good evening everyone my name is Laura Shiffren and I am calling the meeting of the select board to order of April 15 2025 at 6:00 p.m veronica Cal present
presentator in with us would you all join me in the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America to the republic for it stands nationy and justice for all pretty agenda tonight um the meeting
is being recorded and will be uploaded to YouTube is there there's somebody else here but is there anybody else [Music] online that is recording hi from Tom i'm just waiting for Gail
she should be here okay yes yeah um no one else is saying online that they are recording 45 review and approve the meeting minutes
for addition resations i don't have any additions resolutions that will just be I I I have something on here sorry the Roselli contract
um okay deletion 4.4 contract with Roselli and Clark for auditing services 26 yeah we're not um that contract is not ready for you guys
to pushing okay um just say for meeting are we having a meeting on the 19th um no I don't think so i didn't think we were okay so I'm just deleting
that for tonight okay and we'll deal with um whatever comes after that the only thing I wanted to change was u Could could I just ask if the other deletion was the memorial hall policy
did that come in it did okay so we're not deleting that for No I have it okay good i reviewed it all right [Music] um no I just want to take uh the warrant
for us to review as the last item so 4.3 4.3 will go to the end of our agenda okay so that may become It's going to become 5.4 4.3 will be
5.4 so 1.5 minutes and um I move to accept the minutes for 311 uh 2025 um it says with the changes as noted but I have changes to add as well
okay so I I don't know where the noted changes are um it's it's on the share SharePoint now oh you don't know what they but they were all there was nothing substantive it was just more the was put in or a was
put in or add or a comma or a word was um changed okay i don't have that in italics or anything or bold okay i have a couple of changes here um under the the joint meeting with the board of
health and uh just that if a flat fee is decided on it will need to be grounded up um and then I didn't know what that was i had two questions and I couldn't figure out and then the other one was I don't understand what this means the
least expensive override would be 480,000 of no trash any task holders no trash it says of um I I don't know i would strike that line
um I don't know what that means so I would strike that sentence completely um everything else okay do you want me to give you this okay um Okay
so motion i thought we did move i move to approve the meeting minutes of 311 2025 with the changes as noted that's what you said i second okay is there any further discussion no no okay roll call veronica
Kelly yeah veronica this is what I need to get we're on 605 one day special license application alcohol by TESAP for fundraiser event on May 4th 2025 from 10:00 a.m to 4 p.m is
there a motion um I move that we approve the one day special license application uh for alcohol by TESSA for the Golathon fundraiser event on 54 2025 with rain date of 5:18 2025 from 10:00 a.m to 400
p.m with serving times from noon to 4 p.m second you want to speak we have this uh whole packet yeah perfect
any discussion um no i just been looking for this wasn't all on um SharePoint so I thought I saw the certified servers or whatever the word for that is the tips card yes yes i have it if you don't have a copy I could get
you one it's in there now okay all right that was the only thing I was looking for when I looked through this before pardon me license condition the the noon to 4 those sorts of conditions is that what you're talking
about and the wine and malt only i was okay with that you got the wrong folder i have I have Yeah yeah that's what we have to sign you want to trade me
i thought it was I have the official one i I think you I have the official one i think that's why she thought I had yours when trade me there's another one uh yeah the it's on the back here
let me give you this it's probably this one it's on It's this one yeah the the ones with the yellow are the to be signed here yes it's in here i I I went through
these I guess it was yesterday and everything wasn't in maybe it was the night before this is Tuesday i usually do it Sunday night i think these were just occurred was this point
it wasn't just Oh you popped it into So these um I'm good with these all right um I already made the M motion i have no additional um conditions
i discuss the documents now we [Music] have I think you got your papers signed no I gave them to you you have them they
have yellow right here oh right here cuz they're in front of me right in front of me all right are you guys aware of the conditions yes all right okay uh Veronica Cal yes
yes so we can sign now for them yes sign do they get a copy of it yes yeah we have plenty of time to get it a different day there's no problem with that i can do it right now
[Music] two i don't know i think these are switched i noticed that too um okay so I'm I'm going to go with the chief's letter correct um so I'm going to change what's
on here [Music] will you make a motion i'll just make it correct yeah so we're at 3.1 andrew Romano is 504 all right the the
um I'm updating what was in the um on the agenda based on what's on in Chief Sartell's letter to us all right okay so 3.1 3.1 um I move to appoint
Nicholas Hemley as probationary full-time police officer to the police department with an effective start date of May 5th 2025 second any further discussion no
veronica Kelly yes laura yes um I move to appoint Andrew Romano as probationary full-time police officer to the police department effective start date May 4th 2025
a second any discussion no hearing none uh Veronica Kelly yes yes are we going to show you thank you have a good fundraiser yes so yes this was a grant um that
um Aaron had worked on before she left we uh we did get the grant um so now we just need to sign the contract with the state so we can get started on our work
this is actually widening the sidewalks along um street let me see if I can pull off guys to see are they redoing the bridge as well i
looked at this and it looked like it was just sidewalks it's it's a separate project it gets kind of confusing because uh there's multiple grants and projects going on in that area okay so let
it it isn't a PowerPoint exactly it's more of a Yeah it's a it's a PDF pdf yeah so So it's in the area of Meadow Road it's um Cross Street you know where the um bridge with the iron rail that's kind of
like really failed that's being replaced so uh that is uh it's this way south it's south yeah um the bridge pieces yeah so this goes from just below cross street so not quite to the um not Oh it
starts further north from that bridge i used to walk that and that there is a sidewalk there and it is very poor yep so there's some pictures here so not only are we gonna fix it we're gonna widen the sidewalk because um I can't
remember exactly what Erin said but it's kind of not to pedestrian standards you actually couldn't like really fit if someone was in a wheelchair yeah or even two people side by side i know yep so I think the goal was like a bike gap yeah
i mean it is technically a sidewalk it's just not wide enough for sort of to be used to pull us So um what we would end up doing is um widening the sidewalk
and travel lanes for in both directions for vehicles will be narrow it's still within um roadway standards it's just a little bit narrower than what it currently is so well how much are you talking is it
just like six week six six weeks six inches wider they show you can see it at the middle go to the current design route 13 at middle school entrance right now it's what does that say four and a half um
and it's 16 and 12 16 and 12 so the redesign widens but includes a strip for um vegetation so it it widens it to seven and a half feet so you can fit multiple people or you could have a
wheelchair and a person that that compacts all right so it's seven and a half they keep a vegetative strip and then they narrow those lanes from 16 feet to 13 ft oh the travel lanes on route 13
so six feet less yeah you went from 13 total i guess total is Yeah more like three and a half each so seven feet so but it's still more than wide enough for a vehicle you know it's just a little bit narrow
it it just it gives a little bit more space to pedestrians so we got this grant um and um so we're looking at Can can we look at before you do that i'd like to Okay so where you are there
scroll it so that we can see at at Meadow Road and at Cross Street the what happens um so this is the redesign at the cross street intersection which is pretty much where the crosswalk is um
again it expands to seven with the vegetated strip and 12 and 12 what it is now if you go to the next one up there it's four and a half two feet 13 and a half 13 and a half so you you are gonna
narrow the travel lanes for the vehicles by a foot and a half on each side and then do I think it's at Meadow Road is the next one going the other direction north so we're traveling north
um did they do Meadow no well this this is where the crosswalk is at the pedestrian bridge keeps the sign the same newer that's at the pedestrian bridge okay so they don't do me word okay so
but cross and meadow kind of look like that all right that's not a matching a grant just to do this it's a complete streets grant yeah it's great so
and then reviewed the contract it's a standard contract from the state so it's it's the only one the state will accept so we couldn't even suggest that we wanted to take it is there a motion
um I move um that we authorize the town administrator Nelson Muik to sign the complete streets grant contract on behalf of the slap board second any discussion no further discussion okay thank
you vote veronica yes laura shipper yes hey thank you to Erin it would be really nice to get a list of all the grants that we found she she looked for a lot of grants that were successful she did for the town well
over I haven't done a tower myself easily over half a million if not three quarters of a million dollars i think it's more than that yeah because this one alone is this one that you just um authorized me the amount
is 478,000 wow right and then there was 350 for the ADA playground there's the extension for the harbor sidewalks there's there's a lot and well in that area on Brooklyn Street there's the
pedestrian bridge they call it the walk bridge yeah that's another 100,000 just for the engineering and design yeah so I think it's over you add it up absolutely well hopefully our
new just as well here's uh really um I'm been really happy with him he um has a lot of attention to detail there's a lot of parts to some of these and I think he's done really well
okay 4.2 letter of support for the associate board of health um I make a motion to authorize the town administrator Nelson Mui to sign and submit the letter of support for the Noba Associated Boards of Health on
behalf of the select board and I'll second that and I just notice that like on the second page that's supposed So you want to speak on this letter of support so um the NOVA associate boards
of health Um they're over here in air you know we use them for a lot of health activities right as well as I think there's a a nurse a nursing component where they do um you
know vaccines and flu shots and things like that so it's a regional um resource that uh a lot of our neighbors use as well um
so I guess in around the 2014 time frame um the show auditors um discovered I guess that they weren't um paying into the pension system because all the employees are actually
part of state pension system so ever since 2014 they've been trying to figure out how to pay for it how much they owe is there opportunity for some sort of abatement given such a large amount that
was undiscovered for many years so they're working with local um representatives senators to actually get a bill passed to address that issue so they're looking for letters 10 years they
working at it and just getting to this point yep and there's no guarantee it's the letters of support really help so I'll probably end up sending them to represent stars to help associate
So that is where this letter of support is going to our representatives okay uh yeah I'm good with this you Veronica Kelly yes yes all
right we deleted 44 first reading of West Town meeting room policy i can't read the green deleted from agenda no but it's not no that's
No you're reading no I'm reading policy no that green is Oh I see and then this Don't do the green it's hard to read lighter green all right so okay but so
then next to the first reading of West Townson's reading room policy this was drafted by town council this would be a first reading discussion and possible
changes to the draft are encouraged yes I'm sure they will be um I'll read it you want me to read it sure uh so it's policy number 03
2025 place policy number rules and regulations the West Townsen reading room is available to any resident or group users may abide by all town policies rules and regulations and execute a rental application the reading room is located
at 264 Dudley Road West Townsen and can accommodate up to 37 people it contains six long tables 10 small square tables folding chairs kitchen with refrigerator stove microwave and dishwasher and
restroom facilities rental fees are and these have not been updated since before 2014 can't find any increases so I have an issue with that
okay but um do we want to change them in this policy um unless there's another place where you have all fees and you want to direct it to just one fee schedule otherwise it
has to be in here i think it needs to be in here okay so we can discuss these after and I'll continue with the reading okay smoking and animals are prohibited on the premises and I have a question about
that as far as fair housing laws go and or if we should put in even parentheses after animals um this does not apply to federal service animals certified however you say that
federal so it does say smoking and animals are prohibited on the premises um and animals with the exception of okay okay now this would not be
ESA these would be actual service animals right okay because it's just this is just for a short period of time rentals are that for the room um a refundable cleaning deposit of $75
is required at the time of rental all trash and belongings must be removed prior to vacating the premises failure to abide the town's rules and regulations or failure to return the room to the
condition in which it was received will receive will result and to be resolved yeah in a picture of the deposit so result um and and I'm okay with the way this
reads versus the town hall policy because this calls it a cleaning deposit under insurance all individuals groups renting the space shall procure and maintain for the duration of the rental
period insurance against claims for injuries to persons or damages to property which may arise from or in connection with the rental of the facilities and the activities of the renter lency their
guests agents representatives employees or subcontractors lency agrees to maintain all necessary insurance to protect itself against claims relating to the use of the facilities lency agrees to provide a certificate of insurance with coverage
acceptable to the town prior to its use of the facility user shall maintain general liability and a1 million dollar minimum limit and $2 million aggregate the town shall be
named as an additional insured on such insurance policy no changes to this insurance may occur within 10 days notice of the town anyone wishing and then the other is the application or it's the second page of
this okay I think it's the second page um anyone wishing to rent the reading room should call or email the select board's office phone number with an extension or select board at
townsenm.gov please fill out and return a signed agreement with a check for the rental fee and the cleaning deposit made out to the town of Townson okay i'm okay with the rest of it now except the
um these so it says it's available to any town and resident or group um so so out oftowners wouldn't be able to rent it is that my understanding
well a nonprofit group could be someone that's out of town but but the first sentence kind of limits who can rent it so I think that might need to be So do you want to go with or nonprofit
um any towns and resident or group no maybe we should just keep it like this so it stays within town that's the way it's been it's not like it's a um My question is on the hours how many It says each
additional hour will be $10 but where is there an hour time limit um is it uh is it in the town hall one maybe wait a minute
oh rental fee for private party and then rental time is five hours that's next to private party so maybe um but is it a rent is the rental time five hours for all groups yeah then we need to pick that up and put that somewhere else it
should be uh rental time is five rental fees are Yeah separate line a separate line rental time is five five hours and then each additional is whatever we will be $10 yeah well um I really think it
should go to um for nonprofit groups renting more than twice a month for one time monthly renters do I have people who use it twice a month yes oh
maybe we should just leave it as it is for now the only thing I would change is the cleaning deposit of 75 i think that should be 100 because if you're if you have to clean it I don't think you're going to get someone to clean it for $75 and
really it should be double that it really should be 150 i would make it a 100 just to keep in mind nonprofit groups who may not have you know the funds you get it back if you haven't you know if you've cleaned up before you
leave you get it back yeah we don't actually cash the check right yeah and that's got to change no why bother taking it well because usually you give it back you know shred it but it's not
right if if the it's a you take it in case if they if the people leave the building in the condition that it was in what makes you think the checks any good if you don't know
well and then you're stuck with whatever damages i mean I would have the same thing about the town hall or the work of our facilities people to take care of it and that's going to cost more than uh a bounce
check i think the problem I'm just being realistic i think the problem becomes uh if you actually deposit the check and then you have to cut them a check afterwards if everything is okay that's that's administrative work that the
staff now need to do and that's you know it's not our you take cash and give a cash receipt and then it goes in whatever box and then you're not messing with the bookkeeping i I don't think it I mean you could do that i
don't think it specifies you know the the form of payment here does it i I don't remember seeing that the only change I would make is I would make the refundable cleaning deposit
$100 because if in fact you have to clean the building you you would keep that and it wouldn't pay for it wouldn't cover the cost to the probably not not in this day and age no so I you know
here we are with our budget and what we want to cut but then we want to give away and it could end up costing us a lot more money i mean nonprofits are used to having uh to make deposits for events and stuff like
that so so what do you suggest i think the cleaning should be at least 150 and I think the rentals are too low but that's my
opinion and I I think a check is worthless that's only because I deal with it a lot so well maybe we can compromise it'll still be a check but uh we increased the
dep and we up the fees you know up for discussion that ends up looking like You're right they apparently they they haven't changed these rates in like at least 10 years more than 10 years 10 years it's been a long time it's a
pretty good deal I would say certainly for a private party five hours for $75 that's only $15 an hour really i mean where do you get a place for less
than 25 an hour i mean it's it's nice for a it's nice for a small party where are you going to go with like 30 people and be able to cook and serve and you know have the bathrooms and have the parking for your guests that's cheap
even $100 for $5 cheap yeah it is so we could change these then to what we should change them i'm good with um for people that use it twice a month and this is all the time you
know 40 bucks because twice a month let's make it 35 but then the one time a month nonprofits make that 60 75
75 and I I really want the private party one to be um Make that 100 50 i want I said 150 you said 100 i was I was talking about the cleaning the closet um
Oh that that too has to go off but the um the rental fee for 5 hours for a private party it's not a nonprofit they're having a private party 100 bucks i mean make it 125 then
okay and Okay and then the cleaning is going to go to what 125 and what about the hourly rate um 15 okay i've made up the notes on here
Sabrina so we can have that done for the second reading and we'll be looking at what's our next meeting after the birth after the time oh 29 yeah okay uh
second right and uh we had a motion and a second discussed uh I don't think we had a motion oh um I don't This is just a first reading oh we don't need a motion right
okay very good thank you um no memorial policy who did the red line okay okay here's where you see the
[Music] um this is also a first reading this is I think an amendment of a policy already here first reading well it would be it would be a revision a revision or a revision is it a revision
or a replacement no it's not a replacement it doesn't say that it is okay revision all right are you okay with it or do you want it to be replacement uh no i'm good okay so this is revision well it says replace policy
number 99-2 oh it does this is O2 2024 up at the top that was from before when it was um voted in by the previous board oh um this is yeah this is
chision now because the body of the policy is getting okay so all right yep so we're not replacing this is a revision and then it would be
03 2025 04 because I think oh we're 04 So yeah the replace would change to the one that was loaded in last time i didn't change that one yet so the 99 was before
yeah okay so that will be corrected i'm good with the red line um we need to read these oh should I read i now I understand why the change was made
to the email address this is what I understand it was changed from selectman at townsmma.gov to select board okay um actually we need to go through and do this on everything
don't we yeah um let me just look at the one we just read is that updated as well i don't think they had um Yes it was okay all right so do you want to read it Laura i
I can okay because it's the first reading okay so policy for use of Memorial Hall Auditorium there's a revision to policy number 99-2 all inquiries or requests for
scheduling the use of Ision is to the number that was in last time oh and this is not the right number it's O2 2024 so this is a revision to O24
okay all right let me start again this is the first reading of the policy for use of Memorial Hall auditorium it is policy
number 02-2024 the revision to that correct okay all inquiries or requests for scheduling the use of the memorial hall auditorium will be handled by the select board to inquire about scheduling an
event call 978-597-1700 extension 1703 or submit a written request to the office of the select board 272 main street towns and mass 01469 email select board at
townsenma ma.gov no more than two events may be scheduled in any one day the auditorium is available Friday Saturday and Sunday
only unless special arrangements are made town entities may auditorium do I have to do the crossout no also I'm reading no okay so I'm gonna read it
states we should um the auditorium seven days a week if available a calendar will be maintained for scheduling events events must conclude before midnight
with cleanup completed no later than 100 a.m rental includes usage of 228 chairs available six large white folding tables
as well as six short white folding tables memorial Hall capacity of number of person per certificate of inspection by story and by place of assembly
location capacity chairs only 178 capacity tables and chairs 83 capacity standing only 250 stage 30 insurance all individuals groups renting
the space shall procure and maintain for the duration of the rental period insurance against claims for injuries to persons or damages to property which may arise from or in connection with the rental of the facilities and the
activities of the renter license their guests agents representatives employees or subcontractors l E agrees to maintain all necessary insurance to protect itself against claims relating to use of
the facilities l C agrees to provide a certificate of insurance with coverage acceptable to the town prior to its use of the facility users shall maintain general liability with a million dollar minimum limit a $2 million aggregate the
town shall be named as an additional insured on such policy on such insurance policy no changes to this insurance to this insurance may occur within 10 days notice to the town
prior arrangements must be made with the facility department superintendent for all special services such as any use of decorations special seating arrangements special equipment as the projector microphone stage lights etc delivery and
removal of equipment the organization or individual wishing to rent the hall shall be sponsored by a towns and resident or entity and complete an application for use of Memorial Hall with necessary waiverss about the
applicant responsible for all fees associated with use of the auditorium which includes custodial services are payable one prior to the event and shall be charged as follows town boards
committees departments governmental use note charge towns and nonprofits community groups $100 for the first three hours and $25 for any hour over that private
events $150 for the first three hours and $50 for any hour over that seems to be a little bit more in line but then it is a bigger space all department all departmental
users are required to submit a $50 security deposit security deposit shall be destroyed after after each event by the select board office provided there are no
damages to the town property um attributable to the event and the premises were left in good condition as determined by the town the user shall remain responsible for all damages above
and beyond the amount of security deposit reservations shall be made on a first come basis no reservations shall be considered until all forms waiverss and security deposit have been received
a police detail may be required for events final determination based on the event and other factors will be made by the select board in conjunction with the chief of police a 4-hour minimum
detail with a minimum of 24-hour notice is required the organization is required to arrange for the police detail and to pay the cost of saying if town property is damaged during the event the security
deposit shall be utilized by the town for the repairs any balance of the funds remaining in in the security deposit after completion of repairs will be returned to the organization or
individual the organization or individual shall remain liable for and shall promptly pay to the town any repair costs in excess of the security deposit food and beverages may be served but no
alcoholic beverages or on-site food preparation is allowed no smoking is allowed on the property or within the building additional parking is available at municipal parking lot off of Bank Terrace the select board reserves the
right to reject any and all applications and that was first reading um is is there No I don't this is just the first reading oh that's right i'm sorry doing that discussion
um my only question is uh is kind of on both of these policies and this is the first reading um is the uh Gladfelder is that the insurance company are they being notified of these changes and we talked about that a few
months ago changed what yeah once it's changed once it's changed so after the second reading yeah they were actually the ones to um suggest that we um have an insurance um requirement yeah for
All right all right so second reading coming up so any changes for second reading i didn't have any i'm good with this i'm good with the $50 security
deposit i'm not that does seem low i am I'm just not but the fees itself were changed recently right you said Yeah well this this one would be a little bit over a year ago but for the amount of space
it's still very low i'm okay with it per hour after but I think that the initial fee is too low and that the security deposit should match the
fee at minimum like I I think it should be 150 and two and that's still cheap well considering uh we're changing the time security deposit to 125 that's a much smaller
area i mean well we could we could change the security deposit i'd be okay with that 250 i was going to say 125 to match the um No it's a bigger space though they're using more they're using more
um chairs tables electric then I would go with 150 for the security deposit and the fees i would leave the fees as is these were just set a year ago how many times has the hall been
used twice in a year private or nonprofit private it's not heavily advertised yeah okay i do think that 50 is low if there's damage that's what I think
yeah and they're responsible for cleaning up so hopefully there it's cleaned up and there's no damage but if there if it's not cleaned up and there is damage
that's nowhere near enough all right um 150 I think i mean you can disagree with me well I I'm just trying to
be sensible about it i I'm trying yeah well no I'm okay i'm going to go with with what you'll agree with okay okay so it's 150 on the security and the the charges stay the same the same yes and the next reading will be on
April 19th 29 beyond sad thing all right um okay so we did six okay so uh town minister reports
um I do want to um plug the uh upcoming property auctions that's happening for the the town own properties that you know we had
town meeting agreed to you know sell so that um auction is occurring on May 5th at uh 12 o'clock I believe let me just Yes I have it right here okay yep perfect yep
so uh Monday May 5th at 12:00 um here in the um select chambers I believe and um the the auction company involved is very um advertising it you know through
their you know normal channels you know to public outreach so uh we've used them in the past before so we've had good luck with them so we're hoping to uh have another successful
auction so that we can some get some money it will be certified for free cash for uh you know later this calendar year yeah so we can
maybe do some projects um add on some deficits so just wanted to plug that upcoming auction that's I believe it's in the great hall oh it's in the great hall sorry it just said
second floor yeah it makes sense i was in the great hall last time it wasn't a chance oh got it did you have a lot of people oh wow try to attend that would be interesting yeah so okay
i'll be I'll be here um I didn't have it in my calendar though i'll put it there yep well that's good i know about it okay um what else um um yeah so I think everything is all set
from a presentation perspective i spoken to David Tam who he's reached out to his counterparts in Pull they'll be assisting with the setup and reporting of everything um
I've coordinated things with the staff over the high school um so I think we should be all set i am still um finalizing the presentation itself so I've added a few things here and there so um I'll
continue working on that tomorrow and yeah I think we should be good to go i do plan to do most of the talking um Irene will be doing a quick presentation on sort of the curbside trash
program and I have a few slides regarding that too so I think a lot she'll be repeating some of the things I've said but she's also gonna sort of add her spin to it as well i think last week um last week's meeting was going to be a similar presentation
valerie from the library oh so uh yeah I think we decided that um uh they wouldn't make a separate presentation um and you know she had a good point did you get to see this
that was sent out yeah very nice very informative yep so thank you to the library for doing that friends of the library friends of the library so uh Valerie and you know the trustees
they they will be there um if any questions come up they'll they'll answer it but I think them making a separate presentation they're they've uh declined that too who's that um friends of the library oh trustees um
so I will in my PowerPoint presentation I'll be sort of advocating and speaking on behalf all all the various town departments um services they provide even though um I won't necessarily be
hitting on every single service that each department provides because that take all night so it's just sort of a high level services that you know each department um provides um but they were invited to be on hand correct yeah it's
not mandatory but you know if a question were to come up it would be nice for someone in that department to be able to speak about it you know if I'm not able to um but I didn't necessarily make attendance mandatory or make a
requirement so um yeah I'll certainly do my best and I think we will as well to advocate for all departments because every department is just as important as the other one um so
yeah and then um you know we'll go straight into the question and answer portion of the I anticipate our presentation to be 30 to 40 minutes talk and then Irene's is probably five to seven minutes I
think we'll be done within 45 minutes and then the rest of the time will be for question and answers there'll be a I think there will a microphone on both aisles so people can just sort of line up and John will moderate
how long do we have the auditorium for um I think I put in for 10 hours but I think if it went I mean not 10 hours uh ending at 10 sorry ending at 10 okay i think 10 should be more than enough time
but I suppose it went over you know okay when are we going there when are we leaving there well it starts at 7 i plan to be there a little bit early just to get the talk to the folks who are setting
things up um so I'm probably going to be there 6:15 just to make sure everything is you know working yeah like I said just a delay after um anything else um nope i think
tomorrow I'll just you know be um up the presentation practicing a little bit okay reports i have not okay i will just um Um but planning board last
night warrant articles are all set excellent we had the public hearing and uh we had a couple of attendees that uh asked questions that we basically been asked before and I think you've
been u spoke to this person as well um and I think everybody I think I think that she understood that we she hers was on the um acreage decrease to the one acre and everybody
on the board just went with we have the departments that take care of that we do the planning the departments that that issue the permits are the building inspector the board of health and the water department and hybrid they're the ones that are
going to say yay or nay and I use the example because I you seem not to be convinced i'm not but it's fine of a 5.5 acre parcel that has wetlands that has
um lot actually lots of restrictions and has a failed title five and has to remove the current system because there is no place else on the 5.5 acres that it will go now when you have an acre lot or a quarter acre lot which most of they
talked about last night most of Main Street is the only difference and it was not brought up but the only difference is that most of Main Street does have public water but if you're on an acre sandy
soil with a well you will get a good septic system in and you should get and there's no conservation no you'd have to have town water to do a 55 and over oh 55 and over yes for that it's it's town water are
you talking about MBTA communities no we're not even there no we're just talking about the water you have to have water and number okay so it is town water and it's if you have good soil you can build
for 55 and 55 that's this one the other the other hasn't hasn't changed yet but um it's really snob zoning was brought up it wasn't my words but it was somebody else
on and um the town has been through it and because of it we don't have the growth that we should have had by now but most of the country is like that anyway so we should be fine on those articles is what I'm saying
um and I don't think I have any other one to really report on um I can't wait till we have a third person so we can split it up more um
5.3 announcements have on April 9th from Shepard Fire Chief is that the first name i think it's Austin i think there's a a letter
missing okay austin Matis has submitted his resignation from the towns and fire department effective April 8th 2025 and attaches a copy of his retirement
notice oh it is awesome only thank him for his service and another letter April 11th 2025 for Leman the Historic District Commission Julia Stockwell has submitted her
resignation from the Townsen Historic District Commission effective April 10th 2025 at the close of the April 10th 2025 HDC meeting
attaches copy of the retirement notice service am I supposed to read the chapter section just this is how they design so thank you to Julie Stalls as
well for all your years of service and I will use this forum then to say there are plenty of volunteer positions there are uh still several elected positions that will be vacant on April
28th when you're voting so please encourage people to either write themselves in tell their friends what they would like to do and have them write you in so that these position can positions can be filled
i've also um talked to people a lot about volunteering and uh one of them happens to be a tech guy and he let me know today that he did fill in his form i sent you the
name online so I don't know if and I didn't I didn't ask him again because this was like last week when we were talking and when I got done with an uh an issue today he said "Oh by the way I did fill out the volunteer form." And he
said "I didn't know exactly what to put but he wrote a cover letter with it saying that he would um like to do anything he's very into civics he worked for Senator Cronin um I guess on the campaign and uh he's a
senior at North Middle Sex okay yeah i'd like to see more of them coming up getting involved is what we need um okay so now I think that will bring us to
uh 5.4 which is going to be or I don't know however we were switching this around but I switched the 4.3 to now the end of the meeting and this is the warrant and this is going to take us a little bit of
time so did we get a copy of the warrant I have I have a copy that's pages I don't have the latest to you um Oh here it is here it is okay
um Thank you so yeah so as you know there's um the special town meme that's embedded within the annual town meeting um this year's special town mean articles are pretty light because usually they're free cash articles and
since we don't have any really free cash left um it's going to be nothing to spend yeah so it's going to be a pretty light um special town meeting so um we probably should just go over that first um oh I did want to add
[Applause] um I had an idea that you know of not having town meeting here in town hall um you know in past years it's been at a school which um provides more parking
more accessibility um typically the auditoriums are even bigger as well so you will end up fitting more folks I think in the past um this was actually the overflow room when um Memorial Hall
got full so um I've been working behind the scenes to see if we can have a no town meeting at the the high school auditorium um spoke to John Barrett this morning um he was okay with that um I I
think um it being a Does the high school have it available they do and I'm going to work um I I need still need to talk to the person directly to see if it's what that would take but um all
indications point to it being available so uh I'm gonna work on that to see if we can have it at the high school this year i I just think given it's um an override year I think you know we may
end up seeing more more folks than normal attending town meeting to really listen and vote on the budget so um I I want um a large enough space to accommodate and the same kind of layout with the
mics on either side yeah I'll need to work out the details with like locationwise where the mics would be cam um but you know we can work that out you know in the coming week i just
want to make sure um the space is available so I should be able to button that out sometime tomorrow are you sure that Veronica yes absolutely so and I think the auditorium does hold more people as well i forget the
capacity but certainly more than Oh it's bigger than here yeah yep so plenty of parking and I think the the sound system is um more advanced than what we currently have so I think um people in that in the
back can probably hear better than than here here at the great hall well we'll have a dry run tomorrow night that's right we will that's right yep it will be practice so um so at the moment um the Warren article doesn't have the the
high school auditorium as the address okay but um like I said I think by tomorrow I'll have that buttoned up when does this have to be posted this has to be posted uh next week um next Tuesday I
believe so between now and then um I'm going to have Adam look at it i already sent him sort of um the draft version over the weekend for him to at least take a look at um I don't there hasn't really been a lot of changes since then
he's just reviewing it for form you know legal form um you know he's not really looking at necessarily and what you sent him has the planning board it did not so I need to send a separate
email to him and I told him as much that um he's approved them all y those three were his so it should be a very light lift for those three articles okay um so um so yeah so just wanted to bring that
to everyone's attention before we dive into things okay um so in terms of um special town meeting articles the first one is pretty standard we have voted to hear any reports from boards committees
or commissions and then we and then we um go into the uh what page which I see I see this one is headed special so what what page you start the rest after the
special um I think I I think I need to print this one for you let me just do that right now is that different from what I have i think so i think what I have given you I haven't separated them out yet okay
all right thank you [Music] well this is just special And you know if I miss something we can obviously add to it later that's why we're kind of having the discussion um
so yeah the first one we're just um voting to hear um reports from various boards committees or [Music] commissions and then we're going to go into the actual financial articles and we're going to be
um transferring them from free cash to um to cover the uh snow and ice deficit do we have enough we don't have free cash well we we have a little bit um and
what's what's interesting is um um the highway superintendent came to me this morning um you know there was a storm over the weekend which we did end up they were out yep they we end up spending some money um but
uh Highway ended up finding a um a salt invoice that um they hadn't um it slipped through the cracks so um and they they were notified by the vendor like where's payment so looked it
up turns out it was a legitimate expense so um snow the snow and ice deficit is actually at um 30774 and we don't have the money for that is that going to change in this article uh I'm going to increase it a little bit um
but but I guess what it comes down to is there's actually not enough free cash to cover the full deficit so um what we'll have to do towards the end of the fiscal year is um either do a municipal transfer or um you know we we'll talk to
the finance committee and see if they can uh vote to um cover the deficit partly or entirely by their um by their reserve fund so what will the motion
look like for this um so the amount that um I'm going to have to adjust it to is just um it's going to be 291600 from free cash
okay yep and then it will be Yes quick question the um the bill for the salt is that included in that number yes the bill for the salt would be in the
bad bills article separate article for that bill that's what I was going to say but if it's if it was from last fiscal year no it's for it was from this year it was this year it was just like um it was just a few months ago like earlier
in the winter season i I think we have to think about this because if the motion is to take from free cash and you have to say where you're taking the money from is my understanding if we're going to say from free cash we can't say any more than the free cash that we have
correct and so the bill remaining because it's snow and ice has to be handled somehow um in another article okay i think but check on that i current
it's just that it's snow and ice well yeah there's not enough so that's why I was saying the bill needs to be paid because it's it's during this fiscal year so I think the only two viable options is to do a municipal transfer towards the end of the fiscal
year or um or or request um a um make a request of finance committee to do a um transfer from their uh from their uh reserve fund
or or the other one actually there's a third option uh I forgot to mention and I did think about it this morning is um it's like a we would just reclass it if we would reclass some of the snow and
ice expenses is if there was sufficient money in the highway expenses budget okay yep um let's just hope there's no more snuff between now and they So does it
So if that's the case does then the highway department find where to get the money in their budget uh that's maybe that is one option uh but if they're kind of running on fumes towards the end
then we would have to do the those two um choice options that I I mentioned which is a municipal fund transfer from other parts of the operating budget or um other than highway correct
or uh you know putting a request to the finance committee to use some of their um reserve fund to you know to cover the difference okay yeah so all right
so that's not the number that's going to be in there because you're stating from free cash in the motion that's yeah the the this the 20 will there be two motions then under that warrant
article no this one for the 250 and one for the remainder what what 250 were you you mean the 2916 i mean oh yeah the whole thing there's no free cash and I I left a few dollars in
um free cash i think it was like uh let me just see what that is i left $54 in there i didn't want to That's good i didn't want to spend every penny i know my math is correct but nonetheless I wanted to I didn't want to completely
trans i wanted to just leave a few dollars in there so so that's the I would say the the big article for the special town um it's not I got to delete that header
it's not zoning by laws and adoptions um it's a capital expense actually I don't know um what what is that no it's a it's the wrong heading that's why I need to get rid of that it's not
a It's a financial article yeah and I forget what the um I think these are majority but I'm not certain i'll leave that up to you and Adam or John Bar i think John John No Adam
would definitely know yeah yeah i think it is a capital financial article but I'll I'll double check to see what it's whether it's the majority or the twothirds correct right
um so the first one um and we by the way we kind of had already discussed all this at a prior select board meeting when we were um voting on what capital projects to do for next fiscal year
so um the first one um there's a list of three old articles that um we've decided could be repurposed um for other projects um so these three will total
53,78474 and those line items go away correct once you get this they'll be zeroed out and then there'll be a new line for the 53 and change and uh the purpose of that amount will be for the memorial hall
exterior um renovations including trim painting and storm windows um and this should be pretty close to the uh the amount that we had uh in mind for the project we might need to come up
with a few dollars ourselves it's a ton of money and then the the last one that I have is um closing out those three projects listed that total 26
32920 um and then we're going to zero out those projects and put that amount towards the capital stabilization these are all fire articles right yes and the chief was here that night i was
here yeah he okay March 18th I think was the meeting he okayed everything so as far as I can tell that's those are the only articles for the special town meeting now when we go over the annual town meeting articles maybe you feel
like there's one that can be shifted to special town meeting so I'm okay with that that's what we're here for just to those changes These are going back to what did you say capital stabilization okay yeah
i'm going to write it over okay i know they they've used a lot of that do we know what the balance is there now capital stabilization 87,000 and some odd it's on without the 26 without the 26 yes but there's going
to be articles at the annual town meeting that's going to eat into that of course those changes then this the special and you know after we're done we'll we'll make the motion to um you know
sign a session contingent on um you know town council approval And um so how would we account for because I'm still working on it um there's still some things I need to finalize um how do
we get work that into the motion well what is the motion well um I the article that you see here I'm gonna have to tweak some of it really it's really the the dollar figures on certain um
articles i would just say um for articles three special town meeting um as discussed pending town council review but would that take into account any changes that I end up making between now
and then what changes would you make the amount for free for snow and ice it would be um some articles in the annual town meeting and it's mainly let's go to the annual town meeting and talk to it right and we can talk about if be in
here or not so what you had I think before should everything else the order might be a little bit jumbled but you know we'll just mark it up as we come along okay so this is the annuals oh that says special on top yeah so don't don't worry about
the the the first page yeah um but the first article similar to the special town meeting is um vote to hear um reports from boards committees and commissions that's the first article okay
y um well no the first one is to to see if the ter No I think it's on page one there yeah but that's here too yeah you that's fine um it's it's just uh it's not in
order i'm used to it always being only on the annual town meeting but apparently last year it was on both it was um Yeah so I that the article to hear the reports of boards committees or commissions one of the meetings in my earlier experience had only been on the
annual um but but apparently it was on the special and the annual last year i don't know i I guess it doesn't hurt but I don't know yeah I I I looked at it and
what was posted um for the annual and special had that same article on both of them on both of them yeah okay but only last year i didn't go back um two years ago um I was just sort of going off what
probably people I don't think it hurts yeah i don't think it hurts so I'm I'm good either way cuz you you're doing special
votes you're going to open the meeting and I think you hear the special votes in the beginning you don't go right to special do you you open the annual and then you open and then you open you I don't know I won't use the
right word and people are you know judging my words so but anyway um uh then you move to the special town meeting and then adjourn the special and come back to the annual so whatever the term for that is okay and usually you
open the annual and then ask to go to the special and then come back to the annual then you only need to see uh to see if the town will vote to hear reports once
you can ask ask John or Adam they will know but I figured it was better safe than sorry because it was done i'm just thinking of who is there a difference between hearing the
reports prior to certain special things you got to vote on so there's going to be different reports when we get and and um because you adjourn the special I think it's possible and that's why it's better safe than sorry because you may
hear reports in the special town meeting because in past years when there have been free cash articles you know certain departments may need to speak on that but this this comes before the reports
come before you go into the articles it's not a discussion after a motion right i just just check on that that's all yeah it's not typically the special town meeting is so that you can get financials done in the current fiscal
year in fiscal year 2025 everything that's in the annual town meeting is July 1st on so the reason to do things and usually it's financial stuff that needs to happen in in the
fiscal year 2025 right that's on okay all right um so I think we were hoping to get some of the So I think in past years bylaws have
always been at the end um not a good idea so I'm okay with switching it up you know it's not going to take any more or less time when you do things out of order so doesn't really matter to me so if that's the case then I I think maybe
the first big article that we discuss is the age restrictive so you're going to do the zoning bylaws first and the budget last as the last article i'm good with that we want to keep a form
right so um so you know so if you want to mark it up in terms of keeping track of the order at the moment okay so so um Sabrina that's your job uh are you going to do things okay before you get to the planning board are
you going to do uh authorize to um make appointments are you going to do that stuff or just That's pretty easy like preliminaries whatever you would see let's talk about the order of the articles so what's article one the
reports article two is um we can do a pointing people and we I guess we could go right into the bylaws okay so then article three how many planning board bylaws are there
three so it's the FEMA FUD lane wait hold on let me just add my order so okay not scrolling back and forth uh we'll just say the first one is the age restricted development okay article
three is age restricted then article four would be the zoning map adoption article five would be flood plane the zoning map and the flood plan are two separate things they are they are
correct the map one is just to adopt the map uh south yes and then the flood plane actually has a bunch of language that this is the law i thought we weren't changing zones
zones what's the What's the zoning map okay never mind never mind i mean let's just keep going it's our regular map that now includes the flood areas okay so does order matter which one are
we doing first i don't think it matters because the flood plane article is the law that we have to adopt there's actually a law that the state is mandating okay the map is to update our maps to match that law
correct so should we do the FE FEMA flood plane map first I think and then the zoning bio okay or the zoning map okay all right whatever the order is Adam okay and here you go
okay so that was So now we're on article six which um could be the the standard um
revolving fund spending limits okay oh that reminds me though i'm sorry um is that a separate article to add the Yes oh okay you can put it either before or after i would put it
after i think I think that's how it was done in the past but again that's a town council question should be up higher it should be right after the revolving accounts I thought
i I don't have what you have so I'll I'll make sure that So article seven is the new revolving account yes correct seven and that mirrors the police public
records requests um but it's for town hall public records requests correct what I see is that this law is the Seven pages
yep that sounds about right okay and you're going to have to take the town hall public records requests out of the table for article six because it's going to be covered in article 7 yep yep i thought I had done that somewhere i thought you did too
yeah all right i'll But I'll I'll make sure it's there okay um so that's number seven so number eight shouldn't be address no I thought
it was the prop yeah keep that to the end so let's see so number eight we could do um the the salary and compensation for
elected officials basically the town clerks we have to do that after the omnibus because we um set that in the omnibus oh okay got it that that makes sense it's always the article right after the budget and the water
department is before after the on the bus after okay so then let's go to uh Can we even do capital um at the moment because the police the cruisers article
the capital goes after the omnibus okay got it uh we could do the uh we do the the six wheel no that has to you have to do article eight okay um which articles come after the on
the bus so obviously it's not usually it's set the salary for elected officials then usually it's capital um you can do or you can do water enterprise usually it's capital and then any water articles um
um all right so we'll table that on access we do that before everything else though right no because that's in the on the bus as well sort of um peg access is usually before the planning board off um articles
is where PEG access usually is well but that's so that's already money that's in their account so it doesn't have anything to do with the budget per se only the recap
right um I I Is that in SharePoint yeah check point and you know we can always look at last year's how many as you know temple So peg access was towards the
end so yeah I think the order that I have it now is pretty standard there's a couple of things that are that will come before the end of this and that will be the
CPA no CPA is at the end that's a bylaw we're not going to put the bylaws at the end oh we're going to do the CPA bylaw okay so that means we have to add an article um article six then is not the revolving funds article six is the CPA
bylaw and then what about um the citizens petition for the number of the board that should come before the young of us as well okay then we can do that as article seven i guess I I
this is why I didn't I I don't have any order of anything in the papers I have so I don't know what to do with I I just I probably should put on a spreadsheet just monkey around
um Sabrina are you taking are you keeping track at the moment can we just um I mean can we just put all the the special is one thing then we put all the financial stuff at the bottom and all the other stuff we have to do for bylaws and change in policy
whatever that is do that first and then go to financial it it's here's the devil's advocate here okay so we do all those first there's a lot of discussion we never get to the budget
because it's midnight and everybody is arguing back and forth about all the planning bylaws that assumes that all the planning bylaws are going to pass um and that's fine if that's the way we want to do it but I think we have
to because sometimes all those bylaws take a long time to to talk out um and so so I guess the question is are we going to do we want to weight it towards
the planning bylaws and the zoning bylaws and all bylaws bylaws first and then basically have had public hearings are interested in the bylaws they should be checking that as well as the budget well just like the budget has
had months and months of meetings yeah um and uh you know nobody looked at it until the special town meeting in March so you know it's the same difference so I guess um I don't mind putting the planning things first two or three
nights for a annual meeting and and we may still may not get to the budget stuff on on the first day which is if that's what we want to do then then we put all the
planning stuff first maybe it'll encourage people not to I don't know i I don't know um whatever you guys want to do is good with the thing is we can't we can't keep doing the bylaws for last and then
quorum leaves right and so then you have it on another day in the budget or the school budget or whatever but their issue is over so they leave and then a quorum is called so I I don't think that that is
in the best interest of the town as a whole it's it's just a different way to do it i mean so we can do the planning stuff first if So it would be however we want to do it that's good
with me but looking at these bylaws the ones that need to stay till after the budget passes is the one that sets elected officials salaries so that stays here i'm I'm trying to get through this omnibus
budget here in this SharePoint thing um because we don't have it in hard copy exactly the set right only one elected um the the other people that get paid are not elected really they're appointed
and that's the election workers okay um so anyway it just sets all salaries to fix the salaries and compensation and you don't want to do that until after you've done the budget all right then there's the water enterprise
all right and then there's the capital these and you know two capital articles um one from other sources and one from borrowing so we can take out the the one where that joins together the memorial
hall that can go away and the ones that join together the old capital planning that we've put in special town meeting so those go away and that leaves us with PEG
access and um the two uh hero act um and and we're are we moving the citizen petition for a five member board up to the front
with the bylaws okay as policy has to do with money so that comes after the omnibus budget okay that's not all over the place the citizens petition will be after the
zoning bylaws correct and before the um revolving funds and then we need a new revolving fund article and that's after the budget no that is
that's after the regular revolving fund right what do you have for CPA that's right yes I agree with you article eight then is the revolving
funds article nine is the new revolving fund article 10 is the prop two and a half article 11 is the omnibus article 12 let me get through this is the fixing the salaries of elected officials
to fix salaries and compensation on elected up officers that's 12 13 uh no 13 is the water department i don't have it here i don't either
um is water i have it in here yeah um article 14 is the um capital plan with highway facilities police and
water what number was that 13 14 14 water is 13 okay 15 is the um plow [Music] borrowing uh the next article would be
um there's there's something else that needs to there's other stuff that PEG peg access but before PEG access don't we need 10,000 for the um periodic inspections and property data where is that the
assessors you can do that yearly after capital after capital I would do that after Capital um is that 15 16 I think capital is 14 so is plow 15
plow is 15 16 is the um assessors 17 is peg access 18 is hero one 19 is hero 2 so tell me what the first few are first
is report 17 first is reports yep second is appointing yep um sometimes those are reversed but it can go either way third is age restricted fourth is um adopting
the law for FEMA blood plane fema blood plane and five is the zoning map accepting the zoning map one second while I change that order here okay six is the CPA bylaw that's right
that's the one that's messed up and then seven is citizen petition eight is the regular revolving nine is the new revolving 10 is prop two and a half mhm 11 is the
um omnibus budget 12 is uh setting the um salaries okay 13 is water department 14 is capital one
15 is the snow plow capital two um 16 is the assessors 17 is peg access y 18 is hero one 19 is
hero2 y and that's it that's it i have it too i think we all have it yeah that's why I didn't want to number anything because I knew we were just going to completely change everything okay so to your first statement
should anything come out of the annual to go into the special right no okay okay no because that's all all of those are fiscal year 2026 things okay okay
unless Yeah it's all fiscal year 2026 none of it is fiscal year 2025 the the two capital that are in 25 are are combining of articles that already exist to put money into
stabilization and to allow facilities to start the work before July 1st on the town hall which gives you more time to do things when the weather's nice so um my point earlier about making
changes between now and when you know do a final review and sign it um the water department um I'm actually meeting with Dave on Thursday morning to finalize that number so
um it's not going to be final final until after I meet with him i don't think the numbers can change all that much but we do expect some changes so um so the question is how
would we uh uh word the motion to take into account those changes you know would it could we just say continue upon select board review would that be sufficient those
numbers uh no the numbers that are in the warrant can be changed in the motion that's made on the floor that is true uh but and that's typically what we've done right that number is frequently an estimate yeah yeah I agree um many are
changed and I do but I do want to hit as you know a solid a number as possible um well absolutely but it it is frequently a um let me find your article
yeah i mean this is frequently it frequently changes on the floor yeah because it does say there's a caveat like or any other sum you know there's always that that's why it's in the warrant that way and then the motions are specific yeah
correct so so okay but I I think um what we have here is is the all the I don't see any other articles being added if that's what you're saying um well now that you bring it up um I
can't think of anything that would be left out everything right and everything had to be in weeks ago lori for the changing number should there be um just a request for a placeholder for the number or
No we we typically put a number in you need to have a number in the warrant there's a number there is a dollar amount um but I think talking to Dave is going to change slightly but I don't think it's going to change that much um
but I think it would be wonderful why not um I not sure yet i I'll have to I'll have to get together um to get the final one but yeah I think uh this is it you know 19 articles for
the annual town meeting is it three or four for the special so three I think it's three or is it four if you include the the um for snow and ice and the two
combining warrant articles so and then if you do [Music] um reports that makes it four it's a short short special town um so yeah that's uh that's what I have
for the annual town meeting thank you for moving things around you know I like the the teamwork all right so I am looking at this how are we gonna um I move that we approve the special
town meeting warrant and the annual town meeting warrant um with the ordering as presented during this meeting contingent upon town council review and to sign both warrants out of
session second any further discussion i have none welcome uh Veronica Ke yes and yes thank you thank you for your hard work i
worked on it all over the weekend luckily it was kind of a crummy weekend that's true okay so 5.4 our next meeting is April 16th 7 p.m budget override public forum
green to read the green our next regular meeting April 22nd meeting as well there will Um I'm not here i don't think there's a need for if we've signed the warrant out of
session there's really no need right and plus you can actually I can do virtual if you need me but No well I mean we you can actually even be stamped i I checked on
that for what um the the the warrant the warrant articles they have to be posted on the 22nd the 21st is a holiday so there will be no posting on the 21st it'll be on the 27th would it be ready on Friday
um it's up to Adam you know he needs to review everything so Okay but but what I'm saying is you sent it to him already except you just don't have the numbers on it well I I didn't send him the the planning board ones but like you said he
looked at all yesterday so I think it's a pretty I sent it to him on Sunday just to give him ample time because I think he's actually going to be away for a day or two this week um so with us last night he was at the public hearing right but I think he has
some time off coming up this week okay um but regardless um okay you know signing out of session you can also use your stamp if you're not allowed okay so you just give us the final blessing and you know as long as I can see it before
Yeah yep so we'll do that on Tuesday um is a is Monday an actual holiday for town in here yes it's it's Patriots day oh oh it's Massachusetts holiday yeah and it is a town hall is closed and Kathy so if we're going to meet on the
22nd we have to post on Thursday yeah i I don't anticipate us meeting next Tuesday so Oh that's I actually didn't think Monday
was a holiday for us if you think um that we may need to meet before Uh the annual town meeting well we're meeting on the 29th that's after
no oh okay i don't think we need to meet before the time election we don't um it'll it's a nice break actually no we don't yeah I don't think we need to meet next week so as long as I see the warrant Yep um yeah once it's ready I
I'll obviously send it to to you guys to give it a final look through but at that point um town council review it okay so and I appreciate you agreeing with the um layout yeah it's fine it just means
that we could have to have a a second meeting that week to do the budget you would have to have a tab of the uh planning board articles or any of the bylaw articles because people will leave after the budget
so it so we're trying so we need to re we need to tentatively reserve if we're using the high school both the sixth and the eth um so I've never I never thought about
that earlier um so is that I assume that's allowed even though the the the posting of the warrant is only for Yes it is oh yeah you continue the annual meeting to another day
yeah up to the moderator to continue it or they continue to So it could be the following night or some other night yep okay he knows He knows how to do it okay and he's been through it before have that Has that happened oh yeah oh
yeah oh yeah oh yeah used to happen a lot years ago it was every year that's what it was you go on a second night or a third night um so this is crazy and this is kind of a an aside i used to work in Arlington
and their town meetings were uh about nine days long three three hour two or three hours each night they had like 50 60 70 articles how big a town uh 45,000 people
oh well but but no literally it would go on for like nine or 10 nights yeah i don't think we ever went past three in my time here but we have been to three i was kind of shocked when I heard it when I worked there um but yeah
nine or 10 nights and each night is two or three hours long that's that's a lot well sometimes people need to talk and they takes a long time to get stuff done no matter how much you prepare though um
so when I talk to um the high school um AV director tomorrow about reserving auditorium for in the town meeting I'll mention
that it might we may need a continuum and I guess I'll mention the following night as or even the the Next [Music]
next used to be two nights in a row there used to be what did you say yeah sometime it's it's varied sometimes it's the next night sometimes it's two nights sometimes it's the next week um it's varied so it's hard to say and I
don't know what the variable has been sometimes it you don't get out until 1:00 a.m um I've been there too so it and and it's pretty much John's call I think yeah so you might want to talk to
him okay um Okay all right i'm ready for 5.5 um I make a motion to uh review and sign payroll and bills payable warrants out of session
second any discussion no hearing none vote veronica i executive session is there a motion um I move to enter into and adjourn from executive session pursuant to open meeting law chapter 3A section
21A3 to discuss strategy with respect to collective bargaining if an open meeting may have a detrimental effect on the bargaining position of the public body clerical union supervisors union highway water union police union and fire union
and I second discussion no okay uh Veronica Cal I and Laura Sh and did did your motion include to adjurnn from executive yes okay