Today is Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 6 pm board of health meeting. Uh meeting at the first floor, meeting room 2. Uh then at 7:15, we'll have a meeting, a
joint meeting with the select board at the select board's chambers. Um roll call. I'm Christian Roman Ramirez, chair and we present Mr. Todd Arsenal who is u our new elected member for the board of health. If you can present
yourself, Todd Todd Osmo. Um, additions, deletions. Um, I will, um, we will not have the reappoint of
officers tonight. Um, Mr. Laquir, um, reach out and he's he's feeling sick and he's not able to make it for tonight's meeting. So um also um we will move the public hearing
continuation of the styrofoam reduction in towns in for our next regular meeting. Um if possible. Um other than that uh we will continue on with the rest of the agenda. You have 145 Mason
Road is a new construction as additions and deletions. And in order to continue the public hearing, we're going to have to have a roll call and open it up and close it like we normally do. So, I'd suggest that you keep that on the meeting so we can just have a two-minute discussion to update Todd on what's
going on. So, we will do that. Then we will we will not delete the the um the 1.8 8 public hearing continuation of the styrofoam reduction in towns and then yes um let's go ahead and go
forward with 1.2.1 with Mason Road new construction then right next to the recycling center. Yeah. So, this is a new construction lot at the corner of Volp Pipe Road and Mason Road. Um, it's it's vacant right now. There's a gravel driveway that
comes off and it's a concrete pad. So, I'm not sure if there might have been a house there before. Um, but they're looking to build a a new house there. Um, put a well out in the front and then the system will go out in the back. Uh it's a 2500 gallon two compartment tank
and two 50 foot long trenches gravity fed. Um there's not really much around here. So the core farm is kind of over here but it's it's quite a bit of ways away. Um so no real issues, no variances. It's in in full compliance.
So pretty straightforward. So, it's a four bedroomedroom house that they're proposing and the septic system is four four rooms, correct? Four. Four bedrooms. Four bedrooms. Okay. Okay. Uh, do you have any questions?
Time compliance right now. police. So, where's the recycling center here? Uh, you come down here and then turn on to Greenville Road to go down probably another half a mile or so.
Okay. Um, do I get a motion to approve um the new construction on 145 Mason Road in in West Townsen? Yes.
I'm sorry I say that. I I submit a motion. I submit a motion to approve uh sewage disposal system design for 145 Mason Road. I second it. Al all in favor say I. I.
Thank you. Thank you. I don't know how to pull this. Okay. Okay. Um for the agenda 1.3, appointment of Harrison C. May as burial agent.
Yes, that is um I believe it's a mandated through the state that you must have one. So yeah, I mean typically it it falls on the board of health by default. U but most towns have their town clerk as a burial agent. So the board of health just needs to vote to designate the town clerk which be
Harrison as the the burial agent. Okay. So I pres I present a motion to appoint uh Mr. Harrison C. Mayor as the burial agent. Who can whos? I'll second that.
All in favor of voting say I. I. Uh let's go to 1.4 septic permits for review. Any other septics? That was it. So there are none. Okay, perfect. Um let's go for 1.5 country
states pool drain update. I don't see anybody on there. I know they were going to they were supposed to come on the Zoom. So maybe if we can Hi. Um I'm I'm on Zoom. I'm a new board member at the country states. My name is
Bonnie. Hey Bonnie. Can you hear me? Yeah. Uh so did Anest give you a copy of the agreement that we had drawn up? So um the agreement I I'm sorry I literally just joined the board. Um let me see if I can
find the information. He was supposed to be on the Zoom tonight. Um, Bonnie, if you can hold on a moment, if can Rick can give the background to this. So, for benefit for Todd for for this, this is something that we've been working since
last year. So, so that if you can um uh just give us a brief um um synopsis uh for the board so that so that um Todd can catch up on what is this that we're talking about.
Yes. So this is um you know where country estates is on turnpike road. Um so they have a pool there have for quite some time. Um Cara from our office did the inspection of the pool to open it up for
last year and realized that the main drain didn't look like it was working. Come to find out that at some point it was cemented in. Um so they don't have a main drain which doesn't meet the state requirement for a public pool. Um and so they had applied for a variance um
which is something they can do under 105 CMR 435 which is the state's uh pool code and um the towns and board of health approved it but in order to actually approve it it has to go off the the department of public health and they have to approve it as well. The
department of public health ended up denying the variance and said that the main train needs to be present. That's not something that they would grant a variance to, but they suggested that we allow the pool to stay open if the board could come to an agreement with country
estates to get it replaced. And he said, you know, could be a number of years as long as you have an agreement in place to to make sure that that gets done. I mean, the the inspection of the pool has always gone well. The water clarity has always been good. The pool chemistry has
always been good. um you know so it's it doesn't seem like it's an immediate danger but I guess in order to really circulate especially the bottom water column of the pool you need that main drain to pull that water out and put it back on top. Um and so we last year had
drafted an agreement in February and then um Anest who was a board member at the time for Country Estates uh he had some personal things come up so he kind of stepped out and now we're just kind of getting back to it right now. Um but
we had drawn up a plan which kind of was agreed to at least verbally uh that they would replace that main drain and get it repaired uh within I believe it was 5 years. So what you're saying is that the
process is going to take 5 years to replace it. So it was September 10th 2028 is what they had asked for. you know that it was four years from or three years from that date. Um and so they had said that they needed to raise
capital to be able to do it. They were in the middle of some bigger projects. I think they had just redone the parking lot. Um had plans to redo some roofs that were leaking. And so this was on their list, but they didn't have the capital to be able to do it and figured that they needed that period of time to
be able to raise the capital to to be able to do it. And I know uh based on my last conversation with the Nestus, they were having issues finding a contractor that works on concrete pools. I guess there's just not many of them out there at this point. Um and so maybe uh uh
they they can talk about where where they're at in that process. I'm not too sure. Yeah. So, um this is Bonnie again. Um they we have a couple people coming out in the next couple of weeks. Two different people that um work with concrete pools. Um one is coming on May
28th and then I think the other one's I forget when the other one's coming. It's within the next week or so um to see what can be done um to fix this issue. Cuz you know, short of digging up the whole pool, I don't know what they're
going to do. Hello, Christian Roman Ramirez, chairman of the board of health. I have a question. Yeah. Uh the timing. Um are you still requesting um until 2028 to get this situation
fixed? Yes. at least at least another couple of years cuz it's going to I we don't know how much it's going to cost. Um I just like I said I just joined the board so I'm trying to get we just raised condo
fees to help you know gain some capital. So I I'm hopeful we'll be able to you know tackle this or that. Um, I mean the pool being one of them. Pool is a big thing at our place for the residents. So that, you know, I think we should be
able to get done well before 2028. Um we just you know we need some time because my concern is that by 2028 is I mean I instead I would agree but we have to vote as as board um to instead of
2028 to at least have it to 2027. Okay. is what are your thoughts about that? Yeah, I mean, you know, whatever the the board thinks is reasonable and whatever the condo association thinks is feasible on their end. I mean, the the shorter
the timeline, the the better because then the pool comes into compliance. Um, you know, so if if 2027 is the board's expectation and the condo association thinks that they can do that by then, then then yeah, I would say you push
that date forward. Um I do have a question. Um let's say you know the uh the fees are just so much that we we can't you know pay for it. Would we do you think like we'd have to fill the pool in with like concrete
or something? I I guess we'd approach that when we get there. I mean typically you don't fill it in with concrete. you puncture it or remove it and and fill it with with dirt just cuz concrete's offensive. But um
Okay. We'll cross that bridge if and when you get there after you start to get some quotes. Gotcha. Okay. Thank you. You have a question? I do. Yeah. So the main drain is to filter it correctly. So the the main drain is the one at the
bottom, right? Um, and so yeah, I mean it's right now they just have skimmers and so the skimmers are are just top of it. It's just top. Yeah. So you're not really getting that bottom water column but but stays clean enough as is. Yeah. I mean the you know every time we've tested it, the water chemistryy's come
back right. They have a flow meter on the the pool and it's you turning over water how it should. So, if you have people in the pool and they're kind of stirring it up, then you it should be taking care of it, but it's not you drawing water from the bottom of the
pool to filter it. Um, I think that instead of 2028, we should move it to 2027. Um I think that from now to 27 um uh uh country states would have
enough time to either assess get somebody to work on that because um I'm I I'm just concerned that um that this is something that we've been dealing since last year and we are on the
summertime. So, um [Music] I I will make a motion that the board of health would approve the agreement instead of
2028 for the date to be 2027 the the the the due date to complete those works. Is that something that country states is able to achieve by that time? Um, I think I think we can try to make
it work for 2027. Um, yeah. Okay. Uh, can I get a motion? Need the motion. Second. Second. Second. Second that motion. Okay. All in favor of the motion say I. I. Okay. And then so just
to to continue with this, so one of the things that they're asking for within the next two weeks, this is an inspection of the pool to try to open it by Memorial Day. So with the agreement in place, um I can sign on behalf of you guys and then I'll figure out who's going to sign on behalf of the condo
association. You're okay with them opening as long as the rest of the inspection goes well. A motion to delegate Rick to to sign on the expansion inspection on behalf of the board of health. Second. All in favor say I. I. Okay. Thank you. All right,
Bonnie. So, um, if do I have your contact information? Did we I know Anescus emailed me, but I don't believe he gave me your information. Are you Mike? Uh, Rick. Rick. Okay. No, he has not given
me any sort of information. Okay. Um, do you have a telephone number that I can reach at? Yep. Um it is wait are you ready? Y 978 9996 4143.
I will um contact you tomorrow and figure out who would sign the agreement on behalf of the association and I'll revise this document and get you over a copy to look at and then hopefully by the time uh you get the pool inspection
lined up with Colby from our office we have met up and and taken care of signatures on it. Okay. Anything else? I think that was it. Okay. Thank you very much, Bonnie. In representation of
country states. Thank you. Thank you. Um on the agenda 1.6 well repair proposal for landfill. Um Carla if you can for benefit for Todd. Sure. So, we
had D came out to do a walk through on the landfills that have been closed in towns and they had questions about a landfill monitoring well that we had already been working with DE with Western and Samson who is our contractor
to do all the monitoring for the closed landfill. And they let us know that one of the the wells you couldn't get the sample in deep enough so it needed to be repaired. and they presented a proposal. We sent it to town council. Town council
has okayed it. It is uh 6,995. I'm pretty sure I'm going to have probably 2 to2500 in the end ofear budget to cover this and the remainder can come out of the capital landfill or the general revolving. So, it can definitely be
funded and it needs to be done because the D needs to sign off on these inspections yearly and they don't like it. So, they said you could put a bandaid on it and the board um when Jim was here said absolutely not. I want to fix it now. Fix it now. So, this is what
you have before you. As I said, it has been reviewed by town council and I do believe I have Todd's name on there as well as Jim and Christian and the right board of selectman members. So, if it pleases the board, I'd like to get this
signed so we could take this care of this fiscal year. I submit a motion to approve this proposal um already presented to town council and had voted um previously um by the board
of health with that motion. Yes. Okay. Can I can I get a second? All in favor say I. I. Okay. So, we have in front three copies. I would like all three copies because I want to keep one in my office. I want to keep one in the account's office and I
want to keep one in the selectman's office just in case things go missing that there is an original copy. think we missing one, right? Yeah, we need one. And it was because of Jim, but it's okay. I'll take two. Okay. I'll take two
originals. Okay. Now, let's go to 1.7. Invoices. Invoices. We have for this session we have Carla for April and May travel which was $4221. We have the towns and police
department for Earth Day their detail um for the Earth Day event in the amount of $260. We have in Western and Samson for the landfill engineering for the work that they did which helped us determine that we had the problem with the well for $2,93.77.
We have Staples in the amount of $5529 for office supplies. I believe that's Tona. We have B&D Associates coming from the revolving fund for $95, which is our needle kiosk disposal. We have Amazon for landfill
maintenance for $18.99. And I believe that is for a shovel and a sweeper for them to clean off the concrete pad. But I have all the documentation in here. We we have Unil Energy which is our regular utility bill
for electric which is $21130. We have AT&T which is from the revolving account which is my cell phone for the amount of $4523. We have Uline which is paid through a grant in the amount of
$1,42.72. That's for all the fluorescent bulbs and batteries. So, I found a great deal where you you pay for the packaging is already paid for. So, that's why it's so much. And the recycling members have been diligent where we've been open
every Saturday, making sure that all these bulbs are packaged and everything. And I just have to get the tracking number, which I hope to do tomorrow, and then I just make a call and they come down and pick them up. It's it's a really it's a great option because right
now we are using a vendor for the electronics and they don't accept the batteries and fluorescent bulbs where our other electronic vendor did. So I think it's much more cost effective and it seems to work really well with packaging and having them come to the
facility because there's no way that I could lift any of those boxes. No, no, unless I can't fit the 8ft fluorescent bulbs in my car to bring them here. So, it's just it makes it a lot more efficient just to have them go schedule a time. I'll go down, I'll I'll
be there, they pick them up, and they go. Uh GW Char and Sun um solid waste your monthly bill for $68,500. GW Char and Sun for revolving for the bulky um furniture um that we are
disposing at the recycling center because we no longer have the grant with our new contract for $834.35. Sharon Palinsky and Frank B did not make Earth Day, so we are refunding their money at $35 a piece in the amount of 70.
Carla has the last bit of her clothing allowance in the amount of 14107 and Amazon has the other thing. One of them was the broom and the other is the shovel. So the way that we're doing it now, Todd, is we used to sign
every single document here, but the accounting office said that they would rather have this. So, we just keep this and then I make several copies because I need to keep these in the correct departments for um but if you need to see any of the documentation, it's all
behind that. [Music] this new line. Um, what that is the fluorescent bulb and the pales for the batteries. Okay. Um, question about the cell phone. There was
a situation that hasn't been resolved as of yet. I don't know. I haven't received this month's bill. We haven't received the month. Okay. You want to go over and then sign here or below where it's curious. Do you have their
refund? It was um somebody was sick and somebody fell. So, they paid $35 for the booth to go to Earth Day and they couldn't make it. So, we refund their money. They had very valid reasons. We have to trust you.
Okay. Here you go, Carla. Thank you very much. Now, we're going to open the public hearing for the continuation of styrofoam reduction in Townsen. Is that a motion? Uh this is 6:26 p.m. We um I I
submit a motion to open the public hearing for continuation of Sarah from reduction in towns and I'll second. All in favor say I. I. Okay. Um Rick, if you can give us a synopsis um about it. So
and for our new member, Mr. Arsenal. So, um, the board had actually originally started looking at these rigs in, uh, before CO actually and Andrew Shepard was kind of the the one that presented them to the board. Uh, he was interested
in in trying to kind of remove uh, styrofoam from the waist stream just because there's no good way to get rid of it. It it lasts forever. It's just not not great. So, um, he had got this rake from another pittier town and then the board started looking over it. CO
happened and it went away and then a resident came back to Carla fairly recently and asked if we could kind of start taking a look at it again. Um, so town council reviewed it. That's I think you've got a copy that's the red comments on here that that they had
suggested we make. Um and and so we kind of came up with a document that uh would eliminate use of styrofoam for takeout containers. Um also for places like uh Hanniffords or Family Dollar
that sell styrofoam plates, styrofoam cups. Um it just wasn't going to be allowed in in town anymore. And then the most recent conversation started getting into uh alternative materials and what would be acceptable for takeout
containers and and what we wanted to see. And that really wasn't the original intent of the regulations. It was more just to to ban styrofoam. And so you the the board continued the uh the hearing at the last meeting and and that's kind
of where it ended. And and you I think that the discussion where it's going to go has to be you know is the intent intent of the board to create a set of regulations that ban styrofoam in town. Um or is the the intent of the board to write a set of regulations that ask
places to use a particular material and the discussion was recyclable or compostable at at uh you know the restaurants that that use them. And so that would really be like a completely different set of regulations and we'd have to kind of start from scratch on
that. Um and and so you know whenever you you do pick the discussion back up because I think you're not going to discuss it too much tonight. It should be we want to continue to move forward with this set of regulations and then talk about the possibility of creating a
set of regulations regarding the use of compostable and recyclable materials for takeout containers. Um or or do you want to just scrap this and start fresh and try to create something that might address both? May I interject from Yes, go ahead.
Sally Kill. Um so Irene um has kind of coached me a little bit on this. Of course I'm, you know, resident of the town. I don't have a lot of experience with the, you know, the things that Irene does. She wasn't able to be here tonight. Um, but she said the heart of it was basically to eliminate the
polystyrene. And she gave me some documents supporting why that that's dangerous for us to have in our town. It's dangerous for people to, you know, and I I do have some supporting documents if you need some references or anything, but it's dangerous for people to take home and reheat and things like that. So, and it breaks down over many,
many, many years. It's in our and it leeches into our water systems and and um, you know, it's it's really kind of a hazard. So, I guess the heart of it, like you say, was to ban it. Um, we talked last time, I you talked last time about alternatives. Um, Irene said
that's not really the spirit of this at this point. Um, you know, alternatives would be basically as a recycling committee, we need to educate everybody and okay, so if you do have, we talked about the black plastics weren't really recyclable. Well, they're reusable, right? So, we can give education to
people to reuse those products. Um and then more education on what is recyclable, what is compostable. Um but basically in her um coaching she said basically we want to do what we initially went after was to just
eliminate the st the styrofoam in restaurant takeout containers and you know within the town. Um, I think the exception was non-prepared foods like, you know, Hannifford has meat, you know, in styrofoam, you know, that they sell,
but that's not prepared food. And, you know, eventually, of course, that would be eliminated, but this isn't what this is about. And that's just Yeah. So, it would still allow like the cup of noodles and the styrofoam container and things that they buy that
are just, you know, packaged that way. Would you like some time to absorb this? Do you feel comfortable making any decisions tonight? Well, the only I would say is I it I agree with the styrofoam. I'm okay with that. And I think should probably start with the styrofoam and not go any further than
the styrofoam right off the bat as far as bands. So, you in agreement for the banning of the styrofoam then? If it's been on the table for It's been on the table for a while. We never tried to be and I think I think people do want it. Um I would
have to say I would be okay with that if so just the styrofoam. So can we vote tonight on the regulations then for banning styrofoam from the town of towns and with the
exceptions of the of what it's done in Henipers that comes frozen and things like that. You're going to want to pass this through Leo Council again as well. So, if you voted to close the hearing, vote on it, then it would go to town
council. So, uh I I submit a motion to Did we make any change? Uh we did. Okay. Uh, I submit a motion on on approving the regulations per um per any further recommendations from
legal council for the banning of styrofoam in the town of Towns then. I will second that. All in favor say I. I. Okay. And then one of the things that that you because you can still do it
outside of the hearing. Um the hearing is really for public discussion is talk about an effective date. Um because obviously you want to be able to get it out to the the different restaurants and retailers so that they have the opportunity to sell off their inventory and and figure out what they do want to
use. I thought we had talk about January next year. Okay. I think January will that that'll be a good time. They'll give the people six months to to adjust and to Yes. You didn't want it to start until January 1.
Okay. Very well. So, we will continue with that effective date then. 2026. Okay. Uh I submit a motion. Do you want to do 2026 cuz that's a year from now or do you want to do you do want to do January 2026? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Uh I submit a motion. Is any other comments? Anybody in the inter in the Zoom meeting wish wish to comment? Okay. Uh, I submit a motion on closing the styrofoam the public hearing um for
the styrofoam reduction in towns and at 6:34 p.m. All in favor say I. I. Okay. Um, we jump to 1.10. and the tobacco fees from the town of Towns and Recycling Center have been moved for our
next meeting on the 527 um as well as the residential trash discussion at 527 um and GW Shaw and Sun contract proposal move for 527.
um regarding the trash contract. Um the people that were in the town hall uh at at North Middle Sex Division High School town hall meeting um last week um the board of health had presented a proposal
based on the emergency hearing that we had um the week before the meeting proposing the select board and the town for a contract. um that um that included the recommended
contract that the board of health had had had had always approved and recommended to the select board. Um and um there was an issue because just to give a synopsis um the board of
health is proposing to either amend or increase the amount of the revolving accounts that is ma that managed to $800,000 in order for us to administer and manage the the pay the the the pay
as you throw program which would still include the payments the the sale of uh of of of the trash bags and pay a yearly fee of $125 yearly.
And um this and we and the finance committee had agreed to um help with a contract um less than 200,000. I don't have the numbers right now uh in front of me um for uh from
stabilization to work on the implementation of this of of this program which um won't count from the town's um um levy to put it that way. Um, I am proposing that we need to have
another meeting with the public and most likely have a meeting, a joint meeting if possible with the finance committee next week. Um, this is not an ordinary meeting. This is um part of the
emergency meeting for the trash contract to get input from the community after the meeting and and and um and possibly um possibly helping on writing up a
warrant article for do for for that. Um I am proposing to have this meeting with the community on uh I don't know if my board if um if Todd would be available
um having this meeting on Thursday May the 22nd at 6:00 here. Um I don't know how is your agenda your um that that's okay. Where's the date? I'm
sorry. May what? The May 22nd at 6:00 here at um where the water help meets. It's okay. Are you able to So can we vote on having this meeting? You don't have to. You're just You're going to set up a meeting. So
we're going to set up a meeting and um we will want to have the joint meeting with the finance committee. Yes, it will be a joint com a joint meeting with the public and a finance committee. Okay. um because um we want the public to have
if they have any more input about this and um and I have to say publicly that trash is a matter that is related to the board of health and it should not as I said on that meeting it should not have
been taken away from the board of health and this is a matter of the board of health and the board of will address this situation for the people of Townsen. This is not the Christian show or the Todd show or anybody show. This is for the town of
Townsen. And and what we propose on that meeting, I think it's something very reasonable and not too much expensive as going private. So um so the public is invited
for then May 22nd at 6:00 um and we are in we are we are requesting a joint meeting with a with a fin come with a financial committee there and let's hope they can make it. Okay. So um this would be a great time Mr. chairman to introduce the summer
schedule where Todd's here and talk about how you want to proceed with your meetings going forward because our next meeting is the 27th and then we we typically meet on the 2nd and the fourth Tuesdays at 6 p.m. But we don't know if that's okay with you, John. Tuesday.
Well, starting some September. No, Tuesdays don't work. That's okay. Do you want to take some time and mull over some dates and I can we can deliberate about meeting agendas? It's not an open meeting law violation just to discuss
agendas. Correct, Rick. Yeah, you can talk about dates. Oh, so the two of you can email and the the three of us actually can email and go over the dates because if we're going to set a schedule, it's really good if we're going to keep it this way until
September, that's fine. But then going forward, once we set the schedule, we really want to make sure that we keep it that we don't do, oh well, I got to change it in the summer. I got to change it every season. So, and I was thinking probably um if on July we can go recess
Well, let's all see what happens with the town meeting on the 18th because we might be very busy in the month of July or at least I know I'm going to be. Okay. Um any any other comments,
concerns that anything else? Yeah. Can we talk about the trash thing for a minute or no? I I I wouldn't get too deep into it. But that's what Thursday will be for.
You got to you better propose something. Yes, we did. But for that meeting, the purpose is to get the feedback from the community about what happened on on on that meeting. And um and we already voted on a recommended trash contract
and what was proposed on the on the town hall meeting as well. Um and um we just want to get the f the FIN come with us to um to at least my plan is to have a
document that we can sign together as board board of health and as FINO to have it in writing that we are committed to the proposal which they have verbally had said that they've been they've been in approval with that but I just wanted to have it in writing and have any
deliberations about that because you can say a lot of things through closed doors. But I think that if we have a document written that we can show the people and even the select board because right now the board of selectmen can enter is and according
to the bylaws talks about if contracts of over $5,000 has to be signed together the board of the board of health and the select board. So um and since this is a trash contract, the board of selectment
cannot go without the board of se without the board of health's um blessing or approval. That's how it is. And the people can search on the bylaw about that. So um we can further talk about that um on on that meeting. Uh but
do you have any specific questions about that, Todd? No, I'm okay for no. Okay. Very good. Okay. Um so right now our next um we will have oh one more thing we need to come
up with uh with a date with a joint meeting with the select board to talk about the solid waste regener reform. That's what we're going to do at 7:15. We're going to make that you're going to have that discussion up there where you're going to make the determination
of what when that meeting will be. Yes. But the only thing that I had requested them that was that we were not going to talk about this in that joint meeting. I don't think they're going to discuss it. I think they're going to discuss a
time on when you're going to discuss. Okay. Okay. Okay. I don't think there's going to be any discussion other than when are we all going to get together. Okay. Okay. Fair enough. Fair enough. Okay. Um, so we going to recess our meeting. Motion to recess. Can I I I
submit a motion to recess until 7:15 p.m. Uh, at so that we can continue our meeting at the board of selectman's chambers. All in fair. I I
rec one second. Um, Rick, can we and I'm sorry if you don't know the answer to this, but now that the situation with the agenda has changed, we were going to come back down and do reappoint of officers, which are we're not. Should we make a motion here that after the joint
meeting with the selectman that we will adjourn or should we do it up there with the select? Yeah, you you'll be able to close up there. Close up there. Yeah. So, just take a vote to close the meeting. Okay. So, that way we won't have to come back down. So, we recess at 6:45 p.m. Thank you.