All right. I'd like to um call the meeting to order for the CR committee at uh 7:14 p.m. Could I have a roll call, please?
And since we have people remote, um has to be uh roll call with your name first. So, starting at the table with Michael. Okay. Mike Pods present. Veronica Cal present.
Selena Thomas present. Emily Fine present. All right. So, um, we are missing Todd Meansen and we have two people remote. Um, so thank you. I just want to apologize that the Zoom
link was somehow deceit deleted. Um, all the Zoom links apparently going forward for meetings. Um and so there was difficulty getting in and that's the reason that we're starting late but we have a new um username and passcode. So
all right um the meeting is being recorded and will be uploaded to YouTube. Is anybody else recording? All right. Um additions or deletions? I have none. But does anybody uh feel that anything else should be added to the
meeting or deleted for that matter? Okay. Hearing none, um we have minutes for May 27th that were distributed. Again, I apologize for them going out so late. I expected this to go out on
Tuesday, but it's been um a little busy around here lately, so it didn't get out until this morning. Um I apologize for that. So, if uh someone would like to make a motion um
to approve the minutes for May 27th and then we can discuss. So, a motion and a second, please. Okay, this says May 29 at the top. Does it say May 29? Is it May? Was our meeting May 29th or May 27th?
Hold on. I will check. It could have been May 29th. I could be off by May It was the 29th. Okay. So, air in the agenda. It was the minutes for May 29th. So, could I have a
motion to approve the meeting minutes of May 29th? I'll make a motion approve the the meeting meeting minutes of May 29, 2025. Okay. So, Michael um made the motion. Is
there a second? I will second. Selena Thomas. Okay. Selena Thomas second. So, any um is there any discussion on the minutes? Anything that anybody wants to
change or update or anything like that? Uh, I didn't find anything. John, good. Anybody else have anything going through here? I didn't. I did not. Okay. Um, so then, uh, roll
call vote. Um, starting, um, at the table with Michael. Mike pot. Yes. Uh, Veronica Cal, yes. Selena Thomas, yes. Emily fine. Yes,
thank you. All right. So that is the M. Um so going to uh the um the uh the meeting business. Um 2.1
I I will I have to admit I have done very little for this other than I did talk to an Gagman and she was also trying to get into the meeting. I was hoping she would be here. Um, I did talk to her earlier in the week and as far as
the CR goes, I what I asked her was would um, Fish and Game be willing to hold the CR. So maybe I'm going to 2.2 on this. Uh, the discussion of the CR holder. would they be willing to hold if
um water was part of the CR, the water restrictions that we talked about? Um and uh she said that it would depend on how we a it would depend on the state because she's not the final determinant
of everything. It has to be run by the land use committee. So, she would have to take it to them, but she would want us as we, and this is where 2.1 comes in, finalize the allow and prohibited uses to put everything in there and
provide that to her. And I wasn't sure what format she wanted it in, whether she wanted it in their template or just an informal list from us. um to put it in, you know, to to list these out and then
we could work together if in fact we decide we want to go forward with fishing game so that it could be in a format that she could take to her committee and see whether or not they would be agreeable to that. So, I hope I um stated that correctly. I wanted Ann
to be on here so that I was certain that I was saying the right thing or that she could say the right thing. But that was how I understood what she wanted. So um I guess the next question is Selena, have you been able to talk at all with
NRWA? No, I contacted them um and I've been waiting to hear back from them. So I have not been able to talk to them yet. Okay. All right. So, I you know, it would be
good to hear from them at some point. Yeah. I think been busy, too, getting their summer work, you know, started and all that. Um, they also have a new executive director, I believe. Um, fairly
recently. I'm not sure. Maybe a couple months ago. Does anybody know? I don't know. Yeah. I would be willing to continue to try and contact them. Um,
I don't know. How does everybody feel about that for Selena to continue to contact them? I think she should. I I think you should too, Selena. I think we should have all the input when we make the decision. Okay. So, yeah,
try to continue. Emily, what do you think? Um, I I have my doubts that they want to be holding a conservation restriction, but it's worth pursuing even though I
think their response is going to be no. Okay. Yeah. Well, I I agree with you that it it is worth pursuing. So, um, let me see. I'm trying to see if Ann is coming in.
Uh, well, I know it works because I sent it to YouTube. Let me just make sure. And I sent it to Emil to Ann. So, um, I know that she had said she had another meeting tonight at 5:30. I have to be in Harvard at
5:30. Uh well anyway um did did you send it to her cell phone or let me she has been giving me everything by email. If you have her cell and want to send it to her I'm
looking for it right now. I know I've got it. Uh feel free but I did send it to her email. So, um, while Emily does that, the the other thing that was on the agenda was
to talk about the things that are for and against. And I had hoped to write that up and I just didn't have time. I I guess I didn't expect the town meeting. We would have two town meetings uh, three between when we last met really
and and now. Well, two town meetings between when we last met and now. and I was out of town for 3 weeks, you know, between our last meeting and I got home the day before town meeting. So, I really really haven't had time to do
that. Um, so do we want to do either Emily and Selena, do either of you have anything written up on the um uh allowed and prohibited uses?
I have a list that I started. Um I can share it if I am allowed to share. Um Hartley, if you're down there, could or Jim, could you give Selena Oh, it looks
like I have the permission. Oh, good. Give me one second. Thank you. Okay. And I'm going I can text Ann now. Okay. Tell her to get check her email for the link. Okay. All right. Thank
you. And Selena's going to bring up the uh list that she's been putting together. stuff. Can you see it? I I can. It's Can you make it? Well, maybe I can make it bigger. Oh, I can
make it bigger. Okay. How's that? That's good. All right. Um, permitted persons con for um for habitat restoration. Permit
holders allowed on the sandy slopes, hiking and walking, uh including dogs. Um we should probably put something about um picking up, you know, droppings, dog
waste at the bottom. Oh, is that there? Not allowed dog waste. Okay. Yes. So that that is in there just under the non-lowed dog waste, fertilizer on soccer fields, um stay off sandy slopes, motorized
vehicles, um interacting with wildlife species, removing reptiles. Well, is is am I correct in um thinking that Emily's idea was to just use the the allowed and prohibited um items from the water
resource protection district that they have already and if we just use all those even though some of them don't actually apply to this situation but I made a a copy. Oh, did you? Okay, that's what I was right
now. I mean, I think it includes most of what's in there, but in in their jargon, so which might be a good idea, but
um so I made copies, and I I noted which ones, some of them that would be prohibited on the the um the land that's protected. uh could be rewarded to be allowed for
the soccer fields. So for instance um uh prohibited uh construction, maintenance, repair and enlargement of drinking water supply related facilities uh as such and it goes on. But then if
we're going to let them put in their irrigation system, then it's then that would be something that's allowed on that part of the property. So, unfortunately, I can't hand you through the screen a copy, but yeah, I
have a copy of it. I'm trying to pull it up um online so that we can like copy and paste from one spot to another. Uh yeah, if you go to the town website, you could bring it up that way if or do
you have it um like saved as a PDF on your system? Selena, that's what I was just looking to see. Also, um it says permit holders allowed on sandy slopes. So, not allowed. It needs to be
um unpermitted. um are or something about not not going on sandy slopes. Well, it says public must stay off sandy slopes. The second rule. Oh, okay. Okay.
Um Okay. So, is that clear enough though, Emily? Do you think I think so. Yeah. All right. Um motorized vehicles. What does he say about motorized vehicle? What does this say? Including
lawnmowers. Um, but see the bicycles. Uh, I brought my sisters, uh, who were staying with us a couple of days up and, uh, I could see that people are riding their bicycles up there. So, is
that something that we since historically people have used it for that purpose, are we going to prohibit them in the future from using it? Well, it's listed as not allowed. Um, you know, I suppose that it
um I don't know in in non um you know, like the the period of time from October to March, could it be allowed? Well, do you know what I mean? Right.
Oh, sure. We could be that specific, but in the allowed uses within a water resource protection district, item three that I have here, foot and/or bicycle paths and associated bridges. So, it would be allowed if we followed these
regulations strictly. M we might need to um so I think we had talked before about not having it be different for different seasons just because it gets difficult
more difficult to uh understand and enforce people will have a harder time understanding it right I mean Number one on this of allowed
conservation of soil, water, plants, and wildlife. Allowed activity. That's an allowed activity. Well, the conservation of wildlife is what this project is all about. So, it seems that that could be taken as
it is verbatim or elaborated. I agree with that. Yeah. Yeah, I think could you read that again? Conservation of and conservation of soil, water, plants, and wildlife.
Okay, I found it. Thank you, Selena. Oh, great. Yes, there it is under B. And right and if you go right down through the list, some of them are absolutely applicable and others are not in our situation.
But if this is the totality of the regulations, if we just incorporate them in total, then we've we've covered everything. Right. Right. But or we or we could be more specific. Yeah.
And there might be a few things that we would want to add, but if you go down through the list, I think it includes just about everything. And uh the ones that I put a circle on are
those that when we're putting some kind of restrictions on the soccer field. Uh for instance, as I said, number eight. Let's see if your number eight coincides with this number eight.
Uh I think you have to go back the other way. No down right there. Yeah. construction, maintenance, repair, enlargement of drinking water, supply related facilities, etc. Um, that's an allowed use. So,
right, that's an allowed use, but that's all related to drinking. But if we talk about those uses that would we would allow on the other side of the parking lot, it would be the construction, maintenance, repair
of the irrigation water supply because there was talk about getting um uh connecting to the town water supply so that they can irrigate the fields. Yeah. because right now we use our well, but we want to connect to the town
supply. Um, so I think that's a good suggestion that you have here. Michael, well, you guys can't see it, but he wrote in um irrigation water supply, construction,
maintenance, repair, um, irrigation water supply and enlargement of drinking water supply related facilities. So, if you want, I can go down through
I've circled about I don't know 10 or 12 of these that I think might be applicable to the other side of the road. So, if we were to take and apply all of these to the CR and add a few more that somehow we feel aren't covered
automatically with the CR. And then we use these other circled ones to get us started on the other side of the road, other side of the parking lot. Mhm. Meaning the taser side, the fields.
Yeah, the soccer fields. Yeah. Okay. So, do we want to just grab what is here and put them on the list and then we can go through them one by one and either
keep them or get rid of them or expand. Sure. You can either just cut and paste the ones that that we're talking about. Uh, okay. So, I circle number two outdoor. This would be prohibit this
would be allowed outdoor recreation, nature study and then of course no boating or fishing or hunting or all that. Um so so we should strike out boating, fishing and hunting where otherwise
legally. Well actually on the list that we already generated we have no hunting I think. So are we going to though replace the list with this? No way. I think we can add to it. Add to it. Add to it and then then refine it after
the next one. Number five. So, do we want to not keep number three here? Uh, I skipped down to number five. Three and four. They didn't seem to apply to the Yeah,
four doesn't really apply, right? But five, maintenance, repair, enlargement of any existing structure. And that would be the shed. I think you talked about um making the shed bigger or building a new
shed or something like that. Yeah, we're building a new uh it's a lightning structure like a pavilion so people can get out of the weather. Okay. I wasn't sure about later on I I had something about the lightning structure.
So at any rate, um number five could apply if we just put it there now and then we can go refine it later. Number eight, I think seven doesn't apply at all.
Yeah, six doesn't. Seven doesn't. So, construction, maintenance, repair, and then uh I went to irrigation, water supply, and just struck everything else cuz it it doesn't apply to us.
Oops. Construction. Yeah, if you were to get after repair, just delete everything after repair. or should should we delete that? Because I'm thinking about if there is ever a
water um a water system put in there, a public well. Um that would be an enlargement. All right. But this is this is would it go on to the soccer field?
These are Oh, are is what we're talking about right now specific to just the soccer field? That's what I think because No, no. What we're talking about is is the whole thing for the CR. So, we would need to include the drinking
water, construction, maintenance, repair, and and be because of the wells, right? But I think the CR should just well one possibility okay is to just
include everything in the CR and that's totally covered and then pick and cherrypick those things that we need to reword or use uh for the soccer fields. You you're right. For the CR, we
absolutely do need to have the drinking water, all of this verbiage. But if we just take all of these four pages or however many they are, and that's the CR, that's one possibility. You see, but the the CR
does not include the soccer fields. It includes outside the soccer fields. Right. But if this if we include everything in the CR that's related to the water
which includes um uh conservation of wildlife then if we want to reward a couple of them to make it a little bit more specific for our needs. But if we just include the whole thing in the CR
and then cherrypick those few things that we think should also be included in the soccer fields, right? So, so we need the we need the wording that includes the drinking water supply so that it's clear that that the
water department can use those town wells that that we're not preventing that. But in addition, we need wording that has construction, maintenance, repair of the irrigation water supply so
that the soccer fields can tie into the town water. So we need both, right? Yep. Okay. So somewhere there we have to put Yes.
what Selena's doing. Okay. Irrigation of soccer fields. Yes. Right. Then I skipped all the way down in the prohibited uses to number eight.
I don't see a number eight. Um, it's so the allowed uses has a number eight. Prohibited uses starts ABC. Oh, it's a slightly different format.
Um, uh, there's one that starts replacement of uh placement of fill unless the fill is been designated clean fill. Yeah, yours is slightly different.
Where? Where? Uh, by the snow. I'm wondering why it's different and charter. What about that earth removal one? Um,
I'm thinking there's there are a lot of these that are good that should be in there, I think. Uh, can we go back up this one, Emily? Yeah. 145. Let's see if I can find that one
online. 1454 drum. Well, the way this this is worded online is replacement of fill, placement of fill, unless the fill is designated as clean fill. In other words, when they're making the new soccer field, if
they have to bring in any fill, they have to make sure that it's clean fill because it's so close to the water supply, right? I think we should take the prohibited uses. I think we should take all of these and then go through because all of
these are going to want to be there for the water piece and then go through like what you were and add the pieces that okay need more specificity. So maybe grab all of that all of the prohibited uses there, Selena. I I think
and then pop them in. And I I think it's just that they're they're written different. The way Selena has it is the way it's written in the e-code online. I'm not sure where this came from. I just found her online. I don't know. Oh,
okay. Just in general. Yeah. Okay. I have a I'm having troubles with my mouse. It doesn't want to select. But they're the words are the same. It's just the format of them is different. Michael, that's all.
Landfills and open dumps. It's the words are the same. It's just the way it's uh written is different. Let me grab the rest of them and then we can Okay. And then we can go through Okay, I think that's all of them.
All right. So, this one will be down below. Okay. Okay. Landfills and open dumps. That's in what you have, Michael. Um, okay. Uh, landfilling of sludge or
septage. Oh, these two are left out of ours because we don't have septic maybe. I don't know. Right. Some of them just don't apply to the soccer field side or either side or either side. Yeah. Automobile graveyards and junkyards.
Storage of liquid hazardous individual sewage disposal. Okay. Leave that in. Um this is different. The replacement or repair of a system
which will not result in an increase in design capacity. Oops. So that's a Oh, sorry. Wrong one. Um, it's supposed to be a tab.
So, it's part of the sewage disposal system thing. Yeah. Oh, it is here. It's just in a different section. It's on the next page. It's in G,
the individual sewage. Okay. Some of these might not be really They don't apply. They don't apply. Kind of like the sewage stuff. I mean, do we need that there? I think the only reason we would need something like that is to
um to help protect the water supply, you know, since it's not a water protection district, right? By definition. So, Mhm. So my only question with the sewage thing
would be whether or not it would make any difference to us having portaotties on site during the soccer season. That's a good question. Well, that's not sewage disposal. True. That's contained, right? They they come
and Right. They come and they take it. Yeah. Could we just add a phrase at the end of that that portaotties are okay? Well, I think that would go in the allowed uses. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do we
have that? Yeah. And soccer fields. Yeah. Stories materials. Okay. Delina, I'm gonna ask you to send me that when we're done. Definitely. I just can't write fast enough here. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe send it
to all of us when you're done. Oh, no, no, no. Open meeting law. I have to send it to Sabrina and then she'll send it out to everybody. But yeah, I will definitely everyone. What about the storage of liquid
petroleum products? That's correct. Except the following. And there I circled it. It said it's normal household use, outdoor maintenance and heating of a structure.
I don't think those should be allowed, right? Oh, I agree. This Yeah. Um, except would they be allowed on the soccer soccer fields? They needed it like storage for gasoline for the lawnmowers.
I mean, we don't currently have our own lawnmowers. We have a company that mowers. Oh. Um, so leave it as is then because then that will encourage if it's not allowed
And again, um, where it would be stored would be within would it it wouldn't be within the conservation restricted area. Right. Right. Right. It would be in the shed or
whatever they had there. Yeah. Right. So I think prohibiting storage of liquid petroleum products period and that would just be on the
conservation restriction land not doesn't have to do with with the soccer field land. Okay. Yeah. So we're not preventing it from the soccer field land. We're preventing it from the restricted
space and the same later on it's the same could be said for the uh storage of chemical fertilizers. Uh it's not on this the conservation restriction land but they might do you use fertilizer. You must Yeah, we use
fertilizer. Okay. So, okay. Now that that one that said storage of sludge and septage that I think is the portaotty thing
is that maybe so the question is do the do the portaotties need to be moved from where they are right now at the very end of the driveway so within the soccer field. Well, that end
of the driveway is connected to the soccer field area because field two is right beyond that. Oh, that's true. Which is why we are Yeah, we have it there because it's near that furthest field.
The only thing is that wasn't it within that circle around a certain distance around the well site? No, he Oh, it wasn't. Okay. Um I believe the water department person had said
that entire parcel was water departments and it's not. It's the that okay 400 the 400 or whatever and that end of the um
parking lot the last I would say maybe 10 ft of it is on that last parcel. So it's only just barely part of that 23 acre parcel. Okay. It's definitely not
within the 400 in that circle. Okay. Uh do you have is yours? Okay. First removal consist. Do you want construction and placement of any uh permanent structures?
All right. I know. Did you get rid of the storage of chemical fertilizers? There it is. There it is. Yeah. Yeah. So, I think we need that one. It's allowed on the soccer fields, but again, the the soccer fields aren't
part of the restricted area, right? But I thought we needed to come up with the what's allowed on the soccer fields as well, don't we? I didn't think so. Oh, we don't.
Well, I thought we I think we do. I think we have to, you know, decide what's going to be allowed on those. At least make those recommendations to Yeah, because it's zone two. The soccer field is zone two. And I think, let me get over here. And I think these apply
to zone one and zone two, correct? Yes. So that's for the groundwater protection district that would apply. But for the conservation restriction, I think we need to figure out if we have
to have a map of where the restriction is in place and where it is not. Right. Because that that one soccer field, the farther out one, yep, could could be
affected by these If what's a space if um well but we're not putting in a groundwater protection district. We're just adding these things to our conservation restriction. Correct. Correct. And and the con conservation
restriction land does not include the soccer fields. It's only the land to the um side of the driveway and um
outside of the soccer fields. Well, I totally agree. Um but I did think that we didn't need to do both. We needed to decide on what are the pro the allowed and prohibited uses
in the CR. And then I also thought we needed to go across the driveway, the parking lot and decide what we were going to allow or suggest what was going to be allowed uh on the soccer fields.
And if if that's true, then I don't see the downside of just taking all of these instead of like going through the way we're doing it now. just take all of
them and apply them to the CR and then cherrypick those that we want to reward that help us come up with the the prohibited use the allowed and prohibited uses for the
soccer field. The the downside is that I'm not sure that Fish and Game wants to deal with the soccer field allowed and not allowed things. So, I'm
not sure that they would be willing to hold the CR if we were extending their responsibility to be watching what's going on on the soccer fields. Okay. And and I agree,
but it was and and I don't know, but somehow I knew that the CR people, the holder, would be responsible for the restrictions. And maybe these suggestions were making
for whatever body um deals with the leasing of the fields and which is the town of Townsend which is the town of Towns. Somehow I thought we were supposed to do both. If we're just doing the restrictions, the conservation
restriction then we just take it as is. As it is, right? I that that was my understanding that that um we need to keep our advice towards the town of Townsen which is
leasing the soccer field land to Tesa. That's something that's separate from what we want written um in the
conservation restriction, which is the the land outside or beyond the soccer field. And we could certainly come up with advice
that would be in the lease, but but I think right now we need to cons concentrate on just the conservation restriction so we could get that ironed out and get a holder for the CR.
Can I ask a question on this? Because I'm looking at what Selena has up there. Are we including the piece of of property that that the second soccer field is on in SE? This um
map is old. This is from back in like 2018 or something. Um when the idea was to have the fields go to where to in between section. Um so
now the difference is that field two which is kind of grayed out right here. Yeah. Yeah. Um we still want to keep field two and instead uh Misa had asked that between field two and the
expanded area there's some area in here that stays naturalized. Um, I can probably pull up the latest site plan if you give me a second. But the point of that picture, sorry, the reason I put this up here was the
restricted area is out beyond it's the hillside um on the this side of the parking area. Um but making up a map like this that shows this is the restricted area and this is
the soccer area might be useful. Um yeah because I I will tell you when I told talked to Dave Vant he said the soccer fields are good except for the the soccer field in closest to the well. He
said if we use that well then there have to be some restrictions on that field is what he told me. Um because of its proximity to the well but I don't know.
Well I guess a part of this is um my misunderstanding of what we were being charged with. I thought we were being charged with both the CR and recommendations for the soccer fields.
If we're just want to deal with the with the CR now, that'd be fine with me. We won't even think about the soccer fields until we finalize the CR, which I really like the idea of just taking it
in total as is maybe adding another two one or two items that somehow we feel aren't quite included in this. But um I thought Emily when you made the suggestion which I
characterized as brilliant, it was uh just take them as it is. It was like we we're done with it almost and it can't be any more complete than it is now. I don't know.
We don't have to go through it and decide. Just okay, here it is. Unless you think it's just too comprehensive and some of the things don't apply, but I would think whoever holds it would
realize that and they would know which ones they would have to enforce. I don't know. I think we we we first have to decide are are we just doing the CR right now and maybe later we can talk about
suggestions for limits on on the soccer field area. So, so we got to get that clarified and then um we could just go again go through these point by point and say,
"Yep, that works. That works. That works. This isn't necessary." And and so on. Um and and just know what the CR thing is. But I really think for fish and game, we need to just be specific
about the CR. I don't think they want to have anything to do with the soccer fields. Well, yeah, I I Yeah, I agree. So, yeah, it'd be fine with me. I mean, I was presenting some of these things in
a way because I assumed that we were not only working with a CR, but we were also trying to figure out what we were going to do with the soccer fields. But if we just want to deal with a CR now, totally fine with that and then we can deal with
the other stuff later. Um, and isn't isn't the um um natural heritage program that that TAC is working with, aren't they making all sorts of suggestions about what's okay and what's not okay?
Yeah, they are. So, so that's that's being done at the state level, right? Is it in line with what we're doing, Selena? Like, are the things that they're saying yes or no? Are they
applying it only to the soccer fields or are they talking about the rest of it? They're only talking about the soccer fields. Um, and specifically only. So, this is the latest plan. It's going to
have a slight change from this. Um, this storm water thing down here is not going to be there. Um, we're putting a little small ditch along the fence line that's going to be a very very small just
little bloop instead of a thing at the end here. Um, so they are mostly concerned with us keeping this natural area here that's fenced in. And then on the other side of the
driveway, you mean? Yeah. Um, don't see my mouse here. Can't see your mouse. Yeah. This fenced in area. They want to keep that naturalized area. And then the the blue and the red are the
two new expanded um items that are down towards the Mason Road side of things. So we'll still field two, but we'll have this bigger area over here by field one.
Okay. So yeah, mostly they're just concerned with what we're disturbing and making sure we keep a natural area down toward field two rather than um yeah.
So field two is the far field, the one field two is the one down here furthest away from Mason Road. Okay. The the question is is that field part of the CR or is it not? Um
because it is in the parcel that mass GIS says towns and water supply land which isn't going. So if you look this black line right here is the property line that contains that parcel.
Yes. So see the very end of the drive the roadway is on that parcel and then field two is also on that parcel but it is nowhere near the circle for the well site.
Um the circle for the well site is out beyond field two. So I guess the question is are we delineating that parcel that field two is on? Are we going to somehow cut it out from the CR
or are we going to keep it in the CR? was my understanding that we were cutting out the soccer field stuff from the CR and and the there was a fence that was
going to be built that actually delineated this side is the soccer stuff and the other side is the conservation land. Yeah. And that's what this fence here. It's a split rail fence that we want to put in.
And I'm okay with that as as long as we can um I we need to talk to land use. I think as as long as we can um specify that somehow. Uh so this is the
um the Misa template. Mhm. And it says you can say the entirety of this parcel of land or a portion of the property. So it looks like we can specify it. We just have to figure out the verbiage.
Okay. Uh has Dillis and Roy done any surveying on that at all, Selena? or I'm wondering if they could help us with that. Yeah, they have. And I actually have like acreage for different portions. So, I
can do my homework, add to my homework to find out what the acreage of field two is on that third. And and if they have like meets and bounds stuff or however they're delineating it in your
map, we could put it in this and that would be perfect, right? I think add that to my to-do list. Okay. So, should we go back to what we're doing and you know going through what Michael suggested and because it's
pretty much I mean I would leave the irrigation piece in there. I I think that's a we would want that in there and that wasn't that's something that Michael pointed out that gets added to this that should
be added in. You have it there. irrigation of soccer fields allowed antivities. Yeah, but if the soccer fields aren't part of the CR wasn't the piping stuff you were going to need to go get
into the conservation. So, it depends on if the conservation area is along this side and then out here, then no, because we're either going to bring a pipe in from Horseshoe Drive right here,
or we'll come down the driveway, this new driveway that we're putting in. Okay. To our little shed, which is right here. Okay. Okay. So, as long as this north side isn't part of the conservation area or conservation
restriction, then it's not going to be an issue. Okay. All right. So, so let's go back and and just deal with the CR and trim it down to its essentials and uh
go from there. Yeah, good idea. All right. So where were we? We can take out irrigation of soccer fields for allowed use for for now. If we if we do decide that that's our also our responsibility
and after we finish this then we can go to that. Right. All right. I'm just going to plop them up here. Um, were we taking out the bicycle and horse or no? Uh, that's permitted.
Yeah, cuz down here we had said no bicycles. Yeah. Well, on the on the template here that it has it permitted, but we don't. I know that the water supply people
allow it. The question is, do we want to allow it in the habitat area like I think not. No. Yeah. Cuz this this bylaw that we're looking at is for water only. It doesn't consider the wildlife. So,
and in addition under prohibited was manure. And if you got a horses there, you're going to get manure there. Yep. And then the maintenance, repair, and enlargement of an existing structure.
There aren't going to be any existing structures. Not for soccer, but I think in the future it could be for water. So I would Right. Okay. So wait a minute. So if you go back up
the the one right after that says construction, maintenance, repair, and enlargement of drinking water supply related facilities. That w would be allowed. But the one before it, there aren't any existing structures. So that
could be eliminated, right? Oh, I see. Simplify. Yeah, we could. Yes. There we go. And this one's a soccer field one, so I'm going to move that cuz those are things then that could be
in the lease. Yeah. Okay. Okay. But the leaf is written and I think it has that stuff in it already, doesn't it, Selena? I believe it does. I don't know that it specifically calls out the portaotties. That's the only one
that I don't recognize. Okay. I haven't looked at the lease in a long time. So, all right. So where um but we're also excluding hunting from
the restricted the the conservation land, right? Um or or not. I I think we should because the soccer fields are right there. Yeah. It's too
close to the children. It kind of excludes itself anyway, but no no problem in calling it out, you know. So all right, they said outdoor recreation, nature
study, boating, fishing, and hunting where legally permitted subject to section. So you know, we just say it's not legally permitted. All right. So do we want to
um go through these again or do we want to jump to where we were? Landfills and open dumps. That makes sense. That can be prohibited. Automobile graveyards and junkyards
should definitely be individual and certainly there shouldn't be any sewage disposal systems there. I almost feel like this is overkill and we just say no building or
changing anything on the property with the exception of the water well stuff. I think if we don't say that you can't do it, then someone's going to say, "But you didn't say we couldn't do that."
Okay. You know, But I don't know if we need all that gobbly goop. It could just say individual sewage disposal systems, period. Well, let's let's just leave it as is for now, I think. All right. Um
and uh well, this is the replacement or repair of a system, which we don't currently have wood there. So, Oh, right. And do we really want to allow
a sewage disposal system that could receive some sewage on the property? No, we don't want any. Although, you know, if there's more than a well on that building, I guess they
could use a portaotty, too, you know. Um, oh, I didn't think of that. All right, we can leave it. But yeah, I think they've worked out the boilerplate description of these things.
Lawyers have done it and so it probably covers a lot that we might not think about. So this subsection D is there um definitions? Huh? There there are definitions above. Um yeah,
in the bylaw this is um right there's a whole Yes. that big. So that you think it would be this toxic Mhm. or hazardous materials.
So, do we want to put a section for definitions? We may want to. I don't know. It depends. I think we're getting um
I think we need to make it simpler and not all this right. We could always refer to the definitions in 14554 if we need to. um
and and be specific right there. And um in uh yeah, it's actually we're not writing a bylaw. Yeah, there we go. That's and like that part that says storage of animal manure blah blah unless blah blah
blah blah blah just can't we just write storage of animal manure period. Right? Because we don't want them to do it even if they do cover it. Right. Okay. And then where it says earth removal and
then it says except for excavations for building foundations, roads or utility works. We don't want them taking this the sand away because that's what needs.
I think they mean to build a foundation road or the utility it on the property. I don't think they mean taking it out, but it doesn't say that. It doesn't say that they couldn't take
it out to build a road somewhere else. Well, that's why it's prohibited for earth removal with the exception of excavation for a building foundation, road or utility. So like taking it out
to build those things. I feel like that's what it does. It could be interpreted as we need some earth down to fill in all the holes on Vinton Pond Road, so we're going to
get it from I don't know. I'm just see I read this the way Selena does that they could remove it if they were building a a road like from Mason Road into where the well would be in that one section.
Um well I can see I can I can see both interpretations. And if you um if you leave that out, then they can't remove the earth, right? But they also can't put in the well if
they need to. Like if they have to build a well building, they wouldn't be able to take the dirt out of the site to build the well building. But I think it says excavations on pro for for
buildings, foundations, roads or utility works on property on the property. Almost like take that out and put it there. Yes. That that's better. Okay.
treatment. I mean, do we want sewage treatment facil facilities there? No. Am I reading this right? Oh, I think the only thing that this would give us is that they are allowed
to treat the area if the water becomes contaminated then they can treat it to make it better. Is that what that means? Yeah, cuz it's for a net improvement of water quality.
says for wastewater except for well with existing water quality problems. Uhhuh. Okay. I have to read that one again. I'm not sure. Um and I'm not going to do it right now. Let's just keep going and get
through all of these and then Is this it? Yeah, we're close to the end. Oh, okay. Is that mine? Sorry. So I don't think we need the unless
here. Ah, sorry, right. Yeah, we can eliminate that. Let's check. I think we're good with the rest of
them. Yeah. Can we just back up to that? Yeah. to this thing. Treatment or dis. Do you want to read it out loud, Emily? That might help me. Treatment or disposal works subject to
um for waste water other than sanitary sewage. Treatment or disposal works for waste water other than sanitary sewage except for the following. The replacement or repair of an existing
treatment works that will not result in a design capacity greater than the design capacity of the existing treatment works. treatment works approved by the Department of Environmental Protection
designed for the treatment of contaminated groundwater. sewage treatment facilities in those areas with existing water quality problems when it has been demonstrated to both the Department of Environmental
Protections and the Board of Health satisfaction that these problems are attributable to current septic problems and that there will be a net improvement in water quality. I think we leave all of those there.
mostly for future things, not because any of them are there now. Okay. But that's that's how I read it. I mean, okay. Um because I don't think we can anticipate what might get put on that
um property. Okay. Is there a way in the conservation restriction to to make a statement that if the well
becomes is activated then the water department will be allowed to blah blah blah blah blah or I'm just trying to think about fishing games
willingness to hold the CR and whether um they're going to b at all of these things. That's all I'm thinking about. But we can we can present this and if
this if this isn't to their liking then maybe they could suggest ways to simplify it. I think so. Um
I think that's a good approach. Um, I do think if there's anything they're unhappy with, they'll let us know and then we can revise. Right. Okay.
Did we hit any of the application of pesticides, herbicides, insecticides? We didn't get to those, did we? I didn't see. Somehow on my version, there's more to it.
Um, so we got through here. So, okay. Um, so number two is the prohibited uses. We didn't get to number three.
And I don't know requiring special. Uh, here's the pesticides, herbicides. Yeah, that's the one. Okay. We just haven't gotten there yet. Maybe we need to pick that up and put it in cuz that's a prohibited use. Correct.
In the water district, right? Okay. Ah. Do we want any of these others? I think we may. Um, uses and activities requiring a special permit following are allowed in zone 2 and
three and only if allowed in the underlining zone and only upon. They may require maybe not activities that involve the I think number C is that a a notallowed
use any use that will render impervious. What's that like? Asphalt road. Yeah. Would that prevent them from building a road to the well though? I It would just um
It It just means that they wouldn't be able to pave it. I think I think they could still build the road. Um Huh. Actually, that's one thing. We don't want any dry wells.
Um because the turtles can fall in and not be able to get out. Yeah. So we might also would want this one. So let's pull those up and put them in then. Yeah, just application of fertilizers.
We do. Um I think all of F is a good one too. the construction of dams or other water control devices, ponds, pools. Mhm. I don't think the river is part of the property though. No, I don't think it is either. I'm
pretty sure the property doesn't extend to the river. What about the rest of um the So I don't know that we want to say this about the how much
we can leave that part out. Um I guess but what about the rest of it? Well the groundwater recharge would be if we're allowing them to render anything impervious. Okay. They're allowed to build a road.
Then they need to build a little um this the storm water infiltration basin. That's what I was saying for TASA. We're building a little ditch along the fence line. See, I think we need to we need to allow
that. Correct. Yeah, probably. I'm not sure how to put that. It's not a basin. The basin is also a thing that is deep enough that we don't want it. Um,
trying to remember what they said it was called. All right, cat. You got to get out of my way. Let me see if I can make this big enough to read. Yeah. So, we don't want a basin.
Okay. They don't have the verbiage that they used. They haven't gotten me the updated plan yet. Are you talking about a swale? What was that? A swale verbiage that you might be might have
heard. Swale. Okay. The only place we talk about a road in this, it's there. Have to look at that one. Do you
um um I'm I'm starting to wonder whether we could simply say something that the land should be kept in its natural state unless the um water department chooses to activate
the the um water well. I don't know something something a little bit more general. Where at are you thinking of that? You
mean in totality? You mean Yeah. Although maybe that can be in like a a preface or something where Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like I'm
getting bogged down in these details of construction that I'm not really, you know, I'm not an engineer. I'm not qualified to. Yeah. So I think again this is the MISA
CR template. They have this water quality protection that it preserves the natural undisturbed environment. Um Right. Something really really basic. Yeah, that's what that is.
Yeah. Um, okay. What are their prohibited uses? This covers a lot of the same things. It does, doesn't it? Yeah. And then but um that Roman numeral four removing, cutting, pruning or destroying
vegetation as part of our um habitat maintenance. We have to do some of that. Well, I think this is the accept as allowed. We would have to just make sure that the
habitat maintenance is included in right except right as well allowed for habitat maintenance. Correct. Right. Perfect. Yeah. This I like the way this is written better. It's more
it's easier to understand. Applying or using fertilizers in any quantity where it says um any commercial, recreation, other business or industrial use. We have to make we would have to
make allowance for um the the water well. Right. Right. [Music] Oh, what's that? Roman numeral five. with prior written permission the right to restore, maintain, enhance, or
otherwise manage biotic communities or habitats for native or rare species. So maybe we could add something that says adding a well, you know. Oh, I have mowing
Perfect. This one's actually pretty good. This whole What if So this is on the application. So, this is a template that Misa gives out. Oh, the template. Okay. What if we
use the template to see which what's already covered with those things that we went through? Uhhuh. And um decide which verbiage is better. Chances are it's going to be this one. So, we seem to like this better. And
then we see what's left over that isn't included in it that we might want to include. That sounds reasonable. So if we get if we get the copy of what we have now and we compare it to this and next time
we can sort of decide on which which words we want to use. And I might uh tell an that we're thinking the MISA with some adjustments that we'll make next time. I could do that. But that's what we're thinking of.
Y for the CR. Okay. Since she's not I think that's a good idea. Okay. So, everybody has this, correct? Everybody has an easy template. We got this in um I think the first email with all of the different
documents. Yes, it should be in there because this is what I sent out to um what I gave to Sabrina way back. So, okay. Um so, everybody should have this. Maybe I'll have Sabrina send it
out again so that people don't have to pull it out from the pile. And Sabrina and Selena, if you send to Sabrina what we talked about today and then we can compare them and see if there's anything that we can each look at them for
homework and figure out if there's anything else that needs added based on what we did from this um from this. Mhm. and then um
uh narrow it down that way. Does that sound good? Yes. Okay. And I will forward them to have it forwarded to Ann as well. All right.
Thank you. I'll take that. That way I'm gonna have to uh for the minutes for this meeting. Emily, if you would just put in a little note about the change in Zoom and the
new ID and passcode just so it's documented that way because I imagine it's going to be questioned. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. I'm looking at our agenda.
Um the so we've discussed the agenda for the next meeting. It will be to finalize the CR using the MISA template. Um pretty much and and we'll uh I'll talk to Ann
Selena, we'll talk to NRWA and um we'll be pretty close to set um after that. So, next meeting dates. I might 10th of July.
10th of July. I can do that. What day of the week? Uh, it's Thursday. Oh, Thursday at 7 p.m. Does that still work for everybody given that it's summer? Yes. Okay. All right. We have a new person at the
meeting here. Is that Riley? This is Riley. He seems very happy. Or is it a she? Is Riley a she? A girl. Yes. Seems very settled. So, Emily, I'm intrigued with your
offer. Um, but I would like to Who was that person who was lives near the location that had a couple of species that we we released that day
that had um Amanda? Amanda. Okay. I wonder because I don't interested in what's involved, the setup and how you do it. She seems to Okay.
Well, I I did it also. I've been doing it for the past several years, so I can walk you through the whole process. Okay. I would be glad to do that. All right. So maybe uh return your books at
sometime soon and you can show me what it might entail. Okay, we'll do. All right. Okay. All right. Do we have a we all any fur anything further before we adjourn? No. Okay. Motion to adjourn at 8:47. Is
there a motion? I'll move. All right. Is there a second? Seconded. Okay. So, Selena made the motion, right? Seconded it. Um, all those in favor of
adjourning at 8:47, roll call vote. Mike said, yes. Veronica Cow, yes. Alita Thomas, yes. Emily Fine, yes. Riley Fine, yes. We are true.