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immediate removal of any person from the chambers who possesses a threat to property or life safety. Nothing in this section shall be construed to limit or restrict a person's right created by the constitution, law, ordinance, or regulation. Good evening everybody. I'm going to
call this meeting of the community city of Titusville Community Redevelopment Agency to order. It is January 13, 2026 at 5:30. City Attorney, do we have a quorum? >> Yes. >> Thank you, city attorney. And for the invocation, we'll have a moment of
silence, please. Thank you very much. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all. >> Thank you very much. Before I turn it over to the executive director, um, has the board had an opportunity to review the minutes from last meeting? All right, seeing no discussion, anybody want to make a motion to approve the minutes? Move
>> to approve. >> All right, thank you. Vice Chairman, please push your microphone button next time. I have a motion from Vice Chairman Cole. Member Mscoso. >> Second. >> I have a second from member Mscoso. Any discussion? All those in favor say I. >> I.
>> Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Thank you very much, Mr. Executive Director. >> Good evening, Mr. Chairman, vice chairman, and members of the board. We have a relatively light agenda this evening. We have one item under old business uh item 7A and that is the
Broad Street streetscape design scope of services and the recommended action is to recommend to city council to approve the continuing consulting contract CO23 Q006
task order 9 with ACOM in the amount of $440,825 to provide consulting and design services for the Broad streets streetscape project and authorize city manager to execute the task order and approve the associated budget amendment at the reg ne at the next regular city
council meeting. And we have our CRA development planner Sue Williams is here to answer any questions. >> Good evening. I'm here to answer any questions I can. I might be relying on Kevin Cook if there's a lot of the technical ones that I'm not not familiar
with. But if is there any way I can help you with this? This is a design only for the Broad Street. Um, as you see, there's a couple different as aspects to it. The project administration, the site data collection and analysis, the
concept design and visioning. There's stakeholder and CRA engagement and design development at 30% 60% of the final plans. Um, and the schedule and bud the schedule and budget. The anticipated design schedule totals approximately 38 weeks excluding city
review periods. The total lumpsum cost for the base scope of services is 440,825 with fees allocated by task and milestone. There is an optional wayfinding and signage design task that was available for 25,130
if authorized by the CR and the city that has not been calculated into this. There is 280,000 280 505,000 in the Broad Street parking account. Staff is recommending a budget adjustment of the 65,847
that's left remaining been in the space view pier account and 94,463 from the CRA restricted fund balance account. And I'm here to answer any questions. >> Member Stokl. >> Yes. Thank you. So a couple questions.
One, just to clarify, we have already approved this project. This is just one of the steps that you're bringing before us. >> That is correct. They'll there'll be other steps too, but this is the first one. >> Okay. And then uh two more questions. One, are you looking for anything specific from us to say actually we
don't like this idea or anything? Or it's more of a whole package approving this what they're doing. >> It's more of a whole package, but we do want to bring it before you to see it and and be able to review it. >> And then this one might be more of a procedures question. What is, and this
is not only related to this item, but I've been thinking about this. Um, what is our procedures if for some reason they come back and say, "Actually, this is taking more money than we had anticipated. We need more money. What do we have? What policy do we have in place to account for that?
>> I'm going to hand that over to Kevin Cook because it's a a contract." >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> So, if they were to request a change order, depending on the value, it would come back before this board. If it falls within the city manager's authorized ability and it's budgeted, we would do that administratively up to the 25,000
point. >> Okay. And I guess my question is coming from more like with other projects potentially. Do we have any uh safeguards in place? Say a somebody comes in to bid the project, they under bid it to get it and then they say actually we need this this to get the
project. Do we have any safeguards in place to make sure that doesn't happen? Well, this particular contract is was bid under the CCNA procedures which are different than regular competitive and I Kevin has is a real expert on it. I
think he can give you a better um idea of how it's structured and what the procedure is in case the the bids come in higher. >> Okay. >> Is concerned with this one or potential construction? >> Potential construction. >> Okay. So, so safeguard construction
would be they bid on a a line item basis. So asphalt, base, sidewalks, every bit individually priced. You can look at that at all the vendors. So you would see the anomaly where someone came in at $1 versus the $100 anomaly. Or if
someone deliberately overloaded one pay item, one line item in it, it would likely throw the total off to where they wouldn't be awarded. But you can check that person goes through a process verifying if there's any anomalies where someone zeroed out an item or made a deliberately low bid on one piece. You
would you it would be pretty clear that they were trying to lowball to get below everyone else. >> Usually you you review harder the ones that come in substantially lower than the five or 10 other people. >> So that's how you could control if a vendor is you pricing his way to a change order future. And then in
construction when we bid it by a unit price for asphalt or sidewalks trees, they're literally getting paid to put the tree in. So they don't put in three trees, they get paid for three trees. So it's very hard at that point to manufacture a change order because if no condition changed on the site, they don't get a change order. Usually change order generated when the city says,
"Hey, I need extra work over here. Give me a change order for more sidewalk on the side street," not necessarily on the base bid. >> Yeah. And I guess I just I'm still a little bit confused as to, okay, they bid it and they said it and things come in more. Why do they just not eat that
cost? Because they said that that's what they were proposing for us and that's the contract we signed. >> They would if it's if no condition changed on the site, they're liable for the cost. >> Okay. >> But if they say digging, they're putting a pipe in, they find something that wasn't located by the engineer. >> Okay? >> Then that's a condition where they can
come back and say, "Hey, this was not foreseen when we bid. Let's negotiate how much I'm getting paid for this." Normally we collect time and material rates from them for that purpose. So hey there's a conflict either we take care of it or they do we negotiate that price and we come back with a change order. But if the conditions on this ground never change they don't get a you know
they don't get a change order. >> Okay. Thank you. That's all I had to >> thank you member Stokal. Member Mscosa. >> Yeah I I had a similar question to that to member Stokal. Um, and Kevin did a great job of explaining
I'm going to ask him to go into a little bit of depth explaining the CCNA because my question was when we're doing the engineering, how did we choose ACOM versus Kemley Horn? Um, and and so I'm going to ask Kevin to explain that because I have a little bit of um
sticker shock with this price just for engineering. It's a lot of money. And then um I'm not sure what was the the total cost could be around 12 million. Is that correct? No, >> believe it was more like 2.7 million. >> All right. I'm awful lot. Okay. Well, that's great. I just saved us $10
million. So, but if you could just explain what the CCN and NA is, um, that was really comforting for me to understand how that process works. >> Okay. So, the city, we procure continuing consultant services through the CCNA process. We issue an RFP and a
broad scope for, in this case, roadways, landscaping, utilities, and we have vendors come back and say, "Here's our qualifications. Here's our resumes for all of our staffs. Uh, here's our financials. They show us your overhead." We the city normally caps their overhead
like the DOT does and a committee evaluates the I think this was probably 15 vendors at a time and we score them based on all their qualifications and ability to handle more work, ability to comply with schedules and cost. And at the end of that period we selected five
total vendors, two of which were specific to public works and three additional added for the water resource utility side. But five total consultants came out of that process as the selected vendors. Then we negotiate with them their hourly rates for every classification in their company. So
every engineer, every scientist, every piece and part, we negotiate their overhead multiplier and their hourly rate to set what they can bill us for the next 5year period. Um once they're awarded, then we we evaluate. So if a specialty project comes up, I'll use
example the ASR system for the utility. We may evaluate the vendors, see who can do it. Some vendors won't touch that, some will. So that allows us to pick from that pool who will then be asked to give us a work order. So in this case being roadway, they're really two main ones that will do roadway work. AOM and
Kimley Horn. Kimley Horn has a higher volume of work. So ACOM was going to pick up the next one for our area. They've done really good work on the they're doing Hopkins right now for sidewalks. They did our fuel tanks at the fleet facility, a lot of utility work. So once they were picked to do it,
they will go through at that point and we give them a scope and they evaluate that scope and provide us the pricing based on the scope the city provided them. Um in some cases they are using subs. They'll use a sub for surveying because no company has their own surveying staff any longer. And that's about $100,000 going to surveying right
now. But that's kind of how it it works. Up to $7.5 million of construction costs, you can issue a CCNA approved con consultant services work order. It would have taken an additional, you know, three to four months had we issued a specific design uh package for this to
go out to RFP and we would have landed potentially with the same vendors again, probably different rates because the contracts aged a couple years. So, they probably come in at higher rates, but uh I think you would have got the same vendors back and in some cases in the past we get no responses. We actually have to go to our continuing services and ask them to respond anyway. So,
>> thank you very much, >> Vice Chairman. >> I just wanted to maybe piggyback on some things that Kevin said, just to kind of allay some of your fears. In a design situation, the only change orders that
should come about would be user change orders. Normally, a design would just flow because they have to do the design. In a construction project, the change orders could be, as Kevin said, for varying site conditions. It could be something that we want. But if it's a
change order that is included in the contract, once we review it, we recognize that this is something they should be doing anywhere. So, there's there's very strict control over change orders. Change orders in construction projects are a little bit different than
change orders in design projects because you don't really have that many. I had a situation uh years ago when we were replicating what was being done at Kennedy Space Center at Vandenberg and it was a design
error and we went back on the the A&E architectural engineering firm for $25 million because of the error that they made in the design. So, like I said, the design is one thing where you wouldn't have a lot of change orders, but in
construction, you could because it could be varying site conditions. But if it's a if it's a problem of something that was designed and it was designed wrong, then you can go back on the architect to come back with something like that.
>> Thank you, vice chairman. Thank you, board members. And at the end of the day, they're designing what we're asking them to design. So, you know, unless we change our minds, it should roughly stay the same price. But, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the 2.5 million that was initially approved
approximately for this project. This is a part of that cost. >> Correct. That was based on the 2022 study that was done. Yes. At that point, it was 2.5 million and that was what was approved. >> And I I believe for my conversation with
uh Mr. parish that once this kind of moves forward and we look into different financing options for the CRA to help do this then this cost would be kind of bundled into that. Am I correct? >> That is correct. >> Okay. So hopefully that'll alleviate
some concerns. Um but at the end of the day it's it's a big swing for our downtown community and that was kind of our discussion that we had up here last time this came before us. So, um, with that being said, is there a motion? City clerk. Oh,
>> city clerk. >> There's one card. Stan Johnston. >> My name is Stan Johnston. I'm a professional engineer. I'm looking at page 25 and it shows the task order for professional engineering. It says total
amount of task award prior to this task order over a million dollars. Uh total amount awarded including this task order $440,000. So it's 1.457 million.
It looks like to me it's a it's not a very difficult task to do. This is straightforward stuff. It's uh it's not complicated except maybe an EV station. Is that what we're going to have an EV station there also? Electrical charge station. That's what
it mentions in there. Are we having an EV station? Does anybody know? Nobody knows whether we're having it. Mentions it in here in in the >> Johnson. Just keep keep going. I'll ask >> Oh, just keep on talking about it and nobody knows. I think that there is an EV station. Sue, could you speak to
that? >> What what this allows us to do is to research it. So, we've been researching for the the two at the welcome center and no one is interested in that because it's not a bank. >> Well, okay, here's what's going on is is that I see that 1.45 million and I I see
that myself as it looks like to me, this is simple. This is really not complicated stuff to do. So, somebody's making a lot of money from the engineering. And uh we've we've already for Broad Street, we've already considered $6 million for the parking
station years ago, and it was on the agenda for at least I think at least six years. So, uh Kimley Horn took took a lot of money from us for that and all the kinds of studies they did for traffic studies. So, I I think that
we're wasting a lot of money and we could do it. We could hire people and do it in house. It's I can't imagine it being very difficult to do. That's all. So, u good luck because here's what I was
talking about. I was talking about someone who's who's in government with NASA and so forth. If you let engineers get a hold of it, it costs it you triple or quadruple the cost. So, uh, that's one of the, um, Martin
Maretta people who works with NASA and they just see government spending has gone crazy. You give the government the money to do it, it's going to cost a lot. So, I think you need to start saving some money. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Johnson. And I apologize that folks interrupted your time. I'm
conscious about it. Thank you. >> All right. >> You got eight. >> I know, right? All right. So, can I have a motion, please? >> Yeah. Uh, I recommend to that we approve the continuing consulting contract task
order 9 for techn in the amount of $440,825,000 for consulting and design services for the broad street streetcape project and authorize the city manager to execute the task order and approve the associated budget
amendment at our next regular city council meeting. There's a motion. >> Second. >> There's a motion and a second. Any further discussion from the board? City clerk, can you call the role? >> Member Akre? >> Yes. >> Member Mscoso? >> Yes.
>> Chairman Connors? >> Yes. >> Vice Chair Cole? >> Yes. >> Member Mutter? >> Yes. >> Member Stokel? >> Yes. >> Motion carries. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Miss Sue, executive director. >> Sir, we have uh no new business. Next is petitions and requests.
>> Mr. Johnson. >> Yes, that's me. >> Stan Stan Johnson. You're probably not going to be happy with what I have to say, but uh there's an article in the newspaper. It's uh the title of the article is Bvard targets chemicals and
water. It's POS and all kinds of that stuff. The date of the uh newspaper article is January the 12th. That's Monday. That's not very long ago. And it it talks about the limits of uh EPA requires you to have only four parts per
million. Four parts per million. That 176 parts per million. That's what our water was tested at and exclaimed in the uh Guardian. We beat MEMS with his 176. We are four
divided into 176 is 44 times. We are 44 times the maximum limit allowed. Stella Bailey should be here. She should be. I can't understand what's going on. I think what what this city has done, Mr.
Mr. Kevin Cook can probably correct me. It seems that we're not using any of our wells except the Farmington wells and water from city of Cocoa. I believe that's what we've done to solve that problem. So all of our other wells are not being used. I believe that's correct
from what Mr. Balt said. I don't know Kevin, you might been listening to what we're saying. Pardon? >> Yeah. So anyhow, 176 parts per million is a big deal because they're saying this stuff is hot stuff. So, uh, when it was brought up
years ago when I had this, uh, poster produced of 176 is the city decided they weren't going to test their POS. So, I don't know whether we did, but if we did, I think it was the council never
supported testing of this POS at 176. And now our government says four parts per trillion is the maximum. So we are at at that time we were at a level from that test of 44 times what's
acceptable which you call that's that's not 100% that's 4,400% over the limit. I think you guys should think about what's going on and listen to what some people are saying, including some
experts like St. Bailey, then you're not doing it. Even the Guardian newspaper, this is this is a problem. Not a little problem, a big problem. Same thing with drainage, too. These
dams are are not legal. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Johnson. Even though we're not in a regular city council meeting, Mr. Cook, what is the um EPA standard?
>> So for PFOA and PFOS, the final MCL is four parts per trillion. >> Four parts per trillion. And what are we measuring at? >> 2.2 and 2.4 as of our last quarterly testing, which was September of this year of 2025.
>> Thank you. All right. Uh, executive director. Oh, I'm so sorry. I apologize. >> I got inundated with thinking about PAS. >> I'm not least moer Titusville. Um, just
wanted to say thank you to the CRA and the city for having theformational meeting yesterday for the U Main Street. It actually I thought went pretty good with there was a lot of of folks there probably I don't know how many did we have 40
>> it was over 40 >> 40 so and there's a so we hope to organize ourselves and then come back and maybe get a liaison from the city or the CRA or Sue or something like that. So we hope to kind of move things
forward and help bring some life back into downtown. So, I just want to say thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> Shuffalo, the historic Norwood House. I saw in the mayor's the city manager, excuse me, the city manager's report for
this meeting that um he's reporting that the city uh community development director, I suppose that's Brad, NASA, SpaceX, Kennedy Space Center uh regarding structural monitoring of historic structures in the CRA. I would like to suggest that your historic
preservation board be on board with that monitoring uh of the historic structures. I believe Roz Foster was initially involved. I haven't heard anything else about it. I'd like for that to be official. I'd like to say that Scubby Park was
paved with pvious pavement. I ride my bicycle down there to watch the launches when they bring the booster back because I can see them perfectly fine from my yard, but I can't see it brought back. So, I really appreciate that. But I'd like to suggest that the city keep the
mangroves trimmed so that uh dissatisfied civilians, not me of course, would you know come and rip them out or cut them down. So I think if we're proactive and keep them in hand so we can see the launches and I realize
it's like a juggling show. Once the launch gets started, once the juggling show does, everything's up in the air anyway. But still, it's really nice to see that smoke over there on the across the river, you know, coming from the um exhaust as the rocket's getting ready to
go. And the third thing I wanted to speak about is the um historic preservation board is working on a new program to recognize mid-century modern architecture and the space industry comes to Titusville. I suggested it. I think it's a great project. I'm not real fond of
mid-century modern myself. if I'm into the more historic older places, but there's a really rich stock of mid-century modern and especially since the space industry came to um Brevard County and Titusville in
the 50s and 60s. And I'm very enthused now. I'm working with the space museum about collecting stories. Not so much about famous people who worked at the space center and what they did, but what they did when they came home to Titusville and if they lived in a
mid-century modern house. Oh, that's my gold nugget. Um, I'm looking for someone like that. I may have it. And then I want to speak about the Main Street meeting. It was very informational but not very inspirational.
It was very factfilled. I'm very familiar with the Main Street program myself, having worked both as an entertainer and as a participant, a civilian citizen in towns that have Main Street and as a pusher of the Main Street program for the city of
Titusville. Um, parking, you're going to find that people are going to say parking, we don't want to have it because parking is a problem downtown. parking problem is a perception, not a reality. And Sue has >> lots of information to dissuade that
opinion. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Um, and before we go to the executive director's report, I was at the Main Streetformational meeting and I I think the challenge with that because I I understand Tony, you've done a lot of research as Sue has and
several people in the room had, but a lot of people didn't even know what it was. >> Yeah. >> Right. Okay. So, you got to kind of start from the the building blocks, right? And letting people know what it looks like, the time commitment, and uh getting folks on on board for for Main Street because, you know, Coco has one,
Melbourne has one, or Orlando has 15 of them. You know, about bringing that um prosperity back to our downtown. Uh so, young families have things to do on the weekends. We can celebrate our history and all the great things that come with it. So, um, we're working towards it and
I'm excited because there's been a lot of interest and even since that meeting, I think a lot of people said, "Yep, I'm on board. I'm willing to roll up my sleeves and get to work and help make my community better." And I appreciate you being one of them. >> May I just say one other thing? Um, I
I'm very happy to hear that because she didn't go into all the really fun things that can happen with the Main Street program. So if people are excited just from all the information they got, imagine what they'll do when they know what the full program is. >> Yes. Yeah. She needed to be the one in
kind of explaining the process. You know, we're the ones, you know, selling it to the community and getting them excited. So, executive director. >> Yes, sir. The executive director's report just has a list of tasks that uh staff is working on. and past two
speakers, the mayor already alluded to the fact that the main street workshop was yesterday and it was very wellreceived. Looking forward to getting that program off the ground and also uh Sue handed out the monthly visitors report for the welcome center
and that's all. Member Mscoso. >> Sure. Could you um explain a little bit and and Tony touched on it number eight, you're collaborating with community development director NASA, SpaceX, Kennedy Center um regarding structural monitoring. What is that looking like
and what have those conversations been? >> We have been on um phone calls with all of those entities to be sure that Tit Titusville is front and center. We have a lot of historic historical buildings and so we wanted to be sure that we were
on that list to have some of our buildings monitored. One of them I know is St. Gabriel's. What are the There's one more. Yes. >> Bridget House. >> Oh, Pritchard House. Um, so we wanted to be sure we were on those calls. Those were with all the cities and Titusville was always up front and first because
we're the closest. So when those super heavies go, you know, go off, what they're going to do is monitor those two structures and at for a baseline and then once we have some of the super heavies go up, they'll be monitored and we'll get those results. So we have a seat at that table.
>> And do you know how they chose those two structures? >> We were the ones that requested those two. >> Okay. >> Each city got a certain amount and we were allotted two. We had four and then it got went down to two. Okay. Um but we those were the two that we wanted on the on the list.
>> Okay. Thank you. And this is an excellent report. Um very I I really appreciate it. I have one more question about um number three and this is the handprint monuments at Space View Park. Um could you give us an update on that?
And then I would love if we could get perhaps like a social media post or some information out for people. I know I walked through it recently for the star party with my kids and you know they were they were asking me about it and um and and I really I didn't remember what was happening there. So maybe we can get
more information out to people because it's such a historic part of our community and just letting people know it's coming back and it's going to be better. But if you give us more information, I'd appreciate it. >> Absolutely. The as you remember the handprints that were on top of the posts that line the the sidewalk, those were
crumbling. So the the real challenge for us was we were going to lose those valuable handprints of the astronauts. So there is a a contractor Pamco I think the name is and they have since been removed. They are with that contractor
and they're being um I don't know what his term is for it but made to where they are going to go on the large granite uh monuments at closer to the water. that's where they will be placed so people can walk up and put their hands in their hands along with what
that that is going on now. Um you approved for 10 solar lights down that walkway because the lights used to be on the post. Those solar lights have been um in production. We just got an update on the shipment. They should be shipped at the end of this month. So then we can
start work on that. Um so it's going to take some time. in my note because there's a lot of moving pieces and then the final piece would be the landscaping because you've approved that and the irrigation so that the CRA will fund monthly. >> Thank you. And then I at the star party and I I I got an email. I'm not sure if
you guys did um there's a man who um he talks a lot about light pollution and I'm not sure if that's something that we've looked into in the CRA or um what that even looks like, but is that something we've like considered with especially that area?
That's the dark sky initiative and um there's been some conversation on it, but that's never been anything that the CRA has picked up on >> um to to move forward with a dark sky. There's a lot of different levels to it. But >> do you know of any communities around
here do the dark sky initiative? >> Groveland is the only city in uh Florida that has certified as a dark sky city. >> Okay, great. I mean there's like nothing there and Groveland's just a bunch of fields.
I'm sorry that sounds like a slam dunk for them. Member Akre um concerning Starship and the effects that it may have on buildings. I I I think I've alluded in or told you in the past even
the shuttle has cracked some of the windows in downtown. to have a mechanism in place and someone to communicate with if we do get damage as a result of those of the of the launches or the return, which is more of a concern, the sonic boom on the return. Um, do we have a
mechanism in place so that the building owners aren't bearing the cost of, you know,5 $10,000 worth of broken glass? The agreement that we have with NASA and FAA is strictly about historic preservation and it's strictly right now
the two structures I thought there was a third one I was looking it up but are going to be monitored and so based on the results of what's of each of those launches they'll look at that and the landings will look at the results of the monitoring equipment that'll be on those buildings in addition to other buildings
around our region they'll determine well what get together and as a consulting party and all of us will consult as to whether this is good data. Should we look at other structures? Should the monitoring equipment be relocated? Should it be expanded? Or maybe there's no impact at all and then it should be
narrowed. And that's the key of the agreement that we have with FAA and NASA. There is we can share the agreement with you. there is really um little recourse to be honest about how um
if there's damage found. Um so basically the agreement is basically just to figure out whether there's any issue and to monitor and to come up with recommendations. So there's no me mechanism. Say they do a launch, windows break. There's really no mechanism in
place to who to talk to or who to negotiate with because I've got still probably four buildings with turn of the century glass is not tempered that when it goes if it if it's a bigger than the shuttle bang, you know, we're going to get some cracks and we're los mechanism that would help
with that. >> No mechanism for that. >> I'm not aware. So, do we have a contact person that if a building owner can take it upon themselves, maybe we could look into getting a contact person so that, you know, I don't I don't think it'd be fair for the building owners to absorb,
you know, thousands of dollars just for something that not their fault. >> Right. No, I I understand that's why they just um they're doing this. We are we were involved because we're a certified local government. So because of the statute for the federal section
106 process, we were able to be a party to this. If we weren't a certified log government, we wouldn't have any involvement in this at all. And so the extent of the involvement is our ability to have input on the monitoring and the impact. But as far as I know, there is
not a specific mechanism that I'm aware of. Okay. >> To address the question you have. >> Figure it out when it comes. >> MCOS. >> Sorry. Thank you. Um, would you keep us up to up to date if there's anything that changes or any any new information on that because I know that that's
probably going to be a question that we get once this starts. Um, and yeah, and I'd love to be able to have a response to people then I'm sorry, you know, at least like he he Miss Dr. Akre was stating um, like if there could be a point of contact that we could point
people to if we if there are potential issues. >> Of course. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Anything else for the good of the order? I'll entertain a motion to adjurnn. >> Move to adjourn. >> We're adjourned. Thank you very much.