Did you have a good weekend? >> Yeah, we were. >> Nice. >> Yes. They got seven awards. >> What kind of dance was it? >> Yeah, we got there. >> Wow.
Yeah, >> there was an He was going to be class David's Angels or something. >> And uh so we were just literally walking up to go to that. That's what happened. We didn't make that. didn't even make it
into the event. >> Crazy. >> It's crazy that it's like your head all the time and you're like, "Okay, not good." But yeah. All right. >> What's up? >> What's that? >> Yeah.
>> He was He's a toddler when I got him. >> Weirdest thing is it hit he got hit right here. Well, not weird. I guess I just like huge bump here, but his eye didn't hit his eye, but I guess just from all the blood like you can't even open his eye. It's so
>> He's fine though. >> They Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. It's always the worst. We came home from some dinner. I forget which kid it was, but they were fooling around and fell. Just hit their chin and just
>> stitches. >> Oh, yeah. So like what happened and what's going on? >> Just like a moment of like >> Yeah. trying to like figure figure out what's coming everywhere. >> Yeah. >> So there was someone screaming >> a babysitter kids was watching.
>> No, it was not even that. It was just two kids. They're fooling around a little bit. >> What's going on? I was talking to you guys. >> Yes. You know John, he's
now a resident of He. He's one of my best friends. His kids been a good shepherd and he was running into that house. This is like a year ago from the rain holding his daughter L like slipped. >> Yeah. Or something happened where she fell >> and she was she wasn't sleeping. She was
awake. I think they were just like messing around. It was raining. >> She was completely unconscious for like a minute and a half. He's like he's like, "Dude, I literally thought it was like I mean I remember when we what Ash was almost too
in Seattle. I was, you know, carrying her. I almost like got ice and I caught myself, but >> yeah. >> And you were literally just carrying your baby. I'm getting to it." You know, >> that happened on spring break, but the mom was carrying the baby and walking down. >> Yeah. >> Luckily, she was just on
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean, like, thank goodness. But that I remember like after it happened I was like I was like this is >> your heart right like oh my gosh >> I don't even know. Um, >> did you have batteries? >> I don't trust
>> chatting it up. Ready to start? >> Yeah. >> All right, let's do this. >> Stretch my legs. >> Go ahead and call today's meeting to order. 9:06 a.m. April 15th, 2026. And
this is our strategic planning workshop. Lorie, can I get roll call, please? >> Mayor Young >> here. Vice Mayor Payer >> here. >> Council member Brandon >> here. >> Council member Story >> here. >> Council member Stone >> here.
>> Thank you. Is there a motion to approve today's agenda? >> So moved. >> Second. All in favor? >> I. Uh the next agenda item is communications from citizens. There are currently no citizens in the audience today. So we will move on to our first
and only agenda item. 2026 2027 village of Tquesta strategic planning workshop. Jeremy, I'll hand it over to you. >> Thank you, mayor. Um, similar to what we've done the last three, four, maybe even five years, we we get together. Um,
for as long as it'll take, I guess today, um, usually set nine to say twoish. Um, somewhere in the middle, we'll take a break. And we will also uh prioritize and rank these hopefully prior to the break and during that break
we'll score these um and then come back for discussion. But you know our plan for today is to review our really our vision, our mission statements, our core values, discuss the strengths and weaknesses, opportunities, threats, kind of do a a quick SWAT analysis that uh
staff has done. Review and discuss council priorities. um uh really review the strategic 2526 plan and then what 2627 will look like. We'll prioritize this initiatives, discuss the roles and responsibilities on how to get there and
then ultimately in uh the next month or so we will adopt those. Um the I've had a lot of good discussions leading up to this. Um there was a questionnaire that was sent out to council through that. we had discussions back and forth and so I've developed some some uh initiatives
or the plan so we can have discussion on it. This plan is your guys's plan. It's not my plan. Um and so if you want something changed, it doesn't look right. This was my attempt to summarize the conversation to summarize where we are. Uh obviously we can change these
things. This is uh you know how what we want the village to look like when it grows up so to speak. And so if there's things that we think we should add or subtract from this plan, um, we can do that. Did give you two scoring sheets. One I guess you can do as kind of a
rough draft and then we'll turn the final one in when we when we do the scoring. Um, from that I just kind of kick off um, in our strategic plan and it's in our documents hangs on my wall. We have our values that you know that we
hold dear. This helps kind of shape um kind of our core values is our core values and it shapes what we do on a daily basis. And then everything kind of funnels into you know our vision and our mission. Um and then we have some some pillars that we have and this this
particular year in the 25 26 year the four pillars were physically responsible government appearance character and ident identity u municipal infrastructure and operational excellence. Um, so those are everything that we should do. All of our contracts,
every all everything that we do should fit into one of those four pillars as we make decisions. Um, and I just kind of summarize, you guys have these in the backup, so I won't go word by word, but operate a physically responsible government, protect community appearance, character,
and identity, um, improve municipal uh, infrastructure and level of service. Um, and so as we move to the I kind of did the squad analysis, you guys can tell me if we're off or we miss something. Um, but typically when you do
these strategic plans, you kind of want to know what your strengths, your weaknesses are. Um, you know, so in our strengths, what do we what do we want to protect? Because those are our strengths, those are things we do really well. What are our weaknesses? What must we fix? Opportunities, where can we grow? And then um for threats, what risk
do we need to plan for? Um so just some of our strengths that um that we've identified, you know, strong community identity engagement, desirable coastal location, quality of life, stable residential base, professional staff and governance, high level of public safety
and services, quality of parks and recreational services. Um you know, and I've said this a lot. I said even at our uh residents academy, you know, Village Questa offers a really unique um level of service where we're one of the only municipalities in Palm Beach County, one
of nine really that have their own police, fire, and water services. Very proud of that. Gives us the control to provide those services at the level that we want to provide them. Some of our weaknesses limited revenue diversity. You know, we're 61% um the
homestead properties. Um and so we're we're kind of a bedroom community. Um we do have a small organ organizational capacity which you know doesn't leave for a lot of succession planning. When we lo lose somebody it's kind of hard to fill those type of roles but I mean
that's the you know it's the way we've always been. So um but that is a weakness of our organization aging infrastructure needs and I know council this council and previous council has done a really good job of trying to get back to where hopefully in the future this will be a strength for us. um
limited space for economic development, technology, uh modernization gaps, and housing affordability challenges. I lost my slides. I didn't want. So, one of the reason, one of the things when we talk about our
weaknesses, I wanted to add um add a slide in here or a couple slides really, um talking about, and I don't really want to get too much into a budget conversation unless the council does, but um we talked about and I showed a
slide last year in our in our presentation that really talked about um the leveling off. We didn't have any new projects coming online. And so that was really going to change our trajectory on some of the things that we can do um moving in the future and that's really
what homestead exemptions and save our homes is really about um so if you look at kind of our history we had um you know certificate of occupancy for the ostray building then we had the seaglass um Starbucks mastriani condo building
reserve came online a big portion of the reserve really what you want to look at is your key dates what's going to be built by those key dates and they're always January 1, they take a snapshot what's built. So if something doesn't get co till January 2nd, it doesn't come online till the following year. And so
as we kind of look at um where we are right now just as the property value on their website on our dashboard, we're looking at a 4.21% increase uh which is one of the lowest since I've been here except for the first year or two. So, um, right now they only have us
projected $94 million taxable value. U, if you look at what we had in the past, I mean, you can see it was significantly more. And each of those percentages applied on a based on the the base value. So, you can see like, oh, you're 11%, it's 161, but it was based on the
previous year's base value. And so, uh, those are the numbers that we pulled straight from the appraisal district. But just really to to set the I guess the temper some expectations as far as you know our revenue assumptions and hopefully this is you know we have until
the appraisal district has till June 1st. Um so hopefully this goes up but we are seeing only a 4.21% increase in that. Couple of things is we just kind of look forward in the next couple years. We do have the reserve uh coming
online with another building hopefully um is the one that's out there uh that'll be captured hopefully before January 1, 2027. Estimated property tax to the village uh additional $20,000 golf course phase one. You guys have
seen that and and approved it. This is the the outouse or what do they uh the safe home or whatever the word we didn't like it out there. um what we call halfway home or halfway house out there. Um and and also the maintenance yard
estimating 5 million. So your additional tax revenue be 32,000. The reserve or they have four other buildings that they're planning right now. Um it's it might be a little um ambitious to think that they'll get done in 20 months with the new four buildings, but uh they do
have a new owner of those properties that are looking to move a little faster and do all the buildings together. Um so that's what our projection is. And then of course the Swan property uh estimated at $10 million is eight properties, eight homes basically $1.25 million per
home, $60,000. And then the golf course phase two. Um it's kind of a guesstimate at this point because we haven't seen their their plans, but um 32 months. I know they came in I think they said anywhere from 24 28 months. So um that's kind of the time frame uh frames for
some of those projects. uh some of the opportunities that we have uh obviously some strategic redevelopment infield overlay districts that the council set out and what we want those those um those areas to look like the regional partnerships and
shared services grant funding and resiliency programs smart government digital services trying to really uh take a seat there's some technologies that will make us more efficient as we move in the future and then environmental initiatives um and expanded community engagement. Some of
the threats, uh, climate change and sea level rise. Obviously, you guys know some of the storm water stuff that we have, uh, really taken on last couple years. Uh, economic vitality and inflation. Uh, state and county legislations. Uh, as you guys know,
there's been several bills that um are have been challenging home rule, including uh you know, some of the stuff with the county um and future annexation that the village may be able to do or won't be able to do. Uh workforce recruitment and retention, infrastructure and utility pressures,
and then regional impacts. Um any just kind of take a break. Is there any thoughts or discussion just based on the SWAT analysis or I can I can just plow through if you guys want. >> I think you've gone. I'm good.
>> Can I just clarify one quick thing? >> On the SWAT weakness, the technology modernization gaps. What do you mean by that? >> Well, say that one more time. Sorry. >> Weakness under the SWAT. The technology modernization gaps. What do you Yeah, I think you know over time you know
there's technologies and things that have changed that makes it uh you know some some governments have taken on um that we haven't we haven't done we haven't upgraded some of our technology. So I when I think of those I think there's some weaknesses that if we had
some funds or we had the ability to do that um you know we could stand up some of those technology modernization gaps. So >> managing the village of the Questa government side of things. >> Yes. Yeah. >> Well, maybe I mean if there's easier way
for I mean and so yes, it's kind of both ways, but if if there's easier things for our residents to be able to, you know, we obviously have online permits, but there's services that the that the citizen citizens can get into online, you know, that might be some things that
we can look at in the future. So, so this next part is really um my uh interpretation of how our conversations went. Um and so to me there's a lot of common themes that uh have that came up in those discussions and this is kind of the summary of these. I put together
slides based on each of those questions or or the result of those. Um some of these may have had two or three people say the same thing. And I didn't capture it that way. I just said, you know, based on the comments. So, for an example, not this slide, but for an
example, top priorities, these were all the ones that were listed. There might have been somebody that also put parks or also put public safety. I only listed it once but um from what council gave me the top and if I miss any let's you know we can have that discussion but top
priorities were public safety patrol and pro proactive policing train medical staff water efficiency efficient delivery and affordable rates infrastructure maintain areas lighting cleanliness parks to Quest Park remember it's park phase three were the two
common common ones when we talked about the parks taxes continue public education on property tax reform uh asset and facilities maintain infrastructure facilities the village gateways health safety and welfare focus
emerging issues and opportunities tax taxes and revenue uh to quest the park as an opportunity PAS and then mobility plan and some of the safety safety things we have built into that. some of the initiatives or transformative
initiatives that c that the council had some discussions with uh with me about is connectivity just really trying to provide new sidewalks. I know that the focus has been on you know really trying to maintain the sidewalks that we have and so we budget every year for $170,000
worth of sidewalks. This uh particular initiative was really tied to our mobility plan and we have some things in there with connectivity connecting Seabbrook to Riverside or some sidewalks that uh maybe on the the north side of
Questa Drive and there's some other ones do road um and so the discussion was really about can we do new sidewalks just to really provide um more connectivity within the village toquesta park was considered a transform formative initiative, village gateways
and tree plantings. Fiscal responsibility um um planning for revenue reductions, non-avalorum assessments, toquest a park funding and sustainable budgeting and long-term financial stability,
infrastructure and capital projects. Um these were a list of some toquesta park old Dixie the facilities some flood mitigation projects insure physical sustainability master facilities plan and then pas removal projects community
character and quality of life to really focus on village gateways which include county line and old Dixie the tree plantings um parks phase three and then uh expanded golf cart utilization if the village can look at some of those
projects operational excellence u improve efficiency while maintain levels of service reach out to new residents to build relationships ultimately I mean I think everybody was somewhat pretty happy with our with our level of service
and operations um obviously if there's some things that we can tack tack on to some of these other initiatives we will policy and legislative issues you know I think everybody was on board with really uh home rule and you know the concern
with property taxes. Uh wasn't concerned about you know the county awareness on initiatives and trying to hopefully get municipalities um in tune with the county on on what they're doing and try to tie it into what what what's important for us as well. building
department oversight, private provider compliance the building you as you guys know the new the new law that came in for the building department that was a concern and part of the discussion that I had with council. Additional ideas u maintain village
resident relationships avoid restrictive HOA style environment and align strategic plan with community survey and you guys all got the results of that um and so that could be a part of this discussion as well. Uh the next steps will be to confirm council priorities,
align the community survey, develop goals and objectives and create measurable initiatives and then prepare the final strategic plan. Any questions with that? Anybody wants because I the next step for me is I'm going to
want to stop and take a break. We have our our pillars which I was able based on what uh the initiatives that I've come up with based on our conversation kind of fit them into three buckets. And so I put together some initiatives some you've seen before on the on this plan
but also um maybe a couple new initiatives based on the discussion. >> Council, any comments or questions? >> I have one question. you listed some um initiatives that aren't on here. When do
you when do you want us to kind of consider if we're going to add stuff to the draft list that we have? >> Let me go after this next plan cuz then you'll see you'll see I base highlighted those ones that are on your guys' scoring list and we can it has maybe a couple more bullet points to it. So we
can go through those and um do that. So um really everything should fit into these three buckets, right? operate a fiscally responsible government which means sustainable funding long-term planning reduce the resilience on adalorum taxes and align capital investments and fiscal capacity. So most
of those key words you guys are hearing through that discussion that I had with council. Um and so this is one of those initiatives that are in in this particular bucket. Uh nonadvalorum assessment those come in a couple different ways. You you see them with
water projects or sometimes storm water. You can uh look at it with roads and even fire service. You know, I think all the conversation that I had, everybody was um pretty on board with looking at alternative funding sources
and and diversifying our revenue sources. This is one of those um one of those options is looking at non-avalorm assessment. Um we do we would have to bring somebody in to to do uh that study and to provide that nexus analysis for
us. Um typically um with legal and all everything included with the study it's about a $75,000 process. Takes zero to somewhere anywhere from we'll say 1 to 12 months. Um, and so typically you'd be looking at as a lead like a finance buyer if you
want to do like a roads assessment and that would be public works that would lead that. Uh, the other one that I fit into this category was our future uh master facilities plan which at the next workshop you guys should be getting that that um that plan for that. We asked a
consultant to come in, Song and Associates to do a a space study for us and then we have um a couple things in there which which includes the out there at the utility plant and uh bringing putting a util a long-term plan for a
building out there at the facilities at the utilities plant. Um so that was initiative that was part of that. The the next category would be protect community appearance, character and identity. It' be enhancing public spaces, improve village gateways, preserve character, and improve
environmental sustainability. Some of the initiatives that are built into that one. Uh to Questa Park redevelopment, uh that was a a big topic of conversation as you guys know. We had our consultant come in and and kind of
give us an update on that. Um since that meeting what was that a week week and a half ago um you know we we developed you know an estimated cost 8 to9 million um in that conversation I had as an update with our
consultant he did say that if we he's going to look at trying to put this in phases but the more phases we have the more cost it is. So it's uh he said you know if you're looking at eight or $9 million we have four phases we might be looking at 11 or 12 million depending on
the time of the phases and depending on you know the size of those because obviously the longer you stretch it out the more you know the inflation and cost will go up. So remember it's part phase two. Um
the other part to put into this um redevelopment is we also need to make sure that we and we do have a staff has put together some some estimations, but you know, right now we're in $150,000 a year maintenance. Um if we do put this
plan together and actually make it work, we will have to talk about, you know, what it's going to cost to maintain the park at that level of service. Um, right now we're at estimates depending on if we can do it in-house, hire some staff somewhere in the $350,000 a year range
to uh for contracting it all out, you're in the 500 to $600,000 range depending on what the bids come in. So, uh there will be some additional cost just on the operational side even if we do this initiative. Remember, it's park phase two. same same
conversation with maintenance, but um that has been on our strategic plan for the last two years. Um the desire of council at the time was to see how phase one has come out obviously in the cost that that is associated with maintenance
and staffing and then see, you know, how the community reacts to it, how well it's received. And so we do have that that was uh brought up in our in our discussions. The next step for that would be the design. Um, estimate
125,000 based on the estimated cost that we got two years ago, which was roughly about 1.1 $1.2 million was the estimated cost for that part, that portion of the park. The next one that was part of discussion
was remember part remember it's part phase three. Um, we estimated this whole this whole thing to be this whole phase, which is the part that's adjacent to the part that we just annexed. It's actually a retention pond, we estimate to be
right in the ballpark of $500,000. Um in our last discussions with um the developer of that or the owners of those parcels, they've agreed to pay $125,000 matching if the if the council want to pay $125,000
um to do some work out there. Won't get the whole thing done, but I think with some trees, um some obviously some saw, some some plantings, uh maybe some of the trail. I mean, we we haven't really phased that phase out yet, but um they have agreed to do 125,000 if the village
would contribute 125,000 gateway and beautifification. As you guys know, we just approved uh the work authorization um and then the agreement with the county to provide some beautifification. The next step was design. Ultimately, that project's a
$450,000 project, six to eight months to complete. Um so that was uh an important um initiative that was brought up in discussions and obviously with council prior um through through some approvals
environmental initiatives. These were the I think the EAC came to the council I'm going to say 6 months ago just to take a good guess at it and they had some initiatives they wanted the council to consider in the future. Um so these probably not new for you. One of them
has changed a little bit. I'll go over that. Um, but the the EAC uh wanted the council to continue to keep tree planting in the in the horizon. Um, the mangrove restoration rebate program. And so they've changed both these really. The mangrove restoration rebate was they
wanted to kind of they they wanted to ask the council to structure some funding that would be very similar to our tree rebate program. So, if somebody that uh planted some mangroves in the water that the village would reimburse them just like what we do with with some
kind of rebate or or credit or 50/50 share um to to rebate them for planning main growth. Same thing with hazardous materials rebates. what they wanted to do was do a hazardous materials event where people could come drop off
material hazardous materials and then uh we'd have to hire a company to do that and then the company would take it up to SWA up the road um kind of uh you see some communities that do that occasionally um especially areas that
are pretty far away from that SWA site or or that just drop off site um because we're pretty close I think the EA JC has kind of conceded that fact that it may not be beneficial for us to hire somebody to come in at 20 $30,000 to run
that event. Um, so what they wanted to do was some kind of rebate program. If somebody went up, took their hazardous materials up to SWA, they brought it back, brought their, you know, acknowledgement or receipt or some valid um validation that they they did drop
off that the village would credit them um you know, gift card 25 bucks or or something um just to I guess incentivize people from taking that instead of dropping it down our storm water drains or or disposing on the roads. Um, so
those were some environmental initiatives that they uh wanted the village to consider, see how that they rank on priority. You guys could, if you guys want, uh, you know, spread those out um, on on your guys' scoring if you guys wanted to take each one of those
and nish individually. I think I have done that on your guys' scoring. Um and so unless you guys want to put those all back together, uh improve municipal infrastructure and level of service, enhancing mobility and safety, connectivity, maintain high quality
level of service, improve resilience and reliability. Some of the things that were on there is a storm water resilience. You know, obviously from a funding standpoint, I think we're we're on the right track. We're still a little behind on our on our funding, but um we
do have um a list of projects that u we have um we have put together and we if this was a high priority, we bring those back. We workshop those and um bring those back. But the they're prioritized
by staff and our consultants based on the highest need for the village. And so, um, if storm water resilience is a high priority for you, you guys are you guys basically be putting a score to that, a high score to
it based on we just need to get projects going and we need to make sure we're allocating the proper number of funding for that and make sure it's a priority. We, as you guys know, we already pulled some money from the general fund, from the water utility tax that goes toward this. Um, and so that's that would be
kind of the priority rad to keep to keep funding them at a higher level so we can keep moving through that water infrastructure very similar. Um, you know, there's a number of projects. So to to list every one of them out on here for water infrastructure, we kind
of might be selling it short because we, you know, you don't necessarily have to pick one over the other. But if water infrastructure and you know the PAS regulation that's coming by the EPA is an important initiative, you guys would score that one high. We we have a list
of project. You guys have seen those. We continue to report on our progress for those. Um and so you'd be you'd be scoring the water infrastructure and those projects as as a high priority to make sure the staff continues to move at the rate that we're moving if not higher faster. transport transportation
mobility planning improve the safety and mobility. Um we did that mobility plan um not too long ago. Um and there was a list of projects that came out of there. There was some safety and mobility, there was some traffic calming, there was connectivity and then there was
there was also this you know the bigger project which had some smaller projects tied in but um this um parks to beaches project which also has some smaller projects. But then there was that let's widen the sidewalks 10ft sidewalks. So
um most of the discussion and if I'm wrong you guys can correct me. Most of the discussion was really centered around you know uh looking at this plan try to keep things try to keep it moving but on a smaller scale um safety mobility traffic calming some of those
things which hopefully will tie into some of these bigger projects. Um, and so that that's how you're scoring that one based on um how we how we've ranked some of those projects in there. So, I had an extra slide um
I can go over real quick just to be done with it, but I know there was a lot of discussion about trying to diversify our revenue. Um, and there's only limited the state only allows limited ways to to charge for services. And so as you as we go through this you'll see that we
already kind of do most of these um so obviously your adorum you know it's governed by the statutes nonadalorum assessments that's a special assessments we talked about and that's part of our one of our initiatives here to discuss uh we do not currently do that. Um the
user fees and service charges we do these um for most or some of our um u things. So like recreation programs, we have some programs we charge for. Um and and so we we already have some of these on the books. There are some things that
if we really start get into loss of property tax, we'd have to really consider some of those charges for service. That's how that would change. I don't know that we need to go there yet. Um impact fees, we charge to new development. So you'll see that you know
maybe in the past where we had some uh new development come in we were able to capture like seagass we were able to capture some impact fees for that. When you have some redevelopment you don't necessarily get a lot on impact fees um
because if you have units that you have 40 units over there and you go down to 38 there's no impact no new impact to the community so you're not seeing uh impact fees. Now, if you have 40 units and you go to 60, there's obviously an impact and we'll be able to collect some
impact fees. We have parks and wreck, police, fire, roads, um, and the county collects, uh, the impact fees, and then they usually distribute that, um, throughout the county on some of those
roads and and, um, development impacts. Some other ones, local option taxes. These are state authorized. And so we already we already have some of these, but you'll know that like the local option sales tax, that was a discretionary one that's built through the county. And that one um it has
sunseted tourist development tax, that's a county tax. Local gas taxes. The way that those work is that you have all your lane miles. There's a formula with lane miles and population. Um the county receives all those and then they distribute to distribute to
municipalities based on your lane miles. Um and so it's proportional to the size of your community. Um franchise fees, we are we do charge these for utilities. Um and then fines and penalties, you guys know, you know, we already uh allow for
those. They must follow due process requirements. And then intergovernment revenues, we already have those as well. So we're very limited on on what the state allows us to collect on there. There's nothing new and shiny out there that that that we've really heard from
and I know municipalities all over Florida were, you know, have had discussions and, you know, how what we're going to do if property tax is lost to be able to maintain the level of service. We'll continue to have those uh discussions if they come to fruition. Um, but at this point, I think we're
doing well with where we're at as far as fees and um some of the diversification that we have. Like I said, mostly we're we're a, you know, small community, veteran community. 61% is is property taxes. Some of the other part is distributed by inter intergovernmental
revenues and and some of the sales tax stuff. With that, uh, you have my presentation and I turn the floor over. This is where hopefully, you know, because we're in a workshop format, you know, it's very good discussion. Anybody has anything they want to discuss, I mean, then now
would be the time. Um but hopefully this document helps guide staff on future decisions when it comes to budget and and where you guys want to go. >> Thank you, Jeremy. And um like Jeremy said, this is a more informal workshop
brainstorming like anyone just feel free to speak up and chime in. Um Jeremy, what do you suggest the best way to tackle this? I mean, I just think we can go through each of the goals. um ask questions about any of the initiatives and see if there's any initiatives that um council wants to add. >> That sounds good. I think that's
>> okay. So, we we'll start with um operate a fiscally responsible government. >> I'll kick it off. I have some questions on the um nonadalorum assessment. So, is this going to consider and inform
us of all our potential different assessment fee options or are you just going to do it for fire? >> So, we already have a non-adable alarm for storm water and I I apologize. I did say we don't currently do it, but we have a non-adable alarm for storm water.
Really, the two options that you have and we have we have to be very careful because um really the two is fire and road to be the two that we probably most consider. The problem with roads at this point is that we've already done some
roads. And so when you charge a non-avore assessment, it has to be proportional shared to what they what value they're getting out of it. So if I've already got a road out in front of my house, it's kind of hard to charge that resident for that road. Um so we'd have to really look at obviously have a
consultant look at those. Um but those are the two big ones that would be considered if we wanted to go down that route. um which would be roads and um and then fire >> and then remind me can't um >> can't do it for police services. So
>> correct. That's a state state thing. Um for our uh refuge and recycling, isn't that one that could be an assessment as well? I feel like we've talked about that in the past on why we haven't switched to that, but I can't remember.
>> Yeah, I think that is one that you could do. was a non-Apple assessment. Um, I mean that's something you can consider. Yeah. >> And then if there's assuming that we don't end up having any major property
tax reform, would we be lowering the millage rate if we were to bring on an assessment fee or fees? >> That would be the goal. So like an example, if you were going to do, we'll just say roads for an example. If we wanted to spend a million dollars in roads and we could charge and we have to
get a consultant to confirm this, but if we wanted to charge everybody their fair share share of that million dollar for roads every year, um you know, right now we take roughly $880,000 out of the general fund. And so in theory, you could lower the taxes by that amount
that you that you get. So, a million dollars off taxes, you can lower the tax rate by, you know,.5 or, you know, and I'm just throwing numbers out there, don't quote me on it, but you could lower the the tax rate by 0.5, but then you would be charging a special
assessment to the residents of 0.5. So, that's a trade-off. So, that way when if property tax does have a problem in the future, you're still you're still charging that. And so, why there's a there's a there's a trade-off there.
So could if we went from say we added one or more assessment fees depending on someone's um assessed value for their ad valorum could they actually be paying more and
or less than what they currently pay via property tax? >> Yeah. So exactly right. So there are, you know, if you do a a fire set, we'll just stay with road a road assessment and if somebody currently um is paying
um and I'd have to break down the budget, but if if all the residents in theory because of our public works expenditure is paying, you know, 1.1 mills for for public works and the road services. Um, and the advalorum
assessment comes out to where it's, you know, a non-advelorm assessment, it might be $1,000 per resident, but is that more or less than what you're paying as a 1.1 mil for that service? And so, uh, for the high high
property values, 1.1 mills, and I'm just throwing a number, 1.1 mills might be $10,000. And so now they're only going to pay $1,000 for that same service. But on the other side, if you have a very low property value at 1.1 mills, you might
only be paying $600. Now this non-avalorm assessment, you're paying $1,000 cuz everybody has to be paid the exact has to pay the exact same across the board. It's one fee, $1,000, and that would offset by a millage rate, whatever that number is. So, some people
may win, some people may lose, but in theory, if you just think philosophy and how it all works, everybody's paying the exact same amount for the same service that they're providing versus right now, it's proportional based on values, right? And so, depending on how you look
at government as a whole or or how you look at taxes, that's the tradeoff. >> Okay. So, just something to keep in mind. It sounds like Jeremy has a common theme. It's early because those are assessment fees and they have to be evaluated by a
consultant based on what it would be pertaining to fire or roads. How often do you have to reassess and pay for that? Like you don't do it once and then it's there for 10 years. >> The property tax has its formula every year. So how often would we have to pay
for that consultant to reassess? >> So there's a state statute and I talked to Jupiter. I'm trying to remember what he said, but those those Don Avalor assessment the original study is good for like three years. What they do is they give you that study and you can plug numbers in every year. So if if
salaries go up or you you're buying a truck, you can plug numbers in, but every three year and I believe it's three years, don't quote me, but every 3 years you have to come back and do that assessment again if you're or if you're changing that value of that assessment. So, if you want to go to $1,200
assessment, um you're going to need to come back after three years and do that again. >> And similar to this, the water rate. >> Yeah. Right. Well, typically water, we establish those rates every five years. Um except for now that we did that, um that $10 capital charge, um the
council's agreed to do it every three years. And so, we are working on bringing that back to you guys in the near future. So, a perfect example would be fire, right? Like, and I can almost get together pretty good numbers with that. Right now, um the the average citizen
pays 1.4 mills for service. And so, you calculate that by your property value, whatever that is, 1.4 mills. And that roughly raises roughly $3.5 million, give or take a
little bit. So this assessment would go through and they would say, "All right, everybody in the village is going to try to make up this $3.5 million." So every resident would pay, you know, $1,500 to make up this $3.5 million. And so you
looking at your 1.4 mills, if you calculate, you times your property value, are you paying more or less than that $1,500? Some people only have $300,000 property value because of homestead exemption or whatever or just the value of their home is going to pay less than $1,500.
Some people who has a $5 million home, they're going to be paying more than $1,500. And so that's the example because that's pretty real with our fire. And that's why, you know, we look at 1.4 4 and that's I think that's offsetted by the the reason why it's that low is because we're offset with
some of the revenue that we get from JIC and the county and and some of that and the EMS charges. Now remember with fire services you can only charge for fire service. You cannot charge for EMS services. So your rates for EMS services should help cover your cost for those
EMS services. Our budget for fires $4.8 $.8 million, but we can only cover we can only cover a you can't there's a revenue portion there, which is why I gave $3.5 million, but of that last $3.5
million, you can't offset EMS services. So, it's it's complicated. That's why we had to have a consultant come in and do that analysis for us. Um, but if that's if we really start getting into loss of property taxes and we want to keep the level of service uh with our fire
department or our roads, this is the this is the direction that I would recommend. And I know that we've had this discussion and people like, you know, I know it's been come up like we need to look at our additional options. This is going to be the one that every municipality is already talking about. Even when I reached out to this
consultant, they said that they were getting calls from almost every municipality in state of Florida. >> So if I mean, do you think this is necessary to um go down this road if there ends up not being any property tax reform?
>> Nope. I think you know I think there's some value to still doing it, but I don't know if the value outweighs, you know, spending 75,000 at this point. Um, it's it's one of those things we should keep in our in our pocket. I think it's important. Um, I don't know that it's
it's never been important for us to have this non-AD form assessment. I think it's been talked about in the past. Um, but we've never done it. There are some benefits. Um, but at this point, if there's no property property tax reform, it's kind of one of those things. Do we really is it really that important to
us? Is there something broken for us at this point? And I would say I don't think so. So, I just think the education piece alone is so difficult to get everyone to understand it. Unless we have to do it right now, I wouldn't.
>> It's going to it's going to create some waves. Anytime there's a an additional fee, whether or not they're winning at the at the final outcome or not, there's going to be confusion. So, >> right. And then um I mean at the end of
the day I think as of now we still don't know when um the state is going to be discussing finalizing the budget and um uh the property tax reform.
I mean, so >> do we know that could be like the latest time that could be >> when it has to be before June, doesn't it? >> I mean, July, I don't know that that one's different because it's going to go on the it has to go on the ballot. And
so, what they're trying to do, it would have had to be before July 1st because they have to do they have to pass the the the bill that allows it for to go and it has to be signed by the government by July 1st, but then it has to go to the courts. Um, and so I think if it's passed by like July 1st, they can still get it on the ballot for
November from what I understand. >> So July 1st will be the latest, but I I don't think there's any time frame for setting another meeting at this point with or another legislative session for that, although there's been talks of it. So,
>> and then it seems, you know, at the end of the day, if we had to pivot, we could always still do this and take it from reserves instead of committing it to the strategic plan since it's more of a wait and see, not one of our long-term. >> Yeah, I
think that's something we need to keep like present, >> but not to pull the trigger at this point yet. I mean, I think we might come back and have a different discussion in August. Um but I or December but I I think this is something gets very
interesting. I think it's going to be there there will be a we will be a divided village. You will have people on the west side of the bridge paying a lot more than people on the east side of the bridge or not paying as much. I think you'll see a shift. So you'll have to gardens. You'll have our rental
properties. You'll have our smaller homes. I think you this is going to be something that I think it's while it might be necessary and it's probably the most fair and equitable way I think it's going to there'll be a tremendous amount of push back. So I need to keep it as an
option I feel but not elevated to action at this point. And just a fun fact, I know you had a comment, but I and correct me if I'm wrong, but I attended the final residence academy and the this assessment fee, you know, via uh hiring a consultant was on their budget and I think almost everyone
>> didn't didn't do it. Like they all removed all the res just so you know. I mean, like I do take that budget exercise. Every year we do the strategic plan. I take that into mind what I heard from the residents at the final academy class. >> From a from a um philosophical way, I
love it. Um I think it's a great way for more transparency specifically over the cost going to the specific service. I think of as um similar to health insurance. um my health insurance I pay the same as
my co-orker even though they might have more service that they receive. Um but as a group we were all paying the same. Um and I think that kind of fits well in with with fire service. It's kind of an insurance product.
>> Um and and so I I agree that there is education that would be and there would be some that pay in theory their taxes might go down on an annualized basis. Um, but I think that's where this is appropriate to do that for something like that. So, I get the idea of we're
not being forced to do it in the world of coming down from the state. But I do think from a long-term perspective of of really treating services in the right area, to me, I think the nonadalorm for for fire and even streets um more fire
than than streets, I think, makes a lot of sense from a from a philosophical way. Mhm. >> So, I'll be in favor of it. Um, just kind of trying to get ahead of it. But I understand that that does create >> Well, yeah. I guess that's a question is if we did just hold off. You just said
you'd reached out to one consultant that he's already he or she was already getting behind. >> Yeah. Are we going to be in a position where if we don't pull the trigger now or soon and come July, August, we do, or are we just going to be so far behind because
we can't even get someone available to do the the uh >> So, my my opinion with this is that, you know, if you guys wanted to move forward with this, you know, we the first step is do the do the analysis. You know, could be up to 12 months to do it. Um,
>> and that's the 75,000. >> Yeah. So, the other part of this is that, you know, I think, you know, and it'll be up to you as the council, but I think if there's a property tax reform between now and July 1st, like we'll probably have to come back to table and rep prioritize all these things. Like, I
mean, so this could this could all of a sudden be number one when we come back and prioritize. And, you know, if we have parks, you know, that we want to move forward with a million dollar park, >> maybe if we're losing property tax, that doesn't become a priority for us anymore. So, we just I think we'll have to come back and have that discussion,
but that'll be at the discretion of council. Um, so this could it could change your your what you just asked me, Patrick, right? Like I mean, depending on >> um what that looks like, we may have to really try to push that forward faster.
>> I think I mean for this one, I understand what you're saying, Council Member Stone. is more like I guess you can say an equitable distribution right of burden but I think for lack of a better term optics are important here um
because I think what you said uh council member stories it it's going to be a lot of education or maybe you said that viser like people aren't going to understand what that means in light of all the property tax reform discussions if we start discussing that this too like it might look a little knee-jerk
it's going to confuse a lot of people you know I think the timing is going to be really critical with this too, especially if we do decide we want to go forward and we we want the community buy in on that. Um so that's why I'm kind of like maybe let's just wait and see. Um and like if there is a major reform,
we're going to meet again anyways, right, to go through this. Um but then it leads me to my other question. It sound like Jeremy did hear a common theme from council that we want to try to um diversify our funding sources. So if we don't do this, Jeremy, what are
other options to do that or achieve that goal >> to diversify our revenue sources? We're pretty limited, but we can charge >> less problem. >> We can charge some, you know, we can all look at all of our our fees that we
charge for certain things. I mean, everybody's talked about, you know, I know other municipalities talk about, you know, you know, obviously inspection fees and, you know, talk about, you know, what we're charging for services for wreck.
Um, I mean, facility charges. I mean, there's some different things, but most of what we're going to be talking about is user fees, right? So, um, and it's it's going to be pretty limited. Most of what we're going to be talking about is how to how to reduce expenditures.
Can can we do a um a non-advelorum that it doesn't cover 100% of the cost? >> Yes. Meaning we take the average portion of the value of the homes and get that in there that dollar amount that will
affect pretty much everybody the same dollar amount and then make the difference using >> I mean you can Jupiter when they did their non their non-adorm assessment for fire I think they're only charging like 15% of the max that they could charge because they
have the revenue in their in their you know in their funds to be able offset those costs um that it was going to cost for fire. So yes, you can you can charge whatever percentage you want that it comes out at >> because I think you could probably match it reduce that
>> increase the advalorum but then reduce the millillage. >> Yeah, >> I think you're still going to be in the same boat. There's still going to be people that are pay more. It could be less. It could you could mitigate some of it but there still some pay more. >> Yeah. So when we go to rank this on here because it says just the wording it says
nonadalorum assessment and it doesn't specifically say just the analysis. >> Should we and I'm asking you guys should we put on there an extra bullet where it just says analysis to rank whether we just start with that
to see what it even be or do you want us to actually go for it? Either we're all in or not. This would be just for the the consultant study and I mean I would my expectation would be that they provide us multiple options on how we could
approach it and look into fire roads and refuse and recycling as well. >> All three and if there's anything else we're forgetting which I don't think we are >> refuse and recycling. >> Well, if if we're doing this I think all of our >> I'm making notes so that way when we go to rank them I know what I'm ranking. Okay.
>> I would agree. I think you look at all the different assessment you could you could potentially do and have them come back with a >> just it just I think it just provides more knowledge for us to make a better decision. >> Is that 75 or approximately 75 based on
just roads and fire or can we throw >> that was one that was uh based on uh when I asked them for a fire analysis. I don't know if they can give us a high level for what you guys are after like what's our best of plan and you know I don't know if they how they'll break
that up but I can have that discussion with them. I was also thinking as you guys are talking about how to break that up like should we put a bullet point for fire assessment and then put a bullet point for roads like which one would you want to go and if it's just like first let's get an analysis and see what they
think or do you guys want to break them up and so that would be discussion for you guys so that way you could prioritize it. >> How would this appear? Would it be like on on a tax but would it be separate like assessment for fire assessment for roads? Okay. So it's not like a lump
sum. Okay. >> That creates more transparency. That's why I like that. Yeah. >> What is it if we were to go down this route? Um what does that what does the timing look like from having the consultant provide
us their analysis with the the different options to public notice to um I mean this isn't anything that has to go does it have to go on the ballot or No. >> No. >> None of this would. So, like what what what will that process look like from
start to finish? >> I have all that. They've sent me a proposal um which is how I got to 75,000. Uh I can pull it up and give you a ballpark. If you want to keep talking, it could take me a second. I haven't looked at it in a while.
>> I think it' be helpful for us to understand like what the whole process from a timing standpoint, too, because I'm not >> completely I'm not not in favor of this, but I I'm not in favor of doing it right away. Like I said with my >> my >> Yeah. Get information, educate
ourselves, like be basically be set up to pull the trigger right away if we need to. But yeah, just like I hate to be like wait and see, but again, like I said, the timing with everything and and the public perception like we just need to be really um
smart about that. and something that while Jeremy's looking for the um consultant information, I don't know if this goes under operate a fiscally responsible government or if we would keep it under uh the infrastructure and
services, but tying to the mobility plan projects. Um it's still technically an unknown, but the county does intend to probably put a transportation tax on the ballot eventually. Um
and then in light of the county white master or transportation plan I mean that that's the whole reason they went down that road so they are able to do a transportation s tax. I don't know the way that sir tax is um divvied up that
the infrastructure had a formula that was um preempted by the state. So every uh city just got you know XYZ based on the formula from what I understand and this I know Keith has this information. We can maybe have him recirculate
recirculate it if anyone's interested. I think the transportation sir tax there is no uh formula that's preemptive by the state. That's kind of at the discretion of the county. But as we're talking about and thinking about diversifying our um revenue stream like
maybe Jay I don't know Jay if you have any sorry to put you on the spot I know you've been um really involved with I park 2.0 know. So, I don't know if you've heard more information or plans on the transportation sur tax, but you know, we have our mobility plan in place, which I think helps with that,
but then to get any sax, like do we have to have fun matching funding in place for that? Like, I don't know logistics of that, but it's just something to think about. Um, not really plan for in the strategic plan. Um, but know that that might be another potential revenue
stream down the road. Jay, do you have any update on that? >> So, the countywide transportation panel that's going on is just going to come up with projects and then the discussion about how to fund those projects is going to happen after that's completed.
So, I think that is when that discussion will come up. Um, I've been hearing I think Jeremy too for a couple years that that was kind of the goal of that project was to ultimately create a transportation sir tax fund. So, this plan is going to come up with a lot of cool projects and everyone's going to
say, "Oh, this is awesome." I don't I don't know what's going to be proposed yet, but um I know there's some some, you know, kind of big ideas being thrown around. So, then once that's kind of thrown out, everyone in the county is going to say, "Well, how can we fund this?" And that's when that discussion is going to happen. And also, so we know
we cannot adopt the mobility fee until after Senate Bill 180 lapses in in October of 2027. That was always our plan, right? That we would do a mobility plan, then we do a mobility fee to fund those projects, but the state has kind of put a kibash on
that. >> What's the collection for the mobility fee? How does who who collects that? How does how does that be collected? >> The mobility fee, we currently do not collect a mobility fee. >> What if we were to have one? Is that just part of the valuation of the property or is that
>> it's it's it's just tied to new development. So, uh, like we have a couple new subdivisions that are, you know, in the works. So, when those new homes would get built, we would then collect, uh, a fee on that and then we could then put that towards some of these projects on our mobility plan. >> So, we're running out of space to be
able to do that. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> So, we're probably a year cuz I think that um the deadline for the plan got extended to October because it was July. >> Yeah, that sounds about right. So, I mean, you're talking I mean, you're a
year or two years probably before there's any if we know that's a possibility. But again, something just to for us to know that it's out there could happen, but nothing to uh bank on right now. >> Correct. >> When is that? Remind me from a mobility
fee standpoint. Um, I can't remember how long the SB180 goes for. >> It's October of 2027. And then are we are we have we
really workshop the fee and like are we ready to potentially pull the trigger on that as soon as um well basically October 2027. >> We have a quote from the the company that does most of the mobility fees around the state. Um it came in around $100,000. Um, I think that might be a
little bit of a way to tweak it, do do some stuff in House and bring it down a little bit. Um, but we we had been planning when there was talk of Senate Bill 180 getting done away with this session, Jeremy and I had had this in our strategic planning budget to to talk
to you guys about, but because it's, you know, a year and a half away, we we kind of pulled it. But if council ever wants to discuss, you know, we've got a quote and we're we're able to discuss at a workshop if if interested. But there's also a risk like, you know,
is Senate Bill 180 going to get extended again? Are they going to do another thing? Right? >> So, it's it's kind of a risk to to spend $100,000 on a study that I mean, who knows? It could it could get pushed another year or two. >> Isn't SB180 still in the courts or do
those all get dismissed? >> I'd have to ask Keith on an update. I think I think something got dismissed, but I think some of the the suits are still pending. So the mo mobility fee assessment um
analysis is that something that if if we did it now so we are ready to pull the trigger on that when we're able to would that be stale at that point would it have to be revisited or would that assessment from the consultant still be
applicable like say six months? Yeah, some of the financial assumptions might have to change based on inflation or or or certain costs, but they should they should be relatively the same. Something else to consider, you know, is that something we want to add on here
and, you know, get that assessment from the consultant done sooner or later so we are ready to to jump on that as soon as possible. You know what? I'd have to talk to Keith, too, because Jeremy, isn't there something in in SP180 where you can't
even consider I think you can't even consider legislation. I think that's the challenge, too. You you you technically can't even consider legislation that's related to that's preempted from Senate Bill 180 until it lapses.
>> Well, I mean, considering legislation, it's not like talking about. I mean, if we're doing a study, is that really considered in a strategic study. >> Yeah. I mean, how would that fall under that category? I would understand if we're maybe, you know, workshopping and doing the actual ordinance, so we're
like ready to do the first reading, second reading as soon as we can, but if we're just doing a study on something, I don't know how that would fall under that category. >> That's fair. Okay. We'll we'll double check with with Keith on that. >> Thank you. >> Thanks. Thank you. >> Just just to clarify, we already with
trash. We already do an online form assessment. So what we've talked about in the f in the past was switching from non-apparm assessment similar to what a lot of other municipalities do which is charging their water bill. We didn't really want to do that because that you know increases our staff our staff time.
Right now it's it's collecting nonad alarm assessment in your tax bill. That's what what was the com. It was about doing a separate bill for it >> doing taking a non-AD form assessment because what happens is the discussion
was if you know we recharge somebody $50 and they pay their tax bill their their tax bill in theory they get if they pay it early they get a discount. And so what happens is like we're charging a certain rate and we're we're collecting
5% less or whatever people charge. And so there's a little bit of an offset. So sometimes we have to raise our rates that we that we I guess charge to waste management or that we're going to collect so that way we can cover that difference. >> And so we are ready to charge a non-app
assessment for that for storm water um over two that we do. >> So yeah, that was discussion. I remember we ended up having to increase the percentage more than we were originally anticipating because of the um loss due
to people paying early. So again, is that I know you said from a staff's cost, but has that really been analyzed though that would that be beneficial for us to do a separate um separate bill for that or would it not
benefit us at all? We haven't done like a full analysis, but I mean I don't know that we had that much of a a problem. I mean, when we have had that, we've only we've had to raise the rates, you know, I've been here seven years. We've had to do it
twice. I mean, a small amount, 20 cents or whatever that difference was. Um, if we bring that in house and we start charging with the water bill, we'll obviously have collection issues and things like that that we don't we don't have today. Okay. >> And no matter what, it's everyone's
still paying the same amount to have their trash picked up, >> right? >> Right. Yeah. Okay. >> Across the board. >> Yeah. I don't think there's a need to to create another position to manage that. >> No, I Yeah.
>> Okay. Did you find that consultant? >> Yeah, I for you guys. do it so we can talk about it real quick. So the proposal in there was and I mean this is just um we have to do a resolution and then 120
to 180 days to do the study. So somewhere um and so you guys have the time frame but I mean it's all broken down but that's why we we came roughly 12 months depending on when you started when you do the resolution when you establish the ordinance but it
usually needs to be established before the taxes are collected. So um gave you the time frame but they just kind of gave ranges through there. So you could technically get implemented before the next tax season.
>> Yeah. >> If you if you hurry. Yeah. Okay. Any other questions or comments under operate a fiscally responsible government? Um I would say the future master facilities plan we'll talk about
that. >> Yep. >> Um so right now we uh engaged a consultant to do our future facilities master plan. The two focus or the main focus at the time when we originally
started this was looking at our our bridge road facility. Um we're jam-packed over there. If you guys haven't taken a tour, if you go in there, you know that um we're very full over there. We we house our public works and our utilities department, water
distribution over there. For the longest time, even before I got here, there was always a plan to move our water distribution team over there to that plant. And you know, we never had a admin for utilities. It was always the manager that that did that. But now,
obviously, we have a utility director. So we'd be distribution and admin would have a facility over there. So we engaged a consultant song and associates come in and do a space study for us. We have also included this building because we are uh at at the limits. We don't
have any major plan for you know staff expansion but we figured if we were doing it let's let's have that conversation about what the future looks like for staffing even here at at at Village Hall. So, um, part of that will come out that'll come out of it.
There'll be, uh, two parts. There's going to be one that, um, shows and, sorry, let me go back. We also, when we first started, we were talking about station 11 and what that would look like. Since then, we through the, uh, building fund and the special law enforcement fund, we were able to update
that building without really too much with the general fund. There's still a little bit of impact to general fund. So, we kind of cut that portion out of this space study and really the only two focuses will be what this building looks like in the future and what that cost may be cuz they'll give us a probable
cost and then what it will what it will look like to move our water distribution team out there. We have also talked about as a phase two approach what it would look like to move all of our public works team out there as well. one brand new building. If we ever wanted to
sell off the public works building because that has been a discussion at one point, we'd be able to have that ability to expand over there. Um that council's never given me that direction to do that. Um but there has been discussion. So the Sauna Associates has
put together a rendering of what it would look like to move both of those departments out there. Um and so that's what you guys will have hopefully in the next month or so. you got to be able to see the the draft of that and so there'll be a cost associated with both those right now the next step in this
process would be assuming that um you know council says hey we want to move forward with with starting the plans for water distribution facility out there at the water plant the plans the construction plans would be the next step we uh you know initiate with a
architect and so that's why we had estimate $400,000 utility plans on And that's just for that's not public works. >> That would not be public works the first step of it. And if we wanted to I mean obviously we'd
have to look at the cost but we base the cost off of you know what that building looks like you know $4 million building. Um you know if we look at you know it might be a$6 to8 million building. So you might be living $800,000 worth of plans, but some of that would have to come out of the general fund. That
$400,000 is just out of the utility fund because it's just utilities. >> What about for this building? >> Uh there's several there's several uh changes, future changes that they're making to it. We have not got an estimated cost on it because it's just
renovation, right? versus, you know, $400 a square foot, you know, 10,000 square ft type of thing. It was easier to just kind of throw up an estimate. That's why I put the little squiggly line there. I'm not We don't really know, but that's in the next month when we bring that to council, they're supposed to put together an estimated
probable cost for us. In my mind, it makes perfect sense to move distribution and public works to that location and then using that property and and selling it for development. Um
whether it's done this year and next year and 10 years from now, I don't know. But I do think it makes total sense to do that. Me too. >> I don't know what is the priority, but I do think it is a definitely a direction we should be headed. Yeah, agree. And I mean for this
building too because I, you know, I think at the time all these, you know, buildings were planned, it was the latest and greatest, you know, design techniques, but like this building alone drives me nuts with how much wasted space is in here. And um we could, you
know, probably have so many more people fit in this building too alone if it was laid out better. So I I think it's um I think we can use what we have and um just update it. And I think this is important to keep on the plan. >> 100% agreement.
>> Yeah, I'm with you. >> Both comments have been issued. >> I especially am in favor for including public works into that which I understand increases the price, but I think you got to look at that too.
It's a big cost. Any other questions on this one? >> Oh, yeah. Future revenue. >> Mhm. >> Okay, that's it for fiscally responsible government. Do we want to consider adding the mobility fee assessment or do
you want maybe Jeremy can Jay can call Keith and see if it's something we can even consider and get back to us before we're over. and I mean >> well the other thing is you can put it on your strategic plan um whether we can
do it legally or not I mean strategic plan it could be you know not all these we can accomplish in one year so this if it's important to you guys want to keep it on there um we prioritize it wherever it falls but if we can't do anything with it'll just stay on our strategic
plan until we can do something we'll continue to have those discussions so it's important let's let's do that and >> we can obviously vet that after it's prioritized and where it's at, will that what we can and can't do. >> Okay. May it might still be worth a call
to keep because I think it we might prioritize it differently if we know we can do it now or if we have to wait like if we have to wait it'll probably be you know we'll leave it on the bottom just so it's on the list so we don't lose sight but if it's something we can start now we might want to you know move it up in in urgency.
>> I'll do a coffee. >> Thank you. All right, moving on to protect community appearance, character, and identity. We want to talk about uh phase two and phase three of Remembrance Park first.
Jeremy, can you can you remind us I don't know if I received this information. Um, what was for phase phase one of Remembrance Park? Do we know what the usage is and what the annual maintenance costs are?
>> I mean, there's really no way to estimate or to put a number to the usage. I mean, it's used well. I mean, people are out there. We have no way of like, you know, counting the people unless I wanted to put a staff number out there counting, but it's used well. It's been received well um within the
community. I think there was even on the, you know, the survey that we did, I think it was like 60 or 70 people. I mean it was generally supported um in that survey that was very specific to remembrance park. Um so in generally it's wellreceived. I mean I don't I
don't I don't know how to quantify that for you other than you know my general vibe is people are receptive to it >> and the maintenance annual maintenance. >> Yeah. I mean that that obviously is a little bit of a moving target. A lot of
the hedges have died. I mean I know so Doug's looking at that. Um we we've taken on Doug's taken on a lot of that maintenance through public works. Um we you guys the council had supported another
half FTE last year with public works and so we've able to take that on. Um as time goes on, uh I think I think we're okay right now. Uh Doug hasn't asked for any additional support. Um,
you know, some of that may change a little bit with toquest a park and maintenance and all that, but we can typically manage it with the staff that we have. Um, >> so no additional requirements. >> What do we What did we budget originally? Was it 60,000
>> for the maintenance? Didn't we? We budgeted for it this year, didn't we? >> I'm sorry. It just it was just rolled into public works. There wasn't like a line item for Remembrance Park. So part of it was a half to FTE and then we did some tree maintenance. Um I think we
added like 15,000 or something for tree maintenance and just some sporadic cost in there. I think some utility cost. Um so nothing nothing major um that was like earthshattering that we can you know pull out or add more to and I don't
I don't foresee us it being a a big cost for us moving forward. There might be some tweaks that we make, but I think we're okay. >> So then even expanding, you think that public works will still be able to handle it in house? >> I do not think that we'll be able to do it if we expand phase two. I think we'll
have to take on some uh either additional staffing or additional maintenance costs. I think public works does an amazing job. Um, you know, taking on more parks, I think would be tough. I see
>> I was actually going to circle back to that. >> Let's finish talking about Remembrance Park. >> I see phase two and phase three as a benefit obviously to the the new development over there. Um the fact that they're willing to match um is a good
thing. And I think that um connectivity and use of the area to me it's always made sense to do that and and I think you have a little moment in time to get this done ahead of those eight lots coming in potentially could help
increase the valuation um to get a faster return on on the investment. >> Just thought there we go. >> I agree with that. Um, you know, it ties in with the mobility plan that we had,
the parks to ocean trail. Um, I think consistently we hear from residents about passive parks and and we did put this on the burner this year and I think they'll get it back in for the upcoming year. I think it really helped with any
mobility, some connectivity via sidewalks, you know, just all those different things to really in a different way to move people from one side of the village to the other. So I I am in support of keeping this on the front burner
both one and two, as Kyle just said, or two or three. I tend to go by to what I hear the most of and people who actually go to Remembrance Park and do that loop around of Riverside to Seabbrook, etc. The biggest thing I hear
specifically is when is the village going to open up that connective because there's it's all shrubbery and it's got a fence. And so I asked Jeremy out of the two phases cuz I very much have been sitting up here when we have to sometimes pivot or hold a phase off,
which phase allows even to open that up because I'm looking at specifically the main thing I hear um is when are we going to connect that so they can just have access? And then my next question Jeremy was what does that look like for
the government side? You know, it has to be a safe connectivity. So, what does that look like in the which phase? Because I understand it'll have to be ADA compliant and somewhat safe. And that's really where I sit is which from you guys which phase is going to allow
it to be opened and accessible in a safe way. And then >> phase two >> and then for me everything else, but yeah, we have the matching funds. But >> for phase three, >> I need Yeah, I would be in favor of opening it and creating a safe way to
travel to it, but not necessarily going full-blown development like with the little bridge and all that. >> So, I think I shared this with Miss Brandon, maybe maybe I did, maybe I didn't. I remember her telling me that um we
here a year and a half ago, we reached out to consultant. I don't think it was driven by council, but we asked what it would cost to just just open up the connectivity and they gave us a basically about half they gave us an OPC and it was like 500,000 of the $1.1
million create a path, trees, landscaping, fence around the area like make sure that the the tension and everything was stable over there. Um, so it's about half the cost to do like a phase of a phase so to speak. And I say
that cuz if if the opening of the connecting of the two wasn't there and we did something on the second half of that bar, that's really silly for someone to go to it and be like, "Hi, can't get through." So I I personally
would need it to be open to some degree. >> It's been a while since I've looked at this, but how the phase two to phase three connection, >> there is no sidewalk. sidewalk. >> Yeah, there would be a sidewalk that would go up Riverside on that side. Currently, there's no sidewalk there.
That would be like the future plans how we connect those that part. >> I mean, the most compelling obviously phase three, the most compelling reason is got 125 grand >> that may go away, you know, if we don't act on it quickly. But then you just
kind of get into this and what order do you do all this? And I agree if you can't connect at all, it's like almost what's the point? But yeah, if you don't do phase two, you don't do phase three. >> No. No. >> Which makes >> I mean, I disagree. I think phase three
still creates a nice open passive area for people that live on Riverside whether it connects or not. Like, I don't think phase three is a lost cause if phase two doesn't happen. I mean, I think all of us want all the phases to happen. But I still think phase three is a nice passive area for people to live on Riverside.
>> It is. I just think it's silly if we can't find a way to take that fence down. >> Even if you don't completely build out phase two, >> the one the actual that little right right where they in the middle. Oh, between one and >> like literally like you >> I literally go walk over that fence and look it every time I'm there. I was like
that's the one thing I hear about that is people say they don't say what are you doing the bridge thing and when are you doing this they say when are you opening that? >> Well, so it's all even if you could just create the connection for phase two. Yeah. I just want to go out there and be like
>> My only concern doing that is when you ever go to complete it phase two, are you going to be destroying what you put down >> and then redoing it again? >> Yeah, that's why I don't want to go bananas. >> We still have to do all the security cameras and stuff as part of that even
if we didn't complete phase two. Like we would still do that infrastructure as well. and how would that be impacted down the road if we um phase to phase and the matching funds for phase three
um is that strictly for construction >> as opposed to what >> well you said the design yeah the design is 50,000 >> J do you remember how we the discussion that we had how that was broken down but I'm pretty sure it was all construction
>> correct It is all all construction. And another last minute thing that got kind of thrown in this, I don't think Jeremy even knows yet, but they they have actually asked if they would be able to use the the retention they're supposed to be using on their site and put it
into the dry retention pond. So Allison and I went out there Friday and um think there may be an opportunity where we have enough capacity there and we could also get them to do some improvements to the the existing driver tension which is part of phase three also. So there might
be a scenario maybe where it's 125,000 and they they do some improvements and enhancements to the dry retention and so it could end up being a little bit more than that. >> But we're we're working on that aspect of it. Kind of a last minute thing.
>> Always a reset. >> Okay. I think it's like chive chive. Yeah. >> Gosh, that would be so cool. >> All right. Any other discussion on remembers park phases? >> Nope. Okay. Um, and I wanted to
ask council because we do have public in our chambers now. I was thinking because this is a lot to go over and to be respectful of um the time for public comment. Do we want to like com public comment after each goal? So, let's we can backtrack to fiscally responsible
government and then after we're done talking about the community appearance, character, and identify, we'll do public comment then. Okay, perfect. >> Council member Stone, you go with that? I >> was going to say let's do two. >> We have three. So, that's why Yeah,
>> much better. >> That did cross my mind and I flipped the page. I'm like, we only have three. So, okay. So, um, is there any public comment on operating a fiscally responsible government section? All right. All right. Moving on to the Questa Park
redevelopment. >> So, we've recently had discussions about this, so I don't know if there are questions, but I mean, ultimately, you know, we're doing we got an appropriation from the state of Florida in the amount of $340,000. we have a matching 53%
to the state's 47% to to do that. So, uh I think our total costs came in like 269,000 64,000 um that we're doing. So, at the end of the at the end of the day, hopefully in the next couple of months, we will have
90% construction plans for our master plan at Questa Park. Um and so we're kind of in the middle of that. the next part of it will be to see how we can break that into phases to see if you know there's an apple we can bite there. Um
and so just I guess it's how how high you guys prioritize it. >> Any additional discussion on Quest Park? Um well I know that we you know we're going we're
down the path of getting this hopefully donated to us and then um or deed it over to us and then you know we have the maintenance on that and we've got a plan that we had lengthy discussion on last week. Um I I would be you know I looking at the
public comment you there's a lot of things that had to do that were on the south part of the park. um the splash pad and you know the additional pickle the pickle ball and kind of relocating some things. So I still think if we're gonna to for me to
really jump on board with this and carry this flag um I think we really need to have some type of phasing at this point because I I think that I understand the mobilization cost of doing things in phases. Um, but I think the the baseball
fields uh at this time are things that I think that we could hold off on. I think more people commented on the south end of the park and the splash pads and the playground and things like that. So, I would like to see some type of phasing and with understanding the cost of that.
I just think putting lights on a field that might just get used 4 hours a day, four months of 5 months a year, whereas a splash pad will be used every single day. The playground will be used every single day during the day. I'd think we can get more public use and public
benefit out of phasing it focusing on the south end of the park. Would you include the uh the multi-purpose field in that south end or is that phasing? Okay, >> I don't disagree. I mean, I I know there's probably a lot of people would love to see that baseball diamond, but
it's a it's a big chunk of the cost. I mean, the lights alone, >> I assume we we'd be putting lights on the multi-purpose field, too, though. >> That would be the plan. Yeah. >> There's to me, and I don't want to take away from the baseball area. I agree with what Rick was saying, is it, you
know, it's just a matter of what we can afford and at what time really. I just think the full plan is I if the state wanted to invest the time and the resources they would have done that. So now this is going to fall on us and and
I I don't see that money being available. Um you know we've had a discussion this morning about advant property taxes and what happens if you I think 8 to9 million and if it's
phased 11 to 12 million I don't know how we get that money. I think we're developing a plan that we ultimately can't execute and that's what concerns me um about doing everything with but it makes sense if you're going to put if you're going to stick with the fields
and to light it all at the same time because of that mobilization and the cost and um but I I just don't see the I know that those fields are being used now I think across practices on the outfield um I believe and there are if you look at the monthly stats and the
manager report, you know, there are usage, people are permitting it, using those fields for other things. Uh, but I think that's what the multi-purpose field would be for. So, I I just think that we're I I don't see how we can find the funding necessary to execute the
complete park plan. That's just my continues to be my big concern. >> Are we giving up on the idea that the state's going to add money to the park? >> Um, no. just we we you know it took us a year to get the the plan money allocated
to us >> and then this year there was no there was no cost whatsoever so it was cost neutral uh and I can see that's why it was appetizing and this has received all the support I think when it comes down to the the funding I think we're going to be we're I think we're going to run
into this is just my what I personally know I have not had a conversation with anybody about it but I think it's going to be really hard to find 8 to12 million mistake But I do think I mean in my opinion this is the most exciting and impact one of
the most impactful things that we're you know have the opportunity to even consider. So, I am fully in favor of doing, you know, moving forward with something. I but I agree without understanding, you know, how it gets paid for, which maybe I'm I hate to say you don't have to
think about that now because you certainly do, but um it's hard to like fully understand what we can and can't do, but I think this is as as exciting as it gets for our village. I mean, I think we have to aggressively
um consider and and figure out how to fund it. Um I if we f I'm not against phasing. I mean, depending on how much that does increase the cost, but I'll stand with what I said last time is I would almost focus on the field and the
volleyball courts first because we don't really have those amenities nearby or we already have a really nice, you know, playground and park nearby. I hear from so many people from the community that they just can't wait until these fields are improved and like people can't even find space to play volleyball for youth
sports. Um the they're they're much needed for our youth. Much needed. I mean they're they're partnering with whoever they can right now. Schools and they're just so desperate to find the space. Um and you know this will really help our our businesses too. I mean you
you're you know people will be coming in this park lot more than they do now. they'll be more inclined to eat lunch in Dquesta, right? I mean, there's a lot of benefits and you know, we've been advocating for this park and our messaging has been for the recreational aspects as well. So, I think to not
focus on that, you know, we seem, you know, disingenuine with our lobbying and advocating to date on this as well. Um, you know, we put together this great plan with our community and I think, you know, we deserve to to, you know, work
our hardest and yes, funding is going to be a challenge, but um I think we owe it to the community to really focus on it and figure out how we can get it done. I'd be interested, Jeremy, you know, Jupiter just had a huge um
parks rejuvenation, if you will. They were redoing a bunch of their parks. I mean, did they how did they pay for it? Do they have enough in reserves? >> They have money in reserves from what I understand. >> Again, which is another reason we building up reserves is people be able to pay for stuff like this. I think I said this last time, maybe say we pay
for half and then have to do a loan or go off for bond or whatever the case may be. You know, having those money in reserves. Um, this is why to be able to pull off projects like this that are long overdue in our community. And, you know, we're going to have to prioritize. Is this more important than
Remembrance Park? And those are both going to be large capital costs. >> So I would be in I'd be open to looking at phases um just because we have to be realistic of how we would start this project. I personally want to stick to
the master plan that was vetted through the public and I know that was even a couple years ago now. So if anything major would have to change, I would I don't want to go through a full shred again, but it would have to be very transparent.
Lights, I not die hard on lights cuz there are other fields in the county that don't have lights and they do get use. Um, but I don't know what that looks like phase wise if they have to be done maybe first because of the construction and this and
that. So again, I can't really determine if I'm in favor of lights first or not because I would need to see construction phasing. So that way, like it was mentioned for me, if we don't do something, then go back up and tear it back up. I know for a fact that when I first came
on, that was one of the things that people asked is why isn't that part not cleaned up? Why is it not being used? I know I was an advocate for that, but then I came in, I learned a lot of logistics. We didn't own it. it's in another county. There's so we found out this is very layered. So, it's exciting
to see that while we can't pay for it right now, we are trying to attempt to solve the one biggest hurdle. We don't own it. So, that hurdle is hopefully coming to a solution soon. >> I say that was a big hurdle we heard
from public. It was either yes, do something or no, we don't own it. So again, we've been trying to tackle some of the hurdles over the past few years, looking for funding. I think depending on how that hurdle develops, we can move forward with our next aggressiveness.
Like you're talking about, mayor, how do you find funding? Um I've said it before a couple years ago, and I know it can kind of go either be love or disliked. Sometimes you have to do something because nobody else is going to do it. And it's been decades for that park to
be sitting there. And so at some point someone's going to have to do something and it might just it might have to be us because Martin County is not going to do anything. The state hasn't really wanted to do anything. So someone's going to have to do something otherwise it's going to sit there for decades. So I don't know where it's going to rank today cuz we do have to rank these. But
I'm not fully against it. It just needs to be kind of prioritized somewhere in here on a certain level. But I'm still in favor even 10 years down the road. still in favor of looking at some something doing to that park so it doesn't sit there for another couple decades dilapidated such a waste of
space >> for me trying to decide what to prioritize more quest park or remembrance >> I always think it's important to maintain what you already have >> y >> and so we already have this so to me >> this hasn't been a priority and it
should be I think it takes leadership and foresight to see what is the needed >> and make this the priority Yeah. And I I I understand where residents are coming from on like you don't own it. Why put money into it? But when you're looking at, let's just say
worst case scenario, I don't think this is going to happen. Knock on whatever. What do you want to? But >> get get out. >> If it did, the term on this thing is so long. Like why wouldn't you still invest it, you know? Like it's >> by the time the term of the lease is over, you know, expires,
>> you get your money back. >> Yeah. Yeah. You got to redo it all anyway. Uh, I get just like the philosophical side of why invest in something you don't own, but I I to me I when you have it, what is it 50 what's the term? >> 50 years. I think we have like Yeah, we
just renewed it a couple years ago. So, >> I mean, I'd love to say that in 50 years everything we did to it was going to still be great, but it won't be. >> Playgrounds like I feel like they completely rethink how playgrounds should be laid out every like five years. So, um, anyway, I to me this is
our one of my one of the highest priorities for me just because I I think we have such a unique opportunity with the fact that we've most in all likelihood this will get handed over to us. We just inherited, if you will, a
significant asset that we now can really do something special with it. So, that's where I sit. I think Remembrance Park is super important, too. But I think I I I'm with Kyle like it's there to prove it. It's also something we don't have
anything like this. You know, this would be the one of a kind. Like we have playgrounds, we have all that stuff. Um so I'd probably put this ahead of remembrance. >> And I I've said this since I've been on
council. That's why um I really had a different mindset about the park and who pays for it even if we don't own it because whether we do it or the state does it, the taxpayers are paying for it regardless, right? We pay taxes to the state, too. So, I've always felt like we're paying for it regardless. You
know, all the taxpayers are. >> Um so, it's really my that's been my mindset through this whole process. And like you said, by the time the term's up, you got your money's worth regardless. And I, you know, you walk around anywhere in Quest now, there are just so
many young like really young there's always been young families here, but there's still >> I mean there's just so much need for this part. >> I've seen a bunch of >> senior guys. >> Yeah. >> Out outside play. >> Yeah, there you go. Yeah, the senior softball league is >> Oh, that's awesome. >> Isn't there a soccer one, too?
>> Oh, yes. >> They play there or play out there. But >> they love to come here. >> You think the young ones? I agree with that. Yeah, that's our our rec center is probably used by more seniors than it is. Yeah, >> I love that.
>> Okay, any other discussion on this item? Moving on to beautifification of old Dixie. Talked about this at our last workshop as well. >> I think this is a health, safety, and well-being of our residents issue. Well, it's beautifully kit. I mean, this is
what we're talking about. what we just the turn in the village the turn lane that's part of it okay that's what I thought um so I I think that's a healthseeking well-being issue I mean that's one of the most dangerous dangerous corners per capita and
probably be in northern Palm Beach County um it's used by residents and non-residents alike but I I and I know this is a heavy lift you know almost a half a million dollars but um I think this is something that needs to be done for the again the health the safety and
the wellbeing of the residents and this is the lens that I viewing this thing and it's a barren stretch that doesn't look anything else like um the village of Tqua and I believe it was Kyle that made mention what can we do on linear
park as well to to jazz that up but um this to me I think is something that is really something very critical for us again from a health safety and wellbeing standpoint >> so there might be there might be two initiatives built into this just with what you just said because there there
is some safety things. What you guys just approved doesn't necessarily depends on how we go but you know the the plan that our consultants put together um had a cross this is Village Boulevard had a crosswalk over there and
eliminated the right turn lane. It was all grass, right? Um the the plan that we just put together was going to be more just the medians. wasn't necessarily going to um attack that. Um but the other part what you're talking
about is like bridge road. So So there might be two initiatives in here like the safety of our gateways versus uh the aesthetics of it. If you guys want to lean together, you can. And just all that's important. Let's continue to move forward with little bites of those apples. Um but you know, some of those
safety improvements are going to have to be Palm Beach County like Bridge Road. We that plan you guys just approved didn't really have much anything on Bridge Road. It was going to be everything north of Toquesta Drive all the way through Village Boulevard for
like four four medians. And so maybe there's two initiatives there if that's you know and we're always very conscious of the safety part. We've been really pushing Palm Beach County that safety part. Um but it's really at their we keep pushing if that's the initiative.
Um >> the safety improvements. Uh, isn't the county engineer coming to meet with us at our next workshop? >> Yes, >> I got word on Friday that they are postponing coming. >> That must be my question was because I know we looked at those medians, but that right turn lane elimination has not
been presented to us publicly yet, >> right? >> Why are they postponing? >> I have to go. I we talked about I got word Friday. I didn't hear all the details of it. So, um, but I think I think they're going to they're going to look at some different things. I do know
that that's getting repaved, uh, next month. I believe they're going to start repaving it. So, they won't have any of those improvements in there. >> Yeah. Where they where would they start? Where do they start to repave? >> Do they do you know yet? >> I don't think I think the county is
going to approve it in the next week or two and then then we'll get theote for it. And then the gateway aspect of this. Are we talking about like US1 to Questa Drive and are we talking about like the actual entries? >> Yeah. So you think of the US one. I know Mr. Stone used to always say when you
come over the bridge, what does Questa look like? And you know like how do you know you're into Questa that? And so if you come in from the other side, what does that look like? You come in on County Line Road, what does that look like? And so just pick those entryways. That's the gateways that we talk about.
>> Yeah. like five or six of them that you talking about or six seven >> stop >> for the the safety measures on bridge and village on old Dixie at bridge and village the county will pay for those >> old Dixie and village
>> the safety improvements cuz I does that need to be part of this discussion or is that a county >> so >> county initiative county would cover that >> don't know cuz they wanted to do the delineators as part of a pilot program to see if that would help. And so for us
to go in there and say we want it or we don't. I don't know they'll do it at this point. We we it just took a pivot. So I'm not I'm not 100% sure what that looks like. But typically if it's a safety improvement and it's justified and warranted, the county will do it. If
if it but at this point they haven't said it's warranted. So it's just us saying you need to do something. Um, and so if we if they say it's not warranted, the only way it gets done is by us hiring an engineer says it is warranted and then we will do it because they're saying the county engineers are saying
it's not warranted at this point. >> I mean, if the county doesn't end up doing it, I would wrap it up into the old Dixie improvements and and do everything at the same time. >> Can we do that ourselves? >> Sure. If uh if we can get if in our planning stage, if we can get a traffic
engineer that says that, you know, this is what we want to do. Hey, county, let's can we do it? And ultimately, the county will have to sign off on it. So, I believe we could, but the county is going to have to sign off on it. >> I mean, I guess if there I mean, we we've had fatalities at one of those intersections. And from a safety
standpoint, if it's needed, I feel like the county has got to be obligated. >> Yeah. Like bridge, right? I mean, there's >> the bridge. That's that's the most dangerous one. Um, I know there's been a bug accidents at the Village Boulevard in Old Dixie, but I think the bridge in Old Dixie is the most critical one.
Correct. >> That's the That's the one we've had the most accidents at. I think you can almost make multiple priorities here in the aspect of north of Tquesta Drive, south of Toquesta Drive, medians,
safe public and safety aspect of it. But then I also think you can also throw on more long-term linear park. >> The fact that you got to think about that's going to be pretty expensive to rip everything out, put put something else back in there. But I would think that's something to throw it out there and keep it on the on the list. And then
gateways are kind of their own least. Yeah, >> when we talked about gateways before, there's not a lot of room to them. Remember to talk about that? >> It was like f issues too. Just kind of linear park. We we knock so much. >> Making sure everyone here remembers that. Like I remember it was just very
limited of what we could do cuz I think at one point the the entrance to Tquesta that's on or by the lighthouse park that land that goes up that wasn't even us. That's the BLM. >> That's part of us.
>> Yeah. Well, it depends on what you're talking if it's if we're just talking about like enhancing or redoing the signage, you know, right where it currently is. That's one thing. I also don't know like there is something that's part of our character a little bit of those old I
mean, I remember growing up here, the signs have always been the signs, >> which is great. >> Yeah. So, I don't even know how residents would want to improve that. >> Yeah, >> they're maintained well. >> Yeah. Very nice. They have a classic, but you know, depends on what you're trying to accomplish really.
>> Yeah. I mean, for beautifification of old Dixie, safety improvements aside, I would really really want the county to to handle those. Um, considering we got an agreement over the finish line and we are getting some partial funding from the county and it's
been on our our list for a long time. Um, I think I think it's important to proceed with that. And I, you know, we always talk about how special our community is and having, you know, a sense of place when you arrive. And I think about on Old Dixie, I mean, even
with, you know, maybe we don't care about the Bright Line passengers, but even as they're running through, you know, how many times does the Bright Line pass through here? And like, it's just that ugly barren stretch, right? Even from that, you know, standpoint, aesthetically, it's creating, you know, a sense of sense of place and like, oh,
we're we're passing through. We've arrived somewhere special, you know, >> that'd be perfect. Let's do that. >> Just do that. >> So, yeah, our >> that was from is this the mobility? >> Yeah, this is from the mobility plan, but I think they probably pulled some of it from our Treasure Coast plan a little
bit, too, because I think there was some some drawings in there. But um so what right there if you see in that like that design calls for that green space on the we'll say at the right side but I think it's west um which eliminates the right turn lane and then it puts a crosswalk
across there and obviously put some like you know flashers and some different stuff um that is not what originally we the plan I mean we can always include it in Kinley Horn's stuff. We just sent them the medians and they they were going to design the medians with, you
know, plantings and whatnot in there. Um, we can go ahead and have them do that design. Um, and then we can submit that as part of what we want to do with the medians in the future. >> So, you're taking it down to a one lane road, one lane each way,
>> except coming from north. >> I think the I don't personally like the turning lane coming from the north going south sometimes. I don't know from a from a pulling out in front of the car turning, you might not catch the one going by it >> from a speed limit. I mean, what's 40
miles per hour there, right? I mean, would we have to look? There's a lot that could go into reducing a lane. And I mean, I I wasn't even on council during the US one lane reductions. And I to this day still get complaints from people. So, keep that in mind as well. Again, we don't want Old Dixie to be a,
you know, highway that people are speeding down. But, um, I think there's there's >> people going >> a lot more to consider if we're if we're going to talk about >> correct >> getting rid of lanes. I I personally don't think we should talk about getting rid of lanes. I think the medians will
be a nice improvement with the lanes as is and the safety improvements. Um, I think naturally changes on those medians should slow down traffic a little bit. Mhm. >> So, I'm disappointed to hear that they they postpone because I was excited for the public to hear their concept of that
cuz I I have a feeling I know which way it's going to go. Um I've spoken to Jeremy about this and even in the past we've talked we've looked at this. I think we even did a study at how much it would do to do lights there or if it was a flashing light or a stop sign. So,
this is not new coming to us the safety concerns. when I sit out there and watch. I think people just need to relax. They need to wait. Um, so I'm not that's not us for this. When we're talking about this beautifification, I think this intersection needs some
love. Um, when we looked at the medians again, I mentioned the lights cuz if they're dark, someone's going to turn left and possibly hit it. I think if we start maintenancing that intersection and then
see how it goes because it is very open and it's very dark and it's very bland. Even the linage out there is a little subpar. >> But just just for clear record, that's Palm Beach County. >> I know this county. I'm not knocking us. I'm just >> Doug and his team do a great job. So
>> yes, Doug and your team, I'm not knocking you. just because this is a county road and you know we're kind of waiting on them and it's going to be us navigating the information basically to the people because the county is not going to probably do it. So again, I put
that on us like what communicating to our residents what the county is thinking, but I'm waiting for them to kind of come and present us officially what they were thinking for that intersection, a village in Old Dixie. I mean that Yeah. So on this ranking, I
mean that title, like Mr. Stone said, has a lot wrapped in it. Well, I think we keep the safety improvements off or in like it depends. Like I said, I I would keep pushing the county. They apparently
did offer to do something. I don't I we don't know what's going on as of now, but um I'd rather keep marching down that road and see what we can get them to do and then handle our beautifification like proceed with the beautifification separate. But pending what happens with the county, I think we
would then be I don't want to say forced, but maybe more inclined to then wrap up safety improvements to the um >> so our part the parts that we have involvement on and then their parts too. So one whole
package >> if we if needed. Yeah. if the county doesn't provide the safety improvements >> as we talk about aesthetics something just for more discussion. Uh what is generally the thought
temperature of the council for county line road in the you know we've had discussions with the county um of improving adding some trees minimal landscaping but add some trees to county line road you know our preliminary
conversations they might have had some money to uh to help and they haven't said no yet they provided us some generic drawings that you know ran the length from all the way from US1 all the way to Old Dixie. It was going to be
pretty expensive. And so we're we're we're taming it down. And they're supposed to be giving us some new pictures or new drawings of it of basically like 20 ft from from the intersection of Old Dixie and um Old
Dixie. 20 ft that goes down that that rideway and then 20 ft on each side of the park entrance and then 20 ft from US1 just to try to minimalize it a little bit and help with some cost but from a council standpoint we haven't really talked about it other than few
years back we said it sure would be nice to have that beautified and so um we Jay had a contact over there and reached out we started having that discussion again we well I say again we never really had it with the county they weren't very interested then I guess some new staff,
new contacts, but they are interested in partnering with us because they've had they've had a couple residents complain about, you know, need to be beautified there. That's, you know, that's obviously the Martin County side. So, they they have some interest. We have some interest. Um, but I guess where's
the where's the council sit on uh that as a project if we had to spend our money to do it? >> I think it's important. I I think old Dixie probably needs to love a little
more, but I hadn't even really thought about to be honest. Um I'm not against adding it. I mean I think um beautifification there especially in light of the Dquesta Park efforts like
maybe it's well depending on what any kind of partnership we can work out with Martin County that would be nice to you know do the park beautify county line road and I mean think about it going the um cemetery there was gorgeous right I mean it's so beautiful trees and
like just really making that whole stretch um a lot more aesthetically pleasing with some shade trees. I know. I mean, I've walked and ran bikes down the sidewalk. It's pretty um there's not many trees. It's in pretty hot. >> Well, there's also at some point, who
knows what's it what it will be or when it will be, but there's a very high chance of the old rude nursery getting developed, you know, and >> is it submitted? >> I don't know. >> Yes.
>> Review. Okay. So, you know, then that's going to look better there. And off-site improvements we can >> I don't know. >> Can we can we separate beautifification, old Dixie? And we'll add county line
beautifification on your list just so you guys can tell us what your priority is there and it if it even gets a point or even a a nod in that direction. >> And are we adding US1 gateways and linear park again? Both of those have been on this in the past. Was there
issues with FO2? >> Not really. Uh we we were seeking this was like 3 four years ago. We were seeking up to $100,000 grant to beautify it. Uh but we would have to it was like a 6040 grant or something like that and
council decided not to pursue it because we didn't want to we didn't want to match it at that point. So we there is a grant a beautifification grant at least they did have it. I I don't know if they still have it. Um but council decided not to pursue that at the time.
Part of it was uh there was some design or some consideration in front of the BLM property and like putting some irrigation there changing some of the medians and at the time we just decided we that wasn't a high priority for the for the village.
>> Yeah. For me I think county line and old Dixie are more of a priority. I don't think the US1 gateways look that bad. Yes, they could anything could be better at the end of the day, but >> for me, the inside's more local to quest the people anyways than people passing
through. Um, so I usually personally prioritize what is being used by the actual local taxpayers first because most people take that back road almost daily in that area.
So we won't add US1 gateways. What about linear park >> by itself? Like add it by itself. Are you asking if we >> unless Well, because right now it's not really I think when we're talking about beautifification of Old Dixie, we're talking about the agreement we just
Okay. >> executed with the county. What were the the issues with with Linear Park was obviously the lease, but then also um just from a cost standpoint, it's going to cost a lot because the ground's really >> Yeah. It's not like we just go up there
and like till up. I mean, we're going to have to really get some like serious excavation in there because it's all like rock and asphalt like through there where we were talking about starting like across from Village Boulevard and then working our way filling the gaps like it was it was going to be pretty
significant as far as um the cost for that. And so at that time we kind of pivoted to going back and and looking at these medians um because I mean you are going to have to work with two different entities with with old Dixie. You're not you're going
to have to get county approval. You got you also have FEC and actually three because then all most of those plantings are all going to be under FPL rightway or easements there because the power lines are all right there. So working with three different entities, it's, you
know, it was significant. So we try to look for an easier path of resistance, which is what we came back to. But if that's a priority, we can do it. It's just, it's going to be a lot more costly to do that. I think it should be out there listed.
But back to my original priority, take care of what we own first. And I don't see that we own it yet. So, but I do think it should be on the list that we continue to work on it, try to work with county, continue to work with whoever, >> especially pushing especially all this other stuff is hopefully happening. >> We can put that on the list if you want.
FCC rightway, add that one. So, was county line beautifification FC right away. The other portion that pivoted is that and this happened statewide um FEC went up like 25% on all municipal leases. So like our cost I think it was
like 14,000. We went up 25%. They went across the board and >> we have no recourse. Like they >> they own the land. >> They can go they own the land. They can charge whatever they want. They said it was undervalued for all municipalities. So >> charge all municipalities rent across over.
>> I mean I knew that. I didn't know they increase 25%. >> Yeah. There's a >> but then we're stuck because we've made some improvements out there. If we decide that we don't want to have that lease anymore, we still have to have the crossing lease over the railroad u
because we have fiber and everything else. But if we decide not to lease the the linear park uh linear trail park, um we have to take it back to its original condition. I mean, we need to go take out the trail and you know, take out all the plantings and you know, then you're
going to have a situation where they're not going to upkeep it. So, it's we're stuck in kind of a rock and a hard place with that with that linear trail. And, you know, it's a great thing to the community. So, I'm not taking away from that. Um, I think we do a good job of maintaining, but like trying to add to
it, it comes with challenges. Ours. >> All right. Moving on to tree planting efforts. Uh so we um not much to add to that. We we did phase one. I think we planted like 69 60 63 trees um out there in
phase one a year year and a half ago. Always the plan phase two was going to be after we did toquest a drive water man replacement. We fill in some additional gaps um and where you know we thought we needed some trees. Um, we use
$75,000 from infrastructure sir tax to cover that first phase. If we are moving forward with phase two, know that it'll have to come from general fund. So, wherever that lines on your guys' priorities, budget accordingly.
>> Any comments or questions on this one? >> I was going to somewhat jokingly say, can we add that to an advaloran kind of a nonadvalorum? concept >> tree planting. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> None is gonna plant a tree in front of everybody's house.
>> That'd be nice. >> I love it. >> And I say it jokingly. I still don't know if you can do it. So I I'm going to say that jokingly. >> I think it's I think it's such a such a huge value to our residents, to the ambiance, to to the Yeah. animals, everything.
>> More trees the better. All I know is if we don't have trees near the sidewalks, no one's going to walk the sidewalks. It's going to be too hot. So, got to find a way, in my opinion, to make it. I know the roots are always an issue, but it's so handin
hand for me. It's too hot without trees and then no one's going to go outside. I think I mean it's when it comes to considering the funding and the next two items kind of like what council member Brandon's been saying you know everyone really benefits from that those tree
planting efforts right everyone drives down the streets and just gets to see the beauty of it and then um you know many of us I think no matter where we live at some point you might be riding your bike or walking down that down you know all of Dquesta Drive so I think that really benefits all the community
>> yeah 100% Any other comments? >> All right. Mangrove planting m matching grant. >> Where can I go buy a m mangrove? Right. >> Great question, Kyle. I don't know the answer. Jay, you you're the environmentalist or closest to the
environmental seeds. Yeah, I was say you could technically just when you put seeds in dirt in the sand, they are supposed to grow. >> Well, doesn't m >> that I was just going to bring that up. I thought they had like you know about that organization. Do you have anything
>> like mangrove farm? >> Yeah, they they've been growing some themselves and then trying to find places to plant it. There's another group um it's actually a lady that we partner with for the vertical oyster garden, the echo scouts. Um, she's growing some in her front yard that she
wants to like hand out to people. Um, but I'm not really sure where else you can get them from. I think you can get them from nurseries. >> I've potted one. >> It's growing. It's crazy. >> You just got to be patient. >> You literally got like one of the seeds that you found
on the farm. I think >> I don't know what they do with them after that. I don't even know if they still have it. It was kind of before co time. They used to have the actual tanks where they would grow the mangroves as a farm. And again, I don't know where they're at. I just remember seeing them. >> Of course. >> So, Jay, was this vetted through the EAC
on exactly what they you know, this budget would go toward? How how was it going to be if this is prioritized as a high priority? How do we how do we distribute this money? Like what are we budgeting for? >> So, their idea was to to do a few pilot projects, right? So, we adopted the
Living Shorelines code, but it doesn't require people to put mangroves in, right? It's only needed when they're redeveloping or or redoing their docks. So, they wanted to do more of a proactive approach where they would encourage people to do it. And they wanted it to to kind of start with like
a showcase where we pick one or two one or two people to volunteer. um we'd have to create a process for it, but then would um kind of create a some show showcase properties and then we'd be able to use those and say, "Hey, look, this is what we did here on these two
properties. We you know, this is what how much it cost. This is how it was designed and we'd like to encourage other people to follow their lead and and kind of do what they did." Are there I think this is a a noble
initiative but are is it maybe I mean we up here have just thought of several organizations that can help with this or you can even do it yourself. Is there maybe maybe pivot this initiative to more offormational and educating our on
how they can grow mangroves organizations local organizations that they can buy mangros from. So kind of pivoting that so we're not having to spend the funds on it since the resources might already be out there in the community. >> Absolutely. Absolutely. If if council um thinks that that's a more appropriate
use of of staff time and and resources, we could we could pivot that way and kind of partner with with some of these organizations. There's so many environmental groups out there, it's almost hard to keep up with them. Um we have another new one, Wild Blue Sea. If you've seen them, they they put their mangroves in front of like stores. I
think we got them like Danny K's talking about. >> So, there's a lot of different groups out there that we're kind of having these partnerships form with. Um, the vertical oyster garden thing that we're doing, you know, it's a really low low cost type of thing, high bang for your buck. So, we could probably kind of
pivot and and do more of a a low cost or a no cost educational thing partner with some of these nonprofits. For sure. >> What's council think about that? Yeah, I I it it clearly is is a it's a
worthy cause. I just don't know where I don't think it ranks up into some place where where we're trying to find dollars. Um but I do an area like on the northeast shore of the Tquesta bridge where there's a storm water pipe that comes out. You know, there's always that
to me seems to me there with with the tide you could plant some of those and it could really improve that corner. that be something that we could do with maybe with a MAGN or one of these other or one of the other groups or something at like say low cost or no cost, but um
I I I just don't I don't think it rises and and it's a limited number of people that this benefits as well. I mean, it benefits all of us. I don't want to I'm not trying to sound that way, but um it really benefits the people that live on the water when it comes to shoreline shoreline stabilization. Um, so I would
like to see us I'm in favor of kind of redirecting that money somewhere else. >> And and one thing that we struggle with kind of internally is is you're providing a financial incentive to people who own waterfront properties who conceivably can afford these things themselves, >> right? So
>> um that's kind of an internal struggle we had, but we want to find a way to encourage it. So to your point, maybe it's just, you know, partnering with people and and making it educational. I' I'd be curious how many properties in the village of Questa actually do not
have a seaw wall that would utilize. >> It's not that many when we have a map and it's like or it's highlighted. Yeah, it's not many. >> I wish I could know the exact number. I think it's close to 25%
maybe even lower. >> But you can do mangroves off the sele if they're sand. >> If they're sand. Yeah. >> Well, that was part of the the one main >> um shoreline ordinance we did because at the end of the day it um enhances the
longevity of your seaw wall. So that and those are expensive to replace. >> For me, for me, this is a bigger social issue because so many people are not from Florida. So they kind of look at mangroves as a nuisance or they're
blocking my view. they, you know, low tide. For me, it's just a huge social society issue. That's really hard to catch up on because most statistically most people living in these properties aren't from here or they don't live
there all year and they can care less. Like, so for me, it's I don't think it's something we can just jump out and make such a humongous difference of changing how people think, but constant education. I think sometimes every now and then I come across it's usually from like Mang or someone else a really good
educational video where they're physically showing the benefits of those mangroves in the water. Um, I think when we get, not that I want to, but if we ever get one, someone needs to be brave enough to kind of go video
how that impacts in a positive way as nature is being angry. And I think that's our next step as a society to kind of re just keep pushing that out and trying to keep people understanding the Florida lifestyle and our our environment. It's like people who build
on the small. Why is there an alligator? Well, that that's kind of how I see it. I don't think it's anything we can do to fix this problem, but just constantly support and try to educate. >> Yeah. And there's I mean there's you can already find all that online. There are
videos examples and the wave energy and all that. So yeah, maybe more it's just that campaign of education and local resources to partner with and Okay. So I don't know. I mean, we can just I don't have to remove it. We would
just vote no on that. Or >> does that need that doesn't really need to be on our initiatives and we'll just have >> AC will work on that or >> I don't mind if it stays there. I just figured we could rank it. It might not rank cuz it does happen on here. No, >> right. >> Yeah, it's on there now. I think if it
doesn't get any points then it can be removed from >> Yeah, that's you leave them all in there. Let everybody have a shot at, you know, seeing if it's important. >> Yeah. Not that it's not important, but >> okay. The hazardous materials amnesty day,
>> right? >> Yeah. So, the cost of those are are pretty expensive. I think it ends up I think it ends up being well well more than $10,000 to actually hold the event. I think it's more like 30 or 40,000. So, that's why we kind of came up with this idea of just offering rebates to people
that do it, right? It's the same thing happens. You just you drive to SWA yourself and >> super easy to do. By the way, I didn't realize how easy >> I I picture you have to talk to a human. You just >> get out and Yeah. And >> it's kind of like what you know the
police department was just doing with the with the ice cream thing with the bike helmets. Like even if we just did a thing like hey 5050 $25 gift certificates to local to Quest restaurants for the first 50 people that do this. >> And it just it's a it's a way to grab people to see that they can do it. And
so ideally, you know, you end up getting 250 people to do it. Um, and that I think would be way more way way less expensive and probably just as impactful. >> Is are we aware and I'm sorry if I miss this, but are we aware of like an issue that we're
are we >> what are we trying to fix? >> Are we just trying to get ahead of something here? Yeah, it's it's not there isn't a known issue, but our environmental committee was looking kind of holistically at what we can do to improve water quality, what we can do to improve um we're looking at construction
sites, how to improve the construction site maintenance. Um just due to complaints related to that and kind of while we were looking at that, one of the things that came up was, you know, that so many people do just kind of dump things into the into the water. They have no idea where it goes. So, the idea
of creating a hazardous waste um collection day was a way to to kind of also tell people like, hey, what you put in the water gets into the locks of Hatchee. Um and so then they wanted to have a hazardous waste rebate or collection day and then we realized very
cost prohibitive and that's where we kind of pivoted to this rebate idea. Would the EAC be willing to go to the location and look at um driver's license to see who's from the village?
>> I actually cuz I came up the idea, I was like, I'll I'll do it. So, I I would personally just go sit there for a day and and check people have the gift cards there. Um or and I'm sure we have a few EC members that would go as well. So, we Yeah, we can we can do it that way. I think that's easier than having people
come back with a receipt, right? Pick >> a Saturday. Yeah. And I I mean, if we're going to do it, I love that. I think the creativity around local restaurants or wherever you do it, I think that's if we're going to do it, I think that's very cool.
>> I'm neutral. >> I'm sorry. I just can't picture Jay sitting there on a Saturday. I just I have no reaction but to laugh. I'm sorry. I mean, thank you for being willing to sit there on a Saturday. We I'm sure we I won't sit there for eight hours, but we could rotate, you know,
two hour shifts. I think Jeremy Jeremy said he's great. >> Jeremy said he'd love to do 4 hours. >> I'll I'll take two hours. >> What batteries he included as Yeah, I think there's batteries and paint. >> Yeah, it's paint.
>> So, I'm an advocate for it. I just after we I knew after the EAC kind of talked through it, I just started to think, you know, though when I look at our area, not sure because then I go I'm just looking at um like yard guys. How many people around here actually use yard guys and not really mow the yard themselves? Who changes their oil at
home anymore? Like I you know I had to back in the '9s and you had to contain it safely and then you know disperse of it safely. So, I I had a hard time measuring how much hazard waste our area would even have. >> This would be a good way to find out.
>> So, thinking that if we were to just attempt like a one Saturday to see how it goes, >> I would think we'd have to put out some sort of information to almost educate people what we're talking about. obviously hazardous batteries, spray spray paint cans,
>> um cleaners that are old because I know there was, you know, a really old cleaner that got buried in my garage and then we found it. So, just maybe some education of what we're even looking for >> because not everyone when I hear hazardous, I'm thinking construction stuff. >> Yeah. I guess you said this was tied to
what's going on in the Lockahhatche River. I'm really confused. >> So, so public flogging. >> Yeah. So, so, so when people um you know, if you have if you have like a paint bucket and you you dump the paint bucket out, it it it's going into the the water system
>> and we think people are doing that. >> I can see some people >> it's it's I think it's more construction people um working on construction projects apparently. Um but yeah, I think there's a little bit of it. I think if you go in most garages, I mean, I can think of at least
I have old paint I have and I just let it sit there cuz until I'm going to S SWA, I think everybody there's a lot of stuff that falls in this category that we just sit on >> or like an old pro battery. But that's why I asked what is it? So that way we're very clear to tell them, do you
have these like in your garage or house? You know, on this Saturday we're going to be collecting them to dispose of them or I don't know. I just feel like if we just didn't advertise it correctly, it might not go out. And for me, it's going to be a measurable moment. >> Yeah. >> Because I want to see
>> Can we create street captains and have the EAC identify a street captain to be able to determine who like what street make it a street competition? >> Who can collect the most amount? >> It's like the shredding though. I'm shocked at how many people have stuff to shred, >> whatever it might be. But like I'll go around my little street, my little
truck, and pick up anything and take it there. That's a That's a cool That's That's an interesting idea, too, because because really all it takes is one person with a truck to load off their whole street >> and we throw a street party >> truck between all of us. I could think of a young man that would really >> We throw a street party collects the
most amount of waste >> and delivers it. >> What's the What's the prize? >> The street party. >> Oh, I like this. >> We will, you know, >> bring in bring in a uh a food truck and let everyone eat the food. Let's make it more let's complicate it
for you. I like that. >> Create a little competition if you want to. Annual >> I do the $10,000. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. I think we all agree with that. >> Okay. Let's close the loop on this one. So, we're going to we're not going to do the rebate program. We're going to
suggest EAC to come up with >> some whether it's gift card or maybe come up with another way that's not so >> Yeah. >> expensive. >> Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. We we we'll workshop it a little bit more. We might be able to even have the EAC members be
collectors of the staff. >> Is there an initiative? Right. >> Well, the the problem is if if it's a village thing, you have to do it professionally, right? So the the Chief McLaclin came out and he said that you have to the village is colle collecting things, it has to be done professionally
by some sort of certified person that can collect hazardous material and transported. >> Exactly. But but if it's EC members, perhaps EC members, of course, residents could. So maybe we can make it more of a resident driven thing that's not where we're not
legally handcuffed to all these requirements and that >> there's still a street party permit free. >> Yeah. >> All right. So you'll look into it more. >> Put a pen in it. >> Whisk. >> All right. Any other any other items to
discuss or add to community appearance, character, and identity? >> You have comments. >> I know. I would see if council had any more comments. No. >> No. >> Okay. Is there public comment? Mr. Spiri, >> my name is Mark Spiri. I live in a
country club. Um I'd like to connect the discussion on from the the way you talked about old Dixie with remembrance and to Questive Park. Um because as Mr. Stone raises excellent points on making
but our place isn't is is not you know it's not a matter of gateway to have a gateway in nowhere. The way to make the place is having a a great theme inside. And I think that the residents of the village have been perfectly consistent. Every time we ask a lot of times council
notices this. Uh the theme is there's a great love for natural Florida into Questa and all of these all of the discussions are in orbit of that great love of natural Florida into Qua. So the way to make the place is to keep that in mind and I think that provides guidance
as you prioritize the different the choices that you have. So, for example, over and over again, make a beautiful place. I think it's easy if someone's giving $125,000 for a park. Remember, phase three, what doesn't matter what the phase is, that
should be a top priority. And I think that the money that someone's prepared is an additional endorsement when we're asking about usage. Like, there's great value there if people recognize it. So, I think that that's easy. Um, and also that's creating place. to creating a
municipality with beautiful spaces and the more beautiful spaces the better. That's the theme and I think that also provides guidance for toquest park because at the sheret that was the consistent theme. This was a space that's supposed to be dedicated to
nature-based recreation and it's great that the baseball fields are fine. The moderators actually they didn't promote the nature-based options. They promoted more what I would call in infrastructure intensive options. But even in that
context, that moderation context, the residents were clear that their priority was nature-based and so make it a beautiful space. And on this, I'd like to I'd like to say I think that there's a little bit of a disconnect. So it's
possible, you know, recreation, there are different ways to look at it. creating very beautiful spaces that make it easy for residents of all ages to get outside either to meet and play chess in beautiful spaces outside or just to walk or to run. That's that's a great
alternative. It's not highly structured, but it's available to lots of people. And my impression of the sharet, especially for depressive park, was that was really what the thrust of the resident preference was. So I'm I'm I have no problem if I defer to your sense
mayor that you're hearing people say I would like volleyball court and and I think that that's something to accommodate but the m the master plan that was proposed after the sharet was an accommodation of all those interests and the sharet results were clear
nature-based priority and that consistent also with my experience that many families also involved involved in a structured recreation for kids still recognize the great value of of having beautiful spaces in the village where
they live where kids can go outside and be outside and be safe. So I I think that it's important not to lose that priority and it ties into making a beautiful place that's a place you come in and you know that it's a place. So I think that that should provide guidance
that concern that those issues that were concerns for old Dixie should guide the priorities how to go forward on Remembrance Park and how to go forward also to Quest the Park. And then finally I would say you know another way to create a beautiful place or to create the sense of place is it's a place where
people are are outside because there are beautiful spaces and one of the best ways to do that is to make it possible that it's safe for people to be outside and one of the best ways to do that is to lower the speed limit. So actually I would say whenever possible try to lower the speed limit because you're doing
something that creates that that sense of place. So I guess my bottom line is oh no is there one other point. So in considering the cost like inquest the park in addition to the these points of tying it in with creating space I would
challenge the the need because there are playing fields very close nearby many different places and it's easy to see many times during the year they're completely empty. On the other hand, there is a lack of beautiful outdoor spaces where people can just go and hang
out or go as a destination to walk or run. So, there's always great value there. And the other thing is it seems like it's the greatest return on investment because they're much less expensive to make and they're much much less expensive to maintain. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you.
>> All right. So, we want to just power through and do the last and third item before lunch or do you want to take a break now? What do you want to I just need a quick restroom break. But outside of that, I'm good to keep going. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Start the timer. I'm starting the timer.
My >> It's a race. It's a race. >> My 16-year-old can't believe that our street is 25 miles an hour >> in our neighborhood. >> Oh, really? >> Pretty sure they are. >> That's typical for neighborhood. >> Well, she's like, "Well, she's so fast." Yeah.
>> Yeah. because it's it's one of those situations like we would like lose friendships with our neighbors if we went 25 down our street. >> Oh yeah. >> I mean you just don't do it. There's just too much. And so >> I get live once someone. >> Yeah. >> So how do you how do you reduce the
speed limit for everybody on the neighborhoods? You can't. Can you? >> I don't think so. >> Yeah. It's a state thing, right? >> I think so. I think all community roads like that I mean I can look into it. Council gives me direction. I don't think there's any stress before 25 unless it's a private street.
>> Kicker is usually like if you have another road like um that's over 25. >> It has to be um it has to be percentile of the speed of traffic which just doesn't make any sense to me. Like if you want to lower if we have a I
think old Dixie is 40 I think if you want to lower it to 35 80 fth percentile has to be within that already driving that speed which doesn't make it's backwards but but that's fantasting Yeah, >> I do them all the time when somebody
complains. It's usually never >> It's usually not what everybody thinks it is. >> Exactly. It was complete opposite of what >> really. So, if everybody thinks they're driving over 25, it's probably not all the way through. And maybe it's just the noise level, but I would say at
least in our neighborhood in TCC, the biggest at least appear to be offenders are UPS guys um or any of the delivery trucks and the garbage guys. But maybe it's just cuz
they're so loud. I don't know. But >> the iPad >> right here is going to mute us. They're the biggest ones at heart. >> Stop complaining about somebody, you know. I just want to make sure.
>> Are we doing this now? >> I don't know. Kyle, >> it' be nice if we could uh get past this so we can grade them while you guys are eating lunch and that way speed everything up. I'm just grabbing my sugar level.
>> I will make sure >> and for >> Yes. >> Wow. >> Only for you guys, >> man. I didn't know we were doing. >> That's the biggest thing I for you guys. So >> they're so
>> That's awesome. >> That's how much the clerk's office and Sabina think you guys. >> I would have made sandwiches at home and brought them for you guys. >> Subway or Publix probably. >> You should wait.
What I do is I like hold my fingers like this. So when I forget, I'm like, why am I holding my fingers like this? Oh, that's right. You do that. >> I do that. >> But what if you can't remember? You're like, I know. I love that. >> It's happened. >> Okay. Now I'm just a weird guy holding my fingers like
>> this. This isn't on here, but can we put the budget in a new chair for brick? >> Brick. What's going on chair? That chair on the end, it's broken. >> Chair's broken. >> You never noticed that. Maybe I did it. >> No, it was it was here two years ago or three years ago.
>> It's been like that the whole time. >> I swear they're brand new years ago. >> You're sitting That's easy ask. >> I try to sit on this side, but then I'm like question.
You got discretionary fun. >> We'll fix your chair. I don't know what's broken. So, >> it's just kind of like leaning. You said, "How about how about this? Just we're not in here all the time. Just come and switch it out." Were you here when we had the black
>> got to be plush like I'm leaning this way. >> I see it. I see it now. >> Okay. com. >> Let me put you on the record real quick. Hold on. Let me let me perfect. But all right. I I I was going to say this earlier and this is kind of
kind of a throwaway com. It doesn't really mean anything cuz we're already I I know there is the need or at least I hear there's a need for the baseball diamonds, but I I wanted to at least say this cuz I've thought about it so many times. Uh in my mind, it would be so
cool to have that back just this big wide open green tree with some trees. Um even if it's just for like the short term while we if we phased and I'm talking to Quest Park, sorry, should have said that. But if we we don't have
like this big wide open green where we could do like quest movie nights and you know like I think there is something there and I think that's what Mr. Superior is getting at is like it doesn't have to be like completely activated you know like it's
good to have some passive stuff in an active park. So I don't know I I do think there's some truth to what he said about that. That's all I got. >> What's that? DY noted. >> DY noted. >> I will say I mean if we start making changes
>> I know >> we have to bring it back for like a public trip because the the plan besides basically parking because of code it's exactly what the public put together and what was approved. So I guess I still go back and forth like
>> why why why are we trying to change it? >> Um and isn't there wouldn't there be room around the baseball fields anyways? There's still a lot of open space there. >> Yeah. I mean, I think for something like that, you could do it right there on the like the on the multi-purpose field. I know when I went to Abico for event, they just did they had like one of the
big field the football fields like we they do the movie right there on the >> So, I think there's plenty of room for something like that. We'd have to, you know, we'll work that part out. >> Okay, pretend I didn't see it. Let's keep going. >> No, it's fantastic you said it. No, I'm just saying like my opinion is if we if we start making actual changes, like I
think we really owe it to the public to do another show. >> I agree. >> But then I think we just look s That's my opinion. >> We heard you, but we don't we don't think you're right. It's every year, >> RIGHT? THAT'S HOW IT FEELS. I DON'T KNOW. >> SO, TYPICALLY, in my experience, master parks plans are done every 10 years. And
so, you just make that part of your battle rhythm that every 10 year we're going to relook at that, go through that process. And we just did that what 3 years ago, 2 and a half, 3 years ago. So, in seven years in theory, or if something else triggers it, you know, you just kind of stay with the plan. So
that way the next council, you know, next year doesn't come and say, "Oh, let's change it again." And then the next council wants to change it again. It's like this is the plan the community came up with. And so you kind of stay that plan. Even if you're a new council member, you don't and I'm not saying anybody doesn't like it, but if you're a new council, you don't like it. You you
know, we don't we don't go through that exercise every year. So that's typically how it's done in government, our municipal government. >> Okay. Thank you. Uh our final goal deliver and sustain highquality municipal infrastructure and
services. The first initiative is enhance storm water resilience through funding and upgrades. >> So um you know last year we we decided we were going to take uh 50% of the water or the utility tax. We charge 9%
to the utility of water utility. take um half of that which is 135,000 toward projects, not operations, just projects. And so um we were able to do that got us up to where we're spending about $180 to
$200,000. Um, one of the things that we're looking at and I had um um Allison put together kind of like a a project over the next 5 years is we're going to we're going to try to do what
we did with water utility or with the water utilities is try to set aside 21% of our of our funds for payo projects and so that way we can help build up our reserves unless we have a major project we will be spending spending hopefully
operationally spending somewhere in the 250 range and still putting 21%. So I feel like we're good as long as we prioritize that, continue to prioritize the 135,000 out of the water utility tax to carry over in the future. Uh that
would be the priority. If we have discussions and there wants to be more money and expedite even faster, I think that's that's another discussion. But I think as long as it's a priority, we'll continue to fund that water utility tax or the storm water through the water
utility tax and additional revenues that we get. Um you guys know that we typically index those those those fees and they go up 3% or CPI every year. Um we'll continue to do that unless there's additional direction from council.
>> Thank you. Any discussion? I'm good as long as every maintenance and project like this is tied to some form of inflation that it continues to increase annually the expense to maintain it. Sounds like it is
>> well I mean we have estimates I mean when we putting together five years we're basing off of what you know Allison believes the going cost are. I mean, if you know, we have any kind of rush like we had with CO and things going up 9 10 20%, like it's, you know, it'll
>> we'll have that discussion again. But I think we're doing all right trying to lean forward a little bit with that water utility tax. >> So, would um and I've brought up with you like the flood mitigation plan uh couple items that Doug hasn't been
able to get done because of funding. Does that fall under your >> Yeah, all the storm water stuff would. Um I think I don't recall what projects were on there when we had that vulnerability assessment. There wasn't >> Well, there's that. So the I think these are two. There's a vulnerability
assessment, which I know Allison has a 5-year plan for, but then there's that flood mitigation projects. What? Don't we have to report that to the county? >> Oh, you're talking about the loss mitigation stuff. That's those are typically driven by what we had as FEMA
money before. Um and so usually you don't get those they don't get funded until you actually have the storm. So like if you have damage when you rebuild they give you funds so that way you rebuild and you be more resilient the next time. Those are all in our 5-year
capital plan. You'll see those. Um, we just kind of we typically recite them because in order to be part of the LMS plan, you have to have them in your in your future planning. And so I believe that's what you're talking about. I think we have like three projects. One is uh raising the generator, putting a
generator in there. I think want some is like um shutter or um impact windows. I forget all the we have like three major projects that he has listed in there. Um, you know, I don't think any
of those we uh intend to fund specifically through the budget. Um, I think we're looking for grants for those. >> So, what why do we have to report it? Who do we do we report it to FEMA or to Cuz I
remember you forwarded a report to >> It's in the county. the county upholds that list and so if there if there is damage we have to report that to the county and the county will prioritize the FEMA funding to distribute in the future for that.
>> So we're not on any timeline or there's no penalties. These aren't getting done. >> No, I don't believe so. still I mean they're important projects at the end of the day but so anything like that and the vulnerability assessment that's all going to be
wrapped up under here and then staff will just prioritize >> that's right and if you guys want to see those discuss we can always have a workshop if it you know if it's a high priority but I feel good about the direction that we're trending with storm water obviously if we have any major you
know major damages or whatever um I mean we're trying to prioritize the ones that are you either failures coming or that we have flooding, you know, those types of things. I if we had more money, we can obviously, you know, rebuild swailes
faster and some of those things that um are in need. But I think every year we have and I have to don't quote me on her thing, but she has a couple swailes, couple projects for each year in the next five years. >> By the way, there's a good example of
the swailes on river. Yeah. Um about how you can plant them. >> It's right next to you. >> The house just redid their swale. >> Yeah. They just Well, it was the house that originally put Kucia in. >> Mhm. >> That didn't comply and they took the Clusia out and now they they put the
swale and it just kind of sat there for a while just dirt. But now they put these really nice grasses on the >> I believe I believe they're they're going to be under a code violation. Oh jeez. Well, I never said who it was. So, um >> they planted uh some plants or some
hedges right up against the road. Um and so I don't know. I I know that code was looking at the >> Oh gosh. >> They just aren't there. See, >> somebody planted if it's the same one. Somebody planted some plants. >> These are like >> tall grass. >> Yeah. I I was like I I knew about it. I
don't know where we're at with it is in violation. >> Not a great example. >> It looks awesome. Well, I mean it just look I think it if anything never mind, you know, if it's in violation, >> we'll take a look at it. But I I understand what you're trying to say like trying to make sure the swell is there and then whatever plantings come
with that. I mean, we'll we'll have to look at but we haven't ever updated our code to allow plantings in there yet. So, I mean, that's why I think we're having some of those discussions because we're still chewing on the ride ofway stuff. But, um, point taken that that's a good example of what you guys are
looking for. And and it falls in line with this, but maybe it's a different issue. I talked about with Jeremy, you know, sidewalks and I think it's some lowhanging fruit, but if you look at the sidewalks that are redone on El Portal, >> the that is the true definition of a
swale there's >> it's that and the water goes there. And that's why I think if we do some lowhanging fruit, some connectivity, you know, there's a sidewalk to nowhere on Dober on the south or evergreen on the south side. just the guy's got a house on the corner there on the sidewalk that
goes halfway this way and halfway that way. And if you could just connect some of that connectivity connectivity down Dober. Um, you know, that's where we get Dober has been identified for swale reclamation. It's because there are no swailes. I think a lot of that was done
just my my my opinion had no knowledge whatsoever when they put the sewer in. They my front yard has you know I have every public utility there is. I'm gonna have the I'm gonna have the transformer. I've got the street light. I've got the manhole cover. You name it, I got it.
But that is completely flat because of that. And I think that part of it was done by Encon, I think, when they came in. So, I think that's a lot. But if we can do some of this connectivity with sidewalks, it will improve the storm water as well in some of these places that are high flood.
>> I don't know where sidewalks fall in. Well, it brings up a good point because I started this by saying if I missed any or not, but I do remember him really talking about we talked a little bit about connectivity. So, this one in under this category have application and mobility plan projects. I think it
probably should be broken into two maybe is the mobility the safety projects that are part of that mobility plan but also the connectivity that is part of that plan. So we can have connectivity projects because maybe those maybe that priority is higher when we start talking about connectivity projects to me that
means sidewalks and I didn't specifically have that and I know you asked for that and so um I think that's something that maybe we should consider is adding a separate bullet point so the council can prioritize that. >> Okay. Just sidewalks because I think it it it touches on storm water, it touches
on soil reclamation, it takes on getting people out of the street and let the cars and the ebikes duke it out. >> I think in part I mean I know there was new sidewalk. I want to when we're done with this I want to go back to that slide that you had that has other potential >> initi sidewalks was on there.
>> Sidewalks was on there. We can decide if we want to take any of those and add them. >> Um I'm sorry. I just want to touch base one more time to be sure with the flood mitigation stuff. So I I found the documents that were sent to us. the CRS
activity 510 for the flood mitigation plan to be part of the um um what is the national insurance program whatever it's called and it says 5year CRS expiration date is October 1 2029 do
we have to have those projects done before then or is it just really >> you have to send to me what we're looking at cuz I'm not I'm not sure >> I guess all I'm saying is if there is a deadline on here I want to make they're prioritized under this. But again, I think, you know, they can
just be wrapped up under this blanket and then staff will know, you know, best how to prioritize them with the funding that we have. So, I do think we've done a really great job getting, you know, starting to get caught up on our infrastructure
maintenance and replacement. And I think storm water's been kind of back burner and I think it's time to bring that up to the to the front um because it's really critical. All right. Safeguard and invest critical water infrastructure.
>> This is the one that's been on our strategic plan. I think it should continue especially with the you know the facilities master plan. You guys know almost every agenda we have, you know, three, four contracts that we're talking about water. And I think it's important
that when you guys are making decisions based on, you know, contracts or, you know, consultants that you have a document in front of you says, "Yep, this is a priority for us, water infrastructure." And so I think it makes it easy for you guys to lean on that one if it's a priority for the council. Um, you know, a lot of really what we're
trying to do right now is is really look at a lot of the PAS stuff because and I think the date got pushed back to 2031, but I mean some of these projects are are big dollar projects to get rid of PAS and so really leaning forward making
that a priority that we got to find ways to to stand that up and ways to fund these. Um, I know Allison's looking at like a a 20-year plan right now to to make sure not only we're in compliance, but to give us an opportunity to see these things coming. Um, and so I think
just keeping this one on our strategic plan and and making it a priority. You guys can determine how high of a priority, but uh obviously that we have our own utility fund and a $10 capital charge, but I think um making sure it's important and and our residents know
it's important. So would this be like storm water? It's kind of a blanket and you guys would prioritize the the different projects we have going. >> But you guys already know several of them that are ongoing right now. You kind you guys kind of know about the well stuff that we're doing the
facilities mass plant. So some of these you guys are already know and you know periodically we can give updates on these and you know obviously if you guys want to change some of the priorities but I mean I think the priorities are I think the priorities are what the priorities are so to speak with some of the PAS stuff
but that's that's not associated with storm water. >> No no she was just saying in reference to storm water how we're kind of putting a blanket on the priority with water. We're not picking a project. We're just picking water infrastructure is important like we can keep moving forward with that in a high whatever you
guys want to rank that >> because most of the rate increase was to water distribution more than improving quality if I remember correctly. Uh well I mean sometimes it's it's for infrastructure so I mean it
doesn't I don't know if you're talking about I mean could be production could be distribution right >> uh all of it has an effect on water quality so I mean that >> but removing PAS and stuff like that is going to be more on not necessarily distribution side it's going to be on the production side
>> right I mean I would say 98% of that yeah if not more so Um, and I don't in regards to, you know, PAS once we get that study done, you know, there could
be significant costs with that thing. Is that is the state law already passed that we're going to have to do a fee study every so often? That's like a mid point and we don't need to add it to here or should we add cuz when would we when did we last do that study with Raphaeli? Did I say that right?
>> Rapellis. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So we did it roughly 3 years ago and so but the resolution for that $10 capital charge says we have to do it. The council wanted it every 3 years. That wasn't necessarily statemandated at the time. what the state statute and
don't don't quote me on I'm going off top of my head basically said if we wanted to continue to charge a 25% search charge to uninorporate area we had to have a study that showed that um the need and how it's you know it it's it's
justifies that expense for outside of sequesta residents and it needs to show that I guess r that nexus uh for their service um and so that's what this study will should be able to knock that check that box too. The other part of that is
now we have to go to and we're getting legal justification of it. We're supposed to be going we'd have to go to Jupiter Island, Jupiter and the Colony, Palm Beach County and Martin County and all have to have a public meeting over there for our rates that we that we do
as well as we have to notice them that we're having a hearing so they would be able to come to vote. So each municipality that we service, we have to have a meeting there and a meeting here. And since we service four different areas, I mean, we have to have eight
different meetings. But you can probably have the same might be five meetings. >> Huh? >> Might be five meetings. >> How so? >> All four outside and then all four on the same day. >> Oh yeah, that's a good way to look at it. >> Five minutes.
>> Yeah, I like your style. So then are we just automatically doing that and that's not something we have to list on here? >> Yeah. I mean we're we're reg I it's we're regulated to do it. So I don't think you need to make it a priority. We're going to I don't want I mean obviously if council tells us not to do
it, we would do it. But I mean we're going to bring it to you guys regardless at this point whether doesn't matter what the priority is. We have to make it a priority. >> So are we >> So how would we treat this for for our own for today's purposes? Oh, you're you're for the water infrastructure. You're talking about the PAS
regulations, the the projects, the $10 capital chart, like all that stuff is just kind of bundled into water infrastructure and how important it is to the village. >> Okay. >> And how you want to prioritize that. >> Okay. >> And so what will we do that study this year or next year? >> This year. Um Allison is trying to
engage them now. We should have it we should at least be started um in the next month or two. probably looking at like a July, August delivery to you guys. Um, but we have not got a time frame from the consultant yet because I'm sure the consultants are swarmed
right now because of that some of that new regulation um that's coming out. So, um we'll we'll advise on the updated timeline on that. >> Well, the good thing is we just did it three years ago, so we're >> current. Um,
I don't know if this needs to be talked about right now, but I'm just going to ask a question in light of um some of the legislation passed and funding for this topic. If we if we don't we can't do the 25% search charge,
can we do 19 since they don't pay the utility tax like the incorporated? Don't incorporated pay the water utility tax but unincorporated don't. We can still charge the 25%. >> We can if we prove it or >> Right. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I don't think >> you don't think that's going to go. >> I don't think so.
>> At a minimum, we still charge 19 because I think we're pay 19%. >> Yeah, it might come out to that whereas just I think we'll be able to do 25% but it might come to that where we where we do 19. Well, it' be 9%. >> Oh, nine. I thought it was 18
>> 9%. At the very least we'd still be able to charge them a 9% at the very least but I think you know most time you can justify it because of the you know the infrastructure that's outside the cities often cost more to run longer lines and you know some of those uh you know cost
time you know so I think there's some justification that most people can put on it. >> Any other water infrastructure comments? Okay. >> And application of mobility plan projects. >> Um, so there's a list a whole list of
projects on the mobility plan. You know, we originally we set out we were going to also charge a mobility fee to go with this. Um, we can't, as we already discussed, can't necessarily charge a fee at this at this time. Uh, however, you know, if council prioritize, we can
move forward with some of these some of these projects that are in here. And I recommended that we separate these into you know the safety projects versus the connectivity projects and you guys can score those accordingly and you know prioritize those. Um and then we can
bring back that that list and have them prioritize and you guys can talk about which which sidewalk or you know which safety improvement you guys want to go with first. But overall, I think there's two different things built into that. Transportation, which is the safety and
the connectivity part. >> Any comments, questions, discussion? Like I think on some of the the mobility projects through the safety and some of the connectivity and again what I mentioned before the swale issue and the
sidewalks you that's some low hanging fruit that we can check off our list and remove them and show the public like hey we've done we're doing things and there's some ability to do that and they're meaningful projects. We're not just these I don't think they have to be evergreen type things, but I think there's an ability to really show the
public that hey, we are make we're doing stuff. We're getting things accomplished and we're going to keep referring back to our strategic plan and we can say yeah and it rotates and these things we you know we we we've accomplished some of these things and I thought, you know, looking at the the mobility safety
issues might be one that we could tackle or something like that. But I just think that we can we can ch check a couple boxes and show some completion and some of these issues instead of them being remaining on here as an evergreen. >> Is this stuff that we control or is this
mixed in with some of the stuff we have to get county on board with >> both? So like some of the connectivity stuff I mean where you talk about you know remembrance park or connecting from you know Riverside to um I think there's a road project we've
talked about many times on do um I mean so there's there's a handful of sidewalk projects that are not county and we won't have to worry about that. Um but there are projects in this thing that are county projects or are FDOT projects or both um that we'll have to work on.
But I think um you know we can we can look at those if it becomes a high priority and we're you know we're talking about we can bring those back to council and you guys can give staff more direction if it if those are high priority items >> that process. Um, just to echo what
council member Sartorii said, people people are noticing and appreciating the efforts we've put in towards, you know, mobility already. Um, I was out for a family walk yesterday. We were on a Costa drive and um, technically a
Jupiter resin but off Riverside, very close to our, you know, boundary um, thanked us for, you know, just that that strip on Riverside that we just completed. um he's like, "I wish they would do the same with the sidewalk in front of my, you know, our our houses."
So people people are noticing and are really appreciating it. So I think it's important to to keep that momentum momentum going. So Jeremy, did you want us to to really actually break this one out to those top three bullet points or >> I mean that's at your guys's discretion,
but I would say you the two which was the some of the safety improvements and the other one would be the connectivity or the mobility type projects. Um so I think we should do two for that at least if you guys are in agreement with that.
>> So one safety, one connectivity. >> Yeah. But not the traffic calling that part of >> it could be safety because I mean >> but if you want to make a third I don't think that you need to. I think they'll all fit into one of those buckets those
two buckets. >> So remove application mobility plan projects and put in the two. >> Yep. >> That one out. So, if I could just for the scoreboard, um, and you guys can correct me if I'm
wrong. Um, and then we'll go back to that slide that the mayor was referencing as far as priorities. But right now, under operate physically responsible government, we have nonadorum assessment, develop future master facilities plan. Just those two.
>> Can I add one? >> Yeah. I mean, talk about >> Well, per per council you can. Yeah. So, this just came to my head while we're talking here. We have an environmental action committee. Can we create our own Doge committee in that aspect of I know there are
people that want to just look and I think it'd be great to Great. You're you're allowed within the community. Come on, be part of this committee and do your deep dive. Let's work with them. Let's help them. Let's see what they can find and have them have send recommendations on
opportunities to cut costs somewhere. >> Doesn't Palm Beach Gardens has Don't they have a budget committee? >> People can look at the >> maybe look cuz I know I know I don't know what they call it, but Palm Beach Gardens has I'm going to call it a budget committee. I >> I think everyone on it does have legit
finance experience though. I don't know if um >> they would have to come to council and apply. >> Yeah. I don't know if they're appointed or if it's just open application. I mean, I'd be I would be up for looking into um >> the concept. >> Yeah. See what Palm Beach Gardens and
possibly other people do it. I most likely can workshop and not necessarily add it to the strategic plan. >> Can I just throw out there like cuz you keep mentioning Palm Beach Garden, they don't have a good reputation right now. Um, so if we were to consider looking at what that concept looks like, just make
sure we do it the quest way and not mimic them. >> Yeah. I mean, again, it's just I think doing something like that, it's always >> nice to look to see what our neighbors are doing. I mean, we've done that with the EAC, right? We reviewed talking about Jupiter, too. Everyone would smash
Jupiter. I don't want to be like Jupiter. My concern, well, pro or con, I think a negative of that or a potential problem would be the folks that want to do that. I think are the ones that are, my words,
there's conspiracy theorists here. We all know that every municipality, a lot of there's a lot of municipalities have bad actors. >> I've always said Quest is not one of them. But I think the people that were to come in are going to expect their suggestions to take action on and they're going to think, well, would you even would you invite us for you? We
gave you all these recommendations. And they may not be well thought out reasons. Um I think it's going to look like, oh, well, we went through this whole exercise and I spent, you know, all this time and you're not even going to listen to anything I had to say and I don't don't want to. Then then then
there becomes the the the tide gets turned against us and that oh look at this council we we found all this fat that we can cut and you guys don't even take it into consideration. So yeah I see I see the point in it but I also I could see
the EAC has felt that way before. >> Mhm. Right. Well, I think that's why I mean I would view it more of like an oversight committee and appointed >> like checks and balances and so we would be more of an appointment versus application
>> because I think that I don't disagree with what you just said. >> What are we checking and balancing? We we have an audit that we just did. Like what are we checking and balancing our decisions up here that the public should be paying attention to? >> Correct.
But they already are supposed to be doing that. Like this is a public meeting that is accessible. These are public record. Like I'm I guess I'm just kind of looking if we add it already exists. So
what are we really adding? >> Well, the the ability already exists. The action it might not be happening. I mean >> Okay. I I think what it does is it creates um another layer of um
transparency, another layer of giving the opportunity to come come look like I'm very comfortable and confident with it with our own checks and balances of the village and the management side of things. This is just another group that
has that has interest in it and there is a big push um nationally and statewide to look at cost >> y >> and and it's it's listening to that and and catering to that and allowing people the opportunity to get involved. >> Okay. >> And it might
>> I think more ways of creative involvement is good. >> I would need more time to think about that. I don't know how much I can rank that today. Well, as I was saying, that seems more like a workshop. Like out of the workshop list, at a minimum, Jeremy can see what other municipalities do
gardens and assuming others is there's I know there's a I don't know if this one's passed, Jeremy. There's a a state law that is going to require like a >> pass sign too. >> So, it's like a 10% reduction exercise. I mean, is that punted to some a
committee like that? I I need to understand that law and what we're going to have to be required to do. So this I mean really there's two parts I mean conversation is that you'll see a lot there's municipalities and depends on you know and I don't know where this is coming from you know maybe there's different angles but there's
municipalities that don't do a good job of transparency like I mean council even I think the year before last you know approved you know putting our whole digital budget book I mean anybody anytime anywhere in the country can go to our website and go department by
department expenditures and there are cities that don't do that. And we're very transparent. Anybody wants to come talk budget with me, they can come sit in my office. I'll go line by line with them any point. You know, and through our budget process, we typically don't do we do line items, but we don't like,
you know, drill down like if you have office supplies, we don't drill down to pencils versus pens versus paper. We can do that if it's if we feel like if people are complaining like we're not transparent enough. So, I mean any point like to not to to create a committee so
they can come look at our books. They can come do that now. Like I mean we'll they can do a record request. We'll send them exactly what they're looking for. So I I feel like, you know, are we are we trying to solve a problem or are we trying to create a problem? Like and I know that the the state law is trying to
make sure those bad actors um that we say or the municipalities that have always struggled with that transparency, they're trying to make it a requirement. And so there are requirements in that state law that says they have to, you know, provide budget, they have to, you
know, make it available online. Some of the stuff that we already do. The other part of it is that you have to do a 10% reduction exercise in the public and post it. And that'll be not this year's budget, but next year's budget. And so, you know, with all that being said, I
mean, we'll do whatever, you know, council wants to do if we feel like, but I mean, I guess I'd love to hear if if somebody thinks we're not being transparent enough and if we can do better inhouse without creating, you know, an additional layer of government and but that's up to you. I don't think
I mean I don't think anybody's saying you're not being transparent enough. I think that's that's not the issue. Um I think it is just a perception and trying to to beat the perception. Um just a thought
>> the 10% exercise. So again without really thinking this through too much yet. See, I would put that on us because we're elected to listen to the people and make that budget based on what we think is right and talking with the people. >> So, yeah, I'm going to sit on that cuz I
don't disagree. I understand where you're going with it. My concern is because it's happened with other committees in the village. It's almost like creating a second council because our job is to make the budget. I have in the past wanted our clerk's office to
have more access to publish things, but the state does put certain things where they can't, like when we have things on the um ballot, like they can't. And I I don't think that's fair. But so for me, I think we should be able to publish or
advertise more publicly, but sometimes I know when I ask for those things, there are state things that don't allow our clerk's office to put those out there. So that's really where my root of the hiccup is because I do like putting this out so it's more accessible for people. >> I agree. >> I know public records requests, it's a
process. They have to take some steps. >> I'd almost like to take away those steps and be able to hear. >> Yeah, we already have it. No, >> the way I look at it is we're supposed to be environmentally friendly too as council members and we are >> and this is >> there's not a need for the EA EA
environmental action committee either. >> We'll need them. >> Yeah, >> in theory. >> It's just the same concept. >> Okay, >> we can workshop it. I mean, we'll and then we'll look at some other cities and what they do. I think like Juno has an audit committee. So, they just reviewed make sure the audits in compliance,
which I mean, you guys all get that. I think you know you look at bigger cities like gardens where they're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars like a little different than us like ours we you know our budget document I can sit through it in one day and get go go go through everybody one day like their
their budget document would take a couple days to do something like that so um but I'll I'll get some comparisons other cities what they're doing and then we'll workshop it and you guys can give us direction. Can we codify the idea of having this transparency with that digital version always being being up
and available? >> So, we've always we've always done some version of this. This this is a company that we, you know, paid whatever $15,000 so we can have, you know, all these digital nice looking, you know, introduction letters and it's all
formatted with it makes it easy for our staff to do that. Um, I mean that's >> Yeah, you can. I mean >> I guess per law we have to now though >> we have to we have to make everything available I guess what I don't know if he's saying like through this format but what if this company goes out of
business through this format so as long as it's codified somewhere >> we have we have to now >> as of January of 27 it takes effect I believe I'd have to that's why we don't have to do it this year they made it so
it's effective as January 1 of 27 and so next year's budget process will I mean it'll look a little different. I mean everything that we do and trans you know and put up it will be the same. We're just going to do a 10% exercise that we typically don't do now. But um
you know we we've won the audit award for 45 straight years like and I know they don't always look at fraud and some of that's my but I mean I think we're very high caliber high ethical group with our finances and anybody can see at
any point and ask any questions. So, but we'll do whatever, but just know that that will be a sunshine uh committee, which will add additional layers to our clerk's responsibilities, too. So, just being mindful of that when we have those conversations.
>> All right. So, workshop not council. Is there consensus to workshop it? >> Yeah. >> I'm going to throw that this out there now so people can give it some thought. I would depending on the type of committee I would consider having a sunset date so whatever council at the
time then could reassess it think if it's it's still benefiting >> uh the community but yeah I would I would highly recommend a sunset date if we go backet >> okay so um >> can we pause for a sec everyone eat I
saw some I did not eat >> my idea was we get through this get get the priorities so you guys can rank them while you guys are eating and then that way otherwise >> I got to do those other slides too. >> Okay, >> I'm going to work and eat at the same time. >> Okay. >> Yeah, crap. Okay, just grab your real
quick slides. I thought it was just >> pretty cool. You knew something >> colder in here. >> It's so cold. >> Just tell me you want 62 or 63. >> This is so cold. I'm like trying to
shove my whole arms in these pockets. getting worse as they go. >> Do we know that? No, >> really. >> Oh, really? >> It wasn't until my late 20s. like out of nowhere.
>> I definitely have like a slight change, >> right? So, I can have butter cuz butter's in the fat. I just didn't know until my kids had allergies and I learned a lot. >> I always thought so weird during the pregnancy or after like my sister
>> had no shellfish allergies until she was pregnant. She still can't have shellfish. Is it roast beef? Is that a little happy hour? >> Oh, here it is. That pasta salad. >> I would go there and get because their
sandwiches are big. I have lunchy >> today's lunch >> and I have tomorrow lunch and then like I eat one so big and it's like >> it never pans out where I have
>> do a happy hour earlier special. >> I didn't know that before. Oh, that was the Italian spicy type. >> Yeah.
>> Oh my god. I did not know that. for sure. Unless it's every day about the office 4:30. Currently I do sometimes I don't >> like full time. You're not >> Yeah.
>> I mean I do but it's you don't want to go come back and I'm never like there all day and we don't have any is very old actually his reasoning for it to sort of
get a lot of people they want to be >> they want to be choose very small. It's really Yeah. >> Such a small world, right? >> And Cliff, I didn't know you used to work at Nelson.
>> Yes. >> Still like best friend. Oh, he didn't mention that. >> Yeah, he was confess. That's what I was trying to get out.
Didn't want to go back to Oh, I was wondering >> had somebody My daughter's crazy. Oh, really? >> Yeah. I met him. Travis. I should build exterior.
the worst place. >> Yeah. >> Here's the bottom. I almost definitely taking a cookie. >> Are the cookies from >> Guess if they are? I don't know. They have the best peanut butter treat almost with like a
hard layer of chocolate on top like that. >> So it's so good. It's like my favorite sweet treat. >> Yes. Everything. olives in there either purchase chicken
like we rarely get like Starbucks pasta. We get their homemade pasta because it's like it's a game changer. It's so good homemade pasta. Kyle makes up all he does his thing and like dinner. >> The only other one we were thinking
about adding under fiscally responsible government was the mobility assessment. >> Jay, did you get a hold of Keith? Yeah. >> Is that something you can work on or no? >> It wasn't 100% clear to me. I asked him
a couple questions and he hadn't responded back with the answers, but I can read his response. I hope he did just respond back. >> Sorry. So his first um regarding the mobility stuff um
in in passing a mobility fee, his first response was uh SB1A language says that a county or municipality within a county that was in the federal disaster declaration for one or more of the stated hurricanes may not propose or adopt a moratorum. volume or
a more restrictive or burdensome plan amendment or el land development regulation concerning review, approval, site planning, development order, etc. before October 1st, 2027. In my opinion, doing background work is neither making
a proposal nor adopting anything. in fact finding and establishing a basis for a future proposal or future adoption for sure. But as long as we didn't bring it forward to a public hearing and present it publicly, I think we can
defend the activity as not violating SP 180. And then there I asked him if that means we can discuss the issue at a public meeting and what if we approve a study or consultant for discussion and he says there's no judicial guidance on any of
that. We can be conservative and wait until October 27 or if we are aggressive and someone challenges the actions in lawsuit then we will have to defend it in court. >> Oh >> yeah. >> Your choice.
>> Cuban basically. What does council think? She added who lives. >> I think if Yes. I think if we're doing that nonadalorum assessment kind of goes right along with that. It's just another another source
of revenue or different source. >> I agree to add it. What about you guys? Is it getting mult is it is it getting bolt in or is it could be standing by itself? >> It would be a third bullet point under uh fiscally responsible government.
>> Okay. By itself. >> Okay. I Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. >> What do you want to call it? >> Mobility. >> Mobility fee assessment. >> Yeah. >> Are you printing a new one or should we just write in >> uh just write in
that matters. >> I just want to make sure that I'll just make sure that they're all in the same order. >> Yeah, they should all be in the same order because that'll make it easier for us. >> Okay. So, make number three, third bullet point, the mobility
assessment. >> All right. >> I'm sorry. Can you repeat that, Mayor? >> The third bullet point under uh fiscally responsible government should be mobility fee assessment. So, we're just going to the second copy we're just going to write in. >> Um, so they don't have to reprint it,
but we have to make sure everyone is in the same order in same location. All right. And go to the second category. Um, protect community appearance, character, and identity. >> I wrote yours.
>> Oh. You just keep going. >> Protect community appearance, character, and identity. Um, we have uh the two that we're adding to that was county line road beautifification and FEC rideway beautifification. Those were the
two that we added. Did we break out old Dixie safety improvements as like a separate or did I just write that down? Well, we maybe it ties in under the safety projects under the on the last category which is mobility plan projects
that we put we separate into um safety and then connectivity projects and those were both on that that plan. So skipping down to the third one. >> So let's write. So after hazard hazardous materials amnesty day, why
don't we all write in the county line road beautifification >> and then the FEC right away beautifification after that one. Okay. right away. Okay, third one. >> And under deliver and sustain high
quality municipal infrastructure and services, we're adding two. So instead of we're going to strike through application of mobility plan projects. We're going to strike through that and we're going to put safety projects and those are part
of the mobility plan. And then we're also going to add connectivity projects which are part of the mobility plan. Should we let's do like should we do mobility plan dash so we know it's okay so do mobility plan dash improve safety
mobility then mobility plan dash connect places and pathways places and pathways >> Yep. And then if there's any others anywhere you guys want to discuss, I know that these where we can look relook at the
the slides. I think they're pretty much covered. Um I think you wanted to go back to these, mayor. >> Yeah. Could you um blow out cuz then you had like a couple slides with other priorities that weren't some were listed but some
weren't I believe right like that first one's not on the list that taxes public education on property reform is not on the list if I'm not clear on the health safety in welfare focus. That's very broad.
>> You need background. >> Yeah. I mean, I didn't I think I mean whoever gave me that one could talk about the public safety patrol and proactive policing training medical staff. I mean, we we have all that. So, I'm not really sure what an initiative would be for that, but if anybody wants
to propose an initiative, we can do that. And the other one was um what was the other one? the taxes, continue public education on property tax reform. I mean, we're uh looking at what other cities are doing. I mean, I think we do a good job with smoke signals and, you
know, we'll continue to try to be creative putting stuff out, but I mean, at this point, we're not really sure what what impact we're even looking at. So, it's kind of tough to educate the public. You know, it could be 100,000, could be 6 million. So, we don't really
know what that impact is. So, we're doing we've done some educations on our website, but if somebody wants to put together a specific initiative, we can do that. >> So, property tax reform was mine and my my thought was just to um like refresh
and maybe change the messaging every so often cuz we've been doing a great job um getting that information out there. But I think if we if we make it different, have a different message, it might catch eyes a little bit more than having the same message all the time
because I we're still under the gun to make sure we're educating the community on what property tax reform is. Um so it's really it doesn't need to be a strategic initiative. Is it something that staff can just work on regardless? But I think um just because nothing was passed during the regular session, I
think we need to still uh keep this on top of uh on you know on top of list of importance for education and just uh switch up the messaging so it's catching people's eyes on a weekly. >> You said we're under the gun to to educate. Who's holding the gun? What do
you mean by that? >> No, the state like the state's not done talking about property tax reform. So I think because a lot of conversations with FLC2 has been like don't like don't stop talking to your legislators like it's not over, right? So >> they didn't pass anything during regular session. They're likely going to have a
special session to be determined. So like we can't let up on the messaging. >> Okay. >> And I want to make sure it's it's it's you know catching people's attention. I think maybe switching up um the messaging every maybe not weekly but >> I think anytime you get a group together like the residence academy that's one
way of it was talked about. It was educational. It was it was really in depth probably. So that was that was a great I think to that in that scenario, but I agree with that idea. >> Um I'm not opposed to continue that conversation, but I definitely think
they do a good job. >> So yeah, I don't know if it needs to be a strategic plan, but I think it >> if we do a um a workshop and we talk about adding another group or whatever, that's another area where people can can come and share their ideas, too. Oh man, you're stressing out with all
these groups. >> It's it's it's not necessarily it's the same type idea of refreshing it is bringing more conversation, >> right? I mean, and I would totally leave that to to staff and the clicks office on on how to just make sure we're, you know, keeping up with the messaging,
making sure it's catching people's eyes. Um whether it's just how we're doing it with socials or, you know, having a town hall or something. I I don't know. Uh but I will say yeah I mean the residents account was a great form and I think the majority of the residents
found value in what they paid didn't really have a big deal or you know a big issue with it. So how do we get that message out when we when we realized um when we really got to talk about it with the class that with the majority they were happy they didn't think they were you know overpaying for the level of
services and what they received every day. So um do we want it to be an initiative? Do we want it staff to just come up with ideas on their own? >> Are you thinking of changing the messaging like to tweak it or just keep it the
same and just keep pushing it? >> I would leave that to staff's discretion, but like I said, maybe just have like a different graph like just something a little different to catch eye because what if when it's the same all the time. regarding that just in general like as a person when I talk to my friends and fellow homeowners and
whatever a lot of people still don't know where their property tax money goes to like in our budget and again that kind of goes down to just constantly like explaining where where that portion of our budget is
paying for. So if I I explain it to him in reverse effect when the schoolboard tax thing came out and it sounds great but then here we are years later it's where is that money? So it's kind of the same thing just being very specific if
you're are as a whole as a village our property tax goes towards bulk of it this this and this and then we have all the other fees that come in but for me it's just the very specifics rather than like a general concept. People see the general concept and it feels good. Oo,
lower my property taxes. But they still, for me, don't understand where the bulk of our money goes. A lot of people forget that the employees, it's not just their salary, it's everything else, too. >> I think the property tax um
messaging, it kind of lays all that out. Like how much homes did it we collect in home? Doesn't it lay all that out >> in a cap? >> It's on the screen. Well, that's phenomenal. We were reading in a specific messaging for property tax reform. It was there was it was somewhere else on our website and I think it's been like a link in our
Friday newsletter every Friday. Yeah. That kind of I think that kind of goes over the basics what you're talking about. >> It does. But then I don't know like how much of our public is reading that versus getting from their news. >> Hence my point is too is being creative
with the messaging. So, we're not we're sticking with the the facts, but being I mean, our clerk's office does an amazing job with like the real they do like when they did the whole, you know, '9s um uh was it? No, the '8s park and rip like, you know, just being creative with the
messaging and so same same data, same talking points, but just catching people's, you know, ear and eye a little bit more. >> I mean, it's just so important to keep >> I'm okay with continue to educate because it's a big thing that's happening. It's just my concern is it's
the information is being sent out municipalities, state news, and it's just really where are people getting their info from? >> Oh, I read inaccuracies on the news. It's
>> again I just I just go back to you know let's just be very transparent about our budget and we we have those we do push those I always wish we push those more our little graphs and our simple breakdowns cuz people see those sales >> initiative or just or just give staff
direction to just be creative on their own and >> I think >> continue messaging. I I don't ever want to add more I don't ever want to add more duties to staff but I think it's part of what we do to educate already through our social media channels the village vibes newsletter things like
that you know the smoke signals so I I think if we just you know suggest that staff tweak that message or you make that a consistent column or something like that I think it could be done that way >> keep it engaging. Yeah. >> Okay.
>> Does everyone go with that? >> Yeah. Okay, Jeremy, Lori, you guys go with that? >> Yeah, we I mean, we can always do more. I mean, I think it's kind of like uh you know, you know, from my standpoint, I know Lori has asked me a couple times about putting more stuff out. Um you
know, from our standpoint, just you know, we don't even know where it's coming from anymore. Like, you're going to go play a football game, you don't know what defense they're playing. Like, we don't know if we're talking about $100,000 impact or $6 million impact. So, for our residents, like how do you educate them? like, hey, it's going to be an impact to you. Well, what does
that mean? What what kind of impact? Because everybody wants lower taxes, right? But if we lower tax $100,000, we can figure out how to eat it, you know, and it's good for our residents. But so, I mean, if we're just trying to catch the eye on, you know, getting tax proposal, that's that's easy. But what
messaging we're putting out, like we don't know if we're playing defense against, you know, $100,000 or $6 million. So, um, >> well, I think it's the three bills, the three bills that are cuz, right, I don't know. So at this point there isn't anything everything's on the table or nothing's
on the table. >> Yeah. >> I I think you keep being very transparent about our current budget, our current process and be diligent on that. As future proposals come, then we'll start talking about those different proposals and how they can impact our current >> I agree. Just the facts. I mean, kind of
like we did during session, right? >> Yep. We'll we'll do some additional messaging. I know, like I said, Lor's office has asked me about it. not recently because I know mayor you were wanting to bring this up, you know, and have discussions, see if everybody's on the same page, but um I'm sure they have
some ideas to do it. We and then, you know, once the proposal does hit, we have to be very careful because once if the state just comes out tomorrow and has a special session, then we're pretty limited on what we can put out. So, we we'll have to we'll have to hit a a cut
off on some of that or or be very careful. So, but we'll we'll game plan it. We don't have to have an initiative for it. We Okay, we can do it. >> That works for me. And yeah, I mean that that whole if something does pass and it's why in my opinion critical to, you
know, keep the gas pedal on messaging because yeah, if it does pass, we're going to be a little more limited in what we can um uh send out from a messaging standpoint. Oh, uh can you pull that slide up again? So the last the last one that was my
first question. What is health, safety and welfare focus? >> Maybe s Mr. Sartorii. Um I think he he just wanted to make sure his top priorities and correct me if it's not you Rick. Um you know his top priorities make sure we're focused on health, safety and welfare. I don't know if
there was any specific initiative. No he just wanted to make sure >> you cap you captured it. you know, asking that that as I mature and evolve as a council person, you know, really going back to the strategic plan to the comprehensive plan and are we looking for how does specific agenda item
address the house safety and wellbeing of residents so it's more of a state of mind so that doesn't need to be there's no initiative directly just don't forget it. I don't know if any of those are mine in particular. Um, when I am asked what is my top top top priority is
absolutely public safety. So, that one might be one of mine because I am specific when I say police and fire. Um, it's not really an initiative. It's just to continue or do more patrolling and proactive policing because a lot of times if you are proactive and you're in
the community, it stops a lot of crime before it even happens. um especially with trends like not just Tik Tok videos but in other areas there'll be crime trends and sometimes they might pertain to a specific kind of training that police or fire might need. So just as
long as council is always up to supporting them and any kind of training that they don't have yet, we support them in getting it so that way they can keep our village safe. It's really just that in a nutshell. Um because if our people can't go to Publix and feel safe or be safe in their homes, don't feel
safe taking a walk or heaven forbid walking out to your car in the middle of the night because you forgot something, then everything else is a wash. So that really if that was me, that's really what I meant by that was just continue to support them because they they keep
our lifestyle great. >> Is that something you want to add as an initiative? No, we definitely have an initiative, but again, we were were asked in the beginning of all this like what are your top three priorities and that is always my top. So if it ends up being an initiative because we end up
like a chief one of the chiefs come in and say, "Hey, like we're seeing a trend of this crime maybe getting close to us or maybe our demographic starts getting older and we have those kind of medical calls and they need a special training for it or a special equipment device to
help provide safety just that we would, you know, make sure we find a way to support that. But luckily, we're not there yet. I hope we don't get there. But again, proactiveness kind of prevents a lot of that stuff from happening. So, no initiative, just always my top priority when I'm asked.
>> Do you have anything to add, Jeremy? I This is from my perspective. I think and I agree and I think both of our chiefs I'm sure uh team members bringing it to them. I think they're they stay so ahead of the curve with the latest trends and technology training. >> But what I'm flat out asked like what
are your top three priorities for the village? That is always number one. So I don't know if that's right on me, but that is one of the things I did say. >> It was it was one of yours. But I I think you know when you're making those decisions, you fit it into one of those buckets that we talked about. So like protect community parents, character
identity or physically responsible government. I mean or the high level of service. I mean when you're making decisions, you can always tie it to one of those three things. And if it doesn't fit in one of those three things, then maybe we shouldn't be approving it. So >> I think we're good. I mean I I couldn't think of an initiative for it. That's
why I didn't put it on there. But, uh, if it's in any indication, you can see that I didn't filter anybody's messages. I just put them on there how I got. So, >> yeah. No, I agree. And I would I would just tell >> I agree with them. I see some that I've
mentioned and I see some that I probably mentioned like in, you know, in so many words, but I think we covered all that in all this. I think we talked about all those. >> Yeah. Connectivity.
>> New sidewalks. That Rick, that one was yours. >> I'm sorry. >> The connectivity. New sidewalks. Was that yours? >> Gaps that way. We don't We don't really have sidewalks on here. >> No, but I think if it's connectivity,
could it fall with >> places and pathways? So, is that meant for more like add sidewalks where sidewalks don't exist or improve the ones? >> Add more. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Because really besides I think El
Portal, it's it's been all maintenance, right? >> Yeah. Five, six years ago, Mr. Stone said, "Take care of what you have and then we'll worry about adding." And so, our focus every year has always been on like and we still have a lot of work to do of improving the sidewalks. Um, but I
think you know the the initiative is to try to now that we've done a better job of taking care of and set some money every year. Now, how do we expand some of that connectivity that we've talked about for the last year or so? >> So, I think it's tied in that last
initiative that we put on there. Um, I forget how you worded it, but um, the connectivity part. Okay. uh >> covered all that stuff. Does everyone agree? >> Mhm. >> I think it was
>> we didn't talk about golf cart utilization. >> Yeah. >> Patrick, what do you got for that one? >> I mean, >> I'm not calling anybody out. Sorry, guys. For whoever came up with that idea. That's >> I mean I I don't know. When we brought this up months ago,
I think it was actually not a workshop, maybe counsel. I don't remember what it was. >> I thought the concept was very cool. Um, but you know, how you get there, I think it's a part of our probably the wrongability plan,
but I uh yeah, I don't I don't know where where I was going with this one. I guess it I mean the only thing you can really do is make it slightly easier um for golf carts, golf cart parking, that kind of stuff. But then you also
have the you know the enforcement side of more golf carts on the road. But I I do like the idea of I I just think about our local businesses and you know I just love the idea of a young family piling into a golf cart safely that's
you know they all have seat belts on and rolling up and or to our parks it's quested park that will never be really a reality but um not something we necessarily need to put a lot of time and effort into right now but I do think
it would be something cool for our village. I think there's really like three three angles you go at this, right? Like first first we start with, you know, when I first got here, there were so many complaints about people on golf carts and driving and um I think we did a really good job of educating and
probably a little bit of just statewide uh of low-speed vehicles and people started getting their golf course registered. Now, when you see somebody driving down, usually look you they got they got a plate on the back and they got all the safety stuff. So there was
that educational piece. I think there's a couple other pieces that are have come. We've talked about one, you know, can we encourage it more by having parking spaces for it? And we'd have to obviously look at our parking code and I I know Jay brought something at some
point. We discussed it. I forget the outcome of it. The other part of it is this mobility plan. this bigger big big picture mobility plan which is you know widen our sidewalks to you know 10 ft and you know make our sidewalk so
you're getting golf carts off of the the low speed vehicles off the roads and you're you know creating this golf cart community kind of like seaside or something like that right um that's a huge huge huge initiative um to make those sidewalks 10 ft and you know if if
obviously if council wants to look at that, you know, we'd have to really start putting together plans and it' be a very long-term initiative to do that. So, um, in my mind, that's when when Patrick brought that up and I'm sure that we had those conversation, uh, when we were talking, but in my mind, those
are some of the things that we'd have to consider is, you know, the codes for for golf carts. Um, and then, you know, obviously the the sidewalks for golf carts. Um, we do allow for them. I think the state just changed the law which allows golf carts to to transverse over
like the F dot the F dot rideway like basically you can get from one side to the other but you can't drive down US1 because the sidewalks aren't aren't 10 ft. So you can't put a golf cart on there and you can't drive them on US1
because the speed limit is too much. So in squesta is very limited what we can do with golf carts and where we can go. I mean so even if we made all of our sidewalks 10 ft like you really can't drive down US1 which is where all of our commercial traffic's at. If I
mean I I don't disagree but what if we rephase Linear Park and put a 10 10 foot sidewalk there to go along linear park all the way to county line. What if we did county line had a had a 10- foot sidewalk there? We can pretty much get
anywhere at that point. And then if we can get through Jalona and do get through Jalona on a golf cart, then get to the beach. I mean, we could probably figure out a way to do this. >> Yeah. County line not being ours and BLM not being ours. I mean, yeah. I mean, that would be the how we do some of
that. Um, but isn't it wouldn't be the intent like if you and I'm just asking so I'm not, you know, not trying to start any argument, but your intent would be like if I want to be at the country club and I want to go eat at a restaurant, I want to take that my golf cart from my house to um
>> E let's say EVO just for the sake of, you know, they're well known. How do you get how do you get down US1? >> I need to get linear park and then they can do it. But if I I >> How would linear at park help us? >> Because then I go all Dixie and I cut across the crosswalk,
get me into Publix, which gets me in EVO. Evo >> Evo is not in public shopping center though, is it? >> No, it's not. You're right. >> Is there a cutthrough behind the church? >> You can get to most of Plazas. You could get to Publix and then >> um the HomeGoods and the Hognappers Plaza, which is, you know, the the Evo
Plaza will be left out basically. But when we talked about this, my one concern too is um with promoting it, even though we can um cross US1, is um if a if someone runs
a red light on US1 and a golf cart gets hit >> anywhere, >> anywhere, but especially on US one, you know, people 50 55 plus down US1. So that was my biggest concern. we start encouraging all um the crossing of US1
that you could have really a huge fatality >> uh type accident like you could on the other intersections but that one I mean yeah someone runs a red light um so I remember thinking like everything was
the US one like make it happen kind of thing but I Jay I can't was it in the mobility plans I thought we had talked about like a pilot program with one of the shopping centers that was west of US1 to put some like golf cart parking
there to see how it was utilized. >> We talked about the program at the rec center at the wreck on on do we talked about doing a project over there and I don't maybe you know what happened with that one. >> Yeah, there's two different things. There's uh I pitched an idea at a
workshop to you where we would give people um they'd be able to count golf cart spaces for the required car parking spaces in commercial plazas. And so you can usually do I think three golf cart spaces equals two regular spaces. So it makes it easy if someone wanted to put 10 or 15 golf cart parking spaces in
there. They could be more efficient. It could maybe let people have more outdoor seating area. Um and I pitched that to you all. I think you didn't really go for it because you you didn't like people driving across US1 on their golf cart. But then the other idea that that Jeremy's talking about is um I've gotten
with Greg and he's okay with us restriping a few spaces over at Constitution Park as a little test run where we can actually get maybe three spaces at the entrance as like golf cart spaces and then marking them and putting a sign up saying golf cart parking only
and just seeing how heavily those are used. And if those are used heavily, there's a few spots we can actually add over there that aren't even being used as car parking spaces, and we can maybe get like six or seven golf cart parking spaces over there. So, we're working on doing that. Um, and it's it's probably
something we can do pretty easily, especially if everyone's on board with it. >> Well, I don't I don't know if I was just really stretching when I thought of this one or not, cuz uh but I do think it's cool. There's obviously a lot more. There's stuff on that we've talked about
far more important than this, but I think as far as the community character, it would be very cool. >> Is it in the mobility plan though? So would that I mean could we put that would that >> Yeah, in the mobility plan there was a few ideas about incentivizing golf car
parking which was to do the reduction of or to allow them to count as required parking spaces. And then um I can't remember which other ones there were, but there were some ideas of making it a more of a golf cart friendly community. The issue is we can't you can't get them across
um the bridge. So take it back. So golf carts cannot go across the bridge. Low speed vehicles can go across the bridge. So that was so that was the idea in the mobility plan was to make it more of a low-speed vehicle friendly community because you can take a
low-speed vehicle everywhere in Tquesta except >> is it old was old? >> Yeah, it's 48. Yeah. So anything but Old Dixie and US1 you can take a golf cart to >> road county line. >> Yeah. You couldn't get to Questa Park technically unless you widen the
>> roadside. Could is counting line's not 40 m per hour, is it? >> Mhm. >> Oh jeez, it is. That should not be. >> I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure county line's in that category where we can't. >> I just remember we couldn't figure out a way to get to Quest Park. >> I thought I Jeremy I think county line might be 35 cuz I feel like we had that
on our list. >> Okay. >> Well, we can revisit that. >> You could to go down Riverside, but that only accommodates a part of Quest and all to Questa if they want to get to park. So I guess for the sake of this, do we want to have an initiative for
golf cart and or just want to come back as a workshop and talk about what our options are? I mean, we don't have to decide that today unless you guys want to make an initiative and we can >> I think we put it under the mobility plan because some of that stuff is in the mobility plan. That would just that
would be um connect places and pathways. It would kind of fall under that. >> Yeah. Yeah. I don't think it needs to be like a separate separate initiative, but I Okay. Okay. Mayor, I think you brought up county awareness on issues >> because one of the questions which I
think were a lot of our randoms up here were emerged from us answering these questions. I think there was a question here. Yeah, it was the question was um asked of us is the policy or legislative
issues. Are there any policy issues or legislative priorities a village should evaluate or advocate for? And my two top ones cuz I feel like they, you know, really affect us. They all affect us when the state preempts us. So I think these ones are important to our
community too is um you know protecting our fiscal autonomy but then also any comp plan comp plan development preeemptions are a real big one major one to us you know our community doesn't like it when the state puts preeemptions on us that allows more density and height or whatever the case may be.
So, in answering that question, I was like, is that something we, you know, want to make sure that these items that our lobbyists stay on top of? And then, you know, there's been some county initiatives that could impact us. Do we, you know, do we need to start paying more attention to the
county, too? Again, I don't know if it's something to add on here. It was just one of the questions that were asked of us and that that those are my thoughts and I think it's something important that we have to be thinking of and doing every year from an advocating standpoint and and again
it's awareness too. >> Sorry, was there a question? >> Sorry. >> No, I mean I think just >> the same reading same time >> generally something we should just naturally be doing every year. And again I only put it down because it was one of our questions. I I you know and I do follow county the best I can because
they're a little bananas sometimes not to me >> besides fiscal autonomy and comp plan and development preeemptions any any other top priorities you think for us that we think our lobby should stay on top of because even if we don't add it as initiative I think it's good feedback
for Jeremy if you know we finish this session and think about next session like they're all all the preeemptions. Sometimes there's good, but a lot of them affect us negatively. But I just I think of the ones that our community
really seems to, you know, not be happy about. And those are the two >> thinking of why are we here? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Those are the ones I'm really concerned about. >> Any other topics or those the big ones? and the lobbyist u we usually have them
come in you know Augustish for presentation and and at that point we can task them with things so if there's items that start to get rumblings again after this session and start going in next we can task the lobbyist with at that point.
>> Sounds like a plan. >> Mhm. I think two of those three are Miss Brandon. >> Thanks. >> Does anyone have any questions? >> I don't think there's any initiative per se. I think she, you know, I used I
don't want to paraphrase. >> They're not initiatives again. They're just Do you get feedback that it feels like that >> sometimes? >> The second one. >> Two years ago, especially. >> Which one? >> Yep. The second one. >> Especially like two years ago. And then like village.
>> What was it? I would love >> it was the grass police. >> Grass police? >> During the drought. Just little things. Um village relationships. Again, village staff has been great. Um very approachable. Just keeping that
relationship with residents. and then at events um because we're here to serve them. Even staff is here to serve them. So just keeping that customer service level up and even if it's not a a great complaint or feedback coming in, just
keep that relationship going because that's how we're going to find solutions. >> Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what the last >> the last one was mine. Just making sure. >> Yeah. Remember I agree with the survey and aligning it with which the feedback.
>> All right. So now is the time where you guys would uh rank and score these. You get three. It's on the last page or back page. You get three A's, three B's, and as many C's as you want, but only one C per item. Um and so based on that, we
will score these. and highest score is the top priority and you know so on and so forth. >> Your neck >> ah >> and please put your name on the top. They are public record and I know last year we had a couple records asking for
each individual's ranking. So >> look at you trying to get >> seriously. There's a fire drill 3 32 28 mil. It's got my name on it. >> So we're allowed three A's. >> Three A's, three B's, and as many C's as
you want, but only one C per item. >> Only one. So three only three C's, >> huh? Only three C's, right? There three. >> No, unlimited C's. >> You can put you can put a C on all the rest of them if you want. Like all the ones you don't do, but there may be some you're like, I don't I don't really want
to give it any points. So I can do no for that. Three A's, three B's, unlimited C's. >> Okay. >> This is the scoring >> X. >> That's the scoring on top, right? This is the scoring. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Score herself. Would you say? Huh?
>> No. Lori, you scores it. What would you say? A firework. >> I know. There's after me, too. Yeah. >> Have a plan. No, I don't. >> I think >> Oh man, I already got A's.
What's going on? And just to be crystal clear in the second one, beautifification of old Dixie. does not include the FC right away beautifification. Those are two completely separate. >> Okay. >> One's in the road, one is right away.
Okay. So hard. It is hard, right? Like they're all important. All right, I think So, did you just pick one C per group or you put C's on everything else? >> I put C's and everything else. I picked
three A's, three B's, and everything else is C. >> I had two nose. sugar. Those are actually I don't know if it's They like to eat. Yeah. >> Okay. Where is it?
I want to make sure everyone knows what we're thinking about. >> Oh, you need an extra sheet? No, I just it was hard to count because >> you pull up your message about
>> we should be able to priorities. >> I hope so. >> We still got to >> Okay, so >> that doesn't >> Oh my gosh, I wrote the wrong >> when I open it like sync, don't sync. I know. It's like a bunch of questions which I've never >> There's a bunch of stuff on my desktop
for I'm not touching it. >> If it's working, it's working. I still need it alone. That space study should be ready. I'm not sure that >> space should be
taking that other off. Okay. Thank you. >> The one for this building. >> Whole thing. >> Oh, everything. Oh, good. So, fun fact, if you guys went to I muted it to if you went to the concert that oyster thing, a lot of
people going to the Drill holes in right by the gate. What's going on here? Pretty good turn. >> Pretty well attended. I mean, was there after 6:30? I was only there,
>> but I mean, it was pretty well attended when I was there. >> Yeah, music was great. I said it was working after >> it was a long weekend like >> you guys got put on the map yesterday. >> I know that was exciting.
Alist really good. >> Look at you got to get up and put on the map. >> Did you see they won the first judges award? The very first. Did you watch it? >> Yes, the awards. Yes. I just missed the number cuz I was trying to address. >> I don't know if they weren't expecting to interrupt, but they were um the girls
were all in the very very backstage and Victoria's sister was up and audience and the very first board like two um silence we're all yelling in front audience stand up stand up finally like all five
of their heads up. Okay. Sometimes like our little >> seem to like go up go up. It was so funny. You can tell they're all nervous standing up. They were just That was our first time getting up like that.
>> I was so like if you listen if they call your name, get up. This is what you say. >> Dude, that guy talked real fast, though. >> Well, that was the thing. And like the first time he said something, they were silent. I was laughing. I don't I don't even know what you just said. >> We have our staff like that.
But I appreciated his >> I know. So that everyone was to be like, "Yeah, we're getting through it." >> It was great. >> Yeah. >> 100 per section. >> Per section.
>> Look at those numbers. You go from 501 to 59. How many did you guys win? Did your >> count? >> Did you solo? >> Yeah, she got five stars and top placement top 10.
Just do your best. >> Yep. We'll have to see. But we have >> Oh, you like the You weren't the um the last one I saw. >> Yeah, you have
a group of five. That's it. >> It's just 911. >> But the large group >> Yeah. What's that? That wasn't the large where it has to be a minimum of three people. >> It's a line because it's a certain number of people. >> Oh, okay.
>> And it has mixed pages. >> Yeah. >> Did you watch the one that was like 11? They were like >> Was it like the copper tone costume? >> It was like goldie brown.
>> It was so good. >> I love it. So good. There was a boy yesterday. >> I just wonder where they had all those. >> I didn't go down. >> We know their parents. I think they
last they had one every single day. >> You're working so hard. Hey Kyle, also on that that bill that transparency bill like we have to post all salaries, everybody's salary. >> I mean, no problem for transparency
standpoint, but >> people don't want to see their I mean they don't want to see their salaries, right? >> I think I think it says YouTube quarterly. >> We have so every quarter we have to combine all this stuff and post it and put it on the website. >> Did you see like worse news?
>> I did see that. But hey, hey, in in all honesty though, >> they do a utility there. So they do electricity. I don't want to electricity. It's probably worth the extra. >> I just go back to my
dad was like all I remember is just what still to this day. But even on that computer >> I was like, "Hey, that's a block from my dad."
>> And the guy was just like, "Wow, safety." Number one, I think I'm not going to trade that or anything. I guess we're all Did you guys enjoy this? It was fun.
>> I heard it was awesome. Oh wow. too long. >> Most people >> I'm just curious how people It's a very European island. I would not suggest going there for Christmas break. It was
>> crazy. >> Oh my gosh. Like every place is a for dinner. They do not take reservations. >> St. Arman St. Ar. >> This is cool. It's like spoke like everything circles like it's a very
>> interestingly laid out city. You guys are going to go to nationals for that. I'm assuming you guys got a gold ticket at some point. >> They did. We actually got like two >> but they're for group numbers. >> That's so you get to go for that dance.
>> So depend or so it depends on how they set the competition sometimes like Jine does it where they'll have the competition for the national winners or the regional winners but then they'll do a summer competition. So that way people do >> and so that's why volleyball because
it's a group so the whole group has to go >> but then it's just >> because they're never near. She got a plane >> driving. >> Oh, really? >> South Carolina if it's in summer
vacation. >> Kid and parent two tickets. You got to measure. >> We had a big one. You want more? tease depending what she kind of circle she's in. But >> as long as we're having fun, >> I don't know what happened to the video.
We don't think we need anymore. Um, so couple ties, but we we formulated the top top group. So number one was um safeguard and invest critical
water infrastructure high quality system. Two tied for two exactly the same A's and exactly the same B's. Um one was consider remebrance park phase three and the other one was develop future
master facilities plan and then two tied for three. It looks like um it looks like the top one which had the more more of the A's would have been to Questa Park redevelopment and then also
tied for it was beautifification of old Dixie and then a close fourth if you count those ties. Um the next one down was nonadvoreum assessment and kind of going through that process to see what that looks
like. After that, it's it goes it drops down pretty pretty quick. Um um and we'll just go through them, but the rest of them are just fives and sixes. Those were all like double digits. So, um we'll what we'll do is we'll give you guys the official list,
send that out to council. Um but we will bring that back to count this whole thing back to council at probably the May meeting. It'll have it prioritized and then you guys can vote on it. >> Cool. Good. Great. All right.
>> Well done. >> All right. And just for are we live? No. Just for record, um I would take public comment at the close of the meeting, but there is no public comment here or no one from the public to comment here. With that, can I get a motion to adjurnn? >> Motion. >> Second. All in favor?
>> I just like that. >> Boom. Me too. You're right, man.