Move to open the meeting. >> You have a second. >> Second. >> Um I'll do the roll call. Colobby. >> Colby present. >> And uh yes to open the meeting. >> Oh, I thought we did. Sorry. >> Oh, we have to do the roll call for the
opening of the meeting. >> Okay. >> Right. So, we got yes from Colobby Robert. >> Yes. >> And Darlene. >> Yes. >> And I will be yes as well. So, we have um meeting minutes that Darlene posted.
Did anyone get a chance to look at them? >> Um Vicki, I don't I'm not ready to vote on those uh minutes because what but it it references the decisions, the previous zoning board decisions, and I'd like to have those handy to review um
before and they weren't attached to the document. So, if you don't mind, we could put that off to our next meeting. >> Okay, let's move that um to the next meeting. Any uh I don't think we have any issues. Uh so, let's move to the
meat of the meeting, which is the application of De Chanel uh to become an associate member of the ZBA. uh what the process is is we discuss and as a group we then say determine whether or not to
recommend the appointment to the select board and uh they take it from there. So in we did have a previous person who actually was declined by the select board. >> No way. Who was it?
>> Uh what was her name? >> They declined. >> Well, was she was she was she breathing and alive? Yeah, but the problem was and I I guess if I had known this during the discussion, she was applying to be on every basically every board and so there
was, you know, a high possibility of a conflict of interest pretty quickly. So that was their reasoning. >> And just just for the newer board members to let them know this isn't a requirement that the zoning board discuss this. you kind of do it as a
courtesy for the selectman because we our discussion might be appro you know they know whether to recommend or not so and I can speak David's been on the zoning board for many many many years and also I served as select person and what capital planning and some other
things too >> audit committee school committee yeah I've done my share but somehow somebody's been two people gave me a call and asked me to get back into the freight >> you know >> yeah I I actually had it out with Eric Eric about two years ago when the selectman were appointing people without
the the board sort of acknowledgement or even a recommendation and and he says you know it's two lawyers fighting with each other but he says it does this the bylaws don't require it I says I know that he says you and I can argue all day long but it's courtesy and that's what the tradition was been in town for years I says you've been here a year and a
half why are you changing it >> right >> but I mean I will tell you when I was on the board we rejected somebody on the zoning board remember Um I won't mention his his his day but it was a recommendation we and he he had a he had an active case going against the town.
He was a plaintiff in the town and act against the town. So I was like yeah I don't think so. >> Yeah. Right. >> But yeah I've been on I've been on the zoning board. I first got on in November December of 94. Um, I took two years off
in my second when I had my second term as selectman and then Darlene parked in front of in my parking lot at my workplace trying to convince me to come back on and I did and I got and then I got off in um June of 23 and then here I
am. >> Yeah. >> Well, especially if you're on the if you're a selectman, you probably shouldn't be on any other boards, you know. >> I was I was on it for four years. I I I I left I stopped my second my last two years um only because I was going it was
too much. I was doing it I was as a chairman of the board. I thought I should go to a lot of different department meetings and it was a couple nights a week and it was just driving me crazy. >> Right. Yeah. >> Yeah. But yeah, I I I got off at that point. >> Yeah. Well, I've um when I joined I and
in the time I was on the ZBA, I learned an awful lot from David both from how the board works and how the law works as well as how to conduct myself at the meetings. Uh so I would welcome him enthusiastically back on the board.
So, I don't know if Robert or Cole have any questions for for >> No, I welcome uh someone who has experience from being on the board previously and basically being on different town committees, you understand how the town works, what the
issues are or hopefully >> what some of the issues are and uh hopefully we can work together and and move the town forward. That's what I'm looking for. So, >> well, I I understand how the boards in town are supposed to work, although
lately they don't seem to be doing that, but yeah, that's I I do have the background as as Darlene and Vicki do. >> Um Vicki, I don't know if you can see this or not, but somebody has a hand up. It looks like Laura Li, and I'm believing that's Laura Shiff. >> Yeah, Lori got on.
>> Yeah. >> Hi, Lori. Do you have a comment or a feedback question? >> Hi, Lori. Hi. Yes, I do. Um, first I want to say thank you for volunteering
and coming back and lending your expertise. Um, I spoke to an email that went around from Beth to the leadership and I fully understand what you mean about not being able to uh
fill a chairman's position and also on the uh be on the select board. Um, it's very difficult because we liazison to so many other boards. Um and we really appreciate everyone um who
has volunteered um appointed or or elected that um I have never in my 40 plus years seen the um issues
that we're going through now. Um, and I've been on a lot of boards and have just not seen it. I So I totally value everyone who is going to come on and give their experience to those that
are not. Um, I don't I don't really know what else to say now except that things are tough at town hall as well as um around town and uh publicly on Facebook,
which I try to stay off of. >> Good decision. Yeah, it's very difficult to um try to get things done when you keep getting >> bananas and apples and you know all kinds of things. So, um, again, thank
you for your time and, um, appreciate our staff as well, and we're going through, um, um, some agitating times that, um, everyone seems to have rights except us.
>> Um, so I I really appreciate it. can use all the help we can get from those with some common sense and uh the desire to move forward our boards and the issues that come before our boards. So that's all I
wanted to say. Vicki, thank you for letting me speak. >> Oh, thank you. >> Um >> I just want to qualify. I am going on as an associate, right? This is and it's over in June, right? So So >> Oh, well then forget everything I said.
>> Okay, forget it, Laura. Yeah. One step at a time. >> Lori, when's your next select men's meeting? Do you do you know off the top of your head? >> The fifth. >> The fifth. >> Are you appointing tonight? Are you recommending? >> I'm about to make a motion, so I >> Okay.
I just want to make sure Kobe got a chance to >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then and then Yeah, let's do the motion. >> No, I I don't have anything to uh add to the conversation. I I've I've been getting talked up by about your experience and whatnot and you look like
a great candidate, David. >> No, it cost me five bucks a piece, so I thank you for that. >> All right, Darlene. >> All right, I move to recommend to the selectman to appoint David Chanel to the zoning board as an associate member.
>> And we have a second. >> Second. >> Have a roll call. Darlene, >> yes. >> Robert, >> yes. Colby. >> Yes. >> And I'll also be Yes. All right. So, >> Vicki, can I um just make a
recommendation? Beth's not here, so could could you like just make a give her a buzz or an email or something just to make sure that this gets on the select men's agenda for the next meeting? >> Yes, >> that would be helpful. Yeah. >> Can I just say something, please?
>> Sure. I'm being um criticized, critiqued um all the time because of public records requests and how people are making motions and how when you uh ask for a roll call vote
um and you may have done this, but I didn't hear roll call vote included um in the motion, but the people watching all Uh, a lot of the boards and committee videos
are filing complaints left and right. So, you take a roll call vote, you say your name, and you say yes or no. >> I And you know what? I'd like to find out too. I believe this roll call vote started when we went on Zoom and that was the reason behind it. If you're in a
in a meeting in a room, everybody can just say I, you know, yay your name. But um the idea of the roll call vote is to put your name with the vote so people watching can tell. So um you know, we might not say hey Darlene I. But Vicki
is going Darlene and then I respond. So I think that covers the same should it should be the same thing. >> I know who is responding. We we now have to say our name with the motion, our name with the second. And when it's roll
call vote, our name and our vote. >> Yeah, that that's because you're on Zoom. This when CO first came around, the state put out a um administrative guidelines. Um you know, I did a bunch of stuff when I when I was when I was a chair of the um client security board and we had to do all exactly what you're
saying, Laura. But if you're in person, Dar, you don't need that. It's only because of the zoom teams is what we used in the in the court system. >> So darling, do you want to redo the >> except so I have to say my name and I have to say yes with that. Okay.
>> Babe, that applies to hybrid. So if you >> Oh, yeah. Anybody who's not on Yeah. Anybody who's not around. Absolutely. Absolutely. >> Yeah. But if if all members were were in in person at a meeting and you had a hybrid for people to watch, you wouldn't have to do the roll calls as long as all
voting members are present in person. >> Okay, >> good to know. All right. Um Darlene Sedano, yes. >> Robert >> Robert Usula, yes.
>> Colobby >> Colobby Streer. Yes. Victoria Nikki. Yes. >> Thank you, uh, Dave, for coming and joining us. Uh, >> I'll send a message off to Beth to get
this on the selectman's, uh, agenda. >> I think she's on. Says planning board admin. >> Yeah, it just came on. Yeah. >> When's the uh when's the uh hearing for the the uh Brookline property? >> The 19th of November.
>> Okay. So that is in the um so information about that there's a the legal notice is in the folder from today. >> Yeah. >> For the um I signed up just as miscellaneous. So I I signed up there's
a um two-hour class on zoning board and planning board that Beth had sent out. I signed up for it. I think it's next week. So if uh you didn't see that in your email um would recommend for those new newer uh to take that of course I
think >> are are you are you guys doing meetings um strictly Zoom or you doing hybrid or how you doing them >> doing hybrid >> what what's the majority what's what's the majority do is everybody going in or is everybody staying home
>> lately I've been attending in person >> going >> but we don't we haven't had that many meetings. So, >> no, that's been the beauty of the beauty of the zoning board is that it's not a heavy lifted job. I mean, >> yeah, >> when we were doing the 40bs, that that totally >> Oh,
>> I I almost lost the vernacular now. That kind of stunk. >> That was bad. >> And now that accessory apartments have changed and they're uh done by the planning board. >> Yeah, that's the big head. Yeah. >> Really don't have a lot. Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> Good. >> All right. Um, anything else or do we have a motion to wrap up? >> Yeah. What What was it? What was the hearing on the Brooklyn property again? Just to make sure. >> It's the 19th. >> 19th. >> Remember? Yep. >> And they your meetings always start on
the at 6:30 or they go to 7:00 or what? >> Uh, we usually we start at 6:30. >> 6:30. Okay. >> Uh, usually the we'll open the hearing at 6:35. >> Okay. I I check my calendar to make sure. Okay.
Thank you. Right. >> Motion to adjourn the meeting of 10 29 for the zoning board of appeals. >> Say your name. >> I have to say my Oh, you're right. You just said that. Yeah,
I'm not used to that. Yeah, I apologize. >> At the beginning or the end, does it matter? >> It's just identifying your name to your person. >> All right. I Colobby Streer make a motion to adjourn the meeting zoning board of appeals meeting of 10:29.
>> Darlene Sedano seconds. >> Robert Uselli. Yes. >> Colobby. >> Kobe Strereer. Yes. >> Darlene. >> Darlene. Yes. And Vicky Janiki. Yes. All
right. Well, thank you all.