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[Music] [Music] [Music] Present. I call this meeting of the board of education to order. The board would like to welcome the audience and thank you for attending. Viewers may
watch TCAP's board of education meetings and committee meetings live or on demand at any time at www.keycaps.net/board. Please rise and join me in the pledge of allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic
for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay, we're at the review approval portion of the agenda. Um, is there any
uh Yeah, I would I would like to propose switching the discussion items A, which is saving renovations with C, the multi-purpose fieldhouse, architectural services, so that we can have the most
important discussion come sooner than later. I know this is a really packed agenda tonight with a lot of items for discussion that are very deserving of our attention, but I I think the saving one would be um
something that could be moved down in the agenda and and hold the fieldhouse one earlier because I know there's a lot of interest in that particular topic from the public including some people here in the audience. I have no preference. So I defer to any
other comments on board members. I guess I don't know how if it affects any of your presentation, it's probably easy enough to switch. We had intentionally put it after central because there were some thoughts that would relate to but I don't think that it has to be
that was the only thing I I'm not sure either. Right. Central High School and Fieldhouse are related but not saving renovations. So I'm proposing moving sin renovations to later. So both of them are. Yeah. So it would be C it would be fieldhouse first then central then S or we could do central then fieldhouse
then S. That's how that's how the slides are down. That's how the slides are. Central then field house. Let's do it that way. Unless any objections for any board members. Okay. If not we will remove uh it will
be going s will go to the end the other two. Okay. And I would just like to confirm a couple of things uh that right now they're on consent and I just wanted to make sure a couple of things were covered. One is on elementary and
secondary student and parent handbooks and that won't keep very long. So if we move that to the very end so I so that so just to confirm we're moving Sabin to C. So central high will become a multi-purpose will come B. Sab
will come see looking to remove uh from consent um parent handbooks. Which one? Parent handbooks. So I think that would be F. So that would become F. And under board policy
as item I3 basically to just briefly move the home students 5307 discussion to discuss
um homeless students 5307 promise I'll keep them short. Okay, that is only requires any any board member can pull any item off consent. So that goes to uh E3 and F. Um any other changes?
Keep me on my toes today. Um uh with that, do I have a motion to move uh approve as amended? So moved. Seconded. Second. All right. Um
I think we can do it. All those in favor say I. I. I. All those post say nay. Motion carries. And then moving on to public comment number one. Uh assuming there is public comment that the board has set aside this time and individuals addressing the
board shall have one opportunity to speak and shall be limited to 3 minutes. Individuals should not make personal attacks unrelated to actions affecting the school system and we strongly encourage common courtesy and constructive feedback. Detailed rules and procedures including a complaint process are outlined in board policy
25504. Kevin M. Thank you members of the board. My name is Kevin M. I'm here tonight both as a register of Traverse City and president of Traverse City Youth Lacrosse Club.
Appreciate the opportunity to speak with you briefly and take a moment to introduce both our organization and myself as well as support our club. We formed it last year. It's a 501c3 nonprofit. We have clear purpose and that purpose is to provide the youth
in our community with opportunities to participate and organize across all the physical, social, and emotional development that comes along with that in a safe safe and inclusive environment. Lacrosse, for those of you that don't
know, it's known as the creators game. It has deep roots in the indigenous North American cultures. Was originally played to unify communities. plant between settlement and settlement um is used to develop leadership and and
honor the creator. And those values of teamwork, discipline, respect, and resilience are still at the heart of the game today. And and those are the things that we as a club are trying to instill in our participants. Uh it's more than a sport. It's really a tradition that
helps shape strong, well-rounded individuals, and every aspect of our program has this built into it. So, we're here tonight to voice our strong support for moving ahead with the construction of an indoor fieldhouse. It would really be
transformative for our club and for the greater broader sports community. Would help us deliver on our mission to improve the quality of lacrosse in our area and most importantly to open the sport to many more local families. We're deeply committed to growing the sport at
the grassroots level. And just this past year, since we've been operating as an organization, we partnered with the YMCA to develop and help run and staff an instructional program to introduce or providing equipment for the children to
use to learn it before they decide if they want to purchase it. We recognize that some of it can get expensive and want to as part of our mission be inclusive and supply that for those to really make a decision if it's worth it for them. Uh most of them come back. So
I think we're doing a good job. Um we've also been out to the elementary schools uh the PE classes. I've been to a couple of the middle schools to run programs there. Introduce the sport. Brought all the equipment given me opportunities to play. Uh we run a travel program. We
have weekly practices and tournaments throughout the spring, summer, and fall. Um, and we're grateful for both TCAPS and LEAP for helping us uh secure fields to be able to run those programs. Uh,
but as you know, outdoor practice in early spring, late fall could be difficult, challenging, um, and just not possible in the winter time. Right now, Mr. Maine, I'm sorry, your time is up. It's a three minute limit. All right. Well, in short, it would be a game
changer for us and the community. Thank you. Scott Richards. Scott Richards, Green Lake Township. I'm here to call attention to these books. Red, White, and Royal Blue, Gender Queer,
All Boys Aren't Blue. These books don't need don't need to be in the libraries and our public schools. They don't need to be purchased with public funds because they're trash. Just trash. Um, if anybody would like to take a look at
copies of the copies that I have of these books, they're right here. I'd also like people in this room to look up the story of Jordan Demay of Marquette, Michigan. Jordan May sad story. Could have been me if it
wasn't for the grace of God. And the grace of God go I. These books are trash. You're going to bring a whole bunch of pain to a whole bunch of people by letting them look at these books. If they want to look at these books, they
can go to adult bookstore when they're over 18. This book is God's holy word. It was the first textbook in the colonies of America even though it was in America right now. Well, I think it was was it
colonies of America? But the colonies, this was his first textbook. I think if we got back to this textbook, it would be great for our kids. And I'm glad I started learning to read this book and memorizing it. This has been the best thing to get me through
life. Matter of fact, if I don't read this book before I walk out the door, I have a bad day. And I know better in this book in uh Matthew 18:6. I should I do have memorized, but
I'm not going to cuz I want to get it right. Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck. and we have drowned and would have
drowned in the depths of the sea. That's Matthew 18:16. There's many other verses in this book that would help kids, especially Psalms 139:14. You are fearfully and wonderfully made.
Now, if you teach these kids to wonderfully made, they don't need to look at these books. And I'm sure there need a lot of help because I'm sure a lot of parents go through divorces. It kind of goes through generations and divorce is really t really hard with
kids and their minds are developing and I would not want to screw with person's mind because I want to see my grand someday and I'm going to get a big fat hug from them. Mom, I'm glad to be here and uh I wouldn't want to be in shoes that let our little ones sin
because sin is pain. Trust me. Bill Weezner. driver city and going along with what Scott just said about the books and pornographic content
and it's like not suitable for the kids in the Middle Sex education curriculum. That's exactly what you've noted in the sex in the law section. It's got four slides on pornography and uh
right impacts of porn. Porn gives rise to sexual misconduct, leads to violent sex, encourages strangulation, puts girls at risk of being victimized. Porn teaches that hurting women is pleasurable. plus
two other slides full of similar information and find out which pornographic books are in your libraries. Um you can search the schools and this little picture here of
the brain in the cage. That's what's happening. It's uh early exposure rewires the brain leading to increased risk of addiction, distorted views of relationship, long-term mental health struggles.
And here's a great place to start to agree with your slides right here. each one of your schools. If you go to the site takebackschools.com, you will find TC Central has 119 of
these books, promoting pornography, which has got all these harms that you admit in your slides, but we're we're continuing with these books. TC West has 106 and four of the elementary schools have these books.
and uh carry that over to the entire sorry okay the entire program the uh Kinsey sex ed curriculum here this handout's got 10 pages they're colorcoded there's
a first section in yellow and it's from Audrey Wernern's site and she kind of taken over on the Kinsey study she knows more about Alfred Kinsey and the fraud from Judith Reeseman. She died recently. Audrey's taking over knows this stuff.
And uh there's a the first article is highlighted the history of sex education as presented to the Texas Board of Education. So read that and you'll see where this all came from. The second page is wonderful information comparing
sexual risk reduction which is at TCAP sexual risk risk avoidance and biblical purity. And uh and then the middle section, those six pages, read those for sure. I'll speak more at the other open open time. Thank you,
Jessica Sullivan. Good evening everyone. I'm Jessica Sullivan of the Northern Michigan Homefield Alliance. Also the president of Legato Family Office, mother of four and um 19-year resident of Traverse City. I also have a background in serving on a variety of nonprofit boards
as well as a school chair of the the Monasuri Children's House Independent School Board. The Northern Michigan Homefield Alliance is an organization that I was privileged to go ahead and start in three and a half years ago. And as you know, I've been involved and came and visited all of you a couple of years
ago and have been working with the Northern Michigan Traverse Indoor Sports Coalition. The fieldhouse that's on the agenda today is something that we've been talking about now for some time with this organization and is something that has been talked about in this district for 10 plus years. Um I am a
product of extracurriculars and opportunities and I myself um come from very humble beginnings and can be an advocate for those who when you have a good mentor and a good coach um what is possible really truly is um there are no
boundaries to it. I want to talk also about to all of you, you obviously all have information that's in front of you, the importance of governance. And while I understand there are a lot of uncertainties that are still out there within the district, I do believe that we have a unique opportunity now. Um, we've had the conversations throughout
the community multiple times and I believe through the various key stakeholders we've been speaking with, there is a lot of support within our community for us to be able to take advantage of the capital resources as well as the private support while we have it now. Um, I appreciate all of
your careful consideration on this and your passion for the young children is something that we mutually agreed upon. So, thank you very much for your consideration. Okay, thanks. That's the uh end of public comment. Um,
moving on to superintendent's report assigned to Dr. Mner for legislative and district highlights. Okay. uh state legislature, not really much of an update. Uh federally, um some lots of unknowns still right now with the um passing of the reconciliation act
at the federal level. Um few things that are out there. One is on your agenda and I just I just we just recently had an update. um real worried that the funding for safe route to schools that is um passed down to the Michigan fitness foundation that is a part of the SNAPED
farm bill is my understanding. So we got a letter that I passed on to the board that that funding has been cut in the reconciliation act. So um I think that that definitely puts a hold at very least into any conversations about what
funding may be available with that. Um so that's one. the the other piece that we're the Medicaid cuts. Um, you know, we we see a lot from our ISD gets a lot of the funding with that and how that may trickle down. Um, we still don't know yet. It's kind of a until we get
more of the the rules and the regulations uh from the federal government what that looks like. Um, we don't know. And then um still a lot in the up in the air about our federal title dollars. Um, you know, what we're
hearing is that, you know, within the the the bill and within uh the um executive authority that uh we may see some changes in what are called block grants to the state. Um, title one at this point we're hearing from our uh
public school advocates in Lancing is essentially flat um to year to date. Title two um which we depend a lot for professional development from the federal government is zeroed out cut completely. Um most of the other title programs are as well which includes
McKini Vento um is completely cut out of the budget. Um but you know what what can still be done what what is there what does the executive do with that? What does the state try and step in and supplement? We just don't know yet all of that. So a
lot of unknowns from the federal level um of of what all that means. I think um you know that the title for instance the title two that really doesn't affect we by state law have to provide provide our five days of professional development that we do but many of the supplemental
type things we do where we may send somebody to a conference or bring somebody in to work like that's where Jesse works with the state is in charge of what's called our consolidated application and that has been approved and it's all in there from the state ready to go. They essentially are the
arm of the federal government. the state department of ed does that work, but we've has had zero guidance from our our uh federal and state program adviserss at MD and what that looks like. So, a lot of unknowns. Keeping our eye on it, talking daily with um a lot of our
legislative advocates uh in DC. Um and once we have any kind of more solid if all those things are a reality or not or changes, we'll be sure to let the board know. Any questions on that? Any more comments on the state and uh the foundation
amounts? No, you know, I think that you know what what ended up result of that is that um you know I from an education standpoint my understanding of what I hear more rumors but I get pretty solid ones is they were not that far apart on the
school part. It's the part of roads and the deal on roads. So they had a deal. The governor and the and the house of representatives, the speaker, were pretty pretty lock step in their thoughts. The Senate felt like there was issues with not doing the whole budget
at the same time and just trying to do the school aid budget by itself that what did that mean of what they may try and take out of school aid to be able to, you know, pay for universities to then pay for roads like the shell game. And so the Senate was pretty well dead against doing just the the school aid
budget by itself. And that's what broke down in the end. They're like, you know, I think that there's a lot of similarities and thoughts. The House actually passed a version on uh just uh July 2nd, I believe, that did include
more of the categoricals back in. It included transportation. It included um at risk. it didn't have an increase in that risk, but it it put a lot of the categoricals back. Isolated districts, the one that we get about a million dollars from. So, the House showed kind
of a little bit what was on their plate of their mindset and it really wasn't all that different than the House uh or than the Senate other than it did have quite a bit more money for charter and private schools. I think that's going to be was probably a negotiation component
there of what's legal even. Um, but that's where it kind of was dropped on July 2nd and there's been no comments or progress on. Were they not going to shift some more extra money into the universities? Well, that's
that that is a part of what's there, but you didn't see, you know, what that would go to there. There was some retirement there, too, that they didn't cover in that. So, you know, that's it. It's what you didn't see that I think was what the Senate was didn't want to leave up for
interpretation or later debate. I think they wanted they want to negotiate the whole pie and that's just where it landed. Yeah. And I I just wanted to comment but correct me if I'm wrong. Last year 2024
25 school year was the first year Michigan decided we're going to pick up the tab for free and reduced lunches for all. I think this is the second year. Was it the second year? I think this is the second. Yeah. And and so we the state would get
reimbursed partially for those who qualified at the federal level. Now Michigan could be carrying that entire cost unless the legislature decides to do so. Yeah. And what's interesting in the House version is they put a pot of money in there and gave districts the choice to do it or not,
which has some real implications and some real issues there I think that the Senate wasn't comfortable with. So I think there's a level of support. It's just a matter of the state wants to mandate that be done or districts, you know, and and what I think the danger of
that is is that some districts may choose not to do it and and do other things and it's on the back of maybe children. And so I think that that's the debate that happened there. And the Senate is pretty steadfast that they want it 100% fully breakfast and lunch
for universal like we've had the last two years. So, we'll continue to advocate talking still talking and texting with John Roth and John Demoose and and Betsy Copia and keeping up to date as as we go each week. If there's any anything else, I'll be sure to update the board.
Okay. And then, um, district highlights. Um, still some things going on this summer. Uh, TCAP's hosted two successful Lego robotics summer camp sessions in June for students entering third through fifth grades. The camp was held at Central High's Innovation and Manufacturing Center and was led by
TCAP's teachers. The camp was uh conducted in collaboration with Lego Education, which connects steam learning to real world experiences in a fun, hands-on way. Students developed valuable skills such as critical thinking, collaboration, engineering, and communication. The students worked
in pairs with one Lego robotics kit per pair and had over 60 builds to choose from. Uh, want to thank the folks uh um uh at uh Newton's Road that are doing some more fundraising for us to try and get more LEGO kits for us to be able to use with our kids in the future. Bill
Myers and and and and uh the team um are are I know right now last email I had they've raised $16,000 and are trying to get to 30. So um appreciate that and that's something we want to be able to do all over the district. So really excited about that.
Um, in June, Throwby Field was host to an emergency action plan training. The crucial event provides an invaluable opportunity for athletic trainers throughout the month and Mary pre-bed system, including those at TCAPS to collaborate and enhance our collective ability to respond effectively to athletic emergencies. And during the
first two weeks of service, the TCAP Sunshine Bus distributed 314 food bags supplied by the Father Friend Foundation and 358 hygiene bags supplied by the Student Support Network. The Sunshine Bus provides access to free food and basic needs to all children and is
available in eight different locations three days a week. The Sunshine Bus runs through August 29th. A complete list of days and times and locations can be found on the TCAPS website. And uh we also have the Sunshine Bus in both the community parade and the Cherry Festival
full parade. Um I had the chance to walk with it one day. I kind of threw my back out before the other and wasn't able to walk. Um but uh but just awesome and the response of kids get out. I'm amazed at when the bus drivers driving how many kids are just screaming that's my bus
driver, you know, as you go along. It just, you know, they are literally rock stars, the bus drivers at bus aid. And just so cool to be able to do that and and appreciate all of our team, Ginger and and Katie and and uh all of the the team a part of
our um our philanthropy work and our SSN work. awesome job. Um, fun thing to do and, uh, to be able to show that important work that our district does. So, that's what I have for district highlights. And then last thing I have is to go to Connie for some tenure updates.
Yeah. So, at the conclusion of this past school year, the 2425 school year, we had numerous staff members who had completed the state requirements to acquire tenure in the state of Michigan, and we'd like to acknowledge them here tonight. We have Amy Fuis, Lisa Fleece,
Emily Helman, Miranda Kelly, Ann Marie Weber, Kathleen Barber, Alice Bao, Benjamin Boyce, Karen Chambers, Alicia Key, Katherine Cths, Kelly O'Brenovic,
Sarah Roo, Nikki Vanderook, Ry. So, congratulations to all of them on their accomplishment. Thank you. Any questions? Okay, we'll move uh on to board
committee reports. Um committee reporting out by trusty. Okay, so we met on Tuesday, July 8th. Uh we first approved our meeting minutes from the prior meeting with one minor change. We added we approved um put on
the consent calendar the virtual courses for middle school middle school students through Excelis. We also uh put on the consent calendar the field trip requests for Germany in 2026. There have been no changes to the dates or the costs or the
general itinerary, but the location of the program has been changed from Konach in the back in the past to Stoutgart. Um, fourth, we uh reviewed the elementary and secondary student parent handbooks and Beth PAC, I'm going to
call you eagle eyes from now on, caught a few errors in the handbooks that have been rectified. Um, and that was um also put on consent but now co pulled. So, we'll be reviewing that later in brief. Um, we then had our presentation from
Dan McGee on the changes or additions to the sexed curriculum. for the next year um based on that advisory board. So he will be detailing that presentation later. Um and then we had really probably the the most important aspects of the curriculum and instruction
committee's meeting which was for Jesse H. Hotton and Dan Heisworth to present um the end of the latest spring NWA and PSAT and SAT score results for the spring. So they went over junior kind kindergarten through 7th grade NWA math
and reading PSAT 8th through 11th grades and also the advanced placement results um 9th through 12th grade with Mr. Joe Esper and uh Ben Ber from the two primary high school. Um basically I'd love to talk more in
depth about curriculum um results but I'll just say at a very high level most of the performance metrics that they presented over the last five years were flat. So they were we were looking at data from 2021 through 2025 um we're talking 50 55 or 60%
proficiency. Um though those uh they might have fluctuated a little bit but overall if you look at 2021 to 2025 they were pretty flat. The one bright spot that was an exception was um NWA third through fifth grade math where we had a
growth from 45 to 52% proficiency. But then conver conversely um the biggest opportunity for growth is eighth grade math now. So the PSAT 8th grade scores did go down 12 percentage points over five years. we didn't see the NWA eighth
grade scores, but um in any event, they will be bringing all of these data points to the academic um achievement portion of our strategic plan discussion in early August uh for that study session. Uh the advanced placement courses, I can just say we've
had another record year, I think, in terms of growth of number of students taking exams. It was over 900 students at our two primary high schools who took nearly 1,800 exams. So, averaged almost two per kid, but we had some crazy rock
stars who took as many as five APs. Um, and their results were statistically big, greater than the global average. It's not just a national average, it's actually a global average. Um so moving on, we had a a fairly brief discussion about our strategic plan that we plan to
have a study session on in early August and finalized late August. Um Mr. Mr. Tyworth and Miss H. Hotton shared the template that they propose using to populate the objectives and the performance measures that support all of
the strategic goals. Um so we talked about they're bringing the achievement data into that discussion, the five years uh trend data that we just talked about and then um based on input from other trustees for that discussion um
trustee PAC brought up uh the idea of a performance measure on special education students among other things. Uh Trusty Schmidt also uh raised post-secondary performance measures and I raised the issue of chronic absenteeism.
So lastly, we did our usual celebrations and successes. Um there was a principal joint meeting at the end of the school year, the Lego robotics summer camp that Dr. Van Wagner just referenced, and then three international trips that have already returned. One was to Italy, one was to Greece, one was to Mexico. And
with that, we adjourned. Next meeting will be uh Tuesday, July 29th at 8:30 a.m. Come one, come all. Okay. Thank you. Any questions on curriculum? I just have a quick comment. I thought it was another fantastic meeting and and I appreciate Dan and Jesse bringing
forth solutions around um like like eighth grade math, right? Was borderline jaw-dropping. Um, so like the fact that we're talking about solutions around tier 2 support in our middle schools, which currently don't exist for math, or consistency across our elementaryaries with tier 2 support for
math. Um, I think that's that's awesome. And I just want to just one point of caution that got brought up again at curriculum that um closing our opportunity gap um is not a zero- sum game. And uh it's a false narrative. And we know it's a false narrative because of what happened at Cortade 10 years
ago. And for Sarah and Scott who weren't there in February, Corte was able to not only close their gap but raise outcomes for all students. It was the first and last time this any of our schools been recognized nationally for title one schools. So I just caution against using the zero sum to take away from one group
to to benefit another group where we know that with certain strategies um that all kids can can thrive. But we don't know if it's continuous. I don't know it was continuous into the upper grades. continuous what do you mean
you close the gap with one group of kids they move to the next grade and you don't see that phenomena continue well what whatever happened at Corte and I and I you know I don't I'm not sure exactly what happened but something I give you guys a few few seconds to go back and forth but
no you're fine I mean I think something h something different happened and then we got a different outcome and I guess I would just caution us against using the zero sum game narrative uh because we're not taken away from one group so another group can benefit. I I will ask that uh sounds like a
rabbit hole to go down. Yes sir. So um any other questions on curriculum? Not enough. All right. Um then moving on to finance committee reporting out by trusty. Well we met July 10th at 8:15 right here
in this very hot room. Um, a number of the topics of discussion are going to be moved on to the regular agenda. So, I'm not going to talk in detail about Central High School nor the multi-purpose fieldhouse. Um, a number of the other projects,
well, except Sabin seems to be now off the consent agenda. So, Sabin's on discussion, right? And it was, right? Yeah. So, we had good discussion. I mean, I I think the fieldhouse and central gym were the primary focus of what we talked
about, and we did make a recommendation that the central high school discussion move on. It seems fairly clear from the finance committee discussion that option three was probably the most attractive and the most reasonable. Um we also um
not unanimously decided to move the discussion of the fieldhouse and the architectural engineering drawings on to this uh board meeting so that we can make a recommendation at least from us two to one to go ahead and approve those uh designs and move that process
forward. Um, we also approved trucks and some other things that are still on the consent agenda and had a discussion of the student support network and had a brief discussion on some of the capital projects that are out there and we have ongoing discussions regarding those.
Nothing monumental that I think came to light during the finance meeting and we adjourned and our next meeting is Thursday July 31st. I'll just take one quick second just to as I try to whenever it's mentioned, but
student support network on the fundraising um increase uh mentioned at the finance committee was awesome to see and I I think we can do a lot more but from where we were. We're making serious progress and we appreciate the leadership of our student
24,000 124 from 39 or so. So yeah and and Beth brought up at executive like why the change from now staff committees reporting out through committee. So John did give us a a staff committee report from sustainability to Yeah. No, it was it's just something we
can plug at any time we can because I think the more people that hear about it, the uh the more we can fund raise and I think that regardless of any just any other discussion we have, we're all on board on that uh growing social SSN. Just another shout out that um
1525 students were served through the SSN last last year. So, I thought um yeah, Katie's doing great work. So, yes, thank you, Katie. She um and I've also seen her family literally she makes her family work very hard uh to do all sorts of things. So, I
appreciate that family, too. Um I Any other questions on finance? Executive I keep quickly. Um this meeting was uh myself and Erica with Trusty Pack in rotation. uh pretty
everything is going to be covered later except for a couple of things. We we moved some forward policies. We had some discussions on that. Some of them went on consent, some of them have been on discussion. Uh HR I feel like was probably a more upbeat report than many we've had over the past several years
that we are largely staffed. um obviously still have a couple of needs especially bus drivers um that we are looking for but but generally speaking our staffing was was way better than it typically has been. Um, it was a very
quick meeting. Um, and the next meeting is Thursday, you corrected this, right? Thursday, July 31st. Thursday, July 31st at 4 p.m. Please note in the meeting, I did say I believe Thursday, July 29th at 4 p.m. That is
That date does not exist. It is Thursday, July 31st at 4 p.m. I think the date exists. It's just out this year. Not on a Thursday. Yeah, the date exists. Yes. Who was the rotational board member at that meeting?
The next one. Um, I do not actually meet I believe it's really there you go. There you go. Board office hours. I'm sure a very long report out needed uh by Trusty Ballinger.
Yeah. So, I actually had um one teacher come to office hours in person at the Turvis Area District Library. She is Lisa Jerva. She is a Long Lake Elementary School teacher. Um and uh she
talked about how she has successfully managed through her years of experience um managing challenging behaviors with young students. Um, and in particular this last year she also shadowed
principal Kate Burwinkle and really just holds Kate in high esteem for the additional support that u you know Kate steadfastly gives uh kids who have some challenging behaviors like I said and
really I I just said okay so what exactly are your techniques and she said communication with the parents is so key. Just ongoing communication, even inviting them into the classroom so that the parents can witness firsthand what
is going on. Um, and then for for Kate, her part is just endless almost endless patience. Probably endless patience. Um, so just sticking with kids and just that perseverance really. Um, she's just seen a lot of success there. So I thought
that was a happy story to share with you all. And if I hadn't had anybody show up, there was a puppet show going on in the adjacent Meguire room at Tattle. So, I just wanted to give everybody a heads up. You might have alternative entertainment if if uh you don't have someone come to your office hours in the
future. There you go. Um uh next board office hours is virtual, uh Trusty Schmidt in attendance, uh July 24th, 2025. And the link is posted on the board page
as well as I believe on the calendar as well. Okay, moving on to consent. Um, do I have a motion to approve the consent calendar as amended? I move to approve the consent agenda as amended.
I second. Second. All those in favor say I. I. All those oppos say nay. Motion carries. Uh moving on to a public hearing for uh sex education. Um as president of the board, I declare this public hearing
open to the public. The additions and revisions of the sex education curriculum will be the subject of this hearing. Deferring to Dr. Mang. Okay. So the uh curriculum committee had the chance to see the updates with us. Uh with us we have Dan McGee. Dan is a
teacher at Central High School um as well as our sex education coordinator. Dan for years has done a great job with organizing this work and uh he has a a brief presentation to give you just of the updates uh to the curriculum. Um
again, those are always available online. We do have some videos that um have some copyright, but we've made that available to the public and available to board members um to be able to schedule here in the office at any time. we have the ability to do that. Um, so I'm going to go ahead and pass it over to Dan to
go through his presentation, which is essentially the same as what the curriculum committee had saw, but just to make sure it's available um to the public and uh our full board. Go ahead, Dan. I got to click back here. Yeah, I was like aim in that corner.
Let's see what happens. Technical difficulty. No. There we go. There we go. Any questions? Yeah. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Way back. No surprises.
Okay, that's good, buddy. So, uh we had the board uh curriculum meeting and the presentation. Tonight we'll present and then I'll be back in August uh where you can you can approve or not approve our recommendations. So
our sexide advisory board is made up of a number of parents, community members which include a minister um many medical people. There's there are some educators involved as well. Uh
extend extensive amount of work uh put into this. So we have a number of updates uh that we will present and uh like like the like uh Dr. Van
Wagner said there is a there are a few videos that are copyrighted uh protected. So they h password protected. So someone would have to if they want to see that they could make arrangements to come watch them here. Our parents uh because we have an opt out program these
being approved they would have the option of coming into a school and being able to see the materials that way. And that's been going on for I've been around a long time. So forever. Um so we
had a we had a number of things uh in the fifth grade when changes happened a variety of ways and in fifth grade uh I I uh reached out to fifth grade teachers that have been teaching HIV and the puberty end is you know asking for hey
what's your what's your ideas any updates any needs and I heard from a number of teachers that went to a professional development um provided by our ISD and it's the Michigan model and they had a new video
and they go that video is far superior to what we're showing kids and so we enacted on the recommendation from those teachers. We reviewed it. We reviewed a a number of supplement uh materials for the teachers uh to be able to use with
their classes. And that is what is the fifth grade uh proposed changes. uh legally we have to teach HIV in each building. So that's something we want to make sure we are we are on top of and everything has to be medically add uh
accurate. So that was another reason for uh the updates. So we have a proposed for our fifth grade. Um, we had discussion on with the uh sex ed advisory committee about the HIV video
at the at the uh the middle school level. Uh, it's currently taught in 8th grade. We're not proposing at this time for it to go to seventh grade, but we think this is a this video is and materials are seventh grade appropriate.
So if we were to propose a grade change, it would already be approved material. So usually when we approve material, it is a grade and above. So we're asking for this to be approved for seventh grade. Again, this came from Michigan
model. Um I sent this out to to the middle school staff, asked for requests uh for for feedback. The feedback I got was, "Hey, it's password protected." So we took care of that issue for them and I received no other feedback on the HIV.
Um I think I think it's very good factual information uh and current. So uh one big change in HIV in the last 5 to 10 years has been the treatment and medication and whatnot. So that is our middle school
changes. So Dan, let me just ask um would kids get it then that HIV education twice in seventh grade and eighth grade? No, currently it's only taught it would be taught in eighth grade. What we're saying is let's say I came back next
year with a proposal to move HIV to seventh grade that that I would I would ask for that approval to have it moved. But the the materials you've already witnessed and you could see the
materials again next year. We just I think Jose's point was uh it was also on the fifth grade slide and was a different video is I guess question if you go back two slide. Sorry. Yeah, that's a different video. The
fifth grade and the fifth grade is currently taught in fifth grade. You mentioned um Michigan model, but that's Michigan model for health. It's a health education curriculum that state of Michigan and uh so
so that was our seventh grade. Now at the high grade high school we had a a few more. Um last year I I um we did our evaluation last year and we presented that every other year. So next year my
final year I will be back giving you uh the evaluation uh that we go through next year. One of our evaluation things that we came up with was a number of things we thought we needed to address. Uh one of those was we didn't have a quiz at the high
school level and we thought a quiz would give us a very good understand better understanding of what kids are are actually learning. So we developed a quiz. Uh that was a long process. Uh each each
possible answer every question was thoroughly gone through by the committee and I think uh we ended up with 39 questions on that quiz. Um, I think at one time it was at 45 and we just these two are the same. Let's eliminate that one and whatnot. I'm
sorry. Post test, not a pretest. This is not uh this is a post test. I mean, we could give it as a pretest post test, but is it is a post test. Another thing we do get from uh child feed uh feedback at the both the middle school and high
school is last year we approved a questionnaire and those kids can uh it's very short something they learned something is there something they they thought they would learn that we didn't learn or if they had any additional questions
um that was approved last year so we we do that I send that out and I get the the teacher gets the results of that so it can impact their teaching if if necessary but I get the results mostly um questionnaires as well. Y
um we had a few tweaks uh to uh some of the slides. So our teen teen pregnancy safe delivery act um or safe delivery program. The first question that we had in our in
our uh uh teen pregnancy was about are you ready to be a parent and had a few questions like will you have the time will you have the money will you and those things we had board members that said hey we need to address these
those questions and I go well the the teacher does and they they wanted it in the slide so we added those into the slide I don't know if we want to quickly look at some of those tonight or um you all you all have access to them. One
thing I did do, you'll note anything that was changed because these were existing slides. Any modifications that were added, they have a gold star in the corner of that slide. Um we again we uh
we had some changes to HIV. We made sure we had the correct medical um documentation and statistics um that were more current and then we added two short videos. Uh one of the
videos we used in the past was no longer accessible to us. So that kind of forced the issue but uh we we are we thought both of these were better than what we've had before and they work together. Uh there's a few changes to STI. Uh
again that is um those were more like statistics. Uh the proposed sex in the law that one had a little bit more and under under uh sexual abuse. So the last I would say
four years the effects or the impact of pornography on our on our kids or on any people and that has been a topic of discussion on the on our sex ed advisory board and we we've been searching for
uh a way that we can present so kids can actually understand um the impacts of watching pornography what does it do to your mind? What what kind of things are happening? It's an educational thing at the high school
level and that we thought was appropriate. Um Erin's law uh Aaron was a young child was abused twice. Once by her uh her friend's uncle when she was
doing a sleepover and later by her cousin. She later discovered from when her little sister made a comment about her cousin that he was abusing her as well. And they had parental support.
They voiced they got support and that she's been a she's basically given up her career to be an advocate for these for this law to go across uh the country about having a voice and that action.
Uh the last one that was a big uh under sexual abuse was the human trafficking and we all understand that that's a that's a big thing. We want kids to be able to recognize signs and symptoms of of the situations that that that can
occur. And so we're we're trying to further educate kids to create a you know a better life and a safer place for them. I believe. Sorry, on that last note. So, the human trafficking, is that new this year or
just amplified? This would be new. Yeah. I just want to give props for that. Um, at the at Central High School at the end of the year, a number of us have volunteered with the ELA project and I've had kids, seniors present projects
on that very topic and were advocating that all kids be educated on it. And there was a story a couple years ago on local kids. So really appreciate your you're adding that to the curriculum. It's really important because I teach at Central High and those senior projects, I often get
interviewed by kids for a variety of things. Sometimes something to do with sexed, something to do with um nutrition or fitness. I do a lot of those to help them with their project and because they they do interview people and and uh
gather information and whatnot. So, this makes a real good resource for us. But again, uh I have an amazing committee that painstakingly put a lot of time and energy in. I think we had eight meetings
this year, which is the most we've ever had, but it was because there was just more. We we already we already have things on our list that we want to look at next year. So I hope you have a succession plan.
So whoever takes me over that's I have just a few questions in fifth grade about how much time do you actually spend on? The fifth grade
between puberty and HIV is I'm guessing it's at least a couple hours if not longer. Okay. Um and it's caught it's taught over a series of days. It's not like one big two-hour thing. They they teach part day one here, day two, day three. It's it's
organized in that fashion. Because the thing that I found lacking in fifth grade was um I I didn't see where any of the other sexually transmitted diseases were covered. Were they covered in there too? I I don't believe we do that in the
fifth grade. I think some of those um may show up in even larger numbers and HIV tends to show up more in males because Oh yeah. statistically there's a slide
in the that we added in the high school one that particularly uh talks about what we talked about board curriculum. Yeah. And then uh you know but but girls should understand about chlamyia and gorrhea things like that uh hep
we do that at the middle school and the high school level. Um we can we can look at at the at the elementary level for sure. I can take that back to the committee next year. It's not just HIV. Oh, yes. But HIV is the one that HIV is
the one that the law says we have to teach at each building. So that's why that's why it's taught at the fifth grade level. That's why it's taught in the middle school and that's why it's taught the high school and in 8th grade to really stress it's a
high-risk behavior that is so important in whether you do or don't transmit the disease. Um, it says in there, you know, that if you keep your CD4 count very low, your
infection rate, that it can't be transmitted. But to do that, the cost of that, the drugs run $1,800 to $4,200 a month. And there are avenues that help, you know,
lying white, that kind of thing. But they're talking a half a million over a lifetime. And trust me, when you have a disease like that, it rules your life. So it is not a benign thing. No, I mean you don't you just don't
we don't present it as it is. We just we talk about the medical advancement that it is because like we talked at the board curriculum about Magic Johnson. When Magic Johnson was detected, it was a death sentence, right? and the fact that he's still with us today. Part of it was he was a world
class athlete. Uh part of it was very early detection, right, was key with him. So testing for for all all STI is a huge huge thing. So So the best point I think you know the committee might next year think
about just identifying that there are extreme costs for those you know while the advances have it's not cheap. Yeah. Just don't just don't. And so, um, I was going to the state website and in
your slide number three, the data says, as of 22 that 71% of all new cases were young males. 71% of the cases, you know, and I I think that's important.
Um, that was in the high school slide. Yeah. We don't have the percentage I don't believe in the high school side. We just I think we just make it make make mention that it is sounds like it's an even distribution
thing and it is it's not because of behavior. Yep. It's the behavior thing. Um so if if you'd like I can present that next year to the to the committee just update that statistic to make that more prevalent. And in slide number
three, um the middle thing when they're talking about prevention, they say fewer partners, monogamous relationships are actually probably would be preferred. It on slide 20.
Okay, that helps. Um fewer partners uh is going to leave you in the dust. Um and then um
in slide 23 um absence is not the only way to prevent HIV because it crosses the placenta. It that is covered in HIV that there are three any bodily fluids
but but absence is a is an important says absence is 100% the only way. That's what the slide says. Well, it Okay. What slide are we? What are we talking about here? Slide in the high school. Which one? No. Um, well, they would have we could go to the
presentation. Oh, I see. Okay. So, it's just it's just minor things like that. The last question I had was do you guys um mention Thrive as a provider for teen
pregnancy? We mentioned Thrive, the Thrive Clinic. I don't believe that's in our resources at this time. I was just kind of wondering there was any possibility of including Thrive.
I don't believe they do STD testing, but they do do pregnancy care, and I think that they do everything to work out what happens to be. Okay. Um I can like I said like with other things we can we can uh bring that
to the committee next year to look at if the and then the committee that may have been suggested in the past. I I can't recall and the committee might have said yay or nay to that and then it doesn't come forward. That's what I was just going to say to like so we don't Yeah.
Not that I want to discourage any board member from saying anything and and this is great. I'm done. No, that's fine. like the uh I don't think anything the best said I've got a problem with per se but like I think the more there's always more send it to you take it to the committee and then bring it back next year
I want to make one point about the abstinence statement I believe we by law have to make a statement of abstinence being a way to prevent a ways away works I feel I feel like the wording is actually more
so I think that that statement was is is was in here because of we have to say it is a it's also in when we get into our SDI that abstinence is I think what she's saying is that it kind of says is the only way. Yeah. Yeah. No, I understand what she
said, but I was just saying we might want to change the wording next year to make I feel like if I remember correctly that the law is written that abstinence must be the highest level, which is what and yeah, the unit at the high school actually starts with abstinence and then
abstinence comes back again and again and again throughout the unit as we talked to other about other parts. Information on date uh drugs remains very good. And that was in there.
So from a procedural point of view, we obviously there's it's in the packet. All we have another meeting in order to officially approve it. Obviously if there's anything that comes on the meeting, let you know. And it's available in the packet to the public. And again, those videos that are passed, they can call my office and with
Tammy and can make an appointment to I'm going to bring popcorn. Anybody want to um Okay. Thank you. Any other questions from the board? Thank you, Dan. Um, so at this time, the board would like to invite comments from the public. Is there anyone who would
like to provide public comment? You uh Mr. Mr. Wea, I'm sure you know the rules at this point, so I won't repeat them, but uh you have three minutes when you when you start. I just encourage Yes.
I just encourage you to read this first history of sex education presented to the Texas legisl say about that sexual risk reduction
that's not good and then the six pages that's Audrey Warner's the expert on Kinsey her presentation to the Texas Legislature. And the last four pages in yellow are
last year's stuff. Maybe the new board members haven't seen it, but it's on my website tcfamily.org. See circle, the model penino code, how that got totally taken away to protect people. See circle, all this planning
and planned parenthood, all working together and being funded by Playboy and all this stuff. and the expert how she saw there was evidence of harm. Audrey Warner Judith Ryzeman article talks about the generations ahead program and
uh religious definition um you're talking one side I'm a Christian I look at it that way but the other side is humanism that's a religious belief too and that one's got free reign in the schools right now and it shouldn't be
that way it's harming these kids back to uh this handout she used in uh um just some quotes from that 1964 see it's on page two of the white pages in 1964 seeks the
sex information education council of the United States um Planned Parenthood head was one of the founders Hugh Hefner was funding it Lester Kirkindall um
he's part of the humanist society Dr. John Mooney. He's a guy that started transgender. He's a guy that neutered one of the twin boys and called him a girl. And both of those twins committed suicide from his helping them
out. And looking at the outcomes of sex head um just all of that and uh one thing is insincere. They say HIV can happen. But he doesn't mention that LGBT
samesex attraction stuff is about 25 times more probable. Thank you, Mr. Please consider this handout. Sexually grooming children's program. Is there any additional public comments specific to the sexual education public hearing
hearing? None. Uh I declare this public hearing closed and the sec second public hearing will be held on August 25th uh at the board of education meeting. The moving on the next uh item for
discussion is uh 9A which is now the central high school renovations. Uh I am deferring to Christine Thomas Hill. Good evening. Um we discussed this at length at board finance and operations. Um, so I'll go through this, but if
you'd like more detail, just let me know. Um, with our user group, um, which includes Justin, uh, the principal, some coaches, and, uh, PE teachers, we really felt like we were kind of at a crossroads as it relates to design and
financing design. Um, we have quite a few options available to us and really didn't want to spend a lot of money on design for all of those options, but are looking for the board to narrow that down for us. So perhaps we can work on design for one option. Um this isn't an ask to actually do construction this
way. It's to spend our resources on one option so that you have more information related to what a design could look like. So then we can get some further uh feedback from the community and actually get permission to go out for a bid on the project. Um we've laid out three different options um as it relates to
what we've studied. Um, as a reminder, our overall project goals, we have an estimated uh total budget of 20 million. Um, safety and security. We're looking at creating a single secure main entrance. Um, enhanced uh with the vestibule, creating um one point of
entry uh for the building, whether it's athletics or instruction or just during the day for school and having an opportunity to separate after hours events from the rest of the school. uh circulation, improving student flow, uh to eliminate the need to walk through gym areas to reach classrooms. Um that
also does hit on uh some of what Jesse talked about as relates to safety and some concerns for walking through hallways and stairs um to get to classes in winter when they're slippery wet, people with crutches and and etc. Um athletic facilities in increasing our
regulation courts to four. We currently have two regulation courts and one practice. uh providing centrally located locker rooms. Um this really is a uh during the day PE class uh um difficulty at this point with locker room spread out throughout the building and only one
or two teachers there to supervise students. So really looking at centralizing locker rooms um accessibility and operations improving ADA accessibility and sight lines updating our systems and finishes and then creating a clear internal separation for after hours events. So
that was uh hit on two. um minimizing disruption. Obviously with any kind of construction like this, you're going to have disruption. So just looking at each option and what kind of disrupt disruption and to what level it has and supervision again during the day, making sure that the PE teachers have
supervision of all the students no matter which gym or weight um weights and conditioning room that they're going to. So the three options uh the first one um we talked about quite a long time ago the option to not do any kind of addition or demolition to re just to re
um renovate existing structures. Um this comes um at a price tag all in at 19.6 million. Um some of the difficulty with this option is um first of all anytime you do renovations of older structures you don't know what you're getting into
all the time. So, um little bit worried the that the estimate on um the cost might not be enough to consider some things that we might not know about until we get into the building. Um also, you're really not able to um make ADA
accessibility completely um accessible for everybody. You still have a challenge with the different levels and some of the structure being below grade. So, that's not going to go away. Um it doesn't increase the number of courts that we have. Um for uh disruption, this
would eliminate a competition court for one basketball and volleyball season and supervision. It again it doesn't increase daily supervision. So a lot of things we felt weren't it wasn't really uh helping us get to secure a main point of entry and all of those things that
were part of our project goals. Um here is the picture. I mean really it's just what it is. The only thing we could do with 19.6 million is do a little bit of a increased renovation uh to try to make the main office more prominent where it is and to truly have a secure entry
vestibial like the other schools have. Um right now we have the door locked in a way that it does operate that way, but we could we could uh make it a little bit more prominent and add some features to it, but it certainly would not be a single point of entry. So that's a overall concept. Um existing building
doesn't really change anything. um we would do some improvements to ADA, but it certainly wouldn't be complete um easy access for all ADA accessibility needs. Uh for option two, sorry Christie, can I just ask you some there? I was I mean you said that like
that's pretty limited. It also comes at a heavy cost. Um I just wanted and I I apologize for putting you on the spot, but I think you're the only one here from 2018. Earlier today, someone emailed us a spreadsheet of 2018 bond plans and for
Central High School, the main gym exterior and interior renovations were on for $750,000 and then that secure entry was planned for $7 million. Did these get I I mean I'm guessing at
least the ladder did not get done at that time. So it was planned but it didn't Right. And it, you know, when we do our capital bond plans for 10 years or more, it's very flexible. We have thoughts and ideas of what we're going to do and then we have to prioritize. So many of those items that were listed cost way more
than we originally anticipated. Again, with the 20 2018 bond, we were using information that we gathered 5 to 10 years prior to that because we didn't have funds to hire an architect in a construction management firm to go around and do facility assessments. So some of our information was old, but
every one of those project cost quite a bit more and so we did have to prioritize. So some of it didn't get done. Yeah. So the main gym exterior and interior renovation zone did not happen when 2018. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. So option two um this would be no
demolition of any existing structure. It would simply be an addition of a new competition gym. So, um, this about the only thing that this is a benefit to is, uh, no disruption to a volleyball and basketball season for one school year. Um, some of the other things, uh, the
total cost is 21.5 million, so a little bit over budget. Um, we would not be able to do the new secure entrance vestibule. um and with one single location for point of entry and then being able to separate it from after hours events.
This one actually increases our circulation square footage making supervision worse. Um athletic facilities, it increases our regula regulation courts to four, but really does it because we're not touching the 58 or 68 structure. So how long would
those even be accessible to us? So for a small period of time we would have four regulation courts but at some point the 1958 and 68 gyms won't be available. Our lockers are loan alone at some point will be condemned. So it doesn't put any
kind of um any kind of renovations on those two structures. Um accessibility in operations. So obviously the new um addition would have good accessibility and accommodations for um ADA. The other two structures would be untouched. So, we would actually be increasing um space
circulation just to get people to and from the new to the old. Um disruption. I talked about that. And supervision, I talked about that. Going to the parking lot. Yes. Yeah. The other biggest um uh biggest negative is how much room I
take from the parking lot. And this gives you I think it's between 100 and 150 spaces we would lose plus the bus drop off for athletics. So there weren't we didn't feel like there was a lot of positives on this one and and neither did the board finance and operations committee.
I have a quick question. Uh when we talk about ADA and we talk about these major renovations, we lose the grandfathering of the current structures. Do they then need to meet all of the current codes for ADA? They do. So, if you're saying that
option number one, for instance, wouldn't necessarily meet all of the ADA criteria, it would it would meet it, but it still wouldn't be easy. There would still be areas that um wouldn't be easy to access. Um we would have to increase how many elevators, the size of the
elevator, some ramping, increase our circulation to meet the code, but it still wouldn't be ideal. So on all three options, we need to meet the minimum requirements for ADA accessibility. I'm not sure on option um
on option one. Yeah, we would still have to meet it. It would just be based on the two structures that and I'm not saying we shouldn't. I'm just asking the question. Okay. Yeah. And then option three, which out of finance was the preferable option. This was demolished the 1958 gym first so
that we could build a new competition gym in its place which would make the most sense as far as circulation supervision um and to not increase the total circulation for the building. So in this option um we actually had two price uh cost estimates that we talked
about at finance 19.6 six um would get us under budget or on budget. Um that would not allow us to do the wrestling room renovations, but at 20,200,000, we would be able to add wrestling to that. Um so, uh for this one, um there's
a lot to like as it relates to hitting the project goals. Again, circulation, it minimizes additional square footage. Um it does create those lockers, um centrally located right next to Weights and Conditioning, the small gym. It's kind of centrally located between all of
those gym spaces and it's completely adjacent or across the hall from the other lockers. So, it does help with daily supervision. Um athletic facilities, it increases our regulation courts to three, not four, but um that does provide the the opportunity for the
dedicated wrestling room. So, you would have three regulation courts. The new competition gym would have two regulation courts uh side by side. Be big enough for that. Plus, you would still have the 1968 gym. Um, for disruption, obviously, it does cause disruption. We wouldn't have a
competition gym at this location for basketball and volleyball, just like uh the first option. Um, but we do have some thoughts about that. Um, and then security. This does, um, for the the most important project, uh, goal that we
had talked about is creating that single point of entry. Right now we have students coming in off of Eastern Milikin and the fire lane all the way wrapped around the building. We would be able to create one single point entry that you could come in and go to athletics or go to the instructional
wing and all students and all visitors would be entering from basically from the eastern side. Did I understand on the current construction or the current layout of central gym that it's not meeting all the requirements of a competitive
gym? It does for one. Um, it's got two small courts for practice only, but you can't actually play on those. You can't play a game on those two courts because you don't have the fall the room for the fall zone. You can't really you can't really practice on them either. the um the auxiliary basketball courts, the
boundaries are literally an inch from the the actual bleachers from the wall. Sounds like Moskeegan's gym probably designer. So part of our process um we did discuss this at finance. Um we did have um Ben
here, the uh principal from Central High School and um John Sonamon. Um we were asked we asked him to join. Um Justin and uh Ben held a user group meeting with some community members um some current coaches, some former coaches and people that just have a general uh tie
to central that have had that tie for quite some time. Um and we got some feedback. So I'll I'll let um maybe you two kind of give a summary of um what community members were there and what the overall concern or feel was for how to move forward. Yeah, we had our our
current um coaches that use the use the gym for competition. So, both our basketball coaches and our volleyball coach. And then we had Mr. Son here join us. And we had um um three Yeah. three alumni um three
Traverse City Central alumni who either played in the gym, have kids that are are going through the program currently, or are just super fans as well. Um uh you know the big concern or the big question was about the demolition of the gym um at this point but I think every
every and John if you picked up something different let me know but the general consensus was they saw the need although we appreciate tradition we love our tradition and our history. Uh, you know, I'm wearing my 1853 polo right now when Traverse City High School opened, right? We also understand that tradition
and history can't get in the way of like actually serving our kids every day in PE and in athletics as well. Um, that was my general consensus. I think if I could make a comment, you know, I've probably spent more time in that gym than anybody here.
Yeah, for sure. in my case. Um, no, I've taught in that gym. My first classroom was in that gym building long before the 68 building
was even built. Uh, so I've been working in that gym since 1966. And like anything else, I I don't think any of us have worked in an office for
60some years without it being totally changed and it's a wonderful place. It's a nost there's a nostalgia to it. There's a character to it. But
when I think about ADA compliance, when I think about a single entry to the building for security purposes, especially in today's society, when I think about the supervision of trying to
cover all of the different areas that Dan and the other PE teachers need to do, it it just it it needs to be changed. I'm uh concerned that we don't just
build a new box. I don't want to see a gym that is, you know, has bleachers to the sky. But I think the important thing is going to be how we design this new structure.
And I think we can design it to be ADA compliant, to be a good competition area with some character and a good teaching
environment for the kids during the uh during the um school day. One of the problems with renovating is you're trying to renovate a place that basically is concrete.
It was wonderful when it was built. State-of-the-art. Yeah, state-of-the-art. One of the one of the best competition gyms in the north, certainly. But times change,
needs change, and uh I think it's time that we change. Thank you. Because I know what it means to you. Thank you. Again, I think out of the user group, there was an overall concern that it it's hard to say, you know, we vote for this or we want option three without
seeing what it looks like. But really what we're asking for is permission to move forward with one design potentially with a visioning committee that does include, you know, what are those historic features? What is the nostalgia you'd like us to replicate or bring into the gym? So, the design will be very
important to have community input. Um, and potentially we'll be able to bring a couple of different options to the board and have the community weigh in on it. We're not necessarily saying we would like you to com completely commit to this design um so we can move forward in the spring of 27. We just really want to
focus our efforts and our dollars on one design. I think the presentations were fantastic and it it pretty much leaves only one logical but I would ask the board if that is the case but if so I don't have does anyone have any questions? I think
it's pretty much covered finance peach baskets in this one. Peach baskets. Can can I clarify? I think in in uh in finance I think it was and I speak up if if it's different I think having the wrestling renovation so that was
was included was talked about option four option four essentially I changed option I changed option three to add a note at the bottom and and bolded it so that to John's point we're talking about option four with the resting room correct right yes taking that small gym that the
newest gym actually but which is not regul population size and turning that into a wrestling area. We've all seen that wrestling closet. Yep. You know, now just before the only question I guess I had, not to open up any cans of
worms, but the 1968 gym, so um as part of this this project with only $20 million available, we wouldn't touch that. Um, we would have to do uh we would still have to have an elevator to get um folks to the uh below grade
which I I don't know if you guys know this, but I uh originally it was supposed to be a pool and they couldn't afford a pool, so they just did a gym but left it below grade. Um so we would have to maintain that, but I would propose in a new bond that that would be something that we would address with new bond money. And honestly, um this
project couldn't even start until as early as spring of 27. So, it's a lot of work to do over several years and I think we'll be potentially into a new bond scenario that it might really just kind of look like one project. And that's kind of where I wanted that's I guess and I know you said that in finance, but that was like my concern
with doing to your point, Scott, when we had this conversation is like doing one thing and then having to come back and then having to deal with the 1968 gym and be like, well, if only we had changed the wall here, you know, now we have to have a firewall here and that's going to cost an extra x number of dollars. So like
when we're going through this process, I would I would follow that is I think the board's general consensus is that we're trying to do things the right way even if efficiently cost effect efficiently and cost effective over a long period of time rather than I think we did review that and because
the um the 1968 gym was built with an exterior wall and the hallway was added after the fact, there's a good separation there that um we think that the Only added cost that could be one time if we do demolish it later would be
an elevator um an added elevator appropriately sized elevator so that we have students that could actually fit into it with their wheelchairs. So, as of right now, obviously design might show something different, but I would keep you informed. Yes, like again, I get where we're
going. But I think regardless of any of that conversation option three is where we're all So, the board would be approving the design and then after that design, envisioning all that, we'd be bringing that back to the board obviously, you know, at a final point to to be able to ask questions and make sure these kind
of things were followed. Yep. The goal originally would be to begin in the spring of 27 and then finish in the fall of 28. So it'd be one season lost for volleyball and basketball. And
Justin's got some pretty great ideas on how to accomplish where they would go. Obviously we have Monasuri that could be the home uh for the Trojans for a bit, but also some other thoughts and other areas that we can use the season to the tone court would have to Yeah.
Correct. Yes, sorry. I move that the board of education approve option three with the wrestling room for $20.2 million uh for the design of the Central High School renovation project. This will give administration permission to move forward with the design for this
project. Second. Second. Um okay. Any other discussion? Can I have a roll? Sure. Um Trusty Schmidt? Yes. Trustee Molenar. Yes. Trusty Veras. Yes. Trusty Ballinger. Yes.
Trusty Hardy. Trusty Pack. And President, yes. Motion carries. And just again to be clear, that is only design of the building, not what you're seeing as a cost. We'll be back working with TMP for the design.
Yep. And I'm Justin, do you want to talk about the alternative site for CHS? Well, I mean, you know, obviously with with two years to go, we would have to get creative, but like, you know, Monastery's got a fantastic gym that we
access currently. East Middle School is getting some major upgrades this actually this summer as well. That would make it a little bit more appropriate to play some high school games on as well. And we're already accessing East Side Elementary Schools. Uh, for example, in the fall when we do statewide testing or even in the spring, we have to do statewide testing. We do those inner
gyms. And so some of our teams have to go out into the Monasuri into Eastern uh East Middle School, all sorts of things like that. So the logistical side of it actually is the fun puzzle for me, a fun project for me. Uh so that would be a yes, it' be a challenge, but one that
would I would actually have a little fun doing. So Okay. Um moving on to the next discussion item now. Item B, uh the multi-purpose fieldhouse. Again this discussion is specific to uh addressing
architecture and engineering services um but going to talk about okay very similarly just looking at design um I've provided the board with uh a memo that breaks down a lot of information that I' I've given the board uh over time we've talked about uh the
first is just working with TMP on some some pictures of what something could look like they've done some of these in the past they take kind of the pictures of something like they've done in the past. They put it on a plot of land and they give you that as an initial talking
point. Um, so that's included uh in the in the with that along with their proposal of what it would be to do the design work. Much like we just talked about the gym to do that design work. TMP is doing that. They would be doing that as as well. Um, also in the packet
is a five-year proform, essentially a business plan. Um, that gives an analysis by a third party group. Um, both Justin's here and uh and Jason, our athletic directors, they had the opportunity to give input to uh SFA into
that uh to to give some ideas into them. SFA is a a a national company that helps look at creating those uh models and business plans for schools, for facilities. Um and and one of the unique things about that is had a real familiar familiar
thank you familiar understanding of Traverse City. Uh the gentleman that is the uh CEO of the company, his parents live here in Traverse City and so has been here well. He's done some things with soccer. Jason actually knew him in the past some of the soccer things he had done across the state. Um so really
have a real reputation for this work and creating um what your expenditures are, what revenues are you can look like. Um and really that that was built upon the idea of this being a facility for our kids um with just some small amount of
of uh of opportunity for some tournaments and things enough just to make sure that the revenues were able to cover uh the expenses. more could be done, but we're designed in the idea of this facility is for really for our kids um for some of our community partners
such as T-Bays and Waves and Youth Lacrosse and others to to have some opportunity which are made up almost all of our kids as well. Um so that uh gives you an idea of what that looks like. Um, also, uh, the Great Lakes Sports Commission, um, awarded a $25,000
planning grant to help pay towards some of the cost of getting the environmental look at the property, uh, to see if that is a feasible site. Um, we've looked at many different sites of land that we own. That was key. We don't have a lot. We have a plot of land at Potter and
Four Mile, quite a ways out. We have quite a bit on Church Road out uh, um, on the very west side of our district. Thoroughby field is a very small plot um that also is a housing uh area and so that is is very tight and some struggle
to fit what you might want um from that standpoint as well and the city right now has some ideas of some housing and some things zoned for that area. Um, so we've looked West Middle School, the the practice fields over there. You have a big hill that you would get into and and
also some wetlands area that cause a real problem there because we really tried the idea in the beginning of the center of the district, but really there's no feasible property that that's there. So, um, Carile Road was one that that that kind of fit that bill. Um, it's the backside of East Middle School
property we already have. Um there are soccer fields there already along with some baseball uh and softball fields that we to an extent depending on design we could keep and so you would have access to outdoor and indoor um if you're running summer camps and such on
that piece of property. Um so so with that uh we've been working with some different partners and community groups. Um you'll see if you can click slide for me here. So uh mentioned the Northern Michigan Home Field Alliance. um a nonprofit uh made up of some local folks
that um Jessica Sullivan was uh made public comment um helping bring that group together to try and look at what are some feasible ways to do some fundraising and some things again having it be about our kids um in doing that. And so, uh, um, you may remember, uh,
earlier, um, a few quite a few months ago, I brought to the board the idea of getting approval to do fundraising for this, um, that the board unanimously passed to, um, allow me to work with the Northern Michigan Homefield Alliance to start that work, um, to look at a fundraising campaign, uh, towards this.
Um, so, uh, next slide, if you would. Again, these are renderings that TMP put together of a very similar building. They're finishing Spring Lake right now, which is a very similar kind of building. They've also done Jackson, Detroit Country Day, um quite a few others. They also did Legacy Center in
Brighton. Um done others. So, this is some of the pictures. If you'll scroll here, this is essentially on that site at uh at Carile. Um again, this is one orientation. There could be a different orientation that could slide it more to the back um uh going away from the road.
um gives you an idea of what could be inside as far as surfaces. Um we one of the things we we've thought of and we we visited a lot of these others. They have multi-urfaces. Some have a lot of baseball softball nets. Um they have uh
you know some have all sport courts that are added in. Um if you go down to uh um Whiteall, they have one that has half turf, have basketball courts in it. Um some have tracks. Uh Lincoln down in Ipsellani Lincoln uh consolidated
schools has one that essentially has the field all of the field events and track um which they do and and uh um they they do use it as a a profit model for with their students and also doing large uh um track meets a lot of is what they do.
Um and so I've had the chance to talk with their superintendent. Um I've visited there multiple times on what that looks like. with that field, you're able to see they have five things going on at one time. They're running all their track kids. They're running a sports court. They've got the field
separated into three for for uh soccer, for lacrosse, um and uh and baseball, softball, all going on at the same time. Um so that that's uh that's one that these models is what you see is based off of that
that they took uh from that. So um again just gives you some ideas of what could be there's nothing at all in stone. This has not gone through any kind of committee. There's nothing solid. This would give us the opportunity to um if we were to do design to put a team
together uh much like we have every other project Monasuri central grade school. We talked about central hygiene to put a group together and see what that might look like. Um and and one of the goals is to provide some access for some kids possibly. We'd love to see if
there's some opportunity for our east middle school kids after school. Um, you know, we do want to look at this as an opportunity for like maybe a a free afterchool program. We know at the west side of town that we have access to the Y. Um, some kids are charged with that. I did actually check with Andy about $24
a month. They do have a lot of kids on free scholarship. Um, that's something that I did talk to Andy as well that we'd love to try and work at conquering to see if all kids at West Middle School had the opportunity to that if this was there. um he's very interested in that conversation. He's the executive
director of the Y. Um so this uh you know gives you really that background. Estimated costs um also are included in the memo working with uh um Hallmark Construction, a local firm we do a lot of work with. They are interested in in
being a part of this to a point even at a discounted rate um to be able to give for um construction management of this facility. um they really are interested in seeing it built for the kids here and are willing to do quite a bit of a discounted uh rate of providing that. Um
they they have a real history of that. Many of their kids are in tecaps. In fact, they're donating right now the install of the lockers in the soccer uh building over at West High School right now uh putting them in for free. Um so this gives you that. Also in the presentation, one of the things that the
home homefield uh alliance um is wanting to do is if this was able to be successful to try and raise more money and see if we would be able to help with the auxiliary gyms that could possibly help at Central, put another one at West. We many times the board has had
people come to them and say we don't have enough spaces for all the kids for the different opportunities. Thought it was something interesting when we met with the Central High School team. John Lober um longtime coach in our district mentioned of when he had started and I think John would say it as well that
title nine was not in place for girls sports uh you know when they started and so now you've added girls lacrosse you have uh the the flag the the flag core that and I never get the exact name right of uh that that work has been banned and they also now have a season
color guard color guard thank you uh in the winter so they're looking for space they I met with their coach and that element. So trying to just find ways for different space for our kids for different opportunities. Um you know one of the things that we have I could envision um more of our robotics
tournaments that are have large Sagenov Valley has one of these. They host the state robotics tournament there. They're able to do that right there and have that some things like that. So anything and everything that we could do to provide service to our kids and not only just our kids I think you know many of the districts in the region look to us
as well for help. I had the Buckley superintendent stopped me and just said this would be something for our kids to be able to come to a track meet in the winter to do that that we never could do and that this is something that could provide the region kids with opportunity. So, um I've put all that
information together for you. Um, I also did, uh, one of the things that I have had feedback from board members in the past as we've talked about this is first and foremost that there needs to be a business plan and some money set aside upfront to make sure it's not a drain on the district's resources. Absolutely.
The business plan, I believe, you know, creates that. Again, it's a third party looking at that. I have had the chance to go look at other facilities, especially Lincoln. Um, many of the other ones that did not have that goal. If you go to Jennison, they said, "Nope, we're we're good. we're going to pay for it out of our general fund. You go
Jackson the same way. They don't open it up to anything else. Pretty much just their high schools. Um Lincoln's the model that I think is one and would be happy to set up a visit to be able to sit with their superintendent and others to be able to see what they've done. Um I think it's quite extreme. They've gone
to try and make three a quarter of a million dollars, you know, to be able to pay for things. I don't know like I my goal in in in designing this was not really to make money. It was just to make sure to hit that goal of, you know, building a revenue model that that
doesn't cost the district. And also, uh, I presented to the Traverse City Tourism Board, um, about 3 weeks ago about the idea, if this was built, of having a maintenance fund, making sure that there was a fund up front that was in a in a restricted uh, interestbearing account
that would make sure that there was money there for when the turf needs replaced or the roof. We do something similar with Throwby Field. A dollar of every ticket we have that we collect goes into a reserve fund to make sure there's money for that facility. So we would see something very similar.
Probably even the ticket idea would be the same for this that we would consider when people come in. Um so um you know with that uh these are just some general thoughts of you know when design and engineering could start if the board wanted to move forward. Um give you idea
of some timelines. Um, you know, we it would be close to a finish of similar based on the timeline we talked about the central gym that this could be used as well. Um, you know, for Beth brought that up the last time we talked asking questions about that. I have had the chance to talk to the folks at the Grand
Travers Resort. They have portable courts that they use for tournaments. They put over all of their tennis courts. Think there would be some interest in maybe trying to work out something there to be able to use those. So, we had courts for the um volleyball and basketball season to be able to use
those during the construction of Central as well that could be done. Um but again, overall trying to build something for our kids primarily. Um trying to make sure that it's multi-use. Um I also mentioned uh in the memo about LEAP of
looking at um extending opportunities there. One of the things, you know, that I I hear all the time is we would like to have something for maybe each of our elementary schools of their, you know, wintertime of their soccer team to be able to have and be able to provide a league for all those kids that may not be able to do travel, may not be able to
do those kind of things. Um, so really, you know, going to be very open to that idea of what we can do as we go through strategic planning, those ideas, what do we want to do that's best for our kids, especially our kids that are uh economically disadvantaged to make sure they have opportunity. Um, so this uh
gives us an opportunity to explore that, truly do a design, get an idea of what the costs are. Um, are there more avenues for funding? We do have still in the hopper with uh John Roth that was covered in the record eagle a request for funding that you know could be used.
Um what other type of donation kind of things with in kind might we be able to get but until we get design and know exactly what that is to be able to sit down with people and donors and all those folks on what that is. We wouldn't be able to do that. So, um, what I have
here is that, uh, um, contract for with TMP to do a design of the facility to see what that would look like and to be able to bring that back to the board with some bid costs and such that give an idea of what that looks like. So, do you have a big enough space that you could put in a horse corral and a barn?
No. I'm looking for other alternative funding. Yeah. Could you go back to the slide just show the showing the aerial view? Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. Okay. So, I can I'm I'm fairly
familiar with EMS. So, um I just wanted to make that that thick white line the Yeah, that's a trail. Yeah. Yeah. It's partially paved and partially a wood bridge that goes right there and it goes right to that site. I walked it about a week
ago, right? Um really wellmaintained, really nice wooded trail. Right now, some of our kids go sometimes they they go from there over to the softball field. One of the things we'd want to do is try and and you can see this is a different design with the with it going in a
different direction. Again, when we get in design, we can look at all those things. I think one of the goals would be on that site is to maintain as much of another soccer field and with a softball, one of the baseball softball fields. Um there is another field at East Middle School that they also use
depending on their time to the the uh north of the building that you'll see there. So there's plenty of room for all that kind of activity. But one of the things we can see with LEAP is that summertime we do like the kids be outside and be able to do some of that, but when it's raining and thundering, we don't have to tell parents we're canceled for the day that we would be
able to run those activities kind of rain or shine. Um so that's there. But that trail is you well maintained. Um it's a really really nice trail that connects those something on here because um that that wasn't actually my my question. I'm aware of that trail but this is the
envisioned parking lot for that fieldhouse. And it's just it's this is just a drawing. There's no vision. That would all have to be a part of reading this right. And then this is this center is this center ice? That's center ice. Yeah. So right across and then just to the south is the armory
right. And is this thick white bar uh on overlaid on Carl Road is that what does that signify? Just the road. Okay. Okay. So that's right in the middle of the cross country field. What what they use for cross country? Well there is if you slow it the other way it's not. So like I said we would go
through those design. One thing about this property did have initial conversations with East Bay Township about all those. It does have utilities. It does have water. It does have sewer. Some of those kind of things with it. that's uh you know with center ice being there in the armory that's investments they made but um did you know looking at
easements and there's also uh um on the property uh on the far edge a municipal well that's not an issue you know in it but we would still have to go through environmental that's a part of this again design checking all those things seeing does this site suitable for it
and you know if so you know we know that if not it would be coming back to the board to say back to the drawing board on what site might look like. But again, of all the sites we own, you know, this has utilities and and those kind of things that a lot of our other properties do not, unfortunately. Um,
and again, the only other spot really was that spot at at West Middle, but you would take away that entire football practice field and you'd have to cut part of the hill out that goes behind the baseball fields that could really be an issue with erosion. You'd have probably build a retaining wall. you
know, some of kind of those things as we initially talked with we tal we did have it looked at by some of the local excavators gave us a couple ideas and they just said it can be done but that's a challenge there and and other than thoroughby we don't really have any property and and uh and and throw is
narrow and and there it is a housing community as well right there already and and parking for Thoroughby also is is is tight issue very much so so 400 cars is that what you're visioning again have not done anything with I
haven't done any of that that's where design all that comes in with architects looking there is somewhat of a parking lot there now um I envision it have to be expanded but again you know that there was a rough number that they gave there in the budget that it would fit you know based on the size but again
till we get into design and all that to know exactly what that looks like what can be you do have to the where the pine trees are that is a wetland area so you got to figure out retention p that's all with architecture, engineering, design. That's what they do to say right up front whether this a buildable site and
if so, where can you put it? What are your restrictions? How far does that have to be from one of the road? All those kind of things. And that's what these folks do. TMP as professionals. We do not want to shortcut the parking. And the second concern is egress.
Uh getting into the facility and getting out of the facility has to be really considered. These are two-lane ramp roads, are they not? It is. Yeah. Yeah. And so that too is going to be real important. And and they, you know, they have experience with dealing with center ice
and getting out right across the street as well as the armory, but that's something we would work with. Township, the architects would, that's exactly what they do, Beth. And we would bring that back for the board to be able to give input in, you know, things like if that was the case. It's a lot of money for athletic
facilities, especially when I can hear the music people in the back of my head talking about we need a performance venue as well. And that would be, you know, I've said all along with this that um I've mentioned that to Jessica, that's would be our next project we would go after.
As I've said it to Fenoy when she was on the board, that that is something I think this community definitely needs and is interested in. And I think I'm interested in trying to whether I'm here, retired or whatever, still living in Traverse City, I'm committed. I think that's something that our community
needs as well and something that we would love to see and and uh see if we can get philanthropy as well behind that. I think it's just athletics either. I mean, robotics, that's a lot of uses for this is can you put in some possibilities so that actually you might
be able to use it almost. So Jennison does that now. they have a band tower in it um and they're able to put the acoustics and everything in for their band to be able to use as they practice for competitions or it would also be almost like an outdoor concert good facility
and again that's cost to that but you can talk that and and put it as options in design um and one thing I think to clarify too is I and I think we're all all in agreement that the the goal coming out of this is that it's self- sustaining including
upkeep, replacement, and any long-term costs that come with roof replacements. But and that number should be zero from the operating fund is our goal. But at the same time, it is worth noting that we currently do expend operating fund dollars on things that we're wrapping
into this budget as well. Like we've got at least a part-time lead coordinator that we're talking about wrapping into this project. So if even I I don't want to sell it to the community that we're making money on this project. I think we could if we
wanted to especially um it's a balance of but it's not to come at the cost of our kids having access. Exactly. And that's where and that's not what it's being built for for you know other people other than just making the business plan. So there's just enough of it to be able to
make it sustainable with again if there's an element of of money that's generated that we can use for LEAP other things that but again we would take direction from the board on how far we want to go with that but if we achieve that we're actually helping to a small extent but certainly
an extent our operating fund because we do have we are pulling a few things out of there with le and that would have to be talked about with you know what the board's goal budgetwise and things but again we get through design all that what that looks like and then we can have all those kind of discussions as well. Um and then my only other point was to
the fundraising of we've talked about you know um other venues and other types of facilities. I think one thing talking to business owners across town is uh there's no one that's actually managed to pull off any sort of these projects because no one's been able to hold
everything together because it is so confusing and so many pieces. We've got a fundraising group. we have a lot of wealth in the community into that do seem to be doing things just not with us or these sort of venues and I I do feel
like this is a practice run for a completely different type of funding model personally well and I wouldn't want to have that get lost in this discussion either we really do appreciate the fact that there's contributions from the general public in a private public partnership way
I was involved on the board when we tried to do the performance ing arts center at Central High School and that was solely on the backs of TECAPS and it didn't go very well. Um, this collaboration I think is invaluable and I also think these drawings are the next logical step because it's the only way
to pin down a hard number on exactly what this cost. The only thing I want to kind of caution of public private partnership is we would own this. TCAPS owns it runs it, maintains it, you know, with that with that excess fund. But that way we're able to control that it's for our kids first. And so I
just want to make sure that's clear and again appreciate the the partnership the nonprofit others and and but that's the the one thing with this is that you know we we sometimes do struggle like you know with the why at their capacity is only so much for their pool. Our kids would love to get in their pool at the
at the Y you know on Silver Lake Road but it doesn't happen. And so that's one of the things with this is that that the TCAPS does control and own the building, you know, from its opening. I understand that. But I also think that
the source of your money is totally across the community. Whether they have kids in school, whether they're kids, you're paying tuition to go to another school. So, it really is something where you
have to acknowledge a certain amount of utility to the whole community. And that's something I asked Jason and Justin can speak to that. They put together a mock uh draft of kind of what that would look like with some of the TBAs and the other groups that have talked to them about that access. And
every time I've had the chance to talk to any of those groups, they've literally been said, "We would just love to have a day, an evening, you know, like we that we don't have now." I think we can do more than that, but again, I think that you lay out what the board's goals are for access primarily first and
foremost to our TCAPS kids. But, you know, there'll be room. It's going to be packed. It's going to be running from early morning to late at night, you know, from that aspect. Uh, you know, with opportunity. Um, but I think you can acknowledge that and you can meet that. and our ads have put together some preliminary scheduling of what together
for both high schools as well as as uh our middle schools and those groups of what that could look like. And I think to John's I think what John was also getting at is we could turn we could alter thinking and turn this into a larger profit center which isn't what TCAPS is about. We're about educating
kids. Um, so that's the community focus, but at certain time we do have to have a few events to make sure that we ensure that we don't touch the operating button. So like that's when we're talking about show whatever it may be. I agree with you. We can go much further down that rabbit hole, but we don't want to we want it
for things that benefit the kids in our community. And and that was when you know going back to 2018 like when I first started this conversation with Jason Carmine is at PAC there was the the proposal put in there. Record Eagle ran a story even just shortly before the election that talked about an indoor practice field.
And so that's what kind of started our conversations with all this and had the chance to meet Jessica and others and began continuing the the conversation of what that could look like. Um this is definitely larger than than just an indoor practice field. Um but you know
that that gives opportunity with the philanthropy part of it like that gives us the ability to have something larger than just a smaller indoor practice field. Um, that's what you look at Jackson, look at others, they just kind of have a half, but you know, they they only they don't let anybody else use it
outside of their in their community. It's just a program for their kids after school and just their sports teams. And so this gives us an opportunity to have something more than what might have originally been vision. I wasn't here in 2018. Jason was going to be able to talk to that, but as we are, but but it gives
that opportunity. Well, I can see, you know, summer can't be very important. There's a serious need for that in the community daycare. I think there's a very serious need for that. I could see kids that were having a real struggle on math to give them the
carrot of if you make a certain level, you're on this team and you'll be acknowledged, you know, and I think that some of when we do strategic plan, some of the conversation about what are we offering our kids, especially our kids that are economically disadvantaged to have some
opportunity. And so I I'm excited about looking at what are all those opportunities to be able to do that. And I you know looking back um you know having served you know the longest on the board I mean this conversation has been going on for a really long time. Um
the our board has asked for a business plan and that was provided. Our board has asked for funding to come forward so that we didn't have to carry the weight and that has come forward. um you know, we we asked Trevor City Tourism um to step forward in a sponsorship role and
that that has come forward and then of course the planning grant and so I feel like you know we've asked for all these things just in the last couple years and we're at that point uh where the next logical step as Scott said is to um allow for that design uh element to come
up with what would this cost look like? Um and you know so um and just a couple other points um we had some emails saying that the location isn't ideal which in the beginning I was uh uh very
uh vocal about the location. Uh however um it is six miles to Tra Trevor City I'm sorry to Central High School and 11 miles to West Senior High. So we're talking about a four mile difference between the two schools. Um I do agree it is on that central side. Um and
again, you know, down the road, looking at maybe smaller facilities at at each high school would be would be great. Um but and and one last point I really want to make on the heels of the central high school gym discussion is a lot of that discussion is about safety and changing
what is there because of safety issues and having been at West Senior High with my two kids, uh not Central because my kids don't go there, but um a friend got a concussion with a lacrosse ball last year in the gym because they were trying to practice. Um, watching my son do
hurdles in the hallway while kids and parents and are trying to walk around um is not safe. Um, watching students that can't practice and then are thrown into a soccer game with like one practice is not safe. Um, and I just really look at,
you know, preventing injuries and allowing our kids just more time to prepare for competition outside of our area. I just think that our kids deserve this and this has been talked about for years and it's the the plan is put in
place and and I again I'll say it again, Dr. Van Wagner, Jessica, I applaud all of your efforts in this and bringing the right people together. Um and you know, we're looking at additional bond money that's left over and potential donations. this this wouldn't cost um
our district and I just think that um from that perspective um you know I look at when we built our STEM labs we didn't have the population to fill those STEM labs the goal is that's the way technology is going and that's what we want to provide for our students and be cutting edge technology
so we built these amazing innovation and manufacturing labs and with hopes to grow those programs and so um I think that this provides and I and again I I've said it at finance But I love the idea of of LEAP and providing more
opportunities to kids. Right now, LEAP um is at a negative 200,000 annually. If we can again have those tournaments that could write that and actually put us into the green with revenue, that's the goal here. And I think there is
opportunity. You look at the perform, you look at other sports complexes or indoor facilities and depending on how we decide to use that facility, I think we can not only be in the green, but also possibly fund kids that can't
afford and can't afford to join travel teams and c and and talk about equity. I mean, this is a way to bring more income into our district and create more equity in my opinion. And even beyond the revenues of the
center, I think again showing the public donors that we can do it helps with the SSM which could help with LEAP. We're already seeing seeing it. So, I mean, yeah, I I do know there's some other points that and happy to have them um as well. I will just say that as
a you may not be able to tell, but I did grow up a very redheaded child. Uh I'm gray now and uh being outside in the sun was not for me. I remember the only time I actually got to do a camp, it was a cricket camp, and I had thirdderee burns at the time and uh could only do indoor
facilities growing up. So, it's not for every cricket camp. That's just doubly painful. Yeah. And it was cricket. It had to be. It really was cricket camp. I didn't make that up. Um, so it isn't for everyone, but any what other questions? What other anything?
I just have a quick comment and I won't I mentioned this during finance, so I won't go into detail, but it's no surprise that I'll ask for a delay for this and not because I don't think it's um I love the vision. I love the purpose of expanding our afterchool and and summer offerings through LEAP, which again stands for learning enrichment and
athletic programs um to benefit the learning and health and wellness of our kids. Um there's a massive opportunity to like like Erica talked about to make it more inclusive and equitable. Currently there's a massive opportunity gap between the kids who participate and those who cannot. Um currently we state
that LEAP off uh offers PK to 12 when actually all we we're currently offering is grade 2 to 8. So we're missing our youngest learners and and our high schoolers. I think that's an opportunity. and and with the Triber city tourism sponsorship and and our new foundation, I I truly believe that we
can um make uh leap free for all students K8. And um so my next logical step, you know, in in context to Scots is to make sure our our our alignment is um in in sync with what we're about to
approve at the end of August. And I'll just remind us all here, we all know that we have goals around happiness. We have goals around health. We have goals around well-being. And I'd like to see that uh three to five year commitment around really robust uh audacious goals
um that we can then make sure this project aligns with. Um there's currently also a lack of clarity around the district's financial outlook. in the ticker this past weekend, we're talking about uh belt tightening and I and I know and we all know here the different pots of money, but I I take that serious
and I think with one pot of money versus the other pot of money to make sure that that financial outlook um that we're we're taking serious and making long-term sustainable decisions. I'd like to I haven't heard from LEAP program uh our LEAP director, our health and well-being committee about what an
expanded LEAP could or should look like. I I'd love to to hear about that. You know, to John's point, I I love John's saying that we're going to form a visioning committee. I was kind of wondering, you know, where's the visioning committee with this since we have one for the for central and uh central grade. So, I love that that and
I think that that should come first to me. So, I'm I'm very supportive of the vision and the purpose. You know, I'm a health advocate. You know, I love physical activity. Um um but I'm I'm not uh I'm not supportive of the timing and
process. Well, let let me make a comment. I think the board is completely capable of multitasking. I think the points you bring up, Ty, are probably good ones. I think we owe it to those people who, like Jessica, who have been courting
private donations for well on three years to show evidence of the fact that we're serious about this and that at the very least we want to move on to get some engineered plans and get a hard number. We will have another conversation after we get those numbers in, I'm sure. Um, but I I I don't I
don't think delaying this is fair to anybody in the public. It's not fair to those people at TCAPS who are starting to lay plans on how they might use this facility. And I just think we need to move. Public entities are famous for kicking the can down the road and
waiting for consensus on things. And I think we have the majority of the people that have responded and evaluated this are in favor of at least taking the next step. Whether that means a fieldhouse at the end of the process, I don't know. But at
the very least, we want to know what we're talking about. I do have a sense of urgency with the fundraising with the fact that we may need not necessarily need but it may make our lives a lot easier with central high school um and the funding model
like yeah we're going to have but there's funding challenges coming up with all the all of the budgets at the federal and state level and anything we can do to even if it is 100 $200,000 is going to be huge. that. Yeah. So, I I want to first acknowledge the enthusiasm and the excitement and
the work over several years that many people have put into this um namely Jessica Sullivan and Dr. Van Wagner, Trevor Teachch, Warren Call, Scott Newman, Bale, and Erica Moon. Um, so nothing that I'm going to say diminishes
that and I I won't reiterate all the benefits that that people have extolled and and I am right there with you in terms of what I think this will bring to could bring to our community. Um, just to for the record, I've been on this
board since January of 2021 and it didn't come to the board, this board's attention until February of 2023 when I was then on the finance committee with Andrew Raymond, Holly Bird, and we three were the first ones to get this presentation. Um, three issues that I
raised at that time were the long-term maintenance costs, how they would be covered, um, so that wouldn't erode our general fund. Secondly was security plans and protocols because anytime you open up a TCAPS facility to public use,
you are creating vulnerabilities. Um, and thirdly, the ongoing operational costs again to reduce any strain on the general fund. So, Dr. Van Wagner has worked hard, I think, to address those concerns. Um, large to a great extent. I
don't I don't know all of the, you know, plans like the security in particular, but I know he's he's listened to me and I know he's tried to get those concerns addressed and I really appreciate that. So where I am now though is I as a board
member have been privy to this being picked up you know publicly or privately over the last two and a half years but I'm in a position of privilege here as a board member. What's really come to light now to me with the ticker and the
record eagle, the emails we've gotten, the phone calls, the text messages, etc. is that as tumultuous as this has been for a lot of people, it's it's an unknown to others in our
community. There is a lot of confusion. There are a lot of questions being raised. Now, some of it is people not understanding the difference between a bond fund and a general fund. Um, what the different pots of money are and how they can be used, but there have been a,
you know, teachers who've come forward saying, "Hey, we can't even get chairs and desks that are appropriate for our science classroom. If there are excess 2018 bond funds, why can't I get new furniture?" Um, you've got, you know,
neighbors and and other community members who are just questioning our fiscal responsibility. And I just want to remind everybody that five years ago when Scott Bale and I ran for office, this district was in bad shape.
Um, it's its public reputation. Um, and we ran independently, I think, on platforms of transparency, fiscal responsibility, good governance, and I just don't want to jeopardize the
public trust on this project. I think it's too important, too vague. So, I would propose that the district in conjunction with its partners TC Tourism and the Northern Michigan um
Homefield Alliance um hold a couple of information sessions on site at East Middle School, maybe have one at Central High School, West Senior High, just to be geographically neutral, but hold two or free
information sessions so that the district and and partners can answer community questions, explain how all this funding works. Um, bring them up to speed on the history and the evolution to how we got to where we are because if
you know some people remember it was going to be two locations, $10 million each and a 50-50 cost split. Now it's $17 million one location and the financing has has evolved as well. So, I just see the benefits of
better communication about all of this as something that could build public support for it and maintain even raise dollars for that matter with the the the private fundraising piece. And thirdly, maintain
the public's trust to support the district with future bonds and millages. So that would be my recommendation before we move forward as a board to approve the expenditures of any site design and visioning.
And I think we we literally had a ticker article six months ago. Like there was a this isn't the first article, right, that specifically said this is what we're looking to do. Um, and I I agree that like the visioning and all this stuff, there
should be public meetings and we should have discussions, but uh quite frankly, if you want to be fiscally responsible, we've got a lot of money on the table and I don't want to lose it. And I think Scott's point is well made.
It helps a lot better to have the plan and to have a site. You know, that's where I wanted a map. I'm beginning to sound like that woman in the King and I. I want a house. I want a map that says here in our school district is where
this is and here is where that is. And you can see the distances and you can see the parking. Yeah, the parking. I care about that parking. I do. The next step is bringing people in with
the design. It's hard to me to bring a group of people together when we don't have a lot of direction because then you there's just too many voices there. U not a lot in no direction. It's a very confusing like we've spent years on it with
and we're just kicking it down the road further. Yeah. So I feel like if if we're spending that money and it is designated for that then move forward with it. So I I move that the board of I move that the board of education approve
moving forward with contracting TMP architects to complete the architecture and engineering A&E services for the multi-purpose fieldhouse as discussed. Okay. Do I have a second? I'll second that. Okay. Um so there is a motion on the table. Um if there is any last points without
going into a ton we can we can have a vote on the motion. See if that succeeds. I just want to ask a clarifying question. You said that it would be fiscally irresponsible not to approve us tonight. Could you explain that? Yeah, I think we've heard multiple times we've had money on the table that's gone
away and you're talking about the private dollars or Okay, just to be clear, we're not talking about capital bond funds. I'm talking about private dollars. I'm also talking about the fact that we need a plan so we can go to legislatively
and say we have a plan. This is what it is. because it's it's a lot easier to sell uh an appropriation or any sort of public help of state or federal. Okay, so that's a new piece of fun. That's a part of the budget process. I
think now is the time we have money on the table. We've got an opportunity legislatively and we need to explore both options and we need a design to do it. But it wouldn't hurt if actually the plan came in just a little bit less than 650,000.
Yeah, I think I think that is that hurt my feelings. I'll work every bit of it if it's approved to try and I got it knocked down quite a bit already. It was 13 got it now down to 650, but I'll keep trying, you know, from that aspect and look at, you know, there and continue to look for
additional grants. I know the Great Lakes Sports Commission also did say that they're willing to look at, you know, another grant as well um of more um something of six figures, you know, to to try and offer. Um so um going to continue to explore all those things as well.
The front is where the expense is at this point. Agreed. Um so Tammy, please conduct a roll over. Um Trustee Moon, yes. Trusty Hardy, yes. Trusty Bajaras, yes. Trusty Ballinger, no. Uh Trusty Pek,
yes. Trusty Schmidt, no. President Newman, yes. Motion carries. Um and I do appreciate the board. This isn't an easy subject. And we one thing I think we need to do out of it is we we definitely need to keep on focusing on community
engagement and getting these designs done because there is a lot of work to do. And now we've said that I think that it's going to be in everyone's uh face a little bit and now um moving on to the next discussion item
which is now item C saving renovations. Um con considering of contracts is listed in the bid memo just going to Christine Thomas Hill. Yes. Um so I don't have a presentation on this one but this is um a bid for um
we actually utilize the construction management firm. So we have bids for every trade. Uh this is why you're seeing so many uh contracts recommended to be awarded instead of a single general contractor. Um, so this is to renovate um half of Sabin that was the
old elementary school minus the section that we already rent out um to the state police. Um other than we would do some renovations to their spaces for external windows and doors. So that would all be updated throughout the building. But the goal here is to get um HR and business
office there before this building has to be vacated for central grade. So we did go out for bid. Um we were pretty pleased with the number of bids re received and um a little bit lower uh than we had originally budgeted
and originally this has been numerous revisions but I believe originally we had 10 million in the bone we reduced it to 5 million based on some things and now it's coming and this and what you're approving today is construction only so it's still higher than that but it's still less than 5 million at this point so
that's good news we've been really pleased pleased with how bids are coming in and the number of bids we're receiving. So there there might be a little bit of a a change in the trend which is good news especially when we're coming up on central grade school. Yeah.
Generally we've been seeing a pleasant uh and an urgency from companies to seek a lot too but even getting calls back and bids which is exciting. It's nice to have a competitive environment. It is um and it's not exactly like it
used to be great but it's Yeah. You know, so Christine, I was just curious the was three million what we were projecting in like a few years ago with the with formulating the needs for the 2024 bond.
Um, no, we were projecting 10 because our goal was to get all of central office over there and that was the budget. This only gets HR and business office there. We're we're at right now the plan is to relocate superintendent's office uh communications and um curriculum
instruction to central high school unless something else becomes available for a temporary housing. No, it's the area that was vacated with the STEM area. All of the everything that moved with that down kind of um closest to the college um in the back
right there. So that's the area that there's about six rooms that were vacated with robotics gone and the computer labs and all that that moved to the the innovation manufacturing centers. That's the area we're looking at. Okay. We have double wides when I was in school at Central. Well, me too.
Got a math class on a double wide. I've taught in a It's not a double wide by the way. Mobile portable. A mobile. That's right. A mobile classroom. The PC word. My very first year I taught it one in a very cold morning every all winter.
Um on this project we are recommending approval I'm sorry approval of alternate 2. So we we asked for alternates so that we can get pricing on something we um don't have to necessarily accept if we feel like our budget is too high not knowing how the original budget comes in. We asked for two alternates. One was
just redoing the sidewalks as is. The second one is to increase parking, redo all sidewalks, and provide more ADA up close to the front off front of the building. And we are recommending accepting alternate number two. The only other difference on this one is we're actually recommending a 15% contingency,
and that's due to the age of the building. We've done that the past couple of years. We just have found um when you're in there with environmental remedies, sometimes you find a little bit more than you were expecting. And to have that extra extra contingency is nice. So, so just so I can keep my math,
I say that I'm never going to keep it right, but um with the obviously we had the five and you said it was going to come in less even after the additional items. I mean, how much less were we talking? Um I would have to get my numbers on design and all of the um asbestous removal work because that is separate.
Um I I think it's a little over four. Okay, that's been I'm talking like close to close to that. And I know this is complicated because of central grade school. You know, it's intertwined with with uh some central
grade school students being moved here temporarily for a couple of years while that building's being renovated. But what is the long-term vision for SA? Is it to house HR and finance permanently? What are you all thinking? The goal, my vision, yeah, the goal would be to have all of central
office there. Okay. Eventually. Okay. So, would this take care of that? we one and done with this is gonna be done for the long term the offices and all that for HR and finance. You already have uh tech over there. You already have now
the print shop over there that investments have been made in you know in the past with it. So I know we've gone back and forth on that question a long time but the answer is eventually yes even curriculum and Jo saying this is not going to cover that though right no all we're saying is from a vision of
what works being done is permanent for the future. used to be 10, now it's four, but there's going to be more when again not a part of this bond. It would be in the future. We're going for the rest of this and we're going to go into a rougher area, but I felt it was important enough to cut, you know, down
the bond and and I, you know, Jesse and and Dan, we all felt we can kind of be sometimes might be good in a school, you know, and so at least for a while, we decided to go that route, do the part for business and HR that has a lot of summer interviews, things like that. and to have Evan right there. It it, you
know, in print shop, it all kind of fits from that standpoint. And then as far as this building, that's something the board will have to decide in the future. We don't really have anything. We've had a lot of conversations in this community about early childhood needs and what could this building possibly serve with that, but that's quite a ways down the
road. I move that the board of education approve the contracts as listed in the bid memo including alternate number two for the renovations of Saven building for a total not to exceed 3 million42,168 which includes a 15% contingency. The project will be funded with capital on
funds from 2024. Second. Um any other discussion? Um Tammy, please conduct or roll. Uh Trusty Schmidt. Yes. Trusty Hardy. Yes. Trusty Varas, yes. Trusty Ballinger, yes. Trusty Moonmar, yes. Trusty Pack, yes. President Newman,
yes. Motion carries. Uh, moving on, which sounds like it's going to be a a interesting update on school safety, safe practice schools to drop my way. Yeah. So, this really is an extension, you know, that the board had requested
um with our conversations on Frankie Road and I know a lot of, you know, it's gone quite a bit about of different ideas of safe route to schools and we put some work into that and we're really still there. We're we're waiting on approval for a next step of, you know,
the some initial data has been created. Still not really a complete plan by any means developed for a safe route to schools grant. I think that's one of the things I want to make clear is that if by chance that money somehow comes back or another funding from the state or whatever like it's still very
preliminary anything really can be done towards the west middle school area um with that but right now again that letter came I I do fear um just from that letter and you all had the chance to see it that I think that the funding
is at least paused and I so I think all action and opportunity will probably be paused from that element. But at the same point, I still think getting some clear direction from the board. I've requested that um to to really know of of we do
have we've had conversations with Meyer. You know, they they were willing to be a a party to conversation. Um people are park in their lot and walk. um you know, we we can't use any of our dollars from
a a bond standpoint or whatever on the other side, the meer side of the road or anywhere not on our property. Um so, you know, it's just a question of a I one clarity to kind of give you is the a lot of parents have asked, you know, can we put a crosswalk? I know there was even
some today that the board got of putting a crosswalk across there. And again, you know, that would have to be a general fund expenditure if Meyer was even willing. If it's not a safe route to schools grant, I don't know what they're willing to do. We never did get him to put anything in writing. We just had verbal conversations. Scott was able to
get me in touch with one of their head lawyers to be able to have an initial conversation with that. Um, but I did also have the chance to talk to Jim Pavevel who was the superintendent at the time when design and everything was done and and he acknowledged that he knew and his decision, you know, was
clear that there was going to be some tight parking realities at Monasuri. There were pros and cons of the site on the on the uh east end of of uh Throbby Field that had its things and with the city and such with the road. Um there
were you know things at at the site where Monasuri was built, but he uh he acknowledged he knew that and made the decision to make that recommendation and move forward and and there was clear conversation that there would have to be some parking um at West Middle School for staff and parents even as well to
maybe walk their kids. It's why partially the Buffalo Trail was redone in that element. There's some lighting that was put up to be able to make sure even when it was darker in the morning or evening there was lighting and such put there. And so there there's that piece to this, but also want to acknowledge I think Tai's brought up
some good points about, you know, do we want to take a look at some of our polies in the future about walking and biking to school and looking at some of those opportunities and, you know, what what are we have in place and that's something that, you know, if the board wants to visit that I think uh that's something that we have some interest. I
don't think that the trun ones that we adopted probably go like for miles around a school, how far we transport, those kind of things. what things do we have in place for biking and walking and suggestions just making that clear to parents here's a great opportunity and encourage walking and biking to school
um so that's all kind of I do think we do strongly support that as a board is like I it's a lowcost alternative ties point it's like providing alternatives well we got to put the work into it and so that's something that you know probably through exec or even you know a subcommittee to take a look at you know what that looks like I know we we've
looked at that and think that's a good idea um but it's all kind of intertwined and just wanted input, thoughts you guys have um to you know see again you know is that something still even if a safe route to schools grants there or not of the crossing component to to consider is
it more encouraging you know based on the ideas and what Jim had told me about trying to more utilized a lot at uh West Middle School by the the football field area there that's right next to the Buffalo Trail to walk down. So, um, open that up to conversation with the board
really for some clear direction. I have a question. Does anybody of the faculty park up there at this point on a regular basis? Yes, some do. And about how many would you say? Maybe 5% 10%. I give you a number. I could tell you.
Cars, if I had to guess, there's probably 10. You say about that? I I always park there when I go. So, I park that and walk down next to the playground in that element and and there are a lot of parents as well that'll pick kids. Kids will go up the Buffalo Trail and meet their parents right there
and um and do that. So, but I would say there's probably 10 utilizing it at this point, you know, regularly, I had to guess from when I go there just from the staff, right? Not the parents. Correct. Yeah. Often I go midday and so, you know, it's not drop off or pick up, you know, from them.
Um, were you none? I had a couple of one one's just a clarifying question. We're not allowed to use capital bond funds on land we don't own, land we don't control. So like if you are you allowed to lease school buildings? I'm sorry.
Like for instance, if you leased a school like for instance Northwest Ed because they expend money specifically. I don't know. That would be a question. I don't think so from my conversation with Chris I marino at trun um but definitely for sure if we don't own it
but I don't think leasing that essentially you know you still don't own and you know that element so it's not permanent so I think it has to be something you put in a permanent unless the board then makes an action to sell that I think if we don't own it you can
spend funds on things that are in it that you can take with you like furniture fixtures and equipment but not anything that would stay with the building like sidewalks, right? Take it with you, but it's kind of rough. That that crosses off the list. Uh but
then so I think I will double check on that, but from everything I I think I' I've talked to that that's it, but I will get an opinion from Trune on that for sure for you. So I think I mean number one thing is with the Frank reconstruction coming up, we have to keep
discussions we can getting any of the elements that would the cost of anything. Um there is I think it's a little harder but when you have pick up area
that I mean I know as a parent I'll make my kid walk up a hill if it's going to if I'm not going to have to line up for 30 minutes maybe encouraging good behavior to walk up the hill. That's one option. Um and
then other than that I think then we have to come back to especially after we find out what we can do with the reconstruction from the Frank come back then we have to have a discussion we have to contribute if we're willing if we can
um general and I think not not only the discussion with the the road situation but with Meyer you know that that was it was originally talked about regarding a grant and but to circle back around and say okay would you allow us to put a
crosswalk in if if and I need some direction from the board if that's what you want to do. Like like I said, that's all I don't want to call kind of again on maybe and kind of and not really. You know, I think that there's some differences of opinion here that I that's why I'm looking for some clear direction. Well, you're the key issue here is
crossing Frankie Road, right? Yeah. So I mean to me there there are a few facts I think that are worth sharing um regarding parking because I don't I don't think we have a parking.
There are 102 regular spaces at the monastery parking lot. Um 33 are on the side of the prek through through toddler preschools and toddler. So, by regulation, those parents have to park
there and drop off. The regular parking lot for uh kindergarten and up that there are 69 regular spots there. And then there are six handicap spots between those two. Two on one side, four on the other. So,
we've got a total of 102 parking spots plus six handicap at M at Monasuri. Then you go up the hill to West Middle School athletic parking. there's an additional 75 spaces. I mean, we've got a ton of parking already. It's a matter of
changing human behavior or incentivizing human behavior, encouraging human behavior. And I I under I think so communication from the district to teachers, sta, all staff, parents, etc. is key. The other thing is there is a
there's you know parents can choose to park walk their kid in or they can drive you know the car line you know I hear mixed things from monastery parents about what is their custom what is their preference right some say well lower elementary they the parents want to walk
them in upper L they don't and there's middle school monatory kids they shouldn't be walked to the door in my opinion they're a little too old at that point but anyway I just think like consistent and clear communication from the district to staff and parents would go a long way towards incentivizing
parking up at West Middle School. You know, using the car line and dropping off instead of waiting for that parking spot because the what's happened is there's that busy, hurried, late running parent who's like, "Oh, shoot. I see
that carine's long and I see the parking lot's full now. I'm just going to park at Meyer and walk across the street." And to Scott Hardy's point a month ago, well, if we put in a crosswalk, are we going to be incentivizing and normalizing that behavior? And I hear
you. I I I see that point of view. But I think like our fail safe is we got to put in a crosswalk for safety purposes because no matter what the district does to encourage the right behavior, there will be those people who no matter what will choose choose to
park across Frankie Road. And I think that's what you have advocated for. I look at safe routes to school as dead in the water. I mean, between the executive order that came out in January, the latest appropriations bill, I mean, the money for the bipartisan infrastructure
law is rescended. If it hasn't been allocated, it's gone. And I I mean, maybe there will be a conference report that resolves that at the federal level, but let's not count on that. So, if what you're looking for is $110,000 for a crosswalk, I say we engage our community
partners and and do that piece. and and you know um I I did want to remind uh it did remind me I did ask Tren for a legal opinion on liability from there and they and they felt if the you know the road commission is going to have to agree to whatever you do signage all those kind
of things all that so if that's something the board wanted to do that would be the first step is having to get with them and get approval again would have to agree on their side all those kind of things if he wanted to do that but um they felt like if you had all those things in place and signed off
that you would not have any extended liability than normal. I did ask for a written um answer on that. I have not received it. I know he's been swamped, but he did promise me he'd get it to me as soon as he can. I called him again three days ago and was told that, but that was initial response he gave me to
that question because I know the board had asked that. Thank you. Yeah. And just to clarify, I'm a long ways from considering Frankie Road and any crossing there safely to school. I mean, it may be for parents. It may be for people who of their own valition
decide to use it, but I don't know what I'd have to see there for me to endorse kids crossing Frankie Road at this point. And endorsing it is a safe route to school, which I'm I think we should I share that with you, too. I don't think we'd ever
use those words unless it was the name of the grant. And if the name of the grant's going away, then we can change this to something else. crosswalk crosswalk and and I think again you know kind of that point our existing liability from that
standpoint is also not you know again from a legal opinion you know but I don't want a kid getting hit there I understand I don't want to endorse the thought that maybe they it's safe because it's well but if we don't install crosswalk and
they choose to walk it we can't say we've done everything we could to make it Well, it's a it's a split. I guess that you're encouraging. I mean, you could you could verbalize I mean, we've talked a little bit about that about even a letter to parents, you
know, the acknowledge, you know, that that we don't recommend it. That is possibility, too. So, just giving you both sides of this. So, and the staff have agreed to park up at West Middle School. Well, I I I don't I wouldn't say that's true. I think that that's something that we're going to have to enforce that the
board gives that clear direction. I I, you know, when I came into the job, I came kind of, you know, late stream into all the decisions on Monasuri, but that's why I did go see Jim Pavvel to kind of get a straight kind of thought and he had said that he told me, you know, he he made the decision and the
plans were that they would have to park up there. So, I do think, you know, if that's the direction here of the board, you know, with all this, again, I agree with Josie on very upfront, clear communication and probably right away I'm going to have to go over the building, you know, be with Tracy, you
talk about what communication we give to parents, what do we give to staff, all that element on where all this is, but collectively, I just want to know, you know, from the board of is there plans of a different route future or that or, you know, not one that we don't plan on
putting any kind of crossing and that this is the process. That's what this conversation is about to give direction. And then also about with that, what are alternatives to think about of biking and walking and our policies for that to Tai's point that I think we need to
visit. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm I'm a little frustrated. I mean, this is the third time and I feel like we're going around in circles. Um, so I guess I and there's really nothing in the packet for me to look at or consider. So I I guess I'd like you to recommend what your re what your administration's recommending. You know, I think this is a symptom of a a
systematic problem, including where we build schools and how we plan for schools and how we talk about kids and staff arriving and leaving our schools. So, I I want to fix the problem. Um I want to keep our kids and families and staff safe. Um but in in inductions with that, I'd like to look at the systems
that got us to this place in the beginning. Um because I think there's lessons learned, including for central grade school. Um, so I guess I would like to table this and ask you to bring something back that you would recommend, administration would recommend and then we can chew on something. I think at this point, you know, I
struggle with using general funds for those kind of things and that and I think that we've gotten some clear, you know, conversations. I have had with Chandra with the TCA of of support from that would not, you know. So, I think at this point, at least for now, the clear direction and thoughts of talking about
parking up at West Middle School, making sure we're maintaining that trail, salting it in the wintertime, doing all those things. I think going back to our policies and looking what's there and are there ways. I think working with the road commission to talk about a sidewalk all the way along Silver Road posy
road to all the way from Silver Lake to almost to um to our bus lane that goes up to the Buffalo Trail. I think advocating with some of our I know we have a county commissioner that's interested in this conversation that's emailed the board. I think that's all a piece of what we do first. See where
that takes us and then go from there. That would be my opinion right now. copyright looking especially when you're looking to grow your student population in that school. Address it now. Point. Do you mind if I No, please. Um I did also at the very early stages
of Monasuri, we did ask for enhancements and improvements to the actual crosswalk that exist on uh Silver Lake Road, which is not very visible. Um I think they noted those for when they actually do construction. Um there's not a yellow sign that indicates it's a crossro
crosswalk. There's no pushed out curbs to provide that really known somebody's standing there. There's not even lines anymore. Um, so the existing crossroad I think needs some enhancements. So I would definitely encourage those when they do Frankie Road. But also Josie,
you hit the nail on the head. It's human behavior. It doesn't matter if we have 500 parking spots. If it's not right in front of the door at the time that they want it, they may or may not use it. I I believe there's empty spots there when we do dismissal and arrival. They refuse
to use it and and I don't know how much more you can plan for human behavior as it changes. I mean, we we are now using uh West Middle School for their car line, all of the front, which is pretty well stacked. Now, we're using the bus
pickup as well, and we still have people letting kids cross in front of traffic to get to the school. We don't encourage that. We clearly have identified what's to be done. I don't know how much more you can do on the human behavior side. I
mean, we have people out there monitoring that are getting flipped off and swore at. I just want to make sure the re there is no school that has an excellent carline or parking situation. Doesn't matter how much or where you put it. It has at least improved at West Middle
School last year. Kristen Studman did a really good job this last year. And I'll just make I don't think we really want perfect car line and parking at every school. I mean that I hope that's not the goal of of the district. You know, there's many other ways for kids and families to get this. Absolutely.
100%. Um and I think that the human behavior and remember the district did this back in 2021 when I was help leading these efforts with the city that there are evidence-based best practice ways to change behavior to talk about how we message park and stroll locations.
Right. I am also not comfortable making a park and stroll location from Meer parking lot unless there's like a sheriff there, right? And a hawk signal. And so so I think at this point, you know, what I I think from the board standpoint is
we will begin to look at policies and that element and bringing that, you know, to the board as far as some of those. And Ty, I'm interested in your help and kind of some of your thoughts on that and fleshing that out for me of what that looks like. and then as well as your experience with some of the biking and and walking and some of the
stuff you did with the city. That's something I really don't have an expertise on our team from that I think you can help us a lot with. And then I'd also invite a couple of board members to meet with me with the road commission and others as Frankie wrote and that's being done to try and set some meetings up to further talk about improvements as
that roads being done in crossings and some of those things of what's right for bikes and walkers to be able to do. So, you know, that's something that I I don't have an expertise in that I could really use some help. And I think third point would be a good communication when school begins with.
Yeah. And and and and Dan and you know, we'll work with Tracy, you know, in that on a lot of that and and get in front of that here over the next month. And again, with some input and the policies and things, we'll we'll begin to take a look at those right away here. Maybe even begin to start that work here in August.
Staff meeting if one of you can represent that meeting. Y and put in the the you know weekly newsletter. Um just a point of clarification, can bond funds be used for a crosswalk? No, because it's not our property. It's not our property.
Okay. Okay. Road's not the size of the tires. We had gotten a you had gotten a cost estimate, right, of 105,000 110,000, right? So that would come out of our general fund. One thing I I did learn is
that if we were to install one and then the road commission came and repave Frankie Road, they would have to re reinstall that crosswalk. So you our work would not be done in vain. And I'm personally worried that they're going to delay repaving Frankie Road because it's
been that's that can's been kicked down the road a few times. So yes, you know, I mean to me that's $1510,000 is not a lot to spend on a safety issue like this, but the you know, in conjunction with the communications, but I will wait for your official uh
recommendation on that front. I I'm making it now on that. Yeah. On this on the cross. Yeah, I think that we need to do the first parts in that element and you know um until we get there and and you know, I'll continue. I think I think we next let's have the conversation with road
commission all those folks and see what they're if they really feel that strong about it I think we can bring that back to the board but until like that they feel like that was the part that trun was really really heavy on like you need the road commission to say this is the right thing to do
before you do it from that you know from that element that's where your coverage is from if you did it from a liability standpoint and that's part of the process with building you have to get They're they have to sign off on it. Yeah. And that was was that in our board
packet a month or two ago though? 105 or 110,000 cross. Um I don't think it was it was just a verbal update. Okay. Yep. So I mean on the human behavior sidef I'll take care of that. Yeah. The pigeon and the marine. I
think, you know, I think that if you were to put across, I just think there's a lot of conversation, a lot of people buy in that has to happen. And I think that the road commission is the first one. And if they really feel that's the right thing to do, I would bring that back to the board. But I, you know, and
and I would actually request I have a couple board members with me to meet with the road commission to have that conversation. Endorsing that. Well, I think we're let I think you should do that. Feel free to pick two less important ones to appoint people. I would say
any volunteers really want to be a part of that. I'm happy to be Joelie. I'm happy to. You good? Yep. Okay. I'll set that up here sometime. Try to get in probably August be able to do that. So, sounds good.
Um All right. Um moving on to board policy. Uh well, let's start with uh actually I'm just going to defer to Dr. Bwagn and I will pass it right over to Connie Taylor probably. All right. We had brought a few of them to board exec and um it had been asked
to put them on for discussion and I think one was also added for discussion tonight. Um one of them was uh around reimbursement for meals. Um in terms of right now currently is relates to board members there's a limitation of meals of
$90 per day um for attendance at conferences. Um and so the conversation was is that sufficient based on the different venues that we may have not only in the state of Michigan but also if people were to go to national conferences. During our conversation um in board exec committee, we did share
with what we currently have under administrative guidelines and via memo that's sent out to staff. Currently any of the staff members who go to a conference in the state of Michigan were limited to $38 per day. I'm sorry, $39 per day. And then if it's out of state,
particular states that are a little bit more expensive like your Chicago, Illinois, some Florida, California, New York, that amount goes to $78 per day. Um and President Newman Bale had asked me to also look at the state guidelines for what the state provides for state
employees. So this is obviously a conversation for the board to have as to whether or not you want to modify board policy to adjust those amounts. But I just wanted to give you the information of what is applicable to state employees, TCAPS employees and the board for your reference and discussion.
And I did I I do believe that there will be decent upward progression of these numbers based off of some inquiries that I did made. Not a not a doubling or anything but like a pretty double digit
increase on these numbers in this next based on the state number based on the state because it's adjusted for particular things. So likely this is going to be a little higher come October one. Um yeah, these are for the this current fiscal year, which obviously for the
state changes on October one, but right now if you look at certain select cities in Michigan, it's approximately $42 a day roughly, give or take a dollar for for food, whereas ours is currently
$39 for select well for all of Michigan. So we're pretty much in line with that of Michigan. the state goes a little bit further in terms of outofstate cities they outline very specifically in what cities in those particular states there's a higher amount allocated um so
would like for example our current is all of Florida whereas if you look at the states it identifies certain cities in Florida so we don't go that deep into the details with our policy and then of course the boards is just $90 per day
regardless if you're in state or out of I'm happy to to open this up because the the issue is not the staff reimbursement rates but the board reimbursement and travel expenses um policy number 2305. This came up because in May, Trusty
Schmidt and I went to the MESB Spring Institute in M on Matima Island. And by the time we I made my early reg registration um and booked lodging, the conference
rate was already gone. And so the housing allowance was not sufficient um for what we could get. And this was Mino Island. So it's it was before peak season. I mean it goes up 50% in peak.
And then for meals I mean I only had one dinner that was not covered by me. I had an appetizer, a salad and a lemonade and it was almost at our limit for meals for a daily rate of $90. That's how
expensive that location was. So, you know, I asked for us to review this because I was thinking, you know, we don't have any flexibility. It's these are just flat rates in our policy. You know, we all know that if you go to
a major city or even a place like Mino Island, um that the costs can be significantly higher. So, I mean, you know, there are various options we could look at. One thing I thought was, do we want to add a provision for asking the
full board for an exception for the the BOE president like we do, you know, with certain other policies? Well, in in certain policies, we ask the the the superintendent.
The odd thing is we have we have policies where an exception can be granted by the superintendent or his her design. But in this case, because it's the board, we can't ask the superintendent. He's our employee, right? But so we have to ask each other
or the board president that. So those were some options I thought of and I really appreciate you guys did look at the the uh state reimbursement rates. I can tell you they are significantly lower than the federal. I'm used to federal reimbursement rates. So, um, and my my my idea there wasn't to
necessarily lower it, but my um it was to take the fact that we've had this discussion multiple times like over the years and our admin has to develop the policy and change it and talk about it continuously that if we could just match
up with now I don't know I didn't know the federal one so maybe that's an option too. So like um but I think it would be appropriate to match our federal or to a policy that we don't have to manage that is published like the mileage rate is just updated um
and so that would be that's what I was trying to do um in this request. Mhm. Um I also feel like it's we don't have a lot of uh staff traveling for thing and that probably should be the same for staff as it should be for the board, but that's a separate discussion. But either
way, I think it should be take take away the work from us and put it onto someone else that's already doing it. So what are we are we making a recommendation of something? No, this is purely for board discussion. I think I think I think Josie was okay with the amount.
She wanted an exception process. Um, I'm okay with the amount. I But I'm also open to whatever the board I thought this would help. It made the things a little bit more confusing. I don't necessarily know if it's a problem more confusing, but yeah. I mean, it seems it seems generous
on its face. 250 for housing per day and $90 for meals. I'm just telling you that was my experience, you know, just two months ago in our own state. Um, and I hate for board members who are all doing this work proono to dip into their own
pockets to supplement their travel or staff for that matter, but anyway, you know, this is the board policy I was looking at. But then maybe what we need to do is tell MASB they should not pick the most expensive place
in the state to hold a meeting because I think that was probably not a wise decision uh when you're facing cutbacks from federal and state
funding. Yeah, it's probably not the easiest place for no a is one of the most expensive, if not the most expensive place to go. Right. Right. So, I do think and I and I'm sure it's not going to come around. So, I'm okay
with whatever the board decides. If anything, I would just like to tie it to something so we don't have to we just say it's done by this and every year it comes out. We follow it. But we can leave it the same. I'm okay with whatever. If we have a trip coming up, I mean, usually we we have our travel planned in
advance, would folks feel comfortable with a provision for an exception to be granted in advance by the full board or the board? I would just put it by the I would literally put it by the finance and it doesn't have to be it's fair.
No, but it's not I actually say that but doesn't want to make that call. No, I don't want to make that but then it's got to go to the full board then. It does. No, if the policy says the finance committee just Yeah, you could do that. Move it to consent. It doesn't even have to go to consent. It doesn't have to go to the board. Like you could put anything that the finance committee can
Well, then grant us approval, approve or disapprove. And yeah, on an exception basis. To give you a kind of example of this. So, um, intermediate school districts by law, their board members have to bring to the full board any trip that they take and it has to be approved by the full board, including the superintendent
of an ISD. there was a a a massive um uh fraud that was conducted in Oakland schools probably about 20 years ago and because of that they put that in place. Um so there is a there is a process for that which you could delegate essentially to the finance committee to
do that same thing from that standpoint after the after the travel's been completed or in advance before that's that's state law for ISTDs. So I could add, you know, and bring back next month for a revised policy, something to the effect, and I both word
Smith it better, but any exceptions to the amounts, you know, noted here may be approved in advance of the travel by the finance committee. Perfect. All right. I will make that revision. There's nothing you need to do tonight. I will make that revision, bring it back for you to review. We're going to have
some additional policy revisions, and if it gets through committee and that's what everybody's looking at, we can just put it on consent for next time. Thank you. Okay, the next one, it is new but not new. Um the social media policy for all of you. Um while it's new under TR, Trun
did not have a policy that reflected this information. So it was at the request of the communications department previous under Niola for more than 10 years the they were using this policy which we just copied over verbatim um to the ter policy given a new number to
align with where the social media is. Um, and it essentially gives the board some um, discretion or the communications department, the ID to to monitor comments that are considered to be inappropriate, not protected otherwise by first amendment free speech rights. And so we brought that over.
There was some question, you know, to bring it up for discussion. I will tell you if you look at the policy as we presented it when I talked to communications really what they're saying is you know what if people are a little you know concerned about some of these other pieces down here and I think prison Bale was asking the question
about you know do we really attempt to go in and and if there's misinformation correct it are we really doing that I think there's the ability to do that it's just I don't know that we are the biggest concern is for them to be able to go in and remove posts um that are
inapprop appropriate. A lot of times people using curse words, making negative comments about student pictures that are, you know, inappropriate, derogatory, they they'd like to go in to be able to remove those. So the big ask is on this policy, is everything up to E? But just keeping in mind that
everything below E we had for 10 years, but it's up to the board if we're in the place where we're revising or adopting the new TR policy to do whatever is the board's preference. And I can't remember there was a specific question was it one board member had a
separate question about some first amendment answer just my question because there are no citations to statutory or regulatory requirements I asked whether this is an optional policy because there aren't legal requirements and she said it is actually it's optional discretionary
the question no legal requirement for us to have it um but they have utilized this policy in the past as a basis and to be clear really now our communications falls under our curriculum instruction department. Correct. So, if if there's any reference specifically, you know, you might want
to just say, you know, communications or something like that in that department. Yeah. Just Yeah. Jesse was the one that actually brought the policy to me and that Megan said, "Hey, we don't have this under TR and we really could use this." And then, you know, specifically, I think her notes are this is what we really need.
Okay. Well, to that point, um, my concern with this policy is that it is under the section called employee conduct and ethics. So, to me, this should be a public-f facing policy rather than being directed
at employees. It when I first read it, it just I didn't know what, you know, the intent is. It It seems unnecessary and and potentially punitive to employees. It's like it's targeting employees use of social media, but
really I think what we're getting at is TCAPS wants to be able to monitor comments on its social media and you know TCAPS rem retains the right to remove them to respond to them etc. I would just advocate that we take this
out of section 4200 employee conduct and ethics. Take out the first two paragraphs which are directed at TCAPS employees and just start the whole policy with you know comments are reviewed according to our comment policy and everything from there down which I'm
fine with. We we absolutely do that. It was only aligned with 4217 because that's the only other policy that references social media and it's you know it's a policy regarding employee use of social media and then this was a tag on to talk about but we can certainly move it to renumber it and take it out. I'm not sure that
the first if you take out the employee conduct and ethics the first two bars are still applicable but it's totally up to the board. So why why don't at this point we just send it back to you to revisit make a recommendation where it could go. I can do that. I'll bring a vote back to the exact committee
because I still don't like hate speech. Well, that's constitutional and I would get to change that. But if the whole policy is not required, whether it's constitutional or not, it doesn't have to be there. So, I'd explained in board exec like one of the terminologies that you use under
the first amendment of speech is not protected. The courts have said hate speech is not protected. And I know that um I remember pack had concerns about that interpretation, but everything is subject to interpretation. Obscenity is a subject of to interpretation. What does that look like? I mean, back in the
day, back in the day though, I remember you couldn't even say that somebody was pregnant on television. And now if you watch, you know, even network television, it's substantially different because that that's changed over time. And so and hate speech has changed over time, you know, in terms of what people
constitute and don't. And so we know it when we see it, but that's just one of it's a common phraseiology that they use to to indicate what is not protected speech. Just for the sake of efficiency, I think that's all okay. If you have any questions, I can go to Connie and go back. I'll bring it back to you.
Connie, I just want to ask two things. the the towards the bottom the copyrighted and other proprietary material would that would like posting an article when somebody says like hey look at this New York Times article is that considered copyrighted material
copyright I am not a copyright lawyer by any stretch of the imagination but I mean there are certain things if they're public facing that you can put out there are things you can use in brevity if it's somebody that's tagging it on to one of ours and we know that it's a
copyrighted material we would try to remove it, but there's so many different with social media as long as the employee conduct is taken out of this. I mean, it's okay to keep that. I just didn't want this to be held against the staff member is like, "Oh, look at this great article and it's copyrighted and it's held against them,
you know." Yeah. And the other thing I don't like is the irrevocable permission to copy. Again, I think at this point I think this point the board saying just take it back members. I'll I'll work with with Jesse and her department. What do we feel like we need
that we utilize that would not be misleading for for folks. I hate to have stuff in here that we don't enforce as well because then people have the expectation that we are enforcing. And that was to my point of the wildlife which is fine. You you pointed out the clarification and I agree. and our folks have said if we could just
stop it at that this is the stuff that we need to remove that we are currently removing when we see it. I'll bring that back as a recommendation and the board can make any modifications. Thank you. All right. And then you wanted to pull Bullard Placky um by 307 homeless streets.
Oh yeah, the homeless one is Let me get to the thing. So much has gone on. um is in my I think your point I believe your point was a question on uh transportation.
The the the point is twofold. One is that it sounds like in the case of a homeless child wants to go to school, they will be enrolled immediately and then we go look to see what the
evidence is of their immunizations. That is the only student that we do that for. Well, so in the context of this, right, we we do allow students to enroll without immunization records, but they
have a certain time period to get it, but it cannot. So, what Buller is saying is that we are going to remove barriers. They're saying kids who don't have they're defined as homeless as defined by this policy, they just need to be in school and we're going to figure out the rest of it later on. They we may ne never get immunization records
from them. We may never get a birth certificate. We may never, but it can't be the reason that we deny them enrollment. Now, when we're working with other parents, when we're trying to get immunization records from other schools, so on and so forth, the parents can they can we can enroll them, but the parents have a certain period of time in which
to provide them to us or to get an exception, religious exemption, medical exemption, and then additional rules per per your board policy apply. But really what it's saying here is that if there's a question about residency, other non-homeless students, we can deny
them enrollment until we get that worked out. For homeless students, if there's a question about residency, we got to enroll them and then we will go through the process on determining whether or not residency is applicable or whether or not they still have rights to to constitute us as their district. I just
think you'd feel really bad if you ended up with measles epidemic going through your school or uh MS epidemic going through your school, especially if it's high school law because I don't disagree with you. Wer is one of those laws that that's you know
that's all statutory. So has no discretion. I think that that is actually not looking out for your overall population. We can take it up the fence. I should I should is as Dr. Ben Wagner indicated Boulder Palaki is one of those
things that's um potentially on the chopping block. Oh, not bad. And then the other problem that I had with that and I told you that one and that is that if you have a student who want school of choice
and the school of choice is one that we say you actually are pretty much maximum on enrollment to staff ratios. So, we're not accepting other students coming in except, you know, if they live in that
area. It means that if somebody has a sibling at school of choice and going to that school and they have a younger one, that kid could be denied, but the homeless kid would not be denied. It seems to me that it should be subject to
the same consideration. Well, ultimately, I mean, the way it if it they're not just picking our school. Oftentimes, what they're saying is that this was my school of residence and I've now been displaced and I no longer live there. And they still have right to
their origin school. But and it says that in one place it talks to the school of origin. But in section, I think it's J or something, it does not. So what is practice that what first that that is practice that if a kid
originally lived in that area and was you know homeless they have the right to do that and we have to provide transportation from wherever they are to that I don't ever been I've never seen it the reverse me neither always
which is the intent the intent is like we've had that a couple times even in district we had some homeless kids that you know were in the pines living and they were able get into the Goodwill Inn. And so they were, but they started at Willow Hill. We're transporting them
from the Goodwill in to Willow Hill to keep them in their good school environment to keep consistently with that child. But that is school of origin, not a school of choice. But if they've choice in and then they and they have it, they have rights to that school.
Yes. Once we take them, they're ours in school of choice. And then they subsequently become homeless, it's still their school of origin. But it's it's I guess I'm saying school of origin. I understand school of choice to me is more a selection.
So we're not taking these kids back into whatever school they want to come back. They have to prove that it's their school of origin. We may be debating with them whether or not it's their school of origin, but what this is saying is we have to enroll them and then we go through this resolution process and if it wasn't their school of origin, then they're not entitled to
stay there. Okay. Yeah. It's that J and I was thinking why don't we just say school of origin as opposed to school of choice. There might be something there. Let us look at that. I mean with school of choice rules and we have an interlocal agreement. So there there's some 105
105C things there. Like we were just debating like if a kid you know like if they are declaring their homeless area to be within that zone you know by school of choicing then I think we do. Now if they came in and said I live over here but I want to go to school here.
I'm homeless. I don't think so, but let us get some clarification on that for sure. I think it's right as it's written, but let us double check. Okay. So, we're good to just delay that or push that one to the next meeting as well and get that clarification. I think we're right, but if not, we'll fix it.
Okay. So, uh we don't have any motions or anything to cover because we've pushed everything down the road till next. So, we talk about it. You said everything. Good. Oh, yeah. You're good. It's fine. Um moving through to item F. a student parent handbook.
Oh, that one is just I wanted to make the point if the handbook is so long that even staff don't take time to read it, maybe the handbook is too long and maybe there could be some way we could
shorten it somewhat, even refer people to certain areas for further information online, but shorten it so maybe more of it gets read. Every year we have a every year we have a team that looks at that elementary and secondary. We'll bring it up and see if
they can come up with any briefness. I think if you give everyone a one pager, they're not going to read it. So that's what we do at secondary. Let's go back to the behavior question. Secondaries get a one pager that we go through with all the classrooms. So we don't go we cover the handbook. Every classroom and secondary covers the
handbook with the kids and it's a one pager and we highlight obviously the areas that that we see on a regular basis that may be an issue. Yeah, that makes you really need to me, you know, otherwise it's just overwhelming and we just shut it down
and close it off. That the board will uh adopt the 20 25 26 elementary and secondary student and parent handbooks. Second. All right. Any other discussion? Uh, can I please roll back?
Trusty Schmidt, yes. Trusty Ballinger, yes. Um, Trusty Cardi, Iusty Lmore, yes. Trustee Peek, yes. President, yes. Motion carries.
Uh, moving on to the second public comment. Um, no, uh, public comment. Um, what's that? Thank you for hanging in there. And I would like forward present closing marks. We have been here long enough and uh I don't have any. I want to thank
everyone for some difficult topics and more discussion in the future. Uh the next board of education meeting is a study session on Monday, August 11th at 5:00 p.m. It is uh in this uh building. Um with that, do I have a motion to adjurnn the meeting?
I move that we adjourn the meeting. All right. Second. Second. Erica second. All those in favor say I. I. All those say nay. Meeting adjourned. Official