Welcome to the Towns and Border Health meeting today at 6 o'clock p.m. Uh, roll call. Dr. Christian Roman Ramirez, chairman. >> Uh, Don National Clerk here.
>> Um, we um in regarding additions and deletions, we we will have a joint meeting with the finance committee and the and the board of selectmen. Um
so since um while we wait for the for the members of the select board to arrive, we going to I'm going to move um 1.4 um uh which is 1A DY road in construction. If they're ready while uh
while we wait for the select board to be here for the meeting. >> Sure. And um Christian uh 1.6 6 and 1.7 are going to be deleted. >> 1 point which one's going to be deleted? >> 1.6 and 1.7.
>> Okay. And before we continue, is there anybody recording this meeting? >> Yes, we're in. >> Okay. Thank you, Cindy. >> We're also going to be um continuing item 1.9 minutes next >> when
the next meeting. >> Okay. And we will 1.9 the minutes will be continued on the next meeting then. Okay. How fun. >> All right. So, this is a um proposed new construction lot. It's the uh parcel
that just got auctioned off at downtown auction across from um the police station. So on the corner of Dudley and Route 13. Um because of the lot size, they're only looking to build a twobedroom house. Um it is within a um
zone 2 public water supply uh the crossroad well. Um so they're limited to one bedroom per 10,000 ft of land. Uh the parcels just uh 21,94 square ft. Um so as part of the approval, they'll have to record on the
D twobedroom restriction before certificate compliance will be issued. Um but the system itself is fairly straightforward. Uh it'll be served by town water. Um there already is a um a curb stop installed on the property and it'll be a 2500gallon tank that'll
gravity feed to two uh 42 ft trenches. uh the systems in full compliance with title five and and towns regulations. So there are no variances being requested. >> So this is the proposed new construction, correct? >> Yeah, that's the proposed house right there.
>> Okay. Questions. >> Okay. Uh, can I get a motion to um to approve 1A Dudley Road uh new construction? >> I make a motion to approve 1A Dudley
Road septic system. >> Okay, I'll second that. All in favor say I. >> I. Wow. and we move forward. Okay. So,
can I get a motion to adjourn health meeting to continue after the joint meeting that we're going to have with the select select board and the finance committee? >> I make a motion to adjourn to >> continue >> continue board health meeting until
after the meeting with board. >> Okay. All in favor say I. I. Okay. Well, uh, can I get a motion to invite the select board and the finance committee to um to a joint meeting to the joint meeting? >> I will make a motion to invite the
finance committee and the select meeting. Okay. >> Second to a meeting joint meeting. >> Very well. It's 6:05 p.m. and we will and we will start the joint meeting with the board of selectment and the finance committee.
And this will now we'll call that a finance committee meeting to order at 6:05 p.m. Um uh roll call attendance. >> Carol is present. >> Sam Grant present. >> Dave Walker present. >> Jerus present. >> Kathleen Spett present.
>> John Hayes present. But now we have a quorum. So we're good to go. Um the we've already covered the uh recording of the meeting. Um so we are good to continue to the work session and >> Mr. Chairman.
>> Okay Shiffron I'll call the joint meeting of the board of health with finance and select board to order at 5 6:07 p.m. Roll call present.
>> Veronica present present. >> Okay. Uh we we thank you for all being here present. Um the border health wants to start with the questions that the select board had
presented to us on December 9th regarding what will be the purpose of of this meeting. And they presented five um questions. Do they have the packet? Yes.
Do you guys have packages? They're right over here. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Can you share? >> I also have financials which I can probably share with Christian.
>> Okay. Have one more share. Okay. So the five questions that the select board have presented and we can discuss item by item is the question number one. What period of time is
covered with the oh this is the the the the joint meeting is regarding the curbside trash and recycling update with the select with the select board and with the finance committee. Uh and the first question was proposed to the board of health. What period of time is
covered with the $125 people paid for trash pickup fiscal year till June 3026 or calendar year from September 2nd 1st 2025 to August 31st 2026?
Um the enterprise fund paid for July and August as an extension of the contract and September and September 2025 to June 2026 under the new contract. But expenses for the entire fiscal year were
included in the setting of up to $125 rate. Okay. >> So it ends at the end of June. >> So it ends at the end of June, not the end of August. So when people pay due September 1st, it was for the time of
the fiscal year, not for a calendar year. I'm not so sure people understand that. when I think they think they're paying through the end of August. >> It was very clear on the flyer that the program had started July 1st and that we
were giving July and August as leeway for people in the summer and it was going to be an annual fee July to July. We we were giving people July and August because we didn't know if people were going to be out of town. um some people aren't even here for the whole summer.
They're they're going to leave and they're going to come back in October and find out that the trash program is completely changed. So, and we also didn't want to disrupt um people on vacation um if there's a heat wave and um they're away for 2 weeks.
>> So, people will be paying their their payment will be due July 1st, not September 1st next year. And so I think that needs to be made perfectly clear to the community because I think a lot of
people thought that their 125 covered them from September 1st to the end of August 2026 when in fact it covered them from September 1st through the end of June 2026.
>> So it covered them from July 1st to July 1st. We just gave the town two months to sign up for the program. >> That's one way to look at it. But if you ask people when their next payment >> I've met with every single person that
has come in and we are making them very well aware that it is annual. We we are very much making >> and that annual is fiscal year. >> Yes. Yes. And we're also going to be sending out our flyer um which will be going out and we're waiting to get a
little more demographics as far as how much tonnage and whatnot we've been receiving, but we will have flyers that we will be going out to every household, not just the subscribers to the program to every household in town. >> Okay. And if the select board is
pleases, we can also put a reminder on the border house website with that clarification just in case uh that situation is just to clear the air about that. Is that okay? >> That's a good idea. >> Okay. >> If if I may. Yes.
>> Um I believe we're getting ready to send out the tax bills for the next year, a sufferer that could go in the tax bills that will go to every taxpayer. >> Absolutely. already discussed it. >> Okay, very good. Yeah. >> Okay.
Uh any questions, concerns so that we can move forward? Okay. Uh question number two. Recognizing that the tipping fee, expense, and pay as you throwback fees, the income must be monitored, at what
point does the board of health expect to set the next rate for trash pickup covered by the enterprise fund? Note, please consider the fact the first two months of the fiscal year 2026 were covered by stabilization.
The board of health will review the data and set rates for fiscal year 2027 as part of the enterprise fund budgeting process. The bud the budget for the enterprise fund is due on the select board 120 days before the start of the
fiscal year which will be March 2026. Perfect. Okay. Any comments, any questions about that? Okay, next question. Given that the trash program is not supported by tax
dollars, how will a deficit in the enterprise fund will be covered by the board of health and the trash takers? My question to the select board is is regarding what are what deficit are you referring to? We have not established
that there we we have not established that there is a deficit. In fact, we are operating with a surplus up to date and a deficit will be factored into the rate established for the following year. This was confirmed by town council at a June
18th uh consult. And I don't know if the accountant can give us information about how how how are we on the enterprise account. >> Hi everybody. Thank you. Um I hope
everyone's doing well. Uh so if there is a deficit at year end, we can't end the year with a deficit. But like you mentioned, we're not in deficit right now. or not. It doesn't look like we're in danger of being in deficit from what I can see looking at the numbers, but it
would have to be raised on the recap or covered by available funds. And then in the next year, as you mentioned, you can set your rates to cover what you think your annual costs will be to be self-supporting. Hope that helps with everybody where we
have to be accounting wise. So can I ask a question? Uh so Elizabeth you had provided to us in November which is what we use for these questions >> a five months uh waste enterprise
da budget it's it's titled solid waste and recycling enterprise fund fiscal year 2026 monthly projections. I guess my question and this shows a deficit of uh $15,000
and of course we don't have the funds from the purple bags or the tonnage that go you know the amount we pay for tonnage and so what I want to make sure is that this and it goes by month from
July for the entire fiscal year I want to make sure that that um that spreadsheet it's a great spreadsheet and it will project when the funds if they do go into deficit. I understand that at
this point in time there is no deficit. Everybody paid for the entire amount. The variables are the amount that gets paid out and the amount that we get from purple bags. So I just want to ensure that this um
projection is updated and that the board of health is kept apprised of it so that when those monies start being decided for fiscal year 27, the amount that
needs to be paid on July 1st covers any deficit from this year and covers the entire next year Because as um Carlos said, July and August were paid out of stabilization.
That was like what 120K or so >> 16 came out. >> 116 came out. >> You used 160. >> Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were talking about the two months that we >> No, it went 160 supported this program.
Correct. That's 100 >> that was not included in the 125 that people paid for 10 months of collection. So, I I just want to make sure because
the town does not have the I don't anticipate the funds in the general fund to support trash, nor should they because the vote was it to be covered entirely through what the board of health can
raise from the trash takers in the program. So, I just want to make sure I like this spreadsheet. I think it gives us a good idea of what's happening and I want to see to it that it is monitored regularly so that there's a realistic
picture of what people are going to need to pay for trash due July 1st. >> Yeah. And and I I am going to be um providing the board of health regularly with the reports on a monthly basis and the detail
revenues that are coming in. We're tracking it. >> I have a close eye on it. Sorry. >> And if the select board wants to see it, you'll send it to us as well. >> Oh my god. Of course. >> Thank you.
>> Well, I guess my my question would be, can we get a a version of this spreadsheet that has the actuals as they come in? So, like we have an actuals. So, can we get the actuals for August, September, and October? I understand November may not be fully tallied yet,
but then when when that's tallied, can we get a version that has the actuals filled in? >> Yeah, I you have a detailed PDF, but you know, as as luck would have it, while you guys were getting set up, I quickly dumped everything into an Excel spreadsheet I can send out to you all.
>> Thank you. You're welcome. >> And I can keep it updated and get it to you regularly. >> Yeah, that would be great. I mean, cuz this this spreadsheet, I think, is what we >> what we want a monthly report that basically is this >> just filled in with the actuals for that
month, >> of course. And I'll copy in the select board when I send it to you so everybody's on the same page. >> That would be great. And the finance committee. >> Yes. >> And the finance committee. Sorry. Yes. I didn't mean to leave you guys out of it.
>> We're good. >> Okay. >> We get an email. >> Okay. Okay, let's go to question number three. Uh, did that number four? Um, the tonnage figures for September and October, you
have on your on your packets if Carla can share that information so that people that are watching us too that don't have the the documents can um and they benefit from from the tonnage. And
I want to make it clear to the select board and to everybody that it is not the board of health intention for next year to get any money from from stabilization from anywhere. We are
we we we we our plan is to come up with a with a strong plan to to get the monies but we it's not our plan to get it from stabilization or any any part of of of of the tax levy.
>> Um before we move move on to four and five could you answer the question for number three. How will a deficit in the enterprise fund be covered by the board of health and the trash takers in in your answer that's written here?
I'm looking at this. So, a deficit would be factored into the rate established for the following year. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> All right. Thank you. All right. Four and five figures. Um they're they're right there.
We've been monitoring them as we had the trash contract which was all inclusive and it didn't matter how much tonnage we had through the town it was being disposed of as a monthly rate. Um that has dropped by 50 to 60%.
the contract that we had for the two months um for the municipal dumpsters which were included into the enterprise account, meaning all the sports fields, the highway department, the cemeteries,
the the town hall, all all those. They also were included in that flat rate of $58,000. It's unfortunate that we don't have a spreadsheet for the municipal dumpsters and how much they're actually picking up
because they just don't do that tonnage. It's not in this. There's I I've been working with them. It's going to be next to impossible for them. Maybe in the next year if they get a better truck, they might be able to go out and do it. But the way that that contract is set up
is it's usually gone around with other other um towns and and services. So um the town has entered into a proposal for the municipal dumpsters as a flat rate. We don't know really how much that has
decreased for the tonnage for the town. We only have two months of tonnage reports. In order to give you a factual rate, we really need 3 to four months of tonnage reports. And you're coming into the biggest time of the year. November, December, and January are notoriously
high other than July. With the July 4th holidays, the tonnage is going to be exceptionally higher than usual. So, do we really want to use those numbers? We don't know. This is a pilot program. We're all on the same gerbble wheel. We're we're learning. We're gathering as
much information as we can and we're acting accordingly to make sure that it's an affordable uh program for for the residents and the and the town. >> Could you show me where the numbers are for the amount that we paid for disposal
of trash? My understanding was that instead of it being incorporated into the contract, the town would be paying for the disposal of that tonnage. How much did we pay for um September and October
to have our trash disposed of? >> The the trash pickup for the two-month extension was $58,000. I >> I understand that. I'm talking about September and October. When we moved in the July and August pickup were all
inclusive, >> right? After that, we were paying for Shaw to pick up in town, and then we were paying for the disposal of the trash, the tonnage. Where are those
figures in this big thing? I want to know how much did we pay for September to dump our trash, >> meaning what's not under contract with Shaw, >> and how much did we pay in October, the town? >> Yes. But are you talking about the the
municipal trash incl uh or >> No, I'm talking about the um the trash that the trash takers in town are paying the thing that purple bags hopefully off the September and October tage is right
there. the recycling, >> which pageages. Yes. If if if you look at your package on the second page, >> you will see the November 10th horn article. Um, bills payable. It shows DW
Shaw October and September. It shows the amount of recycling and the amount of trash. It also has the backup that if you go in there, you will see every single day that they went through and the amount of tonnage that they were picking up. >> Sorry, I don't see I see on the first
page that I have, I have Shaw's total invoice 56,000. Is that what we pay for September? >> It's about the fifth fifth page in here. This is September.
Where's the tentage? 39,000. >> September 30th. >> I'm not seeing this. I don't know if I have a different packet from you guys. You're missing. >> Oh, the pages here. >> Yep.
>> That's how much you paid. 125. >> So, it was 115 for >> September's amount. So, you just October's amount. together. >> I'm looking at this.
>> Did we write? >> So for September and October 115,000 question, did we bring in this in September and October by day?
Um, you did not, but you also had people signing up for the trash stickers. And I think that Elizabeth could probably give more detail to that. I I think my question, Elizabeth, is did the September and October amount that we
paid for disposal offset? Was that amount offset by the amount that the town received in purple bags or was there um a negative there?
>> So, you know, that's a that's a tough one because of the timing of when the revenue hits the accounts. There's like a lag. I can tell you right now we've collected 282,000 in the bag fees
>> for >> well that's through November but November I only have one thing posted. So um there's more to come for November. It just is a lag in in timing. So for the months you're talking about there
was let's see July had $70,000. August had $103,000. September was 36, October was 35. November is at 36,955, but I still have more to post there. >> That's the
>> Yes, bag fees. Yes, that's purple bags. >> All right. So, and we go ahead. >> And we paid out 115 for trash disposal outside of the amount that we give to Shaw.
>> Yeah. All right. >> Yes. Thank you. >> It's because they didn't receive because >> so the numbers that are below >> the 115,000 is because um
>> it's two months. It's September and October. the 11527. >> Yes. Yes. >> Okay. So, September is the 5608.9 >> in October is the 59018 change. Yes. >> Okay.
>> So, that's for the that's for the base the base contract of 39915 plus the T. >> Yes. >> It's a math thing. I'm looking at it going. So just from the tonnage I'm seeing about 17,000 for this September
and if we were about 50,000 is the September it's 15 out of 16 right cuz it's 5338 and then 10,755 wait I I rounded okay
so yeah I um that's the thing if if the revenue that we saw our transferred from the bank revenue was 33,000 34,000 and we only had tonnage of 17,000 that we were paying the rest of this off
the rest of the monthly fees and so it looks like it's running you know the the bag fees are paying for the tonnage charge as they need to and it's a little extra there kick in to cover the base pickup charge and I see will continue to
watch it. >> Does it make sense? >> Well, yeah. I think I think I think what would really help everybody is is if we can compile it into this spreadsheet format. >> Yes, I agree. >> Um then then I cuz I mean it's good to
have all the backup but it's kind of hard to follow. >> Right. Right. Right. >> That we're just setting up the accounts. >> Yeah. I know I know keys are on the upside. Right. Right. The Right. It does look like at least we have not we we we've taken in more bag revenue than we
projected and we actually have not >> we've averaged about the tonnage that you've projected. >> Yes. >> Even a little less over the two months. >> So we've started out we've started out in a good place at least.
>> You guys okay with me sharing my screen so you could see it? >> Sure. I I just emailed it to Carla, too, if she wants to if she can get to it. Um, that would be me knowing how to share. Here we go. >> Let me >> Well, that's the thing. Tam, um,
>> Tam, can you allow Elizabeth share her screen and um, please? >> Right. She should be able to share. >> Thank you. >> Can you see it? Yeah, we see a big zoom of this. Oh,
yeah. >> In the bottom right there's a little bar you can slide. >> Yeah, I remember that. >> Like, can you guys see this? >> A lot bigger. bigger. >> Yes. >> Yes.
>> Okay. >> That's pretty good. >> Now, better. >> Yes, that's that's good. >> No. >> Okay. >> So, this is by month. The top one is the fees. So, 94,78
in fees to date. Um, like I said, there's a lag in some timing, so I don't have November's posted yet. Um, and then here we go by month on the bottom is your waistbags revenue. So to date your total revenue is 377,000
and if you I think you guys have all the expenses and our expenses were at 233. >> So that's not a bad place to be because your expenses are posted quicker than your revenues are. So, okay. So, August there's 103,000 in
waste bag. Wow. >> That's huge. >> Yeah, I said the same thing. And here's the detail to it. We probably I don't Well, wow. >> I I like the the first page is is is is fine. >> So, the reason for that is we stopped,
>> right? we stopped producing >> for a while and they weren't available. So when you get July, everybody's come on. >> Right. Well, well, I mean, probably the more important number is the fact that September, October, and November are above the 30,000. >> Right. >> Right. Cuz that's what that's what in in the budget that you laid out, you
budgeted for 30,000. And the fact that we're above 30,000 is a good thing. So, okay. But we don't have a similar formatted spreadsheet for the for the >> expenses at this point. Is that is that correct?
>> Correct. >> Okay. >> But well but but you can generate that. >> Yes. >> Okay. That's fine if it's not in the next five minutes. We understand that. >> Okay. I'll stop sharing if that's okay. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> Thank you.
>> Thanks, Elizabeth. Welcome. Okay. Um, any other questions? People from the community that are under electronic community that have any questions? Nope.
Okay. Uh, let's go to number five. Pass it through report for September and October. uh >> they're attached that was already what was up it was included
right >> that answer is four and five >> yeah the detail behind it is is here for the last >> okay but I think yeah I think I think a big takeaway is if we can if we can get monthly reports based on this format
um I think that'll really help us with uh you know understanding where where everything stands >> it looks like we're off to a good start at least. >> Yes. So and I guess from the detail side when
I was looking at the reports it looked as though the retail deposited 24,000ish this month but they transferred in 35,000 in November if I read them right. So, it may it may I may be in the weeds, but it there's a running balance of
about 20,000 after the end of October transfer funds. >> Okay. >> And so I I just like I said, I I one of the pages in the in the detail invoice looked as though there were only deposits of about 24,000 from the
retailers into the account, but there was a balance from the prior month. So, at the end of the month, 35,000 >> Oh, yes. >> was transferred. Yes. Yes. >> So if that's the way it's operating >> and that is the way that it's operating. >> Y
five bags at a time and you use two a month which was the suggested probabil possibility for us. >> Um then you're going to have a big purchase one month, but you're not going to need to purchase them the next month. >> Right. But that that's what I'm saying
is the purchases and the deposits that the store are making >> are are less than what we're transferring at the end of the month. So the carry balance that's in the account, >> right? >> Yes. >> Gets gets added to the receipts for the month and we bring over that 35,000. So
even after the 35,000 for October was transferred, there's about 20,000 in that account still to be in there. And again, I mean, I understand that if the program is suspended, we probably have to pay back the recent purchases that
the stores made for the un unsold bags, that sort of thing. If if it happened, I think to me it looks like the program's a success and continuing to do this kind of thing. Um, I would like to see and hopefully, you know, I'm still seeing user fees come
in, so people are still signing up for the program. >> They absolutely are. the last two. >> Yep. So, >> so I think Yep. >> Okay. >> Any other questions? >> Perfect. Okay. Can I get a motion to
>> Can I say >> Oh, sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. >> Yes. >> Correct. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I I believe what you told us was there's only 6 to800 people that haven't signed up for this program. >> Yes. How many? >> Okay. >> Only around 6 to800. So, of the of the
people that were using the program prior, >> we we had we had 3,400 people that were in the program when we first started um way back when with the overflow bags. >> And then when we went to the pay as you
throw program, we lost about 400 people. So, we were at 300 3,000. Then we lost the people when we went completely to the other one. So, we were looking at about 2,800. And we are at sticker 2245
and there are 15 stickers that have fallen off or gotten destroyed by something where we've had to give duplicates. So we're at 2230 for stickers. >> So there's there's 600 people out there floating. I don't know where they are, but
>> hopefully they've um got either private or or they'll and and the tax program is great. um our department head meeting um it said that the um treasur's office is willing um for us to put in an insert as long as it's short and sweet and it it's
not um going to in include additional weight. So I think that's a great idea versus just sending out invoices to everyone who's in the program. Send it out to everyone just in case you aren't in it. If you want to join, this is what
you need to do. And I think you're going to have probably a couple hundred right there that will come back. >> Are you talking about by March setting up uh what the new rate will be, what the new bag rate will be? >> That's our hopes. >> Okay.
>> If I may, um just a suggestion cuz I used to be a treasure collector. Motor vehicle goes out in February, January, February time. And that hits even more people because you'll get folks that maybe don't pay taxes but rent. Yeah,
>> about putting it in that big mailing too >> because that will Yeah, >> you might have the rate set by then. So >> potential it's kind of it's early. It seems like we're going to want >> I have no problem with the last unless you want to >> but I think that he at the board of
health we at least in a monthly basis we're going to talk about at least and we've been going to include in our agenda item any balances and and moving forward so that we as a board um can follow up and
and again plan ahead with all uh with all what's going on. Our goal is that for next year we won't take any money from from the tax levy that the program will be self- sustainable as how it is. >> You can't
be anything. >> No, what it means is that our plan is not to take uh any help from from from the tax levy. So that's our plan, right?
Okay. Uh so a motion to adjourn uh joint meeting with the vote um for the voter health and wait. >> Do you need a vote on the contract because we have >> which contract?
>> Oh never mind. We'll do it the 18th. >> I can make my motion to adjurnn. >> Yes, you can. >> I'll make a motion to join the joint meeting. >> Okay. I'll second that. All in favor say I. I. Okay. Now, a motion to adjourn the No, I'm sorry. I'll entertain the motion to adjurnn.
>> I'll make a motion that we um all in favor. I >> unanimous motion to me 649. >> Thank you very much everybody for coming. Thank you. There's one. There's one that I just
forgot in there. Am I good to go? Am I good to go? >> Thank you so much. See you guys. along the way to the bank. >> And more and more people are paying by checks these days. >> Yeah, my wife paid my check. >> So I I had $900 in checks, not this
Saturday, but the Saturday before. So I have more checks than I do cash. >> I have to I have it on a spreadsheet. I put it down at the end of the month or the month she gave it to you and then I have to transfer to the next and I said to Anthony, "I can't believe it was
sitting in here since October 18th. I'm so sorry." >> See you later. >> Okay. Thank you so much. >> Um, is Rick still here? >> Okay. 10 minutes.
I'm going to Okay. Okay. Your next one. Okay. Um it's it's 6:43 p.m. uh reopening board health uh regular meeting. I made a motion to do that. I did make a
motion open up the uh continuation of our port. >> I'll second that. All in favor say I. I. Very well. >> Okay, Rick. What's going on? This is project um 67 splouting splouting street. It's an upgrade.
>> Yes. So, um existing house uh with a failing system. Sure. So, the existing centric tank in this clouded area. Uh the existing system in this clouded area. uh they're looking to just upgrade for the same number of bedrooms. So, uh three bedrooms and um it would be a
1500gallon two compartment septic tank uh 1,000galon uh or sorry, a 1500gallon single compartment, 1,000gallon single compartment and that will gravity feed to a um 16x 28 bleaching field. Uh in order to do that they are looking for a
couple of local upgrade approvals or one local upgrade approval um for two for all the components. So uh there's a section of title 5 that doesn't allow greater than 36 in of cover over the system. Um and they are requesting up to 50 in of cover. Uh the requirements in
title 5 are that if you put more than 36 in of cover over the subject tanks and they need to be age 20 rated. Um so that's what they've proposed. And then as far as the field goes, if it's greater than 36 in, it needs to be vented, uh, which they've also proposed. And so they they've met the requirements
within that local upgrade approval section to receive that local upgrade approval. Um, Dan Proctor's here. He'll be the installer for the system, and they are still looking at trying to raise plumbing. Um, so there's a possibility that it might comply by the time it goes in. Um but they're
proposing it like like this um for now and and then we'll see what the plumber can can accomplish. >> Okay. Um can I get a motion to approve um upgrade with LUA 67 Street?
>> I'll make a motion to approve uh excuse me 67 Spalding Street. >> Okay. I'll second that. All in favor say I. >> I. Very well. Travis, >> I just need to give you um fees that I did before. I'm so
>> Okay. And I have um a couple of inter department referral forms. One of them definitely came in west. >> Okay. Okay. I'll grab those from Okay. Okay. Uh we have nothing on 16 and 17. So,
you're at 1.8 um Sh 30 Shere Road. >> Thank you. I'll see you tomorrow. >> Okay. Um good night. >> You too. See you. >> I'm here. Um on the >> Oh, okay. >> I've been here the whole time.
>> Okay. There you go. >> So, we have 30 Charlie Road. What's um Carly, if you can share a little bit about um what's been going on with 30 Shirley Road. Um >> I know that we have some pictures here.
So, >> yes, the um caller and the resident were notified that there was recycling put in their trash dumpster over a year ago. Um, we did talk to the owner, we talked to Shaws, everything
was going to be worked out. And unfortunately, I do drive by there every day. So, um, there's just there's cardboard and trash and recycling all mixed in together. And I just don't seem
to be able to get the haulers and the residents to come to a conclusion on how we can stop doing this. So, if I may, I looked at the pictures in your >> Can you identify yourself, please, for for the board of health?
>> Can you identify yourself to the board? >> I'm sorry. I'm Erica Williams. I'm the resident at 30 Shirley Road. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. Go ahead. >> I'm sorry. So, I went through the pictures that you took and every single one that you've taken, I went back and
looked at my Ring camera and they're all on Wednesdays. Wednesdays recycling. >> They're not. They're not. >> It's okay. Doesn't matter what day they were taking. >> They're not. >> So, I pulled >> I went back to my gra a calendar with me. >> I pulled
>> the 19th, which is a Wednesday. >> I pulled it. It doesn't matter the time of day. >> That was a Wednesday. And the one with the big 6T one was also a Wednesday. So, here's the issue. The tote that we have for recycling is not large enough to
deal with all of the cardboard. So, what we decided with the owner of Shaws and with Ben, who runs their operations, was that when we had too much of this cardboard, that it would go in there on recycling day, we would prop it up so the guys would see it and they would
take it with recycling. We didn't want to put it on the ground because it was littering and we can't put it on top because it blows away. So the only option we have if this is unacceptable is to take an additional tax burden on ourselves because that's really what this comes down to is having to continue
to pay more and more for our trash pickup since we're one of those is now going to have to get a second two yarder for the receptacles because the tote does not fit them. It just doesn't. Amazon loves to send boxes and I can't stop them from sending five times the
size of a cardboard box and is necessary and they send 43 boxes when they could have sent two and I got to find a place to put them all and this is what's causing the majority of the problem. >> Mr. Ars, Mr. Arsenal, our clerk has a question for you, ma'am.
>> Sure. >> How many times a month do you have the dumpster picked up? They're picked up every week now, which is why I thought this issue was resolved. We were having it done every other week, which was causing the overflow. At the twoe mark, we were overflowing. So, we have it every week now. And for the most part,
except for the very large boxes like the one in one of your pictures, you know, I thought we had had this problem, you know, resolved. But now I'm hearing that it's still a problem. So, if like I said, if this what we're doing to try and get it out on Wednesdays is unacceptable, the only
other thing that we can come to is to having to order another entire dumpster and having two dumpsters on our property. >> So, you tell me you fill up a dumpster once a week with this much trash >> with all the cardboard. Yeah, that's the
problem. The boxes are taking up the majority of the space. I could probably get away with a much smaller dumpster and just have one for my recycling because most of it is boxes. >> And you crush all you you break down all your cardboard. >> Some of it, not all of it.
>> You think that might be a problem? >> I mean, I try and break it all down, but I'm busy and I don't have time to break down every single box. >> Well, how many people in your household? >> Does it matter? Is it relevant? It kind of does cuz I'm I'm looking at this
dumpster. A week's worth of trash. This there is a lot of trash in that dumpster >> for a week. >> Okay. Well, wouldn't that be a matter between me and my private hauler since that's who I'm contracting to take my trash? >> So, you don't want to answer my question. How many people are in your
household? >> I just don't see how it's relevant. Well, the issue here is the recycling. Correct. So, and this >> this all comes from your house. >> Well, people don't put trash in my dumpster outside of it. No.
>> Okay. Just asking a question. >> So, ma'am, let me ask you this. In what way are you able to resolve this situation? Because the situation with the board of health is that this is a health issue matter, right? and our
intention is to is to to see and protect um public health. So in what way are we able to avoid this situation in the in the near in the closest future? Because
I mean I see pictures of of um over overflating um >> household trash. It's not car. So the ones from back in May are when they were picking up every two weeks. So the ones that were the older pictures, the
further back ones, that's when we weren't getting picked up but every two weeks. Now the more recent pictures that you're showing me are the ones where you can just see them on top. The last three are just where you see them on top. >> That's absolut
trash. And that's how it's all trash. So the matter is trash from recycling. So here's here is what the board is has into its consideration. We need you to separate the trash and
the recycling. They cannot go mixed together. Okay? And I think that if you need to get an additional dumpster or or whatsoever, you need to do so. But they cannot go mixed together. >> If they if I may,
>> Mr. Go ahead. >> If If you properly recycled and you paid the $125 for a sticker, um, you could put out as much recycling.
You would have to break down your boxes into 2x two, which is the mandatory curbside program rules. But you could put out as much recycling as you want for that 125 a year. And I guarantee you
that dumpster that you're paying weekly to dispose of will be monthly because 70% of the stuff that's in that dumpster that you're disposing of is recycling. >> Yeah. It's all cardboard boxes. That's my problem. I have a ton of cardboard boxes.
>> Boxes. We have the pictures. There's trash in there. I drive by this every day. There's noted trash. You are not recycling at all. At all. >> See my 96gallon tote full of recycling? >> Never.
>> Never. >> Because you don't look. >> Not once. >> So, if I showed you my ring footage of it being full all the time, would that factor in? or the ring footage of the uh on Wednesdays when the guy comes by at 10
between 10 and 11 taking the trash. >> Okay. Who is this who's talking >> sitting next to me? >> Okay. >> We have footage of shores coming every Wednesday for recycling between 10 11
o'clock in the morning and you can see him clearly in my Ring camera dropping cardboard every single week. We we should actually ask Rick to go ahead. So I think you know the the regulations that you guys have really kind of dictate how it should be handled. So
there's a section in here that says um recyclable shall not be co-mingled with solid waste when collected by the permanent hauler. Recyclables must be delivered to a processing facility designated to accept recyclables. And it goes on about the the um the eventual
you sending it to the processing facility. But I think it's pretty clear that the regulations say that you need to separate your recycling and your your solid waste um from each other. And and uh later on in the regulations it says uh
uh permanent hauler may either offer a collection container for recyclables or clearly visible stickers for the customer to apply to their existing container for recyclables. containers for recyclables should be of a large enough volume to collect all recyclables generated by the customer. Um and then
at the beginning the ranks state that recycling is mandatory. So, I think the first thing is, you know, if it's recyclable, it needs to be separated from the solid waste and and Shaws as as the permanent hauler um needs to either provide you with a a container large
enough or sticker to put on a container large enough to handle all the all the recyclable material. I spoke to her this week and her resolution for me was since the 96 tote is full all the time of boxes that we can put another two yarder out there but I have to pay another fee
for the two yarder for the recyclables. >> Doesn't all the regulations say that they cannot talk about >> essentially and I'm and guys it's not that I don't want to comply it's just that I'm trying to deal with it. So, >> so, so they they require bundled services. So, they if they offer
municipal solid waste pickup, they have to offer recycling and it's got to be one price that they provide for it. Um, but that doesn't mean that they couldn't charge a separate amount. It's just got to be in included in that single bundle
price. >> So, if you guys want me to do the other two yarder, I will do that. So, ma'am, uh let me ask you um uh I know that Carter proposed to you about about instead of using this big dumpster
like about how about subscribing to to the pay as you throw program here with with the town, it would be more cost and effective for you and at the same time you'll be able to work with your trash and the vibe with with the recycling.
>> No. So, I don't want to have to deal with the purple bags. We started with the purple bags. They're not big. They rip and I don't enjoy them at all. So, I'd rather just have the dumpster and deal with it that way because we started the other way. And then now there's $125 fee that I'm going to have to pay and
I'm going to have to have another pay for that. Plus, I'm still going to have to pay for DW Doors and Shaws to still take my regular trash away. So, I'd rather just stay with a private hauler cuz I mean, every other person who has a dumpster, they have a dumpster. They dump their stuff in the dumpster and they take the dumpster and nobody hears
a word of it. I can tell you a hundred businesses who throw whatever they want in their dumpsters and nobody says a word about it. But because they live on Shirley Road, I hear about it every single week. >> Go ahead. Say it. But they don't look
like that. >> Thank you. >> I've seen plenty that look even worse. >> Well, we're talking to those people, too. >> Yep. So, like I said, if you guys want me to get the second dumpster out here, I will accept the $2,500 tax levy, which is
what essentially this relates to to get rid of all my boxes because that's what it's going to cost me a year. $2,520 for trash. >> If she wants to dispose of her recycling, she can do it. She can still have the dumpster. She doesn't have to deal with the purple bags. You can use your dumpster. You can throw out your
trash in the dumpster. You don't have to deal with the purple bags. You can put your recycling out at the curb as much as you want. You don't have to sort it. And it's $125. >> How am I going to put it in? That's >> whatever you want. We we we have free
recycling stickers. Get a couple of trash bins. Get a couple of trash bins and and and and just put the recycle sticker that that we have available for for years for the residents. So when the haulers come up and they see that trash bin, they go, "Oh, there's the recycle
sticker. It's actually recycling and as the bundled service says if the Shaws the hauler has to give you enough. So if you're 64 or 96 gallon container is not working for your recycling then Shaw should be giving you three or four of
them. Correct. >> Yeah. I mean if they want to pay for it they could also provide their own container that is a large enough volume and put the sticker on it. I mean it doesn't have to be a dumpster. It doesn't have to be a Shaw provided container. It has to be large enough. >> So, what you're saying to me is if I get
my own giant dumpster, because again, I don't want it out there on the curb because it blows away. It goes all over the place. So, I'm trying to keep it contained in one place. So, if I get something to put this in, they have to take it. >> This doesn't blow away.
>> No, it setits on top of the trash can. So, they know that when it when they come to get the recycling, they take them. actually came and looked after they uh >> recycling, you would see that the uh dumpster is closed after the fact,
>> but y'all take pictures in the morning >> as y'all drive by >> cuz we dump it out there before we go to work. They come at 10:00 and take it and then close it all up. >> This would make you happy. This is what I will do. >> Mhm.
So, as of today, um, December 8th, um, what will be the resolution for this? Then, ma'am, >> I will have them bring out a larger container because the tote is not big enough. It's not fitting it, which is
the problem that we're having. It is not fitting it. So, I will have them bring something out here. As what he just said is that they have to provide me something big enough to be able to put this recycling in. So, I will push back on them and say I need something bigger to fit all these cardboard boxes in
because I have a hoorde of them and they come every day. In fact, every day I probably get 10 15 boxes and I can't fit them. So we have >> and if I you know I I think the bigger part of the discussion is is with Shaws that they shouldn't be picking up those
materials and and the rights clearly say that you know if they don't pick it up for whatever reason they need to provide a written reason to their customer saying why um to to get them to comply but shops shouldn't be picking it up co like that.
>> Okay. This isn't a uh this is every day. >> 15 20 This is This is 15 20 boxes every single day year round. >> Right now it's Christmas time, so yeah, they're sending me a whole bunch of stuff, but I mean I get a lot of boxes. I have a lot of stuff on auto ship.
>> Okay. Well, ma'am, I think we consider that the situation has been resolved for this board. I mean, there is no other action. Uh if it happens again though you have to state something that's
>> however um consider that that this board >> final warning >> will consider this as a warning that if another situation has will be brought up to this board um then the the board of health will take um the next steps and
the next step will be fines. Okay ma'am >> I will have them bring it out here. I can resolve it once they bring out the bigger container. I will let them know tomorrow what we decided and I'm just going to have to wait for them to bring me that container. Once I have it, I will comply. >> Awesome. Okay. Very well. Thank you very
much, ma'am. >> Thank you. Have a good night. >> You too. >> Perfect. >> Okay, Rick. >> Rick is leaving and he's not going to be here on Thursday. >> Not, but I will be here tomorrow. So, I will. >> So,
>> okay. I'll give you all your permit fees uh at that point. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> But I think you know I know you've talked to Shaw but you know if if you need to I'm happy to help you write it or or just write it. >> You know you are going to write letter
we need to send them an enforcement letter. I I I can't call. >> Yeah. I mean and you know the >> That's what I'm saying. It's not just >> if that really was their plan to have them throw it on top. I mean, they're they're clearly violating the rights.
Like, yeah, clearly says a separate container, right? >> No, I mean, SH himself shouldn't be picking >> picking that up off the ground, getting out of the truck, picking that up off the ground. >> Go ahead, sir. >> Uh, my name is Charles Wolski. Um, would I be able to add something or
>> Yes, go ahead. >> I don't know. I just thought of this. Would having her burn it in a controlled area like benefit her situation like the cardboard was burn like her like disposing of her cardboard and burning it in a burn.
>> I don't know. >> Okay. >> A good question from young adults. >> It was a great question. Great pressure. Thank you. >> That's against the That's against the rules. >> I will see you tomorrow. >> Yep. >> All right. Cuz today's Monday. I'm all messed up because I keep thinking it's
Tuesday. Yeah. >> So, I'll um I'll I've I've got a folder for you. I'll give you the fees and I've got two other permits for you as well. >> All right. And I'll be here. >> Sounds good. >> Good night, guys. Good night. >> Okay. One um one one thing for this
situation. I don't know if we should put on the website on big letters like the regulation that Rick had brought up in order to avoid this situation that well what I what I am going to talk to Shaw
about is when you see this folder you'll see at the very end there was a letter that he was supposed to send out to all his residential customers saying hey this is how and it went out to all the haulers saying, "Hey, these are the new
regulations in towns in." So, make sure your res I don't know who those residential customers are because legally they don't have to tell me who they are. So, I can't send them this, but I can send this to the haulers and say, "You need to send this to your
customers and let them know." And they were supposed to send these out and I don't think they did. So, >> can we put that on the website? >> Well, it is on the website. This went on the website the one of the first things when we talked about >> but I think we should re I mean
>> I'll talk to >> we should um put it on back and I think that um that if we send this to Glenn I prefer to be on hand. >> Yeah. >> Um so that we can copy a signature of
him that he received it. Y >> because the next time I don't want this probably uh we we want to make sure that he's in compliance because if he's not and this went out when Jim was still
here but you were chairman so it wasn't that long ago. >> It's a win-win for sure. So >> because if you if he renegotiates he can he can charge for that extra. Okay. So, before we get to invoices, I'd
like to see if we could go to 1.11 because Travis is here. >> Our new recycling attendant one. Come on up, Travis. >> So, I did have a few questions to ask. >> So, do we sit up?
>> Yes. >> You've been waiting for this all night, haven't you? >> Sort of early. I thought you were only going to be at 6:30, but you were here at 6:00. So, we got to bed. Long evening. >> Oh, yeah. So, after seeing this whole debacle this evening, you still want to be in the trash business?
>> Well, knowing that it's like that, well, probably because I think a little bit of common sense could be used. >> Okay. And with at least with the residents, mostly with the residents after seeing that. Sorry, that was in my opinion that
was very >> just to let you know that that the that this meeting is recorded and people can hear also as well. >> Okay. Oops. Sorry. Okay.
Um Travis came highly recommended um to the board. He's been down at the recycling center. Our Foreman and Paul Walter met with him. Outstanding. I think he would be a great addition
to the town. Young personal. >> Tell us a little bit about your background. >> So background. Um I've been in Boy Scouts and just the scouting association wise pretty much since I was about eligible to go in which is about four or 5 years old. Um
I've done a couple sports get like not really very many throughout my lifetime. I did baseball for about one or two years when I was 9 to 10 and then now I'm starting to pick up in wrestling. That's going all throughout hopefully high school career. That's running from
December to I think hopefully March, but with this new job opportunity that might end up changing. So, I'm not 100% sure what's going to happen from then. Um, what else? I have worked in retail
before. Uh, I worked for a I think it's June, like about mid June. I I can't remember the dates to about late August, like just about the end of August. Um, I had worked construction
for Todd Arsenal for Arsal Sun. That was I think one summer. So that would have been June till August and then that's pretty much it. And what are your hopes of if you get hired for this position? What are your
hopes of out of this position? >> My hopes will be further experiencing working with different people because as seeing from when I gone there the first day, it's just seeing the people come in, it's like, okay, well, different people deal with different situations.
So, I'm going to have to, I guess you could say, better improve myself with adjusting to dealing with difficult situations, I guess you could say. >> So, you're a people person. >> Yeah, I'm a people person. >> You are. You are. >> I What? >> You are or you aren't?
>> I am. Cuz I've I can read people easily. I feel >> like that. He's very well spoken to. He's very clear in his speaking. You can understand him very well. >> Carl, let me ask you, is he under
consideration for the board to approve his >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. Highly recommend. >> Um, can I get a motion to approve
um the hiring of Mr. Travis Meowski? I make a motion to approve Travis Masowski for the uh position of recycle one. >> Recycle what? >> Attendant one. >> Attendant one. >> I'll second that. All in favor say I.
>> Hi. >> Welcome, sir. Thank you so much. >> You got to call that um doctor's office. They had an appointment right away. >> Yes. >> Okay. I actually So I did end up getting a physical. I have one from 7:25 25 that would that be
>> I think it might I think they might need a drug test which you could probably just go down and do a P test somewhere like an urgent care or something but if you do have that and you can get that to me that's wonderful >> because the I believe the board of selectman are meeting next week. I I
really wanted to get them in it for the next time we're open which is the 20th. >> Okay, >> that would be ideal. And then I'm also going to need your shirt size um and your shoe size because we've got some sweatshirts and t-shirts and some steel toe boots that we want you to have too. Perfect. Thank you so much. Okay. Of
course. Um I will let you know in advance. Uh my phone is down right now. I did have troubles with that. It's got a broken screen. Either way, I'm trying to get that fixed. So I don't know if I'll be able to have clear communication back and forth. Um I can work through email right now.
>> Okay. Uh phone number won't work and I don't know what about your parents. You got a you got a house phone? Don't have a house phone. >> Parents cell phone just in case it was an emergency. >> Is it in here? >> Yeah. So my emergency contact
information. >> Perfect. Look at you. You got this. Now he's got his whole package. I didn't give you the whole package information. >> Perfect. So that's just a way for us to get you. All right. All right. That's perfect. >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> Welcome to war, sir. Thank you so much.
>> Okay. >> Thank you. >> If you don't mind, I'll take that. And um I will give it a report for it, too. >> Oh, okay. >> Um the questions I had were >> so down in here, since I had signed this, >> do I still sign off of this? Cuz I had read this
>> and it was basically saying like, do you agree to the offer of employment and all that? And I'm This is my first time ever seeing one of these packets. >> Actually, they're kind of new for me, too, because we have a new HR director.
So, what I think we should do is um What's your schedule like um when you get out of school? What time do you get out? >> So, I get out at 2:30, but I don't get home until about 3:20, 3:30. >> Okay. >> Cuz I go to school.
>> Okay. So, um let's see. I will reach out on email to you and Callie who's our HR director because I think that she needs to sign this that she's acknowledging that you are accepting the
form of employment. So take this home with you. I'll send an email tomorrow. It'll have you, me, and Calie and we'll figure out how we can get you in for this. You don't need to go to the selectman's meeting. It's just a simple now that you've you've had a motion,
you've been accepted by the board of health, then it's just a recommendation for them. >> Okay. >> Okay. Thank you so much. >> Okay. Thank you. >> You don't have to be here either. >> Thank you. >> Very nice of you to sit through all of this. Usually we're not this busy. Oh,
no. >> This This could be some right up your alley. Well, after seeing after going there and getting like a walk through the place I'm talking about just being somewhere like this somewhere when you come down all all the
90% of the men that have worked there have gone off to be policemen just to let you know. >> Oh wow. >> Um in fact um Matt McCrae is a state policeman now. >> Um but they all stayed there. I Paul started working there when he was 14 and
he's 32 and he's still there. Well, wow. So, they really enjoy. It's very laidback. It can get busy. People can be cranky. It can get cold, but for some reason, the people who come in there don't leave.
>> Yeah. And I can see why because they make you feel at home there. All All the guys there, I I do want to give them a shout out. They they do a great job at making you feel like, hey, this is where you're supposed to be. >> Good. It's nice to hear. Thank you. Well, have a good night. Okay, so much.
>> Thank you. Thanks, Thomas. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Invoices. is Carla got a short winter puffer coat with her clothing allowance supplies from Staples calendar
um desk calendar in wall calendar for 2026 AT&T monthly bill Bob's Tire $866 that's normal we >> Bob's tire >> Bob's tire it's when they dispose of the tires okay >> um I think it was around 180 tires it's
right here in the backup, but it's usually between 150 and 2 that we start getting high. So, um I think they did go up a little bit, but we still do make a little bit of money with it. Unitil back up again 304. Um up and down, up and
down. Carla really trying to keep her mileage down. Really trying to Oh, I've got to go someplace. Let's try and you know do three things at once. So, October through December only 4221. Um the board of health third quarter
fees for Rick and the nurses. Um needle kiosk 95. Um we went up on our needles. They went up 10 bucks too. I think they heard about it. No kidding. Um East Coast Recycling. Um that is the um
electronics at a flat rate of 675 which is a smoking deal. So that is your warrant for this month. Do we want to meet on the 22nd, Todd? Cuz Christian and I said no. >> Um I'm proposing not to meet on on on
the 22nd because it's Christmas uh it's Christmas week and I don't think What are your thoughts? >> So we're not going to meet on the 22nd. >> Okay. >> Uh so that's going to leave us for our next meeting on the 12th for the
business matter. Y >> uh my question to you is um that means what days will be the board of health office open? >> I don't see myself taking I I'm really up in the air right now. I got a
doctor's teleconference tomorrow at 1:30 and then I have a big meeting at Friday at 8:20. So after that, I'll have a little bit um more um as far as my schedule, but it doesn't look like it's going to be anything
crazy. So that week I'd probably just be off the 24th, 25th, and 26th. >> Y I I think that the town hall is going to close at noon time on the 24th, and I think that they're probably going to say that they're closed on the 26th
um to the public. But if you want to work, you can come in and work. >> So why don't we propose the dates that are going to be that we going to be open then? Like >> we will put that on the website. Let let me let me go through let me get to my doctor's appointment on Friday first
before we we start. >> Okay. Let let me let me get into next week and and see exactly >> because the thing is that um that if we going to if we're not going to be in session next week, I think as we I mean I don't know of any purpose of having
the office um open. Well, I need a salary. >> No. Well, I mean it depends on how how busy it is, but I mean but uh >> yeah, I'm I'm going to work in in the budget. You saw that the emails have
just started to go out about the budgets. Everything's level funded, so that's good. Um there's not a lot of talk when you've got contracts. There's not a lot of lead room. But um I I got to look at the landfill operations because we cut 20% out of a lot of our
budgets. And now I'm looking at them and thinking, wow, we're going to be really tight. So, um, looking at looking at a little different things. Um, the flyer I also have to start working on that. I got to
start working on that flyer. >> Okay. >> Cuz I think I want to send out two. >> I think I I better >> I I I think I want to send out one like January. >> Um, just a flyer, the flyer. Hey, happy new year. Look at the schedule for the
recycling center for 2026 is these dates. Have you got your sticker? pay attention. Things will be in your your tax insert, you know, just a little bit of information because when you send out the bill and the tax insert, it's going
to be just a bill cuz it can't be any more weight. So, we can't be making all this big nice flyer um heavy thing. So, and we haven't used any of the money yet for the education. So,
we've got to >> We have to use it. Yeah. >> Well, we don't have to. I mean, it's great that it's there, but that's one of the things we've we I've been extremely pro We have not spent any money unless I absolutely absolutely have to. >> It's good. >> Okay. So,
>> it's good. >> Yeah. It went very well. >> You guys did well. It was good. >> Good. Good presentation then. So, >> wasn't a presentation. >> Not a presentation, but questions and answers. >> Yeah. So I think that we should keep it on if if the select board or whoever
wants to have any meetings to >> they know that they can come in at any time and once Elizabeth starts meeting sheets I'm just going to send the monthly it'll go to Don it well Don Nelson then it'll go to probably Lori
>> spreadsheets will keep them happy. >> Yep. Just here you go monthly. This is what and and I do I sent Don you saw it when I sent you guys the the spread. I sent it to Don. I'm not keeping them. I sent them to Lori. >> I'm not I'm I'm not not transparent. I I
do I probably send more to Lori than I should, but she's our leazison. Good. It's all good. >> So So our next meeting is going to be on January 12, 2026. >> Perfect. And can I get a motion to adjourn tonight's meeting?
>> I will definitely make that motion to adjourn tonight's meeting. >> Okay, I'll second that. All in favor say I. >> I. Meeting adjourned at 7:21