I think you're scared of being basic. Public meetings act PL 1975 chapter 231. The notice requirements have been satisfied. The meeting dates for the year are confirmed at the annual meeting are posted on the public bulletin board in the lobby of the municipal center and
published in the record within the first 10 days of the new year. Salute to the flag, please. I alsy justice for all Mark. Can I have a roll call, please? Council member Corsair here.
Council member Dayton here. Council member Michaels present. Council member Dr. Okconor here. Council member Park here. Council member Roleri here. Mayor Zenna here.
Okay. The first item on the agenda is the uh speed bump inst speed bump installation on North Lyle Street. So we know we have our traffic engineer here and the police chief. Correct. Yes. All right. So are we doing a they doing a presentation or I would start with the chief. He has
done some he has some data uh specifically for North Visiation. Come on up, Chief John, please. Omar, can we get everyone on the screen or is just the speaker? How is up with Zoom? I can try to get everyone up. Thanks for coming tonight, Chief.
Absolutely. Thank you for having me. Okay. So, uh, our administrator Fans Law had, uh, instructed me something to look into a complaint about speeding on North Ly. I would also forward you some
emails. Um, uh, obviously part of the problem is obviously the speed of vehicles, but I think also too, I think it's it's two prime vehicles that are um, driving down to circumvent the traffic light. That is a different um
uh issues which which we make a recommendation on that. Uh so when we get a complaint like this someone comes to speeding obviously something there is something you can put a police car out there we can do radar and that is effective uh it's effective while the officer is there but then again when officer leaves and people have a short
memory something then it kind of goes by the wayside. Also too we like to do is we like to actually establish that there is a speeding problem. So, we we have a I think I mentioned it mentioned in the past. We have a little black nondescript box. It's a it's a a traffic uh data
collection box. And what it does is you can't other than you don't see any cameras, but it looks through the the wall of of the box itself up and it counts cars and it measures speeds. And we did that. I forwarded it to the administrator. I will forward it to John Jar the engineer. Um and for a two-eek
period, that is it is a summer period. I will I will mention that um one thing in in engineering something is that we look at you something there's diff there's there's a few things that you'll look at something one thing is that we weigh heavily on is the 85th percentile and
out of the all the vehicles that traveled in a 15-day period um the 85th percentile uh 85% of the cars are doing 27 miles an hour combined down the street so 25 mph road um most of the
cars are compliant Now, we do have obviously a couple outliers, but every street has that and and some of the some of the faster speeds that we saw, very few, but sometimes, you know, something I I I question whether it's it's one of my
cars going through a call that's that's moving pretty quickly. But also too, it could be obviously um you know, someone driving through the through the area too quickly. Um, one thing I will say about and I don't have the the numbers John has it but uh this particular
street it's a narrow street and one thing that I know from it's a wide street chief. It's a narrow street. Oh narrow. Yes. It's uh this in North L narrow streets. They're call streets that that I would almost like to see like parking limits on one side. Right. But then again this parking on both
sides probably has a slowing down effect. That theory of constriction. But what what I and and and I don't live on the street and I'm not um I'm not sympathetic to the residents concerns if they have kids there and I get that. But one thing I will say about narrow
roadways is that the vehicles have the um appearance they're moving faster than they really are. Uh you put them on a big road looks like they're not moving at all. So sometime we've had this problem in other other areas and we'll put that box out. They're not speeding but they look like they're speeding.
the data is telling me that obviously there's some people going over um but but the majority are actually compliant. Uh that being said, you know, I don't want to just um stop there. Um obviously there are other things that we can put out done in the past like painting,
thermal paint, plastic painting, 25 miles per hour signage. Um there is a request for speed bumps or speed humps I should say something on this particular roadway based upon the data that I'm seeing here. Uh I I I don't believe it warrants it. Um and then also to when it
comes to the speed humps and John may be talking about that here in a little bit. We have we don't have speed homes in any part of town. And before we just put them anywhere arbitrarily, we really need to establish and I want to speak out of turn somebody um a criteria and a policy for that. He'll speak in a little
bit. Um but the the data and again it is I I will uh I don't if the residents are listening something it is summertime so that so the traffic probably a little bit different now when it comes to I think in in the communications that I had seen in the emails has to do if they believe vehicles are certain branding
traffic which I believe probably is happening also too. One thing we can look into is we can look into the term restrictions at certain times. So, you know, if you're traveling, you know, west eastbound on on West Clinton Avenue, um you know, some, you know, uh
possibly make, you know, a term restriction uh at rush hour or actually um maybe morning or or both like like the school streets have. What's that? Like a lot of the school streets have the elementary. Well, the school streets are one way temporarily, but like but you'll see like a turn restriction for a period of
time because commuting traffic is going that way. So, that is an option. I'm not saying we could do that and then you flip it on the way back. Um, but again, you have to you have to know where your traffic's coming from and we can do counts. Can I ask it? Maybe that's an option.
I have a question. So, you mentioned on this street 85% of the traffic is at like 26 or 27 miles per hour. What's the criteria at which point, you know, so that means 15% of whoever it is is speeding. What does that 15% have to
turn into before it becomes like um you know something that we would consider alternative like a speed bump or a speed hump sort of situation? I don't have that answer for you. I think that's what we're trying to establish here is the engineer whoever
the question we put a uh you know a policy together that puts criteria that okay that that would would uh some some some measures for those right now it's probably subjective right the numbers are are few and far between when
it comes to speed humps and I know some places that have way too many of them some places just have have struck that balance it's really not my issue it's more your issue that you put one on one set of streets roadway, you're going to probably have yourself in another 40 come out there. And I I'm
pretty certain that we don't want to have a roadway there of the town of speedomes everywhere because it becomes problematic. And also too, you know, the world department, the fire department, but they they need to be also just something um uh spoken to also just um
because I know that they are they have their issues with them also too and I don't want to speak out of term there also too. So, um, that's what I have for this roadway. We have, again, I know we have some paintings. So, we we had some success, I
believe, up on, uh, on Leroy Street with fog lines and and and slow down and 25 mile per hour, something. We can do that. The road is narrow, but we probably speak to the engineer, something to see what we think the right fit is there. And we also did get some space some radar speed signs also to the
uh through the cap capital budget the the solar p powered ones. I know they make me slow down. Yeah, they do. They're effective. You know some So we have Woodland, we have them on on East Clinton Avenue Road, a couple locations that we probably feel that they they can they're warranted and
if anything I think that would probably be maybe maybe again we have to arrive there with on this road but I think that would be probably the best first step before we go to the permanent. Okay. Because once you put them in,
anyone have questions for the chief? Questions for the chief? Anyone who's on Zoom? No. Okay. So, John Jar is going to come up next. Thank you, Chief. Thanks, Chief. It's without a question that I agree
with the chief statements. Um, what I've taken the liberty of is I've put together uh memorandums. Uh David has them via email. Uh I'd like to propose that the council review this and maybe at the next meeting consider uh some
some adoption to our ordinance on a policy for the for the burrow. Uh with regard to speed humps and with regard to all always stops. We get a lot of questions. Uh it is a a very prevalent thing today where residents are
concerned about speeding on their streets and about asking for additional stops. We just can't put them everywhere. I'd like to make sure the council thoroughly understands that speed humps are the last thing that we do, not the first. All right. Speed humps the most severe traffic calming
measure you could use. Okay. Why do so? Okay. So, let's assume that's Let us just say that no matter what you do, sooner or later an ambulance or a firetruck has to go down that street and they're bad for those vehicles. Right. So, speed humps are the last thing I want to do. Correct. Right. What I want to do first is all
the other things that chief recommended corner bump out striping signage the 20 that actually um maybe you might want to consider um we're using this in blue right now he's got a movable speed limit sign it's a little trailer it's adorable and it does great and every you know we
get a complaint we go out we do the study he gives me the data and we determine he is so now obviously it's a much bigger community 50,000 people right so um you know we have to strategically place the trailer because we can't get it everywhere. But that might be something to consider that we
can have a movable sign. There's also the regular sign that Chief uses that's movable on a a temporary mount, you know, where you can charge the batteries up and put it from place to place. Those are other options you could do. I love that sign. Okay, that is you want to use that before you use speed pumps. Last
thing, okay, but you may need them. If you need them, I think we should adopt the policy and it just shouldn't be we get them every time somebody asks for I think we should all agree that there's there's good sound engineering judgment necessary to start putting obstructions in a road. All right. People can get hurt on speed bumps. It's it's bad for
automobiles, but the worst case scenario, it's not good for our our emergency service vehicles. They need to traverse roads at the speed limit as needed without obstruction. So, um David has these via email. Actually, I don't uh I just checked my email.
Yeah, if you could email that to I know we spoke about and can I give the original paper copies to the chief and chief or give them to the clerk and he'll make copies. That's even easier then. So I'm going to give Omar these and before I give it to Omar though I like to answer the mayor's question. All right, the criteria for
speed bumps is generally speaking uh no matter what title 39 requires that the road have less than 3,000 cars per day. So in a 24-h hour period it must have less than 3,000 vehicles. Any more than 3,000, it no longer can can be viable for speed
bumps. Okay, that's title 39 requirement. Uh, a roadway segment with a posted speed of less than 30 miles an hour. So, you can't put speed bumps on any road that's posted 30 or above. Okay, a roadway segment that is the 85th percentile speed between 25 and 30 miles an hour. A roadway segments that has a
frequency of accidents uh five or more incidents within a 12-month period. So if you have no accidents at all, speed bumps are out. All right. Roadway segments adjacent to schools, public green space, and areas frequented by children and pedestrians. In other
words, that's one of the criteria that that um that the engineers have and it's in the IT, which is another one of the guidelines that we follow. It says if you're by a school or by a park, you have to give it additional consideration for speed bumps because obviously we're we're going to see a lot of children.
You know, we want to keep those speeds down. So that's when you you should see speed bumps in those areas. So I'm going to interrupt you for a second. So this title 39 this says New Jersey statutes statute 39. Sorry. So so the street we were just talking about based on what
you just said doesn't doesn't qualify because of the accident level and the speed levels. Correct. It does not Okay. All right. Okay. The data that the chief show it doesn't qualify. Um that doesn't mean that that we can't go back and look at another day. But we have the complaint. I agree with the chief that the the right thing
to do is we should address it in some manner. I think additional signage, maybe some striping, and you know, maybe in the future if we're going to be milling and paving the road someday or making changes there, considering corner bumpouts or some some you know, either strike parking or when you more organize
a road, drivers tend to use it in a more organized fashion. So, if you have a road that's properly straight according to the manuals and you keep the lane nice and narrow, people tend to drive reasonable speeds. Okay. And that's everything I have to say about that other than to answer any questions about speed bumps and stop
signs. Okay. So, who has questions? Anyone? Go ahead, John. Just out of curiosity, the manual on uniform traffic control devices. I saw that in doing some other ordinances that that was adopted by the bureau, does that address speed bumps or would or speed humps or would that be a
separate ordinance? Because the bureau has adopted that by ordinance. Okay. You've adopted the statute. If you've adopted title 39 into ordinance, which everybody has. Okay. I believe chief his one is codified which is very rare by the way. Yeah. No. Okay. Just so you know that's extremely rare. All right. That title 39 adopts
MTCD. So you're go you're good. Right. Speed bumps are covered by multiple texts though. It's covered by title 39 first of all. All right. Second of all by um METCD which has some guidance on how to put them and how to stripe and how to sign it. And then last but not least institute of transportation
engineers provides additional guidance. So we try to use all three. So we have a holistic approach to scheme. I guess my my direct question is is there a need to separately adopt a policy if we've already incorporated it and codified the incorporation of title
39 and MTCD? That is subjective and it is up to decision of this board and this council. My recommendation is to consider it so that the rule is clear for everyone. This way, Sammy who lives on street A doesn't feel that he's being mistreated
because because Susie who lives on street C got speed bumps and Sammy didn't. Okay. So, if we have a unified policy, you don't have to adopt an ordinance. What you can do is you can adopt it as a town policy. All right. And post it on your website. And that's that's another another one of the one of
my towns has done it in that matter. So, they just simply adopt it as a policy. Post it on the website and say, "Here's the rules. Everybody has to go by." All right. So, you're recommend you're emailing we're going to get an email document with recommendations that we'll reconsider at the August meeting. So, we want to make sure this is on the August
meeting to be recon, you know, to be considered. Any um uh I just have a quick question. The policy just the policy we're looking into. Correct. Correct. Correct. Um so
at this time, yeah, go ahead Julie, please. So, just a quick uh followup to one of the things that was mentioned in the past. It wasn't about the speed humps, but it was about specifically the four-way stop sign that's at Highwood
and Jay. I know we were getting some flashing stop lights, stop, I'm sorry, flashing stop signs. And I think that if the chief is still there, um this would uh if I could just get a time frame on
that, that could be the um the equipment is bought. We're uh DPW is scheduled to install it. So as soon as they get some time to install it, it'll get it'll get installed. Oh, very good. Very good. Because that's
a place that uh it's a bit rough sometimes. Thank you. Thank you guys. Any other questions? No. Okay. Thank you, John. We appreciate it. Um, there might be I don't know if you
want to stay for the recommendation for the recommendation for Piermont Road if you want to stay for that. The ordinance introduction based on for closing. Yeah, that's going to be very soon. Okay, we're going to move. Thank you, John. We're gonna chief. Thank you.
We're going to move on to public comment. Is there anyone in the chambers who would like to make a public comment? Do you see anyone? Omar, anyone online who would like to make a public comment? I see one member of the public, Andrew McKesh. Would you like to make a comment, Andrew? Well, you should
just dropped off. I guess he's shy this afternoon. Okay, Omar, I think we're going to close public comment, right? Yes, ma'am. Okay, we're closing public comment. Any questions on the administrator's report for anyone? From anyone? Lauren. Hi. Wait a minute.
Time out a second, Lauren. Andrew, did you have a question? Nope. No, I'm fine. Go. You got it. Go ahead, Lauren, please. Hi. Thank you. Uh, sorry, I'm not there. I didn't like the road conditions. So, I have a couple questions on both the pool and the code enforcement. So, I'll start
with the pool. So, I got a little bit of a feedback on the pool about um the need for more appropriate changing spaces for the guests and a more I would say
cleaned up designated area for the lifeguards. And I was wondering if we have a pool committee meeting that these concerns can be brought to. So yeah, the pool committee is meeting on Wednesday. We're meeting Wednesday.
Okay. Um can you relay that those two things? So it's a so some changing areas. Yeah. So in the locker rooms they took out all the benches and some of the more elderly residents and also small
children need to be able to sit to change. So there's a request for some seating in the locker rooms. for some what in the locker rooms? Seating or Oh, seating. Okay. All the bench we can look into the seating. I mean, the uh the bathrooms, including
the changing areas, were all um redone this year. Uh so, we can take a look at how we can put some seating and other u modifications in there. Great. Thank you. And then the second one is that um I guess the lifeguards have a designated space towards the back
corner and from what I understand there's um some issues back there, some animals, some noncle non-cleaned areas and so we've got to look at that. Okay. Yes, please. The lifeguards are really
feeling like they don't want to be back there. Okay. All right. We'll look at that. Okay. And then I have a second question about the code enforcement. So, um I am getting a lot of feedback from residents that when they call in for code enforcement at off hours, they
don't understand that they could also call the police because I've said, "Oh, have you called the police?" And they say, "No, we don't want to bother the police with this." But I was wondering if our burl wants to consider an after hours number for code enforcement. You know, a lot of times people come
home to issues or things happen on weekends where our code enforcers are not in the office or even at, you know, 5:00, 6 o'clock in the evening. So, um, I do think that it's difficult because you can't really call the burrow, which doesn't have an operator at those hours
to then direct you to the police and the code enforcement line doesn't really say go call the police. Um, so maybe we want to have sort of an on call person answering the phone for code enforcement, you know, Lauren. So this might actually
be a very simple fix by um changing the voicemail message that people hear when code enforcement is closed and directing them to call the police, whatever. So and also turning on the auto and turning on the auto attendant. So let's they may not Yeah, they may not get to that message because they're not even
getting through the main telephone line. That's what I'm talking about, Lauren. We can we're we're looking at turning on the auto attendant uh Okay. to simplify reaching Bur Hall employees. So, we're in the process of doing it as we're completing the conversion with it. I mean, I think our code enforcement is
doing a great job. I just, you know, it's very restrictive on when we can get, you know, answers. And sometimes, you know, the code enforcement will say to them that's not a code enforcement problem and then they'll go and and call someone else. But without having somebody at those other hours, I really
do feel like it's a disservice. Okay. One of the things that we we would need to consider also is potentially bringing on a third part-time code enforcement officer um as we continue to add ordinances and responsibilities to code enforcement. We are covering the entire
town with two part-time code enforcement officers. Okay. You want to put that on the agenda at a future meeting? Let's hash it out. Okay. Any other questions for David? Yes. Separate from the need for changing areas etc. How are we doing financially
on the pool in terms of our burn rate versus our budget? Go ahead. Do you want Susan is here. Um Susan was on vacation last week. So she's literally putting a report together today and tomorrow for our meeting on Wednesday. So once that is complete will circulating be emailed
to the entire governing body. Cool. Thank you. Number two. Go ahead. My pond is green. The uh the Well, the pump is on. I see that. So, have my pond is green. I I think we just need to figure out uh adding some airators or something to the
pond. You know, before we thought was it that the well was shut off and it wasn't circulating, but it is circulating. But the uh the green uh so the waterfall is enough for the immediate vicinity, but not enough for the whole pond. Yeah. So, we got to figure that out. Okay. Bring it up. Number three, final. We
have a fox problem. Fox problem. We have Oh, I agree on that one. We have a fox problem and people are very concerned, myself included. So, I'm self-promoting here about our animals and our pets and we have foxes that have uh had babies specifically on Park
Street where we know where the den is. And people are very concerned about not letting their dogs out. Uh reasonably so, because mama fox and killed for babies and uh 17 cocka balloons look awfully attractive to foxes apparently. So I don't know what we can do about
that. But if we know where a den is and we know what these things are. Is there a relocation possibility or any prospecting of some of these? So several of the mayors and myself have been having some casual conversations about asking our friends in Trenton at
the fish and game group. Okay. I guess they're part of the D. I'm not sure. I don't remember which acronym they're part of about uh uh convening a meeting convening a meeting of fish and game and mayors around five
or six towns around here to talk about foxes but also the deer situation which is getting worse and worse. So we're going to try to get that set up as quick as possible. Tomorrow's good tomorrow would be fabulous. I can I can
I can here's a here's a promise I'll keep is that the meeting will not take place tomorrow. Okay. Okay. We're going to try we're going to try for August though. Okay. And we'll report back with that. Um any other questions for David. I I do Oh, Lauren, go ahead.
Sorry, this is actually the last part. It's really for John Jar. Um and thank you John for the earlier presentation but um the river edge median concept that was my hope that we would get that project started or underway at least with permissions from the county. So I
would like to know when to meet on that project. I am I am terribly I am terribly sorry for the delay, but our humble and very hardworking assistant county engineer Nancy Dargas who's helping with this has been on vacation. She recently returned
and her and I have been trading calls uh since Friday. Uh I will redouble my efforts and track her down and if I can't get anything resolved by Wednesday, I'll call David and I'll get David through the mayor's help. John, thank you. I I mean, if she's on vacation, no worries. I just, you know,
I'm anxious to get this project started. I think it's a great one to have a median and some more um safe traffic on River Edge Road and better beautifification for our downtown. Very excited to start working on it. Understood. And I'm sorry for the delay.
No worries. Thank you. Okay, there's no other questions for David. We're going to move on. I don't see any hands to correspondence for the block party at 55 Hudson Avenue. Everyone good with this?
Yes, Mr. Mayor. Okay. All right. So, that's good. Let's move on to new business. Introduction of ordinance 25- 22 vacating and repurposing portions of
Puremont Road. Um, Councilman Michael, would you like to make a motion here? Yes. Councilman Rolieri, why don't you do it? Introduce on first reading ordinance 25-22 and set the hearing for August 4th, 2025 to 7:30 p.m. or soon
thereafter. Could I have a second, please? Second. Omar, could you please read the title of the ordinance and conduct a roll call? Sure. Ordinance number 25-22, an ordinance of the burough 10ifi county of Bergen vacating and repurposing portions of
Piermont Road for municipal purposes. Council member Corsair. Yes. Give you a thumbs up. Okay. Yes. Council member Dayton. Yes. But I I would like to just ask the
traffic engineers. Uh there are complaints for that side of town to get through the town faster. So as soon as we can get the rest of the lighting done on the traffic intersections, please as soon as possible since we're going to be closing this off.
Council member Michaels. Yes. Council member Dr. Okconor. Yes. CS Park. Yes. CS Rolair. Yes. Okay. Okay. Ordinance uh 25-20
sign regulations. Omar, could you please read the confirmation of publication of the ordinance and the title of the ordinance? Sure. Ordinance number 25-20. It was published in the June June 22nd edition of the record. It is
an ordinance of the Burough Tennified County of Bergen, state of New Jersey to amend chapter 35 entitled land development regulations article 8 entitled zoning regulations sections 35- 802.24 24 entitled sign regulations as
it relates to regulations set forth for A-frame or sandwich board signage. Okay. I'd like to open the floor for any public comments on ordinance 25-20 only. Uh there any members of the public in the chambers that would like to speak? Omar, do you see anyone here?
Okay. Is there anyone online who would like to make a public comment on this ordinance only? Is there anyone online? Omar? See no hands. Okay. We're going to close public comment time. Uh, Councilman Clark, would you like to make a motion, please? I move to pass and adopt on second and final reading ordinance 2520 and that
notice of same shall be published according to law. Have a second, please. Second. Omar, could you please conduct a roll call? Council member Corsair, yes. Council member Dayton, yes. Council member Michaels, yes.
Council member Dr. Okconor, yes. Council member Park, yes. Council member Roler. Yes. Okay. Uh, ordinance 25-21, outdoor dining. Omar, could you please read the confirmation of publication of
the ordinance and the title? Sure. Ordinance number 25-21. It was published in the July 6th edition of the record. It is a it is an ordinance of the burough of tennifly county of Bergen state New
Jersey amending chapter 4 section 25 of the revised sher ordinances of the burough tennifi 20 2004 to provide additional outdoor dining mechanism. Okay. Uh I'd like to open the floor for any public comments on ordinance 25 uh-
21. Omar, is there anyone here in public who looks like they have their hand up would like to speak? See no hands, sir. Okay. Is there anyone online on Zoom who has their hand up that would like to speak? I see no hands now. Okay, we're going to close uh public comment. Uh, Council President Michaels,
would you like to make a motion, please? Yes, Mr. Mayor. I move to pass and adopt on second and final reading ordinance 25-21 and that notice of saying shall be published according to law. I have a second, please. Second. Omar, could you please conduct a roll call? Customers,
yes. Customer Dayton, yes. Council member Michaels, yes. Council member Dr. Okconor, yes. Council member Park, yes. Council member Roer, yes.
Okay. Could I get a motion to approve uh R25-3? Oh, we're doing a public. Okay. Hold on. My mistake. Oh, you're right. Okay. Okay. Bergen County uh open space
application R25-367. David, would you like to give us a brief overview of the grant application? Yes. Um the council will remember back in March we had uh sent in our preliminary uh request um which we included all four um tennis courts on
the uh on the west side. Um the county got back to me. our request was exceeding the entire budget for the uh the region. So this this project is is modifying it to request the funding for one tennis court at $175,000.
Okay. I'd like Thank you, David. I'd like to open the floor for any public comments on the open grade space uh grant. Anyone in the chambers here? Omar, see no hands, mayor. Oh, wait. Sorry. Question.
their input or is it 175 by half the 175 their input? Yeah, we would be Yeah, on the project we're contributing the rest, right? Right. Right. Yeah. Matching. But actually, that was Julie, you have a question? Yeah, that was going to be my question.
But usually, let's let's be honest, it's really not 5050. It's it's one3, right? So I just like is it 175 is coming from the county and we'll pay the rest and it's going to give us just one tennis
court or all the tennis court. What what's it going to be ultimately? David, you have a sense of that? She said 175 is the county portion. What's the rest of it going to be approximately? Well, if you recall, we we awarded a contract for $700,000 for
the to the low bidder, and that work is scheduled to start in August. Um, so it would be one they would the county's uh input would be 175 out of the 700. Okay. Okay. Omar, is there any members of the
public online looking to make a public comment? No hands, mayor. Okay. We're going to close um public uh comment time. Uh Councilwoman Dr. Okconor, would you like to make a motion?
Uh a motion for the uh for the open for resolution uh R25-367. Okay. But on on the agenda, it it doesn't seem to is it linked through the public hearings one? That was weird.
Sorry. Okay, I got it. Apologies. Um, yes. Okay. Um, I move to adopt resolution 25-367. Okay. Could I have a second, please? Second. Omar, please conduct a roll call. Council Corsair.
Yes. Council member Dayton. Yes. Council member Dayton. Counciloman D. I said yes. I guess you guys didn't hear me. Yes. Council Michael.
Yes. Council member Dr. Okconor. Yes. Council member Park. Yes. Council member Roler. Yes. Thank you. Okay. I'd like to I'd like to uh ask for a motion uh for the consent
agenda resolution R25-368 through R25-395. I'd like to take something out for discussion. Have a second. What? I'd like to take some stuff out for discussion. Which ones? Um, I'd like to take out the ropes
course at the Tennifly Nature Center for discussion. Wait, which which one is it? Ropes course. The ropes course are uh 391. 391. What else? I'd like to take out 395. I'd like to actually discuss 395 before I need to
take it out. I'm not sure I want to take it out. Yeah, the um the the uh 395 was just the correction of the amount. Um the the original resolution had 567,000 e even and the actual amount uh of the
contract was 567985. So all this is doing is correcting the amount to the to the contract amount of 567985. I'm sorry I couldn't follow the numbers. not writing down. That went higher or lower? Um, it's it's the the correct amount is
$985 higher than the original resolution, but nothing else changed in our road program. This is to cover all Nothing else changed. Yeah, there was And when will the roads for the public the number in the first resolution was incorrect? So, I want to talk about the road
program for a second because obviously PSEG has ripped up our entire town or I'm sorry, whoever's ripping up our entire town. um not PSEG the typing um and so many residents are calling in
about the state of their streets. So when is that going to be remedied especially you know these streets I mean everywhere and terrible paving patches. So PSEG has been working in Tennifly for a little over a year now,
right? Maybe 16 months even. And they have recently started the repaving in the same spots they started in, which was in the um southwestern section of the town by Stillman. And so we should reasonably
expect them to be in town for probably another year at least. I mean, residents are really asking, "When is my street going to be paved?" I get these calls often. Um, you know, Capel just someone on Capel just called me. They thought they blew a tire out. I
mean, this is these patches. Can we go around with our hot box and at least fill in where PSEG um old paving didn't take? We have to do something. We can have we can ask PSEG to address
it. I did have um Andy Hiplet uh schedule a meeting with PSENG and their contractor with burl officials. Uh I think it's scheduled for Thursday of this week. And have we confirmed with Andy that whatever's in our 2025 road program
isn't going to get reopened? Yeah, that's already been um uh coordinated. Coordinated. Yeah, it's on the west side areas that um that PSNG are not touching. they've touched already or they haven't touched. No, that that they're not going to be touching at all
because they've confirmed there's no lead piping there or they're just not touching it. They're just not touching it in whatever they're doing in this two-year plan. Yeah, they have a whole schedule of they inform us of what roads are getting ripped up. We coordinate the road paving with them so that we're not paving new
roads and they're ripping it up right away. But I'm not satisfied, David, with that response from them because if in the future in years three and four they want to rip up those roads. I want to know now whether there's lead piping under those streets. I need a confirmation.
No, this is all these are these are gas lines. Okay. Gas lines. Whatever they're ripping up and doing, I need a confirmation now that those are either finished or acceptable standards.
So I think one thing that may be helpful so a couple things so and please correct me if I'm wrong. So the first one is the reason why most of this is being done is uh you know resident safety pulling the gas uh meters and glass lines out of the
house from the inside to the outside. So step one is the hope is that they're doing this you know all there's too many houses blowing up around the country which is bad right? That's bad. Good. Good. So that's point one. Point two is I think what's
important is we understand did they give us a timeline for this and they're off that timeline or are they sticking to it? And of course we're all frustrated. I'll put my road up next to uh anybody's on. Yeah. So so I'm up there. But I just
want to make sure that if we have a schedule, are they keeping to it or Yes. It's just frustrating to all of us and we just have to Yeah. So, so they they generally said in the winter that they were going to be paving starting in April. That paving didn't start until June.
So, they they did a trunch in June and they have a second trunch of paving that they're doing in September for this year. And then there's paving scheduled for uh next spring. And is there any accountability that we hold them to? I think one thing we have to remember is how wet this year was,
you know, so weather impacts the the paving schedule. So that's likely the April to June considering how many lacrosse games I was wet at. That's probably what actually it's PSEG is behind in in doing their residential connections. I
I also want to say but I I also want to point out to to what Councilman Dayton was saying. If they go and tear up a street within five years that the burrow has paved it, they're responsible on their dime to pave it end to end, not just the half that that they've
impacted. So it behooves them to give us the schedule because they're the ones that have to foot the bill if it has to get repaid. I will say I find it very haphazard. You know, I remember discussing this years ago that they were coming in to do this
work and they didn't identify roads that they wanted to do work on and then those were our DOT grants. That's how bad it was. So, I don't want to make those mistakes going forward. I want our road program to, you know, spend the money wisely. It's very expensive. It's a huge
chunk of our budget. Um, so for 2025, I'm hesitant to pave roads that they haven't done a thorough check about whether the gas lines need to be replaced. Can we bring PSG to Can we invite them to a council meeting with Andy?
No, I think it's a great idea. Do you want to invite PSG to a council meeting? I think it be helpful to understand kind of timelines what we can do as a council maybe to to make it easier for them and for them to stay better on track. Let's invite them we here at telephone.
Yeah, let's invite them. Okay, Jamie, you had a question. Yeah, let's try to get them here for the next council meeting. Jamie, I think that was to to my point that I think the communication is very is very key. I think people can be patient if
they know that it's happening and when it's happening, but I don't think there's a lot of communication going out to the residents and and the roads are really bad. They're really bad. So, I think we have to just be on top of the communication. Okay,
I like that. I agree. Um, go back to my first one, which is the ropes course. I would like a discussion, but I don't need to pull that ordinance out of the consent agenda, but I would like to pull the ropes course for discussion.
Resolution. Okay. Yes. Thank you. All right. So, let's do the rest of the consent. Any other questions? That's 391. Okay. I'd like to get a motion to approve resolutions R25-368 through R25-390
and R25392 through R25395. So, could I have a second? Second. Omar, please call the role. Council member Corsair, yes. Council member Dan, yes.
Council member Michaels, yes. Council member Dr. Okconor, yes. Council member Park, yes. Council member Roer, yes. Okay, Lauren, you had a question about 391. Yeah, I think this needs a little bit of
a public discussion. I know that I've been called and approached by residents in the past week or so asking I guess something went up on social media asking about this ropes course concept at the Tennifly Nature Center. Um I don't know
if Andrew McKesh is still online. I would like to hear from the Tennifly Nature Center as to their intentions um and their support or non-sup support of this res of this oh hey Andrew of this um resolution. Again I uh would like to
support the nature center and developing wonderful familyfriendly activities for our community. I think that's an amazing idea. Um, but I do want to just make sure that the details are what they want it that what we as a council and the nature center want it to be if that's
I can speak to this a little bit uh as well probably uh David and Mar can jump in but because I liazison over there this is this is basically there is a subcommittee on the nature center and
this is the exploration stage that they are uh soliciting thing uh in this uh request you know uh companies that would be able to
uh meet the requirements. So this is not uh you know something that is uh to be signed on the dotted line per se but this is in response to uh basically a request for them to inquire about
pursuing this. Uh David, did you want to say something more about it? Yeah. Uh basically, uh uh the process has been reworked. Uh Wendy has uh created the current resolution. Um and we're looking to cast a wide net. Uh I
think, you know, basically we we need to see uh some national firms that have done this to the extent of this uh quote unquote kissing the trees type of uh of process. And uh I have been in touch with a couple of companies that do that.
Um, so it's really just putting the RFP out there and what we're looking for, I believe, is to get them to uh come in and look at the area and then sort of inform us of what they think would be sustainable and doable and uh
potentially some type of revenue sharing opportunity and um whether it's feasible to do this this ropes course. So I think that's where this resolution basically gets us uh with setting a deadline publishing the RFP uh to satisfy our
procurement laws but then setting a deadline to see if there are if there is some interest from some firms that do this. So any other I just wanted the public to understand Lauren just to to your question um the
development has been with David myself and a uh member of the board who was asked to speak with us in order to put together the the criteria. So it's not being done in a vacuum. Um unfortunately what was circulated on social media
media was incorrectly put out. So that's not what is happening here. Um, this is I didn't even putting out a scoping uh for someone to come in and build and operate on behalf of the burrow and the nature center if it's in the nature center to operate this
ropes course and see if it's practical and if we can move forward with it. It would be basically casting the wide net as as David had indicated. Nothing finalized. Okay. I'm sorry I couldn't understand that. Yeah, I was going to say nothing is
finalized or anything. This is still in the, you know, find out what companies can do. Think of it like when we put out the RFP for electric vehicle charging stations, right? We said, put a wide net company come in, let us know where where does it
make sense, doesn't make sense, make a proposal, and then the council considered it as to whether or not it it was something that you all wanted to move forward with. The difference here is obviously the nature center would be also in on the conversation on whether or not it works.
Thank you. What I'm trying to do is let the public understand the process. Um and I think also it's very important in this um this paperwork that none of the trees would be cut, none of the trees would be harmed. I am asked those questions. You know, there's a
consideration of wildlife and noise and crowd control. Um that's what I read in the RFP. So, I just want to make sure whoever's listening out there, if you know any of our residents are concerned that they are getting the correct answers here. Um,
it certainly is addressing all that. I just want to point out whatever you read is not what is going on in the RFP. That was going out under a lease. We've changed the process. Okay. The other that document should not be looked at. Whatever was attached to our agenda is
what I what I looked at. Um, the other question I had is the concessions as part of this. Am I saying that word? Concession is a type of RFP under the local public contracts law, which essentially allows you the opportunity
to evaluate the responses that come in rather than going with a straight lowest responsible bidder type of situation. So, it grants more flexibility to the bureau. You don't have to award anything. You could look at the criteria of the background of the company, make
sure they're qualified, look at what their qualifications are, their financial stature. It is not a lowest responsible bidder. So, it's a term of art that's used under local public contracts for this con type of process, but is the intention to have food and drink out in the nature?
No, no, no. It's called a concession because we're asking a company to step in the shoes of the burrow to build and operate. It's not a concession stand as that term is of of um you know at the pool or something where you buy food and drinks. It is again a legal term of art
under the local contracts law. Thank you. And I think the public was very confused about that which is why I wanted to say it out loud here tonight. So thank you for the answers Wendy. Okay. Any other questions on this ordinance on this resolution?
Okay. I got a motion to approve resolution R25-391. Please move. I have a second. Omar, please call the role. Council member Corsair, yes. Council member Dayton, yes. Council Michaels,
yes. Council member Dr. Okconor, yes. Council member Park, yes. Council member Roler, yes. Could I get a motion to approve uh the minutes of June 16, 2025, the mayor and council meeting and June 24th, 2025,
the special meeting of the mayor and council meeting? So move. Second. Have a second. Second. All in favor? Any opposed? Any opposed? Number
for the folks that weren't special. I was gonna say it was only Jamie, Dan, and myself who are at the second one. Yeah. And me at the me four of us. Okay. I'm going to recommend we skip the
committee reports tonight in light of the weather unless anyone has something really special they want to talk about. Can I can I just say I want to congratulate the nature center on a very successful fairies and fireflies event
on Saturday night. It was a soldout crowd. Uh thankfully the weather was a lot different than tonight and uh it was very successful. I just want to congratulate them all. And um I I just
also want to say on a personal note, I'm going up to uh our sister city this weekend, Senica Falls, for all their celebrations, and I will represent the Burough of Tennifl. That's great, Julie. That's wonderful. My only comment I'm going to make
tonight is uh to thank everyone involved in putting up our July 4th um concert and fireworks, which Saturday, July 5th. the DPW, the police, the ambulance corps, the fire department was there, the burough administrator. Thank you very much. The CFO for writing the
checks. So there you go. It was excellent. It was really excellent. All together. I think we had close to Chief and I estimated close to 3,000 people there. So yeah. All right. Uh so can we uh we're going to go into close session. Can you
read the uh authorization there, please? It's resolution R25396 at a meeting of the mayor and council of the burough of Tennifly County of Bergen State of New Jersey held on July 14th, 2025. Be it resolved in compliance with NJSA 104-12.
The mayor and council of the Burough of Tennifly are going into closed executive session to discuss the following matters relating to real property, leasing of burough property, and potential acquisitions. Minutes will be taken of the meeting and released to the public at the time that the matters resolved. Can I get a motion to go into close,
please? All in favor? I. Okay. Can I have a motion to close the public meeting? So move. Have a second. Second. All in favor? I. Any opposed? All right. Good night, everyone. Thank you, everybody.
Yeah, that's funny. You're so funny.