Okay, I'm going to call the meeting to order at 3:00 of the historical district commission and please have a roll call. Harold is here from here. Very good. We have a quorum so we can
have a meeting. The first thing we're going to do is accept the minutes. Now that the meeting is being >> Oh, I'm sorry. Is the meeting being recorded by This meeting is being recorded by Tcam. Is anyone else recording?
>> No. Having heard. No, we're good. Accept the minutes for February and March. >> I make a motion that we accept the minutes for the public hearing of February 26,
2026. That is my motion. I'll second that motion. >> Thank you, Jerry. >> Now, that was a public hearing where we had Craig Moore on Zoom and we talked about the sign. >> Who sign?
>> The sign for UPS. >> Yes. >> Thank you. And um we didn't make any motions, but we asked them to get back to us with information from UPS if they would accept different
fonts and unlit. Haven't heard a word. I um emailed the woman who her name is Nora who represents the sign company and she said she was going to look into it, but I haven't heard anything from them. So I don't know if they've dropped the application. I don't know if they're
still on board if they got another comp. I don't know. And they didn't get back to us. They didn't get back to us. No. >> It's not our problem. >> Okay. >> Do they have a time frame for that or No, >> I haven't heard anything. >> Okay. Nothing.
>> I didn't know if we had >> Well, they're running all these ads on TV and what they show is their sign and there are different motifs to these signs. So, our problem is not.
>> Oh, no, no, no, no. Where was I? It was somewhere yesterday and I walked in and it was an UPS place and it just had UPS 24-7. I remember, >> but are we are we talking about the
minutes? >> I'm sorry. Well, yeah, >> there's a second. Is there any changes? Okay. Sorry, I'm late. >> You want >> um Where are we going?
>> I'll squeeze right in here. It's okay. >> Thanks. >> Would you please give her the minutes? Yes. Um, Matthew, would you make another copy for me, please? She can have mine. >> What do we got?
>> Agenda. I have it. >> I have a minute. >> Oh, but that was yours. >> Great. So, the motion's back motion. Any discussion? >> Discussion. All right. >> Yeah. for additions or deletions deletions on minutes. Anybody have
anything? >> I re I try to reach out to some of the people from UPS. My group is gone. >> Oops. >> The lemon building was closed down 6 months ago. So anybody from customer service I have any connections with have
since retired >> and they're in the Tubesberry Chumsford and Worester buildings and they're a whole different group and I have no one I know they're >> well I believe that with the center it's in their daily >> it's in their corner
>> what happens if all of a sudden we see you be signed up to that we have not approved >> send them a warning and then we That was the fine. Okay. So, >> now you go down and take it down. I mean, oh, how
>> you want me to climb? Oh, no. >> Great. All right. >> So, we've got discussion. Can I have a vote? >> Gerine, do you accept the minutes? >> I did accept the minutes. >> No, she seconded. Second, right? I want
to vote. Oh, yes. I'm sorry. That's okay. JB >> Loren. Yes. >> Maria >> Maria Milligan. Yes. >> I make a motion to table the minutes of
March 12th, 2026. >> I think that would be >> Yeah, that's good. Okay. So, I have a first and a second to table them because I am brought the wrong list. Um, and that's in discussion. That's a discussion we had. I have a meeting
table. Yes. >> Thank you, James. >> James. Yes. Maria. >> Maria. Yes. >> Yes. very interested. >> So,
next item is to discuss, but really what we're really going to do is we're going to set a date because Tiffany at um 431 Maine wants to demolish the house. >> 401 M. >> 401, I'm sorry. 401. She wants to
demolish the house. >> Why do we need a public hearing for that? because we need a public hearing when anything big like that happens. So, we have to have that public hearing. I She didn't realize when she came in and I
didn't know that she had made an application to be demolition. She's got to apply for demolition. We have to approve it. >> Um but we can't approve it on our own. It has to first go to the public hearing for any of Butters. That gets a little tricky because of where she is. Because
Susan Girkin is, I believe, her only a butter. Correct. It is to the left of our house facing the house that's committed to demolished. >> So I don't know if >> I have never heard of us needing to go to a public meeting for a demolition of a house. Is it because it's
okay historic historic district commission requires public hearing. So almost everything almost everything >> because of it. >> It's taken away an architectural building from the site.
example. So, and part of the rule is that you have to have evidence that the demolition is necessary. And luckily for us, when Johnny Dilva came and gave his report, he did give a report by a structural engineer that he
did. So, he did that. But we got to present that to the public hearing, >> but it gets I mean Susan Girkin's the only one unless we have to >> across the street. What about the people across the street? You're a visual. Yeah. >> Visual. >> Doesn't it have to be Doesn't a butter
mean within 50 ft or 100 ft? >> I'm going either way. >> Always. >> I think it's visual road too >> from the neighbors. Yeah. >> Yeah. It's visual. It's No, no. It's not Oh, no. No. It's not like next to No,
it's about the vision. So, who are you saying get the vision on on that? >> Who's your question? >> Fair banks. It would be Fairbanks's house that is directly across from the gold colored house. >> Okay. Are they on a corner?
Well, >> basically facing it looking down. >> What about I mean All right, I'll get a list. >> You got you got >> All right, I'll get a list and so we need a date. Now, here's the rule on the You have to have 14 days
notice. I have to post it and then we can't have it for 14 days. So when do we want to have it? >> I like to do the sooner rather than later. >> Yeah. >> I just spoke about go side and I think we should expedite it as quick as
possible because of the condition of it. It's going to fall down. It is a danger. >> But we got to follow the rules. >> Correct. >> So we need 14 days from what day? Well, today >> today or from when you get the application?
>> No, I have the >> Oh, you did the demolition. >> I just because she didn't she didn't know she had to give it to me. >> Okay. >> Cuz Bob Gar had only got the um building application. We failed to tell her at the time that
she needed the application for the HTC. So I when I talked to her, I said, "You need both." So she I sent one to her and she sent it right back. >> But she sat with us >> and at a meeting with her engineer,
but that was a factf finding meeting. She just wanted to know what the processes were. And I think what happened is when she went to get the building permit because Janet's no longer there and I don't know what went on, but Bob didn't get the application
for us, he got his but not ours. See, they come through the No, but she was sitting here for the process. >> She was You just said that she was sitting at the process of the hearing. >> No, that was justformational. That was
justformational. >> Well, the um the 23rd 23rd >> is that the election day? >> No. >> No, that Monday is 48. >> 27th is the election. >> All right. I got to post the meeting. >> 27th is Monday.
So, are you going to try to bring the meeting up, Mary J? I >> Yeah, it's got to be 14 days. >> Are you going to be able to send out a voter's notice in that town? >> Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, I'll do that tonight. I I'll create a letter. I'll get the list and
I'll send them out tomorrow. >> Okay. >> Yeah. There's not that many. >> There's only two according to this. >> What I'm saying when you get the list, you need to define who is considered an house. Which one is you can see it? So, this is >> Yeah, I'll drive up there. I have to
drive up there anyway because I got another application which I'll talk about later. >> But, um, I will drive up and I'll look and see who who's got the visual or >> I think it might just be three houses there. Jane, I'm looking at the map.
>> Really? There's not a lotus. >> What about What about Phil Diesel's old house? Can he see that from there? >> I just can't picture that. All I can see is the rear one tracks and >> so it's this is 401
that's fair banks I believe. >> I'll be right back. >> Yeah, that's true. >> All right, I'll just try break here after this meeting is broken. >> Yeah. >> So knowing just those three. So even if you sent it
out to them >> and what I send to them is I send them the agenda and I also send them a waiver if they don't want to because they don't want to end and I could have subressed me a couple of it. So if they send it back quicker, can we have the meeting quicker or no?
>> No, it still would be Yeah. two weeks. >> You have to stick to them. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Because the post was going to be for two weeks. >> Yeah. Okay. I just don't know how to get around it. So you would have the thing of it is you can't you have two weeks from today at this time.
>> I know that'll be >> no due to the fact that it's after three >> and I didn't post. >> Okay. >> So I didn't want to post until I talked to get a date. >> Right. >> Well, let's stick with the 23rd and just
don't worry. I can't because it's not Is it working days or is it calendar days? >> Calendar. >> Calendar. Life is working. >> Yeah. It's the time, Jared. >> Oh, >> unless you posted it right now. >> I went in and post it. I have >> to go the 24th.
>> Yeah. What's the Friday? >> Third year, Friday. >> You want to do a Friday, then? >> I don't care. I mean, I don't mind doing a Friday just to get it done, but I don't know what your schedules are. >> I'm not doing anything. I'm available.
Okay. >> I don't care. 24th 24th. And also >> maybe we can >> and no one's probably going to come anyway. >> So you're going to open a you're going to open though a general meeting and
then have the public hearing. So since we're going to be opening the general meeting, if there's something else to address, we could address it that day rather than waiting for we'll do the application that right after the public hearing. >> Yeah. But if something else came in,
which I will discuss. >> Oh, perhaps we can have it that day when we have it on the month. >> Oh, I agree 100%. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's your frustration about that? >> That's good. I mean, I'm I'm all for that. >> The like for like cuz an application
came in from the UPS store for the roof to be done like for like like style like material and that has to wait to come here. Oh, okay. First of all, I didn't get that, but you sent it to me. Like for
light, and I think I sent this email to you. >> You did that. >> And you know more than I do. I understand. >> I I will sign off on like for life and then I bring it to the board to ratify, but they can move forward with my signature. >> Well, that's what I thought. That's not what you said. What did I say?
>> You said it would have to wait for the meeting. But I I have found out from other people that the chair can do sign off a like. >> You didn't get my email then. I I sent you an email. I I don't want >> Yeah. Yeah. No, no, you're 100% right.
And I 100% told you that I can sign off and then have it ratified at the next meeting. We've done that like 20 times. >> Okay. >> So, what if we use the terminology like that's >> Yeah. What does that mean? >> Why don't we just say changes? Is that right?
Is that historical when when there Yes. Because that is telling us that the same roof, same color, material, everything's the style is the same was there >> to say that there will be no changes. It's going to be
>> identical to what is being >> I got to learn this ling. >> We've always used like the like >> and that's how it was explained to me too. And I also work for you. >> Yeah. >> Like and some of the people fill it out
and they say white for like and then they'll tell you what kind of shing what color they're in. And some people do that which is great. And I just sign off on those and then I bring them back. >> I mean you must have done 10 last year. I know we did 10. >> Okay. Just as long as you don't have to wait for a meeting.
>> No they don't. >> No. >> You know when it's something that simple. >> Yeah. No. No. They never did have to wait. Um >> Okay. That was funny. >> But I but but I have to have the application so I can stamp it in. >> Yeah, we can't do anything unless we have an application.
>> I think you sent it to me. I'm not sure. >> So this meeting for April 24th is at 3:00 p.m. >> I don't know if you want to do a three. The courthouse is the um >> No, they're open till 4. >> Oh, they are? >> Yeah. >> So you pick the time. I mean I don't
care what time it is. >> Well, that's a normal time. >> Three good. What does her courthouse have to do with I just always courous so I always call courthouse I never call city hall or whatever it is courous
>> another piece of historical language I have to learn that J and we'll be all set >> I got to just keep up to speed with everybody I don't want to be >> that's not possible >> 3:00
3:00 with you Good for what about you? >> I'm pictur Oh, >> no. It is a Friday, right? >> Yeah. Noon's fine. You don't want to do Friday? >> No, I can't do Friday. >> Oh, you can't do Friday at all. >> Well, 3:00 in the afternoon, I
>> Oh, on April 24th. >> Okay. >> Right. >> Yep. What day is that? As it stands at >> Friday, April 24th at 3:00 >> at 3. But I have to cancel a hair appointment. My nails got done for the
meetings. But I'll sacrifice. >> Oh, I don't want you to sacrifice. I want you to keep your meeting. >> I want you to keep the nail. >> Why aren't you looking good at the meetings, Joe? I'm sorry. >> So, all right. And that's going to be public hearing for the demolition of
Tiffany's house. That's what it says on five. And then we're going to at that same meeting. >> Y >> we are going to do the application >> voting. >> So do I have to post two meeting? >> No. >> Public hearing and
>> no. Okay. Agenda and the public >> and the public hearing can be part of the agenda for that day like you would do. >> Oh my. Okay. All right. Good. So we'll take care of Tiffany and she'll be off tonight. Okay, Madam Chair, are we still on for
one Main Street? >> Yes. >> In regards to the demolition. >> Okay. Do you recall the question I posed to you last meeting? >> Mhm. >> About does she have to replace what she's got in her >> and that's no. She doesn't have to do
the exact house, >> but she has to stay within the historic >> deviation from the white to light. In other words, >> yeah. No, no, it's on white to light. So, she should have been able we should have been able to explain to her. >> We'll talk to her about that when she comes to the application,
>> right? >> Because she send it back. She can increase. >> Oh, yeah. She didn't have to put it where it was, but she has to put it in the period. >> Correct. I think when she left here, she was looking at it has to be identically
where it was and and the construction of it. I had a feeling that's what she really wanted to do. >> She did until she was told that >> she nothing can be saved. >> It was even the foundation can't be saved, right?
>> So it's a whole different story now that it's >> total. So therefore she has a degree of change and she can make further from the road increase but it has to be presented in the HDC
for the facade acceptance. >> Correct. 100% correct. >> But but this hearing is only specific to the demolition. >> Correct. >> We're not there yet. The application will come later as she gets >> I just wanted us to be able to notify her that she does have a degree of
deviation and then she can make some changes. >> We can tell her that when we go >> No, she did not. >> All right, let's go. >> Yeah, we can bring that up. All right. So, can I present vote a motion to >> hold the public hearing
street >> for the demolition of the property? >> Yep. on April >> on April 24th at 3 p.m. >> Thank you for second. >> Second. Thank you. Any discussion on that meeting that for the hearing? >> Okay. Can I have a roll call vote?
>> Yes. >> Ship. Yes. >> James Dan. Yes. >> Marin. Yes. >> Yes. This will be good present. Okay. You ready?
We're going to have a presentation by Maria Milik on our letters to the HDC residents finally. >> Okay. It's not a letter. >> That's okay. Well, some kind of clarify, very very draft. Um Mary Jean sent me a
couple samples of actual letters that other towns have sent out, including one did a door hanger. >> I know. I saw that one. >> That was cool. But where is it? I don't have it. Must be in my car. Um, so that's an idea if we didn't want to do a
postcard. Oh, here it is. You could do a door hanger. >> Now all the historic properties to let them know that they're in the So anyway, let me just >> informative. >> Yeah, this is all about letting
>> people are aware they're in HBC. Yeah, >> we have 100 properties in HC. >> It is 100 cuz I need that number. Thank you. >> 100 properties. That includes Methodist church, congregational church, and some
commercial plants. >> Okay, good to know. So, when we do a postcard, we can't just say your home. We should say your property. >> All right. So, anyway, what I did is I just drafted up um a sample. Obviously, it needs to be shrunk to 4x6 size
postcard or door hanger size. And if you flip it over, it's two-sided. So, the front is just supposed to be >> real simple. The back is the message, the address, and the stamp because you have to keep space for all of that stuff on a postcard. Um, and I have given this
to one of my customers in a who's a printer, >> JNS Business Products. Um, and he's working on an actual postcard mark mockup >> technology. This is just a word document. >> Um, and he'll give me a price for the
100 prints. >> Okay, that's great. Yeah, for the postcard. >> Yeah. >> Um, >> unless we decide to do a door handle. >> Can we get two prizes? >> Yeah, I'll ask him to do the door handle, too. >> Because if we do the door handles, I'd be more than glad to drive you around so
you can jump out. Oh, that that's a picture kind of a lot. >> It'd be interesting though. >> I have a question for to you because you're a real estate agent and door
hangers are a real estate kind of thing. Are people okay with the door hanger? Do they mind you coming over property? >> Do they get all people get weird weird on it? >> I don't know. like it. >> I got door hangers from the churches or whatever they are walking around.
>> I get the scooter in the door. >> I don't think I know that. >> There's no It's not offensive anyway. Then we're not going to bring causing anybody to >> I'm not easily offended. So, and I realize people are. >> Yeah, >> it would. The only thing is it would
save us on postage, but that's not going to be a lot. I don't know if it's going to be a lot postage for 100 mailers. for post. >> How much is that? >> 37 cents for a postcard. >> Okay. >> How am I
post? We're going to get factor in the cost of the stamp the >> So, I guess what I would want your opinion on is the uh language. Yeah. >> And what else you want to add? Because you can add a QR code that goes directly to our website if someone takes a
picture with Do you know? Does everyone know what a QR code is? >> Oh my gosh. Yes. I mean, I don't want to assume, but we're not there. >> So, it would take >> I like that idea. >> Yeah. I don't know where. I'd have to
ask Jose to pop it. >> Maybe we can take something out. >> She also put the the um town website on it too with if you want to use the QR >> right down here. They'll have the town website and
they'll have the HDC website >> available. So that way when they see it they Oh wow. I'd like to know more about my house that's in HDC. I want to reach out to Mary. >> He has that. >> Just saying that's an important little piece. >> I think that's a good idea. I like the
QR code. >> Yeah, me too. >> I looked it up. Sorry. >> Yeah. And that's why I put a shared commitment to towns and history. I was trying to be uplifting about the whole situation. We could change that title.
>> What aren't you saying? You probably shared commitment to >> um Yeah, just the title that >> a shared commitment like it's working together. >> It is a shared commitment. I think we were working together for >> should be. But we could change the title
too. I can go back to the drawing. >> Have we been getting trouble for using M's house? Do I have to give permission to m Danny, >> it's not a good picture to be honest with you. It's It's not It's a beautiful property. The um Isn't that Danny? No,
that's Danny. That's Brooklyn Street. That's >> Yeah, Brooklyn Street. >> It's standing. >> It's not an im. I need a JPEG image. And >> I I didn't I I took these off Matt Press. >> Yeah. So, it's So, I need an actual JPEG. >> All right. We need the meeting.
What? >> Where's the meeting hall? >> The Methodist church. Oh go. >> So I'll just take a picture of whatever. Wouldn't it be good res take a picture of the red house?
>> I was going to say the same thing. >> Yeah, just take a picture of the read house. >> Okay, whoever wants to do that just looks awful. Looks awful on the exterior. >> Oh, it doesn't look good right now. We need something looks good. What about the >> ladies?
Picture of me. There you go. There's all of us with our arms around each other. >> So Delan is I don't know. Are we going for beauty or we going for what? >> We want it res looks nice. Sorry. >> What about Mary Jane Krueger's Wolf House? They just
>> res. >> Do we need permission? That's a question. I would ask you if >> you get a picture of your husband. >> I can ask him. >> Whoever would you mind? We'd like to
feature your home on the We'd like to feature your home on the >> spoken. That's an honor. >> It is. >> Yeah. >> But you have to ask 100%. >> My opinion. >> Yeah. >> I like the fancy.
>> What about your house? Sure. In the historic district, >> Mhm. But I like Danny McN. >> Well, and that would be fine, too. I mean, Danny McNav's house is a nice house. >> It's a cool house. >> Um, you'd have to get another photo of it.
>> Oh, yeah. This isn't even a >> Okay. So, how do we get a JPEG photo for you? >> I I can take it if you tell me where to go. Someone else can take it and email it to me. Take a picture on a camera. >> I can't. That's going to be someone else. I know. >> I prefer a picture of a building in West
Towns because I live in West Townsen. Can you say that? >> You want to fight about it? >> When we talk to the Delaneies that looks nice with the clock is a very nice property. >> It's the Williams operation. The whole >> Right. And you know what else is a really nice looking property is that
historic association down by the DFW, the gold building on the right hand side. >> Oh yeah, that looks really good, too. >> That's nice. That would be at one point, wasn't it? >> They lived at the >> tavern.
>> No, no, it's not in the district. >> That's not in the district. >> What? >> We're talking about that tavern, right? >> No, that's that's the Leos. That's No, it's
No, it's at the BMW. It's too bad. >> I know. I know. It's too bad. I agree. I agree 100%. I Because that that would be a great historic property to have >> because the Jaws Tavern worked with our building. That's where they put all the
workers in the >> for the in. And that's where they did all the vegetables and all that. >> Yeah. See, that's a great >> But once we get the historical designation confirmed, then we can go to these people and say, "Do you want to be
in the do you want your house to be it's in the historical?" >> Right. That I think that would be good. Just like I want to pitch that we bring forward all the historical farm buildings and >> Yeah. >> bombs that were in because they came before anything else.
>> So she All right. I'll talk to Danny. You want to talk to uh Elizabeth Donison and historical guy? Historical guy. >> The golden building that one. Yeah, >> this is kind of neat. This one says reminder that this property is in the
historic district. That's also another way to >> I like I don't have a copy. >> I said your property is located within I think reminder. >> This is a friendly reminder. >> Yeah, I like reminder,
>> right? >> Do you like reminder? >> And then it goes on to say exterior changes must be reviewed before they can be performed. Blah blah city staff members to assist you.
Um, and then this says, "The design standards for historic properties is a guide for property owners and contains a wealth of information. copies can be downloaded from this website, but we don't have something like that. >> We don't have a >> Well, we could say more. >> We don't have a website. >> No, we have >> we don't have a guide.
>> Okay. >> Because we're not that strict. We don't regulate color. >> We're not that strict. >> Galveistston, >> would I say this is a friendly reminder that this property or your property? I think you I would
>> Okay. Is located within >> Yep. >> Okay. Um but how do you like properties in the district follow local guidelines designed to preserve the historic character of our community? >> Yes, I properties
in the district. >> Local guidelines properties in the district. planning up your changes. >> Such a word that will demolition. Please contact us early. We're here to help. >> I like I like I like the third paragraph
that that's very helpful. >> So keep that >> keep that intact. >> And then contact us. We're going to add the website and the QR code. >> And I like the thank you for helping preserve towns historic character. Now, if I have a revision and I have a
mockup from my friend Jose, can I blind copy everybody and send it out without violating >> any? We can't and we can't say anything. >> You can respond to me. >> We can respond. It's only going to look like it came from me, but everyone's going to get one from it. It should be,
>> right? >> Isn't that Poland? >> No, because no one knows. You'd only know if you go into my email inbox and see my sent items. >> I'm not polling.
>> Yeah, you are. You're asking everybody's opinion. >> No, no, I'm not. I was going to send you the revision if you heard me. I said, "Can I send the revision?" >> You're not asking everybody. >> No. >> Oh, okay. We can talk about it at the next
meeting. >> So, you're sending it forformational purposes so we could see it. >> We're not voting on it. We're not that we're not replying to each other. >> No. >> No. >> However, >> I would eliminate that second paragraph. >> Yeah, I think
then you can but the others do and then exterior changes keep it more informative. >> Yeah. Rather than >> to the point. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Other than that, I think it's good information. >> Very good.
>> Okay. I like the door hanger. I think I like the door hanger. >> Like I said, you easy to get on. I I won't use the door hanger. I mean, if you I like the door hanger, but you're talking about putting it on a 100 homes
>> versus a mailing for $37. So, cost of gas and time, >> uh, up to you. >> Let's get the price on that. I was on with the door hanger. You mentioned people walking on your property. I looked out my window the other day and
there was a cop on street >> and I'm like, >> why is there there >> all of a sudden this woman came from around the corner of my house >> and walked to the car?
>> You know, I was a little okay. Then I realized she had a political sign. Now whether she knocked on my door, I don't know. And I have no idea who it was. But it did unnerve me. >> Yeah. >> She my pocket.
>> I could have reached out my window and touched her. >> Okay. She wasn't down on the corner. >> On my feet on that property of your 100%. Yeah. What about dogs? I do like And
dogs. Mhm. and knocked in drop boxes for 35 years. You know what it's like to see me walking up to your house? Oh, it's trash. No, it's lock the doors and put the light. >> Okay. I like the door hanger, but let's
get on. >> You know, I don't have a door that you could hang that on. >> Oh, you get a front door. >> It doesn't have that kind of a hanger. >> No, I would. We may do both.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Let's come here on my porch >> and hang it on. >> So that was just feedback. There's no votes that are going to be taken. >> No votes taken. Nope. >> We'll just make sure you have a >> I do.
>> Okay. Now moving on. So, um, number eight, again, we're going to hear from Maria Milikin, and she's going to give us a recap, a brief recap of the
>> CPA, newly formed CPA committee's first meeting, which >> I have an update. >> I have a question to ask this committee. >> Um, >> no, he's not. There's a lot of different
There you go. >> Lance McNertion, he's the chair. >> Sandra Lord, >> Irene, our conservation. >> Robert Juselo, he's a member at DBA,
but I think he's a member at large. >> Okay. >> Um, >> go green. She's 96 Kim. >> Kimo. >> I think she's from the trust. >> She's the trust. >> She's taking notes. Um I do have that. I
can tell you where everyone's from if you want to know. >> It's a it's made up. In other words, the committee has is is it tells you where each person has to be from, >> right? We need to have um
>> sent over from conservation at large actually. Okay. Robert Jolo a large >> he's member >> Irene is from the housing authority right >> Robert's cemetery and parks
>> I'm HDC and Lance is planning board >> um really good group >> very nice group of people >> um so we're planning next month
to actually invite um a representative from each of our boards to come to our meeting so we can give you a much more detailed um you know explanation of what the CPC is all
about. Um and then we're actually going to have a public hearing in May and invite the me um members of the community to come and get information as well. Um, so the good thing is we're just forming this group and we have
time. Um, we have help as well. There is, um, a community preservation coalition. They're based out of Boston and they help all of the CPCs in the whole entire state. So, >> so you got a good so far.
>> So, Steuart and his team, I think he he's executive director, he had two other people from his office come >> um and they're there to help us. So, any questions we have as we go through um
forming this group, we can go to them um technical assistance website, you know, emails, everything, training. Um, so I was just trying to get to the important there's 201 cities and towns in Mass who already have CPCs. So we're
joining that group of people. Um, and what else can I tell you? You don't need to know all this stuff, but there are three areas in which this money
that's collected from taxes. 1% property tax um but excluding household income of under a 100,000. So those people don't pay the tax. >> Well, they have to apply.
>> They have to fill out >> not to be. Okay. I'm not sure exactly. >> I think also the question I will >> and it's household number. >> Yep. Household. That's what I said. >> Yeah. Isn't it also not on the entire
assessment? There's a portion of the assessment that's cut off. >> Cut off. >> So, we'll be able to um receive our first trust fund distribution in November. >> Do we automatically get a check or does it go into our watering tape?
>> No. No. So what happens is the CPC um so >> you get the budget. >> You get the budget, >> right? We have a budget already that passed. So and there's I'm trying to find it. Here it is. So open space,
historic preservation, and community housing. Those are the three areas that would be under open space. >> Oh, >> yeah. >> Three categories. >> Correct. And our budget has already been voted on, but we have to bring it to the
next town meeting. So I >> Yes. >> When you say hour, you're talking about CPA and the timeline store. >> CPC. >> Oh, CPC. >> Yeah. I'm not really being specific to HDC right now. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Um, let's see. So,
what else can I tell you? >> There is a warrant article in the main. >> Yeah. And I'm doing that. Good me. >> And I have a script from our friend Stuart. >> Good. >> Yeah. Good. >> Yeah. Um, so that's what's going to
happen. You asked, we have to come up with an application. We have samples to choose from. >> Um, and so folks from the community can put in an application. Um, and like I said, those three areas will have money
and say call it $19,000 in for each. We'll re the our board CPC will review the applications and make our choice and then but everything has to be approved at town meeting. Nothing will happen until town meeting approves.
>> Um >> but that's usual standing up operating procedure. They have to >> which means we'll try to have those applications and recommendations to the town in the fall. >> Right. That's right. The fall. >> That's right. So, are the are the
applications from citizens or organizations or both? >> Both. It's a mix. >> A mix. It can be from, as I understand, anybody >> and to to make an application, >> right? Yeah. >> And apply for the grant so to speak.
>> Yeah. And then we do have operating like administrative budget. So, the CPC does so that we can, you know, put out signs and do promotion. Yeah. stuff like that. Hold public hearing. Um,
>> what do you estimate your income will be in November? By November. >> Um, we have that number is 91,000. >> Yeah, they she actually >> something. I don't know what >> Yeah, it was a pretty good number that Sandra brought back to the meeting last
night. We had discussed >> split three ways. >> Not exactly. The three ways are split evenly and then there's administrative um >> money allocated separate ways. >> How does it who gets the administrative thing?
>> Who gets it? We determine how we want to spend it. the board me. So they take a cut with this >> who's who takes the cut the CPC >> to okay it's called we can start spending this in July actually admin
committee administrative expenses so we can like I said promotional product products or um >> take care of the uh paperwork >> the financial >> record keeping it's someone at the town
>> and we can hire someone if we feel that We need to do that. >> The money goes into the general fund then no a separate account. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> Is that sometimes once it goes into the general account and town
it'll just piss. I mean we've seen it just like meeting house keeps whatever money they get. Meeting houses coffers. We just did a logging up there. So all the money from Milwaukee went directly to the median house park
account, not to the general fund. >> So that's so so there's going to be three separate accounts. One for open space, one for his store. >> I don't know the the financial arrangement. Yeah. And you can ask that when you come to ourformational meeting, Mary Jane, if you want to be the
representative. What's that? >> When will that meeting be? You said may have you set a date on May. We have an informational meeting to give a brief summary to the board um of representatives. 4:30 we're planning that, but we haven't pushed any
information out to the boards yet. >> But more than one person could come, right? >> I think so. Yeah. >> I'll run that by the board. >> We can say >> Mhm. >> Well, >> but then again, don't forget we're having a public hearing on five people.
>> Yeah. And that's our regular meeting. We meet every third Thursday. >> Third Thursday. >> Third Thursday. What time? >> We meet at 6 PM, but that public hearing will have as well at 6 p.m. And we haven't advertised that yet at all.
>> And we're holding it. >> We don't know yet. We haven't figured out the details >> cuz you're only two meetings in right now. >> That's right. Yeah. >> And it started a lot earlier than perceived. Weren't we looking at this a little further down the road? >> No, I don't think so. No, at the
presentation she's got the got >> they have their marching orders >> to have something for the fall meeting. >> Right. Right. >> But wasn't it in the fall when they first presented this >> CPA? >> Oh, we heard about it before we had a
right last year. >> So it's been a year a year. >> So the administrative I can share the slideshow with you if you want. you were asking a lot of questions and this says administrative account for CDC expenses only. For example, hire new staff to support the CDC, professional help on
appraisals, consultants, legal assistance, due diligence on project recommendations. Um, and it says what it's not for. >> So, in other words, for you to have information about the applications that you get in so you can get them and see if they're legit or cover.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> I get it. I get it. >> Okay. So I that may be on our website too because I think we had it up >> either the same day as a presentation or or after that >> and we have to work still on putting a
page on the town's website for CPC and we don't have any of that done yet. So we're very very early, >> right? But it's good to know what they're doing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, I think it's going to be great for us for the historic district. You know, we're going to be able to get some
funds to do some stuff. >> Yeah, we need signage. >> Yeah, I agree. >> My girl came back to our conservation meeting. She was, you know, about the money that's being allocated and whatever, you know. So, >> it's all good.
>> It's all good stuff. >> And they're moving forward with it. >> Yeah. >> I Yeah. But I do think the one thing that I think is going to be a concern for the residents is the opt out program. You know, for those who make under
>> there's going to be a problem. >> Well, no that they don't know that they've got to know about and how because I've heard some pretty horrible things about >> that's been advertised and uh people have contacted the assessor's office. >> Correct.
>> To find out what to do. >> Is that who we contacted? >> The assessor's office. Okay, she knows she knows more about that program and just how >> I was a little naive on the opt out. In other words, there's people that have an we have an option in
>> if you make under a 100,000 household income, you do not have to pay the tax. >> There's an opt. >> I think that's the only reason it passed in my opinion, >> right? It's >> fine. I think it's great. >> Yeah. So I mean I think we got to find
out about the application like what it entails >> entails. I agree. >> Oh we don't as HTC but >> no I mean yeah >> and it has been mentioned before I know it has >> um
>> just a little more clarification. >> Yeah. >> What's it 100 or 125? >> 100. Okay, >> that's very informative today. Thank you. >> So I more if you want more information, I have less of it.
>> Yes. Yes. >> Going to be on your website. >> Is what >> is a lot of it going to be on the website at some point? Okay. >> Oh, yeah. We'll put it all up there once we have everything in order. >> Yeah. Cuz I'm thinking, should I ask her for copy so I can put it in the minutes or should I just >> No, no, this is just a brief overview.
>> Honestly, >> I wouldn't be too specific. Okay. But do what you want. >> No, but that was very helpful. >> Exceptional. >> So then we'll go to April. What did you say? Oh, but you don't know for sure. >> What's that? >> April 30th for the board of people.
>> I'm quite sure that we'll pull it off. >> Uh, no. I don't have a time. >> I thought you said May 23rd. >> That's public hearing. 4:30 is we're going to invite
representatives from each of the >> because we want input from the boards, you know. >> Yeah, >> it's all good positive stuff. >> We'll see. Hope it stays that way. >> Any questions? I want to see how it won't
I this is probably not the right class one but >> if we have just say we get $30,000 >> to our kitty right I just said >> two what's 191 divided by 3 is >> so it's not it's 19,000 to be specific
because I already told you there's administrative costs that are >> so 19,000 so as the historic district commission >> Kathy I was relying on Yeah, >> but why is it 19,000 per category? >> I'm not here to talk about the budget.
>> I think you're really forget even >> it says the three categories that they can give money for. >> Well, people can apply to you can apply, you can apply, you can apply, I can
apply. So can the HTC go to each one but does the HTC itself as as a commission >> 100%. >> So if we were to apply >> Yep. >> would we be able to apply to make a
grant happen for homeowners that want to fix their house and are in the district. They don't have the money. >> Good question. I don't know. >> I don't know. That's a good question. I think it has to be a specific project. Yes. Um, and I don't know that you that we as a board could make that on behalf
of the homeowner. Um, I feel like the homeowner might have to be involved to do that. >> Find out more before you have the public hearing from the state of course >> to tell you what specifically things that you can do and can't do. Because
what I got out of that presentation >> was that you guys have the final say, >> right? >> You only have so much money to spend. Yeah. >> Even though those are diff there's three different categories that the application must fall under.
>> True. >> Doesn't mean that all three categories will even get any money. It depends on what comes before them for a project. Let's say just for an example, this is not going
to happen. Let's say for an example, uh the town hall is a historic building. >> Mhm. >> And it has not been renovated in over 25 years, >> but it needs renovation work done. And that turns out
to be $100,000. >> Oh. They may have the the right to decide that's where our money needs to go this year. >> It doesn't have to be distributed equally among them. >> No, but they're giving you the
guidelines of what categories it falls into. >> We'll go into right above the word project. >> Okay. I don't think it can be an individual. Oh, it would be nice to have that little thing or this person needs a septic system. No, there's there's other
programs that you can go for that. That's not what this is, >> right? >> So, they're targeting more of a publication >> when you're trying to fix, like you said, somebody or their replacement windows. This is more of the tax dollars
to get a certain thing done. This can >> this can be an avenue where we could get those we as a town could get those things. Yes. That's the mindset of it. >> Yeah. >> Do we have somebody that does any grant writing for us in HTC
for people as a homeowner? >> We can use for a homeowner. No, I mean HCC could use the grant writer, the town grant writer because we're a town. >> We don't have a grant writer anymore. Karen is
>> wait a minute. What what is um it is it is part of his current >> duties. Okay. So we do >> we can use >> that was just a curiosity question because it's nice to see the revenue that is being generated for
whatever public application is needed like Lori just said if it's $100,000 we need to do restoration on town hall instead of them sending out five little laws
>> the money is absolutely grant money 100% out of historical England out of the past historic out of all these different places >> and yeah absolutely the grant writers sure knows about it >> and then right like we could choose to
distribute money over a fiveyear period >> they have that >> they have that right >> so there we can be creative there's other grants that can be achieved so yeah it's just a matter of learning >> so we have to go to that meeting >> just
hear more more. >> It's a positive thing for the town. >> Yes, it is. >> I've just been taken back by some of the grants that my friend's farm is being able to write or everything from equipment replacing old apple crates,
the plastic ones now. Everything changing from oily to propane. I mean, incredible amount of money. He's got one individual that does all this grant writing and it's phenomenal what he's been able to do. >> All right, let's go. Let's do this.
Gloriously. >> So, we're gonna now Thanks very much, Correct. >> Uh, this July, I think we can start using our administrative. Are you talking to >> Okay. We haven't done anything with her. >> Where are you going to right now, Mary?
I was gonna go to discuss the violation of fine skip. We did that already. We didn't take a vote last time. >> That was complete, right? It >> only took us three meetings to do it. >> That's like three years. >> So, and then in so in the in your next
minutes, you'll have what it is. We voted on >> the 15. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, you have a print out of the schedule for everyone. And I think it should be on the website. >> Okay. Well, we don't want you to put the light on the door now. In other words,
>> we don't want that on the >> No, we keep that away. >> That's not my job. >> So, now we're going to move down to 10. >> Excuse me. >> I'm sorry. >> Um going on the website only after we've accepted the minutes.
>> Correct. Oh, yeah. Right. Yeah. So now we're going to talk about the next Wait a minute. This isn't right. Yes, it is. Discussion on changing the meeting time. We have people that want to change the meeting. >> Yeah, finally because everybody's here
except Susan. So I would like a motion. No. Do you want to make a motion or do you want to have a discussion? What how do you want to work? >> Well, whatever um people want to do. We I know that it's an issue that people have brought up before and it was not
resolved voted or resolved on and I feel like until that is and I don't know if anybody's heard from Jen but until that is who we missing otherwise >> I don't know that I've met has Susan ever come
>> Jen been here for a long time I've never met >> not since you've been here >> is that because the meeting time doesn't work anyone know >> she used to come >> I I I think we should send her a I mean, >> I want I would really like to get an architect on I really really want I I
think we're lacking that. I >> I mean >> no one had one for a long time, but we could >> Well, I don't think he will commit to anything more with the CPC. He's the chair. Robert, >> he was the one.
>> No, he won't. >> Well, let me ask him what he said. over the >> Yeah. Right. >> But I I mean I would really like to open up a seat for an architect. >> Well, I think there's I'm not sure, but
I think there is a period of time that that you're allowed not to show up. >> But I think right after that time >> at this point maybe a letter should be sent. >> Yeah. >> Kathy, can I ask is that true?
>> What? How do you get rid of somebody on a board? >> Not getting rid of them because I've asked the question before. >> You can send the board the committee can send a letter to them. >> Okay. Because this is an appointed board versus elected. >> Correct.
>> Okay. >> Yeah. If it's elected, >> it was the elective. >> Can I get rid of them? >> I would get rid of Well, I tell you when it's been very annoying where people don't show up and they're elected and then you can't >> commit
You know, if they've never if they've never been sworn in as an elected official, I believe there's an amount of time that you can declare it vacant, but I don't know what the timing is. >> If they've never been sworn in >> exactly sworn in,
>> it's a recall and that would be >> it's a recall, >> right? And we know what that is >> and we don't want to go. >> First of all, let's do a discussion right now. >> I'm gonna run. I really am supportive of whatever the majority wants to do. I
would >> I would accommodate. >> Okay. >> Am I to understand you leaving the the meeting a little early today, >> ma'am? Cuz I have another um I'll beat him up for you. >> It's all right. I can only do as much as
I can do. >> Thank you much. Sorry. I got from >> you're gone by four, so I wasn't worrying. I'm sorry. >> I'm sorry. I tried. Believe me, I try.
>> Um, okay. So, the major who wants to continue the meetings at three every second Thursday? Anybody? >> I want to give you three. >> Okay. So, we have two people. Well, all right. And there would be me three and
then two people who want to change the meeting. Three people >> Jen Jen would be the one. She can't make it anytime on a Thursday cuz she works. >> Um but she's you know I don't know how we're supposed to communicate. She
>> Okay, let me first of all she's an alternate so it doesn't matter. >> It does. >> I think she No, I mean what I'm saying is No. That's not >> You know what I'm saying? I need a quorum. If I have a quorum, I don't need an alternate. Kathy comes because she
wants to be kept a breast of what's going on. >> Well, I think Jen would like to is my point. Um, so that's my It's not just about Jen. Um, I feel as though it's difficult to communicate with this group. And when I tried to communicate,
I sort of got my hand slapped, which was frustrating. All I want to know is what works for everybody individually. So clearly we know you two like 3:00. I just felt it's a good idea to open it up and ask you what what do you like?
>> I I you know where I stand on this. It's just meetings have always been structured for people on a volunteer basis at the end of the day at the end of their responsibilities. >> You have children? >> Yeah, I do. But my children are in
sports this time of year. So for example, if you were to meet at 6:00, I think 7 would be safe. 6:00 for me, I'm still at volleyball, soccer, lacrosse. So I'm I don't want people to change it just for me. You know what I mean? Or
just for Jen. So at this point, I'm a little frustrated by the conversation and I just want to say forget it. That's how that's where I'm at. >> I don't want to say forget it. I think what I'm saying why didn't you hear Mary Jane is that you have some of your commissioners that are here for you they
want to be here but there it's strike there is a little bit of difficulty with getting the kids to sports getting you know on and on it goes so what I think and I feel to bring the meeting to 6 or 7:00 would be better it
I think it's important to listen to your people do the best we can to get them to the table and everybody working together, but where we have four people that it's difficult for it to be at 3:00. I'm
retired and I have plenty of time and 3:00 is difficult to me. I I cut my day short today. Doesn't matter. I'm committed to this. But when it comes to kids and sports, you can't cut, you
know. I think that's important to bring the younger people in. You know, I think >> to that I support I don't think we'd get a lot of other people in my situation who would make the sacrifice to be here at 3:00 in the afternoon. That's all I
use. >> I do agree with your job early. >> Oh, 100%. I sacrificed, but that's my choice and I'm able to do it because of the flexible schedule. >> Well, just so everybody knows, I work full time also and I sacrificed to come here today because I made the commitment
to be on, but I knew what the time was when I to be on the committee. So, so I don't want to get on a committee and then whine because it's not good for me. >> So, I understand it would be helpful for for you also to have
>> No, I've made I've made my piece with it. I've been on this for so long. >> Can I say one thing about Jen? I She I know her. I don't think she'd be upset with me speaking for her. When I talked to her about the difficulty of her getting here Thursday at 3, she said, "I
put that on my application." >> So, I don't think she could have even been elected >> because we had no idea. So, I'm not going to say she said she let me just as a chair, let me tell you how this all happened. >> But can I back up and just actually
finish my sentence? So, >> with that said, she would be fine moving to the historic the other one, the society. >> Exactly. >> So, let's just tell her she should do that and then we can find another alternative who's an
>> agree%. And I was going to just bring that up. When she contacted me, she contacted me through the historical society. Everybody should know this. >> She was confused as everyone is. >> Yeah. >> She wanted to be either on the society or the commission.
>> So, I responded to her because I believed that she would have been a better shot for the society >> with the tie me up for sure. >> And I sent an email to that. >> She'd be fine with We the problem is Maria we the board were never allowed to
vet you James or Jen we did not we were not extended that >> or Lauren >> yeah we did not have that so we never made those decisions so anybody saying anything about what we did is way off base you guys were
>> I'm not saying that you did anything I said she told me she put the 5:00 on her >> well that they're not talking to the right person cuz I didn't do it >> you didn't see Nope. >> So, let's Can we agree to invite her to join the other group then? >> When you say the other group, you talk
about historic >> historic society. >> Sure. You're on it. Well, we're all on it. >> Well, for now, >> I'm not I'm not not that I'm aware of. >> Does that go hand in hand? >> No. >> No, it doesn't. It's actually very confusing.
>> No, I'm not on. >> So, that that that's not a problem. And all she has to do is just send a letter and say that I'm sorry. I'm not going to be able to sort on the board. >> Yeah. >> Two second ordeal. >> Okay. Well, I'm happy to. >> And then Kathy, what do we do with that? >> Communicate that. >> Well, you know what? Why don't we just
bring in an application and do you see the general? >> I know her. >> All right. Well, why don't we just bring her in an application and then she can just fill it out. >> Well, why don't we just give her name? >> She has an email. We could do that. >> We could do that. >> I don't think we should be in any way.
>> No. All right. do that and I'll in the meantime send her a note. >> Okay. Okay. That's great. >> Yeah. >> Bible and that nothing to do with the meeting time. >> Okay. >> Jen, Madam Chair.
>> Yes. >> Can you still try to work it out when you get the meeting? >> You can change. >> You can. So, I understand you want to do a late night meeting. And I understand that the other half does not want to do late night meeting including me because we have other meetings. I mean you have
been 7:00 meetings at >> you know we all have >> I have three other meetings. >> Yeah. So do I. I know. >> So I think we can go the alternative is that we can go back to the original plan. We only meet when we have to.
Originally when I came on the board you >> Oh god. Yes. I mean, it's only been I did it. I did it when I when I took over as commission chair. >> I put a date and time specific because I
felt that there were issues that we had to address. We wanted >> the fines like the fines the postcards and we weren't doing that. >> But h but things have gotten accomplished since. >> Well, thank you. >> Yeah. So, >> we don't have to keep it that way. I
just wanted to get stuff done. >> I think it makes sense to keep a monthly meeting. >> Yes. I think I get off track with that. >> If I lose my routine, >> I I mean, I say we stay consistent with our meetings every night.
>> I mean, let's try to see if we can meet halfway with the understanding of it would be so much easier for us younger kids. >> Excuse. Do you know what a QR code is? very
environment with it tomorrow. >> How to use the QR? >> All right, let's stay on target. I got to leave at 4:30. >> Um, so so you want to change the day, you want to change the time, you want to change the place, and then what do you want to
change? >> I don't want to change anything. I know what the day is. >> Maria and James, >> you're talking to each other. >> No, no, no. But no, let's hear what they have. Okay, cuz you're I understand where you are. You want to stay right here. >> Yeah. >> 3:00 on second Thursday of the month.
>> I already spoke my mind. I'm kind of done. I told you I don't care anymore because I don't I don't see this getting worked out. >> I not want to see her frustrated and I do not want to lose her. >> But I'm going to show people besides her
on the board, too. >> Me. >> Yeah. Well, I mean, >> and but potentially a new alternate that we replace Jen's position with, you know. So maybe we wait and get their opinion. I don't know. >> Let's bring it to 7:00 on a trial period. >> Friday night 7:00. That's the only other
night I've got open. >> And I resigned. >> For what night? >> Well, we have a vote. I mean, you you vote. No, >> you don't want us. >> Well, I can't do Friday nights 7 night.
Me either. >> All right. Well, that's what >> forget that >> recommending. >> No, you didn't. You didn't say Friday night. >> I'll have wine. You said Friday. >> I said Thursday. >> It's Saturday. >> Wow. >> I have meetings on Tuesday, Wednesday,
Thursday. >> I have a volunteer thing that I do on Thursday night on Thursday night. And I have on Thursday night. Okay. So, that won't work. >> Tuesday night. Yeah. Thank you.
Monday night, Jerry has water. >> Oh, yeah. That's right. You have water. >> You have water. >> How about How about 8:00 Saturday morning with precaution? >> Oh, I'll be at soccer. So, anyway, um
>> So, you got Monday, Tuesday, Thursday. >> To me, it's a dead issue. I mean, I don't know what I don't know why nights are tough because of the fact that most of us are already committed to other meetings.
>> I know. I know. I agree. But I think it's kind of a conundrum because I don't want to lose Miss Scumpy and for sure I don't want to leave. I just that's unacceptable. >> Well, we're not a scheduling thing. >> I'm not going to leave. I am making it
work and going forward you might have the same situation with >> well new let me tell you how that how that won't happen okay because we will vet >> and that will be one of the questions we'll have is this conflict for you and
had we been able to vet all of you who are not happy with this date and time >> we would have asked that question and we would have taken care of that >> before you even got on the >> well the point of bringing it up was to express our feelings on the meeting
time. That's all. >> That was my only reason for bringing it up. >> Yeah, you absolutely. And I'm not saying that it's not always going to be this way, >> right? >> But we can change. >> I think you have to consider the situation that we're in. If we didn't have this choice,
we would have vetted you. Well, not you specifically, but anyone to the time. I mean, that was obviously one of the questions we would have had that wasn't considered by the people that >> put you on a board >> and and it was unheard of and unprecedented that you weren't that embied. >> I don't know anything about that. I
remember coming to a meeting and sitting before everybody and saying, "Why?" >> I don't remember anything. >> I came to a meeting. I sat at a table. >> Well, they weren't vetted. >> I did an application. >> Yeah, but you weren't vetted by us. You were we >> I don't know what you mean by vetted. I
was bed before I got >> What does that mean? >> It means that they asked me to be in >> I was as well. I was as well. I was asked why I wanted to be on the board. I filled out an application. I don't know what you mean. I came so was it with the
board of selective. >> Um yeah >> because that's the difference. So the way it's supposed to work >> is you fill out a volunteer application. >> I did that. and the board that you want to join will look at the applications
because there may be more than one for one application. >> And you're saying that wasn't done cuz I filled out an application. You looked at my application. >> I don't know. >> So the board of select and went directly to them and they appointed without discussing anything.
Not my I mean I not saying it's your fault. We're saying that the the whole thing was not done according to the rules and now we're asked to change what we've always done.
>> In what way? By me saying that 3:00 is hard to get to a meeting for. I just told you I'm fine with leaving it. No, she's but but that's that's not a fighter. >> I'm not a fighter. >> I'll make a motion.
>> Are you going to cut the next meeting? >> Well, isn't it? >> It's on your agenda. That's the only I'm asking for. >> So, let's just confirm. >> Isn't it the 24th? >> We're having a meeting on the 24th. That's the public hearing ever.
>> But then there's an agenda though with have a meeting. I can do every I can I can do an agenda for the 24th. >> Why don't we meet at the >> I thought you were going to so that you could give them the application. >> Oh, no. I'm going to have a meeting and then do the public hearing within that
meeting. Right. >> Yes. And I would like to do the application and get it off the plate. >> Right. >> And if you want other issues, I can put them on there if you want to do that and then just not have a May meeting, which I'm fine with doing. So, normally the May meeting would have
been on the 14th, correct? Correct. >> We have something happening on the board that we were >> May. >> Yeah. >> My son has a lacrosse game, so >> um when So, we just call the next meeting 4:24. Is that what we're doing? I get that. Yeah.
>> And then 3:00 is going to stand for the moment. >> Well, 3:00 is Yeah. For the moment, because that's what time we're going to do the >> In other words, this is still going to be left up to debate to try to work out. >> Well, you know what? Maria said she doesn't fine with it. I'm kind of done
arguing about the time. >> We're not arguing. Why are you saying argue? >> I feel this is an arguing situation. We know when the meeting is Jerry made the motion to adjourn. >> No. When I make a vote.
>> Yes. All right. Jerry has James >> on what? The vote to change the to >> on the protest. Yes. >> James will be >> Maria Milikin. Yes. I do want to end the meeting.
>> Michael. Yes. >> Okay. Thank you, Lord. >> And our next meeting, we do updates and discuss >> how nice the work is being done by Ben down at the harbor, the C bridge and >> and the work that we're doing >> because it's all part of the historical
commission. It's all >> the society society certain HDC is >> No, we stay out of it 100%. >> 150%. >> We have >> Well, the only the only building that would come into HDC anyways is the church.
>> Correct. >> So, the owners don't come under the HTC. >> I thought you did a wonderful um explaining of what CBA was. So that was very blue issue. >> Well thanks considering I know you had
hesitation. >> I did have well I knew I could you know be up for the test so I appreciate you saying that. Thank you. >> That was very good. Thanks.