it is 5:30 and that is what we're posted for good evening uh good evening everyone I will call the meeting to order of the joint select board meeting on February 4th 2025 at 5:30 p.m. roll call vote please jica call Pres always say
that and present uh can I just go ahead with mine or just is he John has to call his meeting okay all right then if I if you with your Indulgence Madame chair I'll I'll call a meeting of the uh committee to appoint the towns and representative to the nooba Valley Technical School District committee uh to be open and all those president of the Comm please uh acknowledge their
presence John Barrett William Berg and uh technically uh lri and uh Veronica you are members of the committee too I know it's a very weird thing but the committee consists of the moderator the selectman and the towns and representatives to the north middlex school committee
so okay and Veronica Cal here okay okay and on our appointments we have 2.1 as 5:30 so I will except for saying that um we are being recorded and the meeting is going to be uploaded to YouTube and is there anyone El who is recording if you are please state
so there is none okay we have another arrival this um so I'm going to go right to 2.1 which is our joint meeting which we have just called to order um and it is to appoint Harrison May to Thea Valley Technical school committee
as townsman alternate representative effective February 4th 2025 with the turn to expire March 31st 2027 is there a motion so moved and there is a second second okay any discussion hearing or seeing none I will ask for a roll call
vote start with John Barrett I and Willie your your hand is up yeah yes I just uh Mr Hackler um who's also a member of the uh school committee with me with uh me uh I thought he was going to be on I don't know if we if we needed that him or we had a quorum to vote we have a quorum because of the two us being I guess repres presented on your
board as well so per the town moderator who's an attorney right all right very good very good okay that my vote is yes okay and Veronica C yes and Laura shiff yes congratulations thank you for volunteering thank you I look forward to representing the town okay thank you very much thank you Harrison uh do you want to adjourn your joint meeting yeah I I don't believe we
uh we have minutes available right now I think that's the only other thing we we might have had but um I don't believe we have those so I think there's no other business for the commi committee to appoint the towns and representative to Thea Valley Technical High School I would entertain a motion to adjourn our meeting so moved okay so there is a motion and is there a second from your committee I I guess seconded for the purposes
but all right motion's been made and seconded to to uh adjourn the committee uh's meeting um all those in favor say I I I you need a roll call vote please a roll call vote okay roll call vote uh Mr Berg yes okay Miss shiffrin yes Miss Kell yes and myself
yes okay thank you very much okay thank you folks have a good evening you too 535 The Joint meeting call our meeting to order start at the top after whatever this is yeah okay hello everyone this is Laura shiff I'm going to be calling the meeting the continuation um well it's not the
continuation we adjourned a joint meeting and we are now going into just the uh selectman's the select boards meeting at 5:36 pm on February 4th 2025 could I have a roll call Veronica Cel prent Laura sh present would you all join me in the Pledge of Allegiance please I PL Al to the flag of the United States
of America and to the Republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible with liy and justice for all I would like to thank all of our veterans and all of our military currently serving may they stay safe and all of our First Responders could I give a thank you as well yes um you know I would like thank the the hardworking Folks at um the
highway department parks and um cemetery and the facilities department for all the hard work they do and you know clearing you know the parking lots the sidewalks and the road so that you know everyone can navigate the road safely so I I thank you for their hard work it's not glamorous you know they're working all hours of night while we're you know safely in bed asleep so I really appreciate all the work they do and I just want to thank them for for that
great thank you Nelson for saying that Veronica did you want any anything nothing to add tonight no thank you I'd like to recognize uh Dave and John Hayes for being here with us tonight and I don't see anybody else online um so again this meeting is being recorded and will be uploaded to YouTube and is there anybody else recording the
meeting see anybody else or hear that um 1.4 Chairman's additions or deletions in the desk of the accounting office and assessor's office and balcan commercial gas stove from Senior Center uh we're going to have I guess that's part of Correspondence in 4.1 Surplus reest Surplus request okay thank you so that
is being added that was not supposed to be uh 1.5 um we don't have can I uh entertain that this be moved to the next meeting on February 18th uh do we need a motion for that I just like to note that it's going to be moved or tabled to the next meeting whichever you want to do they're they're not in hand yet all right so we're moving the minutes um for 1 128
and 130 to 218 2025 yes please second oh you want a motion to do that well it sounded like you moved it so I'm good okay we both agree that the minutes will be at the next Mee thank you okay we have our appointments and three appointments of officials person
3.1 appoint Robert templon is towns in alternate to the NASA Rivers wild and Scenic Stewardship Council effective February 4th 2025 as an alternate member for a three-year term to expire June 30th 2027 is there a moved thank you and I'll second any just
discussion roll call vote Veronica Kell yes and Laura shiin yes 3.2 appoint Alan Ross as a perdum van driver for the Townsen senior center with effective date start effective start date February 17 2025 so moved and I will second any discussion thank you to Alan
Ross 3.3 appoint Susan gerin as COA representative it's Council on Aging representative to the cable advisory committee effective February 4th 2025 until completion of the Comcast contract is there a motion so moved have a second any discussion
none roll call vote uh ver yes and from yes and thank you to Susan girkin 3.4 reappoint David Worland as a trustee to the towns and affordable housing trust effective February 4th 2025 with a term to expire June 30th 2027 is there a motion um so moved and I will second for
discussion yes uh for discussion I believe the end date is 0204 2027 because we are twoyear terms I'm not sure what it was put on here I I understand it's the end of the fiscal year but um it's a two-year term from from the appointment date yes okay um I accept that amended motion all
right um okay so are we good call vote Veronica cell yes and L sh yes as amended okay four meeting business 4.1 Surplus request from facilities old file and cabinets to be scratched is there a motion I move to approve the
Surplus request from the facilities department for filing cabinets and desk for filing cabinets from the accounting office and assessor's office a desk and the Vulcan commercial gas stove from the senior center did you want to speak to it yes um so the filing cabinets are um some
really old ones from downstairs they got some newer ones from the old water building so these ones are kind of rusty and you know it's reached its useful life and there's also a desk that we um got from the old water building so the one I had to replaceing was kind [Applause] of life left and then uh the gas stove was um
purchased fairly recently um for the senior center for their kitchen but um once they started using it it really wasn't what they were looking for in terms of their needs um from operational perspective so uh they're looking to um just you know Sur it and sell it off
because that one has to be put up for bid is there anything else that we need to do because of this um it so I me how old is it and where did five months it's in the packet oh yeah um it's yeah it's um under 10,000 so um I was it was suggested that we put it on municibid which is would be my suggestion as well and uh we going to start the I guess the the auction at
$1,200 so that you know we we get at least you it's in very good shape so there's some value left on it um so we're hoping to get at least 00 for it are they are they replacing it they they have correct they've already replaced it correct okay so with some uh grants and donations I believe okay um what was the original cost I think it was right
around $34 $3600 okay so you're G out to bid yeah to and that's the minimum bid okay yep so we're hoping maybe a local restaurant or something you know that's in town or close to towns and can make use of it it's a very nice commercial grade uh gas stove and you know very high-end so you know we're hoping that local restaurant
would make good use of it okay so is that get posted yeah the process that everybody knows so once you know if this Surplus request is um approved by you guys I would then um post pictures on Unis bid which is a website just for municipalities you know getting rid of um most of the it's like vehicles but there's always equipment and various other items that they're
looking to get rid of so we've gotten rid of um fire vehicles um you know and other vehicles p through the through this website V ver and yes so 4.2 is next but before we there I see um William is
here here for the joint meeting I think he was hey Will um we we actually um finished up the appointment for um Harrison um right a little after 5:30 oh great thank you yep so you are dismissed sorry you can stay if you want I mean it is riveting so you yeah is it but we'll see you at the
Thursday night um School bu I'll see you on Thursday night yep thank you thank You2 special meeting Monday March 10th oh want to take this sure well do we want a motion or do we just want to talk about it I can I can talk about it now and then we oh yeah go ahead I'm sorry oh I'm good either way you've ped it to Nelson let's go I'm I'm good make the
motion okay um I move to open the warrant for the special town meeting of March 10th 2025 on February 5th 2025 and close the warrant on February 17 2025 and I second uh so this is the special town meeting that um ashb and P are looking to do and it's related to the school
budget to get an override vote um in place um I have received confirmation from ashb and peple that um their select boards have approved that date oh so we're all going to do it um at same night yep at 7 pm so um that is the big item for that night but we can certainly add a few more articles just to get some things accomplished um I know there's you
know a couple things that um you know we can add to it as well so are you okay with adding things yeah I have two things that I want to add okay I let you go first the funding uh the additional funding for the firet truck contract okay I want to put that on the agenda and I did find out from the vendor today that they would be okay at that time timeline uh there was actually a concern when this was first brought up
that we would lose our place um but I I actually was in contact with the vendor today and they're okay with us um doing our special town meeting putting it to a vote and you know they they'll accept the paperwork after after yeah assuming it passes okay good um and and I let Don know about it too okay for the special funding any comments um I would say um I read the capital
planning um bywise and I believe if we can get that committee meeting um they can have a recommendation for that they can go watch cycle it doesn't have to always be a recommendation from Capital planning okay sure I I believe our c will will have met and closed our meetings by then our first one is Friday right so that might be something to get on that okay to identify I just I read it reread
it to get my you know just confirm but it sound like we can do a cap another Capital planning that way it gets on to the capital planning list as at the proper value um this the other article would be for um uh overtime for salaried employees for um when operations
okay need that and I believe um you wanted to explore the option of the town clerk being in appointed yeah so that could be a potential article as well there is a very specific um way it has to be worded by the state but I can work with that yeah on that so um okay I know there's a a desire to
potentially make that point right and this with with what's going on with the resignation and having a short term uh somebody be elected this is a good time to do that opens a door for doing that sure right um what else did I have terms of for this special time
meeting I can't think of anything else oh you wanted to maybe a general fund budget override right well I want that included well are we going are we doing one article for override or two articles for override I think that if it's two articles it's confusing but I I think that um that we
need yeah I I don't we haven't met with the school committee I don't know what those dollars are yet right um and so but I think that um well we're discussing trash later um there are you know other things um that I think we need to talk about well do yeah do you think though that they would be coming from different sources and if they're coming from different sources should they be
separate the source that they're that the override is coming from is tax dollars so the source of the funding is the same it's just how much are we asking for for an override are we asking for just the schools or are we asking or are there going to be two override questions you know um and we don't know yet yeah it's kind of like we we don't have the budget fully done yet but we know there was a sort of a gap this year
and so we we'll have to identify exactly what that total is apply it see what the new rates are um if and the discussion is going to have to be do we want the trash included in a in a tax override so that we're not paying separate for bags or are we going to continue with a page or throw program there's a lot still up the here it has to come through with the
decision how we're going to present it it's early right now I think it is early but we do have trash on our um right on our agenda here okay um because we'll talk about that when we get there but and you just keep track of how many spots we want on the warrant because we're looking at we yes we have time but on the uh meetings on the 18th which is the day after the warrant closes so we
want to make sure that we have all the spots that we think we should have why are we closing it on the 17th then why don't we close it close a business or on the 18 midnight you know 11:59 p.m. on the 18 um I was hoping to sort of close it the day before so that uh on our um select board meeting which is on the 18th we can sort of discuss everything do we have the option of
reopening the warrant and changing it at our meeting at our meeting if we don't then we're closing this at the wrong time right because certainly we could delete things no once the warrant is closed well maybe we can you had the discussion with the last we did didn't we yeah and you can you can post it but you can still make those changes until it's actually posted we can other people as other people that
gives you the opp to continue to work on it when nobody else can add can add things to it add things to it unless stay the 17th and and the final on the 18th at our meeting yeah right and we have to uh you know I have to back out two weeks so um the special town meeting is on March 10th which means we need to post it All Around Town by February 24th so um few days from our meeting
right but you know I'll certainly prep as much as I can that way um you know it's just a quick turn around for Town Council at that point and plus it's only a handful of Articles so it's relatively a Qui turn especially when I when I'm prepping things ahead of time so that gives us time you know um almost two weeks to you know add a few more articles if we want um to it so y
so are we good to vote that motion on the dates of for the warrant yes which is the 5th and ending on the 17th and we have the at the Articles put in pretty much that we want yeah you know we can we can s more between yeah all right um roll call
Veronica K yes yes thank you 4.3 Disclosure by non-elected Municipal Employee of financial interest and determination by appointing authority Carol hofus um is your motion uh I move to approve the Disclosure by non-elected Municipal Employee of financial interest and determination by the appointing authority submitted by
Carol hes and I'll second and I believe that has to do with her big on the finance committee yeah on the finance committee and register right no she uh well an El she works the elections she works the election right so usually that would be because the appointing is John Barrett it would be be approved by John Barrett finance committee is appointed by
moderator right I had a question about that too so so it's John Barrett that has to approve this motion and not us the he's the appointing authority for the fin so he can sign the form it go looking at that oh okay I I agree with that I mean we can I I did it last year for myself and that's the process because John the appointing authority
right okay okay can the record reflect that that will go to John Barrett as the appointing authority all right I withdraw the motion and I withdraw a second oh no did the good stuff 4.4 you want to start nelon or did you want to start I I've not seen anything we get oh yeah we got we did it's in the SharePoint fer and I'm happy to
start I think that would be good okay no worries um so we did receive a um pricing proposal from GW Shaw and uh as requested it's actually it's a it's two versions there's a Allin price sort of the way it's done now it's just one price and they collect everything in time um the other one he he breaks it down um
which is uh there's a base fee which is his collection fee so for his labor his trucks what have you um and then he would charge us for the the ters that's actually collected from the trash andye um so for uh the Allin pricing for year one it's 77,4
60 he did also break up um per building um for municipal um buildings so you know it's all in here in The Proposal um but it's roughly if I take out the recycling center which is a is is a separate entity and how they're build and they have a revolving fund to take care of
that it's roughly about $110,000 a year for all the municipal buildings so when you add that up it's about $780,000 for the I I have a question about that is it separate or is he just itemizing what is included in the grand total because it says anyway I I I wasn't sure exactly whether the 10,000 you're talking about
is included in the 770 I don't think so because I further down he does list um M municipal buildings per month charge so I think he5 yeah I think I see that okay so you're you think that's separate okay yeah and again that 1155 includes um he added up the the charges for the recycling Center which should be backed out because um the recycling center um it's all paid for it's all
paid for by the the revolving revolving fund yeah so again it's roughly about 10,000 a year for all the municipal buildings um so it's a slight decrease compared to the 820 that we're currently on now um and uh I I also looked at Lunen BG's price proposal because they actually went to bid over the summer and Shaws was the low bidder for lunenberg
and um pricing was pretty similar so um you know there wasn't really a big difference between what he quoted lenberg and he quot how many households in lenberg I don't know exactly but I think their population is right around 11,000 or so so slightly um larger larger than us um but you know I would say so he's come down for this fiscal
year and there is a you know year two and three does go up slightly not a ton I think it was yeah it does 23,000 whatever well yeah it did it did go up but I wouldn't say it's um you know exorbitant amount of money um yeah it's only 3% uh year overy year and then from year two to year three is yeah 3 uh 3.15% so
they have a thousand more lunenberg has a thousand more households than us 4529 a littleit versus 3,436 yeah I think they're they're dener um and there were no other bids right no there was no RFP um well you from lunenberg or lunenberg they did have lunenberg did
an RFP correct we did not right yeah they were the definitely the little bitter um and how did they have a sealed bid opening it that's just what sh just gave them a sealed envelope it wasn't a sealed bid I was G to say our are sealed but yeah it it come in on an RFP they called it that but it wasn't technically a response
to a propose yeah so um you know so I kind of did some quick math and evaluated both proposals um I think I mentioned it at the The Joint meeting um when we had with the Board of Health um in all in price um we kind of insulated you know for both budgeting reasons I I have a number that I can present to everyone and we know what the
costs are um so there there's that um the other proposal where it's a base fee and then we pay for all the tonage um I realize if um the residents thre out less trash you know we probably would be paying less than the all-in price but the the reverse can happen which is um you know suddenly the the tund spikes um because actually in this
proposal recycling is actually more expensive than actual trash um so um um that was not my impression of it years ago when we started I think the market has changed so uh I'm certainly not here to advocate for recycling less but um it certainly would cost cost the town more um so if the T suddenly spikes
there's no there's no ceiling on what our expenses would be so it's a Gamble and risk and given our financial situation I I would feel uncomfortable um you know so the purple bags go away under this it still would stay oh um so we're double paying no
no this it's everybody's question it sounds like you're double dipping because it's in the budget but you're funding the budget the operating budget with the page but it's only partially funded so so so there's really no double there is no double the reeven colle from the bank is helping fund Revenue if there's not enough Revenue in the general fund so do you still have to have purple bags the
thing unless we put the entire amount of this contract on the override with the schools so that the override is paying for both trash and the schools next year if if we don't do that what we did this year is we we took the purple bags and then we took 200 to 300,000 from arpa funds to pay that 820k contract there's
no double dipping anywhere the the issue is that people in town are not supporting the purple bags and therefore are paying for private pickup even though we the town are still paying for trash pickup at their houses so we don't have AR of funds at all left for next year so we have if we say 40,000 a month is what gets spent on
purple bags and you multiply that by 12 you get 480,000 this is 780,000 we need 300,000 and it either has to come from tax revenue meaning an an increase in taxes to cover it or it comes from a PE a fee assessed to every household those are our options and if I may it were two other places money came from we moved $146,000 from Reserve from the
stabilization fund to pay for this this year and there was also a $100,000 transfer from ambulance funds into pay Fire EMS so that we freed up another $100,000 in the general fund to use towards paying the trash towards the trash and the schools it wasn't it was it was just what we needed right it was what we needed and we pulled from many many different places is to pull this together so I think that's that's a piece need to start then
considering that all that it makes sense to have them together in the boat think let's think about it but so I have see what the schools say I do have some thoughts on that um if you were to break it up you know one vote for you know School budget override and the other for a general fund override um that kind of gives
folks um an option maybe they're more supportive of One Versus the other but when you lump it all together it it becomes difficult to discern who you know it becomes difficult for someone to support it um if they're only supportive part of that um so you know it's just the the reality I think last time you guys um the the Tech High
School and the we did split out the two schools yeah and you know and you know there was I well I I guess there both votes were so close that very yeah but I can see I can see how you know certain families might favor one versus the other depending if they have kids and either but how does that benefit everyone I mean it doesn't but you have a favorite out of when you know that the
whole Community needs both right right it's just about giving um people the choice I I guess is what it comes down to well where's who are you choosing I mean where's the choice how do you choose just the schools when you still have to run the town they're not going to work without each other right but I'm not I'm not saying that you're wrong to do it in two I'm just saying I want to hear what the schools
have to say and I want to hear what the other towns are doing um before making a decision one way or the other yeah absolutely and you know I think I mentioned before a lot of cities and towns um the the the trash um expenses it's a lot of times they they split it you know the the page you throw Revenue only covers a portion of of um
the expenses and then the rest is um on the you know taxpayers the I I agree with it with doing it that way but for us for the portion of taxpayers we don't have the money to to pay it or I would say why of course but we don't have the money unless we have an override that supports the town doing that that we just don't have it um unless we lay off
staff um you know closed buildings um which is not my choice but um that's that's the other place you get it from it has to come from somewhere in the existing General budget and and um it's not just there so my only when I'm speaking or giving my opinion now is just so that it's out
there okay is that um an override is only for that year but doesn't guarantee that you're going to have money the following year for those same items it doesn't um that is true but it's likely that it will be there you know um it's like for a while anyway I mean yeah there was a trash override in what 2005 or something 2001
I don't know it was a long time ago and we managed to fund trash through the the general budget up until now it's been a struggle the past five years to keep that going and when was the last off after the school around 2013 or so 2011 2013 2009 there was override for the school back then not a death debt excl
oh there have been plenty that didn't pass but as far as ones that did pass it was after my children graduated so it it was 09 11 13 somewhere and there and then we also had a Deb exclusion I believe for this to fund the schools you know the building of the high school um so yeah but you know an override is a permanent um well it's a it's it's a
permanent increase it permanently raises the tax right yeah yeah right unfortunately with taxes and the taxing we there's the two and a half is where we are we have a big gap between there and and the top that you can and we don't have enough growth in this town to absorb anything growth doesn't necessarily mean doesn't track directly it doesn't track the pieces that we have to struggle with
is and I'm going to say where I'm on it's kind of like the income raises are getting Tighter and we're trying to promote Town budgets that are increasing over over the increase in our deposits into our accounts It's Kind like you you've got a population that is getting squeezed by higher higher bills higher invo and we we have in Massachusetts we have two and a half so you limited into what
the maximum you can increase over the last year's Levy it's last year's taxes plus growth all all those things so but it doesn't mean that there's not room where between the top level because the real estate values have gone so high there's room to to grow and not go above the maximum tax proposition to and a half is is very complex in their calculations and how it's applies but a
two and a half override doesn't get there we had a discussion at the last meeting the plan going forward having some estimates couple years out we could see what an override would do and how it put aart um and we should ask the school for the same thing what's next year's budget what's the year after that going to look right so that we can have an idea in our planning can if we ask for an override is is there something that we're not going to come back in the next year um but you know by the same token
you probably have heard um you know the school district um talk about you know special education um it's very difficult to predict how many kids um have those special needs every year um you could budget for something in end of August and then um either a kid certainly has a need that you need to now take care of or new people move new kids move in and they have um certain um challenges that
needs to be addressed so how how do you predict those sort of things so it's very difficult and I I think that's where a lot of the um School budgetary issues are coming from is from the special ed side you you hear it time and time again that in all these um presentations with the school district there's no hope of getting um uh any dollars back from the state or
federal cont um so there is something called I think uh what do they call it the regional contract it's called the student Opportunity Act and I think we're there's one more year year left in it so people are saying in FY 27 there maybe some relief the student Opportunity Act yeah it targeted Gateway cities which we are not it upped their funding yeah yeah so this I think
that's where the money went yeah so this is there's one more year left in that so once that is done I think they'll hit the reset button and hopefully Regional Schools will um get their funds back yeah get enough traction with the legislature to you know change the formula and give us some money so we're kind of limping the last few years of of the you know the student Opportunity Act you know with the hopes that the formula
will change okay what's your pleasure on 4.4 which is sh's contract we're just really discussing it I don't think there's anything necessarily to vote on um I'm glad we were able to have the conversation and talk about it I I lean towards the full service I lean towards the full service
contract I would as well um and it also puts I as well yeah it easy it puts some of the risk onto Shaws because there's no upper limit on how much they would collect um they can collect as much as they um need to and it doesn't increase our contract it does mean that if we don't have an override to get the extra
funding over and above what we get from purple bags there either needs to be um a a fee in instituted for all households and given that we have CPA coming next year as well we will have a structure in place to charge fees so we can just put two fees on that bill one for trash and one
for CPA and I've already started to have staff look at it I put it sort of put their bug in their air a few weeks ago but I formally requested them to explore the option um to see is there extra software programming involved any additional cost um and also to look into um this is a fee now um what if someone doesn't pay it are there late fees attached with it is it handled similarly
to how real estate taxes are yeah you know so that's that those are the questions I I need to ask in research I think what we could what you could go back to Sha's with is comparing the lunenberg contract to ours because ours should be a fourth I mean if they have 4500 and we have 3,100 we have about you know a quarter less than them um why is ours
um that much higher than theirs I don't know what Lunen BG's contract is the most recent but that's the one thing I would approach going back to Shaws is this their best number I'll need to look at the lunenberg numbers but I believe um is this on par with what given the
number of households in towns and compared to the number of households in lunenberg is this trash contract on par with the trash contract that they gave to lunar that would be my question y I'll take a look at it but just quickly looking at it it looks like lunenberg is higher than ours the the total price which makes sense uh I think it's right around 900
or so 900,000 theirs is 900,000 and ours is 780 so that's 120 less make sense doesn't make sense yeah but it's but you're talking about
25% but difference in the amount of houses I don't have the contracts I would look at are they are they quoting us using our existing pickup methods which is barrels versus toter isber TOS um because' be an extra person not on the truck um there was a slight typle that I noticed in the Sha contract which
was this was with tots I don't think that's I think it says that on top yeah I don't think that's accurate just it was something that um was discussed I yeah but it would have costed more money um but we find out yeah um I have a question on me um in the contract the description for
recycling center they pick up the recycling [Music] center uh the sh pick up something yeah you can pay to have like a bulky item disposed of yeah so you pay a fee a resident or whoever and then except for matresses and box springs well there's a separate fee for that I don't think uh I don't think sha has picks that up right they don't pick that up right um so this is their fee for all so they
pick up uh Furniture couches chairs tables bureaus okay do they pick those up curbside as part of recycling no recycling center they have dumpsters up there or they have 30 yard and we go up there we to recycle center we load our stuff into the dumpster we drive away when that dumpster is full we see call
and have that and and the money paid to Shaws to pick that up is paid by the fees that we pay to the recycling center so they have a revolving fund that that cash goes into so they have the money to pay this for the pick it's it's essentially self sustaining right so which is why Nelson pointed out that these funds should have been removed from the total of the
1155 so has two proposals and
okay contract for copier appr at the January 2 special town meeting is there a motion um I move to approve the contracts for two new copiers for the town hall as approved in the 12 128 2025 special town meeting and to authorize Town Administrator Nelson mui as signatory on behalf of the select board
a second um I'm just wondering if the amount on here is consistent which with what was on the town meeting war and if there's an issue with that so there is a uh $200 increase and that was because I had to tweak um the composition of the um copers um we were originally quoted um two color versions um but um the
maintenance um the per page maintenance um for the color um copies is very expensive and you know we've lived with two black and white copiers for years now so um my suggestion was we can save a little bit money on you know the ongoing maintenance you know because toner and other things are very
expensive for color copers so uh we just have um we have one of each now and surprisingly the the black and white copier is actually a little bit more expensive yeah I see that um it has a fax line I think it's because of other features but the question is this 14,000 I thought it was 13,000 it was 13,000 00 and that was the original quote and then after the meeting I kept thinking about
it and it turned out that the quote originally was for two color uh was less than what we're paying um yeah so so this extra $200 or so I'm just gonna have it taken out of Mis to to cover the difference yeah but I'm still I'm still Veronica saying why would you have um I understand the maintenance may be more and probably the color ink is more in
the long run to have two of them for sure because ink is very expensive so you're talking about a $500 difference so do you have two that are black and white in color and then you have an extra 500 for maintenance or for buying ink do we have any idea how much the ink
is there's $500 here for the one that's just black and white difference between the color right um I think over the long run you know we're probably gonna um save money because you know I think we I would I would be very judicious about when we would print and color given how expensive um the you know the the ink is it's and you know there's a there's a corly fee attached to this and
it's per page and that fee includes um all the maintenance um and all the toner um as well I was going to ask you if there was like a yearly contract yeah service contract so it's it's per page and so it's um for color it's um five cents a page but for black and white it's half a penny so it's 10 times more expensive for
color so but I think having one color copier um is is is nice to have uh versus two because I I think um when you have two you know people will probably not be as judicious judicious with you know printing in color as if we just had one up here so we kind of can control who's printing a color I think this is fine I just wanted to know where the extra the dollars over
and above what was approved the town meeting was going to come from to be honest I think it's G to come from the lack of printing color on it you're going to save money by just printing black and white and I think that's why in the long run in the long run in the higher price but because we're paying quarter week per pay you you the savings will come in because we're not color right agree yeah I'm good with non color and you know the as I mentioned
the the difference between what was vote at that town meeting and and this price which is roughly $200 I I'll I'll pay for the difference out of Mis okay so and both copers are on last leg um Don will tell you I I yeah it is true all right so it's literally on us
last night it couldn't come soon enough I wish it was here tomorrow um okay so when and they do dispose of what the old ones they take them with them correct um it's so old that there's really no value to it so the fact that they're going to take it away it's just like when you buy a new fridge and they take the old one away there's really no value at all to to the old item so they'll take it
away any further discussion vote Veronica yes and La sh yes 4.6 contract for the 100,000 grant for the kids oh country playground yes is there a motion I move to approve the contract for the $100,000 Park grant for the kids country
playground and authorized Town Administrator Nelson mu signator on behalf of the select Board second that I have no discussion okay roll call Veronica K yes and Shi yes s um this is on the uh well I think that
the only thing we have to do right now is um they need to establish if I read this right um a mailing list for information um maybe you want to talk about it and so I think we need to move to have you know just to I don't know if it requires a motion we can make a motion have someone from town on this list um so that we get the information and then on the 18th by March 18th we
have to submit comments on this document and um so I figured we could do that at the first meeting in March okay so if if I'm looking at this four entities shall notify the Departments by Tuesday of the individuals for inclusion on the
electronic distribution list to be established for this matter limited to legal counsel and named support staff yes oh so that would just be the TA and Council so yeah so we need to determine by now who we who is the person to get this information and then by March 18th departments otherwise invite
comments and data from a broad range of stakeholders which is I believe why we got this to the Departments will accept written comments and data on this matter including comments and data on the questions contained in the order until the close of business on Tuesday March 18th so so I I mean I looked at this at a glance and I thought originally I thought that the department heads should be notified of this and if they had comments to bring it back like to the
Town Administrator no um this is well do you want to talk about what this is for um I'm trying to try to make heads or Tales of it myself I know it has to do with um you know the right away and utility polls and I think they're changing the way what can hang on on a poll that's the way I understood this I could be wrong but you know Verizon um Unitil or you know um the
cable company they you could have it's how things are on polls and where polls are so it's they issued an order opening an inquiry to explore utility pole attachment conduit access double pole and related considerations applicable to utility were conducted on public rights of way in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts Department these
departments share jurisdiction of utility post blah blah blah blah blah a man memorandum of agreement entered into by the agencies to facilitate shared jurisdiction so it I just think we should know about this I don't know that we're going to be changing polls or doing anything but we should be aware what's going on and uh you know about Highway too um you know I I can
certainly left to know about it too um this is kind of a so I was going to talk later about the uh Municipal empowerment act that Governor Heil Healey has introduced and one of the items in there is about double polls so I this has been a supposedly a hot top IC item for many years now it was I think it was somewhere along the lines of um these double polls
or um in a lot of communities and they're having a hard time getting them removed because um everyone's sort of playing Hot Potato of who it kind of belongs to um so this I I feel like this is all connected to you know the the double pole um um conversations that are being had at the state level and especially who puts up the pose it's utility compan so it's either like a unitel or an
electric company or um Verizon and they all have agreements please if you go around you can check by what the the plates and numbers are on the polls who owns who owns them and then they're the primary owner of the poll the order in which different utilities have to be placed on the P like the electric is got to be at
the top and the next one down is got to be so many feet away so the electric doesn't cause interference with anything else one pole may be owned by very next one in line could be owned by another utility the third pole in a row could be still a third utility there's no uniformity on which po belongs to crew except when that utility was installed years ago the
double pole businesses like for years I don't even know if it's still there right across the street there was a poll that was installed some of the utilities redid their wires on it but the broken or damaged or old pole was still there with some utilities on it because they all have to coordinate it's your poll I need give you permission to move my equipment onto your etc etc so between
them versus the town but well we but the work is done in our town we don't own the polls so it would be good to know that they're coming in to change all the polls or to well is that and also since I mean I was just reading this in the contract for the un not Unitil Comcast contract that they utilities actually have to get
permission from the town to work on a pole in the town especially if it affect are right away or if they have to dig the street up because there's a barried utility um I know for a fact contast is required if they have to open up the road to do work on a Comcast cable they put the bill for it it's their responsibility they have to make it good
back to the way it was before they opened it we used to have to um okay all the road opening permits just maybe four years ago five years ago and we we the select board turned that over to highway so that we didn't have this whole list of Road opening permits to sign it wouldn't hold up the work that was being done in addition to that they have to coordinate like if there's a new
development yeah like I saw at your planning board Kevin Smith wants to do a project up near the border if there's no polls out that far yeah the utilities now have to sit down and go well I'll put the poll in but you pay for this and that or it's got to go underground depending on what the bylaws and right we do have underground ultimately they they have to
be responsible to the town is there a permit process for that not so much a permit process that the town with the last one I was ever involved with years ago they have to get permission from you to be able to do the work but the per comes State uh regulations it's a mess so I can see why
somebody at the state level would want to be uh having some kind of a group think about it is how can we make this better and this is what the transition to clean energy that's coming over the course of the next X number of years for the state it's it's a lot um so over the next several year substantial electric distribution infrastructure Investments are planned in part to facilitate the clean energy transition in the
Commonwealth including the deployment of RightWay and pole mounted electric vehicle Supply equipment um if the state's going to simar installing charging stations for electric vehicles broad yeah Broadband infrastructure expansion and upgrades are also planned throughout state so this is just who do we want on the mailing list first of all inspector is not involved in anything
no no the building inspector so so who do we put on the mailing list that's what the question is the yeah I think that Nelson should be it says legal counsel and um I don't know if legal Council needs to be on this um but we could um you may just
find out what they know because he does so many cities and towns he may he may be well aware of all of this and who's doing it in each Town yes ask what are they doing so they're just making a mailing list and that's all we need to do first and then we need to look at read through this and see if there's any comments okay and those who doe March 18th but this this itself actually came in an email to us yes it did I saw that in in
the email yeah it did come in an email so um so I make a motion that we have the Town Administrator added to the distribution list for this second no further discussion roll call votes Veronica kellia yes unless Nelson you thought there should be someone else on it nope I think my office would be would be
appropriate and then you certainly can solicit any information from somebody you think might have some for us and then can we put on the agenda for March 4th or whatever it is first meeting in March um a discussion of any comments that need to be added to this and the me memorandum is
attached okay session AR projects update um not the moment there's something over the senior center related to the uh their cleaner um but I'm still trying to work on some detail so once I once I know more I'll I'll share it with you guys
okay if about the library senior Cate that building yes correct I think it's mainly the yes mainly the library we need to talk about that when we do budget with the finance committee okays updates I have a few um so the the state you know they call it the charity sheet that's that's basically the uh amount of state aid
that we received from the uh from the the state um the numbers are sort of right in line with what it's been in the past around two 2.2% the uh the bigger increase that we uh did did see was the um the the property exemptions that we
give to Veterans yeah um we we give you know um veterans like a a tax break on their property taxes um the state actually kicks in money to to make up for that difference so it's it's kind of a wash um but you know that number has increased um over the last year so it looks like more and more veterans okay my understanding was and I
heard this in another meeting that the state doubled the amount that you could give them as an exemption you could that is a that that a local option that we have not adopted yet because they don't give you any money towards that correct you have to fund yourself correct and um that what yeah and this doesn't
really count right then there were talks about um you have to adopt that at town meeting and actually there has been some talk about um having that I mean if it was voted I don't I think we would object if the taxpayers weren't fmed it you know because everybody's appreciative of what the veterans have done oh absolutely um the only problem is it's the the
increase in the exemption it's not paid for by the state right so we would have to fli the bill and I I would say it's right around 80,000 at the moment somewhere around there and there's also a second component to that which is you can actually add a inflation Factor as well that that's a separate measure to the exemption so right now I think the amount is $400 and it's
probably been that amount for a number of years so that 400 really doesn't get you that far um year after year um but there's an option to add a CPI factor to it so if inflation is 5% then your exemption every that year will go up by 5% so
is that something you would consider adding I would like to look at the budget as a whole before I make a statement one way or the other on that but would you look at that if you that as an option for us to do for v We we'll ask for the information I'd say it's part of the bigger batement plan and and see what okay be doing and see work right there are a couple programs I just wanted on the radar
absolutely no I've heard some talk about it because uh it is a you know it would be an additional benefit to to the many veterans I have here in P so see free cash has been certified um the amount is um 628 955 um significant increase from previous years so um and what has already been
spent of that from town meeting uh last week's town meeting so we had the two copy which is 13,900 um 32,000 for the playground um El there were others um my rough estimate was around 60 that came out do you have one done um
I I I think I yep it's right around $60,000 because we had certified it was certified prior to the meeting right it was certified prior to the meeting but I thought we were working from the prior recat from the 23 not 20 24 so this sort of this this takes into account free cash free cash that had carried over I I think the free cash that had carried over was rolled into the new free cash
number I don't think it's like last year's free cash and next year's free cash I think whatever was free cash you know previously is rolled into this this dollar amount who certifies that the state Bob so so the state certifies our free cash and you think that whatever was left the year before gets rolled into what yes
yes that's actually a good distinction and I actually don't know the the a definitive answer um it's not a separate we don't have a we're spending this year's free cash and then we're spending that Year's free cash we are spending free cash so anything that came out prior to the current fiscal year came out of the free cash that was then then when they
certify free cash they look at everything that you've got so if you had any free cash left last year it gets rolled into this this is the number you can check on that but I'm pretty sure that's how it works unless they changed things well yeah well it's a good question I more absolutely to verify so you know it's it's um it's a higher amount than it has
been in previous years so you know maybe we can you know put some Capital stabilization or you know the planish the stabilization fund you know above and beyond what was promised to to you guys um but I know there's also some needs and wants that we're trying to address so we're have to sort of balance that yes I'm not in favor of using a penny of free
cash we had $ 47,4 two40 that's what I that was my number from town meeting but I might have missed something um but I So Not only was the the Cherry sheets uh you know released for the schools it was
I mean for the towns it was also released for the schools as well and um so this the um they got a 1.15% increase from the state in the Chapter 70 FR state here's the cherry sheet for North milx I didn't print for oh yeah I did print for Nev Valley but um yeah it's not a lot
it's like they went from 21, 446 665 to 2,694 I mean it's like nothing it's $250,000 it's nothing on a 21 for the Regional School yeah 1.15% yeah um how you survive on that I don't
know do we know the numbers that the Gateway cities get you don't even want to look okay is the text schol the same um I didn't do I did end on the tech school I didn't do cherry sheets um for them but I I did look at andd what was in andd and a lot of the surrounding
districts just to see where North Middle sex falls out but I did not do Cher sheet for them so it's a little bit different they also didn't get a ton of money out yeah anything Regional they only got 1% yeah anything Regional didn't get much yeah but our our increase the town's increase for is 53,000 the number we were using
was the old number corre as opposed to the August he gave me a scare so we we attended the uh the shoulder Valley Tech breakfast um presentation [Music] Friday so let see what my notes say here so yeah so our assessment went up by 53,000 and change which equates to 3.77% is not not bad consider not bad
given what it's been before so you know we did see a uh decrease I believe of three students from enrollment um so so I yeah that that increased for the tech or Nela for for the um attack oh a decrease in okay last year we had an increase there yeah I think was was 10 stud yeah was 11 I think Y
and then um so this year we have a decrease he graduated probably it's hard to say you have to take all you fres some yeah what about towns and last year we were 40 short I don't know no I haven't seen the presentations from the school committee uh for uh North Middle sex as far as our students in the high
school yeah last year was 40 less well we have thday with them so we'll find that out yeah that's part of the presentation they shows the enrollment members so see um most folks have probably received their unitel bills for January and I I can confirm that uh the new aggregation
rate is on there yeah so um and it is less yep also all things being equal if you use the same amount of electricity you should see a decrease in your bills um mine was less and the gas was exorbitant right through the roof because you keep it like a song at your house no I don't I told you 62 to 64 is what my house is at it's not at 68 or 70
or 72 yeah um I will say um since I've been here a lot of folks have been um concerned about their electricity bills um unel is certainly not the cheapest option around but unfortunately they are the only option um that's why you know the energy aggregation program that we um have worked hard on um should provide some savings to folks but I've heard many
many people complain about their electricity up6 800 a month which is pretty substantial um I haven't heard too much about the gas fill but hearing about yours it's it's it's not s mind it's not a small amount either no so um unfortunately we don't set electricity or gas rates it's done at the state level in Boston with the Department of
Public Utilities there are periods of comment when um utility companies um want to increase their rates um I don't know how much it really helps but um nonetheless there are they do notify everybody yeah you can you can I don't know if you need to go into Boston to to do it or you can think there's a comment period yeah not sure this work to tell you the truth they seem to be all getting upgrades
that don't work yeah um um got a couple more things um this was an interesting one from Pep so I don't know if you ever heard of it or not but it's called preul pre ulation which is um I guess there are some Old School boundary markers between peil and and
Townsen and I guess every so many years you're actually supposed to walk that is correct walk um to you know get eyes on it and see if it needs to be repaired um so we've been invited um I think um starting in March to join peil to to do the um walk to do all the coordinates have been um you know put in GIS so they know exactly
where it's located so it's um usually Town officials or whoever is interested in doing it maybe Historical Society folks um so it was brought to my attention it sounded pretty interesting yeah so little history behind that parula the bounds is one of the oldest tasks that the board of Selectmen of any town is supposed to engage in basically it's verifying that nobody's encroaching
on your boys the last time that I know of that officially ulated was in 1998 on my own I went out got myself a fancy GPS T years ago and I loc all but two, pounds with modern GPS some very interesting ones that are out in the middle of
nowhere usually it is a piece of stone usually it usually it is a piece of stone that has do it all in one day I think that kind of stuff is interesting no I think they do like on a weekend yeah they probably more than once it depends yeah and it's just a peppero bound right not the um yeah for doing all the towns and it would be it'd be pretty quick most of the stones are about four or five feet tall and 18 in
square of the state bounds it's got NH on one side and it's got na on the other I can actually show you where a couple of wicked meat to find and look at some of them are very old so the ones that you know we would be participating in are the you know the boundaries between PE and town Town yeah so it's just that line yeah and so do we post when we do it because both of us
want to go it's a site walk and site walks have different rules from the open meeting law so we just can't well we can talk we can't um oh what's the word you know deliberate uh so we can't decide to move the boundaries you and I could not no but you don't have to post it so we were invited so once I have more details
I'll share it with the board and whoever else wants to I learned that at the open meeting law training that I went to last week site walks don't need to be posted posted as meeting yes you can if you want to but they do not need to be where did you go for that it's online that the AG's office does once or twice a month you can go on the AG's website
um and find their trainings so okay um just one last thing for me um I'm going to be changing how I I deal with Town Hall and um snow delays and closures um my initial thoughts where I would sort of follow what the school district would be doing but in the three times I've um delayed the opening of town hall
by the time I get here at you know I usually am here at like 8:15 8:20 just um yesterday the roads were completely clear so so so for Town Hall the open at 11 didn't make a lot of sense to me given how clear the roads were which is a attestment to you know um our Highway department at and you follow the school so you send out your notice same time they do yeah as soon as I get yeah I send it out um for me I my initial
thinking was I I'll put the decision making burden on them you know and I just follow what they what are saying but I think for Town Hall operations it's it's kind of a destructive thing to you know have a delay of that nature when the roads are perfectly Friday so uh what I'm going to do is take everything on a caseby casee basis I'll work with Highway first thing in the morning to
see um what the conditions really are and what they will be and um make a decision based off that versus solely relying on school district of making the decision for me they the only place that it might you know a lot of times the schools delay because of Ashby um you know who have more back roads and less plows yeah than we do um
so that's often the reason for it but it still means that employees that have children won't be able to get into town hall because they have to put their kids on the bus right or whatever so and I do realize that um and you know we can take those on a case-by Case basis whether they um shift their works schedule take pay time off to to deal with um you know getting their their kiddos on on the bus but I did reach out to um my
counterparts and ashb and Pull and so far this winter they have not delayed a town hall opening at all and I've done it three times already so um so again I feel like um you know I need to take things more on a Case by case basis versus solely relying on the school district because uh you know I think you should have the discuss I'm good with that I am good with that just so long as there is an exception made for people that need
that have uh Child Care issues based on the closure by the schools oh yeah absolutely you know like I said they can either shift their work schedule around either for that day or that week or you know take pay time off or work from home yeah or some combination thereof um but I do know most employ they live in town which is at most five or 10 minutes away um but I'm looking the balance employee safety as well as
um Town Hall operations so that you know the public can come in and do business you know right here so um I appreciate that of course thank you and uh Thursday will be interesting because there's a a storm brewing and uh early release uh I'm thinking might have I think that one says three to five I'm thinking it might have to be probably an early release it's not now supposed to start until 9 or 10 in the morning um
it's going to pick up in the afternoon so um depending on the conditions I'll probably what about our meeting though it could be canceled if we close Town Hall if Town Hall closes or if the school hold it because of there virtual but it's virtual right it's virtual but I they could be meeting at the school and presenting with their equipment I don't
know there's no they weren't coming here we were coming here to do it as but we could all go from home you know looking this guy's running looking um on the meeting information I believe they built in a u a backup day did they yeah do you know
what day that is let me look at the agenda right now I remember looking at it this today let me see have do you have Thursday posted Jo with okay and you you do remember that I
told you that I'll be on at 6 for part of it because I have the snow date is Monday 10th and then correct same day as at six correct oh the 10th of that's Monday
February okay so that's the but I think it's I think it's supposed to clear out by then the weather but um I don't know okay oh just one last thing um I had mentioned the municipal empowerment act that the governor is trying to enact um
there's a whole bunch of stuff in it there's a wide range of things she's looking to do but one of the more pertinent ones um I think for towns and is they're looking to increase the the local meal tax because right now it's a six and a quarter or six and a half percent um you can increase it um to 7% so that should bring in a little bit of extra Revenue you can also increase
excise tax is a um yeah and um you can uh it's a school bus thing I looked at districts can have their own school buses now as opposed to using companies or something like that they're yeah they're looking to make that change where you could um start your own ums company so we could have North midle SE buses as opposed to which might help us to control things somewhat I don't
know it's hard to say yeah because at the school budget meeting nothing that would happen tomorrow there's always um complaints about every year there's only one bidder for the school bus contract um wants to do it no it's because of it's more like a monopoly thing like nobody's going to bid against anybody else and that's you know it's a territorial thing I should say yeah so they I mean essentially they can charge
what they want but at the same time I don't think they're not going to you know bump up the the fees by 20% or something like that um but there's no competition so you don't know what what kind of pricing we would get so I think um the municipal empowerment Act unless there's grants for buses how are the schools going to get their own buses well it's nothing that's going to happen
tomorrow this failed to make it through last year do do we know when the vote's gonna be this year no it's not scheduled yet this week notification so it's it's hard to say when they're going to vote on it um these things take a long time I don't think we can count on for next year's budget but perhaps the year after um um but yeah so those are some of the
the highlights there's a Litany of things that she's looking to accomplish in this empowerment act and those are just some of the highlights I just mentioned so fig I would share it with everyone to reports from board V I'm just gonna say that um federal grants if we have federal grants for anything I think we should make sure we we've checked the status of that fire department police department um actually
that was what anywhere else would you yeah I will um last week when um president Trump decided to freeze all federal dispersement funds um everyone was very worried what the implications of that would be um and then I think a couple days ago he uh resented that so it or I still think people should look and
make sure that they have not missed an email that said you need to uh file a report or you need to have submitted for previously because although that did happen um it's possible that things are changing rapidly so it would be good to um make sure that we're where we should be and the people are keeping an eye on it that's all mrpc has on your agenda as
a discussion item yeah because it's all federal funded right not all I think but mostly mostly very little EST state right um I don't have anything except that I'm guilty of not getting the final my thoughts final to you uh regarding the moving around so I'll try to work on that LE liaison
oh just making sure the list is right to the out to the right people and also um because some of them really don't have committees or sometimes just one or two people I guess I would like to know who it is and how to get in touch with them and um what their reports are do does each
each each um individual group have a report in the annual report um most not all did you get the housing TR do you did you get the one for the Housing Trust I would have to check okay I wrote one and I sent it to Aaron and we were waiting for any comments back from
others other yeah okay thanks look at last year and see how many we have anyway um who is writing good point who is writing the select boards who is me no you are Nelson is okay the select board's annual report for the town oh yes that's right yep
okay I haven't started it yet but I have um I'm formulating some thoughts okay we can just do a draft don't timee in yeah absolutely um and I've been looking at previous examples okay um of you know how it's been structured there's almost eight months that you weren't here of that annual right so um yep and so Sabrina should be able to help greatly she was and we'll just use
memory um 5.3 announcements Communications any more bond to response forms no no slow week so I will announce again that there are lots positions that are open for people who have not not you guys I think all of you um to lend your expertise to help the
community uh I would also note that um board elected positions are all open you can pull papers at the town clerk's office on the website has listed all the positions that are open and I can't remember the date but it's like if you get if you get your papers by the end of February you're in good shape right I think it's a first Friday in March that
they're due or it could be the second Monday March so you have all of February to get your papers take out your papers and anybody who's interested can call either one of us and we're happy to help you decide where you want to be um okay next meeting February 6th which is Thursday which is posted and I I thought we had one February 11th as well didn't
we add that it's a joint it's a joint Finance with Finance so but it should be on here as well I mean it's every Tuesday and Thursday between now oh yeah yeah that's true so February 11th should be on here February 13th correct February 18th February 20th February 25th and February
27 I think if we just stick with February February we're probably getting enough but I looked at this and I thought only February 6 and February 18th wait a minute soting yeah just just do yeah so change February 18th to February 11th um because we have in between there and we have the
13th then we get to the 18 somebody let me know so I can update links I I will do it I just sent you you sent me the letters I'll copy you as and we're using the same links for the most part yeah yeah I get a lot of changes get made and I don't get notified then I have to reissued yeah so yeah the I I guess the six and
the 18th the sixth is joint with the school committee the 18th is our next regular meeting so that's probably why they're on there and it doesn't count all the joint meetings for budget stuff yeah yeah for in the select board that's oh we have um fire tea police and Animal Control yeah that
night I sent out eight note to them I there was a lot of other that I have to capture for the other the rest of the department get invitation thank you I'm glad you're sending those we don't have to 5.5 and sign payroll and bills payable warrants out of session is there a motion uh so moved and I'll
second any discussion hearing them roll call Veronica K yes sh yes 6.1 ex executive session pursuant to open meeting Law chapter 30A section 21 A2 to conduct strategic session in preparation for negotiation with nonunion Personnel or to conduct collective bargaining
sessions or contract negotiations with non-un Personnel intern town clerk position is there a motion and um I move to enter um into executive session at 7:19 um and adjourn from executive session pursuant to open meeting Law chapter 30A section 21 A2 to conduct a strategy
session in preparation for negotiations with non-union Personnel or to conduct collective bargaining sessions or contract negotiations with non-union Personnel regarding the interim town clerk position second and Veronica C this thank you all right thank you all