Calling the meeting to order F537. Um, let's do roll call. Remote participants first, please. >> Emily Fine, present. >> My potent
present. And Selena Thomas present. And I apologize. I have wicked allergies. Nothing contagious. That's me and women sound horrible. We are involved there right now. >> Wait a minute. Did I get everybody? Mike,
>> Mike, Valerie, and me. >> What's your last name, Valerie? Sorry. >> What? >> It's at the top of the agenda. >> Okay. And I don't have the agenda in front of me.
>> Is it on there? Maybe. Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. There it is. Okay. Never mind. >> And Todd notified me he couldn't make it
tonight. He's working on an emergency something. Um. Right. >> All right. So, the meeting is being recorded. Um, it will be uploaded to YouTube. Is anyone else recording the meeting? Okay. So, does anyone have any topics
that were not um anticipated within the 48 hour posting time frame? All right. So, then we are on to the minutes from 5:14.
believe I sent them out to everybody. I have to find them here. Did everyone have a chance to take a look? Nope. Sorry. That's the agenda, not the minutes. Did everyone have a chance to take a
look? >> I did not. >> Okay. Um I did I did not see anything that needed any updates. So I have a motion. >> I move that we approve the minutes from
514 2026. >> I'll second >> names. Emily Fine was the first. Mike was the second. Oh, I >> we have to say your you have to say your
name because >> Oh, Mike Pa. Oh, >> there we go. >> All right. Any discussion? Um, like I said, I looked through everything looked good. >> Okay. >> All right. And could we have a roll call
vote, please? >> Emily Fine, yes. >> Mike Pad, yes. Sorry wasn't here. And Selena Thomas, yes. Okay. >> All right.
>> All right. So, meeting business. Um because we just had a uh new member join, we need to reorganize um nominate and vote on the chair, vice chair, and clerk positions.
Um, Val, just so you know, previously Veronica was the chair, I was the vice chair, and Emily was the clerk. So, I will take nominations for
the chair. >> I nominate Selene Thomas for chair. >> I'll second that. >> All right. Um third it. >> Okay. Um I will accept the nomination. Uh I think what I'm going to do is I'm going to get nominations for everything
and then we'll try and do a vote on the group of them. So for vice chair, do I have any nominations? >> Not too many people left. I nominate Valerie Goodriz to be the
vice chair. >> Good move. I'll second that. Mike P. >> There you go. You accept the nominee. >> Okay. And I'm new new in this game, but I can pinch a meeting if Selena is not here.
Do I have a nomination for clerk? I'll nominate Emily Fine. >> Seconded. Okay. So, Mike Pom. >> Second. >> All right. Do you accept the nomination?
>> Yes. >> With a little enthusiasm, please. >> I'm writing. I'm busy. All right. So then I will take a motion to approve the slate. Um Selena Thomas, chair, Valerie Goodrich, vice chair, and
Emily Fine, clerk package second. >> That was Valerie. >> Yep. >> Second. Mike P said second. >> All right. Roll call vote. >> Emily Fine. Yes.
>> Mike P said yes. Yes, >> Selena Thomas. Yes. >> Okay. >> All right. Reorganized. Excellent work, everyone. Okay. So, next up is the conservation
restriction document. Um, North County reviewed it and came back with some edits, >> which I hope doesn't mess everything up, but >> I don't think it does.
>> Good. >> I just have to make sure I open the All right. So, Anna, do you want to talk about your edits? >> Yeah, sure. If we can just scroll down to the um I mean, I guess so.
Uh let's see. Anything material. Scroll down to anything material and I can talk about it. Uh I think it was in reserved rights. >> That's what I was thinking. >> Yeah. So,
yeah. >> Was it in this section? I'm sorry. I looked at this right after you sent it and now I'm forgetting where things were. >> Yeah. So, it's in section B. It should be B. >> Okay. >> Um, yeah, keep going.
So, right down here. Um, no, keep going. There we go. Okay. So, in this section when I read through it, it really seemed like um there
everything needed the division's approval and so having the grant the grtor's approval or the grant's approval in addition seemed kind of like a moot point. It would be sort of like
we're rubber rubber stamping what the division is saying. So I think if as long as we get notified of the work happening and that the division has approved it, I think that's adequate for
our purposes in terms of making sure that there's compliance within the CR. I don't think then the grtor needs to seek our approval on top of the grant on top of the division's approval.
Does that make sense to folks? >> Yep. >> So that's basically the change that I made there. All right. So >> yeah, any questions or discussion on
that that I can help out with or does it? So So we're eliminating the need to get approval from North County Land Trust as long as there's approval from the
division. Yeah. >> From fish and wildlife. >> Yeah. >> Okay. And it just it basically were they would need to notify us in writing but wouldn't need to seek our approval.
Okay. So the next section is about the foot paths. So this is a um there are existing footpaths. If it this language says and woods roads
I don't think any of the foot paths that are there would be considered woods roads and so I would just remove that language altogether if there aren't any wood roads. But maybe I'm >> okay >> mistaking that. Um,
>> as far as I know, there isn't any road back there, >> right? >> And and if they used to be roads, they've grown in enough so that they're not roads anymore. They're just foot paths, >> right?
So they did um in the in the template from EA it there's a lot of language around trails and trail width and trail all of this stuff about making improvements and you know things that I don't think will necessarily
apply to this property but I want to I so I just summarized that you know new trails are discouraged And um but any change or new trail
feature like say there's like a wet spot that develops and they want to put like a little you know bog bridge like plank over to you know any sort of new trail improvement would have to get um
approved by us. Or say like you want to move the trail from its current location to a different route because the turtle started nesting some place that you know whatever. Um that gives the flexibility of us approving that trail placement
change without um giving a lot of um allowances for people to start making trails willy-nilly or changing what's there. So, as long as folks are okay with that language, um I thought it was a little
there wasn't it needed a little bit more structure. Maybe not all of the structure, but a little bit more structure. There's also um I don't know if foot paths is defined anywhere. And so I just I don't know if
folks want a definition for foot baths. That's the other thought that I had. So I just added a note to uh the comments that says it adds flexibility to reroute the trail if the trail condition becomes unusable.
>> Right. >> And that way Miss Deianne will know why we added that. >> Right. Yeah. Yeah. >> And I was also thinking I was also thinking about ac accessibility like say
you know at some point you know it it just allows flexibility for for changes to happen with the trail that are within the realm of appropriateness. Yeah, >> you know, without getting too just too,
you know, specific so that you're allowing specifically this or but not that or whatever. So, I'm hoping that covers it. >> So, do we just want to put in a definition of foot path or do we want to ask Miss Yan if it needs to be in here?
>> I think I think that's something that EA is going to comment on. Um cuz typically they'll say um like a a maximum width of the trail or um you know so with trail design there's a
there's like an overall width and then there's a tread so like clearing can happen four feet the tread is 2 feet or whatever um for trail maintenance that's typically what's in a template. So, the fact that
this just says foot paths, um, you could put it in the definitions of like foot path is no more than, you know, a tread of no more than 2 and 1/2 ft and and wide and a um corridor of whatever. So,
and I don't know, maybe Miss Anne has a definition for foot paths, but to us it see like to me I I can visualize what a foot path is, but what you want to um avoid is having someone argue this, you know, 10 foot wide thing is a foot path
because, you know, whatever. Um, and not that not that we think anybody who's um drafting the CR now would do that, but um we're thinking just in the future when none of us are involved,
is there a you know, could could someone argue, you know, we need this six foot wide thing because um you know, people's feet are much bigger nowadays or whatever. I don't know. I think that it being described in the
BDR is what kind of says how wide the path is for us. >> Right. >> As described in the BDR. Yeah, >> for sure. >> We can keep it to that. >> Yeah.
>> Which case should it be new pads are discouraged instead of trails? >> Yep. Yeah, I'm just gonna log upstairs so I can interrupt you if I Okay, I'll log in upstairs. Okay, thanks.
All right. Um, was there anything else, Andy, or was it just those two pieces? >> I think that was it. Um, yeah, I think those were the two things. >> All right. And last time we reviewed the
edits for Missianne, so that part is already taken care of. Um, right. So, these are on page seven. Just making note so when I send it back to Miss Deianne, I can color out exactly
where the newer updates are. Okay. So update the documentary today. All right. Um any other comments on the conservation restriction document?
All right. And next up is funding sources. >> Wait a second. I guess uh Selena, one question about the CR is just um are are you all set to submit it to the state now?
>> So, um the next step for the town is to submit it to town council. >> Got it. Okay. I need to check with Mistian and see if she wants it before town council reviews since we made a couple of small edits or
if she just wants it after. >> Okay, great. Selena, I'll jump in here too and um Selena and I had a conversation with um the town administrator interim town administrator and we're hoping that we can put it all
to town council um right at the start of the next fiscal year. So, start of July just because uh we're trying >> Yeah. >> finalize this year's council funding. >> Who do you guys have for town council?
>> Um, Adam Costa. >> Oh, yeah. He seems to do everybody's he's in every town I work in. It's like, "Oh, it's Adam Costa." Oh, okay. Yeah. Great. So, we'll probably have Joe Routolo look at it.
>> Yeah, he usually does their contracts. So, >> yeah, >> we're just trying to be fiscally aware as we get the end of the year here. So, >> absolutely. Yeah. >> Adam's great though. >> Okay. Funding sources,
>> right? Funding sources. So, um I sent out the draft budget to everybody. Um there's a new line item here which is the habitat management plan escrow. Um,
so this was brought up, uh, Dan from LEC mentioned that with the habitat management plan, there's typically an escrow fund to fund doing the maintenance. Um, so it will be
the permit holder who has this escrow account set aside. Um, so I added that as a line item to our project costs. >> Did he Did is that the number that Dan
gave you for like a >> just an estimate or Yeah, >> it's an estimate. Um so one of the uh funding sources
um Emily and Veronica were working on the grant application for um the wild and scenic grant that is uh the applications are due June 1st I
believe it is. So coming up very soon. Yep. So I sent that out to everybody this afternoon. So, Emily and uh Veronica, if you guys want to speak to what you did with this.
>> Yeah. So, we just we um thought we could get Whoops. Why does that that list? Um >> 15. Oh, there it is. Um, we thought that
this this land protection grants program um the the maximum approximate maximum that you can request is $20,000. And if you take the land stewardship
fund the which is 2600 and the baseline documentation estimate 8,000 and the habitat management ex escrow it comes to 20,599.
So a little bit more than the 20,000. So I contacted uh Lucy. Wait a minute. I got it here. Lucy Wallace and asked her if we could ask
for a little bit more and she said do it. So, so that we got permission to ask for the money to cover those three things. So, then um we started filling
in the form and we got the draft done. There were like three parts where we thought we needed um a little clarification or help with >> on the draft. And um the first one is
501c3 question mark yes or no. And it says if no list name and contact information of eligible partner. So, we weren't sure. Would that be North County Land Trust?
>> Well, this is interesting. Um, I'm trying to look up the RFP for this because yes, I mean, but I think what it's asking is like who's the fiscal agent and that wouldn't necessarily like I
feel like the town should be able to apply for the funds. Um, did you did you talk to Lucy about that? >> Um, well, I'm pretty sure that the town does have to be the applicant. >> Well, well, I know that part, but but
the um I'm just confused because I would imagine like I'm not sure does the maybe Ronnie did we ever like I I've only applied as
a as a nonprofit. So now I'm like ah but >> I have only applied for this when it's a nonprofit. >> It's let me just look up really quick. Um have already >> I don't know if we can look at the grant
applications but the conservation commission did apply for one last year I believe. So Mike, maybe you know or have access. >> So So I'm on I'm on the website now and I'll just put it in the chat if I can.
Um where's chat? Oh, I can't chat. There's no chat. >> Huh? Oh, the website is um Hang on a second. Let me find the tab again. Wild
and Scenicar.org. or and then you go to um land protection grants and it there's a whole section who would who is eligible to apply and it says eligible entities include municipalities
501c3 and state agencies. So I don't you shouldn't need to have us though. Should the eligible partner just be the town of Townsend, >> but you're not a 501c3. >> I don't know. I I would just I mean, you
can leave us there, but maybe just another call to Lucy um >> to say we're a municipality. Do we have to I mean cuz yes we're there but we're not necessarily going to >> okay
>> act on behalf of the town like there's some like if if you were like a friends organization that didn't have a 501c status 501c3 status you could apply for this grant but you need a fiscal sponsor and I think that's what this is getting
at but maybe I'm misunderstanding. >> Okay. All right. So I'll do that. The next thing that was we weren't sure on, but I I just figured out the answer was acres to be covered. But but under the land stewardship fund,
it says approximately 26 acres, so we're going to go with that. 26 acres. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, not it's not Ronnie. I think we were thinking it was a little higher than that. And then um project location.
Describe the project location and include address or latitude and longitude. Attach a map of locations. So, we just figured we'd write, okay, the property is located between
Horseshoe Drive, Mason Road, and the Squan Cookook River. Yeah, you can go to Google map or Google maps and it will give you a lat and long if you place a pin. >> Okay.
>> Although I think that Google maps but double check this goes long and then lat. >> Okay. >> So if you >> I'll be able to figure out which it is. Okay. And I think the rest of it, did we get the rest of it, Ronnie?
There were questions at the end um towards the end that just check those. Oh, maybe we've covered it already. Um >> I thought there were some missing >> um in there.
So, describe any connection or linkage to already protected land. And I'm pretty sure there's fish and wildlife or fish and game land on the other side of where the turtles get released. >> Yeah. >> Um, so I wanted to confirm that we
didn't put that in there. >> Yeah. >> Let me look. I'm on mass mapper now. Uh Ash me towns it just want to cook river here we are. What is this? So we have
yeah the Squanakook River Wildlife Management Area. And it looks like I mean Ann might be able to tell us but exactly but it's always good to list the acreage of what um
what connected landscape you're doing. So let's see area acres. I'll do a rough kind of thing. All right. I think it's about 35 acres of wildlife management area.
I think that's just about it. Um, could we just check the goals of the manage the NRWA management plan? Those are the ones that we picked. >> Uh, we went through the document.
So this is another thing that is like a little bit confusing for me because it says if you go to the so look this is the RFP and if you look the l if you don't click on the link
okay or I guess scroll down see it says land protection goals set forth in the stewardship plan include and then it has the bullet points which and these sort of summarize the land protection points within the
larger document. I'm curious, are they looking for which one of these bullet points or actually going through the document like you guys? >> Well, we started out with these bullet points because there's protect priority land habitat,
>> right? >> Um there and so we did that and then we thought maybe we should go to the actual documents. So, that's another question that we could ask Lucy Emily, >> right? Yeah. >> Okay. >> Um, do they want us to go actually into the stewardship plan or to use the
bulleted points, >> right? >> I thought there were two of them that we had picked. Um, >> right. Um, the other one was protect priority headwater streams. >> Yes.
Yep. >> And and then we thought, wow, is that what they're looking for or do they mean to look at the stewardship plan? >> I have had the same things, the same questions in my head. So, >> okay, good.
>> Okay, >> we'll get the answers. >> All right. So I think I think at this point we just need to have a motion and then um decide whether we should move forward with this
grant and then then um Ronnie and I will can finalize it and work with Karen to to get it to Nashville River Watershed
Association by June 1st, >> which is Monday. >> which is Monday. >> And we have a meeting with Kieran tomorrow. >> Yes. >> So then I will take a motion. >> I wouldn't know how to word it. >> Okay. I move that the conservation
restriction committee um apply for the Nasha River Wild um what is it? The land protection grants program to cover um the costs of
which are they of the land stewardship fund. the baseline documentation report and the habitat management plan escrow. >> Is there a second? >> Mike P said second.
>> All right. Roll call vote. >> Emily fine. Yes. >> Mike P said yes. Oh, sorry. No, you're good. >> Valerie Goodwest >> and Selena Thomas. Yes.
>> All right. >> Yes. >> Well, good work, Emily and Veronica, and thank you for working on that. >> Thanks. >> Um, okay. So, that is the one grant that we had to discuss tonight.
Um, I don't know if anybody had any other questions about the draft budget at this point. What about the quilt thing? Is that on the agenda, too? I I just don't have the
agenda in front of me. >> So, it's part of the um the budget. So, >> discussion. >> So, for the budget thing, we need to talk about the uh quilt raffle. And to
do a raffle, we need to get a permit. And I believe that costs $10. So, I will cover the cost of the permit. for the raffle. >> So, there was a
go ahead >> question of whether or not um North County could hold the raffle for this. >> Oh, >> yeah. >> And that way they could send it out to
their their email group. Um, >> did you uh you want to see the the quilt? >> Of course we do, >> Emily. Well, it's sort of appropriate because
it's red, white, and blue. So, the timing is right, I guess, >> and it's it's a big quilt. And so this is >> this is the quilt. >> Oh my gosh, Emily, that's gorgeous.
>> It's humongous. It's I think it's like 80 80 inches by 80 inches. It can be a >> Wow. >> like king size. I forget even what the back Oh, and the back >> is just
red, white, and blue. >> Wow. >> Wow, >> Emily, that's amazing. I'm like I'm getting veclelemped. That's really beautiful. That's really beautiful. I love it.
Anyways, that's Wow. Wow. That's really great. Um, so I know that Veron's gonna Veronica is going to touch base with Grienne who's our advancement director. Um,
and um, she's I I dare not say um I I I dare not step out of my lane. I do conservation. She does all of this the fun um fundraising things. So, um, but I
think I I can't imagine there's a problem with us um hosting the raffle. Um, but I will I guess from the town's point of view, is there any concern with us doing that and then just
having the funds cover that? I I don't know if there's any >> Maybe this is something that we can talk to Kieran about tomorrow and maybe you guys need to um vote for me to work with
North County on that or >> if you want to add another thing to Val that's up to you Val you know to work um it's kind of awkward because I was on the committee and now I'm not so kind of
midstream so it's whatever ever you guys want, but I I am talking with Rianne about this. So, um I can either continue or not, and I honestly don't know how it works with the town.
>> I'm I'm not entirely sure of the legal aspects of that either. >> Okay. So, we can add that to our agenda maybe for tomorrow afternoon. >> Okay. Oh, puppy.
>> Who's that? >> What? >> Who is that? >> This is Riley. >> Hi, Riley. Good puppy. Okay. So, um I move that we ask Ron uh
Veronica Kell to um work with North County Land Trust to see whether the quilt raffle could be um run by by them.
Blah blah blah blah. Yeah. Or maybe just designate Veronica Kell to work on the quilt raffle on behalf of the committee. >> Great idea. >> Make it more general. >> Veron Okay. Veronica Kell work on the
quilt raffle for the conservation restriction committee. Thank you. >> Seconded. Okay. Roll call. Emily fine. Yes. Yes. >> Mike P. Yes.
>> And Selena Thomas. Yes. >> Okay. >> All right. Um >> All right. That so that's that. Good. Next. >> So, um other places we have
question marks for possible um grant funding are the Community Foundation of North Central Massachusetts. Um and I was thinking we need to see what we get from the
wild and scenic land. grant before we start applying for additional grants. Um because it may be that that covers most of what's left. Does that make sense to everyone?
>> Yeah. And al also with the community foundation, I think the grant would be the environmental protection and animal welfare grant that um they have. And I think the
deadline for that is in like a February. So, um unless they do another round, which I don't know, but um yeah. >> Yeah. So, maybe before the next meeting,
I'll take a look and see when their deadlines are. So, that's a good point. Um >> there are some other like uh community enrolling grants uh if we're not completely funded by the
wild and scenic stewardship grant um that I can kind of suggest. Um, >> okay. >> But again, I don't, you know, it's >> it may be a moot point.
>> Yes. 2.4. >> All right. Um, so I just realized there was one other conservation restriction document.
uh item. >> Sorry. So, going back to that briefly, um there was something for the water department. So, at the last meeting, we talked about um checking in with the water department
to make sure that they had reviewed everything. Um, and I heard back from them that everything seemed fine and there was the question of I think this is it. Um, here.
So, Miss Deianne had wanted a well name and D ID and they don't have that because it is a future site. It doesn't have this
designation information yet. Um, yeah, and Anna noted it as well. So, we just need to decide what to put in this text. Um, so I like Anna's suggestion.
>> TBD. Um, I liked Anna's suggestion of a site reserved for a future town water supply. >> Okay. What do you think? >> Sounds great.
>> That is Okay. Sorry I didn't bring that up before. I I should have mentioned it too, but I was not. All right, back to
the next item on um our agenda is the presentation update. So, the recreation committee met this morning. I found out yesterday
uh late afternoon. Uh so I did not get anything about a presentation on the agenda. Um the next meeting that they're having is set for July 1st. So if we wanted to do a presentation, I
could have them add it to that agenda. Um or we could continue to wait until we're a little further along like we've been saying for the public presentation. I I think you should get it out of the
way. We should do it on July 1st and make it just the same type of presentation that we've done to the other committees. Okay. Um do you guys want me to handle it? Would
anyone like to come along? >> Selena, I'll be out of town. Otherwise, I would totally join you. >> I am fine presenting it to them. Um, I just need to know if we're going to have more than three of like three or more of
us cuz we'd have to do the uh joint meeting at that point. So, um, I will send out a reminder when it's closer to July 1st about this and if we need to make it a joint meeting, we will. And if we don't, that's fine,
too. >> I'll look and see what my schedule's like, Selena, too. I'll let you know. >> Sounds good. All right. Um, and I do think that we should continue to wait a little bit for the public presentation until things are
a little more solidified. >> Is everybody still happy with that? >> Yes. All right, then I think we are at the point of uh discussing our next agenda and date for
the next meeting. So I think aside from 2.1 on this agenda, everything is kind of we're checking the boxes on the four things. the CR draft, the funding and budget,
um the presentations, and then the next meeting. I feel like that's still our future agenda as well. Does anybody have anything to add? >> I agree with you. >> All right, then. Date for next meeting.
Yes. >> So, I am going to be out of town uh June 17th through the 29th. So, we could either meet prior to that. Um two weeks from now is June 10th, or
we could meet after when I come back. Um, which brings us into July. >> So, June 10th is a Wednesday, right? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Uh, doesn't have to be the 10th. It could be >> Okay. Right. >> Any time after that
>> before the 17th, >> right? >> Could it be the 11th at at um what time? 7 o'clock. >> I can't do the 11th. Um, I have
something from 6:00 to 8:00 that day. >> Oh, okay. >> That's my last Thursday uh class. >> So once I come back in July, I'll definitely be free on Thursdays again.
>> So >> So the next You're gone by the next Thursday. >> The following Thursday is the 18th and I'm gone. So, how about how about the 10th at this same time, >> 5:30?
>> I actually have a Do I Hold on a second. Yeah, I have another meeting at this time on the 10th. >> I'm just wondering if if we meet in July, will town council have had a a
chance to look at it by then? I was I was just gonna say that I think um if we prepare everything it has to be presented. I can't guarantee a time frame. >> Yeah.
>> But um maybe like mid mid >> give them give them give them a month once they get it though. >> Yep. So maybe not, but >> well, and we probably won't have heard
back. Do we know um the timeline for the grant? >> It's the end uh it's Veronica Cal. Sorry. The It's the end of June. I I think it's June 29th, but it might be the 30th that we'll know for the land
protection grant. Um and if if it if we are not able to get um the grant or the full amount then we would have to work on the land conservation grant which is a rolling grant. So uh really until that grant
announcement uh is made I don't know if there's anything new to discuss. >> Okay. So, what about uh July 9th, Thursday, and we could meet at the usual
7:00 time. >> That would work for me. >> What do you think? >> That was the 9th of July. >> Yeah. >> At 7 o'clock. >> I think I can do that.
Mike, is that good for you? >> Yeah, it is. Yes. >> Okay. All right. >> All right. Um >> Oh, I'm sorry. Select board meeting is on July 7th. >> Yeah, this is July 9th.
>> Oh, July 9th. Yes. Seven. Sorry, I confused the dates. July 9th. That's fine. Sorry, I said the 7th at 9:00 instead of the 9th at 7 o'clock. Yeah. >> Um, so just to cover our bases, um, I
think I would like to have a motion to send the CR draft to town council from the committee. Um, just in case we need that before we can send it to the
So >> can I have a motion? >> So moved. Thank you, Val. Do I have a second? >> Second. Mike said. >> Okay. Uh, rule call vote.
>> Emily Fine. Yes. Are you going to chess? >> Mike Pod said, yes. >> And Selena Thomas, yes. All right. Didn't forget that. Okay. So, next meeting, July 9th, at 7
PM. Um, I will take a motion to adjourn at 6:30. >> I move we adjourn at 6:31 p.m. Emily Fine moves we adjourn at 6:31 p.m.
Second. >> All right. Roll call. >> Emily Fine. Yes. Good. Yes. >> P said yes. Selena Thomas. Yes. All right. Thank you everyone.