I would like to call the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. Um, could I have a roll call starting with remote? >> Emily Fine, present, >> Mike Pot, present,
>> and Selena Thomas present. Okay. Um, the meeting is being recorded. It will be uploaded to YouTube. Is anyone else on the call recording? Okay.
Does anybody have any topics that were not part of the agenda that came up in the last 48 hours? All right. So, the next thing is to review the meeting minutes. Um I had sent out
possibly this morning um minutes from April 6th and April 13th. Those were our joint meetings with other groups. Um did you guys have a chance to look at those? >> I did.
I'm fine. Y >> All right. Can I get a motion to approve those two minutes? We'll make an emo a motion to approve the uh two sets of minutes. One from >> April 6th. >> April 6 and the other one
>> April 13th. >> April 13th. >> I second. Emily fine seconds. >> Okay. Is there any discussion? >> All right. Hearing none, can we vote
starting revote? >> Emily Fine, yes. >> Mike P said, yes. >> Selena Thomas, yes. Um, I didn't see any minutes from April 23rd,
which was our last meeting here. Emily, did you send them? >> Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. I send them the day after our meeting. Um I can um
if I if I can find them then then I could share them. >> Or we could just review them next meeting as well. Either way. >> Well, let me get them.
I think that it was a quick meeting, too. It was >> so it was what was the date for >> the 23rd. >> Oh, you know what? I think I just found my
>> Nope, I didn't find. Never mind. >> Five. see our committee. Why am I not? Oh, I I think let me see our committee. Huh? It's not doing any of my word documents.
Oh, no. There it is. Okay. 5 and it was 423. Oh, yeah. And I've got it as a PDF, too. Okay. Can I share? Do I have permission to share?
Do you have to ask for that permission or not? >> Yeah. Um >> I I I She's now uh able to share. >> Okay. >> Um there it is. Okay. So, we did the called the meeting to
order. It was being recorded. no unanticipated topics. Um, we approved the minutes and I converted them to PDF format.
Um, okay. Business. We re review of the revised map and MISA comments. Committee has not received feedback from Misa yet. Um, I brought up the issue of allowing sledding on the snow covered slopes in
the winter. That could be listed as an allowed use. Um, review of funding sources and budget. Um, it was hoped that m by May 5th, Kieran would have time to work on the BDR funding.
Um, Then we discussed the presentations that had been made already. Um we talked about the idea of presenting a report at town meeting or holding an open meeting for the town at the library on a later date. Once the CR
timeline is firmed up, uh the committee must submit CR application to EOEA by October 1st in order to be considered this year. Then we came up with topics for the
agenda for this meeting and the date and then we adjourned. >> Great. So, can I have a motion to accept these minutes? >> I'll make a motion to accept the minutes of April 23.
>> And your name? >> You want your name? >> Oh, Mike Watson. >> A second. Emily Fine seconds. >> All right. Roll call vote, please. >> Emily Fine, yes.
>> Mike Pot says yes. Selena Thomas. Yes. >> All right. >> Okay. So, I can stop sharing. >> Okay. So, meeting business. Um, we got the conservation restriction document back from Misty Anne. So, we're
going to go through her edits tonight. Um, could I please share my screen? All right. Make it a little bigger. Okay.
So, um I looked through these edits earlier today and the majority of them I have a Zoom thing in my way. The majority of them are um
kind of text related things. So for example, um this is not a good example of that. This was the example I was trying to So, changing an A to a. There were a lot of
those. So, we'll skip those little minor things. Um, and sorry, somehow I'm way down below where I thought I was. Okay. So first
edit from Misty an is this instead of saying land being protected she said premises this and again I'm skipping these few things where instead of it is it is and is
um she added in the 301 CMR are. So that must be um some state regulation. spelled out baseline documentation report.
All right. So this section where we defined the recreation complex um she had a question is it within the CR or just in a lease and the answer to that is
it is just the least Right. Um, she changed invasive to prohibited. So, the list of plant species deemed to be prohibited in Massachusetts is
provided. And she also added uh at the end here in the Department of Conservation and Recreation's list of current and potential aquatic invasive species. >> That should probably have apostrophe s
for recreation. I believe so. Right. Um, so she had a question that we need to confirm with town council. So we'll bring that to them when
when it gets reviewed by them. All right. So this was one of her big changes. Um, the recreation complex, including the playing fields, parking areas, driveways, temporary structures, and any
other such identified in writing by the town, shall be defined as a dwelling for purposes of discharging a firearm or release of any arrow consistent with MGL chapter 131, section 58, and the protective distance shall be fixed at
500 ft. So, her comment for this Where did I go? Here. All right. So, the state already mandates the setbacks um when it's in relation to a dwelling
um except as authorized by the owner occupant thereof. They're talking about reducing the distance to 250 ft. So if we want it to stay at the 500 ft distance, we would
need to include that specifically in the CR. The other thing is that um it also needs to specify that is within the premises. Unless there is
a way to apply this to private lands, for example, a person standing on private property, the restriction in the CR would not govern that action per se. So that was what this update was. Oh, not that update, sorry. this update
here. The 13 >> and this says and it shall be fixed at 500 ft. So >> that was her suggestion of >> seeing that it was a fixed distance.
>> Okay. Now that doesn't cover the entire premises though, right? It doesn't it doesn't >> right >> cover the area towards Ash swamp and down near the water well. >> Right.
Once the well building goes in, that would be another building um or structure that would be part of the MGL chapter 131 section
58 law. >> So I think our intent with this was to make sure that the there was no uh hunting near the soccer fields not to disallow it everywhere on the
property if I recall correctly. >> Okay. >> Plus, there are there are houses on um I forget what that road is. Um, >> so drive houses or
or a different road >> on Say that again. >> Horseshoe Drive or a different road? >> No, the the main road there. >> Mason Road. >> Mason Road. Yeah. So, um, for instance, right behind, uh,
the Blanding Slope, there's a house. >> Yeah. And so that section there has some more, you know, is protected 500 ft from there. >> Yeah. >> So, does this work for everybody?
>> I have no problem with it. >> Okay. Whoops. What did she write about trespassing on sandy slopes? >> Um, >> right there. >> We left that. >> Oh, okay.
I thought it was that color. I'm I'm trying to What What color are are Misty's corrections or edits? Um, so
>> maybe >> it's this black color actually cuz she added as existing at the time of >> Oh, okay. >> So, all right. the wellfield and access strip.
Um, so this is the groundwater protection district bylaws that exist. Um, so she said as existing at the time of the issuance of the CMP, any new
I think this is supposed to be or modified uses that result in soil or vegetation alterations shall be reviewed by the division to ensure consistent under the MISA to ensure adequate protective measures
are applied. So basically, if the town changes the groundwater protection district bylaw, it needs to be reviewed for the purposes of the
CR. Does that does that mean that when they decide to build the building and the road that that they have to get reviewed for that.
>> Um, so I believe they will it depends on when they do that. So for um
for the Tesa field expansion, we are getting the town is getting a permit from Misa. Um and that permit has a a shelf life. I think it's 5 years.
So if the well were to be developed within that time frame, they have the permit already. If it's beyond that time frame, then they have to get another permit issued. >> Does that make sense? So the the permit that Misa is giving to
Tasa also applies to the the water. >> Misa isn't going to be giving it to Tasa. Misa is going to be giving it to the town because the town owns the land, not Tesa. >> And and that what does that permit
state? So, um, that will be the I believe it'll be the CMP. Um, the conservation management permit. Hello, Veronica.
We can't hear you because you're muted, but you are recognized. I >> I think that's right. when they issue the permit, if there are any changes um that happen after that that are
outside of what we've stated, then they they are reserving the right to re-review, I think, here. >> Okay. And they would this the CMP is the conservation management permit, right? >> Yes.
>> Okay. So if if the I think what they're saying is they're giving this permit based on the conditions that we have established here where we say this is where the building is blah blah blah. But if any new or modified uses that
result in soil or vegetation alteration um if there's anything new then that has to be reviewed by the division. >> Okay. to make sure it's consistent. That's what I think they're saying. >> That's how I wrote it, too.
>> Okay, good. I'm going to lower my hand. >> Okay. >> Hide my face. >> So, I think this is one spot that we want to make sure Anna notices. Um, so I will put that on my Anna list.
Okay. So then, all right. This one is about the herbicides. um the use of statelicicensed herbicides, fungicides, and pesticides in a manner that minimizes damage to the surrounding
non-target species and preserves water quality. >> Uh I'm I'm wondering why she elimin crossed out spot applied. Couldn't it be statelicicensed and spot applied herbicides? Well, I
think this in a manner that minimizes damage is the intent of spot but like that is instead of spot applied similar
meaning. >> Okay. So the state licensed is just saying which herbicides, fungicides, and pesticides are allowed to be used and then how they're applied is the minimizing damage
to the surrounding non-target species. >> Would it would it be I don't know. I I like having spot applied in there also just to be clear about the application of these chemicals.
So how about their state license herbicides, fungicides and pesticides spot applied in a manner that minimizes damage. D. >> Yeah, that's that's good.
>> Okay. Okay. So, um this is with prior written permission. They have the right to restore, maintain, enhance, or otherwise manage biotic communities or habitats for native or rare species that include but
are not limited to application of herbicide, selective planting of native species, cutting, prescribed burning or removal of native vegetation, forestry and modification of soils. This conservation restriction explicitly
allows soil and vegetation alter alteration. a alteration. >> Yeah. As approved by the division to benefit nesting and foraging turtles. >> Yep.
All right. So this is she removed the duly recorded with the Middle Sex County Registry of Deeds. So apparently you don't need to state that you're going to record it.
Okay. Okay. So, this one was about public access. The grtor hereby grants to the division or its assigned that's not the right word the right to
access the premises at any time for conservation actions research or monitoring of rare species or habitats. And her comment there was that turtle work is often at dusk and night. So want
to be sure that excess is preserved. >> Do we know what word she was? >> What? >> This doesn't make sense. The grand >> I think it's a legal term >> or it's assigns >> assign or it's assigns to whom they
assign the right to go onto the property. representatives. >> Yeah. But I think that's a legal term and I don't think it's assenees which is what you would think but I think I think it's legal ease. That's
what I think. >> I'm not certain but um that's what I think. >> All right. We'll leave it. So, was that wording about day and night access included? >> No, it was just her comment as to why
she wanted >> Oh, why she wanted not to include it. Okay. That's the formatting thing. All right, I think that was it for the edits. >> Nice. >> Yeah.
So, um I know we had talked about at the last meeting that we wanted uh sledding to be allowed. So, should we include that now while while we're in here?
Yeah, probably. >> Since we're changing it a little bit by adding the spot applied, does she have to does this go back to her final? >> Um, I believe it needs to go back to her
again, but I will contact her and ask the question. Um, And is she she's also going over our habitat management plan. >> Yes. And she when she sent this back,
she had said that she would be reviewing that next. Um but she did not send it before the meeting tonight. >> Okay. >> All right. So this is our paragraph on public access and it mostly says that we need to look
at two paragraph two. So where is that? And it's got to be up higher. So I think it was supposed to be this section pro under prohibited uses. I think there
was a place >> where it talked about the sandy slopes. >> Well, I think under the reserved rights on the premises, passive recreation uses such as
So would we want to include it here in this number four such as nature studying, birding, wildlife observation, walking on existing trails. And we could add sledding there. Yeah, I I know that there's a place
where it specifically talks about the sandy slopes and >> for people to stay off of the sandy slopes except permitted uh there it is. Trespassing. >> So this is the restricted section,
>> right? So I think if we're going to include sledding as a allowed, it would go in the reserved rights section. So we could either include it as the
passive where >> and and those two things don't contradict each other like how can you sled on the sandy slopes without trespassing on the sandy slopes? because we say you're not allowed to trespass
except to sled. >> Okay. So I think here how about sledding on snowcovered covered slopes. Yeah. Okay. >> Okay.
So, um I think now I need to ask Anna about the groundwater protection section. Just make sure that fits with her expectation as well.
um also check to see if she had any comments about Mistan's edits and then I believe it is ready to either go back to Misty Anne or go on to
town council. So, does anybody have any additional things for the conservation restriction document? Okay. Um, actually I do almost forgot.
Um so because the conservation restriction um includes the new well building footprint. Um we need to verify with the
water department that this is their max size possible. um kind of you know once it's in there it's difficult to change. So I would like to have a motion
to um notify the water department that they need to review and get back to us um within a specified time period so that we can move this along.
What would the specified time period be? >> Well, that's going to be part of the discussion. >> I think two weeks is a is plenty of time because they just have to all they have to do is look at that at the plan,
right? At the map. >> Yep. um they need to look at that and possibly also review the CR document. Um
I think the the main driver for it taking a little bit of time for them is they may have to call a meeting in order to do it. But I think that 2 weeks is also a pretty
good timeline. >> So moved with the addition of two weeks limitation. >> Okay. >> Do I have a second? >> I Emily fine seconds. Okay. Uh, roll call vote, please.
>> Emily Fine, yes. >> Mike Pot said, yes. >> Selena Thomas, yes. Okay. So, I will send that information along to the water department. Okay. Let me just verify with my other notes
that I didn't forget anything else. Okay. Next item on the agenda 2.2, uh, reviewing funding sources, um, and the budget, etc. So, I met with Kieran, the town administrator today to
check in on um he is working on getting quotes for the BDR and he said that he will have it done by the end of the business day tomorrow. So, he didn't have anything for us tonight.
Um, the budget. I realized when I was writing this or looking at this this morning that I didn't ever send you guys the budget worksheet. Um, it hasn't changed at all because nothing has moved
anywhere. So, I will make sure to send that out to the group this time. Does anybody have anything else budgetarywise? >> Um,
so at this at this point, we we have certain things covered, but but we're still lacking funding for a couple of things. Is that correct? >> Let me pull up the budget.
>> Okay. Okay. So, um our So, we have the survey um covered by grants. >> Can I ask a question? Um, Selena,
>> I was just wondering if this is this is something that I didn't check on and it's in the Did anybody confirm with Marissa that she did receive the signed contract? I was a selectman when it was sent out, but just a select uh, you
know, towards the end and I never confirmed with her that she actually did receive it. >> I did not. So, I will add that to my list. >> Yeah, just check in with her. I think it might be good to cover that base.
>> You received it, correct? Tesa received it. >> I don't know. Actually, my uh treasurer usually just takes care of things and doesn't even >> let us know until Yeah, just confirm because um Kieran signed them that last
week and um they were to be mailed out. >> Okay. I will verify. >> Okay. Thanks. >> And and this is what what was Marissa supposed to receive the bill? Is that
>> So the um Yeah, the invoices from Dillis and Roy to do the surveying work. >> Actually, it's a signed contracts with them. The invoices will go directly to them after.
>> Yeah. Okay. It it's my understanding though that that we don't have like we don't have the funding for the land stewardship fund. Is that correct?
So right now I believe we have the 2400 that is in this top part. >> Okay.
>> I don't think we have anything yet for this bottom part. >> Okay. So, and and do we do we have Oh, is that what is Karen working on getting on that then?
>> Yeah. So, Kieran is working right now on getting an estimate for the baseline documentation. That's the first step. Once we know what it's going to cost, then we can work on getting funding for that.
Okay. Do we have any sources of funding that we're thinking about? Veronica. >> Um the DCR um land conservation grant um is one option, but before we could
apply, we need did the um the town has to apply and before that happens, so there's the land conservation uh grant down in that bottom part. Um so that's for the BDR. >> Um
and um >> Okay. So, and the other two are up for grabs. Um, that might be a conversation with um Anna. So, so it it might be possible that we're
going to have to do some fundraising. >> Yes, >> it might be fundraising. Yes, it might be finding other grant opportunities >> through NCT, North County Land Trust. So,
>> okay. >> Um, if if we need to instead of getting grants, come up with a fundraising thing. Um, I would be willing to donate a quilt that could be raffled off and maybe it could
be raffled off at soccer games. >> Or uh, and yeah, that's a good idea. >> And also if we if we do a program at the library for the public, we could bring it there and raffle it off.
We could probably get, depending upon um what we charge, we could probably get close to at least $1,000, I would hope. Or but anyways, that's that's a
possibility there. There's also is the CFNCM is that the something of North Central Massachusetts >> Community Foundation of North Central Massachusetts Yeah, I know they have a lot of
different grant opportunities. Um, and they're on a yearly cycle, but they come about at different times of the year. So, it'll all depend when we figure out what different things will
truly cost. So it looks like roughly 30,000 minus the eight if Kieran can get the um baseline documentation. So are we talking 22,000 that we need roughly? >> No, more like six or seven.
>> Yeah. >> The eight from the BDR. Um the survey funds it ended up costing 14 uh yeah for 24,000 for the survey.
Um and that's being covered by the Marian Stoddard and Tesa. >> Okay. So it'll be question of these other items. I see town of townsen question mark.
>> Yes. So the ones that we don't know whether or not they would be able to fund these things, they're just ideas and they have question marks. >> Okay. I think we should try not to to ask
money from the town at all considering the town's fiscal constraints I guess. So I don't know All right. So, any other
comments or questions about the funding? Okay. So then the next item on our agenda is um presentation update. So the recreation commission
sorry committee maybe it is commission um they now have enough members to have a quorum. Uh I actually was uh written in and won a seat.
Unbeknownst to me they did a writing campaign to get me in there. So, I should be finding out soon when the meeting is and I will make it a point to add to the agenda reviewing the
conservation restriction. Um, as far as the public presentation goes, I think we still don't have enough timeline information to pick a time to do that. Any
other comments or questions about presentations? All right. So, then we're on the last item. Uh the agenda for and date for next meeting. I think the agenda is going to be pretty
much the same as it now is now except um we might have the habitat management plan back from Missianne to review at that point for our next meeting hopefully. Does anybody have anything else they
would like to add to the agenda? Okay. So then our next meeting date for the next four Thursdays. I have a class in the evening. So, if we wanted to try and do a different day of the week,
um, like in two weeks or something, or if we wanted to push it out a month, I'll be back to being available on Thursdays, >> I think. How about Wednesday, the 27th
of May? I am available then. >> Is that 27th of May? >> It's the last full week in May. >> Is that the Wednesday conservation commissioner meeting or not?
>> I can look. I think it is. There's nothing in the upcoming events. >> It's two weeks from today, right? >> Two weeks from yesterday. Yes. >> Two weeks from yesterday. Yeah. Well, I'm pretty sure it's the 27th, but it's
not posted either. >> When was your last meeting? >> Yesterday. >> Yesterday. And it's every other week, >> right? Well, two second and fourth. Is that how it works? >> Yeah, that would be the second and fourth. Yeah.
>> And how about Tuesday the 26th? >> I could do the 26th. Okay. So 5:26 at 7 o'clock. >> Yep. >> All right.
Um at that point we should have our new select board liaison. Um so I will find out who that is and make sure to get the info to them. Um, if they cannot make it that date, we may email to try and find
a date that everybody can meet that week. >> All right, then. Could I have a motion to adjourn? >> I move to adjourn at 8:00 p.m. Emily. Fine.
>> All right. Roll call vote. Emily Fine. Yes. >> My pot said yes. >> Selena Thomas. Yes. >> All right.