We don't. We're missing one of them. Yeah, we sure are. Okay. We will We'll do another one. Oh, okay. Yeah, because Jared's not here. Jared's not here yet. Picture. Okay. It's 5 It's Oh, go time.
It's 5:30 July 17th, 2025. And we welcome you to the meeting of the planning and zoning board for Tquest, the village of Tquesta, Florida. Uh Meg, can I have a roll call, please? Leslie Dasher here. here. The shower
here Okay. And um has everybody had a chance to look over the agenda? Okay. I do have one change. We are going to have the reorganization of the board tonight choosing a a new chair and vice chair. So, we do have to
add that to the agenda tonight. And any other changes? Nope. Okay. Okay. Uh have a motion to approve the I'll make a motion to approve the agenda including the reorganization of the
board. Second. Okay. All in favor? I. All opposed? Motion passes. Okay. and the approval of the meeting minutes for April 17, 2025. Were there any changes?
No. Um, no. I did have one for the as far as the roll call. It wasn't uh I didn't see Marie's name on the She was here. Yeah. I mean, she wasn't listed as absent or here, but Oh. Oh.
And I'm sure she was here. So, yeah, she was. So, that's the only change I have. Always. She's always here. Yes. Yes. Okay. That's the only change I have on the previous meeting minutes. I'll make a motion to approve the
minutes with the correction that Marie was here for as an alternate at the April 17th meeting. I'll second it. Okay. All in favor? I. All opposed. Okay.
Motion passes. Okay. And the first agenda item, y go to our reorganization. Okay. Who does that? I can take it over if you'd like. Okay. Good evening board members. Nice to see you all of you. It's been a It's been a little while.
So, section 22-52 of the village of Tquesta code of ordinances says that the board shall select its own chair and vice chair annually at the first meeting of the board held after the May meeting of the village council at which time members are appointed.
Uh, it also says the director of the department of community development shall serve as clerk to the board. Thank you. Who knew? I didn't. So, we've done this previously. There are two ways to go about nominate or electing a chair and a vice chair. You
can do so by motion or you can do so by uh the nomination process. I if I recall correctly, you had done so via emotions in the past. Mhm. Um the rules say you get to select yours. So it's sort of up to you guys on
how you want to handle it. Okay. If there's a scent that you want to handle it just via a simple motion, then we can do it that way. Or if you wanted to, you know, utilize the nomination method, we could explore that as well. Okay.
I would like to make a motion to have Sher Ambrose as the chair for planning and zoning. Okay. So, a motion has been made. Is there a second? There does not appear to be a second. So, the motion would fail for lack of a
second. Okay. I was going to make a mo I was going to ask if we could make a motion leaving everything as is um with the chair and the vice chair. Can you do that? Well, I would ask that renomination.
Yeah, I would ask that you I would say renominate each. Okay. Um so I can make a motion. Yeah. Just be clear in your motion that you are nominating this person as chair and this person as vice chair. Yes. So currently vice chair is
Teresa. Teresa Leslie. So I would make a motion that Leslie remain chair. Theresa is vice chair. Do we have another person that is I'll second the motion.
Okay. So there's been a motion and a second. I'll do a roll. Clerk, would you please call for a roll call? Vote. Oh, clerk. We'll let Jay work. that fancy clerk. That's right. That's right.
Yes. The agenda out to read names. Okay. So, roll call. Let's go. Uh Sher Ambrose. Yeah. I Jean Miy I. Elizabeth Shower. I Teresa Mio I. Leslie Dasher.
I. Okay. Motion passes. Congratulations. Okay. And one other small item, if we can have uh Fred come forward, give us his name and to the podium name and address for the record and tell us about yourself.
He's our new al third alternate. Awesome. And who left? Marco. Marco. Welcome, Fred. Well, thank you. Um I'll tell you a little bit about myself. We uh my wife and I moved here not quite 13 years ago
from Baltimore, Maryland. Um, my background is international business, uh, working for a spice company. Um, since we've been here, we've tried to be very active. Um, I've recently, uh, retired from being the, um,
president of the Jupiter Medical Auxiliary with 400 volunteers. Um, my wife is active there as well as I in a different position. And, uh, we just try to give back to the community. We love it here. Um, I to be honest with you, we
told our realtor what we were looking for. We looked at uh four houses. The second house we saw in the matter of an hour and a half, we bought. We're in the country club. Absolutely love it and very proud of uh the village of Tquesta.
All our cards have stickers on them and uh it's de I'm delighted to see how the village works. I did attend the um what is the uh program for the the residents academy and I found that extremely
helpful and um it's quite an organization we have here in the village that we live in. Thank you. Thank you. Welcome. And if we are ready, we will move on to
item number two, which is well, I guess technically three. Um, SPM 03-25 application from Jebcore to Questa LLC for a site plan modification for new exterior or existing 6,000
on ex on existing 6,99 square foot building in the mixeduse zoning district. Meg chair. Uh this item SPM03-25 is a quasa judicial application. That being said, if there's anyone present here this evening who plans to give
testimony regarding SPM 03-25, I need to swear you in at this time. So if you could please stand, raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm under penalty of perjury and laws of the state of Florida, tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Very good. You may be seated. I'll ask also ask the board members at this time
to disclose any exparte communications they may have had with the applicant or disclose any site visits they've made. No sir. None. All right. And can I ask one question? Um now as far as this goes we are only here to review and make recommendations on the
more or less the exterior and the grounds not the businesses going into because they the one requires a special exception which they have not received yet. Correct. Yes. So the special exception uses only go to council right now. Um I think this came up with the Cyprus
project that came up. We are working on putting that into the code that the that the um PZB would also review and make recommendations on special exceptions. Most cities do it that way. So we're going to be bringing a some code updates in the probably in the fall. So that will be in there.
Okay. Um but yeah, right now you're not formally reviewing that. Okay, great. Just a site plan. Yeah. Okay. Are Meg, are you presenting or is Mr. Holloway? I'm actually gonna do presentation. Uh Meg is a little bit under the weather. She's
battling to even be here right now. So, um All right. So, uh this uh petition is from uh Jebcort to Questa. It's a site plan modification for uh an existing 699 foot building in the MU zoning district. Um here's the property. It used to be a
Bank of America. It's located on the southwest corner of Tquesta Drive in US1. It's in the MU mixu zoning district. It's also in the US1, the new US1 zoning overlay. Um the facility was constructed in 2004. It has a three-lane
drive-thru on the south side of the building, which was used for the the bank. Um the bank did cease operations at this location in 2022, and the building has remained vacant since then. Um, as you may or may not be aware, we've had a few different conceptual presentations come to our village
council um, proposing various things for this property. One of them was a Waw Wa. Um, that did not go well. Um, Troy was there. He could he could remind you. Um, I'm sure it didn't. There was a uh there was, I think, a proposal for a smoke shop, like a cigar
a cigar bar. Sorry. Um, yeah, cigar bar of some sort. Um, and I'm not sure if there were any others, but but a few different ones came up. Um, and these and Troy's team came forward in um June of last year, June or July of last year for a
conceptual presentation or a council for this this project. June of last year. Of last year. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. There's a little bit of a lag time with some of the submitts and resubmitts and we'll talk about that in a minute.
They they are going to need a special exception. U Can you take the clock down? Um I'm sorry I could have done that for you. Okay. So So um restaurants fast food restaurants are required to obtain a special exception. Um they are
considered a fast food restaurant. Really the way our code is written even even kind of fast casual restaurants are kind of could be considered a a fast food restaurant. So um they do have a drive-thru so they're definitely considered a fast food restaurant. Um, but even if they were kind of like a
like a three natives would possibly even be considered fast food the way our code is written. Um, the drive-thru is it's called a Chipotle lane. I think you may have seen something about that in the agenda package. Um, I think Troy can probably share a little bit more about it, but
it's supposed to be more of a like a pickup. You order, you pre-order, you pick it up. It's not your typical drive-thru order. Um, modern technology. Modern technology. Yes. And Chipotle also I mean when I go there there's a they also do you can do a
pickup from inside too. So you don't have to go you don't have to go to the Chipotle lane. A lot of people still just go inside. I got um which is pretty common at you know Jersey Mike and you know restaurants like that. Yeah. I love it. Yeah. Um as I said earlier so the the
PCB does not review special exceptions only reviewed by by village council. As I said we're working on changing that. Um, the zoning overlay actually does not apply to this project. So, the application was submitted during the business hours of October 16th, 2024.
Uh, the code was later adopted that night. Well done, Troy. Um, the zoning overlay uh therefore does not apply to it. Um, since uh so we we were supposed to apply kind of the code that was in place at the time of that. Um, there really aren't too many major
implications for that. The the biggest one would probably be that Chipotle would be considered a formula restaurant and we do have special formula restaurant criteria where um we want to make sure that that restaurants coming here kind of fit the character of the
community and that we don't get kind of overrun with chains or or maybe chains that don't fit in with the community. So, um that this one does not not apply because of that that submitt. Um, but as I said, they still will need a special exception for the fast food portion of
it. Um, I did want to bring this up because Jeie called me and had some questions about the formula businesses and I realized that you guys, the code that you saw at um, in front of you ended up being slightly changed by council when it got to them.
They they made some tweaks on the formula business concept and I think they really came up with some pretty good suggestions and and concepts. So, we had it was really originally just considered a formula business and formula restaurant when it came to you. And formula business was a catch-all. It
included retail, but it would have also included things like like a real estate office or a massage therapy, like a massage envy. Um, they wanted to separate it out to have formula retail separated and then formula business separated and then formula restaurant
stayed the same. So they and the Toquesta Drive overlay, which is the kind of the overlay along Toquesta Drive, you know, Gallery Square, uh, Formula Retail and Formula Restaurants are completely prohibited there, but a Formula business could come in through a special exception. So again, a massage
envy, a hair salon, something of that nature. um US1 where this property is there's no restriction on formula retail, there's no restriction on formula business, there's only a special exception requirement for formula restaurants. So the the big thing there
is is keeping an eye on chain restaurants, drive-throughs, fast food, things of that nature. U and then the village center overlay, which is kind of more in the middle of the village. Um Formula Retail and Formula Restaurant are special exception and Formula Business really has no restriction at
all. Okay. So, just wanted to give you a heads up on that because that's something that we you guys probably didn't see because it came it got changed by council. Okay. Yeah. But this does not but this but it doesn't apply either way because they submitted before we
officially adopted the code. Okay. So, here's a current site. I'm sure you're all familiar with it. Probably drive by it all the time. Um has the Mediterranean style which was a little more common, you know, in the early 2000s and the 90s.
Uh here's a proposed elevation. Um we think that it's it's you know pretty pretty nice architecture kind of in the the direction that that um I think a lot of people in the village want to see more coastal colors. Um and so I think I
think they've really done a lot. Um when they originally submitted um it didn't have that you can't see it as well here, but there's kind of that pop of like a blue or green Yeah. in the middle there. It didn't have that. And so we we kind of suggested that and I think it made it really pop a little bit more.
Is that tile? It says metal. It's a special I'll let Troy talk about that. It's some kind of special patterned. Yeah, it's in here. Metal cutouts. It's written in here. Pretty.
So I do want to show too just how far the architectures come from their original conceptual. So this is what they proposed at their conceptual presentation. Um, I think the council did not really love it. No. Um, and Troy and his team have really
done a great job. They even had to work with Chipotle's um, kind of in-house architect who was from was it Massachusetts. And so the architect could not fit the he could not fit kind of the Florida vernacular,
Florida coastal style that we wanted. And so Troy's team and myself had to give a lot of feedback to their client that we really wanted to get something a little more coastal. So they end up getting uh Steven Boroff who's a really really wellrespected local architect. So
I think he really um did a great job of of kind of you know it's it's very hard for people that have chains up in the northeast and then they come down here. The architecture the it's
They don't have that insight. I'm sorry. I've been here too long. Absolutely. Yeah. It looked it looked like, you know, it was nice, but it looked like it was, you know, Cape Cod type style. So, didn't didn't really fit. No. So, here's the proposed colors. Um, Benjamin Moore White Dove, the Benjamin
Moore Aberdeen Green, and the Chantelli lace. So, here's some elements. It shows that that kind of feature there. There's really beautiful. It's nice. And then um we've worked with them too to make sure that the the
exterior um furniture um kind of also fits the style. Um Chipotle has some of their own standard styles, but we wanted to make sure that the umbrella that they use and some of the furniture kind of fit that same that same coastal aesthetic we're going for.
Um here's the proposed signage. Uh so the code allows one freestanding sign not to exceed 60 square feet and 16 feet in height. Um the sign of sight plan package does not have the exact dimensions of the sign face area. As I was prepping for the meeting today, I
realized that the sign face area might be slightly larger than than what we require by code. Um it looks like it's possibly a little larger than 60 square feet. Oh, it could. So that would be just the area where the sign copy is, not the entire sign itself.
Okay. So, I do have a proposed condition at the end of the presentation um ensuring that when they submit that they meet that requirement. That's that condition is not in the staff report, but but um I'm recommending you make that as part of any motion you make tonight. All right. Because you also have another
there is another condition which I'll I will I'll get to on my last slide. Have that. But now you what did you want us to do with the signage? I got you on the last slide. Okay. I've got I've got Okay. So, um, the standards of, uh, review for
site plans, um, in the code, you know, there's several of these. I think you're used to reviewing these when we have site plans. So, harmony with other buildings, harmony with the surroundings, facades that are harmonious. Um, again, methods of harmonious design,
advertisements on buildings. So, you want the advertisements and signage to be kind of compatible with the the style of village. Um, inappropriate building styles, garish design, takeout and pickup windows. So, this this says that takeout and pickup
windows shall not be located on a building facade that faces a public rightway. So, this does not face the public rightway. The overlay also has some language about that. Again, doesn't apply. Um, but but that's further in the overlay. um exterior forms and use of
symbolic colors, exterior storage and display of merchandise. So here the proposed conditions of approval. So the um the sign there's a I mean there's a wall out on Questa Drive adjacent to the welcome to Questa sign. It's a little
bit dated. It's a little bit in need of some some um cleaning up. So, we have recommended a condition of approval that they pressure wash the sign, repair any spalling, and paint it to match the um color that's on the village of Tquest, the sign so that
it'll be a little bit more cohesive and a little bit nicer gateway into the village. It says prior to the issuance of the certificate of occupancy the applicant shall pressure wash the wall along to quest drive repair spalling and
paint and match the addition bill. Yep. Right there. Exactly. I saw that one highlighted it. And then the second condition, which is the one that I we added, is um and this is something we could have done at permitting anyways, but just to to be
safe, um to ensure that the sign face area of the freestanding sign shall not exceed 60 square feet per section 78741. Okay, that's my presentation. Exceed I'm sorry. U shall not exceed 60 square feet. Okay.
Per section 78741. Okay. That is my presentation. Uh Troy Holloway from 2JHO is going to give a a presentation and and I'm happy to answer any questions when he's done. And Mr. Holloway, if you can give us your name and address for the record, please.
Uh good evening everyone. Uh Troy Holloway. I'm with 2Go. We're the landscape architects and land planners on this project. We are also the uh the agent or applicant for the owner as well. We have come a long way with this project. I think we've been working on
this almost two years. When we we first came, we came through with a Waw Wa uh convenience store, gas station. Uh that didn't wasn't well recepted. We did not do any kind of a cigar smokes job. That wasn't us. So, and we've been working with staff for
about a year on this particular on this particular site plan. Um trying to get the architecture pretty much the architecture getting it right to where it needs to be. Um, as you know, a lot of these national tenants have their specific architectural patterns and that's what they start with and you got
to really push hard to get something different and you really got to push hard and and we need your staff to do that and they did and got something I think really nice. Uh, we're here tonight requesting a lot of this uh Jay has covered, but I'll try to go over it quickly. Um, a
redevelopment of an existing vacant uh building 6,99 square feet in size. is it does have three existing drive-through lanes or drive-through tunnels on the building. Um it's 1.4 uh a 1.4 acre property and is located at 150 to Questa
Drive uh which was the old Bank of America site. The property is currently zoned MU. It's a mixeduse district. This is within your recently adopted US Highway 1 overlay. Um, our redevelopment proposal consists of 3,499 square feet
of medical office use and 2600 square feet of fast food restaurant with outdoor seating. And of course, the proposed tenants are the Chipotle um and a H Heartland Dental or some sort of dental. I don't know what he'll end up with, but the dental office there.
This is the project location, the southwest corner of Toquesta Drive and US Highway One. again the existing structure there um shown um these are the existing commercial properties all surrounded by commercial properties across the street to the east
we've got that commercial plaza kind of strip center just to the south they've got the existing CVS immediately to the west we have the two threetory office building and of course we have Paradise Park there kind of to the southwest of this site and on the north side we've got a one and threetory office building
and then the uh Shell gas station on the corner This is our proposed site plan. Uh the area there in yellow is the existing drive-thru canopy uh which we will be removing from the building itself. Uh the property does have four or five
uh access vehicular accesses on this property. There's a lot of these. Uh our intentions are to keep all of those. They're not going to be modified or widened at all. They'll just remain as they are. uh with the removal of the of the drive-thru that enabled us to add some
uh angled parking along the south property line as shown here. Um and again the north half of the building would be the dental uh medical office and the south portion of the building would be a Chipotle. Um this would be their drivethru or the it's a pickup
lane only on the south side of the building and that would be their pickup window for the Chipotle lane itself. Um out front we'll have uh some I think four tables um and chairs about 24 seats, some umbrellas, some trash receptacles and so on. Um the front of
the building will maintain it does currently have a covered arcade. We'll maintain that arcade. Actually they've made it a much much larger. I think it's much improved to what exists on the building today. Wow. Uh this is your existing uh Toquesta monument sign. Um, it was pretty much
told to us to not touch the sign. They like it just the way it is. So, we will not be messing with your monument sign on that corner. Um, on the west side of the property, there's a reciprocal parking easement. Uh, consists of 12 parking spaces that's
been in place for about 25 years. Um, and that is basically reciprocal parking to be used. It's for for either properties to the for the commercial building there to the west and for this parcel as well. Um, as far as landscaping goes, uh, we
did submit full landscape plans. Um, and that landscape uh, plan essentially removes all of the shrubs, all the ground covers on the site because they are about 20 20 years old, 21 years old. So, their lifespan is gone. Um, those
will all be replaced. For the most part, most of the trees and palms will all be replaced and removed, but we will be relocating some trees and palms, and some of those will be remain in place as well. Most of a lot of the gumbo limos have done well, but some of the oaks just aren't doing well. And all the royals out front will be replaced along
US1. Uh some of the site data, again, it's 1.4 acres in size. Uh the building area is 6,99 square feet. That's the existing building area. We're not touching the walls at all. They're not expanding. They're not reducing. They'll stay exactly the same other than removal of
the drive-thru. Um, as far as open space, the existing open space currently today is 26.5%. We're slightly increasing that with this plan modification to 28.7%. 25% is the minimum required by your
code. Uh, the code parking is 77 spaces uh per your code. We're uh requesting shared parking, which would be a 62 parking space requirement. Uh, we're providing 79 spaces. So, we exceed all of those. Again, that 79 does
include the 12 shared the reciprocal parking that that easement in the back. Um, we are reducing also the building lot coverage. Um, it's currently at 23 I'm sorry, it's currently 80 8531 square feet. Uh, we're taking it down to 6549
square feet. So, we're reducing it by 23.2%. So, uh, it's a very large drive-thru on the building. Uh just some Chipotle lane facts. As Jay had mentioned, um this this allows customers to pick up an order without
having to park their vehicle and or walking into the restaurant. As Jay said, you can walk in. Most restaurants now you can order online and they've got little racks so you walk in and grab your food and you run out. Um so this one will just have a pickup lane for that as well. Um you cannot place your
order um at the menu board or or pickup window. There is no menu board. Um, it's got to be done uh through their through the app. It's only available to those customers who've placed the app or placed their order via the Chipotle app or through their website. Um, the payment of the order is also done
through the app or the website. You can't pay at the window uh either. Um, if the order isn't ready when they arrive, if they arrive early, uh, they're just asked to park and then they'll bring the order out to them or they can wait inside and pick up the order. Um in the last two these these
kind of the facts here at the bottom they've done a lot of Chipotle lane operational studies um and they say that an average of only two customers uh in a lane in the Chipotle Chipotle lane at a time with an average weight of 1 minute 13 seconds although these these figures
were based on they did studies of six Chipotles in larger metropolitan areas so I doubt these figures I think Questa's numbers will probably be a lot less than that. Yeah. um existing versus the proposed architecture. Uh that's the existing
building there on the top left and the bottom there is our proposed front elevation facing US1. Uh with these changes again, we'll be maintaining the covered arcade. We'll actually be increasing it. You can see the there is a small arcade on the existing building. Uh it's going to go almost the full
length of the of the front. Now, um it does remove the large bulky drive-through structure tunnels. Um it removes the dated very dated Spanish Mediterranean styles and finishes on the building. Um it does propose for a light and airy coastal architectural style. Um
reduces the blank walls and increases the window openings and also utilizes light soft earth tone colors of silver aberdine green and some muted whites. Um these are the the two these are two
the front one is the east elevation facing US1 which is the front and then we got the rear elevation there on the on the bottom. Some of the architectural features it'll be providing for some silver standing seam metal roof uh throughout the project. Uh some aluminum decorative
screening. That's what you're looking at. Some of that it would be basically it's laser cut aluminum panels that will be powder coated. uh some brackets and exposed rafter tails. Um we'll have decorative uh louvered shutters on all sides of the
building, front, sides, and rear. Uh some decorative lighting all around the building. U and also smooth stucco finish. It'll it'll be they put lines in that stucco which will give it that horizontal wood sighting look.
Um I noticed these elevations are labeled incorrectly. The top one is a south elevation, not north. That's the south elevation with the drive-thru window. The bottom one is the north elevation facing to Questa Drive. And as you can see, we've got the metal roof
all the way around, the louvered shutters. They did a the architects did a really nice job. And this is that that same 3D rendering of that building. um east elevation facing US one there on the lefth hand side in the north facing um to Questa
Drive. You can see how nice the the covered arcade is. They did a it looks really good. Sorry. And in conclusion, um we do adhere to all development regulations of the mixeduse uh zoning district. Uh this redevelopment uh the redevelopment of this existing site does strive to meet
as many of the proposed US Highway One overlay requirements as possible. Um it is existing site so we didn't meet all of them such as I think some of the civic open space we weren't required to meet but we we really strived to to meet as much as we could. Uh the redeveloped
architectural styles is it is in in conformance with the architectural design guidelines of the commercial corridor master plan. Um all of the old uh existing landscaping or be removed and completely refurbished and it will exceed uh the village's code. And this
redevelopment will place active vibrant uses in a vacant structure on a main commercial corridor once again revitalizing this prominent gateway parcel within your village. With that, I'm happy to answer any questions. Okay. Board. Any questions? Mr. Holloway?
I have a couple. So, your elevations, I don't see any that show the outside seating or that show the actual signage. Is that um only the the site plan will show the sign?
You talking about the freestanding sign? No, the building signage. It says signage. I just We're looking for the dental practice, for example. That wasn't a very cute sign. It also wasn't at all uh oriented the way your signage is. So, I'm just curious how you fit the signage for that on what you've
indicated is the area for signage. Um, and I you see the seating a little bit in one of them, but I just I'm curious how that looks with the drive-through area. Well, the Yeah, as far as the front sign, yeah, basically the signage on the left that would be Chipotle, and I'm I
I'm assuming they'll I mean, that has to come in for separate building permit, but I'm assuming they'll do the round Chipotle sign on that tower, the red and orange and brown. Yeah, they'll have their their typical, which I think is on that one slide. Yeah, I mean, I can see the logo. I just
it would have been helpful to see the colors together because there I've never seen a Chipotle with their given color palette using this kind of green blue as the as the alternative color. I don't think they have. Okay. But no, they'll be they'll have their standard national signage on the
building. Okay. And there's not an elevation that shows the outside seating and the and the drive-thru. Yeah. Okay. Uh I mean it's one of the No, the the 3D the 3D does not. Just the uh the doesn't you can't see the regular. I mean, you can see like you
can't see it anywhere in here. Uh, no, it shows you see a little bit, but not there's no umbrella. Yeah, it shows Yeah, the drivethru is 42 42. It shows which has it has the flat roof over it and that is
the drive-through window there on. It doesn't show that like I guess I was curious how far the drive-thru window is from where people will be sitting. Uh that will they'll sit in the front should Yeah. the front of the building. They'll sit in the front. No, I understand that. I just it'd be
helpful to see it in perspective since you're going to have people in cars near where people are eating. Yeah. You can see I mean on the site plan you can see where that arrow Chipotle lane pickup window that that's the actual window location. And then we have I think two tables outside and then there's two tables
that'll be undercover up near the front of the building. Okay. Right. An elevation would have been helpful but I understand. Yeah. The site plan shows too there's there's a fence. They have a fence railing there. So, you can't just walk across. They have to walk actually to to the crosswalk to get across there. Okay. Thank you. That's helpful.
And one thing we did is is ensure that there's ballards and some sort of protective things there. Yeah, I assume. Yeah. Yeah. That So, so we we did ensure that there are some stuff around it. Okay. Okay. Um I have outdoor seating.
Jay, I have one question to ask you. Now I've got all my papers mixed up. The the um the gentleman, here we go. For the town of Jupiter, he gave us
their ordinance for the parking for shared parking for Yeah. And I I read Here it is. I I read that. I mean, are you thinking I mean, I think it's a good idea.
Yeah. So, shared parking makes a lot of sense and our code does allow it. We just don't actually have our code doesn't have the actual um times like maximum demand times, but Jupiter's does. Yes.
So, I'm used to to that code. I know the two GH 2 GH team is and it's based on actual engineering standards. So because ours doesn't have the actual standards, we let them apply those. But it makes a lot of sense because office uses have
peak demand from 8 to 5 and restaurants are going to have sometimes peak demand in the evening. So what what you do is there there's some synergy there, right? So um they were able to to use those numbers and it worked out. Yeah. I I I mean he he gave us the code,
but well, my papers are all messed up right now, but he he gave us the the code to read and it was quite, you know, detailed. So, yeah, I have it I have it on a hidden slide if you guys want to look at it. I think it was in here. It's in the packet.
Yeah, it's in here. 11 10:45 to 10. 10. Okay. Yes. Peak hours or 12 to 1? I think evening had some peak hours. I've never been to a Chipotle. Don't be
offended. I don't do fast food, but I went to one to see how it works. Town, it's on page 57. Town of Jupiter. They're um I knew I read it. Yeah. So, well, I I have it right here. So, the maximum demand that they're
using is from 6:00 p.m. to midnight on weekdays. And it's 100% utilization for fast food and only 10% for the office, right? Because no one's going to be at the office after 6 p.m. And that requires them to have 62 parking spaces. But in the daytime, they're 100% for the
medical use, but only around 50% for the for the restaurant. So, it lets it lets them reduce their max parking. Yeah. A lot of use that chart. I mean, I I can't remember who that's that's from National Traffic Division who's done that. I mean, know West Palm Beach uses the exact same table. A lot of
municipalities have that exact table with in their code. Yeah. I think it's from the International Transportation Engineers Standards, something like that. Well, I just think, you know, because it was it was quite detailed. Yeah. So, I and I figured it wouldn't be in
here unless they wanted us to really look at it. And I'm like, okay, I think that's something because even with the chart, you know, that he did, I may not be this good. So, yeah, we encourage people to do it. Like Gallery Square is looking to add to enclose that that open bay there. And
I've told them you you probably have a lot of parking synergies if you look at your daytime office type uses or your art galleries versus your nighttime restaurants. So, they can they can likely do that as well and get a lot of get a reduction.
Yeah. Is there any more questions for Mr. It's like I do have a question. I'm sorry. In your um your restaurant um document with all the different times and the number of cars. It it did say
that sometimes you would have cars that would drive up and then drive away because they thought they could order there. So is your sign does your signage say drive-thru or does it say pickup? so that you avoid that unnecessary traffic. It just it wasn't a lot, but it seemed
like certain times of the day. I don't know. It's called educating the public, the old people. Exactly. You know what I'm going to say? They probably have a sign that says pickup only and people just ignore it, which could be true. Yeah. Honestly, I'm not sure what kind of signage they'll have. I imagine
they'll have something on the back corner when people pull in. Um but that might be something to really think about. That's a good idea. Yeah, because you're just wasting everybody's time that's trying to drive in. Yeah, I'll I'll ask them about that to see what what kind of signage they do have. But you're right, the old people
like myself as well, I I would just rather walk in and order. You would rather do what? Just walk in and order myself. Yeah. Well, it's a lot a lot of times it's it's it's a lot easier to do. Yeah. When I was in the Chipotle on Indian Town Road, I was there from 1:30
to 2. It's 20 to 30 year olds running in, doing it, and running out with the bag. That's exactly what that business younger generation. So, this makes sense to do it that way. It does. And I I'm for one, I'm glad that it um the building will not look anything like
the neighbors because it's uh such a you know, the one that's there now is it's a big box with tile on the roof. It's not very And you know, CVS is not much better looking. So, it's very very dated. It'll be nice to have a It's a nice statement for that corner. Yeah, it is. It'll be a nice It
really is. It'll be a nice addition. Your staff pushed us hard for that. Okay. If there's no more questions for Mr. Holloway. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. We will open the floor to public
comment. Uh Fred, if you'll come to the podium, state your name and address for the record. And could we get the three minutes? Fred Lissauer, 46 GW Drive. Um, just have a question regarding maybe for
the council or committee. Um, what happens if Hartland Dental doesn't come in or hasn't signed a contract and it it's vacant? Who is there do they have to apply again with another permit or or
what happens? So, so they'll they'll just come in for a business tax receipt for whatever use goes in that that bay. And if it's a permitted use, nothing will happen. If there's a a use that requires what we
call a special exception, it'll have to go to the village council for approval for the special exception. But you're really you're really just looking at the site, not the not the uses themselves. Okay. So, in other words, a smoke in could go there theoretically, but they have to apply. Well, they'd have to apply.
The smoke in would have to be a permitted use. Okay. All right. Thank you. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Uh, Mr. Bradford, if you'll state your name and address for the record, please. Do I need to be sworn in? No.
Okay. Uh, Thomas Bradford, 44 Chestnut Trail. Um, I've been looking at the the things that have been posted online and I think overall Troy and his team as well as our staff have done an outstanding job to make it be a uh a
better product at that location. But I have a number of concerns that I want to bring to your attention. Uh, first of all, I believe the signage, the freestanding signage is too big. I mean, you've got two tenants and why does that
sign need to be 16 feet in height? If if Troy is 6 feet tall approximately, it's more than twice as tall as Troy is. And that just seems odd when we're very uh cognizant of keeping some controls
relative to signage along these overlay districts that are now in effect, although it doesn't apply to their project. the uh one of the drawings I saw, but not here tonight, is the um there was what appeared to be a driveway
access point on approximately the northwest corner of the property. it was labeled something like D A or DT. I don't remember. But I don't see that now, which I'm glad it's not there because that leads to my uh second point
is what is the status of what may be called an alley, a road, an easement that runs uh along the western property line of the property between that uh gym
facility and their property. Is it an easement? Is it a road? Is it an alley? Is it open to the public? What is it? That's the question. And then thirdly, I it may have been the northern facade or the western facade. I can't remember
which one it was, but it was pretty stark. It had a lot of space that was just plain and you know either there should be some sort of articulation on that wall or maybe Troy and company have added trees
that will be along that facade to soften it. And my last uh point is this. If you're driving eastbound on Tquesta Drive coming to the intersection, your first image of this property is from its
northwest corner. And today the uh dumpster location is also in that line of sight and it is today it's a wreck but it uh needs to be nicely done so
that you're not you know as you probably know dumpsters locations typically they fail to close the the doors that hide the dumpsters and that could be your first thing that you see when you're driving eastbound at that
side. So, that's all I had and you can address it after I sit down or or ignore it, but those were my concerns. Thank you. I know the backside that we look at here, there's a lot of plants I'm not sure if it's going to be at that
start. We we do it's uh page 44. It's right here. It doesn't show it on the picture. It's not. You go on to this. It's not. That's why I'm saying you go to here. Yeah. But
anyway, it's not showing the site plan. Well, the one with the plants shows plants along the back side. Yeah. Yeah. But it's not that. These aren't building plans. These are just That's a landscape plan
concept concept so far. Okay. What is that alleyway back there? What do we call that? It's actually on the survey it shows up. It's a What do they say? It's a 24 foot driveway easement. It's shared between the two properties.
Okay. Thank you, Marie. It's okay. I do have comments, but could you answer Tom's questions? You need to come to the podium, but I don't know that we can answer what he asked about. Is it okay? I'm happy to go after asked
about the the alleyway and Troy did answer that and uh but he had questions for staff too. Yeah, I mean the the sign question so 16 ft is what is permitted by code. Um I I do think that's a um generous
code requirement. Um, but that is what's required by code and when the V and when we adopted the zoning overlays, we did not touch signage, but I do think the village is going to have to relook at our signage code
because the village center signage allowances all you can also do some very large signs kind of in some of our more quaint parts of the village as well. So, and this area at least has like the rise like the raised dirt and then like the
large trees. So, I kind of understand why you'd still want a reasonable size sign, but I hear you that 16 feet is a generous sign height. Yeah, it is. That is great. Okay, Marie, if you give your name and address for the record, please. Marie Superior. I live in the country
club. Um, I appreciate that that the design mostly reflects the desire of Tquest residents for this to be a small coastal village. However, if you think about the aspiration of a small Florida coastal village in this location, which is central to the village, we would ideally have a building occupied by
unique authentically local businesses. That's how you add value to the properties in this area by creating a unique sense of character. And this is a very important prop priority for the village. Um, but developers have told me that there is a financial advantage to having an established big business as a
tenant. So, with that in mind, um, to the property owners on Route 1 and all of their adviserss, especially those who come before us frequently, I'd like to make this suggestion. Try to find a way to have smaller businesses that are unique and authentically local because that adds enormous value to the village
and your efforts will be rewarded because Toquesta residents shop at local stores. So doing this will add enormous value to all the properties in the area, especially yours. I note that the same firm last brought us not only the Waw Wa concept, but also the Starbucks that does exist currently. So I I'd
especially appreciate if they would counsel their clients differently in the future because it would really create long-term value for the property owners. Um I realize on the use I realize the board is not currently discussing the special exception use, although that should be promptly changed. Um, and I
support the the that going forward. Um, the problem, but I would like to put on the record that the problem with this special exception used is that the fast food drive-thru seems likely, even by the applicant's own admission, to create traffic problems. From the drawings, it looks like you can maybe fit four cars
very tightly into the drive-thru, but the data shows that during peak times, there are at least four cars doing pickups. Um, what is the plan? My question would be what is the plan for managing that given how busy this particular intersection is? Also, we're since we are in a more suburban location, I think we'll actually have
more cars in than than urban locations would. The other question I have is for staff. The code, as I understand it, requires a 15oot landscape buffer for fast food. Um, I think that may be correct across AC along Route One, but on the Tequesta Drive side of this
property, I'm not sure that it's that that size. I couldn't tell from the the plans. Um, if not, I think that should be fixed and we shouldn't have a change. We shouldn't deviate from the code requirements for fast food and mixed use. The street sign also concerns me. I
appreciate that the lettering is raised solid and not plastic that is backlit. Um, I do not appreciate that this design maxes out the size dimensions in possible in the code. Thinking about the other signs along Route One, the only ones that appear to be this massive are
the ones for huge plazas and like Publix, right, with many stores in them. And even those generally have a cutout to make them look less like a wall. Furthermore, attempting to squeeze in a sign that may be appropriate for a plaza the size of County Line onto a parcel that is a tiny fraction of that size
seems like a reading of the code that is far outside its spirit, and it is certainly not harmonious with the surrounding buildings. I do have a 16 foot tape measure. I can show you how large that is. 12 feet is also very large. Um I think this sign should have reasonable dimensions in order to
harmonize with the surroundings on Route One. And I would ask the board to recommend a more appropriately sized sign as a condition of approval. Thanks. Thank you, Marie. Okay. Uh, we'll close the floor to public comments. Um, any more board
comments before we vote? Jay, I have a question then. Is there any way that we could ask for the sign to be lower than 60 square feet? I just asked our attorney the same
question and he said that uh yes, we can um you would have to um kind of use some of those code requirements to to apply it like uh compatibility um that are in those standards that we apply but um legally you you could make
that recommendation. Okay. Yeah, I I do totally agree that the size of the sign should be measure it with the size of the building, not Yeah. I mean, one to to Marie's point, our our sign code
is written to be is geared more towards the shopping plazas. So, that's where you get the 16T height. Um where you have the individual kind of single buildings um like this, typically it'd be a little bit smaller. So, yeah. Um
I totally agree. I think there there would be some some legal justification for for that. Um can I ask though is part of the reason for the height because of the sightelines for it? Like I'm just curious. I presume they didn't just try to max out what was allowed
under code. There's probably a reason for the one photo. Oh, we're standing. Oh, now we're standing. Okay. I guess I guess we can sit behind you. Yeah, we can sit with any least.
Someone can sit on my lap. I'm just kidding. Oh, you can sit.