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liberty and justice okay we the review approval portion of the agenda is there any motion to approve I move to approve the agenda as presented I all those in favor say I I all those
post say nay motion carries um moving on to public comment uh any public comment we do um Bill Weisner okay and before Bill starts I'll give you a second bill just to set your clock because the board has set aside this time for public comment individuals addressing the board should have one opportunity to speak and
shall be limited to 3 minutes individual should not make personal attacks unrelated to actions affecting the school system and we strongly encourage common courtesy constructive feedback with detailed rules and procedures including a complaint process in board policy 2504
[Music] morality goes into the issue on lgbtq it shows a lot on here this was written by people above me and they go into the history of the movement Alfred
Kinsey all that the health risks and so keep this in mind this is important the kids in the school all the children should have access to this information like this
um the handout I was going to give it to you but I'll just go to tattle if you want to read this and it's from um Michelle Howard the librarian there okay the head librarian and if you look
in March's newsletter way at the bottom uh it goes and it says um she talks about two topics the first one is the low reading scores across Michigan so she's encouraging reading books and then she says and the second reason that we're celebrating reading is
basically she got three paragraphs saying of the people still continually W wanting to ban books and prevent these kids from getting the information and it's over and over in
there it's like we don't ban books but just like teaps TC West High School 500 books promoting homosexual Behavior that's what it is it's positive towards LGBT not one book on the other side so I
haven't heard anybody address that yet I don't know if the books have changed it'd be good to this is publicly known it's on my website TC family.org I just looked them up anybody can look up those books what do we doing on the other side
Michelle says we can't keep information away because the kids have a right to it and if you don't want to read it just don't look ask a librarian to show you where the books are that interest you well the books that interest me are the ones that aren't being shown there on
LGBT and the history of it and the false foundation and the risks and the transgender issue where if you just leave the kids alone 85 to 95% of them will come out of that feeling but uh but
they're encouraged in it a couple other things when you select a board member hopefully we get somebody like that that's open into looking at that and not only looking at it but making it right if there's 500 books promoting homosexuality there should be 500
showing the compassionate view on the other side so um please select someone that's got that viewpoint open mind to show both sides and our side is not being shown thank you thank you oh is there any other
public the end that um so that is the end of the public comment request uh do we have a motion to approve the consent calendar as presented I moved up the Board of Education approve the consent calendar
is presented and without discussion second second all right all those in favor say I I all all those poos say nay motion carries moving on to discussion firstly thanks everyone for making it today I know this is a a
difficult time and uh to have a 100% participation is is fantastic um there is no right or wrong way to do this and and the board didn't really prescribe a way to do it at the previous uh meeting so I do have some notes I did there was
a reach out to MB who did have a process for the the final candidates and it is a little applicable to here but really the general gist was identifying what you're looking for in a board member measuring that person against that and and and if
you can agree that then great and regardless you can have a voting method so I didn't know how the board wanted and I'm open open to take any dialogue um and I can kick it off I mean I know what I'm I think we will probably have differences but what we're looking for
in board members I'm happy to go through that if we want to start that way and see if we line up on a sh and if so then we can then measure the candidates against that so does anyone want I'm happy to go first so if anyone wants to go first why do you go
first I said I feel like a I mean for me for me there's a couple of things obviously number one is we want I want someone who's going to add to the board who's going to work with uh all all board members um to debate and be open-minded uh to come without any
preconceived notions of of of change or what you know just be open Financial background I think yeah I know that we've all got plenty of financial experiences but we with Andrew leaving and Matt previously before that we' I
think we've lost a lot of financial uh background which is is kind of a critical board function so for me finan background is is right up there and then I do want to be wary of the balance of the board um it's a
definitely the lower of the third but making sure that we have um All Views and and kind of different views that doesn't matter what they are I like to have different views so uh having people who are different to our existing board members is always
beneficial so that's my criteria I'm happy to go next yeah yeah so we had some overlap but some differences uh my my four priorities when I was looking through all of the letters of Interest the resumés and the
responses to the Q&A was um one a connection to Elementary School parent a parent or a grandparent or even perhaps a relative of a of a teacher but but particularly a parent or grandparent of
elementary school students um none of us remaining had a an elementary school age child in the system and I do think that perspective is is really helpful and that is one thing we lost in Andrew Raymond secondly the financial background which you mentioned um
particularly K through 12 budgets that's extremely helpful anybody who has background in in Michigan schools uh you know budgeting that's helpful but you know there are some applicants who have significant business backgrounds um or
degrees in Finance economics Etc third was is former board experience doesn't have to be tab's Board of Education uh it could be a commission it could be an Advisory board but that was a third area that was relevant to me because of the governance responsibility
that we have the consensus building the problem solving um the the constructive you know leadership that we need and fourth this was probably really hard to get out of the paperwork so I'd be looking more for the interviews on this part but I would say independence and
moral courage to challenge the status quo and advocate for continuous Improvement for students success um so working collaboratively but also you know fighting for our kids that's that's a key thing for me
okay and I just I mean I really think you guys kind of covered the the items that were my priorities uh as well I was um thoroughly impressed with all of oh my gosh all the interest in this position and um feel very fortunate that
we had so many super qualified people uh come out uh to apply for the position but but again um you know my um a lot of my goals are the same uh uh pick a candidate that has the ability to work
with all the board members um obviously Financial background is key um losing Andrew um you know and this is my first uh time serving on the finance committee so um uh so to have somebody that has that experience I think is very
important um and uh the connection to the elementary school that was actually not one of my priorities but through even reading um it was interesting um through reading a lot of the um candidates there's a lot of Eastern Elementary School connections which I
thought was very interesting but uh that was definitely something that I thought um you know you and I both have high school kids or actually all three of us have high school kids Beth you know doesn't have any kids but brings you know and and Tai too has kids um Scott do I me five of us
have a few years ago yeah so um yeah Scott will be bringing up true true not even Junior kindergarten so um so I always did appreciate Andre's perspective on that Elementary uh
Viewpoint um so th those were all part of um my priorities as well so okay and I and I do feel that way I Echo what all of you said I feel like integrity and Community Connection um is really important um there's a number of really
beautiful wonderful candidates here and you know many of whom have Financial experience um it's really important to me that people be able to to navigate some of the important issues that come up with integrity and I'm open to that too like I love having different
viewpoints I wouldn't necessarily for example um exclude somebody for being something different than me and I don't think we should I think it should be um something varied and I also feel that um I like
the idea of having a parent here because we like you said we don't have many of those left we're all starting to age out of that um the other the other part is um I like seeing the teaps um involvement with some of these candidates I think there's been a lot of
those and I think that's fantastic so okay you you're welcome to you don't have to yeah I mean I maybe I'm jumping the gun but I think it's is it okay for us to not agree on what we're looking for absolutely and will we each have an individual vote yeah so I mean this is
so again my process was if we come down to the uh if we agree generally what it is I think that's what I would use to measure the candidates against you could at the end of it l how we decide we're going to probably end up with a vote I can tell you my proposal which is based off of
mb's thing is to have people have multiple votes either top two top three and a point three points for the first two points for second one point for third or two points for first one second that's chances of ties um exactly and then it's uh you know I think personally I'm guessing that we're probably going
to come down to just the top two um and everyone can write down I tally the vote have someone else tally the vote to double check my math and then whatever that is and then we take the top X number and I would probably suggest three um two three or four would be the
max I would say two would be the minimum and then we uh I would suggest three um but again open to suggestions so do you want to add anything to the comments of what you again you can say you can add stuff it's
fine well I I'll just say my piece like you know we have H seven now eight who have submitted the Q&A um and I'm just one person but I I would like to hear from all eight of them in a in a statement on on the 10th
um that may not be agreed but I I I think they should all have the opportunity to speak um their statement their resume that the Q&A to me would be enough to make a decision so I don't think there should be an interview back and forth as well but that's just that's
just me and I know 8 times 3 minutes is 24 minutes of statements and get that we're going to have a long meeting but um they'll actually get up to five minutes each so it'll be 40 and the five minutes comes from their statements their opening statements are that's how he originally laid out that was one of
the things that the board did lay out originally oh they in the exact committee no I think we actually did that in the board meeting didn't we yeah or in the announcement in the announcement it was kind of like discussed in in the board but not I I see so they'll have five minute statements and and right and then we
have Q&A that was partially based off of previous what we had done but the Q&A the interviewing it was also in what was communicated to the candidates yeah I mean we said that the board could ask questions I mean but we didn't say that the board would ask specific questions or and you know obviously we could agree
not to it was more of a clarifying question it wasn't meant to be new questions it was more like I don't understand I'm open to more than less then I mean I'd prefer all seven or at least the folks that submitted their q&as on time again I'm not clearly sure
what we said was on on time the deadline but um that's just that's my opinion yep and I think my only logic and I don't necessarily disagree originally we talked about this as a board and I was like there's a we weren't sure what the number was and my
number in the head was around eight um probably would have if we had had a few people dropped out hadn't applied in the first place we probably would have wouldn't have even had this meeting and we just done it um so that is an option I just also since we are here if we are
going to narrow it down we can save their time as well as ours I'm less worried about our time than I am bringing someone in and putting them through the public uh spectacle of of that if if they're not likely to get selected and I'm I don't want to also bias anything
so I'm okay with whatever the board decides again I'm I'm okay hearing from all the candidates I mean like I like I said I I was very impressed with all of them and honestly um really tough decision to be honest I mean I really felt like each
one of them add could add something different to the board so um so sure if if the rest of you what do I mean what do you guys think do you I would love a little more time to review it because I mean we did just get the last one in the last half hour last hour um I would love
a little more time to flesh it out a little more and and you know be able to ask pointed questions when the time comes and just so the I mean obviously it was we had a problem in the fact that we were planning to have a meeting leater today but then we couldn't because of all the other teaps
commitments so right hence why we originally had a deadline that was uh unrealistic for our expectations so that's yeah again apologies we didn't I just want to make sure that that last I mean we the last candidate that we that there wasn't a mixup or a we emailed
them and ask them ear Friday that if they could have them in preferably by 3:00 on Sunday yesterday okay yeah okay that was the communication we had one that was sick couldn't that was communicated and then
they have since turned it in okay I think there's still a couple two minutes again I'm okay with this is a board process so that would that would make this meeting very easy um so it's up to everyone else or
said well then I guess the question would be can everybody make the uh March 10th meeting of the candidates correct that would also be you I mean we would assume now obviously if they can't then
they can't and whether we progress or not I guess is irrelevant but um so I don't know if I'm sure there'll be one or two who cannot make it so just just a clarify are we trying to debate uh having all candidates present here today
no not today cuz we only I mean we do have a couple in the audience um it would be all eight would progress to the March 10th meeting is what Ty was suggesting we wouldn't we wouldn't limit it at all okay okay
n person turns in your paper their question yeah I mean suggest by full technically they don't even have to turn them in theoretically yeah I mean they've they've submitted the application we asked them to correct just this came because I you know as nmc
did a similar process and and I applied for it and we all got a chance to speak and we all did the Q&A and we sent a resume and they voted right then and there um and I thought it was a nice process so that's the only reason and I don't think seven or eight is that big of a number um and I do respect them for
putting their it takes a lot of um courage to throw your hat in the ring and and come do it and I I would love to personally to hear them speak I think being able to speak clearly and concisely is an important skill and um I think that's we are them yeah I mean going into exact may I if I was hoping
it was going to be seven under sevenish or less and then we would we wouldn't have scheduled this meeting and then obviously it was more and then a couple dropped out um originally 11 down so like it was going up too so I I was like all right well that that's
kind of above the number that we could do in one if the board wants to do that then that's how we can do it if we want to narrow it down to at all we can today like it's it's totally up to you I I see Merit and both you know I really
do um I think having fewer people allows you to focus more on your Q&A whereas when you're trying to get through nine people and a lot of them will be saying similar things because you're all just getting to know each
other um and so I think it may be more difficult to sort through a larger number um but again I'm new with this yeah and I think you would you would if at that point you would really
limit Q&A like Ty said like at that point it's you minut you've got the you've got the the qu you've got the questions that have been answered obviously any candidate can talk to or call or email any board member or anything that they want to do
um not saying that that has to be done but like that there's there's a lot of information already on the table at that point so then you just make the statement and go and vote and do the voting method which I would like to at least make sure that we have that down before the meeting because it's easier to do it before the meeting then on the
day of um and go from there so if you want to I guess we just need a consensus the board I know sorry just so to be clear are there any guidelines for how long the Q&A per candidate would last does it have to be
even Stephen for all of the candidates because just to calculate the time um I know we have having been in exec we have a very pretty long agenda Monday as it is that's why I would suggest that we if you do it that way and this is my
suggestion not it's everyone's decision if you do that way I would just say there a five minute statement no questions so yeah and I I would like the opportunity to ask the candidates questions so if you're going to go that way I would to best point then I would
limit it down a little at least so you have have more time with each candidate because if you're not you're talking five minute statement at least what five minute questions so 10 talk over almost an hour and a half at that point plus debate plus voting so you're talking two hours
yeah hour and a half maybe I move that up the agenda yeah is we're all still fresh at the beginning of that meeting yeah yeah and I would I would assume and and this may be me assuming but that you know a lot of these letters of uh interest are
going to be very similar to what somebody says in their in an opening statement you know they're they're clearly stating why you know they want to be a part of the board um you know some may elaborate a little bit more or less but uh like I think that you know a
lot of those letters gave us a good Insight um so you know I guess yeah we can go right into questions yeah instead of I mean maybe we could you know take their statement as prepared and then just go right into questions up to it's
up to everyone I said I'm I'm generally okay with whatever the board decides but this is the only option I have to ask the board what they want and I would love as much specifics as possible I was we've seen is the one thing I've learned to start this process
is we could have hammered out we could have probably spent 45 minutes hammering out a much more detailed process and just following it um but again you didn't know how many people were going to apply it's it was yeah I mean we could lay out something like if you want to have an opening statement you know no
more than two minutes and then three minutes for question and answers um and that way we sort of know going into it like five minutes per candidate um I think I think would feel better than kind of an open-ended you know type of thing
that's that's what you could just limit the time total a candidate and then add some variation right also just to encourage everybody to do your homework well ahead of time yeah i' said reading yeah make
sure that you're maybe that will help cut down for some people you know who they're going to ask questions of Etc yeah and that's I mean that that is my like thing is I think going through I mean I I did think the candidate pull was exceptionally strong I was really
pleased with with the candidates and and the responses that we reive so like there's no but even then with with the layout of what I with the you know connection to schools the working with each other the financial background Independence like that everyone kind of
shared I do feel like it limits it and so that was to me I've I have narrowed down my candidates in my in my head um another question um is there any way we can post I don't know their their
resumes or their questions um for the public I mean it's I me I know it's been done in the past yeah I know it's been done in the past too and I think um just for some Community feedback of I think would be helpful on some of the you know
some of the candidates I mean I've reached out to some people um that I know have connections and um you know so that was really helpful for me personally on on some of them um but again I didn't get feedback on you know I don't know connections on all of them
so um I think that might be something um and maybe we ask them first like hey this is what we're going to do it is public record anyway we would normally redact personal information number phone number you know email address you know those things but we read like kids names
too right same sh names correct same also would it be possible to get just like a from Tammy maybe just a list of everybody because we have them all in the fold there is a sheet there is a Shar sheet yeah this no there's a Shar sheet too there's a shed sheet with with
when the questions were submitted and everything um I think if not I can share that yeah I don't know if that was just your tracking I don't know if I just found it when I was searching so um than well I guess you could also do an very academic thing which is you
could say well you know on let's have 25 points that we can distribute 25 points is the top per candidate and maybe we'll give five points if we think they have a strong financial background and we'll
give them if it's articulate I kind of understand clearly what their background is we'll give them another up to Five Points you know and you begin to narrow it trying to put point system to it um
I've seen that used uh frequently when you have applicants to grad programs and that might be and so you're not just personally saying I really like that person I know that person it it's it's not like picking someone for a
sority so much as someone that you're thinking about a weighted way to actually approach it given that all people have miror let's let's come to the voting part after we figure out how we're doing it I guess first so I mean I am feeling that
that is where my my preference would be to narrow down but not today but today but I am also really fine with progressing everything I did find yeah so really if if that's where we want to go then we can just agree that um Josie where are
you sitting I don't even I'm I would say out of the eight candidates we have the net eight I know what two of you s but not there are there there I I I agree with other statements that we had a really strong candidate pool there's no question but like I said I had I laid
out my priorities and so there were six who who checked at least two of those boxes and the only two who did not so if I had to you know eliminate anybody tonight just to have reduced burden next
Monday you know for the process um there would only be two that I would probably Advocate not moving forward again their time may come but right now for where we are and what we need that would be my personal preference but if the if the majority here would like to hear from all eight
have the opportunity to ask questions of all eight I am I am open to that as well because you never know what you're missing by not having an interview so to speak true but on the other hand you can get to the point point that you'd like half of that
person right I mean it's just it's efficient to move forward with fewer but if there's consensus but um I'm you know I I'm comfortable being in the minority on that I agree with everything I'm this is I I know we need
to make a decision so I um I guess my thoughts would be um that maybe we do try to narrow it down um versus kind of moving all eight forward I I would agree it's more
efficient um yeah I mean I'm also you could hit a compromise and we could take more people forward so maybe we narrow it down but not you know to three to
five or we each get three votes and we do a first second third would progress the top five if there are five people who get votes because maybe we voting for this I don't think we will We progress up to the top L that's one way
again um so it sounds like we got two for sure looking to would progress everyone um two I'm not sure Josie which one you were falling on but I think two that would limit it down to a number um
Beth I'm not sure where you are or jie I think you're I think you're on that camp but I'm not totally sure that's the case or if you wanted to progress us the three I think you you were talking six yeah there are a couple people I feel very strongly about a couple I have
questions about and a couple that I just thought didn't have enough of the background criteria that I'm looking for so do you want CP people in there that I I think would be I I like I respect and would be I think good board members but they may not take the boxes
either so I also I don't want to put board members into something like making it seem like they didn't like a candidate because that's not maybe true it's definitely not personal never is and this is this is difficult this is difficult and and you know there are pros and cons to running for office and
having six months to run a campaign something by appointment yeah um so I guess let's I mean let's vote if if the only way to do this is vote with the board so um if you want we can narrow I guess there's three options but
really two fundamental do we progress everyone and or do we narrow the pool today if we do narrow the pool today to how many um but we can start Pro probably by saying just a she we don't have to do a motion at this point we can
just show up hands of um whether we want to narrow it down or I guess we can just choose whichever want progress if we want to show hands to progress everyone we which we voting on right now we showing hands to if you want to
progress the entire pool okay just because I want more time and and that's fair like there's no I'm actually not I said I wouldn't be upset whatever everyone decides but so it sounds like we would narrow the field down is it um also to acceptable to to the people and
I know we're all kind of on there if we set that number higher does everyone like and again this is just me but if we want to turn in our top three candidates some doesn't even have to be ranked we can just do the top three and the top three vote Getters or the top five vote Getters we can progress and if there's
if there is five I assume there would be that's one way to do it that's halfing the pool do it all right so with that um if you just want to turn the names I would not make any comments cuz remember they are just tell you the name you can you
can tell if you want or you can write down and I tell you want paper I have paper if I I you want to do which way would you just want to tell it's hard to it's hard to I'm going to write them down write them down it's way easier otherwise I don't know how to do the and
keep track just I'll just remind you these are foilable that's why I said is they are public you don't have to add your name yeah I'll take one thank you so we'll collect them and keep them in the board packet so you know anybody else
yeah you just want to put on order a preference or no I'm saying do the three doesn't matter about preference I'm just going to tally the total number these are the ones that worked these are the ones you
want move on okay do you need a new piece of paper [Music] no and don't I mean if you need a few minutes this is fine like are we including the person that we
hav't up to you that's they are a candidate they are a candidate or not yeah and there's still quite a bit of information to go on with their letter of intent and resume right is that the person
sick and you up to three up yep up to up to three that's I will have uh it can I get another piece of paper just to CH I want to keep her then tell I'll have you hat T tally or whoever someone
else should tally as well just to verify [Applause] for [Music] I really do take your time it's fine like and I like wearing the test like in high school no no no and I had kind of
spent some time earlier doing just this tailing so oh yeah post it you time for thought we had great great SC you want to pass those on for her to double check
yeah and we got one more yeah why don't you hold this one have her pass it to you and pass it us that way we're not yep we got a checks and balances me here this is always an awkward oh yeah public meetings when you have to debate
certain things that true I mean even when we hired superintendent you know you have to debate it in public and it's always like it's exciting when you see so many good candidates you want to be part of it and at the same time it's like you wish that you just have one yes make it EAS a
really interesting thing is in other states all the it can be anonymous all closed session really superintendent as well I mean there's some I get I get both sides yeah I mean you know the part I think a lot of times for superintendent is especially if
you're coming from another District yeah you know like you know that it can cause conflict that why do you want to leave us see see that right yeah same thing with pasture exactly right sure yeah so if you don't
get it you're going back you you still love me that's right shall I meet you with the river right purpose yeah SC first yeah unfortunately you're not looking
for two or three can yes that happens in some school districts mhm you know the process you know like when a board either doesn't have any candidates or can agree it goes to the ISD board and they're the ones
that make that decision didn't they did you step down or yeah and they didn't have any candidates and so it kicked the F board to point somebody and find somebody if they're not able to or it's a tie or whatever it goes to the IC Bo
good then come verify you get a thank you though yeah yeah cards this be interested to see [Music] oh
yeah okay they do match um so now going to say names I'll choose the first uh I'm going to go with first names although I wrote them down as um so the top vote gets were um Scott
Hardy Peter Mooney Jessica fer and Becky lent each had um and then we also had a t for the fifth spot um with Jerry and uh Ean and D were the can you state
their last names do my do my best apologies if I deia um actually that's and then Eman Smith Eman Smith and then D zud
zud that was one um okay so those are the so we have we have four candidates with more than one vote um so obviously we progress though the only question is is if you we have
three who receive one vot so I said five do you want to send four you want to Ty rate the three how do you want to do it I say we do the four I agree okay that's what I would say propose and so again uh
so the four uh Jessica forer Jessica forer um Peter Mooney Becky lent and Scott Hardy and each of them received at least at least two votes okay and the others
received only one yeah I mean I think this is I mean people are going to ask I just I'll say what the vote count was um Scott Hardy received five Peter Mooney received Four Jessica forer received for Becky rece two so
can you repeat that one more time yep uh Scott Scott Hardy had five Peter money had four Jessica fer had four Becky lent had two everybody else had one everyone else
had one or fewer yes perhaps okay all right so if that is what we want to do I said if there's any other questions we can certainly talk about it or we can take a motion with the four I will move uh to move forward to our March 10th
board meeting uh Jessica Forester Scott Hardy Becky Len and Peter Mooney for consideration of the uh open board seat a second all right um Tammy please conduct a
local um Moon more yes uh Ballinger yes bird yes C yes Schmid yes Newman mail yes motion carries so thank you everyone this is definitely not a fun process can we talk process quick I do want to cover
that yeah I was going to go on to the voting So to avoid changing any rules on anyone at at the next meeting right I do want to have now we're down to four we know what we're dealing with I do want to set the parameters so everyone knows ahead of time so it's clear um so
previously we've arrived meeting and figured it out obviously I think it's best for us to just take the time and say how do we want this to happen so we've now down to four candid dates do you want to we originally said in our packet there' be a five minute followed by questions do you want to follow that
process um what limits you want to put on questions um whether it be time number from a board member first I would just say since we posted five minutes and we only have four candidates I am okay with giving them five minutes
each so that be couple minutes of statement and then their personal statement could be up to 5 minutes which is long since we're all used to three minutes of public comments but you know they have the discretion they can make it shorter but I'm okay with them taking
up to five if they so choose and if they choose shorter then can we do we open it up for questions I think that's a a separate part either you can say that it's period of time five minutes or greater and that's it however it breaks down or you can just say there's an
opening segement up to five minutes and then either you Bard members can ask a maximum of one question per yeah would be candidate um I don't think we've got people who are looking to trip people up or do anything you know dramatic for
them so like I think whatever they up to they a lot of times you may not want to ask the question I think it should be clarifying but not a time limit so much as just one question each so six questions per candidate two I would I I would withhold
personally unless there's something specific that you want to hear but um you have that right again totally the board process there's uh there's no and then after that I would suggest that we
do the voting in a similar method although if you want it to apply points you could have a stagger points you could choose one two or three people and have more points from first place something that's the that would be mb's yeah part that they do say is they
say choose two two candidates two points for first one point for second and then you total that so that's uh two parts to it first let's deal with the I think we're okay with five minute statement sure um yeah then as far as questions what do people
want to do for questions and I think just I think our questions that we asked them to answer were very good and thorough and I was able to get a lot of information from their answer so I can't Envision six questions per candidate I think unless there's something very
specific that somebody just needs clarification on um well you can make it that each board member has one question total for any of the candidates like again this is what we can decide it's not a time for us to elocute on our own values and what you know like I've got
to I just need to know about this like um is the point I would think for questions but if you want to you can just leave it that the total board members can have one question across all can like total I think that's too few one per well I said I I I feel like some
people maybe know questions as well so like that's where I'm trying to find out where the happy Med if I saw something in their paperwork that triggers a question I'll ask it if if not I probably I wouldn't have any either it'll just very on the candidate yeah I agree I so I I agree I'm fine with that
too I feel like if you have a question as a board member to be able to ask the candidate I think that that's that's fair yeah so up to one question we're trying use our discretion to like it's not meant to be anything but I really need to know this yeah yeah and there I
mean yeah I mean you might have you know more than one question I'm okay with that too I am but at some point you going have a limit can we limit the time of questions though why we kind of have by the response as well you mean yeah like so if we said we're going to do
personal statements at five minutes maybe limit questions to eight or 10 minutes yeah I mean the I think it should be fairly quick on each one I'm one minute for a response yeah that's that's where I would put a limit to one minute per response one minute response
we can't we can't take more than yeah we can cut each other off if we're pontificating going on so that yeah we should as board we should Reserve we should try you know it should be clarifying questions only they should be quick and concise and then a one minute
one minute response okay okay I will be your designated timekeeper to adjust like to just see if we can post them online too the the resumes and the um their answers to their questions I think that'd be great um to try to get some Community feedback
or is it okay if we confirm with them at that point the four candidates y for sure that they they're okay to proceed and if so we'll post their things with redacted personal information yeah as far as address phone number email yeah as long as they know that it is foil
point y kids names maybe even kids schools I don't know can you get that up within 48 Hours M that' be great there's not too much I mean we all read them there's not too much in there but there is some I only remember one applicant who named their children yeah we would
we would we would do that we would like that because of a records element for us with that foro we would we would redact the kids names okay and addresses like yeah like ke okay all right so then on that um so we if we're agreeing again on
the process we don't need a formal motion I don't think on this um however we do or maybe we should just at least state that uh afterwards but we do on the voting side can we get that down I mean do we want to do three top three 3
two one point three for first two for second one for third do you want to do two any prence who's on first what's that who the St B so four candidat so you get we have five interviews you get to vote I'm suggest I'm just throwing
something out there to to start that you vote for your top three candidates in order number one we get three points number two we get two points number three we get one point so you're staggering your vote you don't have to vote for three if you want okay can you vote for
the same candidate [Laughter] no I'd like to get this out now this is a good this is a good process so number one is your top vote number two yeah I support that Scot yep Y and then that way it's very clear and then we tally we do a double check as well like we did
before and do a similar just Anonymous I think it's a a good a good Bute if we have a tie or something like that yeah tie yeah it would be harder when you have three to get a tie but statistically it would be possible especially so but even if you had a tie
you may want it to be well if you have a tie then you can vote between the two sure but if you don't have a tie event do you know because you're nwing from four to two you may want to sit and go then okay let's do another vote of our only that's one point did get to a final C it depends on
your spread Bo you guys feel comfortable we're going four to two well that's the thing four to one he just said I the question was if there is a tie yeah then it's a runoff then it's a runoff between the two candidates B we're going four to one if it's a tie it's a run off yeah
okay okay that's why that's the easiest way to do I don't we need to appr I get the V that voting that like that's what they used to like the Olympics when they eliminate one they re every time right um okay so is there any other
questions on rules or procedure we anything you can think of I think we're good you know we we've what our board packet says right now is maintains true you get five minute the five minute you know opening statement and then the board will control questions we'll Post online the
information that's been requested if the for people still want to move forward um and uh I think we're good okay um One Last Request would just be for the others that um were not moving forward I'm just will you yeah I think we send
person thank you like so I don't again I don't think there was any bad cand no I don't either and and you know in in two years there's going to be um you know I mean I would just encourage them to stay tuned and um you know I we really had some fantastic candidates apply and it
kind of fills fills me up just knowing that there's so many great people that care about teap so um it's really pleasantly surprise so um yeah and then do we have an installment thought would they be coming
to the next meeting they'll be invited to join us at the table immediately but sworn in later yeah on the 10th you can't vote until they're sworn in so yep we talked about that quite a bit of executive yeah it's like you first yeah
cuz I think we didn't want to it's like kind of nice that they can be part of it but the same time you don't want the pressure of like literally just dropped in and you don't have any background or context or committee meetings that you may not have seen so um we may have I thought we would scare some more people off with our committee meetings uh this
month but clearly not the time commitment question yeah um okay well that's it so um it's there's uh I think we're set any other questions on the process now is the time CU again I do want to a little bit more
H it out before I just want to thank all the candidates for applying again um and it since uh the vast majority have Elementary School students you have many years ahead of you to be involved we encourage you to do so please consider
volunteering in your schools there's always a sex education advisory committee that has vacancies every year and um campaigning is not that bad feel free to reach out if you ever want any advice on that front yeah don't ask
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public comment individuals addressing the board should have one opportunity so if you already spoken you cannot speak again we lied for 3 minutes individuals should not make personal attacks unrelated to action protected in the school system and we strongly encourage common courtesy and constructive feedback detail rules and procedures including complaint process outlined in
board policy 2504 D we do Scott Richards Richard Green Lake Township um I shut the door earlier because I couldn't hear you guys some of you guys are soft spoken so I couldn't that's why I shut the door we have to have open State rules open meetings act just say
we can't hear you we'll look at it that's why I did it okay um I'm a veteran I spent six years in the military and I fought for people to have the First Amendment right so I think all
the Schoolboard people should had a chance to speak in front of the public because that's how I feel you have a you can speak whatever you want even though I don't like the speech but I had to listen to it so that's what the
first amendment's all about I think the Schoolboard people that applied should have respect to talk in front of the public I also think the public should be able to see their application so the public has a choice
in it and there was nothing about transparency here I mean you guys picked four people and eight people wanted this be on the board that being on the board is a great responsibility if these people want to
put their time in to give an application I think the public should be able to see it and I think they should have the chance to speak in front of the public and in front of you as far as your kids my kids are grown my kids are out of school okay but the problem is the
younger kids are going to be influenced in my kids so that's why I think it's a great responsibility and I think everybody should had a chance to speak thank you all right no other public comment all right then hear you know the public comment uh just again thank you for all
the candidates amazing poll um we will go through and redact any personal information they'll be posted uh with permission um uh in added to the packet whichever way works for you guys uh with that uh do I have a motion to adjourn
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w e [Music] for this meeting of the Board of Education to order the board would like to welcome the audience and thank you for attending viewers may watch Board of Education meetings and board committee meetings live at tcaps.net backboard recorded meetings may be viewed on
demand at the same address please rise and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with
liberty and justice for all okay we the review approval portion of the agenda is there any or motion to approve I need to approve the agenda as presented I all those say I hi all those post say
nay motion carries uh moving on to public comment uh any public com we do um Bill Weisner okay and before Bill starts I'll give you a second bill just to set your clock because the board has set aside this time for public comment individuals addressing the board should have one opportunity to speak and shall
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2504 goes into the issue on lgbtq it shows a lot on here this was written by people above me and they go into the history of the movement Alfred Kinsey all that the health risks and so
keep this in mind this is important the kids in the school all the children should have access to this information like this um the handout I was going to give it to you but I'll just go to tattle if you
want to read this and it's from um Michelle Howard the librarian there okay the head librarian and if you look in March's newsletter way at the bottom uh it goes and it says um she talks about
two topics the first one is the low reading scores across Michigan so she's encouraging reading books and then she says and the second reason that we're celebrating reading is basically she got three paragraphs saying of the people
still continually W wanting to ban books and prevent these kids from getting the information and it's over and over in there it's like we don't ban books but just like teaps TC West High School 500
books promoting homosexual Behavior that's what it is it's positive towards LGBT not one book on the other side so I haven't heard anybody address that yet I don't know if the books have changed it'd be good to this is publicly known
it's on my website TC family.org I just looked them up anybody can look up those books what are we doing on the other side Michelle says we can't keep information away because the kids have a right to it and if you don't want to
read it just don't look ask a librarian to show you where the books are that interest you well the books that interest me are the ones that aren't being shown there on LGBT and the history of it and the false foundation and the risks and the transgender issue
where if you just leave the kids alone 85 to 95% of them will come out of that feeling but uh but they're encouraged in it a couple other things when you select a board member hopefully we'll get
somebody like that that's open into looking at that and not only looking at it but making it right if there's 500 books promoting homosexuality there should be 500 showing the compassionate view on the other side so um please
select someone that's got that Viewpoint open mind to show both sides and our side is not being show thank you thank you is there any other public Che that um so that is the end of
the public comment requests uh do we we have a motion to approve the consent calendar as presented I moved up the Board of Education approve the consent calendar as presented and without discussion second second right all those
in favor say I I all those poos say nay motion carries moving on to discussion firstly thanks everyone for making it today I know this is a a difficult time and uh to have a 100% participation is is fantastic um there is
no right or wrong way to do this and and the board didn't really prescribe a way to do it at the previous uh meeting so I do have some notes I did there was a reach out to MB who did have a process for the the final candidates and it is a little applicable to here but really the
general gist was identifying what you're looking for in a board member measuring that person against that and and and if you can agree that then grade and regardless you can have a voting method so I didn't know how the board wanted
and I'm open open to take any dialogue um and I can kick it off I mean I know what I'm I think we all probably have differences but what we're looking for in board members I'm happy to go through that if we want to start that way and see if we line up on a Shar and if so
then we can then measure the candidates against that so does anyone want I'm happy to go first or if anyone wants to go first why don't you go first I said I feel like uh I mean for me for me there's a couple of things obviously number one is we
want I want someone who's going to add to the board who's going to work with uh all all board members um to debate and be open-minded uh to come without any preconceived notions of of of change or what you know just be really open
Financial background I think yeah I know that we've all got plenty of financial EXP experiences but we with Andrew leaving and Matt previously before that we' I think we've lost a lot of financial uh background which is is kind
of a critical board function so for me Financial background is is right up there and then I do want to be wary of the balance of the board um it's a definitely the lower of the third but making sure that we have um All Views and and kind of
different views it doesn't matter what they are either like to have different views so uh having people who are different to our existing board members is always beneficial so that's my criteria I'm happy to go next yeah so we
had some overlap but some differences uh my my four priorities when I was looking through all of the letters of Interest the resumés and the responses to the Q&A was um one a connection to Elementary School parent a parent or grandparent or
even perhaps a relative of a of a teacher but but particularly a parent or grandparent of elementary school students um none of us remaining has a an elementary school age child in the system and I do think that perspective is is really helpful and that is one
thing we lost in Andrew Rond secondly the financial background which you mentioned um particularly K through 12 budgets that's extremely helpful anybody who has background in in Michigan schools uh you know budgeting that's
helpful but you know there are some applicants who have significant business backgrounds um or degrees in finance economics Etc third was is former board experience doesn't have to be T Cap's Board of Education uh it could be a commission it
could be an Advisory board but that was a a third area that was relevant to me because of the governance responsibility that we have that consensus building problem solving um the the constructive you know leadership that we need and
fourth this was probably really hard to get out of the paperwork so i' be looking more for the interviews on this part but I would say independence and moral courage to challenge the status quo and advocate for continuous Improvement for students success um so
working collaboratively but also you know fighting for our kids that's that's a key thing for me okay and I just I mean I really think you guys kind of covered the the items that were my priorities uh as well I was
um thoroughly impressed with all of oh my gosh all of the interest in this position and um feel very fortunate that we had so many super qualified people uh come out uh to apply for the position but but again um you know my um a lot of
my goals are the same uh uh pick a candidate that has the ability to work with all the board members um obviously Financial background is key um losing Andrew um you know and this is my first uh time serving on the finance committee
so um uh so to have somebody that has that experience I think is very important um and uh the connection to the elementary school that was actually not one of my priorities but through even reading um it was interesting um
through reading a lot of the um candidates there's a lot of Eastern Elementary School connections which I thought was very interesting but uh that was definitely something that I thought um you know you and I both have high school kids or actually all three of us have high school kids Beth you know doesn't have any kids but brings you
know and and Tai to has kids um Scott to I me five of us have the elementary a few years ago yeah so um yeah Scott will be bringing up true true not even Junior kind
so um so I always did appreciate Andre's perspective on that Elementary uh Viewpoint um so th those were all part of um my priorities as well so okay and I and I do feel that way I Echo what all
of you said I feel like integrity and Community Connection um is really important um there's a number of really beautiful wonderful candidates here and you know many of whom have Financial experience um it's really important to
me that people be able to to navigate some of the important issues that come up with integrity and I'm open to that too like I love having different viewpoints I wouldn't necessarily for example um exclude somebody for being something
different than me and I don't think we should I think it should be um something varied and I also feel that um I like the idea of having a parent here because we like you said we don't have many of those left we're all starting to age out
of that um the other the other part is um I like seeing the teaps um involvement with some of these candidates I think there's been a lot of those and I think that's fantastic so okay you you're welcome to you don't have to yeah I mean I maybe I'm jumping
the gun but I think it's is it okay for us to not agree on AB what we're looking for absolutely and will we each have an individual vot yeah so I mean this is so again my process was if we come down to the uh if we agree generally what it is I
think that's what I would use to measure the candidates against you could at the end of it l however we decide we're going to probably end up with a vote I can tell you my proposal which is based off of MP's thing is to have people have multiple votes either top two top three and a point three points for the first
two points for second one point for third or two points for first one second chances of ties um exactly and then it's um you know I think personally I'm guessing that we're probably going to come down to just the top two um and everyone can write down I tally the vote have someone
else tally the vote to double check my math and then whatever that is and then we take the top X number and I would probably suggest three um two three or four would be the max I would say two would be the minimum and then we uh I
would suggest three um but again open to suggestions so do you want to add anything to the comments of what you again you can say you can add stuff it's fine well I I'll just say my piece like you know we have uh seven now eight who
have submitted the Q&A um and I'm just one person but I I would like to hear from all eight of them in a in a statement on on the 10th um that may not be agreed but I I I think they should all have the
opportunity to speak um their statement their resume that the Q&A to me would be enough to make a decision so I don't think there should be an interview back and forth as well but that's just that's just me and I know eight times 3 minutes is 24 minutes of statements and I get that we're going to have a long meeting
but um they actually get up to five minutes each so it'll be 40 and the five minutes comes from their statements their opening statements are that's how originally laid out that was one of the things that the board did lay out originally oh they in the exact committee no I think we actually did
that the board meeting didn't we yeah or in the announcement in the announcement it was kind of like discussed in in the board but not I I see so they'll have five minute statements and and right and then we have Q&A that was partially based off of previous what we had done but the Q&A
the interviewing it was also in what was communicated to the candidates yeah I mean we said that the board could ask questions I mean but we didn't say that the board would ask specific questions or and you know obviously we could agree not to it was more of a clarifying question it wasn't meant to be new questions it was more like I don't
understand I'm open to more than less than I mean I'd prefer all seven or at least the folks that submitted their q&as on time again I'm not clearly sure what we said was on time the deadline but um that's just that's my
opinion Y and I think my only logic and I don't necessar disagree originally we talked about this as a board and I was like there's a we weren't sure what the number was and my my number in the head was around eight um probably would have if we had had a few people dropped out hadn't applied in the first place we
probably would have wouldn't have even had this meeting and we just done it um so that is an option I just also since we are here if we are going to narrow it down we can save their time as well as ours I'm less worried about our time
than I am bringing someone in and putting them through the public uh spectacle of of that if if they're not likely to get selected and I'm I don't want to also bias anything so I'm okay with whatever the board decides again I'm I'm okay hearing from all the
candidates I mean like I like I said I I was very impressed with all of them and honestly um really tough decision to be honest I mean I really felt like each one of them add could add something different to the board so um so sure if if the rest of you what do I mean what
do you guys think do you I would love a little more time to review it because I mean we did just get the last one in the last half hour last hour um I would love a little more time to flesh it out a little more and and you know be able to ask pointed questions
when the time comes and just so all the I mean obviously it was we had a problem in the fact that we were planning to have a meeting leader today but then we couldn't because of all the other teaps commitments so right hence why we originally had a deadline that was uh unrealistic for our expectations so
that's you again apologies we didn't I just want to make sure that that last I mean we the last candidate that we that there wasn't a mix up or we emailed them and asked them Friday that if they could have them in preferably by 3:00 on
Sunday yesterday okay yeah okay that was the communication we had one that was sick couldn't that was communicated and then they have since turned it in okay I think there's still a couple
two again I'm okay with this is a board process so that would that would make this meeting very easy um so it's up to everyone else will said well then I guess the question
would be can everybody make the uh March 10th meeting of the candidates correct that would also be you I mean we would assume now obviously if they can't then they can't whether we progress or not I
guess is irrelevant but um um so I don't know if I'm sure there'll be one or two who cannot make it so just just to clarify are we trying to debate uh having all candidates present here today no not today because we only I mean we
do have a couple in the audience um it would be all eight would progress to the March 10th meeting is what Ty was suggest we wouldn't we wouldn't limit it at all okay okay or n the nth person turns in your paper
question yeah I mean suggest by four technically they don't even have to turn them in theoretically yeah I mean they've they've submitted the application we asked them to and I'll just this came because I you know as nmc did a similar process and and I applied for it and we all got a chance to speak
and we all did the Q&A and we sent a resume and they voted right then and there um and I thought it was a nice process so that's the only reason and I don't think seven or eight is that big of a number um and I do respect them for putting their it takes a lot of um courage to throw your hat in the ring
and and come do it and I I would love personally to hear them speak I think being able to speak clearly and concisely is an important skill and um I think that's we owe them yeah I mean going into exact my I if I was hoping it was going to be
seven under sevenish or less and then we would we wouldn't have scheduled this meeting and then obviously it was more and then a couple dropped out um originally 11 then so like it was going up too so I I was like all right well that that's kind of
above the number that we could do in one if the board wants to do that then that's how we can do it if we want to narrow it down to at all we can today like it's it's totally up to you I I see Merit in both you know I really
do um I think having fewer people allows you to focus more on your Q&A whereas when you're trying to get through nine people and a lot of them will be saying similar things because you're all just getting to know each
other um and so I think it may be more difficult to sort through a larger number um but again I'm new with this so yeah and I think you would you would if at that point you would really limit
Q&A like Ty said like at that point it's you you've got the you've got the the qu you've got the questions that have been answered obviously any candidate can talk to or call or email any board member or anything that they want to do
um not saying that it has to be done but like that there's there's a lot of information already on the table at that point so then you just make the statement and go and vote and do the voting method which I would like to at least make sure that we have that down before the meeting because it's easier to do it before the meeting than on the
day of um and go from there so if you want to I guess we just need a consensus sorry just so to be clear are there any guidelines for how long the Q&A per candidate would last does it
have to be even Stephen for all of the candidates because just to calculate the time um I know we have having been in exec we have a very pretty long agenda Monday as it is that's why I would suggest that we if you do it that way
and this is my suggestion not it's everyone's decision if you do that way I would just say there's a five minute statement no questions vote yeah and I I would like the opportunity to ask the candidates questions so if you're going to go that
way I would to best point then I would limit it down a little at least so you have have more time with each candidate because if not you're talking a five minute statement at least what five minute questions so 10 so over almost an hour and a half at
that point plus debate plus voting so you're talking two hours yeah hour and a half maybe see I move that up in the agenda yeah so is we're all still fresh at the beginning of that meeting yeah yeah and I would I would assume and and this may be me assuming but that you
know a lot of these letters of uh interest are going to be very similar to what somebody says and their in an opening statement you know they're they're clearly stating why you know they want to be a part of the board um you know some may elaborate a little bit
more or less but uh like I think that you know a lot of those letters gave us a good Insight um so you know I guess yeah we can go right into questions yeah instead of I mean maybe we could you know take their statement as prepared
and then just go right into question it's up to yep it's up to everyone has said I'm I'm generally okay with whatever the board decides but this is the only option I have to ask the board what they want and I would love as much specifics as
possible obviously as we've seen is the one thing I've learned to start this process is we could have hammered out we could have probably spent 45 minutes hammering out a much more detailed process and just following it um but again you didn't know how many people were going to apply it's it was yeah I mean we could lay out something like if
you want to have an opening statement you know no more than two minutes and then three minutes for question and answers um and that way we sort of know going into it like five minutes per candidate um I think I think would feel better than
kind of an open-ended you know you type of thing that's that's what you could just limit the time total per candidate and then add some variation right also just to encourage everybody to do your homework well ahead
of yeah i' said reading yeah make sure that you're maybe that will help cut down for some people you know who they're going to ask questions of ET yeah and that's I mean that that is my like thing is I think going through I mean I I did think the candidate pull
was exceptionally strong I was really pleased with with the candidates and and the responses that we receive so like there's no but even then with with the layout of what I with the you know connection schools the working with each other the financial background
Independence like that everyone kind of shared I do feel like it limits it and so that was to me I've I have narrowed down my candidates in my in my head I another question um is there any way we can post I don't know their their
resumés or their questions um for the public I mean it's cor one I know it's been done in the past yeah I know what's been done in the past too and I think um just for some Community feedback of I think would be helpful on some of the
you know some of the candidates I mean I've reached out to some people um that I know have connections and um you know so that was really helpful for me personally on on some of them um but again I didn't get feedback on you know I don't know connections on all of them
so um I think that might be something um and maybe we ask them first like hey this is what we're going to do it public record anyway we would normally redact personal information number phone number you know email address you know those things but we WR like kids names too
same names correct same also would it be possible to get just like a from Tammy maybe just a list of everybody because we have them all in the full there is a sheet there is a shed sheet yeah this yeah no there's a shed sheet too there's a shed sheet with with when the
questions were submitted and everything um I think no if I can share that yeah I don't know if that was just your tracking I don't know if I just found it when I was searching so um thank you well I guess you could also do an very academic thing which is
you could say well you know on let's have 25 points that we can distribute 25 points is the top per candidate and maybe we'll give five points if we think they have a strong financial background and we'll give them if it's articulate I
kind of understand clearly what their background is we'll give them another up to Five Points you know and and you begin to narrow it trying to put a point system to it um I've seen that used uh frequently when you have applicants to
grad programs and that might be and so you're not just personally saying I really like that person and I know that person it it's it's not like picking someone for a sorority so much as someone that you're
thinking about a weighted way to actually approach it given that all people have miror let let's come to the voting part after we figure out how we're doing it I guess first so I mean I am feeling that that is where my my preference would be
to narrow down but not today but today but I am also really fine with progressing everything um I did find so really if if that's where we want to go then we can just agree that um Josie where are you sitting I don't even I'm I would say out
of the eight candidates we have the net eight I know where two of you stand by not sure there there I I I agree with other statements that we had a really strong candidate pool there's no question but like I said I had I laid out my priorities and so there were six
who who checked at least two of those boxes and the only two who did not so if I had to you know eliminate anybody tonight just to have reduced burden next Monday you know for the process um there
would only be two that I would probably Advocate not moving forward again their time may come but right now for where we are and what we need that would be my personal preference but if the if the majority here would like to hear from all eight have the opportunity ask questions of
all eight I am I am open to that as well because you never know what you're missing by not having an interview so to speak true but on the other hand you can get to the point that you'd like half of that person right I mean it's just it's
sufficient to move forward with fewer but if there's consensus but um I'm you know I I'm comfortable being in the minority on that I agree with everything I'm this is I I know we need to make a decision so I
um I guess my thoughts would be um that maybe we do try to narrow it down um versus kind of moving all eight forward I I would agree it's more efficient
um yeah I mean I'm also you could h compromise and we could take more people forward so maybe we narrow it down but not you know to three to
five or we each get three votes and we do a first second third and we progress the top five if there are five people who get votes because maybe we W for this I don't think we will We grou up to the top five that's one way
again um so it sounds like we got two for sure looking to would progress everyone um to I'm not sure Josie which one you were falling on but I think two that would limit it down to a number Beth I'm not sure where you are
or J I think you're I think you're on that camp but I'm not totally sure if that's the case or if you wanted PR I think you you were talking six yeah there a couple people I feel very strongly about a couple I have questions about and a couple that I just
thought didn't have enough of the background criteria that I'm looking for so do you want and there's a couple of people in there that I I think would be I I like I respect and would be I think good board members but they may not take the boxes either so I also don't want to
put board members into something like making it seem like they didn't like a candidate because that's not maybe true it's definitely not personal it never is and this is this is difficult is and and you know they're pros and cons to running for office and having six months
to run a campaign something by appointment yeah um so I guess let's I mean let's vote if if the only way to do this is vote of the board so that um if you want we can narrow I guess there's three options but really two fundamental do we progress
everyone and or do we narrow the pool today if we do narrow the pool today to how many um but we can start Pro probably by saying just a sh we don't have to do a motion at this point we can just show up hands of um whether we want
to narrow it down or or I guess we can just choose whichever want progress if we want to show hands to progress everyone we vot which we voting on right now showing hands to if you want to progress the entire poll just because I want more time and
and that's fair like there's no I'm actually not I said I wouldn't be upset whatever everyone decides but so it sounds like we would narrow the field down is it um also to acceptable to to the people when I know we're all kind of on there if we set that number higher
does everyone like and again this is just me but if if we want to turn in our top three candidates some doesn't even have to be ranked we can just do the top three and the top three vote Getters or the top five vote Getters we can progress and if there's if there is five I assume there would be that's one way
to do it that's halfing the pool let's do it all right so with that um if you just want to turn the names I would not make any comments cuz remember they are so just tell you the name you can you
can tell if you want or you can write it down and I you want I have paper I I you want to do which way you just want to tell it's hard to it's hard to I'm gonna write them down write them down it's way easier otherwise I don't have to do keep track I'll just I'll just remind
you these are foilable that's why I said is they are you don't have to add your I'll take one thank you so we collect them and keep them in the board packet so you know anybody else yeah you just want to put them all on
it's easier order a preference or no I so I'm saying do the three doesn't matter about preference I'm just going to tally the total number these are the ones that work these are the ones you want move on do you need a new piece of paper
no um and don't I mean if you need a few minutes this is fine like are we including the person that we haven't heard but up to you that's they are a candidate they are a candidate or not yeah there's still
quite a bit of information to go on with their letter of intent and resume right Y is that the person who you up to three up yep up to up to three that's I will have uh it can I get another
piece of paper just to CH I want to keep her T I have you T tally or whoever someone else should tally as well just to verify for in
[Music] I really do take your time it's fine like and I like wearing the test like in high school no no no and I had to kind of spent some time earlier doing just us tailing so oh yeah post
it your time thought we have great great you want to pass those on for her to double check yeah I we got one more yeah why don't you hold this one have her pass it to you and yes it does that way we're not yep we got a checks and
balances mess here this is always an awkward oh yeah public meetings when you have to debate certain things that true I mean even when we hired superintendent you know you have to debate it in public and it's always like
it's exciting when you see so many good candidates you want to be part of it and at the same time it's like you wish that you just have one make it easier a really interesting thing is in other states all the it can be anonymous all closed session really superintendent as well I mean there's
some I get I get both sides yeah I mean you know the part I think a lot of t for superintenden is especially if you're coming from another District yeah you know like you know that it can cause conflict that why do you want to leave us see that
right yeah same thing with pastures exactly right sure yeah so if you don't get it you're going back you know go you still love me that's right shall I meet you at the river right
Scot first yeah unfortunately you're not looking for two or three candidates yes that happens in some school districts mhm you know the process you know like when a board either doesn't have any candidates or can agree it goes
to the ISD board and they're the ones that make that decision they did you step down or yeah and they didn't have any candidates and so it kicked the F board Point somebody and find somebody if they're not able to
or if it's a tie or whatever it goes to the I board then come verify clarify the match you get a thank you now yeah yeah your cards
this be interested to [Music] see okay they do match um so now I've got to say names I'll choose the first uh I'm going to go with first names although I wrote them down as
um so the top vote Getters were um Scott Hardy Peter Mooney Jessica fer and Becky Lent each had um and then we also had a tie for the fifth spot um with
Jerry and uh Ean and D were the three can you state their last names do my do my best apologies if I deia um actually that's and then Eman
Smith Eman Smith and then d z that was one wasd um okay so those are the so we have we have four candidates with more than one vote um so obviously we progress those
the only question is is if you we have three who received one vote so I said five do you want to send four or do you want to Ty rate the three how do you want to do them I say we do the four I agree okay that's what I would also
propose and so again uh so the four uh Jessica forer Jessica fer um Peter Mooney Becky lent and Scott Hardy and each of them received at least
at least two votes okay and the others received only one yeah I mean I think this is I mean people were going to ask I just I'll say what the vote count was um Scott Hardy received five Peter Mooney received Four Jessica forer received four uh make
let see two so can you repeat that one more time yep uh Scott Scott Hardy had five Peter money had four Jessica fer had four Becky lent had two everybody else had one everyone else
had one or fewer perhaps okay all right so if that is what we want to do I said if there's any other questions we can certainly talk about it or we can take a motion with the four I will move uh to move forward to
our March 10th board meeting uh Jessica Forester Scott Hardy Becky Lenn and Peter Mooney for consideration of the uh open board seat a second all right um Tammy please conduct a local vote
um Moon more yes uh Ballinger yes bird yes cat yes Schmid yes new ma yes motion carries so thank you everyone this is definitely not a fun process can we talk process quick so I do want to cover that
yeah I was going to go on to the voting So to avoid changing any rules on anyone at at next meeting right I do want to have now we're down to four we know what we're dealing with I do want to set the parameters so everyone knows ahead of time so it's clear um so previously
we've arrived meeting and figured it out obviously I think it's best for us to just take the time and say how do we want this to happen so we've now down to four candidates do you want to we originally said in our packet there'll be a five minute followed by questions do you want to follow that process um
what limits you want to put on questions um whether it be time number from a board member first I would just say since we post did five minutes and we only have four candidates I am okay with giving them five minutes
each couple minutes of statement and then their personal statement could be up to five minutes which is long since we're all used to three minutes of public comments but you know they have the discretion they can make it shorter but I'm okay with them taking up to five if they so choose and if they choose
shorter then can we do we open it up for questions I think that's a a separate part either you can say that it's period of time five minutes or greater and that's it however it breaks down or you can just say there's an opening segement up to five minutes and
then either you board members can ask a maximum of one question per yeah would candidate um I don't think we've got people who are looking to trip people up or do anything you know dramatic for them so like I think whatever they up to
they a lot of times you may not want to ask the question um I think it should be clarifying but not a time limit so much as just one question each so six questions per candidate up to I would I I would withhold personally unless there's
something specific that you want to hear but um you have that right again totally the board process there's uh there's no and then after that I would suggest that we do the voting in a similar method
although if you wanted to apply points you could have a stagger points you could choose one two or three people and have more points for first place that's the that would be mb's yeah part that they do say is they say choose two candidates two points for
first one point for second and then you total that so that's uh two parts to it first let's deal with the I think we're okay with five minute statement sure um yeah then as far as questions what do people want to do for questions and I think
just I think our questions that we asked them to answer were very good and thorough and I was able to get a lot of information from their answer so I can't Envision six questions per candidate I think unless there's something very specific that somebody just needs
clarification on um well you can make it that each board member has one question total for any of the candidates like again this is what we can decide it's not a time for us to elocute on our own values and what you know I just need to know about this like um
is the point I would think for questions but if you want to you can just leave it that the total board members can have one question across all can like tot I think that's too few one per well I said I I I feel like some people maybe know questions as well
so like that's what I'm trying to find out where the happy media if I saw something in their paperwork that triggers a question I'll ask it if if not I probably I wouldn't have any either it'll just vary on the candidate yes I agree I so I I agree I'm fine with that too I feel if you have a question
as a board member to be able to ask the candidate I think that that's that's fair yeah so up to one question we're trying and use our discretion to like it's not meant to be anything but I really need to know this yeah yeah and there I mean yeah I mean you might have
you know more than one question I'm okay with that too I am but at some point you going have a limit can we limit the time of questions though why we kind of have by the response as well you mean yeah like so if we said we're going to do personal statements at five minutes
maybe limit questions to eight or 10 minutes yeah I meanit I think it should be fairly quick on each one I'm one minute for a response yeah that's that's where I would put a limit to one minute per response one minute response and we can't we can't take more than
yeah we can cut each other off if we're pontificating going on too long so we should as board we should Reserve we should try you know it should be clarifying questions only they should be quick and concise and then a one minute one minute response okay okay I will be
your designated timekeeper to adjust like to just see if we can post them online too the the resumés and the um their answers to their questions I think that'd be great um to try to get some Community feedback or is it okay if we confirm with them at
that point the four candidates for sure that they're okay to proceed and if so we'll post their things with redacted personal information yeah as far as address phone number email yeah as long as they know that it is foilable any kids names maybe even kids schools I
don't know can you get that up within 48 hours that'd be great there's not too much I mean we all read them there's not too much in there but there is some I only remember one applicant who named their children yeah we would we would we would do that we would like that because
of a records element for us with that prop we would we would redact the kids names okay and address it like yeah like ke okay all right so then on that um so we if we're agreeing again on the process we don't need a formal motion I
don't think on this um however we do or maybe we should just at least state that uh afterwards but we do on the voting side can we get that down I mean do we want to do three top three 3 2 1 point three for first two for second one for
third do you want to do two any prence who's on first what's that who sings the St B so four candidates so you get we have five interviews you get to vote I'm suggest I'm just throwing something out there to to start that you vote for your top
three candidates in order number one we get three points number two we get two points number three we get one point so you're staggering your vote you don't have to vote for three if you won't okay can you vote for the same
[Laughter] candidate I like to get this out now this is a good this is a good process number one is your top vote number two I support that Scot yep Y and then that way it's very clear and then we'll tally we'll do a double check as well yeah like we did before and do a similar just
Anonymous I think is a a good a good way to do if you have a tie or something like that yeah tie yeah it would be harder when you have three yet a tie but statistically it would be possible especially so but even if you had a tie you may want to debate well if you have
a tie then you can vote between the two sure but if you don't have a tie event do you know because you're narrowing from four to two you may want to sit and go and then okay let's do another vote of our only that's one point to get to a final candate depends on your spread Bo you guys feel
comfortable we're going four to two no well that's the thing four to one he just said I said the question was if there is a tie yeah then it's a runoff then it's a runoff between the two candidates B we're going four to one if it's a tie it's a runoff yeah okay okay that's that's the easiest way to do I
don't we need to Pro I get was it the was V that voting like the that's what they use to like the Olympics when they eliminate one they re every time um okay so is there any other questions on rules or procedure that we anything you can think
of I think we're good you you know we we' what our board packet says right now is maintains true you get five minute a five minute you know opening statement and then board will control questions we'll Post online the information that's been requested if the for people still
want to move forward um and uh I think we're good okay um One Last Request would just be for the others that um were not moving forward um just will you yeah I think we send of person thank you like I don't again I don't think there
was any B cand no I don't either and and you know in in two years there's going to be um you know I mean I would just encourage them to stay tuned and um you know I we really had some fantastic candada Supply and it kind of fills fills me up just knowing that there's so
many great people that care about teap so um was really pleasantly surprised so um yeah Y and then do we have an installment thought would they be coming to the next meeting M they'll be invited
to join us at the table immediately but sworn in later yeah on the town you can't vote until they're sworn in so yep we talked about that quite a bit at executive yeah it's like you know first yeah CU I think we didn't want to it's like kind of nice that they can be part
of it but at the same time you don't want the pressure of like literally just dropped in and you don't have any background or context or committee meetings that you may not have seen so um we may have I thought we would scare some more people off with our committee meetings uh this month but clearly
not the time commitment question yeah um okay well that's it so um it's there's uh I think we're set any other questions on the process now is the time because again I do want it a little bit more H it out before I just want to
thank all the candidates for applying again um and it since uh the vast majority have Elementary School students you have many years ahead of you to be involved we encourage you to do so please consider volunteering in your
schools there's always a sex education advisory committee that has vacancies every year and um campaigning is not that bad feel free to reach out if you ever want any advice on that front yeah don't ask
[Music] me so uh public if there's no other comments uh again thank you everyone foring public comment I was going to say mov on to public comment okay well that answers that question too uh so the board has set aside this time for public comment
individuals addressing the board should have one opportunity so if you will be spoken you cannot speak again it be limed to three minutes individuals should not make personal attacks un related to actions effec in the school system and we strongly encourage common courtesy and constructive feedback detail rules and procedures including complaint process outlined in board
policy 2504 I do Scott Richards Richard Green Lake Township um I shut the door earlier because I couldn't hear you guys some of you guys are softspoken so I couldn't that's why I shut the we have to have it open for All State rules
open meetings act just say we can't hear you we'll look at it that's why I did it okay um I'm a v I spent six years in the military and I fought for people to have the First Amendment right so I think all
the Schoolboard people should had a chance to speak in front of the public because that's how I feel you have a you can speak whatever you want even though I don't like the speech but I have to listen to it so that's the what the first amendment's all about I
think the Schoolboard people that applied should have respect to talk in front of the public I also think the public should be able to see their application so the public has a choice in it and
there was nothing about transparency here I mean you guys picked four people and eight people wanted this be on the board being on the board is a great responsibility if these people want to put their time in to give an application
I think the public should be able to see it and I think they should have the chance to speak in front of the public and in front of you as far as your kids my kids are grown my kids are out of school okay but the problem is the younger kids are going to be influenced
in my kids so that's why I think it's a great responsibility and I think everybody should had a chance to speak thank you all right no no other public comment all right then hearing no other public comment uh just again thank you for the
candidates amazing poll um we will go through and redact any personal information they'll be posted with permission um in add to the packet whichever way works for you guys uh with that uh do I have a motion to adjourn
the meeting I move to adjourn the meeting second interrup there you go say go Meeting those say nay meeting adjourned thank you take it