delay sorry very good thank you Laura all right okay so please check Julia St mary everybody's got
coffee okay so um are there any additions or deletions i don't think Well I don't know if it comes under addition what is that well it's Einstein no really no we're gonna talk about that
oh we are okay um building commissioner Robert Garc is briefing us on his visit to the brick store okay mr garc please oh good hi Claire hi we called the meeting to
order i just included you as a present and we're starting our meeting with Bob Garside who's the building commissioner he's going to speak to us about his visit to the brick store oh okay okay so the brick store actually I did not visit him i called him okay but I
did drive by twice he has four signs out there that will you know beer like 2x3 beer slash cigarette signs um he's only allowed two in the historical district of I think the 10 square feet each uh I
called him i went in actually I did go in i'm sorry i did i talked to I think it's his son um he did call me the next day i told him that he was only allowed two of the four signs i went by that afternoon and the two two of them went down so he has he's down to two signs it
was good yeah he's good right now i mean he has two white blank things is it going to come back yeah i mean is he got Yeah six months he's going to put two more up but no he understood he had two okay and I went by that afternoon they were both down immediately so was there anything
on the porch when you went by no i think he had one of those temporary swing signs that's it so in the windows it doesn't count right the signs in the window no they count they count no those are the two you're talking about right
those are that's what I saw is they had two and I think he had an open sign but he had two six square foot signs that's it so So So we just keep our eye on is that that's it i mean and I think one of them is covering a broken pane on the door so yeah one of them's on the
door so he removed that one so it's a sign the doors removed he has a sign and then the next bay is removed it just I don't foresee a problem with him i think he understands where he is okay and he understands that he can he can only do so much you know what I No I get it i do
get it but as long as we stay on these things at least for the the residents to see that we're not lacking no I agree i agree i want to thank you for going out and handling that for us thank you no problem anytime um Jerry do you want to bring up your sign well
well the historic district has been very faithful to allowing people to put up signs two weeks before the events i believe that's the town rule and the
historic if it's a temporary sign I'm not sure what the town rules are but typically temporaries you're allowed a certain time before it and then you have to have it down almost immediately after that's how most zoning works do we is there a particular time that they are allowed out in the historic district
it's I believe two weeks before them which means the historical societ violation We went out yeah I know it he knows i'd like I know it okay you got a problem i know it
well I was going to ask him the same question to reinforce you uh reinforce my knowledge of the law my law because that needs to come down until
time like April 12th or something probably the seventh of the April at least get get us into April i mean this is only March that thing's not going to happen weeks historical society of which we have the president saying right here
i know it just you know what those are the ones no I'm I'm going to tell you what my my two senses my two cents is if it's a town organization or if it's like a school organization or a school play
let it go i let I that's my personal opinion i let those kind of role for the town for the for the town and for the schools and you know they having a play and they want to put a play and hey you know what it's a community event i just wanted to like like the the dinner at the churches or something it's a
community event if it's Jimmy's roofing you're out of here okay you know that's how I usually look at it somebody's painting you're out it's a community event so what would you say would be reasonable for a community event would two weeks be reasonable i think Well I mean I think two weeks before but it
depends you know I mean if it's like a town meeting but I mean how when is this event april 19th yeah put it down kick it down April 1 let's Let's at least get to April i agree with you let's get to April there's no need to have it up in
March 10th right there's none okay thank you are you technically a commissioner or are you the building inspect i am technically the building commissioner i have a license that says I'm a building commissioner okay i just want to ask transparency i'll see all right i mean
yeah if you need me to help take it down but like I said that's my rule of thumb if you guys want to change it that's fine i just it's like there's kids who haven't plays and there's Boy Scout events in May right thank you all right thank you thanks thank you but we did hold our event to
the correct time we did yes other members so do you consider yourself noticed or should I send I shall consider myself noticed thank you however would you like to uh notify them i will proper authorities yes I will to remove it i
I'm confused what did I lose here what is she notifying you of she's going to notify the person who put the sign up that it has to be removed until the time being what now what sign is this for the historical society when actually no I
don't know how the historical society I don't know how they get in on that this is the members of the trail right the trail march right on April 19th yeah so it's actually a town event yeah it is
yeah it is all right I'll send him a letter i'll be nice yeah April 1st april 1 you can put it back if we're going to do this we have to abide by our own rubbish but
right i agree we're going to do this we need to abide by our own i don't you know I see what he's saying and I kind of agree with the but it's going to give everybody else give everybody else who who is in charge of that one who's
John Barrett knows right yeah well I'll send one to John Antel just cover everybody in the world all right so the next do I need to say anymore okay so the next item is an application I sent everybody to get it because it's very long and I didn't print it but I
will print it if you want it what is it it's the application for Elizabeth Donison and Daryl Heritz at 452 Main Street and their issue is that they want they have a 60 amp electric service right now and they have to um push it up
to a bigger one and they really want their current meter i have a photograph right now it's on the front of their house you sent them all to you sent it to everybody right yes so it's right It's right at the door front at the door
and they want to move it to the side of the house so they're having a bit of an issue with Unatel but yeah Uncle came to us to see to give an
opinion you know our opinion on because they're not grandfathered with this because they're moving it the short district doesn't have grandfather clauses once you if you've done something and it's not in the right place and you want to renovate or move
it you don't get to put it back where it was am I correct on this you have to go where it's supposed to be so it's it's as if we don't have a grandfather clause if you will so this is on the front unatell is saying that that's where it's got to be because
that's where it is they're saying "No we want to move it to the side and they're willing to pay for it." So it's hard if they're trying to But also what was the thing about the danger to the workers it's Yes dangerous to the owner it's dangerous to the electrician and um
because they have to go through the roof and they really can't do it because they have to put metal underneath the porch so they have to tear the porch apart but that's on them it is on them but it's on the Unatil i've never seen Unatil do it if you go up Elm Street every single one
of ours is on the right hand side and it's not in the driveway side but it's not in the historic district no but even if you go he they got they have great pictures there of the two build next door neighbors which is on the right side and then also they just redid the
fire station down the center where is that that's behind down the harbor that's behind the building you got a picture of that yeah yeah yeah so I mean if allows that places if Unatil allows that which is a recent one then why are
they they want him to pave the driveway beside it there is space there and it's like a a saw that I saw that wants the owner to pave them i'm missing a lot of this yeah he wants the owner to pave it why because it's not safe for the people to put a a thing on their thing that's
right well they have to put they have to put the from the pole the new pole to the house so and they have to use well they have to use they explain that they have to use um one of those things that the sky thing that they boom yeah they have to use the boom and it's not it's
not um safe for their people but there's certainly enough room for them to do that in there for unit unil our problem I mean he they've got to sort it out with unatil before they come to us and he brought his own electrician in to go through the
basement oh yeah and if you look at I don't know have seen this this is on the thing but this is this is what the electrician said and it's and it's I read that's their electrician right but and he's I
think he's very appropriate but this is still something we can't do yeah but we can say that their application is we can give them a certificate of applicability for their request to move it from the front of the house to the side and then after that then they
have you know yeah let them fight that battle but as far as we're concerned I would prefer as visually that they put it on the side to conform oh I would too for safety reasons too i mean you're really No I mean because of the porch and everything and what they set with
the electrician set well I my house is all the way on the left and no one near my driveway most of them are not near the drive mine's not near the driveway either they have to actually get out of the car i come to my go upstairs they started they come off the street and they walk on the
side of my yard to the side of my house they're not on my driveway there you go so is just being really technical for some reason i don't know why because they probably don't want it cuz it's going to cost money god they haven't seen it's going to cost them money anyways to do it because they still have
to go through the porch to do to upgrade it i think the people and then it'll be historically then it will not be historically correct what do you mean because the porch Yeah because the porch well because if the cover of the porch covers it but if they move the thing they have to move it they wanted to move
it to the back side of the house so then it's not going to be historically correct because they have to take it off the front porch anyway wait a minute they're going to have to change it anyway that's what that's what Unatella is suggested their suggestion we're not going to go with you suggestion i know
but I mean that's what I'm saying they still have to they'd still have to have a permit to come in and do it even if they put it on that side they they're agreeing to moving it in the back side on on the driveway side they're agreeing to that no unit they
want it on the drive side so they don't so they don't have to step on the grass but from the road to the back of the house is twice the distance that's right they wanted it on on the on the norththeast side of the house to move it
wait a minute no mine's on mine's on my west mine's on my side i have no idea i have no idea where would that be on the back side of the house and And what the orders are saying in that case is that their shingles their um shutters are off right now being restored so that would
interfere with them putting it back on the house again and then again it would be not historical well they've got to put them back the way they took them off that's right so that's part of the issue they're having you tell the back of the house
i don't have my pictures with me if I have the pictures right here if you don't see it from the back if you can't Well if you can't see it from anywhere correct Claire can't see it from the road from the road they wanted to be put back here on this back side of the house
because the the because of the porches I guess they being the client being unitive the clients want it on this side of the house which is here and they want it they want it um down
lower you can see where they want it lower which is where mine is mine's almost just above the ground oh so much lower yeah mine yeah so it doesn't interfere with the the shutters that they put on yeah yeah right with anything and you want to tell us about this is the one the fire station which is in the back mhm okay and this is the
one on the old used to be yeah I'm not sure why they use that but I have to do the work anyways one way or the other i mean I don't understand this one this one you can't even see it it's hidden behind so what we can say is that we
approved it a certificate of applicability can be approved for the client's request to put the meter on the what the north side did you say no the west side the west
side we'll give them permission to do that i mean we'll make a motion and we'll go through the but I mean it's not like we can fight the battle further anymore you can say that it's applicable to have it on the side but that's pretty much as far as we can go with the you
argument yeah I read it i I I did yeah thanks Julia um I don't think we're we're overstepping anything but I don't think we by discussing it and taking a Yeah so if we approve where they're going to place it placement only that's all we're
dealing with we're not dealing with then then unitil has either and they already um said that they would move it off of the porch because that's why I said they wanted to move it to the east northeast side right um I don't know but the the neighbors
door is on the right side exactly where they want to place it so I I don't know what unitels and they don't have a driveway on the on any other building if you look at the other building the one you recommend so I don't know you're Right but I think they have to they'll have to fight this
out with municipal but if you want to give them permission for a certificate of of to move it from the front you know when they come to read that they don't even get out of their car they have a little thing now that I don't know that they even slow down and now because I've
never seen anybody come through my yard and now they now they're changing the meters so you can get gas meters don't let people oh I got a I got a notice of my electric meter they're changing electric meters to make them more digitally uh responded well we just had
our gas meter at the re house change just last week yeah and they just gas we didn't get any notice from electric well I'm not for electric i just had my water i don't I guess it's like change
everything well because everything is going like digital okay okay so what we're doing now we're going to have a motion can I have a motion for Yes i'll make a motion to uh um approve the applicability certificate for Elizabeth
Donson Daryl Burwitz at 452 Main Street West Townsen second that any any discussion further i think we ought to be more specific and say that Any
um any action taken on the porch would be detrimental to it stability i don't know if we can say that i don't know if we can say that we're not any action taken on the porch no I think we should wait for that cla
in case they have to do something on the porch because they're not they're removing an obstacle of from the historic architecture i mean to replace it to put it back into its original
historic by taking this meter off this meter is dead center in the porch right i think if they want to do anything to the porch they would have to come back and ask us that's not their request correct correct that's right
are you thinking of damage or damage to the porch if you were to deal as they're away well there going to be some damage to the porch anyways because there's a conduit that goes up through the top of the porch so they know they're going to have to repair that but all right so I hear where you're coming from but that
is going to be removed right so all right so we're giving them permission to move the meter from front to side yeah should do you want them to come back when they have the plans for the movement and what they're going to do to the porch or is that not an issue
it might be necessary i don't think it's an issue either Mary Jane because like I said it probably wasn't there to begin with remember what Alicia said at the last meeting i wasn't here but I saw it on YouTube because I did the notes from it but um you know it's
it's structurally not part of the building correct it's something that can be removed yes right so therefore you know I don't think that is technically part of the colonial part of the building the actual structure of the
the meter it's not it's true so any damn any work that they would do they'd have to put back their change they can't change the And they're not going to they're probably just going to they're probably just going to repair where the meter comes out of the building yeah I assume because why would they go through
the whole two light condition the light to light condition right does that make sense yeah yeah I agree okay I agree so we're going to um wait what's the motion again now sorry to approve the motion was to approve the
applicability certificate for Elizabeth Beth and and yeah General Herwood or however you say it okay at 452 Main Street West Townson for their application
okay who second it thank you sharon have a vote your ship yes cly yes julia Stockley yes mary Jane Churchville yes accepted cool
okay all right you know what i forgot his minutes i'm sorry did everyone see i have the minutes for January and I just read February and you just read February okay so Julia I'm going to do the January minutes first okay i wish you would because I don't know what the
problem is with the January minutes i think I already read them yeah january 9 cla brought up a problem with um under old business I think or new business where I said something about I couldn't get it off the internet i couldn't get it on YouTube i couldn't
get it off YouTube you It was not clear claire said something about um under new business when apparently our attorney was here discussing the CPA that you questioned something
something about yeah you questioned something about the bylaws of the commission and I that's all I could get i don't know was it because we are a commission as well as a historic district commission oh oh that was in
January okay so that was about John Barrett no not John Barrett don't write you have them with you i have minutes i do i don't oh no i don't sign it yeah we have to sign that
um what happened was Bill Ryder wanted to create a separate bylaw an historical meeting or not society yeah and John and I said it's already together together and I showed him the
bylaw that was voted on back in the7s and Alicia also came on and she was here and she said absolutely the town voted for the combined the combined bylaw commission and John discussed it and he didn't think so he said it was a G that
he didn't think we voted for and Alicia said we voted for the entire bylaw and I I saw it you saw I went on and saw the law and voted for the entire corporation the entire bylaw which included the historic commission as well as the
historic district commission so what's clear what what did clear do i don't know so I don't know what clear doing that i have no idea okay then strike that just finish that sentence with Blair took a nap
no that that was the meeting I had to leave because Emma Jean was running out of breath oh but you did you did make a comment because I saw it on I saw it what she didn't mean it she didn't need it no she's out of oxygen it would break see I wasn't here so I had to rely on
YouTube to tell me and that's not always appropriate and sometimes I didn't hear what you had said so and I wasn't going to pro you know survise what you said because I did get I take what you said can I have a motion to accept the January meeting a minutes
as submitted why don't you make the motion clear yeah i make a motion to accept January's minutes january January 9th January 9th's minutes 2025 yes laura Shipper yes click yes
finally Julia Stark yes churchill yes accepted unanimously okay we can put them to bed now correct january keep going every file folder I have i can make a motion to approve the
Thursday February 13th 2025 minutes with just one spelling question okay well there's a couple of questions I have on okay well we can have discussion we have if we get a
second discussion let me get this down before I take it out i guess I have to go back on YouTube and that's horrible you know I have to go on because we discussed so many things all at one time i do that yeah you I think you have to i mean look at
the absolutely spelling error lauren this is about 214 in 2025 is it 13 february 13th thank you remember what it was now i just
What spelling what was the spelling do you remember oh Laura found it real term oh oh my spelling check wouldn't I had to go in and try I stopped it that way and I said no so I went in and it didn't it
brought it up like that so I said "Okay just change it." I know you can capitalize it and then maybe it will take it all right you know this whole list that they usually give me but then it gets crazy after what I'm Oh and I
think it's Alisa is it Alicia or Alisa just like my like your Alisa A L I S A on Stress how do you spell paragraph alisa is A L I S A oh I I always thought she spelled it CA
no no I think she's She's right i'm sure because I've always spelled it wrong then well I'm going to change it anyway so okay sounds good is she on a L no I can't tell l yes hello all right
a L I S A Lisa alicia sorry alisa Alisa oh okay so that's good part of the open meeting law webinars yesterday
was minutes should be done in a timely fashion and not longer than 30 days oh 30 days it's always been long has it yeah it's not always usually it's usually it's two weeks when we have the thing it used to be two weeks because
this newspapers are always coming in give me the minutes give me the minutes not done yet you're done yet but if we have a meeting every month we'd be in compliance once a month okay so just repeating because they they
emphasized it three times in the web when big issue but they don't they didn't think about people only once a month they don't think about a lot of things i know they don't all right so do we have a motion to Oh
we do have the motion correct seconded by Jerry Jerry okay so we'll take a vote yes laura Shep yes click the yes i know I should have discussed this in
in the situation but if you read if you read the minutes um Laura voted to for the um homeowner to table the vote i mean to table the motion there was no motion made except
if it was made if it was made in January 9th i meant to bring that up but that's no there was no motion but if you see it it says Laura any question um and that was on the video yes I didn't look at the video yes I did look at the video
lisa did you look at the video it wouldn't surprise me if I made the motion well you said on motion because I went back three or four times to look to see if there was a motion there was no motion unless you were referring to the motion made um 13 January 30th um I
don't know if you were Oh to Jake talk yes that's what we did we t We did we tabled that yeah but then she I don't know what she No that's she's okay i was going to say I just didn't realize she if you tabled it oh because the motion was back then because we needed to speak
because Claire had the issue on the the the street view of the roof i had to call the solar people and I and I got I did clarify that in there but I just didn't know what that because I didn't like I said I didn't see any motion ahead of time and we were discussing that in the
beginning so when you were discuss it was a continuation yeah okay we're good should it say that then i don't know no no cuz he said in minutes relative to that particular meeting so she
saying there was no motion made in February but it was for the motion table it was tabled from January okay do that i can put that in there if you prefer but we've already Do you want to amend the minutes then motion i think
it would be a good idea because then it clarifies if anyone else has a question let's amend the motion i'll I'll amend my statement in that motion that it was for a prior uh it was from the January 9th tabled
motion i think that would I think that's good because they would see it all right there and I apologize if I confusing well how do you think I fell confused
so we're gonna reference to the January 30th meeting all right so so we have to vote on the amended is that still a second by Jerry oh sure okay i'll I'll
accept the friendly amendment and then if the second accepts the friendly amendment we can vote on the main motion i'll accept the friendly amendment i I know I it just makes it so much more complicated okay okay that was making it
easier i'm sorry cuz the other one wasn't voted cuz the other one wasn't voted yet so that's why the emotion right do your thing whatever you say well I'm with you well the emotion the motion wasn't voted for that so I mean that's what I'm saying if you do All right well a motion was made yeah motion
was made but it wasn't voted completed and but we amended it before it got completed okay if I put it that way things better okay okay now vote now we can vote now we can vote
st jerome Ziggs yes lauren yes yes julia Stockley yes mary Churchville yes okay now now I have sent in I didn't get a copy of it a revised note um a revised notice and
agenda to bring up the annual report that was supposed to be submitted from January i need you to make the copy of this so I'm going to keep it you have you've got to sign it oh I didn't sign it yes you did okay i'll I'll give it back to you after I make the copy okay so um I sent
this I don't have anybody No the um revised Oh you got the revised one okay good the annual report perfect yes so um I want everyone to take a look at it and I want to put it
through the meeting for vote to accept it has anybody else read it well I want to read it i was going to say I didn't get it so I You didn't get it oh wait a minute i guess everybody was
on the email but not everybody's got it yeah maybe i printed it off when I got the agenda and I did get it and I did it last night because I had to leave early this morning so I had it sliding again this
morning no no no no no i I uh I have been in town hall most of the week so um late night last night meetings all day on Zoom for different parts of the town
and then this morning I had a day to go pick up somebody in a nursing home and walk to event oh and it was in Franklin so I didn't I think I wrote you that i didn't know how you didn't know if it worked out perfectly yeah you came back early
so I I did review it and if you guys all have it in front of you um we'll discuss you want to start I can since I read it
so I mean it it's a great report and you know it shows that you did a lot of things um I've underlined a couple of words if you will okay or opinions if
you will that personally I don't feel are professional and that I don't feel makes the commission the district um look good look good okay so you want
to point them out for everybody so we can Well paragraph i'm going to go with words okay okay that sounds good okay and in the word uh one two three four five the fifth line
where you have 2024 was a chaotic yep yep okay chaotic is like what are we telling the these people are reading the town the annual report so personally I don't want to put
out where we were in a mess chaotic could we use the word building how about challenging oh challenging challenging is great that's a good word okay yep um I do not like and would not expect that anyone's going to allow to be put
into um the annual meeting that personal agendas or pandering or posturing by certain selectmen prior to abandoning their office midterm refused to reappoint i
wouldn't even go there i disagree with you how would why would you put that inter because it's what happened and it's factual but it's it is and it's on Zoom yep is that because it's on Zoom let
them see i know you have a relationship there but I think that's very important because that was very much a a problem with this joint district commission it wasn't to our our choosing it was because of the select men at the time so men are not about the
law okay so do you I don't think anybody's above the law that's right but do you think that as a board you should be presenting this to the town as a picture people save their annual
reports sure some people collect them not and they don't live in town and they collect our reports why would you want somebody to read something so poor about the town because it's not about the town it's about the board of selectmen okay who
are not selectmen anymore and you're using selectmen you are not using names so you're calling that of all selectmen it said there's many selectmen that have been terrible it said by certain it's very she's very clear made it said by certain selectmen who prior to abandoning their office and term refused
to reappoint long-standing commissioners i don't think there's any problem with that that's very factual laura I know you're a i know that's a problem vote i would vote no okay um I would certainly Do you want me to remove that i don't think you should i don't
think you should i think that's very appropriate for that time you know what we went through with that i Okay i still would not put my dirty laundry out i don't think that's dirty laundry i do not think that's scary all right so we have a difference of opinion and that
and that's okay um I wouldn't use the word eventually select board member Terresa Morris if you want to um say select select board member Teresa Morris was able to site Massachusetts general law to prevent the
blocking of those appointments without I think you can give a gist of what happened without being derogatory and that's where I'm coming from if if if the board as a whole majority you feel that that's how you want your report to
be that's fine you can submit it to the selectman that doesn't mean it's going to be printed that way i can tell you that totally inappropriate all right let's talk about that why why you mean to tell me that this report will be censored by
this selectman i'm not I can't imagine that they're going to do this how can they Why what well you can talk to them about it i don't You know what on your way i know that but it goes through the town it goes through the town administrator all
the reports go to Sabrina right okay and if anything comes up that looks derogatory to the town it's going to be reviewed by the town administrator and the selectman if you would like to come and speak to the selectman regarding your report I'll find out if that can be
done do we have to make an appointment yeah we're meeting we're meeting Tuesday and um Tuesday and Wednesday next week but I was told before we had to make an appointment to be put on the agenda to be mistake okay which is what we did for this that's what we did with the
selection yes two times that was on the agenda okay and I spoke that day one of that was the second one i spoke that day so I don't think it's derogatory to the town i think it is a situation that happened that was not good and I don't
believe that we can override something that was not good in the town they're human beings they make mistakes you're right yeah but sometimes this was a mistake that shouldn't have been made but it did yeah because it was a personal that was the issue okay
personal personal be too to Chaz and and what it call I can't even say his name joe joe thank you it was personal to both of them well it wasn't had nothing to do with the ability of the person to do the job because it was personal
that's why so to eliminate that I feel it would really be an injustice to the town not to show that no comments anyone there's nothing positive about it there's nothing positive nothing positive will come from
those comments there's nothing really negative either Laura it is no it is not it's what happened it's what happened and the fact that this report is in the town yeah shows that the
HDC could come forward and continue yeah that's right thank you Laura clear but it's also on YouTube too so if if it's if it's got negative in the town report it's negative on YouTube and it
should have been edited in there you don't edit that do you no you don't okay that's my point i just don't think that the I think you issues have to be repetitive you don't have to repeat them every place you can well not repeat they're already out there they're not
They're already out there they're not being dissolved you ask for a town report and that's where that's where I was coming from the the report my Why does the report have to have ne I would never do a report that had negativity in it i don't think
it's negative i chose I do not see it as negative i saw I saw it as factual because it affected dramatically affected a lot of our well the decisions because they lost two people that had been long-standing members y and with a
history that we're not allowed to vote and it threw the rest of the commission into a tizzy because they didn't have the background for a lot of for some of the votes it it was a very chaotic challenging is a better word probably it's a more positive word but it it was
very chaotic for everyone and what it did to the town is it it never should have what hap it never should have happened that's right it never should have happened it happened because of agenda and it happened because of just what I put in here pandering and serving
and I think that people should We can leave out the pandering all right i'll take We can leave out the posturing i mean you used uh adjectives that are I'll take the adjectives out i agree they're subjective i I I I will but there were personal agendas there were
personal There were personal agendas and I won't take that out and I'm very very very concerned about the fact that we would be censored by the board of selectmen and not have it enter into the I've never seen that done before i don't know nobody has ever submitted a report
like this before how do you have me oh you're gonna make me go back to all the town meeting you think that there have been reports i used to do those reports you don't change anything that a person sends in for a report unless Have you made derogatory reports
before submitted i see i've seen them when I print it yes don't forget I worked for the selectment for three years and I did those reports yeah so yes you don't change what they put in for a report unless it's technically wrong okay and I've never run across
that we always preach it exactly what they give us never but why would we paint a picture that wasn't true why would you paint the picture at all why why are you why are you referencing because we're telling us what happened and it's telling what happened but the
reports are already on video why do you need to include a negative report well why have a tell report that's right oh yeah because the rest of your report's great but you can see all but see you're seeing it as negative that's your personal opinion but the rest of us are
not seeing it as negative situation i've not been on your She's also putting us on notice that we could vote for it but she's telling me that they have never edited it before that does that mean they won't well who knows what's going
to happen today look at what's happening to the world right now so you already submitted this i did but I had but uh Sabrina signed it back for me and asked me to remove the paragraph and that's why I'm bringing it here because I don't think I should remove so why did Sabrina
ask you paragraph so you guys have already discussed this no I said she said I needed she sent me way back in December that she needed the annual report before the end we discussed it at our last meeting that you were going to do it and
send it out well I did i did it and I sent it to her she sent it back to me and said to submit it in in in um a word format uh with a certain font and remove that paragraph who gave her permission
she can't she can't do that on her own she had to be told me it was a directed from anyone she it was from It had to be directed from somebody she couldn't do that on her own i don't know i have no idea how she came up with it cuz I didn't challenge you no I wanted to come here she's your clerk
she must have thought it was inappropriate she doesn't have It's not up to her to determine it's inappropriate well I'll look into it i mean I I agree with some of the word changes i don't have an issue with that but I definitely have an
issue if you if the selectman or even the town administrator changes the report that's given by the committee well one or two she's already sent you that and you need to So now the board is telling you and so you'll make changes
and hopefully they'll be acceptable well that's we don't know who you're the board oh yeah we're going to vote on accepting this or not correct everyone's everyone on that page that we're going to make a motion to accept it or not let
me finish reading that paragraph so we're going to take out pandering right posturing and pandas i love the way that sounds though um about personal how about Teresa Wley leave it in or leave it out oh you mean because no other people are
named oh yeah no I think that's important i don't mind you thanking her yeah saying something nice that happened i don't have problem with nice that happened okay i adjecting somebody where you you're not I like the principal
agendas okay i doesn't even But that was the truth i know it was I don't know what your proof is of that except for whatever actions were at your meetings but that's what they refused to let me talk in a meeting i had to go
back and get it on the agenda to be able to talk and I did and I don't think they liked what I said i even gave them I even gave them a letter of list of names and you know what he said to me he called me and actually sent me an email
he joked he sent me an email saying "I don't know how these got this list of names people were saying to me how did you get my name?" So I got it right out of town list of names the registered the the town a street website yeah i didn't give them
telephone numbers i told them they had to find those but yeah it was for support of the people that were they refused that they thought a few people had that told him they were not doing their job and one of them said he saw one YouTube meeting and he didn't think
a person was appropriate but that person is also on other me is in other committees and and meetings so so if they're not if that person wasn't appropriate for our particular situation why are they
appropriate for the other commissions they were on it really was personal you were not here at the time yeah I wasn't and I don't know the meeting you're talking about but I'm happy to look at it no and we were lied to yes we were by one of the Okay so I'm I'm happy to look
at that okay but anyways we know that you don't want to you don't want to include that one um again if you can clean it up and make it a little softer it's probably So I'm definitely going to move challenge i actually like that challenge challenging
i like personal agendas because that's really And I don't That's all right all right but that's okay you can take out uh eventually yeah I did i mean I will yeah and then in the next sentence again it's up to you but I
wouldn't do this um yeah cuz we're mentioning the district wishes to thank where are you chair i'm in the next paragraph where you start with the commission was disappointed i
crossed that out and I said to thank chair Eno and I'm sorry if I pronounce it last you want to take off sentence the commission was disappointed by the select board I think that could be left in there that was huge y that was huge
but I think it's inappropriate but you can I have I have a better feeling about thanking the previous chair for his commitment knowledge and long service to the commission I thought we were the restriction but are we supposed to say district and commission
district commission we're commission yeah we're commission of the district okay um I like that we can we can put that I like that in there that we thank him for his long service add that yeah I think that's great tell me how it should go oh you want the fact that they bumped
him out because of a personal agenda no no but you can put in So you weren't here so that's the problem i'm giving you my input my professional opinion and we're giving you our professional opinion give me the sentence we want I'm just as much a
professional right we all wish to thank or the commission wishes to however you want to do that okay the commission wishes Okay chair Eno can you pronounce your last name colby copy uh for his commitment knowledge and
long service to the commission as he will be sorely missed however you want to do that I think that is totally appropriate but how are you wording it i'm going to say the commission wishes to thank Eno
Coping for his commitment knowledge and long service which will be and then the only other thing I mean it wasn't nice to thank those people at the end doing things that you thought were
better than what other people had Um well it wasn't a contest it was the fact that the house next to John Forest I don't know what number it is 258 258 that was a mess and and that was
downtown and that was Townsen the reflection of Townsen and and I think that they absolutely deserved a call out i think that the people who purchased the wood farm which is a historical
icon of of towns right and and to pull it out of foreclosure and a complete disastrous mess because it was probably going to have to be thrown down in history i don't Yeah I didn't say that on the the only houses in the historic district 58 the other two are outside
the district the one is the wood farm which is on Worcester Road which I know what it is well they pulled it out of well it been sitting there forever and it was a mess they've done an amazing amount of work on it okay and the other house is on um Highland Street on
Highland Street but on the town of Main Street Bridge you know behind behind how the historic commission I'm trying to make a connection because we're also the historical commission we are both
historic district commission and the historical commission we are the combined commission of the two a district so Laura every house that's in the district that's been assigned the map but these two are not in district but
they're historical buildings okay so what's considered a historical building for my knowledge yes it was where the other two aren't mentioned in here i just turn that around i don't have Oh I don't have that
you don't have my signature you pull my signature at the very bottom no I I didn't I didn't copy that for some reason okay that's all right if you put it in there that's good signature I didn't sign it it's um Leah Elizabeth
Merrell yes and um so those are historic homes i didn't see the definition of historic home for towns and is well the state of Massachusetts identifies it as anything 50 years old okay I did get that sorry oh my god i
know Jerry um I just have a question no requests concerns or issues were brought to the attention of the historicals i I don't understand what that was oh where is it right after um the commission was disappointed by the slide board that
next paragraph what did after no after year two no requests concerns and issues were brought to the attention of the historical commission yeah I don't understand what that is did somebody question no the historical historical not the historic commission
district commission so in other words no one complained about a historical building outside the district and nobody brought any and nobody brought any issues to us at all nobody wants to be included in the historic district right who might be a
historic home there have been no actions no money to to help no one brought it up nothing okay all right it's like a silent has anybody come back when Lisa was I think when you were on the board prior people have asked to come in they talked about
um how did they get in right how Evans not Evans what's the stand gary's Wilkins stand in the field in front of Will right some people up there had made some
inquiries about whether or not that whole district will if you take Meeting House Hill Road from the bath where the church used to be and bring it all the way down to Main Street alisa are you still on that's I was going to ask her too because she did mention Yes alisa yes can you address
this issue of other people outside the district who have inquired as historical issues not just not just being in the historic district commission but just other historical issues
so that situation on the top of the hill somebody inquired as to how to have their home in a district
they wanted to be in a district so that would entail creating a new district so then their thought was that perhaps it could be called the feezan district
because remember talking about the house across the street those two houses blah blah blah anyway so I told them what was involved some weeks went by i I advised
them on on how the process would go that's what a historic commission would do not a district's commission anyway they came back and said no they don't want to do it because they thought it would um impede the sale of their
home it would be emergencies okay okay Alicia if I can this is Julia um if somebody comes along and says we want to make um a historic area which is not maybe in a in a district but a
historic area like say black rock or the old meeting house on the on the top of the hill of meeting house hill road or um the stone bridge in west towns that would be something that we would deal with as a historic commission am I correct has anybody ever done that with
you when you were on the board yeah the one I just explained to you yeah but that's a house that wanted to be put in the historic district to create a new district anything outside of the district that wants to
become in a district all right i'm not explaining myself which would would require establishing another district and let me I'm sorry to interrupt but I'm not saying to become another
district i'm saying just to designate a historic place like um the brick the uh sto bridge up in west towns as a historic place um have you read the state registry of historic places
no I haven't okay so a lot of places are listed in that state registry of historic places but they may not be in a district right to get that designation
is a long application process by the owner of a building property or place get approved by the state commission help with that yeah help no
it Oh why not but has to be approved by the state you can give them the application well you can help them and and show them how they've done how it's been done before that's what I'm saying though that's what I thought the commission was yeah well you know what we're going to need some we
need some education on this in terms of bringing stuff up um example my house is not in historic district but it's as old as Yeah that whole area of town should But doesn't that take a town vote yes
you created it with a town and people could exclude themselves yes they could She's right yeah so you can't just exclude yourself you have to exclude it at the time of the vote at the time of
the vote not the next year or so yeah at the town meeting yeah yeah because I know people who have done that in other towns they've attended the meeting and opted it out so I'm okay so I think it So that's just
for clarification so it is confusing i've got to figure out a way to get this information unconfused so no chair if you all read your historic districts commission handbook there's a clear definition between historic district commissioners
and historic commission commission isn't that what you kind of have up top yes i I tried to put that on Well I didn't try i I tried to I I made the definitions at the beginning so people could understand HTC and then there's a
historic go commission and that paragraph that you just talked about the no request that refers to the historic gold commission maybe put that line then if you want to keep it there put it directly under the definition okay I see
what you're saying as the first item then it doesn't seem like out of uh out of context if you put that right underneath y before towns and is a combined district just put that statement do you guys agree i don't I
don't know where you're doing that i'm sure she's taking it right here this sentence that Yeah you had just mentioned no request concerns and throw that bottom sentence to end the historical commission up top there's a
definition up top the second just there's a definition up top no no no just move she's gonna move or Well I kind of like it where it is there though too no it's going to stay there
that's up top is going to stay there but that sentence that explains the no request concerns or issues were brought to the attention of the historic historical commission goes right underneath the definition oh all
right okay oh I see they're tied together that makes sense yes okay otherwise it doesn't make sense at all yeah it's redundant okay that's a good suggestion yeah but it's good thank you until the HTC and then it goes into all the different um okay my other comment
was and I would put that um okay my other s I have two other suggestions one has to do with um 35 Fsburg Road okay maybe all three okay so after 258
Main Street Mhm put district district okay yeah yeah then after the other two put historic home okay got it
yep historical home yep okay okay now so now I'm lost again because that doesn't have the other two on that paragraph you don't have it you don't have but it's okay cuz yeah I just I have to put here she has so that means you don't have she
wants to put No she has so she wants me to put historic district lines y here because that's what it is and then she wants this to be historic why don't you instead of doing that why don't you just take it and say also under that paragraph is that well because I really
want this to be a shout out to okay thank you to the people who killed it's a baby there you know no that doesn't belong on the front heard multiple historic commission heard multiple requests for September oh yeah yeah yeah yeah to make improvements to
their historic um properties one of the most notable being the restoration of 258 other the other ones that are most notable maybe I should take out the 258 that bought it cuz he's already I already got
it uh 35 all right yeah at I'm not that sense yeah so um but the other two would not be applications that we took as historic district they didn't have to
come to us the wood farm didn't have to come to us for anything and neither did um Highland Street because they're not in the district but you can say that under that same paragraph though one of the most notable being the restoration but also under historic homes not in the
district okay that these two you can add those two but an excellent job in restoring their their buildings okay and then that next sentence can go on the next page in
total the goes on and then I go okay okay now if you're going to put on 258 Main Street if you're going to put historic district one I'm going to do that i think all of these have the
designations yeah they're going to They're not They're not talking about there so they broad all right a broad spoke yeah do you want me to put
it in right after the 258 Main Street District One HD are you putting them according to the dates um how did I do this i did it like 15 if you're not If you're not doing it according to the dates I would put under district one these are the following
applications under district two these are the following applications and the under I think I did take them in sequence so how they came oh all right that's how they came so I don't think I don't think it really matters if it because you don't have dates there that they say so if you do under district one these are the following applications
because I remember the cemetery you know that was the most recent where's um what house no that wasn't last year was the year before oh it was sorry Claire
oh that's too bad because of the B i know okay my other So you want me to add district add district you want to add districts to them or Yeah I'm going to instead of doing it by
or I'll do it so that's But you don't have dates there so nobody knows when they were actually done so so that's But now she has to go by and do it by district i know in sequence district under district one these were the applications under district two these
are the applications under district three these are the I mean it'll take me a minute to find them but I'll find them 44 but you have to do it anyway right Jane you have to do it anyway yeah to put it in and then that also means because you've now moved these up on the
other part you do not need that last those last three you don't need the last sentence in conclusion yeah Okay y and then you can just look ahead got it um and then under 80 Main Street Council
and Historical erroneously issued why you Well I have that there because it was issued as which one is that 89 80 80
the down bottom of the sheet okay because when I looked at that application it said that it was ex I don't know if it was accepted but it said that we didn't we didn't we didn't have purview over that but we do have
purview over any se um structure that's put in the historic district so it was not appropriately issued it should have been i don't see where you're saying the last the one before town oh
you went oh you're right you cuz I'm looking at the first two so it said they issued nonapplicable but that's not correct it shouldn't have been a non-applicable certificate it should have either been
applicable or denied do you know what I'm saying yes it is a structure in the historic district and they said it had nothing to do with Wait a minute no it didn't have anything to do with the architecture of the building yeah it doesn't matter
because it's a structure in the historic district madame chair yes again either read Mass General Law 4C under definitions a structure is a combination of wood or
any other materials that are above grade level so that particular application was deemed they didn't have purview over it but they actually did correct who is they the board this
commission this commission which speaks to the fact that it's not up yet what do you mean it's not up yet it's not there yet oh you want to go there no good me but I mean I would but I'm already enemy number three
so what do you So what do you I would put that back up see that's the thing no I I'm going to be adamant about that because that demonstrates that the newer people on the board were not
knowledgeable about what structures mean and what buildings it's not just architect i mean they denied this was done last year in the beginning of the year no it wasn't done when I was here it was done
when I was here that was done from July on it was done between July no it was made June July August and September and October because I I think it was done around October september October i thought I was appointed in October well then it must have been done before your
time before my um before the election I was here at a meeting but I think it happened yeah I have several months prior to Jack came before the board to do it can I ask Alicia a question sure
alicia Lisa did you Lisa lisa are you still there with us hi um did you say the structure had to be made out of wood so I'm going to directly refer to Mass
General Law 40C under the section called definitions the definition of a structure is a combination of wood and any other materials any other material okay any other materials I think it says
other than wood something you should read you should read it that is above grade level that means up above the ground okay got it i just wasn't sure now
here's an example of that at some point prior correct me if I'm wrong you want the president were you clear when they wanted to put bicycle racks on the town common oh yeah i was because that's a historic district and that is a
structure correct and they said and it was voted no because it wasn't appropriate but that's removable now we're going now wait whoa whoa once you attach stuff to the real estate it be to the land it becomes real estate you got to watch that that's that's something you got to really watch
because once you attach it be if you dig a hole and put a concrete base down oh well all right because most of the ones I've seen of bicycles they're just placed there there's no
that's that's a whole different No if it's removable that's fine but if it's a structure that's attached to the ground and it becomes well that I got understand but most ones I've seen are not attached really right I don't know I was in a at that time so okay so madam
chair just a proclarity the bike rack thing also brought um complaints from the the people who have to care for the common that it would be pushed around plowed around get pushed out of the way in the way blah
blah Well and it was voted down period endless story thank you that makes sense that was great yeah that does make sense so it wasn't a permanent fixture that that they were talking about no okay so is So we're putting in the report that
the previous board made an error that's what That's what you're saying well that that that's what I'm saying that is the context of the Is that what you want to say is call out the previous board for making an error i don't have a problem with that what
I'm saying that the I didn't really say it like that i just said that the Why can't you just say that um but the certificate was issued in error that's Yeah tell me what you're having trouble with erroneously you find that as a negative
word i don't okay so we have a difference of opinion well I know between negative and positive yeah no um All right let me just think of this um I think it's certification should I say the
nonPL the um the nonapplicable certificate was issued in error would that sound better but you're but you're making a judgment that a board made you're calling out an error that a previous board made can I tell you why
when you were not involved in the debate of whoever was on the board no but I but I'm just reporting on what was done that's right and it was wrong does their certificate says say this is an error no it was issued erroneous it um a new
issue was Lisa can you help a new issue was on the dummy here well Laura a new issue was given that's a new application was given to cover AD Main Street so but the reason I want to carry I want this to be
memorialized is because if there's anything in the future that somebody has an issue with that clock I want them to know that it was not done according to the historic district rules okay do you know how many things are
done by the zoning board that they the chair actually sits there and says just because we've given uh permission before doesn't mean you're going to get permission again it does not mean we repeat our errors right
right right but they don't report that i mean the action took place well they should the action took place i'm telling you the these people for 30 or something years have done this this way mhm
a board made a decision every situation that comes before you is different correct right different applicant different issue that you're addressing and sometimes you may go one way or other times you may go
another way and that is the board that made that decision it had to be a majority of the board that made that decision if not unanimous and I don't know I'd have to go back and see that or so would you did you investigate oh believe me I've been
living this for the past year well the logic that one motion the logic's not there though and like I think the problem is that it's so far separated from the other two appeal well if that was the whole thing that that would seem but that's what's confusing about it so and if you don't
know the history but that's what I'm saying you can say it in whenever we did the other I don't want to move it up to the top no it's not part of the top it's not part of the top so you're going to you're going to go in a a chronological order then that's what you're saying oh that's what
I did that's I know I was saying change it district-wise yeah but no the 80 Main Street clock came well after 80 Main Street other two issues so so apparently we must
have that meeting to Why do I think I remember that i don't know i wasn't at the meeting about the clock i wasn't at the meeting why do I think I remember that i thought we I thought we approved it i thought it was approved you did approve it but you approved the wrong
certificate on who saying on the fact that the historic district absolutely has purview which you put on the sheet wait you know what yeah I know i don't have it here i So if if we did this wasn't it the district commission to did wasn't it this board
that was meeting and did this yeah because it's in your report yes so if we did that so somewhere along the line we changed it then for it was appropriate we haven't changed it yet it's still It's still an existing No it's issued It was issued that way
we didn't change it Madam Chair what excuse me i do believe they issued it non-applicability based on their based on their statement where they said it was not in
their purview correct and it was and that was incorrect facts thanks so we have not done anything with it since then even though it was No because nobody's raised it well you raised it all right i guess I
raised it maybe I should revisit it i know so maybe we need we need it you signed it you signed it and they have a signed certificate of nonapplicability because
they signed it so that means it stays forever we can't reject we can't go back and revisit that that was a board decision right right but it was a time uh Laura I don't believe you were not on the board at
that time but I think I was in the audience for the night of the clock oh my god i love that no the bottom the bottom line is due to the lack of
understanding of the definition of a structure the board that was sitting at that time declared it not in their purview which was incorrect
how so they signed they signed the application of non-applicability which gives the applicant the right to go and do what they wanted to do and erect the clock
okay i think I remember that meeting yeah so we didn't So apparently Alicia we did not revisit that and make correct that error right can we do that no you reviewed the application you declared it
nonapplicable by stating it wasn't in your purview which was incorrect and you signed the application and sent the applicant along their way yep that's all right so now it stands okay that's fine i don't have a problem with that
correct but in the future if anyone ever challenges it we have to say it was incorrectly done but there's nothing you can do about it well that's what I'm getting at because we should just correct it and I see where Laura's coming from she's saying that it's not grandfathered because it was done
I I get that part but I just want to make it abundantly clear that it it's it's wrong well that's all right it was a wrong decision okay i just did it better than Alicia just did that was fine
that it was done in error due to the board being new or whatever i can't remember what you said Alicia are you Are you Alicia are you saying that my father Lisa are you saying that um you think that it should be stated in
the annual report as erroneous absolutely it's history thank you Alicia okay i do not agree with the Well maybe you don't but but you is it the vocabulary word erroneously because I'll change it to be less how about an
error all right is it an error negative for you too well about misunderstanding i I like that better so misunderstanding and I would not put it there okay so issued nonapplicable
certificate for placing clock in front of the Harbor Church building and then as a note okay as a note please note Yeah the the current
board may have made an error in judgment due to information they had or how they interpreted the information they had well it's not may they did it's not it's not Yeah and I think it's too lengthy too it's not
yeah I think it just made an error in judgment for that okay obviously issued as a note as a note then I would put issued in error i don't even think you have to do
that i I think you just have to say in era um let me see they issued the board issued a non-compliance certificate and I think that's really self-explanatory and error so if anybody said that in the future they're going to say all right well I am
worried about the future that that that's where my head is creating your head no it is well don't create a problem until it occurs you got to address the you got to address the proactive people and in error is
determined by a succeeding board it is was not determined by the board that made the vote no but it was a fact because it's based on
Was the fact brought up that night i Yeah we brought up several times that yeah we remember we were not sure we were not sure there was an error and we went back and forth um because Susan was there i wish she was here today she was trying to get back here today but um
yeah cuz she she brought it up that she felt that there was that it should be addressed as a regular uh approval by the board and we all looked at it and then she finally decided no it's really not applicable i thought you were here then too
madam chair yes you could make this very simple simply state the date of the application on blah blah blah whatever an application whatever just state the
date of the application i don't understand English i don't understand it either so you're trying to describe what happened and just you could just simply say on and look go back and find that application for the
clock and take the date it was approved and state it as on that date the commission whatever however you want to word it blah blah blah about the clock instead of trying to figure out who was there who wasn't there just put the date
of what date that application was approved that's not what I was trying to express i did say what you say an application was one of our applications of
appropriateness an application of nonapplicability was approved as opposed to the proper certificate of appropriateness but I understand what Alicia is saying too is that if you put the date down if they want to go back and look at it and
review it then there's your history there's your future you know they go back and look at that application i see that i'll put the date but I like Am I right Alicia is that what you were saying i like what you're saying say that again she said certificate
nonappable certificate but placed in the clock in front of the harbor church was issued was issued in love instead instead
of certificate of appropriateness and I will put the I'll go with that certificate of appropriate rather than what was issued was a nonapplicable certificate replacing the clock so I'm taking it that way it'll it'll set for the future
so if people want to go back and look at that and see what was said you know and see what was done and they can go back and look look at the actual Yeah it was July August either either you put uh issued nonapplicable certificate or
placing the clock in front of the Harbor Church building instead of a certificate of little that sounds good too that's perfect it was not a replacement we didn't say that i don't just said
replacement it was not a replacement of a clock the certificate the certificate was a certificate placing placing in placing yeah says placing in place of a certificate of appropriateness is
what I said yeah yeah here's what I'm putting on whatever date it is a non-applicable certificate for placing clock in front of the arbor church village was issued instead of a
certificate of appropriateness i that's good okay because that's what happened that is absolutely what happened yeah okay so we took out the negative word okay
but I get it so the date is going to indicate what if somebody goes back your history is based on the date i get it something because you don't want to say that people didn't know what they were doing okay we didn't i know certificate i mean we're human we learn
too i mean in each Yeah all right any other changes that you would like to talk about i don't have any okay
thank you a lot of work yeah it's a lot of work thank you it's now easy to do all right believe me I used to do the reports thank you very much um so can I have a defin
changes i'll make a motion will accept the annual report of 2024 as with the edits with with the
changes as presented okay do we have second second Julia any any further discussion or any more discussion hearing none may I have a vote please i'm going to stayain oh
good that's fair abstaining yes jo yes yes okay now I will get those i will make the changes and I'll send it out to everybody so they can just know that thank you
okay that being done um we're going to do the postcards but I'd like to table that if we can because it's getting late and you know your soul did you have anything for that okay just you were supposed to
put I know i'm sorry but I Yeah I I just wanted to make sure you were going to accomp you were going to add all the changes that Lisa and then I was going to actually put it on the card and print it out so that you could see it oh wow right but I just didn't get to it the little It's a postcard the small
postcard it's not the You want to send us before you print it i will if you do that yeah does anyone have any new business no just be thankful you don't have a budget no I do have a budget but we didn't spend it yet did you get your um
reimbursement Julia no that was one of the things I was going to bring up i still haven't got I was going to stop and How does that How does that happen well you have to put a We did you did you She put it an invoice in to the um Yeah you remember cuz um Kathy came in
with it and had you sign it and showed you what to do with it okay i remember Kathy Spford yes kathy clerk so should I go up i'll go up and check with Katie and see what it says yeah well I stop I stopped to check with her last time of course there she was not there when I
went so oh so well I I'll pop in i know not tomorrow i know that was one of the things I was going to bring up but I didn't get where they added reimbursement so all right well by the way what do we have in the budget $1,000 and it's really to cover mailing
mailings because for example I had to do the hearing for the Jake Tart so I had to send all those are you in the omnimous budget i'll have to look no I don't think we are Laura i think So where's your money who's got And where is your money
set aside i think in the Buddhist or our money set aside yeah I think it's in the Buddhist I think but I don't think it's in the omnibus because they were talking about that during the summit if we were going to put it in or not and someone said no because you if you don't use it
you can ask for it next time on a warrant article does that not sound right oh don't ask we're in We're in trouble oh don't ask for the money no I I said I don't know what's going on what you don't know what's going Okay who
knows what's going to happen period i mean put it that way it's going to be really bad yeah but let me tell you something so if you want to chitchat with your with everybody out there right now because of what happened at
the special meeting and the fact that we have no free cash left right and I knew that was coming yep and everything that the school needed is absorbed by the town's budget we now have to go out for
approximately $1.3 million override on the ballot in order to cut the budget to where we still only need let's say 411,000 we have to close town hall for
one day a week everywhere we have to cut hours we have to cut it's just and everybody every budget has to have um a cut in their office supplies
um that that was our first goaround the second goaround would be if we don't get the 400 and and and trash goes away so you're all going to pay probably $600 a year for your trash so figure out how
much Oh but that's okay okay why what do you do i don't have that much trash oh but in order to get Where would you put your trash i would contract with somebody but there are other contractors out there yeah so contractors are $40 to
$60 a month and they don't pick you up once a month or every other month you have to pay every month even if you're putting out one bag that's the way it goes so say $600 you get more contractors that'll come out that do
something else that'll adjust okay well I think everybody has to make this decision for themselves so you're either going to pay $400 or $500 more than let's say a year for your trash and that's going to be gone but if
you go with the 1.3 that includes the trash so you don't have to pay the four or five or six override in the or if you go for the full override it will include point of order madam chair
all right yes you don't want to hear it so it's okay no I don't see on your agenda where the the um the override is listened for discussion or the trash it's not on your agenda okay we can we can we can close the meeting and then
talk among ourselves then not go on the We really can't well it's not a board issue it's not a board issue yeah but we can't talk anymore yes we can we're more than a quorum of this board open meeting law violation
not talking about anything in the HTC it doesn't matter we are board members and we're in the same room and we're talking believe me I just went through the webinar yesterday i did too i went through it last I went through it last week i did the meeting anyway all right
solve this meeting i second please what time is it what time 4:36 p.m may I have a I Yes thank you very much we're journed
thank you