[Music] The notice requirements have been satisfied. The meeting dates for the year are confirmed at the annual meeting are posted on the public Bolton board in the lobby of the municipal center and published in the record within the first 10 days of the new year. Salute to the
flag, please to the republic for it stands one nation under God indivisibleice for all. Omar, can I have a roll call, please? Council member Corsair. Council member Dayton here.
Council member Michaels present. Council member Dr. Okconor here. Council member Park here. Council member Roleri here. Mayor Zetta here. Um before we get started, I'd like to take um
have a moment of silence. Tomorrow marks the u second anniversary of the terrorist killings and murder at the Nova site in Israel. Um the JCC had a really uh nice memorial service last
night. They didn't they're not doing it um tomorrow because they're in they're in the middle of a holiday, of course. Um so it's going to take a minute of silence to think about the people who were killed and also the 48 hostages that still remain to be freed.
Okay, thank you everyone. All right, let's move on to the um Diwali proclamation. Three young ladies come on up to the microphone. Oh, five. Excuse me. I can't count this evening. All right. So, um, who's going
to go first? Oh, you're going to do the introduction. Okay, go. Just please speak into the microphones. Okay. Um, Reika Chuckerbathi is a junior at 10:05 High School. She is passionate about science research and spent the summer working with the prostate cancer
cancer research team at Mount Sinai Hospital. Trained in classical ballet, she volunteers her time alongside fellow high school dancers to bring dance performances to senior citizens. Veteran and special need programs throughout
Bergen County. She is also the vice president of the Indian culture club and Tennifi High at Tennifi High School and is honored to be reading the Dvali proclamation tonight. Gi Gi is a senior at Tennifly High
School. She is the corp president of the Indian Cultural Club and is excited to partake in the D Valley proclamation. Aha. Aanib is a sophomore at Bergen County Academis.
In addition to being a proud member of of the Tenny Varsity Swim Team, she's interested in healthc care diversity and intervention in improving access for care in the elderly. It is a privilege
for her to partake participate in the reading of the proclamation today. Whereas the holiday festival of the Bali or as it is also known the Bavali is celebrated in autumn of each year by Hindus, Sikhs, Janss, Buddhists and
others throughout the burough of Tennifly and around the world. And whereas celebrants of Diwali believe that rows of lamps symbolize the light within the individual that rids the soul of the darkness of ignorance. And
whereas Diwali is celebrated by lighting the via or oil lamp which symbolizes dispelling darkness and bringing light into life with traditional offerings, rituals and festivals. And whereas Dali
is a festival of lights that includes many traditions such as gathering with friends and family for community prayer, exchanging gifts, setting off fireworks, and decorating houses with colorful wranglies. And
whereas the five days of Dvali week include the hunteras, narak, chhatarashi, bardan puja, e i dooj and whereas dvali is also the hindu new year and is celebrated on the last day of the last month in the lunar calendar. And
whereas for Hindus, Dvali marks Lord Rama's return to his home IA after defeating King Rabana and is therefore a celebration of good triumphing over evil and that light will prevail over darkness. And whereas for six Dali is
the day on which the sixth sixth founding sick guru Guru Hargoind was released from confinement by the muggle emperor Jangir. And we are asked for James Diwali symbolizes the attainment of Nirvana by Lord
Mahabira the last of the who were the teachers of Jane Dharma at the end of his life in 527 BC. And whereas for Buddhists Diwali represents the day Emperor chose the peaceful path of Buddhism over destruction and
carnage. And whereas diversity represents one of our greatest strengths and Tanfly joins with all those around the world celebrating Diwali. And now therefore the mayor and council of the bureau of Tanfly County of Bergen in the state of New Jersey. Duke hereby
recognize October 18th through October 23rd as Diwali week of with October 21st as Diwali in burough title line. And we call this observance to the attention of all our residents and call upon our residents to learn about its religious, cultural, and historical significance.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Great job, Omar. Did I sign that yet? It's in the office, so we'll sign that and get that out to them. Yes. Okay. Thank you very much for coming up here tonight and doing this. We really
appreciate it. Great job, ladies. Great job. All right. All right. Next, we're going to move on to National First Responders Day. This was requested by the DPW director. Um,
oh, it's a proclamation for them. Yeah. This is uh basically acknowledging that DPW uh employees are first responders alongside law enforcement, firefighters, paramedics. All right. So, I'm going to read this. I'm going to read the first and last
paragraph of it. All right. Whereas the first responders, including public works professionals, firefighters, police officers, emergency medical technicians, 9/11 operators, paramedics, and other emergency personnel stand on the front lines of our communities, selflessly
serving and protecting the citizens of the Burough of Tennifly in times of crisis. Now therefore, the Burough of Tennifly mayor and council does hereby designate October 28th, 2025 as National First Responders Day. The mayor and
council of the burough of Tennifi urge all citizens to join with representatives of the American public works association and government agencies and activities, events, and ceremonies paying tribute to our public works first responders alongside law
enforcement, firefighters, paramedics, emergency medical technicians, 911 operators, and other emergency personnel to recognize the substantial contributions they make to protecting our national health safety. and advancing the quality of life for all.
That's wonderful. Thank you. All right. Thank you everyone for that. Omar, you're going to get copies of that for my signature also. Yes. Okay. Great. There's also two other things that are very important this month. Go ahead. October is breast cancer awareness month. Yes.
So for those women that you know, please see a doctor, please get self checks, but you know, raise awareness as much as you can. and that's the best thing you can do. Uh the second thing, this is actually a domestic violence
awareness month as well. And so, um we usually have something from the center for safety. We've had in the past, but if anyone is having any issues domestically, um please understand our bureau has resources for this. They may come to the bureau, they may come to our police, any
first responder. And so, no one should suffer in silence. There are incredible resources here in Birmingham County. And so I just want to put those two things in talking. Okay. Thank you, Lauren. Appreciate that, Councilwoman. Okay. Next item in the on the agenda, David, you're up.
Mixed zoning considerations. Good evening everybody. Hi. Let me try that. Can you hear me? Yes. Okay, just making sure. Uh, evening everybody. My name is David Novak. I'm with Burgess Associates. We're the planning consultant for the burrow. Uh, tonight wanted to speak somewhat
briefly, but also in depth about uh, mixed use zoning. So, I know this has been a discussion in the burrow uh, about what mixed use zoning is and how we should regulate it. Uh, just as a little bit of a background, we have several zoning districts in the burrow that currently permit mixed use, right?
that includes the B1 district, the B2 district. Uh both those are business districts, the C commercial district, the MI industrial district, and the SRB senior residents and business district. The interesting thing is that when we look at this list of permitted uses for
those districts necessarily specify mixed use. It identifies a bunch of different non-residential uses as well as residences above the first floor, specifically dwelling units above the first floor. Obviously that regulation generates some questions. Uh question number one is if
dwelling units are permitted above the first floor then what is actually supposed to be on the first floor and the next question would be how much of whatever that is is supposed to be on the first floor. Within recent years the planning board has seen a number of mixeduse applications with some sort of
non-residential to ground floor and multif family up above. Um, the way that the board has typically interpreted it is that there needs to be some sort of ground flooror non-residential space on the first floor that's open to the public. So, think maybe a retail shop or an office. However, that's generated
some concern, especially during the brief process. uh specifically in order to be qualified as permitted use there's concern that developers may start putting in or have already done so uh what's essentially a limited or nominal amount of ground floor non-residential
space in order to be constituted to permit use. So before we go into the potential zoning solutions I just wanted to go over some trends that we've seen both locally as well as in the region too. Um, I did look at some examples of
mixeduse multif family developments that have been improved in the burrow over the past several years. Now, I'm not saying these are guidelines for you that you have to go by these numbers at all. Just want to show you what's been happening around the burrow. And I looked at four different projects that are outside of the downtown area and
then three projects that are inside the downtown area. Uh for those wondering, the projects outside of the downtown area include the old Benjamin Brother site, the uh they call it the Odoni site, but it's 66 West Railroad Avenue, 31 Central Lab, and 44 and 46 West
Railroad AB. So all generally outside of our downtown area, which at least to me, I consider the B1 and the B2 district. I can go over those numbers specifically, but generally we've seen commercial spaces range anywhere from a low 490 ft to as large as 2588 square feet.
When we look at what that percentage is of the building footprint, which is basically the space occupied by the total building area, those percentages range anywhere from 4% to 23.9%. When we look at the ground level floor
area, those percentages go up a little bit. What do I mean by that? A couple of the applications that we've seen in front of the board have a ground level that includes a caner levered parking area. If you subtract out that caner levered parking area, which is technically under the building, but it's
not what we call floor area because it's not walled in, those percentages raised to about 18 to uh 18.5% to 65.7%. So pretty wide range. Looking at the downtown area, we looked at 4.5 to 5
West Railroad Avenue, 6 West, 6 West Railroad Avenue, and 11 West Railroad Avenue. commercial spaces in the downtown that were approved for these mixed use projects range anywhere from 1,116 square feet to 1,810 square feet. And we
look at the percentage of building footprint, it's anywhere from 16.4% to 85.8%. And when we look at that ground level floor area, 62% to 85.8%. So again, very wide ranging. That's what we've looked at locally uh
in terms of recent approvals. Again, it's not the numbers that you need to adopt. It's just what's been happening at a local level. I also took a look at some retail trends and office trends. Uh these are very somewhat general. Um I think we're all kind of familiar with the challenges
that the retail market has faced. Uh historically that became first because of the malls, then the rise of e-commerce, which has been exacerbated by um obviously the COVID pandemic five years ago, which made people a little bit more comfortable with online purchases. Uh interesting fact. Does
anybody want to take a guess? Pursuant to the US census, what percentage of retail sales were e-commerce in the second quarter of 2025? Take a guess. What percentage? 12%. 12%. Anybody else? 85 85%. 50
50%. Feel like a game show. Uh the mayor's closest without going over it is 16.3%. Which is a number that always strikes people as very low which is a little bit of a concerning fact because if they're having struggles with brickandmortar retail at that
percentage e-commerce is only projected to rise. So there's going to be more challenges to retail spaces. Um I also took a look at what's called the construction reporter which is a uh reporting tool run by the Department of Community Affairs here in New Jersey.
looking at the amount of retail space which has been authorized by building permits. Now throughout Bergen County, we've seen quite a trend. Uh in 2020, there's 189,000 ft of retail space authorized. By 2024, that dropped down
to around 3,000 ft in the burrow. Between 2020 and 2024, the DCA reported that there was zero square feet of new retail space authorized by building permits. They also provide estimates on the
amount of square footage of non-residential space that's been reported on certificates of occupancy. So, not necessarily new construction, but somebody moving in. Um, between the for the burrow again between 20 and 2024, zero square foot was reported to
the county, I'm sorry, to the DCA. Uh, looking at broader trends, the institutional property advisors is a economic consultant. They have a report online that found that there's about 260,000 square feet of retail space to
be completed in the region, northern New Jersey. Uh that sounds good. However, that's the lowest level since 2007. So, we have seen some struggles with the retail market. Uh office trend is somewhat similar. Uh the county rep the construction reporter from the DCA also
has reports on the amount of square footage of non-residential space reported on certificates of occupancy. Uh we've seen a lot more in the county there. In 2020, there was about 364,000 square feet. In 2021, there's about 461,000 square feet. The burrow, it's
been a little bit lower, but in 2024, uh we have 2,800 ft of office space authorized by certificate. Are you including the malls? The malls would be included in there. Yes. Yes.
Oh. Uh especially with uh Yes. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Can I ask a question? Yes. So, when we're having conversations here about what percentage should be retail, you know, or not, what uh like all different industry, the food industry
has metrics on what population will support a full full-size supermarket, right? Or whatever. 5,000 people supports a full-size supermarket or something like that. What is it in terms of a retail store? So, in other words, what's the data generally speaking? So, if we want more If we wanted more retail
stores, what would the population have to look like in order for that to be successful? And based on the retail store square footage we have now in town, are we at the right population? Are we at the right store level? We have too little stores, we have too many stores. How does that work? I don't know that number what that
correct uh if there is a correct ratio, right? Because you look up what's an appropriate amount of retail or amount of you know commercial and a mixeduse development, you get answers that are all over the place. I did the research with the Urban Land Institute. So, it is a tough thing to answer. Um, that being said, just generally
speaking, uh, if you've been paying attention to the news, there's been a lot of, uh, multif family inclusionary developments being built throughout the state, probably further. So, presumably there will be an increase in population, not just in the burrow, but throughout the region. Is that going to
uh, have a significant impact of retail space? Some estimates are saying perhaps, but it's it's not very easy to quantify. And again, this is just retail and office space. So, there's a lot of other markets out there for restaurant market,
um, you know, medical office, things like that. It's just gets very tough to quantify. We have retail and office, which kind of the the stalwarts in terms of being able to find real numbers for it. So, where are we going with this? Oh, go ahead. I'm sorry. I had a question. Oh, I was going to say I was going to just talk about the zoning options, but go for it.
No, Lauren has a question. Just to go along with what the mayor asked, are you finding that a lot of this mixed use um vacant stores like they're putting out the apartment buildings, but then the stores are more difficult to fill? I've seen that uh both in terms of
projects as well as some resoning requests. So, one of the towns that I work with down in central Jersey had a redevelopment project that was initially going to consist of about 800 residential units, uh 37,000 square feet of retail space, and a hotel. They
knocked out the hotel. They added more residential, bumped up to 868. Then they dropped down the retail requirement or the non-residential space requirement from 37,000 ft to about 17,000 ft. Do you know if that space is built?
Uh it's still under construction. Yes. Uh I hope it will be put it that way. Um so yeah, there is a uh it's um it's a little bit of both. I've seen some drops in retail or non-residential
demand um as well as increased pressures on just multif family. So give us some conclusions about where you Okay, there's three conclusions. Um and again I can't tell you there's a right or wrong answer here, right? It's okay.
Uh everything is context sensitive. So I think the burough needs to figure out where we want certain uses develop and then what's the likelihood of those uses developing? Right? If we can plan it, we can zone for it. Is it actually going to happen? Uh, option number one is to establish a floor area requirement for all districts like that across the
board, right? Uh, you can either employ a minimum percentage like the 20% that we just previously talked about. Uh, you can also employ a minimum square footage requirement as well or both. So for example, a requirement could be 20% of the floor area or footprint needs to be
devoted to non-residential space provided that there should be a minimum of 500 square feet something along those lines. I just throwing out numbers there. How would the second number work if it would be anything from one square foot to one billion building? Well, it would be whatever uh
takes care of uh you can do whatever is greater. So if it was 20% or 500 feet, whatever is greater. Uh say if it's a 10,000 square foot building footprint, you'd be relying on that 20%. Yeah. Uh but if it's a smaller footprint, then if it works out to like
I don't know 50 square feet, you want to make sure you have some sort of minimum built in there. Uh the other thing is that if you were to come up with a standard like that, the next question would be do you want to design it as a bulk standard or a use standard? So the difference with that is if there's a bulk standard. So say a developer comes
in with a mixeduse project. They're required to have 2,000 square feet of non-residential space. They come in with 1,800 feet. The bulk standard jurisdiction will lie with the planning board. It'd be considered a a bulk variant like a C variance. Somebody comes in. Same thing with a you know a
setback that might be too close or too far. Jurisdiction will lay with the planning board. You can also design it as a use standard perhaps like a conditional use standard. If an applicant doesn't meet that standard, then they would have to actually go in front of the zoning board for a conditional use variance that's in a
higher threshold to get that approved. Um, so you can come up with the standard and then come up with how you want to regulate that standard. Uh, that would be option one, just a straight shot across the board for all districts. Option number two is you look at where you want certain uses to go and and perhaps you think that you want that
mixeduse environment in your downtown the B1 B2 district and you want to eliminate the mixeduse requirement for the other districts. That's another option. Um if you were to do that, one thing I would recommend is to come up with new bulk standards for what you want your multif family projects to look like in those other
districts. And they can again be bulk standards or they can be conditional e standards as well. So, say if you're comfortable with the idea of removing that mixeduse requirement in the SRB district all the way up north, but you really don't want the lot sizes to be too small. So, you can set a minimum lot
size, a requirement for setbacks, a requirement for parking, a requirement for um residential amenities, things like that. And it could be bulk standards or conditional use standards. So, again, if an applicant comes in and they're not, you know, they require a
variance, if it's a bulk standard, go in front of the planning board. And if it's a conditional use standard in front of the zoning board and then finally you can get rid of any requirement but I wouldn't recommend that. So I those are really say getting rid of any requirement any require for use but no I would agree that's not the I can't speak for the council but it
doesn't sound like that's where any of us want to I would agree but I just got to throw the options out there we are now. Yeah. So I I would agree with you. I think that's a bad option but it's got to be how do we take action? Yeah. What are the next steps? How do we So do we just fill it in? Do we I know we've
been talking about this for quite a while. So, right. So, if once when the council I think option three is is a nogo. So, you have option one or option two. And when you let David know whether you want to go with option one or option two, the next step is the preparation of an
ordinance to effectuate that change. Okay. So, we'll talk amongst ourselves. We'll have the answer before the next meeting and we'll bring that up at the next meeting and take action. Yes. Perfect. Been a really long time on this. Yeah. Lauren, go ahead. not to make this conversation longer, but thank you David for the analysis. Um, do you have any
recommendations on what has been successful in other small towns? I mean, obviously, we're not looking for the impact that No, we are in small towns. You know, I I think our zones are so close to each other that I almost think option two
doesn't work for. It's just too close. Um, so let's say we're in option one. Have you found something that is successful that isn't a deterrent to bringing in good developers and you know getting these spaces filled? Uh nothing that I've fallen in love with
quite frankly. So uh one of the towns that we work with uh has very strict guidelines for it downtown where it does not permit any residential up above in the ground floor on the main drag. Um that downtown has seen an influx of
restaurants. So retail is leaving that area. restaurants are coming in. Not a bad thing, but it's a greater demand on parking. And also, one of the concerns is what happens if there's a turn in the economy, a recession, people aren't going out to dine as much. So, that community is getting a little bit
worried that they have an over reliance on restaurants. So, I haven't really seen a great formula that really nails it yet. Um, so but that's it. It's very context sensitive.
20%. Okay. Are you just just in terms of in terms of um requiring something like a residential amenity versus a retail space? You know, we have to strike a balance there especially with stuff. What's happening just so everyone
understands is that a lot of the new developers do residential amenities and say that that's their mixed use. That you know that gym downstairs which might take a couple outside members but really is for its own residence becomes its use space and there's really nothing
for the larger community. I agree. It would have to be not a it yeah it has to be open to the public or I agree because you that's the last thing you want because the whole point of a mixeduse project is to have some sort of activity on the ground floor. You know I was walking around the downtown before this meeting and I got
to say there's actually it was nice to see people out and about. Um but uh you know if your requirements for non-residential is just for a residential amenity, you're not going to get that goal. It has to be open to the public. Yeah. Right. I'm I'm just saying we've seen
applicants come who want to just res amenities um as their mixed use space and I want to ensure that however we write our it's got to be open to the public. Right. Absolutely. Yeah. The whole point Yeah. I was saying the whole point of mixed use is to create I mean there's a lot of
points of it but one of the benefits of mixed use is that you create that environment where you do have a liveless right you have activity on the ground floor people above um it adds a customer base to your businesses it adds uh you know a a a level of public safety as well if you go back to Jane Adams who
wrote about that so um there is a lot of benefit to to that. Okay just one more of preference on that buddy jurisdiction versus the use for the zoning which will be easier to facilitate I guess as we try to get
developers but then it would be in front of the planning board. Yeah. If it's a conditional use standard it goes in front of the zoning board if the uh that's a hearing. Yeah. Oh yeah. Everything would be a hearing. Yes. Everything's a hearing. Yeah. I I would uh the way I kind of envision the long-term
planning for your downtown is to have those types of requirements as bulk standards because one of the other things we'd like to work on too at some point is design standards for your downtown. So I kind of envision that being a bulk and design standard. Bulk for you know what those amenities or what the requirements need to be as well
as uh coming up with future design standards. So that way we have a consistent approach with one board handling that. And I think that just helped shape the vision a little bit. But that was just that would be my preference. Okay. Thank you so much for I appreciate it.
Always a pleasure to see you. Thank you very much. I'll see you Wednesday. See you soon. Thank you. Take care. All right. So, next item on the agenda, Burton County Community Development Block Grant. David, uh yes, we there's a letter in your packet. Um
the this just came out on Monday the 29th of of September. The deadline is December 19th. Um, tennifly because of its um fluency and uh lack of um qualification on the census tracks, you're really uh limited on what you can
utilize uh CDBG funding for here. Um we would be able to use it for um addressing an architectural barrier such as we did in Burough Hall a few years ago with the handicap bathrooms. Um, we
had uh anticipated using or applying for CDBG funds this past year with the Gro Street Park building, but because those plans were essentially a knockdown and and build new um that was not eligible because it will not fund new
construction. Um, so off uh fun it has to be an to to correctly an architectural barrier. So, you can't like knock down a building and then have this funding pay for it. What about uh weren't we gonna do for the little league the uh
so basically you have two you have two buildings off the top of my head that would qualify. One would be the bathrooms at the little league. Yeah. Uh the other would be potentially bathrooms at the swim. Can I ask you about does the nature set
bathrooms? I know they are very much trying to get you know four-wheel drain on the paths but one of the big hindrances that is that they don't have bathroom facilities that would accommodate. Are they are there current bathrooms there? Yeah, in the building not on the fields.
They're not accessible at all to if we were talking about making the current bathrooms accessible then that would and the nature center would be in the CTV. It would be in the for this program would be anywhere within the town. Okay. It's just that you're very limited on
those kind of uses. So, are we applying? What's the Yeah, the deadline is December 19th. So, you have all um Okay. I think it's correct.
Correct. You can't It has to be just correcting an architectural barrier. Okay. If it's full, let's go out of three. Pick the most expensive one. Go for it. So we fill that we apply for this grant internally. Well, we would apply there'll be resolutions and so forth. We just have
to have it in by December 19th. So we have time to come back to get ideas from council as to which which project they want to follow through with the bathroom which location or center. Good question. I guess it all depends.
What does it cost to do a bathroom and how many bathrooms are there and how much is available? Right. Exactly. So, we don't know. Can we apply for all three as one? No, I think it's it's got to be location specific. We're going to say we're going to update
bathrooms as part of our grant. I think it has to be more location project specific location. So, let's find out how much. If we can get $20,000, but the bathroom cost $25,000, then we've got to decide which one bathroom we're going to do. Right. Okay. We get $75,000 and each each location
cost 25, we can get all three done. All right. So, we'll come back to you with that and have resolutions ready obviously well in advance of the day. Perfect. My question also, I'm a little bit if we can get that coordination with the project because I don't want to have construction because I know this has to
take place within the year. So I don't want to make I want to make sure our construction isn't going to interfere with you know field usage and that kind of like the timing on this I think would be relevant. Well one of the things that the engine our burrow engineers recommended with the little league building is really to
do an analysis as to whether or not that building is worth rehabbing or whether that should be a raise raising the building and building new. So that hasn't that hasn't been determined yet or studied. Okay. I feel like that building is
really it's a nice centerpiece of our town, let's say. Yeah, David, it may be worth talking to the counterpart at the schools with the referendum and the new fieldhouse whether there's going to be bathrooms included in that as well because they may be fairly close together. They are building new bathrooms at the fieldhouse.
They are. Yeah, but they're in the But I think the issue there is whether they're going to open them for Yeah. non-school people, but it's worth a conversation offline. Can you get from the field house? What was the question?
Can you get from the little league field? I believe if you walk all the way around. No. So I I think the new fieldhouse is going to be on the other side. Yeah. The other side of G the other side of the field, not where the fieldhouse is now. The opposite side closer to the the parking
lot by the park. Correct. Right. Right. So it'll be closer to the little league field when they build a new one. All right. Sorry. Just quickly, have we um did we stop getting the grant list
from that company? No, we still get it. I don't know if can you please uh send us uh we used to get it every month to see where we are. I haven't seen it in a while. I think the last time we was earlier this year, but I don't know if it was for the whole year of time.
Yeah. Well, we can get the listing. I mean, they don't really do anything for us until we identify something, but All right. They'll get it and then bring it back to our committees and then see if they were interested. A lot of them are fast. All right. Let's move on. Tenniferly
swimming pool report. David. Okay. So, we have two members of the swimming pool committee here. Hello ladies. How you doing? wedding season was generally generally successful. Um, you know, we started out this this pro approach with
uh appropriating $90,000 um to supplement what we thought we would have to supplement um uh pool membership revenue with. As it's as it turned out, we did very well um
raising uh about 39 will have raised 399,576 as of the end of September with um expenditures as of the end of of September of $34,000. Um then Susan has
So we're $3,000 ahead of the game. Yeah, but that's that's just through the end of September. So, you have to project out towards the end of the year. Um, basically, if things were to play out as we anticipate them right now, you would
uh basically use about 25 thou a little over $25,000. I'm sorry. A little over $34,000 um out of the 90,000 if I'm reading this correctly. Susan, Susan, you can come up and speak to this
as well. Um, and you know, on the back page of this uh gives you a better snapshot. We originally looked at revenues of 307,000, expenditures of 307, and right
now we are at 399, 576, and 303956. Yeah. So basically, you put money from the cover deficit into 90,000, but you can't use there's a surplus, but you can't use the funds that created the
surplus from the current fund. So that portion has to go back. It's about 60s something,000 because we really only needed $28,000 of it. So was a huge success. Back to general. We have to put back like 60
something,000 general. Yes. Yeah. We don't have to put back the whole 90 right now, but it might have to go into two years, you know, the rest of and and the the goal here is to appropriate zero dollars from the general fund from the 2026 budget,
right? So, so well, we might have to appropriate 2026 30 something,000 only because the appropriations are going over in this year and that's what's anticipated only because of one time unforeseen expenses.
So if we were allowed to keep the surplus, we would have keep the surplus, but the goal would be that additional memberships get sold and additional revenue gets raised and to have zero appropriation out of the general fund. Right. So we had we had $52,000 of one
time unforeseen expenses. So we don't plan on having those expenses next year. And I I don't know if everybody should read the and that was the concrete sidewalk. the it was for uh let's see the installation andor repairs to retain
walls, restrooms, light fixtures, PA system and additional utility charges. So these are all things that could not be anticipated. We also had cost to Cresco for the two weeks in June and then staying open two weeks later. Okay.
And that the quest to Cresco was $8,100 those two weeks and then keeping the pool open an additional two weeks. So small expenses we don't plan. So those onetime expenses who reasonably think they were just one time. We're clearly not putting down more concrete this year. The concrete will be there
for 75 years. Right. Yeah. But but who's to say we don't need things like irrigation and other capex? Can this can this sur can this surplus be spent in the 2025 calendar year for things like irrigation while we have
dead trees that aren't getting watered? This gets put back in. Yes. It gets the the the excess we have gets put back into the general fund. Well, it's not earmarked for anything in particular. It's for general use. You're not allowed to use I think what what John was asking was can it be used for other one-time
improvements at the site now before the years out before it goes to general the surplus. How many other 90? So Susan the question is can can you can you use can we utilize the surplus now
for other expenses? over from the correct answeration system was the question. We might have to pay back the whole idea. We have to back right that's a new question. More appropriately that would go that that irrigation cost would go into a
2026 capital plan for the utility. The whole idea is that operationally it should be flat. Correct. the town like everything else that we have. You know, if the council agrees, we're willing to invest capital expense
like we did in planting trees or doing that. That's where the council is. But operationally, we should run the run it so it's 100%. Or make a surplus. It could point that you do have a surplus in the pool. Even better. Yep. Right. And then we didn't incur any debt
because the capital improvement projects were taken from municipal space. So, so Dan, then Lauren, please. So, if the utility creates a surplus next or next year, does the utility have its own surplus
line, right? The same question. Okay. So, in our budget, this will be utility line, which makes sense. your in your budget next year and I can only speak from what I know today. That's why I put the last sentence in there that it's based on
what I know now. In next year's budget, we will have to take about 30 something,000 from the current fund into the utility, but that was only because of our appropriations in 25 over what we anticipated. You have to do it that way.
I spoke to the audience about it. Um, you know, after I did most of the work here, but So, even though you're going to put 60 back, you have to budget another 30. We do because of the way the laws are, we have to Okay. So, so, but all in all, if you deduct
down to 52,000 of one time expenses, you're ahead of the game. But just like every CFO knows, there's always, I guarantee it, write it down. There are always onetime expenses in everything we do, in every function we do it, everywhere in this town, everywhere in this country.
I guarantee you there will be onetime expenses next year. So that is not Lauren. Go ahead, Lauren. So I actually I actually met with some of the pool workers all summer because I got the job dropping my daughter there. We loved it. Um and so I had a list and actually I've
had this since the summer of things that they would like for upgrades. So what is the process of how the pool utility now can make investments into themselves and and let me just go through some of this. Um I know there's pool people here. So
that's really let's talk about it with the pool committee. Those are great suggestions but that should kind of go through the pool committee and it's a budgetary issue. Yes. But what's the process like be part of the process? Can we let them as a utility just make these upgrades? You know, so the council would the council
would adopt the utility budget like your own budget. Got it. You should have a capital plan if if they're capital IDs that you're talking about. Yeah. For example, so the capital plan you would adopt a capital plan for utility and that's the pool utility deciding it
for themselves not us. No, you don't have any. So just like every function comes to us and puts a budget together, the pool team should put together a proposed budget, come to us in general, and the council makes a decision and the
council will make a decision on how we how we can allocate capital funds. It's the same process as the current fund budget except it's a separate budget. So So the account it would be the council's control over the utility. Correct. So then I would think it was
now to happen on our budget calendar. Oh, it's going to definitely be. So, so I have a general question to ask about that topic, right? Because the pool committee needs to get moving, correct? Um, is everyone John, you can hear me, right? Is is everyone in favor of moving
consensus moving forward with the pool for the second year because it had such a great first year? Absolutely. Okay. So they should start working on potential upgrades. Can we help them find out the costs? I mean
already started. Do you have any questions? [Music] Councilwoman the process would be is that since it's a municipal department run by the recreation department, it would come through the recreation
director making a request for capital. Okay. Just give us your name, John. Janet, nice to see everyone again. Um, I don't really have many questions. Um, but I just wanted to add a little bit of color um to the report that was provided um with the numbers that David
mentioned. Um, so let's see. We had a surplus given to the current budget, but in terms of numbers and memberships in 2023, which was Tenacill's last full season, right? Um, there were 170 memberships.
This summer, the Tennifly Municipal Pool had 481 memberships. That's over 300. You guys did a great job recruiting people. You did. Teamwork. People love the pool. Yeah. So, the vast majority of the increase came from Tennifly residents. Good. Um, we had 210 more families from
Tennifly this year. So, that's an increase from 72 families to 282 Tennifly families. Um, we had 60 more memberships from senior residents. That's an increase from 30 to 90 memberships, which is actually 157 more
individual seniors from 105. Um, I also wanted to mention that at community night I was walking around and much of my time was spent um talking about the pool. This happened probably because we had so many more new members and so walking
around I and the shirt and bumped into more people. Um, but I also wanted to mention this because overwhelmingly they were very happy, right? Um, and they were happy not only because the pool was open, that the town had saved the pool from shutting down. Um, but because of how much the town and the burrow, the
council members, Mayor Zenna invested into the pool. You probably noticed picking up your daughter, the moment that you walk in into the pool facilities, you can see the change. Um, you see the new furniture that's been updated. We're no longer using 1960s furniture. We can see the uh new
concrete on the walkways, the repainted pool, um the new trees, the flowers, um etc. So, it looks beautiful. Um thank you. Uh they also um many of them mentioned basically if the rates stay the same, we'll come back next year, right? Good.
I didn't ask for that feedback, but they mentioned that too. So, you you guys should really start doing your thing. you know, you did a great job in 2025 season. So, now you've got to beat it for 2026. No, I mean, basically what you said, I
think we're just beginning. The momentum is there. Um, and we can only grow from here. Um, keep the rates the same. Um, just one little thing I wanted to just little shout out to the swim about the swim team. That's the t-shirt just really quick. Um, we had 94 swimmers on
the swim team this year. um which is more than double the number of swimmers we had last year. Great. Thanks to you all. Great. Um the swimmers ranged from ages 5 to 16. Um they practiced five days a week, Mondays to Fridays, had swim meets every Saturday, pep rallies before each each
swim meet. Um and this year we went undefeated. We uh won every dual meet. We won first place in the league championship. Uh we also had a number of swimmers who did very very well at the NJPMA uh swimming championship which brings together the top top summer
swimmers from Northern New Jersey. So overall great season for regular pool members for the swim team, everyone. Um so I think with more enhancements, we'll put together a plan for capital improvements for next year. Uh improved
operations for next year now that it's no longer the launch year, more programming to offer. I think we'll just get better. Wonderful. Congratulations again. May I ask May I ask one thing? Uh I think one of the things that we did well last year was to run a early signup
promotion such that we have financial visibility in terms of uh our own budgeting. Uh that'd be very very helpful to have done again and you know if prior to even year end would be a wonderful thing to do. We appreciate the visibility on the on the financing.
Yeah, I think you're 100% right, Councilman. And that is your plan this year. Right. Right. That's to do the early bird based on the same calendar times. All right. Details to come. I think the committee did a fabulous job. So, thank you both and and other committee members who aren't here
and the DPW really did a yman's job putting that whole situation in place. They did a great job. So, it's great. Thank you. All right. Now, you got to beat it this year. Next year. No pressure. All right. Thank you both.
Yeah. Go ahead. One of the big feedbacks, believe it or not, for very mosquito. So if we can, you know, anticipate, one of the things actually that the chief of police had brought up to me,
matter, was that we're at the very end of the schedule for Burton County this year. So if we could make a request to be the Are we part of a spring? Okay, that's fine. That's fine. If you don't mind just including Yeah, we could do that. Yeah.
All right. So, we're going to move on to public comment. Audience members wishing to speak will have a threeminut time limit to address the governing body the governing body on items on or off the agenda. Large groups are requested to have a spokesperson represent them. Any member of the public here in the
chambers that would like to speak? Yeah. Come on up to the microphone, please. Just give us your uh your name, not your address. Ethan Abraham. Okay. Just closer to the mic.
Uh one of the uh I guess the agendas tonight is the new field construction. So give us some background. uh tend to fly to the little league. In the fall, we run our travel program only, which is about 100 kids. In spring's big program, it's all rank and travel kids. There's
roughly between 275 300 kids in the program. Uh that includes everything. If you've been to our opening day parade, as most of you have, the little league field and field itself is going to become the focal point of the town itself. Sitting right across from McKay Middle School as you guys know. So,
while we're here to advocate for field construction and getting that rolling, we really, this bathroom is a accessible dugout side of things, we really want to advocate for continuing the project and making the Little League field and Roseville is just a really nice centerpiece for the town. And just a
little background, as you guys are investing in Little League program, our board voted this year to make T-ball free for all of our residents. Um, anyone who signs up, we've hired a coach to provide that. So it's a well organized program and we feel that we
want to contribute to our community as much as the council is contributing to us as well. So sort of pass that's great. Okay. Thank you both very much. Appreciate it. Keep up the great work. Any other members of the public in the
chambers here that would like to speak. All right. Is there anyone out on Zoom that would like to make a comment? Please feel free to speak up now. Omar, is there anyone out on Zoom or in the chambers anymore? See no hands, mayor. Okay, we're going to close public
comment time and we will move on to administrator's report. Does anyone have questions for the administrator? No questions for the administrator. While we're waiting for that, mayor, if I could just go right ahead back. Uh so on your agenda tonight is a award of
contract uh for the Little League Field Project uh for $66,7952. Um that will come later on your agenda after you hold the second reading of the additional appropriation. Um okay, from the from the uh open space
fund. Um and the east uh set of tennis courts uh at Roosevelt Commons uh that is on your agenda tonight and that will be awarded through and the ESCJ cooperative um to Field Turf USA Inc. Uh
the local contractor is Classic Turf Company LLC which is the company that's doing the West Bank and the East Bank uh pricing is $662,798. And that is on your consent agenda for tonight as well. Okay. Any questions for the
administrator? Thank you, David. All right. No questions. We're going to go on to um Thank you, David. New business. All right. Introduction of or what did you want to say?
Introduction of ordinance 25-28 naming and memorial policies. Um, Councilman Park, would you like to make a motion? First reading ordinance 25-28 7:30 p.m. or soon there. Okay. Could I have a second, please?
Second. Thank you. Omar, can you please read the title of the ordinance and conduct a roll call? Sure. Ordinance number 25-28 an ordinance of the burough of tennifly county of Bergen state of New Jersey amending chapter 22 honorary naming and
memorial policies in the revised general ordinances of the burough ty 2004 council member corser council member Dayton yes council member Michaels yes council member Dr. Okconor. Yes. Council member Park. Yes.
Council member Roleri. Yes. Okay. We're going to move on to the public hearings. Ordinance 25-26. Omar, could you please read the tit with read the confirmation of publication of the ordinance and the title? Sure.
Okay. Ordinance number 25-26. It was published in the Sunday September 21st edition of the record. It is an ordinance of the burough tenfly in the county of Bergen, New Jersey, appropriating $100,000 supplementing ordinance ordinances 24-09
and 25-13 for the upgrades at the Little League field. All right, I'm opening the floor for any public comment on ordinance 25-26 only. Is anyone in the chambers like to speak on this? Any members of the public? All right, any members of the public on
Zoom that would like to talk discuss this ordinance? Omar, is there anyone who looks like they want to speak? See no hands. Mayor. All right, we're going to close uh public uh comment time. Um Councilman Michaels, Council President Michaels, would you like to make a motion, please? Yes. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I move to
pass and adopt on second and final reading ordinance 25-26. Then notice the same shall be published according to law. Have a second, please. Second. Omar, please call the role. Council member Dayton. Yes. and I look forward to having
incredible new building. Council member Michaels present. Yes. I'm present and we know you're here. Council member Dr. Okconer. Yes. Council member Park. Yes. Council member. Yes.
Okay. Uh, ordinance 25-27, property maintenance. Um, Omar, could you please read the confirmation of publication of the ordinance and the title of the ordinance? Sure. Ordinance number 25-27, an ordinance amending property maintenance code to provide additional municipal
officers to assist in code enforcement, which was published in the Sunday, September 21st edition of the record. Okay, I'm going to open the floor for public comment on ordinance 25-27 only. Is there anyone in the chambers who would like to make a cop comment about
this ordinance? No. Okay. Anyone on Zoom who'd like to make a comment about this ordinance? Omar, do you see anyone who was raising their hand in the chambers or Zoom? I see no hands, mayor. Okay, we're going to close public comment. Councilwoman Dayton, would you like to make a motion?
I pass ordinance 25-27 and notice shall be according to Have a second, please. Second. Omar, could you please call the role? Council member Dayton, yes. Council member Michaels, yes.
Council member Dr. Okconor, yes. Council member Park, yes. Council member Roer, yes. All right. Thank you, everyone. Consent agenda. Um, could I get a motion to approve resolutions R25-471
through R25-498? Could I have a second? Second. Omar, could you please call the role? Council member Dayton. Yes. Council member Michaels. Yes. Council member Dr. Okconor. Yes. Council member Park. Yes.
Council member Roer. Yes. Could I get a Thank you. Could I get a motion to approve the minutes of September 16th, 2025 mayor and council meeting? Can I get a second? All in favor? Any oppose?
Okay. Committee reports. Councilwoman Dayton, do you have anything to report? The planning board is meeting this Wednesday. The application is actually for a Starbucks. So any residents that would like to come hear the meeting, the planning board will be here in this
chambers on this Wednesday, October 8th. That's an exciting one. Um the senior services met and they are still looking for a walking path for our seniors. They are hoping to have it near Roosevelt Commons and I believe David, they're working with you on that. Yes.
Um, and that's it. All right. Thank you, Councilwoman. Council President Michaels. Uh, just a reminder, it's coming up, uh, a week from Sunday. So, it's Sunday the 19th, we have our, uh, fall festival in
Higher Park. Um, midday. Please, uh, come down, enjoy. Uh, this one's going to be extra good. They have some, uh, some secrets I'm going to share that's, uh, coming down the pipe. Secrets are good. You got to be in it to win it. my mom talking. Anything else, Council President?
That's it. Thank you for that. Um, Councilman Park, nothing to report. Councilwoman Dr. Okconor, I just wanted to let everyone know that the uh, Girl Scout Troop 97159
did complete their silver award project where they did create that newspaper stand. That's over by Arresco Park by the mailboxes. So, I encourage anyone who wants to read a Suburbanite uh to
come on over and pick one up there. Uh and uh hopefully that'll help um you know, people support local journalism and we'll do a little part with taking away all that plastic rap from the
newspapers. So, I want to thank the DPW for their help and uh thank you all for helping that Girl Scout tree. Okay. Thank you, Councilwoman. Councilman Roglier, we had a police committee meeting.
Nothing uh of note to report uh for today. Uh two things to highlight. I'm very much looking forward to the senior center pancake breakfast, which I understand is on the 25th day of October. uh best pancakes in town. And I
want to thank the uh folks that came in a few weeks ago regarding the Suburbanite for their wisdom that uh I applied. No, no credit to myself. Uh but for those that wish to uh discontinue uh not for a lack of journalistic
interest, but for disposability the delivery of the Suburbanite, I found the process to be effective and I appreciate that. Yay. Very nice. Anything else, Councilman? No, sir. So, in my mayor's remarks, I'm going to
follow up on the pancake breakfast. I'll have you know that I will be cooking pancakes again three hours under very close supervision of people who can cook uh pancakes much better than me, but uh they will come out good. So, I'm looking forward. It's always a fun day. And uh this evening I had the
pleasure of presenting to the senior girls um soccer team the certificates of recognizing the senior girls this evening. Last week we did the senior boys were graduating and both teams are doing very well this season. The boys are still undefeated. The girls
are doing fabulous. Both fabulous teams. A lot of fun there. Okay. So we're ready to go into close session I believe. So, uh, councelor, could you read the, uh, language for us? At a meeting of the mayor and council of the burough of Tennifly County of Bergen, state of New Jersey held on
October 6, 2025. Be it resolved in compliance with NJSA 104-12, the mayor and council of the bureau of tennifly are going into closed executive session to discuss the following matters. Personnel state health benefits plan update attorney client privilege
litigation update real property use of burough property and acquisition of property and contract negotiation for non-collecting bargaining contract minutes will be taken to the meeting and released to the public at the time that the matters resolved. Can I get a motion to go into close? So move second please.
All in favor? Any opposed? Okay, see you all inside. Thank you. [Music] But it's okay. It's a beautiful device. I already thought it was a waste of time last time. I think where we're at.
Oh, now I'm definitely doing one here. completely new structure and you know basically I think I think the first thing that needs to really get determined where the council is really comfortable
being budget wise with the with the initial the initial program concepts right with the square footage just this is basically just pure raw math if you If you did a 750 if you did $750
a square foot times the square footage they're proposing you'd be about well it's with the FFN as well you'd be about um $48 million yeah and I did that math I guess it was closer to 500 square foot
well that's what the construction cost would be but if you add the FFD in um so thank you for this but so I mean obviously with the referendum I think it's pipe once they did that referendum. I wonder Yeah, it's Yeah, it' be it'll be hard.
Will be impossible to live here. Um, but if you if you if you limit it to just a community center, you probably could get it into a 25 $30 million range. You know, initially I had it connected to I don't know if you've ever seen my sketches
to the cup. Yeah. And so it was the outside of it was um connected and we had taken not where the leaf composting is but actually where the senior parking lot is and then shifted the senior parking lot
down. Yes, that's where Jesus Christ. All right, I'm trying to figure out how can I get them on soon. Can I get a motion to close?
Can I get a motion to close the public meeting, please? So move. All in favor? Any opposed? A second, please. Second. All in favor? Any opposed? All right, everyone. Good night. Thank you, Omar. Anyway, so
on the status on the make it Wednesday. That's fine.