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[Music] [Music] of the morning. Uh, I call this meeting of the board finance and operations committee to order. The committee would like to welcome the audience and viewers may watch the live
board committee meetings online at dcaps.net backboard. Reported meetings may be viewed on demand at the same address. Welcome to May. Um I will open the meeting to public
comment and this well the committee has set aside this time for public comment. Julie, do we have any public comment? Obviously not. Um I would like to on on items that are action items. I know this is going
to be a pain, but I'd like to just do a vote on these if we can. So, I have some recorded record of where everybody stood in case we have questions later on. Um, procedural items, draft committee meeting minutes of April 3rd, 2025. Do I
have a motion to approve the meeting minutes as presented? So moved. Okay. All those in favor say I. I. Those opposed. uh bids and services or purchases. I'm going to defer to Jesse
H. Hotton on the middle school STEM equipment and supplies. Yes, thank you. Good morning. Um so, first I just want to talk a little bit about where this the funds for this purchase are coming out of. The funds for this purchase are coming out of our 99H grant, which is a
grant that we write every year to the state. Um and the state says this grant I aims to provide competitive funding for districts, intermediate school districts and non-public schools to enhance educational opportunities in STEM fields through robotics competition. And then this grant
restricts us that the funds can only be used for coaching stipens which we award each year to our robotics coaches um technology equipment for classrooms and then it supports the registration of their fees. So, know that this purchase
um the funds that we're using to make this purchase, we can't use those funds for anything else but STEM related educational activities and things. Um in case folks were wondering on that amount and Christine, do you have the amount there? I'm sorry. It is 63820, which has
a 10% contingency. Okay, awesome. So these funds are um funds to be used at our middle school robotics programming on both of our uh larger traditional middle schools. Um the teachers there came to me when we knew we had these
funds and needed to spend these funds. These funds also have a restriction. They are not allowed to be rolled over after August or sorry September 30th of 2025. So we have to spend these funds by then or we give them back to the state. Okay. So these teachers came to me and
they said that they really wanted to update all of the robotics materials for two main reasons. Um the materials just themselves were a little outdated and the organization that they live under as the competitions were a bit outdated. They felt that the electronics um were
unreliable and they spent more time trying to fix the robotics and fix those pieces versus teaching and interacting with students. And also there's no local competitions for the robotics that our middle school kids were using. or have been using. So instead, they wanted to
do a full revamp of the funds because we had this kind of chunk of funds that we had carried over from last year and then our new amount allocated that we had to spend allowed us to kind of really explore what else was out there. And so these funds will go towards the VEX V5 version. Um their coding platform is
more seamless, the teachers both say, and they'll be able to make um the switch really well. uh they have there's already an active community right now nearby in Traverse City with different schools that use the same programming so competitions will be easier for our kids and they both really feel that this
amount investing into both of our middle schools will allow our instructors to collaborate um and have programs that are more equitable on at both middle schools. Um, this is run as an elective course for our students and we run depending on the enrollment three to
four to five sections of this robotics at at both middle schools. Jess, what's the total amount of the grant that's available? I mean, how much of this have we now spent? Um, so the way this grant works is we write it for each team in the district that has got
our competitive robotics program. part of the grant is already stipulated for stipens which the district does have to match up to 20 or 25% is the minimum we have to match for that stipen part and then the rest goes to material. So it's like two pieces to the grant. The grant amount that we get distributed every
year varies based on how much money the state has put into that pot and how many schools apply for the grant. Right? So that what we have seen for this pot of money, we actually have seen the total amount decrease the last few years and we've seen more and more schools put in
for the grant. So um this year I would say instead of getting the full $1,500 per coach, we got a little closer to 12 to $1,300. We as a district then compensate then make up for the difference of that. Um, and for supplies, it it really has varied
between some years we'll get a few thousand and then some years we'll get all the way up to 22,000 25,000. But we have this extra funds because we had quite a bit carried over from last year that went unspent. And because of that, I went to the robotics
teachers early on this year and said, "Hey, you guys have like I think $52,000 of that is carryover money um from last year that wasn't spent." and like there's some urgency to spend it by the end of September or we just give it back to the state.
So last year it rolled over and this year it doesn't or is so what will roll over this year will be the allocation we got this year which I think was closer to 12 to 14,000. Okay. Any other questions from the board?
Well, I I mean, I appreciate the equitable educational opportunities, so so thank you. Um and I'm happy to hear that they cover registration fees so that the kids don't need to pay to participate. Correct. The the grant covers that. Y great. And is there any
um goals of bringing this program to elementary schools? Yeah. Yeah, we've John Dr. Van Wagner um and Dan Tyworth and I have talked a lot about that. Um and the elementaryaries can apply for this grant funds too. 99H does extend to
them. It's a smaller amount. Um for those uh there's there's a little bit of us just figuring out all the logistics. We need personnel. It's not built into the day. What's nice about middle school is it functions as a class during the day, right? Where at elementary it's a outside of the day, which then brings us
into some more logistical complications with staffing and stuff, too. But with Dr. Dr. Van Wagner and and Dan and I have talked a lot about how can we bring this into the day for more kids? How can we make this an equitable program? Yeah. Something when we met with the manufacturers association, I brought up
to them about we could use some funding. We could use some help to be able to do that. So Dan and I Dan met with the Lego League. Yeah, I was just going to say I wasn't to have a conversation on on that and trying to see if there's a way for us to establish maybe school teams and
maybe if there's not quite enough at a school to combine to be able to have something. So, that's uh that's definitely what we're exploring. And I did have one uh um local business come up to me said they're willing to do some some and would like to meet. So, we're
going to set that up and do that. At the middle school, these are for credit courses or they're courses that count for pupil accounting purposes. Yes. I mean, credit is kind of a interesting term at middle school, right? Because you don't really acquire credit till the high school, but yes,
they're courses that count. They're like in the VPAA, visually and performing arts category there. Yes. But it's always nice to have more electives for kids, right? You know, like it is an elective, but it's nice to have different electives, a variety of things. Some kids this is like this is
their jam and this is their biggest part of their school day is being able to come and like do things like this. So well and considering we just built these two beautiful manufacturing and innovation labs. Um great to start them younger to then get them interested to
continue into high school. So yeah. And I'm assuming there's continuity between what's taught at the high school level and what the middle school kids are getting. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. All right. Any other questions? You have a motion to move this onto the board. Uh
I move that we uh move this to the full board or move the 63820,000 plus 10% contingency to the full board for approval. Do you have it on consent? Yes. On consent move.
I second that. All those in favor say I. closed. I'm used to voting on this stuff, Scott. Yeah, I know. Thank you, Scott. Just in case somebody wants down the road to know how everybody felt about this. Um,
all right. Technology cell phone boosters. Evan, good morning. Uh, yes. So, first project bringing to you today is um for two different um cell phone signal boost solutions. um one going to be at our West Senior
High um site, the other at our transportation and facilities building. Um what we did is we investigated kind of the problems of really poor cell signal in these areas and looked around at all the different opportunities and and solutions that we can do for what's
essentially basically a cell antenna to install and then pull throughout the building to boost those signals where they're not. Um the West Senior High uh site had a priority because it's also our primary reunification center. So we really wanted to make sure that that central location where you can see
they've designed that map around it um in the packet is to ensure that anyone kind of in the center of that building which is a large dead zone will hopefully be receiving a much stronger cell signal from any provider. This is provider agnostic. Um so that one is a
far more robust um system that will be professionally installed um at the transportation and facilities building. The Wee Boost is another um product that does essentially the same thing. Um it's a little less intensive in terms of the need for a fullblown design. Um, it's
really just an installation and making sure we're putting those antennas throughout the spaces where we feel like there's lack of signal and there's less square footage in those buildings that we're trying to cover. Um, so you see a difference in price there with the Wee Boost solution only being
$17,500. Um, and that's installed. Meanwhile, the Nextivity uh solution that we'll be installing at West Senior High is $89,87.39, which includes the professional installation services and the equipment. Um once both of these systems are installed, there's no
recurring or ongoing costs. It's just like putting in an antenna that hopefully will boost that signal for us moving forward. No need to license anything. Um, and just we get a at least a year warranty on the connectivity for them to come adjust any sort of
directional antenna they might need to point. But they've already done site surveys at West Senior High, so they feel confident that they'll be able to place those antennas, which will be outside the building, bringing that signal in and then broadcasting it throughout that central point of West Senior High, making that a much better
uh cell reception site. So, two different systems hopeful being planned on being installed over the summer. The total purchase uh is not to exceed $117,247, which would include a 10% contingency.
Just for a little bit of background, this is one of the last remaining items that we really struggled with when we had secure education consultants come in and do an overall facility assessment. Um, we've really struggled over the years with how to deal with this cell phone. um uh connections because we
don't own a cell phone tower um and don't have any say in where they're located. We've done a lot of things with adding access points throughout buildings thinking that might help and we've really just come to we need a professional to take a look at this and figure it out. So, this is kind of our segue into kind of phase one of piloting
what we think might work. Um we do have many other buildings that we're going to have to address. East Middle School will be the next one. Um, but as Evan said, this is new and instead of spending a lot of money on something we're not 100% sure will actually solve our problems, um, we thought we'd take a stab at a
couple of facilities that we have the most issues at and we know we're successful how like we'll we'll know immediately because the staff using their cell phones in the building like the principal at West Sior High can't use his cell phone in the building. He
has to exit the building. So, we'll know. That makes sense. It'll work or it won't work. I didn't know it wasn't working. It's It's really bad. And it facilities like, you know, when I'm out there, I have to walk outside to make a phone call. It's really bad.
Are there some minimum performance specs that these folks guarantee in terms of performance? Yeah. So they don't have say a minimum actual number of performance spec but before the installers would leave they would confirm that all the different
carriers are provided uh a boosted signal inside our affected area. So they'll be testing and wouldn't be leaving until they make sure that equipment is functioning properly and that they're actually seeing a signal gain um with those cell services. And there's a guarantee on this. How
long does that warranty on that? It's one year. Correct. Yeah. Uh for the nextity one, it's a one year for all parts and service for them to come out if any of the equipment were to fail, they'll come replace it for free andor if we need any sort of adjustments or or noticing some lag in performance, they
can come out and help us make those adjustments. And if the equipment's not working the way it was specified to, they would replace or upgrade. Yes. Correct. Okay. Find another solution essentially. Right. There's probably this is probably the there's probably
not an upgrade at this point, right? like this is probably I mean short of buying our own cell phone towers and strategically place them we're kind of at the hands of people that actually have those connections to the cell phone towers and what is just I'm catching up what's
the policy at the senior high at west for instance on student use of cell phones oh so much fun Scott let's talk about cell phones what uh students uh at the high schools have to check in check in their
cell phones at the beginning of every hour. We've standardized the process so it's not about one teacher or one classroom. There's a standard, it's the same at all three of our high schools. There's a caddy. The kids have an assigned number. They put their phone up there. The kids can see their phone the entire time. They just can't access it during instructional time. They can have
it in between passing, at lunch, before and after school. Um, and I will say because we educate kids on why and we're really upfront with as long as you follow the policy, you can have access to it at all these points during the day. We've actually found a lot and this year's even been even better and we go
in classrooms and we do counts and stuff and check. It's how some of the um teachers actually take attendance too is like if the cell phone's in the pocket. So um still not perfect. We have kids that you know say I don't have mine today and
and keep it in a bag or whatever. But we're continuing to get better better in reinforcing. It's definitely less with kids going to the bathroom and then like trying to text each other to meet up. It sounds strange, but that was very happened a lot. Or spending 20 or 30
minutes out of class somewhere and then they get on their phone or, you know, so Okay. Could I have a motion to send this on to the full board for approval on consent? Yes. I move to uh move the cell phone
boost solution total purchase not to exceed 117,247 which includes a 10% contingency to the consent calendar. All those in favor say I. I opposed.
All right. You're up again, Evan. I'm up again. Staff laptops. This is a big one. So, we're excited. um about this purchase or our replacement of the staff laptops. Uh we typically try and do a four-year
cycle on a replacement of all of our staff devices to ensure that um their performance is up to standard as well as all the other um pieces we need for us, especially focused on things like cyber security. We've actually pushed this
deployment out um an extra year just due to to funding constraints that we were looking at. Luckily, we've overbuilt the devices. Credit to my team for putting in the specs that they've lasted to this point pretty well, but they are seeing their age. And so, it is time to make
that replacement um with the devices. So, after some extensive testing and actually we called it a staff laptop tour where we went to just about every building and offered um teaching staff and and any other staff in those buildings opportunity to come see which
devices we were looking at for potential replacement. Um, we've landed on, um, looking at the HP Elite X360 Flip laptop, which is actually essentially the same laptop that we have, just the newer version. Um, so it would be an upgrade from the current model, but they'll see very similar kind of specs
and situation. Um, we received a lot of positive feedback from the staff. Um, they like touchscreen. Do not take touchscreen away from any employee. They they love to touch that screen. So, that was something we kept on. These also will still have the ability for their 360, meaning you can flip them all the
way around, turn them into a tablet PC if needed, um, for mobility purposes. Um, but we made sure to look at an updated processor and a a serious increase in RAM to hopefully meet the needs of all the processing that needs
to happen with products. Now, most of the things are online, but as many of us know, when you're running a browser such as Chrome and you have a 100 tabs open, uh you need some serious processing power to keep that going. So, um we're hopeful that we will be able to then uh
deploy these devices and have them last for at minimum another four years, but likely stretching on beyond that. Um what happens to our current devices is those that are still in working order and functioning, we move down to what's
called a level two deployment. So they don't just go away or get e-recycled. We repurpose those and those become devices available for um non-eing staff that don't necessarily have a primary use for a computer uh initially, but we find do need one. Um putting together carts for
mobile usage. So the computers go to waste, they'll be in rotation for us um for a significant amount of time past this for the ones that like I said are still functional and have all their working parts. Um and what'll be nice about that is because they are so similar, they'll integrate with our
existing systems like our docking stations in the classroom and and this current network settings we have pretty flawlessly. So it'll be nice to have both of those almost on the same level. Um, so it's our recommendation to purchase these laptops from Seh High
Computer Products for a total contract not to exceed $2,275,850. This figure includes a 15% contingency um, and will be funded from our technology bond allocation. And the 15% contingency is we don't get guaranteed
pricing until we actually place the order. And there's concern about tariffs. So we increase that just so that we don't have to come back to the board when we actually place the order after the board meeting. All of our new invoices come with the nice little tagline, no pricing is guaranteed due to economic uncertainty
and tariff pricing unfortunately. So So does CI have these in stock right now or they have to order these and bring them in? They will be built to order. They're built to order for us tariffs. What's the estimated delivery time if
you place the order right after the board meeting? Um, no later than mid July and hopefully sooner. Okay, that's good. Summer deployment. Yep. So then we'd be working on getting those final imaged and um opportunities for staff to pick up devices in the summer if they're
available and then as well as scheduling times for as the staff are coming back um in August to swap out their existing laptops with the new ones. Um, but again in the similarities, one nice feature we have too is your old laptop is not going to immediately shut off once we deploy
the new one. So we have, you know, a little bit of leeway there to get all those devices swapped out with staff um when it's convenient. You kind of answered the question, but you're the the goal is every four years you swap these out. Is that right? Sometimes stretch it a little bit longer. Yeah, that's that's our yeah
ideal just with the the typical life cycle of technology and trying to make sure exactly we keep up with that. um this one because like I said, we do try and do a little bit of we call it overbuild to make them a little bit more robust. So, it wasn't um a big stretch to to push them a little bit longer and
we anticipate the same with this model. Um but yeah, in in the perfect world, we can do that new and fresh every four years because we also do plan to use them for a minimum of eight years cuz after their four years as a level one with teaching staff and they we still plan to use them for an additional four
years as a level two device. So we build build them up front with an anticipation of at least an 8year life. Got it. Got it. Got it. Okay. One last question. I know this is hardware, but in terms of the software that then is placed on these, are there new licensing
requirements and expenses that we can anticipate? So there won't be any additional license the the operating system is comes as part of the package of buying the laptop. Um everything else that we're doing right now is already in place in
the sense of cloud-based with our Google products. So we acrew for those costs separately. That's just kind of our constant expenses. We don't anticipate any kind of additional software costs with these laptops at this time that we'll have to incur.
Assuming these are Windowsbased or correct? Yeah. Okay. All right. Any other Well, I just have a I just have a couple comments. I mean, it's it's a big chunk of change, you know, two and a4 million dollars, you know, but I I appreciate the memo and I appreciate to keep up with the demands
of today's technology driven driven curriculum and the positive feedback from staff, you know, and I I really appreciate these memos and I sometimes wonder if the public would also like to read some of these memos because I and it is I think pretty good. So, currently
not shared with the public, but I would encourage us to maybe consider um doing that. Um and my other comment is just a heads up to my colleagues that the sustainability committee may
um uh be bringing a a suggestion to reduce our our paper uh use uh at the board level maybe at administration level. So if there's if any of these other computers need a home like my that's why I have to plug my computer in because it dies all the time. So, if if
any of these older computers are looking for a home, I' i'd take one to help reduce our paper um printing of agendas and and whatnot. But I support this u motion and I'll make a motion to move this on to it's a lot of money. What do you want to do? You want to put it on discussion?
Generally, the past has been I'm only giving you that. What do you want to do, Scott? Million dollars we put on the full agenda for discussion. Okay. Yeah. And I Yeah. And sometimes those things that we do as part of our bond every
time like the bus purchase didn't go on discussion because it's just something that is part of our say I'm comfortable putting this actually on consent just because it is a I mean every you know four or so years this is just a technology thing. I mean like you said anyone that has um technology knows that
they kind of die after a while but I'm comfortable with whatever you guys decide either way. I I am too with consent. You know, if we can include this memo in it so the public can read it in the full board packet, I'd like that. Um so with that, I'll make a motion to move the staff laptop purchase
not to exceed 2,275,850, uh which includes a 15% contingency to the consent calendar. Second. Okay, one last question before we vote. Um I I notice that this is not a competitively bid. This comes out of a
buying consortium. Am I assuming that's correct? It does. Okay. I would also recommend per tai's suggestion. I'm used to with board committees that there the packet is included online so that if the general public wants to see the detail,
they could see the detail. I mean I I don't think anybody normally goes into that but at least that information's there so that if they come and and are visitors they at least have the same information we do in front of them and it's just electronic you know actual for
the actual board meeting it's included in that packet. Yeah that whatever the board members are getting at least it's available to somebody who might want to come. I think there's a different thought here though. So okay we we put it all in there for the board meeting you know from that element for people to come right but generally the committee
meeting we don't because we don't know what you guys if you want to pass it on not this that that's been standard practice but that would be a change to do it in the committee packets. Well I'm I'm just thinking we're sitting with a bunch of empty chairs right now but if
somebody wanted to come to this and had this information they'd at least be able to ask relevant questions if they wanted to. So if we move to the if we move the item to like the consent calendar, it is included to the full board packet. The full board packet. That's right. Or if
we move it to discussion, it's included in the full board packet currently. Yeah. It's just something I'm used if you guys don't do it and it's a hassle to do that. I I'm sitting here talking to Julie. I thought we always did. I had
no idea that the memos were online. I don't because I don't do that part. Yeah. And it seems like it would be more simple just to have one packet cuz I know like Tammy's like which one's for the board and which one's for the like Let me check with Tammy, you know, from that element and, you know, see it from that standpoint. I know like
presentation stuff and I don't know if maybe this one just slipped from that standpoint, but I don't presentation pieces harder because we're usually working on it, but these are usually submitted to Tammy in advance. The reason I bring it up because I think
it's really someone spends a lot of time writing these good memos, Evan, and I'm like, "Well, here's the rationale. Here's the things." And let's just put the way it sounds like there's a pretty decent consensus to put it in. Make sure we'll have them in the in the all of the items for the committee moving forward.
Yeah. I just think that's it's already the argument about I don't understand why you're doing this. So, okay. Okay, we have a motion and a second to move this on to the full board for approval on consent is uh all those
in favor say I. I opposed. Scott, yes. You're not voting. Can you vote, please? You say yes, I did say yes. Okay. I'm writing it down. I should technically if he did it, he still got
out voted. motion carries anyway. Um, okay. Travis Heights classroom audio. Evan again. Me again. Um, yes. So, we're excited about this project as well. Um, in in kind of collaboration
with the fact that Traverse Heights is adding three classrooms this summer, we started to look at um, what those classroom needs were from a technology AV perspective. Um, one of those being the sound. We refer to it as the teacher voice lip system. So, the microphone
that um, not only will broadcast the teacher's voice, so they don't have to yell or or raise their voice to be clearly heard by the students, it also then typically will connect in with um, just the AV audio visual that's going on. So, all the students can hear what's going on on the boards or presented in
front of the class. Um, so in looking at what we were going to do for those three classrooms, um, Traverse Heights in general is in need of an upgrade. Can I just for one second, we have two new board members that don't know the pilots that you've been doing over the last couple years as it relates to classroom
instruction technology and the information you're gathering. I think that would be really helpful for them to know like how we got here. Oh, okay. If you don't mind giving some background on that? I don't mind at all. All right. Um so what Christine's referring to is um districtwide we've we're in need of a
kind of an update with our classroom audiovisisual equipment. Um we're in various states by building on basically when they were built kind of and and refurbished that they might have different equipment in there. So um we decided to bring together a group of teachers. We call them our uh classroom
AV research and development group. So, we put out applications um for teachers across the district to apply to basically volunteer to test um different equipment that we would have installed in their rooms to provide us feedback and and come to a hopeful consensus on
what the next iteration of kind of updating that classroom audio visual equipment would be. Um so that's taken place over this past year. Um where we did install seven rooms. We did seven rooms. Seven rooms. Thank you. Sorry. seven rooms with a variety of different
equipment which the main focuses were the visuals so different types of projectors and interactive panels. um what I just referred to is the voice lift, right? So the audio component of that, different options to upgrade that and really the the only other piece and
it focuses mainly on on elementary was um document cameras kind of the new age replacement for the overhead projector, how they're displaying content up on the board. Um and so like I said throughout that year, we've had those teachers testing that equipment out, providing feedback. We've uh provided
opportunities, open houses for other staff to come take a look at what's going on in those classrooms, hopefully kind of speak to the teachers. We recorded a video to share out so that the teachers in that pilot program could share their experiences with the staff. Um we are going to be in the process of
kind of we've talked to them several times obviously as they still have the equipment in there, but the pilot is essentially over. Um, but they're still obviously using that equipment, but to bring them back and get a again true consensus on the different pieces they feel like are the best fit for the
district so that we can come back to the board and kind of discuss what we would like to do, which will be a pretty big project about doing a cycle replacement of all that classroom AB throughout the district. Um, so that's a kind of our technology separate pet project that
we're very excited about because it's just needed that equipment is needed and upgrades especially in certain buildings that are older. Um, and so as we take these opportunities with say a Trav Heights and new classroom additions, um, as opposed to just putting in the
standard or what we had before, we're trying to make sure that we're falling in line with what the pilot is speaking to, meaning what the teachers, um, wanted to see and what would work well. So, within those three classrooms, we're actually doing interactive panels as opposed to we're we've been doing
projectors and short throw projectors um, to do that. And then also with the voice lift system um we looked at this one from audio enhancement. Um we also looked at a different product called from light speeded systems. Um but with the audio enhancement we got really good
feedback on any new and improved voice lift to be honest. So um we like the um potential growth of audio enhancement for some other security features that can be built onto that in the future as we look at that. um but also just the product itself and how well it works.
And it's simple, right? It's two microphones, uh four speakers, a better amplifier that will uh again lift that teacher's voice so that the students can just kind of pleasantly hear what they're saying and a teacher doesn't have to strain. Um so kind of as
Christine said, that's dovetailed into this. So now that we have this opportunity looking at those three classrooms and with the current state of Trab Heights, we felt like uh we'd be remiss not to just replace the entire building's sound systems in the classrooms. Um meaning the rest of those
classrooms currently have various states of older equipment, some not even in functional order, that we would like to not just bring up three new classrooms with three new voice systems, but also uh push that through the rest of the building. um and also give us a great
kind of first look at what that process will look like. As I like we said, we look at the bigger picture of replacing and doing all the classroom AB throughout the district. Um so what we've landed on for Trab Heights is, as I mentioned, it's audio enhancement
sentinel system. Um we feel like is going to best fit the needs of of what the teachers are doing there. Um, we also acquired this uh using the HPS contract which does satisfy the bid requirements for the state of Michigan. And uh it's our recommendation to
purchase the audio enhancement Sentinel System, which will include installation from AVI systems for a total contract award not to exceed $56,632, which includes a 10% contingency should we need any extra
equipment or or things, but hopefully not. Evan, is this this is for the three new classrooms and the the whole building? Okay. Okay. Okay. I was confused. We're looking at it doesn't we we we like standardization so I don't know why I'm struggling today. Um we
like standardization and so if if teachers move from classroom to from year to year um it's nice to have the same equipment. A couple things to note. I think it's important during the pilot that we were very particular about making sure we had um a various range of teachers as it relates to their
capabilities with technology so that we weren't just getting some highf flyers that are very techsavvy saying this is the equipment we'd like to use. We also made sure that we got some staff that weren't really techsavvy so that we could get their feedback as well. Um, this is something that Evan and I feel really strongly we should be doing for
the whole district. That's a very big price tag that might need to be talked about in the next bond. I'm not sure in his annual allocations he would be able to do that. It's probably at least a half a million by the time we do it. Maybe six 700,000 for the whole district. Correct. Five million. Five million. Five million. Oh, I'm way off.
Yeah, I would say likely a safe estimation to replace the entire classrooms in the district with all the upgraded AP that very much would not be an annual allocation. That would be a district capital project improvement. Correct. And I also will say when they had the pilot classrooms, Evan and I
worked a little bit on when we had largecale PD to be like to know like when we did a a large PD in West Senior High, how do we highlight some of those pilot classrooms? How do we get some of the teachers who aren't involved to go walk through and look at some of that? So, we did a little bit of a combo on
taking advantage of some of those times to try to get as many of our staff as possible to see it even if they're not involved with the pilot. I'll just add that when we do renovations and additions, we we talk a lot and build in the new technology into
our additions and renovations so we're not going back after the fact things. I have a couple questions. Um, if we're looking at a half million dollars and that would in essence do 10
buildings, 5 million. Sorry. No, no. I think he he's just talking about Trevor Heights right now. It's only 56,000. Yeah. But I mean, if I take this and exponentially multiply it for eventually running this districtwide, how do you get to roughly
a half million? I I'm wrong on that. I was wrong. It's five million. Okay, that's five five million is about an estimated cost. We'd have to re taking it times 10 and adding a few and that's not right. Essentially what would happen is um working again like once we
identify that kind of desired equipment um we'll we work to put together a package that our you know estimated cost per room and then we'd take that and multiply it obviously by the amount of classrooms within the district. So, the $5 million is a very rough estimation
from previous conversations. Um, but with cost of things and and anticipating um what we're looking at, it's probably still well within the ballpark. Um, I wouldn't anticipate it being significantly less unfortunately, though I'd love to see that. But yeah, as we meet with those guys, we will actually
be putting together a true kind of like we said, accurate estimation based on room cost. So, we're sort of embarking potentially on eventually a $5 million investment because now we're getting into this
equity issue. That's our goal. Okay. I just want to like the word equity and I don't know I don't want to nitpick about the word equity, but I think what we mean by equal, right? So, you want it to be the same at every building, right?
I look at it more as standardization. Same equipment, all the staff know how to operate it. Our techs know how. I don't want to nitpick, but it comes like we talk about gyms or robotics at both, but we're talking about the same. You know, equity, at least for my seat, has to do with meeting need, right? So, I
just I just want to talk about we want it to be the same in that aspect. I would agree with you. In another aspect, I would give it where it is equity is that we have kids in those classrooms that maybe are, you know, heart of hearing. That's fine. But that's why we want it to be the same. We want it to be the same. It gets to equity when you
have the same of those kids in the classroom having there's a higher need there. Maybe they need extra technology because the need is higher. So we get more and I again I don't that's a I don't want to be a grammar police. I will tell you it's pretty neat. I've had the chance to see a lot of the
demonstrations of this and um you know for kids that you know maybe that can't hear as well or you know rely on that what ends up happening if a kid can't hear as well and they say that to the teacher not to a fault of a teacher but
they end up yelling almost and and the kid that feels like I'm being yelled at. Yeah. You know in that aspect it it it it's really a game changer in the classroom environment. So when you have this and it literally is designed, you know, to make sure that that kid's able
to to do that, it is amazing the difference in the teacher even just having the ability just to talk, you know, and and that element, but yet the kids still be able to hear. It's it's a it's a really neat thing. Yeah. These um audio enhancement companies actually was
founded by a mother of children with hearing disabilities and was designed for that. is a four speakeraker system in the classroom. So no matter where you are in the classroom that voice isn't necessarily just made louder, but it's amplified throughout the room so that no
matter where you are in the room, that sound fills the room. So you can speak just in a normal voice and is not that is really loud for everybody. It's just enhanced throughout the space so that what we have in here because it sounds really good back there. We don't have
the audio enhancement, but there is a speaker. We have we have some things that's not that level. Yeah, it's a different level. [Laughter] I wouldn't bring the audio enhancement people in here, you know, to be honest with you. It's helpful for kids who
don't have a hearing, you know, situation, but very helpful for those who So, I'll make a motion that we go ahead. It doesn't matter. Traverse Heights classroom audio uh for a total contract award not to exceed 56,632 which includes a 10% contingency
to our next board meeting's consent calendar. Second. Okay, two quick questions. One for Paul. Obviously, if we start to enhance audio in a particular classroom, there's going to be sound transfer to other classrooms. Are we at
least accounting for that as we start to build classrooms that there's some ability to soundproof? We have um sound enhancement in classrooms now just not as new capability and the construction
of the buildings. There's some transference you get with open doors and open windows and and that kind of thing, but room to room, it's these systems are built to kind of be self-contained. And kind of speaking off Winnie's point, it's it's not really just a megaphone
made to just blast sound. It really truly does fill the room with the sound of someone just speaking as opposed to having to raise their voice. So, um I think they've come a long way. We've had system we have systems like this in place of of a much lower quality that
still do an okay job and now we're at a point where like we said some of these newer opportunities just do a really nice job teachers who say they've never needed to use one once we give them one we had some of these in the pilot group uh I will not be able to take it away from them right they they will not go
back and then same thing to John's point about with the student it also in addition to maybe not feeling yelled at you don't have to move them just so they can hear so it gives them that flexib ability to be anywhere in the room and feel like they can hear and we don't hear say from the pilot buildings any issues of that sound feeling like it's
it's bleeding over into the other classrooms and and and typically anyway classrooms are designed so that you're not transferring sound from corridors to classroom from class to classroom they're they're designed and built that way and I'm assuming is this a mic
teacher then in other words that's basically what we're talking about this is a two mic system so there's a pendant mic for the teachers that they will wear and then there's also a handheld mic for the students to use in these. So, we keep track of that.
And they've done really well in the pilot classrooms and the teachers really like the fact that the students have their own mic so that they don't have to share the one that they're using so that that can stay with them and then they can hand off and the kids can hand the student mic around and we haven't had
any issues so far with that getting lost. Okay. Well, we have a motion and a second to move this onto the board for approval on consent. Um, all those in favor say I.
I. Those opposed. Okay. Motion passes. Um,formational items, capital projects. You're off the hook, Ev. Good job. I'll be back, I'm sure.
All right, here we are at Traav Heights Elementary. Uh, only thing that we've really got going right now other than the performance management contract. Uh, footings foundations underground utilities are going in. The masons will be on site the end of this week to put
their first course of masonry in so we can um pour interior slabs. Once those are in place, things are really going to start flying. Their steel should be coming in the next um before the end of the month and that
they start erecting the steel. Then you'll see things will just start flying. We're a I don't know how to say it. We're not I don't want to talk about schedule. Yeah, schedule right now. No, you can't turn off microphone. You got
to turn off his microphone. The the nice thing with the classroom additions is if they don't get done before school starts, we can make it work. it's not as inconvenient. The cafeteria, on the other hand, absolutely has to be done before we occupy in September. So, and we're making uh we've gone over the
cafeteria. We're going to actually start the cafeteria before school gets out now because they've done all of this. They're ready to move over to the front. So, we're going through some steps at the front of the building to make sure the students are safe can still uh use
the carline drop off pick up and do some work out front there to get so we can get in there and do footings of foundations and get that piece work going. Uh again, this is this is where we're at here.
And this is two classrooms plus cafeteria. Three classrooms. Three classroom. Three. Three additional classrooms. A work room on the end of the building. There's a couple of rooms getting interior renovations. The music room and the art room wall that separates them is getting done. And then
the music room is being renovated. Cafeteria is being expanded. And John, this is probably something to deal with in strategic planning, but is is this impacted the reason for these additions. Is it open enrollment that's
creating this? It's the indigenous population around the Traverside School. No growing. You know, it's just I think that um it you know, it really is while we have gotten a few school of choice, which is a great thing. You know, this
building when I came five years ago, I can tell you one of our first conversations Christy and I had was worried about keeping the building open. We were at less than 200 kids. Yeah. 170 170 and we're over 300 now. And so, you
know, I think that it's a few things. Um, a testament, I think, to the administrative, the demon staff. I think, you know, Brian and his team have done a wonderful job in that building. Um, I think secondly, um, housing in the in the Traverse Hates neighborhood is
still one of the more, um, I wouldn't use the word affordable ever still with housing here, but, you know, entry level um, housing that's available um, in the in the area. So, so you just are getting more families with kids, you
know, I think in the in the in the boundary within Traverse Heights. Um and so you know all of that together um also with um you know we we've been fortunate to get some increased capacity for staff
with with mental health with you know um all of the different uh needs that our kids have in all of our buildings but especially Traverse Heights. There's just not a single spot, cubby, anything left in that building to to put anybody.
We've, you know, we've even had to think about taking part of the media center and having staff in there, you know, to be able to absorb. So, it is just with that growth, it is just continuing to have that need for that space.
At one point, we had the shared space with the ISD and still do and it's it's not really shared. They own half of the building um because they did the construction. So, and they just added on to add two years ago. Years ago. Yeah, they added on. They also
expanded the parking lot as part of that that project because they're I didn't realize they actually owned part of it. So, we can't really move them out. No. To another. If they don't own it, it's like aundred-year lease. So, essentially, they own. This kind of goes back to that thought
about you know that building really doesn't I mean you could go into the woods more but you know from a and how how big do you want it you know like you know in the future Oak Park sitting there is a conversation for the board to
have you know and so there's just a lot you know that the the fraier buildout that is Traverse Heights boundary um you know and what's happening out there that could impact that you We'll see in a few years what that ends up meaning you know for us. So a lot of
whatifs in the future with that said it may be strategic planning. I just was curious. We're also running some special programs there. So we have two classes that are overseen by NMCAA. We have a Head Start and a GSRP that they run. We also have an ECSE program there. So, um,
that's a few classrooms with, you know, lower numbers of students, but those program programs are helpful because a lot of those students are residents of Traverse Heights ECSC. Um, early childhood special ed special. Sorry,
bug get you. Yeah, we we actually have a document of acronyms that we could share. Tried to start creating that over. They can't help ourselves every two years. That's one every meeting. Um the only other real construction we have going on right now is the
performance management project. Um lighting, uh plumbing, the building envelope work is done except for some punch list stuff to go around and check there. That continues on and that's going to be going on for quite a while. Boiler replacements will be starting
soon with the shutdown of the boiler systems around the district. So, this is part of the train contractor. Okay. Train performance management contract. And this is strictly for your entertainment. Um Julie's got to run
it. Hit the full screen there. Little time lapse of the project out at West Senior. So, while this is going on right now, um, waiting for the end of the school year for these projects to start, they're under contract as the renovations out
there at West Senior High for the pedestrian and circulation improvements, the West Senior High restroom project, uh, and the, uh, relocation of the Northwest Ed classrooms within West Senior. We're also waiting uh, for school to get out to do locker
replacements at Blair and Corteade. And then there's bleacher replacements around the district at at different locations. Uh the biggest one being at East Middle. Uh we're going to be starting the uh storage facility at maintenance here shortly. Uh kickoff
meetings next week. And then in design right now of course is Central grade, Central High, the Sabin renovations and all the music programs are on the boards right now. Can you talk a little bit about your planning meeting for Western High Circulation and what what that's going to look like in the coordination with
the county and the lights? Sure. Right now, u the county had gotten a a grant from I'm not sure where they got it from, state or federal to replace the lights, uh at Long Lake and Herner,
Hartner Road right there, the dual light system. And it was a safety grant u issue. They've been trying to get rid of the second light there for a long time. So, we're coordinating with them. They're going to do that piece of the project and work while we redo the
entryway. Right now, this summer, I wish I had a slide for you that could show the plan, but I do, but I can't get it up there. Um, see if I can have Julie pull it up. They u we're going to use the eastmost entrance off of Long Lake
is going to be the in andout this summer. So, it's going to be two-way traffic on that side and then the main entrance that goes in on the west side right now, it's going to be closed to all the construction traffic. And that's going to wait, it's going to be that way all summer. So, and we'll have all kinds
of signage out there and the county is going to redo the lights, the controls on them for us while the project's going on so that it it directs traffic that way as well. Uh and then as we get through this into the summer, at the end of the summer when school starts again
in the fall, that main entrance to the west will be the only entrance off of Long Lake. The other one will be completely closed and we'll have traffic routed in and it'll circulation will still be the same as it is now. You go in and around to the well around to the
right. So change direction. Yep. But we've got it all mapped out and it's going to be a two-phase project. So, we'll do the second phase of this, which is the east side of the campus
next year, next summer. That's the Cedar Run. Is it Cedar Run Road? We're not touching that out there. Cedar Run and that that stays the same. When you come in from the backside where the athletic fields are, eventually that roundabout will be gone. That'll just be a T intersection.
And then um the first phase of this is the west side parking areas, parent drop off, all of that. And the concept was is just we were deathly afraid of trying to chew too much and have it go into the school year and with you know the rate
that we we've had with construction do half this summer while we have the ability and get into school year and then the following summer do the other half of it. Paul, I was at Trevor's Heights yesterday and I saw on the preschool playground a sign talking about the
energy efficiency and the dollar amount that we're saving annually which I believe was somewhere around 380 grand a year is which I thought was great because I stopped and read it because I didn't know. Um is that happening at at our other buildings signage like that? We have eight signs up. Yeah, sorry that
I worked on that one with Rian. We have eight signs up. They had the option to um put a sign at every building, but we really struggle with any ground mounted signs. So, I'd asked them for the fence signs. Yeah, I I like I don't like the ground. Excuse me. It was really nice. I
just thought I stopped and read. So, wherever we could put one on a fence that you could actually see it, we have one on 13th Street here. Okay. So, wherever it made sense that it was actually visible, we put them up. So, we worked with trying to get them. I appreciate that. 380 grand a lot every year. Oh, okay. Those are the train
signs. Yes, train sides. I saw a trains logo on there, so maybe they were paying for it, but anyways, they didn't I'm sure we did, but you know, either way, yeah, I liked it. All right, being further from Paul. Oh,
that's me. Thank you. I just question on Trevor sites. There used to be a tags softball program that ran over there. Is that still operating? Still there. We had to relocate their shed in that when we expanded the parking lot two
years ago. Oh yeah. But the fields are still there. Finance Christine. Yeah. I um I don't really have anything which is a good thing because I can't seem to make good words today. So there we you know we got an update from
MSBO with a link for some updates from the Senate and House. There's no information there. So, um I I don't know if you've heard anything different, John. I mean, the Senate came out with their version and I think it's got problems. Um because they're going off
of revenues that were anticipated months ago and with tariffs and all that, I think there's a whole lot of question marks. So, there will be what's called the May consensus revenue uh conference on May 16th, I think it is. I don't
expect the House to come out with their version until after that. U but you know I' I'd love to tell you that the Senate one is real. I mean they have more money in the foundation than the governor had. They put 50% more in at risk. They um
put another good chunk in school safety and mental health. I mean all the things they did were great things. I just I think there's a lot of questions out there whether that kind of revenue is available. So, you know, I wouldn't it's nothing to base a judgment off of right
now, unfortunately. So, once we I think once the the crack happens in May, that's what they will base their target numbers for the actual budget on. So, I saw something in the paper yesterday.
Was it MEA? Somebody's proposing something that would create more income for teachers. That is the Senate version. has has, you know, components of that in it. Um, smaller class sizes and smaller class sizes. So, it, you
know, it just it depends on how it all rolls out. And again, the revenues, you know, it's a billion dollars more than last year's budget. And I think a lot of people are going, "So, you think we're going to have a billion more than we had a year ago?" You know, April's revenue was
down. April's revenue was down. And so I think that's what I say. I think that, you know, and and I could tell you from, you know, talking to some folks in Lancing yesterday, I think it sounds like there was an internal debate within the Senate to do this or not do this. And I think that it was mixed, but they
wanted to make a statement of their supports of what they want to see supported, but I think they recognize that some of the numbers and the revenues that were put in are not realistic. Was this along political lines, too? was it primarily well the
Senate's controlled by the Democrats and so you're the leadership and the chairs are are Democratic you have Republicans control the House and so we've seen the governor's version and and the Senate version and you know has a lot more money than the governor's version and
the governor's version was based off of an economy four months ago. So I just like I said I I will not feel comfortable till after Kraken kind of seeing what that is said and and if the house version kind of comes I think that their revenue will be I think more in
line now what their um what their um priorities are you know maybe questionable from that standpoint or maybe they're the same you know but and then from May through hopefully the end of June they'll debate it and get us a
budget. it. But, you know, and then the other piece that's mixed in this still is a roads package that is literally it's it's it's confusing things all up completely because it and all of that conversation, it changes the
revenue stream of what fuels the literally the the the school aid fund from fuel tax that the House speaker wants to remove and replace that school funding with just regular general funds from the tax base which has some people
nervous because it's more of a fluctuating revenue stream. So we'll uh so the overall goes back to you know keep watching and we'll see you you know sometime midday to maybe see if we
have a little bit clearer picture. So we'll talk at our next board finance and operations about some of the assumptions we'll take because we will have to adopt a budget before we know anything. um we prepare documentation in our books, you know, at least a month in advance of the the board meeting. So, um we'll have to
adopt a budget and we'll we'll share with you what our predictions are and what we feel comfortable with as far as risk. On the topic of um budgets and money, I was lucky enough to attend the missionbased budgeting process. Wes was there with Trafford's Heights. And I
would encourage Scott and Sarah and anybody any of us our colleagues who have never attended one of those meetings to do so is very very good. I learned a lot in 45 minutes. Um so thanks for being there Wes. Yeah. Thanks Wes.
I keep saying that. He was everybody anytime somebody had a question like ask. Wes had the number like like like Rayman just boom. That's Wes. All right. upcoming district purchases. Miss Thomas Hill. Yes. So, I always like
to review this so that if there's any concerns from board members, we know in advance before we start working on projects. Um, a couple of changes I think that will take place. So, obviously the May ones are in front of you today. Um, Sabin renovations that's actually going to come to July board.
Unfortunately, um with the July holiday with Memorial Day and getting bids out and making sure they have enough time to bid on things, um we're going to push that to the July, I think 14th board meeting. Um the Traverse City High School Bridge updates, Paul is bugging
uh Gaz, is it Gosling or Edmonson? Uh both. Okay. He he's pushing them to get us um renderings of the fix. So, we do have some erosion issues in the in the creek. Um and we need um uh civil documents and structural documents to to make those changes which we need to do
over the summer. So we're pushing them on that involve eagle too. It will so we don't have an estimated cost for that. We're still working on engineering and renderings. Um virtual infrastructure servers sounds super exciting and Evan will be bringing that
in June or July. Virtual you can't use will you be here in person or virtual? I mean, maybe just stick with the theme, not virtually. You'll be here in person. Uh, Central um, high school greenhouse. We already went out for bid. This one
actually costs substantially more than what was originally anticipated. We did receive a grant. We've applied for Did we submit the application yet for the new grant? I turned it over to Is that the T is that the TC? Yes. The unfortunate thing with that is their
determination time is a couple months out. So, you know, we may may need to have a conversation about how long the contractor is willing to hold the pricing and if if we're willing to frontload that and get the grants after the fact. So, we'll need to probably talk about that soon. I asked Paul just yesterday to reach out to the contractor
to see how long he'd hold his pricing the the low bid. Um, so working on uh some more funding for that and I do know that they uh Central High School reached out to the original grant provider to see if there was more funds available in that grant. So, we're we're working on
that. the elevator upgrades. Um Paul's been digging into this uh with the facility staff and I think there's it's not going to be anywhere near 250,000, but we're working on it. There's some new requirements that come into play, I think by 2028. 2028 that that we're trying to work on. So the deadline, the
only one that we have to do immediately or right away this summer is put phone lines into the uh in their man lifts. They're not full elevators. They're the lifts at West Middle School. That's going to cost about $8,000. So, we'll work on the others if there's safety features that have to be added, but it's
not an immediate cost. So, that one probably will go down to the bottom of the list, but stay with a a TBD as far as timing goes. Um, we're going to have some renovations here at Glen Lumis uh to get ready for Central High School. We need to do Central Middle School or Central Elementary. Great. Wow. Can
somebody else just do this? Hi. Um, for Central great to come over. So, we need some kitchen renovations. it hasn't been operated as a kitchen in quite some time. Um and uh making sure that we're able to um house the number of students and provide uh the level of
service that the food service provides. Um and then also Central High School the Fwing renovations to house curriculum superintendent and communications. Um it it will be minor much like we did here with some temporary offices. Um it it won't be as substantial, but same thing is here. We we need to tear down the
temporary offices here. We need to build new ones over there so that we can um house staff over there. Uh bottle filling stations. This is a big one um that Ran's been working on. We have a lot of new requirements coming through as it relates to um lead testing and uh
requirements of having uh drinking water available. Um there's ratios now that are um it's kind of ironic. I saw this coming as soon as we had our first session on this, but um they have a requirement uh 1 to 100 students. So, you have to have a drinking bottle
filler in the building and it doesn't there's no um rhyme or reason as to where it's located. You just have to have them available. So, if you have 300 students, you have to have at least three of them available. Well, the the law actually says that you have to have one to 100 occupants. And and I've challenged them all along. How could you say that's just students when we have
staff and volunteers? And so, now they're going back to no, no, no, it's occupants. So, now all of our Ann's ratios are changing and she's still working on that. Um, we've gotten one grant already to help provide some equipment. Um, the unfortunate thing is there's this is an unfunded mandate that
we're, you know, it's great. Um, it's great to move this way. We already have a lot of things in place and a lot of bottle fillers anyway. Um, it's just going to be a big chunk of money because installation most likely will not ever be funded by the state. So, um, and in some places, you know, you have to get
electrical, you have to get water. Um, so that that's something she's working on. Um you might well um Eric and Tai might recall we did have our working plan um already I shared with board finance uh quite some time ago that we have our working plan ready to go that
was required I think by the end of January of this year um and that's an ongoing working document that's live anybody can look at. Um but we're just we're really trying to get more guidance. Eagle is not really clear. It's it's one of those things that legislatively became a requirement and now they're trying to work out the
logistics and so it's it's a challenge. Is this the combination drinking fountain bottle filler that you're talking about? Okay. And then everyone we install, there's ADA requirements. So, it's just it's not just so simple as add bottle fillers to
your building so you have enough for your occupants. So, and the lead testing, we we're going to have to go through every classroom um and um most likely cap off um the actual bubblers that are in the classroom and make those handwashing stations only. Um because
every station that is consumable, any any station that's consumable has to be lead tested every year. And we simply don't have the staff to do that if we have consumable water in every classroom. So, we'll be uh capping off any uh bubblers and providing signs that
indicate that the sinks are just for handwashing. And that's a thing, too. Signage is required. It's a pretty big package. So, that's that's one of the big projects that uh Ryan is working on. And she's getting one of her team members actually certified to be a tester, a water lead tester. So, we have
somebody in house. Yeah. And then the difficult part that Christine is is just kind of not skipping over, but legislation for this doesn't agree with building code on these issues. There's they fighting each
other, right? So it makes it even more difficult. It's a it's a challenge and a lot of districts are just kind of waiting it out because at this point there's nothing to be held accountable to and we're waiting for that final answer of what exactly are we supposed to be doing? you don't really want to jump the gun and start replacing things
because even the type of device is being deate debated. So, um you certainly don't want to go ahead and get your ratios up and then find out all of the bottle fillers you put in actually don't meet the requirement because there are requirements on the filler itself. So, it's a challenge. It's it's kind of a wait and see, but also we're just trying
to keep up with what we need to do. Um we over the summer I know that um Ryan hired some bus drivers to do an audit. We have to actually have an audit of every single place water is provided. Even our um slap sinks and our custodial closets will have to have a handwashing
station only, not consumable. So, it's a very big project. Um West Middle School renovations. We have our first meeting at West Middle School with the principal and the staff to actually start design on May 5th. 5th. Thank you. Um and then uh
Central High School renovations, the architect team is starting design and we'll get our user group um back together once they have some things to actually take a look at and provide feedback. Central grade renovations, same. Uh the architects are working on uh some of the things we discussed with some partial demo and how much square
feet we actually need to fit what we need to fit on the first floor. So they're working on that. Uh before we get any user groups together, we'll we'll get some actual concepts and designs together that we can actually provide feedback on. But I did uh provide some timing as to when we think it's coming to bid. So you
guys have a sense for obviously we'll provide updates along the way. It won't just wait till we go to bid and then surprise you with what that number looks like. We'll be providing updates as we go. And just to be clear that the central high school innovation that that that 20 million is phase one. It would
be this bond. There's no of this money but phase one just for us like two phases. Um I think the other phase was and the team is comfortable working that way. Obviously we would like both phases approved and just planned that way. We have charged the architects with providing uh renderings for both bases
so that it's seamless and we're not necessarily building something where it shouldn't go. 20 million for and then just to be the music the west middle 2 million and I know you have a meeting meeting about it but that does not include the extra space that may or may not happen and that you it's the
original estimate of how much square feet we think we need. That's why it says estimated cost. So I get it and it can subject to change. Yep. Okay. Thank you. So that's where we're at. I I we try to um encourage everybody to get things on here so that you know it's coming several months in advance. So if you have questions or are concerned
about a project, we know before we start any kind of design or any of these. All right. Any other items? You do a second public comment. I take it. Nope. I guess we need a motion to adjourn. Uh
sometimes we announce the next meeting or we announce the next meeting. Not telling anybody. And then and then you adjourn or Oh, you're asking for a motion to adjurnn. Okay. Well, or we can just adjourn. I know Robert Schwel order doesn't require
I don't think what you're doing. The next meeting uh will be Thursday, May 29th, 2025 right here at 8:15 in the morning. Now, are we ready to say thank you? We're