Good evening. >> Good evening and welcome to the regular commission meeting for January 20th. Thank you. Good evening and welcome to the regular commission meeting for January 20th,
2025 or 2026. I'd like to call this meeting to order. Now, if we could please stand for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> State clerk, would you please call roll? >> Good evening. Commissioner Clark >> here. >> Vice Mayor Vazquez >> here. >> Commissioner Sison >> here. >> Commissioner Dicki >> here. >> Mayor Doctor >> here. >> Thank you.
All right. >> Ann, may I be recognized? >> Sure. >> I just wanted to address everyone. Um, you're good. >> Yep. Okay. I just wanted to address everyone at the beginning of the meeting. Um, I was not here at the last meeting. Um, unfortunately, I had an
accident back in December and it has caused some pretty serious um, issues and um, so I'm just going to ask that you be patient and forgive me if I have to stand up and sit down during the meeting. I will be as little bit as
small of a disruption as possible and excuse me if I have to step out for a little bit but I am committed to um fulfilling my duties here. So I'm here for the duration. So thank you so much. >> Thank you. And now uh we have the
approval of regular and workshop agendas. There is no workshop. >> Do we want to add H8 and H9 since they're in a budget to the consent agenda? I don't have an issue with that. If >> I'm fine with that >> people would like to do eight and nine
on the consent agenda. >> I think I'm good with that. >> Okay, great. >> And I would like to also say something. Um I think that we should turn off uh our cell phones and put them away. I know early on we agreed not to send and receive text messages throughout the
meeting. So I put mine in my bag. So I don't know if the rest of the commission would do the same. >> Great. I think we have that taken care of. >> Thank you. Appreciate it. All right, moving on. Proclamations, recognition, certificates of appreciation. The first one, D1, is
recognition for our employees that were the employees of the year for 2025. >> Hi, good evening. My name is Jessica Zamora. I'm the HR director and risk manager, and it is my pleasure to be able to announce the employees of the year. Uh just to let everyone know though very quickly, what makes this
award so special is that these uh award winners were nominated by their peers and by their supervisors but ultimately were chosen by their peers uh through the safety committee. It's something that we do every year. Uh we recognize employees who have gone above and
beyond. Um these three employees were among so many who were nominated which is fantastic. So it was a very very difficult decision for the safety committee uh when it came right down to it reading through every single nomination and then ultimately having to
make that very very tough decision. So I would like to begin um with our field. We have one for field one for administration and then one for uh public safety. So I'm going to start with our field employee Jason Pagano. come on up.
>> So, here's your award. Stay with me for just a moment. So, Jason is our beach maintenance technician um in public works, and he was nominated by his peers for going above and beyond um for his and other departments. So, he is always being recognized by other departments
for how much he helps everyone out. He gets to know everyone. He checks on his crew and he has a great attitude. And one of them even said that make sure that she eats lunch. So, um, but also though, today is Jason's birthday. So, if I can please get a big happy birthday, Jason.
>> Thank you. >> All right. Next up in administrative and office is Tia Payton. >> Where is Tia? So Tia is our records coordinator and deputy city clerk and she's being recognized by her peers for having stepped into the role as interim city
clerk uh while the city was recruiting for that vacancy. Tia was fully responsible for daily operations of the city clerk's office, responsible for running the meetings, completing and publishing the agendas and responding to all public records requests. And I was able to work very closely with her during that time. And I could not have
asked for anyone better to have stepped into that role as interim city clerk. So, thank you very much, Tia. And last but not least, for public safety, I would like to honor Master Police Officer Mark Douglas. So, Master Police Officer Mark Douglas
is being recognized by his peers for many achievements. He's described as a superior officer and investigator with an emphasis on drugrelated investigation investigations. one of which led to a vehicle seizure that's now being used by parks and recreation. Uh he has also
opened several unlicensed contracting investigations and this is not an area that's common for officers. He's a trusted field trainer and already established a pillar is already an established pillar of the department all in under two years. So we very much thank officer Douglas for being with us.
>> Thank you very much. And if if we could if we could just >> have the three >> a quick photo opportunity here. >> Yes. >> All right. If our employees of the year would come on up.
>> All at one time. >> All at one time. Yeah. Go ahead. >> Great. Thank you. All right. We also have to this evening a pinning ceremony for firefighter Jordan Dalstrom.
Promotion to fire lieutenant. Mayor Commission. On behalf of the fire chief, Chief Bars, the Treasure Island Fire Department is proud to announce the promotion of firefighter Jordan Dalstrom to the rank of Lieutenant effective December 15th. After more than eight
years of dedicated service, Lieutenant Dstrom consistently demonstrated exceptional skills, uh, leadership potential, and commitment to our community. He serves as our president of our association. He represents Treasure Island at our county level marine
operation classes, our um team where most of those are chief level officers. Um he serves as an instructor instructor for Penelis County EMS. He we look forward to continued success as he takes on his responsibility as station 24
shift company officer lieutenant. Joining Lieutenant Dstrom tonight for this ceremony is his wife Sadi, son Elijah, and his father Brian Dalstrom, Lieutenant from St. Pete Beach Fire Department. >> Very nice. >> Yep.
>> That's awesome. We like we like to have Yeah. a photo opportunity here. So, and uh with family can come up. Thank you. Thank you. >> That's all pictures. >> That's a fun part. Thank you, sir.
>> Nice to meet you. Too late. >> Hey, Jason. Jason, >> would you please see if there's anybody out there that would like to come in and join us? All right, let's uh let's get started. started. We're uh our next item is a
public comments for non-aggenda items. And um we're going to be going to five minutes. We're going to test out five minutes from the three minutes and see how how it works. Um and uh what I'd like to do is call Commissioner Kathleen
Peters. Mayor, it's good to be here. Um, I want to talk to you about the People's First program for Penelis County. So, Penelis County received a lot of federal money to help people after the disaster. And what we're finding is not enough people
are applying. And so, I thought if I went to all the commission meetings along the beaches, I could talk to everybody. And and a lot of people think that because of income or something, they're not going to qualify. But I'm going to encourage people to apply anyways. Um because there just may be
opportunities at the end that maybe something could be done. Um and so I just kind of want to go over just really quickly. Um the people first hurricane recovery program will help Penelis County residents still struggling with unmet housing needs and financial needs
caused by the hurricanes. These programs are all about helping the homeowners and the renters recover from the hurricane damage and avoid long-term displacement and find safe, affordable housing. And if you've been rejected from other programs like FEMA or Elevate Florida or
homeowners insurance or you haven't received enough assistance to complete your recovery, you may qualify for this program. So don't think that you may not qualify. Try anyways. and when you get a case manager, meet with them and see if
there's something that that we could do. Um, the first five programs are aimed at getting help as quickly as possible. We already have started distributing checks by Christmas. We started to before Christmas, we started distributing checks. We're trying to get the money to the people. The county could have chosen
to do infrastructure, but we thought it was much more important to give it to the people and help them recover. So, that's what we plan on doing with with all of the money. but we need you all to apply. So, um, additional programs are going to be rolled out in the future,
um, including a small business and nonprofit recovery program and a local infrastructure mitigation program. So, I'm going to leave um, these handouts at the table over here if that's okay, mayor, >> um, for someone to grab them, but it's at um,
panelis um, visitreover.panelis.gov gov for all the program information. And so if you were displaced and had to live in an RV or pay rent, you can get reimbured for your rent because flood insurance doesn't cover that. So many people had I'm not speaking to the
everybody here knows, right? Um and let's say you have a family member who's never bought a house before and these monies that the county has is for 23 cities and the county. Um not St. Petersburg. St. Petersburg got their own
award. So, you may have a family member that is in a position for the first time to buy a house and the county will give up to $80,000 for the down payment to help them as a first-time home buyer. So, there's a lot of programs here that can really help people recover. Um, and
I want you to not be afraid and think, "Oh, I'm not going to qualify because of income." Regardless of what the income is, please try and fill out the application. Um, when I questioned the county administrator, they because they know I live in Treasure Island, so I was
a little specific and they told me they projected that more than 20% of the residents would qualify even under the income. So, if you think you don't qualify, try it anyways and let's just see if we can't get you extra help. Um,
I I chose not to elevate my house yet, but I'm looking at these programs. Boy, and you know, maybe if I can get $375,000 to raise my house, I might consider doing it because I know I wouldn't qualify at at Elevate Florida. So, um, so there's there's a lot of
opportunities here. Um, up to $80,000 home buyer assistance, and you may have children living with you that have never bought a house that could do that. Um, the local landlord program. So, if you have rental units, um you can get up to $375,000 to rehab
those rental units if they had damage um or get reimbured for it. Um the homeowner rehabilitation construction program is up to $375,000 to rehabitate, rebuild, or relocate your house. Um $50,000 in re reimbursements
for repairs that you've already completed. and then up to $15,000 for related expenses like the RV or rent or something like that that you had to pay. So, I'm going to leave this over on the counter and I'm hoping that some of you that have not applied will consider
to doing that. Just look into it. Um, try. It certainly doesn't hurt to try. Um, and I think we all have been through plenty. Um, and if we can get any kind of assistance, I think it's welcome. So, I just wanted to drop by and and talk
about this because we really expected a lot more applications and we just haven't gotten as many as we expected and we certainly want to make sure all this money goes to the people. Um, so that's that's our goal. Thank you very much. which I appreciate. >> Thank you, Commissioner.
>> Carrie Hourbach. >> Hey everybody, Carrie Hourbach, Treasure Island Adopted Beach. That's some great news. Um, some more great news for you. As part of the volunteer Florida grant that was won by Keep Penelis beautiful,
um we are having a um a planting event. And just to tell you really quickly about why native plants are so important, a friend of mine who lives on Sunset Beach, part of the reason her house had 2 in of water instead of four and 5T is because of the plants that she
planted outside that saved that that saved her home. part of the reason. I mean, I'm sure there were other um uh reasons, but um her property sustained very little damage. So, um as part of the grant, Pete Penelis Beautiful, June
Savers of Treasure Island in St. Pete Beach and the city of Treasure Island invite you to an interactive and educational event. Um native plants um it's uh Saturday, fe February 21st at the community center. It's free free
parking and we've invited local nurseries to share information that you can use when planting or replanting your property so that they're salt, wind, and flood tolerant and provide pro protection and resiliency to your property. Choosing the right Florida
native coastal plant can accomplish all of this. So remember, it's free, free parking, Saturday, February 21st, 10 to 12 at the community center. Feel free to bring photos of your property because the designers will be there to help you look at your property and say what
plants will be good for your specific um needs. And um that's it. I too also have some flyers if you want to grab one and I'll be back to talk about it again in another few weeks. >> Thank you, Carrie. >> Mike Brady.
Good evening. Mike Brady. I live at 119504 Street East on Isisle of Capri. And I I just want to address what's going not happening in this city. Nothing is happening in this city. We don't have any buildings going on.
um our major owners of properties that were damaged aren't doing anything and I think we need to address that. I don't think the master plan is going to
address anything. I think uh PDS will address it. We're the only city in Penllis County that doesn't do PDS. We need to do something because we look like a nuclear bomb went off here and
it's going to happen for a long time unless we change things. And I think we need to have the commission work together to solve this problem. We can't do it if
there's this constant aggravation going on in the city right now. We need to all work together because we need to get something done cuz nothing is happening and I want to see something happening. Uh we need a new public
safety building. We need the pump station to be replaced. The ma master pump station needs to be replaced. We're not doing anything. And all I hear on Facebook and next door is a bunch of bickering. And I I I'm
quite frankly very tired of that. I think we need to do something in the city. Get things going. Get our owners uh developers in here. Get things built. Right now, nothing's going on. We've got
the Gator property has been there empty with the exception of the restaurant for I've been here for over 13 years. It's been empty for 13 years and empty long before that. And they haven't done anything. And we've had
that 50 over one for a long time. They haven't done anything with that property. There's a reason they haven't done anything with that property because they can't make any money under our current restrictions. And the same things going on on 107th. Same thing's going on over here with the Thunderbird.
Uh we look at um the Tahesian looks like it's abandoned. I mean, we've got this all up and down. Go through the neighborhoods. Look at the houses out there. I mean, it's terri. I look at my own neighborhood. There's across from me,
there's three. They're not They're semi-abandoned. I mean, they keep the yard up, but they're abandoned. Nothing's happened. Windows are open, doors are open. Nothing's going on. We got to do something about this because if we continue with this, it's going to
be years and years and years of nothing happening. So, I implore everybody, please work together. Let's do something to build our community back. That's all I got to say. Thank you, Mike. And uh and you make
sense a lot of sense. Mark Hoey. Uh good evening, Mark Hoey, District 3 and Mr. Sison still doesn't share my values. Before I begin, let me say that I understand that the city looks to support new commercial development in
order to bring in more tax revenue, aiding where appropriate, but that's not what is happening in this case. Let me bring to your attention a proposed high and dry boat storage facility planned for the club property at 400 Treasure
Island Causeway. The proposed structure is roughly the size of a football field, three stories tall, and located within 25 foot of the neighboring residential properties. Under current zoning, the property has already reached its maximum
residential density. In May 25, a Begans real estate agent contacted the city to ask what could be built there. The community development director at that time confirmed that no additional residential development was
permitted under the current zoning. Despite this, in June, the property owner, Tavico Properties, submitted plans for the massive three-story tall boat storage facility, an incompatible use that cannot be built without zoning
relief or regulatory changes. In August, at the direction of county commissioner Chris Lvala, Jackie Toledo, former state representative, now representing the property owner, contacted the then newly
appointed community development director, Bobby Sha Lee. From that point forward, efforts to advance the project took place outside formal or public review process. Bobby Sheay worked to explore potential
workarounds for the project despite the property's full density status. Updates were shared with Vice Mayor Tammy Vasquez and a small group within the CDD. Notably, the city's economic development director and district 3 commissioner
were not informed. Over the following weeks, loopholes were sought through state and county agencies without a public hearing, formal application, or public notice. In October, Jackie Toledo divided Bobby Shea and Tammy Vasquez to a
teleconference with the property owners and state representative Linda Cheney. No other city officials were included. More recently, Tammy Vasquez requested that this property be excluded from the city's proposed future master planning
process where it clearly belongs. Why this matters? The project cannot be developed as proposed under current zoning and does not res represent the highest and best use of the property as located in a residential area. Instead
of directing the developer toward a compatible use or a public reasonzoning process, Bobby Shay and Tammy Vazquez assisted a politically connected applicant through a parallel non-public process.
After this project became public after the last committee me a commission meeting Jackie Toledo was told why she could not be placed on the upcoming P&Z agenda. She could present during public comments without prior public notice and
with no time limitation. During her presentation, Jackie Toledo stated the surrounding community had been informed on this project. That is inaccurate. On December 18th, the presidents of the two neighboring condominium associations
representing 154 TI taxpayers emailed Bobby Sha seeking pro project information and instead were referred to Jackie Toledo who has yet to contact them. I raise these concerns because transparency, fairness, and adherence to
established process are essential for the public trust and those principles were not upheld in this case. Evidently, shared political connections are more important to gain development plan approval than the concerns of Treasure
Island taxpayers. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mark. Robert Bazo. >> Robert Bazo, right? >> Yep. >> You want to dance? >> Hi, Robert Bazo. District 1. I really
want to be uplifting. Okay. I mean, and and and seeing these employees that were honored today really gives me great hope uh for the city. And I have to tell you, I I normally don't agree with Mr. Brady at all. um except uh I did agree with almost everything he said except the
master plan first and then the PDS. Other than that, Mr. Brady is spot on. Um so there is some good news here and I'm using the pickleball courts uh as an example of the power of the private sector and the government working together. Um
it took us two years to get here and this uh private company is just hit the ground running. It took them four days to demolish. They're I mean ahead of schedule. they're doing great and again it just shows the power of what the private sector can do if we give them
the power and the authority to do that. Now it took us two years to do it and that's fine but we followed the right process. Uh one district one resident had said um you know really one of the most inane comments I ever heard was that look the board um the board can
vote for pickle ball but not for shades of roselli. I mean, one of the one of the dumbest comments somebody ever made to me and I tried to educate them that we followed the process, the budgeting process, you know, we had some residents, we identified a requirement, we formed a group, we got sponsored, 100
people, we went to the city, we got involved with Victor, we got involved in the budgeting process, and we got a job done. I mean, it's an example of how we can really get things done in the city if we all work together. a fantastic story and thanks to Kathy and uh it's
nice to see something bu being built some dirt being moved again again kudos. So I do think that there are some good things happening here if we work together. Um there is one note I'd like to say is that you know I wanted to say things about you know recalls and criminal
investigations and uh uh ethical investigations and cronyism. Those are things that are somehow are we are being known as and we're getting a bad reputation. Now seeing these employees recognized today gives me great hope.
But I think we do need to make some changes and I think in March there'll be some changes. We have to be thinking about how we look to the rest of the county. Not my decision who we send to Tallahassee in a couple of weeks, but I
think we really do need to think about who we're sending. Okay? It has to be people who represent us well and are going to be effective there. And maybe not the same people we sent last year. So think about the reputation of these people and how we going to be looking
look at in Tallahassee. So let's think about that not being personal, not attacking anybody, but our reputation right now needs to be rebuilt. And I think the work that we're doing certainly in in in Roselli is an
example of some good work. Recognizing some great employees here is a good work uh and maybe a change of some people in in March. Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you, Marie Barbara. Marie Barbara. Um
I I do want to make reference to a pack political action committee and the name of it is residents of TI for responsible growth. So hopefully a lot of uh you will be supporting it and this is for from the residents for responsible
growth. Um, I want to I I do have I did want to talk about some of the requests that I've made to the city. I didn't get a good response. I'm not used to that as a uh a resident of 45 years here and uh in-laws here been since
have been here have lived here since 1955. He is he has passed on a few years ago, World War II vet and uh one of the uh engineers that brought uh Rathon Eisens at the time along with Mayor
Stubs as a lot of you might recall. Um but uh I do want to make comment on on district 4. How pleased, elated I am to see all the growth and all the uh houses
that are being elevated in district 4, district three. I have not gone to Isa Palms in a while since the in-law has passed. But um I totally have a different view, 180 degree view from
what that other person has said about this because come to District 4, go to Paradise Island, you will see a lot of homes being elevated, a lot of growth, a lot of new homes, even the old some of the old cottages that are on Sunset Beach are being elevated. So, thank you
for that for moving the permits forward. Um I am here um also to um comment on I requested a few weeks ago data on parcels and areas of size and zones for hotels, motel and commercial uh general
from my commissioner and he went to the city manager and I requested this from the city any of the city officials as well and my commissioner informed me that the city manager declined to provide this information stating he was only required to respond to requests for emails and similar similar items I guess
to do a little research on data of how many parcels in these zones was a little bit much or the size of them. I know I can go in there and get it, but you know, I thought it would be quicker. So, um I think you should have provided basic data or directions for access
accessing this which may indicate maybe they're they're underst staffed. As a taxpayer, I expect these services to be accessible to me. The goal I've been here 45 years and this doesn't happen a lot. The goal is to assess how current traffic will be affected by the proposed change and information that should be
included in traffic study as required when updating LDRs. Of course, the comp plan has to be updated first as you all well know when it comes to height or any of the LDRs and then you change the LDRs with an ordinance process is not real clear coming from
both uh the commission board and the LPA. Having lived here, I said for 45 years, I never encountered this kind of attitude. I plan to request this information again from the entire board, hoping that we at least supply the document or charter section where this can be found. As stated uh previously
from public uh comments, I am concerned about the apparent lack of awareness among the commissioners and LPA. Given the significant potential impact on traffic congestion, I resp uh respectfully question the decision to support substantial increases in city uh
density. At the LPA meeting, members voted again on hotel zone increases in December despite no property owners requesting them. So, there's pressure and there's and there's movement on the LPA members to push this through. And there's some
members that um I I have been told are allegedly been on um commissioner city at the uh St. Pete Beach uh com uh commissioners in the past 15 years that um also um are on that board. I think um
some of the commissioners here since you appoint these uh members, you should be looking at other members to substitute them. Um it was really nasty the last one I saw. I'm sorry, but that that should not happen. And also, we're in uh
considering um a motion um to prevent further recommendation until a de a developer requested or there's an update to traffic or sewer datas are provided. They need to provide data because they were so misinformed. Um I will further comment on this on
H12. Also into consideration, I've asked for a charter amendment for the city to put on the um the um agenda for sorry I have a bit of a cough here. Uh an agenda item to uh amend article 7 of section
7.07 results of election amending or repealing the initiative or referendum law. I can go into that. I think I've I've gone through that a little bit more. >> Your title, >> but I got but I got zero for that. I got no response from any of you. Thank you. >> Thank you.
>> West Evans, >> West Evans, District 2. Uh just have some follow-up questions. I was working with Mark Hoey on this information about the high and dry. And a few questions we have. Uh starting off, why is Vice Mayor Tammy Vasquez working directly with the
developer and CDD staff? while excluding the district 3 commissioner. The commission the the property is in his district. If anyone should be informed of this, you think it would be he. Uh why was the economic developer development director excluded from the
developer communications for five months? Once again, another person that should be involved in this. Uh why did the vice mayor make an effort to exclude the club property from the future master plan? We've all been working towards a master plan or some kind of talks there
thereof. You would think uh if the interest uh was aligned with what's best for the city uh we wouldn't be trying to exclude such an important property uh from the master plan. Uh why has
information about this proposal not been shared publicly despite Jackie Toledo claiming at the most recent PNZ meeting that the community had been informed? Uh, I guess that's kind of a question for her. Maybe our CDD director and the vice mayor can reach out to her and ask
her. Uh, does this proposal represent the best long-term use of the property or does it primarily serve the developer's interest in seeking rapid income generation at the expense of the surrounding community? We all understand the developer needs to make money. Uh, no, no one argues that. But there are
things that uh you know you wouldn't want a a landfill put in next to your house just because it's could be technically used for that. You know, you got to think about what's best for the community. Uh what conditions or concessions, if any, have been discussed to ensure there is a public benefit for
Treasure Island residents? Where's the famous negotiating uh we were told uh would be done with these kind of things to benefit the community? Sounds like there's no discussions whatsoever. It more sounds like backroom deals and political connection con connections
happening. Um and u most of all I want to know why is the vice mayor communicating with the CDD and the staff bypassing the city manager. I recall uh
in the past that our mayor was kind of reprimanded by one of the other commissioners for suggesting that they could uh talk to the staff and do things with the staff and he was informed that is not what the commission is there for. The
commission is only there to guide the city manager on uh how to uh communicate with the staff. So, uh, yeah, maybe this isn't some kind of shady backroom deal, corrupt cronyism type thing, but it definitely gives the,
uh, image of it. It looks like it from the outside. And, uh, if we want to stop ending up on the news, uh, with, uh, with our commissioners and, you know, being accused of shadiness, let's stop doing shady things. All
right. Thank you. Thank you, Wes. Greg Tong. >> Good evening, Mayor Commissioners. Uh, Bill Karns, 400 150th Avenue in the beautiful city of MadiRaa Beach, Florida. Longtime resident here in Treasure
Island and, uh, very active in the community. Touch on a couple things. We had put together a group to purchase the TI Yach Club prior to the owners that have it now.
You talk about process and going through the process. We went through the right process. We were told from uh uh Katherine Yonan at the time
we wanted we wanted to keep it a club over there. We wanted to add some residential units. We knew there was a challenge because the 450 building and the 500 building maxed out the density that was done way back. the uh um about
an acre of the property that we thought was develop developable was actually uh um being used by the 450 and the 500 building for parking. Timothy Weber, um, local attorney, land
use attorney here, he, uh, stated that because it had been used for so long, there was a prescriptive easement there. We couldn't count that land in the purchase price. Ultimately, um, within our due diligence period, we
passed on the property. We were only talking about 10 single family houses kind of in a horseshoe design around the club, maintaining the club, maintaining the integrity of of the building that was there and the facilities that were
there. And uh it's a shame that went arry and look where we stand today. A lot of you people that complain about potential things that can be done in the city, complaining, fighting with commissioners,
fighting with the board, fighting with the mayor, fighting, fighting, fighting. I went through five years of this nonsense in MadiRaa Beach. And five years it took to get rid of all of the toxic commission that was in place at
the time. Mr. Brooks probably remembers some of these days and I'm glad to see a familiar face here, Ralph. Um, it's got to stop. It absolutely has to stop. I implore the commission as a whole, not
individually, as a whole. The rear view mirrors are small in your car and the windshield so big because yesterday doesn't matter. We have to look forward and you all have to work together. Put your best foot forward.
Don't be doing foolish things. I hear about it. I see about it. Treasure Island has become the laughingtock of all of the Penllis County beaches because of this poor behavior. Poor behavior from resident groups that have
no idea what's best for the city. Thank you. >> It's time to grow up. Stop all the childness. >> Be adults. Move the city forward. I had a family member in town this week. He
said, "Bill, what do you do around here? Where do you go? There's only a handful of restaurants that are open. There's what, one place you can go get a cup of coffee, maybe two in the morning. city used to be vibrant.
This whole area and everyone who complains about density and height, you're talking about 20 ft. That's nothing. That's nothing. Every project has to
have its own traffic study done. every every project that's put forward has to go through and make sure that all the utilities can handle the demand. It takes a year or two to properly develop
a project. And I'm talking about permitting. I'm talking about not just the zoning. Talking about all of the permitting, all the requirements that have to be met by a developer. And yes, I'm a developer.
That's what I do and I'm damn proud of it. >> So, I'm imploring everybody to grow up, act like adults, and let's get this city moving forward. It's a disgrace. >> Thank you, Bill.
Gregory Tong. It says do not touch the mic, but I'm move it up just about that far. Uh Gregory Tong. Uh I've been the Sun's commander over at the American Legion 118
107th. Uh I don't know, 14 years. uh been a commander. Don was brave enough to take it over for a year. Uh but uh we have a car show coming up
and I think it's going to be our 14th annual. Uh we started on the beach and now we're over here in the park and and thank goodness we're back on the grass and I really do appreciate that. appreciate working with the city and all that we've we've done for all these
years and and uh again and uh can't thank y'all enough. Again, let me give you a little history about the American Legion, what we stand for.
We've been here on Treasure Island for over 50 years. I know I am the longest running commander that there has been. out of all those 50 years during that time I know we've raised hundreds of
thousands of dollars just through the sun and this is one of the events that we do now when we go into the legion that's hollowed ground this is where we
went through co got shut down over that just like many other businesses we went through the hurricane We just opened up November 7th. We have when I go into a room at the
Legion, I am looking at people that are distraught, I am making sure that Mr. So ando or his wife or their kids or whomever may be around there, all the veterans, the families, and everything that we support
in this community. I have a concern. This is where you go to feel safe. This is where you go to get help if needed financially, mentally,
whatever you need. We're there for you. Unfortunately, January 9th, I believe it was a commissioner come in to the legion my office waving papers
had pictures of Mr. uh uh Charlie back here and Lyn Horns on there and just flashing all these papers. There's like a one line and a half a
line had my name on there. Haven't done one thing to this commissioner. whatsoever have not. And then he says, "Tongue, you're effed." Of course, I'm using just F.
You're effed. You're effed and fu tongue. Okay, you can laugh all you want. We do have cameras and their sound and all that. So, be aware whenever you go into one of these places. It is a protected place
and I will stand up for the Legion anytime. That is what we do. Any commissioner, any person that wants to go in there and have that attitude, please don't come back. It's not what we do. We're there to
protect people. We're there to protect the citizens. We're not We don't want to be part of your goat rodeo. Everybody's seen it. It is. You just said we are the laughingstock and it's been happening a long time. There's two
years of misinformation and I'm not talking about development. It It's just this place. I haven't been here for about two years. There's a reason for that. It's toxic.
Just like somebody said, honestly, y'all need to get it together. Seriously, everybody depends on you. Biggest thing y'all need is family counseling. Please go get that. Y'all used to get
along great. You haven't even been here for a year. Do better. And leave us alone. I also I also have cameras on my property and I have you on tape uh
poisoning my dog. So, and I turned that over to the authorities. >> Chris, >> that is so not true. >> You just addressed me. >> I will I'll address you back. >> Yeah, >> you've you know I've left cookies at your place, Greg. You got to Yeah, there you go. You got
>> Please don't come on my property anymore. >> I don't want to be anywhere near Alrighty, Daryus Smith and And please, he's going to adjust the mic and uh we really don't want anybody to be moving the mic around.
Thank Hi, Derry Smith, uh, Sunset Beach, and I'm going to talk about the LPA. The LPA continues to state that no developers are coming to Treasure Island to build because it's not financially viable here.
The LB LPA has given us no evidence that developers are saying this and no evidence to prove that developing in Treasure Island under the current codes and regulations is not financially viable. That being said, could it be possible that developers aren't building
right now building here right now because our LPA continues to hold a carrot out for developers? The LPA is saying says over and over, "We are going to continue to push the city commission to change the comprehensive
plan to in increase heightened density." Why? Why can't the LPA, sorry, increase height? Wait a minute. The LPA members see that they are the ones Why can't they see this? That they
are the ones telling developers to wait. Why should developers begin construction now? They're going to put plans on hold until they see if the LPA's talk comes to fruition. Perhaps if the LPA stopped talking about increased height and density, builders
would begin submitting plans now. Thank you. >> Thank you, >> Buzzy. Right. >> Let me touch. No, simply grab the mic. Wow. Well, I don't know if I can follow
all that or not. So, I'm here, you know, I've been in my business world, I've been in several boards, and I consider y'all a board and I I consider Mr. Vanzant kind of the manager that runs the city. Uh I I must admit during Mark Hoe's comments, I was kind of surprised. I had no idea. I'd heard rumblings at
about maybe a a boat storage at the far end down here, but I I had no idea it had gone that far. Uh what I would like to see is, you know, Charlie, I would like to see you nobody control your narrative. You I understand one of the commissioners has lost faith in you and that that commission that may be a good
thing for you, but um you know, I'd like to see maybe a maybe a quarterly report, you know, to the citizens on what you're doing. Let us see what you're doing out there. I know you got a board, you got a million things to do, but let's get bullet points out there. Hey guys,
here's what we're working on in Treasure Island. the pump station. Where do we stand there? The public works building. Where do we stand there? Public safety building. Anyway, I just like to see a little more transparency. I'd like to see, you know, maybe Charlie take the bull by the horns a little bit because obviously we're not getting anything
done that it was 2024. We had a hurricane. We're going into 2026. I agree that we really we're really we have a lot of challenges. We have a lot going on and and we've all got to work together and and move this city forward. Thank you.
Thank you, Buzzy. Brandy Long. >> Hi, Brandy Long G Boulevard. Um, the local planning agency exists to represent residents, not to advocate personal or developer agendas. What occurred LA at last Thursday's LPA
meeting was troubling and inappropriate. There were not any details of the developers presenting on the agenda. That gives the impression that those putting the agenda together would rather not hear from the residents that they represent.
Developers received received unlimited time to describe their personal hardships, COVID storms, and business losses. We all lived through that. Hardship is not a zoning strategy. Not every resident can simply add
heightened density to recover losses. And that raises a serious question. What makes certain properties more special than others? Without a clear updated master plan and a without a clear updated master plan, a
PD-driven process become becomes arbitrary and dangerous. decisions stop being about sound planning and start being about access, influence, and favoritism. In addition, at the end of the meeting,
the LPA chair was out of line, stating that a board member was voting a certain way to save his marriage. What kind of circus are we trying to run here in Treasure Island? Mr. Smith is due an apology, and Mr.
Harris should be censured in order to restore a fair, transparent planning process. Our community expects better and deserves it. Thank you. >> Thank you,
>> Ron Deazi. DBazzi, >> Jason, can you make it warmer? Okay, we're just going to move on. That is the end of our public comment. And now we're going to uh to move on. So, um we do not have any minutes to
approve. We do have a consent agenda. >> John. >> Okay. Mr. Deazi, Debbzi. Um, Ron, you submitted three cards for non-aggenda items. Uh, so you can speak.
You have five minutes. Everybody only gets one item to to address. >> Is there any >> You can You can address all three of the items. >> Is there anyone you want? >> But it needs to be in the five minutes. >> Yep. You've got any way you want. You got five minutes.
>> Okay. First of all, I'd like to address the commissioners. I'd like to thank each and every one of you for the jobs that you do. I mean, I know you all do your best,
but uh I'd like to say this that hold on one second. I'd like to know how you represent us as a community, all of you. I know some
of you feel that you're doing what is in the best interest of the community. Well, it's my feeling that not all of you do. There's a couple of commissioners up there that I agree with on some things, but
not on all. And there's a few commissioners up there that I don't agree on anything that they represent. I don't feel that they represent us. I don't know what ulterior motive they have,
but I could say there's two gentlemen up there on that commission that I don't agree with everything, but I agree with a lot of what they say and I respect them because they do what they feel is best for the community.
Right, wrong, or indifferent, we have a right to disagree. The two gentlemen I'm referring to I don't have to mention but I think I could say that each one is sitting at the end of the committee. Okay. The other ones I don't know what
your ulterior motives are but it doesn't show me that your interests are in the people you represent. Firstly, there's a member on your commission
that recently his conduct was unbecoming a commissioner. Now you commissioners, it's in your charter or it's somewhere that are supposed to your standards are supposed to be above
the people you represent. They're supposed to be higher than ours, not below ours. Well, you have a commissioner on the committee. I don't know what his ulterior motives are,
but I understand he has an interest in one of the motel here. Now, if he has an interest in one of the motel, which I don't know if he does or he doesn't, but I believe he does, he shouldn't be voting on any of these
issues, but he did. The same commissioner that sits on your commission and you as the mayor, according to Florida law, have the right
to prevent him from voting on any of the issues. If it's a conflict of interest, if it benefits him in any way, he shouldn't be allowed to vote. Now, I understand he's on a commission
that re represents the hotel owners. Now, that right there would be a conflict of interest. He should be removed from the commission immediately. That is your responsibility, Mr. Mayor, and nobody else's.
Another thing I would like to address is the budget. Now, we have I'm going to address I was going to do it separately, the police and the firemen, but I'm going to address them both together because it's basically the same issue.
We have a budget for our policemen. Now, I feel that they are totally underpaid. Totally underpaid. But we have a budget and out of their budget they have to supply police for all the functions of
these hotels, all the functions of the restaurants. They have to provide police officers after the function is over for cleanup, for traffic, for everything else at no cost to the hotels.
The hotels don't pay this. The taxpayer does. I would much rather see my tax dollars pay the police and firemen what they deserve to be paid. It's my feelings that they're way
underpaid. The same thing with uh the people at disposal are garbage. Way underpaid. >> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Debazi. Our time is up and we will now close public comment >> and they're under paid too
>> and move on to the consent agenda and we have G1. We're also going to be including H8 and H9 on the consent agenda. >> I move to approve the consent agenda as presented.
>> Do we have a second? >> Second. We have a motion and a second. >> No one has uh provided anything for the consent agenda from the public. So we will uh we'll move on. Is there any
discussion on the uh on the commission? >> No discussion. >> Yeah. I had a question if someone could let us know about the Superduty truck we're going to buy and what that's needed for. So,
uh, our director of public works could go into more depth. U, but there are things that are very heavy that need to be moved around. It's part of our disaster recovery plan, uh, to move the generator. And they've been milking
along. I think I told you last week a 08 or09. I was incorrect. is a 2003 F350 that they inherited from the police department after the police got the juju out of it. And um is Gary around I think
the figure he gave me and don't quote me please was in the last year they've spent about $18,000 keeping the old one there he is running. Is that all about right? >> Good evening uh mayor, vice mayor, commissioners. I'm sorry I was in the other room. I didn't quite there's a
delay. The question from the commissioner was what was that about the truck? >> We need the Superduty F350 crew cab from for um I know that Charlie has told me we needed to move a generator around now and then. Is there is there more to it
than that or what what what is the need for that? >> Well, during the last hurricanes that hit the island, we had a difficulty moving the portable uh pumps around to the lift stations. We found that the
150s can't pull the equipment, so you have to go to a 250. A 250 costs $12,500 more than a 150. It's a beefier frame. It's got a bigger engine. $1,500 more. We get the 350. It's got the same
engine, but it's got the stiffer frame, stiffer shocks. It doesn't bend when we try and pull some of the heavy equipment. We have two large generators that are they can power the whole EOC at Pasadena community. They probably can pass power this whole um building. So
what we're doing is we're we're for $1,500 more we're getting the 250. The 150s don't work at all. So that's what we're doing. It's not a dy. It's a single rear wheel. It's effective efficient use of our money. So I feel confident in the selection. We to step
back to a 250. It just we it doesn't save us really anything. As uh as the city manager mentioned, it's a 2003. We spent it was it was it was 15,000 plus labor, so about $18,000 last year keeping the old truck running. So, it
was time to move on. It was in our plan. It's actually part of our budget. And so, it it technically doesn't have to come before you, but from transparency, we want to show you when we're spending money what we're picking up. So, uh, uh, I'd be happy to answer any other questions, but I feel it's a good
purchase. >> Yeah. So, um, I'll touch up on this and then I'll turn it over to the city manager. We, the two items that we're voting on or two items that we had here in the agenda, which is eight and nine,
uh, both are items that did not need to be uh, approved by the commission. And the the reason for that is that they are in the budget. He has if they're in the budget, he has up to $100,000 to do
without bringing it to the commission. >> The thing is though is that he pointed out to me earlier today that, you know, for transparency sake, he wanted to have it on the agenda. And then now I'll I'll turn it over to any other items. >> Yes, sir. And if y'all remember, I think
it was just the last meeting you approved um the city manager budget authority up to 100,000 for things that were already in the budget. So, it's been presented to the commission. You voted on it twice in September. Um
I we just have to get used to not putting either putting those things on the agenda or just putting putting them on consent and going over them with you guys when we do our one-on-one. So, >> yeah, that was my second question you that you answered. It's it's in the
budget and you're and you're telling me that an F-150 can't pull this this stuff, >> right? And and I want you to know I I appreciate the question. I know a lot about it because I pushed back on my staff. I said, "What are we doing?" And
that's why I got all the information. They totally informed me of the history, the the capabilities and and the price and and so that's that's where I got it. But I did push back and it was a and and and they won me over. It was a good purchase. Okay. So, do we have any discussion,
further discussion up here? If not, uh let's take a voice. All in favor say >> I. >> I. >> I. Yeah, I guess you were supposed to do that part.
All right. Thank you. So, let's go on. >> Any opposed? >> Any opposed? Let the record reflect unanimous approval of the Senate agenda. >> Thank you very much.
>> Okay. So, now we have ordinance 2026-L1. >> This is an ordinance of the city of Treasure Island, Florida. Let's excuse me. An ordinance of the city of Treasure Island, Florida, establishing the property tax rate for the city of Treasure Island for fiscal year 2026
commencing October 1st, 2025 and ending September 30th, 2026, providing for an effective date. This is effectively the millillage. I'm going to read the rest of the ordinance so that we can actually read uh the property tax rate and the
millage rate uh for the public. Whereas the city commission established a maximum millage rate of 3.8129 mills over a millage rate of $3.8129 per $1,000 of assessed property value
for advorum tax revenue for fiscal year 2026 on July 17th, 2025. And whereas an annual budget for the city of Treasur, Florida, including estimates of anticipated revenues and expenditures for the fiscal year 2026
commencing October 1, 2025 and ending September 30th, 2026, has been submitted to the city commission by the city manager in accordance with article 4 of the city charter. And whereas the city commission of the city of treasure island, Florida is required by the city charter and state
statutes to adopt an annual budget and a property tax rate for each fiscal year. And whereas the gross taxable value for operating purposes not exempt from taxation within panels county has been provided by the county property appraiser to the city of Treasure Island
as 2 bill992,20028,365. And whereas the city of Treasure Island, Florida on July 17, 2025 adopted a tenative property tax rate for fiscal year 2026 following a public hearing as required by section 200.065 Florida
statutes. And whereas having now observed all procedures required by the city charter and Florida statutes, including notice and holding public hearings, the city commission now deems it in the best interest of the public to adopt a property tax rate at a level that adequately provides for the
financial soundness of city operations. Now therefore, the city commission of the city of Treasure Island in session duly and regularly assembled hereby ordains that the above recital are to correct and incorporated by reference. And in
section two, the property tax rate for fiscal year 2026 is established at 3.8129 8129 MS which is 2.1380% lower than the rolled back rate of 3.8962
MS that this ordinance shall take effect immediately upon final passage. >> And this is our second and final. >> Yes. I move to approve ordinance 2026-01 establishing the fiscal year 2026
property tax rate for the city of Treasure Island, Florida at 3.8129 mills at the second and final public hearing. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. I don't see any public comment.
Um, please call the roll. >> No. Vice Mayor Vazquez. >> I, >> Commissioner Sison, >> I. >> Commissioner Clark, >> I. >> Commissioner Dicki, >> I. >> Mayor Doctor, >> I. >> Thank you.
>> Okay, moving on. H2, Ordinance 2026-02, budget for fiscal year 2026. >> We have properly advertised this ordinance and the um notice has been recorded by the clerk as part of the recorded minutes of this meeting. This
is ordinance 2026.02, an ordinance of the city commission of the city of Treasure Island, Florida, adopting a budget and making appropriations for the payment of operating expenses of the city of Treasure Island, Florida for the fiscal year ending September 30th, 2026 and
providing for an effective date. The city commission of the city of Treasure Island is hereby ordained one that the budget for the fiscal year ending September 30th, 2026 incorporated as part of this ordinance is hereby adopted and approved and as for the budget of
set city of Treasure Island for the fiscal year 2026. Section two, the budget is being presented as a balanced budget whereby there are sufficient funds to offset all estimated expenditures and expenses. Section three, all budgeted
appropriations are based on the total expenditure and/or expenses, even though the budget has been prepared based on line items and summarized to a categorical level. Section four, appropriations may be transferred for the purpose of equalization when needed
by a budget transfer within the same fund with the approval of the finance director and the city manager as necessary. This action will not change the total dollar amount of the budget. And there's one typo in section four. It says find it should be fund. Lisa Marie
when we approve sign it will change that scriven error to fund. Section five. The city commission during fiscal year 2026 may by ordinance make any amendments to the budget adopted by this ordinance as it may deem necessary and proper.
Section six. All budget amendments requesting additional expenditures or expenses must identify a corresponding funding source. Seven. Projects that were not completed during the prior fiscal year are carried forward as special projects and are funded with corresponding carry forward
appropriations of the prior year. Carry forwards to the general fund are not to exceed $300,000 penny for panelis funds equals $0. County gas tax fund equals $0. Building fund are not to exceed $50,000.
Goulevard undergrounding equals $0. wastewater fund are not to exceed $50,000 and the storm water fund are not to exceed $50,000. These are carry forwards. These are commitments which are incomplete as of September 30th, 2025 and will be continued and made a
part of the fiscal year 2026 appropriations. Section 8, cash balance of reserves shall be carried forward for prior year incumbrances and reappropriated for the purchase orders which will be paid in fiscal year 2026.
Section nine for the payment of expenses and obligations excluding carry forward projects of the city of Treasure Island for the fiscal year ending in September 30th, 2026. It is hereby appropriated from the money in the treasury of the city and any acrewing revenue of the
city available for these purposes. The funds set forth the sums of money shown as follows. General fund 26,825 and $111. Penny for Penllis fund 2,883580. County gas tax fund 300,000
8 $380,000. County gas tax fund $380,000. Excuse me. Transportation trust fund $0. Building fund 1,210,670. Debt service fund 96800,162 Gulf Boulevard underground fund
2,741,384 city facilities fund $0 wastewater fund 11,17,345 solid waste fund 2,722,786 storm water fund 1,534 $4,463,000 for a total budget of 50,283,41. And this ordinance shall become
effective October 1 of 2025. >> I move to adopt ordinance 2026-02 adopting the FY2026 budget at the second and final reading and final public hearing. Second.
>> We have a motion and a second on I do not have any cards filled out for public uh hearing or public comments. So uh we will uh close public comments and we will take a vote.
>> Vice Mayor Vasquez >> I. >> Commissioner Dicki >> I. >> Commissioner Clark >> I. >> Commissioner Sison >> I. >> Mayor Doctor >> I. >> Thank you. Item number H3, first reading of public hearing on ordinance 2025-38,
an ordinance of the city of Treasure Island, Florida, repealing Appendix B, the terrain modification manual in its entirety and replacing it with the city of Treasure Island drainage manual as part of the city's land development regulations, providing for severability, providing for conflict, providing for
codification and providing for an effective date. >> I move to approve ordinance 2025-38, 2025-39, 2025-40, 2025-41,
and 2025-42 and schedule a second and final public public hearing. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. And we have a staff report. >> Oh, thought I was getting away with that one. Okay.
>> All right. So, just kind of like a little background. Um, so last Thursday, this was presented to the LPA and it was approval was recommended via resolution 2025-15. Um, so this did affect chapter 66, chapter 68,69, and chapter 76 as well
too. Um, chapters 66, 68,69. There are very minimal changes on those. um for the most part is just swapping out the terrain, the TMM basically title and then just replacing out the drainage manual then is what that did. Um the biggest one was in chapter 76 where
there's a lot of striketh through on that one because a lot of that was incorporated into the drainage manual and if you have questions about the manual itself as well uh we do have Gary Volan the public works director that can address any of those questions about the manual. >> That's all I have.
Any questions? >> Yeah, >> I just want to say this was a huge one on my list. Uh Charlie provided me with a new manual. It's night and day from the TMM. Um very simple, very short. Um even a a beginner developer can
understand it. I mean or or someone who's going to build a home. Um so I mean this is what we should have had from the start. And uh I I appreciate you guys working on this. It looks it looks good and it looks like something that's not going to slow down permits
and is going to help the residents and that's that's the main goal. And I think one important thing is that uh this was done by our staff and uh we didn't pay anyone you know hundreds of thousands of dollars
and uh so Gary who is a a engineer and a certified engineer and uh I know he and uh also Richard Harris worked uh pretty hard on this to uh to get it to where it is. So thank you very much Gary. >> Um I agree with you. Unfortunately, we
paid the $100,000 to the people that made the one that was impossible to uh to uh use. So, that's unfortunate, but now we're in good shape. >> All right. >> Madam Vice Mayor, I know you made a motion to do all the ordinances together. If we could just for
legalities do one at a time so I can read the headers of each one. So, if we could start with the ordinance 202538 that I already read. >> Okay. So, that one. So she needs to >> just individual motion and then second. Okay. >> Great.
>> I move to approve ordinance 2025-38. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. I have no cards for public comment. Um so any other discussion? If not, roll call, please.
>> Vice Mayor Vasquez. >> I. Commissioner Seson. >> Hi. >> Commissioner Clark. Hi. >> Commissioner Dicki. Hi. >> Mayor Doctor. >> Hi. >> Thank you. The next is ordinance 202539. This is a companion ordinance of the city of Treasure Island, Florida, amending chapter 66, flood plane
management of the city of Treasure Island code of ordinances by revising section 66-104.1 permit required to remove the reference to the terrain modification manual. Revising section 66-105.1
information for development and flood hazard areas. Section 66302.1 minimum requirement. And section 66-30.1 minimum requirements to replace the references to terrain modification
manual with the city of Treasure Island drainage manual. Revising section 66303-5 limitations on placement of fill to revise the city's regulation of fill. Revising section 66307.4
Four, other development in coastal high hazard areas zone 5 and coastal Azones to replace the reference terrain modification manual with the city of Treasure Island drainage manual providing for severability providing for conflict providing for codification and
providing for an effective date. We do have motion motion. Motion, please. >> I move to approve ordinance 2025-39. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. Uh public comment. I do not have any cards for public comment. So, we'll
close public comment. Any discussion up here? All right. Roll call, please. >> Vice Mayor Vasquez. >> I. Commissioner Sison. >> I. >> Commissioner Clark. >> I. >> Commissioner Dicki. >> Hi. >> Mayor Doctor. >> I. Thank you.
>> The next is ordinance 2025-40, an ordinance of the city of Treasure Island, Florida, amending chapter 68 zoning regulations of the city of Treasure Island code of ordinances by amending 68-2 definitions to revise the definitions building height terrain
modification height adjustment factor terrain modification setback adjustment factor and to remove the definition of terrain modification manual. Amending section 68-34 predevelopment review committee section
68431 schedule of lot and bulk regulations and section 68541 setback classification to remove all references to the terrain modification manual providing for severability providing for conflict providing for codification and providing for an
effective date. This is a companion ordinance again remove changing the terrain modification manual to drainage manual. >> I move to approve ordinance 2025-40. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. I have no
cards for public hearing. So we'll close the public comments. Is there any discussion up here? >> If not, please call roll. >> Vice Mayor Vasquez. >> I. Commissioner Sison. >> I. >> Commissioner Clark. >> I. Commissioner Dicki. >> Hi, >> Mayor Doctor. >> I
>> Thank you. >> Next, we have ordinance 2025-41, an ordinance of the city of Treasure Island, Florida, amending chapter 69, marine structures and commercial fishing of the city of Treasure Island code of ordinances by revising section 6932
definitions to remove the reference to terrain modification manual. Revising section 6951 application 6974 seaw wall and living shoreline construction and 6977 supplemental criteria to remove the
reference to terrain modification manual and incorporate the city of Treasure Island drainage manual providing for severability providing for conflict providing for codification and providing for an effective date. I move to approve ordinance 2025-41.
>> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. And I have no cards for public comment. So we'll close the public comment. Any discussion? >> No. Roll call, please. >> Vice Mayor Vazquez. >> I. Commissioner Sison. >> I. >> Commissioner Clark. >> I. >> Commissioner Dicki. >> I.
>> Mayor Doctor. >> I. >> Thank you. Next, we have ordinance 2025-42, an ordinance of the city of Treasure Island, Florida, amending chapter 76, storm water of the city of Treasure Island code of ordinances by amending 76-36,
documents incorporated by reference to replace the terrain modification manual with the city of Treasure Island drainage manual. Amending section 7637 required information to revise the requirements for residential and commercial drainage. and amending
section 7638 design requirements general to remove the references to terrain modification manual providing for severability providing for conflict providing for codification and providing for an effective date.
>> I move to approve ordinance 2025-42. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. I have no comment cards for public comment. So, we'll close public comment. Any discussion up here? >> I I would just like to add a little to what you and Commissioner Clark said,
Mayor, is that the work that uh Gary did and uh Richard Harris is is very impressive. I read through the 16page uh uh drainage manual, very simple, very easy to understand. Uh I'm I'm very glad we did this and I'm extremely impressed
that we were able to do it internally and not have to pay a significant amount of money. So, uh, kudos to to all those that were involved in that. >> I appreciate it, but it was a team effort. >> Yeah. Thanks. >> Thank you.
All right. Uh, roll call, please. >> Vice Mayor Vazquez, >> I. >> Commissioner Dicki, >> I. >> Commissioner Clark, >> I. >> Commissioner Sison, >> I. >> Mayor Doctor, >> I. >> Are we now done? We're done with >> drainage manual ordinances.
>> Okay. Uh H4, >> City of Treasure Island participation in Gulf Beach's public library community time capsule event. Mary Beth Wetzel. >> Good evening, mayor and commissioners. Thank you for your time. Beth Wetzel.
I'm on Sunset Beach, but I'm here in my capacity as a board member of the um Gulf Beaches Library. Um, you may be aware that Deb Toth and I both serve on the board. Um, she's the designated member and I'm the alternate member. Um,
we are here, well, I am here to talk about a fun event that we have going on and we're looking for some um, direction from the commission to see if, uh, what we can put into a time capsule event that we have going on. um you in in
January of 2024, a year ago, they opened up a time capsule that was from 1968. It was a very fun event. They had yearbooks from MadiRaa Beach. Um they had all kinds of postcards, things like that in it. And what we're looking for is um
what Treasure Island would like to put into it for some fun events that we have going on. perhaps some flyers from Sandy Novations, um the kite festival that went on, beach reourishment projects, um you know, some of the uh environmental
steps that we're taking. Hopefully, this will be opened in 50 years and and something that we're doing today might make an impact for down the road. Um that there there will be an event on February 26th. The public is welcome. Um, it will be at 5:00 PM and it will be
a kind of a grand reopening. They had a little kind of soft reopening after the storm damage was repaired. If you haven't been to the library lately, and if anybody doesn't know where it is, um, we serve with um, there's five beach communities that make up the Gulf
Beaches library. So, it's Treasure Island, MadiRaa, and the three Readingtons. Um the library is next to the city hall and Rock Park in MadiRaa Beach, but Treasure Island is the biggest contributor to that library. Um
so on February 26 at 5:00 p.m. it will be um we'll have raffles. Um we will have beer, wine, snacks, um water, maybe sodas. I don't know how how much we'll take, but um but uh it we look for it to
be a very fun event and um we would like any kind of input and if local businesses want to try to get something in there. Like I said, there were, you know, postcards from um some of the old hotels that were in there at the time. So, so those kind of things would be fun. I can't guarantee everything will
go in because we do have five beach communities coming together for it, but um and the time capsules aren't very big. So, um, and there were just some other things I thought of. The chili cookoff, the Treasure Island Historical Society may have some input, the
eyelets, um, any, uh, the new fire and police station that might be if we have some kind of documentation. I know that we are just at the beginning of that, but hopefully, you know, 50 years from now, it will there'll be something that's still standing. Um, so with that
and I if I could take this moment too just to talk a little bit about the library because it is um Treasure Island is the biggest contributor. I do have some numbers. I know you guys are big numbers people so I can offer a little bit but 43% of Treasure Island residents
are members of the library. Um I had them break it down for me today. Um there are some things that the library offers besides just being books. Um, so of course everyone knows probably that you can join Libby if you're into audiobooks or ebooks. You can join Libby
for free. Um, if you join if you're a member of the Golf Beaches Library. Um, they also have some movie apps that they have that you can join for free. But within the library them itself, they have museum passes to a lot of local
museums. um the uh Museum of Fine Arts, Sunken Gardens, um there's a Tampa Bay Watch, Discovery Center. There's a whole list of of museums. Imagine Museum, Florida Holocaust Museum. If you're interested in those, I do suggest though
that because the there's a certain number of passes that get distributed throughout the Penllis County Libraries to go there or maybe call first and see if they have those passes. But you can get I think two adult and three kids passes. So, if somebody's going to sunken gardens or something like that,
it could be a big money saver. Um, but they also have I'm going to go through a list here. And I even though I'm a board member, I kind of forgot about everything they had until I was compiling the list. But if anyone's looking to get more involved, be more
social, looking for social groups, they have Maong, Scrabble, Investment Club, adult coloring book club, a writer's group, meditation on Fridays. And I don't know if anybody's been following the monk's walk for peace, anyone? But
I've been following it and have been truly inspired. And I thought, oh, I might check out the meditation class now. Um the book lovers club art classes. They have one tonight with a local artist who and showing how to it's
it's a bit more than the um where you go and you drink the wine and you have I forgot what you call those classes but where everybody goes and you paint the same thing. It's much more detailed than that. It looks really cool. Um they have Baby and Me story time. They have on um
certain Wednesdays of the month international film screenings with popcorn and um workshops for hurricane recovery. They just have a whole lot of things. So I encourage if you're not a member of the library or haven't been there since it's been open. Please come.
Please join us February 26th. You can follow the library on Facebook. They're pushing that event out. And if any um local businesses are interested, we will have a raffle. So, if anyone's interested in doing a donation or something like that, um, we are welcome
for it. A little bit of marketing. And so, we're just looking for your feedback on something that you might want to have in there. I thank you for putting this on the agenda because I know that we have a lot of people who really look at that rather than um, just being in public comment. So, I thank you for your
time and look forward to any input and I can be a contact person for anything that would be um, suggested to go in there. And if you have any questions, let me know. >> The library. >> Okay. So, it's ne um it's in MadiRaa
Beach. So, it's the golf beaches library, but it's in Madiraa and it's next to it's by the city hall in Rock Park in MadiRaa. If you know where that is. Oh, and they also have um evening parking after hours for events like if you're going to an event at Rock Park or
something. They the library does have pay parking in the evening because because Treasure Island does pay a significant portion toward that library. So um we are trying to make our own money. >> Okay. We could put tonight's agenda in
the time caps that we could uh I don't know does this require it doesn't require a motion or anything? >> No. Sir, if y'all have some suggestions when are you closing the time cap ma'am? So, they're closing it on February 26th, but we would want the um I mean there's,
you know, it's kind of a we're going to see what we have and and sort through it. So, um any other >> small items, right? >> Small items. Yes, the capsule's only about this big. So, yeah, paper things would be great. Flyers, um postcards,
information, newspaper clippings, you know, things like that would be good. But um >> I think standing ovations, you ever go there and you can buy the Christmas ornaments that standing ovations and I mean they're just smaller but they're a big part of uh of the standing ovations.
>> Oh, that would be cute. Yeah. >> Any other ideas? Anyone? >> I think it would be kind of neat. I liked what you said about the businesses like Ricky Te's and VIP and Foxies are like our staples. And I know I think Ricky's has like a
little small menu. Um VIP may as well, but I think things like that would be really unique to put in there. >> I I agree. And um the Treasure Island Historical Society just put out on Facebook today a really nice historical um a background on Foxies, which was
interesting because I'm, as some people in here know, I'm a regular Friday nighter at Foxy's. Um but it was interesting to read that background. So things like that would I'm hoping the historical society will >> and I know the Thunderbird was here earlier. I don't know if they still are or not, but >> Donna isn't back.
>> Is she? I think it would be really cool to Oh, there you are. >> Um maybe a flyer or something with the original picture of the Thunderbird on it. Something like that I think would be kind of neat as well. I think because those are like our iconic things. So
that's pretty neat. I like that. >> Absolutely, >> Mr. Mayor. >> Yes. Um, Tia, our employee of the year and deputy city clerk, brought this to you. Could we just designate her as contact for y'all and Miss Wetszel, you have ideas, just funnel them to Tia.
>> Okay, >> that'd be all right. Perfect. >> Absolutely. >> Okay. Well, thank you so much for your time and just again for everybody, look at the Golf Beaches Library Facebook page for events and please come back to the library. >> Commissioner Dicki, I'd like to ask you
something. Actually, I'd like to just thank you for continuing to represent this commission in the city of Treasure Island uh with the library. We appreciate that very much. >> Thank you. It's my pleasure and thank you for appointing me to that position because it is uh it's a nice it's a nice
place to be. >> Okay. >> Thank you so much. >> Thank you. >> All right. Moving on. Item H5, review commission priorities. Yeah. So, I'll get into the city manager
report in depth, but if you could go to FL slide two there, Jason. Um, so back in April of 2025, >> this current commission set of five commissioners that sit with us tonight
um had uh some priorities. I believe y'all had some kind of facilitated workshop and you put stickies and voted. So, I just wanted for the commission and the the public and I wish Buzzy was still here. Um th this is what we're up
to. These are some of the big ticket items uh that we're currently working on uh at the commission's direction. Uh so, the public safety facility, the RFP is out there. There was a mandatory pre-bid uh meeting in this room today. Uh so the
people that were serious about it were required to be there. Um so we're hoping to break ground in the spring on that building. Uh the master pump stations right at the top of it that is being addressed. Um and an RFP will be going
on that out going out on that master pump station soon. um redevelopment of u our comprehensive plan and LDRs that's been ongoing. We're now in um phase two of those LDR updates
and the public safety building uh location you you guys approved on the city owned property on 108th leaves approximately 2 acres still left to work on as a way that could bring some revenue into the city. Um and more to
follow on that. Um I did uh get a little education in seaw walls with uh our civil engineer, Mr. Volneck. Um and he'll he'll be presenting to you more on in depth on that uh during the city
manager report, but this was all things right at the top of you guys's uh priority list. Um Treasure Bay, Sunset Pavilion. Um the contractors are setting up down there. That construction's uh
basically started today. Um the public works facility is under design right now. Um beach reourishment is almost totally complete. Some dune walkovers um are are still being finished up. Uh
you got a new bus for your parks and rec association and just a couple other odds and ends there. But I wanted for everybody that's sitting in the audience and the commission just to know that the these are your priorities. If you have
things that you think might trump these, um, you know, you can get with me and we can bring back something. But th this is the direction we're going as city staff with your city-owned property. >> What's the estimated uh completion date
of the living seaw wall? >> Um, I don't have that on the top of my See, C. >> Thank you. >> The um the the seaw wall proper is complete. It's mainly the the uh uh some of the
sidewalk work. We're trying to get the irrigation piping put in. So, it's it's the finishing touches, but I would say within another couple of months. The thing is getting the plantings in is going to take a little time. I think they may um want to wait until it gets a little warmer. I'm not sure, but uh it's
it's the the bulk of the construction is complete. >> Thank you. And what's EV ongoing sections? >> Electric vehicles. >> Yes, sir. >> What does that mean? I I think my recollection was that we
had talked about uh prior to the hurricane uh this this was a this had come up of at the request of some residents uh because we don't have any EV charging stations in our city and there were a couple of sites that were selected I think to to host these but
this kind of fell fell through the cracks uh after the hurricane received justifiably so a lower priority So, so it's probably something that we should even talk about whether or not we want to continue with that. The uh the
only thing I would think of, Charlie, I thought we were going to kind of go through and say, "Yeah, yeah, we, you know, whether or not these should still be our priorities or not." The only thing that I can think of that I would suggest that we add to it is about completing the master development plan, you know, with that that process, uh,
which I know is underway, but I think it should be part of the list. Jason, can you show the pictures of the seaw wall at the easement on Tarpon Drive? So, this is uh on Tarpon Drive at the
city eastment uh between 232 Tarpon Drive. >> My mic is on. Well, then listen up. So, uh, and then it's, uh, next to 10230. And, uh, that
address right there is 10232, the seaw wall collapse. And uh where my son is standing is the easement um the grassy easement between uh maybe couple feet behind him is the uh drainage from
the the street that goes into the inter coastal and it's just creeping closer to that uh drainage pipe and that uh I think you call that a uh anchor for the seaw wall that's also collapsed. So
that hole is just getting bigger and bigger. So I think that should also be a priority. I'm not sure how we fix the neighbors and send them a bill or lean them, but that's getting very close to being compromised. >> It's on. >> It's on.
>> Yeah. >> Um we have obtained two quotes already. We're waiting for a third quotation. We've got the the design or the the approach worked out. The city seaw wall is in good shape. What's happened is the adjacent property owner, their seaw walls just fallen in and all the sand is
washing around it and the sidewall is going to collapse. So, we're going to we're going to to go ahead and um install a brand new uh wing wall to tie it back to protect our wall from and and hold back erosion and the runoff from getting into the >> and are we going to fix his seaw wall as
well? And uh >> there is no plan to sit to fix the seaw wall on the private property. >> Okay. How do we stop that from continuing to erode? >> Well,
I'm not sure if we're allowed to to go on to private property and make improvements without any permission. Um >> we can look at it. I think maybe code enforcement or some type of injunctive relief. So, we could take a look at that. >> Yeah. Maybe what would stop it from us
fixing it and then eroding underneath or around or continuing the problem later on? >> Well, we can go ahead and stop the runoff is causing most of the problems, but there's going to there's there's going to be the likelihood of of if if I
mean, if if the owner totally ignores it indefinitely, I think we'll have to probably take a further step. But uh uh unless you direct the city manager to start fixing seaw walls on private property, I don't think we really there's anything we can do. >> Can the someone from the city reach out
to him? >> That that has happened. I I don't have an updated response, Commissioner. Um but it it has not come to any reasonable solution. So, what I instructed public works to do is figure out how to keep
our uh part of the the city- owned seaw wall from collapsing in. Um, but I I used to be under threats from my old city attorney to never put public works on private property. Um, I'm not sure
there's a simple workaround on that. Um, but we we will continue to work it and we will do what we can with our own property um to mitigate the situation. >> It's an unfortunate situation, but it I've only been here eight months, but it
has been going on for some time and uh I've seen some older photos and they've been warned about this situation in the past. So, it's it's unfortunate, but we'll do what we can to protect the city outfall pipe and the and the wall and mitigate issues for from their property.
>> Thank you. >> City attorney, uh would would you please look into what we can do as far as code enforcement and seeing that uh it looks like it's pretty severe damage. >> Typically, you'd want to go in and hit them with a code enforcement violation
and establish a daily fine. Let the fine acrue. It'll be a lean on their property. Um, you can also, um, proceed with the nuisance code, saying it's a nuisance and then we could, um, perhaps correct it and collect that money by
foreclosing on the property and using the proceeds and foreclosure to pay for the seaw wall. If you have a reluctant landowner that's not fixing his own seaw wall and it becomes so bad that it becomes a nuisance, all those things are at play. Just to give you an order of magnitude right now, the quotes we've
gotten for repairing the city portion to keep our wall from falling in due to his is um about $60,000 just to take care of our portion of it. So, I wanted to we're hoping for a third quote and then we'll come, you know, get get permission on that.
>> So, Charlie, would you uh would you work to get the code enforcement uh out there and if we have to start finding on a daily basis, that's so be it. Yes. >> So what would happen if he walked away from the home or you know is going through bankruptcy or who knows what
he's going through. So what would be the process there? >> So if you have a code enforcement daily penalty it occurs 250 a day. It becomes um compounding and and uh we can very easily tens tens of thousands of dollars if not maybe the
entire cost. Um, and then you can foreclose as a city on a code enforcement lean. And if there's a bankruptcy and it's sold on the courthouse steps, that money can come to the city to pay off that lean. And then that lean um is out there as well. So I'll work with Nancy Stupri who's
working with code enforcement and we'll we'll get the ball rolling on trying to get something happening out there. >> Okay, great. Appreciate that. >> Mark Hoey, you had uh filled out a card. Uh, thanks for caring for the question. >> Ah, great. Thank you.
>> Um, I just can I make a comment or >> Yep. >> Um, I just wanted to say, you know, I think you and I had talked about this, Charlie. Um, you put the the the PowerPoint up there that showed that we all kind of agreed
on these top items. And I think I just want to ask going forward if just we could be overcommunicated about what's going on with these things because you heard I think it was Mr. Brady earlier saying you know well we need a pump
station, we need a fire station, we need a seaw walls and none of this stuff is getting done. And and that's the same thing I hear from my residents all the time. They're like, "What's going on with the seaw walls? When are we going to get them replaced?" I said, "I have no I don't know." I said I, as you know, I bring them up to you every time that
we meet. So, I just think I believe we are moving forward on some of these things. Um, I just think we need to overcommunicate that to the residents. Um, agree. >> You know, that so they know that that something's going going on and don't have a bad attitude that, you know,
nothing's getting done. I mean because I until I until just the other day you you talked about some of these things I didn't know that they were you know moving forward >> there there I say very confidently there is nothing that this board has told me to do in the last 6 months that I
haven't initiated some kind of movement on. I hated for Mr. buzzy to leave because last meeting on the 5th, I gave a pretty comprehensive bulleted list of everything we'd been working on the six months since last July 15th when I
arrived. And tonight, you're going to get your first uh quarter um finance report and some more in-depth information from Mr. Volne on the seaw walls and they're both gone now. So, dang it. But anyway, we'll we'll figure
out how to talk about it more. Yeah, I'm sure he'll he'll be watching this uh live stream, so he'll get the update in that regard. I was going to bring this up during my commissioner comments, but I have been uh residents have been asking me for updates on some of these projects as well, and I I have found
that the city website, the Jason uh and your staff is doing a pretty good job of keeping up uh you know, what the latest is. Sometimes in in some of the major city projects, there's a there's a even a monthly update in there. So that
that's probably on on many of these things. That's probably a good source a resource to use to to get updates on what what's going on there. I >> I would suggest two things if I could, Mr. Mayor. One to everybody, get your
information from your commissioner. If you don't like your commissioner, find another one, make them give it to you. And don't get your information from social media and think it's fact. It just almost never is. So
anyway, that's my two suggestions for greater in information. >> All right. Okay. We're going to move on to H6. Authorize the purchase of camera equipment, software to replace the video inspection capabilities for the city
pipeline infrastructure. I move that the city commission approve the authorization to purchase camera equipment and software to replace the video inspection capabilities for the city pipeline infrastructure. >> Second.
>> We have a motion and a second. Um any discussion? >> Any public comment? >> Any public comment? >> Okay. So, yeah, >> West Evans District 2. I noticed in the
um the uh packet that went with this, there's the software for the camera equipment is $11,000 a year, I believe. What's the uh software cost of the equipment we're using now? Or is there no yearly subscription? Is this a
standard? There's nothing that is that the only way to do it with a subscription. and it seems pretty pricey for uh what it is, but I don't know. I know how once everything goes into the government, it gets more expensive, but uh were we currently on a subscription
plan for whatever equipment we use now? That's the only question I had. I don't know if anyone else noticed that. Thank you. >> Gary, if you would please. >> I'm going to try and answer that as as good as I can. I uh unfortunately um some of you you may all know that uh
deputy director uh JP Agil resigned. So he was a large part of that operation and and knew a lot more than I do. He could have answered a lot better. But um basically the the Q's system which was the system we had it was uh I believe
purchased in 2018. um the the camera equipment and and the equipment tends to dovetail with the software. Um we're not going with that system. We found a a better uh uh vendor for the camera equipment that needs to be replaced. Um
this software it um it it is what integrates with it. It is uh it actually came in below our budget number for it. Um it is expensive. I agree. Um unfortunately some of these things are very proprietary. It's not something
that um um we can um uh you know just purchase a license for. So uh the good thing is it keeps up to date. It it constantly renews if there's any issues with it. But um uh we we are very pleased with the package that we were
able to obtain. It was all priced out through the um the source well contract the general service kind of contract that we're available that's available to cities to utilize. So we did go through that system to get the what we feel is a
good price for it. Thank you. Okay, we'll close public comment. Do we uh have any further discussion up here? Okay. Roll call, please. >> Vice Mayor Vasquez, >> I. Commissioner Dicki, >> I.
>> Commissioner Clark, >> I. >> Commissioner Sison, >> I. >> Mayor Doctor, >> I. >> All right. H, authorize the construction contract for the Treasure Island Dune Walkovers phase 2 repair project. I move that the city commission
authorize the construction contract for the Treasure Island Dune Walkover phase 2 repair project. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. Is there I don't have any cards on any uh public comment. Public comment. We'll close the
public comment. Any uh additional discussion? >> I have a couple questions on this. Okay. One is should we wait until the county has completed the dune vegetation uh process to to to uh finish out to go to
phase two on here? That's one question, Gary. And the other one would be uh does this complete the dune walkover project or will there be more dune walkovers that need to be rebuilt? Okay. >> The the work that we're envisioning,
we're calling it phase two or the sec the final phase of the dune walkover work. It was envisioned in the in the previous um authorization that you gave us for this the first phase back uh the last fall. Um we always envision that I
think it's 99th Street 121st 125th would become a second phase. These are purely boardwalks that sort of we're just ending them. We're not taking them out past into the sand. Um this will not impact or be impacted by any of the the
plantings that are proposed as part of the ren the renovations. Um if in in the cover memo we we talked about there is some contingency in there for additional post and rope that we will use to in those areas where we we put posted rope
out. We stopped short of the dune line because waiting for the plantings. will now have the the funds will use that to extend uh it farther as necessary to protect the uh the vegetation and we might even put some parallel u uh ropes
in to kind of protect as we talked when we we toured the the dunes. Um but there is a contingency for that but this will finish the project up. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. Is there anything else? If not, roll please. Vice Mayor Vasquez.
>> I, Commissioner Sison, >> I. >> Commissioner Clark, >> I. >> Commissioner Dicki, >> hi. >> Mayor Doctor, >> I. >> All right, we're going to We had eight, H8, and H9 in the uh consent agenda. So,
now we'll move down to um H10. Authorize the city manager to approve purchase authorization to the Vortex Services LLC for sewer inspection and lining services. >> I move to approve staff's recommendation to authorize the city manager to execute
a purchase authorization to Vortex Services LLC to provide sewer mainlining. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. I don't have any cards. Anything on public comment? No public comment. We'll close
public comment back here. Anybody have any discussion >> items? >> I just uh So, this takes one of the check marks off of the priority list as well, correct? On the lining, the sewer lining. >> Yes, ma'am. That that was part of it, but we're This is I think completing the
lining on Gulf Boulevard and there are going to be other >> Okay. >> spots to do. >> That's correct. This this is this the final phase of G Boulevard. This should finish up the uh stretch out there. some of the the neighborhoods will be next and some of the laterals, too. >> Awesome. Thank you.
>> All right. Roll call, please. >> Vice Mayor Vasquez, >> I. >> Commissioner Dicki, >> I. >> Commissioner Clark, >> I. >> Vice Mayor, >> sorry, Commissioner Sison. >> Hi. >> Mayor Doctor, >> I. >> Thank you. >> Moving on to H11, proposed settlement
of the Anand versus City of Treasure Island. This is uh case number 190002456CI 20. Um we reached a proposed settlement uh through mediation with the anons that would leave our short-term rental
ordinance intact. Um and would also u remove any threat of damages and attorneys fees to the city. And it's recommended by staff that we agree to the proposed settlement of Anan versus the city of Treasure Island. I move to approve the proposed
settlement. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. I do have one, but I'm not sure that it's it's uh really is Marvin Chavelin here. No. Okay. He has H11, but I think he was
actually It says LPA request. I think that would actually be number 12. >> So number 11. Uh we'll close public comment on number 11 and uh >> no discussion.
>> No discussion. Okay. Roll call, please. We did. >> Mayor >> Vasquez. >> I. Commissioner Dicki. >> I. >> Commissioner Clark. >> I. >> Commissioner Sison. >> I. >> Mayor doctor. >> I. And now we This is the last item that we
have on our to-do list. And uh this is the discussion regarding the LPA requests. >> Okay. Are you looking at me? >> I'm I'm I'm looking. >> Okay. >> So, okay. Your cover sheet on it had three items that the LPA has requested
staff time to develop. Uh they're very similar to a motion that came before this commission about two months ago that was voted down. Um, so every once in a while you'll hear me use the term tap the brakes. When they brought me
this, I said I'm not going to take to the commission something that uh they just told us all no on. So um I'm just here to get any guidance is the items are very clear what they're asking for. Um if you guys say give them the staff
time, develop these and bring them back for a vote, we can do that. If you guys say table it till after we've done this that or the other we can do that or give me any other guidance you'd like to give. >> So what you're looking for is is
guidance and uh the direction that uh we want to go in consensus. >> Yes sir. >> Okay. So uh let's then uh go to public comment and uh Tamara Wixs. Hi,
>> good evening. >> I forgot I can't see with my glasses on closeup. Um, so I just wanted to come up and state um a comment for the record regarding age 12 to the extent that it may involve PDS, which it obviously
does. This agenda was finalized immediately before a holiday weekend which limited the public's ability to understand the full scope of the item or prepare informal for informed input. Um records also suggest that PD related language may have been previously used
administratively and there's been no emergency identified to justify the timing respectively. I'm asking the city to clarify the PD action whether PD action going further to defer any such discussion until the
master plan has been completed and to renotice future PD items as and such with reasonable notice which is noted to preserve the procedural rights for the residents. Unfortunately, this seems to be a
reoccurring pattern that things pop up without all the residents being prepared. Thankfully, these residents are determined and passionate to see their city rebuilt smartly and to begin with a master plan.
It's just short and sweet, but thank you all. >> Thank you very much, Andrew Vasey. Andrew Vasy District two. Um, you know, when we were faced with option one, option two, screwed it up. TMM
screwed it up. Now you guys are trying to do this. We all we're all very close together on this. There are a few people that don't want anything. We're all very close on this, but the way it's being executed is causing all
the strife. And so quite frankly, you know, if you're going to execute it that way, then you deserve what you get. And the fight is going to continue. So there are people that can talk through this and we can figure this out and get what
most people want here, but we're not going to get there the way we're doing it. Okay? There's all kind of all kind of bad um side deals that are being cut. There's all kind of games that are being played and there people maneuvering to
take other people out and then those people aren't doing what they need to do. If you want to play politics, we're going to keep engaging with it and we'll just keep going with it and that's fine. But we are actually closer than everybody thinks. Okay? So do it in the
right sequence and everybody will come along or the majority will come along. You were presented option two over option one because it was a better idea. You rejected it. It caused strife for residents everywhere. You had a messed
up permitting process. You had hundreds of people coming here yelling at you and nothing was learned institutionally from that exercise. You did TMM. Everybody, four of you said, "Oh, it's a great thing. We got to get stuff done. Keep hearing this from Richard Harris. I just want to get stuff done. It's like no, we
need to do it in the right sequence. That's how you run a program. Okay. And we are very close, all of us, to doing all the things they need to do that are going to benefit anybody. Option two was to benefit the citizens. TMM not doing
it and doing simple fill was to benefit the citizens and doing a master plan which is really as mayor doctor has said is really a business plan because what we're trying to do is we're trying to bring in the financial resources the legal structuring and target the the
development that needs to be done so that we can in a smart way adjust height or density or type of use so we don't put a Goodyear blimp hanger in front of the country the the yacht club and
people's town houses because somebody thought it was a good idea to rush. Well, we can't do residential. We could put something over there. We got to work together. We're not working together. And so, we're going to keep fighting. And I can tell you there's plenty of people willing to engage the fight.
There's lawyers that are ready to engage the fight. We can just keep going at it or we can figure it out. Get us a proper business plan. Get the right people in here. Stop listening to these locals who have no idea what the rest of the world looks like. This idea that you can only
have Florida experience is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Think about the history of the world if you told Leonardo da Vinci he couldn't work in France because he was Italian. Or think about Aerosin who designed something beautiful New York and you told him he couldn't work in St. Louis because he
didn't know the Midwest. He said, "Come on, folks. I mean, be a little less provincial and get with the program here and you'll get all the support that you need. But, you know, this is all like this local uninformed
smalltime politics. People are to the point where if we're going to run a recall on somebody, we should just wipe the whole town out and uninorporate it and go to the county. We don't want to do that, but give us a freaking break and work together on this so that we can
get it done. We really aren't that far apart. So, it's time to just cut the crap and it's time for certain people to back off and work together instead of trying to be cute and we and we will get this done for Treasure Island. Period.
Thank you. >> Thank you, Scott Elliot. I don't know how I follow that building bridges, but my name is Scott Elliott. I live at 520 Capri. I heard a lot from this side about the
highest and best use. The highest and best use of a property is what it is right now. Given the environment and people who put up the money, what we see around this town is the highest and best use this last weekend. Parking lots. That's our highest and best use for this
land right now. And I don't know if you know what the prices to park over there were like $32 an hour or $50 for two hours. It's insane. So given our current regulatory environment, our best and highest use for any one of these lots
that are still demolished is exactly what they are. You know, Thunderbird could have built up 30 stories in the last 55 years except for the regulatory environment. So the best use of where it was before the hurricane that hotel right now with the regulatory
environment and the cost of construction parking lots and that's what we have and that's what we're going to get and this this is unacceptable. We're all over the news. If you want to be on the next Panelis podcast for something good say that we approved building. You want to
rebuild our character, our vibe, our our community, you have to literally rebuild it. And so I'm just going to say is that I'm for building. I'm for heightened uh density increases and that uh if the fight continues, we can look forward to
more parking lots. And so if that's the case, then we need to schedule more beach uh festivals like every week, maybe even during the week, so that we can fill those parking lots and have that generate revenue because they're
certainly not generating us revenue right now. Thanks. >> Thank you, >> Mark Hoey. Mark Hoey. And still Arthur Saison doesn't represent my values. Um I'm going to be a little more narrow about
the the topic of what came out of the LPA last week and it was really uh groundhog day. Uh again all of these three items in one way or the other pretty close had already been worked on
time spent by city staff yada yada yada presented and turned down. what has happened in observing the last few LPA meetings, you know, P&Z is pretty cut and dry. It's a up or down vote on variances, but LPA used to be more of a
measured response. Uh what they've done is they've usurped the commission's role. They've flipped on you. Instead of being giving you advice and recommendations, they're trying to set the agenda for the city.
That's unacceptable in my staff. You may be okay with that. But I think what's happened is they're emboldened now to say, "Well, let's just keep shoving this stuff at you until you get tired of it and maybe you'll accept it." And it's creating that sense of tension. Uh, and
it's unruly. You think this is unruly, watch that and see that there are no limits to to comment. It's just whoever whoever gets up and if if Richard and Ross and the others like you, you can talk as long as you want and present whatever you want with no real endgame.
So I I think that's an issue that the commission needs to address in order to gain back that they work for you or at your pleasure. I say maybe not work for you but at your pleasure to help give you good information,
advice. They have the more technical expertise. Of course, that's what they should be giving you, not coming back and saying, "Hey, you voted this down. We want it. Here it is again. We're going to make the city work on it and shove it back at you." So, think about
that. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mark. >> Donis, go IU. >> Sorry, Miami fans. Uh yeah, I'm I'm Don Snees. Um I am in District 1 and I I also have the
pleasure to be the chairman of the um code enforcement board. Um I want to talk about the relationship between master planning and plan developments or PDS. Um the master planning process is a is a big picture process. Um, it's going
to require you all to confront some difficult issues and make some difficult decisions hopefully with the advice of professionals. I think you're going to learn about issues you had never thought of before. And I think you're going to get information that you didn't have before. I think the result of the process might be not only an overall
master plan, but maybe some changes to current rules and regulations that you don't even anticipate right now that you're going to change. Um, that process will create a baseline for you. The master plan will be a baseline of rules and regulations for owners and
developers in our city. Plan developments are more focused on individual developers and specifically individual projects and areas and they're a great tool and it's a tool you should have in your toolbox. Okay? Um I
don't think this is an eitheror situation. I think this is a both situation in my opinion. Um, the PD will allow you basically, and I'm not sure I'm being very artful about this, but to make changes to that baseline that
you've established to the master plan that are appropriate for that particular project and developer that you think are reasonable and that does no harm to the overall goals of the city. But because of that synergy, because of the way they work together, it only makes sense to do
the master planning first, to establish your baseline first and then to create your PD system after you've gone through that whole process. Doing a PD system now puts the cart before the horse. Again, it's a good tool, but because it
focuses on individual product projects, it can be misused. Okay. Um, so you have to be careful with it. Um what we're trying you know to do here is balance two very very reasonable goals. One we
want to be attractive to developers and that means frankly in the real world having projects that are going to be profitable for developers. You can't love development and hate developers. It doesn't work that way. Right? On the
other hand, we all want to maintain the character of our city and we don't want it to become too big here or too dense here and maybe our goals for one property are different the goals from another property within the context of a master plan using PDS in the context of
a master plan. I think we can put guard rails on the on the system so that we we stay within reasonable bounds but still have the flexibility to pursue these developments. Uh, I I I want to say one more thing. Um, as the chairman of the um code
enforcement board, I work with Tia Payton. Can I just say thank you for honoring her. She's been wonderful to work with. I really appreciate her and all the staff I've worked with. Sorry to sneak that in on you. Thank you very much. >> Thank you very much, Don. Robert Baso,
>> you know, Robert Bzo, District One, everybody's a who's a hooer today. I mean, God, God bless Indiana. Um, and and well said. Um, I know you don't agree with Mr. Elliott at all. Uh, but um I more side with Mr. Invest, but I think we're all actually we're all
closer than we actually think that we are. I mean heightened density is not a four-letter word and clearly I I I saw one of our commissioners smiling and and a comment was good one is uh you can you know developers and development
development are are separate and one doesn't have to be evil and the other one good. I mean we're all a team. We just want smart development. I I love I I love the Thunderbird idea. I love their plan. I mean, I do it tomorrow, but it has to be done smartly and
intelligently. And I and I love the last presentation talking about the master plan is again not a four-letter word. It's kind of like it's kind of like the book and PDS could be part of the chapters within the in the book. It's smart development. I wish we did a
couple of years ago when many people talked about it. We're a little bit behind the curve. Um it was mentioned at the LPA uh there was a 2006 master plan or something. Well, maybe that could be the uh the b the base document and maybe then they would speed up the process to
get an updated master plan. But let's get that done. Let's get the contract awarded and let's and let's get it out there and then everything else will flow. But I mean height and density there were places where we it would work tremendously well and god we needed
development everybody's uh look uh Thursday LPA meeting was an absolute uh it was a tough thing to watch. I'm sorry I'm a Navy guy. Uh but I kept thinking about Pearl Harbor. I mean it was a it was a sneak attack. I mean it was not
really well done. Um uh we have an attorney here. I'm not an attorney, but a sure smack to me of uh of not being legal. I I don't you know, I won't say illegal, but I would I certainly know what unethical means, but trust me, I
know what ethics is about. And it certainly was unethical to have a public agenda and then start the meeting by going, "We're not going to we're not going to follow that. We're going to move the uh public uh comments to the front." And he invited all these other
people here. Well, I love them. I love I love uh I love Mr. Burns. I love Shawn. He's a great guy. I love his mother even better. Uh because she's a hell of an athlete and she can almost beat me in pickle ball, by the way. Um so I I I love Shawn. I I love I I I'm not
anti-development. I love that Thunderbird owned her very very much. But what he did on Thursday was wrong. There was no public there. I was not there. I I saw the agenda published and it was very innocuous. It was like uh
hey uh birthday cake and ponies and candles. It was great. Uh so we didn't come and then he had a public meeting with all the developers and then I mean God bless the city manager. He said to you go he said to you all I need guidance on what to do
tonight for H12. Well I can tell you real real quick. You don't touch it right now. You throw it away. that those three things which you know on paper I think may be beneficial by all means but the way he did it
was irregular at best and I'll leave it to the attorney to say whether he was illegal or not his conduct was unbecoming. He certainly needs to apologize to one of the board members. And I'm sorry. I mean, I don't want to personally attack
anybody. Censoring for sure. And do we want him to represent us even though he spent uh 100 years as a professional engineer? I I get that. But maybe you don't want him to be the chair anymore of this board. I'll leave it to the board for that. I don't want to be negative.
Again, when I saw that tape on Thursday, I I said to myself, this is this is this is wrong. this is not the way to do business. We want development. We want it to done smartly. Let's get the master plan um out there. Let's let's hire the people.
Let's get it done and let's rebuild and I can start me and Mr. Elliot can have a beer because we're neighbors and we're military guys as well. So, God bless Treasure. >> Thank you, Robert. Marie, Barbara Barb.
>> Wow. I get to follow that. Okay. Um yeah, I watched the meeting and it was a bit appalling to see um Mr. Richard Harris and the way he conducted himself when it came to um and he's that's your appointment, I think, as far as he needs to have be recommended. Don't bring up
somebody's wife as the reason why you are voting a certain way. He didn't need to do that. He has a lovely wife. I met them when they first moved to District 4. So, there's no need for that. He needs to be talked to. And um on a on a happy note, this is only the one happy
note that I can find tonight is that um in the St. Pete Beacon before the L LPA meeting in December, I read because I get the St. Pete um times or I mean St. It used to be St. Pete Times uh treasure
uh Tampa Bay Times and in there was a St. Pete beacon and treasure there was comments about the Thunderbird. So, all of you probably already know this that the Thunderbird agreed to build to the current building codes. I'm going to build the hotel to current building
codes. Did you know that? Of course you do because you're commissioners. And so, we were happy to see that. And then we see the LPA, the LPA meeting where they're bringing up and stirring the pot
again and pushing their agenda for density and increases to the density and the height which are not necessary in the in these areas. And um I am not closed off to all of this. In fact, when the Burns and Bill Edwards owned this
the downtown property and I think there was other and all the other I think there was other owners too, but they were uh uh accumulating this property from the other owners. Not criticizing that at all. It was a probably a good it's a great business move, but they only had um uh zoning
access to um the zoning only allowed for commercial properties to be built on that. They had no um um access. They had no authority to build uh hotel rooms that was put on in uh by an ordinance. I
don't remember after the 2002 between 2002. You remember was it in 2014 2014? I know there was a PD in 2014 that asked for that property for the units there to go from the residential hotel side of uh
or LTL. I know a lot of people don't know these terms. I looked all this stuff up is a lodging units to be built from 22 units. They asked for 266 and that had to go to referenda because that's what our charter and our uh local
and our local ordinance in 2002 command. And this is at the heart of the problem by the way that our our charter does say that anything that is init ordinance that is initiated by not by the five commissioners uh sending this
authorizing and confirming this ordinance. It it is initi it was initiate initiated and voted on by the electorate. That's at the heart of this legal problem which can hold all this building. All they're saying that they're close. They're not close. There's already attorneys saying they're
going to hold up the city on anything that's not voted by referendum for height or density increases for 10 years. And we've seen that done in St. Pete Beach. We're trying to prevent that actually. And that's why we created this
us this group to see if we can come together. We gave downtown, we gave downtown uh uh a uh authority with referenda to have hotel rooms on the commercial only uh uh
um zone. We did that passed. You remember that? So, it's not impossible to do that. I actually would thought that it was a good idea to what Mr. uh K brought up here to give the 10 10 condos that they were going to build over there
on the on the um what do you call it the the yacht club. I thought that was a good idea, but you the the board never put it on referenda. We could have helped with that because a lot of us want to contain we don't want to stop building. We don't want overdevelopment
here because it's going to impact our way of life as residents. Maybe it'll devalue some of the condos and everything else like they did if it gets too extreme like it did in Clear Water Beach. It really did because I know somebody that owned property over there get had it because you couldn't
move. I mean, takes you an hour. What it used to take you 10 minutes, it takes you an hour to move off the island. That's all we're trying to say. We need some We need what we need is public uh sentiment to be in line with what the developers want. And that's why we're
creating this pack. Well, some of the attorneys are are pointing at um bringing this to litigation. I'm just trying to tell you this is not as easy as they're saying because if they hold everything up for 10 years, they are going to build to what they have. Of course, they are going to be. But if we
wanted to go a little bit faster, I think you should be in step with us. Thank you. >> Thank you, >> Donna. Um, good evening, Mayor Dr. Vice Mayor Vasquez, commissioners, uh, city staff, and residents. Um, thank you for the
opportunity to speak tonight regarding the LPA's request to represent the comprehensive planned amendment for the resort area high uh district and the proposed increase in density. As you know, our request for this amendment change was previously denied. That denial effectively halted the dialogue
not just for the Thunderbird uh but for how Treasure Island moves forward with rebuilding in the resort areas follow following the devastation caused by the hurricanes. We are hopeful that the city's decision to bring this amendment forward again will be approved because it is a necessary step in the broader
rebuilding of Treasure Island. Um approval of this amendment change is not approval of the Thunderbird Beach Resort rebuild, nor is it approval of any specific project within the zoning district. What this amendment does is it allows the property owners to the
opportunity to bring forward the plans that can be reviewed by the staff, the LPA and ultimately this commission within the framework of the comprehensive plan. Um this action does not dictate whether the city proceeds with a master planner
plan development or both. It preserves the city's options and allows thoughtful planning to move forward rather than closing the door permanently. From the very beginning, we have listened closely to the resident feedback and adjusted our plans and visions accordingly. The amenities and givebacks we presented at
the November 18th uh commission meeting were not final proposals. Uh they were the starting point of a conversation about how a rebuild could benefit the community. Unfortunately, when our request was denied, that conversation stopped that night. I do believe the
commission and residents see our commitment to Treasure Island. We met regularly with the city commissioners and we have repeatedly offered to meet directly with the residents through the commissioners in productive face-to-face forums outside of social media. That offer uh still stands today.
Um, obviously me personally, I don't have all the answers, but I do have a team in of experienced professionals, planners, architects, and legal experts who are prepared to assist to do the work, answer the questions, and collaborate with the city and the res and the residents to get it right. Uh,
we are asking for your support for the opportunity to continue a transparent, collaborative rebuild process that reflects the uh, vision of the city and its residents. We hope to earn your trust, your support, and your partnership as Treasure Island rebuilds.
Uh the Thunderbird um is also fully supportive of the plan development approach. Under a plan development, the comprehensive plan remains the government governing framework. With that in mind, we we respectfully ask how the city intends to address density if a
plan development is adopted. Without amendments to the comprehensive plan, no additional density can be granted. Um, in that scenario, a planned development would not provide any added benefit or flexibility for our property. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Sean Burns. >> Hello. Good evening. Uh, just want to address a few of the comments that the residents had to say. And as a resident myself, I understand and I listen. Um,
I'm aware of the current code and I have always lived by that as a 40-year-old resident. Our family used to always say, "Don't ask for variances in Treasure Island. You won't get it." And as much as that's been challenging through the times, that has led my family to be very
successful in Treasure Island because we've had a niche that we've always been able to navigate. Unfortunately, things have changed and we you hit it spot on the mark. Um, parking is the most valuable. To be
clear, I don't set the rates. I'm a landlord and there's a tenant and I don't really like the rates myself, but as a business owner, I have to pay bills. My tax bill keeps going. Um, we've been working on that project. Our first meeting in its public records was
in November of 2021. We knocked the building down in the end of 2023 and we still I today the only thing we have done is a permitted parking lot. Right. And unfortunately despite all the chaos and all the ups
and downs, this is a highle view. We don't really have any other way forward. There is no other path to to move right now. And that's a fact. Um, so I kind of just wanted to address a few other things in the in the I kind of wrote
some notes as people were speaking. Um, some of the public comments that were early on was traffic, sewer, architecture, public benefits. I want to make it clear, and I think Ralph can back me up. All this gets addressed via the PD process.
It is a very transparent. It's a reviewed process prior to any approvals ever being issued. This is a back and forth. Back and forth. It's a long tedious process. It's not like, oh, developers are super excited about going through a PD process. No, if you had it by right, that's a lot faster. You just
come in and say, here it is. I want to build it. A PD process is the idea is that it's a benefit for everybody, including the residents as a resident, including the land owners. And I the other thing is is I know there's a lot of developers. It's like a big evil word. And I do appreciate some of the
words that were said tonight that basically say, you know, we can't say we want development and we hate developers. You know, I think developers loosely used. I, you know, no offense to the Thunderbird. I don't know that they're really developers, right? They had a hotel and it got smoked by a hurricane. That doesn't make them a developer now.
They want to rebuild their hotel, right? I mean, that doesn't mean that doesn't mean they're a developer all of a sudden. So um not again nothing just gets approved via the PD the PD's process. It's a tedious process. It goes on to the PNZ has town halls and it goes
to the commission. Multiple public meetings are required until an acceptable project is presented. These meetings are for discussions, revisions, negotiations between the city, the residents and the developer. This is the mechanism in which great projects are
built all across America for work. It works for everyone including the residents and the taxpayers. PDS can allow for changes to the code not just limited to heightened density but to include setbacks, architectural design and many more challenges that projects
face today with FEMA and new building codes. I'm sure a lot of you face those with your houses getting flooded, right? Another important benefit that PDS offer is is being sight specific but do not give the developer
a path to redevelop their property that it does give sorry it does give the developer a path to redevelop their property that is transparent to the residents. You get to see the plans. You get to see the scope of the work. You get to see what the public benefit is
getting out of the project. It's a negotiation. It's not it's not a one-way road. It's it is truly a negotiation. Um, someone did say earlier that the city of Treasure Island is the only city in Penllis County that does not have PDS.
This is true. We want development in this. If we want development in the city, PDS is absolutely a step in the right direction. Um, does it need to be fully negotiated or figured out tonight at 8:30 at night? No. But we all know PDS is the way that we got to get there
if we want to put limitations on it for the master plan. and I have some comments on that. Um, so be it. But PDS are the way forward. It allows flexibility, which is the number one um, piece that development needs and it it's not a one-way street. I want to address
one resident's comments that development will move forward once the door is shut. This is not what I have seen to be factual. Example would be John's Pass has looked the same way for 20 years. Yet across the bridge, 4 million people a year visit John's Pass. Can I have a few minutes? Um,
>> no, >> that's fine. Uh, last comment on the master plan. Um, there is a master plan on the downtown. It was implemented in 2015. Um,
I there is some facts that haven't changed. Nothing's been rebuilt downtown. Why don't we look at the plan and see what still applies today? >> Thank you, Sean. Well, on that comment, spot on what you said earlier. The highest and best use is a parking lot.
And if I don't want to be the bad guy to build a parking lot, but when I have no alternative, as the lady here is telling me, build to the code now, I intend to. It'll be a parking lot. >> Thank you. >> And that's not what I want to do. >> That's not what the code says. >> Okay. West
>> West Evans Isa Palms. Uh I guess I just want to say I agree with Sean. Maybe PDs are a good idea. They just need to be uh after the master plan. Thank you. Thank you, Sarah. >> Hi, Sarah Pennington, Isle of Palms.
Something I just was kind of noticing as I've been sitting here listening to the comments. Um, it appears that our city is somehow divided into two groups. One group is painted as the anti-development side that just wants parking lots and
chain link fences, which is completely absurd. No one wants that. And then the other side is considered pro-development. And I've noticed as I've been listening to the comments, every person who's gotten up here that is called by labeled by other people as
the anti-development people, they're all actually the ones that are saying, "Hey, we want this. We want development. We want to work with you guys. let's find a way and get a master plan going and do this. And then the people that have come up here and said a few demeaning things,
even not necessarily in this room now, but um they're the ones that are on the pro-development side. And and it's just interesting how it's been painted that these other people are anti-development. I'm definitely not anti-development in any way. I agree with all the comments
earlier. We're very close. All of us want to see a beautiful downtown in Treasure Island. We want to see everything rebuilt. Absolutely. The problem is is that it's trying to be done a in the wrong sequence and b to the panelis county maximum of density
which is completely reckless for a town of our size. We do not need to be the density of panelis county. It's just too much. And I noticed um the LPA meeting they repackaged it to come back to you pretending that it's different. And it's
actually not different. The only difference on this new presentation for you is that they took out the 125 acres per units per acre for 3 acre properties or above. Other than that, it's exactly the same as it was before. 100 units per
acre for 1 acre and above and 75 units per acre under um 1 acre, which is the Panelis County maximum. Again, that's where we draw the line. That's just way too much density and totally irresponsible. Um, I did hear the representative from the Thunderbird talk
about all of the amenities that they were offering because they've been listening to the residents, but they're not listening to what the residents want. We don't want uh a couple parking places and a sidewalk and a bar that we can go to. We want you to listen to us when we're talking about the density and
you're asking for just too much. Uh, the negotiation of the PDS that Mr. Burm is talking about sounds awesome. Yes, transparency. Yes, we can negotiate on things. The problem is we have a terrible track record of the commission listening to the residents. It's really
bad track record. So there's no trust there for the residents to say, "Yeah, let's do the PDs and you guys are going to negotiate this for us." The trust isn't there. That's why we want the master plan so desperately. We all want the same thing. We just want to have a master plan. We just want to have
responsible density. If there's going to be increases, we need to see data that proves we need it. That's it. Thank you. >> Thank you, Sarah. All right. And that then closes out the uh the public comments.
Um >> Mayor, I'd like to be recognized. >> Sure. Absolutely. >> Uh I appreciated the comments. I'm sorry. >> Come on up. I >> uh evening commissioner and and staff. Uh Chris Downing um member of the PNZ
and LPA. Uh I'd like to say that I agree with a number of the comments that folks made about the LPA meeting last week. Uh they had a lot of merit in their comments. uh as a member of that board, I would I'm
actually embarrassed some some of the things that were that occurred during that uh board meeting. And I can tell you that from my perspective, I'll try to make sure that in the future we have more disclosure as to who is going to be
coming to that meeting. If we're going to invite developers, we're going to make sure that's done well ahead of time and and announced. So, I think, you know, in retrospect, I I'm I take all those comments seriously and I'll make sure as a board member that I relay them to the board chair and that I make uh
some motions to get things those things corrected in the future. So, I've said before that all the roads seem to lead to the master plan being done first. You heard that several times tonight. I'll say it just again. The
master plan should come first in all of this. It's going to inform the way in which this should go forward. I'm supportive of PDS. It does help everyone get more negotiation done as we do new development, but we need the master plan
to inform it and to put the limits on the way in which those PDs are actually done. So again, the master plan needs to be done first. We have in front of us a generational opportunity to make Treasure Island something really
special. You know, this everything that happened here was bad, but what good can come out of it is generational. So, let's just take our time. It won't take that much. We're well along the way. We could have had a lot of this done already, but we're still
we're we're very close. And as we've said before with some of the other things where we got it wrong, we got it right with TMM now and taking that out. Thank you, Chris, for all of your support and pushing that forward. So, take your time. Thank you. >> Thank you,
Commissioner Dicky. >> Thank you. Uh, and I appreciate the comments and they were I had written down some comments I wanted to talk about on this particular agenda item. So, I'd like to get started with that. I want to start by saying I appreciate the time and effort the LPA has put into thinking about the future of Treasure
Island. Uh their willingness to engage on long range issues is valuable and I respect the work they do on behalf of the city. That said, I think it's important to be clear about roles and process. The LPA is an advisory board.
Its role is to review applications, draft ordinance ordinances, and plan amendments that are already before it, and to provide recommendations to the city commission. It is not intended to function as a policymaking body or to
initiate broad changes to zoning, height, or density in the absence of property owner request, staff analysis, and an adopted planning document. What's being requested here goes beyond that role. In this case, the LPA is asking
the commission to authorize and direct staff to move forward on three significant zoning policy initiatives. Deciding whether to initiate initiate zoning changes, which which issues to prioritize, and when staff resources
should be devoted to these efforts are legislative policy decisions. Those decisions rest with the city commission. I'm concerned that moving forward in this manner blurs the line between advisory review and policy initiation
and it puts puts us the commission in the position of making zoning decisions without the benefit of data analysis or a comprehensive planning framework. Given that we are in the process of selecting a firm to complete a citywide master plan, I believe the more
appropriate course is to table this discussion and ask the master plan consultant to evaluate these suggestions as part of their broader review. For for those reasons, I recommend that we table agenda item H12 and forward the LPA's
suggestions to the master plan consultant for consideration as part of that process. Anyone else with thoughts? >> Um, yeah, that's something you looking for a second on or No, that was >> No, it wasn't a motion. It was just >> No, actually, we're not taking a motion.
We're not taking a vote tonight. That that what what's happening is the LPA has said, "Okay, we want to have you take a look at these things." And that's where the the PD comes in. And the three items really kind of fit into the PD.
You know, it could really be one item, a PD. Uh but um so anyhow, that's uh that's kind of what we have a been asked uh especially by Charlie uh our city manager is what is uh what are we going
to do and how do we want to proceed and do you want to proceed? and that that's what's being asked of the commission here tonight, not any votes or anything else. >> You want me to go? >> Yeah, please. >> Yeah. So, I got a few comments here. Um,
I think, you know, we've heard a lot of good comments tonight. I I think, you know, Don Nemesis really summed it up well when he talked about having a master plan that sets guard rails and then maybe we do use some of these other things. Um, I I want to talk a bit about
a master plan because I hear detractors say a few things about it. Number one, we already have one and so we don't need another one and, you know, this is just going to create, you know, uh, uh, extra
time. So, what I thought we agreed to do was hire a master planner, not someone that's just going to come in and write a master plan and then leave. Um, we are we are low on, you know, talent to do
some of these things here. I mean, Gary is someone that could do some of these things, but we don't we don't have a a huge bench of people that can do this. And so what I was under the impression we were hiring was a master planner,
someone that has experience building successful cities other places and has a track record of success. And that that person would be our quarterback to help us get this thing going and
actually spur development and bring in more development. Um, you know, I I've said all along, I want to make this a a bustling small town. And, you know, I also hear people say, well, if we don't approve these things
tonight, it's going to be 10 to 12 years before we ever build anything here. There is no reason that if we quickly hire a quarterback, master planner that can help us here, um, that it's going to
it's going to delay any shovels going into the ground. No one is sitting there with bulldozers out there waiting to start building something. Um, the other thing is I do agree. Some people said we're fairly close and you know I've
talked to my residents and they tell me that if we get in a super talented you know master planner who helps us drive development and bring development bin in that you know if this guy knows what
he's doing and says we have to add 20 ft over here or add this over here we're going to listen to the person if he's an independent you know person. And the other thing I see happening is is, you know, it seems like right now we
just want to very quickly just let's get this going and let's help our local developers. Yeah. I want to help our local developers. I want them to succeed. But but I also want to bring in more development. I want to I want to do the
entire town. I'm not looking to just help a few. I want to help everybody. Um, and so, you know, I just we we voted the other night to do a master plan. So, if we're going to do that, let's do it.
Let's find the right per person. And if that person tells me that we need to do all these three things that are on the list tonight, then so be it. That's what we wanted and that's what they told us. But I think Donna hit it on the head with we need some guard rails around
some of this stuff. We need to make sure they're there. And I also, you know, I think we have we have a RFP out for a community development director. I I don't even see us having someone that's going to be able to negotiate these, you
know, PDS and negotiate what the city gets right now. So, I mean, I I I just think that we need help and um we need a professional to come in here and help us. And um that that's what I think we should do. Do
>> you have any F2? >> Pardon? So, um I'm failing to see I I haven't heard one person up here say anything about not moving forward with the master plan or
that we we're if to my knowledge we're out right now. That should be coming back very soon. Um that really has we keep talking about it and talking about it like we voted against it. we all voted to move it forward and now we're just waiting to get back the
information on it and and the people that are applying for it. So, that's happening. We're just we're in the waiting period right now because it's the R did we do RFP or RFQ? >> We did a RFQ for like 28 or 30 days.
>> Okay. So, we're just waiting to get back the RFQ. Um again, no. Can we please not talk every time I go to speak, please? >> I do never talk that much. >> Well, you do a good job.
As I was saying, we can't say that all of us are against a master plan and master plan, master plan when we are the ones who moved. We actually pushed it forward. So,
one has nothing to do with the other. a master plan 100%. You know, I get what you're saying. I get what everybody's saying as far as make a plan, make guidelines, make everything else. The end all beall is if a master planner
comes in here and says, "This is the way I want it to look," and we all agree to it, but the numbers still don't make sense to our our uh developers, they're still not going to do it. So, it's private property rights. We
can't tell a developer that they have to make something look a certain way. We can suggest it. We can give them incentives. We can work with them. We can negotiate it. That's called a PD.
So, a master plan and a PD. A PD is a tool in the toolbox. I've said it a hundred times. I'll say it a hundred more if I need to. Every single city in Penllis County has one but us. So treating it like it is the enemy is,
you know, Mr. Vasey likes to throw out how crazy certain things are, that's crazy. saying that a PD is is a an evil tool that we don't need is that's crazy because it definitely needs
to be done. We need them. A master plan has nothing to do with a PD working or not working. So, we know we've been we've talked to all of us, I'm sure, have talked to many
developers. We've looked at numbers. We've looked at everything. And the facts are the facts. Everything halted after the last vote. I did everything possible to try to I voted it down. I
voted it down. I voted RF50. I did because I wanted to try to figure out a way to make things work and to kind of figure out a way to meet in the middle. And ultimately, no matter what,
the certain small segment of people with the loudest mouths are always going to hate anything that I put forward. They're going to hate any kind of change. And the only thing that's acceptable to
them is nothing. And it is without a master planner from Indiana, our city is going to be screwed. I love Indiana. I was born in Indianapolis. No problem with Indiana. Do I think that
someone from Indiana is who we need here as our master planner? No. I've made that known. But my point is, if if we don't 100% agree down the line with a particular group of people, then
we're the enemy, we're stupid, and we are bought out and sold out to the developers. I say instead of spreading rumors about in the dark of the night or there's backdoor deals or somebody's getting
payoffs, bring the proof. Please bring it to the authorities. bring it to them. I I would love for that to happen on any of us and I'm including myself in that because I guarantee you one thing, what do I make? $380 a month. That's what I think we
make up here. >> And if you think for one second $380 a month to take the stuff that we take is worth it, it's not. We just love our city. And if you think I'm going to risk going to prison
for some kind of payoff for somebody else to build something that means nothing to me, you're sadly mistaken. And I would dare say that my colleagues feel exactly the same. Going to prison isn't a real good option for me. And that's what would happen if we were
taking kickbacks or or seed money or whatever you want to call it. So instead of spreading rumors and trying to get this whole city and keep them in an uproar, if you have proof, bring it to the authorities. Let the
authorities handle it. I've had an ethics violation filed against me. I wasn't even a commissioner, I think, for two months. And guess what? It was thrown out. So if you think something, do something so that it can either be proven or
proven not true. So that we can move forward in this city in a positive, wonderful way to get our city back to what it once was. And it's honestly got to start with our working with our developers and to stop powering. And I'm
I'm ashamed of myself for voting down the last time because I feel like that I cowed and that I apologize for because I truly thought there could be a way to
meet in the middle and there's not. There's not a way to meet in the middle. A certain segment of people are never going to be happy. I can't wait to read about what I'm involved in tomorrow on social media. That's can't wait for that. But I'm gonna vote my conscience.
And I was put where I'm put in district one or not vote because we're not voting. But I was put where I'm at to make the right decisions for the city to the best of my ability. And that's what I intend to do. And I will tell you, and I know
you're not going to believe it, and that's okay because there's a larger percentage that do. There's not a day I don't walk my dogs where somebody doesn't even pull over in their car or they're walking their dogs or their kids or whatever the case may be. And they
thank me for everything I have done and for putting up with what we've put up with and to please stay strong and to please not stand down. It happens every single time I walk my dogs. And it is what it is. You can accept it. You
cannot. But I'm going to always do what's right for this city. And I'm sad that I didn't do it the last time, but I fully intend on making up for that now. >> My turn. >> Yes. Thank you. >> So,
I think the first two could be handled by the third. Uh, I fully support PDs as they're fair and equitable for property owners and residents alike. The residents get to know the scope of the project and the public benefits that will be provided by the de developer
prior to approval. The property owner has a clear path to developing their property in a fair, reasonable, and transparent process that includes several public meetings. To me, PDS are the only way forward. Every other city in the county provides this process and
it's been very successful in rebuilding communities and we do not have one in place. So, the only thing I could really support on this list is PDS. >> Commissioner Dicki, do you have anything else? >> No, I I uh I I guess I'd like to reinforce a little bit what I've heard
from several people, including up on this uh dis. I think we're not as far apart as it sometimes may have come out across. I I didn't hear anybody, Vice Mayor Vasquez, just like you said, you didn't hear anybody that was against master plan. I haven't heard anybody
that's against PDS. I've just what I've heard is let's you know there's a proper sequence to do it. Let's do the master plan. Let's incorporate PDS in part of it. So I so I think we're we're in sync there as well.
All right. I I won't take too much time, but let me let me just kind of lay out what I see. Yes, we voted for a master planner. Yes, we need a master planner to help us through this. Um, I
do think that this is, you know, we're we're not really into the residential pieces of Treasure Island. So, a lot of it is more the commercial, the downtown areas, everything that we list in in that. Um, but we're not going to get
there by one side or the other. What where we're going to get there is a master planner along with the property owners and then the city and the residents come together to to figure out what we actually want.
And I think that's the the most important thing that there is is that you're not going to move forward if all you do is have a master planner and you're not talking to, you know, the the property owners. you know, the property owners are going to be as big of a part
of this as it is anything. And then what what it needs to be is that this commission listening to our residents, you know, become a impartial uh developer of of we're the developer is I guess what I'm trying to say is that
really we're the developer. It's it's not, you know, it's the property owners. Hey, they they've got their property and their rights and they can hold out forever. Uh we don't want to see that happen because then we won't have a a a good vibe for our city. So, we need to
start building. I think that we're almost there on the master planner stuff. The property owners uh have come and reaching out uh as the Thunderbird and as you know the 107th. Um we we've
got everything that we need. We just have to get it all together. And I think that's when people say we're a lot closer together than we we think we are. But we don't have we have all the different pieces or are gathering all the different pieces to come together.
And I think that can be done. It's not going to be a you know a two-year process. It's not going to be a year process. Uh, I think that as soon as we get our master planner, we can start to at that point, we can start pulling people together and taking a look at
what needs to be done. And that that's that's it's frustrating. I I've uh, you know, I've been sitting here, you know, is in this position um, and saying, "What can we do?" because I'd love to see this
commission uh be successful, you know, this city manager be successful and all of the folks and the residents be happy with what they're seeing and what they're doing. So, um that's it. We we don't have anything uh to vote on
tonight. Um, I know that Charlie is looking for some uh some direction and I think that direction basically is and it will be uh a PD, you know, move moving forward in a planned development. Uh, but it's we don't have all the proper
pieces and places yet to decide. >> Can I say something else? >> Yes, go ahead. So I I just hope that this uh master planner, if the commissioner uh commission decides to go in that direction, I hope this master planner is not pre-selected by the gentleman from Indiana. I hope
that it's an unbiased uh selection process. So that's all I have to say. Thank you. >> Sorry, Mr. Mayor. I'm having a little muscle cramp. It's been a while. So the consensus of this commission is to not devote any staff time to the
current three items that the LPA has requested. Is that my takeaway here after all this discussion? >> Personally, I'd say yes. That that's the the direction that we're going. Not that we don't want to have time being set
aside to work on this project. Uh but we're a lot closer than we have been for a master planner and uh I think that we need to get that taken care of and then we can be uh be able to move forward on the other pieces. >> Yes, >> sir. So, I think I think what you're
saying is is what a couple of us would say all we've been arguing about is the order. And I think you're saying what Ardan and I know I'm saying is let's get the master planner in, have him look at all this stuff, make recommendations, and then maybe we move forward with some of the other stuff.
>> What about also having the uh city attorney draft something for uh regarding PD so we could review it by the next uh commission meeting? and uh right >> you know this way we don't stop any progress.
>> So my thought process is to kind of tag a little bit onto that is um I 100% see what you're saying but once we choose a master planner then we have to come back if I'm correct and correct me if I'm wrong um once we choose one then we have
to negotiate a contract with them. >> That's true. Then it has to come back to us for a vote. >> Yes, ma'am. >> And then they start. >> Yes. >> And then they have to put the plan together before we could address any of this again. So then this would have to
be after the plan we approve a plan and then if he sees fit at that time then we have to come back do this again instead of doing it cohesively. So that once we have a plan, again this doesn't mean every single person gets to
do this. This is just a negotiating tool. Um but if if I'm understanding right, I mean just the process alone, if we don't move forward with this this evening,
waiting to do the master planner, waiting to negotiate the contract, waiting to approve the contract. So, we're talking several meetings down the road and then the plan has to come together. So, that's several more months and then we
put this forward again. >> I think we have a handle on the situation. Yes, ma'am. If you wait till the very end of the master plan, I think you're probably a year away. >> I don't know who the master planner is
going to be. Um in short, our procurement uh people will validate they met the requirements. They will evaluate the RFQ and then we'll we'll give you all the packets that met the RFQ requirements and you guys will select
one. You you are the selection committee and the timeline is exactly as it was briefed in the RFQ that we went over with each and every one of you. >> Yeah. >> So that's my fear. My fear is before we even get back to this
to get any kind of a of forward motion, we're approximately going to be if we do it exactly that way, we're we're going to be approximately a year away before we're even ready to bring this back up.
Instead of moving together, start negotiating with the Thunderbird. start negotiating with Sean Burn, start negotiating so maybe we can start doing something because again we could get the best master planner in the world and if
our developers don't want to build it, they're not going to build it. >> Yeah, >> we can't make them build it. I I think one of the things you heard from the general manager at the Thunderbird, she said that, you know, even if you did do PDS, if you don't change a comprehensive plan in terms of height, density,
>> correct, >> floor area ratios, and all that other stuff, it doesn't do any good. So, so even if we gave the city, >> I'm not saying just for PDs, I'm saying all of it. >> Yeah. I'm saying even if we gave the city manager the permission or not permission but the instruction to go ahead and build PDS into our into our
code now it wouldn't help them because we'd have >> No, not if we don't do everything else. You're absolutely correct. You're 100% correct. >> And and again I think all I was trying to say and I think I heard it from a couple of the other uh members up here
is that let's do the the master plan. I don't want to wait a year. I'm hoping we've got some early deliverables here that will allow us to move more quickly than waiting till March 2000. >> You know as well as I government doesn't move that fast. >> Oh, I know. But I'm hoping the city planner does. >> But I'm talking about how many approvals
we have to go through. That's my thing is once we get that, then we all approve it and then we go to okay, now we start moving this forward and then now once we all agree on that, then we have to put that forward to be voted. So that's all
I'm saying is it's just it's delayed, delayed, delayed, delayed. In the meantime, everything just keeps getting worse and worse. And the cost of construction goes up and up and up and up. So maybe where
80 ft works this year, maybe 90 feet works next year. I'm not saying it does. I don't know. I'm just saying the longer we wait, cost rise. And that's my fear of just wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Treasure Island is known for
kicking the can down the road. That's why we our police and fire are working out of trailers for the last year and a half because it didn't get built when it was supposed to get built. And that's my fear. That's my fear. >> Okay. Um the reason that we want to hire a master planner is to do development.
And if we hire the best master planner in the world, like the vice mayor just said, there's absolutely no reason why that person on day one if they have a ton of experience can't start working with someone like the Thunderbird who is ready to go right now. And Richard
Harris told me that, you know, even if they got the they they got the go ahead today, they're not going to be putting shovels in the ground and for quite some time. So I I I think the >> true >> I think that the you know the whole time thing is just is is a bit overblown. And
I I I think that I think that in order to do this right and we have a blank canvas with our town um you know what is two or three months you know and um and
uh yeah that's that's that's my opinion. >> I think I've got what I need. Mr. Mayor, thank you. Sorry to put everybody through that. All right. Um, let's uh move forward with the city manager and attorney reports.
>> I'll let uh Ralph go first when Jason brings up my PowerPoint. >> Okay. >> Um, we don't have too much this evening. Just let you know the legislature is in session. Senate Bill 840 um has been proposed by Senator Sigil from our area and it's a
bill to the um Senate Bill 180 and would reduce the you >> oh sorry city attorney Ralph Brooks just give a quick legislative update uh Senate Bill 840 is moving through the Senate. They're looking for a House companion bill. It would take Senate Bill 180,
which is the um prohibition on more burdensome and restrictive ordinances and comp plan amendments, uh and move that date from 2027 to June 2026. So, we might have that lifted off of us in the near future if that goes well. There is
quite a few other bills. I'll try to keep you posted. >> Great. Thank you. >> All right, Mr. Mayor, commissioners, um just putting uh forward your priorities. Once again, I'll overcommunicate as
Commissioner Clark suggested. Um I'll do this over here. Um, we went through earlier this evening your commission uh capital projects uh back from April of 2025.
Um, we're moving forward with the public safety, the master pump station. Um, we've freed up two acres of the property you own on 108th to do um some kind of revenue generating project for the city.
Um you're going to get a pretty in-depth uh brief on seaw walls and we'll try to do this as quickly as possible. Um tonight um we're developing options for Treasure Treasure Bay. Construction on
Sunset uh Beach Pavilion started today. Um so our new public works uh facility is under design. um the beach uh renourishment and the dune walk over uh you actually voted on
and got a little briefing on earlier. Um you have the bus. Um we have people I'm I'm going to look into the EV thing a little bit more myself and and um figure out exactly what's going on. Um, we have
people going through ICS incident command systems courses now and just shoring up our disaster recovery plans. Appreciate your support on the items we we move to consent to get the right tools in the right people's hands uh to
prepare for that. Um, and with that I'm going to call up uh Mr. Victor Ortiz and he's going to talk for just a very few minutes and then subject to your questions hopefully not take too long to give you October,
November, December's financial reports >> uh before he even starts on that. And and Victor, you know how much I respect the work you do, so this I'm not questioning that. But when we review something as significant as the first quarter financials, it would really be helpful to see that stuff in advance so
we can we can read over it and review it and have some good questions. It's hard to kind of just look at it for the first time up here and and and and make good questions or comments about >> with the commission's permission. We can just move that to the next meeting if you want. Has not a problem.
>> I I would feel better about that. Especially if you if you gave us some gave us some stuff to look at before the >> We depend on you looking at it, Ardan. So, I'm willing to do it. >> I appreciate. >> So, I agree with you, Commissioner, but uh usually in private it takes like 30 minutes to get the numbers in, but uh I
was being asked for from people to do a quarterly report even before having a quarter in. So, >> not by me or you were >> No, no, but but it's depend of how early you want it. I just finished it today. So, >> yeah. No, that's good. That's good. just get that to us between now and the next
meeting and we'd have a seat. Thank you. >> That would be good. >> All right, Mr. Volneck, >> you're up next. >> Staff, I'll put any of them to the next meeting that you want. Okay, I'm going to go ahead and talk briefly on the seaw walls, the
condition. At the last meeting, there was some concern about where we stand as far as seaw wall work in the city. So, um I I put this together. Basically, we did do a a study to evaluate the condition of the seaw walls uh most recently in 2021. Um and during that
time the uh consultants looked at each of the locations and they were able to go ahead and based on a a DOT criteria ranking um come up with a condition analysis on on how they they uh they were that ranges from excellent to poor.
There was only one poor location but but these are the locations here. You can see that they vary in length. Uh the first one Treasure Bay that's that's that's going to be good now. So very good now. So, that one's taken care of. But, um, and then we talked about the
second one is behind, they call it city office. That was what they labeled it, but it's 108 seaw wall, and that's being looked at. I've got a pre-application meeting with the, uh, Department of Environmental Protection for February 6th to go over that project. Um, but the
rest of them, you know, they get shorter in length. the 115th Avenue Causeway. Um the the uh the work out there that was what Commissioner Clark brought up last week. Um but it like I said it ranges they get some of them pretty small uh but they are scattered all over the
city. Um I did conduct after that after the conduct uh commission meeting last uh two weeks ago. Uh city manager and I took a drive and I I basically took him to uh various locations to look at good,
fair, uh pretty and sad looking and and they all are in various stages. But um even even the ones that were just uh satisfactory, excuse me, fair, which is lower than satisfactory, were not that bad. Now, what what based
upon the review of the it has been since 2021, we did go through the hurricane, but um I don't see any immediate concerns. Um uh we did go out to 115th Avenue about five months ago and
excavated and patched up some of the areas that were experienced subsidance. So uh but what I'm going to do is commit to having a monthly review of the seaw walls and make sure that if we do identify any areas that are showing
signs of settlement or or lean that we will jump on it immediately. Um the the thing is we do have a grant application in with the HMGP uh program for $3.2 million to cover uh
seaw wall repairs and you know that is currently we're we're in a tier one position I believe for that project. Um so there's a good like likelihood we will be getting dollars for that to go ahead and and address everything. But I
if if for some reason that money and funding does not come available, um what I'm going to recommend is a budget of probably about seven 3/4 of a million dollars a year until we finish all the work. Um, so you know, it it uh
I'm getting some favorable pricing on uh some cost costs for the work at 108th Avenue and I'm hoping that those numbers will translate also to lower costs and maybe we can drop that budget allocation and say half a million a year. But I
think going forward this, you know, we're in a budget cycle. We'll be approaching the 27 fiscal year budget cycle. um we need to set some money aside and we'll start, you know, crossing those off. The HMGP grant doesn't um let you start on if they're
going to fund you, you have to wait until they fund you. So, that's kind of where we're we're we we want we we we want the money from that from that program, but we also want to be careful about the condition of our seaw wall. So, we'll continue to monitor that. But, uh I just wanted to give you a quick
overview. Um Victor already gave me two minutes, so I hope I made that. But uh are there any questions? >> You got just two minutes. Uh but anyway, so it's your sense upon visual review of or evaluation of of these seaw walls that there's nothing like imminently,
you know, going to collapse or anything that we need to be concerned about right this minute? >> No. No. I I do not believe so. No. >> All right. I appreciate you guys looking at that. >> Yeah. I mean, I guess that was my question and I am absolutely no seaw
wall expert, but that doesn't look that healthy to me. You're saying that that's like satisfactory there. >> It cosmetically it's it's not attractive. It's kind of like if you have a 2003 truck and it looks like heck and you're driving it around. I mean, it just it still gets you around. It is
still functional. We I we are going to put a a a new seaw wall in. It will be totally replaced, but but right now it's serving its purpose. Um, if we had a bunch of rocks stacked against it, you probably wouldn't even notice all those cracks and and and rough spots. But, you
know, uh, but but rip wrap, we don't want to go that route. We'll go ahead and and put a a a new sheet pile seaw wall in. Um, uh, we may consider some rip wrap in certain locations, but uh, I agree it's not pretty. I I've I showed
the picture. I I showed you this is a recent photo um that was taken the last week or two. So, so, uh, it it does I agree with you, Commissioner. It doesn't look great. >> I don't care what it looks like so long as you tell me it's not going to fail and, uh, allow us to not get out of our
neighborhood next time we have a storm. So, >> Okay. >> Any other questions? Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Good. And um to wrap it up, u our economic development director sent you
an annual report and I'm she just has two slides. I just want to go over for the commission's benefit and the public that is still with us or watching. Jim, >> just very quickly, this was a new office that you put into place last January. Um, these are the goals of the office to
increase the non-residential tax base to stimulate that commercial rehabilitation and new commercial development which you spent a lot of time talking about tonight. Increasing downtown customer foot traffic really important to our business's economic vitality, expanding
the diverse mix of businesses in um on the island and improving our city's reputation. The one thing you can always expect from your office of economic development is metrics, indicators, market research, data, information. So,
um the annual report that was shared with you late last week will give you an example of the framework um that you'll see um from the office on what's um happening again as we look forward for fiscal year 2026. Really important that
we keep the businesses that we have. So, business retention and expansion is a key part of the activities for the office. Um, the commercial redevelopment master plan. Again, all of those proposals um from firms with their
qualifications are due back to you on February 6th. You'll be looking at um those proposals. We'll need to schedule a um separate meeting for you to um take a look at that at the end of February. um business development strategy,
marketing, storytelling um will be a focus um for the office in 2026. Again, with the expansion, business retention expansion program that entails one-on-one visits, roundts, surveying,
um business showcasing um activity um in order to encourage more downtown foot traffic. We heard um and saw the positive press, the activity in the downtown with the kite festival, what our parks and recreation department
does um with events um festivals, um activities, what the civic associations do to create that fun and vibrancy on the island is all real important to our long-term economic vitality. And um within the next week, you'll see our
first um quarter economic indicators. So um there's about 16 data points that I'm following as to um where the trends and data are um t taking us telling us. Um so um you'll now see those um quarterly
reports coming from your office of economic development. So that's just a quick um highlight on on what uh we're focusing on. I don't know if there's any questions. >> Otherwise, you all know where to get me. >> I don't have questions, but I do a
couple of comments. One is I uh I I was very aware of the work that you did January through July on the disaster recovery, the building repair because we work pretty regularly on the rebuild TI efforts and going after those grants. So, I I know that process wouldn't have
gone nearly as well as it did without you. So, again, thank you for making that happen. But looking at this list and you know you you you always like to have more businesses in place and stuff, but it's it's impressive to see that how many people you've been out there talking with, meeting with, and I know
you're going to need commission support to get some things done. So, uh when it comes time for that, I you know, I'm sure we'll all do everything we can do to help you with that. But anyway, this is an impressive list given that you had five or six months to to do to do all of
that. Thank Thank you, Commissioner. Economic development is a team play. So, everybody um here each department supports um local business in one way or another. So, it's a real team effort. >> Okay. Thank you.
>> Thank you. >> Okay. The as you uh commissioners leave tonight, I will hand you the city manager evaluation form. The mayor and I have had a couple of discussions and that's where we landed. um on the forum
and we can just schedule times with each other and get your feedback. Thank you. >> All right, we will move on to commissioner reports. Commissioner Vazquez. >> All right. Um I West I did want to
address your questions. Um so I wrote them all I think I wrote them all down. So, um, as far as the club at Treasure Island, so first I want to say I was reached out to, um, a county commissioner
had told Jackie Toledo to reach out to me because she had tried to get in touch with somebody at city hall. This is what I was told. Um, she had tried to get a hold of somebody at city hall and she was getting zero response and zero help.
And the commissioner said, "Reach out to Tammy Vasquez. She lived there forever. She loves, you know, the club remembers blah blah blah. It doesn't matter. Reach out to her and see if she can be of help." So that's how that all started.
Um once I talked to Jackie Toledo, um well the first time I talked to her, I don't even know that you were here. I think it was before the city the new city manager came in. As far as leaving the city manager out of it, he is in no
way he has sat in, I believe, every meeting in city hall. He has gone on a tour of the club with myself, Jackie Toledo, and I can't remember the gentleman's name that I >> think it was Tim, the facility manager. >> The facilities manager, yes. Of the
club. We toured it. We had discussions. Our meetings were always inside city hall. Um, so there was no shadow, there was no shade. Um, not only did Bobby Shay Lee
attend those meetings, um, Jack, matter of fact, she I don't think she attended the first one. I think it was Jackie and Mary Ellen were in the first meeting um in, uh, here in city hall as I stated. So, why did I leave it off of the master
plan? The reason I suggested that is because it's a very difficult piece of property that has been everything's been tried there over the last I would dare say almost two decades. Um I know it's been much longer
than 10 years and it's always comes down to the density issue because the two condominium buildings have used up the density between the condos and the parking lot. It was a deal that was made forever ago. So, the reason I suggested
leaving that off is because it seemed like we had found a use for it that could be a highest and best used, be beautiful because of the design was gorgeous, still have our club, reopen it with the restaurant, the pool,
everything else. Because the county said that a high and dry marina is not density. That is not considered density. which means forward penllis said it is not density and forward penellis said yes you could put a high and dry there
as far as I don't even know what Jackie said in the LPA meeting I'll be completely honest with you um I watched it but by the time she got up there I had to leave so um I did not get to finish watching it but I will say as far
as the public being involved to my knowledge they've never applied for a permit to do it or anything of that sort. It's a public I mean, it's a private piece of property. It's not my job, nor is it
anyone in the staff's job to bring a project forward and put it in a meeting um when there's not been any permits or anything else filed for it. Now, if there has been a permit, I am not aware or permit applied for, I'm not
aware of that. But I don't believe to this day that there is. It was a discussion. Had to work a little bit with the county to see if they would even consider that because it's a difficult piece of property. Um, once
again, wasn't my duty to let the public know what a private company was trying to do with their private property. I was thrilled that somebody was trying to figure out what they could do with this piece of property so that we don't
have the eyesore as we come in. Um, so I just wanted to clarify that with you because I could definitely understand where that would look weird. Why was I dealing with it and everything else. So I I I'm not even going to disagree with you on that. I could see where that looked and I've said it many times from
up here. If you have questions about something, I believe our city manager said it earlier, reach out to me. Please don't assume because, and I'm not speaking just directly, you I'm just saying in general because I guarantee you there's a pretty simple, clear-cut
answer to just about any question that you could have. And but this was in no way secretive. Everything happened in city hall. it involved the city manager and um I was the one that was contacted for help and that's what I did. So
that's I I just kind of wanted to address that because I could see why that would look, you know, shady and it by no means was. So um I think I answered all of that. So I'm going to move on. There's no questions in public
comment. So I'm moving on to sun shades. >> Mayor I'll address it at the next. >> So, I want to also address the sun shades in Roselli. Unfortunately, I wasn't here to
um kind of plead my case. Um I definitely got a lot of people that reached out to me after the fact. Um very very upset that, you know, we're not getting our sun shades. Um the park is not usable without shade. um
basically April through October depending on how hot the months are and that's currently um and I um Mr. Boso I completely understand what he was saying. They went through the right channels for pickle ball. Um, you know, he said the dumbest comment he ever
heard was that that we voted yes for pickle ball, but we voted no for the sun shades when you all went through the right channels and I actually helped with the pickle ball courts as well. The difference is the pickle ball courts needed to be done before the hurricane because the courts
have been messed up. It carried through. Well, everybody wanted them switched from a tennis court to pickle ball and then it carried through. Yes, all the procedures were done. The difference is the park used to be shaded. It had a
huge tree over it. Um the two shades that were there along with the tree kept the majority of the park covered. Three hurricanes took the trees out. The park is left with zero shade. So, yes, we absolutely may have to go through two
years, like you said, with pickle ball you had to do, but in that two years, we have a park that has just been redone that the sun is beating down on that children and grandchildren can't use because the equipment is over 100° and the children can't play on it. Now, I
don't I have I have a grandson. He's way too little to go to the park right now. But when I have grandparents and parents reach out to me saying and not just on my island from all over because everybody comes to that playground because it's a really nice playground that they can't believe we're not going
to have the sun shades. We can't believe we're not going to be able to take our kid there and they can't believe we're not going to be able to take our grandchildren there. So I just want the people to know that have reached out to me. I am still working on that. We are trying to be creative. We're trying to figure it out. trying to look again at I
mean we've always been looking at grants but we're really trying to find something to help with that. But I just want for all the people that have reached out to me to know that I'm not letting that go by the wayside. It is a priority of mine, not just for the people in in Capri, but for all of
Treasure Island who bring their kids and grandchildren and such there. Um we've got to get that park covered because otherwise it's an unusable park. Um, moving on from all of that, um, just kind of wanted to touch on a few
upcoming events. Um, on January 30th from 9 to 11, uh, Coffee with the Cop is at one of our awesome newer local businesses, Curious Soul, um, Coffee and Bakery, right on 107th. So, that's coming on January 30th. Um, the Treasure
Island Fire Department chili cookoff is February 20th. Um, that is a ticketed event. So, you can go on the Treasure Island website or on the social media page and you can find the link to buy tickets to that. That's always an
awesome event. Um, and then Capri Island has their yard sale on February 28th. Um, it's the first time we've done it since the hurricane. If you are on Isisle of Capri and you want to have your own yard sale, um, you can contact Sylvia um, or Jen or anybody to get your
little heart. And that's just to kind of get on the map. Um, but also even if you don't live in Isa Capri, you can donate um to the ICA, the Isis of Capri Association, and they have their own area set up, and it's to raise money.
So, if you just have things you want to donate to them, you can reach out to me, whatever, and I can connect you for that. Um, and then I just wanted to say another great kite festival. It was beautiful. the weather was really really cold, but um it looked like to be a
great success and um I just I love these events and I definitely look forward to having more of them. Commissioner Clark. >> Uh yeah, I just want to um thank uh Gary and Charlie. You know, that the the seaw
walls that I brought up uh that came out of one of our you know, Isis of Palms meetings at the residents expressed a lot of concern about and um you know, once I brought it brought it up, you guys jumped right on it. As you know, I was actually out jogging when I ran into you guys uh taking a look at them. So,
um, I appreciate that and, um, I will keep, uh, our folks posted where we're going to have our next meeting because, uh, we're getting really big turnouts and, um, I really en enjoy the feedback and as you can see, I take that feedback here and these guys jump in and and try
to help us. So, I appreciate it. Thank you, >> Arthur. Commissioner Suzan. All right. Um, so, uh, as for the kite festival, I've honestly there was more traffic on Friday than and Saturday than the Friday
of standing ovation. So, uh, like to see maybe in the future we could open up the park for parking. Um, luckily I didn't have to tow any vehicles, but uh, there were a lot of tow trucks with cars on the flatbed and that sends a bad signal for visitors if we tow where they um
shouldn't be parking. And then um I started a Facebook page. It's uh Commissioner Arthur. I got three followers. Uh I hope to have five by the end of the night. Um so um I'll be posting open items as um I do have a
list of open items uh that I'll be posting online. It'll be informative. Um I'm not getting a lot of information from my city manager uh for full full transparency and I will be posting those on the page and then
>> just on uh Facebook postings it's important there's a US Supreme Court ruling that everyone if you have your own Facebook pages say these are my personal opinions and not necessarily the opinions of the city of Treasure Island. If you do that that'll help you guys as help as well as help the city
from any liability. So disclaimer >> just yeah these are my personal opinions not the city of Treasure Island. >> All right. Thank you. >> Yes. That's that's awesome. Thank you. >> So I had my uh regular meeting today with Mr. Vanzant. Um he insisted on
having another person in the meeting. >> Your microphone's not on. >> My my apologies. Uh so I got to say all that before Yeah. Well, Commissioner Arthur um Facebook page. profile get more than three people following. Um so
uh I had my regular meeting with Mr. Vanzan today. Uh he previously insisted on having another person in the meeting as he says we lack mutual trust. Uh to balance things out and to protect myself from uh some of Mr. Vanzan's lies and
personal attacks, I brought a constituent to the meeting as a witness. He objected to having the citizen in the meeting. Uh Mr. Vanzant and Commissioner Clark have been conspiring to illegally ban me from city hall except for meetings uh days of meetings. Uh the
city attorney reviewed their conspiracy to block my access to city hall and determined that such actions would be illegal. I would like to add for the record a meme that Chris Cart created and distributed of the past uh mayor Tyler
Payne and his meme was provided to Mr. Vanzan today all of these ridic ridiculous uh activities by Mr. Clark needs to stop and I would like to place on the next agenda to censure Commissioner Clark. Uh Mr. Vanzant uh
said that he is unwilling to do anything about Clark's uh continuing continuing misconduct. Mr. Vanzant is incapable of showing showing leadership in getting TI on a solid path to recovery. I have zero confidence in him. All of my requests
for information have mysteriously fallen through the cracks. He is not a neutral leading city manager. That is all I have. So, I'd like to add this to the record, please. Commissioner Dicki, >> I've got some rather boring stuff to
report uh compared to some of the others here, but uh I was going to mention the pavilion, but you already heard that from the city manager that the work on the pavilion uh in Sunset Beach started today. So, the I went by there and the construction workers, there were quite a few pretty big crew there. So, that was
very good news. Uh I had mentioned earlier when it came up that the uh about the city projects being updated on the on the city's website uh on the a good idea for you to go in there and look at that uh to see not everything's updated, but a good portion has been
updated and and and they're keeping that updated. So that's helpful. Uh, something else that happened I thought that was pretty low-key and and a number of us found out about it just because we came by here and was wondering where everybody was, but the city parking lot
for employees has been relocated to the north end of the building instead of the south end, which I think is a very good move. Uh, but when I came by there that first Monday, I thought, wait, wait a minute, it's today. You know what's I went back home and checked the calendar to see if it was a national holiday or
something. But anyway, I think that was an excellent move to free that parking lot up for paid parking. Uh it's much closer to the to the to the beach there. So, a good idea, whoever's uh that was. And the only other thing I had is is Mayor Doctor, you you started out the
meeting by saying that we're going to do the test the five minutes and see how that went. And I did uh start writing down how many people spent how much time talking. So, of the 11 people who spoke during public comment, uh, four used the full 5 minutes, uh, three used less than
2 minutes, two of them used 15 seconds more than the 3 minute would have allowed them. Uh, and then one used 41 seconds less than the max. So, total total uh that the public comment because of the five minute took an extra nine
minutes. Uh, your numbers are completely incorrect. Really? >> Right here. 34 >> 34 >> 34 people spoke. >> I mean, the ones that spoke at the uh non-aggenda items that >> Oh, of just the non-aggenda items. >> Yeah. If you take them all, you know,
there's 34. >> Yeah. >> But neither here nor there. Are you done? >> Yes. >> Okay. Couple of things. Uh yacht club. Um you know that uh I I've asked about the yacht club several different times.
Um Jackie who? Jackie Toledo uh had called me at one point looking for some information. Um and it kind of disappeared and uh I I didn't know about any other work that was being done on it, but it disappeared. And if you actually ask,
you know, the uh the folks in the planning and zoning where is it? They say, well, there's never been a completed uh application. uh so that it's in it's in a pile somewhere, but it's not a completed application. They're still looking to
see what what potential is there. And um you know, the thing is is that just as it stands right now, they couldn't put a high and dry there without the uh commission taking a look at zoning. There's there's a number of things that are in the zoning. And you know they
when they built that club um there were only four or five purposes that could even be used for. One of them was a private membership club and that's what they actually built on. Uh but some of the other ones uh are like uh the city if the city owned the property the city
could do something with it. Um and that would be almost any government office. So if the school board wanted to buy the property that it but there would take a lot of zoning and everything else to to get this done, you know that Bill Edwards just didn't give up on it
because he he you know he he thought that it wasn't going to make money. Uh he didn't give up on it. He basically let it go into bankruptcy because there just wasn't any real use to the property other than the private club and the private clubs were going on the
downside. um 10 years, 12 years ago, whatever it was. So, so that's really what's happening over with the uh with the club. Now, I'd love to see something that uh that could the city and all the residents, whether it's was commercial
or whatever, I'd love to see them develop that property. Uh but that's, you know, neither here nor there because it doesn't look like it's going to happen anytime in the very near future. Uh so, we need to take a look at it. uh is still with the uh the master planner,
but kind of explain to them and describe the situation of what's happening down on on the yacht club. Uh the kite festival, uh I'll tell you what, I thought that this uh the past weekend was going to be a disaster. Uh we had our grandkids over and thought we
wouldn't be able to see the kite festival, but I'll tell you what, that was one heck of a kite festival. Uh they did a great job. And if you didn't get to see any of the kites and with the LEDs in the evening, uh that was just uh it was as good as fireworks almost. But
uh yeah, it it was great. Uh one of the things though that uh I I met a few folks out there um and uh some people knew me, some people didn't, and but they all complained about parking. either they couldn't find parking or the
parking where they did park uh was $10.70 per hour. $10 per hour and then the fees that that was associated with it. Um and I'll tell you, we are we are pissing off a lot of folks that
uh that you know you you sit there and you know that uh they don't even realize they just go up and they put their money in or their time in or whatever. Um, and we're going to be, you know, if if it go continues that direction, we're going to have people, even though it's a great
kite festival, they won't attend it. You know, it's uh and they won't come back. And so, you know, when we said that the city had a good vibe, it had a great vibe, you know, for sand ovations and kites and running and everything else. uh right now uh it's just another
negative for us that uh that that's you know the we're charging $10, you know, per hour. So that that's that's uh that's a little bit ugly. Um I don't know. I I've sat through a lot of these meetings and uh I guess with with that I
I the only thing that comes to mind is that uh you can't make this stuff up. So with that um we will adjourn. Oh my gosh. >> You came up with that.