >> does not have many vehicles. >> David will take a look at look at all any other questions or team are we done
so much. >> Do you have any other questions Susan or David for the council >> again one last time please? Omar David Susan this is amazing job and highly inflationary. >> You have no update. Go ahead. Okay. So,
on the on the court, I did uh talk to my counterpart in Dearrest and I requested $25,000 increase. So, they are going to move us. They're going to meet us halfway. So, they're going to take us from the 435 to $55,000 this year. We're going to meet in September to see how
things are going and then we will um increase the amount uh to what we've asked for in 2017. >> Okay, that's good. What we need to figure out as an today
is are the requested salary judge. >> Well, if we enjoy Lauren, >> you know. >> Okay. Motion to uh good vote. >> Second, please. >> All in favor?
>> Thank you, everybody. >> Thank you. >> Has some turn it.