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regulation. Good evening everybody. Welcome to the city of Titusville City Council regular meeting January 13, 2025 at 6:30. I'm going to call this meeting to order. for invocation. I would like to welcome Chaplain Brienne Robertson from the Titusville Fire Department to give the
invocation. >> Yeah. Push the button. >> Let's bow our heads, please. Heavenly Father, what a privilege it is to come before you. Thank you, Father, for the day that you've given us. Thank you for the new year that you've provided before
us. Lord, we just ask for your wisdom. We ask for your counsel this morning or this evening. We think of Proverbs where seek the Lord, trust the Lord in all our ways, lean not into our own understanding. So I just pray that you will open our ears to discernment to
that still small voice. Father, may we be a city that others look at us and say God is with them. And I pray that this meeting will be conducted with incredible power, Father, not by ourselves, but because of you and what you've done for our city, the protection
that you put over us. Father, we commit this time, may every word that is spoken be glorifying to you in your name. Amen. >> Amen. Thank you very much. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you very much. Before I hand it over to the city manager, I'm assuming
council's had an opportunity to review the minutes. Any questions, changes, or a motion to approve? Move to approve the minutes of the meeting on November 25th, 2025 and the special city council meeting on
December the 2nd, 2025. >> Second. >> I have a motion. I have a second. Any further discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Thank you very much, Mr. City Manager. >> Good evening, Mr. Mayor, Vice Mayor, and
members of council. We have uh two housekeeping items before we start the agenda. Um item number 9A, the Tranquility Development Agreement was withdrawn by the applicant and also the
um item number 12B, the Christian Court Townhouse was is being rescheduled uh at the request of the applicant to January 29th. Moving on to the agenda, the first item is the special presentations and
that is the employee of the month for January and our HR director Joe Dairo will be presenting that award to a deserving individual. >> Evening mayor, members council. Good evening. I'd >> like to take this time to recognize Mark
Langdorf, our risk manager. I've known him to be very humble. I've known his accomplishments and contributions to be always consistently high. He's made a difference in his work performance. He's
been very helpful to his employees. And let me just share with you some of the examples that uh has warranted this award. The trend in worker injuries resulting in medical claims and loss wages
citywide has decreased from $600,000 to less than $100,000 in the last five years. The financial impact has resulted in fewer lawsuits and fewer claims. In every worker injury claim, property
damage and claims, general liability, automobile collisions. Mark has ensured timely reporting to the insurer and third party administrator. Mark reviews incident reports, photos,
videos, medical records to determine who is at fault and limiting the city's exposure. Mark has worked with operating departments to assist them in improving workplace safety for all of our employees. Mark has worked with our legal team of
attorneys and adjusters to resolve claims efficiently. Two claims in particular, bacteria case and an automobile claim. sadly resulting in fatalities which could have gone to trial were resolved efficiently and
could have resulted in larger claim awards amounts against the city. Mark has settled claims managing the process from the moment that the loss occurs to the final resolution with a goal of a fair outcome at the lowest reasonable
cost. Mark has worked with our insurance carriers for recovered loss in car accidents and property damage and has taken steps to recover loss from the at fa third party who causes the damage
ensuring the responsible party ultimately pays not just the city's insurer. During this time employed by the city, Mark has recovered over $2 million in claim recovery dollars for losses
against the city. Thank you, Mark. I would just like to say before we move on about Mr. Mark, um I've had an opportunity to talk insurance with him and uh hands down very very smart guy and you know obviously doing a very
great job. So thank you Joe. Thank you Mark. We really appreciate it. >> City manager. >> Yes sir. Moving on to item six boards and commissions. We have one item and that is the historic preservation ordinance and the recommended action is to accept the historic preservation
board's recommendation to adopt an amendment to the city's historic preservation ordinance as recommended in the historic preservation offices report. And we have our community development director Brad Parish will give some amplifying information on that
item. The Historic Preservation Board uh considered a recent bill or bill that was approved by the legislature last year to allow local communities to adopt additional fines for certain demolitions. Uh they discussed that um
in the framework of several issues that they've found in the past five or 10 years. They've identified several uh potentially qualifying historic resources in the city that have been dem um demolished uh through our normal
permitting process. So they saw that as a a complete loss of our historic fabric city and most of these structures that were well that were demolished were not protected by the local ordinance were on the national register. They were just identified as potentially qualifying.
So what they have um asked our historic preservation officer, Miss Pat Teaeski with um Inspire Placemaking Incorporated in Orlando, she did some research at their request and provided this to report in your packet describing some
options. And the ask to you tonight from the historic preservation board is whether you concur with this and whether you would like us to go forward with potentially drafting an ordinance to strengthen our demolition procedures. So
specifically if a historic resource that we know to be historic based on potentially on one of our surveys that we have and we have quite a few of those that are listed on there probably about 150 resources throughout the city. if they are identified as uh historic and
we have a a request for a demolition permit that we would ask them to potentially delay that issuance of that permit a little longer than we normally would issue um a permit. So typically it's about 30 days at the maximum. uh we would probably need a little extra time
in order to ask the applicants for some time to be able to go in and document the resource in some way and potentially ask the applicant to maybe consider salvaging some of the unique materials that might be in that resource. That is
uh essentially the crux of the request. If you concur with that, we'll come back to you with an draft ordinance either in draft form for your input or potentially going ahead and publishing an ordinance. Uh the chairman Alan Kiso with the Historic Preservation Board is here also
to answer any questions. >> Does uh council have any questions for Brad? Member Mscoso? >> Um do we have a list of how many um buildings have been demolished in the past 5 years um that could have been protected under SB582
or like a like a general number? >> I want to say there um I believe we did provide some information to storeboard. I didn't have that available tonight, but I want to say about 10 in the past five years we've uh discovered, but I don't know
how many of those would have potentially been, you know, could have been preserved or protected by that new house bill or by any other regulation we might have. >> Okay. Thank you, >> member Stokal. >> Yes. Um I guess through your research
and I see there's some examples from other cities here as well. Um kind of to member Mscos's point of knowing how many two things that I feel like I I want to make a good decision on. One is I would like to preserve whatever we can and
make sure that the historic board or whoever can go in and document items. So that's one thing and I know this got brought up before um as a request. And then the second though is and it's hard to say if we don't know how many are requesting or how many are getting demoed is I don't want to prolong a
project necessarily where time is money and we're saying hey we know you're trying to start and costs are rising but we need to delay it two months where that could cost them x amount of dollars. So, I don't know how to reconcile those two ideas into what
seems like a feasible uh option for us given how many properties are getting demolished annually versus how many could potentially how many we currently have. That I think that information would be helpful for me to make a decision. >> Thank you very much, member MSOS.
>> Sorry. Thank you. Um, and then I see that it says the city may want to consider a code enforcement program to check on certain structures um to ensure they are properly maintained. Um, could you uh explain that a little bit and what that might look like?
>> Sure. That is some jurisdictions have what's called a demolition by neglect ordinance and that is something that was identified in the adopted historic preservation plan. One of the recommendations was to for the city to consider that. Basically what it means is that some property owners who have
historic resources that are protected in some way will allow it to be neglected over time um as a means to say later on look I can't salvage this I can't protect it um so some communities have a particular ordinance where code
enforcement can address those issues to make sure that they are being maintained in a proper way. >> Okay. Yeah. I think for me I really I I saw that and I thought that was a really good idea. Um, and so I'm thankful that that was that was put in. And so that would just be code enforcement going out
and kind of being proactive on these properties and just checking >> primarily. I I'm not familiar with the details of how the ordinance works, but that's something we could explore as part of this. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Anybody else? >> City clerk,
>> we have one card. It's Tony Shel. Shifila, the historic Norwood House, please. One of the things that's happened recently that one of the board members for the historic preservation board pointed out to our board is that in the
last few years there have been five houses in our it's not a designated historic district per se, but down along the river drive um five of those homes have been
demolished to build McMansions. And that just really destroys not only the rhythm of the neighborhood, the scale of the neighborhoods. So to have an ordinance in place uh to take old buildings
um and the ordinance right now is kind of restricted to the ones that have been identified on our 2012 and 2018 surveys. Um so we don't have a lot of historic stock. We need to protect what we do
have. And I I know Brad had the same um concern that you did about slowing down the process. That is the point. Slow it down so that we have time to document maybe to salvage and ideally to change
the owner's I I mind to renovate, rehab instead of demolish. So, we need a stronger ordinance. And I realize that in this day and age, you can't go around telling land owners you shall,
but I sure would like to tell them you should. So, thank you very much. >> Can I ask her a question? >> Yes. >> Tony, um, and you mentioned the three homes um, along the river, but they weren't on the his like the registry. So if we were to look at an ordinance,
would that even protect for instance that issue that happened? >> It wouldn't. But I remember that in talking about it on the board, we talked about not just homes or buildings that are on
the survey because commercial structures as well, but that >> any structure that is of a certain age. Um, now we look back 50 years, but we could say 75 if we wanted on a rolling
basis as you know we get further away from mid-century modern. Those houses are old now. So, but to preserve the older structures. >> Okay. Thank you, >> Brad. I do have one additional question
for you. Um, we have a list of all the historical properties whether they're on the registry or not, but just deemed by us as a city and our historic preservation board. Correct. We have surveys that the city has conducted total of three
>> um that identify several resources that resources mean structures, land, properties, whatever that might be that are could be uh considered historic in some fashion whether meeting one of the criteria of the department of interiors. uh whether they would qualify on the
national register have to meet a high bar whether they qualify on the local register or they just are contri they could contribute to a larger district. So that's what we have about 150 structures altogether. There could be more uh each time we do a survey it's
based on a grant we get from the um the state and it's just based on the capacity of how how many resources we can actually identify within that amount that budget. And then my next question is of of the folks on that list, have we
communicated to the property owners? >> We have not reached out to property owners regarding this or this uh this request. >> Okay. Just, you know, a little concerning when you're telling you shall or you should and we haven't gotten any of their feedback. You know, usually
when we up we're up here, we try to get feedback from the entire community. And I would, you know, strongly suggest that we get feedback from the property owners as well. Um because I'm thinking about how old my home is and it's over 50 years. It's a little concerning. You know, what if you I do my best to keep
it up, but then eventually I want to build something smaller. I don't know. Uh Vice Mayor Cole, >> yes, I agree with Mayor Connor's. uh if we could at least send a letter to the indust and you never know how much
cooperation we may get from them as far as uh preserving the homes that they have. >> Thank you very much, Vice Miracle. Anybody else? Vice May, >> I was going to make the motion. >> What are you making a motion to
>> Mr. Allen? Um, Al Keysel. I'm the chairman of the Historic Preservation Board. Um, the intention of this procedure is not to stop people from demolishing their homes or to violate the property rights in any way. What we are attempting to do is set
up a procedure whereby if a house that is over 50 years old or is listed on one of our many surveys is applied for demolition to give the board a little bit of time through our our certificate of appropriate process to look at that
in property on an individual basis. So, in in the case of your home, if if it's looked at and it's first looked at by staff, if it doesn't really meet the criteria for a further review, then the demolition process just moves forward
like it normally would. But, you know, let's just say as a worst case scenario, somebody's living in the Pritchard house and they decide that they want to tear it down and they want to build condos. So, obviously, that would make a lot of people very upset. It's a very old home. It's very historic and it's, you know,
part of the center of the downtown district. So what our ordinance would do in that case with the changes is that we would review that property. We would try to discuss with the owner alternatives, be it salvage or documentation or
rehabilitation. But the the the core of it is is that if we find properties that are on our surveys or that have historic character or historic properties to them, it gives us the opportunity to at the very least document these properties
prior to them being demolished. So at least the material itself is not lost forever. So, with that, if anybody has any follow-up questions, >> I completely understand that and I understand the intent of uh what the Historic Preservation Board is trying to
accomplish. Uh my concern is if we're looking at passing an ordinance is communicating to those property owners who the ordinance is going to directly impact. And if you look at specifically at least those 150 properties that have been identified through the various surveys, you know, just at least bringing them into the conversation to
get feedback, I think would would make sense. >> Absolutely. No problem with that. Um, but as I said, it's it would not stop anybody from demolishing anything. If worst situation could be that the board may either with its own resources or
with our historic preservation officer send somebody out to document that property, be it a quick sketch or some photographs or something like that. We're trying to make it as unintrusive as possible so as to not interfere with people's property rights. >> Thank you, Member Stokl.
>> Yes. Um, so to clarify the request is you're wanting us to give advisability to drafted ordinance for a potential and I'm looking at the examples here and it looks like um most of them are a delay of six months or a year with a potential for extension. Have you guys thought
about how much time you would potentially want >> if it as I said earlier if it's if it's if it's just let's just say it's a house that's 50 years old and there isn't really it's not it's not a prime example of a particular architectural style or has any historic merits to it. It would
be a simple matter of staff reviewing it, looking at it saying >> we don't need >> no problem keep you know go ahead and demolish it. If something that does have like let's just say we've come across some house that nobody realized the Colonel Titus lived in. Mhm. >> Then obviously we would probably want to
document that, photograph it, update the MA Florida master site files on it, at least try to talk the owner into salvaging it or rehabilitating it or doing some kind of adaptive reuse on it. But in the end, if they decide they don't want to do that, we're just asking for sufficient time to document
historic resources prior to there being lost forever. Do you think that uh six months would be sufficient time or would you >> or have you guys thought about that yet or would you want some time to think about with the time frame? >> We haven't discussed it in length as a board. Um but from my opinion personally
um if if it's a if it's a non-historic type property, it it could go immediately right to demolition at that point. if something like the Pritchard House or some other uh house that has a lot of history or even commercial property has a lot of history involved in it. Um I mean I don't know if Brad
can answer this, but if we had to get our historic preservation officer involved in it, it could conceivably take a few months for them to do a full in-depth report, >> but I don't see that happening on the majority of the cases. It would be a very a highly selective process.
>> Okay. No, thank you for clarifying that. Any other questions? Thank you very much. Thank you, >> Member Stokel. >> Yeah. So, I think what I'm leaning toward is um having Brad look at drafting a potential ordinance based on
what they're requesting and as we draft that, send out the lettering them letting the 150 know that we are looking to draft this. This is what we're thinking to get their feedback on it and then we go kind of make a decision from there. >> Yeah. Um just to before a second just a
friendly amendment because you know if there's an ordinance to reszone as an example they have to notify you know the neighbors and post. So I think that's really really key to this is getting their feedback if we're making an ordinance specific. >> I guess I don't want to ask for their feedback if they're don't even know what we're proposing. So that's kind of where
I would like to give them something of what we're looking at and they might say oh that's that's fine. I have no issue with that. That makes sense. Or no this is crazy. I would just want to give them something. >> I understand. I appreciate it. All right. So, we have a motion on the floor by member Stokal uh to go forward with
the advisability. >> I'll second with discussion. >> Member MSOS. >> Um how how did we come up with this 150 number? >> That's the total number of resources been identified from the three surveys that we have. One was done in 1987, 2012, and another one in 2015.
>> So, we're only we would only be notifying those 150 >> if that's your request. uh there could be other resources that could qualify as historic that have not been identified on the survey. So it really depends on what how we want to frame that ordinance or who you want to notify. >> Okay. And what would you recommend?
>> You could start with the resources that we've officially identified on those surveys. Um there have been instances where we've caught or found you know someone wanting to demolish a resource or project property rather that is not identified on those surveys and we've
asked them could you consider or could you salvage some of the material there so that has happened a few times. >> So it's a lot of it's case by case as well. Yes ma'am. >> Okay. Thank you. Any further discussion? Members still >> And just to clarify, I think that this would be to notify those, but the
ordinance potentially would be impacting whoever is identified even later on. So, they would fall into it, but they might not have been notified. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. >> I. >> All opposed.
Motion carries unanimously. I don't think I heard you say hi. I, but I didn't hear you say nay. So, you're >> sorry. >> Yeah. >> Motion carries. Thank you very much, city manager. >> Next item is petitions and requests.
>> Petitions and requests from the public. Non-aggenda items. >> Mr. Johnson, do you want to lead us off? Stan Johnston. Uh I'm especially first of all I want to thank Mr. Cook for uh
his answer to the uh POS in our uh POS and other other uh forever chemicals in our water supply. He said it's measured now at 2.4 parts per trillion. No. Yeah. 2.4. And
the maximum allow was four. So, um, we beat MEMS big time, uh, this time, but what we had tested was 176 parts per trillion some years ago. So, uh, u, so the red-haired girl is going to be
very happy. Stell Bailey, she's going to be very happy. Uh but what I'm brought to you today is an email that I sent you uh December the 29th. It has to do with millions and millions of dollars that
have uh it has to do with a lot 11 items of regarding a lot of money and uh there's 11 of them and the first eight of them are have to do with flood control. So I'll just go over it. Number two has
I'll read it to you. It says uh this there's a fraud uh beginning in 2019 Brazilian Titusville report and uh it's continued now into the next uh fraud and
uh that's today. So what we have is not following that storm water management plan. And we have I've I've I've said this many times is that uh going to I95 and looking
westward looking at the ditches all you see is growth except for one area. And so four of these six six culverts between Foxlake Road and State Road 50 are completely overgrown and we have
water coming into the city instead of out of the city as per the design. So what the city is doing is is they're um they're they're watching their typing their things like Mrs. Stoke was doing
and um not listening u but there uh how can I say this is that is that it's it's it's also compounded by east east central Florida regional planning council and it's just
not working. the the uh ditches are are not there and water's going into the city instead of out of the city. So um that's been going on for many years and the storm water plan is hasn't been followed for at least 59 years 1966.
So I'm asking you to do something about it. Thank you. >> Thank you Mr. Johnson. My name is Bill Kosma. I live at 2310 Maryland Avenue in Titusville. Um, I came here to address the flooding
that we had in October 23rd and we got an extraordinary amount of rain that day. The flooding flooded my house. I got a foot and a half of water through my house and neighbors to the east and west of me total of five were also
destroyed. They had to be completely gutted. Now this rain we couldn't predict but I believe it was preventable because of the construction of the new building to the east of Tennessee.
And there was a dam they put in there right in front of the covert that drains all the neighborhoods from my house west to uh Shady Oaks and other neighborhoods. They all flow into that
ditch. Well, they built a dam to install the pipes for that new construction. And when they did, they were pumping the water out so they could install theirs, which meant blocking off the exit part
of the cover. The rain came on Sunday night. They finished their work on Friday. I was told by a neighbor down the street that they called somebody, which I don't have the name quite yet. And within 10 minutes after that phone
call, water started rushing out of there. I mean, it was really rushing out. I keep 350 gallon barrels of sand and that is quite heavy and it washed them completely down to the ditch to the exit point. Anyway, I was coming
here to find out who to talk to, but Miss Rard said I should talk to Mark Landorf, your employee of the month. So, that's what I'm going to do. I got his information here, but I've been to meetings years past talking about the
drainage and how poor it was. And the ditch has always been neglected, overgrown, a lot of plantation life, and it just clogs the drain. So anyway,
I got the guy who I need to talk to. So I just wanted to let everybody be aware of what we're doing here. So that's all I got. >> Thank you very much. And to just give you an update. You know, our storm water mass plan last time was done in 1966. Council has uh moved forward a plan to
get that updated. And I think uh the discussion we have had is making sure we know every ditch where it's going. Is it connecting to the county? Is it connecting to us? who's responsible and who do we need to make sure is >> that seems to be the issue because it was always the city saying it's a county. The county saying it's the city.
>> Yep. We're going to iron that out >> and that needs to be done. But um we got no assistance and it was no secret that the flooding happened and ruined a lot of houses. >> We couldn't even get out. I mean the water was up to my chest. That's how
deep the water was in the street. Yep. >> Ruined my truck, ruined my house. It just >> Can I ask a question because I'm I'm very familiar with this street. >> Um h with all the hurricanes that we've had, have you ever had that flooding happen before?
>> It has come close, >> but never in the home. >> I sanded I always put sandbags up three high and it has come >> close but never has gone in the house. >> It never did because I sandbagged the whole thing. >> Okay. >> But this was unpredictable so I didn't
have time to do any preparations. And then um in your opinion, was it from this dam that was built or is it from the ditch that was not maintained? >> I think it was a combination of both because when that dam was I don't I don't sure if it called a dam, but
that's what it was like because it was right in front of the covert. When that was removed, water really started flowing out. Everybody's garbage cans were gone. >> Okay. >> You know, I mean, trash was supposed to come that next morning. >> Yeah. Nobody had a trash can anymore.
They were all gone. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. >> Thank you, Membershal. Uh just one more point I want to address is, you know, I mentioned county ditches, I mentioned city ditches, but the other factor is private ditches. And
so that I believe needs to be a part of the scope of what we're working on because, you know, if somebody has a ditch, maybe they inherited it or whatever, there maybe could have been four buyers ago that built that house. I don't know. On the north side of my house, there is wetlands and a swell. I wouldn't call it a ditch
really, but it's just a swell. >> And where it crosses under Maryland, those uh where the water goes in from the street, they have dropped like two feet and people are keep putting blocks up to
keep the dirt from running in. >> So, I mean, something is up with under that street. And I know they did come out yesterday and they were pumping mud and all kinds of stuff. And they said that it was really clogged up.
So, yeah, I have a swimming pool. I had a swimming pool. It turned into a muck pile. You know, I had to have that pumped out, get all the dirt out of there. And 19 inches up on the screen is the water level. So, that's a lot of
trash. >> Absolutely. >> Into my house. and you know just haven't heard anything from anybody you know. >> Well, thank you very much for coming here. >> All right. Thank you. >> Oh, did you want to go next? >> Hi, I'm I'm Gail. I'm William's wife. Um
it was he said the 23rd but it was October 26 the day of the flood. Um Gail Kuzma and I live at 2310 Maryland Avenue. Um, I visited the storm water department in
September of 2025 and I was inquiring about when they last dredged the ditches and I was told that it had been over two years since they dredged the ditches in
back of Maryland Avenue. That's what she looked up and I'm like, why hasn't this been done? You know, especially with the hurricanes and everything, two years. And she says, okay, I'll put you on this schedule.
So, that was the facts I got. And I told her that this assisted living facility was being built down towards the end of our street. I said, "How is that going to affect us on Maryland Avenue?" I said we
already got issues with drainage and storm water. The city does not maintain their ditches. They do not maintain the retention pond. And now they're putting in an assisted living facility that's going to be connecting
into the little retention pond at the end of our street. I said, "How is this going to work? We're concerned." and she told me, "Go down to city hall and talk to development, the head of development."
And I says, "Okay, I'll do that." So, I came down to city hall and I talked to the head of development. And I don't know his name, but I know what he looks like. And he assured me that
>> I don't No, it wasn't you. It wasn't. It wasn't you, but I thought I was talking to the head of development. >> He he he told they told me it was head of development. It wasn't you, though. But um
at first he didn't really want to talk to me, but he did. He finally took me in into his office and he showed me the outlay of this assisted living where they were going to have three retention ponds. one here, one here, and another
third one here, which was gonna, you know, finally go off into our little retention pond that is never maintained. And but he said, "Well, it it really shouldn't be a problem, you know, because it's only going to get to that
pond when these other two are full, and you know, it should be okay." So, that's what he told me. and um he said it really shouldn't shouldn't shouldn't affect anything for us on Maryland Avenue. So, I just got one last thing to
say. Our house had over $100,000 worth of damage. $100,000 and $100,000 worth of contents damage. And the city is not maintaining the storm water drains
and the drainage anything. And we have been to multiple city hall meetings about the storm water drainage on our street. This could have been I know this was a flash flood, you know, but this could
have been prevented. >> Thank you. City Manager. Oh, excuse me one second, Miss K. I keep stopping you. >> Okay, >> city manager. I know you guys have your little community uh meeting on on storm
water planned on the 22nd. However, I I believe I speak for all of council when I say how are you going to ensure that the ditches be properly maintained? How I'm going to maintain the proper uh
>> how are you going to ensure that we fix this problem so that the ditches are properly maintained? Well, I understand you know usually we get told the schedule and I appreciate that every 3 years resources are scarce. We don't have a thousand people running around every day doing all the things that we
need to be done. However, this is something that I believe is critically important to all of council. Absolutely. >> And we want to make sure that this doesn't happen again. >> Well, as far as routine maintenance, you know, I want to ensure that I provide the
storm water division with the proper resources and staffing and and equipment to maintain the schedule. I have a fantastic supervisors. Uh Sandy Reer is doing a great job. She's got that schedule. We're going to hold a meeting on the 22nd. We're looking at the
scheduling. We're going to be doing the storm water master plan um to that will address those issues. So, we're working really hard, but as you know, that flash flood was a one in 500 year storm and um it it's not an excuse. We still have to
do our our job to maintain the ditches, but that was something that probably very few cities, if any, can can plan for a storm of that magnitude. But certainly for normal um storm water um it's on us to ensure those ditches are
properly maintained. And I've got the staff that's going to be looking into doing that. >> And and I'll just ask one more question. Is there anything else you guys need to get the job done? >> Well, we need to get properly resourced.
As you know, we we did not get um as much money as we needed to do all the storm water um issues and during the budget we only got 17%. We had asked for 28% but uh still we need to make best use of that money and we'll be looking
at our resources in this upcoming budget year. We're going to be looking into that uh in stormwater master plan. So, um, you know, we're looking into making sure that we we can do better. >> Thank you, city manager. Member Mscosto.
>> Sure. Um, I'm looking at uh the property right now and where the ALF it hasn't started being built yet, has it? Because I know I mean the area is just full of trees, beautiful trees that soak up a lot of the water. So, once that is
built, this problem is going to be exacerbated. So, it's going to be more than just cleaning out the ditches. And I know that when you build a development, you have to make sure that the storm water is contained on the site, but I can't imagine once this this is built what's going to happen. And so,
um, I I want to apologize and I want to say I'm so sorry that you guys are going through that and thank you so much, um, for coming and sharing this with us. Um, so, thank you, >> Stokal.
>> Yes. Um, and I think to what the mayor's point is is we recognize as council that you haven't even been in the job a year yet. And I think for us being in and taking over the city manager role, I think a lot of our frustration and what we want to do is make sure what was just
shared never happened like that. That was to me the our worst nightmare to have that happen. And so to the mayor's second point, his question is we want to be informed of as you recognize and you know this is a top priority for us. Let
us know what do we need to do as council. What policy do we need to change? How much money do we need to make sure that somebody doesn't come in and say, "Hey, I think my ditch needs to be maintained and it's been two years and if that's not good enough and that's things that we don't know if we don't
know." And I think that's kind of where and I know you haven't been in being able to lead the city um a long time. I think that's where I feel like is one of our top priorities as council and we just want to make sure that we can do that. And I think the first step is having this meeting and seeing, okay,
what are the concerns? What are things that citizens are noticing? How have they been communicated with? And then what can we now do to make sure that that doesn't happen. >> Absolutely. >> Thank you, >> Vice Mayor Cole. I think I can piggy
back on to what everyone said and maybe from our meeting on the 22nd, we will come up with additional people that we may need as a requirement that you give us an additional funding that you may need to make sure that we ensure that
this works. And I realize that we did not fully fund you uh in this budget, but we need to do something because it's obvious that it's a very bad problem in our city. I think it's interesting because I don't remember that being part of the
discussion when we had our budget hearing for storm water. >> So mess >> sorry. And then looking at the meeting um from what I understand and please correct me if I'm wrong, there isn't going to be a time for public comment.
Is that correct? It's going to be more Is it more tables that people are going to? >> Are you talking about the January 22nd meeting? >> Yes. It is just a staff workshop informal for citizens to come into informative to um talk about what staff
is planning as far as storm water management. It's not involving council. So >> well I'll definitely be there and >> well absolutely I mean >> but I want when I proposed having this I wanted where people could come and and share what was happening. I think that's
important. I don't think anybody wants to come and walk around to five different tables and be told, "Yes, we're maintaining this, we're doing that." Those are great things, but um I expect people to come in like this family who have experienced flooding and
will rightfully be be angry. And I think we need to be able to to hear that. And so I would love to work on the format of this. I went to the uh the one that we had at Tom Stratton Park. um I can't remember if it was urban forest and to be honest it was a bit disappointing. It
was basically just consultants telling us what they were doing but people didn't have the opportunity to really give their opinion and to share and that that's not comfortable to do and it's not comfortable often to hear but I think that's how we're going to make um actual change is when we're sitting down
and we're we're listening to people and hearing their frustrations and saying okay this is this is serious and not everybody's going to come before council and do that. So, I applaud you guys for doing that. I think we need to provide a place that people feel comfortable doing that and um not I mean tables are great
and having our staff out there is is as is really helpful, but I think we might need to look at the format and uh reformat it a bit so that it's um more citizen focused instead of um what I'm what I'm thinking is going to happen at this meeting.
>> Member Stokel. >> Yes. I I think I was thinking it was going to be citizens because to that point when this flooding issue did happen. I know several of us on here were contacted individually and because of sunshine law we can't talk about that. So, I was hoping that this workshop would be a chance for us to
hear from citizens collectively like the things that I heard about Brookshshire, about Maryland, about different areas in town and now we all get to hear it and have that discussion collectively of okay, this is a trend we're seeing from citizens because citizens they are limited with their resources as well.
And so this that's what I was hoping I guess and if we can have that be a part of it um I would like to see that as well. >> Thank you. >> All right. Thank you very much. See no other discussion. Um, Miss K, I I do
apologize. >> I do live on Maryland, but I was not flooded. Thank you very much. But I'm very happy that um my neighbors did come. There are several other households that were flooded. Uh, and the people's
homes are still no longer livable. They're living in hotels. they're living in a family's back bedroom, you know, and at great difficulty to themselves. And so I appreciate that you're addressing this tonight. And um I did
want to say that um Sandereller sent the ditch diggers out to our neighborhood uh yesterday and they came with their huge equipment and scooped it out and they're going to come back and do some more. They came up with this huge vacuum
machine and put that down the manhole and sucked out the cover underneath Maryland. And hopefully these uh these efforts that she's being made won't uh allow our neighborhood to flood again anytime soon because I was worried that
the people are spending up to $200,000 on their homes and the repairs have not been done to the ditch and it could rain again anytime like that. We never know when to expect these kind of rains. So, thank you very much, Sandra, for coming out and getting your crews to come out.
And yes, please do fund. Um the the ditch used to be cleaned about every year. I remember I've lived there for quite some time and every year I'd be like, "Oh, they're here coming cleaning the ditch." Well, apparently your funding didn't allow for that recently. I don't
but you're going to have to do it because the we're we're building more and more and we're not taking care of the existing houses well enough is my opinion to tell you the truth. But that's not why I came why want came tonight. I wanted to plug the urban
forest master plan. Uh the trees that will be planted that I'm expecting the city to plant through the urban forest master plan will help reduce flooding. Did you know that trees suck up a significant amount of water if they're strategically planted in such places?
Sandra is also put in tree wells. Um trees can make a big difference. And on Friday, we're having the Arbor Day celebration. Once a year, the city has an Arbor Day celebration at um the Purch House at 11:00. And that is because we
are Tree City USA. Trees can actually help our city in many, many ways. And yes, they have started building this. It's a living facility next to uh Grove Park and they have removed a huge amount of that 13 acres worth of trees. They
are saving quite a few grandfathered in trees, some nice great big ones and I'm happy to know that. But um development keeps on coming and and the best way to address it is to have something like an urban forest management plan to
strategically plant trees to help re compensate for how many are being removed. Thank you very much. >> Thank you, Miss K. >> Dr. Kathleen or Rook and um Titusville resident. I just listening to this talk. I'm just want a general comment. I might
even be short, but I'm from public health. Prevention is better than treatment. And I'm listening to all these problems we have. And at the same time, we have a tremendous amount of, I would say, incredibly irresponsible upcoming developments that are being pro
proposed. Um, one example of course I know well is Royal Oak, which is an area that holds so much water when it rains and and if you put homes in there and I don't care what the fancy developers say
and their teams all say, you know, they said that in Edgewater. I'll remind everybody they this was all approved by St. John's and look what's happened to Edgewater. It's flooding everywhere. And it's nice to call these 150year storms. It makes us feel very safe. that doesn't really mean a whole lot because climate
change is going on. So, if there's all this support for development in these tree planes, we're not preventing. And it's time to get smart. We have an old storm water plan that's not up to date. And you just can't be making these big decisions that are tremendously
dangerous to the city. and just to plug the trees. When people take all those old big trees out and they just pretend it doesn't make a big difference in terms of storm water and that is just malarkey. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Dr. Oor. Anybody else for petitions or requests from the public? Non-aggenda items. >> Yeah, we also have Azil Hickman. I think that doesn't realize he needs to come up now. >> Okay. >> All right. Well, Mr. Azelle Hickman. I
did I say that right? >> Yes. >> All right. >> Then what's your name, sir? >> Sir, >> what? >> What What's your name? >> My name is Gary. >> Thank you, Mr. Gary. I'll call you up after him. >> Thank you.
>> Hi, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Isaiah Hickman. I reside on 938 WC Stanford Street. I'm here tonight because six months ago,
I had a tree over in the ditch that I came up here and tried to get the city to move it. They say it was too close to my evening from the movie.
Uh they give me I don't know which one of these gentlemen were numb and all. I called nobody come out. If they if they did, I didn't see them.
Uh the street I live on, every house there a oak tree will build or will put on on the property somewhere. But a certain officer have a mother that
lives on that same street that the man that they tell me give the order to take out of thing, the officer and this young fella,
they went to school together. So the city took the tree out for her and it's about six or seven feet in her yard from the ditch. Uh if you go down WC Stafford, you'll
see where they left it up. Got a blue top on the house. I came here in 60 in 66 and t with three girls and tense to educate them
and that's what I did. I educated all three of them. Everyone since then educated her. Matter of fact, she the one that run that school out there at the Gibson Center.
Adopted a son and I also raised a young man. My son is a truck driver. the one we adopted here in Boston working in a school and a minister.
All my life I've been trying to help people. I have fed 500 people in one time near my family. >> I'm sorry, sir. I do have to stop you, but I you know I do appreciate your service to our community. I know you've
been around here a long time. Um Kevin Sandy, do you know what tree is in question? >> Address. >> What's your address again? What's the address where the tree is located? >> Hey, pardon. >> What is the address in which the tree is located?
>> My mine is the one that the city took down. >> The one that you need that you want take down, right? >> I had to take it down. The insurance people going going take my insurance from me. And I know what that was going on.
>> Okay. So, what is your address? So that we can look into it. >> I went and got the took the tree down. It cost me 30 $3,000 to get the tree down. >> Okay. So, you already took the tree down. >> I took it down. >> Okay.
>> Well, I I help took it down. >> Okay. >> And I'm 87 years old. >> The address is 930 West Stafford. Okay. What is your ask of us? >> Your pardon? >> What is your ask of city council?
>> I'm I'm just trying trying to figure out do they take do the city take trees out of certain people's yard? >> Not to my knowledge. >> Huh? >> Not to my knowledge. >> Not to your knowledge. >> No. >> Well,
mine was in the dick and this person is in the yard. They took D out the yard, but wouldn't take mine out the ditch. So, it's in the ditch. I can't get down in there unless I go
uh through somebody else. >> He took No, he took the tree down. Um the address of the other tree that you, you know, said was taken down by the city. Please provide that address to Miss Sandy over there and we'll look into seeing what happened and why. Sound
good? >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, >> sir. >> Yes. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh, last year I addressed the city council about a problem we have with our stop lightss.
We have two major stop lightss. They have the weirdest situation. We have turnails on one side but not the other side. I asked them to check into that. We have major traffic problems with those two sections. And that's Bara and
50. And it's also Knox McCrae and Bara. Don't ask me why. Whoever I I waited a year and it hasn't been fixed. It need We have more traffic than we ever had. We are shooting oursel in the
foot by not fixing this. That's one. I live at Oak Trails at Middle Ridge. I am watching tractor trailers go by my neighborhood. Tractor trailers, 53 foot trailers go down a road in a residential area. Unacceptable. They're cutting from
Bara. They're cutting I mean from 50. They're cutting across going down Bara to cut to Highway 50 instead of going up where the rest of the trucks go on 50 up to the intersection and go to 95. We have kids playing nearby. We have
residential people. It's unacceptable. I love this city. We're shooting oursel in the foot. We have three other places that we have no trailer. I mean, no truck. I asked and I was told, "Oh, well, we got to have trash trucks." Well, hello folks. We put a limit. No
five ton over five tons. And we have several high several roads in this city that says with has a truck with a red stripe on it. We have got to fix this. It's going to get worse. We're going to get This is a great city. People realize it and they're going to keep coming.
They're going to keep huming. I'm tired of I used to complain when there's five cars. Now there's 15. >> Okay. Yeah. I voted for you, so I expect you to do something. >> Thank you. >> Uh thank you for what all you do here. Okay. You make things happen. You can
make this city better. Uh it's frustrating to be in a line of traffic. Okay, please let's let's fix this. Now, one last thing. Are you I don't know who this falls into because I'm on the border of the county and the city. If
you go out of Oak Trails at Meal Ridge onto Barner and you go south to 405, they are building a whole new community. I must be 14,600 apartments and it's going they're going to be
coming on to 405. It is going to be a nightmare. I don't know what's going to happen, but I hope they don't finish while I'm still alive. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much, sir. Uh, regarding the the state route uh 50, that's an
FDOT matter. So, we'll have to take it up with them to see if we can uh you know, apply some some pressure. Um, I think on but you mentioned Bara and Knox McCrae, right? And so, >> yeah, that one's in the city. Hopefully, Mr. Kevin, city manager, you guys can
look into that for us. And then, correct me if I'm wrong, but I did believe we passed the no through trucks ordinance last year. >> That's Dublin draft. It's in the bottle. It's in the line of ordinances that are going through the legal office. >> Yeah. So, we're we're putting that ordinance in place and then hopefully we
can get some signs out and then if they're not following it, then you know, we'll have to step up enforcement. >> Thank you. >> So, thank you. Anybody else for petitions and requests, non-aggenda items? Seeing none, moving on to consent agenda. City manager, >> next item is the consent agenda. We have
nine items. Are any items uh council wishing to pull? >> Seeing none, city manager, >> I'll go ahead and I'll read the titles for the record. Uh 8 A, purchase of fire engine and associated tools and
equipment. 8B, budget amendment associated with Department of Financial Services Grant. 8C continuing contract CO23 Quebec 006 task order 9 with ACOM Incorporated for Broad Street Design
8 D Lisa Multifunctional Copers 8E Johnson Controls Building and Solutions LLC annual service agreement 8F termination release of easement of and bill of sale 8G increase annual authorized amount for utility
contractors 8H replacement of secondary internet source for police department and 8 I master services agreement with swift gov. >> Thank you very much. City manager, city clerk.
>> Yes, sir. We have two cards. Um Stan Johnston Uh I'm I'm Stan Johnston and I'm I'm complaining about the same thing I complained just a few minutes ago and that is that uh that was at the other
meeting CRA meeting is that uh 8 C is continuing contract and it's another $440,000 800. So anyhow, u this AECOM technologies is doing a broad street
streetscape project and they're going to get over $1.4 million and I just just seems really high, really high. I mean, I do kind of this kind of work on on areas and and it just
doesn't cost that much. Um, so I'm I'm I'm just thinking that the city should look into the possibility of of doing what it has done in the past, and that is doing in-house engineering because um some of these projects that's that's a
lot of money. I know it costs money to employ some people, but that just seems out of the question. That's all. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Johnson. City Clerk. >> Yes, sir. The last card is Vicky Conklin
for item 8F. >> This item represents Apollo Gardens on 2727 Demerit Drive. And it's been almost one year was March 29th when we appear before uh board of adjustment for like the third time successfully in a row.
And then you all talked about perhaps recognizing the fact that it violated the comprehensive plan because of multif family going on to local road and it's a big violation of the comprehensive plan. We discussed that. You all talked about perhaps addressing that issue. They're
not building yet. There's still time. It's really not a good idea to be doing this. I realize it's just an easement on for tonight, but it's really a serious issue because this is setting a trend here that the comprehensive plan doesn't matter and I think the comprehensive
plan matters and going to local roads for multif family developments are supposed to not happen according to our comprehensive plan. We need to obey that. >> Thank you, city clerk. Anybody else? >> No, sir. >> Member Stokel.
>> Yep. Um, I had a question for Brad. Um, if we did not terminate and release that easement, what would happen? We have a permit that has been issued for construction. The utilities and the easement there are no longer to the use
of the city. Uh, that development that was originally approved several decades ago for the utilities there that are nonfunctional are useless to the city. So I I can't see any reason why they it would be denied. Um
ex denying this. I'm not sure what the recourse would be. I think we'd probably have to go back to the applicant to see what we can do. >> Okay. >> Any further discussion about the consent agenda? >> Seeing none, city clerk call the role.
>> Oh, sorry. I made a motion. >> I'll make a motion to to approve the consent agenda. >> Second. There's a motion. There's a second. Any further discussion from this board?
>> City clerk. >> Yes, sir. Member Cole. >> Yes. >> Mayor. Oh, wow. I have a really old roll call here. Let me see what I can find. >> Believe member Stokle's next. >> She was gonna say Mayor Stokal. >> Yeah.
>> No, I have Mayor Diesel on there. Yes. Right. >> Let's try this again. Uh, member Moscoso, >> yes. >> Member Nelson, she's absent. Mayor Connors, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cole, >> yes. >> And member Stokal,
>> yes. >> Motion carries. Thank you very much. City clerk, sorry. City manager. >> Yes, sir. >> As stated earlier, uh 9A has been withdrawn by the applicant. So, move on to ordinances first reading. And we have
two pension ordinances which um our HR director will read the ordinance for the record. Mayor, council members, the uh first ordinance uh it's an ordinance of the city of Titusville amending chapter 15 pensions
and retirement article three police and firefighters. >> Sir, could you speak into the mic a bit? >> I'm sorry. >> Thank you. >> Is that better? Okay. >> All right. I'll start again. An ordinance of the city of Titusville amending chapter 15 pensions and
retirement article three police officers and firefighters pension plan of the code of ordinances of the city of Titusville amending section 15- 222 benefits effective June 30th of 2013
subsection E salary providing for a change in the types of incentive pay pursuant to to the collective bargaining agreement and amending section 15-233 deferred retirement option plan repealing all ordinances in conflict
herewith providing for severability and provisions and providing for an effective date. >> Thank you Mr. Joe member Stokal. >> Yep. So just to clarify this isn't costing the city any money. It's just allowing them to acrue more from the
investment quarterly instead of annually. Is that correct? >> So, uh your first question um the um actuary will give us a impact statement at your next meeting. >> Okay.
>> Uh I would anticipate knowing um from our discussions with the actuary and and that the cost would probably be very minimal. And the reason I say that is in terms of the
interest that is accumulated on the drop accounts for the employees. There is a cap in terms of how much interest can be capped and that's based on the actuarial assumption of the plan which is uh I
think in the 7% range. It's two basis points below that. So an employee whose account has an interest will never reach that amount. It will always be below that. Um that allows that difference
then um not to get real technical about this but allows the the um uh city to enjoy that difference and put it towards the liability. uh in so far as a floor, the employee
will never lose any money. Should the pension plan have a negative interest return, the employee will never go below zero in their account. So, if that answers your question in terms of the ceiling and the floor and the cost uh
impact will come to you at your next meeting. >> And then do you mind just sharing why we're why this change was initiated? Yeah, I in in uh my dis uh attendance at the board meetings, the actuary actually
brought this matter up to the board um and had some concerns about clarifying the way that the interest was uh accounted for in terms of the uh the
plan year. Uh for example, if a an employee would leave their job um during during a fiscal year, not have completed that fiscal year, they would not enjoy that return because the way the language
was interpreted through the actuary is that the the account can only be accumulated as of September or September 30th of that year. That makes >> so >> this now it allows that account to be
accumulated quarterly through the through the year. >> And then last question and you may not know this. Do you know um what they do for FRS? Do they allow this quarterly or is it done annually when they enter drop? >> I I do I don't I was just curious. >> I don't know. >> Thank you.
>> You're welcome. Member Stokel. I think that is a very good point as FRS is our biggest competitor in terms of pension. Um, city clerk. >> All right. City manager,
>> that was just the first the first ordinance. You do the second ordinance 10B. >> Okay. An ordinance of the city of Titusville, Florida, amending chapter 15, pensions and retirement, article 2, general employees pension plan of the code of
ordinances of the city of Titusville, amending division 5, section 15-110, deferred retirement option plan, providing for repealing all ordinances and conflict herewith, and providing for severability of provisions and providing
an effective Thank you, Mr. Joe. City clerk. >> Thank you very much. Seeing no discussion from council, city manager. >> So, moving on. There is no uh item old business under 12. We have a schools and
the urban schools in the urban village zoning district. And we have Brett Parish is going to explain um this requested to change. Well, let's just be clear. It was not a requested change. It was a Let's look
into it a little bit. It we're going to be scheduling public hearings to adopt an ordinance. This is based on uh Mr. Wright coming back in October to council requesting uh to put
in a school over at uh Searstown Mall. Um and it was not zoned properly. So now we're addressing that issue as directed by council and scheduling a public hearing. >> It the council had asked us to come back to you with research. Uh we did that in
your attachment. You'll see a little bit of research on page 255. Basically some history of approve approvals of schools in the city through a conditional use permit or other process that we may have had. The most uh recent one is the legacy academy um on public. is the one
that's most prominent because that's in a retail center similar to this property where Mr. Wright is asking for a school to be approved. We went ahead and drafted an ordinance on starts on page 251 for your review. It's not published. Basically, we're
just carrying over the conditions that are currently existing in the code and just applying them into this zoning district. So if this is approved, if you go forward with this ordinance, if it's adopted this way, the same conditions would apply to any other school apply to a school in this zoning district, urban village, which includes Mr. Jesse
Wright's property, including the two other properties that are also zoned urban village. I'll try to answer the questions you have. >> Member MCO, >> right now we only have three properties
that are zoned urban village. Um, and I believe those are on like US one. That's kind of the stipulation. Do we foresee in the future other urban village being expanded to other properties? >> I don't foresee it, but obviously that
would be the direction of city council if you'd like us to consider. >> But could somebody come in and they could request their property be zoned urban village? >> That is possible. it would require not only a land use amendment but also a I'm sorry a map amendment but also a text amendment because the way this uh land
use was designed was to focus on these three redevelopment properties >> and so there are policies in that are very specific to those properties. So to consider an additional property would require us to do an additional study or analysis.
>> Okay. Thank you. would go above and beyond a normal process. >> Nobody else from council member. >> So I I do agree with the the cup because I think with if we're thinking about a
school uh especially at the Sears Town Mall, you have to think about traffic and all that um is required. And one of the questions I did have for Brad is um when the parking was calculated for that, it was calculated I think under an
ALF and um hotel, but it wasn't uh with a school in mind and school requires more parking. And so how do we how do we do that, right? And because that's additional parking, that's that's a lot more. So I guess if a C was granted, then you guys would look at that and the
the parking requirements and things like that. >> Yeah. And the COP would allow us if it if this was going to be permitted by right, we would assume that the development is designed to accommodate the use, but because you would require some kind of public hearing process, we anticipate there could be conditions
that necessary to add to the use that we don't know about based on what they're proposing. So that's the purpose of the conditional use permit process is to allow us to look at the unique circumstances of that use within this cont. So if we put it as a per permitted use then with the cup he would still
have to come before us and we would review and we could add additional requirements. >> If it is a permitted by right use >> sorry conditional >> conditional use requires it to come before you. Yes. >> Okay. So if we did a conditional then he would still have to come before us with the cup and that's when we could put additional uh requests.
>> Correct. >> Okay. So tonight we're asking for it to be conditional. We're asking if you are okay with the draft ordinance that we have written carrying over the existing conditions for a school in in our code. So in other words, if if this is if
you're okay with this, if you agree with this, we'll draft it as written, come back to you with a published an ordinance that'll be published for you to consider and adopt. It'll include the same conditions we have in our code, but now applying it to the urban village zoning district. They'll have if it's approved then the applicant will have to
submit a conditional use permit for review. Make sure they meet all the criteria you see here and if there are any additional issues that we see the staff may recommend additional conditions depending on the circumstances. >> Sorry for repeating the question but so
we would be putting it in as permitted not as conditional. >> We're suggesting that it require conditional use permit. So on page 251 of your packet, you'll see there the letter C that to us will indicate requiring a public hearing. >> Okay. Thank you.
>> Um I'm calling you in second member Stokll. >> That's fine. >> When I think urban village, I don't think schools. >> That that's >> I think commercialization. I think business. I think US1 and Hopkins are probably not the safest place to have kids trying to go to school. uh given
the fact that we've had an uptick in private schools which and I'm not you know dismayed by that. I think that's exciting that you have different options but the challenge is a lot of these schools have come in and not uh maybe put in a school zone and I think that's
concerning when you're talking about overall uh public safety and welfare is making sure that those infrastructure components are met. Um, so you look at an urban village, I don't really think a school fits in that. So while you know
the the conversation we had in October was, okay, let's let's look into it. Let's have that discussion. I was kind of shocked to see like in whole ordinance. Don't get me wrong, kudos to you guys and your team for, you know, being on the ball, but I don't know if we were quite ready for that, me
personally, of changing uh complete, you know, the zoning uh definitions uh for that. But that's kind of where I stand. Member Stokol. >> Yep. And I think at that meeting I was not in favor of it. I expressed some concerns. Um and I just did a quick
Google search on like what's typically an urban zoning mix of residential, civic, religious, commercial, mixeduse buildings. And again to that point, schools and then I started thinking too about there's certain restrictions regarding schools of who can be within a
certain feet of a school, alcohol, like other things. And then my big thing too is um being on US one I think in a school zone and if this is not like a high school like Titusville High um and then how do I don't know I just I I feel
like I you guys know my frustration with this project. I I feel like we just keep trying to throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks rather than actually having a vision for this property and saying you know this is what makes sense for our community. This is what would benefit our community. balancing that they need to make a
profit but also providing mixeduse retail and things that we know citizens are asking for. Um and so I'm I'm really not in favor of this. I don't think it makes sense for urban village. >> Yes. And I think Hopkins in that area is
very commercial as well, you know. So you look at the slowdown of traffic if they actually do do the right things and put in the infrastructure to make it a school zone. Uh that's gonna bog down Hopkins quite a bit. And while we have inherited Titusville High because it was
built before Vice Mayor Cole was >> Thanks a lot. >> I was just >> Yeah, I know. >> Yeah. 85. So we inherited that problem. We didn't plan the problem and I think it just by doing this we're we're planning another problem down the road.
So Vice Mayor Cole. >> Yeah, I agree with everything that has been said. uh putting a school in the sstar mall doesn't seem to be an appropriate place to put a school and I agree that a urban village doesn't seem
to be a place to put a school and that is a very congested area in there. So I'm I think we pretty much all agree. >> All righty. It doesn't sound like there's support for this. So I
>> the motion should be to not schedule the public hearing. That should the motion should be >> I move that we do not go forward with scheduling the public hearings to adopt um the ordinance related to schools and the urban village zoning district. >> Second. >> I have a motion and I have a second. Um
city clerk, are there any cards on this matter? No sir. >> Thank you very much. Uh call the roll, please. Mayor Connors, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cole, >> yes. >> Member Stokel, >> yes. Member Moscoso, >> yes. >> Motion carries. Thank you very much,
city manager. >> So, next item I already mentioned is the Christian Court Town Homes, which has been withdrawn or actually rescheduled for the 29th by the applicant. Moving on is petitions and requests. >> Petitions and requests from the public,
non-aggenda items. Seeing none, moving forward, mayor and council reports. Um, something I would like to share with council and all the citizenry. I received a letter dated January 6th uh
to me uh from county manager um thanking us for accommodating their staff as they were here last week doing the save our Indian River Lagoon uh have sentent sales tax workshop. It was very
highly attended. This room was standing room only. a lot of great expert presentations from all the different organizations and citizens had an opportunity to weigh in and the county is also doing or did one of these in Palm Bay as well as they try to reach
out as that um sales tax is up for renewal. Um so they specifically wanted to give kudos to Mr. Curtis uh for working closely with Space Coast Government Television and then um city manager Tomate and his staff who
accommodated him. so graciously. So for that, thank you very much. I I thought it was a pretty good success and we got to show off Titusville a little bit. Uh the other two items I had from my report is last year I participated um with the
civilian military council in 2025. The thing's up for renewal. So I'm asking council for approval to do that. And then last year I went to Tallahassee twice. once for the Florida League of Cities and once with the chambers here in Bvard County. So that is what Bvard
days is as well if council should elect to give me permission to do that. So member Moso >> um could you like for the Florida League of Cities we have like a set agenda of what we are um we are advocating for.
What are you advocating for uh for Bvard days? Do they have like a set of things that you're going in for? >> Yes. So they have their legislative priorities. I haven't seen a list of those, but the the important thing is just being in front of the legislators again with them because getting one-on-one meetings at this time is very
difficult. So, just being up there and again, just to plug our state appropriations is my intent. >> Do they have a list? Like I went on their website because I was just curious. I don't know much about Bard Days. If you could get us just kind of what their priorities are, >> I would. >> Yes. So, I believe those are voted on by
the the chambers. I think Melbourne Regional Chambers is the one organizing it. So, all four chambers participate um and and travel up there in a in a bus and uh but I can get those once I have them. >> Thank you. >> Uh well, I need a motion if anybody's
willing to inclined to approve. Member Stokel. >> Yeah. And then just prior to that, I would like to say um I do appreciate you getting involved within the county and I I don't know if it was this was mentioned at a meeting prior that you got the chair of the TPO transportation,
which I think that you being active and engaged with throughout the county probably helped you to get the chair position with only being in office for a year. And I've heard and I know that you are advocating for our city when I talk to colleagues from other cities that are
on that committee. Um, so I just want to say thank you for representing and spending time. So I don't have an issue um with either of these. I would like to see uh the priorities just I think to make sure that um if we are funding that they do align with what we as a council are wanting to do. Um, but I can make a
motion. Um, if you guys are okay with it for both of them, request uh move to approve the amount of $525 for you to participate and renew your membership with um civilian military council membership and then $600 to
attend Bvard Days um February 3rd and 4th in Tallahassee. >> Second. >> I have a motion. I have a second. City clerk, is there any cards on this matter? >> All right. Um, any discussion from council?
Can clerk, can you call the role? >> Vice Mayor Cole? >> Yes. >> Member Stol? >> Yes. >> Member Moscoso? >> Yes. >> Mayor Connors? >> Yes. Thank you very much. That concludes my report. >> Vice Mayor Cole. >> I'm just calling on people now.
>> Yeah, I noticed that. I didn't even say I had anything. >> You report >> and I don't. Uh, member Stokal. >> Um, I'll try to be brief. Just a couple things. Um, one, I know we had talked
before about trying to bring back the idea of um, if employees come up with ideas of cost savings. Um, I heard I I forget where I was, but I mentioned the idea and somebody said that they used to work at a hospital and it was called I planted the seed and if they came up
with an idea, um, they got 1% of whatever was saved for that first year. And so I just wanted to pass that along as I know that you guys are working on that. Just an idea that I heard that a hospital had done. >> Timely that you mentioned that that yes, we just initiated an efficiency and
government plan that's being run by matter of fact Kevin is the chairman of that uh board and we have I'll give the details and I'll I'll send it out to council, but there's incentives for different items uh that show government efficiency and that's taking hold in
January. >> Okay. Thank you for that. I I like it and I'm hoping that some of our employees that have great ideas will um get passionate about that. Um and then two, I think that um there was an email just regarding the update on the
concrete facility. I wanted to see if somebody would mind sharing just briefly where we are on that. Um I know that we all had a lot of emails and concerns and it seemed like they kept repeating behavior and not correcting them. So, just if we could get a status on where we are in that process.
>> Well, the city attorney's office just sent that letter out. I'll let uh Andreine comment on that. >> Well, as indicated previously, we were uh had a meeting code and the city attorney's office and we had a plan as to how we were going to um attack the
issues at hand and what what options were available, especially from a legal perspective, of course. And so since then we have issued I want to say two notice of violation code violation of our code. So we went ahead and
identified code provisions that they were in violations of they as they normally have done uh they complied before we could take them to the special magistrate. And so that has been I believe has been the um has been what's
happened in the past where we have cided and then they have complied by cleaning up the debris that's currently existing but not remedying the uh actual problem. At this point in time, we have initiated where we're we have sent a letter to per statute, we have sent a letter
indicating that we will be taking uh legal action if it's not permanently remedied and that's the process we have implemented at this time. >> Okay. Thank you for doing that. Um and then the other one, I don't know if there was an update regarding the Brookshshire development after the
flooding that happened. Um, I know the state got involved as well if we were doing anything as a city to hold them accountable for their development standards that um were not met. >> Uh, I am not aware, but I can certainly check on it or Kevin has additional
information. >> Okay. Yeah, I I would just like to see an update on that one because I know that was a concern and I know the state was getting involved and I think it will help us as council if we see if there's a development that we approve and they don't meet the standards what does happen. It will help us make I think
better decisions up here when we do have development applications come before us. Um and then do we need to decide on a day for our retreat, our council retreat? All I have right now is just February 7th >> for the community one,
>> right? And there was no, >> you know, definite date on the second one. >> Okay. Um I guess if we're Yeah, if we're trying to do it to align with the budgeting, I'm assuming that you probably want us to pick a date either later in February or early March. >> Um March. >> March. Okay.
>> You usually have 30 days between the first session and second to get the report. >> Okay. But again, also one of the things wasn't clear was the format that you wanted for the second session. I know we wanted to do something a little bit different this year.
>> Okay. Um and I did send an an email I think um with who I had my my colleague from down south um where they do a two-day one. He had sent me the agenda and I think I forwarded it to you. Um, I'm thinking maybe just we start with one day and kind of see how that goes
and then so maybe we can just follow up and then we as council next meeting maybe look at our agendas and we can pick a date at our next meeting. Okay. Okay. And then my last point I wanted to make was um in terms of the Doge efforts um and like what's happening there and
then also with what we are asking of council. I do want to be um cognizant of we are expressing concerns for hey we want to maintain our ditches. We need to make sure this is happening. We need to properly fund our public safety. Um and
then at the same time we're also telling you you need to cut and doge. So I do want to make that very clear. um that it that's very difficult to do. Um and so that is not missed on me. Um and I think for me look looking forward and I have
said this in other council meetings really focusing on those core essential government um responsibilities that we have which is not always popular when there's things that we want to fund but for me from my and I'm again one of five votes I really would like to see us
focus on those core essential services um which maybe we're not funding some of these things that are really great and fun and good but I really just want to make sure nobody gets flooded in their home that we're maintaining in our roads um when people are driving their cars
not damaged um that when people need to call 911 that they get an officer there within um minutes like those are things that I really want to focus on. So when we were talking about you know we want to keep taxes low and we don't want to charge and we want to be good stewards especially with what's happening at the
state but also making sure that you know these flooding events and what we're doing there how do we balance that? Um, and maybe that's also looking at development standards and where are and I know we've talked about that too. Where are wetlands and conservation areas that we may need to protect. So,
um, and I I know that's hard and I want to I want to make that very clear um that that's not lost. And that's um all I have. >> Thank you, member Stokl. Uh my recommendation on scheduling that meeting is um because Jolyn's not here so we can't just pick a date is if
Christine could get with us individually and find that date and then they can properly notice and advertise and work with the city attorney's office to get that done. Does that sound good? Sound good? >> Everybody says yes. It sounds good. All right. >> Sounds good. >> Member Moscoso.
>> Sure. Thank you. I was just going to request that when we do um go on these trips, when we come back, I think a best practice would be to um kind of write up who we met with, what we spoke about, um things like that because I think this is taxpayer dollars and so we want to make sure that we are um doing our due
diligence. I know I had I'd spoken with a council member from Orman Beach and he was like taking notes and he goes back each time he goes on a trip and he kind of gives a report and I think that would be really helpful um for people to know what we're actually doing up there. And I know that we've we've stated kind of
the legislative priorities, but um I think I think it's just a good act of transparency. Um and then second, I want to just I know Christmas has passed, but I was speaking with an employee today and I said, "How was your Christmas?" And he said, "Well, I worked on Christmas." So, I just wanted to thank all of our first responders and all of
our employees that were keeping our city going um on these holidays. And then also um there's a birthday coming up this week. So, we want to wish uh Mr. Herman Cole and his wonderful wife Joyce a happy birthday. I won't sing, but >> 21.
>> Yeah. >> 90 plus 21. >> 90 plus 69. >> No, that's seriously. >> Yeah, the two birthdays together. 159, right? >> All right. Um, that concludes our report. City manager,
>> I have several items that are justformational only. The first obviously is the uh January 22nd we're holding a storm water management workshop. Obviously I've heard loud and clear from city council that you want it focused on citizens to allow them to
express their concerns to staff and for us to come up with um remedies. So, we will restructure what we had planned um to focus more on hearing from citizens and prioritizing those areas that need our attention and ensuring that we have
budget resources directed toward it. So, I we'll we'll go ahead and do that. Uh second item is uh there's a short survey for the urban forest vision statement that uh was at as a result of the November 10th um workshop. They came up
with three the residents that attended came up with three different versions of a of a vision statement and there's an online survey to determine which of those three most fits what citizens want as an urban forest vision. Also wanted
to put in a two more plugs actually several more. One is uh February 7th, our strategic planning community conversation. It will be facilitated by um uh Kristen Baky who is as you know retiring after 25 years at Lee Bvard as
CEO and um we're going to try to get a a good diverse uh gathering of citizens to give us input as we start planning the FY27 budget. Also, we're having our first community engagement conference, which community development is putting
together March 7th. I think that's going to be really exciting. I know Lily Glo and Eddie Glendo and and and the uh all our young planners have been really putting their heart into it and it's going to be a great and we have just everyone on staff is pitching in to make
it a good event. So, I'm encouraging um we can take up to a hundred people at the different sessions. So, and of course, uh we'll be starting our efforts at uh coordinating a July 4th parade in conjunction with the red, white, and boom. And now that the holidays are
over, I've turned staff loose and they're going to start coordinating that and hopefully get some of the civic organizations to help us on a July 4th um parade and a lot of things going on. >> Absolutely. Member Moscow, >> is there a cost to that parade like to
cut down? I'm going to assume it's on US1. Do we have to pay to shut down US? >> We have We haven't even really started. >> Okay. >> Um planning. We're going to be doing that shortly. >> So, as Mr. Cook explained to me, there is no cost to pull the FDA permit. The
only cost is really in manpower to redirect traffic. Uh but if you remember from our budget conversations, this is where the sale got started was making sure that there was some money allotted to to do this for the 250th anniversary of our country.
Member Stokl. >> Um, yes. I was just checking. Do we have a flyer for the February 7th um event or if we don't, can we get one? >> It's on the website. >> It is. That's what I was wondering. Okay. >> And we're actually sending it out to all different civic organizations. >> Okay. Perfect. I wanted to post about >> sign up blast to get as many people as
possible. >> Perfect. Thank you. >> Thank you very much, city attorney. >> Nothing. Thank you. >> Um, I just want to give kudos to Mr. David in your your office. I mean, I don't know if that was the first letter
he wrote, but writing a letter to the attorney general, I mean, like the second week on the job. >> Yeah, exactly. That's awesome. Well, thank you very much. Uh, seeing no other business to attend, can I have a motion to adjurnn? >> Move to adjourn.
>> We're journ. Thank you very much.