All right, we're at 6:30, so I think we're going to kick this off. Um, so at this time, uh, Chair Victoria Janiki will elevate Darlene Adano to a full voting member as well as David.
>> I love that term, elevate. It makes me feel important. >> Chanel to also a full voting member. Uh with that uh do we have a motion to open the meeting for tonight? >> So move. >> Second. >> Okay.
>> Okay. Uh roll call. >> David Chanel. Yes. >> Darlene Zidano. Yes. >> And the gagei. Yes. All right. So at this point I think the um hearing is set for 6:35 p.m. So we have 5 minutes. >> Minutes.
>> So is anybody looking at minutes? I I looked at uh both of them. >> I wouldn't be able because I'm I was like not here. >> Yeah. >> Well, you were at one, but you weren't >> knowing that we weren't going to have a porum. Um and that was the three of us
and David probably wouldn't want to go to the minutes. I didn't bother to review them. >> So, let's leave those leave those for a followup. >> I started to anyone can you tell if anybody is on the meeting at this point?
>> Yes. Brendan Kavanagh is and let's see. I think that's it. Brendan, there's I see Brendan Kavanaaugh. I see myself and that's it. >> Okay, I see. Okay, I see you guys up there now. Okay. >> And who's Brendan Kavanagh?
>> Yeah. Uh his uh >> I business partners with Addison Newton. It's for the main uh topic of discussion tonight. >> The application thing. Are you on theation? I don't think you are.
>> Uh, my name be on it, but >> Okay. All right. So, while we wait for Do you expect Addison to join us? >> Yeah, I do. Uh, let me give him a call uh while you guys are >> Okay, great.
>> Yeah. >> All right. So, is there any correspondence that may have come in that we should be aware of or announcements in the folder? Any more volunteers? >> I wish. Let me take a quick look.
There wasn't much. >> The poor guy doesn't have to hurry though. Well, you could frustrate this. >> It's funny. This this um this special permit from 2009. That was the one year that I took up when I was a select one.
>> Wow. Is it? >> Yeah. Anthony, >> which signature is that on me? >> It's you Sadano. So, it's not the It's Sados. That's This is the one. [clears throat] >> Um then it's Craig Stevens who you know Julie Johnson who's now an attorney.
Anony's cast and Bill Catan was cross. You were the chair of the meeting. >> Yeah. Remember that? That was a one year I was chair because Bill Katigan wasn't around and everybody figured they'd get him and they voted [laughter] as chair. >> Did you guys see the administrative
report I put in? >> No. >> Oh, you didn't? >> Okay. I didn't get a chance to look at it. All right. Well, most of it is planning board, but the three things for ZBA are welcome back, David Chanel.
I gonna get six months subs. >> Um and then of course the 159 Brooklyn Street which you're hearing tonight. And the third thing is um land use issued a letter to Three Wheeler Road because they had a project change out there and the board has a earth excavation special
permit uh for the property. >> I'm sure you all recall. >> So right now they have changed the project. They have put up a building and um the location of that building is in the res the restoration area of the fine
wall approved plan for that excavation permit. >> So we've asked for a um a friendly reminder to send in modification, change plans, update the you know permit and so hopefully that will be coming soon. >> Okay. >> Okay.
>> Is that going to come to us or is that come going to planning board? They should uh they should bring a modification narrative to the ZBA and um updated revised plans. Uh so the letter you can actually read the letter. I did
put it in the portal that was sent and um you can see exactly what they need. >> What do we do with that? It's not appearing or something, right? So what do we what's our >> um I would >> What's our obligation? I think you would
review it and um if it is a modification then yeah you would probably have to uh I'll just double check but if modification to a special permit you would probably have to go through the the hearing process again I guess and I'd have to find out >> I would agree with that.
>> Yeah. Do we make that determination though or is it just going >> Yeah. >> If you bought it by a special permit you got to go through the same checkpoints that you did on the original one. it. >> Yeah. >> And it did did the charge for the application for the modification cost
the same as a new special request? >> Think so. >> Over again. Does that make sense? >> But we're playing >> and you can incorporate by reference the prior decision >> with with with the with the following modification ABC D. Boom. Done. >> Yeah. >> You don't have to do findings of fact anymore. You can you just confirm and
incorporate by reference what you found out before. >> Yeah. >> Easy way to do it. >> Yeah. So they don't So they can just jump into putting the application in and not have to come to us to tell us. Yeah. >> Yes. >> We don't we react to things on paper, not correct.
>> You know, we've said this for for 30 years. You and I have been on the board. We're a reactive board. We don't look for trouble. Although sometimes we do, but [laughter] >> it's happened. But but it's a reactive board. >> Yeah. >> Right. But you want to be SPGA for a special purpose. So
>> Well, no. I agree. I mean they need to come to us but I don't think you need to file application for modification just file an application >> again we can incorporate by reference y except what we what was found and just with the following additions so modifications. >> No my point is you don't need to give me
a plan in a meeting to tell you to do an application to come back. >> Okay. So what I can do is I can bring to the board what they >> they submit. I'm assuming submit the revised plan and then all you have to do is just acknowledge it. acknowledged
everything about. >> Yeah, I think that would be great. Yeah. So, that's kind of what the letter says. >> Give us an up. >> It would be another public hearing. >> It wouldn't be an acknowledgement. >> Oh, we only do
>> special permits, variances, and appeals >> and a modification of a special permit because a special permit can be modified. >> Yeah, >> we had this discussion. >> Right. Right. >> But you wouldn't just put a plan in front of us and we just sign off on it without public hearing. not do that.
>> Okay. >> And so the request is for them to put in an application. >> Okay. Right. And then go and then we'll go through that process that special >> and they can they themselves could incorporate by reference the previous decision. Makes it easier. You don't have to go find it
>> and say, you know, the change >> just go like what we talked about. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> It would be a fast one. It wouldn't be that bad unless the modification were was obscene. >> Okay. All right. So, we uh we have Addison on now. Great. So, do we have a motion to
open the public hearing? >> No. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> I dared I >> David Chanel. Yes. >> And Vicki Janiki. Yes. Uh would someone like to read the uh legal notice how it's handed?
>> Yeah. Here we go. >> Sure. like old time. >> Yep. >> In accordance with NGL 48 section 9 town zoning bylaws, the town zoning board of appeals will hold a public hearing on Wednesday, November 19th, 2025 at 6:35 for the town hall 272 Main Street Towns
and consider the application of Addison Nuke. Am I pronouncing that right? Addison new. >> Uh yes. >> Okay, thanks. uh for a special permit under town zoning bylaws 14518 14565 to authorize the use of nine previously
permitted model units as long-term residential rental units 159 road such as map 38 block 9 lot zero located in outline commercial district OCD and the aford district Olay district application and plans are on file town clerk's
office and may be inspected during radio business hours public comment may be made at the hearing or in writing prior to the hearing or emailed by ZB VA at townsenmass.go I've got remote axes. I'm not going to read that. Blah blah blah. Victoria, it's the first time I' I've done this
for 29 years. It's the first time it has a Bill Kag message here. [laughter] >> Why did you say that? >> Very cool. >> All right. All right. So, we have a a interesting and interest um we don't have enough people tonight to conduct
business. So, I apologize you to you, Addison. I know it seems like we just keep drawing this out. Um, but we unfortunately need four voting members in order to conduct the hearing today. And as you can see, we only have three.
Nobody was able to come on Zoom. Um, so what we would like, we've opened the hearing. What we would like to do is continue the hearing to December 3rd. Does that work for you? >> Um, December 3rd. I I think that will work. Yeah.
for me. [clears throat] >> Do we have to readvertise the the hearing and everything in the paper and >> No, that's that's the purpose of reopening it opening the hearing in public. When we continue it, you don't need a continuation of the hear of the hearing. No, it's just it is what it is.
And what Vicki said though, four people have to vote on it. If four people are here, it has to be unanimous. If five are here, it can it can be majority vote. >> So be better five people here. >> Yeah. And so the the folks who couldn't make
it have said December 3rd is open for them. So um and that works for me that yeah I can make that work. >> Yeah. So we can make that work and we can get through this. >> Okay. Um, did did the board have a
chance to at least look at um my new proposal that I submitted? Because I'm just wondering if um I could get any feedback on the new approach I took and whether that No, >> not allowed. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I'm sorry. We're not allowed.
We're procluded from doing anything substantive >> without the the the we need the four people to have that discussion. >> We [clears throat] do appreciate you putting in the new application as we we we requested and then new work. So um so
at this point we've continued we did we make a motion? We need a move. No, we need a >> move that we continue the hearing to Wednesday, December 3rd at 6:30. >> 6:35. >> Second call.
>> David Chanel. Yes. >> Darlene. Yes. Vicki. Yes. So, the hearing will be picked up again on December 3rd and we will ride those guys and make them here. >> Yeah. So, apologies again. I appreciate your patience and let's get this wrapped
up next time. Okay, sounds good. See you guys on the third. >> Thank you. >> Tojourn to move tojourn the second roll. Yes. >> Thank you. Yes. Thank you everyone.
>> My meeting is over. >> Meeting is over. >> Thank you. >> That's it. and sweet