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regulation. >> Good evening everybody. Welcome to the city of Titusville City Council regular meeting December 9th, 2025 at 6:30. Call this meeting to order. For our invocation, I'd like to welcome up Pastor Paul from Calvary Chapel,
Titusville to give the invocation. >> It's a pleasure to pray over these meetings and for our community. Always like to start with something that Jesus said. It's a good place to start. These things I have spoken to you, says in the Gospel of John, while being present with you, but the helper, the Holy Spirit,
will come whom the Father will send in my name will teach you all things and bring you remembrance of all things that I said to you. Peace I leave with you, my peace I give to you, not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be
troubled, neither let it be afraid. So Lord, as we come together as city and city council, as leaders and citizens, Lord, we just pray your Holy Spirit uh be the guiding tempo, the wisdom, the heart, and the peace as things are
discussed, as decisions are made. Lord, we seek your wisdom. We Lord, we just seek your presence during this meeting. In Jesus mighty name we pray. Amen. >> Amen. Thank you. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance.
To the flag of the United States of America and to the stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you very much. One housekeeping
item for all those in attendance that wish to speak on item 9A, Gemini Lakes, aka Royal Oak. uh that item has been pulled from the agenda for the applicant's request and they are going back to the community and they will readvertise uh when they're coming back
before planning and zoning and city council. So that item will not be heard this evening. Member Nelson, would you like to make a motion? Move to approve the minutes of the city council meetings on October
28th, November 11th, and the special meeting on November 13th, 2025. >> Second. >> I have a motion, I have a second. Any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously.
Thank you very much, city manager. >> Good evening, mayor, vice mayor, and city council. Uh the next item is item five, special recognitions and presentations. And 5A, the employee of the month for November 2025 could not
make it. So we'd like to go ahead and reschedule that for the December or the January meeting at which point we'll both do both November and uh December's employees of the month. Moving on to 5B is the
Titusville Farmington, the TIFFA uh LLC fiscal year 2026 budget and fiscal year 2027 pro-former projections. And we will have a presentation by the city's uh representative, Mr. Jim Ball.
Turn this on. Right. >> Mayor, Vice Mayor, members of council. Uh the entire uh TIFF of budget in detail is included in your agenda packet and we're going to be happy to answer any
questions that you may have regarding the regarding the numbers in that. But the managers were interested in providing an update. Uh now that the wellfield's 10 years old uh in full operation, we're beginning to see some
new uh impacts on uh the operations and the in driving the budget that we'd like to be sure that you have some insight into. I'll start with just a few fast facts about area 4, the area for wellfield. Uh
just as a refresher, area 4 provides approximately 57% of Titusf Falls portable water uh demand delivering up to 2.75 million gallons daily drawing from the upper Floridaan aquifer.
Uh it is the only wellfield uh that the city has as a source that is uh pro providing water from the Florida aquifer. The other well fields are surficial uh aquifer. Um
we have in area 4 a total of 15 production wells. It's located in the northwest corner of Bard County. The wellfield was constructed by the partners and that is Titusville and Farmington uh by the partner shared investment that
is it was 5050. So, TIFFA was created in 2010 as the entity that would facilitate the permitting, design, construction, and operation of area 4. Titusville Water Resources uh department is responsible for day-to-day operations.
The wellfield became fully operational in 2016. Phase one came online in 2012. Phase two was completed in 2016, which is when I came on board as your representative. the area for wellfield operational
influences the things that uh we think it's important for you to have some some insight into um it is driven by the remote location largely the remote location of area 4 increases its vulnerability to FPL power
outages and we do have frequent outages most of them very short in duration but uh what's more of concern are the the extended ed power outages that can occur uh in conjunction with storm events.
Access for maintenance, monitoring, and standby power is significantly impeded during periods of high rainfall. We did a TIFFA sustainability study uh to assess the risk to operations during
power losses. And the outcome of that study just told us what we already had some knowledge about and that's that continued reliance on the city's portable generators for backup power uh risk loss of all area 4 water production
during a storm event for a time that is indeterminate depending on how long it is before FPL can restore power and how long it might be before city uh crews can get out to to refuel the generators.
Permanent on-site generators would ensure continuous power, improve safety for the city's uh crews and equipment, and reduce unnecessary operating cost. The age of the wells uh
and pumping equipment is requiring replacement of critical parts, an increased level of preventative inspections and maintenance and rehabilitation of of wells as needed to ensure that they have sustainable flow
rates that can let us meet the 2.75 million gallons a day. So, just a couple of quick examples. Uh we're we did this past year uh replace device um on the oldest six wells that's intended to help
regulate the amount of power those motors draw to be to get the most efficiency out of them as we can and keep electric power consumption as low as we can. Those were fabricated in-house by the city of Titusville and
uh have been installed uh in the first six of the wells. We're going to continue that in the coming year and then uh beyond. We also uh replaced a component in the oldest six wells uh that were the uh or we are
going to be replacing in in all the wells the com a component in the control boxes that speaks back to the city's control center and provides the instrumentation for monitoring and control of the wells remotely
this coming year and it's in the budget uh will be video logging of the seven wells of seven wells in 2026 with the other eight being done in 2027. Uh that video logging will inspect the inside of the casings of the wells.
We'll determine if there's been any uh anything going on within the casing that is uh requiring some uh preventative maintenance or possibly even repair. So these are the kinds of things that
are driving uh the budget. The highlights that we wanted to give you is that the the TIFFA managers have reviewed and approved an FY2026 budget that's before you uh for your approval. It's based on a 5% increase in the rate per thousand
gallons going up from $1.29 per thousand to $135. um this past FY2025 budget and FY26 are uh showing the the largest increases
we have seen in the 10year uh period. Um again they're driven by the increase in maintenance and repair costs that are being incurred by the city as it operates TIFFA. Um those costs are all reimburseable uh by TIFFA in the coming
year after they're incurred. uh we're we're seeing the need to replace critical components and also to replenish components with spares so that we have them on hand uh if we have a failed component out in the
field. Uh the budget also includes what I'll go into a little more detail as a capital item is the purchase and installation of automatic transfer switches on three of the wells. These automatic transfer switches will function um in conjunction with the
portable generators as long as we still have to use those three uh in order to automatically switch over from FPL power when it goes off to on-site power using the generators with uh in the absence of
those uh devices, city crews have to go out pre-stage the generators and power them up well in advance of a storm's predicted impact on on the area because they won't be able to get out there once the storm, you know, reaches a certain
uh level. So, you begin burning your fuel, you begin running the generators, and in fact, um it might not have been necessary depending on what happens with the storm, or you you might run out sooner because you had to start them
early. So the automatic transfer switches u are a are an interim step to help reduce our risk on that. We we uh are as you'll see we're going to recommend that we go um to a a system
where we are going to have on-site generators but that was we weren't prepared to present that to you yet in this year's budget. We also are anticipating an increase in the cost of property and liability insurance. That should be no surprise. It's it's happened every year. We're
doing the best we can to keep a lid on that. We won't know what those rates are until April. And uh there's an anticipated increase in electrical power service by FPL. So the point of the of the chart uh here is from 2016 these
first 10 years of full operation uh the rate per thousand gallons has been pretty consistent uh mostly driven uh by you know some increase in electrical power cost and in uh and in u
property and liability insurance. But now you see in 202 2025 uh a 12% increase over the previous year and the budget you have before you for 2026 is a 5% increase over 2025.
One of the things that's in the budget for this year is a capital expenditure not to exceed $60,000 uh to install those three switch gears. Um, most of the other things we've talked about or component parts and such
are done under the operations and repair line of the budget, but uh the the automatic switch gears are going to be a capital expenditure expenditure, excuse me. And that'll be the first capital
expenditure on the well fields since they were completed in 2016. uh that would be funded as called for in the DIA LLC operating agreement for capital upgrades, replacements, or other permanent improvements
uh and folded into the existing base of the member funding that was required to construct area 4, which was um $11 million. The TIFFA is developing uh detailed cost estimates to install on-site generators
for seven of our 15 wells. This was highly recommended and identified as the solution that is best and really the only solution to the risk we're facing for extended power outages. Uh storms
seem to be getting more intense. Uh you never know. We were very fortunate this year, but we're we're one terrible storm away from losing uh the wellfield's uh production capability for some unknown amount of time. Now, the city
can can go to some emergency measures to make that up, but what we'd like to be able to do is install these uh generators on seven of the wells and automatic uh switch gears so that they
like your home that may have a gener as soon as FPL power goes off uh it it cranks on the generator. We can have a larger amount of on-site storage of fuel. So there's not the concern that you're going to run out uh during the
during the storm event. So since this risk reduction upgrade to area 4 is going to require an additional capital u u investment from the partners expects to come back to you sometime
later this year with a budget amendment request. So what you'll see in the 2027 proforma um the the caution on that number is that it's we we expect that to probably go up for us to come back once
we can present to you what the what the actual u need is for that capital. The capital um the capital investment that will be made this year in 2026 is $60,000 which will be split between the
partners 30 from Titusville 30 from Farmington. So, the requested actions for the council will be to adopt the FY2026 TIFA LLC budget, consent to the additional
60,000 capital contribution shared 50/50 by the members um so that we can proceed with the installation of the three automatic transfer switches on three wells and authorize the mayor to execute uh the consent of members.
Uh Kevin's going to give you a couple of slides related to how area 4 fits into the big picture of the city's water supply. >> All right. So, as Jim mentioned, this is just a recap of the last 12 months of our raw water supply. Uh the fully city-
owned wells in area two and three supplied little a little less than 730 million gallons last year where area four came in around 993 million gallons. So that was the breakdown between 57 and 42 for our raw water supply. And then just pushing that forward to
our finished water. Obviously our for water gets treated by our water plant and distributed out. That pushes up to about 98% of our water was city of Tyville supplied between TIFFA and air two and three treated by the city where 29 million gallons came from the city of
Cocoa. We do have a standing agreement. We pay for three million gallons a month whether we use it or not. We did come in under that. There's two months of the year we don't pull anything from Coco when they're dosing their system or we are dosing ours. We can't mix the water except in an emergency. So that's the
differential while we fall below the the 36 million gallons. But around 1.7 billion gallons produced uh of finished water between the two sources. So one of the tiff impact on our budget is we do get revenue back from TIFFA. When we do our O andM, we generate a
revenue back the year after and then we also get a member distribution which is a share of the TIFFA uh money collected above a reserve of a half million dollars is held by TIFFA itself. So if you factor both of those in and including our TIFFA water projections around 1.4 million the the effective
rate drops to about 93 cent per thousand gallons when we factor in our two faces. Also just a note, the member distribution is reduced next year because that is the source of our share of the capital cost is both members are going to reduce their uh profit sharing
essentially to to pay that instead of cutting a check to TIFA. >> And we'll be happy to answer any questions you might have. >> Thank you very much, Vice Mayor Cole. >> Uh my question is not particularly on your request, but on the generators. You
said you were going to have generators for seven of the wells. Uh, is it possible to have a larger generator to do it? I I don't know the economy of it, but I think generators are very important when you think that if our wells go out, we don't have any water.
So, I don't know if the proposal is for individual generators for each well, which I guess would provide us some redundancy. So, we're talking about And what's does any idea what size generator we're talking about? Would it be the
same size as a home generator because you're you're just doing a pump, right? >> Uh the generator would be sized to just that individual. Well, I can't tell you exactly. I don't remember. I mean, we we addressed it in our resiliency study.
>> Okay. We did look at F Power and Light uh does does offer uh you know an opportunity we thought to get the generators and their maintenance and such through Florida Power and Light and just fold all that cost into our
operating budget, but they they basically backed out of offering us that service. >> So, we're looking at all the options. We're not ready yet to put it in front of you, okay? But the reason for seven is so that you can spread uh across the
well field and different wells to fit in the you know fulfill that gap. If if power goes off you might not need to run all seven generators but it gives you the option to to go around so you're not always using the same three wells with the portable gener generator.
>> Thank you. >> Member MCoso. >> Thank you. Um Mr. Ball are you're a volunteer right? I am. >> Okay. I want to thank you. This is a lot and so we appreciate all that you're doing. Um I do have a question. I know that the rate increase will be I mean
obviously it's going to be passed on to the the residents and so um I don't think it's a lot but do you have a number of how much someone will see their bill increase due to the increase charge of the water? >> I think Kevin's probably best answer. >> We won't be changing the bill with this. We factored this budget already into our
rate increases for this year. So there won't be any bill adjustment to this action. >> Okay. Wonderful. Yep. >> Thank you. >> Yeah, the raw raw water is a very very very small percentage of the total city's total water resources budget. >> Member Stokl.
>> Yes. Um, do we anticipate ever coming off of cocoa water? >> It's a small percentage, but I'm just I know we've had it for a while. I don't know what the plans are for the future. So, we've reduced it greatly over the years, but it does serve as an emergency
backup both from flow, water, and sheer pressure. Um, so they have the ability to pressurize our system much higher than we currently run it. So, in a fire situation where our tanks will be exhausted in a matter of hours, that extra pressure gives us an emergency backup. Um, so we we have discussed
talking to them about removing the the cap at 3 million and lowering it down to either pay as you go or something else. But okay, >> it's been years ago was almost 2 million gallons a day. >> So it is lowered to 3 million a month guaranteed to them. But recently they leveled all their wholesale customers to
the same rate. >> So the rate advantages kind of decreased for everyone. We were a lower rate in the past. Now we're level to all their wholesale customers. >> Okay. And then um so we should anticipate a budget amendment coming before us. Um this probably a loaded
question. Do you feel like that with that budget amendment we should be okay for this well field to make sure as you mentioned like the storms are increasing we are get applications for water capacity. I just want to make sure that we're in a good position moving forward.
>> That the whole purpose of the resiliency study was to look for for the best solution to make sure that that wellfield can continue to operate regardless of what happens with FPNL power or the the the inability for our
vehicles to get out there because, you know, it's so saturated they bog down and you just can't get can't get to the to the generators to replenish them. So, yes, we feel very comfortable that if we do um the capital program to install uh
seven on-site generators and storage of the fuel for them, uh that that we'll be in a in a really strong position and eliminate a lot of risk. >> Okay. Thank you. >> We can't tell you what that cost is going to be until we it, you know, we
couldn't throw any numbers at it yet. >> All righty. Thank you very much, sir. really appreciate it. >> Okay, sure thing. >> City manager just point of clarification. They were asking us to approve some stuff, but it says no action as requested. Are we approving? >> You'll be approving it as part of
consent. >> Okay, got it. Is there any cards on this item? >> Okay, I was just confirming. >> All right, thank you very much, city manager. So moving on to the next item is item six, boards and commissions. And
6A is the North Bard County Hospital Board. And the recommended action is to reappoint one regular member to the North Bard County Hospital District Board for a 4-year term to expire on December 31st, 2029. and also to confirm
one member appointed by the Bvard County Board of County Commissioners to the North Bard County Hospital District Board for a four-year term to expire on December 31st, 2029. The term of regular member William Billy Spec expires on
December 31st, 2025, and he has expressed his willingness and desire to continue to serve on this board for a 4-year term to expire on December 31st, 2029. Currently, there are no other applications on file for consideration.
In addition, Miss Billy Fitzgerald was reappointed by the Bvard County Board of County Commissioners on November 18th, 2025 for a 4-year term to expire on December 31st, 2029. And this appointment is subject to confirmation
by the city council. >> Thank you very much, city manager, city clerk. >> Yes, sir. We have a few cards. Stan Johnston. My name is Stan Johnston and I'm a licensed by the state as a professional engineer to protect the health, safety,
and welfare of the people similar to what our hospital is to do. And however, I have approached the uh board of directors of the hospital repeatedly and I'm very disappointed in what
happened is all I asked was for them to support the city to turn off the fountains where people were being sprayed with sewage or piss and poop, however you want to do it. And I never got any response except I got a ridiculous response from Mr. George
Mkhitaryan who's here in the audience. Here's what he said. He said, "Stan, we don't have to do that because all you have to do to go is is like the u uh county health department, St. John's River, Went FT or something. You should
be going to them, not to us. He never discussed it with me because I've been to all those sources and they never would help me." So, in other words, I'm disappointed with our hospital who's so arrogant enough that that they can't even ask our water resources to turn off
the fountains in which I've repeatedly said that the city of Titusville is the only city on this planet that deliberately sprayed women, children, and babies with piss and poop. And it's not a joke at all. As a professional in
the in health, safety, and welfare, it's nonsense. It should have never happened from our hospital to do that. So, I'm not I'm not for any of this re reappointing anybody because I've got all I've got is nonsense from from from the hospital. And then I was told to
leave not only the hospital but even the the parking lot and this is a and the guy told me he said this is not a public hospital. This is a private hospital security guy. So, I'm not pleased with what Mr. Mcarian is doing and the board.
Thank you very much. >> Thank you. City clerk >> Joseph Ash. >> Good evening. I am Joseph Ash. I'm a cardiologist here in town. Um, Parish Medical Center, whether you know it or not, is a one-star hospital. The Center
for Medicare and Medicaid Services does a yearly survey of hospitals in the country. And in 2018, Parish had a three star out of five rating. For the next two years, they had a one-star rating. That's uh poor. For four years, they had
two stars, but now back in 2025, they are back to one star. They can say whatever they want about all their awards and all the accolades that they receive from private institutions. The federal government's best benchmarks
show that they are a onestar hospital. They get two stars on patient satisfaction. This is not acceptable. And the reason is the reason is is because they have an entrenched board of directors. They have directors who have been there for decades.
Of the three city appointments, one is been there for 26 years and another has been there for 24 years. That's Billy Fitzgerald who is up for u confirmation by this board because the uh county commission decided to uh move her on and
keep her in place. You keep getting the same people on the board managing the administration and you will get the same results over and over and over again. Uh as a matter of fact in six of the last eight years parish
has lost money on operations. six of eight years. They've received $36 million in COVID money which has helped keep them uh in operations and they also have uh returns on investment. But their actual lifeblood operations, six out of eight
years they don't make money. There needs to be a change in the board. There needs to be new people on the board and there need to be new people running the hospital. I'm not the only one who thinks that. When I applied at the county commission, I received very
easily hundreds over a hundred, excuse me, over 100 petition signatures from residents over the course of one to two weeks of trying to get signatures. Residents of this community, many love the hospital. God bless them. They're entitled to their opinion. Many people
are not happy with the hospital, and the only way to change the hospital is to change the board. This council has the ability to do that. Thank you. Thank you, city clerk. >> Uh, Milton Pharaoh.
>> Good evening everybody. Milton Pharaoh, 4430 Elliott Avenue, Titusville, Florida. I don't want to be repetitious. I agree with what the last speaker said. I'm going to go one step further and say I
not only agree with it, but I'm here by luck being alive because I was almost lost in this hospital. I had six bad occurrences and it wasn't for the fact that anyone was doing anything wrong. It's it was a
question of management. We we've been having bad management for a long time. We in in this in the real world we don't we don't reward bad bad work. Bad workers are not kept on. People who
don't perform are not kept on. Okay. So I it is not my I just don't understand why we we would want to continue keeping the same people on when we've had this kind of po performance. And this this goes for the director as
well. It is unheard of in animals annals of of a hospital administration that an administrator earns more than the president of the United States. And maybe we ought to expose this to
daylight so we can let the people know what's going on. I'm going to ask this council to deny this request and to go against the Bvard Commission which did us an injustice. The Bvard Commission hurt every
individual in this city. My last procedure that I had, I was compelled to travel many miles away because I didn't want to come back in the coffin. Do not honor this request.
Please change your direction. Continuity to continue bad behavior is wrong. Thank you. Thank you, sir. City clerk. >> I can't hear you. No more cards. City
council. >> Member Mscoso. >> Yeah. I I would just like to say um I am very much for term limits on these boards. We have people serving and I would agree 20 years uh for for and I think there is something to say about
experience. Um I I know Mr. Spec has only been on for four years and I you know I think he I think it'd be good for him to continue. Miss Fitzgerald has been on for quite a long time and I know from the county commission there were a lot of applicants um many who were
qualified as well. And so, um, I do think there is something to say for experience, but there's also something to say for, um, new people coming on with, um, different ideas. >> Member Nelson. >> Um, Mr. Mkhitaryian is here. I think we
should let him speak if he wants to. >> No. No. Um, I I tend to agree with Megan that some of the people that have been on board have been there forever. I think
Billy has only been there for a couple years if I remember right. >> Can I just point of order? This is going to get real confusing because they're both named Billy. >> Oh, they use their last name, please. >> I think Mr. Spec has only been there for
a couple of years, five years, four years. Um, but I do think that periodically we do need to change it up because it allows people to come in, ask different questions, try to figure out
um if there are other other things that can be done. So, I tend to agree with >> Vice Mayor Cole. >> I do agree with the term limits, although I'm one that's been on the board for 25 years. So, but my point to
this is if people want to be on the board, they have to apply. I mean, if no one applies as Billy Spec has for our appointment, we have no other to pull from. So, you
know, people can talk about about how we should look at the individual board appointments. While I don't disagree that we need to have term limits on them, uh if no one applies for them, it it does our hands are tied as far as
what we could do. So, you know, if you have good people that want to be on the board, they have to apply to be on the board. So, uh that's it. >> Member Nelson. So question uh were there
multiple candidates for the county position >> county seat? >> I'm not aware >> there were six. >> There were six. >> That was for two positions. >> Oh, okay. >> For two. Yeah.
>> So my thought would be to affirm Billy Spec and potentially Billy Fitzgerald asked for a different person.
>> She was >> affirm Billy Spec. I'm sorry. >> I was going to clarify for him. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Confirm spec reject Fitzgerald was member Nelson's viewpoint, but no motion has been made at this point. >> And I feel bad. I love her as a person,
but I think it would be good to have new blood. But I don't >> Thank you, Nelson. Vice Mayor Cole, one second. >> Member Stokel has her her light up. >> Yeah. Can I I have a clarifying question. Um there were two spots that
the county was appointing for and we're getting one. So, how does that work? >> So, it's a nine person board. Three the county appoints independently that don't come before us. We appoint and three the county appoints with our confirmation. >> Okay. So, while there was six spots,
potentially six applications that the county reviewed, there was two spots that they were technically appointed for, one needed our confirmation. >> Okay. And then I tend to agree with member Nelson. If we I I say we let Billy um get back on there and then
maybe we look at something with our code to see about term limits for some of these boards. um moving forward >> as I believe that this is uh probably big in our local agreement. I'm sure we'd have to have the the county support on that. So, um maybe during our reports
later today, we can discuss that with the city manager and what that could look like in terms of communication with the county. Vice Mayor Cole. >> Well, um just to reiterate something that Joe Lynn said, we we're confirming some. So, if we do not appoint Billy,
we've got to go back to the county commission >> to uh to do that. I'm not sure. I agree with uh council person stokal that we approve Billy but we do look at the
>> uh ter please use last names because I don't know you're talking >> I that we approve Billy Fitzgerald and Billy Spec but we do look at the term limits I think Mr. Mc Mitarian wanted to say something >> I I'll call on Mr. Mcarian in a second
member Nelson. Okay, I can I can deal with that. Um, I am concerned because Billy has been on that board forever and I would like to see us get some
younger, newer people, younger than us. >> Us. Oh, you put Okay, you and me. >> Okay. Younger than Herman. >> That's a low bar. >> All right, Mr. McTarren, did you have something you like to add?
Good evening. Um, couple points of clarification. The um, appointment slashreappointment process is not a local ordinance. It is a state law. The appointment and reappointment of
members of the North Bard County Hospital District is outlined in the hospital's enabling legislation and has been that way for 22 years. Um so to change it requires legislative
action um in Tallahassee. two. Up until this year, there have not been any applicants other than one for each of the positions since 2001.
So these people rather than being condemned for serving long tenures on the hospital board should be patted on the back because they have been the only ones since 2001 to step up. Now, of the three
board reappoints, um, one individual, Morin RP, um, did retire from the board and she was replaced by what you all appear to be categorizing as a younger board member, Melissa Luggo. And that
left the other two that the county commission one made recommendation to you and that's Miss Billy Fitzgerald who has been on the board for 20 plus years brings a wealth of knowledge as well as
her experience with the um housing authority. Um and again this is the first year that has there has been another applicant uh for the same position and then Mr. Billy Spect as we have
already heard from the city manager is the only candidate for the position. So while everybody throws out these great ideas change people they've been on too long. Why don't we pat these folks on the back and say thanks. I know it's
hard for both the city, all the cities as well as the county to find people that want to volunteer their time and attention and talent to boards and advisory boards and commissions. Um so
again first year since 2001 that we have had multiple candidates and I can go through all those candidates and give you all my wealth of knowledge and 40 plus years of healthc care experience
and tell you why they are not qualified including one individual who stood up here just a few minutes ago. um be happy to do that. Although I don't think he would want us to try to ruin even further than he has already his his
physician practice here in town. But I would love to have the time if you give it to me to tell you why the others don't qualify. I appreciate it, Mr. McIntian, but I I think that'll that'll be good. Y um and thank you for clarifying the the Florida
statute because again I I know it's a our hospital. public hospital, North Bard Hospital District, and we kind of work together between the city and county to to do those type of things. Um, so obviously state legislation is a little much harder to change. Uh, with
that being said, uh, we as a board only have one applicant, okay? Uh, the county commission had possibly several and the county commission decided on that person. So, that's really what's on the table is whether we confirm or deny that
person. Member Nelson, >> I would say Mr. McTarion has a point because if people people complain all they want, but if they're not willing to step up, it cause it's a problem.
So, my motion would be to reappoint uh Billy Spec as a regular member to the hospital district board for a new four-year term and confirm Billy Fitzgerald um to the North Bard County Hospital
District Board for a new four-year term and say that we appreciate them serving because the rest of us aren't going to serve for bless for >> sorry a point of clarification. Can we
do two motions? >> Well, the motion is on the floor so it depends on if it gets a second. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> So there's a motion and a second. Uh now for discussion what what would your recommendation be? >> Yeah, I feel like those are two separate appointments. One is to confirm and then
one is to uh reappoint. And so I think they should be two different motions. Well, the motion is made. It depends on if the motioner is going to decide to change it or not. >> I don't have a problem with changing it.
Um to confirm Billy Spec, that would be the first motion. >> So, I'll second that. >> All right. So, I have a motion. I have a second. Any further discussion on the motion to reappoint Miss Respect to the North Road Hospital District Board?
Seeing none, all those in favor say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. >> And then the second motion would be to affirm the appointment of Billy Fitzgerald to the hospital board. >> Second. >> I have a motion and I have a second. Any
further discussion? Member Stokl, did you have further discussion? >> Yeah, I was just going to say um I'll be voting in favor of this and I do know Billy Fitzgerald. I think she does a great job and I think as Mr. Mkhitaryan brought up. I think if our desire is to have newer people or younger people, I
don't like to necessarily use the term younger, but give other people a chance to get involved. I think that really does rely on us to kind of go out there and try to um see if there's a willingness, but I mean since 2001, if there haven't been applications, um I I understand that side as well. So,
>> and I think it I'm sorry, >> member Nelson, >> sorry about that. And I think it goes back to when we started and we had no applications for any board. Um, and we had to go out and beat the bushes and
ask people to apply. So maybe that's what we need to do again. >> We just still just had the one application. So member Mscoso, >> I would agree on the city side. We only had one application, but maybe there
haven't been applications since 2001 in the county. This year, there were five other applications beside Miss uh Billy Fitzgerald. And I I think Miss Fitzgerald is wonderful. So, there were other applications. I don't want that to be lost in this conversation. So, perhaps previously there weren't, this
time there actually were. Um, unfortunately the, you know, maybe to your sugar end, uh, the county chose this person and that's what we have it before us is to confirm or deny. City clerk, call the role, please.
>> Sorry. Member Muscoso, >> no. >> Member Nelson, >> yes. >> Mayor Connors, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cole, >> yes. >> Member Stokel, >> yes. >> Motion carries. Thank you very much, city manager. Next item is 6B, the North Boulevard
Commission on Parks and Recreation. And the recommended action is to appoint one regular member to the North Bard Commission on Parks and Recreation with an unexpired term to expire on August 31st, 2027. There's currently a vacancy for an
unexpired term. There is one application on file for consideration. Miss Laura Whitten has expressed her willingness and desire to serve on this board and she is currently serving as a regular member on the Space Coast Transportation Planning Organization Citizens Advisory
Board and she is here to answer any questions. >> Uh member Soo, do you have something before? >> Just a question regarding the process. Is this one of the um situations where she cannot be on two boards? So if we do appoint her, she would have to give up
her position on the um other board. >> Member Stokel, if I may, these are the board she currently serves on is a county board >> and this is also a county board. So it's not our policy is more city board, >> but I don't know what the county rules are. I I just want to make sure before
we do it that we're not breaking. most part it's uh the difference is that she serves on an advisory board which would be the uh transportation board is considered an advisory board and that would not be in conflict with the uh parks and recck board.
>> Okay, great. Thank you. >> The TPO is kind of treated differently anyway. It's kind of like outside Bard County government in a way. It's kind of weird. All right. Um Laura, would you like to come up and say anything? Okay. Say cler is there any cards?
>> One card. Stan Johnston. >> Stan Johnston. >> Okay. Thank you. All right. Uh uh I'm Stan Johnson and I'm I'm very concerned about what's going on. Uh I had someone approach me. This has got to do with what's going on. approached me uh
Friday and said, "Uh, Stan, this is a big joke what you're doing. You're just you're just a joke." He's a good friend of mine. He said, "You know, nobody listens to you." I said, "Listen to you for for years about what's going on about spraying people uh in our public
parks with what I call sewage. It's just not happening. It never happened. It just so happens someone came to this council meeting uh in November and said, "Hey, you know what? I had a sewage spill on Bell
Terrace." Guess where Bel Terrace goes? Bell Terrace is goes right to the senior center with the with the fountain turns on. So, >> Mr. Johnson, you're not on topic. >> This has to do with what is going on. This is Please don't interrupt me on
this because the senior center is part of Northbard Parks and Recreation. It is property on Bvard County. >> You're cautioned. >> Pardon? >> You're cautioned for being off topic. >> Okay. So, what happened was the the the
fountains were turned on and we had another example of spraying people with with sewage. we had it again and it was I I and Laura Lee and other witnesses and my wife were there. So, so I want
her if she if she if she is going to um uh go along with with uh leaving the fountains turned on like another a number of people are doing. I don't want her there. I want some commitment from her or else she doesn't have my support.
And I know that you are very much against what I said and some other people say, you know, it's just a joke. It's not a joke as far as my profession is professional engineering. I'm supposed to protect the health, safety, and welfare of the people. And I think you are you guys are too. And right now,
four council members are against what I say. Only Megan Mscoso is is uh is in agreement with me. Only person. So, uh that's all I had to share with you. I don't want another person who is who's going to allow the u leaving the fountains turned on when we we know
there's a sewage spill. Thank you. In the ponds. Thank you. That's all. >> Well, back to the matter at hand of appointing uh Laura to the commission on parks and recreation. Member Nelson. >> Can I move to appoint Laura Wooden to
the North River Commission on Parks and Recre? >> Second. >> I have a motion. I have a second. Any further discussion from this board? Seeing none, all those in favor say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Thank you very much. City manager, I
believe we're on petitions and requests, correct? >> Yes, sir. >> Petitions and requests from the public non-aggenda items. >> Stan, this is Stan Johnson. I'm going to say the same thing I said at the last meeting and so but however we have some guests here in the back. You can raise
your hand. Stephen, Mary, and Richard, raise your hand. Okay. They've had their houses flooded at least three times since we've built this uh new dam. And it's pretty pretty serious. And they even lost cars because
the damages they've done. And uh it's it's what I've shared just the last meeting. I shared it. This is not God's fault. This is not the rainfall fault. It's this it's the matter of the city of Tyusville has built these dams. These dams not only not only destroy houses
and your insurance and your ability to have your home homestead not uh flooded or your cars destroyed is that is that we even have in in Baker subdivision destruction of the pavement. You raise the you raise the water table, you
destroy the pavement, you cause erosion of the banks on lake lakefront properties, Lake Morbeca. And and the and this this is millions of dollars that the city is guilty of. And so I asked the question, same question I asked was asked 40 years ago. Same
question. And the question is this is how can anyone legally construct a dam immediate downstream of homes already in the 100year flood plane? And of course the answer that was started in 1985 by council they never got an answer. They asked the question they never got the
answer. That's the same thing that's happening here. I don't get an answer from any PE. And I'm I'm telling you again is that is that so so I'm I'm offering the city I offered St. John's today St. John's River District. I offered him $1,000.
you get any one of your pees to dis dispute me and by golly I'll give you $1,000 otherwise I also know it's not a threat but it's a promise that I will record report them to the Florida Board of Professional Engineers for for disciplinary action same here you can't
get Kevin Cook or anybody else to disagree with me on this any PE what I'm saying is what you're doing is is exactly what I've said before this is what this is an admission of guilt. A mention of guilt of millions of dollars that the
guy the city has already spent and and millions millions of dollars of liability that the city is what you guys think that you're protecting the people. Well, this is not this is supposed to be city is supposed to be a a government of the people, by the people, and for the
people. Instead, right here in this government, we have a government of the city, by the city, and for the city. and you guys are protecting them from dirty lies that have been happening for 40 years. It's not right. It's not right at all.
Okay, Stephen wants to wants to begin talking and then Richard, please raise your please raise the sign. Raise the sign. Okay. That's the sign. There's four There's four dams on this side. >> Thank you, Mr. Johnson. >> Okay. Thank you. Okay, Stephen.
>> Hello, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Steven Hansel. Um, I'm here to tell you what's going on in my place, Titusville, down on Temple Drive.
Stan came up to us the other day and uh, he told us he's going to come here and tell y'all what's going on. >> Mr. Johnson, please don't interrupt. >> Can you hear me now? >> Sorry.
Thank you. All right. Uh, my name is Stephen Hansel. I've been through three floods and with what he's talking about with the sewage and crap, that's actually legit.
It was on the news. You can look it up. They told us not to go outside. Don't walk in it. It's toxic. It killed all the fish in our pond in the back.
What I found out is the elers's home, little little ways down the street was pumping their stuff into ours after we're already flooded, which raised our water level up 6 in.
I mean, we already have kneedeep water and it just keeps on getting higher and higher and higher because they keep on pumping their crap into our streets. It killed all the fish. It stunk up the area. The whole
neighborhood smelled for months. I lost $30,000 something dollars in damage. Two cars. My neighbor lost two cars. And I'm sure he's got $30,000 in damage, too.
It's got to stop. You got to shut this. You got to take this whatever the hell they built there. It's not doing their job. It's not It's not draining the water. It's actually collecting and it it doesn't seep into
the ground. It just stays and floods. Every time it rains, heavy storm, it just gets bad and bad and bad. We're tired of it. Thank you. >> Thank you, sir. >> Petitions and requests from the public
present. >> My name is Richard Austin. >> Sir, can you please keep your sign in the back for our rules? >> I'm sorry. Can you please keep the sign in the back for our rules? >> Okay. Thank you. >> We don't really need it. I was just going to show you where uh Stephen was
talking about. I'm kind of unofficially uh representing the rest of the community. Uh but uh I've lived in this community for quite a while and
uh when I uh when I found out that they were making the uh retention pond, I just, you know, watched as they they did everything. Uh the biggest the biggest discrepancy that
I saw was the fact that they uh actually did build dams up 6 to 8 ft more than uh what was there. We used to have a a a really good I'll call it a
canal, but it was it was a nice deep drainage that always took care of the rain. And when they built the pond, they actually damned it up approximately
8 feet higher than what the drainage ditch was, the original drainage ditch was. And uh so you know that's that's pretty substantial. And uh basically
uh from basically where the uh uh sheriff's office is and the uh senior citizens uh area up there. uh that was also reinforced
uh basically made it the the ponds higher before they could start draining. Well, the biggest problem with all of that is is when you when we get more than uh four or five inches of rain,
uh it doesn't drain quick enough to get rid of all the water. What happens is in the ponds, the ponds drain on two rideaways uh into our community and we've got a
few minor sinkholes going on right now. Uh but uh yeah, as far as damage goes, uh unfortunately my uh insurance company left the state and it's been really difficult to get
any other insurance because my house was built according to u insurance standards before 1960. Happens to be 1959. But uh so unfortunately for that reason,
even though I'm still trying to get insurance, I've lost I'm going to I'm going to conservatively conservatively guess uh $30,000. And that's just in material. That's not included with all
my labor uh where I've had to cut out and dig out stuff and and throw a lot of equipment away. Thank >> Thank you very much, sir. >> You're okay with that? your your time your time time's up. So I >> fine. I just I just want to let you know that the dams
should be and I recommended it when they were uh building it that they be lower, get it closer to what the original uh drainage system was. >> Thank you very much, sir. >> Okay. Thank you.
>> Kevin or Sandy, am I calling you? >> Can you answer their concerns? Excuse one second. So we can review the individual homes with the with the model data that was provided. They did a the consultant did
a pre-post evaluation of the entire infrastructure in the area as part of the lmer the letter map revision for FEMA flood plane uh revisions. In that they showed negligible changes to the flood surfaces of the area. So this is a flood plane area. So they modeled it out
to the 100red-year storm and they demonstrated multiple points along the system all the way back to the M Beck all the way downstream on the Bloody Mary ditch they what they deem to be a negligible change to the flood plane and they issued a new letter a new map of
flood planes. So Temple Drive is a flood plane at 15.3 ft. It will flood in the 100-year storm to that elevation by the models developed by our consultant. Baker subdivision will flood at 17 and change in the same storm event. So yes,
there is upper pool and a lower pool. They are both flood planes in two different areas. But what FEMA determined in the LMA request was that the projects did not significantly change the flood planes. They were negligible less than a few inches and different variations upon the the flood
area and they did a model of the entire basin. But we certainly can take a look at individual problems. it could be a problem with pipe, uh the road drainage, things of that nature that we can take a look at. >> We do have the uh St. John's basin feasibility study that is working through right now in this area as part of that that's looking at reducing um
water that's flowing through that area to the Indian River Lagoon along with historic flooding in that area. So that that we're expecting in about a take another 12 months to get that feasibility study complete, but it is in the works right now. >> Thank you, staff. Member Mscoso.
>> Thank you. And um I will just just to let you know um Mr. Johnson and uh Mr. Cook, we we met this past week and we actually went over this card because I was trying to understand the dams. I'm not an engineer so I you know it says there's four dams and so we were asking
where are the dams and one of the requests that I had is um if Mr. Johnson could give us his recommendations um and so he has done that. He has sent it in and that's something I'm I'm going to sit down with Kevin. So it's not that we have ignored this. Um I'm still
learning how this works. Um but I think it is something we are discussing. So I think they'll look at your individual problem but we we also are going to look at this as well. >> All right. Petitions and request from the public.
>> Dr. Kathleen O Titisville resident commissioners. Thank you for the opportunity to speak this evening. I'm here on the behalf of Royal Oak neighbors. At last week's planning and zoning meeting, Attorney Kim Rosena tabled the Gemini Lakes proposal, saying she wanted more time for citizen input.
I understand the project is not up for a vote tonight and will be delayed until January. So, I want to be clear. I'm not here to argue the merits of the development. That probably belongs in a future hearing. My purpose tonight is to alert the city to a more immediate
concern. The applicant is distributing false and misleading information to the public and has continued to do so even after being notified of such. Residents received a postcard directing them to the Gemini Likes website. However, most
members of the Royal Oak Neighbors board, the best group best positioned to mobilize meaningful citizen input, did not receive it. Those who did visit the website saw misleading images and misleading statements accompanied by an almost unreadable disclaimer. These
statements do not match the current proposal which was submitted by the developer. At the planning and zoning meeting, I specifically requested that the website be taken down until the information was corrected. As of today, that website remains active and the
misleading information is still posted. After my comments, Ms. Rosena contacted me not to correct the record, but to ask I provide a list of the false statements. Let me be clear, identifying and correcting M's information is not the responsibility of the private
citizen. It's the responsibility of the applicant and their professional team and these are not subtle misinformation. The key point I want to emphasize is the developer knew the website contained misleading information and they left it up anyhow. Leaving misinformation in
place is not an oversight. It is a choice and it undermines trust in the public process. Leaving misinformation up also subverts the quasi judicial process under which this council must ultimately vote on the proposal. And
given that their builder, Colton Holmes, previously paid $22.5 million to settle construction defects claims, transparency should be the minimum expectation. Because of the extent of it, I request that the Gemini Lake site be taken down
immediately until every statement is verified by the staff, further review of the project be delayed until the website is corrected, and then have the developer conduct a public information campaign to provide accurate information, and acknowledge the private content was misleading. Thank you for
your time and attention. I respectfully request this statement be entered into the official record and I have copies for all of you on the website uh all of you with the website written on the bottom so you can look at it yourself. Thank you. >> Thank you. Anybody else from petitions or requests
from the public? Non-aggenda items. Good evening. >> Good evening, Mayor Connors, Vice Mayor Cole, council members. Uh my name is Steve Kaine. I'm executive director of Space Tech Partners Incorporated. We're a nonprofit corporation headquartered
here in the city of Titusville. Uh my wife Linda and I have lived here for 37 years. Uh I spent 27 years on the shuttle program at the space center. Uh 25 of those were here in Florida and I kept since uh taken a position at Space
Tech where I've been for the past 14 years. Uh my wife retired from the Florida Department of Corrections after 29 years. We raised five kids here. Uh all went through local schools. I've taught at Eastern Florida State College uh for 10 years in their uh aerospace program as an adjunct instructor.
And uh in 2017, SpaceTech began development of the Space Coast Consortia apprentichip program uh with some employer sponsors that you may know. A Nights Armament Company, Airbus, One Webb Satellites, Rack Space, which is now Beyond Gravity, Rocket Crafters,
which is now via space. Uh and I've provided you with a presentation uh that uh I actually have a thumb drive, too. I can put it up if you'd like, but I can walk you through this. Uh, the apprenticeship that we run has
14 participating employers and we are now the Space Coast ADTC. Uh, we've leveraged the work that we did in the apprenticeship to create this training center now that is in the city of Titusville. And I'd like to walk you through this uh
program for what we've created. I'm also joined by my operations program manager, Mr. Tom Mcola. uh he's here as well. >> Sir, can I just interject for a second? Everybody gets three minutes during this time and I'm afraid you're going to run out of time. Is there a particular ask you have of this board?
>> There is. If you will open to the third page, actually the fourth page. Our ask is we're seeking support from the city of Tusville in the form of an economic development incentive grant for the Space Coast ADTC. that this funding is necessary to meet a
feature of the $ one and a half million dollar grant we received from the Florida legislature in 2023. Uh the feature requires $700,000 in matching funds for that grant. The North Boulevard Economic Development Zone provided 500,000 of that. Uh and we also
have a request into uh it's called the industrial-based analysis and sustainment group within the US Army for the additional $3 million match that uh this grant requires from the federal government. These city funds would be earmarked for
training equipment financing costs over a period of three years. And I I'll add that the uh county grant that we received is a three-year grant as well. It's a reimburseable grant. and a portion of that would also be used for renovation and buildout costs that weren't covered in the original Florida
Commerce grant. So, that's my purpose of coming before you today. >> Well, really appreciate you. Obviously, I've been out there for your ribbon cutting. You know, I I think what you guys are doing is great. Uh we're still working on fine-tuning our economic development incentive program. So, I would just recommend get with Nick and
and go through the process, but we're still building the process. So, you got bear with us a little bit. >> Thank you. >> Yeah, I've talked to Mr. Yeah. And and I'm familiar with with what's going on with that. So, >> thank you. >> Right. Thank you. >> Oh, Siri tried to chime in.
>> Oops, I forgot your card. >> Vicky Conlin, I'd like to have clarification. I understood you say that the item had been pulled about Gemini Lakes in the Royal Oak Golf Course. I'd like clarification of what that means. Does that mean it's tabled or does that mean it's solely withdrawn?
And I know you don't want to answer me, but maybe somebody can. We need clarification. >> Pulled and they're going to find a new date and readvertise it to the community and pay for those new readvertising costs. >> Okay. Because it's been very confusing and probably I I hate to think that the
developer is doing it on purpose, but originally it was to be November, then it was to be December, then it was to be January and a lot of confusion with the public about this plan. Uh, this meeting tonight was advertised as a public hearing and so it it does it require
council to table or just accept the withdrawal, accept the polling? I'm not I'm not sure. That I guess is your councils. Uh, so is there clarification that it will be on the agenda to be voted on January 7th P&Z and January
13th uh for city council or do we know that yet? Say manager mayor, the applicant indicated February 10th would be the hearing. >> They also indicated withdrawing the application completely to be rescheduled. So that includes the P&Z
meeting. So they indicated they would like to have that rescheduled for the 21st of February. >> So yeah, they're just kicking the can down the road and whenever they stick stick it back on there, we'll make them revertise it and communicate with the public. >> So just to make sure I understood what
you said, Brad. So, are we saying the first Wednesday in February PNZ and the sec the second Tuesday city council? >> Their request was to withdraw the application so they can reschedule it for they stated to be the second meeting
in in January for PNZ, the planning and zoning commission on February, I'm sorry, January 21st and then the first meeting for city council in February. >> Okay. >> Just February. >> Thank you. Because we didn't know any of that. How are we supposed to find that
out? I'm not sure. But >> when it's advertised and noticed, >> so we just wait and Okay. And that seems to be a very confusing way to communicate with the residents. Thank you. >> I understand they are going to schedule a community meeting as well. >> And I'm pretty sure they sent an email
like at 1:00 today informing us of that. >> Correct. We just got the email request today. >> Very hard for us to communicate when we just find out ourselves. Anybody else from the petitions and requests from the public non-aggenda items? >> Can I ask a clarifying question with that? >> Yes.
>> Um Brad, can you clarify how much notice does an applicant have to give like in advance? Is it two weeks? And a reason why and I I understand the frustration because I know that there have been posters made, yard signs made with these dates and now I know it's costing a
financial burden to this group. So can you clarify what that requirement is? What what do you mean by notice for the applicant to provide notice to change? >> How do we know? Is it for certain these two dates, February 10th and February 24th? Or if they decide to change it, how much notice do they have to give? I
guess they can cancel it up to the day of by sending an email. >> So when the application is advertised, then it'll be on the agenda in some form. So it could be where it's advertised and then we get closer to date than the public then the application uh just before we publish
the agenda they may ask to withdraw it and at that point we'll have to decide how to handle it and typically what happens is that agenda is item is on the agenda even though they have asked for it to be tabled or moved or whatever that might be and then um like what
happened at your previous another application uh it was just asked of you to make a uh a decision to continue it and then possibly readvertise it. So I I can't give you a good answer other than that once it's advertised and once it's
published then it then it's you see it and then we have to come to you to make a decision. If they pull it before it's advertised and before it's published then it just won't be on the agenda but it's on a different date. >> So technically I guess like we get our agendas on the Thursday prior to Tuesday. So it could in theory be less
than a week that of a potential notice. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. Good evening. My name is Christina Michelle. I stand before you not just to exercise my human right to speak, but to call this city forward. I am here
following the murder of my childhood friend, Gary Thomas, December 30th, 2020. Chamari Charles by Titusville Police Department, February 7th, 2025. The police involved death of David
Riley, February 14th, 2025. And most recently, the overdose of a family member. I am calling for a citizens review board. I am demanding accountability via the firing of Chief John Laauo. Finally,
I am proposing the creation of a public space of remembrance for families who have lost loved ones. First, Titusville needs a citizens review board with real power, not symbolic influence.
Accountability cannot exist if the police are allowed to investigate themselves with no civilian oversight. A citizen review board, an idea publicly refused by Chief John Laauo, made up of
Titusville residents, must have access to records with the authority to make disciplinary as well as policy recommendations. This is not radical. This is reasonable governance in a city where youth are
being sexually abused, harassed, and killed. Second, I am demanding along with more than 1,000 signatures entered on the record on July 8th, 2025 for the firing of John Laauo as chief of police for the
Tisville Police Department. Leadership is not about image. Leadership is about responsibility. When use of force cases are justified without community trust. When citizens feel silenced instead of protected. When
families are left with grief instead of answers. The chief is not separate from that. That is a reality. The chief is responsible for the culture of this department, the training it receives, and the standards it enforces.
Before you entered on the record today, December 9th, 2025, results of a public records request of Officer Chie Baz use of force reports indicate a pattern of harassment and intimidation of youth, specifically targeting young black men
while walking the streets of their neighborhood behind the guise of fear for a weapon. Silence is not leadership. Defensiveness is not leadership. Silence is violence. Accountability is leadership. Finally, I propose that this
highness bill. >> Thank you very much. >> A public community space. >> Thank you. >> Hello. >> You can lift that up if you want. So you don't have to bend down. My voice is kind of deep anyway, so I really need
it. Um, we're just we've been talking here. My name is Seth Adams and we uh The question is, can the city enforce Coulter to take down the deceptive website? Is that something you guys can do? >> I don't believe that's within our power.
>> Okay. All right. a um the the uh the website and the changing of the dates, the deceptive website and the changing of the dates. That's a little bit rough I think for the public. So, we might want to take a look at that, you know. So, that's about it.
Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Anybody else? Mr. Ray, >> good evening everyone. I'm sorry I don't have my glasses. This is a little rough. Oh, thanks Dean.
Thanks. Every year around the holidays, the mayor routinely speaks at the homeless memorial service in Sandp Point Park, allegedly honoring all the people who've passed on the streets in Titusville the
past year. Law enforcement officials routinely have been on the agenda and they've routinely been no shows. The city has a multi-unit abandoned
apartment complex on South Delhi on empty for eight years or more. Why haven't you made an effort to actually help with housing, possibly creating jobs for homeless people
as well as rehabbing these buildings, something for these people while they are alive rather than when they're dead? The pomp and circumstance of the yearly homeless memorial is touching,
but high time to walk the walk. I've seen miles of new asphalt, drains, curbing, and sidewalks to nowhere installed this year. Can you explain why
you will not do your job and enforce your own noise nuisance laws which have affected my health negatively for 19 months and would cost nothing in comparison.
And that's all again from the excessively loud F-150 pickup at 583 Gardinia. How can Titusville PD say they've done an inspection on the
truck and find nothing wrong in light of my headers which are illegal in Florida and Titusville this past June. You have
repaved miles of lesser traveled streets than in Gardenale, specifically Fern. I look today from the first five blocks from Gardinia Circle. There are either
54 potholes and/or indentations in just the first five blocks. Also, I want to point out when you come to any of these meetings, there's a paper over there.
I have it right here. You call it council chamber guidelines. >> Thank you very much, sir. >> I'll have to come back next meeting. >> Thank you. >> I saw you give other people more time. I can't have 30 seconds.
>> I tried to be fair to everybody and consistent across the board. >> Okay. So you can't give me 30 seconds or a minute. >> I cannot individually. No. Okay. >> I I move to give him 30 seconds. >> I would second that.
>> I have a motion. I have a second. Any further discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? Motion carries. You have 30 seconds. >> Thank you. Yeah. One of these things says speakers will address the meeting from
the podium. I've seen you reprimand people because they wanted to look at Mr. Laauo. That's that's against your own rules and regulations. And here's another quote. No person
shall interfere with the rights of others to speak, hear, see, or attend the proceedings. So when you tell people they're off topic, to me that's none of your business. People have three minutes. They should
be able to speak their three minutes without interruption when you interrupt them. >> Thank you, sir. Yeah. And actually, the mayor, if you continue to read the rules of council, decides who's on topic and who's not on topic. And when we're talking about specific action items, you have to be on topic. Petitions and
requests, you can talk about whatever topic you want to talk about. But if you ever want to discuss the rules, I'd be happy to do it outside of this meeting. Anybody else for petitions and requests from the public? non-aggenda items. Seeing none, city manager.
>> Sure. Now, moving on to item eight, consent agenda. There currently 11 items on consent. Does council wish to pull any of those 11 items? >> I'm not seeing any. City manager. >> And I'll go ahead and read the titles of
the 11 items for the record. Item 8A, contract award for RFP SV-25-P050TB, citywide employee assistance, EAP services. 8B piggyback agreement for
investment advisor services with US Bank Corp. Asset management incorporated doing business as PFM asset management. 8 C Titusville Farm LLC FY26 budget and
FY27 Pro for projections. 8 D Flag of Memorial Committee use of restricted funds. 8E 20 kilowatt diesel generator hazard mitigation public grant contract award.
8F resolution number 22-2025 adopting the Bvard County Hazard Mitigation Plan 2025 8G professional engineering design services for Titusville Marina hurricane repair project
8H continuing contract CO23 Q006TB task order number nine with Kimley Horn for trail amenities strategic Master Plan 8 I restricted donations and
purchase order issuance nanobubbles pilot project third-party monitoring 8J acceptance of easement from Park Square Enterprises LLC Odyssey Ridge Town Homes and 8K Odyssey Ridge Town Homes right-of-way
use agreement. >> Thank you city manager say clerk. We have only one card. Stan Johnston Stan Johnson 8 860 Point Poinset Avenue and I have uh seven agenda items that
I've u put uh the card on and and generally uh that didn't work very well at the last council meeting. Uh in fact is I spoke on one of only like seven items again. No, I think was nine items
and the one that was passed was that I didn't get to speak on was was I can't believe this city's consideration of um purchasing the u
uh space the police hall of fame for $15 million. And that was on our consent agenda. So I I have said and many others have said is that when you have consent consent agenda agenda items uh that that you
know in this this case that's an issue of $15 million and it was there was no discussion at all. Nobody had a card on it and it was passed and that was your consideration of of uh you know the
assessment of $150,000 given towards this um uh evaluation of of a $15 million project that you're seriously considering. $15 million is a lot of money. Uh, I mean,
I'm glad that uh some people are here behind me because I think we could have bought Royal Oak 147 acres for under $4 million and now we're talking about $15 million for something we don't know what we're going to do with it. It's going to have to probably have a million dollars
of of renovations. But anyhow, uh uh on 8 8 C is the Tifa thing issue is that u uh we Mr. Ball's not here though now. Yes,
he is. He was talking about that that uh it's it's a deep water aquifer. understanding is that I've got five families related to us out there on Mattown and they're talking to me about my goodness their ponds are going down
almost dry and today when I went to St. John's the the state of Florida over half the state of Florida is in a drought condition and severe drought for parts of of of um northern Florida severe drought. So I think we should
consider that as far as sustainability which is not considered and that's a serious matter and another serious matter is is that on this same issue is that the city of Titusville there our operators of the our wells have obviously bungled and bungled and
bungled with all the millions of dollars of wells we lost that we didn't lose years and years ago when we pumped them with with much less suction. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Johnson. to the council. Any discussion
Nelson? >> Move to approve consent agenda items A through K. >> Second. >> I have a motion. I have a second. Any further discussion? City clerk. >> Member Nelson. >> Yes. >> Mayor Connors. >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Cole? >> Yes.
>> Member Stokel? >> Yes. >> I'm sorry. Member Muscoso. >> Yes. >> I get choked up by the consent agenda, too. City clerk, >> city manager. >> Yes, sir. Moving on to ordinances. Uh,
item nine, as you know, 8A was removed by the applicant. Moving on to 9B is a conditional use permit is a quasi judicial item. So, the city attorney will read the rules for quasi judicial procedure.
During this portion of the meeting, anyone wishing to speak on a quasi judicial item must first sign a public hearing agenda card and sign the oath contained thereon. These cards are located at the uh council at the front.
It says back here, but at the front of the council chamber, those speaking in favor of a request will be heard first. Those opposed will be heard second, and those who wish to make the public comment on the item will speak third. The applicant may make a brief rebuttal if necessary. Witnesses may be
cross-examined by the applicant, council, staff representatives, and such other representatives as authorized by council. If you have any photographs, sketches, or documents that you desire for the city council to consider, they must be submitted into evidence and will
be retained by the city. Please submit such exhibits to the city clerk. City clerk, have all persons wishing to speak before the city council signed an oath of card? >> Is there anyone present who has not signed an oath card that wishes to speak
on the quasi judicial item at this time? >> City clerk, have all agenda items been properly advertised? >> Yes. >> And I'll make the inquiry of council, have any council members visited any sites or spoken to any members of the public regarding the item to be
reviewed? Could you please >> I have not >> state on the record individually, please. >> Member Nelson. >> No. >> Member Moscow. >> No. >> Vice Mayor Cole? >> No. >> Member Stool? >> No. >> Thank you. That's it.
>> Mr. Parish, I believe you're up. The agenda begins on page 1347 of your packet. I'm just going to skip around a little bit to kind of describe what's going on here. >> So, we reviewed the application for an outdoor storage use on property that's zoned currently Indian River City
Neighborhood Commercial on Hopkins Avenue. It was originally zoned M1, which is a warehousing or light industrial services and warehousing zoning district. The Indian River City neighborhood zoning was placed on the property in 2012 which basically grandfathered the existing industrial
light industrial type uses there which is basically which was currently being used for a mini warehouse and a u some other industrial uses related to the M1 which are mostly office and and contractor uses. The applicant is asking
to add an additional use which is currently not listed as a permitted use in the Indian River City neighborhood. However, there is a section of the code in that zoning district that actually allows for this only through a conditional use permit. So, that's why it's being brought before you
on page 1352 as the last page of the staff report. I'm just going to go through the conditions that we are recommending. We reviewed the application consistent with the criteria of the code and found it to be consistent with the comprehensive
plan and the zoning provided the certain conditions are applied. So we are recommending four conditions if this is approved. One that the outdoor storage areas shall be screened from view of the adjacent riseway and lots by buildings andor opaque masonry wall or fence at
least 8 ft in height maintain be maintained in good condition at all times. In addition, second condition applicant to apply for a building permit demonstrating restoration of the existing 8-foot opaque fence at location 3900 South Hopkins Avenue and
installation of opaque fencing at 3838 South Hopkins Avenue. Compliance shall be verified through the building permit review process. And that would be primarily for a fence or wall, whatever they're going to propose to do. The third condition is that the outdoor storage area shall be kept in a neat and orderly arrangement. Materials shall not
be stacked higher than the screen wall or fence. And then the last condition we're recommending uh is that all outdoor storage areas shall be located on paved stabilized surfaces designed and constructed to prevent soil or water contamination. So that might require permit depending on what they're doing
as well. This was brought before the planning and zoning commission. They recommended approval with the conditions that staff recommended. On page 1358 of your packet, you'll see the plot plan basically just highlighted portions of a survey,
property boundary survey the applicant gave us, indicating where they would like to have the outdoor storage area, which will be in conjunction with the mini warehouse area, which was previous previously approved when it was previously zoned M1 with a conditional
use permit in 2003. I'm going to refer to you to some of the maps on 1368, page 1368 of your packet. You'll see the zoning map. Again, in 2012, through community uh engagement, a
community plan, and a tailor made zoning district for this neighborhood with the involvement of the community there, uh the Indian River City neighborhood zoning district was approved and applied on this area in this neighborhood in 2012. Most of the interior of this neighborhood was zoned the subdist
residential and the exterior surrounding areas of this neighborhood was zoned commercial. The subdist commercial in this Indian River City neighborhood zoning district. This property is currently zoned commercial inside the zoning district. on page
I'm sorry I'm gonna skip a moment here on the next page 1363 you'll see at the very bottom there the section that I referred to earlier that's inside the zoning district that basically says that permitted and conditioned uses of the light industrial
services and warehousing M1 zoning district may be permitted provided the following conditions are So, this is their way to allow certain uses that are inside that M1 zoning district inside a property that is currently zoned Indian River City neighborhood commercial provided they
meet the conditions. In addition, it also says in paragraph F, any non-residential use in the Indian River City neighborhood commercial district not listed shall be considered a conditional use permit. And so, we've applied that section of the code as well. We believe they meet the conditions
listed here on this page and the following page of the code provided the conditions that we're recommending are adopted. I'm going to refer to you page 1367 of your packet and you'll see an aerial to
give you an idea of where this property is located in the city. It's fairly long property on the west side between the FEC railroad and South Hopkins Avenue north of Knox McRay. So the area where this outdoor storage
area will be mostly applied is on the southern half of this elongated property. With that, I'll try to answer any questions you have. >> Member Stokl. >> Yes. Um, don't we have a storage facility already on Hopkins in this area?
>> I believe so. Okay. Do you know was did that one was it zoned that way or did we do a cup for that one prior to do you know how that one was approved? I can tell you about this property. There was a cup for a mini warehouse, but at the
time in 2003 when the Cup is approved, I believe that the code in at the time allowed for uh these external storage units to be placed on the property and considered as mini warehouse at the time. And that's how that CU was approved and that's what's governing on this property right now.
>> Okay. And then um are these going to be one story? the the pods that we're >> the store this sto this application >> outdoor storage does not necessarily have to be one story it's all about how it's u placing it outside without a roof
but our concern is about how it's screened >> I guess I guess I was looking at the conditions and it looked like the conditions were you know an 8ft fence and I'm thinking okay why is that a condition if it's two stories potentially or what was the thought process behind that
>> well an 8ft fence is not necessarily really two stories. It's just the height of the fence enclosure itself. And one of the conditions we're recommending is that if they're going to stack material in there that it shouldn't exceed the height of that. >> So the material shouldn't exceed that height, but the storage facility could
exceed that height. >> The for the pods for the original CP, I'd have to look back at what those conditions are, but I don't believe they were allowed to stack them on top of each other. >> Okay. >> Yeah, they're the way they're laid out right now is that they're adjacent to each other. So, I don't believe that there's there >> but there's nothing in here regarding
height um at least that I saw >> of the materials inside for outdoor storage. >> Well, except for that, but I'm talking about the actual piece of property and what's going to be on there. >> Well, the >> there's no height restrictions or anything. >> The Indian River City neighborhood, I believe, has a height restriction. I can
try and find out for you. >> Okay. I'm just thinking through this. I I mean, I feel like it's this will be fine. and I don't have any issues with it, but could there potentially be something that does go above high restrictions that we're not covering in the cup?
>> We're Yes. So, the CUP is only concerned about the outdoor storage. So, just the material that's going to be laid out outside. >> Okay. >> So, it's not related to structures of buildings. >> Okay. >> This particular cup. >> Okay. Thank you, >> Vice Mayor Cole. I'm well well familiar
with this area because I I run by there and it's anything would be better than what it is right now because it's a cyclone fence with uh the
sheeting on the side that's always draped down. So my question to you, Brad, is that you say you're requiring them to put up a fence or a concrete wall, and I'm just
wondering about the aesthetics of it. >> Our concern >> because it's it's right on the main drag of Hopkins. >> Yes, sir. >> You know, so that that's my question. >> Our concern was that the screening so making sure that the screening was okay. screening that's there now is is always
down because the wind will blow it down and it's it's not something good to look at. >> What I mean by screening is not the cloth. >> You're just talking about uh structural screening. >> Correct. >> Okay. >> Yes. Gotcha. >> Making sure that it's opaque. >> Okay.
>> Thank you very much. City clerk >> Michael Lord. >> Is there any other cards? >> And then Stan Johnston. I'm not Stan Johnson. I'm Michael Lloyd. So, >> uh, thank you guys. I'm I'm just here to
answer any questions I do on the building there, um, at 3838 South Hopkins. So, um, the building to the north, uh, and Herman, I've seen you run by it hundreds of times, so Yes, sir. Um,
the building to the north is office buildings. It's broken up into light industrial, AC contractors. We we lease it to, my company is actually a general contractor. So, we have a need for storage. We ended up purchasing the that
that yard uh about a year ago and uh yes, the screening wasn't taken care of by the the past owners. We we do want to be good neighbors and make sure we take care of that. Uh so there is a need from our tenants. There's a need really for
the community uh to to make it look better one and then also park some things there. Uh because if you're a concrete guy, you need to park your trailer on a yard and not at a house. And so anything we park there will be
something you can drive on the road. Uh and then we'll have little little storage units there with it so you could actually like store some things there, too. So, uh automatic gate, we're going to have things that that you know bring bring the bring it up to to a better
standard in that neighborhood. So, um, so thank you guys for hearing it and hope you'll support it. And I don't see you running by there as much though. I don't know what the what the deal is. Herman. >> Should probably wait till after he votes to say that.
>> All right. >> Yes, sir. >> Mhm. my uh uncle who worked for his dad and for many years for some time. So um anyhow, I'm not against uh Mr. Lloyd. Uh
but uh I'm going to request tableabling of this for a reason you don't like. And what's going on is that uh uh why do I the city has failed failured to uh
u refuse refusal by HH HR to discipline some some horrible dishonesty in the city. I'm talking about fraud um false reports and so forth that are costing the city lots of money. Lots of
money. And and uh it's As far as I'm concerned, it's in the million million millions of dollars. And that's Mr. Parish. Mr. Parish has um I charged him with a false report filed to FD. And
>> Mr. Johnson, please stay on the topic of this. >> This is what I'm talking. >> Okay. Please understand that I am professional engineer and I'm giving you my findings as an expert witness and that what is happening is is Mr. parish has been
corrupt and he's he's committed fraud. He's been disciplined and yet this sustainability report titled resilient times bill 2019 has been removed again an addendum and so uh what's going on is is that this was a
false report submitted to um FD by um the false reports concocted by Mr. Parish and Mr. Galindo and East Central Florida Regional Planning Council. >> Mr. Johnson, please get on topic of this
problem. >> This is on topic. Seriously, now this is a quasi judicial. I think you should should pay attention. You're taking my time and I don't I don't appreciate that because because I I'm talking about something serious. I'm talking about
what I'm saying is a false reports, fraud. Fraud by Mr. Parish. >> That's not the ide. This is that's why I'm that's why I'm I'm asking you to table it because I don't think he you should consider him because he's he's dishonest. He's a fraud.
Liars, cheats, shyers. That's what he's what what he's been. And he's not disciplined by the city as he should be. I've gone to Mr. uh Diero and asked him to to do something about it and and he refuses to do it again. In other words, he he disciplined him once for it and
now he's now it's continued again. And this is serious as issue concerning millions and millions of dollars. If y'all would listen to what the sustainability report as errors and emissions, deliberate errors and emissions by Mr. Parish and some others.
So I don't think we have I don't have any reason why I don't think you should I'm requesting to be table. Thank you. All right. Does council have any other questions of Mr. Parish or the applicant? See? None. Member Nelson. Um, I would
move to approve CUP number 7, 2025 for 3838 South Hopkins and 3900 South Hopkins with the conditions outlined by staff. >> Second. >> Have a motion. I have a second. Any
further discussion from this council? Seeing none, city clerk. >> Mayor Connors, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cole, >> yes. >> Member Stole, >> yes. >> Member Muscoso, >> yes. >> Member Nelson, >> yes. >> Motion carries. Thank you very much. City manager, I believe. Um, now we're
on to petitions and requesting the public. >> That's correct, sir. >> Non-aggenda items. Anybody that has not spoken the first time, now is your opportunity. Seeing none, I guess we're on to mayor
and council reports. Uh the one thing we need to bring up is I believe in the past uh we approved member Stokold to go to the Florida League of Cities legislative action days. So um we kind of omitted member Muscoso and myself. So I know we're
looking for approval on that. Um we can make a motion whenever. It doesn't have to necessarily be under my report, but other than that, um >> I would make that motion. >> I'd second Okay. So, I have a motion. I have a second. City clerk, are there any cards on this item?
>> Stan Johnston. >> I'm not sure what >> the motion on the table is to u pay for expenses for member Muscoso and myself to go to Tallahassee for the legis. very much against it because uh what what if
y'all you should have listened to me what I said at the last meeting is that not the CRA is that is that I was speaking on all these activities you have going here going there and you're not taking care of of issues of the city that needs to be taken care of. So I
don't want you I don't want you guys I don't want the city to spend money on either of you going there. None of it. Not at all. I'm very much I'm not a little bit against it. I'm very much against it. I was offended. I was removed from from the from talking to talking at my freedom of speeches was
interrupted just because I was saying this at the last meeting. And I I just think I I'm just disgusted with what you guys are doing. You're not doing your work. I mean, we've got you you never did take care of the issue of sewage
people being sprayed sewage. You don't care. This has been going on for 40 years. this this uh approval to build these dams over 40 years and what have you guys done? What do you do? You go here, here, and you have this banquet and so forth, slapping each other on the
back. I don't appreciate it at all. You're you're losing and I and I talked to you about losing millions of dollars by, for example, a sustainability report. That's just fraud. I think you should listen to this. You have no business going to Tallahassee or somewhere for this for this particular
issue. I'm against it. Not a little bit, big time. Neither of you, none of you should be doing what you're doing as far as all these little committees and so forth that you're doing. You're not taking care of the public. I'm shocked. I'm really shocked with
what you're doing. In other words, I I come to you about a problem that's been going on for 40 years. And what you know what I get? I get no answer at all. >> Stay on topic, Mr. Johnson. >> I'm against what? I'm against it totally for for for any funding of you guys. It
was against your ball, your whatever that ball was. >> Stay on topic, Mr. Johnson. >> And this is another expenditure of money that I'm I'm not against I'm not for it at all. Not at all. It's uh um it's just a slap in the face. I think it's a slap
in the face to the public what you guys been doing. And you know, the these houses been flooded several times and you never even took it. on top of Johnson. >> So this is it. In other words, I don't think you guys I don't think, for example, Sarah Stoke's learned a thing
about all these legal things that she's been with all this, you know, saying she's she's done this and she's get this as a ward or something like that and and uh the issues that she's been doing going to the League of Cities. I don't think she's learned a thing.
I mean, look look uh all I get is nonsense and and uh Yeah. Go ahead. And >> All right. Have a seat, Mr. Johnson. >> Okay. I don't think you should have removed me, but you did. >> Have a seat. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. Any further discussion from
councel? Seeing none, all those in favor say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? Motion carries. Thank you very much. >> Member Scosa, would you like to be next? >> Member Nelson. >> Oh. no report um other than say merry
Christmas and I sort of wanted to know what was going on with the concrete plant. Funny you should ask that. Earlier today I sent you a memo from our code enforcement manager detailing the last six months or so of actions where we
would receive a complaint. We' send out code enforcement to discuss uh remedies with the plant manager. there would be some uh corrective actions such as watering down to prevent dust runoff. Um
they would come into compliance and then several days later or a week later whatever they would fall out of compliance additional complaints would be received and this uh uh cycle of uh inspections, corrective action, pass
fail has continued. Right now, it's an open case on code enforcement. So, there hasn't been any fines levied yet. However, that's probably the next stage. Additionally, um it's to the point now where I think we need to take a look with city attorney, myself, and code
enforcement to see what provisions can be found to um further strengthen corrective actions because right now um it's simply not working just going out there every other week and and with code enforcement. So, we need to have some
more I hate to say concrete plans pl in place, but that's what we need to do. And maybe Brad, if you want to uh get any input onto that or regarding, you know, how the business got to be there in the first place
because if you take a look at it, it's in an awkward spot on Garden Street, you know, right before you enter the downtown. >> A very industrial type facility. >> That's true. It's a grandfather. I mean, the zoning district's been in place. It's a heavy industrial use, heavy industrial zoning, the most intense
zoning district we have in the city at that location. And it's been there for a very long time. So any uses that are allowed within that zoning district be permitted there. Obviously, they have to operate according to all regulations including erosion control.
>> So would the state step in? >> Possibly. I don't know if we >> protection because I'm seeing concrete, I don't know what I'd call it, coming down Garden Street headed toward our
river. >> Correct. They should have the um systems in place to wash the the um vehicles before they go off the property. So, the um materials should not be coming off the property onto the street.
>> Okay. So, we're working on it. >> Anything else? >> Thank you. Uh, member Stokl. >> Yes. Um, just a few items. One, I was going to bring up the concrete facility and specifically see if there's any legal ramifications that we can do or
look into potentially. Um, I know that's happening, not with this situation, but other municipalities where it seems like an applicant or something was approved or even dollars were given for something and then plans change. What legal course do we have um to move forward? That
would probably be something I I would hope that we can look into from that perspective. >> And we are scheduled to look into it. Glenn and I have a meeting on Thursday to see what our current code provides as far as enforcement or any amendment or addition we need to do in addition to
other legal remedies outside of our code that we may be able to take with council's permission. >> Yes. Thank you so much. Um, another thing, um, >> members, are you moving into your report or >> Oh, I was going to Is it not my turn? >> Still on her port, but I think
>> Okay, that's all I had for the concrete. >> I think Herman wanted to chime in on the concrete thing. >> Yeah, my question would be to the concrete plant. Have they done any Are they doing anything different now than they did before? Do they have a holding pond in there when they wash their
trucks off that the runoff doesn't go into the water? It's just a lot of questions that need to be answered because after they've been here all these years, all of a sudden the dust starts coming up now. They're ei doing something different or the protections
that they had in place prior are failing. >> According to the report that was shared by the city manager showed that sometimes they're failing and sometimes they're passing. So they're doing something right sometimes not consistently >> and and I would feel very strongly that
if we got a large enough fine on them and we got the management people in to talk to them I think that we may get their attention because it's obvious that we're not getting their attention now. >> Thank you Vice Mayor Cole. So
potentially an injunction, >> that's always an option, a legal option. But again, we'll discuss what we currently can move forward under a code, whether there are code amendments that need to be taken or other legal remedies as stated, an injunction, a deck action, whatever legal remedies that may be
available. But that will be presented for uh council to give the directive perhaps at a close executive session. However, the report does outline specifically all that has been um done for the past what six months or more. Uh
so the report is very detailed as far as efforts that has been taken. They seem to be very inconsistent. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Member Nelson, did does that conclude your report? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Member Stokel.
>> Yes. Um, thank you to Mayor Connors for passing this out. I was going to talk about this briefly. You all have. Um, it's hard for me to put into words how much work I would believe truly believe the Florida League of Cities does. Um, so it it's
disheartening to hear uh comments made otherwise, but this will give you an idea of what has occurred over this fall uh fall month. So for those that aren't aware, there are five legislative committee policy committees that the Florida League of Cities helps to
organize. So any local elected official can sign up to serve on a policy committee. There are five. The good part about there being five is due to sun sunshine law, they don't want to have a council member serving with another council member on that same policy committee in case there could be a
sunshine violation. Within those five policy committee, there are three set meetings that occur. one in September, October, and then their third one was at this past legislative conference uh in November, and I know Mayor Connors attended that as well. During that those
meetings, again, you have to keep in mind these people are volunteering their time to come and work through some issues that we face at the local level. So, a lot of times we'll have frustrations and sometimes they're rooted in things that we have no control over, no power over that are coming from the state. And so to me, these are
probably, you guys know this, I'm most passionate about this. Um, so these committees met and this is what they came up with through these three meetings of fine-tuning, talking through some of the issues. How should we word this? What's our stance on this? Understanding that we're not trying to
be at odds with the state, but we want to come and partner alongside them and best serve our citizens. So, if you do take the time, um, it go it gives you some background, but just for the record, the priorities address property taxes and a lot of the property tax
legislation that you see, I think I can't remember how many proposals there were. Seven, nine. Yeah. Okay. um property taxes, enterprise transfer funds, housing, uh revising Senate Bill 180, sovereign
immunity, community redevelopment agencies, extra territorial search charges, municipal elections, and public records exemption for municipal clerks and staff. Um so you can see the actual policy statements that were voted on and approved as well as background on that.
This is what we'll be doing in Tallahassee in January. But I will say if you have any relationships with any state reps or state senators in the meantime, please reach out to them prior because they are meeting right now discussing these things, working through them. And sometimes, and I shared this
at the conference, sometimes it can be very frustrating and you feel like you're sharing something and they don't hear it, but they do. They they don't have to abide by sunshine law and they're in back rooms. They're meeting and talking. So the more that we can say, "Hey, have you thought about this or this is what's happening with our
city or if we have examples, it really does go a long way as they're kind of working through it through each of their committees." Um so that is kind of what if you want to start um just prepping for what we'll do in Tallahassee. The second item, um, since there are
three of us that are going to legislative action days and that falls on our January 27th council meeting, I wanted to see if we wanted to move that council meeting potentially to Thursday since three of us would not be here. So, didn't just wanted to open that up
because if there are items coming before us and we don't have another meeting in December, I think we should talk about that now. >> Very good call, Member Stol. And I believe we made that same change last year. Yes. >> So, you have to make a motion.
>> I make a motion that we move our January 27th council meeting to January 29th, which is a Thursday night. >> A second. >> There's a motion. Second >> because otherwise, >> there won't be a quorum. There won't be a quorum.
>> I know. Are there? >> Yeah. Okay, >> I'm sorry to be uh repetitive and redundant, but I just said I was much opposed to spending uh like over $1,400 for uh Connors and Muscoso to go. So,
the the easy solution is is just don't go and then you'll have a quorum. So, uh just don't do it. So, I'm I'm against the emotion and I'm uh I'm doing it because I just don't think you got I don't see that you guys are responding.
I have closed doors repeatedly from this agency and it's not right and I've also had my freedom of speech removed repeatedly. So, uh I'm I'm not I'm against your motion. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Johnson. Any further discussion from this board?
Seeing none, all those in favor say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. Member Stokel. >> Yes. Um, next item. One, this was kind of a fun one. I just was going to pay my water bill and I was in line and the lady with me, she did not know I was on council or anything. I just was going to
pay and she's like, "Oh." She's like, "I'm so excited to pay my water bill. This is such a nice experience compared to enlisted another city." And I'm not going to say that city, but I was like, "Oh, really?" She's like, "Oh, yeah. It's so bad. They're here. Everyone's so friendly and nice. I enjoy coming." So, I just want to say thank you to the
staff again. She did had no clue who I was. I was just paying my water bill and I thought that was nice to share. >> I I Yeah, I tend to do that sometimes. Um the other item I had was speaking of our council retreat that was mentioned
before. I did reach out to some of um my colleagues that are part of our young elected municipal officials group and someone did reach out to me and said that they felt that the retreat that they have planned and that they typically do um is more meaningful
impactful than several council meetings and I asked for him to send me some more information. And the good part that I liked about it, which I think would be helpful for us, is the facilitator that they brought in, one, he said they had a psychology background. And I'm going to look into see if the Florida League of
Cities has maybe any resources for this as well because he said he thinks that his may have come from Florida League of Cities, but um that person met with each council member one-on-one prior to kind of talk through what is important to you. And it reminded me of what we did kind of with the city manager interview.
It's like going over what are your top priorities? And then he built that agenda based on common themes he found among each of the council members for them to kind of workshop through and then to create that agenda. And so um to
me I feel like that process at that's just the one takeaway I got from this so far. I asked them to go ahead and send me the agenda of what it looks like. Um, but I feel like that would be a much better approach than having someone come in, facilitating discussion the day of and then kind of just giving us a
report. I feel like some of that pre-work will be really valuable for us. Um, and then there's some other things that I just asked him on. Okay, so did they did go offsite. You do have to notice it. Um, the public is welcome, so you have the open door, but they would just be able to speak one time, which he
said they typically don't have anybody, but if they do, they might come and then leave. Um, which I think would be fine for us. But um I guess I don't know if my what my ask is here other than just to kind of share that, get some thoughts and then as I investigate more information
um continue to share with you, but I feel like we do probably have to start deciding when and what we want to do soon. >> Thank you, Mayor Stokal. Uh I believe that was the general consensus of council was to do the community workshop on a Saturday and then afterwards us as
a board kind of have a you know more um workshop type event amongst ourselves. Uh so I I think that's generally supported member of MSOS. >> Yeah. Um my only thing is um we're going to have elections again. three seats are
up and so I don't know if this is something that we plan to do after the election um or if you feel like it's useful to do before because I I my understanding was it was um also like team bonding in a sense and three seats are going to be could completely change
and so just to think about that as we move forward I know it would have been helpful >> when I first got on council um in the beginning and so that could be something to to look at as well >> I'm okay with that to just because of the timeline. So maybe we do the community workshop and then as I gather
more information um we can prepare to do it next year. I'm perfectly fine with that. I just I don't want us to lose lose sight of that because I do think it would be very valuable for us. >> Well, I appreciate you know both trains of thought. Uh my only kind of hesitation is we still got to prepare a
budget together >> for 2027. And I think that's important if we need to iron out our priorities ahead of time so we can make sure we have a nice clean budget that addresses the needs of our constituents. Um because sometimes the budget kind of
comes in close to the deadline >> and we don't have a whole lot of time to discuss our priorities. So I think that would be a lot of bulk of the conversation. Member Nelson, >> I like the idea of the retreat
because in thinking about our flooding problems, our problems with storm water, it sort of gives us the chance to talk about it and say, you know, what about this solution? what about that solution
and plan a a definite program of this is how we're going to deal with it and hopefully fix it. >> So I I like that idea >> and I feel like too me it's a lot less
formal than this like oh let me push my button let me do I might not say something. It's us like working together and really coming up and having that open dialogue. >> And we can do it during the day. So it's not, you know, 10, 11 o'clock at night, we're tired.
You've worked all day. Andrew worked all day. The rest of us have done Herman's worked all day. >> Okay. >> Um I haven't worked all day, but still, you get tired. Um, and it just be nice
to relax and have that kind of discussion on what do you think about trying this? Will it work? So, I like the idea. >> Okay. Um, and then my last thing >> Oh, so sorry.
>> Yeah. Along those lines, I I think that's a a great idea to do it. I don't I realize that election is in November of next year, but I don't think we should delay this because we still have to govern for the rest of the year.
>> And nothing's to say we can't do this on a yearly basis because I think the type of camaraderie we could form we can form there and that's the only place we can do it. can't do it any place else which is unfortunate
>> but uh I don't think we should delay it. I think we should do it and I think we should have the exact thing that you came up with about whoever our facilitator is interviews us individually and then uses that
>> to run our workshop and having it during the day would be good too. Right. >> Okay. Member Stokel. >> Yes. So, um I guess I can get more information, get the schedule, and then if you guys are okay with it, work with
staff um to see how I can best assist and see if there's a floor legacy. I don't know if you guys have worked on anything yet. >> I was going to mention that actually discuss that city management report that I had already arranged this year. However, if council wants to take a def different direction, obviously I need
clarification, but I had already arranged with Kristen Baky to do the community conversation and a follow-up. However, if we want to go in a different direction, we still have plenty of time to change it based on council's desires. >> City manager, I believe the conversation
was at our last meeting, we would do the community conversation, right? We still want to do that. Just after that, take that feedback and us get together as a board. Second session would be of a different format. >> Yes. >> We're actually talking to each other because at that meeting we're just
listening. >> Right. >> Got it. >> Okay. And then um also just to follow up um when I was talking to him, he also said it's been such a success that they do it annually that now they do like a mini one six months in because it's
working well for them. Um and then my last thing is asking of staff. Do you know I've gotten some complaints about our uh meetings are not on Spectrum channel anymore. Have you guys heard that or could you look into that? >> Yeah, it's a talking about broadcasting
our meetings. Yes. >> Spectrum's equipment is not working properly. You can only get it through YouTube and through other venues, but we're working with Spectrum to update it. And what they want to do is they're required to broadcast that as as a public service, but they don't want to
update their equipment. And it's a is a spectrum issue, but we're working on that. >> Okay. >> What they want to do is they want us to buy them new equipment and so we're we're hesitant. >> I mean, there's other meetings that are on there that I see from other government, right, meeting. So, I'm
hopeful that Okay. >> Yeah. You'll see like it looks like skipped, but that's just equipment issues. That's not our broadcasting. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. That's all I have, >> Vice Mayor. The only thing I have is uh I think we had a good year and I want to wish
everyone a very merry Christmas and a happy new year. >> You took all my time >> to be quite honest. I think that was the shortest one yet. >> But I just like to piggyback on what member Stokal said regarding the Florida
League of Cities uh policy committee meetings. It's been a pleasure to serve on I was on the emergency management one which is that's where SB80 fell. It was emergency management bill. So that was the bulk of my time was spent there and uh it's a big priority of all of us
cities to revise sections 18 and 28 of that in particular because it's a massive massive bill and most people don't even know what's what's all in it. So we we spent a lot of time doing that and hopefully we can get the ball across the finish line and that's where going
to Tallahassee makes a lot of sense because we want to make sure that the state doesn't preempt everything that we try to do in local government because home rule is very important to all of us. So with that being said, that's my report. Appreciate you, city manager.
Moving on to the city manager report. I have one action item and that is a uh letter of support for the Cocoa Bright Line station. As you know, we're all aware that Koko is trying very hard to get funding um for that station and they
have asked us in conjunction with the uh TPO to send a letter to the uh uh federal FDOT uh Secretary Duffy supporting that. and we're looking for uh authorization to have the mayor sign the letter and then I would fax it over
to um the TPL. >> A little bit of background on this project. It's been going on a long time. I think we've all heard about it. They had their grant completely submitted and then the federal government changed how the grants need to be submitted. So, they had to basically reset and go back
to square one. Uh, so that's really what they're looking for is that one one piece and then hopefully we can um get that ball on the road. Member Nelson. >> So I would move to um approve the letter of support for the Cocoa Brid line station.
>> Second a motion. I have a second. >> Go for it. >> Thank you. City manager would did you have something to add? >> Uh no sir. >> Okay. Thank you. >> All right. Any further discussion from this board? All those in favor say I. I >> any opposed? Motion carries unanimously.
Thank you. >> Next for uh mentioned earlier that we're setting up some dates for the strategic planning. Obviously now we'll just do the first the community conversation facilitated by Chrisbachy and we're looking for some availability in
February. And on the second one with the council, we'll wait for further clarification from council member Stokel before we set that and the venue. We'll do that a little differently than we've done in the past. But uh um I have the basically the three dates, three
Saturdays in February, the 28th, 21st, and the 7th are available. Um the 28th I've been told is a bicycle a bike rally type uh citywide event, which may or may not conflict with any of council members
involvement in. But if uh if uh one of those dates is available, I'd like to go ahead and confirm it and have it set up with our facilitator. >> You didn't say the 14th, right? >> 14th is not available.
>> That's that's Valentine's Day. >> Does the 21st work for everybody? It's good for me. >> I don't see any objection. Member still. >> Um I kind of liked the 7th unless there's a conflict. Um only because I would like it to happen sooner so we can
get a report back and then lead into the retreat happening soon before we start the budget process. Um I potentially could have a conflict on the 21st, but if we end up picking that date, I will I will be here. >> What time are we looking at having it? >> Is it like 9 to 12?
>> 9 to 12. three hours and it's a little different format proposed to get more uh community participation. >> Okay. I was just curious because I have a wedding that evening so I just wanted to make sure. >> Okay. >> You get married? >> No. >> Oh my gosh.
>> Seventh is okay with me. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Seventh is >> 7th it is. That'll be a good date. And the lastformational item is that uh uh early on there was a discussion of having a town hall to regarding the
flash flooding in conjunction with the county. Um that's not going to happen. However, we've decided to go along on our own and hold a a storm warning management workshop on the 22nd of January. And attached in your packet is
a flyer that talks about uh it's more or less just an opportunity for staff to meet with with individuals regarding our storm water management uh efforts both uh past and and future. >> Can I ask a question?
>> Yeah. >> Okay. Um >> why why is the county doesn't want to participate? We asked the county and they declined to participate in a joint town hall and I don't want to go any further than that. We did ask
>> okay >> at a staff level >> and do does our public works uh communicate with their road and bridges because I know a lot of the roads up there are like half and half >> right and that was one of the reasons to have a joint meeting is to talk about it. >> Yeah. I mean like my understanding is
>> they are they are meeting but they didn't want to have a town hall. >> Okay. Yeah. My thing is, yeah, I just want to make sure that like, for example, if Titusville is clearing the ditches on the street, that they're coordinating with the county to make sure that ditch, the whole ditch is clean, not just
>> and they will be meeting and Kevin has actually has some dates set for meetings at the staff level, but not in a >> but that's something that's been happening in the past as well, or is this just now going to start? >> As far as coordination and maintenance, the county duration is about once every
five, six years where ours is more annually based. So we don't really coordinate when we clean a ditch versus when they clean a ditch. Uh we clean our side. We pass along the information road bridge as it's given to us. But there's not a there's not a t sorry timing where
we're both there. On the occasion the mensy mucks have come in for us for the county side to do the cities as well, but we have a lot more availability to get out there than they do. So historically they've not been timed together. >> Yeah, that's one thing. I mean I I don't know how you coordinate that. Um, I know
it's different schedules, but it's so I think so important that, you know, we're trying to get the whole street clean and you know, a flood doesn't know which is county, which is city. And I know that you guys know that. But my my only thing on this one, would it be possible to have it um in like a community center
and not necessarily at city hall? Is that something that we could look at? I think we would get more more people. I think um it'd be better use of our time if that's possible. We we could certainly change the venue if that's what council directs us to do.
>> Would you guys be okay if looking at it having it in a community center instead of here at city hall? >> I don't care where it's at. >> I don't care >> because it's not like a it's not a meeting that we all have to attend. It's whoever is available that wants to attend. I just feel like it's it's good
sometimes to get outside of city hall to have these meetings. I would encourage people to go out in the community at all times and meet in the community. I just I can't be there so it doesn't affect my calendar one way or another because I'm
already booked up. Member Stol, >> I'm fine with that. I don't know from a staff perspective are I don't know. Are you guys setting up any microphones or any is that is that all okay? >> We we can handle logistics. I just normally we hold those type meetings here but >> Okay. >> It's not not an issue. we can find
another venue here pretty quickly. We haven't even started advertising really. So, >> okay. No, and I think that's a good point because I do feel like again it feels less formal and more people can kind of engage in that conversation. >> Yeah. And a possible more to the north area where the flooding was. I mean, I know that um like we had the last
>> I was like maybe the senior center. >> Yeah, that would be great. I think that would be great. And then >> sure, I can get that. Not a problem. >> If you wouldn't mind, I'd appreciate it. Thank you. >> City manager. Anything else in your report? >> No, sir. That concludes my report. >> Has this gone out on social media
already? >> I think it has, hasn't it? >> Because my wife mentioned it that she saw it. So that's my only concern now after thinking about it. I remember the conversation we had like think two nights ago or last night that um so if
it has already been advertised like on social media and we might need to to keep it where it is to prevent confusion, but um we'll kind of let staff let us know what they want to do. All right.
City attorney. >> Yes. Briefly, uh, first I want to formally introduce to us all our new assistant city attorney, David Molo, who's stand up, David. Just we're very excited to have him.
He's hit the ground running and we're uh super super excited to have the help for sure and his um his vigor in wanting to do lo local government. >> Thanks. Uh the second uh item on my report is a formal request from council
to approve the settlement agreement in the pending litigation titled Lon versus City of Titusville and authorize the defense council risk manager who's present here. Mark um and the city manager to or designate to execute the
necessary settlement agreement on this case. >> Thank you very much. City clerk. >> We have one card. Stan Johnston. >> Stan Johnson. I think this is the first time I've been able to to um speak about
our new uh a wonderful beautiful with fofy hair uh new new treasure. I mean she's got just about everything. But of course the question is is what's the question? Can
she cook? Can she cook? I don't. Okay. Anyhow, it was a joke. Um anyhow, but uh uh my my concern is in the legal staff is what we had. We had Richard Broom and Chelsea um Frell and uh uh Mr. Broom was uh uh very
much involved in the $70,000 fraud in 2019 and he approved something that was saying >> Mr. Johnson's topic. So, in in other words, so I'm talking about the that uh uh I I hope that we don't train our our
uh new attorneys to uh be dishonest and not represent the people. So, that's what I'm hoping that that will happen. So, that's that's that's the main thing I'm looking for is is let's don't have it happen again like it had with the last two. Thank you. >> Thank you.
Can I have a motion? Move to approve the settlement of the claim in the case of liston versus city of Titusville and authorize the defense council risk manager, city manager or designate
design to execute the settlement documents. >> Second. >> I have a motion. >> And I have a second. Any further discussion from this board? Seeing none, all those in favor say I. >> I.
>> Any opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. I in the back of my mind I heard her say ordinance. So I was just like, hold on. >> No, no. When she was talking about execute the ordinance or something. >> Oh, not talking about that.
>> Maros, are you making a motion to adjourn? >> No. Can I just say something? Um, attorney treasure, on this one, I just want to give you a big thanks because you saved the city um a lot of money. Um, and I don't have all the specifics,
but we thank you very much for your diligence and for pushing and um, and representing the city well. So, thank you. >> Can Can we say she's earned her keep for >> for years? >> For years. >> And you don't have to cook.
>> I'm sorry. >> You did not need to. >> You didn't want to. >> Motion to adjurnn. We're ajourned. >> If I may, I'm sorry. I just wanted to thank you for thanking me, but I also wanted to um just extend the kudos to
Mark who also did a lot of the were hard work prior to me getting here and really it was a shared team event for sure. >> Thanks. Thank you.