Good evening everybody. I'm going to call the City of Titusville Community Redevelopment Agency regular meeting July 8th, 2025 at 5:30 to order. I believe we do have a quorum. Yep. Uh can you please uh take a moment of
silence for the invocation? Thank you very much. Can you please stand for the pledge? to the stands one nation indivisibley andice for all. Thank you very much, city clerk.
Individuals wishing to speak on agenda items must complete a signup card prior to the item being introduced. Signup cards are available on the table. Individuals wishing to speak on non-aggenda items may do so under petitions and request. No signup card is required. Citizens will be given three
minutes to speak on all agenda items. All signup cards and exhibits being submitted to the CRA shall be placed in the box on the table. Thank you, city clerk. Member Nelson. Move to approve the minutes of the regular CRA meeting on June 10th, 2025.
Second. I have a motion. I have a second. Any discussion from the board? Seeing none, all those in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Thank you very much. Executive Director. Good evening, Mr. Chairman and Vice
Chairman. We have a very light agenda this evening. We only have one item. We have nothing under special recognitions and presentations. And we just have one item under old business, and that is a Space View Park Gemini handprint monuments renovations. And uh Sue Williams, our CRA planner, is
here to introduce that item and answer any questions you may have on the proposed expenditures. Thank you. Good evening. When we were first tasked with this, it was to um the two two main goals were the monument handprints and proper lighting and then
if money was available for landscaping and irrigation. So we we put gave you two options. Want to explain the reasoning behind option number one on the space view pier the actual new walkway pier those those solar lights which is what we're looking at here are
24 feet apart. Okay. If we used eight um the eight number, which means there'd only be four down the walkway, they would be 40 feet apart. Uh so at 12, they were 26 feet apart. So
that's safety is the reason that three um department, code enforcement, public works, and CRA is recommending option one. And I'm here to answer any questions. Thank you. Uh, member Stokal. Yes. Just to clarify, um, from my
briefing, it was my understanding that if we go with option one, we'd have the more lights and then we would just kind of delay the landscaping and other improvements. It's not like we're not doing either. It's do we want to do lights first or do we want to do landscaping first? That is correct. And we have it budgeted
for the next fiscal year so we can do that. And it's much easier to go in and put plants than rearrange the lights. Yeah. And then that was my thing. I'm fine with option one, especially since it's safety and we will still get our other improvements just a little bit later.
Thank you, Member Stoke. Member Nelson. So, so um at the top of page nine, it says landscape and irrigation responsibilities remain with parks and wreck. So, explain please. Well, this was at
the requ the the irrigation and the um plants were at the request of the county. Okay. To us. So, does that mean we're paying for it? So, it's not really their responsibility. That would mean we're paying for it.
Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Member Nelson. Member Mscoso. Sure. Um, thank you so much for bringing this up. I think this is really important and something a lot of the residents wanted to see. And um so I actually put this out on my Facebook and
I don't know if you saw it, but I maybe had 10 responses and they were all for option two. So I just wanted to put that out. Um I remember the last time it was over in that park or um was when we did the code enforcement and we did the stars. Um and so that was part of the
stops. Um, and one of the things too for me, I I personally like option two as well because I think landscaping is important. If I go into an area and it looks rund down, I'm going to think it's not safe and probably turn around. I don't know if I'm going to walk to the place where the lights are. So, I prefer
um option two just because I think um it's just curb appeal and I know don't we already have c like flop cameras and stuff down there as well? Yes, we do. Okay. So for me, if we could, I lean more towards option two.
Thank you, membercoso. Anybody else from the board? Member Achre. It doesn't mean we're not going to be doing the landscaping though when it's all said and done. Correct. Absolutely correct. Okay. It's just we're doing it kind of
in in in phases or in stages. And to clarify, the county's job is maintenance once it's up and running. So they're they're cleaning it. They're cutting the grass and stuff like that from a maintenance standpoint. They typically don't go in
and replace structures like at um Sanpoint Park. They wouldn't go in and replace structures. That would be on us. That is correct. Okay. Thank you, member. member ball. I I I would have to say I agree with the
staff's analysis that the lighting is probably at this point taking a higher priority than the landscaping because the landscaping, you know, will get done. And um I I would think that additional lighting is more important since we have a a limited amount of
budget that's available for the project that got transferred over. Um that these solar lights are are they going to be under the tree canopies at all? We were looking at that when we did the walkthrough several times and because
the walkway is in the center. They're not underneath the trees. Yeah. Okay. So, for that reason, I I agree on land how important landscaping is, but I'm going to have to favor option one. Thank you, member ball. Member MCOS. Um
Sue, right now is Bvard County, are they the ones maintaining the park? That is correct. And so um how are we keeping them kind of accountable for that park and how will we continue when we add these improvements to make sure that we don't
add it and then it just stays the same way? Well, we have a really good working relationship with uh the parks director and obviously when we hear um that their maintenancees is not what we want it to
be, you know, we usually can get them to apply additional um manpower to it. So um now I we have interlocal agreement and it does require them to maintain that park.
And what happens if like there are some parks I feel like are really wellmaintained and they do a fantastic job and every time I do contact um Jeff Davis, he's out there the next day or the day of. So, he's doing a fantastic job. I just feel like uh this park in particular, it would be great if if we
were on top of um just the regular maintenance of it. Thank you. Member Nelson. I think part of the problem with this part was you had three entities involved in it. You had um the space
museum who were supposed to be uh taking care of the handprints. You had parks and wreck and you had us. So I understand what Mr. Abate is saying. Um our option
would be we talk to the county manager if there's a problem with the maintenance. If that doesn't work and we're not happy, we pull out of the agreement. So, thank you, River Nelson. Yes. And to
that point, um we basically pay the county quite a bit of money with their MSTU dollars to maintain our parks. So, you know, that's constantly under evaluation if we're not feel like we're getting the service uh that that is expected. But, you know, normally if there's an issue, they're they're pretty
good at resolving it. Um, it's just really good to see this project come to fruition. Feel like we've been working on it for a while now. And, uh, hopefully we find a a really good way where everybody's happy. And, uh, also to member Nelson's point, um, I had a blank contract dropped off to me that
wasn't executed by a mayor that said all these things, you know, about who's responsible for what, but, it wasn't executed. So, I did a deep dive on this part back into the minutes back in the 90s to figure out what was the legislative intent of council at that time. And so, I feel like either plan
that we pick is going to be a really good opportunity for us to just okay, whatever happened in the past happened in the past. It's time to move forward. Let's upgrade our park. Let's make it nice. Let's take pride in in our city. So, u I'm excited either way. But if there's no other discussion, I'll uh tee
up a motion or I'll ask for somebody to make a motion. Oh, city clerk, is there any cards? Yeah, there's two cards. Uh, the first one's Lisa Moer. Hi, Lisa Moer, 525 Indian River Avenue. I actually like option two. I understand
about the safety thing, but my fear is you put the lights in, you fix the monuments, the landscaping that's going to go on next year budget budget comes up and that gets um lined out for some reason. You needed
the money for something else. This way, if you get at least eight lights, the landscaping, the the um irrigation, it's done. and then you add the the other four and you just set your lights a certain way that you can add four more
next year. I just think that it would be good for the city, for the residents to see that you're doing a complete project and not okay, we did the lights and we did this, but it's the man the landscaping still looks like and I walk
this area all the time now. And so I think do the whole thing and add more lights later. Thank you. Thank you very much, city clerk. The second card is Tony Shifflo. Tony Shabolo, Historic Norwood House.
Um, for once I agree with Lisa, imagine that. But her point is right on point. And I would like to say that as a member of the historic preservation board, one of the projects that I'm currently working on and I'd like to share with you
because it involves this park as well is um a project on midcentury modern and the space program comes to Titusville. And this being a park that has handprints
and monuments to astronauts, part of the space program is very um gerine to my project I would say. And so I would like to see object um preference too because
of the landscaping and the and the maintenance of it. And I agree with Lisa in spacing the lights 8 versus 12. space them so that you can add the other four in next year, but at least we have a whole year's worth of maintenance of the
landscaping. Um there's a lot of um feedback publicly about the gateway projects to entrances to I95 and how we've got wild flowers, but you know the I don't even know what those plants are
that are growing wild on the on the actual banks of I95. But I thought that was part of the process. I thought that was part of the landscaping that they would do that they would trim those back and make it attractive up there too because that's what you see. You don't look at the little median of the wild
flowers. And when you walk through the space view park, um you look at the monuments, but you also see the landscaping. It's something that really jumps out at you and I think it's very important for that. And lighting. I
I agree with Lisa. Next year add them in. Thank you for letting me speak. Thank you very much. Uh staff, question for you. I see that uh this money uh that we're using to make the improvements are from fiscal year 24, right? That is correct.
Okay. So would a friendly uh amendment be to first of all, how long is this project going to take to get going? Well, it'll need to go out to procurement. So that'll take about 90 days. And then they got to order the lights. So I'd say 6 months.
Okay. And our fiscal year for next year starts October 12th or that is correct. Yeah. So you know it maybe CRA would make a motion to use the funds for option one and then uh when the next budget cycle comes around October 1st
that the irrigation uh be be spent because it's going to take some time to even do either one of the options. So that that would be maybe my recommendation. But member Stokel, you had your light on. Yeah, that was kind of where I was going. Can you just clarify why staff did choose option one?
Is it cheaper if you get all 12 lights at one time versus getting eight and then getting four? Like what is it because you guys are the ones that are doing this and implementing this and knowing the time frame at least 90 days? Like that's helpful when our new budget starts October 1st. It would be nice if everything could hit at the same time.
So can you just explain a little bit? Absolutely. The the reason and the reason I told you the footage difference is because all three departments felt for safety that there might be some dark areas between the solar ones because their act they're action activity
sensors. So that was you know we were we walked it many many times and we're spacing them out and with four we were concerned that people wouldn't be safe that our residents and our visitors would not feel safe enough to go to this park. Okay. And does the landscaping require
the same time frame as getting the lighting? No. It would be quicker, I'm assuming. Yes. Okay. So then I guess, yeah, to the mayor's point, I feel like that would be a good option considering we're already into July and then our new budget year would start October and we're the ones that
get to make the decision so we can make sure that there's funding for the landscaping. So exactly. And you this is CRA funds, which is a separate pot than the general funds. I understand Lisa's point, but you know, it's a little bit more controlled. Um, memorable ball,
I I can go along with that. I I thought along the same lines, why don't we grow the scope to include, you know, make sure we get the lighting and the landscaping. The only um other option I might have suggested we take a look at is do we have other unexpended or carry
over funds from the current budget that we could do a budget amendment to include it? Yes, we do. That's actually in the space view peer line item. There are funds available. I mean, so that we could we could go
ahead with certainty to know we had the whole scope funded by making a budget amendment to transfer um what would it be? Uh $27,000 plus the 12,000 for irrigation. Oh, for
that's a recurring operations cost. Yeah, just 1,200. Just 1,200 recurring, not 122,000. We'd have to do that at our next meeting. Oh, 1200. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah. I just didn't want to scare people that was going to, you know, reoccurring be $12,000.
Right. Right. Sorry. 1,200. Got it. And my glasses on. So, that would that to do the whole scope would require an additional 27,000. Is that correct? Am I reading that correctly? That is correct. So the total for option
three, if we want to call it that, if you do the total bundle and raise it up to where you um to so you can do all of it at once and just it' be 125,000. Okay. I mean, I I I like the idea of going
ahead and identifying with certainty the funding now and then, you know, if we have to make up where we borrow borrowed from Peter to pay Paul, we'll do that when the budget year changes. Thank you, member ball. member Nelson. So, can I make a motion?
You can. For option number three, you clarify your motion. Option number three would be to do the whole project. Uh by the time the RFP comes back, um we may be at the new
budget cycle. If not, we would have to do a budget amendment, but do it all as one package. I have a motion on the floor. Second. I have a motion and I have a second. Any further council discussion? Yes. Member Stoll.
I just want to clarify potentially with city attorney or do we can we do this or do we does it need to be on an agenda if we're doing a budget amendment because it's not advertised yet. Well, you're not doing the budget amendment. So, yeah, you can go ahead and approve this direct staff to go ahead and proceed with the whole project. Option three. Okay. Okay. Um
and then the budget amen the budget amendment will come back before it actually have it on next month's CR. Perfect. Thank you. Member Ball. Any further discussion? Vice Mayor Cole. All right. I have a motion and I have a second. Seeing no further discussion.
All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Thank you very much. Hey, executive director. Yes, sir. Well, we have no new business and uh next is petitions and requests. Be happy.
I am. I'm ecstatic. Um I'm very pleased with the way um people are thinking. Thank you very much for your for your depth and for your interest and your posting and getting citizen feedback. um chilot tropic street. I wanted to say
and remind you that this council is looking at Main Street, Florida Main Street program and the conference is next week in Fernandino Beach and staff and some citizens are actually going and
I'm sure you're going to have some very interesting feedback when they get back from that conference next week because I've been looking at the topics that are going to be covered in the sessions and one is even on the preservation of Terazzo.
How much more Florida can you get than preserving Terzo? I look forward to that session myself. I would like to be there. Thank you very much. Thank you, Miss Shipo. Any other petitions, requests, non-aggenda items?
Seeing none, executive director. Sorry. The last item is the executive director's report and it's just a listing of activities and and uh items that uh Sue Williams is working on for your information and I'm sure she'd be happy to elaborate on any of them but
they're just forformational purposes only. Any questions from council? Sorry, from the board. All right, seeing none, uh I just have one little update as it pertains to the CRA. I know uh a very big goal of ours
has been to slow down traffic in downtown Titusville. Um objectively the data does not support that according to FDOT and our own police. Uh but Secretary Tyler of FDOT has accepted my invitation to come to Titusville and we're going to spend some time downtown
and I'm going to see if subjectively if the speed is a little too fast. So see be really close to US1. Uh, I'm gonna take him for a beer and sit him right outside and see what happens. Uh, say, "Hey, do you think these semi trucks going by at 40 miles an hour feel
like it's slow?" Um, so again, just uh again trying to come up with creative ideas so we can help improve our downtown area. But any and all suggestions from the public, we we happily welcome. Um, anybody have anything else? See none, I'll chain a motion to adjurnn.
Move to adjurnn. Thank you very much.