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Part 1 (Video ID: Igt8ze0m83Q):
- 00:02:09: Meeting Commences: Invocation, Pledge, and Employee Recognition
- 00:05:14: City Clerk's Office: Hub of Government Services
- 00:10:53: Alternative Water Supply: Brackish Water and Reclaimed Water
- 00:17:28: TEC Recommendations: Stormwater, Reclaimed Water and Aquifer
- 00:18:37: Public Discussion: Brackish Water and Other Alternatives
- 00:23:53: Sustainability Action Plan Update Presentation: Goals and Achievements
- 00:33:02: Public Discussion: Gas Prices, EVs, and Cost Effectiveness
- 00:37:41: Public Comment: Johnson Claims City Budget Fraud
- 00:41:27: Public Comment: Shifalo Recognizes Citizen Empowerment Month


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and presentations meeting is April 28th at 5:30 2026. For the invocation, we'll hold a moment of silence. Please bow your heads. Thank you very much. Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you very much. City Manager? Yes, sir. The first item on special

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recognitions and presentations is the employee of the month for April 2026. And this month, the awardee is uh Tabitha Armstrong, and uh Brad Paris will present the award. So, this month, I'm happy to announce

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that Tabitha Armstrong is our employee of the month. Uh I was happy that she was selected. She did a a great job helping us out with historic preservation for the city. Um everyone is familiar with the Jordanville and Beyond project. Uh previous historic preservation

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planning projects revealed a gap in our documented African-American history, and Jordanville and Beyond was initiated to help residents help reveal fill in that gap. Tabitha volunteered to lead that project. She organized and promoted successful community event where residents shared their experiences

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and memorabilia. She led a presentation at the American Planning Association conference in Daytona this year, and she or in 2025, and she authored grants to help implement the education phase of this project. She continues to find ways integrate the project into events and programs when opportunities

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arise. In fact, she did submit a nomination to the Florida Historic Trust, and I believe we have a very good chance of winning an an award for that project there in July. Tabitha is a dedicated hardworking employee. She's extremely organized and focused on continuously learning and

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promoting the city in the best light possible. And I'm happy that when my recommendation was approved for her to be the employee of the month. >> [applause] >> Yes, sir. The next item is uh the department spotlight, the city clerk department. We have a short video, and

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this is just another one of the department spotlights that we do periodically showcasing our outstanding employees. The City Clerk's office is at the hub of city government and serves as the information source for citizens. [music] The office provides three major

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functions including facilitates public [music] participation in governmental processes, protects and manages the public record, administers [music] the legislative process. To begin, almost every responsibility of the office is [music] tied to laws and

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policies set by Florida statutes, Florida administrative code, [music] the city's code of ordinances, and city administrative policies. Laws that govern much of what the office does also [music] govern the estimated 411 cities/towns

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and 67 counties in the state. With the changing nature [music] of legislation and policy, staff must be flexible, adaptable, and stay abreast of new legislation and information. [music] Staff also seek and maintain professional and continuing education in order to skillfully and carefully

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[music] perform our role and provide excellent and efficient care to the citizens. Further, the office must remain neutral [music] in all instances, as well as the office is responsible for many ministerial duties. Now, about [music] the office's three

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major functions. First, facilitate [music] public participation. Here, the office facilitates public and citizen participation at City Council and Community Redevelopment Agency meetings. Provides advanced public notice [music]

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and legal advertising on upcoming public hearings. Oversee appointments [music] of citizens that deserve being appointed by City Council to serve on various public advisory [music] boards and committees. Administration of City Council elections. Coordinates [music] and

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invites leaders of all religious assemblies to give the invocation and solemnize City Council meetings. >> [music] >> Provides liaison support to the Student Advisory Council and Titusville Community Service Award Select [music] Committee. Second, protect and manage

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the public record. The City Clerk, along with staff, [music] oversees implementing and coordinating the city's records management program in [music] compliance with state laws and policy, and serving as a key contact [music] between individual departments, with the

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exception of the Police Department, [music] who oversees records related to the field of law enforcement. Here, the [music] City Clerk's office protects, manages, and provides security for records entrusted to the office and [music] incorporated into the city's electronic records database or laser

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fiche. Oversees compliance with state rules on records retention schedules, [music] electronic imaging requirements, exempt information, and [music] inventory keeping. Responds to public records requests, which often [music] requires collaboration with city departments.

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Here, staff [music] must ensure the redaction of any portion of exempt or confidential information not available for public inspection >> [music] >> per the Florida Legislature. Examples, staff may need to first redact any references to an individual's personal

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medical conditions that may be contained in a record, certain personal identifying information, security plans, [music] etc. In fact, Florida statutes provides more than 1,000 exemptions for information that may [music] be exempt from public inspection.

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Next, the office places [music] a high priority on digital public records, equipping departments to scan, [music] import, and retain records in digital form rather than paper. The office also [music] collaborates with city departments to provide training on Florida statutes and public

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records laws. In addition, [music] in the mindset of continuous process improvement, the office is implementing new laser fiche tools to assist [music] departments to streamline processes related to forms and contracts from creation, routing, approval, signature,

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tracking, [music] and renewal, etc. No paper will be necessary. Third, administer the legislative process. >> [music] >> Here, the office provides notice of City Council meetings. >> [music] >> Prepares the City Council agenda at the discretion of the City Manager.

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Attends all [music] City Council and Community Redevelopment Agency meetings and prepares [music] the minutes. In addition, the office oversees the online posting and [music] codification of new ordinances approved by City Council that amend [music] the the code

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of ordinances and code volumes. The codes are available [music] through the city website as hosted by CivicPlus, formerly known as MuniCode. Additionally, [music] the office provides mail courier services to the entire municipal organization. >> [music]

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>> Plans the annual student awards ceremony hosted by city council that recognizes outstanding [music] students grades K through 12. Plans the annual boards and commissions [music] recognition ceremony hosted by city council. To this, we hope you have enjoyed this overview of the Titusville

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City Clerk's Office. Well, on behalf of this board, I want to personally thank our city clerk, Wanda Wells, for everything that her and her team do. So, thank you very much. >> [applause] >> City Manager? Mr. The next item is the 4C, the

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alternative water supply. This is a presentation by our public works director regarding actions as far as alternative water. Hello. All right. >> [laughter] >> So, if you remember, I think two meetings ago, we brought a brackish

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water study to you, and council recommended that we bring it back to the TEC and then come back to you with their recommendations and our recommendations. So, we have a quick presentation to go over alternative water supply and what what it actually is.

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This is always the fun part. It's on. Mhm. Yes, Ted. So, oh, okay, thank you. We can start. So, what are alternative water supplies? Alternative water supplies are non-traditional water sources. Right

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now, we use fresh water for our drinking water. And in the future, we will need to look at different alternative water supplies cuz even if you were to not allow a single another person to move into the city, we still need to look at alternative water supplies because due to drought, due to

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rising sea levels, our fresh water supply will turn salt water, and we need to look at other options to supply our current water demand. So, there are a few There are a few options. Brackish, which brackish groundwater or seawater.

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Where Seawater is, you know, a little bit far away, so we probably won't be able to do that one. There's reclaimed water. There's surface water, stormwater, and aquifer storage and recovery. And why we need alternative water supply, went over that a little bit is we need a long-term availability, a

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reliable water supply for future generations and growth. We need to meet regulatory compliance. St. John's is is There is no written law, but St. John's is for their with their water supply plan is requiring us to look at options for alternative water supplies. We need

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drought resilience. Right now, we're in a drought. I'm sure everyone knows that. So, so some of these some of these options will our drought resistant. And for sustainable growth. It diversifies our water sources, so we're not relying on one water source.

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If there's an issue with one, we have multiple sources. So, one of the options is brackish groundwater. So, brackish groundwater, it the wells are deeper than our current wells, so it goes in it goes very far down, and it's the most common desal We're going to say

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desal cuz that word is very hard to say method >> [laughter] >> in Florida. And it removes a lot of contaminants, including PFAS, because you have to use reverse osmosis. So, it is drought proof. It's a reliable water source, and it you get superior water quality from

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it because it it treats issues like PFAS and reduces our reliance on fresh water sources. Some of the challenges are it's it's a different water source. It requires different treatment, and there is there is a brine that is made from it. There's something that needs to be disposed of. So, there's

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methods There are different methods for that. The feasibility study that we're recommending will look at those and see what is the best way for us to dispose of that. You do need knowledgeable operators, which, you know, we have. They'll have to learn a new method. So, our recommendation is to move forward with

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this this feasibility study. We can't go straight to design because we need to look and see if it's feasible. I don't want to We don't want to spend a whole bunch of city money if it's not feasible. So, you need to look at initially, is it feasible? What's the cost? What do we need to do? And we would like to

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combine it with our current water system with current our current wells. So, we're not just getting rid of those wells. We're looking at a hybrid system, and that will take a lot of planning to look into. Another option is reclaimed water and potable reuse. So, we all know what reclaimed water is.

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Where we use reclaimed water throughout the city. We're actually We're looking at expansion of our reclaimed system, which starts with a increase in storage capacity, and we also have a task order for aquifer storage and recovery recovery well feasibility study

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currently underway to expand our reclaimed system and to store excess during storms. What reclaimed water or potable reuse is is taking that reclaimed water and treating it using advanced treatment to turn it into potable drinking water.

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It's It's currently allowed by the state. It's actually probably the cheapest and most environmentally friendly, but I would not recommend moving forward with it at this time because public perception, they don't want it. And [snorts] I just don't It's hard to recommend >> [laughter]

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>> It's hard to recommend something that you know is not going to pass. So, that's our recommendation. >> [laughter] >> So, there's also potable water water aquifer storage and recovery, ASR. So, that involves during times of excess

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water where we can inject potable water into the groundwater and store it for later use in times of drought. It does not create a new water supply. The potable water doesn't. Um but [snorts] it can store it for later.

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So, it is I think we should also look into this in combination with our brackish water with our current wells to see if this is something that we can that we can utilize also to store water so we have another source during droughts. And then you have surface water and

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stormwater capture. So, that's um utilizing [snorts] You can either Some Some municipalities use fresh water sources like lakes. Those Those come with a lot of water quality challenges. Um

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and then there's the idea of diverting stormwater into into your potable water wells. You can't right now, it's not prohibited, but no one has has um permitted directly putting stormwater

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into wells. But what you can do is rehydrate your current well field. So, you could try to find a way to divert stormwater to a well field to rehydrate that well field, our current wells, and create more fresh water. Um

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It It turns a burden into an asset. We all know we have a stormwater issue, so it's something that we could definitely look into. Um So, what TEC recommended was to proceed with the brackish water feasibility study, but also consider consider evaluating well field recharge from both

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stormwater and reclaimed water sources. And looking at aquifer storage and recovery as a potential component of the overall long-term water supply strategy for the city. All these multiple resources to try to work into one and make our system more reliable and more resilient.

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And we agree. We think that's a great idea. So, our recommendation is at the 6:30 meeting, we have the task order for the brackish water feasibility study. We recommend moving for approving that, and then we can bring back a change order to that

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task order to evaluate the recommendations by TEC. I would like We could wait, but it would be nice to move start that project, and then we can bring back the change order with the cost, and you guys can look at approving that at a later date. Thank you very much, Ms. Sandy. Any questions?

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Member Stokols. Yes. Um do you know how long have other communities been using brackish water before, and if so, for how many years? I don't know how many years. I know there are other communities that use it. Um but I don't I don't have how I don't have that information on Yeah.

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Who used it for. I think I know it's I know it's the most common the most common method for alternative water supply Okay. in Florida. Okay. And I appreciate your comments on the reclaimed water. I would agree. Um yeah, and I I think my thing would be just to how can we ensure that the water

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is up to good quality water standards, especially as developments get approved and we're saying, "Oh, we have plenty of water." Now we're telling people that they have to drink a different source potentially, and they're Yeah, so that's what the this feasibility study will kind of look at kind of merging it with our current

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water supply, doing like almost a pre-treatment to get it into our current water supply. And RO, if you look you research RO, it's it's it's good quality water. It's It's a good system to go to. Do you know if other communities are using reclaimed water?

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Outside the state, maybe, or Outside the state, I think so. California. Okay, I was curious about that. I think what Lily Lily looked it up for me, and it was they call it forever water. So, we could try to, you know, change how >> [laughter] >> they label it. Okay. All right, thank you. >> [laughter]

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>> Remember Moscoso? Thank [snorts] you. Um so, I think during my briefing, I one of the questions I asked is um are we asking to increase our CUP? And my understanding was in order to request that, we have to prove that we are looking for for

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alternative studies. And so, that was really helpful for me to see the importance of why we're going through this process. Because ultimately, so, let's say that we do this study, would we request immediately to increase our CUP and then work on the rest of the

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process of let's say we choose the brackish water, how does that how does that work? So, we're going to have some meetings with St. Johns coming up to kind of see um to see what their appetite is for that. Um we we have we're looking into looking at a

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consultant to help us with the CUP increase. Um so, I think we're going to kind of do them all at the same time. Um I I think us having this task order say we are looking at it is a huge step towards them

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even to start talking to us about that. Okay. And then, um are any other cities in Brevard County, um what are they looking into? And is there any way cuz my concern with the brackish, I mean, I think it's a great option, it's just the cost after. Yeah. Um and so, I don't know if we any other cities have done

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studies that we can at least have an idea of what it's going to cost because it it from my little knowledge, it appears it's a whole new system, especially with the brine. And so, um I understand the why of why we need this feasibility study cuz we want to try to

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increase our CUP, but then and obviously, we want more clean drinking water, but then um what is the cost and is that something we can actually afford in our community if we're not growing at the rate uh I mean, we look at our growth rate and it really isn't that that much. And

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so, just wondering how that would would affect it. I think there's a lot of variables. You look at other studies, you know, you're not going to get the same thing. Our wells, our areas are different than others, so there's there depends on the water quality, treatment is different. So, we can look at that and we can kind of give you a rough

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order magnitude, kind of take a look at what's been done and what what costs are, but it's going to be a pretty big range, but this feasibility study will will give us a this is what you're looking at, this is this is the cost before we move forward into full design. If we look at it and go there there's no way, then you know,

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that's why you start with the feasibility study to kind of look at that stuff and see if there's a different way forward. And if we don't go with that the option, is there anything from this feasibility study that we can use if we decide we're not going to, you know, I mean, to spend $700,000 on a feasibility study is a

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lot. Is there stuff that we'll be able to take from that? Um instead It's only like 90,000. >> Oh, 90. Oh, well, there you go. That was the storm water one. >> Sorry. That's the storm water one. Okay. Not only 90. No, with the um the change order that TCRPC requested, if that's

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what you guys want to move forward with, I think that well field recharge is another big that could also increase our CUP. So, if we look at that and we say, we can still move forward with looking at possible ideas for well field recharge, then St. Johns will look favorably on that also. And then, last question, if we do the um change order,

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do we know how much it cost for the additional? >> No, that's what we'll have to I didn't want to reach out to them until you guys said that's what we want to do. So, we'll reach out to them, get you a price and come back to you with that. Thank you. Vice Mayor Cole. I know you haven't had a chance to price it out, but um

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a desal plant is expensive. >> very cost prohibitive cuz I've dealt with those before. And uh you know, in a smaller scale, that's what they use on submarines is uh they desal the water, they take the water out of the ocean to use it. So,

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you know, it almost and looking at the alternatives, it almost looked like if we can't use reclaimed water cuz we don't want to drink that, that you know, desal may be the way to go and I I'm not it's going to be cost prohibitive, so.

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>> the ground water desal is a little bit more cost effective than than straight ocean. I think that there's So, that's a different process, it's still reverse osmosis, right? >> same process, I think it's just a little on a smaller scale? >> Yeah. Okay. But Well, we won't know

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until you're able to price it out anyway. Thank you. Thank you very much. Appreciate you guys. City Manager. So, the last item is 4D, the annual sustainability action plan update. And Lily Gallego will go ahead and give us a

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presentation. Hello. Hello. Can you hear Okay. So, this is a rather large report. April's kind of our month to review the update on the sustainability action plan. I gave you all a copy as well.

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Sorry, it printed kind of weird. Um but it's a report basically summarizing all the actions taken against the sustainability action report from April 2025 to April 2026. Uh I just kind of felt that this outline kind of speaks for itself, so I'm going

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to run through it real quick. The table of contents intro, this is just for people who are unfamiliar with the action plan. Kind of goes over it a little bit. Then there's a section on the grant projects. Summarizes all the different um grants

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that we're currently or at least this department's currently um monitoring and managing. And um they have different uh related project pages that talk to them. And as of Friday, we were awarded that grayed out one, so bringing our total to

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$575,000 uh in grant funding, which is pretty good. And also how each of those grants relate to the SAP. This is example of a project page. This is for the urban forestry management plan. Tells you kind of where we're at with it, um any metrics related to

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the current project and then a QR code if they if the project has a uh project page. And this is for the energy audit, vulnerability assessment, and uh that's the flood flooding one that most people are probably familiar with.

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Um and then the SS4A only has a little one because it actually hasn't started yet. We just got awarded. So, page 13 is actually when we get into the meat of it. This is the actual reporting on all the six focus areas, the 28 objectives, and the 87 action items. Those actions taken and any

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metrics related to those actions, um mostly measured through website views tracked on Google Analytics. And I tried my best to count how many in-person um interactions that we had. Uh that's a

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pretty hard number to to track, I found out. The community conference was a big one, actually. If I go back, you can see the the web page for the community conference did better than any of the others combined. Combined, essentially. So, that was pretty good.

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Um 100% of the survey respondents who attended said that they did increase their understanding about local government, which was the whole point of that. So, that was good really great win. And then, summary of other actions and different pictures that I took over the year. You might recognize yourself in in

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it as well. Uh these are more objectives. Maps that are generated to try and track metrics in those objectives. The ecosystem and resiliency part that is heavily focused on what most people I think assume sustainability has stuff to

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do with, and it's the environmental metrics. That's largely due to the forestry plan and then LID is also the metric in there. So, we've increased our LID adoption rate by to 40%, so I also have a link for people who want to learn more about LID. We were

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featured at the MRC conference. We were educating other cities on how they can adopt LID, kind of lessons learned because we were the first to try and tackle that. So, they were very curious. And then, we're currently going through a six sigma project on how to better

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improve that that process as well. So, a lot of stats and monitoring in there. This is the living shoreline a year later. So, that was April 2025 and now 2026. I say it's looking pretty good, but the actual report for that won't come out until 2027, I believe.

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>> [sighs] >> Resilient Titusville, that's the that's the flood one that had a lot of engagement, mainly because of October, but we kind of were able to put this map to the test as well. And then, I did put it all online for people to pull up.

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That's the QR code there. Energy, that's honestly the biggest section of the SAP and probably with the least actions taken towards it, but I did join the East Florida Regional Planning Council's greenhouse gas committee to

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try and work on reducing emissions um as a collective, so in partnership with Brevard, Lake County, Marion County, Orange County, all of those guys. Um they just released a dashboard that they were making over the course of I believe a year or so.

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Oh. Oh. Sorry. The energy audit came back really interesting information. It was an ASHRAE level two energy audit, so it's a pretty detailed. They walked through the buildings, they identified almost $75,000, I believe, in energy savings projected. But I really think is interesting here is that it it makes a

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really strong case for LED lighting upgrades, almost as strong if not stronger than solar. So, we have all of that now information as well. This is the part that talks about trash and our um waste diversion rates and how we're monitoring that. So,

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since the SAP was adopted, we're gunning for a 20 75% diversion rate. Um based on the metrics, it's just really telling me that some major intervention probably needs to happen, otherwise we're going to keep coasting on a similar trend rate as we have been

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for past 5 years. Though I did make sure to go check I did do a tour of the recycling facility just for my own sanity check and talked with the manager. Watched where the trucks dump, how that whole process works, figuring out a metric of you know what actually ends up in the landfill versus

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what are they bundling and reselling as a as a business model. The mobility and transportation, that that is also partnering with TPD and doing a lot of the helmet fitting trying to get more mobility away from cars for the most

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part and being able to try and have more micro-mobility options. Water, interestingly enough, is not more about the lagoon, it's more so about water conservation and reducing our daily water consumption. So that's how that one item I believe that came before

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you all the CRA we identified that city hall was using about 45% more water than a median building of a similar size and our actual water uh like toilets and plumbing is is pretty efficient according to the audit. So he

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thought that maybe it was that water feature out front and then SEPTED kind of come up came up with a idea for how to maybe better use that space. So that's where that project is at. And then the smart growth, that's also going to be going back to the SS4A grant, but

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I did put in a couple metrics in there as well for anyone who wants to read this report about you know how many sidewalks did we repair, how many sidewalks did we add. This is all about being able to get around by bike or you know not car as well. And then lastly, the sustainable economy.

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Most of the efforts probably in this category was focused on um working with the youth of since my intern of last year created an entire framework for how to engage with the high school high school generation and

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she identified different ideas and clubs and field trips and partnership programs and we took that to the student advisory council and they ended up adopting the student leadership seminar which I was able to take away a lot of interesting insights about you know where our youth is

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thinking. It's about 18% of our population kind of where those future leaders are um headed. And then the last last part is the metrics which is arguably also one of the hardest parts of this plan.

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Mainly the big takeaway is just trying to figure out the SAP originally didn't talk about how to measure the metrics. So I tried to draft some, that's why the ones that are blank I haven't actually gone through the exercise of doing cuz they they get a little

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complicated. Um but I'm working through it. Ones I could find numbers for I put in there and then hopefully we'll be able to track it year over year. And then at the very very end is the actual original 2023 implementation plan.

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That's it. It's all online. So everyone can go read it. >> [laughter] >> Thank you very much Ms. Lilly. Um you know absolutely crushing it. There's about 80 some different projects you're working all at the same time. So I commend you for that and and and all that you do for

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our city. Member Stokal. Yep. Who made the booklet? I did. I figured that. Yes, and you just do an incredible job. You know that. Um and I just appreciate your passion that you bring. Um thank you for all you do. Thank you.

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Member Nelson. Okay. Lilly, I have a question for you. Okay. I don't know if you have an answer, but I'm going to give it to you. Every time I pass a gas station gas station station it's like

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$2.98, $3.15 where at $4. I don't see it going down. Mhm. Are we working maybe this is Tom question now. We can put Tom on the spot.

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And every time I see that and I'm like even if the war stops tomorrow we're still stuck with probably another year would you say of high gas prices?

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So is there any thought toward switching to electric? For for either vehicles or solar panels? Cuz we need gas for electricity.

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They In the plan, the sustainability action plan talks about the we have EV goals of trying to promote electrification in in the city. A lot of that is was originally in 2023 we were looking at should the city be having you know chargers and stuff like that and then the private sector kind of swooped

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in there and filled in a lot of the the gaps in a lot of their parking lots. So that kind of covered the It was more the plan mostly talks about EV readiness, not necessarily how to promote electrification like that. Though the energy audit talked a lot about moving

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to solar for the municipal buildings. I'm not sure what to do about the gas prices other than maybe talk about there is a section in the sustainability plan that talks about affordability and helping reduce poverty and I don't know. It's probably a reach, but >> [laughter] >> you know maybe the maybe we maybe [snorts] we

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should put Tom on the spot. I just you know I see the prices going up the gas price is going up. And we're paying um to put gas in our cars our city cars. And I'm like wow.

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Um I don't know how much we spent on fuel last year. But we're spending more money on fuel this year. We're going to spend more money on fuel next year. Is there a point where we say hey?

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There certainly is a point. I don't think we're there yet. Now I think the interim step would be transitioning to some of the more administrative vehicles to hybrids which get 40 or 50 miles a gallon and are not you know

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just EV or or internal combustion. Um another I think we would be looking at maybe in the future if gas prices continue and diesel is even more expensive than gas to look at some of the special vehicles like solid waste. Um

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you know not electric but uh natural gas. Okay. So [clears throat] we're looking but I don't think we're there and and you know And they're pricey. You know there's been prior to the you know recent gas spike I think

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major manufacturers are actually not making as many EVs and it's been downward. But I think this is spurred them to uh take another look at that as gas you know eclipses four, four and a half, five dollars a gallon EVs will become a

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um a more attractive choice and and if the initial costs come down where we can afford it certainly we would look at switching. Tom, can I interject? So I just want to point out that last week the governor signed a bill house

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bill 1217 that says we are not allowed to um pro provide procurement or purchasing preferences of any goods, vehicles, equipment based solely on the types of sources or fuel used. So we would have to do a major effort to show that it's cost savings to the city. We can't just

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we can't just say we want hybrid, we want electric. We need to do we need to do the full exercise. How many miles we do and how many miles we drive and make sure that it is the most cost effective method for the city. Okay. That makes sense. Okay, thanks. Thank you very much. Thank you again Ms. Lilly.

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And now we're on to petitions and requests from the public. We're in our CRA meeting. Or sorry, special presentations meeting at 5:30. Uh Stan Johnson here and I'm going to ask for another 3 minutes to make it 6 minutes. Uh I've got a mouthful. One of the things is it has to do with what Lilly

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was talking about, that's sustainability. I've sent you an email regarding um uh fools and uh liars. And in the case of the sustainability we

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have liars. And they we even have an admission by Brad Parrish in the sus sus the sustainability report we called resiliency 2019 it's fraud.

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So he admitted that in front of Joe Dinero and Joe Dinero was doing some things and uh he was taking care of it and revising the report and so forth and now the report is revised back again. So it's it's fraud.

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It's fraud and it's very serious fraud. It's costing the city as far as I can see over a number of years millions and millions of dollars. And the fraud is not only by by Brad but it's also by Lilly who just spoke. Um

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Eddie Galindo uh the East Central Florida Regional Planning Council. Uh and I've talked contacted them severely on this. It's they they're just lying. Uh so this is a a serious issue that's going on. We need to have uh stop the

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cover-ups of what the city has done in in their budgeting. We have we have a number of fraud budgets which I've talked to uh Tom and and Cook about that has been historically fraud by the city of Titusville in her budgeting process.

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So, uh I mentioned that, but I also mentioned to you about Chief Lau. I have two signs back there of of the corruption that he has been involved in, and I'm uh filing a uh a an internal affairs complaint against

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against Lau. I have considered him to be a good cop in many areas, but as far as I can see, he's changed. He's changed to a bad cop. I mean, he we've got uh I've been arrested falsely. I've been uh the records are are gone from the

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police department about my uh being visited in jail by the police officers. That's gone. The paper I signed for the police officers, that's gone. Interrogation papers, gone. The uh uh interrogation recording, gone.

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See, all these are serious. My understanding is a felony is what what's going on with what uh our chief of police has done, a felony. That's a pretty serious issue. So, uh uh I would like that to continue, and I'm asking for another 3 minutes. Can I

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get another 3 minutes? Are you interested in the fraud that's that's being perpetrated by Nelson and Stokoe and so forth? Thank you, Mr. Johnson. >> Thank you. Ms. Shifalo. Kind of forget. Let's start fresh. Shifalo, Tropic

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Street, the historic Norwood House. I'm here because this is a special recognition and presentation meeting, and I'd like to point out um I'd like to accentuate two resolutions at the April 21st

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meeting of the Brevard County Commission. Two resolutions that were brought forward by our District 1 Commissioner. And at an invitation, I was invited to come and accept for the

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citizens of all of Brevard County, not just District 1. The first resolution was to resolve that May is Citizen Empowerment Month. And that's why I said we ought to just kind of start fresh right here, because Citizen Empowerment

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is really a good thing to have your citizens participate in your meetings. And the second resolution was to recognize the Brevard Citizens Academy, of which I'm a two-time

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graduate, because I feel like you can't meet enough important people. And that's what happens at that Citizens Academy, kind of like hours here. Ours was a very good, but very brief. That's a 7-week session, uh one one session a week for 7

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weeks to meet all the different department heads of Brevard County. And it's also something that's attended by a lot of Brevard County staff people, so that they learn what's going on in other departments, because connecting the dots and having the right hand know what the

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left hand is doing is so important. It keeps things from slipping through the cracks. Things like sidewalks that should have been done maybe and now are, people would know what's going on. So, I just wanted to speak about those two

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resolutions by the Brevard County Commission and our District 1 Commissioner, and um make a public recognition that May will be Citizen Empowerment Month, and all citizens should get involved in

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their local government. Thank you very much. Thank you, Ms. Shifalo. Anybody else? All right. Seeing none, we're going to adjourn to our meeting at 6:30. Can I have a motion to adjourn? Motion to adjourn. I have a motion.

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We're adjourned.