432. Um, like a copy of our agenda. We're not going to be able to do business because we don't have a quorum. Um, but we can certainly have a discussion.
Uh, and hopefully somebody in the public may hear this. Um, my name is Laura Shipron and I will call the meeting to order of the Towns and Properties Committee on Monday, June 16th at 4:32 p.m.
Uh, the meeting of a roll call. Well, we have a uh just uh Kevin and myself are here at the moment. Um, the meeting is being recorded and will be posted to YouTube.
Is anybody else recording? Um I think is that Sandy Lord that's on with us? She's not acknowledging but that looks like who it is. Um, so what we were going to discuss tonight
and um I just want to put this out there is uh the reappointments to the town properties committee and per the charter um and I'm not going to quote the charter but I will say the positions that are on
um this committee is a rep from the board of assessors, a rep from finance committee, a rep from conservation committee, a rep from the highway department, and a rep from planning board. So those four are
assigned per the charter. You do not have to be a member of those boards to be a representative of that position. So um I know that we will be looking for by the way we don't have anything in
writing. some of the people are not continuing on. Um so we are going to be looking for people to volunteer for those positions. There's also two at large members. Um
one of whom may be resigning. Um and I myself was the planning board rep and the planning board will have to decide who's going to be representing them. Um,
we need to have because it's a seven member board, we do you do need four for a quarrel and we only have two of us here. Um, Kobe, you have joined us this evening. Um, did you want to discuss
anything with us? I was here to listen at least to the review list of of town properties. Okay. Um I can go get it. It's not updated. Um
updated since the auction, you mean? Yeah, I'd have to pull some of those off because they were just highlighted on my list until it actually went through. Okay. Um, well, let me quickly just say that over the last two years,
Kevin's been on a long time, so have I. Um, and so I can go back a couple of decades, actually, and say that um, town properties didn't meet a lot, but I'm going to say at least once a
year, you know, if not twice. And we used to meet uh every couple of months for for years. Well, I we used to order a lot of the property out. Yeah. Okay. Ellen, the last two years. Last couple of years, we've gone down to a couple of times a year.
Go ahead. Yeah. We also had two auctions to get some of the property that we've been working on for years. Yeah. Ready to auction off, which there has been an auction in the last two years and uh two auctions. uh one last year and one just
recently. And what we what we've got co is we've got some pieces of land that they're not going to I don't they'll be able to go to auction. One piece is that piece that I think we briefly talked about that piece
of I don't quote me on this. Cherry Lane. Is that where the frontage is? Yeah. Yeah. Right. The dead end or Cherry Lane. Yeah. It's a originally 25 years ago or 20 plus years ago, we
actually slated that property. That that property is pretty dry. We actually slated that potential future wreck area, maybe skateboard park, something like that. Well, and over the years the I think the be group decided
they want to make that their home and uh they've kind of I think about half of it's underwater. What I I haven't walked it recently. Did you Did you walk walk it? No, I've just seen on looked at it on maps. It's about 50% wet as well.
Yeah. Other than that. Yeah. Yeah. It's in that area. Yeah. Well, just so that you know then the next time we do meet if you want to go take a look at that cuz we will also be looking the the goal will be to
not have any townowned property. So it's either like last time we did a few to conservation two or three last time and then before that we've also given to the housing trust. Um,
I think there's a few more pieces before we're done. Yeah. That will fall under conservation jurisdiction. Okay. One being I think when we finally work out the bugs of that Dudley Road piece. Yeah.
Possibly that piece. Um, there's I think there's a piece over in that neighborhood, Cherry Lane. That's there's another lot. I think it's a halfacre piece or something. Nobody nobody's buying it. And um there's a
there's a few over there. I don't know if any of those any of those are but that piece. I don't as I recall really going back down memory lane. One of them does I think. I'm not sure but one of them I think does. You know the list isn't is that it isn't as long as it
used to be. No. So maybe could you give the list to Colby? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. And then anything and then we'd have you come back with your opinion maybe at at the next meeting that I think it started when I went on some
almost 30 years ago 25 anyway at the inception when they formed the town properties committee I think there was some 53 parcels. Yeah. We've narrowed that down now more that cut it in half. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. We're down to one more probably 15 left.
Right. 1520 but most of it vacant. Yeah. Um the other big thing would be the heart library. Yeah. Um it's an interesting one. Yeah. Techful way to put it. Um so this past
Saturday uh we had the economic forum at the meeting hall at the library and we did not have a large attendance but we have
um the the uh individual from planning did attend and um he was very participatory as he was on planning um before he had to resign. Um but he's very active in this and in fact
presented a plan not at the meeting but after we had all the discussions he presented this plan that I have sent to Beth um to please share with planning board and um there was past selectman that came and
also a new uh zoning board uh the chair I think it is came and um it was really interesting. I mean, we actually got excited about things around the table. So, it was really good. And when this
plan was sent to me, it encompasses every single department and every board or almost, but really um getting input from historic society um conservation
uh planning of course and um it just might be interesting if anything that we had left might be able to be incorporated. So the heart li library library was bought up that it should be
sold and even though we went out for bid many years ago um it was done with like an RFP or conditions like they'd sell it for a dollar but it was conditioned so rather than
the it was offered for a suggestion that rather than it being RFPD or anything like that. Go to auction and whatever it brings it brings and it's asis now I and I checked with you or Vicki to
make sure that it was not in historic. So it may be a historic building to us. I know but it's not in that then it's not it's not why it's not or how it could not not have been but it is not it is not the the one of the problems with that which
would end up being the buyer's problem um would be the fact that it's tied into the town hall septic system and doesn't have it how that's going to work future because it was
the when the River Bank is right off the back side of the building. The the conservation restrictions on it are going to come way up into the parking lot. The only little piece of land that goes with it to put a septic system is going to be
right next to the road and very close to the building. I don't know how that's going to work. I didn't tight tank. it. I I that's one possibility, but you'll never get anybody to buy it with a tight tank because unless they own a separate tank company, they'll be pumping every
week or two. Uh I don't know why. I don't know how I don't know how that's going to go. That's going to be a glitch to try to work through that goes cuz conservation is going to be
Yeah. as a conservation member and then having the agent present. Um, that's going to be a tough one to do to try to get a subject in there. I mean, it's got to be something that can be able to be put in there. Um, but it's not going to
be much. Well, we as a town right now cost us money because we're not making any tax dollars on it. No, I I but we as a town don't have the money unless there's grant money out there somewhere
to renovate that or even clean it up. Number one, between the mold and the asbestous, you know, and then then to have to deal with the um title five. I know one I thought they were going to do something. They were hoping to do something with the building
and with wreck over there, but I guess wreck is settled into the bank building as I'm referring to the bank building and uh I guess that's where the that's where they don't stay. There are grants available but they come with matching requirements. We don't have matching.
Yeah. It's about 10% that they um um been working on for it. Um through Massachusetts Preservation Fund or best it's
through the CPA. Us through the Massachusetts Historic U Association for But for what purpose? For what purpose? For renovating the building. For renovating a building. Really? Yeah.
It has to be on the National Historic Registry though. That's how I found out that it was not wrong. Oh, cuz it has to be on the historic. Yeah. In the Oh, would it be eligible for any of the Oh, I got you. very low just not a
huge process but yeah as a well I'm putting that out there because we need to we need to think about that it's been a long time and the just having
all the mold fester up in there how much of the land there is I'm trying to recall that property line between the house to the left side of the library building. There's a small parking area there that I believe it goes with the library. It does. It does
not belong to the yellow house. Small. How much of a septic system could be put in there? I guess something. I mean, it depends on what somebody wanted to use the building for. If somebody was going to, you know, if if the town auctions it off and somebody buys it once converted
into a home, a single family home, then there's probably a receptic system in there. somebody wants to convert it into an office space or something that would probably fit building better. I don't know how that would how that's going to fly whether you know it's always been a
shared septic system much though with an office than you would with a home. Correct. You know, I know it's always had a shared septic system with it al I don't know. That's that's that's a board of health question. Board of
health question. Now it's a town It's a town of town question because of now you got a a private what's going to become a private building privately owned building. Didn't you just do something with the septic here at this for this building?
No. Not that I'm aware of. No. I mean they have to have it. This a big se this is a big septic system here. It's this whole area right over here. And I think and part of the thing years ago when we were when the properties
committee was formed, we bought that property out back here. So we didn't own it. But one that little back grass backing area, wasn't a house moved from there or something? Yes. And that was it moved. Yes. And that was uh that property was
bought for a future expansion of this building, a septic system for this building or at the time that building as well and the bank building. What sense if that property goes? I
don't know. I guess just sell it. See what happens. Wait a little bit. You know, hopefully some kind of a septic system could be designed for it. You know, you've got a lot of conservation issues on that because of its proximity to the to the river. Technically, that would be a 200
ft setback. 200 ft puts you over on this side of a road. So, that doesn't fly. Then you go back to 100. 100 really doesn't fly. So now you're going to be as a as a as far as conservation goes, you're going to be
looking at pre-existing non-conforming grandfathered site as you're probably going to be hoping for 50 off the off the river bank and maybe a septic system at that point. States's got to approve it because it's uh
it's it's pre-existing. It's on the line. It's a pre-existing one, I should say. They've got to let you design something. So I guess if they're going to auction it off, they should get it on the dock to go against. So is going to be the
responsibility of the South and engineering the responsibility of the owner, I guess, unless you leave it as is and try to get fees fees as town town water town sewer. Well, for using the town septic, right?
Leave it as is and then that might be that might be a valid option. Well, the water you could separate, right? Well, the water is separated now. But I'm saying if you tied it in. So, I was saying it's town. Good idea. And leave it as is. And then you'd have to Well, separate the town. The town already has
a separate water service into that building. What they don't have is But you could again create maybe a fee in order to go with that. So, they wouldn't have to. They could based on based on water volume. Exactly. Um, I'm sure something could be set up because
like I say when we bought the property out back that is 200 ft from the river and 200 ft from the river over across the road. So that was when we did that, we were
looking forwards enough to for any expansion that would be necessary for this building as well as a new septic system could be put on that lot. That's a sand lot. It's all sand and gravel. You know, we'll
take us up a big system there. Yeah. If this in the event this one failed at some point, right? I was just thinking for that building if you put parameters on it like a office would be less than a residence. So then or a studio, right? Or
something. Everybody was talking about art at work and some kind of artist place. But I remember that being thrown around 10 years ago, years ago, you know, and it never took shape because the back then the cost to doing that if
you gave the building away for a dollar to that consortium of people that wanted to form that art, whatever it is, ABC art gallery, I don't
know. Um it was the the prohibitive the costs were prohibitive to do the uh remediation in the building and I think at that point they just grew legs and ran away. See so that's like
how do we get help with the asbestous and the mold? That's the hard part because it's not deemed a historic building. It would be easier for the town to continue owning that building if it was deemed a historic property because at that point
the town would be eligible for for the grant monies to come in and remediate the asbestous and remediate the whole and with the right funding put all the detailed woodwork back into place that's
there which is which is which is nice. put the agents on that because the the town hall is historic. Y in historic district in the district is just not historic
building. It's not deemed a historic building. Yeah. And I have no idea why. I don't know either. Let me go look and see what the Because the age of that building was I don't know. That's what that's I just asked her.
So that sure the bank is to say about that too. The bank that used to be a bank. Yes. The bank though. And then it used to also be the town clerk's office. Correct. And the
assessor's office at one time. That was used as the tax collector's office. when the bank gave the building up that was I believe that was was either Union National Bank and Towns or Towns and National Bank I can't what it was but
Joe Sherwood the guy that lives just the next place just before the crest of the hill before Fest Rob Fest is the greenhouse in G right the house before that was was Joe Sherwoods he was actually the president of that bank back when it was a little
tight cuz our family used to do business with him is the Vessenton house and historic. Well, that's down there. I don't I don't know. I'm not talking about the house. I'm talking about the bank building. That's just where Joe lived. He lived in that white house just
before fees going to crest over the hill. Okay. Before you get to Chucky, um that building uh he was he was actually president of that bank. Well, that's kind of that's a that's a
tough that's a tough one. Maybe it's old enough now it should be under the historic. It's a sad It's sad thing to see the building. Yeah. Pieces. But I just don't know what the
the town could ever do with it. want nothing because we don't have any money to do anything with it. What would you do with it after, you know? Yeah. Okay. Well, we're just throwing it out there again.
Yes. Yeah. Well, be better off if it's no chance of it ever being a future town building. And I don't see the need for it because if the town was ever going to expand, they might as well expand this building, right? you know, over in the corner. So, you know, if they needed
more space, I think not as old. 1928 48. Oh, so it wasn't 38. Would that be the same? And I I don't mean to make you get up or the bank building is the same. Oh,
I think the bank building's older. I think it is, too. But I'll double check. Well, how old is this building? 1890. It was It's 18 I'm going to say. Yeah. 90, but then that the the renovation was in the 1990s.
Oh, the original the original was in. Yes. Yeah. Let me check on my So, in reference to the economic forum, just to mention again for anybody who happens to be watching, besides the fact we're looking for volunteers, they're they're going to be putting together the
first round after this round of the surveys and what we came up with for ideas. And so then we're going to have another we're going to try to have another forum and do another survey. And hopefully we get to something
of how to promote towns in tourism and hopefully draw new business into town as well as people who will shop in town. Business still
both commercial industrial. The bank's 1915 the rack building and town halls 1894. 195 in 1894. Yeah, approximately. Building. Okay. Well, um what would you propose?
Um, you're going to be sending out, we probably should do a posting because now we're at June 16th. So, we probably should do a posting for all the positions as of July 1st to June 30th of
20. Um and then because there's two at large positions and then all the department heads of a five. We down now to a four member
board today. We will be shortly. It could be five. I'm not sure. I I think Bill Martin wants to stay on. That's what he said. um he just couldn't come today. Um I have to look into him a little bit more. Bill actually started
with me. Yeah. He was one of the first members. She was one of the original founding members of the Broadway school. Oh Bill and I. Vita Collins. What's her name from the what's her name from the assessor's office? No no
Audrey Taylor. Temple. Audrey Temple. I'm sorry. Audrey Temple. Yeah. We were the original ones. I didn't know Audrey was on it. Okay. So then she had Jod's position. She used to run. Oh yeah, I know. I know. She used to run back and forth 100
times a night cuz we had so much at the time when we started it. And then we were trying to um we worked pretty hard trying to figure out an expansion for a few we were trying to look down the road
future expansions for things like um that would acres the piece across the street trying to make a deal with the state trade. So yes, the town had was that at the time you authority. Yeah. Yeah. We were trying to get we had a nice piece of land out on 13 that was
surrounded by state and we were thinking about trying to do something with them at good Collins. I remember his presentation to the business association down at NES. He wanted he we really felt that the the town needed more light industry
commercial business and and um it just it never materialized and what you ended up with housing and 2.37 kids and you know whatever it ended up being. So,
do when do you think might be a better day of the week or time to, you know, hold a meeting? If we could get the answers within, you
know, by the first week in June, July, July, if we could get the answers then and do appointments hopefully by the 8th, then perhaps sometime the week of the 14th, so a month from now. And then if you could get us feedback from the
list um for that meeting um and then we could look at some of the other stuff. Where's 182 Warren Road now? Oh, where is it still? Where I know where it is. That is currently
we recommended the board to sell it and then I don't know if it got I'm going to say you were pushed over to the housing of the housing trust. Yeah. Um and then at that point they were looking at it to have it surveyed and break some of the
back because it's like almost 12 acres. So break the back off and because it touches I believe uh state. Yes. And they were gonna offer the back part to the fish and wildlife who are not who are not interested. Okay. That I got out
of Veronica. Okay. And then they were going to look at habitat humanity to see if they would be interested in the park that has the house. Well, part of the problem is that my consensus with the fiscal issues that the town has
instead of giving that donate that lot for habitat for humanity, maybe they should think about selling an auction and picking up what some of them lots bring. What some of them lots bring 75 grand. I think it should go to I think it should go to auction. I think the
only thing with that piece is after speaking to the building commissioner, I don't believe it's buildable. That has self-in self-inflicted. Whoever owned it prior cut off a piece and took away his frontage. So the piece they broke off
has 200 ft of frontage, but this left this piece with 150. Oh. So even though there's a house there pre pre-existing as far as building concerned they're saying no because it was self-reflective. Maybe those people cut that off after zoning in the 70s. Yeah,
they could be. I just like I said when I have asked about that piece repeatedly I have been told by building that's not a buildable piece house there or not because it does not have the frontage and it was well if I have some other it
might have some other potential. Well, then at the end I'll be all I mean. Okay. Well, maybe in a butter we'll buy it. Anything's better that has frontage. Exactly. Maybe that piece right next door and they'll put it all back together. Could be something. I mean, it's
definitely on the tax rules. Exactly. I'm just saying, like I said, I don't know if as it is sits right now, you know how when we just sold the resent batch at the auction, um the building commissioner kind of went through them and said what he deemed would be buildable and not buildable.
That one is a no. But like I said, who knows? As long as as long as you go in fully aware, I guess maybe maybe other options should be looked at. Is there um the lot's got a lot of land. What is But
what if the town owns it through foreclosure or however or taxes tax? Yeah. Um, why can't the town
appeal to the zoning board under pre-existing if cuz we didn't inflict it. No, we didn't. No, I don't know. But I don't know if that would be more suitable for the new owner. I don't know what's
somebody though. Butter. Well, then the butter's not going to care. is not going to get a lot out of it. So, they're not less likely to pay lot value for it. I guess it depends where the is. Yeah, I guess if something
could be I mean, do you think it's worth asking legal counsel? It could be. It could be. I mean, I don't know if um or I could talk to him and find out if he would be opposed to it because Well, you'd have to go
you'd have to go before zoning. Yeah. And you have to ask for a waiver under the under a circumstance or hardship or whatever of the town of the town. What you're saying is that we didn't do that, somebody else did. And then the
town ended up with it and then let the let town council weigh the options, I guess, at that point to to say, "Yeah, there's a yeah, under this ruling you could." And then take it to zoning board. probably no sense of taking that
design to zoning board until you run it by uh Adam to see if it's even something that can be done. Yeah. You know, cuz I mean obviously my point was if you can make that somehow a build of a lot. Yeah. That's a big totally different game. That helps the town a lot more
than just selling it off as as acorage. Yeah. And that way it only have a value to the person on the left side or the person on the right side or the people behind it. So at this point it if the town is trying to get out of people
behind it being the state so if the if the town is is is trying to create dollars then I think that's the direction that I would try. Yeah. It don't matter. Then somebody whoever if it if it's deemed that it can be a bill
of lot then it goes to auction it's going to bring big bigger money but it's going to come to become the responsibility of the buyer. What was the date of the division? What oh how far back? Mhm.
Know how far I can't believe they 1976. Maybe it was only 150 ft of frontage then. It was 100. Well, if it was 100 then then that the the law would still be grandfathered, right? I don't think so. I I I can go look at it. Let me see. 182 182 and see if I can see. It's just
a possibility. It's one of those pieces that that you know could get cleaned up and get back on the tax rules. I have a question for you if you don't mind. That's we're here for you tonight. All right. Yeah. Yeah. For us here. Uh
if the conservation commission was to ask for um properties to be transferred into the care and custody of the conservation commission, would they u should a request be brought here to the property commission or to the court?
Well, we recommend so it would come to us first and then we would make a recommendation and we'd send it upstairs to the select me. Okay. Believe town council would take a look at it. Everybody that had any skin in the game
would take a look at it. And that particular piece of property I that you're referring if you're referring to the piece that we discussed earlier or some of the others as well. There are some other pieces that I believe we talked about conservation. Yeah. You know, and as far as I'm concernly not
buildable. Yeah. As far as I'm concerned, my take on it is anything that's not buildable, not sailable. If it's not buildable, it's not salailable. It's offered to the people either side of it, they don't want it, that the town's stuck with it, and it's
wet. Put it into the care of conservation because lease conservation can oversee what's going on. like people dumping trash on it, people using it when they shouldn't be or using it in a manner that they should be. Not that they should be, but using it in a manner
that they shouldn't be. And at least that way there's a little bit of u there's a little bit of u policing on some of our lands that we don't have that we haven't had in the past. Has the town considered or have they done any
logging on the properties that they have logged? Oh, the town owned land. Yeah, we've had we've had timber sales. We've done timber sales and uh on some of our lands, one recent up in um um the housing. Yeah. Up by uh up by uh the
floor farm. There was a piece cut there. There was a piece recently cut down behind the cemetery in West Towns and and I believe that might have been Town. I think that was Town. We do a little bit of timber harvesting
from time to time on some of the town lands. Um, how much money does that bring to the Doesn't bring a lot, but it brings stuff in. It's It's 10,000 here and 10,000 there. It's It's dollars. Yeah. So, you're
saying possibly that there are existing conservation lots that should be timbered? Well, town a couple of the ones that I found on your the list. What's that piece out
back? I haven't walked that piece for years out behind Atwood acres. This one's 180. The one we did. This is the one that was broken off. Possibility. Yeah. This house was not built. I mean, you spent some time in the woods. So, I would say
that house. This is the one that would So, this was part of this. money on the pine. This was broken off and this house size broken off prior to that, but I don't think I know there's some pretty good stuff recently that they got rid of. Um
that was so it helps. You know, anything was kind of help generate all this little but some of these pieces like you say this was the original owner. I'm going to he owned this together. So it would have
been he broke this piece off and whoever owns this. Now I don't know if the current owner somebody is the one who built the house or not go and do something. He might know. I'd have to do more research. Our previous assessments don't go back that far. Oh. So I'd have to do
more research to see. But I don't think it was in the 70s. I think it was more recent than that. Oh, so it's 182 original owner that broke it off and sold the building lot. Yes, that is correct. I'm so How could the town let
him do that? How could planning let him do any pay their lot and uh when he's when he's got a residence there when they'll let him sell the lot, but his residence doesn't meet them minimum requirements. I I there's there's something there's a little uh room for
debate right there as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, like I said on that the note on the 182 warrant says that it's a non build non-buildable lot SE building commissioner is the note on 182 warrant that's why I
said that and then that's the house that the other one right that Lori has in her hand is the one that was built 2004 that was built in 2004 and that was the piece that was broken off and that's like oh that's 20 years ago yeah 21 years ago that's still with still within zoning.
It was after zoning was I mean who they could even if you broke it off prior to that say we took 5 years to build it still is. Yeah. So that was I have a problem with that. I I'd love to bring property that we owned it till the town and and so yeah I just want to cut this
lot off and leave myself short on the other side. That doesn't make sense. I don't know how the town could have approved. I don't know. This was so that would have been approved in 2019 is when we took it I think for that 1823
that law was probably taken off of there in the '9s or something then well the date before when did the town take it 2003 19 how much 2019 he would
been um well the legal transfer the grantor was him meaning that's when the town took it 2019 so six years ago yeah a little uh six years ago I don't think he paid his
he stopped paying his taxes in the oh long prior that the 80s I think it took us that long the town had a lot of uh the town had a lot of those when uh when we started the properties committ They were just sending the people bills every year and some people owed 100
grand on a piece of property and they were dead and gone and no one was around and the and the town wasn't an um wasn't enacting the actual tax taking. Instead, they were just building billing the residents for land and some of them had
been dead and gone. The kids didn't want nothing to do with it. So, they just said, "Hell, we can pay the taxes." Right? And that's how we got some of them. That's why we started with it might even have been 59 pieces, but we started with an awful lot of property and and we've out over the years
and um this was one of them. I think that one sat for a while and I don't remember which for years I think treasure pushed and that's we got that one in 19. Well, but I mean I I I wish I if they
one that would be such a great debt if we could auction off 182 warrant as builder W. Well it's going to bring anything if the trying to generate times of dollars. They're going to have to they're going to have to find a way to to go back and
see if they can't make that something. Maybe I'll add that to the agenda to see. Yeah. Well, once the we establish the property committee, you know what I mean? Um that we want maybe on one of the agenda items is to look at 182
warrant again and ask the CBA to take a look at it and see if they have any suggestions of what another potential if it wasn't all wet would be a small subdivision. So it's got some track. It's got to be
something that little 600 culdeac or something. You looked at it. You wanted I looked at it as a commissioner and uh I looked at it a number few years back cuz you know, but I was wearing my commissioner's hat
and I was looking at it as far as wet goes. Uh and I I felt that that there was a house lock there, but I didn't realize that there was short on frontage. I didn't realize that either. I thought the whole we talked to Stan briefly about 12 acres and you would
have enough to put in a three or four home subdivision. You you don't need that front on the road. You have just a road. I get I get that Lori. That's a possibility as I mentioned a few minutes ago that there may be some potential there for that depending on how much
wets in there and there's some wet up in there may cut it right in half and all of a sudden and all of a sudden you don't have your you you know you're only limited glory as to how much wet you can take out in the subdivision. You can replicate so much after that you can't
now you're now you got a situation where you know you're battling with conservation. Why why don't we just have that on the list for us to talk to you about at the well I say again but if you get a chance and you
can you can cruise it a little bit probably think about the right hand side and I think that running is established kind of sort of there's no residence on the property right now right house.
It's an abandoned vacant abandoned. Actually, I think Lee had it boarded up. Yes, the town had it boarded up cuz there were vagrants living in it. It's already a Yeah, vagrants.
Uh or well, they're casual dwellers. Cas whatever whatever you want to call them. Dwellers. Um all right. So, I'm going to say end our month. I'll also get everything posted
sometime the week of the 14th. Hopefully, we have applicants by the 8th. Yes, because I'll be gone the first week of two week first week and a half in. So, before September. No. Yeah.
September. September. Yeah. Okay. I we'll try I'll try after that postings and I hear back. I don't know if that I mean that's a quick turnaround. I have to see we've got to get on other boards agendas for their blessing for reps. They have
to. Yes. So that's why I'm the posting and department heads to know now and at their next meeting they can have it on their agenda. Yeah. Yeah. Put it out there. put a thing out there, you know, trying to get people to people to Yeah.
come on in and help the town. Yep. We need help. I don't see any wetlands on there, but that doesn't mean there aren't. All right. Is that the piece there? Yeah. Another interesting piece. I think I looked at it. Uh, another interesting
piece here. That's already Isn't that a house? I don't know. I think I might own that one. Uh, no. Oh, I know. No, I didn't. I didn't even own that one. Had a piece down. I saw that, but it wasn't. It was
out on the road. Yeah. Okay. So, right down through the middle of that, Colobby, what do you see? Right through the middle of that. Yeah. Right there. Right there. Contour.
Look at that. See where it comes out of? I'm pretty sure I saw that up in there. See? This right line here. Yeah. Yeah. That's a contour. I imagine there's some kind of connection to the back. I may be wrong, but yeah.
Okay. Well, hopefully we get that in one way or another. Um, okay. So, we're going to meet this sometime the week of July 14th. Y and we have instructions of what we need to do before the end of the month.
And I think that I will, if nobody has anything else, I will adjourn this meeting at 5:20 p.m. Were there any minutes? Um, you can't Yeah, there were vote. Yeah, I know.
Okay. So, they'll be on the next meeting and then this will only be a meeting of discussion and votes. All right. Thank you all very