multif family residential where you can't really get anywhere from them that are in the old Dixie or US1 corridor but for the most part get to a lot of places. So, you know, why why low speed vehicles? Why why become a low-speed vehicle friendly community? U now there
isn't a lot of data on this and there's not a lot of articles. So, some of the things that I I found were were kind of from the golf cart industry that was trying to hype up low speed vehicles. So, take some of it with a grain of salt. Um, you know, I found an article titled the rise of car- friendly neighborhoods, which was kind of put out
by an industry publication. It did say that, um, communities that have strong vehicle or golf cart infrastructure experience property value increases between 5 and 15%. Because they improve mobility, connectivity, and social interaction, and and they u people want
to live in places where you could do that. uh golf cart options feature. Noted residents in golf cart friendly communities report higher neighborhood satisfaction because people tend to talk to each other more in a golf cart than in a car. Right? If you're if your neighbors driving by in a low-speed vehicle and you see them going by, it's
much easier to flag them now and say, "Hey, come talk." than if they're in a car. Um this is opinion, but I I think low speed vehicles would make residents more likely to support local businesses into Questa rather than drive far away. So,
if you could take your golf cart and you knew that you could park it at Gallery Grill and grab a dinner with your family and it was a nice night, it'd be might that might be more appealing for someone to drive their low speed vehicle there rather than maybe hop in a car and drive
to Jupiter. So, that's my opinion. I but I think it would make our residents more likely to um to go, you know, buy a coffee at a local business or, you know, support their local businesses. Also, according to Stanford low-speed vehicle report, communities that adopt LSVs for
short trips can reduce vehicle related greenhouse gas emissions by 20 uh 10 to 20% compared to auto dependent suburbs. And that's because a low-speed vehicle uses roughly 5 to 10% of the energy of a standard gasoline car mile travel, of
course, because they're electric. Also something that you don't really think about, but low- speed vehicles do cost uh less pavement wear and tear over the long term um because they're lighter and that does over the long term save a little bit of money on on roadway
maintenance costs. Uh drivers tend to be more alert and courteous in mixed speed environments where low- speed vehicles, pedestrians, cyclists are involved. So, it could it could have the effect of making it a little bit more of a pedestrian friendly uh community and a place where maybe
people aren't aren't, you know, flying through. Um, you know, so it might make it safer for kids and everyone to kind of play play outside. Uh, and low speed vehicle friendly communities are part of the local culture. Colorful customized carts are used in parades and community events. If you've ever been to the
villages, I mean, everyone there, I know Molly, you've got family there. Um, you know, a lot of people have souped up low- speed vehicles and it kind of becomes a source of pride and um and so that's that's always kind of a fun thing that they do. Um, low speed vehicle
friendly towns often market themselves as kind of eco-conscious or quaint destinations appealing to visitors looking for a small town experience. It does create a little bit of of kind of a resort type feel in the community. Um, yep. >> And here's a few examples of of low speed vehicles. I'm sure you've seen
them all. You know, sometimes they're they're two-seaters, sometimes they can be four or six seaters. Um, sometimes they can have the seats in the back facing backwards. Um, but a lot of times they're just like a car. You've got you got seat belts, you got armrests. Again, here's here's a souped up one
that looks like a like an armor or something. Um, and if you go to villages, there are a lot of people that have these like Cadillac ones and and kind of souped up different ones from actual car makers. Uh, here's one. disregard the University of Miami on there, but uh that's uh
another kind of souped up one. And then here's kind of, you know, more of a futuristic modern one um that looks, you know, looks pretty sleek and and slick. And then if you've ever been in the Jupiter Inlet Village area, um you've
probably seen Zeke's. So they can also be used um kind of for transportation purposes. Um and and I know you know the town of Jupiter I think I know at one point was subsidizing this partially. I don't know if they still are or not but um it's a nice service and you know help
support the local businesses there. So some low speed vehicle friendly communities in Florida. I'm just going to use two examples that I'm familiar with. Um first one is the villages. I mean everyone drives their low speed vehicles everywhere there. Um the the elderly folks and retirees that live
there love it. It's a great, you know, factor of quality of life there. My wife's grandma lives there, so I've spent a ton of time there and, uh, it's it it's just it's a fun environment. Uh, here's another example. Um, so here's a St. Patrick's Day parade
where everyone, you know, decorates their their low speed vehicle and drives around the the urban area. And then another one is Nagati. It's a suburb of Jacksonville. I'm not sure how many people are familiar with it, but it's a new community, but it's a really
desirable place for families to live between St. Augustine and Jacksonville. It's a master plan community. It's a very golf cart friendly community. Uh, got a lot of friends there. They drive their kids to school every day in the cart. They go to the the water park or the the pools there in the park. They go
they take their kids to sporting events in the in the low- speed vehicle. So, it becomes kind of ingrained in the community. Um, and it was named uh the best place in in Florida to raise a family in 2023. I disagree with that. Obviously, Questa
is, but you know, I think have being a low speed vehicle friendly community obviously, you know, I think did factor into that. And they have a huge Fourth of July golf cart parade that has hundreds, maybe even thousands of golf carts, um, which is kind of another fun thing they do. So, how can we
incentivize low speed vehicles? So the recommendation was to create a policy that allows developments to receive parking reductions or credits when they provide designated parking spaces for golf carts and other low-speed vehicles which can incentivize the use of sustainable space efficient modes of transportation and reduce the foot
footprint of traditional surface parking. So the mobility plan states that both Steward and North Palm allow golf cart low speed vehicles to count towards car parking minimums. Um, I did put that in North Palm Beach code when I worked there and I'll show you an example of how we put that into practice.
Um, one thing I think you guys all did receive an email about this. Um, and you know, the resident in the email stated that there was no interest in adding low-speed vehicle and golf cart parking from residents during mobility plan outreach. That's a little bit of a misnomer. Um what we did is during
during the public outreach there were uh a lot of pictures of of different transportation related features and then you were given a green dot or a red dot and or maybe I think it was three green dots for your top three choices and then red dots for anything you didn't like.
And so nobody picked nobody put their green dots on there because it's you know it's one of those things where it may not be in your top three most exciting things but it might be your number five thing or your number seven thing. And it was also called multimmodal parking. So it included golf
cart parking and bicycle parking. So I mean I think everyone would agree it's good to have bicycle parking when in in commercial developments, right? And so um I think it was just a little bit of a misnomer there by saying that it wasn't, you know, something that the residents
were interested in during the mobility plan. It just wasn't a top priority. Two of the priorities that did get a lot of votes, however, were more parks and open space and outdoor seating, which funny enough, outdoor seating especially is something that can be enhanced through low-speed vehicle parking. And I will
show you in some pictures how that can happen. And how does that work? Because our the typical car takes 10 by 18 U for a parking space. And that's actually a code requirement at Tquasta. So the typical golf cart or low speed vehicle
parking is anywhere from 5 to 6 ft wide and 8 to 10 ft long. So using 5t widths and 10t depth. Uh a typical 10 regular car space wide layout can yield 20 golf golf cart spaces. And 10 is kind of the
common number of spaces that you would have in a in a row in a commercial project. That's the max you can have without having to have a landscape strip on the outside of it. So, it'd be pretty common for that for there to be a lot of strips of 10 different parking spaces
together in our commercial developments. Uh the the other interesting thing there is because the the spaces are less deep, you would actually end up getting 800 square ft of saved space because because they're not as deep, right? There's also a shorter turn radius, a backout radius or back in radius on golf carts. So, if
you ever actually had two of them next to each other, you'd have a you could have a more narrow driveway width as well. Uh so allowing golf cart parking to count for some required parking spaces can allow development have more room for green space, outdoor seating, storm water and storm retention and
other features and can reduce the amount of impervious surface in a project. All right, so here's an example in practice. Frigots in North Palm Beach. Not sure if anyone's ever been there. It's a popular waterfront dining restaurant. Um they have quite a bit of outdoor seating and especially this time
of year, that's where people want to hang out. they don't you don't want to go to a waterfront restaurant and sit inside just like at UT or you know some of our restaurants around here. So there was a lot of demand to add additional outdoor seating. However, they were maxed out on parking and did not have didn't have enough parking to for the
for North Palm to actually allow that expansion. So the owner was able to find an area where you could put five golf cart and low speed vehicle spaces there where there was I think only one or two uh car spaces before. He did he did an interesting kind of layout of that and
that enabled the expan an expansion of the uh outdoor seating. So if you look at the very bottom of that picture there's two green umbrellas right on the waterfront. There was a little u overhang over the water and there's now I think two or three more maybe four more um dining tables there. So um
that's kind of an example of how it helped a small business in practice. I think that's the only one that's actually utilized at North Palm. Um but that was uh you know good example. I think there's a few opportunities here in Toquesta. Um, you know, that the the email you received said this is going to
just lead to, you know, benefits for big developers, but really I think it in practice it's it's you be used for small businesses and some of our small small developments. So, Gallery Square North, I've talked to the owner there and the
um person that's representing them right now. As you recall, they did conceptual to enclose the the um old drive-thru there. During that process, I think they do want to look at adding low- speed vehicles to to that. I think it's a perfect location in the village to to actually draw low speed vehicles in
based on where it's located. And so they there's an opportunity there where they could convert some spaces either these ones on Seabbrook or perhaps even in the main um shopping area or main parking area. And that could allow them to again, you know, help help them enclose the uh the drive-thru there, possibly
add another second story space. I know a few years ago they looked into doing that. I'm sure um Lighthouse Art Center or maybe Danny Kay's or somebody else would want to expand a little bit of you know a second story edition here and there um you know could lead to you know
just an expansion of another local small business. Uh another opportunity is Gallery Square South. They have this kind of green space retention area there. um if they were able to convert some of their parking to low- speed vehicle parking or find some more efficiencies there, it could let them
expand into that area and maybe add some outdoor seating there. Maybe even do a small expansion of building to to to grow one of the the the small businesses there. And again, perfect location for access for for low speed vehicles. Another one is Village Square. As I
mentioned, you can drive across the Quest Drive, so you can you can get there from virtually anywhere in the village. Um, here's a great example. So, the uh the Greek restaurant there has outdoor seating and it's immediately next to parking spaces. And as you know, every half the population parks
backwards. So, you've got you got a truck backing in while you're trying to eat your uh your your street food. So, you could actually convert the three parking spaces there to six low speed vehicle parking spaces. And because of that 8 ft of less of depth I mentioned earlier, you would actually pick up 8 ft
of um buildable area that you could you could encroach into those parking spaces. So you could probably expand the outdoor seating out a little bit. You could definitely add some green space. Um ideally some sort of landscape screening so that the people actually, you know, that are eating there actually
feel some separation from the parking lot. Uh same thing at Hog Snappers. I mean Hog Snappers is just it's one of my favorite restaurants. I love the place, but the outdoor seating there is not the most desirable. It's not up to the level of the the restaurant is. Again, I'm sure they would love to be able to, you
know, encroach out 8 ft further into that parking lot. And again, all it takes is, you know, three parking spaces and you could add six six low speed vehicle spaces right there in front of hog snack hog snappers. And if you had a low speed vehicle and knew that there was low- speed vehicle parking, I think you'd be more likely to drive it there
um knowing that there's low speed vehicle parking available. um moving to Questa table. Um same thing, you know, their outdoor seating area there. I'm I'm sure they would love to be able to put some additional um green space, landscaping out there or
more room for seats in that area. Um so there's, you know, some opportunities that you can pick up there and and really in a lot of other places throughout the village. So draft code language, this is um the underlying things are or uh additions that I put in from the North Palm Beach
code. So, like I said, I drafted the North Palm Beach code and and now that I'm here at the village and I've thought about a little bit more, I think there's some things we could do to actually improve the language. So, the the draft code language I would propose would be that within commercial or mixeduse projects, the village council the
village council may not shall allow golf cart or low-speed vehicle parking spaces to be counted as one space. And that would have to be done through the site plan approval process. So, anytime someone was converting a parking space to a low-speed vehicle parking, it'd be a minor site plan modification that
would be coming into village council for approval. Um, they would have to meet those dimensions like I mentioned, 5 ft uh by 10 ft and the property owner would have to demonstrate that golf carts or low-speed vehicles are able to access the property from residential property.
So, in the in in the instance of of the the public's plaza, you really can't get there from too many places. So if that that property owner were to come in and propose this, the village council could say, "We don't think that this would actually be used and we therefore are not going to approve it." Um, but you
know, and like the Gallery Square examples, um, I think there's, you know, they could probably provide some some good evidence there. And then also, uh, it would say up to 10% of a vehicles or a development's required parking spaces may be met by by low speed vehicle
parking. So if they were required to provide 100 spaces, they could only provide 10 low speed up to 10 low speed vehicle spaces. So you wouldn't have a situation where they're just filling the entire parking lot with low speed vehicles. In an in a dream environment where the village becomes something like
the villages where everyone's driving low speed vehicles, we can always come back and say, you know, hey, there's a the the the low speed vehicle spaces are getting filled up. Uh we think we need to up this to 15% or 20%. there's always an opportunity to do that.
So other recommendations for low speed vehicle parking uh you know I think there's there's maybe an opportunity to provide low speed vehicle parking village facilities like parks as I mentioned there's some efficiencies there where you can convert regular spaces to low speed vehicle spaces. So,
so maybe um you know uh over on do or somewhere near uh Constitution Park, there's an opportunity um you know maybe some other places throughout the village. Um perhaps you know install a little bit of street signage throughout the village indicating permitted low speed vehicle
routes because we wouldn't want to do sign clutter. We would ideally just you know put it on an existing sign. So you might have a speed the speed limit sign and you might have that right under there. Um, I think a big thing we could do is just educating the the village residents on what a low speed vehicle is and where they can operate that map I
showed you. I think we could just draft an article up, put that map in in smoke signals and social media and and kind of tell residents, hey, did you know you could do this? And I think that could lead to a lot of demand. Um, and also, you know, one thing I failed to mention,
the country club, you know, they've submitted their application for redevelopment. They've got somewhere in the ballpark of I think 45 golf cart low-speed vehicle spaces there for for people. So they they clearly know that people are driving low- speed vehicles in the village. They clearly are expecting a lot of people to visit the
country club and they know we'll continue to to use low speed to visit there. Uh in the future if we were to become, you know, a big low speed community, we could do some of those holiday, you know, type events. And then, you know, one thing I think could be interesting, uh,
especially as the the technology improves and you get some of those nice designs, is we could start using low- speed vehicles in municipal operations like parks, public works, utilities, um, police department, the village manager. I was just talking to Jeremy today about how, you know, wouldn't it be great if
he had a special, you know, village manager, low speed vehicle that was kind of open and he would just drive around the village, you know, once a month and the residents, it would say village manager and the residents would flag him down and say, "Hey, hey, Jerry, >> I've got a swale that's not functioning
properly or whatever, whatever the buzz word of the day is." Um, so that's a thought. Here's some examples of some of those in practice. So, here's like a low speed vehicle work truck. Obviously, that wouldn't take up as much gas. Um, it'd be pretty pretty easy to maintain
and uh you know, might be fun for some of the employees to have. It might be easier to for just the you know, solo operator to just drive one of those around. And so, that's my presentation. Um, I'm happy to if you have any suggestions or ideas that I haven't thought about, open to any suggestions,
but um would like to get some buy in on that code language if and whether or not you'd be open to us putting that into our uh other code updates. Thank you. >> Thank you, Jay. Council, open it up for discussion.
Yeah, I mean I I think it's a cool um kind of we'll say forward thinking concept, although a lot of places are already doing stuff like this, but I there are so many people within the village that own golf carts, a lot of which aren't street legal. I I recognize that. But um
I think this it would be great if we saw more low-speed vehicles assuming people operated them safely and all that fun stuff which you could say the same for cars but um so question like just hog snappers for instance or that shopping center like pretty rough parking there
sometimes. >> So I think obviously those spots those are dedicated for golf carts. So if no one can just if you're in a car they wouldn't fit a regular car. Correct. >> Okay. So, like right now, if someone with dog snappers with their their
low-speed vehicle, where like do they where would they just have to take a regular parking space? >> They they take up an entire parking space. So, it's like when you see someone with a motorcycle in a parking space and you're like, "Oh, jeez." Right. >> Hate that. Okay. >> Can you put the ordinance language back
up real quick? >> Possibly make There we go. Yeah, there we go. Yeah, getting old here. >> Same. Well, >> it's right behind us, too. But all right, >> there we go.
>> That's better. >> One space. >> What's the I'm sorry. What's the standard uh dimensions of a regular parking space? >> It's 10 by 18. >> 10 by 18. the property owner.
>> Okay. I mean, so yeah, I think it gives council a good deal of flexibility on like whether or not these I think you have the may which is helpful, but then you also that I mean they'd have to demonstrate that golf carts or low speed vehicles are able to access. So that's
only so many areas like you said. I mean I I'm fine with it. I actually I like it. I don't have a I have a golf cart, but it's not a low speed vehicle. But I think I agree with everything you said. I think we need to encourage our residents to visit all of our locally
owned restaurants, businesses, and maybe if we did this and marketed it in a way that encouraged people to do it and did some fun stuff. And I think it just helps promote that kind of community environment and the vibe that
I think most of us including myself would love to quest. You know, that's why we're here. So, I don't just reading it now. I don't have any suggestions, anything I would change on it, but I I think it's a good concept.
>> Um, sorry, countywide road. What do we know what the miles per hour that is? >> Speed limit. Is it 35? >> So technically you could take it on county line. >> You Yeah, you could technically from the
country club go all the way county line. I mean Riverside, >> but then you get stuck when you get to Old Dixie. >> US. Yeah, you can cross Old Dixie. >> You just can't go on Old Dixie. >> I know. You couldn't go south on it technically by law to get to Publix. >> Correct. But you could get to the park
that way. >> Oh yeah. >> Yes. Okay. So I'm just looking for the little obstacles. I don't hate this and it's very clear that many people have low speed vehicles. It is very true like you said a lot of them aren't technically street
legal you know and I know PD encourages but it's a process. >> These vehicles are not cheap. No. Um, so, >> okay, >> I hesitate if we were to start encouraging developers to change the parking lots as
an incentive because for me that really limits residents availability as well as it's almost socially encouraging people to spend more money on a really expensive toy that you technically don't need in life.
It's a want and it's a fun toy. My other concern that you worded it to encourage residents to take their low-speed vehicles. I think we don't need to encourage them because they already do. Like when we go to events at
Constitution, they show up in them. I see them at Publix already. Um, so they're they're getting there. I would like to see us find a way to actually get the county or whoever it is have thought to help us lower the speed limit on Old Dixie because that would
legally expand the actual accessibility where they could be going legally without think of getting in trouble. And I think that's more supportive to the businesses um before I get on board with this draft code language to actually change it. And I'm not against it right now. I just
don't see the need for it right now. I like to ask, is there a way we could do a pilot with, let's say, Hog Snappers um shopping center and those spaces you happen to mention in front of the Greek restaurant or anywhere else in that
shopping center. If we just put little signs in front of those spots first that limit it to low- speed vehicles and see what the feedback is. My concern is you mentioned motorcycle parking spots and if you guys have been, which I know you
have, when you run into parking lots that have funky shapes, they use those weird areas for compact parking, but sometimes the parking lot's packed and you just feel like, you know, you're being discriminated against cuz you're in a bigger vehicle. And then handicap we need, which already take up a lot of
front row spots. So, my concern is if we start creating all these very specific type of parking spots, it's actually going to maybe create some disgruntled vibes. I'd rather see us try to find a way to test pilot this, put like little signs and see if it's, oh, hey, these
are awesome or gosh, these I want to I I'd rather see us feel it out that way than start changing this like this first. But I don't know if we can kind of pick and choose. We can't do a public shopping center because legally they can't get there yet even when they do go
there. Um maybe we could try it like in where um Gallery Grill is kind of single out a couple parking spots and see what the vibe is because they're singled out with a little sign before we start repainting and configuring. And then maybe one at Hog Snappers, maybe one at
um HomeGoods. I'd rather just kind of feel out the vibe from residents and they might come back like, "Oh, this is awesome." And maybe we even see factually more carts coming and then that for me gives me more factual data that this would be favored instead of
just start going down the road with it. Does that make sense? >> Okay. I just don't know how that goes about if we were to do like a pilot program to test it as a village. So I'll let you guys figure that one out. >> Um thanks Jay. Um I agree with all the
advantages of low speed vehicle. I think all those things are positive. Um, but what I have seen and my biggest concern is that it is a low-speed vehicle. However, it is not treated like a low
like a vehicle in the eyes of a an adult that allows their 13 or 14year-old to see it. So, my concern is it puts more response. It puts more pressure, if we create more opportunity, it puts more pressure on our police department to do that because um I can tell you this um
yesterday I walked in the neighborhoods getting my petition signatures and I um spoke with no less than a 100 homes. The single biggest concern is ebikes, golf carts, and LSVs. And that's on this side of the village as well. Um because in in
as I'm having a conversation with one um a family who's going down the road on the cell phone, no seat belts, no nothing. Baby, I'm allowed. That's my concern is that it is a vehicle. It is a small vehicle that is not treated like a vehicle. And that's on the the adults in
the home to do that. And I still see more and more 12, 13, 14 year old kids. and had a conversation on their way here where you've seen them bail, you hit they're not even stopped and four kids go. So, number one, my my first concern
is um just the safety of it. Uh and not encouraging more because people are going to buy if they want it, they're going to buy it and they're going to let inexperienced drivers drive it. Um but the uh just the concern of of of that and the placement within a parking lot,
if we get to that, it cannot be anywhere near the front. I don't believe it should be in its own separated like the best example was across the street Gallery Grill where Perk is and those kind of businesses. It's got to be separate because the way the the younger
kids and even adults come boogying in and they haven't hit stop yet and they're bailing and so I would hate to see kids that are doing it illegally bailing going to locals or something like that or getting ice cream and falling out and causing damage. So my my
concern is just having them um you know have more access around the village concerns because I don't think we're there yet from a public safety perspective. I think we're getting better on ebikes, but I think now we're we're seeing it. I'm seeing people gravitate away from the ebike and go more to the LSV. Just maybe it's
coincidental. It's what I've seen. Um but getting to the the language here and and so up to 10% of developments required parking spaces may be met by LSV. So say overall a a parking lot needs a 100
spots. So they can have 10 spots which is really so they're really only giving up because it's it's almost a two for one. You get two golf carts for one. So you're really only giving up five spots. >> Correct. So then you've got so you still
have your same but then you have more parking correct. So you're going to have 95 or 90 plus do you get more or less? If you're going to get say using 100 100 that 100 spot example if if 10% or 10
spots to get 10 spots you're only giving up five regular spots. So now they're are they consider are we overp parking it now? 105 spots. >> So like typically like in that frigid example I I used it was used to be able to get them to expand it, right? So so
they added additional square footage on and so then it became, you know, the same number of um or more parking spaces were added for larger square footage but with the same footprint of the original parking lot. >> I I see the the intent of that to draw
and drive more people there. you know, the Frigots example to they could probably fit 16 more people. You know, there's four tables of four out there. They do that by by adding that. Um, what I wouldn't want to see happen and is is is that I know it's it's not like it's
anti- business, but I don't want to see increased footprints of buildings because they're saving. They still need the 100 spots. So, and it's hard for me to imagine what that looks like in reality. You know, I just use a hundred spot example, but like in the Hog
Snappers Plaza, um what's the overall like would they and that's not a footprint that you could expand, but I would hate for a new building, somebody to tear down and say, "Well, I can add another x amount of square foot because I'm going to have my 10% aotment of
parking spots." I don't want to I don't want to see bigger buildings at the sake of just having more low- speed vehicles. And I don't know if those two can mutually coexist. >> You could tie it to only existing commercial plazas, right? So you could
say that it's only used when an existing commercial plaza wants to ex to add outdoor seating or additional green space, it could be done. So that way if a new developer was coming in, like let's say Paradise Park, they wouldn't be able to come in and do this. It would only be someone retrofitting so that hog
snappers could add more outdoor seating or perk could add outdoor seating or you know something. >> Yeah. So I wouldn't want to see a footprint be expanded and I understand the frigots example uh and what that did for that that individual business but my concern is having bigger footprints at
the sake of allowing more low speed vehicles and somebody saying well hey well yeah I can demonstrate that they have access they can get there but if it's really not going to ever materialize now do we have a bigger footprint of a building that wouldn't have happened before and if somebody
were to save space in a parking spot in a parking lot, say Gallery Grill, and they were able by by adding 10 spots that really you're only giving up five. Say if they gave up 10 spots and they
gave 10 for to get 10 low speed. Can we require any available spot that's left over be dedicated to green space or open space? Just so again, just trying to avoid having a footprint having an L having an L-shaped building and all a
sudden we have a little jut coming out. If somebody if they clear if they go to gallery square next to wine proxy and they close that in and by adding low speed vehicle parking can they I don't want to see another extension come out of there just because that so is there
if there's any space available can we require that or consider have staff consider can we make that green space or open space? I don't want it I don't want it to become a shed or I don't want it to become something else because oh I created more space because I I added more LSVs but now we've got a space for
something else and I just don't I don't want to make I don't want it to destroy the fabric of what we have >> and can we limit it to just a section not have it anywhere on on US1 maybe have it just at our what we cons I
call our downtown you know Sebrook and Twaster Drive area >> I thought uh proposing that and and having it be just west of the tracks or or just west of Old Dixie. So, if council wanted to, we could we could certainly do that because I mean the the hog snappers and and mood example, I
think it could be helpful there, but I think it would make more sense in our, you know, over here in what you call our downtown and our our neighborhood commercial area. And I think it's a more appropriate place for a low speed vehicle to travel to rather than having to go across Old Dixie and to go across US1.
>> Yeah. I don't want to to to keep beating the the horse, but my my two sources of heartburn are just the low speed vehicle is not treated like a real vehicle. >> Um I don't think parents would let their 14-year-old drive a Jeep
up to the stop and shop, but they don't mind getting in a low-speed vehicle. And I see it happen all the time because where I'm where I live. >> So that's a concern of mine. I think there's a huge safety concern. If it were to get to that position, I would really only be in favor if they were segregated somewhere else, like in a far
away remote spot, so they're not interfering with other kids, others, because we're still going to have inexperienced drivers doing it. I just feel it might be the 16-year-old that's doing it. Um, and then if there's any space that's created, like my last question was, what can we do? I I don't want to expand a building. I understand
the intent behind that, but if we're trying to encourage low-speed vehicle, we're trying to encourage growth. So, if we have low speed vehicles just to get more people to support the existing businesses, um if any any amount of space is gained, I'd like to see that or
entertain something to be make it green space, make it a parking island or something. I just don't want there to be another extension of the building going where there might have been parking spots were before. I think we we're trying to encourage low speed growth or low speed vehicle growth, but I don't
want to see physical asset growth. you know, the actual building is what my concerns are. So, those are kind of my that's more of a heartburn is right now. >> Um, I think this is a good goal to work towards. Um, but I do think we need to
be a little bit more strategic about it and um with staff and council really map it out a little bit more what it would look like. And like council member Brandon said, like do we, you know, do we do like a gradual roll out? do we do a pilot program or or something like
that just to kind of get the feel for for what it what it um could really look like because I do I have some of the same concerns that have already been stated. Um, my biggest is have we received any input from this from our police and fire departments because the
public safety aspect, the traffic safety aspect, the enforcement of it, you know, how how if there if we do increase the LSVs, how are we going to um plan for having them integrate more with, you know, standard automobiles? Um, I have a
real issue with them crossing US1. You brought up the villages. Um, I think I've been through that entire city, town, whatever, by golf cart. And I don't recall any major intersection, crossing at the actual light. They have golf cart paths over, so you go like
under the light. They have tunnels that go underground. Um, so you're not actually crossing those busy intersections. If you have someone crossing US1 onto Quest Drive and someone runs a red light, I mean, people drive 50 55 on US one. Everyone in that LSB is probably going to die. I mean
there could you even imagine? So I think crossing US1 is a very very bad idea. Well I think it'd be great maybe one day we get well I don't want to say this cuz people will go in arms but you know you lower the speed limit on US1 one day and it's safer but you know you have one accident someone running a red light
that could be um a horrific you know um accident there. So that's a big concern. Um the child safety I didn't see it in the presentation. Would car seats be required? Is that something we need to enforce? cuz I agree. I see people just carrying um you know infants, toddlers and you know one bump, one you know hit
you could drop the child. So um I just there's a lot too many questions like it's a good goal to work towards but I think we really need to be a lot more strategic about mapping out a program like this. Um the whole the development side I'm trying to understand it because at the end of the day the density is
density, the height's the height, the setbacks are the setbacks. So what are we looking at? I mean, you did mention a couple existing buildings could expand, but what are we really looking at from how much they can expand because there's just the code as it is sets a lot of parameters. So, you're not going to have
like bigger, taller building of that. So, I'd like to just really understand what that looks like. Like if a you know what, say this property took advantage of this like they could add 200 more square feet, you know, billable square footage. I we just need some more like
examples or comparisons so we can kind of understand the development sites. I just I don't see it being that big of an issue just because of the other parameters in place that aren't going to change because of this code. >> Mhm. >> So I think that's kind of like high level my initial thoughts. But again, I
think it's a good goal to work towards. Maybe it's something we put on our strategic plan and we just I think we have to do a little more um research and and mapping out what that would really look like. And again, maybe it's just more appropriate areas that we focus on. Um, but I really want our police and
fire departments to be part of the conversation because they're going to be the ones enforcing it. They're the one they're the ones that'll be, you know, responding to any, you know, safety issues and accidents. So, I I would love their input as well. >> Yeah, they so they've been involved. I've talked to Kurt Blanc about it quite a bit and he he's aware of it. Um, one
thing, you know, is, you know, I think if you get more people using low- speed vehicles, I think you guys have talked about they're they're starting to expand a little bit. I think the more people that start using low-speed vehicles, the the easier it is for the police department to to actually be be on top
of it, right? Because if there's if there's just a rogue a rogue, you know, person here or there, it's not really on the radar. They're not actively monitoring it. But if we if we were like the villages where there were low speed vehicles just always out there, the police department would have it on their
radar and would be, you know, constantly monitoring. Of course, it'd be more work for them to have to do, but, you know, um I think it's something that would make it more of a priority for the police department to they they'd be on top of it a lot more. But I can vet that more and talk to the to to you know, the
police department a little bit more about that. one idea. Um, back to Councilman Brandon's idea, we could do a test pilot. I've actually done something pretty similar in like downtown Jacksonville, which is like a there's a thing called parking day. I don't know if anyone's ever heard of it. They do it
in downtown West Palm, but it's where communities are trying to take it's more in like downtown areas where you're trying to take the public realm back from from streets and and create outdoor seating and park-like environments. So like on Clamata Street, that's kind of,
you know, a genesis led to them kind of doing a road diet and and expanding the outdoor seating. So in downtown Jacksonville, we used to do these little parklet test test things where we would take an existing parking space, street parking space and we'd make convert it in an outdoor seating area and put
>> Clemetus did that. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, um, we used to do something pretty similar with this group of planning friends I had in Jacksonville, and we could do a similar type of test test project here where we we'd have to find, you know, a user to do it. Sounds like the Hognappers Plaza wouldn't be
the best, but, you know, we I'm in talks with the Gallery Grill folks. Um, so that would probably be the best one. Um, I think the spaces on the west side maybe aren't as heavily used, so maybe they could be a good a good test run. So, we could do that and and maybe even have the village put it out there,
partner with them and see how heavily they're used. Um, see if there's any issues with doing that and if there's an appetite for it. Um, because to to everyone's point, you know, the last thing we want to do is to allow this to happen and the spaces to be unused and
then you've lost spaces for cars, right? So, but we may do this test test thing there and and you know people may may do it like crazy and you may see there's a big demand for it and that you know the police department thinks it works fine and so so yeah I think it's a great idea
if if council's on board with that. >> Yeah, you can do it. >> I bring that up. Um I fully agree with everything that was set up here. Um and I absolutely see the safety hazard of if they're scattered within the parking lot. So if we could find a way to group them. But my suggestion of the
compromise before we ever push something like that through that language, a a sign, a small temporary sign is so much easier to try out than starting to paint things and reconfigure. And I just knowing our residence, I don't even
think the village is maybe 50% own. So again, I'm trying to look at the mass of what would be used, but I fully agree with everything that was set up here, especially the safety hazards. Um, and maybe considering just west of the railroad tracks as well. I just know they already go to Publix and stuff,
>> whether they're legally supposed to or not, but >> um, again, maybe that's an encouragement we remind them, but >> No, you go ahead. >> I I always maybe wrongfully assume, but as far as the child seat, seat belts, age of driving, it's the same for a
vehicle. Correct. >> Correct. >> Okay. >> They don't they don't do >> Yeah. But that's a that's an enforcement issue, not a >> like me letting my, you know, my if I had a 12-year-old kid drive a car, same thing, right? I mean, >> it's actually even easier to see them.
So, to me, that's an enforcement issue, not a >> Yes, they're dangerous. I I get it. But at the end of the day, if there's a baby in it, they should be in a child's seat. And so, to me, that doesn't I think there are safety issues with golf carts, but I think there's safety issues with
just about anything. just following the laws and enforcing the laws is the bigger issue. >> Jay, >> I'm sorry. >> That's it. >> Um, is have we had building owners call like from from that side from the property owner? Have we had people call
and say, "Hey, why can't I get or how do I get LSV parking or are we trying to get ahead and create the demand?" >> So, I mean, like I said, the country club, they're adding, I think it's something like 46 spaces. They're not going to be able to count those towards their required parking, which I think
they're fine with, but they know that there's demand. Um, I've spoken with Eric at who owns Gallery Grill and the uh company that's representing him on his expansion, and they they they like the idea, and you know, they're not they're not begging for it, but they
like the the opportunity. I just spoke with the um the own the people that have 150 Questa Drive under contract um this morning. end up coming to to the next council meeting of the conceptual and asked them, you know, I said, "Hey, I'm talking about low speed vehicles. Would you guys be interested in doing that?"
And they said, "Uh, yeah, I mean, you know, they only have something like 70 spaces there, but, you know, they were open to to, you know, doing, you know, five spaces there." Um, so to answer your question, nobody nobody's begging for it. But, um, I think it's also one of those things where if you if you put
it out there and you and you work with them and you say, you know, to Gallery Square, uh, the the other one, you know, hey, you could you could maybe do something in the back there with this. >> Mhm. >> Um, something that may hadn't even considered. I will say for me
personally, I like that currently our parking spots all share the same size because they're very versatile and heaven forbid let's say 101 15 years the state does something against LSVs and then what do you do? How do you revert back? So like right now I have no problem what it is because you can't use
them. But if we're looking for resident data and response that's why I was thinking maybe the compromise is just like put some signs and just feel that temperature like people get annoyed by it. Is it creating clusters of confusion and safety hazards? Um, so I still kind
of stick with that, but for me personally, I don't even see a problem because I go by Perk and it's sometimes it's a full line of LSVs and sometimes it's all cars. >> Yeah. And I know at um, so again, I'll compare the villages just because of my experience there, but a lot of the
public's plazas don't have the golf cart parking and they they park side by side. I don't know how big their parking stalls are there, but yeah, I mean there you'll just see there's like tons of, you know, normal size parking stalls and they have they park like two in a stall. So, I mean, we just encourage that. And
then um also I again like involving um uh police and fire. I would like to know maybe from some of these um golf cart communities what the statistics are with DUIs and accidents with people that are under the influence because I know there
is that false sense of security. Uh it's known in the villages, right? People partake all the time and adult beverages and go drive and there's accidents there and incidents there um because of that because I think people just have that, you know, well I'm not driving a real car so it's okay. So, I'd like some data on there. Like, is there an increase in
that? If you're in a golf cart versus a normal automobile, is it the same? Again, I think like this is a great initial, you know, presentation for feedback. I think um there's been a lot of uh questions and um comments and
maybe that's some we can just work on some of that data and examples and like the development question like what does that really look like? Can they really expand and maybe bring it back to us again? and um again kind of map it out maybe uh how it will be rolled out certain areas maybe to focus on that
kind of stuff and we can revisit it. >> Sure. >> Okay. Any other council comment before I take public comment? >> No ma'am. >> The last comment I think you would um maybe be might be beneficial to get the temperature of a couple of the houses of worship that would like in this corner
Good Shepard Family Church you know on the other side of the bridge first pres have they considered it? Did they have people saying, "Hey, can I are they experiencing golf cart, you know, LSV or I guess LSV really not for all the three of the churches?" Just curious, just curious to that they feel that it would
maybe be beneficial to them or like, "Oh gosh, no, we don't want it at all because of an elderly population that maybe worship there." So, just kind of curious with that because if we're looking at maybe in the heart of Tequa, you know, one of the, you know, yeah, Perk is great, but I think Perk is the
ones where I've seen kids sitting on lap on the way. Yeah. >> So, just I don't know. It's a tough tough issue. Seems like it should be simple, but it's got a lot of lot of tentacles. >> Absolutely. >> That's it. >> Right. Any public comment, Miss Watkins?
>> Good evening, everybody. Pat Watkins, 167 River Drive. Going to apologize in advance for jumping around. I've been taking notes as you all say your thing here. First and foremost, overall, I would remind us all of the size of the village that we're dealing with. Okay, it's we're not a big municipality. We
have x number of plazas or other businesses to consider in this. Um Jay mentioned about expanding seating and green space in these plazas. That would be up to the plaza owner, which is obviously an expense. It may or may not be done right. um you're you're
triggering a competition for parking spaces out of the blocks. And the first thing that came to my mind is both Remembrance Park and the rec center. You already have a limited amount of parking there. If you're going to devote parking now to these vehicles, obviously
they're popular. I've got that. But for every parking spot you take away, there's a car gone as well. And how many people would use it one way or the other? Um, the country club, obviously it's a golf club. They're going to need a whole lot of That's that's logic,
right? That doesn't even um factor into this. In my mind, I'm thinking about the developments. We've had a lot of issues lately, particularly with one property trying to be developed. If I'm the developer and let's say it's condos or town homes,
normally with a two or threebedroom uh development like that, you would be expected to have two parking places. So, if now you're going to add on this site any amount of these vehic the smaller vehicles, am I going to give up one of my regular car spots in order to have a
half a spot technically for this other vehicle or am I going to be allowed to allow two cars per unit plus possibly the sector? I just think it's another complication that's that's coming down the pike. And this has to be a policing
nightmare because right now I can tell you based on my neighborhood alone, people don't listen. We have not only do we have them holding the babies, I've even seen the moms jogging on the road with the little guy driving the golf cart with the littleer
guy in the cart. Now, is that an adult problem? Yes. But it does happen. And I just see the whole thing as a safety nightmare, especially if you're going to allow them to cross Old Dixie and US1. I I just I
think it's it's just something I I realize I've hit advanced age, but this just worries the heart out of me. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Any other public comment? Julie, >> just Julie Bowmont, 94 Fair Duties. Just
a suggestion on what Pat was saying. Uh we probably ought to uh put it in our our newsletter what the real rules of the road are. I assumed uh road legal golf carts or LSBs were
allowed everywhere in anywhere because they were street legal. If this isn't true, I mean, I' I'd love to know what the real rules are for all of them. Um, where, how, and that was really interesting that you have to have a car
seat with them. I mean, none of them do. I don't think I've ever seen one in. So, maybe we could, I don't know, do some type of informative thing to the public. That would be really helpful to all of us. I think >> any that's it. >> Thank you, Joe. >> Thank you.
>> Okay. Thank you, Jay. We'll move on to item number two. Discuss Remembrance Park brick donation dedication criteria planning process. Jeremy, >> thank you mayor. At the November 14, 2024 regular council meeting, the village council approved the brick donation policy. To date, we have
engraved and installed 75 bricks at remembers park site. Um, as part of the initial dedication, the site has 900 bricks that we could install. Uh, at the Novillage Council approved the donation from the Paterno family for a plaque to be installed in honor of Mr. Fraterno
and his service to the village. Council requests an item for discussion to be considered at a workshop to address future donations or dedications at Remembrance Park. Um, as part of this backup, you have uh a draft policy which will include uh employee service
recognition bricks, council member service recognition bricks, special dedications and memorial plaques and administration of policy and recordkeeping and public recognition. Um just a quick summary of the employee service recognition bricks. Any
full-time employee request employee who retires in good standing after 20 or more years or an employee who retires in good standing after 10 or more years and service as a director shall receive be eligible for a donated commemorative
brick. Um and then the number two is the council member service recognition. Any council member who um serves completes at least three full terms of service shall be eligible to receive a brick and then special dedications memorial uh
individuals who have made significant lasting impact on the village of Tquesta. So those criteria individuals who have rendered extraordinary public service leadership and contributions significantly advancing the village mission, history or community well-being. Um the recognition may be
initiated by the village council, village manager or through a formal request u from residents, families or community organizations. Um further continues with just the approval process, the design and then some the funding mechanisms for any or all of
those. With that I can answer any questions you may have. Um >> thank you Jeremy. Council open up for discussion. uh someone else can start. >> Um my general question is we don't keep
the brick sale open all the time. It just has certain seasons that it's opened. Is that right? >> Yeah. We're going to do it a couple I think we do it like twice a year just so we're not like one person comes in gets a break and then we run out and do we'll do them in groups to make it be easier
on staff for us. >> Is that the plan though? um to each year kind of keep it consistent like in the spring. I'm just using an example like spring and then fall like just kind of keep it consistent. So if someone does randomly come in in between those times um staff can say hey we'll take your
application we have your signed off signature and what you want it to look like um but it'll go on the next batch kind of so to speak >> 100%. Yep. >> Okay. Just checking >> but we are going to do that yearly. >> Uh I think we're doing twice a year where we'll take we'll open it up. And I
see we have up to 900 bricks and we've only sold 75. >> Right. It was kind of part of the original push that we made. I know the historians had I don't know 20 or so. I can't remember the exact number and then we had a number of residents that you
know um participated at the very beginning. Um so we'll see what the when we I think we're about ready to open up again. I can't remember the date, but we'll see how you know but there's plenty of room out there for more bricks. I'm just publicly saying we have plenty of room and then we still do we
still do bricks here at Village Hall as well for certain things. >> Yeah. I mean we've only had two here at Village Hall in six years. >> Yes. We have plenty of brick space. Correct. Yeah. >> Roll around. Okay. >> All right. That's it for now. >> I have nothing. >> Yeah. I don't have any questions. I think it's
>> just two quick ones. Under funding. It says memorial plaques may be donated by families organizations or the village. So I guess the organizations like who what's an organization I mean are there
any limits on that or parameters for organizations they have to be local could a organization from out of state? >> So like a example that I just thought of um so you got the friends of public safety if that was an organization they want to donate for
a veteran of Tquesta they can come in and donate. I mean, I think of them as like an organization, but it still has to go through this process where I'll vet it and then council has to approve it. Okay. Yeah, the organization I don't know if we should put parameters that it
needs to be local or I don't know within the state or something. That just that seemed a little odd. And then my only other question um so it's the village reserves right to relocate or remove plaques or bricks due
to the park redesign safety or maintenance needs. Um and there's a the donation apologies donation policy. It's not attached. I didn't read it. But is it it's completely like at our own discretion. And so if the park was getting too crowded with those, even though it's not technically a park
redesign or safety or maintenance need, if we think they're getting too crowded, could it be removed at our own discretion? >> Yeah, once it's donated, it becomes a village property. So we have the ability to do at that point, remove it, relocate it, uh not put it back. I mean, we have
that ability to it's our property at that point. >> Okay, that works. Um, yeah. I mean, the organization, I mean, is everyone fine with that just being listed with no parameters on it for it being like a local or state and then it just is that
up to council to decide when it comes before us? >> I I think so because I'm trying to think of an example, but like there'll be a somebody that would be here like maybe was here for 50 years or something and retired, joined the Elks Lodge or something up there and he's like, "No, I
really want to I'm be buried up here, but I want to be remembered back into Quest." So, I don't want to would hate to limit what type of organization, but >> that's kind of where my head's at, too. I'm thinking like leave with me. We got American Legion. There's a couple others like >> ultimately it's going to be vetted by the by the village manager and then by
council. I think if it's some issue of moral turpitude or something like that, I think we can stand up and say we just don't agree with that. So I wouldn't want to put limitations on what organization or what type of organization could >> Oh, I just meant like like it seemed like a an organization from like Ohio
could but I meant more like should it just be local or with something in the state cuz organization like what if we get like something from out of state, some random organization? Again, just leave it up to council. Fine. Like I said, it just it was a little that was the only thing that I was like, well, maybe it should be at least like kept to
local or county or state and not, you know, any organization in the US could come and uh donate something. So, >> but that's fine. I just wanted to bring it up. We can leave. >> Good point. But I mean, I'm okay with the council and staff vetting it, the manager and kind of fariting out
anything that might be doesn't make sense. >> Okay, sounds good. Any public comment? Nope. Okay, moving on. Agenda item three, utilities department update. Alison, >> good evening, mayor, vice mayor,
councel. Allison Felsburg, utilities deputy director, and I am pleased tonight to be providing you with an update on our utilities department. Um so through this presentation I'll just touch on um some of our capital and daily operations of our various
divisions including storm water production distribution and customer service and billing. So starting off with storm water capital projects. Um some three major projects we have going on. Doitch living shoreline soil reclamation and then storm water pipelining.
Doitch living shoreline I'm sure you've heard plenty of but it's a 50% FD grant funded project. The remaining 50% is a shared cost between the town of Jupiter and the village. Um, this contract has been underway. It's about 50% complete now. That picture in the top right is
the canal before this project began. Below that is the conceptual of what it should look like after. The bottom two pictures on the right and middle, those are in progress pictures of the bank stabilization on the village of Tquesta portion of the ditch. Um so you can see
them towing in that filter fabric adding the rip wrap and then the picture on the left is the finished village of Questa side. Obviously there will be sawed on the actual um bank of it. But then that black filter fabric you see there will be uh plants to incorporate that living
shoreline but they can't be planted until after after December 15th just due to the king tides making sure that they stay alive. Um so that project is underway. It's coming along nicely. Swaleil reclamation. Um, swailes are crucial to our storm water management
and treatment throughout the village. For FY26, we do plan on going to Dover Circle, Garden Street, and North Dover Road. Um, the majority of this project of these projects are performed inhouse. We do believe that with Garden Street, we may have to work with a contractor
just cuz it's a little bit more intensive than what our guys can handle with the amount of work they have going on right now. Um, but our Fair View soil reclamation was completed in October with the southside being completed in August and the north side in October. So, you can kind of see that before picture on top and the after picture on
the bottom. Um, the after picture, the whole purpose of the soil is to take the water and get it off the road. The majority of it was taken off the road. This was in an extreme rain event, so there is still some pooling there, but this was literally the morning right after the rain. So we think this project
was a win and we hope to continue that through this new fiscal year. For storm water pipelining, we have five areas we plan to line this year. So roughly 618 total linear feet. Um and the locations of all five uh projects
are viewed there. So we have Tradewind Circle and Country Club Drive in the top left, Leeward Circle top right, River Drive middle left, Golf View Drive, middle right, and then to Questa Drive on the bottom there. Um, we have found that lining these pipes is the most cost
effective way to extend the useful life. It adds 50 to 60 years of the pipe. So it's it's much more effective than going in and fully replacing the pipes, especially when those pipes run between um property lines like the middle left one and middle right that you see there. Um the status for this project, we have
received two quotes. We're awaiting at least one more. We may have to um draw back on some of these projects just based on the pricing, but our goal is to try to complete all five. And we plan to bring those proposals in December or January.
Moving into the more day-to-day operations for our storm water division, um this would include pond inspections, our plans, maps, and GIS, and our Dober Road and Oak AB storm water structure repair. So ponds collect the water majority from
streets. So they're very very important. Um and so we plan to go into these ponds, inspect the inlets and outlets by having a diver go into the pond. Go clear out any debris that may be impeding flow into these ponds. Um locations include Fairway North, Bunker
Place Fairway East, Country Club Drive and Palmetto Way, Fair View, Fairway West and East, and then Giew Drive and Fair View West. So all of those locations are pictured there. In most of these locations, you have at least two, if not three inlets and outlet that inlets and outlets that would be
inspected. And um we are receiving those quotes and we'll bring them to council when we have um enough of them received for our storm water plans, maps, and GIS. This has really been a goal for us over the last couple of fiscal years, but um we really want to provide a
visual representation of all the projects that we've completed related to storm water pipelining, structure installation, and soil regrading or reclamation and then show where we plan to go in the coming fiscal years. Um we anticipate this will look something similar to the water main map which is
pictured in the bottom left. Um just a good way for us to kind of tell our story over time and and see how far we've come. And so the status of that we have our project layer layer that was set up by our GIS consultant that was on September 18th, 2025. And then we have
started our work on entering the projects at least that have been completed and then we'll work towards entering the ones that are planned. Do road and OKAB stormwater structure repair. Last fiscal year, one of our staff members um was walking their
neighborhood and noticed um a divot in the road. And so we went out there, we inspected, we actually found the storm water structure that we didn't know existed because it's so old. Um, so we went in, we made a temporary a temporary repair to ensure the safety and that there wasn't any further damage to the
road, but with new fiscal year funding, we will be going in and making a more permanent repair and quotes are underway for that project as well. Transitioning to production, some of the capital projects will be the filter media replacement, reverse osmosis membrane replacement, water treatment
plant improvements, water treatment master plan, and surficial well 28 design. Um the filter media replacement. Um we have six filter vessels at the water treatment plant. They're conventional filters. They previously had green sand in them. Um and then anthraite and sand
was added over time. Um, but these filters, the first four were installed in 1982, so they're about 43 years old. And then filters five and six were installed in 88, um, being 37 years old. And for the most part, the media and internal components in these vessels
were all original. So they're they're pretty old. And so we've gone into the first two vessels, which are vessel four and six, and we've completely removed the media. The contractor sandlasted. So you can see those pictures of the sand blasted vessels up top. Um, and what you
may notice is in the the top left one, there's holes all on the bottom of that vessel. Those aren't supposed to be there. Um, so there's just pitting that happened over time. So, the contractor is working to complete some welding repairs on the bottom of the vessel and then it'll be filled back up with new
media, um, and new internal headers replaced and then placed back into service and they'll move on to the next two. um this project there was a slight delay in the project because there was a the project manager got switched out over time in the very very beginning and
so they are a little bit behind on the project but we're working to get them caught back up and back on schedule. Our RO membrane replacement. So at the RO plant we have three treatment trains. They have 160 60in membrane elements in each train. Um train two has the oldest
membrane. So that's one in the middle and they're about 18 years old. Train one and three, they're about 14 years old. Industry standard for membranes is 10. So they've well exceeded their useful life. So we're going in pulling those out and replacing them with a more industry standard 40-in membrane
element. You can't even find 60-in elements anymore. Um so the membrane delivery is actually tomorrow. We're very excited about it. And the contractor is supposed to mobilize on the 17th. Our water treatment plant improvements project. This is SRF loan funded. That
agreement was executed by the village on July 1st and that loan is in the amount of $5.745 million. Um the remainder of the project will be funded from reserves and it includes converting our gas ammonia that we have on site for
disinfection over to liquid ammonia. It's just much safer. It includes instrumentation and control upgrades, installation of water quality and monitoring equipment, and improvements to our RO system, including VFDs and possibly interstage booster pumps. Um,
this is currently out to bid right now. There was a pre-bid meeting held on September 9th, and the original bid opening was scheduled for October 2nd, but it's been extended now to November 14th. Um, when this project was designed a couple years ago because it had to be designed in advance of the loan, there
were some control components that were included that are now outdated. Um, so through the bid process, we've received questions regarding those components and must replace them with more um, current equipment. So that just extended a little bit of the time making sure we buttoned everything up and we're getting
the best bang for our buck for water treatment plant master plan. So, we completed our testing required under the unregulated contaminant monitoring rule, which is basically the EPA's way of conducting research in
occurrence data on unregulated contaminants throughout the US. Um, and through that testing, our results indicated that there was POS in our finished water sent to the distribution system that was above the future MCL. If you don't know what POS are, they're a hot topic in the water industry. They
are per and poly floral alkal chemicals. Um, and they're very very persistent in the envir in the environment. They're hard to break down. Um, and so through reclaimed water, through waste water, through just kind of everything that's in the air, um, it gets into the the
surficial aquifer. And if we don't change our treatment process, um, we won't be in compliance by 2029/2031 deadline. Um, right now the official deadline is 2029, but EK has come out with a press release that they intend to
extend that deadline to 2031. Um, we'll find out and that should be finalized by spring of 2026. Um, when it comes to our our path forward for the water treatment plant, it's really important for us to take a holistic view at what solutions we're going to implement to meet these
deadlines. um because there's so many factors that go into play between our raw water, other regulatory components, energy efficiency, uh the fiscal viability of some of these options. So, it's really important for us to kind of look at every single facet and see how they all
play together. Um, so this master plan will will provide us with both short-term meeting compliance solutions and then long-term compliance plans um to make sure we're implementing the best treatment techniques that'll help us today and then 10 20 years down the
road. Um, Kimley Horn has provided a proposal to complete this master plan and it will be presented at the November council meeting including a pres a presentation from them as well. And currently we are working on data collection. So there's a lot of data that has to be collected for this plan.
So we've already got a list of what that data is and our team is working on compiling it to send it over to Kimley Horn to begin the review process. And then we are evaluating possible opportunities to reduce the current concentration of PEOS. Um it's a little bit difficult just with some of the projects going on. We don't have a lot
of operational flexibility between wells and the taking an RO train down. We have two vessels down. It's um a lot going on for us to kind of move things around, but we are looking at the different opportunities we have. Surficial well 28 design. Um so we had
originally brought surficial well 19 up for replacement, but and I'll go into kind of more of our wells in the following slides, but well 19 is a great producer. It produces good quality water and a lot of it. So instead of taking that well offline, instead we're
proposing to move forward with surface 28, which is permitted under our South Florida Water Management District water use permit. Um, however, where it's currently permitted is that little sliver of village owned property that is um surrounded by either houses or FEC
property. So it'd be very very difficult to drill the well there. we'd have to either access it from the north or south and clear about 20 ft of trees on FEC property and it just doesn't seem like that is a viable option. So instead, we're looking to relocate that well to
the water treatment plant in the northwest corner of the property. It's right where our raw water man comes in. So it'd be perfect to connect to the raw water man right there. Um the only thing with that is we just have to make sure that the water that we would be pulling from would be good for quality and
quantity. So, we drill a test well. So, it's same depth. It's just smaller diameter. It's about 2 in instead of four to six. Um, we drill down, we do some testing on the water there. We can do POS testing. We test the iron. Um, just different things that we would have to deal with treating down the road and
make sure it's a viable option for us. So, we are receiving and working to get proposals for that. If we do end up drilling the test well there and the water's great, it produces a lot of water, um we would go for a permit revision via Lettermont of South
Florida. It takes approximately 30 days. Um and it's so close that our hydro geologist doesn't believe that there'd be any issues with it. And then from this well 28 test well, we would also get a memo from our hydro geologist on the anticipated depth um that the well
should be to get the best well that we could get. Moving into some day-to-day operations for productions, we have wellfield performance testing, RO membrane data normalization, water treatment plant perimeter hardening and beautifification, portable generator refurbishment, and gas fire cleaning and
scrubber media replacement. Um, so we have 10 surface aquifer wells, which are that shallow aquafer. It's unconfined. And then four Florida aquifer wells. Those are the deeper ones. They're saltier. Um, and we maintain all of those. They're not
operated all the time. Um, we kind of rotate them out to prolong the life of those wells. And in FY26, we did budget for the rehab of two Florida wells and three surficial wells. Um, however, we've been doing our performance testing and the Florida malls are doing
phenomenal. We don't believe we have to rehab them this year. Um, but we do plan to rehab three surficial wells and move forward with that. Um, we are still completing the wellfield testing and wellfield testing we'll do on a six-month basis. So, we continue to track the progress of those wells and
typically we're going to go in and rehab a well when it the capacity has been reduced by 20%. And just touching on those wells. So, this is a lot of information, but those are all of our wells. Um, you can't try to make sense of the numbers because
they don't make sense sometimes. But, um, the important things to note is production capacity. That's actually the specific capacity of the well, which is the gallons per minute per foot. And so, the way that I think about it is if you have a cup of water and you have a straw
and you're sucking the water out of the cup, that water level in the cup's going to go down. But if I put the straw in a pool and I suck water out, it's not going to go down. We want pools, not cups. Um, so the less water that goes down and the more water we can get out
without making it go down is better. Um, so you'll kind of see those. There's a pre-specific capacity. That's a pre most recent rehab and then a post. So you can kind of see the impact that rehabs have. They're beneficial to the well. Um, but you can also see that not every well is the same. They have different flow set
points. So how much water we can actually pull from the well. And then in the action there is um just some notes about when it was last rehabbed and then what our plan is moving forward. Um surficial well 8 is listed as last on first off. That's that lo. Um and that's
just because the well's not a good producer. You can see that in 2024 it was rehabbed. The pre-rehab specific capacity was 7.2. After rehab it's 24.4 but it's already gone down to 7.9. Um, so it's kind of reverted back to what it
was before. There's no point in us investing in rehabs again because we're not going to get any real benefit out of that well. Um, but we do plan to go in and rehab 19. Like I said, it's a great producer, 180 gallons per minute, and the specific capacity is phenomenal. Um,
and then we do plan to go into rehab 23 as well. And, um, one other thing to point out is 26. And so you've probably seen on the updates over the past couple of months that 26 is out of service. There's been some air intrainment issues. We tested the air and it's
methane. We tested the water and there was high TOC in the water. So this these are both indicative indic indicative of sorry >> indicative. >> Thank you. Indicative of um bacteria and not like a normal bacteria that we
would test for. And so um we're going to go in there. We're going to do an extensive disinfection and then we're going to do what's called airlift development to get any of that dead bacteria out of the well, pump it all out. Um, and hopefully that well will come back. Um, well 28 and RO5 are both
proposed. Those are not drilled. Um, but they are included in our water use permit. And the RO wells, we have less of them, but they produce a lot more water, so we don't have to have as many of them as we have for surficial wells. RO membrane data normalization. So, our
new membranes, they do have a warranty. um it's appropriated warranty over 5 years, but it does require the collection and tracking of data like pressures, flows, temperatures, and conductivity. Um so we're tracking some of this information, but it's in various spreadsheets, and it's not all brought
together. Um so we'll be starting to implement a new data tracking spreadsheet. And then with membranes, they're very fidgety. So um a decrease in temperature could increase feed pressure, but that's not a direct correlation to the membrane's performance. it's just that the water's
colder, so it's harder to push the water through. So, when we normalize this data, um, we're able to see the actual performance of the membrane, and we'll track it over time. We'll review it about once every 2 months and decide if and when we need to clean the membranes. And then, obviously, if we have any warranty issues, we'll take that data to
the membrane supplier and kind of work with them to get some membranes replaced. And we are working on the spreadsheet for that. Um, it's there's a lot of um calculations that have to be done. And then all the meters have been calibrated, verified or replaced in anticipation for the membrane
replacement project. Our water treatment plant perimeter hardening and beautifification project. I say project, but it's more of an initiative um because it includes a lot of smaller projects that won't be done by one contractor, but some of those include the plant security fence repairs, asphalt maintenance and repair,
perimeter fence clearing, RO2 tree removal, backwash pond clearing, gate replacements, and old well abandonment. Um, if you've been out to the water treatment plant recently, you've known there's a lot of overgrowth around the perimeter fence. Last year, there was a portion of the fence that was actually down. So, we fixed that. Um, but there's
just a lot of security um, and safety enhancements that we can make. The RO2 tree removal, there are some very tall trees. If they fall, they could easily fall on one of our RO wells, and they are very expensive wells. So, it's better to do the tree removal now than have to pay for the well repair down the
road. Um, and then you'll see those bottom two pictures are old wells that are on the property that never got abandoned. So, we'll work to do that because it needs to be done. Um, and right now we are coordinating the gate access and control requirements and install with the IT department um to we're going to try to go more towards
the badge access instead of right now it's like a garage door clicker. It's not really secure. Um, and then we are receiving quotes for all the other items. Portable generator refurbishment. So, we have three portable generators um that the utilities owns and maintains. We
have the Whisper Watt 100KW. Um the purchase year for that, it's unknown to me. Um but we are working to find out what it is. The Godwin 200KW was purchased in 2013. And then the Windco 200 KW was purchased in 1988, which is our oldest portable
generator. Um these generators are super super critical uh pieces of equipment because they power the wells so that we have water during storms. Um without them we would not be able to produce any water during a storm. Um and so the industry standard useful life of a portable generator is only 10 years. So
they've well exceeded their useful life. Um we have this year replaced all the tires on the trailers for all three of them. The Godwin trailer is set for refurbish refurbishment this year. So we are receiving quotes for that. And then the windco it is the oldest one. So we
plan to schedule that for replacement in the coming fiscal years. The gas fire cleaning and scrubber media replacement. Um so the gas fires are used as post treatment to our RO membranes. RO membranes they take out a lot of insolubles but they don't take
out gas um including hydrogen sulfide. And so once the water goes through the membranes and we have the permeate we have to strip that H2S from the water. Um so it's put in these towers called the gasifiers. There's media inside these towers which looks like that ball in the lower left hand corner. So that's all inside of there. It trickles over
the balls to increase the surface area. Air is blown upwards through the tower stripping the H2S from the water. And so then the water falls down into a clear well. Um and then that air goes to our scrubbers to recondense the H2S in a
more concentrated form for disposal. Um this packing is supposed to be replaced every 5 years and then cleaned once a year. And so our de gas fires are set to be clean this year and then scrubber media is uh scheduled to be replaced this year. So we are working on getting
quotes for that and we do try we're trying to complete that prior to the full membrane replacement being completed. Moving on to distribution. So capital projects countyline road water main and raw water main replacement. It's kind of
a production and distribution project but I just put it with distribution. our water main one to cluster drive water man replacement and our water main two beach road phase two water man replacement and fire hydrant replacements. So for county line road water man and raw water man replacement um Martin
County is replacing the bridge on county line road that crosses the north fork of the Wache River. Um this project includes the replacement of our two mains which are pictured there as well as a 12-in reclaimed water man that is owned by LRD. Um because of this, we are
kind of combining our projects because it's easier to have one contractor go out there. It's more cost-effective. Um but LRD is managing this project. Um the current status of this project, it was delayed for a couple of months because of the Martin County rightway permit.
The design of the project had the bore pits in the sidewalk. They didn't want them in the sidewalk. So, um we had to kind of work through some hiccups there. But they're back on track now. They're scheduled to mobilize on the 18th of November and then estimated to be
complete by June 5th, 2026. Water main one to Quest Drive water main replacement. I'm sure you're all aware of this project. Um, but right now the contractor is working. They've completed um a majority of the portion on the west side of Tquesta of the bridge on
Toquesta Drive and then they have moved to directionally drilling on the east portion of Tquesta Drive. Um and they do plan to bore from Riverside to Dover. And because of this, we will have a closure on Wednesday and Thursday this
week. Um just a daytime closure of closure of Dover. And so we'll reroute traffic during the day, but it's not onto Questa Drive, just on the the Dover portion. It's just not an actual road, just the intersection right there. We'll have a minor closure, but we have
worked. There will be notices going out on social media, letters to customers that will be impacted. Um, and there will be a message board out. Thank you, Doug. Um, continuing on, Water 2 Beach Road phase 2. Um, this project is SRF funded.
Um, we recently got the executed agreement on October 21st. We will have our kickoff meeting with the engineer on November 19th. Um, right now the the plan is to bid the project in December with immobilization in February. We might push that by a month just so that
we don't have water mane one and water man 2 going on at the same time. Just try to reduce some of that construction. Fire hydrant replacements. Um so the utilities department owns and maintains 630 fire hydrants. Expected useful life is 50 to 100 years. That depends on the
environment that they're in. Um and so we go in and we inspect these fire hydrants. We do fire flow testing. And if an inspection comes back that a hydrant either needs to be repaired or is completely inoperable, it immediately gets scheduled for repairs or replacement. Um, so the replacement
right now will all be dependent on our inspections. We have a third party coming in and doing those inspections. That should be completed by December 31st. So we'll move forward with any fire hydrant replacements as soon as we're notified that it's inoperable. distribution operations that includes
dead-end flushing, fire hydrant maintenance, and water main valve exercising. So, dead-end flushing, we have about 128 dead ends throughout our distribution system, including 53 fire hydrants and 75 blowoffs. Um, we're required to flush these dead ends quarterly. That's a requirement through
FD. And the standard industry practice is to flush until the chlorine residual is above a 1.0 milligram per liter. Um, however, our internal practices include flushing until it's above 2.0. um it's just a better practice. Um so we'll
continue with this quarterly flushing that's we have three sections so we'll do one each month so they're done once a quarter. Um we do plan to transition the documentation of this flushing through our asset management system um for better tracking and reporting once we get that system in place
for fire hydro maintenance. Like I said um we've recently contracted with Hydroax. So they'll come out and they will do inspections and fire flow testing of all of our fire hydrants. Um and they actually have a dashboard which
looks like that middle kind of lower picture. So we'll kind of be able to keep track of every hydrant that they're testing um where it's at. As soon as there's any fire hydrant that needs major repairs or replacement, a text is immediately sent to our distribution supervisor. Um, and then a little fun
fact is the little blue markers in the road actually indicate where a hydrant is. So at night if there's a firefighter going out there, they can just shine a light down a road and see where the closest hydrant is. Um, so if any of those are either missing or damaged, they will be replacing those as well.
And all this, like I said, all of that testing should be done by December 31st, 2025. And we do report the fire flow testing to Martin County, our fire department, and um Palm Beach County. Water main valve exercising. So we have
1,123 portable water valves in our system. The expected useful life is 30 to 40 years if maintained properly. Um so maintaining it just goes means to go out and exercise it, close it, and open it back up. Um this is best done with a valve exerciser. So we recently had
purchased one of those. Um, so the guys go out there, they hook it up, and it just opens the valve. It uses a certain amount of torque. It documents how open it was, if there were any issues or any push back from the valve that require further investigation. Um, and the best
practice for that, including AC main, is to not exercise the valve all the way. So any valves that are on AC main will not be closed all the way just to avoid any damage or shut offs. Customer service and billing operations.
So that's backflow prevention and cross connection control plan and our customer outreach efforts. Um so we took a presentation to the March 31st 2025 council workshop on options for backflow prevention and cross connection control to try to
increase our compliance. Um our current compliance is just over 50% compared to some other municipalities with a moderately established program that have a compliance of 60 to 85%. Um our current practice includes um for residents that are required to have a
backflow that they test once every two years and report that to the village and then non-residential customers with a backflow reporting every year. Um we are developing a presentation for an up upcoming council workshop on what our recommendation is to move forward and to increase that compliance.
And then last but definitely not least, one of my favorite parts is the customer outreach efforts. So we are excited to start increasing our customer outreach. um including some educational initiatives and programs like the AWA Drop Savers program which some of those pictures are on the slide. Um it's a
great program to start educating children on water conservation and the importance of water in the environment and in our lives. Um we also plan to increase project status transparency and just more education on our day-to-day operations. Um, and right now we have a
meeting scheduled for the drop savers coordination on November 19th and we are continuing coordination of efforts with the clerk's office. That's all I have. >> You may give yourself a pat on the back talking a sip of water.
>> Uh, council open up for comments for questions. >> Um, no, I mean there's a lot going on. Um guys are very very busy. Um and that's it's really we we always you know obviously there's always something
utilities related in council but it's cool to see it all in one just big slideshow of everything that's actually going on. So thank you. >> Yeah. >> Um no specific questions right now. >> Seriously though, pat yourself on the back cuz >> that was a feat and that was extremely thorough. Um thank you and I know you've
taken on a lot recently so thank you. Um, thank you for being just really real with us and honest. Um, going back to the do ditch. Um, I don't want to rant them out, but the youth are very excited about the living shoreline. Um, because it'll bring, you know, what's in there.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, and also it's better for the environment. Um, when you talked about swailes, I know you guys were attacking some of the swale areas. When you said some of the larger roads like river and golf, I definitely knew golf's on there.
Is that just targeting certain areas that have high flood rates when we have the rains? >> Yeah, >> it's not the full road, right? >> No, correct. And it's just the area where the majority of the ponding occurs. >> Okay. We still have some of those like key high flooding. I was just making sure it wasn't the full road cuz that's
a feat. >> Yes. >> Um and then what was the other? Oh, fun fact with the little blue lights. >> So, should those be in the neighborhoods, too? >> They should be. Yes. >> Or just main. Okay. It's not they're not required, but it's just a best practice to have them because it makes it easier to identify.
>> That's interesting. Just I didn't >> We have No. >> Yes. We don't have >> Wait, >> cuz that's kind of cool if you're in a rush and you have something burning and you just need to like look for it real quick. >> Oh, we have. >> They're not in our neighborhood. No,
>> guess not. [Applause] >> We have. >> I was just I didn't know. So, thank you for that. Um but yeah, good job. Thank you. Um, great job. Um, on the dober, to piggy back on the dober ditch, um, recently I've heard a lot of just
questions like, are we doing I know it's expensive and I've explained the long process to get to where we are on the the western side of river side, but are we do we plan on doing the rest of it because I hear from the people that live on it, they said it's just that's where the problems really exist.
>> Yeah, there is there was conceptual talks about a phase two and phase three. Um like mentioned it is jointly owned by the village and the town and we haven't even talked about design for those future phases. Um but the the real goal is to evaluate the effectiveness of this
living shoreline and how it looks and majority of the stabilization on the banks was the biggest concern and I'm sure it's a concern down the rest of the canal. Um, so once we look at that, make sure it's working good, everything's good, we'll continue with design further down and just funding as well as the
>> And my last question maybe for Jeremy or both of you, the um the well motors, the the well pumps, the well ones that are old and we just replace the tires on them. The uh >> generator, >> the well generators, >> are those on the the vehicle replacement
program? No. >> Can we look to add those? Because it seems like it's a pretty big number, right? I mean, those are they're powering all our wells. It's a pretty expensive piece of equipment, right? >> They are expensive. Yes. >> Maybe something we consider. >> We can figure out a replacement plan. I
don't know about specifically the I'll talk about that's more >> I hear you, but we'll we'll put them on some kind of plan. >> Okay. Awesome. That's it. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Um, two quick questions on the water treatment master plan. Are any of the
projects that we have underway right now at risk of having to be redone to come into compliance with PAS? >> No. Um there could be more optimal ways of operating. Um so like the membranes that we're putting in, they're 400
square in membranes. We could go to a 440 square in that could get more water, but that's a very long-term type of goal. For right now, for us to get to the compliance deadline, we would be implementing a solution that would be short-term. And short-term, I mean, five to seven years, all of these would have
had to happen anyways. Um, and they will get us to the ability to implement longerterm solutions. So, there's nothing that we're doing right now that is a a waste or would be changed necessarily. >> Okay. Okay. I just I know um the operational standpoint makes sense
because you guys do have components down because there's so many projects going on, but I just want to make sure we've thought through that we're not spending a bunch of money on something that might need replaced in like five or seven years. >> Um that which is well before probably the end of its useful life.
>> Yeah. For the membranes, the projected useful life is 10 years. We wouldn't if we were to implement a new type of membrane that would be farther down the road than 10 years. uh just because when you start talking about changing equipment out and the permitting process for that um it just extends it with
construction time and then funding. So all of these would have to happen to get us through this period of this transition period anyways. Okay. Um and I'm excited to see the backflow item come back to us. I think I've been asking about that compliance
since I've got on council and maybe council member Brandon asked pre. It's been a long time coming. I would really like to see that something be brought over the finish line and see those compliance percentages go up again. Maybe it's probably lower on the totem
pole because of all the other projects. By the end of the day, if we start having backflow issues and there's contamination, I mean, that affects a lot of people. So, thank you for bringing that. I don't know if you said exactly one, but I'm I'm excited to see that again. And and like I said, hopefully start to see those percentages start to come up for compliance. This
might be more of a Jeremy question. the county line road bridge replacement. Do we know when the closure is actually happening? And I think I can't remember. I think it was someone from Martin County. I can't remember the group, but they presented to us a while ago. It would be great to get like an updated presentation.
>> They have an update now >> um for the actual replacement of our mains. We have an updated schedule, but Martin County's kind of been waiting for us. So, as soon as our project's done or we're out of the way enough, they'll be moving forward. So, it'll be starting at least by that June date. Last time I
talked to Martin County maybe two weeks ago when they were trying to get more information on our schedule. Um, they were trying to kick it off in January. We won't be out of the way in time for that. So, they're pushing it to I think February or March. Okay. if you could have that team come back and present just because obviously it's gotten
delayed and I think we um should be prepared to send out some public messaging on the again it's not utility for the actual closure but um made me think of that. Okay, great. Thank you so much for the presentation. Any public comment?
Okay. All right. With that, can I get a motion to adjurnn? >> All in favor? Hi >> rush kids. >> Yeah for you to pass that mayor please.
>> Good night everybody. >> Oh man too. I'm still recuring policy.