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Um, good evening everybody. Um, today is Monday, July 13th, 2026. It's 6:02 p.m. Um, Board of Health meeting. Uh, roll call. Dr. Christian Roman Ramirez, present.

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>> Charles Paul Serene, vice chair and Donald Asmal clerk here. >> Okay. Uh, going into business. Uh, we we are going to go to 1.2, uh, PACED throw uh, the PACED throw

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enterprise fund update. Um, and uh, and we have our treasurer Elizabeth. Uh, >> Actually, accountant. >> The accountant, sorry. >> That's okay. >> We have Elizabeth here with us. Um, Elizabeth, um, did she say you sent

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us a Do you have them so that we can pass you and and and so that people can see the spreadsheets that you sent us? >> Yeah. Um, does somebody want to Am I able to share? >> you can. If you can share allow Elizabeth to share so that um,

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>> the share button. I don't know. Does Is this allowing me to share? I'm hitting the share button. I don't know if it's letting me. >> Yes, you can. >> I can? Okay. Uh, I don't know

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Can you guys see this? Spreadsheet? >> Not yet. >> I know. It's asking me >> We have to knock on the door. He said it's not >> pull them. Let me pick the right thing. How about now?

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>> It's doing something. There you go. >> And is it sharing the spreadsheet? >> It is. >> There's there's a message there. >> I can't see it anymore. There we go. Now I can. >> There's a message in the middle of the screen. I don't think that's ours. Oh.

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It says something about parameters. >> showing the wrong screen. Let me see if I get this up there if it shares that. Now can you see it? >> Yes. >> Okay. Yeah, that's my Adobe stuck in time. I can't get it to go away. I'm going to have to end task on that. All right, here's the most updated

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>> [clears throat] >> sheet with expenses and revenues. There might be some revenues trickling in to post. I don't know if I have them all as they're reconciling June, but they're very close to I think what it's going to be.

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I know that we got, let me see, I did put in this 15968 was the waste zero turnover to the town. It hasn't hit the um general ledger yet, but I did get notification of it. So

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that's rather low compared to what it's been. Um I don't know if it's reflected in this number or not. Let me give me a second because it's supposed to be. >> [sighs and gasps] >> Doesn't look like it, does it?

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Oh, it's not in there. I'd have to override that then. 15, excuse me for bouncing around so much, 15968. That's a little better. So what do you guys want to know about this? Um it shows that your revenue

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versus your expenses are um your expenses exceeded your revenue by 32,000 for the year, the first year. I'm not sure if you have increased the bag cost or fees for the program yet

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for '27. >> So, the increase was um for 125 to 150, um uh uh for the sticker program, plus the revenues from Waste Zero. Um

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but uh so, but we This is all the numbers that we have, Elizabeth, until June. >> Yes. >> So, we are over how much? >> The 32,151. >> Okay. That's from last year, that rolls into

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this year. >> received It's You've also received a bunch of um stickers, as you can see in June. There was a 18,000 received, so some of that is for fiscal year '27. >> [clears throat] >> For this coming year.

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>> Okay. So, we are still um even with those stickers, we are still that um that will be rolled over to the enterprise account then, right? >> Well, so this doesn't include the 160. This is just showing you

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what your actual expenses and revenues were without the 160 that was um the cash that came in. If you look at Let me see if I can get the trial balance over. Oh, my Adobe's not working. I can't bring it over, but I sent you reports.

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And [clears throat] you have a positive balance at the end of the year because of the 160 that you received. >> That's on the next page. >> Yeah. >> Unfortunately, I'll bring it. >> Let me update this. So, it's you're at about 127 rolling

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over into the next fiscal year. I just wanted to show you what your program is doing revenues versus expenses without the 160. Because if it runs a deficit year over year, eventually you'll be in deficit

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for the entire year. You'll eat into that balance. >> Of course. >> Right? So, you are increasing and that should help. I don't know how much. I don't know if you know, the more you go up, will more people drop out of the

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program. It's something to consider, too. I don't know if you've gotten any feedback from residents on it or pushback on it. Have you? >> So, my understanding, we have we have over over 1,800 people that have signed

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in for for the sticker program. So, >> Okay. >> Um so, um that should make a difference at at um at some point on this. And I don't have final with me, either. So,

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um let me see here. >> Do you have a sense for how many people signed up last year? Has it increased? >> What's the total number last year? >> Do you remember? >> I don't remember from the top of my head that that people that but it went over the um the 1,800,

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too, last year, but I don't remember from the top of my head exactly. >> And that's the same percentage. >> Yeah, very similar. >> Okay. And it the the fee price went up by $25? >> Yes, 25. >> So that's like an extra 45 grand there

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abouts in revenue on the fees. >> All right. Some of the expenses went up with waste there alone on the cost of the bags. We didn't increase them. We absorbed. But I don't have those numbers. >> We don't have those numbers either yet.

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Um [clears throat] >> The push comes to shove. Now we're going to be really to make. >> We didn't. Is that what you're saying? >> That's That's what I see the pretty for not taking the 160 grand in consideration. Well, she took the 160 out, we had 32.

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>> That was We We all spent $32,000 she said. >> Oh, I didn't catch that. >> Well, isn't that what we said? >> Yeah, the expenses exceed revenues by the 32. >> Okay. >> Plus the 160. That's with that 160.

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>> The add 160 back, it does you know, obviously that's there. But if you have if you run a deficit, like I said, it'll eat into the 160. Um And this includes some sticker some fees um for the program fee.

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>> Yeah. >> Pre-collected if you will. When people paid in June for next year. So keep in mind you know, it was running about you know, 500 a month, 875. Then in June it jumped up to 18,950, which indicates that people prepaid for

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the program. >> All right. So we don't get more participation, program's going to fail this year, is what you're saying. >> Well, I'm seeing that yeah, well, yes. Your expenses exceed the revenue. So

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you're going to need more in participation or increased fees, which you know, could have an adverse effect, which people will go, "I'm just going to go privatize if we're going to keep raising the prices." Right? So, >> Yeah. >> I'm sorry. >> We're going to

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try to get more participation. So, Well, that's I've got a few ideas. We'll talk Cut to Cut to the chase, you know, without the stuff about the adverse effect. If it's either does or it doesn't. You know what I mean? >> I understand that. >> We'll make it to the 11th month right

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now without get more participation. >> Yeah. >> Mhm. We'll do one month without trash pickup. That's all. I will get more participation. There's enough people around town with dumpsters that really it'd be nice to get them in the program.

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>> So, so So, 32 32,000. Is that what we >> It went up by 45,000 in the >> revenue. >> Right. That should help. All I can do is keep tracking it month to month. >> So, so to be safe with the 1,800 people,

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we should If we went up another $25, you know, $175 sticker, we'd be in a little bit of shape. But next year, we might have to do do this as of now. But I It's a little late. We've already sent the stickers, so.

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Uh we'll sell more bags. That's all. Okay. Anyways. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So, >> I stop sharing? >> I'll mostly be for the next 6 months. So. It does well for you. It's all lemonade and trash bags essentially all

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>> Elizabeth, this one it says the ledger history trial balance general ledger on that says waste management enterprise cash that has from this period up to date. Um from fiscal year 20

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2026. Um Tell me more about because it says here three accounts ending totalizing from 600 667,154 dollars with 56 cents. And then on the bottom says zero.

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Can you explain this? >> Yeah, that's a trial balance that just shows you like where the accounts at. The most important number there is the top number which is the cash. That's the cash on hand. That's your all the revenues and all the expenses that hit that and that's where your

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balance is at the moment. >> Here's 11. Okay. >> Zero is actually good. It means it's balanced. >> Okay, that's good. Better. All right.

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>> Do we have any more questions to Elizabeth >> That's regarding it's Again, we got to work on more participation to make the program successful. We'll have to get the word out around town. It'd be nice people would join. >> Well, even at that even at that, right?

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You said you said 1,800. And there's 3,400 residents. Plus or minus. >> 32 I think they were 32. >> Um I dare you to do the numbers, but yeah. So, we would need I got I think we got to focus on what

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done the what we had last year plus this year cuz it's not going to change, I don't think. I mean, we can So, I think we should focus on you know, raising of course raising the fees of raising the bags because it's right trying to push people on the into getting into the program isn't going to isn't going to make it better.

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>> Can you think minutes? >> Yeah, as right now. >> Okay. >> All right, thank you. >> Um all right, so one thing [clears throat] could be in consideration is uh you're saying Todd like raising the the the >> the bag fees. >> I think we should focus on that versus I

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mean of course we need to focus on getting more participants too, but I think we need to take the average number we have now this year, last year, and focus on those amount of people that we have and see where we need to make it work with those residents, you know what I mean? >> Okay.

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>> Cuz cuz to to to to to build that number up that's going to be a it's going to be a a large number of new >> And >> new stickers. >> We got to crack down on the waste management companies coming into town cuz my neighbor today had cardboard

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sticking out like a out of his dumpster. No, they don't recycle at all. And um that's embarrassing to your next-door neighbor. Um so that we've got to crack down on the manage the company that supplies this or anybody licensed in our

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town needs to uh supply recycling. >> I think it's another that's another chapter, ain't it? >> Well, by doing that then their rates go up and then people won't come back to our program. That's going to it's going to cost them money to have a second truck come around and pick up recycling.

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So, um right now it's teetering on they both cost about the same. It's a little bit cheaper to spend the 150 if you're a smaller family. If you're a large family like me, it's a lot cheaper for me to get a dumpster. I'm staying on the program that I supported.

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So, um try to make it successful. >> And Elizabeth, one more thing on this on the page that says expense control report expenditure ledger. Um, can you is this all part of the same projection

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because it says here waste services trash tonnage and all that kind of stuff? >> The expenditure report? >> Mhm. >> Okay, that is your budget for fiscal year 26 and all your expenses for the year.

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Let me pull it up. Like I said, I have it up but my Adobe's locked up so I got to pull the report up on Vedar. >> Well, one thing that varies is tonnage. We're we're doing labor costs. Tonnage Tonnage has been coming down. Do have a

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We can look at last year's numbers now and start comparing. But, they came down tremendous from 2024 to 20 I mean 2025 to 2026. So, >> All right. >> Want to move on?

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>> Let's see here. Because I see here that at the end it says 88,196.44. That's the total of the the expenditure balance, right? >> Yeah, that was the unexpended amount of

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the budget. >> Okay. So, that means Okay. Does anyone have any other questions regarding the pains as you scroll enterprise fund update for something? Even the people that are

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online. Okay. Um. So in this case then we thank you Elizabeth for coming in. Oh and one more >> [clears throat] >> one more thing 1.3 Board of Health year end budget discussion.

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Do you have those numbers too or no? >> The year end budget? >> Yep. >> Um after this warrant I'll have the final. >> Okay. >> This this week's warrant is the final 26 and it gets posted tomorrow. >> Okay. So this is going to be you guys

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>> submitted for that budget will reduce that 88,000 by whatever you guys have approved for bills. >> Okay so this is going to be continued for our next meeting then year end budget discussion because we don't have the final number so that'll be continued then.

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On 727 will be continued then. Elizabeth thank you very much for coming in and and and have a great rest of the afternoon, okay? >> Thank you, you as well. Have a good night everybody. >> You bye.

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Okay. So 1.3 will be continued on on our next meeting on 727. 1.4 45 and 61 Edward Road enforcement discussion. Regarding the enforcement discussion for

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45 Edward Road, we received communication from the residents. Um. I have we have a an email here from the resident

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um communicating the the date of the message is July 13th. Um and um and basic basically um they're reporting to the Board of Health that um

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that um that they they uh they bought tools to cut through the vines that are wrapped around everything and and they have been working so that um can get to what they need to get rid of. Um they've been cutting back weeds

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drastically, mowing, cleared off the porch, and organized what they need to get rid of and keep. Um They have They They They They requested a a picking a junk metal company

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to get rid of some of the junk as well. Um and um An Ignoku Church has been helping them to get a big dumpster to get rid of the extras in their yard. Uh so they expect

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to by Sunday um nine July 19th, um the yard will be in good shape. Um Rick, do you have any report about about um the conditions on on um 45 >> Yeah, so

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>> Andover Road? >> I guess just to go over what the order required um with it was a plan to clean the property by July 13th, which would be that email explaining you know what their plan is and and how they go about they're going to go about doing it. And then 30 days

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from receipt of the order to comply. Um they still haven't uh made the last attempt of the certified mail delivery. Obviously, they got it, but the certified mail is what starts the the compliance clock. And so that that 30-day window really hasn't started

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quite yet. Um but I did drive by. It's significantly better than it was. Um, that was on Thursday last week. Um, so there's definitely an improvement and hopefully they, you know, move up forward according to their plan and and um, really can issue a compliance letter. >> So, is your recommendation then to keep

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the enforcement until they fully comply? >> Yeah. >> Now, you also have 61 Edwards. >> Yeah. >> [clears throat] >> 45 and 61 are separate properties. >> Yeah. Yes. Yes. All right. Um, that's why so um, are we in agreement to keep

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the enforcement until they fully comply? >> Of course. >> Okay. It's unanimous then. Uh, So, um, regard this go with 61 Edward Road. Um, Rick, tell us um, what uh, what is the outcome of of of

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the order that we that we sent over? You have the information about that? >> Yeah. Uh, so the order was sent out on June 12th. Uh, the requirement was that they provide a plan for the board on how they uh, would clean the property up by June

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22nd, which has passed and we still haven't received any kind of a plan regarding the cleanup and to remove remove the um, refuse and debris from the property within 30 days of the receipt of the order. Um, so they did attempt to deliver it. Uh, it was

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refused on June 15th and returned to our office and um, and so June 15th would be the date that um, that 30 days would would start. So, basically they have uh, just a a couple

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of more days, three two two more days to comply with the order and if they don't then you guys have to decide where you want to go from from there. >> Any discussion about um, 61 Edward Road?

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>> I didn't tell the discuss to be doing, so because I was thinking of having a work session with the the conservation committee to both of both of both of the bodies to come up with with

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either a plan or a resolution to get this resolved because I mean I don't think it'll be wise to I think the best route is to both bodies come up with with some sort of a resolution on this

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before going to the next step. >> There isn't a resolution to clean up the property. >> So so ultimately that's it, but you know, we can't go out there and you know, hold his hand and force him to do it. And so conservation commission had issued a similar order to to clean it up

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because of the proximity to wetlands. And so I think it probably does make sense to get together with them and and you know, make it a a joint effort to try to gain compliance. And you know, ultimately that might be filing in court, but if that is what's going to happen, then you really should file in

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conjunction with the conservation commission. >> That's catching two days, isn't it? >> What's [clears throat] that? >> Catching two days. >> So you know, it doesn't necessarily have to be two days, but if you're going to continue to enforce it, then you need to move forward. And really at this point your your next step is to

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either come up with some alternative plans to get the attention of the owner and compel them to clean it up or assist them in cleaning it up if you were able to get some volunteers together or to to file in court, which would require permission from the select board

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to use town counsel for that purpose. >> So I would I would propose a motion to Can I get a motion to to to have a joint work session with the conservation committee regarding

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business matter 61 Edward Road enforcement discussion. >> I second that motion. >> You're making a motion. >> Oh, I'm making a motion. All right, I'll make a motion. Working on joint effort with the environmental

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committee >> with the conservation >> conservation committee on in regards to 61 Edwards Road enforcement. And I'll second that motion. >> Okay. Any further discussion? >> Nope. >> Nope. All in favor say aye. >> Aye. >> Very well.

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Uh so >> And just to clarify so I know what I'm doing. Christian, you said is is Carla going to reach out to the committee? >> He was going to reach out to to mention but she will reach out to

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to the chair of conservation so that and now that we have a vote on on Now that we have a vote on on having a work session with conservation, now she will have to reach out to

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conservation on behalf of the board of health having selected a day and dates or day and time that we can have a work session together. >> Okay. >> Okay. Are we going to need any time constraint on that? >> Yeah, it

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it it doesn't need to be right at the end of enforcement but obviously you can't stretch it out months because at that point the judge looks at it and says well why haven't you been chasing them? Well, we will follow up on it. >> All right. We might have to have a special meeting. Who's the >> That's the enforcement >> That's the work session.

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>> That's that's the enforce that's that's the work session that we're going to have where um Ideally ideally Um, if if um even for the I don't know if if it is a work session, it's not a public um

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event, right, Rick? >> I don't believe so. I I also don't think it can be a quorum. So, it would have to be if typically it's a representative of the board that's in that work session. >> Okay. >> I'd like to be there, but whatever, you know. >> Oh, very well. God wants to vote.

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All right, let's >> We just got to >> move forward, but that's all I I went to work session, but >> We [clears throat] talked about >> So, I don't You know if the commission is three members or five members. >> I don't know if it is three or five members. >> So, you you guys are a three-member

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board, so typically it would be your one member that that will be working on work session. >> Yeah, so there will only be one. It can it can be >> Yeah, you could have a public meeting, but at that point you need to get it posted and and everybody can be here and open to the public. >> It will be one or two members. >> One member, yeah, cuz once you get two,

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it's a quorum and it's got to be a public posted meeting. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah, so how do you want to participate on that work session? >> I'd be more than happy to. >> So, we going to we we do we appoint that Mr. Arsenault to work that that

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uh uh uh uh >> [clears throat] >> So, I will appoint Mr. Arsenault to to represent the Board of Health on that work session with the Conservation Committee. And

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um and whichever resolution uh uh I will delegate that trusting on on Mr. Arsenault's judgment to um make any decisions regarding or any right uh any

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decisions regarding what resolution will will be on our behalf. >> Correct, yeah. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Okay, very well. Um >> VFW Pole 6538 food service permit.

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Um Dear members of the Board of Health and residents of Townsend, today the Board of Health is discussing the status of the food service permit for VFW Pole 6538. Over the past several months, the board

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and its staff have made numerous efforts to assist the organization in renewing its permit and achieving compliance with the requirements of the Massachusetts food code and local sanitary regulations. >> [clears throat] >> The following actions have been taken by

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the Board of Health and its staff to obtain compliance. September 25th, 2025, food service permit renewal paperwork was mailed to the VFW via regular mail. Food service permits expire annually on

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October 30th. As a non-profit organization, the VFW is not charged a permit fee. The renewal process requires confirmation or updates to contact information and submission to the current ServeSafe food manager and allergen awareness certificate, if

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applicable. Late November, early December 2025, a second renewal notice was mailed via regular mail after no renewal application had been received. February 2nd, 2026, Bridget Miss Bridget

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Pond Bran, senior food inspector, emailed the VFW in an effort to obtain the required renewal documentation. March 4th, 2026, Mr. Rick McCalf, agent for the town of for the Townsend Board of Health, visited the

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VFW in person and provided renewal paperwork directly to Natalie Call. He advised that the paperwork should be completed and returned as soon as possible as the establishment was operating without a valid permit.

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June 4th, 2026, Mr. Rick Metcalf encountered Ms. Cole at Town and Town Hall and attempted to provide another copy of the renewal paperwork. Although she declined to wait for a copy to be made, she again

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emphasized the need He again emphasized the need for immediate action to bring the establishment into compliance. June 12, 2026, Mr. Rick Metcalf mailed a letter to to the VFW via both first

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class first class and certified mail enclosing the renewal application and requesting submission by June 22nd, 2026. The certified mailing was returned as unclaimed on June 29, 2026.

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The first class mailing was not returned. Based on discussions with Bridget Pond Brad, senior food inspector, the following items remain necessary to process the food service permit renewal. Completed food service permit renewal

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application, current ServeSafe food manager certification, and the current allergen awareness certification, but I was I learned today that the the current allergen awareness certification is done, correct? >> It's done.

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>> Uh the board must now determine the appropriate course of action regarding the VFW's continued operation without a valid food service permit. The options under consideration that I propose to this board is

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granting a final 7-day compliance period for the VFW to submit all requirement documentation and come into full compliance with applicable sanitary regulations or ordering the suspension of food service

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operations until the establishment complies with with all permit permitting and certification requirements. The board's primary responsibility is to protect public health and ensure that all food establishments operate in

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accordance with applicable laws and regulations. The board welcomes discussion and any comments before reaching a decision. I open the floor to have a discussion about the permits and Rick, if you can

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before give us any any further updates regarding >> It's Sorry, thank you. You covered everything up to date. So, the only piece that had changed since since we had talked on Thursday is that we we do have the color current allergy

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awareness certificate. So, it would be the the completed food service permit renewal application and the serve safe food manager certificate that we are still waiting for. Natalie called did submit [clears throat] a temporary application

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for an event and and Bridget ultimately told her you just need your actual permit. We can't issue this temporary permit without you having a current permit and that current permit would cover that that temporary event. Um, but she did submit with that

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uh the allergen awareness training as well as a a serve safe food man uh food handler certificate. We need We need a food manager, not a food handler. That's the incorrect class.

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>> I spoke with them. I I emailed them the link to go online and get it done. You can do it in one evening. >> Okay. >> And it's Serve Safe. >> Is it an online thing? So, then >> And if you're talking to him, you can do it in person. >> If Paul's talking to him, I can give you

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right now a copy of the renewal paperwork. If you want to handle it for them. >> All right. Um but I didn't tell them the manager. I said the Serve Safe. >> Yeah, so it's uh there's two separate ones. So, the one that she needs is the food manager. >> All right. >> All right. >> We'll see what the members want to get

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it. Just to have multiple people. >> Which would >> Yeah, bad idea. >> But that's the renewal application. >> That's the renewal application. >> I'll take that. >> My concern with this situation is this is that um they're not in compliance.

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And um and Rick, correct me if I'm wrong, we I mean anything could happen uh on the on the their um under Right now if anything happens, I mean and and we

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are and we have to make a decision to to have them um comply and I think that from from the timeline that I shared with you from September until what, July? >> Yeah.

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>> I think that um we we need we we have to um [clears throat] have make a decision to either and I and and I propose uh the emotion granting a 7-day um period

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for for them to comply. Or if this board determines order the suspension of food service operations immediately. Or after the 7 days if they don't comply, then um

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we would order the food the the the suspension of food service operations. >> What's your thought? >> Yeah, like Christian said, that the effort been more than I have ever certainly had to do. And so, you know, I

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think that given them this last opportunity to try to comply before you do with order them to to cease operations is is reasonable. Um it puts both the board and the VFW in a

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tough position when they're operating without permits. Like Christian said, you know, if somebody did happen to get sick, I would assume liabilities would fall on on on both of us. And at this point, you know, the board is well aware that they're continuing to [clears throat] operate with a permit, knowingly continuing to

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operate without a permit. And um I think your your job as a board of health would be to not allow them to do that. >> Yeah. So, so they've been working almost a year without a permit. >> Uh just about, yeah. Yeah, since November 1st.

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>> The members didn't know about this. So, for some reason, everybody is jumping on the wagon trying to get it fixed up. So, we we we have 7 days. And this is just this is just some paperwork. >> It's just paperwork, yeah. So, there is no fee because they're a non-profit. We're not allowed to charge them a fee.

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And so, it's it's just all paperwork. >> And they've always had a permit except for this last time. >> Uh it's always >> management license expired. >> Yeah. So, they have to take this >> Well, that's what I understand. >> Yeah, but you have to do them periodically to renew them.

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Organizations like that, the person in charge it seems to change regularly, which is one of the tough parts. >> But they've been up on but been up on their paperwork in the past. >> Yeah, I not that they've gotten it in immediately, but it certainly hasn't taken that long, yeah. >> Okay. All right.

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So, I feel 7 days is reasonable. I think we can probably >> Can I have a motion then to to grant a final 7-day compliance period to the the to submit all requirement documentation and come into full compliance with

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applicable because applicable sanitary regulations >> They're going to have to do it again in September, right? Is that what you're saying? >> They'll have to renew again at the end of by the end of October. >> They'll have all of October, so they'll just fill this out. >> Okay. >> October >> Yeah.

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>> And ServSafe is good for >> Uh I think it's at least 2 years. >> Oh, it's 2 years? Okay. So, once they do it, they should have no problem doing it again. >> thing >> I think it's 10. I had ServSafe it was 10 years. Yeah, okay. Yeah, it was the ServSafe person. >> I don't think it's 10 years. >> They dropped it.

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>> I want to say it's it's 2 years. Uh >> It's 2 years? Okay. >> I'm pretty sure. >> All right, fair enough. >> Yeah, I I agree. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Can we get a Can I get a motion to grant them 7 days a final 7-day compliance period so that

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the VFW to submit all required documentation >> And 7 days from today or tomorrow? >> So, it would be from the date of uh notification >> the service. >> So, you know, >> And the other thing is that we have to

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it can't go to certified mail because it was returned, so we have to ask either a constable or um or sheriff to serve our order this order to to write write >> Yes, a legal service would be either

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through certified mail or by a person that is can serve paperwork like a constable or a sheriff or a a constable. >> All right. Not us. >> Not us. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> All right. Well, let's do the 7 days and maybe we can just get this taken care of

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before we even have to go that far. >> Okay. >> So, >> So, >> Make a motion. I'll make a motion to grant them 7 days to comply or the the VFW here in Townsend Post 6538

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um and if they don't comply within 7 days, we're going to uh, what do they call it? Shut their license down. >> Suspension. Suspension of food service operation. I'll second that motion, Mr. >> Okay.

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>> I have a quick question. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> With I know they do cheeseburger Wednesdays. Is it is >> They do, um, Thursday at the common. They they raise money over there. They cook burgers and hot dogs. >> Yeah, but that's that's that's different. Their other permit down there

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doesn't do anything. >> It's the the same. So, it would their permit for the establishment would cover it on over here. And >> All right. That's what Bridget told me today. >> Okay. All right. >> All right. >> And before we vote, I want to I want the public to know and everybody to know that,

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um, the only north, and I think my uh our our my board members would agree, our north is the safety of our constituents. >> Oh, yeah. >> And >> Of course. >> Um, and this is nothing personal. We we

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just want them to comply. And um, and and and and we've done in good faith our effort of of of having them to comply. So, that being said, all those in favor, say I.

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>> I. >> I. >> Okay. >> I have one more question. >> Yeah. >> You you you you you mentioned about temporary permits. If someone is going to function down there. >> Yeah. >> So, if they do if they're up to snuff and they have their permit in the end, somebody that goes in there has to have a temporary one or they can work there?

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>> It depending on how they operate. So, I would say that the majority of them probably have a temporary one. Uh, some of those food trucks do have year-round operational permits. And so, they don't need to get them for individual events. They are supposed to make us aware if they're attending an event. So, if

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somebody happened to get sick, we can trace it all back and do the proper investigation. So it really depends on the license that the establishment has through us. >> So Rick, regarding enforcing the order of delivering the order, that will be

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will we do it through certified mail again then? >> It's up to to you guys how you'd like to do it. Um >> Because I'm concerned that if >> Do we do it through certified mail? >> If we because they if it came returned >> If it got returned >> The last one I sent, which wasn't an order, it was a request, we did send it

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first class mail and certified mail. The certified mail was returned as unclaimed, which means that it's a PO it goes to a PO box. And I guess is nobody went to the PO box and the first class mail is likely still sitting in there, too. And and so you know, they I don't know

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how often they check their their their post office box. >> Who? Okay. >> So do we agree on having through a constable then? >> We would have to. How expensive is that? >> Uh I think it's around $75 or so.

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>> And do we have to hit the right person? >> So Townsend had at least last I knew that there was a constable locally. >> So we'll go down but do we have to hit the right person at the V? We can't just hand it to just anybody down there. >> No, it can't be a patron, but it's got to be an employee.

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Okay. As long as they're an employee that's you know, there regularly. >> Oh, somebody there from the bar can do it. >> Yeah. [clears throat] >> Can we have a motion to then to refer the the the the

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we file an order for for the 7-day compliance via constable? >> I >> Call motion to do the constable to deliver the 7-day order order. Also going to enforce this order.

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>> Okay. No further discussion. All in favor say I. >> I. >> So carried. Well, so it's through It's going to be through the constable then. Uh that's something that Carla would have to um work on. >> Yeah, she made arrangements with the sheriff's office last time and I can't

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remember the circumstances, but I think the constable was unavailable and that's why she had to go that route. Um but I'll I'll talk to her about it and >> Either constable or sheriff. The thing is that somebody >> They have to They have to be, you know,

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certified to provide legal service. >> Okay. Okay. Um we have uh 8 Old Meeting uh 1.680 Meeting House Road upgrade with LUI,

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Rick. >> And um Evan Carloni is on as well. He's the uh designer. >> Mr. Hi. Welcome, sir. >> Thank you. >> This is an upgrade uh a septic system, correct? >> Correct. Yeah, so um existing house with

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a failing system um that they're just looking to replace for the same number of bedrooms. And um the the one request they have uh this is a Presby system and so uh we've seen it a few times. The state has um

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approval letters for each of these innovative alternative technologies. Uh one of the things that the Presby system gets in an upgrade situation is the ability to request a two-foot groundwater offset. Typically, we see the the one-foot under a normal local upgrade approval. Um but this technology

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has has the ability to request two, uh which is what he's doing. And so, Evan, if if you don't mind kind of explaining the the the thought process. >> Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So, in this in this one actually for um 8 Old Meeting House Road, uh we're actually we just

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have a one-foot uh request. Um Right, the approval letter's is to two, but in this one I think the next one we're we're requesting two in this one we're requesting one. Um The main reason being I mean we still I believe we're still um

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mounded a bit here but it does help to reduce the mounding but really the main reason is that we slope down from south to north here and this whole neighborhood is on a slope and so we do have some issues of some breakout issues here

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and so we do we have a barrier that's proposed in one corner. So basically the reduction to the water table by one foot so we're providing three feet to the water table has to do mostly with making breakout and

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reducing issues of runoff from the mounded system onto the neighboring property. >> So he's talking about right here so the property is on a slope natural topography comes this direction and so he's got

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100 grade over the system to to catch that existing contour. This is that barrier he was talking about. This is the finished 98 contour and then cuz he's within that five feet of a property line he's got a swell coming through so there really is no

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more room to grade in this direction. >> But what is let me ask this because what is the difference and I don't know if or or the engineer can explain what is the difference from the traditional system if you can put it that way versus what he is proposing. What what is regarding

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the technology if if I may know? >> Do you want to take it up Tommy too? >> Sure. Sure yeah yeah absolutely. So the state has has approval letters for all these different IA technologies and this one the Presby and there's there's

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a couple of others that are what called a patented sand filter system. So a pipe and stone system which is all of what title five really speaks to all the separations and what not have to do with the pipe and stone the

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separation to the water table and and basically a pipe and stone is just delivering the the the effluent to the natural soil. It's more of a delivery mechanism than is a treatment mechanism where the these patented sand filters have shown through testing that they do at the test center in the Cape

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that there is actually a level of treatment that does happen before the wastewater leaves the sand or by the time it leaves the sand the the C33 system sand and enters into the natural soil that there's a certain level that

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the wastewater has already been treated. So really it's taking the brunt and the burden off of the natural soil by treating the wastewater to a certain degree before it even hits the natural soil. So that's I'm under the impression that's why we have these these

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approvals from the state that allow for certain sizing reductions and reductions to the water table. >> Because I think from the time that I've been on the board of of health this is the first system that we have like with this technology right? >> There's been a couple of them there

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aren't a ton in town just because you guys have a lot of sand and gravel and larger parcels but but the Presby system is useful in certain situations. Yeah one is the increased treatment the other is uh

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that you you can build it on a slope and I don't can't remember if Evan took advantage of that here. Yeah but but you can build it out up to a 25% slope. So there's certainly advantages to this technology and and other technologies that are available but this one is proven like Evan said at

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the >> [clears throat] >> Barnstable test center on the Cape they they put all these systems in the ground, they monitor them, they they test the effluent, and uh, this particular system has has proven to provide some additional level of treatment. >> All right, that's interesting. [clears throat]

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>> It was a little bit >> If I may to the the Presby system on a slope and it is um, definitely leapfrogs a pipe and stone as well because of the breakout elevation, which is at the bottom of the system sand, where with a pipe and stone, the breakout elevation is [clears throat] at

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the top of the pea stone layer that's above the distribution pipe or at the top of the distribution pipe if you use fabric. So, really the swing in the breakout elevation, which we have to hold 15 ft away from the system, it comes down by at least a foot, sometimes 2 ft, depends

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on the system configuration of the pipe and stone. So, on slopes, the Presby um, it really wins out. >> Does anyone have any public questions or anything? >> Any questions, comments?

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Okay, can I get a motion to approve then at 8 Old Meeting House Road upgrade with LUA? >> I call a motion to approve 8 Old Meeting House Road >> with a What he said. >> Uh, upgrade with LUA.

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>> Yeah, with a local upgrade approval local upgrade approval. >> And I'll second that motion. >> Okay. Um, and no further discussion then, any All those in favor say aye. >> Aye. >> Very well.

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>> Thank you. >> Okay. 1.7 to Bayberry Lane um, same as agreed with LUA 2. >> All right. >> This is Evans as well. >> All right. >> You got all the tricky ones, guys.

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>> Yeah, probably not supposed to be in here, huh? Where is this? >> Bayberry, yeah. >> Yeah, this one was was for sale. >> Oh, yeah. >> So, I'm just kind of pointing everything out here, so well location is here. Uh he also shows

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two other well radiuses from the neighbor, so one right here and one right here, which kind of pushed this out into this area as well as this wetland area here. We've got two of the flags shown, that WF1 and WF6. Uh that would be the 50-ft buffer and

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this is the 100-ft buffer. And so because of that well buffers and the wetland buffers you're kind of pushed out into this this area that's currently wooded right now. >> [clears throat] >> All right. Uh subject tank dual compartment, 1,000-gallon pump chamber to pump over

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to the field. >> All right. >> All right. And then I you you want to uh present the request to them. >> Yeah. Yep, so this this is um same system type. Um we've got the tank and

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pump chamber both um monolithic to to um you know, try to mitigate any issues in the future. Um this one it requests the 2-ft reduction to the water table. Uh we had a very high water table in this area in the woods. Um we were at

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2 ft, so uh at that we would we're requesting the 2-ft reduction to the water table so that we can there's still going to be quite a bit of tree removal, but uh the idea is to just keep the mounding down to a certain degree, uh minimize tree

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removal tree removal as much as possible. >> Okay. And you know, same same price B system here, too. >> Okay. Any questions? Comments? >> Okay. Can I have a motion to approve two

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Bayberry Lane upgrade LUA? >> I call a motion to approve two Bayberry two Bayberry Lane upgrade with LUA. >> I'll second that. >> Okay. All those in favor say I. I. >> Very well. >> Thank you very much. Have a great night.

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>> Thank you. You, too, sir. Thank you for coming. >> Thank you. Bye-bye. >> Uh Let's see that we have a 1.8 police police truck street strain use restriction regulations. Driving use

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restriction regulations. >> Yeah. >> It's [clears throat] going to be continued pending on town council's review. Uh Carla sent an email this morning and and they're still under review, so uh

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hopefully by some by our next meeting that that could be it'll be done, but it's going to be continued on our next meeting then. On 7/27. >> Yeah. >> Uh Rick, let me ask you, do you have by

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any chance that copy on 1.9 the memo of understanding? Uh >> I don't. So, unless it's in here, that's everything Carla gave to me. >> Oops. My bad. >> The memo of understanding, so

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it's a it's for her role regarding the pace as you throw program, the enterprise account, and um I think I'm going to make. The same thing that we've ordered last year. Um we have to do it like every

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year uh for um budget purposes. Uh can you check um See here. So, while Rick gets the checks on uh that, we we're going to jump on 1.10

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invoices. Um I'll read here. Um How much is recycling center? Uh fiscal year 2026 Board of Health illegal dumping. Uh

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that is $220 from fiscal year 26. Um Let me see if I can find the receipts here. Um >> Recycling center money. Does that

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money get managed or does that go into general fund? >> That um is my understanding that there's a um there there's an account for for that because that's why as it's has been said that the recycling center is self-sufficient.

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>> Okay. Yeah, they run their own. There was >> [clears throat] >> it does not go into the general fund. >> Okay. All right. >> So, apparently there was a cleaning for illegal dumping, that's $220. Um Staples pay as you throw expenses, $57.17.

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Um Shaw's and so and uh Shaw JW Shaw and Son. Um Pay it pay as you throw expenses, $57,693.20. Um, I have the receipt that I saw the

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receipt here. I believe. Um, Betty Miles from the General Revolving Fund, $94.31 for fiscal year 26. Um,

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Unitil for the landfill fuel energy, $87.84. Um, we have G.W. Shaw & Sons for the General Revolving for uh uh $703.65.

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East Coast Recycling, $676,75. For fiscal year 27. Um, we have here G.W. Shaw's um RDP grant, $590. Uh Tough Stuff Recycling RDP grant,

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$1,889. Uh Sherri Amadon duplicate payment from pay as you throw sticker fees, $150. We have Nate Cruza duplicate payment pay as you throw sticker fees, $150.

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Um waste stickers RDP grant, $154.74. Weston & Sampson landfill engineering, um $3,611.95. Totaling a total of $65,276.86. If you want to please take a look at it at the bills. Um >> Just want to look at the summary.

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>> Yep. >> Weston & Sampson >> That's the other half if I'm not mistaken, correct? >> My My guess is so Weston & Sampson's contracted to do the gas and groundwater monitoring for the landfill and provide

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the required reports to MassDEP and I believe they also do your third-party inspection of the landfill and the recycling center that's also required by MassDEP. >> Shouldn't that be a revolving fund? It's part of the town. >> It's under the Board of Health budget. >> It's not a revolving budget.

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>> Yes. >> Sure. All right. It's worth a try. >> You can try with Gerbil. >> Pretty people read. All right. You say anything you want. Question. North Coast Recycling

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Those are the pickups when they they were overflowing over there with um mattresses, appliances, they they they were literally overflowing. So that's what I think some of those fees are. These Coast Recycling and stuff.

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>> All right. >> Can I have a motion to uh approve um um invoices for fiscal year 2026 of $65,276.86.

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>> I call a motion to approve fiscal year 2026 expenses of $85,276.86. >> $65,000 Oh, sorry. But then I just said >> Is there 85? >> I just saved the count. 20 grand. >> All right. So I'll approve $65,000

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$276.86. >> I second that. >> All right. all those in favor say I. I. Very well. Um I will um Since um

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for the memo of understanding for the health administrator of the patients and so enterprise fund that will be continued for our next meeting since I don't have the copies and I want you to read um to have I want you to read the memo

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as it was written because um our town administrator is asking for approval from the board of health so that um it it can go to the select board and the union and get the ball rolling for uh for the stipend for

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uh for Carla um our health administrator. >> Okay. >> Um minutes will be continued on 7 27 2026. And our next meeting will be 7 27 2026. >> Yeah.

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>> Any questions before we wrap up? >> Nothing I can think of. >> Okay. Do I have a motion to adjourn tonight's Board of Health meeting? >> I call a motion to adjourn tonight's Board of Health meeting. >> I'll second. >> Okay, all those in favor say I.

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>> I. >> I. Very well, meeting adjourned at 7:05 p.m.