Good everyone. Okay. Please join me. to the flag of the peaceful before I came in. actually um listening to
um some tribute that was being done for me. Um and the story of a veteran and my eyes just teared up. um
fought and because his best friend uh died and he didn't um and apparently there was a and I just want to say thank you again for all your sacrifices
and everyone who has served or who continues to serve today and all over the world. We appreciate you and your families and we are thankful that you are
defending our students. Um also want to thank all of our emergency response um people and their families as well. We would not be able to continue each day without you.
Uh the meeting is being recorded and recorded YouTube and is so anybody else speaking um do not believe. So before you discuss special need
in your packet included the motion for both special meeting just figure out um who would have the
That's a good one. purposes. Is that going to be good by the board of health? That's what I would expect. Um, yeah, I think that now congratulations.
You should be able to do very well. And this is another time This is not the Um,
we usually do. This isn't one that we usually sec. Sorry. He must have an explanation. I agree. And um John Article officials amend
This should be the citizen. This will be the citizen. There's a big one. You can see the recommendation. Oh, I was going to be um
[Music] So this is just a special recommend. Okay. So they recommend recommend Last [Music] one. The last one was five. Oh, somebody don't
speak about specialization specialization and the assistance we should do. Um, also the uh overload is a big thing. It's so you're not supposed to touch the overlay. Yeah, they Anyway, okay. I I
don't And we made the request. We We made the request for 20,000 out of it. Is that Yes. Okay. But um yeah. Okay.
All right. So that is for the session. [Music] So uh just to recap, we um had already done the first 10 articles. So [Music] 11
meeting to adjourn to discussion. And we're going to go back to the annual after the first four. Yes, that is correct. [Music] Correct. So, do you know the right words
for going back and forth that um give you the right words? Because there are certain words. Yeah. um to to transfer between the two meetings. The moderator has the moderator, but the moderator and
Adam were um at the same time and they they both agreed that we were going to adjourn and res. So you resume the annual to give
you the password and then do we need a motion to Oh yeah. Okay. So do we have this motion? Can you just uh send notice to um that we need the verbiage to adjourn and
presume or what we do? I think the moderator should know because it's not a you're like it's pausing. Well, I don't think yes the journey means you ended
correct. So it's um suspend suspend suspend suspend. Yeah, we have to use the right words to move back and forth.
We want to stay out of trouble. We don't want to use the wrong words. Um so because we didn't go over it, that's not something because we were just part of a special When you get to the budget and get special
and then after that then we join the discussion and you know so what is Yeah, that's just the number 11 in there.
Those are the motions. Correct. Correct. And uh I had written it down from before. Lori was originally scheduled to read motion.
You know how way back then. Yeah. So, okay. So, Valerie's going to do is this wording I mean we have to do it this way and then I is that the number that we're the right number well no the number has to be exact. Yeah. Uh that is the number. So this one
27592926 was correct. Yep. And the change is well actually you're voting on the budget with production. No.
So, so this motion is correct for that. And so are we handing out just this? No. No. The whole I mean or are people getting the whole annual? This is this is the story that they should be getting. No, I I mean are they getting
also? Yes. Okay. Okay. So, we just need to tell them that we're not referencing this. Is that correct? The motion is this. We are referencing this. Okay. So, this is correct.
Yeah, we'll talk about that later. But this is what they're going to counter for this. Yeah. So, but we'll set that aside for now. We just go through this. So value
[Music] I mean I don't mind doing it. the 14. Yes. A lot of departments um you can do Well, no,
this is Capital because I was on I was normally it would be the um this is capital planning also. Yeah, but you can use it if you want. It is also a C. So if you want to read it, go ahead.
Yeah. Just if anybody has any questions, I answer. You want to do that? [Laughter] No worries. Okay. This is the human.
So this is the first one that you're reading is sorry. So this is the cost of building increase essentially article 18 and article 19.
Clear the plan recommendations for the for the budget without the cuts. They have their own budget. This is not recommended. What do we do?
But that's not the number actually. Yeah, that was the old [Music] Japanese truck has something to do with it, isn't They have a plan. Yes.
Yes. I don't know. Maybe over. Yeah. Not that they do that. Three of the people are. Okay. So relationship. That's 19 is the doubling. Um the 18 is
the cost of living. Oh yes. Yeah. So intro and uh I think what we want to do before the meeting
officially gets in the way say a few words set the tone for why we're here just a few words Oh yeah, absolutely. And
I think I mean I have a couple. Okay. I'm just not gonna labor what we want. I'm not going to repeat the whole story of what I don't think. I
don't think a lot of voters I know there's a section of segment of voters that are on social media aware of every single thing. A lot of people I talked to but unfortunately people think they are aware
of what screen. Okay. So and are you going to talk too um when does the when are you showing the um I think it was this I think it's a handout. So yes.
So are we showing that as a um power? Uh well the PowerPoint is uh if you recall was just the motion itself told I think this is just forformational purposes. Everybody sitting there kind of I mean it's up to you. I think
somebody needs to point that out to people and then go over it. If not people are not going to be aware. that will have it sitting there and they're gonna think why isn't anybody doing anything with this? Why aren't you talking to us? I think it needs to be
talked to. Yeah, you originally I thought you said you were going to talk to it. Yeah, I can do that. Okay, sure. I think you absolutely have to. This should be answering the questions for them before we start with everything. Just that that budget budget
before article 11 before article 11. Yeah, I think so. Didn't we with John and Adam? Did you talk about that? Uh, not specifically.
You got this yesterday. I thought you said that you were going to have you said you're going to have a slide presentation everybody would have a handout and I said is it because they're probably not going to see the slides well so they will have it to look at while you talk about it. Um well the
slideshow I was referring to it's just the motions itself but it's it's easy enough for me those slides and do you have them in here to check them because I think that's important. I do. Okay. And It's
going to be on a fast a flash drive because we actually have a separate computer that projects. So we put everything on the flash drive to the computer. And do any other department heads have
presentations that they want to do? Uh they could they could and how do they provide those to the person? Um I believe the fire has one by this morning. So
prior to the meeting started he'll hand it to me and I think as far as I know my presentation I think to be prepared to answer any questions
should they come to your budgets. I I think we should also invite them to speak if they want to prior to the budget being um um chief do this thing. You should ask if any other department
heads want to say anything at this time. If not there are welcome anytime you want to budget. Maybe do these. talking about the finance system.
I person right well yes sure um so yes be ready to speak on those and then ask questions I mean it's just
that you're making about this yeah I I will just reiterate what I am sorry I'm looking forward I thought I had a break here it's all So, um,
everyone that signs in high school pretty succinct packet will have both warrants and it's complete for our budget finance. committee's budget
presentation as well as recommendations. So everyone everything that's here it's pretty substantial. So it's a lot of people they should have Um, I don't think there's too much to
discuss. I think they're pretty much we need to review them through the recommendations. Yep. I do have a copy of that. And I guess well is it the same wine
item line to line here between theirs and you should be able to follow along. Um I will say Well, so I think this is how they did it. You see the line 25 24 and 25
there's total then right above but they don't say anything. So, so we have they have a proposed a lack of transparency and I suppose it's up to the
idea to take a number and cut it. I don't know their decision making process to get to that paper. All I see is just okay. So is that when we ask what are you cutting
specifically are you cutting? Well, we may not know I would department heads could say the same thing about our budget I suppose but So it sort of goes on and on with each they voted for 30,000 they have given
themselves back the 10,000 for the reserve fun but they took all of their free cash and that was okay and they took stabilization that's okay but they want to keep the reserves
even though they voted that 40 was okay right exactly way. [Music] So, as I said, it sort of goes on and on. Okay. So, you just look at the dark spots. And again counting clips like
those. And that's okay for me. And you know what? Every department needs to speak to their cut. They need to ask the question
why their department is being cut. I imagine they'll come back to us and say they don't know how we're clearing their budget. They might and say that they don't know where we're cutting, you know, because we're cutting budgets. that we were cutting budgets and over
I agree. [Music] special. I don't know. Oh, they didn't put anything. And so what is the How is that fair? But they're talking about fair eating
across the board. And it's a sad day for 800. It's just my face. And since they're not saying where it's from, we just stay here at the bottom. That
doesn't mean it's going to lower. [Music] Well, I mean, not necessarily. So, I guess I mean that's a good question. I I you know, we could go through all
their hypothetic they say, but what I would say is is their bottom line is higher than ours. Yeah. And if so, here's the interesting thing. Where are they taking big chunk?
Unless that's a big chunk that is present. No, they they are that's the point is is their their end number is 200 not quite 200,000 but it's high it's high. Yeah. also by about about 200
right 2778. So that's the interesting part. You look at the very last page of that recap and you go down to kind of halfway
down other available funds. They are looking to re HR and there's no well that's why I'm saying it's interesting this is how they plan to balance their
decided the housing trust money at the moment it's a no that's already been voted on the position so I think
I think these two items account for the balance [Music] if I mean I think that's just up to people too because I hear from both sides and there's other people who
because it's not normal. There's people who are there's people upset with us and there's people upset with anyone. So I think so the people that are upset with cash and No, I'm just saying I'm saying some people are very upset that there's two budgets being presented. So some people might not want some people might
want to hear this and some people might not. Do you know what I mean? Interesting. Uh yeah. Does that make sense? Who's presenting on behalf of they oh I see they have to be recognized by the
townman to present their budget versus the budget that's being presented. Yes. Discussion that would be time to say that a kind budget has a couple of items that can't be done.
there's 200,000 that just can't be done the way they have presented it and there's a lot of cuts for different departments that have not been discussed. Well, maybe they do discuss the cuts with all the department heads. The department heads all agree because we had discussions with other department
heads before. Um I as far as I know Did you see any only the needs that we all have? Yeah. Or they could have spoken behind the scene.
And I think more than ever, it's our department heads that have to speak to the town's people. I think the department heads really understand the workings of their department and I support them
and I support our employees. I also support our volunteers. Um, the other thing that I think you guys should [Music] [Music] or is this the same one that came out? Well, okay. So the the just still the
scariest part about this and this is after what we went through what we you know learned on Friday was more stabilization and are you going to pay it back? Do you think this is going to fly?
This is a not only not being able to pay for the contract, but the stabilization fund that we've it's a risk. It's also this that um that it comes down to suppose this all
works exactly how they said there aren't startups which means that the following year in other words they needed 160,000 in stabilization to make this budget work
to start not only to start to make it work for three to pay through July people. Yes. Yes. Paying 124. [Music] Exactly. And if that doesn't fall out, well then the program is done the next
year, but we still have a contract, which is why, and I say we because it's the select board that is going to be responsive clarification because people have asked me um if this doesn't work, how does
Shaw get paid legally? Because it's an enterprise account by the word of help. But if we can get legal clarification on how that play out. If I recall Shaw's class, it was
very short. So if we really are in such a dire situation, we can make that decision. very important. I haven't seen a client with this. Have you? I've seen a contract that we have
now and that all that process is in but I have not seen this contract and I've asked for it several times in writing. I wanted it to be viewed by Adam and I have I have not seen it. It hasn't been
verified as me by anyone. That means the board of health did not. They said, "Oh, Adam has a review." Typically, when it comes back, it's not four pages. It's not what we saw for the estimates. It is
a thick document, 50 pages or so, and it details everything. And where that buyout was in there for last year, it is not. I haven't seen it for this year. I can't say it's not. If it is, I'm more
comfortable. Um, but if it is not, we have a problem. And what we probably should have done in December instead of going to Florida, and I didn't know at that point, we had been selecting for a week or two. Um, I didn't know at that
point that opting out was an option, but we probably should have looked at that right down. Um, you know, it's nice that there's trash collection. I I participate in trash collection. I don't know that all
the people who are advocating for even this trash participate in trash. Um, so in any event, um, but I have not seen the contract and I haven't and so until I see the contract, I
cannot for this and if I don't see it by 7:00 the article, but I am willing to make amendments to say, you know, I
I am prepared to make an amendment to say to amend article two to move that the town vote to raise and appropriate some 786,351 to operate solid waste and recycling
enterprise which would increase the amount from 125 to about 213 with 1,800 I would say 200 and that's still less you know one large it is still less than
what we pay for SH so anyway I am prepared that motion should need um but I cannot vote for it as is the stabilization and I certainly can't vote for it if we have a three-year contract They must
know. It depends on how many people actually do it. And what I hear is people don't want to pay a fee and do that's what some of the people in the fees with the badge. That's a
pretty clean season. I agree with that. But people don't know what it comes in because it's change after change after change. And why not just know what your trash is?
Don't worry about paper bags. You know, you have to buy pl, you know, buy paper bags or plastic bags, whatever it is, regardless. You don't have to get them. um if you contract yourself I'm not advocating for contractor but I am not
comfortable with taking so for a program that all people are participating because that money is tax whatever
I mean I want But we have to have a contract. So if it does pass when the contract comes to be signed unless that was
signed. Um so I I do not want I think they I think they really tried really hard to help us leave us alone. I'm thankful
very I've heard back from Adam for suspending annual time meeting you know he says that's typically something yeah John almost exactly for you
when the time is right. I just feel more comfortable now knowing that there are things that we could do that we were told that we couldn't do and so we were kind of paranoid about it all the time. Now we don't have to be. Um,
and Jose, it was very interesting on the financial. I did not hear that, but I wrote to Jessica um for more information on cash um overation
and what we really should be doing and how we put it back. Yeah, she was presenting I get there. Yeah. It's okay. Okay.
And sit with other people, you know, not even Yeah. Not not even the ones that I So, it was it was good. It was all like a positive, you know, day.
um just as was and I'll mention again on again Saturday and I'm still very excited about it and I hope that you know we get something on it soon and we are able to um address it and do some
things you know with it after meeting this is a few months we know we should have meetings about we should have goals and agenda I think that is one of our first things.
Yeah. And I also think getting people is really important. So we can go and review all of recommendations that you know because they they I mean when I talk to them this is just what we do. We come into a town we say here this is like
they look at our budget process the state recommendations where things have gone wrong in the past make recommendations. I think that's a good idea. And I also think we need to get budgeting. I'm not sure if you're a part of that class
and the training. Uh, I actually gave you a great demonstration on what the capabilities are because I soft pass that over.
So it was an interesting presentation think just in time. You have to do it for years. It's something every year.
But once you have it set up, isn't it less expensive? Um I need to look at the note. So there is a startup cost because you know they have to start anyone
I'm not sure seems to be that software. Just everybody's on the same page. Exactly. The same system. Yes. Melissa [Music] questions for her to be done after that.
Sabrina, do you can you hear me? Sabrina, she just said something. I'll just bring this up. I approved my last MP meeting today and it's took and um I approved another
sent and it was my last meeting. But she said something to me I thought um about the motion that we made in reference to the representative. But that was this is
necessary. So it seemed like it was maybe I don't remember. Um but my role the last two years as chair of MRC
included in me participating in MJC and FO and NO are I appointed on behalf of MC and I counted for their form in the NJTC best was the counseling representative.
I was the MRC representative. know that I am on off that position and there'll be another it will be partly um but because it's already elected the next person is elected to the chair or something
um then that now becomes his responsibility to do an agency and and all for democracy and that's not a position that Thompson takes So we'll be council member doesn't have
an representative and right and so that is that so partly we'll become housing representative we start and we start somewhere and you're our ultimate forc and we're the
ultimate for NJ correct yes I think that I think that can vote for you. Oh, you're you're for MRPC as well. Okay. So, okay. So, then you
can't make it. She's going to make it for MRP. I think Beth will discontin. Yes, absolutely. Okay. But certainly just I thought they And it's not something you have to do
all the time. I do because I voted um I think it was I looked through it and I saw the names of the people that they were from. So, anything else we have? Um, See you later everybody.