summer anyway. Um, just kind of burns the grass. Tom, you see we got the annexation tomorrow? Pardon? We have the annexation tomorrow for the the property near you. Uh yeah, I read about it. Yes, I read
it. Uhhuh. Um looks fine to me. I hope they do it. I mean, it all comes down to do do we want to get the tax dollars for it or do we want it to stay in the county? Yeah. I wish they had come to us from the start though from the site plan process.
You know, the there's a little twoacre parcel where the the blue fencing is on Riverside. So, it's in Palm Beach County right now, but they're going to annex into the village. How many homes? Eight. Eight houses. Eight homes. It's about I'm estimating like 65k a
year to the village, which could basically pay for remembrance park phase two or phase three over over five or 10 years. Yeah. And I want I want to try and get the rest of the pocket near you. So where that that park is
there's a few random little spots that are unincorporated county. I'd love to just get everything in that little things kind of square it off. Yeah. And actually the housing the houses there are so old they all have the save our homes. So the taxable value is
really low. So the cost for them to annex into the village isn't isn't that bad, right? The higher the higher your home value is, the the the higher the gap is between what you pay to the county and us. What has like a has a um taxable value
of like 188k? 180 188 88 because it's just they've had it forever and it it's capped really low. Have you guys been keeping close to all the stuff going on in the House, Florida
House and Senate about property taxes and some of the stuff the governor wants to do? Yeah, it's it's interesting. I think I don't think the the full I don't think they'll ever fully get rid of it, but they'll they'll find a way to scale
something back. The problem is that the police and fire departments will never let it happen either because that's where they get their money. They get the money. Yep. the the there's kind of a disconnect in between the state government and local governments where they don't they don't
understand anything at the local level. They don't understand that every special place in Florida is a is a municipality, right? Nobody says, "Hey, go go check out that really cool area in unincorporated Palm Beach County." Right. Right. It's all a
dump. And I tell it to people all the time. Like I would never live in an unincorporated area because you don't have a police department. You don't have typically you have a county fire department. You don't have any sheriff doesn't isn't part of that.
Theiction Yeah, the sheriff. But there I mean it's different. I understand. Yeah, it's different because when it's when it's a small town, you can really hone in on every little thing. When it's at the county, there's just 75 different pockets they're worried about and they don't know they don't know it is detailed. And
so yeah. So neighborhoods can decline more quickly. Um with zoning wise, I mean you can have I mean look at the county um that project I said that we're annexing. They're getting an administrative approval from the county. Um so we're not they're not the county
is not even looking at the type of houses that are going in like the architecture of them. We're having to annex it that way because that's how they already got it approved. But if they were into QuUa, we'd be like looking at the architecture and making sure it fits the community. And
um so that's why typically things are just kind of a hodge podge out out in the boonies. Last time I checked, uh this I think is called district one for the sheriff. The average response time was 20 minutes.
Oh jeez. What to police? What? Four and a half, five minutes. Yeah. But one of the things that happened in Lake Park is they went they went to county police and they can't monitor
things nearly as well as they could when it was their own police department. And so that's why like you're seeing a lot of Riviera crime is creeping into Lake Park because it's just the county, right? It's just they don't care. But North Palm who's right next door, I mean so I used to
work there, right? I mean, that police department, if you if you go in that town, they know you're in the town. They they've got the license plate readers. They are on top of you. Um, but because Lake Park did that, it's going to it's going to become Riviera Beach Jr.
basically. It's already It's already kind of happening. Do you have any idea how This is just a curiosity question. It's not relevant to anything, but do you have any idea how many homes in toqua are under an HOA governance body?
Well, that number there's a lot of there are a lot like take the toquesta country club for example. They originally had a fully functional HOA but they let it slip away. They
failed to keep up with the laws and the changes and the filings and all these things you have to do. Uh all the all of the condos have one. Uh
Questa Pines has one. Uh El Country Club Point uh had one. They let it go defunct as well. Um, so Bay, let's see, Bay Harbor,
Shady Lane, and uh what's that place on the just south of Bermuda Terrace? Uh, Bay Bay I can't remember the name of it. Yeah. Um, it's funny. You p passed by there every
single day. Yeah. At least once. Bay View Terrace. Bay View Terrace. Yeah. They all have one. Mhm. Uh so I'd say probably 70% don't have one of the single family
homes don't have one don't have one or had one and let it go and let it go. Is there was there a common theme to letting it go? Is just too unwieldy in many ways? probably and sum it up
with one word, laziness. They just didn't stay on top of it. You know, you have to file your papers with SunBiz, you have to file uh tax returns, and even though you're nonprofit, you still
have to file, right? They just let it fall by the wayside. Yeah. I think when you are in a city like Tquesta that has code enforcement and, you know, public works department that takes care of the rightaways. It's It's probably not as essential as it is.
You're not gonna see big degradation if someone drops out. Is that what you're kind of going? I think they I think an HOA probably could clamp down a little harder in in the country club than than we could just because we have a we have a limited code enforcement staff.
But they seem to be active in the country club though. Yeah. See their trucks all around. Yeah, we've got a new code officer. That's good. We've we've kind of had some weak ones, but he's he's the the best one we've had since
I've been here. He's getting on top of some stuff. I saw him the other day when it was, you know, that rain we had last week. I had to go to Palm Beach and leaving my street. He caught somebody building a sign a fence without a permit.
That's Wayne, right? Because he's the building official manages code enforcement. So, he does not like work without a permit. Yeah. I love that, Brad, that we talked about how we had no worm issues and then Yeah.
And then jinx it. Blame it on summer. Well, good because Wayne Wayne Cameron couldn't be here for this one. So now, hey, make sure he's at the next one. It's 15 minutes enough.
I don't know. I've seen uh Russ walk in maybe 20 after. Let's go 20 after and then I'll call it. Yeah. What do we do when folks like just habitually show up late?
Um well, in Russ's case, he has he's a school teacher and he has to pick up his son at this point in time. I don't know. Yeah, I got you. But uh uh they get what's the rules, Jay? Something. If you miss three or There's no late row, but
it's just missing total. If you miss then you saw that, too. something like two or three in a year, you're you're out. And that's typically if you're like not saying anything about it, you know? I think like if you've got excuses and
you're a contributing member, you know, there's a little bit of leeway. But yeah, if somebody's not showing to meetings, not participating, there's no reason. There's no reason. Yeah. What's the point? Yeah. We kind of had to do that a little bit with Clay because he he'd gone through a
little period where he'd missed missed a few meetings and it's time to renew. Um the clerk's office kind of asked him and he's like, "Oh, I've been been really busy with work. I can't really, you know, I feel bad about it." So, he he
kind of intentionally backed out, but he was almost to the point where we're going to have to ask him. Yeah. Yeah. I think he missed three or four actually. So, it's like I got to a point where I'm like, where did this guy go?
Got another curiosity question while we're waiting. Love it. I noticed there was um can't remember the name of the neighborhood. It's right behind the church over here off of Tquesta Drive on the other side of the bridge. They were repaving a neighborhood.
Shady. Yeah, that's B uh it's either Shady Lane or Bay View Terrace. I think it's maybe Bay View Terrace, I think. Um I walk through there all the time and I I just passed by by the sign. I didn't I didn't collect in my memory, but when I uh seeing them repave that, I
was just curious, do you is there like an average time that roads typically get have to get repaved? Yeah. South Florida. In Florida, um rainy, all that stuff, I'm sure. Yeah. Um
you're lucky if they last 15 years. Oh yeah. U so somewhere between 10 and 15. Yeah. If you know if it's asphalt, there are some concrete uh or yeah concrete roads here
and there. But if it's asphalt, you're you're doing good if you got 15 years. 15. Got it. Our public works department kind of has a plan for for future too, like what areas need to go. So, they kind of sync that up with like funding each year. Yeah.
So, I think they have a they call like a paving and milling plan. So, I know they've got a lot kind of a lot in the queue for for for the future. Yeah. Is that on their their their site? Uh yeah, I think it is. I think it is.
Yeah, you know, I need to put an asterisk adjacent to what I just told you. So, a residential street is 15 years, but if you get a heavily uh driven road like Country Club Drive or Tquesta Drive,
Yeah. 10 to 12. Yeah. It's more use. Yeah. I was telling Jeremy that we need to put put a toll system on the bridge to charge to charge the people that that
use the bridge every day but don't live into or don't pay toquest the taxes. There's a whole big unincorporated area, right? They chose to not be inquest. I'm like, that's right. Let's charge them if they're if they're not going to pay our taxes. They're they're using our bridge. Yeah, that's right. Toll tag little toll tag.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. It's a slippery It's a slippery slope, though. It's got the uh license plate reader right there. Right. Yeah. You know, down in Key Biscane, what is it? Rickenback or Cos,
they know when it's a key, they know when it's a K Biscane resident or put it this, they know who has paid an annual. So, if they don't get the boom boom every time they drive through and have to pay a dollar, you know that they don't get that.
So, I'd love to do that. that would, you know, let's let's just have a fist of cuffs with all these unincorporated people. A dollar each way, people. The problem is we if we could get all the unincorporated areas to annex, we
could really have enough of a budget to do cool stuff. So all these you guys are all paying taxes to Dquesta and all these people are they're eating their cake. Yeah. They're eating your cake that you're paying for. Yeah. So, when it comes like, you know, we're cobbling money together for remembrance
park and for toquest the park improvements, but they'll use them. They'll use them just as much and the county won't throw money in. Would that expand the city what 10% 20%. I don't know the numbers, but yeah, that sounds about right.
Yeah. And the even bigger issue is is Martin County, right? I mean, in in an ideal world, Martin County would would stop at at Jonathan Dickinson and we'd have all that up there and to Questa would have a population of like 35,000 people.
Yeah. And we'd have a ton of money and we could really do a lot of cool stuff. And a lot of those locations are already on our water system, aren't they? Yeah. Yeah. They're on our water. I mean, they they go to Palm Beach County schools. You know, there's all kinds of special
arrangements for it. They pay they pay 25% more for their water though. They do. They have a search charge for non-residents, but it's minimal, right? I mean, the grand scheme of things. And I think the state they either did or they're talking about getting rid of that where you
can't charge a punitive fee, right? Yeah. We could put that bridge toll on we have a contract with Sun uh Sun, what's it called? Sun Pass. Yeah. Sunpass. Just let the let the money roll right
in. No, Jeremy and I were talking about that and we were like, you know what though? Then then if if you do that and you force those people to annex, then they all hate to Questa, then they all have they all they all built in haters. Yeah. They all get the person to run for
council whose job is to fire Jeremy and me. So he and I after we talked about, we were like, well, that's a great idea, but we can't pitch it because our heads are going to get cut off. So Tom, if you want to be the the man, go for it. Sure. I'd love to. They, you know, they they've talked about You scared.
They they've talked about in Palm Beach for years and they've gone, you know, deep dive with FDOT. But the bottom line is FDOT owns all of those bridges to Palm Beach. So they can't get it. Trust me, if they could put a toll, they
would put a toll. Interesting. Well, I guess it's uh it's no show for Jill and Russ. And we knew Michelle wasn't coming. She had a last minute thing, right?
Sorry about that, guys. All dressed up. Never happened before, but now I let the cat out of the bag. Chalk it up this summer. Yeah. Well, at least doing the agenda for next
month will be easy. There we go. Copy paste. Wayne's going to be pissed cuz he's going to have to give this presentation. Been avoiding it. Well, then Brad, do you want to shoot
for September to talk to council? use this excuse for that and then we can put that on the agenda like things that things to talk about and present in September talk about it next month. Yeah.
You know what day in September? It is the unfortunate date of September 11th. Which is also my start date with the question. Oh jeez. Anniversary. Thanks for entering all
I learned something new. Hey, you're welcome. But I learned something new. Let's see. All right, guys. Remember Remembrance Park grand openings at five? Yeah. Yeah.
Ice and hot dogs. Oh, really? Really? All right. That'll heat. I had worried I was worried about melting out there, but now I'm not. See you guys. All righty. See you. Take care. Thanks for coming.
I always see Jill walking around the neighborhood in the morning. I see her again. I'm Where were you? How dare you? I think that is the first one we've ever had. We didn't have quum. That's the first one that I've ever been
a part of that we've had at the Actually, we we we've been lucky. Really? We'll just have to make note to, you know, people if you're not going to show just just let let us know. Let us know. Yeah. I wonder what that pile of dirt thing on
the screen is. Looks like a nice place. Is that a X volcano or something? I don't know what that looks like. Interesting. Or something like that. All right, folks.
Good to see you. Have a good one. You too. It's kind of mountainous in the background. Water.