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Okay. I'd like to call the meeting of the historic district commission to order. I can't. >> Why? >> Because we're scheduled for 3:00. It is 3:00. >> My phone says 258, but I could be wrong. No, you're wrong. 303. >> Yeah, I'm stuck.

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>> I apologize. Okay, let's get this meeting open, please. I'm going to call the meeting to order at 303 on um April 24th. Can I please have a roll call here? >> James present. >> Mary Jane Churchill present. I do have a

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quorum. I'm missing Susan Girkin, Cla Cowie, Maria Milikin, and Kathy Spark. Somebody's online. >> Oh. Oh. Can you tell me who you are? Are you a Lions? Can you hear me?

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>> Um, yes, I can hear you. I'm Jaya Baldwin. I'm with Yankee Restorations. We had applied for the >> I know who you are. Okay. >> Okay. >> Hi. How are you? Welcome. >> Thank you. >> All right. The first thing I'm going to do is I'm going to open up the public hearing

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for Tiffany. Do you want to come up to the table? Just I don't You've already interrogated you. >> That's okay. >> It's all right. Okay, we're fine. >> So, you can take a seat. Okay. Official.

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>> Official. Yeah. I'd like to open up the public meeting for a hearing on the application to demolish 401 main. I have to wait 15 minutes for the people to come in.

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>> They get 15-minute wait. You have somebody two people. Correct. Your bowls butters. Oh, no. You're not Kelsey, but you are. >> Yeah. Yeah. And I won't have to stay. I know what's going on. I guess >> you do. You just want to hear what's going on. Do you have any? >> No, I was just concerned about the burnt

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out house cuz it's close to me. >> Okay. Have you seen me yet? >> I'm at 408. >> Okay. >> All right. Don't cross your line. >> It sounds like they're going to tear it down. >> They are. >> Oh, I know who you are.

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>> Thank you. >> You're welcome. Thank you. >> Yep. That's it. That's all you wanted to know. >> She just wanted to know. >> Sue is my neighbor and I haven't seen her. So, I would have just asked Sue and then I would have known it all. >> Oh, okay. Thank you for coming.

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>> Okay. So, um we had one I had sent out um waiverss to Susan Girkin >> 403 407 which is Russ Moore. He did respond and says he w >> Susan Girkin is in the brother. Okay.

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>> Yeah. just >> I don't know. >> So would she end up she would have to abstain. >> She would have to recuse herself anyway. >> Recuse but still >> she sent in note. >> She did not send anything in.

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>> The only one I received was from Russ who was at with us. >> But >> have we seen Sue? I feel like she would be on top of that. >> I have seen her. But did does this >> ender going forward?

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>> No, absolutely not. >> Then we're fine. >> Yep. Um I sent one to Paul Rogerio at 410. I sent one to obviously the Jose at 408. To Patrick Moley at 406, to the Fairbanks at 402. >> Fair

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>> and Annie Adams at 398. Didn't hear from anybody except Russ Moore and Mrs. Joseph. So >> I still have to wait or do I have >> So you have a few minutes to wait. Why don't we get the minutes out of the way? Why don't we approve those?

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>> That'll only take a minute. >> Let's do that. >> All right. I have copies. >> You have a copy of them right in front of you on Lori. >> You must have Yeah, she does. I gave her a copy right underneath. >> Oh, >> so your minutes are right there under

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there. >> Yes. March 12th. >> We're going to do March 12th and then we're going to do April 9th and then we'll be caught up. >> Well, then I don't have to worry about the limit. >> So on March we discussed

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>> March was a big discussion on fees but >> I really wanted but at the end of the meeting everything was we voted on it and >> correct. So, we had a quorum. Um, we accepted the February minutes. Guess

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I was on time for that. The discussion was had on the HDC regulations for the certificate of appropriateness prior to commencing a work. We talked about that kind of as a like a tutorial so everybody's up to date on how that works. Then, Laura Shiffren made a

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motion second by Cla Cowi to accept the following fine schedule. First offense is going to be a warning with a letter demanding a 30-day submission of an application. This is if you failed to submit an application. So, you're good.

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If the application is not submitted within 30 days of receiving the warning letter, a 150 PDM fine will be imposed for 3 months. The end of 3 months, they don't have anything. They haven't gotten back to us. It will go to judicial

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judgment. as long as we have gotten and received correspondence back from them or not. >> So if we receive declare if we have not >> correct got correspond agenda correct for each meeting.

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>> Gotcha. >> So we're up to date. Now if they come then it's going to be a whole different ball game. We'll talk to them. We'll get it straightened up. The second offense type of offense is the failure to comply after the certificate has been issued.

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So think of an order of so upon discovery because we're not going to know this unless we drive around town by the way, which is okay. So once we find out, we can issue a letter 30 days to fix what they've done wrong.

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Again, if they don't comply, it's a $150 a day fine for 3 months and then it goes to judicial judgment. So, in other words, we're looking at if somebody's deviated from what is expected as far as window or door

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styles, whatever falls in front of the commission about the facade deviating, that's that's when we will intercede and move forward on it. >> Correct. In other words, if they have not done as submitted in designed in in

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>> what was it? >> Whenever they posted. So we >> correct. I got you. >> We just put down what we they gave us and then >> we sit if we find it. Now the the the tricky thing is we're not going to find these things the next day because it takes a while for them.

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>> That's why you know somebody and we have somebody in the hub or we have somebody in the in the center. We can all >> keep our eyes >> a little bit correct. >> I'm not seeing where you said and maybe it's me and I can't see. No, no, no.

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>> You you mentioned second offense. >> Well, we we talked about that for last time because >> it's not in here. >> No, no, no. That there is not a Well, we decided that those would be the fees because the second offense, we didn't really talk about the second offense.

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>> You mentioned it. That's why I was looking. Yeah, we we um we didn't talk about it because we we kind of ironed this out with the first offense >> and then we said we were going to go right to the $150 a day instead of waiting another 30 days and and keeping

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it going. >> So, are you going to go with first are you going to go with first violation or warning and then first offense that you're doing? Okay. >> Yep. The warning. Everybody will get the warning, >> right? Okay. >> Everybody will be treated equal. >> Okay. Perfect. That's that's a path of

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least resistance with this. >> Okay. >> And hopefully we won't have to use it. >> Hopefully the vote, right? >> So Oh, sorry. And then was Oh, Laura, you made a motion to accept it. Claire seconded.

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And Oh, I forgot to put that it passed. It was unanimous. Oh, >> I forgot to put it down. Oh my goodness. We have to amend the minutes. voted to accept. >> I forgot to put that. >> Oh, well that was to adjourn the

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meeting. >> The meeting I don't have any unanimous vote. >> That that motion was to adjourn the meeting. >> Correct. 403. So, I'll make a motion to amend the minutes of March 12th to reflect the motion made, seconded, and

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voted unanimously >> regarding the fines. >> Okay. >> Is that >> um second? >> Okay. Can I have a vote? Roll call. Your mig is yes. Yes.

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>> James. Yes. >> Churchville. Yes. Yes. >> Okay. Good. This is a short one. April 9th meeting was called to order at 3:00. We had Jar. You were here for this one. I was. I just got home. >> Yeah. Laura was here. James was here.

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Kathy was here. And Maria Oh, I put a L on her name. Please crack that out. The typo. See the L. Corin was present. Susan was absent. Motion was made again by Laura Shiffren and seconded by Claire Kelby to accept

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the minutes for February 12th approved by unanimous vote. Then we had the discussion on the public hearing for today for the demolition of 401 vote again

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and then Maria present. Well, both minutes say except the minutes of February 12th. >> March 12th. >> March says February 12th and then April. I I think you meant

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>> put the wrong date. >> I think you meant the March 12th. It's March 12th on the April, right? >> Yeah. >> No, because we're just doing March 12th. No, >> this is it. >> Yeah, you're right. So wasn't

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>> we must have tabled. No, we had a public hearing in the middle. >> Okay. Because I can't remember who was a public hearing when >> were there minutes of that public? >> I gave it to them last time and we approved them.

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>> Yeah. The UPS sign. >> Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. >> That was in the middle. >> So we had a February 12th. We had a February 26th. We had a March 12th. Oh, February 26th. I saw that somewhere. >> Yeah, that was a public hearing on UPS

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>> on the signage. >> Correct. >> You didn't make a decision on you. We hadn't gotten down to us about it. >> Meaning the owner has not >> communicated to you, Azos.

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>> So, we can move ahead from that. >> So, you approve? No, no, no, no, no. Have to look at the readings again. Okay, then let's not deal with this right now. Then let's get on public.

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>> Um, can I have a motion to table meeting? >> April 9th. Minutes until next meeting. >> A motion to table the minutes from what? April 9th. >> April 9th. Right. >> Till the end of >> to the next meeting. Index meeting.