WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 1 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=axpjuwWpcec Part: 1 1 00:00:01.040 --> 00:00:17.119 like to call the water commission's meeting of Monday, June 8th at 700 p.m. to order at 7 p.m. Uh Dcam is recording and will be uploaded to YouTube. Roll call members 2 00:00:17.119 --> 00:00:33.280 of citizens present. Uh roll call of members and citizens present. Manson chair Gerald and Dave >> Dave, superintendent present. Um, I make um Did you get to read the 3 00:00:33.280 --> 00:00:49.120 minutes? >> Yeah. >> Um, I make a motion to approve the meeting minutes of April 13th, 2026 and May 11th, 2026. Do I have a second? >> I'll second that. >> Motion's made second. Roll call vote. 4 00:00:49.120 --> 00:01:05.760 Todd Lansson I. >> Jerus. >> Uh, we do not, as far as I know, have any correspondence. Uh-huh. 7.1. I don't see any >> 7.1. >> Uh 1.7, excuse me. Does Dixles and being 5 00:01:05.760 --> 00:01:21.759 very very tired just kicked in. >> Um 1.7 public comments. There doesn't appear to be any. Uh 2.1 I don't think we have any appointments. Uh 3.1 uh rules and rags. I did get to go 6 00:01:21.759 --> 00:01:38.320 through them. Um, I do like I do have some questions on um 7.2 when we're talking about units defining a dwelling unit. Um, on ADUs, are we going to have a separate 7 00:01:38.320 --> 00:01:54.960 line going to the same property for the additional dwelling unit >> that I've already contacted the uh the um not the planning, the building inspector. Yeah, >> it has to be a separate line. >> Okay, 8 00:01:54.960 --> 00:02:09.280 >> there's no way to answer. It has to be a separate line. >> That's his determination, not >> Well, I said that's the water department will only allow a separate line. >> Okay, >> what do I close out? >> Um, this is uh 7.2 of the rules and regs. 9 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:26.400 Um, so do we want to label that as an ADU has a separate line and put it in there? >> If it's right, if it's un if it's unattached, >> correct? >> If it's attached, it's >> it's like Yeah. No. Okay. But I think 10 00:02:26.400 --> 00:02:42.360 you should put that in there just to clarify it. Put in uh in 7.2. um uh you know uh detached ADU 11 00:02:43.120 --> 00:03:00.239 but if they're going to do that you know they everything holds true for a new building they're going to have to have a tapping permit >> dup duplex is two >> every unit has to have its own tap >> so there's no there's no difference >> I understand I'm just clarifying right 12 00:03:00.239 --> 00:03:34.640 um Okay. Um, hold on. >> Yeah, >> I think that's good. not bu I'm looking for the one I had an initial comment I didn't I apologize 13 00:03:34.640 --> 00:03:54.480 everyone I did not mark it um um 15.3 >> y >> when you say qualified contractor do we every year approve a qualified contractor >> we have a contractor's list >> and it's approved every year 14 00:03:54.480 --> 00:04:11.120 >> right where they say they they give it to us if you we take you off if you if you don't >> Okay. Do we make sure that they have the appropriate insurance and stuff like that? >> Okay. Um do they fill out a form to get 15 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:28.240 on the list? >> No, they just call in like >> they might just uh protect ourselves want to >> think about very simple form listing what they have for insurance, who their insurance carrier is. But again, we 16 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:45.040 cannot dictate on private property. >> If it's the service line, you most certainly can because it does affect the public health. So, what I'm saying is if they're installing a service line, we should have noticed that they have proper insurance and stuff like that. I 17 00:04:45.040 --> 00:05:04.320 I would like to see um that's the only you know that >> we'll make we'll make our contractor's form >> please and make sure that you know like I said the insurance on it and stuff like that um >> do you qualify your materials Dave what 18 00:05:04.320 --> 00:05:20.720 like so 15.4 for all working materials including war services shall be furnished and paid for by the developed love it >> correct >> do we in any sort >> we inspect it >> we I the inspection I I get >> and we have a checklist >> you have a checklist so you've listed 19 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:35.360 the type of materials you require >> correct >> great um >> concluding u what I would do is attach it to the contractor's list so that they they can't say they didn't know if they filled that out and they have a cop copy 20 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:56.800 it. It's there and it's in their face. Um, um, 15.6. The only other thing I would add on that to be honest with you is until such time as the as builds are 21 00:05:56.800 --> 00:06:12.240 delivered, you will not release the project and allow full connection. you know, we won't open the connection to the system until the ass builds are delivered. I I will say, Dave, this is 22 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:31.840 >> 17 uh 156. Um I will say it's very well written. Um it's very easy to read, so someone not as technical as you or I could is going to be able to read it and go with it. Um, >> and uh, ju just so you know, Jess is my 23 00:06:31.840 --> 00:06:53.120 proof reader. So, >> if I do something wrong, she will tell me. >> Um, that was the other thing. Um, well, hydrogen's policy responsibilities. >> Do you cross connection? Do we have anything on cross connection for 24 00:06:53.120 --> 00:07:10.639 irrigation? Um or do we have anything for irrigation as in requiring if they have irrigation they need to have a timer? Um we don't have that. That's that's the building department. 25 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:30.800 They they do we have to okay you do you have to okay an irrigation system? >> No. >> Cuz it's they don't they don't um that's all the time. Maybe we can talk. We'd like to maybe we 26 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:46.560 could have the building inspector here because I'd like to talk to him about that then because >> ifations is a decent demand on the system in stressful times. um water conservation standard states they have 27 00:07:46.560 --> 00:08:02.319 to have a um a rain sensor a working rain sensor um in an appropriate place with a timing device and have to obey bio water restrictions. So the thing I would like to see is is that in writing somewhere um anyone who installs one 28 00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:18.479 without one is asking for trouble anyways. Um, other than that, Dave, those are my only comments. >> Yes, >> I I I commend you. It was very, like I said, was very very very well written. >> We're going to have to do a whole section on irrigation. 29 00:08:18.479 --> 00:08:33.120 >> So, but we'll change we'll change that in another update. >> Okay, that works >> because it might take a little while. >> No, that that's fine. And it it's Listen, these rules and rags are living documents, right? >> So, you what we come up with now can 30 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:49.519 always be changed. um in and updated and stuff like that. >> Didn't mean to hold the floor. Do you have anything to add? >> No, I'm good. >> Okay. >> No, I like the idea of adding that irrigation um >> the section. Yeah. Um >> cuz that seems to be a big question, 31 00:08:49.519 --> 00:09:05.519 especially in the summertime when they get after they get the bill, they want to know why it's so high. It's okay. >> And uh that's why the new meters are are such a godsend >> because 90% of people who have high bills 32 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:24.640 >> are irrigation. >> Of course, we we have some people uh >> um >> that that have leaks in water. >> Let's see. We're at 3.2 the master plan. >> I I'll be honest. I didn't get to go 33 00:09:24.640 --> 00:09:41.279 through much of it. Um, so, um, did you were you able to go through the master plan at all? >> Just to section three, but that's as far as I got with section. >> Okay. >> It's a decent reading. >> Yeah. >> Um, one thing I'll ask about with this 34 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:58.000 now, have we been given a true hydro hydraulic model of the system with this? >> It's in there. >> Okay. But they main control and operate it for us. So if we if we want to add something, we ask them and they can run and tell us. >> All right. >> There's some areas of instability. 35 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:14.240 >> Yeah. >> One's in downtown. But I know that one that's the mixing point. >> Yeah, I know. >> So the the wells compete against each other. >> Not only that, there's different size mains. >> I know that cause what we call century effect rolls there. 36 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:31.839 >> Um >> but we can put that if you're not done. We can put it off. I'd like to I'd like to finish going through it. I I got through some of it. >> We'll just table it for a month. >> Okay. >> And we'll be done with it. >> Um but I'd like to see um Ty Bond if 37 00:10:31.839 --> 00:10:48.880 they could show us the model and and show show us um they should be able to come online and show us the >> working right. But it's read read it first because your questions may be answered. >> Okay. Okay. Good enough. Um did a UDF come with this? Oh, what? 38 00:10:48.880 --> 00:11:03.839 >> Uni directional flushing program. >> That's come separate. >> Okay, >> that was an add-on, but that's after the first. >> Okay, that works for me. Okay, >> those are my only questions and I do apologize for not getting through the whole thing. Uh 39 00:11:03.839 --> 00:11:19.040 3.3 hours of operation change, >> right? We wanted this. So, part of the union contract, uh, we're going to we want to change from 9 to 3 to 8 to 3 to better serve the public. 40 00:11:19.040 --> 00:11:35.839 >> Okay. Um, so long as we don't, um, let's do it on we'll make the change, but if we get too much, I mean, I don't I I hate closing earlier than later because you get people coming home from 41 00:11:35.839 --> 00:11:52.399 work and stuff like that, right? Um, so, um, let's see how it goes. Uh, um, um, do we need to make a motion for that one? >> So, you're going from 9 to 3 >> to 8 to 3. >> Yep. >> We're adding an hour in the morning. >> You're adding an hour in the morning 42 00:11:52.399 --> 00:12:08.720 >> because we get a lot of phone calls from people before they go to work. >> Yeah. >> And so, we're trying to, >> but we can't go past three >> because there's contracts issues. >> Okay. All right. >> Your contract is fine. But we're trying to >> So you're adding an hour to the workday. 43 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:23.920 >> Not adding an hour to the workday. We're adding hour to >> Yeah. But you said 9 to 3 to 8 to 3. >> People get People get here at 7:00. >> Okay. >> So it's not adding to the workday. It's adding to where we service the customer. >> Okay. 44 00:12:23.920 --> 00:12:40.639 >> And then we'll post it on online. >> Understood. And my mis misinterpretation. I >> So this doesn't want to jump into the public agency, right? >> Right. >> Okay. >> We're getting calls anyways, >> right? And we just want to make sure that we just make it 45 00:12:40.639 --> 00:13:00.240 and we post it online so people know we're taking calls at 8. >> I think it's a good idea to take calls at 8 in the morning. >> And it shows everything, >> right? >> See, >> it doesn't cost us anymore. 46 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:19.279 >> Cost us nothing >> because they're here at seven. >> They're here at seven. Two of them may have some one's marinate. >> Okay. So, >> the uh I understand why we need to amend the motion. It doesn't change the amount. 47 00:13:19.279 --> 00:13:36.480 She's uh >> ju just uh use that whatever they say on that sheet. >> Yeah, I know. >> And and and just say just like that. >> It's the same amount. Do we say that >> it's we say that? >> So we have to say this amount 48 00:13:36.480 --> 00:13:51.760 >> and do we say what number >> 6,000 uh 6,4 this one an abated amount of this for the property and enter into a payment plan? Um has she said how many years she can do or 49 00:13:51.760 --> 00:14:07.199 >> she started. >> What's that? >> Has she started? >> Yeah, she's been she paid a couple thousand already. >> Okay. >> And so she had >> Okay. So I'm trying. >> Yeah. So what are we doing for the 50 00:14:07.199 --> 00:14:22.639 number of years on that >> right now? I'm not sure about where where >> you don't have to do that. You the only thing you have to do is bait and we'll take care of everything else because I 51 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:42.560 >> So this is the amount we're baiting. >> Okay. All right. I make a motion that we reduce the leak usage to tier one in a in a bait amount of 6,417.54 the property located at 356 Main Street 52 00:14:42.560 --> 00:15:00.279 and enter into a payment plan for a number of years to to be determined >> to be determined. >> Okay. >> Okay. I'll second it. >> Motion's made second. Roll call vote. >> Second. Yes. >> Todd Lson. Yes. Motion passes. Uh 53 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:21.040 >> don't have anything under commissioner's updates and reports, liaison update and reports. Um we have the wonderful Li Shiffren on. You got anything for us, Larry? >> She really do. She looks like mechanical 54 00:15:21.040 --> 00:15:41.040 right now. Are you there, Lori? >> She muted? >> Yeah, she is. She's got her mic off. So, she might she might be at a different meeting. She signed sometime. >> Yeah, there's plenty of more. >> So, yeah. So, why don't we why don't we go over that if she comes back on with 55 00:15:41.040 --> 00:15:58.240 something to say, we will go back to our 6.1 superintendent reports. >> Okay. Uh we got uh two checks from um BSSF and Tao for lawsuit money totaling $97,26547. >> Okay. 56 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:14.720 >> And that so the next meeting we have to have a um a warrant to move it to the water department. So the next town meeting isn't until uh >> whatever whenever they make make one if 57 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:30.160 it's fall or spring. >> It'll sit in it'll sit in an account. >> Yeah. No, I know that. >> Right. Because >> the other one did have we verified that the other one did get moved to the >> They got moved. >> Okay, that works. >> So every time we get checks, we have to 58 00:16:30.160 --> 00:16:46.000 go to town meeting to appropriate the money. >> No, I know. Not appropriate, but you need to move it. >> Yeah. >> Right. But that's uh that's the wording is it has to be approp the money has to be appropriated over >> Dads were you trying to get a hold of me? 59 00:16:46.000 --> 00:17:02.320 >> Yes ma'am. We are at liaison report and I was just asking if you had or you had anything you wanted to say. >> No I'm only listening for your updates. >> Yes ma'am. Thank you very much. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So it it'll the next time meeting 60 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:18.400 there'll be a war article on moving the money. >> Okay. >> Okay. when's the next series of coming in? All right. >> Don't don't know because it it's there's a fifth lawsuit that will be paying I believe in the fall when they move on on 61 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:36.720 to the they're starting on twos now. >> On twos, >> right? Which is testing testing um paying people to test. >> Okay. >> And then there's the u the one where they're going to pay for the building itself. >> Okay. which might take a few years. 62 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:50.799 >> Yeah, >> but we're we're going to we're going to anything. >> Yeah. No, I get it. >> There was a date. So, they're going to pay up to $14.9 million or they're taking consideration 63 00:17:50.799 --> 00:18:06.960 cuz that's what we spent at the deadline by the deadline. >> Okay. >> But we owe we owe less than that on the building. >> Okay. All right. Tank cleaning will be the first few days of July. 64 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:22.240 >> I'm sorry. What did you say? >> Tank. >> They're going to do the inspection and they're going to clean the bottom of the tanks. >> When are we painting those again? >> Well, we're p washing. We didn't inspected it. So, we're going to paint next year instead because I'm p we're 65 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:38.080 paving. >> You can you can paint island, but you have to hire someone to do >> right. So this year we're I had to take care of some paving out there. >> Yeah. >> So we're paving around the tank. >> What? Highland or 66 00:18:38.080 --> 00:18:53.280 >> Highland? >> Okay. >> It's Pittsburgh stuff. >> Okay. >> We're paving around Highland where there's a drain that doesn't work because it's not pitch. So part of the paving is pitching to the to a drain. >> Um can you get highway to help you with 67 00:18:53.280 --> 00:19:08.400 that or >> No, no. The the p is going to do it. >> Oh, okay. All right. So it's it's not bad. We got a good price. Fence at Harbor Trace will be done the second week of July. >> The fence on Walnut will be done the 68 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:23.760 last few days of July or the beginning of August. Most likely the beginning of August. >> Could you do me a favor? >> Yeah. two weeks out. Can you send the abutters a letter just saying we're >> continuing our our our uh 69 00:19:23.760 --> 00:19:40.400 >> protection of protection of the Oh, goodness gracious. >> So one >> in the fence will be going up on walnut, >> right? So we're taking off >> not changing the post. We're taking off the fence because it's or it's been 70 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:55.360 >> black fence and you're putting the green fence up. >> The black fence. >> Black fence. Just like so. >> Is it just the one area we're doing there or are we doing >> between all all walnut? We'll detach black fence with black fence. >> How much area again? How long is walnut? 71 00:19:55.360 --> 00:20:11.760 >> Well, 400 ft. So, we did 100, we're doing 300. >> Okay. So, all right. I think it would be best to send neighbors. >> I I think just so it all be >> just so it doesn't show up. Right. >> I I want to I want to I want to if you could send us an email when those 72 00:20:11.760 --> 00:20:28.799 notices go out so that both of us know. >> Y >> then we'll put post it on Facebook. >> Yep. >> Okay. >> So power Washington Highland. >> Yep. >> Lunberg just for your information Lunberg voted down. 73 00:20:28.799 --> 00:20:44.000 >> I saw >> 33 to 356. >> It's because no one in town shows up. And it's all the Hickory Hills people that they're afraid the well is going to drain down late, >> right? But they they 74 00:20:44.000 --> 00:21:01.120 >> there there's more to it than that. So part of it is they were going to more than double their water bills. >> And they came out they actually came out with that information. Well, I I Well, it in defense of the Lunberg Water 75 00:21:01.120 --> 00:21:17.919 District, they voted down the opportunity to have 0% interest and principal forgiveness. Not two years in a row. Now, you're talking about you can get SRF, but it's going to be at 2%. And you have to pay interest. They don't do 76 00:21:17.919 --> 00:21:34.799 what they did >> and there's no more forgiveness. >> Also, they have to add they had to add a green sand plan, >> right? because well the thing is they're going to get an acco because they're their manganese levels are above.3 >> right so that that didn't go well for 77 00:21:34.799 --> 00:21:52.400 them so don't be surprised and then they're not they're not in a rush >> no but if they if they come to us to buy water that's something we we really need to think >> if you their commissioners >> well and then the other part of it is 78 00:21:52.400 --> 00:22:08.240 I you know just So, we're transparent. They're going to need to pay for the permit. And when I say permit, I mean the water management act permit >> and they're paying for the water lines. >> Yeah. Well, that that's a given. They have to pay for the infrastructure, >> right? 79 00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:26.080 >> But I do not want to incur the costs of of management act permit because we don't have ne we have the quantity, we have the capability, correct? We just don't have the legal limits to send to them. >> Right. So if we're going to send to them, they need to pay, I think. 80 00:22:26.080 --> 00:22:41.919 >> So right now, we're just going to wait for them. >> Yeah. No, I agree. >> And we No more speculate. >> We're not going to speculate. Let them come to us. >> Yep. >> And I'm just bringing this up so you know what's going on. >> I'm fairly aware. 81 00:22:41.919 --> 00:22:58.559 >> Could they go to another town? >> Vitsburg turned down. Lemon turned them down. It's the only two they can go to. >> They can't go to Shirley. >> Shirley has water. Shirley has no water. Shirley approached us. >> Oh, really? >> Shirley has a they have a small well 82 00:22:58.559 --> 00:23:16.559 system. Uh it's not it they're growing residential population can't be >> so they have their own problems with that, >> right? They didn't approach us. >> So has their own area >> air does. Yes. >> Rotten does. Yes. Rotten's pretty much 83 00:23:16.559 --> 00:23:32.559 they're taking on about as much as they can because because they've gone north to the high school and I believe they're connecting to Dunable to help Dunable and Pepp they're all connected. >> Yeah, they're all connected together. I don't know. And that's probably about 84 00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:48.480 all they're going to be able to do. >> I'm going to say yes. >> Um so, you know, they're they're kind of stuck. Yeah, they really are now >> cuz Lemonson doesn't want to give many because of >> Well, they're growing. >> They're growing and their business their industrial side is growing. >> Growing. Yeah. 85 00:23:48.480 --> 00:24:03.840 >> Um same with Fitchburg. >> Um All right. Um finding water is the next big >> deal. >> Yes, it is. >> Um >> that's why we have Hush. >> Yeah, we need it. >> If we need it. 86 00:24:03.840 --> 00:24:21.120 >> What's the water quality then, Dave? We don't know because nobody kept the records of when they put the test wall in it. We have to do we have the same thing as we did with the bedrock over at Main Street. We'd have to redo >> I have to do everything again. >> Okay. >> But I did that in 2 years. So 87 00:24:21.120 --> 00:24:37.120 >> no, it's we didn't really have a choice. So we needed to do it >> otherwise we couldn't build this. >> I I Well, that the other part of it is I don't think um D will let us do it as quickly. They knew we needed that for here. So, 88 00:24:37.120 --> 00:24:52.400 >> right. But it's it's it's fine because it it's something that we have in our down pocket that >> it's a good one. Um and that's why the conservation restriction is so important. >> Yeah. >> So, all right. >> So, 89 00:24:52.400 --> 00:25:08.880 since April, water usage has doubled and it just from last week is up 28%. >> Okay. Um, one thing I will say, I'm not, you know, we're not, we can 90 00:25:08.880 --> 00:25:25.440 supply what we're doing right now, but we're the area is in I think it's we're in a three. Yeah. Either two or three. Two or three. What I would like to see is people abiding by it as best as 91 00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:41.200 possible. But the commercial buildings, um, the Dunkin Donuts on Elm Street, they blow water all day long. The thing is, it doesn't shut off. It comes on like every two hours. Could you stop in and have a talk with the manager and 92 00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:56.799 >> there's no there's no >> correct. >> But during the middle of the day, it doesn't do any good and it it's continuing >> the same way. >> What are they doing realizing what's happening there? So if you drive by at like 11:00 in the morning, right, 93 00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:12.720 >> the irrigation system. Okay. All the time. >> Okay. All right. >> And that's the other one. Could you please Bailey's >> Bailey's >> um you know, >> is it Bailey's or is it that whole >> It's the up top part. >> Yeah. So whoever 94 00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:30.080 >> whoever manages the property needs to Right. >> So you talk to Bailey say, can you talk to the management company and get it under control? we can high it's a high vis so we can't ask residents >> to conserve if if everybody else 95 00:26:30.080 --> 00:26:46.080 >> correct >> so those are those are the two that I see the worst um you know there are exemptions so like if it's part of your business like uh farms nurseries that sort of thing >> athletics fields are because it's a liability concern you have to keep the 96 00:26:46.080 --> 00:27:03.039 fields in playable condition >> certain town I don't see the town watering the fields. They're they're common or anything all that much. >> I don't think they >> I don't think they do at all. So, but areas like that are allowed because it's considered a public cooling place, but I 97 00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:19.279 don't see >> um >> I don't think we're >> the police department on 13th. Do they water at all? >> 3:00 to 5 in the morning. >> All right. >> They cut they cut they cut way back because uh >> the bill >> the bill. >> Okay, then I'm good with that. That's 98 00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:33.600 the reason why the bills >> and they didn't they didn't believe me when I told them that it was their irrigation >> and I brought in I said here here's they do every other day and I said well here's someone going to the bathroom at 1:00 in the morning cuz it was three 99 00:27:33.600 --> 00:27:50.159 gallons and they flushed the toilet and I said here's the next day you you used 1500 gallons of water. >> So >> there wasn't somebody flushing the toilet all that long. >> So they cut they cut back on on the time. It's better for to be honest with you, it's almost better for the lawn cuz 100 00:27:50.159 --> 00:28:06.559 the deep what the the deeper the roots get, the more healthier the grass is cuz that acts as your sponge. But be that as it may, I don't want to run rough shot on the resins. But I do want to make sure >> the business is our main street. >> Yeah. 101 00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:23.200 >> All right. So the next one is we're now under 600 m. We're in the five 500s which is 28% of >> meters left to change up. >> So you're getting about 2 and 12 years. >> Are they the ones that we haven't changed out? 102 00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:40.080 Are they not AMI? >> They're they're they're all radio. >> They're all Even the ones we're changing out are radio are. >> Yeah, but they're they're the old radios. >> Okay. >> The meters are old. >> No. No. that I get that that I understand what you're saying. 103 00:28:40.080 --> 00:28:56.320 >> I just for my own frame of reference, are they the same radio as what we are putting in? >> No. >> So, are we getting leads off those or are they drivebys? >> They're they're the ones you have to get within 4 or 500 ft. 104 00:28:56.320 --> 00:29:13.039 >> All right. So, the app so they're the drivebys you have to drive by and it doesn't report automatically back. >> Correct. >> Every 90 days. >> Yep. So that's when when we leak. >> So those people don't get the benefit of the leak detection >> leak detection of the um ion water app 105 00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:28.799 and things like that. >> So I did get a call from M MS Metals on Tra. >> Oh, >> okay. >> So he wanted to know the reason why we have to change mus because he didn't want to change. He got he got a third 106 00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:45.679 letter a second letter saying you could be fined and I said that's because I got a letter from the state to telling me to change all the meters >> which is true. >> And he said that's not a reason. I said the reason is the state has told me to 107 00:29:45.679 --> 00:30:00.960 change all the meters. >> And he and he he said that's not a reason. You're lying to me and I have a problem. So, what is what is our step-by-step process? >> He gets fine. He gets a letter saying you're going to find 108 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:17.760 >> within like 2 weeks if you don't see >> within a month, 30 days. >> Okay. Um, all right. We'll see how that goes. >> So, the other reason that we change meters is we have to verify that there is no lead. >> Yes. 109 00:30:17.760 --> 00:30:32.320 >> In the service lines. >> So, there was it. So that you know there's a change to the lead and copper rule and we have to verify through material survey what the service line metals are even if we know they're 110 00:30:32.320 --> 00:30:49.600 mostly copper or plastic we have to verify >> and we're we take pictures of every service. >> The other is is you're well by state law we're supposed to have access to the meters so we can um inspect them and 111 00:30:49.600 --> 00:31:04.720 things like that. So let him send actually you know what send them the mass general law along with the third notice. Send them the mass general law that we have the right >> the legal right to inspect the meter. >> Yeah. I don't think that we're going to 112 00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:20.240 we're going to see what happens >> and and he he'll get one that says that you're going to be fined. >> But once we get to the >> What's the fine? >> It's $50 or it's actually um a unit charge. >> Is that $50 a day? If you put it all over the 113 00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:35.520 >> A quarter, it get gets out to the bill. >> All right. >> Does it go up as we go along? >> It goes up when you change the unit. >> It's saying no. >> No, I I >> No. So, what's going to happen is once 114 00:31:35.520 --> 00:31:52.080 right now we get 500. We only get 250 m a year. Once we get down to 100, people are going to get shut off. >> All right. That's what I was wondering where at what point. But that should be going back to the rules and ranks. >> It's in there >> on the shut off. 115 00:31:52.080 --> 00:32:08.240 >> You're going to shut off for non-compliance. >> Okay. That then you just answered my question. I'm good with that. >> Right. So once we get to the front, the last >> What section is that in Dave? >> It it's I can't remember. >> The only thing I would do on something like that where it's a shut off, 116 00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:22.799 >> I would reference the mass general laws that say that we're supposed to have access to it. So just so you have legal st. Do you know what I'm saying? We we'll send him a letter at that at that time. But right now, >> hopefully it won't get to that point to be quite honest. >> Right. We're we're still a couple years. 117 00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:39.840 I'll And I if if we have 500 people, I don't want to be shutting people off. >> No, it it's shutting is is the last absolute resort. And I I understand that. I just I want to make sure we have that it's in writing of why the how and the why. 118 00:32:39.840 --> 00:32:55.760 >> Right. >> All right. >> Right. Um, we've got a lot of inquiries about services. 182 South Row is going to be changing the um adding a service. >> Mhm. >> But that's at Old House. 48 Westm is one 119 00:32:55.760 --> 00:33:12.320 of the They're putting a buy in with an apartment in it. >> Yeah. >> They have they're going to put a separate line in. >> What number? West. >> Um, what? West. >> Yeah. >> 48. >> Okay. >> 53 West Meadow. They just approved two lots. the town did. 120 00:33:12.320 --> 00:33:26.799 >> Okay. >> So, they're going to be putting two lots on West Meadow. Um, Hannes Road, they the town put out for RFP. >> Yeah. >> And I know one person has contacted me and they're and they're looking >> RFP for what? 121 00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:44.240 >> For H the prop the 3acre parcel in Hanes Road >> affordable housing. >> Okay. But I just needed to know what the RFP was. So then they're going to move on to the other one on Hannes Road which is 30 something acres but it's um so this piece of land is 122 00:33:44.240 --> 00:34:01.679 across the street from Trophy >> where >> Trophy which we have water. >> Okay. >> So and >> the street trophy. I was thinking the business trophy >> which is off which is off of Hanes Road. I >> I get that. I'm just tired dude. Yeah. >> So that that that looks like the I know 123 00:34:01.679 --> 00:34:18.480 that person's putting in for 16 units. All right. These just duplexes. >> Yeah. Just like >> Can you Can you >> Each one has their own >> 16 units out of 32 >> what? >> 16 units. 124 00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:34.079 >> 16 units or A2 plexes. >> Oh, okay. >> A2 pluses. 16 beds per unit. >> That's Can you >> We're not there. We're not there yet. It's our our >> We'll get that when the plan comes 125 00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:49.119 because we need to start with this sort of development. Dave, you need to start seeing what you have for daily peak. >> Yeah. >> And talk to Ty Bond about it. >> Do your math. See what's going to be added. 126 00:34:49.119 --> 00:35:05.520 Um but the residentials aren't that bad. But where our volume, our permanent volume, >> right? We're only at 400,000 for that's at 720. A house isn't let's say you have four people in it. >> Well, if you have three bedrooms, you 127 00:35:05.520 --> 00:35:22.000 get five people get three. Get up. >> Yeah. So, I mean it can add up quick. We don't I would say we can chew chew up that last was 3.5 or 35 excuse me cuz we're only we are registered and permit 128 00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:37.599 in total is 75. >> Right. But just so you know, if we're at 400,000 on average, 10% increase is only 40,000. >> Correct? Yeah. But see what you're >> where how hard you want to push this. 129 00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:53.440 >> So you need to know your peak volumes. Correct. So, all I'm saying is just make sure you're doing the math and tracking what's coming, what we have already going out the door >> in terms of water and how much more we would add to it because the more stream we put on this, the more operational 130 00:35:53.440 --> 00:36:10.160 costs will be. All right. >> But right now, it's it's negligible amount of water. >> Okay. But no, I get that the but when we start getting into the 30 acre um I know there's a big one on Blood Road. They're talking about one on city old city. 131 00:36:10.160 --> 00:36:27.440 um behind Fitchburg on Fishburg Road there. >> Yeah, but that's that's a few years. So, >> like I said, just >> keep a track so we know where we stand. >> So, also 324, which is a gas station across the Spalding school. 132 00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:42.240 >> Yeah. >> Will be torn down in October >> because it takes um 8 uh 10 to 12 months to get detention. They are detained. So they wanted the the gas station. >> So it's going to be a new gas station and 133 00:36:42.240 --> 00:36:57.599 >> and donut shop >> in a donut shop >> and there's going to be an office upstairs. >> Since I'm losing weight, I don't care about donut shop, >> right? >> And then for Main Street is is uh I'm just waiting when they're going to file. >> Okay. 134 00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:16.079 >> But I heard one of the units is an auto zone >> for what? For >> auto zone. Where's Where's Floren Main Street? >> To the left of Starbucks. >> Oh, that open area. That's all wetland. How 135 00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:32.960 >> No, it isn't. That that open area is the retention pond. It's to the left of that retention point. >> No, I know that. But >> there's no The wetlands are way back. >> Okay. >> So, there's going to be a >> What? >> Where's he going to be? >> There's going to be two two buildings 136 00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:48.000 here. One of one of them I heard is going to be an autois the pastel. >> Mhm. >> We don't have one in town. That would be nice. >> Um >> all right. So the next we flushed the raw water today. >> Okay. 137 00:37:48.000 --> 00:38:03.920 >> Just to keep all the seven out. >> No, the one from Harvard Trace or Okay. >> Both of them. >> Did and you did which is book. Okay. >> It took a while to get the lot. >> Yeah. No, that one I was curious. That's why I was asking how long how long did it take to flush from 138 00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:20.320 >> It took a half an hour to get the discoloration here. >> Okay. >> Then it took it like 2 minutes from from there. But we got a lot of the white material out from that was in there before because we pushed 1,000 gallons a 139 00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:36.720 >> a uh minute out of there. >> Okay. And then >> so you'll notice there's a thing about the new hearing for for uh >> yeah for the EPA. >> So P4 and POS are not changing. It's 140 00:38:36.720 --> 00:38:52.400 still going to be four. >> They only the the Gen X and the hazards could be eliminated. >> It well could be. But here's the deal. That's EPA, >> right? Mass D has primacy, meaning they make 141 00:38:52.400 --> 00:39:08.079 all decisions on drinking water. Um, they don't necessarily have to change it. >> There you go. >> So, all right. You know, it'll be interesting to see. I do know that for you have to qualify, but I think you can extend out two more years. 142 00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:24.079 >> That's part of Not yet. That's part of the the bill the bill >> that you can apply for two more years. >> Yes. To qualify, I think, >> right? You have to be doing something. >> Yes. Um I saw something really good on 143 00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:40.240 it. Um >> it's in there. >> No, I know. Um any what else? Anything else? >> That's it. >> Okay. Um can I borrow your copy of the agenda cuz I misplaced mine? And 144 00:39:40.240 --> 00:39:58.400 >> there we go. There we go. All right. 7.1 schedule next quarter selection. Uh yeah, perfect. Water commission's meeting. >> Can you delay that for a week? >> What? To schedule the meeting >> because we have we have the end of years end of the years that it may take it's 145 00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:14.079 going to take another week to have that. Otherwise, you have to have a second meeting. >> All right. Hold on. >> Joy. >> I have no problem with that. I just need to see what you know just a week on the 14th. Oh, no. I can't go to the 14th. 146 00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:30.160 I'm going to be in Boston. would be the 13th. >> 13th 13th. Okay. >> London. >> That'll be >> Yeah, cuz I'm not here the following week. >> Okay. >> I turned 60 and my wife's taking me to Nashville. >> Good. That sounds like fun. Happy 147 00:40:30.160 --> 00:40:48.720 birthday early. >> Thank you. >> Uh the 13th works for me. >> Is that July? >> Yes, ma'am. Oh, we should have asked you if you could attend. I apologize. >> No, that's okay. Don't worry about me. 148 00:40:48.720 --> 00:41:06.079 Um, I think I'm fine. I do the best I can with my multiple boards here. >> We appreciate it, Lori. We do in all honesty. Um, okay. So, we have that done. 7.2 149 00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:23.200 7. Uh, I make a motion that we review monthly abatement adjustment list. Review and approve end of month reports and sign reports and bill payable warrants out of session. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Motion's made and seconded. All in 150 00:41:23.200 --> 00:41:41.200 favor? I don't think. >> Motion passes. Um time >> which is that one right there. >> Okay. Um, I make a motion that we um, 151 00:41:41.200 --> 00:41:57.839 what is it? Oh, close the meeting at 7:43. >> Did we set the date? >> Yeah, the 13th. >> 13. >> Okay. I I didn't hear the vote. We had We didn't vote. We don't have to vote on it. >> So, all right. >> You want to vote on it? Vote on. 152 00:41:57.839 --> 00:42:11.440 >> We're on We're on It's on the 13th. >> It's on the 13th. Um, I make a motion we close the board of water commissioners meeting of Monday, June 8th at 7:44 p.m. Make a second. Motion 153 00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:19.280 >> made second. Todd Todd Blson I think. Thank you everyone.