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Good evening, everybody. This is uh the Board of Health um meeting. Today is Monday, July 27th, 2026 at It's 6:00 p.m. Uh roll call. Dr. Christian Roman

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Ramirez present. >> Thomas Paul Serino, vice chair, online. >> Erasmo Cuervo, here. >> Uh I'll clarify July 27th. Today is the 20 2026 at 6:00 p.m.

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Uh Let's go Let's start with 1.2 with nine Bridal Path septic upgrade. >> This is a existing house on Bridal Path. It's off of uh you know, Main Street or whatever Main Street. It's right around that chain.

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Um but they've got a failing system. So, Bridal Path is here. Uh their existing system is in the same location as their proposed new system. It's three trenches. Uh it's gone into failure and pretty bad. So, we're going to try to push this

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through so they can get it in and and um take care of the issue they're dealing with. But um they're proposing to keep the 1,500-gallon tank that currently exists. Um that was installed in 1998. Uh and then the 1,000-gallon pump

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chamber is going to be um converted into a a septic tank. So, it'll be the basically tanks in series, 1,500, 1,000 gallon. That'll gravity feed to the new leach field. Uh they are not requesting any variances. So, it is in full compliance to the upgrade by

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uh the regulations. >> Okay. Any questions? Comments? No? So, >> [clears throat] >> Um Can I have a motion to approve nine Bridal Path septic upgrade?

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>> I'll call a motion to approve nine Bridal Path up- um upgrade. >> I'll second that motion. >> Okay. Uh roll call. Uh uh all in favor? Dr. Christian Roman Ramirez I.

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>> I. >> Charles Paul Serene, online, I. >> Dr. Nashon, I. >> Okay, very well. That's a 5-0. Okay, we have 1.3 24 Rhines Road septic permit transfer.

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>> So, this was a permit that was just recently approved by the board in May. It was May 26th of 2026. And this is just to um transfer it from the name of the previous owner into the name of the current owner, which is Termaco LLC. So,

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the permit next expiration dates all remain same. It's just a name exchange. >> Okay. We don't need a motion for >> Definitely. >> Okay. Um any other permits? >> Uh that's all the septic permits. >> Okay, thank you.

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Um 1.4 45 Edward Road enforcement. Um Rick, can you tell us a bit about what's going what what is any updates for 45 Admiral Road enforcement? >> So, um, there was the order that was

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sent out on June 29th uh that required them to clean up the uh property within 30 days of receipt. Um, don't have the green card back yet. Um, but I believe they've got a a few more days until they meet that 30-day

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deadline. Um, but we did get an email uh for the last meeting on July 13th where they had said that they would be um taking care of some things. They were having the church uh help them out to get a dumpster to throw some things away

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and that by Sunday the 19th they had hoped to have the yard in good shape. So, I did drive by it today. It's looks significantly better. Um, it looks like they've still got some things that they're taking care of some brush and miscellaneous items. Um, but there is a a dumpster out there and it it looks

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significantly better than it did when we originally received the complaint. And so, I guess I'd like to kind of keep it on the agenda to to take one more look at it before the next meeting. Um, and and then report back to you guys. >> To be continued then, correct? >> Sure. >> Um, Paul, any questions or Todd?

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>> Nope. >> So, should we put it on to be continued then on the agenda? >> I believe we should put it on to be continued yes. >> Okay. To be continued. Okay.

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Uh next on the agenda, 1.5 61 Admiral Road. >> So, uh that one the board issued an order to clean the property up on July 12th. Uh delivery was refused on June uh

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sorry, on June 12th. Uh delivery was refused on June 15th and the certified mail was returned to us. The first class mail did not come back, so it's assumed that that was delivered. The order provided 30 days from receipt,

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which when it's refused it would be that day of refusal. So from June 15th to clean the property up, which at this point we are past. And so at the last meeting the board had asked to Carla to reach out to the conservation commission to try to make a

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joint effort to gain compliance on the property. And Carla did that. I don't think he received any kind of response, but on Thursday when I was here um sent you an email >> Brian

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>> Brian Pinkerton is on the conservation commission who just said that he was going to talk to and talk that the two of you were going to get together. >> So I don't this just happened and Carla probably didn't see it till this morning, but he was kind of designated as the the representative for

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conservation commission. So I know he was talking to Jim Derouin too because Jim was the one that had to clean the property up several years ago to see kind of what how we made communication with them, whether he was willing to to reach out and talk to him

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again or do anything. And so um we'll get you and Brian together and hopefully you guys can figure something out. >> So should we grant an extension for that order or >> They haven't requested [clears throat] anything or done anything, so at this

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point they're beyond the order and so I would My suggestion would be to just leave it in place and then if and when you decide that you want to take enforcement to that next level, which would be requesting use of town council from the select board, then you could do that. But at least

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based on how I took your talk at the last meeting, you were going to attempt to try to avoid that and see if you could make progress without filing in court. >> So, we have left it so that Mr. Arsenault will meet with the representative of conservation then and

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for a work session. >> I'll get Pinky's number Brian Pinkerton's number and have the two of you talking. I don't know, I'm sure he has an email but I don't know what it is. >> Yeah, so I think he just gave me the phone number which I emailed to you so

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if you don't mind if you shoot it back so long then you can touch base with him. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> But you would just keep following up. >> Okay. >> Okay, we'll keep it as it is then. Agree Paul? Do? >> Yes, I agree. >> Okay, very well.

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So, to be continued to um 61 Edward Road enforcement discussion then. Be continued pending on the work session between the representative of Board of Health

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and the representative of conservation and we had delegated on the clerk to make any decisions on behalf of the Board of Health. So, he has that authority that we delegated on the last meeting that we had as well. >> Okay.

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>> Okay. 1.6 VFW post 6538 food service permit. Tell us about any news Rick? >> And Mr. Moore, right? >> Yes. >> So, Mr. Moore I think is here representing the VFW as well. But I

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um they did submit their application. I believe it was Wednesday, right Carla? Last week. So, I did submit that to Bridget. She reviewed it. Everything was there that was needed to issue the permit so the permit was issued today.

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It should be going out in the mail to you to you to the PO Box. I I'm here just to apologize to the board for all this ruckus and row. Um I investigated it very much and I

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don't know where the emails went, but we don't have any record of those. Uh we did have I'm I'm sure we got the letter back in October. Um and I just want to apologize to the board as a whole for putting you through all that stuff. I hope you have my phone

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number so you can call me if anything comes up because I'm happy to get it taken care of. The this second time >> [clears throat] >> I was told the first time it was taken care of. And found out it wasn't, so I appreciate your patience and come October we'll

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have all the paperwork in that we need to. >> We accept your apology, Mr. Moore, and I want to thank you for coming. That's for me speaks volumes in the sense that um that when

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when we represent a team and when we represent a whole it's not only by the name, but it's by the person, too. And I think that having you here with us tells a lot and we really appreciate and accept your apology. And we wish you to understand that this

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because of the responsibility that we have as a board, we have to over we have to oversee that our constituents have uh all all the necessary precautions and that if if we are involved it's because

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we we we are here to to oversee that that the health of the people of Townshend is is should be in good shape. >> The water health did nothing wrong. It was all on the B&W. And I've got it already down. We have a

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new board. I have it already down for next year, so you won't even have to think about it next year. I'll bring the paperwork in myself, even though I don't have anything to do with it, but I'll make sure it happens. >> I have no doubt. >> And I did put your number in the file.

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>> Call me anytime. >> Any Any comments from from our board members? >> Um no. I think that uh it will all work out well. Thank you. >> Thank you very much, sir. >> Thank you. >> And thank you for coming in and have a great rest of the afternoon, okay? So long.

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>> Thank Thank you for putting up with us. >> Thank you. >> Bye-bye. >> Bye. >> Thank god we left today. >> Okay. >> Huh? >> Sir? >> No, no. He's okay. >> He's okay? >> Yeah. >> No rush, sir. >> Okay. >> No. >> I'll stay if you want me to. That's okay.

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>> As I'm going to say, is we know we knew about it for a long time. Right? I knew about it. We sit at one of these meetings and I would know about it. S- that that that somebody would have known about it down there. You know what I mean? Okay. >> That's why seeing him coming in is like

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>> Well, I understand that, but we knew this We've known this for a long time. As I'm saying, I didn't know about it. If I knew about it a while ago, we'd have made some phone calls and he would have been first on my list. That's all. So. >> Okay. >> Call again.

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>> Thank you. >> Uh 1.7 polystyrene po- po- polysty- styrene use restriction regulations, otherwise known as Styrofoam. The Styrofoam regulations. What do we

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have here, Carla? >> You have uh town council's review of the regulations effective Sep- September 1st. They have a few comments. Rick and I went over them. They seemed pretty average comments, but

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Rick, you wanted to speak about the retailer comment, correct? >> So, I think, you know, most of them are kind of just beefing up definitions and adding some, you know, background information, which I think is is good. The only things that

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really seem to alter the regulations are one under on the third page or I I guess at the bottom of the second and into the third page for violations, town council had suggested a warning for the first offense and then fines for the

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second, third, and fourth and subsequent offenses, which is different than the original set of regulations. So, just wanted to point you I get out to you so that you you take a look at it and you can decide whether or not that's what you would want to move forward with.

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And then the other part is regarding the undue hardship and the process for really how it's written food service establishments to petition to the board that they should be able to use Styrofoam for some reason that meets

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this definition of undue hardship. And the comment from council was whether or not you wanted to include retail establishments in that. I'm not There's already exemptions built in for retail establishments and those are the things that are prepackaged foods that come in

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Styrofoam containers. And so, I can't really foresee a scenario where a retailer would have an undue hardship because the other items would be Styrofoam bowls, plates, cups, and things like that that you know, the the intent of the regulations is to not

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have those sold in towns anymore. And so, I don't think that the undue the undue hardship would really apply to a retailer. It really only apply to a food service establishment. And that's always written right now. >> I think that adding a warning letter for the first and then the second for the

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offense, the third and the fourth, I think that should be added. That's on on the third page on the top. >> Yes. >> Oh, okay, then. Um These are the corrections that town

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council suggested um what we should do. The ones that here are in blue. Yes, and then I tell them the comments on why we're here. Why do we need here? And you see that they did some deletions of two. What about here, the language that says

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here, um do we want to eventually be able to review or revoke any licenses issued by the board of health? >> With where are you on what page? >> Uh it says on the uh including the offenses. Um so, do we want to add that or

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um Give up this language. >> Town council. >> Rick, what are your thoughts on that? Because I'm thinking that if someone has a warning, a first offense, a second, a third, would it get really come to the point where you would need that?

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>> So, you know, basically once you get up to the fourth and any offense after that, it just continues to be a $100 fine. And I just, you know, the tough part for me with the revocation of the license would be the actual license isn't necessarily attached to Styrofoam. They're two

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separate sets of regulations. And there might be retailers out there that we don't permit in any capacity. Um they might just be a retail establishment that doesn't sell the food products that we have to permit because at this point the Board of

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Health doesn't permit uh a lot of like the the really simple pre-packaged foods that don't require refrigeration. Um So, there there might be a few there. So, I I I'm not sure that that I would, but you know, the Board could certainly consider it if if they wanted to.

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>> You got it. >> Yeah, I mean if if you were issuing a permit through this set of regulations, then I would say, yeah, that should be something that's added. But you're not issuing any kind of a permit. It's just the expectation is that people who

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either are in the food service business or are in the retail business will just comply with this set of regulations. And if you have an issue, then they're dealt with through the warnings and fines that are already established. >> Yeah, I agree. >> Yeah, I think that I think that second

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paragraph says it. Any restaurant that resides in a you know, restaurant complies to cover the Board of Health stuff, then we're okay. >> So, we're sure to add that. Um >> I don't think we'd have to go that deep. >> Okay. >> Personally. >> So, do we

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Let me ask you, Rick, should we approve with what town council has advised us to do at this point tonight or should we um or should we um because there's I mean there's only

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um the only uh uh there was only like three points that they're recommending in in in in here after the fine, we're not considering the revocation of the permit. So, that's that's taken care of.

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Um And what about here, the town's intent is to reach your establishments are unable to exercise the permit option. >> That's what we just discussed. Right Rick? >> No. >> So,

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yeah, the undue hardship. >> Yes. >> Yeah, so that was the one where it's the undue hardship is specific to food service establishments and and that's how it's defined, so it doesn't include the retail establishments that are also subject to these regulations.

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Like I said, I just I can't see a time where retailer would make a valid argument for you to consider an undue hardship. >> Yeah, I mean >> So, do you think we should eliminate this uh leave it as as it is currently or

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>> Wait, what are you saying? >> Yeah, so I mean as it's written right now, it's the undue hardship is specific to food service establishments. So, if that's your intent, which I believe it was when it was written, then I would just say yeah, then it then it would be okay as as it's written on

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this this uh this draft. >> So, should we leave it as it is then? Okay. Okay, second point is taken care of. And the definitions, first point um >> You didn't think to get her on the >> Yeah, so the the purpose is the next

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live or comment, and she really um counsel had had reviewed it and added some more information regarding uh polystyrene or Styrofoam and kind of um the health effects and the reason why the board is passing the regulation, which is obviously a good, so I would say

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as she revised it, the the board I would recommend adopt it as as she wrote it. >> Okay. Can I have a motion then to approve um the the the poly polystyrene use restriction regulation known as the

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Styrofoam regulation after review um from town council? >> I call a motion to approve the polystyrene use restriction regulation as the draft is written. >> Has town council already approved it? This is town council's presentation.

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>> Town council's approved. Yes. >> So, Rick, would it Do you think that they should make a motion to sign it out of meeting at the next meeting? >> if that's what you want, it might not be a bad idea just cuz now we're getting close to >> time. That's what's making me nervous, too. September 1st is right around the

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>> Well, we are approving, so we have the motion on the table. Who seconds it? >> Well, we're not doing that as is cuz we're taking this one >> No, we take we already went over 1 2 and 3, so we're reviewing it. >> going to approve and approve as the comments and revisions,

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and then you can sign at your next >> comments and revisions. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Why sign now? >> Okay. Uh roll call. Uh in favor, Dr. Christian Roman Reyes, I. >> Charles Paul Serene, I.

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>> Antonio Soldevila, I. >> Okay, [clears throat] very well. It's approved. Um yeah, the effective date will be >> September 1st. >> September 1st. >> And so, um, we'll just have to clean it up or put our signature. >> Absolutely. Absolutely.

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Okay. Um Okay, I think you're all set. >> Yeah, I am. >> Okay, let's Let's move on to >> question on the Oh, yes. on the fees. Um, just reading the bylaws, um, it does say

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that there needs to be, um, a uh hearing regarding new fees. Is this a new fee that's going to be added? >> No. >> It's an existing fee. >> It's not a fee at all. >> Okay, I thought it was >> They're regulations, yeah. >> No, it's fines for

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>> Oh, fines different fees. >> Okay, just wanted to be clear on that in case >> Is that why you're here? >> No. >> [laughter] >> But once I heard that, I was >> Yeah, so there was fines. >> So you know, that the board already held their public hearing. Um, so this is

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just a review, town council's review of the draft, yeah. >> Um I'm going to hold on to 1.8, which is memorandum of understanding for health administrative payroll expenses to the enterprise fund, and we're going to move

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on to 1.9, invoices. Invoices. >> How about an hour? >> You too. See you Thursday? >> Uh, yeah, I'll see you tomorrow if you're going to be there too. >> Oh, crap, that's right. Yes. Thank you. Okay, uh, Baystate Constable, $60 for,

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um, serving the VFW. AT&T monthly bill, Staples some PA system expenses, $32 for envelopes for mailing. Tyler Lamarche, our recycling employee, $150 for his boot allowance. Staples under the RDP grant, $85.89

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for color toner for flyers that go out. Weston and Sampson, we are going to pay the Capital Landfill for the monitoring well this year. Um it's done time. So, um that is your warrant for a total of

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$4,366.31. Back up is rate deduction. >> [clears throat] >> Well, here it is. >> The copy of the renewal. >> Yes. >> Okay, so we have an official here too. >> We're actually going to be refunding they they paid us $50 to the FW and

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they're non-profit, so we're actually going to be paying that money back to them. >> Okay. Yeah, I'm good. I can't sign it from here, so >> And I have a motion to approve uh the

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invoices listed for $4,366.31. >> I call a motion to approve the invoices for $4,366 and uh the pennies. >> I'll second that motion for 31 cents. >> Okay. >> 31 cents, okay.

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>> Um roll call. Dr. Christian Ramirez, I approve the invoices. >> Charles Paul Serene, I. >> Dr. Asnault, I. >> Hey. Okay. Um we're going to we're going to go back

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over to 1.8 memo of memo of understanding for health administrator and pay as you throw enterprise funds. Um we have online here um a representative of the union. If you

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can present yourself, please, to the Board of Health. >> Hello, my name is Lindsay Gasley. I'm with AFSCME Council 93. >> Hi, Lindsay. >> Hi. >> Hello. >> So, we have under our consideration

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um the our recommend our our recommendation or not for Miss Walters um memo of understanding. This is something that we did last year for the for the benefit of the public uh regarding her functions with the pay

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as you throw program. Um and um I went over and I had a few questions because of how of the way that how it is written. Um and

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specifically on page two, um paragraph number one, um paragraph the number one where it says there there there therefore and number two where it says on number one effective

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July 9th, 2026, the parties agree that the employer may in its discretion with the and I would add with the approval of the Board of Health bargaining unit member Miss Miss Aquila additional or new

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additional or new dis- new duties related to work performed on behalf of the department as detailed on exhibit A. Also on number two, I would add on the language this assignment of duties to Miss Aquila on behalf of these public

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bodies shall be awarded at the discretion of the employer with the approval of the Board of Health. I know that says here in in con- in con- in con- connection with the department I

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would I would I would strike that and then continue on the employer with the approval of the Board of Health have the right to discontinue Miss Aquila's performance blah blah blah. And then at the end of the

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of the at the at the most end it says here on the last line it says to to discontinue Miss Aquila's performance of duties with the approval of the Board of Health. Those are the things that I personally

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and and I'm not the only we are a mem- three-member board but that is what I would recommend in order for us as a board to recommend this um, of understanding to be, um, approved and be given to the

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select, um, to the town administrator so that he can present it to the select board and then have the select board sign it. >> Okay, understood. Thank you for that. I'm happy to make those recommendations and pass them back along.

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>> Awesome. >> We we are concerned with where you since we're out of date here a bit, we do want to make sure that the money does get paid retroactively. >> I don't know if my other board members have any comments about Those were the

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things that I identify that, um, that we um as board we are we are we are That's what I what I'm seeking to to have the recommendation on uh, in and out the board had approved, um,

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on on on its meeting on February 9th, we had designated Carla Walter as the, um, as the pay-as-you-throw person in charge of of the enterprise account and we had

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submitted the budget too, which was included the the approval of the monthly, um, of the payment of the stipend as part of her services too. So, uh, but um, but in addition to that we want to add

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those points that that, um, since the board of health is the one who's designated to administer the the the enterprise account, um, it should have the recommendation of the board of health in order to proceed with the town administrator

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and Carla. So, um, I don't know what what are what are the board members' comments about this? >> What do you think? >> I Okay, we uh appointed Carla back in February. So,

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I feel she should be paid retroactive. >> I agree with that. I'm sorry, what's what's her name, Cathy? >> Lindsay. >> Lindsay, what are your thoughts, Lindsay? That was my question. >> I I'm in full agreement. >> What did she say? >> She's in full agreement. >> Full agreement.

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Okay. You're good with the changes from Mr. Ramirez? >> Yes, I'm happy to put those forth. >> Okay. >> Excellent. >> Okay. Can I have a motion then for this board to approve

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uh the memo of understanding between the town of Townsend and >> Uh >> Between the town >> Uh between the town between the town of Townsend and Council

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93, American Federation of State, County, Municipal Employees, AF of L and Carla Aquila? >> Yes. >> I call a motion. Ditto. I can't repeat all that. >> You're good with that?

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>> I'm okay with that. I'll second >> I'll I'll I'll second that motion. >> Okay, roll call. Dr. Those in favor, Dr. Christian, Roman, Ramirez, say I. I. >> Charles Paul Serene, I. >> Donald Stone Guy, >> Okay, very well. It is approved then

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with the with with these with those additions that we mentioned. >> Is there anything else, Lindsay, that we need to do for you? >> Uh no. All I can do from here is uh submit the changes and request the draft to be made up. >> Excellent. You can email it to me when

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you have it done and I'll make sure that it gets to Christian. >> Okay. So, we'll be in communications with Kieran about that. >> Excellent. Thank you so much for your support. >> All righty, you're welcome. Thank you. Have a good night. >> Good night.

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>> Thank you. >> Um 1.11. Next >> 1.10. >> Oh, 1.10 2 minutes. Sorry. >> That's okay. July 13th. >> Paul, you have Paul, you have one? >> You have minutes.

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>> Yeah, I know. Sorry. Yeah, we got it. >> All right, so the meeting is called >> Finish that. >> Okay. Um can I have a motion to approve the minutes for the meeting of July 13th 2026? >> I call a motion to approve the meeting

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minutes from July 26th. >> No, 13th. >> Oh, the 13th. Sorry. >> 2026. >> Sorry. >> Second that motion. >> Okay. Okay, roll call. Those in favor of electing Christian from BSI.

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>> Charles Paul Serene, I. >> Chuck Asmel, I. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Then we have 1.11. Next meeting on 8/10/2026. Um we have asked um I have asked

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um for [clears throat] Irene Cott Conment Conment Conment to come and give us a presentation about recycling, um how to properly recycle, and

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um and also we have asked Shaw's to I requested numbers about the percentage of the numbers of the recycling that gets contaminated. And the purpose of those numbers is to bring it to the public

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and to see what way we can add more to the recycling and less of the trash because >> [gasps] >> my understanding is that once that recycling is contaminated, unfortunately that recycling is not a recycle is not

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recyclable. It's converted to trash. And um and it's going to be my norm um to request not only the tonnage monthly, but to request the numbers of contaminated trash >> [clears throat]

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>> uh from the contaminated recycling too. Because >> give it to you like give you that monthly though. I don't know we we always have reports that have the recycling and the trash tonnage. I can give you the recycling tonnage every month. It's in it's in our report. But I don't know based on the

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emails that we received did did you see the email? He said it was going to be difficult because it's from a different company. So it'll certainly work, but I I don't know if we'll be able to get it monthly. >> Okay. >> Well, we will have conversations with Shaws about that, but at least for the next meeting, I I will present the

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numbers for for the last recycling because again, we want to create consciousness to the public that they need to recycle properly and we just cannot lose re- We need to to the money to go in a proper in a properly way, right? Because

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if we recycling, we have to do it correctly. And probably there are folks that they don't know how to how to recycle and that's why I really this coming to give us a presentation. If she accepts to present to give us a presentation about how we should recycle and to

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reduce the number of contamination in the recycling. >> I really think a good thing for her to do would be to do a presentation at the senior center. I think a lot of the older people do not understand [clears throat] what

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recycling is and even the young kids don't know. >> But have like a board of health meeting at the recycling at the at the senior center? >> Have her do when they when the senior centers have their weather, you know, it's which is the word, you know,

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it's a quilting from 3:00 to 5:00, yoga from 3:00 to 7:00, learn about recycling from 9:00 to 10:00. Come find out how you can save money with your purple bags by recycling better.

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>> But I like to have her I have no idea what he's talking about contaminated recycling. Somebody spit on it? Um, a bird pooped on it? I want it to be something I don't know what this is. I'd be curious. This is

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televised and recorded for playback and then we can ask her to put on a a presentation maybe at the senior center for the seniors or anyone that wants to attend. But I'm curious to what this uh contaminated, you know, radioactive I

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threw out something >> Well, the contaminated Let's get Glenn at the next meeting. So, he might not have his numbers, but let's get better Glenn in to show >> Real quick. Just follow me. What do you think happens if you throw a recyclable in the purple bag? It has not contaminated. They can take

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it out of the purple bag and recycle it. So, people know better not to throw it in the purple bag. That's a recyclable now. That that that's where the contamination starts. >> Okay. But that But that's contaminated trash because there's recycling in the trash.

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>> Not trash, recyclables. When a recyclable What For example, let's say that in the recycling bin and this is what I learned, if in the recycling bin I throw like um let's say I I can throw this cup, for

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instance, right? And if I don't wash it and I throw it all that together to the recycling, what what was going to happen is that this liquid is going to ruin all that I have separated, the paper, the other plastics that I washed, and all those

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things. This will contaminate the recycling that I had already accumulated in that recyclable. And that is That is what it >> Washing Washing the plastics and containers and stuff that would be part

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of >> I don't think so. >> No. >> Let me explain that. If I If I If I may, one of the One of the things that I've just recently learned I've done some reading on recycling is we're not supposed to even though the number is a five, you're not supposed to put black in there.

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So, if I put black plastic in, it's now contaminated the rest of it because they can't sort it out. So, they have to take it from a good recycling to contaminated recycling. >> But Glenn takes our recycling to a sorting company down in Auburn and they

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separate it all. It goes on conveyors. They have people there that sort stuff that's not recyclable. We pay for that. >> Not college, but I've seen they have machines and what I heard is the machines don't reflect the color and don't separate it properly and that's what we're doing and that's what they're

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saying here, I think. >> So, let's let's let's let's let's add let's add let's add Irene to the presentation. >> But the goal at the end of the day is to reduce the purple bag. >> Yeah, so so that's what you're trying to get the recyclable out of the purple

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bag. >> Right. >> But when >> Right. >> when I read people buy more purple bags. >> Let's let people buy more purple bags. >> Yeah. >> So, can we add them to have Mr. Shaw's to come in for that meeting

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also so that so that uh he can explain to us he can bring us those numbers that that I'm requesting and um and have Irene do her presentation to us here as a board and and we will open it to the public if anybody wants to come and wants to learn

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about recycling. >> I absolutely and then I I think that it would be good for the board and I can't speak for Shaw's at all. Um but Shaw's has asked the board on multiple occasions if you guys wanted to come up and tour his new

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transfer station and I think that that would be a great idea for you guys to go around because then you'll see exactly what I'm talking about and how they have the contamination because they compact things and then and the people come in and they stick a little pin in and then they they come out and they say, "Oh, this is contaminated. I'm not going to

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buy this." So, so there there's a lot more to it than just sticking liquid in that contaminates and I think that we should just go to the source and have the source tell us what's going on. >> Okay. >> Okay.

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I mean, I just I I don't have enough knowledge of it. And and I think that we should we should understand from Shaw's and I and I would welcome the board to go up with me cuz I would like to and and actually take a tour of his his facility. >> We'll do exactly. So, you're recommending you're recommending us to

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that to do a tour at his new transfer station? >> board of health members should do a site visit. Glenn has invited me. I'm sure if he's inviting me, he's inviting the board, too. I I cannot speak for him opening up to the public

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but I think that he also should come in here and speak about what exactly is happening with the contamination and how it's happening. Because he's the expert. >> Let's do it. So what What Whatever you're recommending us board then so that we can put a motion

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>> Make a motion to go virtual. >> So, can I have a motion to to do a a motion to to a site a site hearing? >> It'll It'll Well, I I have to check it

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out because >> If you have a meeting, I don't know if the public because you are having a public meeting does that If you're having a quorum and you're going to be at a place, does that mean that the public can go and attend?

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>> Generally, [clears throat] the answer would be yes. >> I know. That's what I'm thinking, too. So, I I have to figure out how to do this. Do Do each of you go up on a separate day and tour with yourselves with Glenn? That that might No. >> What about if it is a work a work a

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working session? >> No, even if it's a work session, it's >> Right. >> But we're out of state, does it matter? It'll be out of state, so. >> No, it doesn't >> It's the quorum. It's the quorum that's going to get you. So, I I would suggest that you guys go up individually.

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>> Like Well, we took class together and that wasn't a quorum. >> I got an idea. We'll send Christian up. He can just come back and explain it to us. Or >> All right. >> I I second that motion. >> Okay. >> Maybe he can take him for one of the

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remote with him. Yes. >> Now we're going >> T-Cam can go with me. >> I'll talk to them about that. >> That would be my suggestion. >> And then that would be great, and then we could have it for everyone to see it. We could put it on like a cable channel on the website, see where everything

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goes. See where your trash goes. It's a great idea. >> Yeah, that was a great idea. Yeah. >> Now that you're here either. >> Can they have a motion then to to to have the chairman of the Board of Health attend a tour

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at the transfer station from Glenshaw's with assistance with T-Cam? >> Yep, then I'll come to. >> I call a motion for the chairman of the Board of Health Christian to attend a tour with T-Cam up

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at Glenshaw's uh new uh transfer station. >> I'll second that motion. >> Okay. All those in favor, roll call. Dr. Christian Ramirez, I.

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>> Charles Paul Serino, I. >> And I second that motion, I. >> Okay. [clears throat] Uh but we still have the meeting with with Irene on the next meeting. >> Yeah, I think that it would be great to have both of them here, do it all at once. Have Have Glenn here, have Irene

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here, and just do recycling. >> like to hear this, cuz we're even confused about it. So. >> So. >> I I think it's time. And the situation changes all the time, too. The market changes, so it's really good to hear where exactly everything is going.

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>> Okay. Very well. Uh any any final comments, questions before we adjourn tonight's meeting? >> No, I'm good. >> Okay, can I have a motion to adjourn tonight's meeting?

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>> I call a motion to adjourn tonight's meeting. >> I second that motion. >> Okay, roll call. Dr. Christian Roman Rubios I. >> Charles Paul Serene, I. >> Dr. Aslam, >> Meeting adjourned at

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