Um okay this is um towns and finance committee follow meeting to order 6:01 p.m. and attendance space. Roll call. >> David Walker present.
>> Walker present. >> President President present. >> Graham presents present. That's all seven members. We have a quorum. We are good to go. Um this
meeting is being recorded. by CCAM. It will be played back on the local cable channels and is also available on the Townson YouTube channel. At this point, is there anyone else recording
this meeting? None being heard. Um, no one else is recording. We will continue. Um, additions or deletions, I I have none. Um, is there any business? Anybody
um anything? No, it's kind of this year. Okay. Now, in the packet that I handed out because I failed to distributed the
second set should be the council the finance committee meeting 28. these two pages. >> Um, if people hadn't read them, I want to see give you the opportunity to read them now. Um,
or do you want to delay? I'll mail them out and we'll put it on the next agenda. >> Well, we can go over it now. I think anybody >> Yep. >> I'm okay. just going through. >> Yeah,
>> I thought I was the only one missing. So, >> they can't vote anyway. >> You You can You're not here? >> Yes. >> Oh, I didn't know that. >> Well, you also have the opportunity to >> I don't think you can.
>> I don't either. >> Um if you watch it watch it, Dave. Yeah. Washington. >> I was just there. There's other ways to see the the Yeah, it's kind of like um
>> I don't know. They look pretty good to me. >> Anything glaring out? Wait a minute. So under >> So what happened? >> My printer is running out and I >> Does anybody know what it says?
>> Um >> the last four. >> Yeah. The last four lines >> need to review in or modify municipal something. >> Oh, section. I think I [clears throat]
apologize. It's gonna >> need to review and or modify municipal transfer request reserve fund request forms need account numbers and extensions along with detailed information on why the funds are being requested. So the F
finance committee can make an informed decision. Very nice. So when you log these in or stamp these in, will that all be missing? Does that >> won't be missing because this is missing from my printer? >> After they're approved, I I
>> email the the original. >> So they'll be Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I Yeah, I email it from my Yeah. once they're approved. So yes, they won't be faded and you'll be able to read. >> That was the last thing I printed.
Everything else just you don't have to worry about fading. Well, I guess my only question on the minutes is through the discussion on the BBA. There were a number of places where we said we need
some information on this line. >> Did we get any of that? >> I I did not. That's my fault. I did not >> do we never get >> it submit. >> Okay. Okay. So, you did not submit the questions at the moment. Okay. >> Question,
>> but um I thought with us having a meeting was a good time to get them submitted for next week >> and then we can have a >> have a discussion with them that that helps towards you know if if the questions in 26 are going to carry to
the 27th. So picture for next week is about the FY27. This is >> So basically you're trying to clarify all the numbers that mean the same thing that they're using the same code. >> Yeah. I I went back over I didn't get an
electronic copy of the budget in Excel. So all that we have is the numbers in BVA and I haven't >> put it put it together. So, how how does this how does the budget we have relate to what the town voted for a
budget at the end of June? It's kind of like we we haven't been able to tie that together yet. >> Did they? >> Well, we voted a budget at the end of June. >> Yeah. >> And now all of the numbers are in the BBA
and so we have a they're supposed to match. It's kind of like it would be nice to have the file and see what >> matches. >> Yeah. What matches, >> right? Yeah, they should. >> They should. It's kind of like
>> Well, because we should be working. >> Well, if they don't, we don't have balanced budget, right? >> Right. It's kind of >> I thought we didn't have a balanced budget in June. >> We didn't, but since then they met with the unions and >> and so that didn't come about until like September, right? >> Yeah. But that contract doesn't end till
um June 26 that contract, >> right? But they didn't know what the numbers were going to be until >> until they had those negotiations with >> employed they didn't. >> So what so that's why I was the big question.
>> Where did it >> was backwards to me? They should have negotiated the numbers on transfer. >> Of course, they should have. >> Because when we voted on a budget, it was voted on a really a nonbudget. >> Exactly. >> So, the town voted on a non
>> what they voted on was the bottom line, which means anything in there can be moved. >> So, >> so how so why are we even going to bother go over it? >> But how do we even know that bottom line number was accurate? Because I had negotiated the contracts.
because I think that's as high as it could be, right? >> Um there was a vote to approve a budget with everybody getting full pay for and then there was a vote that said if we
don't get the override because the overrides still have to happen, then there's going to be a budget. And then there was a line, a single line in each segment that was supposed to track an amount from each section.
We don't know how that was and what what that is until we match and marry. We could take the BVA and go back to that, >> but we don't even know if the BVA is accurate. >> Correct. Because we don't. So, yeah. >> And that's why it was the
>> Do we have the certified budget? Has Harrison certified the budget yet? >> Um, I don't know if that has been certified yet. Um, I know I think it was >> Okay. So, once the budget's certified,
that's the one we should be working off of. >> That's right. >> Okay. So, Okay. So, once that's certified, we can say that's blessed and that's the one we're going to work off of. >> Right. That's my understanding. >> Is that why the percentages were off among them? some in the beginning when
when we first started looking with APAs, there was no dollars in the majority of the salary lines >> and so we were working >> um but the the last one we had had numbers on every line. So some of those that are
up that have the high percentages, those are the ones we have questions about why are they so high when we're only 33% say into this year. Some of them were were 50 60 and 70%, you know, not not longevity, not the not
the ones that made make sense, but some of the other lines. >> Yeah. Do the memberships. That's usually the beginning of the fiscal year and stuff, >> but there were some of them were like we're way up there, >> right? And that's what we've documented in the minutes is the ones we had
questions with. So, we'll get um get that. >> Yes, we did. Are we getting any um income figures? >> Um I had asked for them. Haven't seen them in my inbox. We'll go back and >> um because at the time they were
requested, it was um stated that they were just compiled them >> and that was like the beginning of September. So we should have them now because that is necessary so that we can get the certification on free cash. >> Okay.
Well, is that also necessary for the tax rate? >> Um, >> or no >> figure out what >> the tax rate is going to be set based on this year's revenue >> the recap sheet. >> Okay. >> You know, so it and that was the
question. It's let's look at the FY25 cap um recap sheet versus the FY25 actual revenues and see how close we were to match. It's kind of like, you know, were there were there places that we exceeded what we had said, you
know, it was was the amount associated with new build and and new real estate revenue uh real estate tax was that accurate? You know, that that sort of thing. You know, it's kind of like we you you can never tell how much
on real estate tax you're going to get on new builds and and new um and changes to um if it's not new builds, it's the renovations when you increase the property value. It's kind of like um those those numbers come in and you
guess how much there's going to be every year. But it's kind of like at at the end you have to get the accurate and and then we just we move on. We we set the next one again. >> Yeah. So sorry it's kind of like I
didn't >> All right. Should we need a motion to approve the the minutes, which I guess I won't make. >> I'll make a motion to approve the minutes of October 28th. >> October 29th.
>> October 28th through 202. >> I'll second that motion. >> Okay, we had a motion and a second. No changes with amended. Um, we can vote. All in favor?
All opposed. Motion carries unanimous. Minutes are accepted. >> Okay. Um, review data from the curbside the board health cur program. I don't think I presented this in our last meeting. So
this this was the information that I got for um through the September. So the first two sheets, the waste zero and the south state, >> right? The weight zero doesn't really say I mean that's
>> no that's just that was the header on the file. >> All right. >> So that comes from weight zero. Um the actual statement is about seven pages long but um the first >> Oh okay. So you didn't include the entire
>> I didn't include the entire seven pages. It goes into the detail. So the summary on the top um gives a big beginning balance the seven credits for the sale of this and this is for sales of bags to
the vendor. um >> sales of bags to the vendors, >> the the Hanniffords, the McNabs. Yeah. So, they're actually selling, you know, so I call them vendors. Um so, the storefronts that are selling them. Um
so, this is a report for how much they >> This is the revenue we receive. >> This is revenue we got from the bot where they sell it. >> Right. Right. So, it's kind of like >> income. Sorry. Did I get it out of sequence on you?
>> I don't know. it would be or is it a head or is it a honey? >> Well, it's I realized um today I um overall I think it's it's going well. Um so the revenue was was 40,000.
>> Um >> which I think is what we is ahead of what we thought. >> It's ahead of what we thought it might be. >> They think we're going to be around 20. >> So 30 >> 30,000 maybe. >> Don't put me. Well, what we don't have here is we don't have a report on punish
halls. >> We we don't they keep on keep on adding that. So, let me um but so the the cost for this so the revenue was total was4,000 and the cost for the bags were taken out. So, what was transferred was
the $35,487.50. >> So, what what what month period is this? >> Okay, this is June through September. Wait a minute. You're saying >> July? >> No, >> we started We started in June. There was $3,000 worth of money received in June.
>> Wait a minute. This is This isn't >> This is not the revolving account, though. >> This is not the revolving account. >> This is just the purple bag. So, it's saying we got 40,000, but we spent 40 40,243. >> Purple bag revenue only. You're saying
purple bag sales revenue only. >> Okay. So this is the purple purple bags revenue minus the expenses. So we transfer it into they transferred into the revolving account. They transferred $35,487.50.
>> Do we know what it costs per month for shows to pick up? Do we know what? >> Hold on. Are you sure? I'm not because it says we started with a beginning balance of 35731. And then we ended with 35487.
So that says we lost >> 243. >> Yeah. >> So have we lo So this is this is >> the way zero account. This this is not
this is not our account. Um um sorry tcam. Um would you allow me to share please? This is So what's the way zero account? I don't understand way zero is who manufactures
the bags. The proc the process goes the >> So this is not a town account. >> This is not a town account. This is how much is is trans transacted between way zero the vendor that produces the bags and the
retailers. So this is like buy them >> an invoice. So why do we have this? I mean >> well this is where this is where the money this is this is the base from this they transfer money to the town's account >> okay so we don't know like we don't know
how much we [clears throat] how much uh gave or how much sold that one >> we don't have the detail so let me let me see if I can share this is with confusing okay sorry it's kind of Okay.
>> So, are you telling me this is like just detailed backup for the revolving account? >> Um, >> this isn't the revolution. >> I I understand >> this. This is the data that makes its way to collar and that's what collar
puts in to the form. Um, so >> coller is is the health administrator. >> No, I know who she but I mean makes it way to color but she doesn't keep it. She puts it somewhere, right? >> Well, it it's all the process allows it to transfer into a town account. So,
she's she's validating that the amount that we were transferring per bag sales for September was the 35,000. >> So, this says remote capture deposit. >> Yeah. >> That deposit of $450 went into
>> that >> this account that they owned by way zero. >> Correct. And we don't have any power to spend this money. Way zero. >> Not until it's transferred to the town. >> Yeah. But under this account, we don't do that. >> We don't do this account. It way zero
does this at the end. There is a transfer amount. Let me um I am sharing the Excel file that is put together with it. Let me let me get to the >> So do you think that the 450 is like say
Hanniffords and the 2300 is like somebody >> Let me let me get to that. There there is individual um pieces. So what? >> So somebody sold $28,400. >> So um >> this all happened in one like two week
period. Oh, no. I guess it's this is a month. So, >> it's a month. Um >> I don't understand. The credits is 40,000 and the debits is 40,24350. >> I think those seven items at the bottom. >> Yeah, >> is the 40,000.
>> That's the 40,000 in revenue. >> I'm not seeing where the take out is. There is no take out. How How do we get a minus? >> How do we get to 35,000? Where's the two debits? >> Okay. Well, there's two devices of what? Yeah, I don't know. >> Okay. No,
>> thanks. >> I guess the page page. No, let me let me get >> Where's page two? >> Well, it's we'll we'll get there. Um I can't print on the printer here. So, the only thing we can do is share.
>> But we can't see that. >> Well, that's we already have that. That's a remote deposit, >> right? >> Yep. though that's that's what I brought in from there. So, let me >> let's see page two. >> Yeah,
>> that's gonna say we're 243. >> Okay, there I'll blow it up. Let me get up. >> I don't understand it either, Dave. >> Yeah, >> we had 35,000. We got 40.
It was it way zero had 35,000 people. >> How much let's go >> take a look at it. Let me see if I can >> they made the they made it abundantly clear during one of those meetings that
they weren't going to divulge that pages. Yeah, there's nothing extra and there's not page two or >> this is the start. If we go down, we can see that there was a transfer to commercial analysis. >> I don't see this.
>> Oh. Oh, so we don't have everything. >> No, it's kind of I >> because it was about the revenue. I wanted to show the the balance that was was there in transfer. >> But do we have that money? >> Is that money we have? >> Okay. So let me get to the bottom line
on this. Um see so then so this is they transfer so the the selling of the bags from them to us the cost is $4,513.50 >> from weight zero for toss >> weight zero. >> No this is this is
>> this is a sum. Okay. Don't worry about that. >> We're gonna let's not go into those. weeds yet. It's kind of like this is a top more of a top level. There was 40,000 in revenue from the purple bags. >> There was a cost transferred to waste
zero for producing them for $4,513.50. >> Okay. >> The wire transfer to the town of Townsen from this line is $35,730. But that that was that says 92. So that was probably the August transfer.
>> The people that make the bags. >> Yes. Yes. The waste waste waste. They don't give us an invoice for producing them. They take their money from the revenue that they have a contract somewhere, right?
>> We have a contract with weight zero. Produce them. Yes. >> Okay. So the >> Okay. So that's the 35. >> So the so the first so the so the transfer on 92 is probably August's income of transfer, >> right?
>> Then you have the 4,000 so and so of expenditure in September for producing bags. >> Then you have 40,000 of income from the bags. And then so now in October we should see a subsequent transfer of >> so the September funds
>> the September funds of some of >> correct >> the hopefully this left amount of money 35487. So when when we get further down in in the file in what I've got the the first line shows that
it's Hannerford and they received 18,500 on September 12th and it was a check. So Hannerford on November 12th gave them 18,500. >> Give who? >> Way zero. They pay way zero for the
bags. Hannifford does not give the town money. Way zero is >> the middleman. >> The middleman. Way zero will sell bags to to Hannifford and the other >> um suppliers >> suppliers
>> and they collect all the money at the end of the month. They transfer the money to the town of Townsen account. >> Does do we know how many bags were sold? >> Yes. Well, um, >> not moneywise. Number-wise, >> probably not.
>> You'd have to do some finagle with the with it. Let's see if further down if they break it down into how many of each, please. >> So, are the two debits this period the the transfer to Town? >> No. One is trans one is a transfer to
Towns and one is >> one is the transfer >> with zero basically taking their fee. >> So, they got $243.50. 50 cents. >> No, they got the 4500. >> Okay. What's the 4350? >> Okay. >> So, so does that ending balance of 35 or
8750 is that the amount that was transferred into the town account? >> No, that's probably the amount when they when he showed the tra the two debits, the first the third the the large debit to the town was done on 92.
So that was probably August's income transferred on 92 >> the $450. >> No, the $35,000 plus >> then >> the 35. >> Okay. So >> I was just trying to figure out which one of these figures was actually put
into the town. >> So I think if you look if if you go back up >> D. Yep. >> Uh right there. So, so the one that says 92 outgoing wire transfer town of
Townsen. So, they sent us 35,730. >> 35,700. >> Yeah, we don't have it. >> It's on the line. We don't We [clears throat] don't have that part of the >> Okay. So, that's They transferred $35,730, >> right? >> How did they get that?
>> That was probably August's. That that was August >> remaining balance >> not a statement for August that we don't have or is this to be statement >> they okay this this is the raw data >> we we get >> it's like a bank statement to me
>> well it is gets this and then puts it into a spreadsheet for us >> okay >> so so the spreadsheet that color provides >> okay that's maybe that's better than looking at this shouldn't be back on me.
>> Well, but I was just trying maybe I'm I apologize. I probably gave you too much detail kind of. Um, so the >> I don't think so. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, this is her spreadsheet. >> This is her spreadsheet.
>> Okay. Is there a way to blow that up a little bit? Maybe see the first couple of lines. >> Do you want to start blowing? >> I may have to. >> Okay. You've you got enough for one more? >> One more. >> Let me get free paintings first, please.
>> Even if we just see a few lines, we get the idea of how this works. >> Okay. Okay. So, so for for the August um I
>> So the 11th of August we got the waste zero money from July, >> right? Y >> and that was 34,426, >> right? >> Yep. And then the rest of the lines were the daily amounts of how much she was collecting for the stickers.
>> Okay. >> Okay. So, you can see there's a lot of resident stickers. Um there's also the 12950 for page throw bags from the office.
Okay. >> Is UNDI pay the online form? >> Um UNIP UNIPE is the online uh sticker sale. >> Okay. >> Um and those are those are the transfers
for the online sticker. Then what I did from the date the raw data that I tried to tried to show um I brought in the the deposits that for the bit and
and that was $40,000 and then I looked at the $4,513.50 50 cents. That's IR is the way zero cost. And when you highlight this, you come down to the
um sorry, I got to shrink that a little bit so I can >> The spreadsheet she sent you did not include September's activity. >> It did not. It's kind of like um >> so you kind of tried to paste September's activity from >> wave zero on the end,
>> right? >> Um >> just so that we see it. >> So that that amount is the $35,486.50, >> right? Then if we go back to to this >> well the dollar difference because they didn't send they sent us forth 35730 not
35731 >> um >> which is what it starts as the beginning balance on 8:30. >> That's why I was getting confused. >> They held back a dollar on us. >> Well okay. So but that was the September 8th. >> Right.
>> Yeah. So on Carla's spreadsheet, does it show what the balance is in the revolving account? >> It it does not. We we're working on that to to try to get that. It's kind of like because in this spreadsheet, we didn't put in the 160,000 um >> from town meeting
>> from town meeting. So it's kind of >> I thought it was in there. If you go back to your >> It may be it's kind of like you >> go up a stabilization credit. There it is. Yep. Um, >> so what this does not have is this does not have payments to Shaws.
>> It doesn't have payments to Shaws. When I asked if we had it so far, they need >> Yeah, Wes conversation I had with her was a month ago. >> Are they building uh monthly or quarterly? >> I um >> used to be monthly, but I don't know.
>> Yeah, it was a long time ago. Leave Carley come in and talk to us and give us >> Yep, we can we can get that. >> Does the enterprise fund know that's going to cover the cost of the SH contract?
>> That's what it's for. >> Yes, it's only that's all it does. The money goes in pay for the trash contract, >> right? >> But doesn't the tonnage get paid out somewhere else? >> No, the tunage gets paid out of this too. out of the same account because that's where the >> is said that all part of the contract.
>> Yeah. >> But it varies from month to month. >> Well, yeah. Yeah. >> So, I think the transport fee is the same every month. >> The transport fee should be a 12. Yeah. Yeah. 112 >> 112th. And then the tonnage changes the
gift. I think I remember this reading. >> One of one of the >> of the total year contract. So >> there was a base contract. The contract was two parts. A base fee
>> plus the tonnage charges. >> Okay. >> The base fee is what is what you're saying is basically 112 per month. >> Yeah. >> Right. you know, >> and so you and your little chart there shows us basically
>> based on your little calculations that there should should be four we have 41715 at the start of October. >> Right. Correct. >> But then you have to add going forward you'll have the bags >> going forward you have the bag money
coming in and the fees going out. So if if we look at it the the bank fees will for September there was in in this file there was no additional um sticker fees. So this 40,000 went in the
4513 came out. So then the debt for the month was there. So in August we had the total of 290 and I just flip on this. This in this
includes the 160,000 from stabiliz from this uh from the stabilization transfer, >> right? >> So, >> and then all the all the uh >> and all that >> all the all the fees all the sticker fees
>> all the sticker fees and and that then the rest of it was just the bag fees. >> So, how are we going to know if we're in the red or the black? What do we not know? >> We we don't know yet. Once we add the tonnage fees in here, we'll see more debits on the on the account or
>> so this is not your first month that the statement came out. Do we get this statement every month? >> Yes. >> So, >> and and it's something >> picking up a bank statement in the middle of operations isn't very helpful.
I mean that's why the income is >> versus the what the expenses are. Would we paying to sh every month or is there some reason >> it would be good to see that
>> what's the 5,000 debit in August? Is that an estimate by you? >> If we look at the raw data um it was an estimate. It was an experiment just to see that. Okay. We we we >> you basically you just picked picked the estimate for the tage.
>> Yeah. I I just put a number in for tonnage cost just to see >> would have come up in the pivot table. What what would it look like? >> Right. >> But I mean >> just >> But how do we know what can we get the August one? >> Yeah.
>> Because it says here beginning balance 35. So did that. How did that get there? >> Ending bail open. >> No, >> the beginning balance is 35731. >> So this account was open before >> it. It's been open for a while.
>> It's probably been open as long as the bags program. >> Yeah. This the bag program is not new. This this has been ever since we've had purple bags for overflow, this program has been in place. It's just that the doll is associated with it now
>> have changed >> have changed. >> Yeah. Then you didn't have the sticker. So we just they just implemented a sticker. >> Um but the bags have been there for what years. >> No no it it's kind of like the bags have been there for multiple years because
this is the same process for overflow bags. >> Oh that we always had >> we always had overflow bags at 350 a bag. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh that's right. Yeah. >> Right. or that that was implemented what five six years ago. >> So this account has been five or six years. >> So we're just getting
>> this this is one snapshot in one month. >> This is mainly because we have an enterprise fund that we're >> making sure that >> right >> we don't run out of money in. >> Yes. >> Right. And and it supports itself or as board of health said this is the data
gathering year. It's kind of like because if it's going to be a successful program, we may have to change what the sticker fee is, >> but we can't really tell yet because we don't know what the fee >> we can't tell yet because we don't know the total cost yet. Correct. And we and in this file, we haven't taken out the
monthly, >> but we don't know what they're paying [clears throat] monthly to show us. >> Well, the opposite of the budget. The budget we knew what we didn't know what was coming in, but we knew what was going out. This is we know what's coming in, but we don't know. >> And we know some wasn't. >> We never know all the facts. Okay. Um,
we will get there. It's kind of like but this this is a work in progress. This is the first year we've seen it. We've got questions about what we're putting together and I'm sure the board of health does too. They want to be able to present a picture of health of their program. So, it's kind of like we'll
work with them and uh and get there. >> Yeah. They would like to see it. >> Yeah. And >> as I was looking at the revenue, I I think another view would be just incremental revenue give you give your total revenue, right? >> Um and so you can because this is month
over month is showing you where it is. But we had the biggest amount of revenue in in August because we sold the most stickers >> that's going to flatline pretty much. >> Exactly. So it's kind of like so
>> September is really the the first month of bag sales after you required the stickers >> to dispose of your trash. >> Does the sticker go with the house? If I was to sell my house, does the sticker go with the house? >> Well, if it's on your trash barrel, leave the trash barrel,
>> right? Then you'll leave your trash every night. Um >> I just got to I'm just having to think of it. >> Some people have it on their mailbox. >> I know, right? I know how legal. >> I don't know how legal it is either. You can't put it inside. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. I suppose you >> because people always decorate their mailboxes, right? >> So they decorate it with a sticker. >> They decorate it with a sticker. >> Topic. >> Thank you. Kind of better always messing with
we will get more detail. We'll get the tonnage in here. Uh but we should be able to produce charts from having all the data in one place, the revenues with the expenses and start showing what the total overall operation of the program is and we
should be able to look at the tonnage reports. Um yeah, because my personally have a concern and >> I want to look at it and see >> right if they have a concern or not. >> The tonnage reports and the monthly fees for the tonnage is what's going to make or break the program.
number one. But number two, I sort of question, are they on a different truck on Wednesday for their private pickups? >> Oh. Oh, I'll have to notice what I mean. >> I would think they'd have to. >> I didn't I have no idea. >> I don't know cuz that because my trash gets picked up on Wednesday,
>> right? So they private pickup for shop is Wednesday. >> So do you have any neighbors? >> It it's kind of like I think they should. How do you separate? I do >> private pickup from town pickup. >> I mean I'll do a separate
>> different trucks. >> That's my only guess. So this time it is on Wednesday. So >> and that's what I'm saying is how do we know separation of sticker program? >> Oh,
>> versus private. >> Right. Because they better not be putting the private tonnage on our sticker program. >> But how do you know they aren't? I got to get out. >> Well, that's that's gets into the tonnage reports and >> we can do number of stickers per street that's picked up on each day. Just do an
average of >> Wow, I didn't think of that. >> It's kind of like So that's me kind of. >> So >> it it's just just a thought. So anyway, >> well I say that's a question we want to ask the board of health to ask Jaws. >> Right. Right. Board of Health and Shaws
and Yeah. >> Well, yeah. I mean the board of health won't know. We need them to ask Shaws. How do you separate? >> Maybe they tune. >> Now, what about the town building pickup? So, town hall, the library, senior center, and stuff
>> is that that's not part of this town, correct? That is separate. >> We voted that in the budget is separate, too. >> And we and we know that that is separate that that's not being included in the tent. I would think so because you have to empty those differently
>> cuz it's this >> it's the dumpsters okay >> versus a different pickup. >> I remember somewhere in the when we were doing the budget the >> was the town was different than what we were talking about and that's the number for the town pickup.
>> Yeah, it it's between 9 and 10,000. Um but um but because the receptacle is different. It's a dumpster versus versus >> barrels >> and kind of and bags >> or whatever you use. So we we will get
more detail behind this, but I wanted to at least show that we're getting some data from Florida Health. >> Okay. Um so we accepted the minutes and then had discussion about the bill minutes. Oh, no. That was a hug. Sorry.
>> Yeah, that was okay. >> Yeah. So, we'll just again with with that we'll get more data. Um >> yeah, we just need to keep getting >> data from them. >> Yep. >> Okay. Next item on the agenda, we have
an invoice payment. >> I make a motion that we pay out. Express. No. >> No. You're going to pay not me. >> MMA. Whoever. >> Yeah.
>> So, but I don't you know I >> Oh, I make a motion to pay the invoice number one. How about this? Number 139350. Yes. >> For the MMA conference. >> October 18. on October 18th, 2025 in the
amount of $65. >> Second. We have a motion. Right. >> Any discussion? >> Carol, you want to say something? No, >> I seconded. They've seconded. That's all I was going to say. He beat you to it.
>> Sorry. >> So, we had a motion and a second. Any any discussion? >> I don't think we need any discussion on that. >> No, I want to go. >> Yeah. All in favor? >> It's really pretty. I >> all opposed unanimously
in choice. I will I will get it whether it's through the selection or if I submit if I don't I'll get it onto the warrant to be paid off. Next item
um is >> well printing >> 10 book for printing 10 books >> right so >> it's up significantly over last year >> okay so >> $200 right
>> yeah it was it was it it was about $25 a book last here >> 25. >> I think that was the >> Yeah, it's huge. >> And now it's it's like >> 10 copies is 625. Um 15 copies is 671.
So that you know that and and again we suspect that this is a every four-year um update of the handbook. >> I don't think we need 15 or 20 books. >> Well, I don't I don't think we can afford 10 though. No, but that's the
thing. It's kind of like, so the 10 is that, but I was thinking trying to think ahead of >> if it's four years, how many are we going to all be the same seven members for four years? >> Absolutely not. >> You have them sign it out and sign back.
>> Sign it back. Okay. Yeah, we can do that. >> And if they don't sign it back in, you're burning the house down. >> Yeah. >> We have Do we have So we don't have We don't have any copies of this book. Is that correct? >> Only Only the online. >> Only the online. So I think that's what
we I think we just stick with that. >> Yeah. >> How many >> if you want if you want a hard copy, you got to print it yourself. >> Oh yeah, it's a lot of pages. Was that 100? >> Oh, yeah. >> I mean, but but we've we've been >> talking about the fact that we have to
be a little more fiscally responsible as a town. I can't see us saying we're going to spend $600 on a book that we get online. >> May I suggest we have at least one or two books printed? One for u maybe the vault in the clerk's office and then one
that sitting on the table. >> And if we're going to do that, does it make sense to print and put in a three- ring binder? Because at that half a penny or a page it's >> without having a bind that binder
>> right. >> Oh no the book the book was bound. >> The book was bound. We we we did binding and all that or do we >> reach out and see if it's >> What would it cost if we just printed it off here? >> Um >> and then put it in binders
>> just a regulator. >> Yeah. Yep. I mean, does everything ever change every year or is it just a few things that change? One or two pages that change >> by the marking it up and and going through and finding the pages would be um so
see >> did we use it last year at all? >> We did. I thought we I thought we used it a lot. >> It's kind of like it's as far as personal reference and things. It was um so 187 pages times >> Oh, it's 187 pages. You know that? I
think that's what I remember. >> So, it's about >> it was a lot because I was gonna print. >> Oh, this is like a real good math thing. So, 625 divided by 106 250 divided by 187, right?
>> Yeah, it's kind of but I think it's I think it's half a penny a page >> for the print plus the raw d. So let's let's say >> plus the ink >> plus the toner is kind of so let's say it's about 3 cents a page
>> three cents maybe >> it's going to be 561 plus the binder >> $561 or $5 >> $561 >> and you can get the binders over in Devon's >> at the dollar store it's a dollar a dollar
>> and we can print maybe we can print one color page I would say if you I mean, you know, >> they're all 25. >> I I would say if you if we're thinking of doing that that we do that for the copy that you want to put in the vault and then the one copy to pass around and just do it just do two.
>> Don't Don't forget $6. I'll give you my $6 so I can have a coffee. >> Yeah. if he so but that that would be the thing is maybe we can talk to them and say you know we want to print this number of pages let's transfer money out
of our account to cover to somebody else's office supplies um that pay in the printer >> y >> so that will be and again the way the press goes there's a whole thing about setting up the press to print
>> wait a minute so you're saying that we would pay 6250 for one book. >> No, no, no. >> If if we >> if we got it from them and $5.61 if we printed it ourselves. >> Correct. Yeah. Thereabouts. >> I think we have no You're right. >> Yeah.
>> I don't understand them. >> That's they put it under expensive machinery. It's not just running over to a couple with a piece of paper. >> Yeah. But it's still
>> Yeah, I think you want one book 6250. But is one book 6250? >> 28 bucks. Almost 100 bucks. No, it's it's it's more than because the Minute Man Press is going to create plates for eight. It's say an eight page machine.
So each plate is laid out with eight pages on it. Yeah. >> And then they run ink on it. >> No, we'll do it from computer. We don't have a computer cuz Carol sent it to us, right, Carol? >> Yeah, I did. >> Yeah. >> And I have it here,
>> right? >> No, I understand that. But if you want to bring it, then you can get it because you can download it bigger picture. >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I agree. >> No, but if we said you can talk about
transferring and paying some office supply money for the for the cost, right? We >> for the cost of putting printing the one volume that you wanted to print to >> have available for people to borrow or whatever or to store like you said,
>> we can we can pay whichever office we ask to print it for us, we can pay them >> for six bucks or whatever, >> right? But do we want to do more? And >> I mean, >> no. I I would say this is one of those
things that if if I want a personal copy, I have to print it myself at home. >> Mhm. >> Or or wherever I would go to >> you. Go to the library and do >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Yeah. Put it on a thumb drive to the library. Will they do it that way if
they have per sheet at the library? >> Yeah. It's five. I think it's five cents. >> It's five cents a sheet. >> So it comes out to 9. Do they have a limit in how many pages you could print? >> You can bring your own paper. >> I was going to say I'll bring my own.
>> I have two rings in my car. >> Yeah. >> So, I mean an alternate I can go back and see if there's something some place. >> How much is on budget this year? >> Um our budget was $750. >> That's all we got. >> Um
>> in in the dues and membership. Yeah. It's kind of like and we had paid the um 201 for the membership to MMA and we p just paid 65. So there's $474. >> So where would we get the extra 200 if
we went for these 10? >> Well, that's the thing. You know, we can if if we do >> Well, I think we've already decided we're not going to >> All right. Let's make a motion. We're not going to buy >> I don't think we need to make a motion on that at all. No, we can we can just
you know >> this was just a discussion now that we have >> a little too complicated for the book >> right >> when when it was $20 a copy.
>> Yeah. >> And glue it together. >> Yeah. >> I know what it takes to make one of those. >> Yeah. backing and >> it's not all that terrible and it's not all that expensive and they have copier
just like we have copy these things >> and it depends on the machine you're using kindest machine but it's laminated >> laminated or on the And
>> but that's but that's the >> higher quality paper too because the book that we got last year was a higher quality paper than >> we should printer paper. >> We should >> we didn't get to that yet. >> So are we moving on? >> Yep. Yep. We're ready to move on.
>> So what's the meeting on the 19th? The meeting on the 19th um was to discuss the preliminary um review for the FY27 budget. >> I thought, wasn't it originally supposed
to be with this three towns and the schools? >> Um >> that's where I thought >> that's I thought I thought it was, but I think that might be >> uh the Margario piece. >> Oh, that's the 19th.
>> No. Why Margaret was >> um the school Margaret Sky was sponsoring >> school funding or something >> school funding on >> Yeah, I you're right. I thought it was the three towns with >> I thought that
>> Yeah, I thought it was a preliminary sit down for the budget for the schools so we know where they're coming >> from. best practices for FINA >> by the state that was best that we should meet with the schools in October
which has passed of course and then we should get a clue what they're going to do so we can move forward so that didn't happen this is this 19th is not that correct >> so what is the >> yeah what is it >> is it
>> discuss fiscal 26 budget >> 27 27 >> the 27 the changes to the spreadsheets and preparation for the FY27 budget >> changes. >> What did they say? >> Budget method
>> of the codes. >> The numbers >> or the numbers? >> The numbers. They can discuss that. >> You mean the account numbers or the I think the balances? >> No, the account. >> The account. So that when somebody says office supplies, is it office supplies
or is it um like contract for an office machine or something like that? >> Yeah, but I don't think we're going to have a meeting about that. >> So what are we talking about? Are we going to go on or
>> we have to post it? We have to post it as a joint meeting. >> We're going to post it as a joint meeting. >> What tightness of that? 6 o' that's going to be posted by Monday. >> Monday. >> Yeah, it's a Wednesday in this.
>> We have no idea what it's >> not at this point. I hope. >> So, are we going to do that school? Are we going to follow best practices or not >> to meet with the schools? >> I mean, I I would I would like to do that. >> Well, it's getting closer to the end of the year.
>> Well, yeah. And they got to be they have to be working on their budget, too. Yeah. >> But that's the point is to do it in progress. So we have a pool. >> So they have budget meetings, right? They have a bud do they have a like a budget committee. >> They have a budget committee. Yeah.
>> Maybe the only way you're going to find is to attend them. But maybe, >> right? Or ask. >> Yeah. Ask our >> they think they're >> So if we attend by Zoom and all of us go on, is that a meeting? only if we if if
we're there forformational and we're not discussing and making motions. It is it is not a meeting. It's kind of like that. Um very similar to town meeting. We're all there for town meeting, but we don't have a we don't post a separate meeting for that. Well, I thought I
heard at the last selectman's meeting that that it was going to be the town accountant, the um >> that finance committee or whatever new finance I don't but that >> finance >> well team the finance team they're
putting together again that was that's something >> who is the finance team >> um well if I'm looking at this it should be treasurer it's kind of >> I do have it up here I'm looking at it it's an email from Nelson the purpose of the meeting is to present some
preliminary FY27 financial data. Elizabeth Bracker from CBiz, the the accountant is going to be there. The assessor town collector will be there for the select. >> Is that the one that says >> we don't have to come? Is that the one that says that you want to send somebody
fine, you know? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, I don't think that's going to be Zoom. >> Is that on Zoom or >> I would expect they do a Zoom. Yeah. It's not going to be the 19th. >> Um, well, no, I'm sorry. This is the 19th. This is with the town. The one on
the 20th >> with the schools and Margar. >> Yeah, but that's a different town. Yeah. >> No, no, no. Forget about it. >> Well, it's more than three towns. If it's in Gen Dunable, it's going to be
all >> Yeah. I mean, it might be interesting. What time of day is that at? >> I think it's >> right. I thought it was during the day, but I can't remember. >> I thought it was at night. >> Milit County. There you go. District
whatever. Right. >> If it's posted. >> So, yeah. >> Where did that post? >> Okay. So this one on the 19th is a treasurer. No school.
>> No, this No, this is preliminary. >> So is this an exchange or are we just going to listen to what they're going to do? >> No. >> I Well, I thought it was everything. I, you know, I thought it was the preliminary 27 and I thought it was for us to um
>> I thought it was here though. No, this year on the 20th is school. >> It is at brought down story. >> That's a Middle Sex County is what that's all about. It's grat. >> It'd still be interesting to go to to
see what the state >> is thinking. Yeah. Well, it was not >> the state doesn't think >> and since they when we asked for the emergency funds and was voted down, I
don't think we have to worry about getting any extra >> any extra money. >> Yeah. So, >> cities get it. >> We don't. >> But I think they're getting into a financial crisis, aren't they? >> Yeah. So, um I I just called up the
um six has has posted um school funding discussion with representatives. Um >> what time is it? >> Um at 6 p.m. >> Oh, it's at the what? >> At the Marian Started Performing Arts
Center in Gretland Dunl. >> Oh, at the Yeah. >> And that's at the school, right? on 119 where the old high school used to be. Oh, >> right. But she's had these discussions
before. Nothing ever happened. So, >> exactly. Yeah. >> It's like Yeah. Yeah. [clears throat] >> So, the 19th. >> So, the 19th >> That's the 19th is us with the board of select, >> right? And that's the one I can't I
can't be at that one. >> I can't either. will be absent. >> Yeah. If you don't, >> you can be absent, too. >> That still leaves a law. >> Yeah. Right. Again, if you're not if
you're not transacting business, it >> is anformational section. You don't have to post a meeting. >> Okay. So we could still come even though we might have a >> I'll post a meeting for next week for next week. >> Yeah. Just make sure. Yeah. I was
talking about the 20th. >> Oh, we're back and forth. >> Oh, with the No going for that. >> Oh, I'm not going. >> No, that's that's a waste of time. I >> and I didn't think the school would do
two nights in a row of budget meetings like that. So, >> um but you're right. I think the the first one was supposed to be with the three towns in the schools. >> That's why Yeah, they had said that at a selectman's meeting I think on the 21st when we were there.
>> I think you're right. talking about that finance team is doing that and that's whatever >> that's what it looks like is the finance team >> for >> on the 19th >> on the 19th
>> I just think that the sooner you start discussing the budget the school next year the better off you are then you know what is coming down the line >> well the best practices If you read your blog, you would say that it said you're supposed to meet with them often during
the budget season and also supposed to be involved with knowing what's going on with the negotiation of the salaries with the leunians. We're supposed to be ongoing updated to that. So unless we want to repeat the wheel, I
think we should be forcing them to do best practices. At least >> at least ask them if they say and make them say no of record. >> Y >> because that reflects on us. Plus we don't have the information, >> you know, that we need to give to the
people. I realize the people don't really count, but >> No, they count for us. >> Yeah, we right. They count for us. We are a a board trying to you know trying to look out for the taxpayer. >> Yeah. Plus it's all our money.
>> There's Nelson still working on maybe on the 19th the paperworks we're looking for for outreach department budgets. >> That's what I thought. So um was but I'll I'll reach out. There wasn't a lot
in that email >> from just a preliminary 2027 >> on preliminary putting something on paper. >> I mean last I >> I'm sorry and then I just looked up and there will also be a pres presentation
from the vendor clear um for the budgeting software. >> I thought we already had it. We we had a grant um to try to implement it um and we never we never got past the data [clears throat] loaded phase.
>> So it's data loaded somewhere. >> So then >> well then things are changed to upgrade to the next >> version and get we probably didn't budget for that though. >> No, we we haven't budgeted for it. So I,
you know, it's it's kind of like it um um again it's kind of like >> when when we get the cost when you get the cost of the software, it's kind of like how does
that compare to coming up with somebody that really knows databases and and can do it and you're not paying. But what do we pay for training? >> Um >> I mean if they upgrade and then we get training. I mean isn't that >> Yeah. But and then you pay licenses
every year, >> right? >> Yeah. I get it. I understand that. But nobody >> they they did not come out to train. >> They didn't come out to train. >> They don't come out to train. They >> Well, that's probably a separate fee. >> Yeah. Everything is >> Yeah, but sometimes that's worth it. >> I mean, depending on the money anyway,
but depending on who Oh, so they can't do So why are we even talking to them? Do it. But FY 27 >> for FY 27, you probably don't have enough time.
I just as a >> as somebody that would consider doing a project. You you have to come up with a project plan. You have to come back with your data that you're going to load to validate what the results are. So you
have to have knowledge of where you where you were, what your results were, and what you're expecting when you put this data into the new program so that when you get outputs, you validate it against what you put in and say, "Yes,
that's good data." If you can't get to that point, you can't get past you trying to use it for the FY27. It's kind of so we're you know now >> we don't have the money anyway. Right.
It's kind of like so maybe they're going to try to get another grant to to get a vote, you know, if you can get a grant to get the software and get through the validate, you know, approving it getting it approved. But you know where's who's who's going to take the
lead to say you know what the steps are who's going to be the project manager basically for getting getting the data loaded getting through validation getting through the training and rolling it out. It's kind of like there's there is a whole set of steps that have to go
through um to say we can use it. You can't just take a spreadsheet Excel spreadsheet and say here load this this will be good data. It's kind of like you want to see how it was. >> So, nobody put the data in when we first got it. >> They they put it in, but when we tried
to pull it out, we couldn't we there was no validation back to what it you you couldn't validate it against any. >> So, so you're saying we have to start all over the brand new program. >> I you we have to start with new data. I'd say it's kind of like new sets of
data. >> I think it was FY23 or 22 follow 22. We have to go back and put data in >> it. It's not going to happen with what we do. We have anything now. >> Well, we again it's kind of like we we
should have >> We don't I guess you have to start somewhere. But >> we we have to start somewhere. We have to make sure we have the data and and pull it together. What what are your revenues? What are you going to load in for revenues? What are you going to um what do you have for expenses? And
>> so I get that part is but again some of some of those things and maybe some of it was we didn't take into account the um reserve fund transfers and um the municipal transfers at the end of the year. It's kind of like [clears throat] so in order to get that you have to be
able to say this is the picture of what we have. Does your software tell us that same picture when we ask outputs of it? So, how do we decide what we need? If we need it, how badly
we need it, what's it for? I mean, >> just because somebody says, "I want to get it does not mean it's the most important thing for us." >> So, will this presentation answer those questions or is it just going to be a sales pitch? They have to >> Well, no, it's going to be both.
>> Right. This is what Yeah, they'll they'll This is what the software can do. So if we didn't have this, how does it get done now? >> Yeah, that's the question. Will this give us a >> on the bus on that on the bus spreadsheet? >> Yeah, it's pretty pretty much the on the
bus spreadsheet, you know, spreadsheets and then bring in >> and you can't export like the information from the SP into the program. >> I would think you should be able to do data transfers. It's kind of like it's a
database thing for me. You know, it's kind of like Excel is a database. [clears throat] It's a field in and take this piece of information and plug it in here. >> You know, if that's what it is and then if we can that will help us project out five years, then it's a good thing
>> because right now what do we have? >> Well, and and those those are the pieces to be honest with you. It's kind of like I can do it again and I will. >> Yeah, I know. >> It's kind of like because you we have contracts. We have individual contracts and we have um contracts for police,
fire and and all the other unions. So each of them could be a different rate. >> It's kind of like so you can't just generally say every salary line goes up by x%. >> You have to >> and that's you know what other towns do.
>> Some of them are using clear some of them are using there are other products other than clear but there's about six other products. So maybe this is the first presentation vendor. >> Um
>> yeah, the six was just a number that >> Yeah, it would be nice to see other then we can make it >> see which one is simple. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Easiest in >> and manipulate it. >> Yeah. Semlex
more. You >> shouldn't probably get a very complex one if they're talented. No. And and that's the thing, but then we also have to see what they cost, right? >> Yeah. The cost. >> Yeah. We should get cost >> because who will be putting the information in this? Isn't it all the department heads when they do their
budget control? Yeah. >> Is that block of it and then >> Right. And then the department heads will be responsible just like they are for filling out the spreadsheet. This replaces the spreadsheet. >> Oh, okay. So then
>> um so that >> they don't do the data entry. They just put the pencil on the paper >> there. There is the interface and the databases behind the scene. That's what they they sell you that and then the licenses to use it. It it has so not
only just departmental budgeting, it has the capital planning. So if you're going to do capital planning on top of it, then you're going to pay for an additional set of licenses for people to do the capital planning piece. >> It's kind of like so there it it's like any other soft you go into Microsoft
it's kind of like there's Word, there's Access, there's Excel, there's Word and there's a separate license for each one of them and then the more you do the more you pay. >> So the same >> we should listen to the presentation see what includes and how much it is. >> Yeah. >> Right. Yep.
>> That's happening. That's happening next week as well. It's happening on the 19th. >> Okay. >> Yeah, >> that might be interesting. >> But you won't be there. >> I won't be there, but maybe I can zoom. I don't know. It depends. >> You can you should I would think you're able to show.
>> Although the meeting notice [clears throat] that that we that you got I think had a zoom. >> Oh, did it? >> No problem. Oh, for the school. for the school on the 20th. >> No, for the for the 19th.
>> Um, >> that's here though. >> Oh, no. That's December 2nd. That's December second. >> I hope it's in person. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Because you can um >> December 2nd is >> with the boarding tax.
>> Right now there's not um Board of Appeals is the only thing on for next Wednesday. >> There we go. Information for the November 19th joint meeting. Here's the email. So, the the joint meeting on the 19th
purpose of the meeting is to present some preliminary FY27 financial data data. >> Um, the CBiz, the assessor and the treasur collector will be there to present some information. Doesn't have to be a full-blown joint
meeting. If you just want to send a few members. >> Yeah. >> Blah blah blah. >> Yeah. I thought everybody would. There's many. >> It's better to post. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, he does not have this is not a formal meeting notice. So, he does not
have a link here. >> There's no link yet. >> But I got to think I got to think this is a select board meeting. So, they're going to have to post a link, right? >> Yeah. So, I'll reach out to Sabrina and see if we Okay. get posted.
>> What's that? >> Okay. >> FY26 budget. I thought it was done. >> Um, it was and I I you know that that piece is I I didn't get our questions to Nelson. So that >> So we'll put that So we make a motion to
move that to next month >> or next meeting. >> Yep. Next finance committee meeting. So I make a motion that we move the review of the FY26 budget with the questions. >> Yep. >> Originally posed >> to our next meeting,
>> right? Not the not the 19th. >> Not the 19th, but the one after that >> our just the >> Oh, yeah. Just the final. >> Is that going to be like the 25th? >> Um, no. >> The 25th. >> I want to do it on the week of Thanksgiving. >> Yeah, usually. Usually I I
>> You do or you don't? I personally I I don't because usually I want to travel. >> So we're going to um not have the second meeting in November then and then have >> have one in December. >> Yeah. Yep.
>> Okay. So it would be like December 10th or something like that. >> December. >> What day we having the next meeting? >> December 10th. >> December the third. Well, this was just a defer the motion though. We're talking just defer. We're not doesn't include a meeting date. Just
deferring the discussion of the budget to the next meeting, >> right? So to be announced, >> right? So we should just >> Yeah, but the next is >> Yeah. The be following it is
>> so let's dispose of this motion or not dispose but but follow through and finish up. >> Yeah, >> I'll second the motion. Okay. Indeed. Thank you. >> So we the motions. >> So it's going to defer discussion on the FY 26 budget
>> that we have. Yeah. >> With the questions that we with the questions >> to the next >> originally posed. >> Yeah. >> To the next >> to the next meeting. >> So their next meeting TBD, >> right? >> Okay. >> Right. >> The selectman's next meeting after the
one we have is December the 2nd. All right. Let's move let's move over. >> Um do we have the second >> any further discussion? We're just moving this to our to be an agenda item on the next finance committee meeting
where it is. So um all in favor. >> All opposed. It's unanimous. Cool. Moving it to the next >> meeting. Now, next meeting we >> now go. >> Yeah, we have the 19th.
>> Yeah, the 19th there's a meeting and it's a joint with select voice. After that, >> were we supposed to meet with them on Tuesday the 2nd? >> Were they going to have their question? >> They have no Tuesday the 2nd. >> They've announced they've Yeah. that
they're having a tax levy meeting. Okay. That that they've that they've hosted. It's a public meeting. So they're not going to talk about questions at all. Okay. >> Right. >> No, that's out for me. >> Yeah, that's the public meeting for the club. >> All right. So we have you have the third
the 10th >> um if we go to a Wednesday, which is okay. It's kind of like >> um >> you want to do the third. >> Is everybody good with the third? >> Yep. >> Do Wednesday. >> I can probably do that.
Isn't the selectment meeting on the third? They're doing some Wednesday meetings. >> Are they doing Wednesdays? >> I haven't Are they doing Wednesday meeting? >> They they had a couple of meetings that they were going to do on Wednesdays. >> But I don't know how many >> how much?
>> Well, they have a they had one on the door on the 19th. >> Yeah. The only thing showing on that on the calendar is Friends of the Towns and Seniors on the third right now. >> What? But that >> they're friends of the towns and seniors. That's the only thing on the calendar. That's all I have reference
to. >> So when are they having the meeting of the enemies of town and seniors? >> Enemies. >> All right. That joke too long. >> I'll do that one. [clears throat and laughter] >> So we're going to figure out the next
meeting. >> So I guess I can do the What did we say? The third >> third is the Wednesday. >> Third and >> third and the 10th >> or the 10th. >> 10th. >> The third is the first Wednesday. >> Wednesday 10th is the second.
>> I can do either one. I think >> I can do either one. >> Yeah. Doesn't matter me. >> I'm available. I think >> Jake then I guess we'll go for the third. Um I mean,
>> if we if we >> Can we do it at 6 though because I like it earlier. >> We did today at 6. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Is that all right with you, D? >> Yeah. Yeah. Six is fine. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. We can have it at 7. I'll see you next
time. >> Should we get it remote in Florida? >> Let's go to Florida. Forgive her. >> We don't have money in the budget for the flight. Oh yeah, we do it down place. >> I don't know. Last I heard it was snowing down >> in the Carolina.
>> It was snowing in town this morning. It was snow white and a flake here and a flake there. >> Snow. It was >> It doesn't make it snow. >> Okay. It was snowflaking. >> Yeah. Yeah, it was snowflaking, but nothing was sticking. Just like
yesterday hit the ground. >> So, what day are we doing this now? >> Okay. So we're going to do December 3rd 6 p.m. >> December >> and then give opportunity and time to talk to.
>> So I think we need to include the >> trying to get more data from the board of health on the on the um >> on the revolving fund activity. >> Yep. both payments and income and payments, right? We want tenant reports
for >> as [clears throat] many of the months as many of the months as we can get them. >> Or maybe I'll I'll look at their schedules. Do we want to have a joint with them for >> Oh, that might be a nice idea. >> Join with who? What do you want? >> Health.
>> They ask you a question about the funding of, you know, coming in from the citizens through the dump over there, whatever they call that place. >> Yep. Recycle center. >> I think that's on its own revolving fund, right? >> It It's a revolving fund versus an
enterprise fund. >> The >> All right. This one's an enterprise fund. A little different than a revolving fund. >> Two words for the same thing. It it it seems like the same thing. Yeah. Um
um I will do that and see. Um and if it's not everybody, do we want to have a small subgroup meet? You know, just have a working working group to meet. >> Okay. >> I mean, we could if that's one of, you know, that's like we could make that the
first agenda item on on our meeting and then and that way if they can come in for that and then they don't have to stay if they don't want to >> even do remote. Yeah. >> And can I ask that we start looking at the best practices that was given at your seminar, Carol?
>> Good on you. >> And I have to be excused. Is that okay? >> Are we joining soon? I think I got to be at the same time. >> Thank you. >> We still have a Thank you. >> Happy New Year. No,
>> thank you. What time is it? >> Um 23. [clears throat] >> Yeah, >> we're almost to the end of we are almost to the end. That's >> number three. >> Okay. >> Yep. >> We're almost
>> Yep. Um, so we have that and then we'll work with board health best practices and did I send an email with a information to a link with the DLS best practices and things? >> You did. >> Okay. So that can be part of the
conversation. >> When did he do it? >> I I wonder if I'm using wrong. I tried to do today to use both. >> You did. I think you did both of mine. >> I I tried to because I said >> Was it today that you sent it? No, >> it was like either a couple of days ago. Okay.
>> So, I'll forwarded the >> original class >> last Friday, I think. >> I uh >> last Friday. >> I will go through the past emails. >> I don't know who you sent it to, but you sent it last Friday. I know that >> and I might have deleted that email. But
before I get there, I'll ask you specifically. The book is lost. Yeah, >> please send a PDF and I will get that into doublesided >> my town. I just pulled it up so that I got it to look at and you know paper
book is hard to find. The electronic book is impossible to find. Yeah, >> what did I call it? >> But he did he did send it. >> Okay. >> Yeah, they sent it Friday. >> You want to call me Gabby? >> I want a copy. >> I will send it again. >> You said you printed the whole thing.
>> Okay, that's fine. So I >> it's kind of >> so I could read it and make >> and make notes and understood it's kind of like um >> I glanced through it but I didn't like the read.
>> No I I'm on a if anybody else wants to get DLS things automatically will make sure you get set up for it. I just get I'm on a feed from the >> from 100 years ago and I delete everything except occasionally I see a headline that says yeah I would like to
read an article there and I get at least one article out of it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But I'm I didn't want to go down if there even look to see if there was a discontinued button at the bottom. Yeah. I like the fact of being able to delete and not having it there at all.
We With that set up, I just wait till and then we will entertain. I mean, if all we're going to do is adjourn, we suppose we could do it with our not >> I think so. Right. There's nothing else
is rather than have recording. Hang on. Wait for >> I do have a question about this one for additions. >> Yeah. >> How can you add anything if you haven't published it six years in advance or whatever the rules are?
>> Um if if there was say an email that was urgent that we had to address. Okay. Um it it's similar to the emergency meeting rules. Uh because generally you have to post two days in advance for open meeting. >> Uh but like what we did last year with
the budget, we were we had a meeting the night before. >> Um and the town meeting was the next day and we wanted to meet in the morning that fell into the emergency. We had a duty to finish, right? >> Um so we had to call >> not within that open meeting while
>> something that's extremely time sensitive. There's a there's a way around that, >> right? There is so it's not for just bringing up oh I thought of this today. >> Exactly. >> It's not for that. >> It's an email came in. It's something >> right. Thank you.
>> Okay. Kathy is back and we have copies. Um entertain the motion to adjurnn at 7:27. >> Second. >> Okay. All in favor? I >> opposed.
I am 7:27