Good afternoon. This is Carol Hoses, uh, chair of the capital planning committee, and I'd like to call the meeting to order at 12 noon. And can I get a roll call? >> Jer Bazik is here. >> Kathleen Spford here, >> Robell here,
>> Carol is present. Um, is anyone else online recording um this session? hearing none say no one else is recording this meeting will be recorded and uploaded to the YouTube
um so there are no additions or deletions and I guess has everybody looked at the minutes had a chance to look at the minutes
if not if I brought a copy if you need to take a minute to look at Now, what about the minutes for the 24th? I sent those to you. >> Did you not approve those? >> No,
>> you didn't. Oh, I forgot. forgot about them then. >> Okay. >> Um All right. Did everybody >> But I sent them to you after this was posted. >> Did I bring the one wrong ones?
>> No, the 20th are the ones that we're doing. >> Oh, okay. Well, this one is the 24th. >> Oh, that's the wrong ones. Here's the Here's the 20th. >> Oh, okay. Because they all look familiar, but they Okay. Um, I wonder if
I can Can I go back and >> add >> add the 24? >> Sure. Okay. >> Yeah, I think I'd vote on them separately, but um because we're disbanding today, >> I would think that you can vote on both
of them. >> Yeah, >> but just individually. >> Yeah, that's fine. Okay. Even more, >> you could shoot me if I didn't put them on the agenda, but >> we'll vote on them because I can't see coming back just to approve minutes.
>> I know that's the thing that's weird is so you have a meeting, you take >> are we going to disband or are we going to or they not continuation, but is there a possibility we'll have to meet again?
>> For what? I don't know. You never know. >> Well, when it come to Sabrina, I think we can just stand because I don't know what else there is to talk about. Um >> Okay. >> I mean,
yeah, I don't know what >> Yeah, because we have the capital uh projects that were presented. We voted on it, gave it, and we already handed it off to the select >> and so now it's in their lap to figure out what they're going to do with it.
>> So, um, all right. So, can I entertain a motion to approve the minutes of February 20th and 24th? I'll make a motion to accept the minutes of February 20th. >> Second. >> Okay.
>> Jerus, yes. >> Kathleen Sparford, yes. Robula, yes. And Carol says, yes. And now, do we have a motion for the minutes of the 24th? >> I make a motion we approve the minutes of February 24th. >> I'll second those.
>> Robel, yes. >> Gerald, yes. >> Kathine Sparkford, yes. >> Carol Hoses, yes. >> Okay. Okay. So, that's good. So I did the only reason I put down discuss
the budget was only because >> oh >> the minutes I gave you >> I gave them back I gave them >> Oh yeah cuz I'll turn them in with this. >> Okay. >> I just need um >> Okay. >> I just need to turn these in.
>> Do you have these? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I just need to turn those in. I have that I think >> somewhere. >> So, this is also >> what you have is um
I I'm not really sure, but Don had just when I asked Don what I do with this five-year plan, and he just said I updated the spreadsheet. So, >> this is what I did. Um, >> and it's on the back, too.
>> Yeah. >> I just doublesided it. >> And this is based on a meeting with a selectman. And >> Yeah. And then I I took And then I Yes. And then I took all the everybody's input because I put them out to the years
>> and some of the inputs actually had FY26 which has already been approved. So I just left I just captured it. I guess next year that column will fall off. Yeah. >> Um, but if uh
and I just kind of just did a quick little under the recommendation, I just kind of did a little cookie from the notes we had from the meeting that we did at um the select with the
select board. >> Okay. So, everything goes. Okay. I don't know how they're going to do the foundation, not do the foundation in the chimney until 28. >> Well, that's their problem.
>> Well, that's next year's problem, I guess. I guess I I I looked at it, but I said that's where he had put it and >> Well, that's where it'll leave it. >> Well, yeah. And we're waiting for the study anyways. in the study anyways. And then >> when the capital planning committee
meets next year, they'll be looking >> looking at that and maybe it'll be I mean at some point hopefully the study will >> yeah should address >> should address a lot of that and
>> and then you're going to know whether you're going to cry because the foundation needs some work done because you know You need the foundation. >> Without the foundation, >> you need the foundation. >> Forget the windows. >> Forget the windows. Go in the foundation. But um
>> that's why I was looking at the chimney >> in the chimney too report. >> Well, I was wondering if the has the insurance company come and said something about the chimney or is that just something we just happen to know for a fact? >> I don't know. >> Oh, why would the insurance company?
>> Oh, because they would say, "No, we're not insuring you anymore." If it wasn't >> if it wasn't safe if it wasn't safe. Yeah. So hopefully they >> I don't know. I don't know when was last time they came out. >> Yeah. I don't know. >> So you don't know if the insurance is in
effect? >> Well, it probably is in effect because I don't think they've been out and but where is he saying it needs to be redone? I'm >> wondering as to what really condition the chimney is in.
>> Okay. Well, here I know you have to repair those. >> Well, let's put it this way. When do you think the last time it was repaired? >> 30 years ago. When you did the >> Were they repaired it the last time? >> Maybe. >> Maybe.
>> Maybe. >> Okay. Just cross our fingers again. >> Okay. Um, it's not. No. >> No. But you don't want the chimney to collapse either cuz then you won't be covered.
for that pot anyway for cleaning or cleaning machine. >> What's underneath these? What's underneath this rug? >> Probably plywood or something. >> You think it's plywood? Do you think it's real? >> No, because this is the addition.
>> Oh, this is the addition. >> Yeah. When they redid the >> the hall. >> Okay. So, but it was >> when did they do the additional? How many years ago? >> It was almost 30 back in the late 90s. >> Yeah. We probably wouldn't have put
>> Yeah. They would have put tab over it if it was >> Yeah. Yeah. They lost your bed. >> Lot of stains on this rug. >> Oh my god. Okay. rain. I mean, they could >> because it's a flat roof, >> but the tiles look okay.
>> Yeah, >> they don't look >> they spilled maybe. >> Oh, well, they eat lunch in here for during election time. So, >> could be >> you can get food spilled on the or just bringing in the from outside when it's
wet out, right? Yeah, that tracking this dirt >> replace. When is the library senior center carpet? What are they doing there? They're replacing it. >> Yeah. >> How old is that building? >> Well, that's 20 years old. >> It is.
>> So carpets I mean the carpets in here, they're 30 years old. So or going on 30. >> How about the ones in the in the hall, main hall? >> I think those are original to when we >> Really? Yeah. >> Wow. >> But they used to have them rolled up,
removed, and cleaned and brought back. >> And they don't do they haven't done that in years. >> Well, that's too bad because they probably last long. >> Those are very nice rugs. >> Oh, I know they have. >> Yeah, that's too bad because if they're really good rugs and all and you can clean them.
>> Well, the thing is dirt is what dirt is what kills >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I know. But if that was a part of a maintenance that would have extended the life of the carpeting just >> but they keep they keep taking from the maintenance account. >> Yeah, they do. They just keep taking
everything away from it. So >> I I know but at some point you know we're going to be in such >> Well, we already we going to get >> Oh yeah. Yeah, it's true. >> And there is the back side. So
I did try to contact the library. I forget which meeting we were at. Somebody mentioned that they thought they had a $25,000 maintenance. I >> think that was Tuesday. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But I haven't heard back from Stacy yet. I sent her an email asking
>> Well, you wonder if they rolled it into their regular >> Well, I just asked her. I said, "I heard that they may have I said, "Is it, you know, is it available and can we use it for the roof, >> but I haven't heard back from her yet?"
>> And she wasn't in when I stopped by the library the other day, >> so I don't know if she's off somewhere. >> Hopefully, she is at some place warm. >> Yeah. Guess it is what it is.
>> It's all this maintenance and it hasn't been kept up over the years. And that's the thing. I mean, >> well, towns are >> it's Yeah. >> I mean, a lot of the towns are, I think, but it's still not right. And I really think if they would do just aside a year,
>> yeah, something >> and look, you know, really look at it and say, okay, what needs to be done? Does any s need to be replaced or >> hopefully the study that they're going to do is going to help us with that. I >> I hope they found the one that was done a couple years ago. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah, that would be good. A couple years ago, they had put um they had said to do the exterior windows to protect these >> glass. If they found >> I don't know how they How old do you think that study was? How many years?
>> Maybe two. >> Joe Shank was um he was the one that wanted it done and he was a select at this time. So >> I would say about two years ago. So why are we doing a study if we had two years old?
>> Well, from what Karen said, he is going to look for the study. Veronica thinks she has it still >> and they were going to look at it to see if it's really a complete study that they can use. Otherwise, they're going to ask for bid specs and stuff like that.
>> Like that. Yeah, that's right. That's right. So, >> they could just go to whoever did it and say, "Can you update this now?" >> Yeah. And it wouldn't be as extensive. >> Yeah. >> We can have a whole scope of work and priority. >> Did they say how long it was going to
take? Did they give a timeline? >> I think we I think we said it needed to be done by the end of FY27 just to do that. >> Yeah. So, I would think if if they can get the same company to come out, I would think it would be a shorter, >> shorter,
>> less money and get everything they need so they can apply for grants. and >> then know what they're doing. Get some estimates to go for a debt explosion. >> Yeah. >> And I think that's the only way you're going to get the rock done is with the dead explosion.
>> Well, that maybe that's where the information came from on the foundation and the chimney. >> Oh, it probably You know what? I bet it is. >> I bet a lot of this stuff is from there. >> I think it is. That would cut down time. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. But yeah, I'm I'm all about, you know, you could only delay your maintenance. >> Well, that's what I'm very concerned about because stuff falls apart. I mean, >> it does. It like the library or the roof over at the library. I mean, if you
don't get that done, it's only >> I, you know, federal buildings. >> Yeah. there. But I mean, I'm I've worked in federal buildings where >> the roof leaked >> and then part of it collapsed, >> right?
>> And then so so now they have to shut that side of the building off. So everybody's over here >> and and what did it ruin? >> It Oh, it ruined all kinds of all the carpeting and then you got mold and I mean it's just
>> Yeah. And it's all due to lack of maintenance. >> Yeah. That's one thing I have to say about Nishoba Techch. They keep that school up. >> Oh, there's things in that school that are original and they're still using it. >> Yeah. >> Well, you know, part of it is they can
use the kids for the shop. >> Well, they do. That's what they do. >> Hopefully, I don't know if they get some of the companies to come. Maybe they can work and deal with some of those companies to do them maintenance. Yeah.
>> Might be. >> I mean, it's a well-run school. Like I said, my daughter graduated there in 99. >> Yeah. >> Three of my kids graduated. >> Oh, she went to school when my son was there. I think he graduated in 2000. >> Oh, one of them was a teacher.
>> All right. So, yeah. So, I guess this looks >> if everybody's happy with it. Um, >> I'm not sure we need to vote on it from what I can understand from Sabrina because I had asked her that um
could just get attached to the notes of the 24th meeting because it's just a record of >> Yeah. what was discussed and >> where the money shifted to what fiscally. >> Yeah. I mean, this is really not much any different than what was presented at
the >> Yeah. >> select board meeting. It just shows I just >> put all the dollars that were >> that they had uh put out >> to show it all in one. >> You know what I'm looking at though right now is it says $10,000 for the
exterior and then down here it says $50,000 for the study. How many studies are we having? >> Oh, uh, >> that's >> No, that was for the >> cost for the sidewalk. >> That was just the construction cost. >> But have we decided to have they decided
to put the grass back over here and then >> I think I think it was mentioned Kieran said just put that as part of the study. >> Yeah. >> And so is it an additional 50,000 or is it or is that the money? >> That was the 50,000 they asked for and
they didn't know how to change it. Okay, that's the $50,000 to put the grass back. >> That was the $50,000 that he hewalk for the sidewalk. >> But he but then he said something about the grass, which I don't know how much less that was going to be, but now that
>> it's going to be deferred because of the study. I just kind of left it there because I don't know >> what it's going to cost. >> I don't know what it's going to be. Um cuz the only one I changed on the 10,000 was for the study because
instead of doing the 100,000 for the exterior and now doing the 10,000 for the exterior, >> you know, even even if this year if they could just now they put the um plastic on the inside the um
>> take the plastic from the inside, put it on the outside. You know, I wonder if he could do that. Well, it's the same size as the window, >> so they so why not clean it? >> Yeah. I don't know how many they have. I know they have them upstairs on the third floor. >> Oh, they go Do they have them over here? >> I'm not sure. >> I'm not sure.
>> I'd have to go look. >> You know what? I don't think they do. >> Yeah. >> I don't think they have them on the third floor, not on this floor. This is where the big ones are over here. >> Yeah. I'm not sure. >> Or uh do they have them someplace and nobody knows where they are?
>> Oh, that could be true. cuz I thought that was the big deal about saving those windows. >> Yeah, >> it really is. >> I mean, I know that Well, didn't Alisa's brothers repair those windows? >> I'm not sure who did it.
>> And it could be because she did all that leaded glass work. >> Yeah, I think it was I think she was the one that >> Next time we see her, we'll have to ask her. >> Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, that's one thing we want to make sure is we preserve the stained glass windows.
>> I think I should clean them first and then >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, I agree. Before you're before Yeah, >> let's clean them first. >> Yeah, clean them. >> Okay. So, >> because I'm sure they're clean up quite nicely. >> Oh, yeah. That
there's probably years of dirt on them right now. Years and years. Okay. Yeah. The only thing that really stuck out to me was the chimney and the foundation. And I think that was probably on the original study. So that study has got to
be here. >> Yeah, I bet you're right. And I'm pretty sure the windows was on there. >> I think so, too. Well, I wonder would he I wonder if he would have kept any information on that, >> Joe.
>> Oh, I don't know. I wonder. >> I don't know. Either >> somebody has to have it or get in touch with the company who did it because they must have it. >> Somebody's got it. >> Yeah. I I'm sure Veronica has it. I think she's pretty organized and
>> probably has it in a folder. >> Is it in a folder or file? >> Yeah. So, she's just got it located. >> Yeah. >> You know, out of sight, out of mind, but I'm pretty sure she's pretty organized. >> So, what is going to happen this coming year between now and
December? Anything? >> So, they're going to fix the uh sidewalks over at the library senior center. I think they're going to patch it somehow. >> Okay. that engineering study. >> Are they going to Patrick? Are they going to try to replace that? Because he
said it was a drainage problem with the >> It looked like it sounded like once they have the engineering study, >> they might replace the whole thing, right? >> He'll do everything, but he's got to fix it so that it's not a hazard. >> Well, he's got to fix it so it doesn't happen again next year. I mean, just patching it just
>> Yeah. >> doesn't do anything. >> And it got patched last summer or something. Yeah. >> Spring or something. It's all >> right. If they're going if they're going to tear up everything. >> Yeah. They're going to have to dig up. >> They're going to have to dig up parking lot and do the drain.
>> They have to do a bed underneath that before Yeah. You know, they can't just throw dirt on. >> Plus, he said they're going to do electric charging stations. So, they got >> Oh, did they? Yeah. >> They got a trench from the >> Oh, no kidding. >> from the electric room out to wherever those are going to go.
>> So, how do you do that? You put a credit card into the charging station. Is that how that work? >> Is that how it works? >> I don't know. >> I always wondered. >> I know. >> I saw them all buried in the snow up in New York someplace. I was like, "Oh my." >> Yeah. >> You put your card in you wait an hour or
so. So, >> is that what it takes that long? >> Depends on I think it depends on the car. >> The superchargers is 15 minutes or something. >> Oh, really? If it's >> Do you have one of those? >> No. But my brother, >> neither do I. >> My brother's friend because my brother
lives in a teeny tiny town in Maine with no gas station whatsoever. >> And um his friend has a Tesla drove up and then of course the Tesla needed a charge for him to get home. So they plugged it into the barn and it took 24
hours to charge. >> But it must be >> because it was money though. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It must be very expensive. >> Yeah. Your electric bill is >> My electric bill's bad enough. >> No, I don't I don't know how how
>> how it really saves a lot. >> Yeah, >> because you're paying No, you're paying for um >> to the electricity. I don't know. But whatever. Okay,
if everybody's happy with it, um I don't know how happy I was happy with the information that's contained on the uh to be sent to um the finance committee in the in Sabrina. Um,
yeah, we're not happy that we have no money and can't do anything. But if we're happy with the input, then >> yeah, >> then I'll um
I'll send it to the finance committee and Sabrina because that's what she told me to send it to. So, are we I guess we can disband. Do we have to vote on this? No, just we don't have to vote on this, do we?
>> I don't think so. I asked Sabrina that because I asked her like I wasn't even sure we needed to meet except then I realized we had minutes outstanding. I said, "Oh, I will cancel the meeting." >> Yeah. >> Do the minutes.
No, I don't believe we have to vote on it. Um because basically we already did vote on it because it's just the synopsis of what we already voted on. >> That's why I said you just attach it to the minutes. So it's just a record of
>> so what we all did. >> So I would like as chairperson of the capital planning committee to stand the capital planning and for this year. Okay. Okay. Thank you everyone. Okay,
TM, we're all done. >> Uh, we have to adjourn, don't we? >> Oh, yes. I'm sorry. I guess. >> I guess. I don't know. >> Make a motion to adjourn. >> Well, okay. >> No, I just disbanded. What do we adjourn? >> I don't know. I don't know. >> All right. So, disbanded
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