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section shall be construed to limit or restrict a person's right created by the constitution, law, ordinance, or regulation. >> Good evening everybody. would like to welcome you to the city of Titusville City Council regularly scheduled meeting
September 23rd, 2025 at 6:30. I'm going call this meeting to order and I would like to invite up Pastor Gerald Smith, retired chaplain from Parish Medical Center, who will give the invocation. Thank you very much. Let's all pray. Loving God, we thank you for the
opportunity to gather. Good government is a blessing. We pray Lord that during this meeting tonight you would grant wisdom to the mayor and the council members. We pray you would bless this city. We thank you Lord for your word which gives us good guidance about
living a community and says to us that if it is possible as much as it depends on you live at peace with everyone. God depends on each one of us to live at peace with one another. May your spirit
guide us and bless us so that our community is blessed. We thank you Lord that those who are here, perhaps there are some here who have some legitimate grievance here tonight. This is a good forum for that. We pray Lord that your spirit and presence would preside over
even that. And we pray God that it would be a a peaceful exchange that this room would be characterized by listening and honoring of one another. bless the further proceedings of this meeting tonight. We pray in the name of
Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen. >> Amen. Thank you very much, pastor. >> Can you please stand for the pledge of allegiance? >> I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the stands nationy
andice for all. Thank you very much. Now, if I could ask council for a motion to approve the minutes. >> Move to approve the minutes of the meeting on July 22nd, August 26, and the special city council
meeting on November 11th. >> Second. Would you accept a friendly amendment to your motion of special city council meeting on September 11th? >> Oh yeah. Second stand. >> All right. Second still stands. I have a motion. I have a second. Any further
discussion? All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? Motion carries. Thank you very much. Uh Mr. City Manager. >> Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, and members of council. First uh item on the agenda is 5A's uh special recognitions
and presentations and we have uh employee of the month for September of 2025. We have we'll be recognizing three hardworking members of public works who were working recently on the recommissioning of the uh public works admin building and to they were
nominated by it and Justin Wells will present the uh the award. Good evening, council. Um, look, I want to give a little context uh for my nomination. Uh, it works very closely with the facilities department. They do
a lot of the dirty work, not just for for our department, but for public works and a lot of other departments of the city as well. And uh they make us in a lot of cases look good and uh get help us get very important things done. And
um in this instance uh I nominated uh Rob Doss, uh Brad Robinson, and James Hardy. But I also want to recognize uh Patrick Fields, Malik Richardson, Ryan Mail, and Billy Hughes. They're all a hardworking group, and they all deserve
credit. But in this instance, we can only we wanted to keep it lean. So, we uh we we focused on Rob and Brad and James because uh recently uh we reacquired the chamber, what was the chamber building at 2000 South
Washington Avenue and um we had to get internet to that building and um Rob and his crew were a big part of that. And uh I'm going to go ahead and read the entire nomination now. Uh I want to nominate Rob Doss and the facilities group for all the hard work they do around the city. Their versatile crew
can handle everything from street light maintenance to traffic signal programming and troubleshooting to other various projects uh such as Ethernet cable runs. They bust their tails and they do so without fanfare. Uh specifically, I want to highlight a recent project which we coordinated the
IT department uh with with the uh with the facilities group and that was to get uh internet to the new public works administration building at 2000 South Washington Avenue. While we could have went with a dedicated fiber run to the building at the cost several hundred dollars a month, we elected instead to
do a point-to-point connection uh which basically is a mast on top of the roof. It's a looks like a little satellite dish and it pushes uh Ethernet signal to that building. And in doing so, we were able to uh do that at a cost
savings to the city. And uh without Rob and his group uh we couldn't have done that. Uh because of unforeseen uh excuse me unfor because of unforeseen obstacles uh we had to make several readjustments to our plan and we uh
ultimately had to erect the 30-foot mast on top of city hall and we also had to do something similar out in front of the public new public works building. Uh this was all done in the middle of summer and we all had to work outside and those guys especially in uh 90 plus
degree heat for several days. We could have not made this project happen without their assistance and for this reason I believe uh Rob and Brad and James deserve to be recognized as co-employees of the month for the city of Titusville for September. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much uh Justin. And uh I
completely agree. Our facilities team are are unmatched. And again, to Justin's point, they do the dirty work without the fanfare. And I think it'd be appropriate uh for all of us as council to present uh this award to them. So, thank you very much for nominating them.
[Applause] Where were the other You got >> shot. [Applause]
city manager. >> Yes, sir. Next item is impervious lot coverage and presentation. As you recall, back in April, city council expressed concern over the um way that residents could measure the impervious
lot restrict uh coverage restrictions on their single family homes. And staff took it upon themselves to develop an interactive tool that would allow citizens to determine what type of uh structures they could place on their their property. And here to do a
demonstration of that tool is Brad Parish. Mr. Parish, >> thank you. This will be real short. Uh, last again as last year as requested by council, you asked for us to come up with something for to allow property owners to find out information on their
property as far as what be more restrictive than what they typically might find. And city of Titus was unique in having a area critical concern uh regulation to regulate the areas where you can put impervious surfaces on properties where where we draw our
water. uh we decided the best alternative was to just add to the list of maps that we currently have on the city's web page. And if you recall in the past, we created several of these um
maps like zoning and developments of applications and the statuses of those and everything else, all kinds of other information to be creat. So, we're going to add to this. This particular map that I'm going to show you is not published. It's draft. Um, I'm just going to show you basically what it does and what
allows people to find out about their properties. This during this uh through this research, we found that there really aren't a whole lot of properties affected by this and this is strictly only single family lots. That was the question that was
brought up to us. So, we only looked at single family lots. And if you recall, there are two main areas of the city that have that are regulated by the area critical concern ordinance. This is one particular area. It's a large swath of the city. It's a north part of the city and it has several subdivisions that
were approved since 1986, that's the original uh year of the ordinance that are impacted by this particular regulation. So, a lot of the subdivisions that were approved prior to that date, are not affected by the ordinance. So there are several new ones since 1986 and especially since 2005
when there was a major amendment to that that included wellfield regulations which are even more stringent that affected some of the newer subdivisions. So just to demonstrate what someone can find out about a piece of property, you can zoom in on it or add your address in
there and you should have be able to find out a lot of information about that particular property. I'm just going to bring up one that's that's vacant right now in one particular subdivision just to demonstrate exactly what you can find. And so when this is made available to the public, they'll be able to see what
their maximum impervious coverage is um on their property. In other words, how much impervious surface as far as building uh even uh asphalt, driveways, sidewalk, all of that is what's calculated in this particular regulation. So with that, I'll try to
answer any questions you have. Um it's just some general information. We'll add it to the rest of the maps that we have. >> Member Stokel. >> Yes. Um to clarify, is this only for the lots that are in the area of critical concern? >> I should Yeah, I'm sorry. There were a
few subdivisions that were approved through our regular plan development process, plan unit development process that are located outside of the areas of critical concern. And in those particular developments, the developer chose to impose a maximum pvious on
certain lots. So those are also included in this map. And >> if I remember right, this was brought up when we found out that somebody couldn't build a pool. >> Correct. >> Okay. And so this will tell them that whether or not they can or can't build a pool or will it just give them stats and numbers? >> It'll give them the stats the maximum
square feet allowed covered by improve service >> and then they should be able to know how much is already. Okay. All right. Thank you, >> council. Seeing none, thank you very much, Mr. Parish.
>> City manager. Moving on to boards and commissions. Uh 6A is the code enforcement special magistrate and that's a semianual written report included in your agenda packet and no action is required.
Thank you very much, city manager. Council, have any questions? Seeing none, city manager. >> Moving on to 6B is the Community Redevelopment Agency. And the recommended action is to appoint one member at large to the community redevelopment agency for a 4-year term
to expire on September 30th, 2029. And uh Mr. James Mutter has expressed his willingness and desire to serve on this board for a 4-year term to expire on September 30th, 2029. And there are currently no other applicants on file.
>> Thank you very much, city manager. City clerk, are there any cards on file? >> One card, Stan Johnson. >> All right, Mr. Johnson. My name is Stan Johnston and I've sent you an email about some problems that we're having and uh it's pretty serious.
I sent it to you today and it also involves the community, the CRA agency and those people who are members of the CRA and right here we have five members of the CRA. four out of five of them. I can't I can't say very much good about
what's going on in regards to this to subject of what's going on in the CRA and that is >> sewage sewage spray have this >> Mr. Johnson I'm cautioning you to stay on topic of whether we should appoint or not appoint a member to the CRA board.
Well, we should appoint one, but they they should understand right now is is the city has been the CRA and the council members are in big trouble. And I'm reporting you to the FBI regarding dishonesty, dysfunctional government. In this case,
four or five of you are members of the CRA. It's a big deal. And what what the city has done is they four or five of you members here right here of the CRA have approved the spraying of public the public with
sewage. >> All right, Mr. Johnson, please have a seat. You're not on topic and I already cautioned you. We're >> this person is going to join the CRA. >> Have a seat. Thank you. >> Okay. Please, Wanda, please notate that I'm sitting down under duress. Please.
Thank you. Duly noted, would the applicant like to come up and say something? All right. City council member Nelson, >> I think I've known Jimmy for a long
time, but worse, I've known his father and his mother. Um, and I think he'd do an excellent job. And normally when we only have one applicant, we hold off. But I think in this case
I'd like to proceed. >> That can be a motion. >> Second. >> All right. I have a motion by member Nelson, second by Vice Mayor Cole. Is there any further council discussion? All right. Seeing none, all those in favor say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously.
Thank you very much and congratulations. Appreciate you serving our community, >> city manager. Yes, sir. The next item is 6C. The North Boulevard County Hospital District Board and the North Bard County Hospital District Board semi annual report will
be presented and Mr. Stanz will be doing the presentation. >> Okay. >> All right. Good evening, honorable Mayor Connors and members of city council. I'm Stan Ratz, the vice chairman of the Parish Medical Center board of directors. Is my
honor to present the Parish Medical Center semianual report for 2025. As part of our enabling legislation, Parish Medical Center serves as a special district of the state of Florida. Twice a year, we come before city council to report on how we are
fulfilling our mission to serve this community. A written report has been provided to all members of council and includes some additional information. My presentation this evening will highlight just a few of the many exciting milestones achieved within Parish healthcare since our last update
in February. To begin, Parish Medical Center was proudly recognized by the city of Titusville as a 2025 sustainability leader in recognition of our outstanding dedication and demonstrated efforts in alignment with the Titusville
sustainability action plan. The award was presented during the city's first sustainability leadership awards program in April. Parish Medical Center shares a deep respect for our community and the beautiful environment that surrounds us on the Florida Space Coast. We are proud
to continue engaging in sustainability initiatives that help shape a healthier future for all of Titusville and beyond. We are equally proud of the ways that we recognize and support our care partners, a term used within Parish Healthcare to describe all of our employees,
providers, and volunteers. The Daisy Award is an international recognition program embraced by more than 6,000 healthc care facilities across 39 countries. It honors the exceptional and compassionate care nurses provide every day. Paris
Healthcare first partnered with the Daisy Foundation in January of 2025, opening nominations from patients, families, and co-workers. Since then, we've received more than 150 nominations. On May 8th during National Nur Nurses
Week, Parish Medical C Center's Chief Nursing Oper Off Officer Lisa Dickerson presented our inaugural Daisy Award during a celebration in our hospital's atrium. Our first honore was the Perryoperative Services nurse Melissa
Hamlin, who has served our hospital for more than 10 years. The celebration was made even more special with the heartfelt remarks from our county commissioner Katie Delaney and Mayor Andrew Connors. who also presented us with an official proclamation in honor of National Nurses
Week. We appreciate both leaders for attending and expressing their deep gratitude and admiration for the exceptional and extraordinary compassion and dedication demonstrated by our nurses. In addition to recognizing our nurses,
we also se celebrate our physicians, our hematologist and oncologist, Dr. I'm gonna get it wrong. Mar Marlini Cruz Amy, Dr. Cruz Amy, we'll do that.
Was named a finalist in the Wei Ventures annual women who rock awards in the excellence of caregiving category. This award honors trailblazing women who are making a me meaningful difference in the area of women's health, women's rights, and women in music. We are proud to
stand alongside her as her leadership and compassion were recognized on a larger scale larger scale stage. In March, Parish Medical Center became the first hospital in Bvard County to introduce pulse field ablasion, a groundbreaking treatment for atrial
fibrillation, although also known as aphib. Championed by Dr. uh our cardiologist and electrphysiologist Dr. AJ. This event innovative procedure was performed in our state-of-the-art cardiac electrphysiology lab. To date, our team
has successfully completed 78 procedures, keeping Parish Medical, excuse me, Parish Healthcare at the forefront of cardiac care. Not all of our proudest moments involve technology or awards. Sometimes they're found in a simple human act of
compassion. Last month, our team helped fulfill the heartfelt wishes of James, a patient bravely battling stage four colon cancer, who shared that he wanted to marry his longtime partner, Melissa with he shared that with his care team.
Within one week, our chapel became a wedding venue. Our nurse's breakroom transported into a reception hall and love filled every corner of our hospital. Staff and community partners came together to provide the couple with the details with all the details for their special day, including flowers,
photography, wedding officient, custom wedding cake, an intimate wedding reception, and more. As the newly beds exited the chapel, more than 100 care partners lined the hospital for a celebratory clapout. This celebration was more than a wedding. It was a
reminder that healing takes many forms and that compassion, community, and humanity are at the heart of everything that we do. Parish Healthcare continues to grow, welcoming new providers to meet the needs of our north of our community.
Please allow me to introduce you to three of our newest providers. Dr. Mark Swarzerki. >> Got it. >> All right. I've been practicing.
>> Dr. Mark is a board-certified urologist with more than 37 years of uh urological care experience. Rebecca Forbes, an advanced pra practice registered nurse specializing in geriatric medicine.
Herman and lastly, Johari Fasin, a board-certified psychiatric mental health nurse practitioner. I couldn't let it go. >> Beyond clinical care, we extend our mission into the community through outreach, sponsorships, and donations.
This summer, we completed 260 youth sports physicals to support health and safety of young athletes in our north of our community. In partnership with who we play for, a total of 191 electroc cardiogram screenings were also completed. The $10 fee per student
supported the Just Parish Medical Foundation, sustaining athletic training services and providing future scholarships for high school students pursuing fields in healthcare. In May, we donated an automated
an automated external defibrill or an AED to Lifeoint Ministries. Our nursing education team also provided hands-on training to ensure their leadership could respond confidently in the event of a cardiac emergency.
At the United Way Space Coast annual awards ceremony, Parish Healthcare was honored as a top 25 most generous contributor for 2024. Together, our care partners raised more than $41,000 for the campaign,
contribute continuing our long-standing partnership with United Way. Through our annual employee giving program called Circle of Giving, our care partners raised $65,000, surpassing our goal by $10,000. This year's Wizard of Oz inspired
campaign was called There's No Place Like Parish. These funds support programs throughout uh the Chess Parish Medical Foundation. In partnership with the Titusville Chamber of Commerce, we served as the presenting sponsor for this year's Write
It Down community bike ride. Celebrating its sixth year, the event had more than 300 cyclists to attend. Not only did we serve as the presenting sponsor, but we also had a visible presence at the bike ride with an interactive booth and representatives from our health and
wellness center. Our cardiologist, Dr. Andre Gabriel was also in attendance to speak with the community regarding heart health. We are also proud to once again serve as a presenting sponsor for the city of Titusville's Red, White, and Boom Fourth
of July celebration at San Point Park. As the chamber sponsor for the as a champion sponsor for the economic outlook brunch hosted by the Tuscalary Chamber, we supported local panel of leaders, experts, and community
visionaries from across the space industry. At the economic development council's annual meeting, Parish Healthcare proudly served as the exclusive hospitality sponsor with board chairman Robert Jordan providing opening remarks. This year we sponsored project
graduation for all three local North Bard high schools including Titusville Astronaut and Space Coast Junior Seniors High Care Partners from our labor and delivery team joined North Bard's greatest baby shower where our midwife Juda Syron served as guest speaker for
several of their uh informational sessions for expecting parents. Just as our commitment to continue to care contend, excuse me, just as our commitment to care extends beyond medicine, it also extends beyond our
walls. Parish Healthcare is proud to give back in the following ways to further support our community. In partnership with the Space Coast Health Centers, LifePoint Ministries, and Under the Bridge Ministries, we hosted our second annual hopeful heart supply drive to collect items for
individuals experiencing homelessness. Through the generosity and compassion of our community and care partners, more than 1,400 essential items were collected and donated, helping to provide relief and protection from Florida's hottest seasons.
When the Port St. on library need a large screen television for their program community programming. Parish Healthcare proudly donated a 98 inch television helping expand their offerings for residents. This year we launched our first healing
classrooms inspiring futures giveaway to support North Bard teachers. We received more than 130 applications and were able to provide back- toschool supplies to 30 local educators. And lastly, this summer we celebrated
the grand opening of Parish Healthc Care Center in North Titusville with a ribbon cutting ceremony in partnership with the Titusville Chamber of Commerce. The ceremony was open to the public and included remarks from Parish Healthcare Leadership, Board Chairman Robert
Jordan, Mayor Andrew Connors, Commissioner Katie Delaney, State Representative Chase Traymont, as well as self-guided tours of the new facility and the opportunity to meet providers at the new location, including medical hematologist oncologist Dr. Cruz Amy and
board certified surgeon Dr. Al Pecarero. to share more. I'd like to invite Matt Graville, assistant vice president of operations to the podium. I told him I was going to take the book, make you mad look, but I'm not. >> Thank you, Matt.
>> Thank you, Mr. Ritz. Imagine hearing the words, "You have cancer." Few moments are more frightening. A cancer diagnosis immediately sends the minds and hearts of patients and
families reeling. It's a confusing and overwhelming time. Questions swirl around prognosis, treatment, and countless additional concerns.
Where do I go? What comes next? Today, the answer is clear. Parish Healthcare in North Titusville. In June, we opened the doors to our newest facility, offering a
comprehensive accredited cancer program. Since 1989, our oncology program has been accredited by the American College of Surgeons Commission on Cancer, one of only a few in Bvard County. Our cancer
program includes medical oncology, surgery, diagnostic imaging, pathology, nurses, social workers, pharmacists, dieticians,
cancer care navigators, and more. All working together to provide patient and family centered care. We also offer advanced surgical techniques, sophisticated diagnostic testing,
chemotherapy, immune therapy, early detection screening, support groups, pallet of care, end of life care, an education and community resource center,
American Cancer Society programs, as well as a one-of-a-kind cancer boutique. At our ribbon cutting ceremony, one of the most powerful moments came when Miss Wanda, a lifelong Titusville resident,
shared her personal cancer journey. Miss Wanda was first diagnosed with breast cancer in the 1990s and again at the end of 2023. with her most recent diagnosis. She had been receiving treatment through Parish
Healthc Care's oncology program. As she described, when she was first diagnosed with cancer, she never imagined she'd be standing here today. Parish Healthc Care Center isn't just a building. It's a symbol of courage,
compassion, and possibility for those battling cancer. Cancer changes everything. It challenges your body, your mind, and your spirit. But it also reveals how resilient we are
and how powerful support can be. Our new location represents healing, not just through medicine, but through kindness and human connection. Every time Miss Wanda visits, our staff provides more than just care. They
provide hope to anyone walking through those doors for the first time, unsure or afraid, Wanda's been there. It's a place of strength, support, and second chances, and a reminder that
you're not alone. On August 7th, Wanda became the very first patient to complete her cancer treatment at our new center. A milestone that symbolizes hope and healing.
From cancer prevention to diagnosis, treatment and recovery, we can provide an integrated system of care which features technologically advanced healing environment and a world-class team of experts. The center continues to grow and add new
experts from various disciplines to the team. Families also benefit from coordinated care and seamless transitions between the care settings. Looking ahead, we are working with our care navigation and dietary teams to
launch outpatient nutritional services tailored specifically to cancer patients, ensuring comprehensive care during treatment. We recently partnered with Infigo Clinical Research located in Sanford, Florida. They're a multi- therapeutic
network of physicians whose mission is to bring cutting edge treatments to local communities through clinical trials. Their team is dedicated to advancing medical research and providing access to innovative health care solutions, and we
anticipate offering these opportunities by the end of 2025. Soon we will begin treating a wide range of cancers and benign conditions that respond to radiation therapy. We will take our patients throughout the
entire process from diagnosis through treatment to followup which includes breast cancer, central nervous system cancers, gastrointestinal cancers, genital urinary cancers,
gynecologic, head and neck, lung, lymphoma, leukemia, skin, soft tissue and bone. thyroid, metastatic, and many other benign
conditions. Displayed here is an imageguided radiation therapy machine. Before treatment, it takes detailed scans of the patient's body using a 360deree rotation.
The full rotation allows it to capture multiple angles of a tumor and the surrounding anatomy. This image helps guide the radiation beams so they can be delivered with pinpoint accuracy from different directions while minimizing exposure to
healthy tissue. This ensures that our patients receive the most precise and effective treatment possible. Thank you for allowing me to share some additional information on our newest location. I'll now turn the presentation
back over to Mr. Ratz. Thank you again, Matt. This concludes our semiannual report on behalf of Parish Healthcare, Mayor Connors, and members of city council. Thank you for your continued support. Together, we are building a healthier, stronger Titusville. We'll
now welcome any questions that you may have. >> Thank you very much, Mr. Ratz, Mr. Grey Bill, for the presentation. Vice Mayor Cole, >> I would be remiss if I didn't say how proud I am to be and have been a member
of the parish medical center board for the last 25 years. As vice mayor of the city of Titusville, I want to say how proud we are to have this facility in North Bard. And it it's just I I'm always amazed
every time I go to a a board meeting with the innovation that we have come up with. And it's through the leadership of Dr. Mkhitaryian that this has happened. I say I've been on the board for 25 years. George has been
the CEO for 20 for 24 of those 25 years. And it's just a pleasure being there and seeing the things that we do in our community, even having a wedding for someone who otherwise would probably not have a wedding and the philanthropic
thoughts and the things that parish does in our community a lot of people are really not aware of. So I say to the staff, thank you so very much for what you do for our community. >> Well said. Thank you, Vice Mayor Cole.
Member Nelson, >> I just want to say I agree with Herman, but when I got to the wedding part, there was I was significant. I mean, that was just special. >> Yeah. >> So, thank you.
>> See, and nobody else from council, I too would like to re reiterate those sentiments. I can tell you my wife was at that wedding and the report I got back was there wasn't a dry eye in the police. >> I'm sure. >> So, uh, thank you for all that you do and we appreciate you coming before us tonight. Thank you.
>> Thank you all, >> city manager. is moving on to item D is the Titusville Environmental Commission and the recommended action is to accept the resignation of Titusville Environmental Commission alternate member Joshua Kosy
with an unexpired term that will expire on November 30th, 2026. appoint one alternate member with an unexpired term that will expire on November 30th, 2026. Additionally, appoint one regular member
with an unexpired term to expire on November 30th, 2027. As far as candidates, we have Jason Miller, Nathan Rothell, and Stan Johnson have expressed their willingness and desire to serve on this board as regular
or alternative alternate member. In addition, Kevin Rosa, who is currently serving on the North Bard Commission on Parks and Recreation as a city appointee, wishes to serve on both boards. He has expressed his willingness and desire to serve on this board as a
regular or alternate member. Thank you very much, city manager. City Cler, how many cards do we have on this item? Five. Of the five, how many are applicants? >> One. >> One is an applicant. >> Yes, sir.
>> Okay. Well, we'll get right to the cards. Kevin Rosa. >> Kevin Rosa, Hardy Street, Titusville. Good evening, council. Uh, many people know that I'm in the river every other day or more. I'm into only wind sports.
Uh, wind surfing, kite surfing, hydroofoiling. I'm in it, on it, under it. I'm immersed in the water. You could say I'm baptized in it just about daily. I recently explained why some people think that per capita Titusville is a
poor city and now others think the water is dirty. We can't be both. I would like to do everything in my power to end the reputation of having dirty water. I'd like to relay an all too common scenario that happened to me this past Friday. I was wind surfing at Parish Park. As I
got into the water, a lady yelled from her car window, "Isn't that water dirty?" Didn't even get out of the car. Um, the water's um I've been in the water at its worst. I unknowingly kite surfed right through the big spill from
the Sanpoint Force Main. Then I knowingly wind surfed it. Wind surfing it the next day and the following days. I'm fine. Tony Shifelo says, "I've probably built up an im immunity to it." And I think she might be right. Um, the water is getting cleaner. I see herds of
manity, lots of seagrass. Let's keep the water quality moving in the right direction. Nothing will stop me. Nothing will keep me out of the water. However, I want it cleaner for the locals, the tourists, the wildlife, and for the future. Thank
you. >> Thank you, Mr. Rosa. City clerk. >> Yes sir. Next card is K St. An K St. An Tisville Tree Team Maryland Avenue. I wish to recommend to you the
appointment of Kevin Rosa to TEC. Kevin Rosa moved to Tyville to wind surf on the Indian River Lagoon. While boating on the lagoon, he developed a deep attachment to its waters, inspiring a passion to keep these waters as clean as
possible. Kevin is currently employed full-time by keep doing the hard work of removing invasive species along the causeways and picking up trash along the causeways that might otherwise end up in the lagoon. Kevin
volunteers with Titusville Tree Team to plant trees in parks and keep them watered until established. Kevin is a member of the North Bard Parks and Recreation Commission. Kevin has made several good recommendation to parks and recreation, including a launch for
non-motorized boats at Sandp Point Park, speed bumps at Parish Park, and removal of invasive species at Sherwood Park. Being on the parks and rec commission, Kevin would bring insight to TEC on the urban forest management plan's goal of
creating a roadmap to enhance and preserve the community forest, including planting plan strategies in city parks and publicly owned land. If appointed by council, Kevin would bring his expertise and passion to the lagoon
and to our parks and to our trees uh to the TEC. Please consider appointing Kevin Rosa to the TEC. Thank you very much. >> Thank you, Miss K. Sen Clerk. >> Tony Shel. Good evening, Shuffalo Tropic Street.
You know, I'm a cheerleader for your citizen advisory boards, and I even sometimes cheer some of staff's suggestions. So, I regularly attend the various boards as issues come before them concerning my community, Canaveral
Heights, you know, the one west of the tracks in the poor section of town where the historic Norwood House is located. So when I stand before you, you know, it is an important issue that um brings me here as a community member. I wanted to stand to speak for James Mutter. He left
already. That was a good appointment. Good choice. Thank you. Um but I don't want to mimic our town crier, Mr. Johnston, by turning in too many cards to speak. So I'm going to put in a good word for Mr. Mutter now. Um he's a great asset to our community and he's appeared
before the historic board several times while he was thoughtfully rebuilding that beautiful building on the corner of our downtown historic district. But about the appointment to the TEC, I have a recommendation. Please consider Jason Miller as your first choice appointee to a regular position on the environmental
commission. and as an alternate Kevin Rosa Rosen who should attend the meetings as a leazison with the parks and recck department as Miss Kay um pointed out. Now the entertainer in me wants to introduce Stan Johnston as a
preferable candidate if only to put to rest some of his issues because then he'd be in a position to really find out what's going on. But I considered Miller's qualifications and was most impressed with his background in
environmental science, his bard eels work, the volunteer work at the wildife refuge, he's even in the Rotary Club. So while there is one other candidate, the TEC was his third choice and I
highly recommend he apply now for the Board of Adjustment and Appeals, his first choice, because there is an opening, I've heard. So please appoint Mr. Mr. Miller to the TEC and Mr. Rosen as the alternate so he can do both parks
and wreck and the TEC. Thank you. >> Thank you very much, Miss Tony. City clerk >> Tom Abbott. >> Good evening. So, I met uh Kevin about eight years ago wind surfing here in Titusville. Uh and
uh we found we have a lot of common interest. Uh besides water sports, we both uh were prior arborist in our preceding jobs. Uh Kevin was more on the ground doing uh tree preservation and uh
some removal. I did it part-time as my job as a state land forester. We both also have a love for the environment, especially the Indie River, Indian River Lagoon. Uh, as a wind surfer, you spend a lot of time waiting for the wind. Even if you
believe the forecast, it never comes out the way you think it was going to be. So, you get there and you realize there's no wind. So, you end up talking to people. And, uh, I got to talking to Kevin. As most people, all they want to do is talk about wind surfing and kite
surfing, etc. Kevin, it seems like we always got involved with environmental topics such as smart growth or effects of storm water drainage on the Indian River Lagoon or even the need for infrastructure to keep up with uh proposed development or ongoing
development. Um, also, uh, when the winds were light, sometimes I'd drive by and there'd be Kevin picking up litter. He'd be in the lagoon uh picking up rebar concrete blocks out of there, getting
rid of it to make it safe for everyone. And then he'd be uh seems to be taking photos of everything from fish kills, dumping violations, tire ruts made by trucks on the shoreline, uh pictures of horseshoe crabs, which he I guess he
said he shares with the fish and wildlife biologists and other activists concerned with uh horseshoe populations. um as you know he's environmentally active being on the parks and wreck but he's also uh during the uh uh review and
the uh proposal of the current uh uh parish park he formed an organization called Nemo and that was to uh let people know what's going on with the review process and the approval process and in case anybody had some
environmental concerns or myself as a wind surfer make sure there is uh there be access to the shoreline to launch my wind surfer. Um he also does civic-minded. He uh
volunteers to teach the uh University of Central Florida Sailing Club how to win surf. He's doing that for free. And he was able to do that by acquiring the necessary equipment by reaching out to the wind surf community and getting donations. And I thought that was pretty
smart of him. So, um, as a prior member of a conservation commission myself, I think he'd be a great asset to Titusville's environmental commission. He's high energy, great organizer, civic-minded, and open up to new ideas. >> Thank you very much, sir.
>> City clerk. >> Yes, sir. Steven Scott. >> Hello. Uh, Stephen Scott, 514 Dallas Pine. I also wanted to uh nominate uh Kevin Rosa for this position. Also, I'm a sailor. So, that's where we met. Um being in the river and kayaking and
doing uh kayak tours for a little while as well, I get, you know, get the um you get into the river and you see how it is. And I've seen a lot of improvement this year, but I'd like to see that continue. And somebody that's actively doing his part and caring about the
environment is somebody that I'd like to see in that position. everybody else has said plenty of things that I can back up on, but um I just wanted to see Titusville known for the clean water also. So, um he's passionate person, very thorough as
you guys can probably see and being in those two positions, I think it would be very good um for the town, but I don't need to. We've had so many speakers. So, thank you. >> Thank you very much, sir. City clerk. Yes, we have two more cards we received after you asked for that count. Um,
Jason Miller, >> by the way, if you are an applicant and you didn't put a card in, I was going to call you after all the cards were called, but I appreciate it. >> I wasn't sure. I figured I'd throw it in there just in case. So, um, thank you all for considering my application. Uh, and thank the the lovely lady that gave
me an endorsement there. I didn't know that was a thing. But, um, as my case said, I I did, uh, major in environmental science and I did do that degree later in life. I didn't graduate until 2019. Uh did that during my time in the Coast Guard. And when I retired from the Coast Guard a few years ago, we could have moved anywhere we wanted to,
but we chose to come back here to Titusville. Um largely because of the lagoon and because of the waters around this area and just all the all the beautiful natural spaces we have. I am on the Bvard County Environmentally Danger Lands uh selection management committee as well. Um, and so I I really
am trying to involve myself more and more in these uh citizen groups. Um, after a really bad uh mountain bike crash last year, it's become really hard for me to work a regular job. And so I've decided instead to just squeeze
things a little tight, work off my retirement, and and do more of these volunteer things. So, um, Titusville is my home. I chose to come here. I have a lot of different options and my hope is to help make it so that my kids want to
stay here when when they grow up. So, I go out on the river and and the wildlife refugees with my boys all the time and it's just it's a great place to be. I love it. So, being on this commission would mean a lot to me. So, thank you. >> Thank you very much. Mr. Jason, city clerk.
>> The last call is Stan Johnston. Stan Johnson here and I uh I took some lessons in kite surfing and uh from uh uh what's his name over here? Uh Kevin
Kevin Rosa. And uh it turns out that uh I'm a horrible uh kite uh kite surfing, but I did do some wind surfing. So, but anyhow, he's he's a good man. Also, I if you notice, I've got six signs here. They all have to do with the issues of
the Titusville Environmental Commission. And uh that's pretty serious serious stuff that's going there. In fact, this council has um disputed u the uh TEC on a number of occasions and unanimously uh
the TEC has has done some things and just recently is that I sent an email actually also even today but on September the 2nd I sent an email to uh Mr. Connors and uh uh I'll read a little bit to you. >> Mr. Johnson, I would use this time to
highlight why you're a good candidate to be able to >> You need to use this time to talk about why you're a good candidate to be appointed to the TEC. That is what we're doing right now. >> Okay. I'm a good candidate for that and and and I'm working for it because uh uh
I'm a professional engineer and I have some rules to follow to protect the health public health uh safety and welfare of the public which the council is failing to do and which you have been reminded by the TEC which I remind you again by saying is that I pray for God's
discipline to awaken you to your evil and shortage of humility and for you to do God's on this matter. Not evil works of spraying people with sewage. You're neither a good Samaritan nor nor a good shepherd
nor our neighbor. That's Luke 10. When you promote evil as acceptable or okay, you and others have su successfully scammed the public as con artists and shyers to deliberately trick and harm innocent people. Amen. That love never
fails. So, we're still in this situation where uh there's a conflict. Hey, John. uh there there's a conflict that uh uh uh and also I I sent you an email today
uh dated September 23rd about the about the same issue that the city is doing is that uh and that I've contacted a number of people including uh Will Shiner our our state attorney um our city m
um and and also um the um governor and also the FBI about crimes that this city is committing against our against our environment. So, I'm I'm a candidate. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Johnson. City clerk.
>> All right. City council member Nelson. >> Um, I'd like to start with the resignation of Joshua Kachi Coy. >> Member Nelson, may I interrupt? I apologize.
Um, Mr. Nathaniel, would you like to come up and say something? >> Oh, uh, I'm sorry. I did make that announcement that I was gonna call on applicants if they had not put a card in. So, uh, I apologize.
>> Thank you guys. Um, Nathan Rothell, Emory Rothell, really. Um, from here, been here all my life. Both my wife and I retired. I live on the river. I'm in the river. Oh, live closer. But I just want to say I I put my name in for every now and then uh for
different things on the boards. So I just want to make sure people we're being represented and this is actually the first time I've come to a council meeting and I don't know these these gentlemen here but my
goodness you have some really good people to choose from. I would always like to be considered wherever I can help. Um, and I don't remember their names. I think it was like Jason Miller, Mr. Rosa. Fantastic.
Um, my goodness, what qualified people we have wanting to step up. Um, so I always want to be considered wherever I can help. I don't believe I have near the qualifications of those two guys that I just heard with
what all they've done, but when the time comes, hopefully I'll be ready to help a little bit more. Just a guy that lives on the river. So, but anyway, thank you. >> Thank you very much, sir. All right. Sorry for interrupting you, Member Nelson.
>> So, I was going to say I'd move to accept the resignation. Uh, Mr. Coy, >> second. >> I have a motion and I have a second. Any further discussion from councel? Seeing none, all those in favor say I. >> I.
>> All opposed. Motion carries unanimously. Thank you very much. And then I would move to appoint um Jason Miller as the regular member of TEC. >> Second. >> All right. So I have a motion from
member Nelson and I have a second from member Mscoso. Uh any discussion from council vice mayor >> Cole? Okay. Uh seeing none. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> All opposed. Motion carries. Thank you very much.
Member Nelson. >> And the last position, uh, we usually have a rule that somebody can't be on two boards. And for that reason, Kevin would not be qualified. However,
one of the boards, parks and wreck, as I understand it, is a county board. And we do have people that serve on county boards and on city boards. So my motion would be to appoint Kevin Rosa as the
alternate. >> Second. >> I have a motion for member Nelson, second from Vice Mayor Cole. Discussion. Member Stokal. >> Yeah, I just want to make sure if Kevin is wants to be the alternate or not because it was up for regular. So I just want to clarify with him if he is
interested in that. Uh, I can tell you people miss meetings all the time. >> People miss meetings all the time. >> So, if you're an alternate, you can slide right in there. >> Okay. Yeah. So, I wanted to make sure of that. And then to get clarification, because it is an alternate from our city
attorney, is that okay for him to be on parks and wreck ambian alternate? >> It it it would be and it and and and as stated, it would even be if if it was a regular member because that because of county, >> it wouldn't be a dual office holding situation. Not with these kind of boards. >> Okay, great. Okay, that's all I had.
>> Yeah, you don't want to bring up the fact that the vice mayor's on the another board. >> I'm just kidding. All right, so if I remember correctly, I have a a motion from member Nelson, a second from Vice Mayor Cole. We had some discussion. Any further discussion? All those in favor
say I. I. >> Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Thank you very much. Congratulations you two. Thank you very much. Thank you for all who applied. Um, now we're at the time of the meeting where were petitions or requests from the public. Non-aggenda
items. >> Am I seeing none? >> I know we do have Mr. Wilson here again. >> I'm sorry, who? >> Mr. Wilson on the flag. >> Okay. And >> I don't think he knows it needs to come up at this time. >> Mr. Wilson, would you like the floor?
Mayor Connor, council members, I was here uh the last meeting on September the 9th in regards to the correct display of the American flag And
okay, now I'm a fanatic on the display of the flag. One case in point is the fire department headquarters at 550 South Washington Street, right across
the street here. And I met with the fire chief and explained once again that I explained last time that the the fire department in front of the the flag poles in front of the fire
department contained American flag and a state flag. And right now they're the opposite way. the the observer any observer to the American flag should always be on the left. No matter where you go, the American flag is always on
the left and there why they don't have it on the left is beyond me. The fire chief stated, I said the front of the building is the headquarters with the administration offices and also the the
uh the flag poles are roughly 100 ft away in the front of it which be to the south. And then you got the parking lot and all the anybody looking at that from that point the flag should be the
American flag should be on the left and also anybody driving down North Washington would be the same way. The flag would be on their left but it's not. and he stated that he talked to the
city manager and the city manager said he didn't see any problem with the situation and I beg to disagree with that. I don't know whether the city manager is qualified to know how the flag is supposed to be displayed, but
any place you go in the country here or any place in Tinyfield or any on any stage in a church or school when you got two flags, the American flag is always on the left, no matter where you're at.
And I don't know what why they they're adamant about leaving the flag the way they got it over there. They've got the American flag is on the right and the state flag is on the left. But you go in
the administration office and coming out they've got two stands like you've got here and the American flag is on the left, the state flag is on the right. >> Thank Thank you very much, sir. >> Okay. >> Appreciate it. Stan Johnson, 860 Avenue, former uh
professional engineer, city of Titusville. Um, I want to mention this that Barbara Evans was up here at the last one of the last council meetings and she talked about a successful program. uh called so
to rescue our access to our beach. And I just want to say is that her and her husband were very successful in that movement. I was involved in it also. That was back in the 80s, I guess it was. It was some time ago. And uh so I'm
hoping that the the city will will might be successful again, prevail. Um, so I'm I'm thankful that Barbara came and spoke to us. Um, I um just handed Wanda an email that I
sent to all council members today. So, I don't see that I have to send you another copy because you already have it sent today to you at uh 2:31 p.m. And uh the the title of it is called a request for Titusville's meeting minutes to reflect document my
and all removals by Mayor Connors from podium that may be considered as violations of our constitutional rights of freedom of speech. This is an important issue and we just the city just approved uh the u
meeting minutes for uh two meetings in which I was removed from the podium under duress and I said that this was unconstitutional. Um the constitutional is important in fact is all you people here up in front of me and all these people in the
military including Mr. body, took an oath of office, including me and my my uh dad and many of my uncles and uh cousins and so forth. We've taken that oath of office. It says to protect and defend the uh Constitution of the United
States. So, you've taken that oath of office, but as far as I'm concerned, it looks like you're not honoring it. That's a big deal. So, that's why I've written this letter. And the letter furthermore goes on and says, "I therefore find it fitting and proper." It says, "I find it fitting and proper
for Tyville's meeting minutes to reflect document my and all removals by Mayor Connors from podium that may be considered as violations of our constitutional rights of freedom of speech. I therefore request meeting minutes reviewed today for meetings dated August 26 and September 11th to be
amended as requested. Please respond. I think you should do it. And I'm I'm asking uh Wanda if if if she will get permission from whoever she needs to do it that that that indeed is that uh uh when I'm removed is that uh
I'm uh included in the meeting minutes. >> Okay. Nobody responded. Thank you. Sorry. Nobody. No way. Petitions are requests from the public. Non-aggenda items. See none. City manager.
Yes. Moving on to consent. We have six items on the consent agenda. Do any member of council wish to pull any of the six items from the consent agenda? >> I'm not seeing any light, city manager, but I would like to pull item A. A.
I'll go ahead and uh read items 8B, C, D, E, and F. For the record, consent agenda item 8B, keep of our beautiful adopt an area program agreement. Approve the agreement
with keep of our beautiful KBB for the adopt an area program and authorize the mayor to sign the agreement. 8C granting easements to Florida Power and Light. Approve the requested utility easements to Florida Power and Light and authorize
city manager to execute the required documentation. 8 D Solar Lighting Space View Park. approved the award of the solar lighting space park contract to TPG Lighting of Sanford, Florida in the amount of 72,786
for the installation of 10 solar lights with associated poles and foundations at the Space View Park walkway and authorize the mayor to execute said contract pending appro actually the budget's been approved. E 8E
advisability acceptance of firefighter cancer decont De decontamination equipment grant program for FY26 accept firefighter cancer decontamination equipment grant award for the purchase of one personal
protective equipment PPE decon washer and one six set gear dryer and delegate authority to city manager DEXQ purchase order and any grant acceptance agreement the grant value of 36,000 44610
and fund from fire department operating budget not to exceed $15,000. 8F approve the emergency purchase order garden street state route 406 and US number one repair due to water main break. approved the emergency purchase
order issued to Massie General Contractors of Port Orange, Florida in the amount of 397 $34560 for the restoration of the impacted areas of Garden Street, State Route 406 and US1, including milling and asphalt
overlay related to the water main repair. >> Thank you very much. City manager, city clerk, can you call the cards for items B through F? >> Yes, sir. Um Kane an for item B. K. Hodgej Maryland Avenue. Um, yes. I
wish to support the agreement with this between the city and KBB for adopt an area. What a great idea. Don't just adopt a highway, but a whole area. I hope many community organizations,
especially youth groups, will participate so as to reduce the litter that lines our streets, fills up our baffle boxes at great expense for us to vacuum them out and often ends up in the lagoon. Please approve this agreement
with KBB and let's get the litter picked up. Let's spruce up Titusville. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Miss K. >> Got too excited. >> Sandra Ozone. Missandra. >> Well, I totally agree with Kay. Uh, I'm
Sandra Ozong with Keepar Beautiful, and I just wanted to uh say that we are very excited about uh partnering with the city of Titusville to get the uh adopt an area uh beaches, shorelines,
uh trails, parks, streets, etc. and and we're very excited to be working with the uh department the the city to get this going. And I also wanted to introduce to you uh a new member of keep
our beautiful staff in Coco living here in Titusville. U Miss Summer Will Brandt. Uh uh Miss Will Brandt, please stand with me. you will uh Miss Will Brandt is the environmental
education and programs coordinator for keep beautiful and part of um summer's role will be to coordinate the adoption area for the entire county of so we welcome her she's just joined in
September September 1st and I'm sure that uh with Titusville and all of us working together we will tidy up Titusville Thank you. Thank you very much. City clerk.
>> The last card is Stan Johnston on item um let's see B C no sorry item B C D and F. >> Stan Johnson. I'll start with uh number D. Solar lighting Space View
Park. I'm against the spending of the money that this much money because you need to consider what you've done. And uh if you look behind me, you'll see a skull and crossbones right there. Skull and cross. So I I posted a skull and crossbones at Space
View Park. Um uh after February the 18th uh which was in V it was what's his name? Jim Thomas was with me and we had two police officers come with us and and the city
of Tyville uh constructed a uh diversion burn and so this has to do with Space View Park. See what's going to Space View Park and anyhow so I put up a sign because the fountains were still on and u >> Mr. Johnson please get on topic.
>> This is this has to do with Space View Park. >> Not about the item on the table. >> Beg you pardon? >> It's not about the item on the table. Oh, it is. You're spending 72,000. I don't I'm against it. I just I just told you that. I don't I wish you wouldn't take my time because here's what's happened is that I wanted to bring this
sign forward to show to you. So, I would like Wanda to express in in the meeting minutes is that I I I'm asking to take this sign forward because you won't allow me. I believe that you're violating my lights of freedom of speech because I cannot bring this sign because
I had a similar sign of >> speech are not on the table. Please pardon. Your rights of freedom of speech are not what we are discussing. Please have a seat. You forfeit the remainder of your time. >> This is what happened to View Park. >> Please have a seat. >> Okay. >> Thank you.
>> I'm I'm doing this under duress. Wanda, >> thank you very much, Mr. Johnson. >> City clerk, is that the last card? >> Yes. >> All right. Thank you very much. Member Mscoso. >> Sure. I um I fully support the KBB initiative and so thank you for bringing that forward. Um, I think it would be
kind of neat if our council adopted an area. It' be good team building and leading by example. So, look at all these happy faces. Um, but I do have a question about this. Um, is this so is the city paying for
these signs to go in and then um like how is that working? Is that budgeted in already? >> This is not a budgeted item. >> Okay. All >> right. There's no cost to the city. >> So the so KBB is paying for the signage
and everything. Is that correct? Okay. >> $200. >> Okay, perfect. Thank you. >> All right. Um, real quick, uh, city manager, in the agreement, it says, um, the sign will be purchased and installed
by the city. >> It's not an item that is in currently in our budget, but we can find funds for it. I'm sure it's a nominal amount. >> All right, Mr. Cook, do you know how approximately how much the signs are going to cost not holding your feet to the fire? >> Uh, 20 to $30. We've made them in the
past uh for any donation areas. So, this will be made by our sign shop. >> Okay. So, I'm assuming city council doesn't have any issues with that. All righty. And with that being said, I'll entertain a motion. Member Nelson. >> Move to approve consent agenda items B
through F. >> Second. >> I have a motion and I have a second. Any further council discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor say I. >> Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Thank you very much. Looking forward to working with you guys. All right. City
manager Next item is um 8A. You pulled from the agenda resolution number 17-2025 amending resolution number 30-2023 relating to the registration fee for vacant properties with mortgages and
default. And the uh recommended action is to approve resolution 17-2025 establishing a $300 registration fee for real properties with mortgages at default. Thank you very much, city manager, city clerk.
>> We have one card. It's Dan Johnston. >> This this particular issue 8A is uh has to do with some that we've already had discussion on and I believe it was with I think it was Glenn Tolson. Is that correct? Yeah, Glenn Tullson about and u uh some
issues that have to do with this this item. I just I was just speaking on items 8B, 8 C, 8 D and F 8F. And so I was removed from speaking on those items just a few minutes ago. Um
which is I find it to be very disturbing considering that uh I I was just stopped couldn't speak anymore. Mr. Johnson, you're not on topic. I'm going caution you. So um uh on this particular issue
um I am concerned with this registration fee and mortgages being in default and this but it appears that this uh amount of $300 is is much less than some other
cities cities do but it seems to be more reasonable than what some cities do. So, uh, I'm not against it. Um, and I'm I hope I'm allowed to speak about it, although I wasn't allowed to speak about the other about, um,
three of the four items I was to speak on. So, I'm not going to speak anymore on this on this items, but um, just want to say again is Wanda, please uh, recognize what happened the last on 8
B, CD, and F. Thank you, Mr. Johnson. >> So, I I pulled this item uh for further discussion because, you know, it is a resolution, but not only that, but it contains a portion of our code, and
we're talking with the city attorney u how the code reads versus what the resolution states. Um, and I I believe when we initially kind of push forward with this, I believe the the fee we're paying to the vendor was $75 in the RP. I believe I read in the
contract resolution that it's split 50/50. 150 for them, 150 for us. Is that correct? >> The the current contract once it's signed would be that the city would receive 75% and Her properties would
receive $75. So, it splits the 150. Uh the uh direction was to bring back the resolution to raise the fees to $300, which would be a 150150 split. >> All righty. Because I read in the RFP
that it was a $75 fixed rate. Was that rate based on what we are currently charging? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. went with uh actually had to craft it due to the fact that that is the current uh code.
>> Uce the transition starts the $300 if approved this evening would then be in effect. So the contract would then reflect a 5050 share if you would as opposed to a dollar amount. And then
that way if we add services or or other type things, we wouldn't have to come back and and do the split again. >> Okay. Thank you very much for that explanation. I was just making sure I understood uh because I I noticed small
details like that of a a dollar figure change. Um, but the other issue I want to bring up with council is the way that our code is currently currently written is we're only requiring this registry one time a year. And it raises concerns
to banks who foreclose on our residents here in Titusville. Oftent times a bank will foreclose and then they'll sell that foreclosed mortgage to somebody else and then somebody else and somebody else. I mean, it's very possible that a note could change hands a couple times a
year. And so, and I do believe when we were looking at this, there are other cities that um require it more than one time a year. So, it would be my recommendation that we would charge uh a $300 registration fee twice a year to make sure that we're a keeping up with
the information needed and b, you know, let's be honest, we're charging out of town banks for closing on our people. You know, let's let's make sure that they are in compliance with our rules. Now, the issue I brought up with our city attorney is how could we do it? You
know, we could maybe amend the resolution to say we're going to collect a a $600 fee twice a year because really the fee is kind of what is uh able to be approved by resolution without a fullon ordinance change and how often we collect it. But that would be my
recommendation to to council and um I just wanted to bring that up and have y'all weigh in. Member Nelson, >> I didn't feel totally comfortable with that. On the other hand, when it goes from one bank to another bank, I don't have any problem charging that second
bank and that seems appropriate. >> Okay. I was just making sure. All right. Member Moscow. I mean, I see that uh Miami date county does it per registration. Is that kind of what you're That's what I would think could work, but I don't know how we codify that if that's uh the question. I'm not
understanding the $600 in the code. That's the part I'm a little confused on. >> So, it doesn't say anything about a dollar amount in the code. It's approved by resolution, the dollar amount, but in the code it says we collect the fee one time a year. Um, so the question is is if we'd move it to twice a year, we
would have to change ordinance or if per resolution if we take this dollar amount and just say, "Hey, we're going to do it twice a year um or a specific dollar amount paid out two specific times a year." It would be a potential way without having to full-on ordinance
change. Member Mscosa >> Glenn, do you know how often these um are changing hands? Do you guys keep track of that? And what would be your recommendation since you're kind of in this world? >> Well, actually, every time that it
changes hands and comes from one vendor to another, we we collect again each time. We've had some properties I've collected three or four times on already. Um, and again, it's at the direction of the council. If we go and you uh go to twice
a year, that would also have to be something that uh we may have to go back to era properties because that's that's not in their contract with the city currently. So it would be a ordinance change and then a contract change on top of it. But
Mr. Johnson's here. >> Thank you. Uh you can come up and talk if you want to. Member Stokl, did you have something while we wait for him to come up? >> Yeah, that was kind of my question is if we can see what is possible. Um, I mean,
if we need to do another ordinance change, I guess we can. I do feel a little frustrated just because we had already asked to do that and change the proc the fee last time and now I feel like we're changing it again potentially. But I'm not opposed to it. I just want to see what our options are
with the vendor to see can can you guys do it every time it changes? How does that work or what have you seen? >> Yes. So, uh, CJ Johnson, Hera, Property Registry, Melbourne, Florida. Um, so we track all the properties as they change hands. So, we we know and to answer the
question that was asked, it's very often. Um, and we have about half of our clients do it u by annually, so it's not an issue for us to track. >> Can I do a follow-up? Yeah. So with that, since it's right now it's once a
year that we have um what happens when it does change hands? Does that trigger anything on your end or do we just wait like hey you already did it in January and we may have to wait till January to see who that potential new owner is? >> So we track it internally um and then
we'll notify the party. It it really depends on the ordinance um language if there's a requirement to reregister with a change of party uh or if they just need to update information. So uh we'll track all that information and regardless of whether a
registration is owed or not, we notify the new party that there is a update requirement or a new registration requirement at the time that we notice the change. >> Okay. Okay. And then my I think my last question would be is it appears we might be going to needing to change our ordinance because right now it is once a
year. So if we were to want to potentially do it per registration, which is what I was hearing, would you recommend based on what you've seen with your clients that we do per registration or twice a year >> or can you say that? >> Yes. So the way that it would work if
there was an ordinance change would be that there be a requirement to register it twice a year. uh a or registration upon change of ownership. >> Okay. >> So, the registration would happen uh either uh every six months after the
filing of the initial foreclosure documents, which we would track those dates, or um every time it changes from one party to the next, which could happen more often than every six months. >> Yeah. And I think that's where I lean toward because I don't really want to make it cumbersome for them like every
six months if they're the same owner. Um, but if they're keep changing, I do kind of like the idea of every time it changes. So, okay. >> And I will say best practices nationwide right now is moving towards every six months getting fresher information uh that's more up todate.
>> Okay, that's good to know. >> Okay. >> And remember, it's just about crafting rules to hold these banks accountable to providing us the most up-to-date information. And just remember, these are people foreclosing on our citizens. And then >> correct
them or not is >> and then I'm wondering if we could do an ordinance change where it just says we have a registration process see the resolution that has the rules versus us saying once a year and then that gives us a little bit >> city attorney. >> Yeah, absolutely. I mean the the reason
we did this was in an attempt to to make it because it's easier to change dollar amounts by resolution. Um but you know it it was I assume not anticipated at the time that there'd be a desire to change from annual to to uh to by
annual. So um yeah we could do that and and clean up a few of the other things. >> Okay. That's kind of I think where I'm leaning toward. I'd rather I know it makes it a little bit longer but I'd rather do it right and have a system in place that works for us. Um that's kind of where I'm leaning. >> Yeah. So again appreciate the discussion
uh member Nelson. So, would it be easier to table and have you come back? >> Well, I mean, my thought would be since if if you pass this resolution tonight, that could that could put us into that new fee right now while staff and and
legal work on the ordinance changes because that's going to require two it's going to take a while to prepare and then two readings. So, it may be two or three months before the ordinance gets done. So, the people that are charging twice a year, what is their average rate that
they're paying? How much do they pay? >> Uh, well, there's there's many of them, but uh the average nationally is $350 every six months. Um, so I mean, Hillsboro County is have charging every six months. Um, you have many in in
Illinois and the Northeast doing that as well. Florida's starting to move uh in that in that area. Most a lot of the Florida ordinances were in place uh basically 2008 2009 2010. So they need some updates anyway um according to what
the best practices of coming out are. So uh and we've been helping many of the cities and counties uh change their ordinances, but um we're seeing the national average is 350 every six months. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you, Member Nelson. And again, I
appreciate the discussion. uh council. I just remember from the last time this came before us and we were talking about this, I I those figures stood out to me, you know, of an average dollar amount of $350 every six months. And I kind of want to make sure that we're we're in
line with that. Um so that we're um doing the best thing for our our residents here. Um with that being said, uh under the recommendation of Mr. Stokes over there, anybody want to make a motion to approve the resolution? Move
to approve resolution number 172025. >> Second. >> Um I have a motion for member Nelson. Second from Vice Mayor Cole. I'd be remiss if I didn't say thank you for your insight and your input. Uh city clerk. >> Member Muscosa. >> Yes. >> Member Nelson.
>> Yes. >> Mayor Connors. >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Cole. >> Yes. >> Member Stokel. >> Yes. >> Motion carries. Thank you very much. >> Uh Vice Mayor Cole. Do we need a motion >> for the other thing?
>> No. No. We staff and and we have your we have your direction. Good. Absolutely. >> Thank you. >> Because I'm not afraid to call roll call vote. >> I'm just kidding. Thank you. Uh Mr. Stokes, city manager. >> So, moving on to ordinance second
reading 9A. The applicant has requested the right-of-way vacate application number 2-2025 to be tabled until October 14th. >> Do we need a motion to table that? >> Yes, sir. >> Yes. And and I'd table it to a date and
time certain so that uh so >> October 14th >> October 14th at 6:30 p.m. >> Okay. Move to table um right away vacate application 2-2025 to October 14th. >> Second.
>> I have a motion and I have a second. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? Motion carries. Thank you very much. City manager. >> The next item is quasi judicial and city attorney will read the rules for that hearing. >> Yes. Uh during the public hearing
portion of the meeting, anyone wishing to speak on a quasi judicial item must first sign a public hearing agenda card and sign the oath contained thereon swearing to tell the truth, the full truth, and nothing but the truth. These cards are located at the table at the entrance of the chambers and should be
provided to the clerk. Those speaking in favor of a request will be heard first. If you have photographs, sketches, or documents that you desire the city council to consider, they must be submitted into evidence and will be retained by the city. Please submit such exhibits to the city clerk. City clerk,
have you received signed oath cards from persons wishing to speak before the city council swearing to tell the truth, the full truth, and nothing but the truth on this item? Staff and applicant, please ensure all witnesses that intend to speak have signed an oath card and presented it to
the clerk. If there is anyone present who has not signed a note card that wishes to speak on this quasa judicial item, please submit a card to the clerk at this time. Uh, city clerk, has all agenda items been properly advertised? Okay. Um, in the event that a council
member has received uh an exparte communication, verbal or written, outside of this hearing, the council member shall disclose the identity of the person, group, or entity with whom the communication took place and the subject of the communication, including all opinions or facts discussed. Any
written communication must be disclosed and made part of the record. Also, in the event that the member has conducted an investigation or site visit or received any expert opinions regarding this quas judicial item, said visitor opinion shall be disclosed. If written
expardate communications exist, verify that applicant has received them and has had the opportunity to review and is ready to proceed. Uh, regarding the order of this item, first the council will receive staff's presentation followed by a presentation by the applicant. Um, following the
applicant's presentation, the floor will be open to the public comment. The applicant will may make a rebuttal. Witnesses may be cross-examined by the applicant, a party, council, or a staff representative as authorized by council. The council's decision must be based on
confident substantial evidence pursuant to Florida statute. If the council denies this application for this development permit, the council shall say site the applicable portion of the ordinance, rule, statute, or other legal authority for the denial.
Thank you very much, city attorney, Mr. Parish. >> The staff or the agenda item begins on page 335 of your report of your agenda. And the reason why this conditional use permit is being brought before you for
um an light industrial use to be located in existing building on Gryom Parkway is because the property although it is zoned M1 which which is a light manufacturing um or warehouse zoning district. The
code specifically says in section 28-210 C1A states in the light industrial services and warehousing M1 zoning district manufacturing a conditional use permit shall be required when the comprehensive plan future land use designation is not industrial.
And so on in your packet you will see maps including the aerial which shows clearly shows the building surrounded by a lot of vacant and unimproved properties. the pro uh there is a map in there the future land use map that shows the commercial land use on that property
with another map in the agenda for the zoning that shows M1. So they are required to go through this process. We reviewed it based on the criteria of the code. Our staff report begins on 337 of your packet. We did not find anything
that was related to a nuisance that uh that we could recommend denial or even special conditions on this. So we recommend approval as consistent with the comprehensive plan, the land regulations, and the criteria for conditional use permit. >> Thank you very much, Mr. Parish. City
Clerk, >> we only have one card. It's Dan Johnston. Uh my my name is Stan Johnston. Uh I've worked for the city of Titusville for uh over seven years as a professional
engineer. And I was paid about I was paid a good bit higher than what they wanted to pay, but they paid it anyways to get me. And I've been a member of Talbet PI Engineering Honorary Society. And I'm the only only engineer and
surveyor that I know of who has who was who was still active who has done site plans, the surveying, the planning and the uh uh surveying before surveying
asbuilt survey and so forth. Only one in this county and as far as I know even in Orange County. Maybe there is somebody but I don't know of anybody. So I have uh some skills that I'm sharing with you because uh in many areas I'm I'm an expert. I'm
not an expert in everything, but uh in regarding site plans and subdivisions, I'm an expert as can also be witnessed by um my one of my former uh supervisors, Richard Popka, who was
city engineer and also by u u what's in my a portfolio they have uh as me as as my ex in performance. evaluation that's still in the under human resources. Um
so it's very good it's very good evaluation that I have although I have this evaluation as you can understand is that I'm completely disrespected and um u maligned by the city council
four or five of you including just horrible things. So uh on this particular issue though um I am I consider myself to be an expert on on this and also of the previous issue the
rightway vacation. So I I put down on this one is that um uh I'm certainly uh I believe that I want to say is is that I do not have any objections to this at this time. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Mr. Johnson. City clerk, no other cards. >> All right, we'll close this public hearing. >> Member Nelson. >> Uh, based on staff's analysis, I would move to approve
uh CU8-2025 to provide to permit light manufacturing use at 7980. >> Second. >> I have a motion. I have a second. Any further discussion from city council? Seeing none, city clerk,
>> I just want to verify that that's consistent with the approved concept planned as well. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Member Nelson and Vice Mayor both agreed. The motioner and the second. >> Um roll call is member Nelson.
>> Yes. >> Mayor Connors. >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Cole? >> Yes. >> Member Stokel? >> Yes. >> Member Moscoso? >> Yes. >> Motion carries. Thank you very much. Appreciate your time. Mr. Parish, city manager 2024.
It was advertised. However, the applicant withdrew it prior to the agenda being published. So therefore, the item will not be heard. >> All righty. City manager. Moving on to the next item is old business and that is the Titusville uh
social services ad hoc committee. And as you recall at our last meeting uh Terry Franklin, neighborhood services director uh provided the advisability for uh staff to form an ad hoc committee um to
u go over the Harry T. War center social services uh capabilities and activities. and she's here to address any questions concerning the application process. >> Hi, Mr. Eric. >> Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, and
Council. Um, so we have uh before you um the recommendations to create this a ad hoc committee. On page 364 of your agenda, you'll find uh the recommendations that we have outlined uh for the a ad hoc committee and um the
creation of uh the temporary committee is to assist staff in understanding uh the community's views on the gaps in social services not only in Titusville but countywide. Um some considerations
that I looked at and um coming up with recommendations included um our annual survey process that we conduct with our service providers. Uh we do that annually to gain information about who's
out there, what's out there, and where is those services provided. So I think um the ad hoc would play a key role in analyzing the gaps and I see it as complementing that annual process um
that we have with our providers. We would like to establish the ad hoc committee as quickly as possible. So I have provided an application deadline of November 15 in the recommendations so we can get going. And I just wanted to
clarify um I noticed in reading over this that I didn't really outline what I wanted to say in the objective part um for the appointments of the members to the committee. So where it says that
five members are appointed by city council that was so that each of you could appoint a member to the committee. If there was two additional committee members that we would like to include, then those would be through a majority vote.
And if you have any other questions, I'll be glad to answer. >> Thank you very much. Um, can I get to the cards first? >> Sure. >> Yes, sir. Tony Shel, Tropic Street. Um, while I really appreciate the intention of this and
Miss Franklin's efforts, I only have one thing to say, and that is that the timing of the meetings has proposed a really kind of um an imposition on on working people. It's proposed that there'll be one meeting
for an hour on a Wednesday afternoon at 3:00 p.m. And I would think that the people that will be represented by the um different areas that are served, they're mostly poor people, poor working
people. And I would think that taking a Wednesday afternoon at 3:00 to go to a one hour, possibly two hour meeting would be kind of a real imposition. So I would like to see if we could not um adjust the time of the meeting, but
otherwise, wow, what a great plan. I really miss the community services that were at this center before um things changed. I kind of figured it was going to be a lot forever and then it just one day wasn't there anymore. And um there
were a lot of services I think you'll find that that neighborhood needs. And um I realize it's not just the one community, the one neighborhood. I do realize I I looked at your maps and things, but I think no matter what community they're coming from, 3:00 on a Wednesday afternoon will be difficult. I
know that because I'm on the historic preservation board and we meet on a Monday at 100 pm and there are not even any police here to check and make sure I'm not bringing weapons to the room. Gee, you know, so timing. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Miss Chev. City clerk >> Lynn Golden. Lynn Golden, 1100 Country Club Boulevard, Titusville, Florida. First of all, I would like to tell the board to please keep Sister
Wendia Houston in prayer. She lost her daughter, I think yesterday or Sunday, and she's in the hospital herself over in Orlando. and she was an ex uh employee for the city for many years.
So, keep her in prayer. Um, as I say, my name is Lynn Golden and I am the president of the concerned citizen group. I'm here tonight to express my concern in the community about the social service center at Harmore Center
on Dillion Street. I have two ants. One is 101, one is 97, and they're still living in the community. They grew up, and they could give you history about the community and the things that once was
provided at the social service center. Community service is important because it strengthens our community, but by providing vital support and filling services gap. I talked to several people yesterday about what they would like to
see to come back into the social service center. People that worked in profession office, people come in and said, "Where do we go for an answer? What do we do?" And they were willing to be one of the volunteers on the board.
They are tired of going places and talk to people for 30 minutes on hold when they can face to face people if we bring them back into the social service center. I would like to see someone that lives predominant in the neighborhood
according to I think Terry has a map or something where they need to be. I would like to see a uh suitable age appropriate that we just don't pick old people like me, but we pick young people to be be on this committee. And I also
like to see the ticity community group, not all blacks that live in the community, but whites that live in the community expanded or whoever. I also like to enhance the community. the things that need to come back. Food
banks networking and this will help our communities and to assist other. It teaches us how to help others in need ones are less fortunate than us. The community service broaden your horizon and help to understand. So I'm praying
that the application and the board members that you would choose is based on improving the community. And I don't know who documented the community is the application. Is it ready yet or no? >> It will be.
>> All right. Hopefully that it will be approved. Thank you. >> Thank you, Miss Gold. >> City clerk, >> Susan Pender. >> Good evening. My name is Susan Pender. Um, I live on 1228 1st Avenue. Uh, I
grew up in Titusville and I've been gone for over 50 years. So, I'm retired and I'm back. Um, Heritmore Community Center. I I'mma follow up what Nen uh stated, but I'mma
give a little bit more meat to it. Um, the role and impact and purpose. The Heritmore Community Center should stand as an essential facility dedicated to addressing the needs and fostering the
growth of the local community. Its ability and accessibility makes it an access to the residents in the target areas supporting the various programs and services. The role of the center,
the prime role of the Heritmore Center should serve as a vital resource for the community, provide a welcoming, accessible location where residents can gather, participate, excuse me, in activities and benefit from range of
support of services. The center is committed to supporting the growth and development within the neighborhood. It serves acting as a cornerstone for positive change. The community resource
and services as a as a center community resource. The center should or the center was and should be designed to meet a broad spectrum of needs for individuals groups throughout the area.
Uh, its programs and services included but not limited to assisting with applications for V for various services, providing pantry assistance for those in need, supporting literacy through
reading programs, serving as a site for voter registration and elections, helping with the acquisition of birth certificates, offering uh closed banks for community members, organizing community meals, providing tax
assistance, hosting community events, and offering job search resources and uh PC classes. Um, North Bor Charities provided that I
maybe been a couple of years ago and it was managed by Leah Smith. she is now retired and after she um then bore services moved back over to Hawkins. So
all of that um contact community care basically kind of moved away with her and the community trusted Miss Smith as well as the individuals who were serving them. So the services
>> Thank you very much. I'm sorry. Okay. Thank you, >> city clerk. >> The last card is Stan Johnston. >> Stan Johnson. I'm going to say what I've heard I've said many times before is that uh we're very fortunate to have
Terry Franklin aboard. She's uh been handling the affairs of this area for many years and she's done a fantastic job. So, we're lucky to have her. I don't have any other comments to make. I did put a letter in that has to do with some other uh issues I had with the city
that I sent you an email today on dated September the 23rd. So, I may be speaking on some other issues later. But, uh thank you, Terry. >> Thank you, Mr. >> Thank you, Lynn. >> All right. Before I uh open up uh for discussion, I I just want to say how
incredibly vital this is. Um down in Coco, they use the city building to outsource the the management of social services to Family Promise in Bard, which is very very key and and keeping families together and bringing in the various different nonprofits from uh Bvard
Health Alliance to help me grow to Accelerate Boulevard to uh Career Source if I didn't already mention that one. Um, and what I was told in my conversations with their executive director is, you know, they did asset man mapping with data and all the
different service providers out there and did used all the data of what the needs of the community were. And what they found is the community didn't use it. And so they had to kind of go back to the community and kind of figure out
uh what use was needed. And so they they retoolled, they adapted, they changed some things. And uh I'm I'm very excited about that. Uh but my one recommendation uh to to our staff if possible is I
believe Parish also picked up on the datadriven model of asset mapping and is now running that for North Bard. And so if we could uh use that data to feed some hard numbers uh to the committee so that they can see the objective data versus you know they're kind of dealing
in the subjective like what what makes sense to them maybe individually or close family members. So um that would be my recommendation with that in terms of u what the committee could potentially discuss. Uh but in regards to the formation structure and uh
guidelines u I'm very very flexible. So, with that being said, uh, member Nelson, >> sorry, I'm so sorry. Member Mscoso, I don't know why I called on me. >> Turn my light off. >> I know. I was going to
>> Thank you. Um, I did meet with Norvar Charities this week and I know that they are itching to get back into um that building. So, it was exciting to hear the projects and the ideas that they have moving forward. Um, I would say I know that this is kind of almost like a
pilot program because it's only six months for one hour. So, I mean, our meetings sometimes go for six hours and it's hard to accomplish a lot once you get going. So, is there a possibility for this to extend after six months? >> Absolutely.
>> Only six months an hour. um per per week that okay we certainly can extend that okay >> as council desires that as the committee sees fit. >> Okay. And then I um on the application itself there's a section that says um
please like write the services that you have received and since this is going to be public record could that just be a yes or no like have you received services yes or no and that way some people might not feel comfortable writing down all the services that they have received. I think the idea is have
you received services just to make sure that you're actually part of the community in that sense. Um >> yeah, we will definitely if that's what it says we will um correct it. >> Yeah. Um, and then my last thing is I I know
that we are able to appoint a person, but I don't know if it would be beneficial or if the community would actually want to have um maybe one or two nonprofits in the area that are doing work um be part of that community so that when the community saying we
need this, this, and this, they can say actually we do have those services or you know, and that could help instead of spending an hour saying we want all of these things. there could be somebody in the community that's doing it that they're not aware of. And I'm not sure if that's even something the community
wants. Um, but just a thought um to see if it might be beneficial to have someone who's working in that realm to at least maybe attend those meetings just so that they can say, "Hey, we're already doing this or um that's a great idea. We haven't done it or we did this
and it failed in the past." Um, but that's really up to the community. Just an idea. If if I may, uh years ago we used to have a budget advisory committee and during that we would bring in different entities to come and to talk to the
committee about different services, financial services, etc. and different ways of providing municipal services. I would see a real correlation there of having the ad hoc committee bring in different um nonprofits and say what can you provide? >> Yeah.
>> You know, as examples. So perhaps like may maybe the first meeting would just be the nonprofits come in and this is what we provide and from there they >> invite different agencies that come in. How can you help us? >> Yeah, >> Vice Mayor Cole.
>> Uh I definitely agree with uh that young lady back there >> that the time of the meeting should not be at 3:00. I mean it needs to be after work so people can can we can ensure
people can make the meetings. Now everything that the speaker said I'm hoping that that's the purpose of our ad hoc committee that those kinds of things would be incorporated in what they do. Um, and we would also
have some form of advisor in there to help with the services that they would need and who they would be able to contact or have a list of the services that are already provided in the community that would be for them. My
other question is the application says boards and commission. Now, wouldn't this be an ad hoc committee and not a board p per se? So with every committee, yes, that is true. With every committee, we use the city standard application and then we
have a supplemental uh page for each. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Good. Thank you, >> member Nelson. >> Um I agree with Vice Mayor about the time because if we want to attract younger people, they're working
and so they're not going to come at 3:00, 3:30. So, but the other thing that caught my eye is we're talking about each one of us appointing somebody. Why not just do it where people apply
and we vote on them? >> Yeah. >> Thank you, Member Nelson. >> Member Stokel. >> Yeah, that's what I was getting from it. Um, I know Terry, you kind of clarified it, but when I read it, I I think that's kind of what we can decide. So, I feel
like once we get the pool of applicants, obviously we can try to tell people to apply and then I think once we have that pool, hopefully we can have that discussion and we all agree on the top five. If for some reason where we see the applicants and we're like, "Hey, can we all just say who our top person is,
we could decide to do it that way, too. But I'd like to see the pool of applicants." And I think it brings up an especially challenging point is per the guidelines that were written they said three people of the committee had to live within a certain geographical boundary. So then
who among us if we were each pointing one right and there's then two at large who would be like okay are you picking this person or am I picking this person and it kind of gets into a potential conflict with sunshine. So um I I like the idea of you know let's let's
advertise it. Let's get it out to the community. Let's encourage uh people that run nonprofits in our community to apply. Let's encourage the concerned citizens to apply. Let's get everybody um on board because we want to hear from everybody whether they're on the committee or not. Their voices still
matter and they're definitely more than welcome to come to these meetings. Um and again, they're just recommendations for us as we move forward. So, uh I very much appreciate it. Um, so can I have a motion to move forward with um
advertising the committee and the application, but we're going to change the time to TBD. Uh, maybe we should include on the application what times are you available? >> That might not be a bad idea. I think we
would want staff would want to know a time that you're recommending so we can include that when we send out the invitations. >> I would say my thought is 5:30. >> Let people get home,
>> change, come to the meeting. >> Does discriminate against second shift workers, but you know, you're never you're never in time. All right. So >> So the motion would be to approve the ad hoc committee. He's >> I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry. Go ahead. >> Go ahead.
>> We just noticed that after hours it conflicts with TEC and planning and zoning in many of these months. >> That's why we had the 3:00 initially. >> Can you make it on a Thursday? >> That conflicts with other meetings. >> Yeah.
>> Do the same people need to be there for the ad hoc committee though? >> Do the same people need to be there that are there for TEC are the same people that need to be at the ad hoc committee? the meetings can happen currently. It's just that if you're concerned about members who want to attend both one
either meeting, they they'll have to choose. >> They have to choose. >> They have to choose. That's kind of how I'm looking at it. Yeah. >> So, approve the ad hoc committee guidelines >> with the changes and authorize
application process with the changes >> and the time after hours. >> All right. And just so we're all clear on the changes, 5:30 time frame for a start, right? And then all applications will come through council and we'll vote on them collectively
>> and um >> get rid of the uh >> the districts and and things like that. >> Yeah. What what services you've used? >> Yeah. >> All right. Second. >> All right. All right. So, I have a motion and I have a second. Any further discussion from council? Seeing none,
all those in favor say I. >> I. Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Thank you very much. Appreciate your hard work putting this together. City manager. >> Yes, sir. We have uh no items under new business. Next is petitions and requests.
>> Anybody for petitions and requests, non-aggenda items? Seeing none, we're moving right along. I guess it's the mayor and council reports. Um um I was just going to say I just have one thing. Um, I feel like we've seen
each other a lot recently between budget hearings and executive sessions and everything else. Uh, but an idea kind of circulated to do um a turkey giveaway at Isaac Campbell Park was kind of my suggested location. I
have um people that donate to, you know, nonprofits and donate to our community. uh they can they normally do like a a a feed and my recommendation to them was why don't we just give out the frozen turkeys the the Saturday before uh
Thanksgiving and there's been several nonprofits that were excited about the idea and the idea kind of snowballed on me real quick. Uh, but what I would be looking for from you guys is approval to u do an event at Isaac Campbell Park on
Saturday um, November 22nd to get people to donate turkeys and and give them out to families that need it. I believe Unity in the community has already uh said that they want to be a part of this because they were looking for ways to get involved anyway. And so they would like to to cook and feed people and just
kind of make it a fun family event to help uh feed families in need. So that would be my ask. Remember Nelson, >> did you by any chance talk to Northard Charities? >> They they do it every year. >> I understand. I have not had a chance to
talk to them yet. Um I'm trying to get people that normally give out food around Thanksgiving to get them to to the right people and I'm not trying to duplicate the wheel. I'm trying to kind of actually corral and work together. So, I will be talking with North Charities.
>> Okay. >> Again, this idea kind of snowballed on me and after like three groups said they were in, I was like, "Oh, hold on. I better I better double check, right?" And so, um, that that's what I'm trying to do right now is just leave that option on the table. Um, I will be reaching out to them. Like I said,
>> I would suggest reaching out to them and also reach out to Parks and Recre because they're going to have they're the ones to approve Isaac Campbell. >> U with it being the city park, the city can use it at any time.
>> Um is that all you have? >> All right. Member Mosto. >> Yeah. Sorry, just to be clear, um I mean I think it's a great idea, but it's the nonprofits that are spearheading. we're just allowing the location. >> So, I'm just kind of corraling uh folks
together to work together. So, unity within the community is coming to the table. Um we have a business owner who is going to donate 15 frozen turkeys. Um again, my next call was going to be to uh Northard Charities, but I even had a
few other churches say, "Yeah, we're we're down to help donate food to to get it out to those folks that need it." And a lot of times when I see events happen around because I went to a lot of them last year, uh sometimes access was a tough tough point. So that's why I felt
like maybe if we did something um and said as a city, yes, you can do this and get these nonprofits together to work on it together, uh it could be pretty successful at Isaac Campbell. >> And um just so like our staff is clear, is the staff involved in this or
>> I mean we don't have to figure out logistics and things now. I'm just um curious if this is just us saying you have the building or that there'll be like additional um things happening within our city. >> Uh no, what it would just require is the city supporting it with the special
event permit, you know, and I think that's the biggest challenge for some nonprofits is getting those things done. Uh and by the way, it will come up eventually about the special event permit ordinance and how troublesome it is. Um, so with that being said, I
figured it could be us doing the event and corelling these nonprofits to get together. So, we're not actually spending any city dollars. We're just helping facilitate. >> Okay. Thank you. I was just wondering. >> And when I say we, I mean not staff time. >> Vice Mayor.
>> Yeah. One of the things I wanted to make sure we understood, I worked with the North Boulevard charities many years when Rotary as we gave out uh turkeys on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. The one thing that I think that we need to
make sure of is the fact that at first there were problems with people going to uh St. Teresa's and coming to North Charity and you looked at the back because we were bag boys. You looked at the back of their car and there was a lot of food back there. They eventually
started a database so you signed up as to where you got were going to go so you couldn't basically go three or four different places. My advice would be I think it's a great idea. Okay. and and I I know that I could we could get our Rotary all of our Rotaries clubs
involved in it, but I'd like to make sure that when you talk to NOVAR charities because they should have access into that database to make sure that people are signing up for this and I would make the motion that we
support this in giving away the turkeys at Thanksgiving at Isaac Campbell Park. Second. >> I have a motion by Vice Mayor Cole. I have a um second by member Nelson, city clerk. >> We have a card.
Stan Johnson. >> All right. Thank you, Mr. Johnson. And so again, I appreciate uh any council support on this. Again, we just help facilitate not trying to duplicate the wheel and uh make sure that we're we're all working together. So, I appreciate
it. Uh all those in favor say I. >> I. Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Thank you very much. That's all I have for my report. Vice Mayor Cole. >> Okay. I have uh two things. One is uh the last meeting I think it was that I
reported a scam call that I had received purportedly from my doctor's office. And since I reported that here at council, and I did report it on Facebook, I've gotten numerous calls from people telling me that the same thing has
happened to them. I just want to say it again that, and I'll just reiterate what I said two weeks ago. I was sitting at home on a Thursday evening and got a call purportedly from my private physician, his telephone
number, and the person on the other end was telling me I had a blood blood test a couple of weeks ago, which I did, and that my blood test came in and I had anxiety and depression and wanted to
know if I had uh Alzheimer's and dementia in my family and that they wanted to send me a saliva test that would be paid for by Medicare that would would sent be sent to my mailbox. And then they asked me for additional
personal information which I did not reveal. I recognized at the time that it was that way. Each person that called me to include and Joe Richardson called me today and told me the same thing had happened to him and the same thing had happened to Dwight Severs when I
mentioned it at at the hospital meeting. It has happened to numerous people. Now I immediately reported it to John Laauo for investigation. Now you know I I could have if I was sick or in bed or
something. I I could have succumbed to that. Now, I I'm not sure what they hack it for a saliva test that is being paid for by Medicare. So, it's Medicare fraud. And just I'm just putting this out here that just be careful. Be
careful on the calls you get even though it may seem official. I redialed the call and the call went straight to my doctor's office. So, what they had done was they had cloned my doctor's telephone number. So the the call did
not come from my doctor's office. Okay. Second thing I have is I was wondering when we do manpower studies, do we bring in like a industrial engineer to do our manpower studies? I guess I'm my concern is do we
have enough people in each area to work proficiently and how how do we perform our manpower studies within the city for our slots? >> Wow, that's an interesting question. Uh you know we do our >> I'm an interesting person.
>> Our total staffing studies we don't bring in a consultant to do any staffing. We do comparables um you know uh performance measurement and um but we don't bring in a consultant you know we basically put our heads together and brainstorm
and figure out how to get the mission done and what resources we need and what personnel we need to do that. >> Okay, you know >> there are certain >> and I'm sure you you did it when you were in the Coast Guard. We we did it a lot in the military >> like for fire you know obviously they
have staffing standards >> and and you know and same thing for public works on >> well I'm kind yeah I'm kind of talking about places like you know Brad's area and >> well they have performance metrics how many like for each inspector how many inspections per day and then times the
number of inspections that they have and that but we don't want to overstaff >> okay >> um you know if you have a surge you don't want to bring on people permanently you would then use, you know, part-time or other resources. You you want to keep the full-time
equivalents down if possible. >> All right. Okay. Thank you, >> Member Nelson. >> I'm going to be longwinded. Uh, first I want to say thank you, Mayor, for your interview with Channel
2. It was great on the space center and problems. Um, second thing is apparently, uh, St. Teresa's is having a problem selling Christmas trees
on their lot. You know how they always sell the Christmas trees on on the back of the church. Um, apparently it's not zoned for seasonal sales. So,
talking to Brad, um I think we need to change the ordinance and allow for seasonal sales at least by nonprofits. Uh that was looking at the ordinance. That was the easiest way to handle it, I
think. >> Right. Wrong. >> Yeah. The location criteria is very specific. So it sounds like um based on the conversation I had with you that maybe we want to expand the areas where seasonal sales can occur,
>> right? >> And with if we do get advisability from council, we can certainly look look into that >> because think about it, you have the Methodist church on Highway 50 selling pumpkins. Uh the one on dairy selling pumpkins.
>> Don't forget about the Girl Scout cookies. Yeah. >> Girl Scout cookies. Uh, what else? >> So, you're saying all of those have been just operating illegal? >> Basically, it's kind of like some of our
other laws that we're trying to go through. Uh, city attorney, um, we had some discussion about this. Can you weigh in on a way we could temporarily address this until we get an opportunity to fix it? Yes, I was actually already working on a on a memo um to to send out
um having discussed this uh earlier in the week um because I do think there are some problems with the way that seasonal uh special event def some of the definitions um because as you all know when when we as
government do things we have to be very contentneutral and yet that definition only applies to five very specific holidays. It says Valentine's Day, Fourth of July, Halloween, Thanksgiving, and Christmas. Doesn't include Memorial Day, Labor Day, New Year's Day, uh
Junth, um you know, Hanukkah, anything else. And and that's a problem in and of itself. So, my recommendation, and I'll put this in writing, will be that we suspend enforcement of that until such time that that staff can can bring an amendment to council to consider that
would cure some of those First Amendment concerns. >> Thank you. >> Okay, >> I think that works. Um, >> do I need a motion for that? >> I don't think so. He's already working on drafting it. >> Yeah, you're drafting it. Um >> I I would need some direction to go
forward with reviewing this because it certainly require an ordinance to make these amendments to the code, >> right? And and and that's Yeah, I mean that's the step right now to suspend enforcement of the current ordinance. How we want that new ordinance. I mean, if if you know, staff's going to need
some direction. Um because there's a a variety of ways we could do it, you know, um including whether we we want to regulate these seasonal events at all. Um all the way down to how specific we want to get. I mean, there's a wide
range there. >> So, my thought would be the first first thing we do is suspend the ordinance or the enforcement. Let me just ask. They're suspending the definition because right now all
seasonal sales uh regardless of type are relegated to this shoreline mixeduse zoning, community commercial zoning, regional comm commercial zoning, and the M1 zoning. Period. No other zoning is allowed. So if a church or any other organization or commercial property is
in a different zoning district, they are not permitted to have a seasonal sale of any type. Look, but my recommendation is that we don't enforce that seasonal sale concept at all because that's what's problematic is that we call it seasonal sales, but we limit it to just five
different holidays and we're not any broader than that. So >> that could open up to other single family homes, too, to have other events and other zoning residential zoning districts then potentially. I mean, suspending an ordinance isn't ideal because it it does kind of throw throw
everything out. Um, but but our, you know, I mean, we have to we have to pick and ch. I don't know if it's a real big problem of having special events in in single family areas or not, but uh >> well, I mean, they have like, you know, people do stuff at their homes. I mean, code enforcement doesn't have time to
police all 25,000 rooftops while they're doing a seasonal sale out front. So, I don't think the number is going to skyrocket overnight. >> So, I would think that based on what Jim says in that memo that it will give us some ideas on how
to make it work >> and I can do and I can cover Brad's concern about the the zoning in that memo. >> Okay. City attorney, can you share with council um one of the recommendations you mentioned to me about how you would draft such an ordinance?
>> Well, when it comes to special events be because of the fact that the city's decisions all have to be contentneutral. Special events create a very specific problem there because people are coming for special events or parades and things
and if the city's granting some and and denying some, it's very easy to slide into that contentbased decisions like, okay, we like this parade because it's Fourth of July, very patriotic d, but we don't like this parade because, you
know, maybe it's a pride parade and we don't want that, you know, and and those type of things whatever they are. Um, so a lot of of cities have gone to a a a system where a person will submit a
notice of a special event with some specific outlines. How many people do you expect to have? What resources are you going to have? Where is it going to be located and things? And it what it does is it puts the city on notice so that we know this group is expecting 500
people out in in this area. Maybe we need additional law enforcement resources out there. Maybe we need to have you know what whatever. Um and uh so it's a matter of do we want to approve the special events or do we want to just know about them uh so that we
can be ready to respond if necessary. Well, part of it is that when somebody asks for a special event, it gives us the ability to say, "How many officers do we need? Are we closing roads?" Um,
and these people are getting charged for it. >> So, it's not the citizens paying, it's the organizers pay. Right. And and those kind of things we we could accommodate, you know, if if we're not granting or denying because of what the event is,
but because of public safety concerns, right? You know, police, whether public works, whether roads need to be closed off, whether traffic control is required, uh whether portaotties are going to be required or and those type of things >> because th none of those things touch on
the content of the event. it contact, you know, touches on public safety issues. >> So, is this something that we would address at the next meeting? >> This would be a a very large comprehensive rewrite of special events
in general. So, that would take a while. >> You have we have advisability from you right now to come back to you with changes to the special event ordinance itself. >> Okay. >> This section we're talking about is about seasonal sales specifically. my question >> which is a little different.
>> So I I would ask if I could get direction from you if you want us to make changes to this that we we can go back and clean this up that part and include it in the special event ordinance so it's a comprehensive rewrite. That's what you >> um >> so the advisability would be for you to
go back and look at seasonal sales and make some changes. >> Yes. And they you already have the advisability for special events. >> Correct. >> Right. >> And so it doesn't matter to me if
they're together or separate. I mean, they're, you know, >> a little they're a little separate. So it makes sense for the advisabilities to be separate. So I have a a motion from member Nelson to give advisability to
um Mr. Parish to look at the seasonal sales. >> Second. motion. I have a second. Any further discussion? I'm gonna Hold on. Let me get to you. Anybody else from council? I see lights on. Member Stokel, did you want to say something? >> Um I I just I I will probably wait until
we discuss it more. I think I was just wanting clarification on I felt like we were talking about two separate things as well. Special events because now I'm just thinking so when all these churches do their harvest festivals and trunk retreats, are those considered special events and are they acting right now in non-compliance?
>> Depends. So special event is three generally three types. Sometimes it can happen on a private piece of property and we based on what's given to us. It doesn't require resources or any kind of need from us or or we may respond back
to we don't see a need for your for your request. We don't we don't need a see a need for to issue you a permit. Thank you for telling us. Um but there may be some other events that they are providing submitting to us might be on on that property that same property but now it's much bigger. We can see there's
going to be an impact because a huge amount of people going to be coming to this property. We can see that there's a potential we need to go in there maybe speak with them about how we're going to work on uh the traffic circulation or they need to provide some additional parking temporary whatever that might be. Then we would need to issue them a
special event permit. And generally right now a special event permit ordinance doesn't um specify type of event. I mean it's pretty it's pretty good on that. Um but associated with that you have mobile
vendors that come in, right? So some and they have to get a BTR separate BTR just for that. So for example you got a parade or you got some kind of um a circus or whatever that might be. Then you they bring in food trucks or they bring in other vendors that want to sell
merchandise. They the city requires a BTR for that. If they're going to set up a a place that is going to be uh for extended period of time, much longer than what a special event permit would allow because generally about 3 4 days maximum >> for that event.
>> If they want to do something 45 days like during Christmas, then there's a separate process here. there's this they have to get this is the the section of the code we're talking about right now. >> Okay. >> And so right now what we're concerned about is the definition of what that is
because it only clarifies specific holidays >> as as seasonal. Um and and then it specifies which particular zoning districts those are only permitted on. >> And then I know some churches like even for their Sunday morning I think they pay for an officer to help direct
traffic >> if necessary. Yes. Sometimes they may not ask for it. we look at him and say you need something. We can't we not sure this is going we can permit this because the nuisance issue. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And I'm just thinking just of the churches I know I feel like some of them they are grand events that they might
need some additional paperwork and then some of them are relatively small that I would say I don't feel like you guys need to really do anything like that's like you guys are kind of having a party among your members. and >> we we have a a planning meeting when it comes to special event permits. We we look at the application case by case
basis and nine times out of 10 we actually ask we'd like to have a meeting with you so we know specifically what you're trying to do >> because a lot of times especially people u churches or other um property owners or applicants that are um doing this for the first time in the city don't know
>> you know the specifics what they need from us. And so through that planning meeting with us, then they find out you're going to need a fire inspection for the the food trucks you're bringing out. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. >> And correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Parish,
but um every event that's happening at a business that's operating outside of their normal business would require a special event permit. There was a question about um a few months ago about car shows and having to
you're using up the entire parking lot for your business for this special event and doing it monthly. And so there was a question that came to staff, how can we permit these? because I I I believe there was a case where one was um denied and I think
the reason is because the parking lot for example was approved of that site plan to accommodate the business. Well, if they're going to keep the business open, but they're not going to use the parking lot. What are they doing for the patrons? So, that potentially requires some kind of special event permit to accommodate that potential temporary
impact. Then there's some parts of the code that say depending on which zoning district you're in, you're only allowed to limit it to maybe four times a year. That's something we are considering. That's something to expand and we're bringing back to you. In the downtown, you can do that 12 times a year. Each time it's an
event, it can be one day, can be up to four days, but then it has to be a break after that before we can count the next event. That's the way the code currently is written. >> So, it's case by case basis really depending on location and scale. >> Right. Sorry, Mr.
But pretty sure the code says that if you're doing something outside of your normal course of business, you have to do a special event permit >> if the impact is not as going back to my first statement about sometimes we look at this and say we just don't believe you we need to issue a permit to you
because the scale of what of the event that you're submitting to us or that you're proposing is not going to impact the approved function of the site plan. >> Okay. Okay. Then we'll we'll reply back and tell you we do not believe we need to issue a permit for you. >> So, did we issue a special event permit
last year for a downtown realer who may name remain nameless to do a trunk or treat? >> I have to look back to see what we did, but I know that there was an event that was proposed um in Julia Street parking lot.
>> So, you know, it's he runs >> which is public property which would require a permit. >> Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying that on public property, but you know, on private property, if I was having an event inside my office, a trunk or tree, the public's welcome, my understanding of the code is that would require a special event permit.
>> Private property um if they are doing it on private property and not just uh creating a nuisance, we may make the judgment call that that is not required a permit in that case. >> That's a judgment call, not what the code says. Correct. Well, the code is is intended to issue require a permit
because of the scale and the potential impact on the sur on that robing the surrounding areas. >> I understand. But my concern is with judgment calls to um Mr. Stokes's point because then we're deciding or we're could be the appearance that we're
deciding what events are allowed to take place and what events are not allowed to take place. the the flip side of that is that you probably have to require a permit for every birthday party that might happen in the location. >> So I think the code that I believe was written with the intent to allow staff
the events coordinator which is a specific title in the code to make that judgment based on that scale and the information that's provided to us and that's a collective decision based on the police department, fire department, community development, public works and the engineer. We have an events
coordinator. >> The code requires a special events coordinator. Now last year in order to clean up the process because it was a little cumbersome and kind of um wasn't really coord uh centralized. We uh promoted an internal staff member uh to
handle the coordination of all events. So anytime we get an application, it's filtered through this one particular person and she provides the information to all the reviewers and coordinates the meetings, the planning meetings with the applicant and the reviewers. >> So if I was throwing an event, how many
different reviewers would look at my application? So depending on the application generally full out uh pretty uh parade for example will include public works the city's engineer uh planning
um the police department and the fire department. >> Okay. Thank you very much. That's all my questions. All right. Um so can you remind me of the motion member Nelson? I'm sorry.
advisability for Brad to look at um seasonal sales and come back with some changes to broaden well basically to keep people legal. >> Yes. Thank you, member Nelson. And I
know Vice Mayor will second. Is >> that a good way to put it? >> Anybody that helps that helps us based on the discussion, >> Mr. Johnson? My name is My name is Stan Johnson and I'm opposed to a number of things you're doing and I oppose what you're doing
today which includes many things in which you've insulted me. You've disrespected me. You've violated the Constitution. You've continued to >> Mr. Johnson, I'm going to caution you. You're not on topic to the motion on the table. The topic is is is that I'm opposed to what you're doing in this
particular matter and I'm going to continue to oppose many of your matters because of your corruption and dysfunction of the government. >> All right. Thank you, Mr. Johnson. You can no I'm I'm caution is that I sent you I sent you emails today about this.
>> Take your seat. >> I sent you emails and you have and you haven't responded September the 23rd, >> Mr. Johnson. >> Two emails I just sent to you. I don't want you to respond to him. >> Mr. Johnson, please. >> That's not right. That's not right. What you're doing, >> Mr. Johnson. >> And you should be You should be
protecting me. People should be protecting me because I'm asking you to leave the council chambers. >> Moving me when I'm trying to speak. >> Please leave the council chambers. >> Please. >> I don't enjoy what you're doing. I'm I'm going to sit down under duress. >> Do you want me to ask the officer to ask you to escort you out?
>> Officer, please escort him out. I asked you to leave the council chambers after I asked you to sit down repeatedly, please. >> All right, I have a motion on the table. Any further council discussion? >> All those in favor say I.
>> Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Thank you very much. Member Nelson, do you have other things? >> Yeah, sorry. >> No, I just It was a lot, but there was a lot of good discussion we had. So, >> well, this is interesting. So, I need consent for staff time. Specifically, I
think Sandy Reer. Um, I got a proposal from Miss Thompson about nanobubbles. >> Nanobubbles. The presentation we had >> the presentation she wants to pay
to for a trial in u the marina. She is paying for it. Not us. Uh >> Sandy >> no Laurly Laur's paying for it. Sandy
will be having a heart attack. Um, I tried to talk her out of it, but she is adamant that she wants to pay for this trial. Um, so our cost would be some
staff time, i.e. Sandy, uh, getting their permit to do it and, um, meeting about it. Anything else? >> That's basically it. Yes, she would
absorb the $150,000 cost for a a limited >> um >> pilot program in a in a confined basin in the by the marine actually over toward Westland Marine not actually in our slips in Westland Marine and um
again our our staff time and pulling the permits is the extent of our city's uh responsibility. U can I just have anformational only question because I know uh when I had conversations with uh Laura Lee about this she was very very
big on um you know around Scobby Park. So I was just wondering again it's her money. I don't care where she puts it but I was just wondering why she uh wanted the marina versus like Scobby Park in that little inlet there. >> She said she and Chris went through it
and this was a location they thought was appropriate. Um, there is a lot of muck in Marina. Um, I'm very well acquainted with the marina. Um, and yeah, there's muck there.
>> Yeah. Again, wasn't debating and arguing where it should be. Just wanted to wonder why, you know, the change, but I appreciate that information. So, um, I was sort of hoping she'd wait until they did the experiment on Miami River,
but she doesn't want to wait. So, that's my request. >> Yeah. I I second. Can I ask a question? Would it be appropriate if we are invited to go see for us to go out there? Um, because this project could be
something we eventually vote on. >> Oh, absolutely. I think that's the whole purpose is to demonstrate that. >> Yeah. I just wanted to make sure that Jill's out there if I show up. >> Absolutely. >> Okay. I think we all show up. >> I don't have the exact parameters of the experiment, the duration and all that,
but this just starting to evolve this week. A matter of fact, she's asking me to call her tomorrow if council discusses this. >> It's evolved this week. Today's Tuesday. >> I know. >> Well, I love it. And that's the the kind of tenacity that you have in the private
sector that just wants to get things done. And I applaud her for uh not only her volunteerism and dedication to our community, but also putting her money where her mouth is. And uh uh that is um definitely commendable. So I can't say enough nice things, but I I do believe
uh Member Nelson made the motion. Uh Vice Mayor Cole seconded. Member Stokel. >> Member Muscoso seconded. Yes. And I do have >> just to clarify this >> does want to do this and they there's no like unintended consequences or anything or things that we should be aware of
before saying yes because it seems too good to be true. So I just want to make sure >> I mean I think staff is very interested to see if the proof of concept works. >> Okay. Okay. No >> it's techn I mean Laura Lee is convinced that it's >> really emerging technology and
>> yeah if there's no potential harm and I'm >> Yeah. I mean our our our exposure is very limited as far as a city. >> Okay. >> And Lauri is taking the brunt of the fiscal responsibility. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah. Definitely in favor. >> In terms of conversations that I know
she's told me she's had with a lot of the environmentalists around the county. Uh Dwayne Defreeze seems like, you know, he's on in favor of trying it. You know, he's according to the exact quote, out of the 100 plus snake oil salesman that have come knocking on his door with the
bullet point solution to, you know, silver bullet to fix the lagoon, he's like, "This one's the most promising." So, that is what she told me. He said to her. So, I I think we got to kind of take that for what it is as we move forward. So, uh with that, anybody would
like to speak on this topic? All right. I have a motion. I have a second. All those in favor say I. I. >> Any opposed? Motion carries. Thank you very much. >> No, one more thing. >> No more. >> Well, we said that we were going to
support the mayor's ball. >> So, my thought is it would be good if we had some guidelines on what that meant. Um, we supported the NAACP before by buying tickets for everybody
to go. Um, but beyond that, do we need some rules for what we're going to do, what we're not going to do? Because when we get to the 501c3, I think we're going to have some rules.
So, I think that's a gem question. I mean, do you >> I'm assuming the foundations have some rules about guidelines. >> I mean, the rules would be the the basic rules that that you would already, you know, your decision should be
non-discriminatory and should be, you know, for for charitable it because it be set up as a as a charitable organization, a nonprofit organization. So, so the cause would have to but but beyond that, >> as long as you have a majority of
council that's that's identifying a particular nonprofit or whatever, but then as far as what resources are being put into it, again, that would that would fall within your discretion as as the council or the board if we get a 501. I
>> was sort of interested in what the other cities did. We can certainly look into that and and kind of get some best practices. >> I would appreciate it. >> Yeah. >> Remembering that once you know and and this is the way it is generally if you
vote as as the elected body to run this city, you vote that that there's a valid public purpose for an expenditure of funds. That is the kind of thing that the court is rarely if ever going to overturn. They're not going to supplant
their judgment for years. They're going to figure you five have been elected by the citizens of Titusville to be the stewards for the city. And so if if a majority of you decide this is going to be a good use of funds um for something,
then that's pretty much all that it takes. So, but and then beyond that, it falls to to you and and and things like the ethics code. you know, you can't yeah, you know, remodel your own house or things like that. But
>> Dant, >> so what do you guys think about support being uh city provides tickets for us to go? >> I mean, we get it for the NAACP. >> I mean, I can ask the air command to
compass tickets. I mean, I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility. I mean, >> Mayor, >> yeah. >> Um, I was just going to say I think for the purposes of this particular event, I think once we get the 501c3, I think
we'll have different rules because that will be we'll have money in that pot. But for these purposes, I think um I would say limiting it to just like we did with the NAACP NAACP if we wanted to purchase like a table for us. Um and then I know that we
had said um there was some minimal cost with paper and envelopes. Um but beyond that, like I think if there's staff time over two hours, that would come before us. I don't anticipate that happening. Um but I wouldn't really want to do anything beyond that. I think it's more of just a we're supporting it, we're
behind the idea. Um, but not really diving into much of the financial portions of it beyond that was my thought. >> So, did you guys want to sponsor? >> Did you guys want to do a table or sponsorship or however you wanted to do
it? It doesn't matter. >> I think for the NAACP, the city paid for tickets. >> We got a table for I think Yeah. for us. Um, there. >> Yeah. So, >> if you guys want to go, I'm fine with that.
>> I think I get in for free, but >> Okay. >> It's good. >> Yep. >> But yeah, um whatever you guys want to do, just let me know and or let the city manager know and um we can get that taken care of. >> So, >> I mean, I guess we could say rather than a table if because I'm already seeing a
headshake, maybe just if you want to go, the city will fund us as council members if we want to go and then if not versus maybe a table. >> Yeah. Yeah, >> that' probably be the more cost effective option. >> I think it would be too because I'm at the parish table, so I don't need
>> Okay. >> ticket. So that means I cut it down. >> Maybe. Okay. So maybe I'll just make a motion that if a council member wishes to go that the city will like pay for that ticket and that's the extent of our cost. >> Second. >> I have a motion and I have a second. Any
further discussion from council? Anybody? I want to know why I, as a taxpayer, I'm going to pay for you to go to a $150 a ticket ball that I don't particularly want to go to. Don't move in the social
set that goes to it. I don't want my taxpaying dollars to go to that. I think it's ridiculous. You want to go to this ball that the mayor is putting on, pay for your ticket yourself. Is it going to be just you or you plus one?
>> It would just be that my motion was just for us. Kind of similar like we did for the NAACP. >> And yet this man doesn't need a ticket. He's he's part of another board that is going to support this event. I I think it's enough for the city the city's mayor to be making videos and posting on
Facebook and social media saying, "Oh, this is the mayor's ball. The mayor's ball." Let the mayor buy you a ticket, not me, the taxpayer. >> Yeah, I think that could open up a whole bunch of can of worms of then we're not supporting any event in the city. So, I
prefer to support my community one step at a time, but I appreciate all the feedback. I have a motion. I have a second. All those in favor say I. >> I. um that any council member wishing to go the city would uh purchase a ticket for him. >> Oh, yep.
>> All right. All so all those in favor say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? >> Yes. >> All right. Motion carries four to one. City clear. Could you reflect the correct? Thank you. I just want to make sure you were good before we moved on. Anything else? Member Nelson,
>> I'm done. >> All right. So, member Nelson went member uh or sorry, Vice Mayor Cole went. Member Moscoso, would you like to go? >> All right. Membersho is yielding her time. Members,
>> I no I'll be really quick and I Well, thankfully for you, I didn't even bring my notebook. So, I did have a floor league of cities uh at several meetings this past uh week and just a couple highlights I wanted to say. one, it was interesting to see health insurance costs going up across the state. So, as
we were hit bad, it was I don't want to say it was nice to hear, but apparently that's been the trend. Um, it was also interesting to hear some of the stuff with the prescriptions. Um, part of the cost going up were saying that there's a lot of new patents out for some prescriptions and I was like, "Oh,
that's interesting to see." Yeah. Um, and then there's going to be a new AI hub on the Florida League of Cities website. Um, so I'm excited to see more of that. I already have some ideas for some things that they can do. So I'll keep you guys um I'll give you guys
updates as I see more um about that. The other thing, this is probably more for uh staff, the grants department within the Florida League of Cities, now they have a specialized designated person on contract to provide help. So if you want them to review your application, if you
want some ideas for different types of grants, they said please utilize them. It is a wealth of knowledge. Um, just the things that they were going over, I was like, "Oh, our staff would love this." Um, if you have questions, they have somebody dedicated specifically to help us throughout the process. Um, and
then lastly, the policy committee meetings are starting on Friday. So, I think our mayor got appointed to one of those. So, there's five different policy committee meetings. It's important to realize me being on the board at for the Florida League of Cities, we do not set the legislative priorities. Our policy
committees do that. So we have five different ones. They meet three times throughout the fall um to kind of discuss what are we facing as local municipalities, what are the top issues we want to advocate for at the state level. So um those are starting on Friday. So that will be really exciting
to see kind of what comes of that. And so with that, I think that's all I have. >> Thank you. Uh member Stokl, city manager. Sir, I have two action items on the city manager report. The first is uh it's customary for city council to cancel the
second scheduled meeting on the fourth Tuesday in December and request council act as to whether or not they want to cancel those two meetings. >> Member Nelson. >> Yes. >> Is that a motion?
>> I have a motion by member Nelson. I have a second by member Stokel. Any further discussion? Anybody want to weigh in? All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Thank you. >> Attached in the city manager's uh agenda
item is the uh FY26 legislative priorities that we discussed at the last meeting. Uh we added the Senate Bill 180 concerns and the rest are just, you know, overarching macro type issues that every year um come before the
legislature. and just looking for approval so I can transmit that to the Space Coast League of Cities and they consolidated into an entire platform for the uh Space Coast. >> Uh thank you very much city manager. My um small take on this is while the
widening of State 405 is very very important to us as a city um in terms of a legislative priority um I don't think it's going to get a whole lot of traction. What I would suggest is the legislative priority of um supporting and funding the infrastructure
transportation trust fund uh because that is where these pockets of money come from. Uh I believe last year they actually took some money out of it to balance their budget and given the fact that Bvard County uh alone has a $2.1
billion shortfall in terms of roads uh versus funding over the next 20 years that is kind of critical. So um while again very very big on my personal priority list is this widening. I think our um specific asks should be more
policy related because I believe the way the state legislature looks at it is that's just one road here. But again tying it into the bigger policy of how they balance the budget and uh where that funding is coming from. >> I I can certainly add that in >> that was going to be my recommendation. Can we just add it? Because what will
happen is with the Space Coast, we'll have it there for us to go and talk about when we go up there, but the Space Coast won't talk specifically about this, but we can definitely bring up the making sure to fund the trust. That would be my recommendation.
>> Thank you, Member Stokel. Member Mscoso. Um, yeah. One of the things I I think could possibly um we could also include is um I have I have it titled as financial stability and tax policy. Um because we know that, you know, there's
a good chance property taxes are going to be eliminated. And so I I'm just going to read kind of what I what I wrote and just see if this is something that tracks with you guys. But um it says the city supports measures to maintain strong uh fiscal health and protect delivery of essential services
while minimizing the local taxpayer burden. The city encourages expansion of targeted revenue tools such as impact fees so development pays its own ways and existing taxpayers are not overburdened. Any statewide tax reform should ensure cities have stable means
to meet community needs needs. Sorry. So, it's not a it's not like a a big punch, but it's just saying, "Hey, remember >> that verbiage?" >> Yeah. And so, just kind of a reminder is uh we still have to um function as a city and um
>> Yeah, that's actually perfect because I had on my list, can we say something about property taxes? Yeah. >> And there that's perfect. >> I'm pretty sure that's going to be on everybody's list. >> Yeah. And I I don't want it to be not be on our list, so >> Oh, we can be special in that way. >> Yeah.
member Nelson. >> Thank you. Thank you guys. That was on my list, too. >> Um, but the other thing on restoration of the lagoon is saying we urge the legislature to legislature to continue
funding dredging efforts. Since we're doing a demo project, which isn't dredging, maybe we should just say continue funding efforts to remove muck. >> Yeah.
>> Remove the dredging part in the second paragraph, >> right? >> In the second paragraph where it says, "We urge the legislature to continue funding dredging efforts. Just take out the d the dredging. >> Yeah, I I think we're all good with
that. >> All right, city manager. >> The last item is just me. >> So, did you >> do we need a motion and vote on this? >> I mean, I don't know. >> Um I I can add those additions and just >> if you're good without a vote, I'm fine. We'll meet again and I I will send it
out to all council once I get the additions and if you have individually you can respond back to me. >> Thank you. Same manager. >> Uh last is a copy of the FA letter uh regarding the Starship heavy um EIS
concerns that we sent out. And as you know they've ex they've extended the comment period to the 29th I believe. based on your request, we just drafted this letter uh to FAA um and we tried to address some of the
concerns that were brought up related to public access recreation and we added an additional statement in there about environmental disruption. >> Thank you, Mr. Parish. >> Mr. Stokes,
>> I only have about 12 items. Um I'm sorry. I've got nothing. >> Well, we appreciate all that you do and uh that is not me being physicious. You know, you've been a a big help. So, uh with that being said, I have a motion to adjourn.
>> Motion to adjourn. >> We're adjourned.