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e e e e e e everyone please stand for the allegiance I pledge aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to
the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all we need it good evening and welcome welcome to the regular commission meeting of March 18th 2025 all right let's uh we're going to
be a little bit different tonight on the agenda uh because this is a Changing of the Guard for somewhat so we'd like to start off with farewell remarks from the Commissioners and Dev Toth district one thank you and thank you all for
coming um good evening wow eight years I can't believe it's it's been that long it's been an honor and a privilege to serve the residents of Isa CI in the city of treasure isand I would like to thank all of the residents that supported me during my
tenure as commissioner and I would also like to thank all of our past and current members of City staff especially I would like to recognize our former commissioner Phil Collins who served our city before me for 12
years and our former city managers my thanks to our police and fire departments for their unwavering Devotion to the jobs that help keep us safe I will continue to advocate for keeping our own police and fire departments you
rock now the page is turning and another new chapter is upon us I wish the new commission nothing but the best and I hope that you serve continue to serve the best interests of our city
our home it's our slice of paradise it's kind of Bittersweet to be moving on but as the song goes the wheel is turning and you can't slow down you can't let go and you can't hold on you can't go back and you can't stand still if the Thunder
don't get you then the lightning will small wheel turned by the fire and Rod big wheel turn by the grace of God every time that wheel go round bound to cover just a little more ground I wish
you all very well and remember our city is why we're all here why we've had an increase since the hurricanes and it's bittersweet but keep participating and be part of our community thank
you commissioner Karel yes I want to thank my um PE here on the commission that I've served for the last three and a half months with and you mayor thank you very much city clerk Tia and our city manager Chuck Anderson and our City
Attorney Jennifer Cowan and I want to just say congratulations to all of the new com incoming Commissioners I wish you the best of luck and God speed thank you thank you
thank you mayor uh and my thanks to everybody also for not only attending this meeting but for all the support that you excuse me that you've given this past year to me uh it was an interim position uh I vout it would be interim and it's
interim So I dressed appropriately this evening so I can uh I can relax sry that um I also would like to thank City staff from top to bottom chuck all the way down to the department heads all the way down to
staff uh police chief Fire Chief and all the staff there too you all realize I believe and if you don't you ought to what a wonderful City we have we've been through some turmoil uh we're coming out on the other end uh there's actually
some activity going on in the city um this week uh and we hope it continues uh I for myself I'm not going away uh I will be around uh as commissioner Toth said it's bittersweet um to walk away but uh it's
time so my congratulations Arthur carry on my friend uh and thank you all and we do have a plaque for each of you and we'd like to get a picture out front oh okay good
I I didn't go be casual then thank you thank you yes now would uh be the opportunity to invite up our three new Commissioners please come up and tia how would you like to do this uh one at a time going to be coming up and
we'll start with uh district one yep I was going to actually start with you mayor oh okay that we can do as well ah thanks Bob I'm always the Constitution government United States United States and State Court and
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the duties of which I about to enter which I'm about to enter so I'm going to be selfish here for just a moment what we'd like to do is uh there are a lot of family members here uh with the commission and take about five minutes to take some
pictures and then we'll get started so oh yeah my pen feels like a e e e e e e these are ours I guess all right thank
you very much for accommodating us so that we can get some pictures taken and the family members then could move on with their tasks so um we will now take the roll call commissioner Basquez here
commissioner Clark here commissioner suzan here commissioner Dicky here mayor doctor here so thank you we now will move on to the approval of regular and workshop agendas I would like to add something if
the commission uh can agree to add another agenda item okay um it's a little warming here can we turn on there condition so I would like to go out for RFP to find a qualified city of attorney
while we retain Jennifer Cowen for the remainder of her 90 days so we could take our time to do a competitive procurement and a smooth transition Jennifer has about 65 days left okay I'll second all right
everybody good with that sure all right so let us add that and we will add that uh onto uh H6 um I have an issue mayor without objection from the rest of the commission I would
like to see if it would be possible to move the next meeting back a week um prior to being elected I had a work commitment and a trip that I have to attend um I I had to accept because I it was before the election I did not know
whether I would be seated or not and uh I don't expect to miss any other meetings um uh you know throughout the remainder of the here okay um I does anybody uh do we have any issue I
first time that I'm going to be moving a meeting what he's asking for is to move the meeting from the 1st to the 8th of April and uh can we do that at this point um so I mean he's asked to move the meeting that's up to I don't know if
he wants to if you want to add it as an agenda item to have more discussion and and and decide on that matter or whether or not you want to handle that right this minute I'd probably like to handle it now okay so I think it's I don't know what the other schedule of the Commissioners are and you'd also want to
um check with the city manager make sure there's um the rooms available and all of that and that staff would be available so I think he's going to do that commissioner Clark did you say move it forward uh orb or uh uh from the 1 to the eth first to the eth okay thank you
mayor if I could take a look at the agenda for tonight with the first reading of terrain modification we have already advertised for a second reading if there is going to be a second reading having to go with for the next meeting for April 1st and I'm actually not
available April 8th okay so it sounds as though we're going to uh need to keep it at April 1st okay um then I have a second item that I would like to bring up I mayor without objection from the rest of the commission I would like to ask that item
um H5 be delayed until the next meeting agenda um uh as most people have seen from the agenda packet it was over 560 pages that we just got on Thursday um I've spent hours and hours pouring over
those documents but it's impossible to become up to speed on those in that amount of time there I think more questions ands answers have pocked up after reading through that um things about what the effect is going to be on businesses and the cost to businesses
among many other things it looks like we're going to continue to pay Consultants going forward and I you know I've even talked to LPA board members uh and we were you know talking about items we didn't understand on page 75 of the document um so I just think
with three new Commissioners uh we need more time to take a look at this and the fact that this is you know at our first meeting uh with 565 Pages uh I don't care if you try to understand this 24 hours a day you still don't have enough time between Thursday and and today to
be to be up to speed on this so you're asking to table item H5 I I will later if if if if it moves forward but I know what I'm really asking to do is just postpone that to the first reading to be until the next
meeting I think that uh personally I prefer that we uh wait until we get down to uh H5 any I'm all caught I'm all caught up to I'm pretty well versed on what's going on okay so let's just keep the agenda in
place as it is and um and let's move forward okay does anybody have any any other items under uh under the uh under the public there we go hold on all right approval of regular
Workshop agendas yeah so thank you yeah it's uh little bit different here than what I always am used to okay so uh yeah so we'll just move on to uh anything else for approval of regular Workshop agendas okay let's move on to item F
public comments for non-agenda items and the first person Carrie arbach hi everybody uh just want to say congratulations to the new commission you all look good up there um my name is Carrie arbach St Petersburg Dartmouth
Avenue uh North in St Petersburg um as I said my name is Carrie and I run Treasure Island adopted Beach for those of you who don't know but I've met with all of you guys and uh kind of up to speed on what I do here um what I really want to do is tell you um besides the
fact that I partner with keep panales Beautiful by organizing cleanups educational programs as as well as working with the city on many environmental projects sea turtle nesting SE season is coming and I know there's a lot on everybody's plate and I
today met with um code enforcement and Mercedes from the fire department to talk about how I can help with volunteerism to keep the beaches clean clear and dark um it's it's an important thing and I plan on having two separate
kind of workshops on April 15th and 16th at 6:00 p.m. we're going to meet downstairs at the picnic table where I can give you a little bit of a talk about turtles Clearwater Marine Aquarium will be there we will have staff from the city to talk about how we can help
while uh the city is busy with permitting and and all sorts of things that they have on their plate um really want to keep the beaches clean and turtle season last year was a disaster because of the Hurricanes we lost all of
the nests as everybody else did um so keep that please um in your calendar to come I made it two separate nights so hopefully I can have a lot of volunteers and we can get people patrolling the beach um as you may know every second Saturday I have a beach cleanup it runs
out of Sunco sailing across the street from Waffle House and uh we have a lot of fun there because Richie is very generous with his snacks and music and um it it's getting to be a really nice crowd so I just wanted to introduce myself again and let you guys know that
I'll be back thank you thank you car Mark Hoy no not bag good evening I'm Mark hoey 225 104th Avenue Apartment 110 District 3 Arthur first welcome new
Commissioners great to have you on board and uh congratulations I wanted to bring up a bit of old business because again we have some new Commissioners you might recall this bouncing around uh months ago but what I
wanted to bring up is we are still awaiting a honest and straightforward Workshop discussion about how we handle our solid waste and that was committed to many months ago and yes much has happened since then uh understandably
but I don't want us to lose sight of that opportunity uh when it comes to what's we're facing going ahead um finances are tight uh there's a desire for a new Public Works facility which would be dramatically impacted in scale
whether we did or did not have a privatized um solid waste system we would not have the need for such a large building and property under those circumstances so I'm not here to uh decide or even apostolize on one side or
the other it's just we need to get that out on the table table and get a fair look from both sides of it so that the groups that are working on as you will a bit tonight future projects can have a better idea of what's going to be
impacted financially so thank you thank you chuck would you have an opportunity when we do the uh reports to maybe address um that and what the thinking is as far as the solid waste sure thing
mayor yes we could great thank you Ross Sanchez good evening Ross Sanchez 44 Dolphin Drive Treasure Island Florida um just wanted to resurface from the February 18th uh Workshop meeting there was a discussion about uh new
construction build permit fee waivers and it just seems like that had dropped off I haven't seen it on any Workshop or agenda items so I don't know if that's been a topic of discussion but um just wanted to put it back on the radar and welcome every all the new newcomers to the commission thank you thank you you
and I believe that Chuck you'll be addressing that one as well yes mayor thank you Mitchell shankman mayor Commissioners congratulations on your new positions uh I'm here to uh just remind
you folks about uh long time ago um 2010 we did a Treasure Island community visioning engagement there were 22 residents on
this commission oh committee and uh we had nine respondents to a survey that we had uh presented to the community uh the results are here I sent uh all of the
Commissioners the mayor the city manager uh this information if you get a chance i' appreciate if you take a look at it and then five years later we did another Vision steering committee which
was Bridging the future of Treasure Island and as you could see the bridge was completed and that's 10 years ago I think it's time now that we have another Vision steering committee
uh I think it's important for the residents to voice their their views and the direction of the future of Treasure Island so thank you and I hope you take this under consideration thank you
Mitchell Sarah pendon hi Sarah Pennington Isle of Palms um something that I'm hoping to get an update on tonight or in the future is the St Petersburg Municipal Beach parking area across from the Waffle House I know things take time and I know
we've been focusing on permits and I really appreciate that but it does concern me how abandoned and terrible that looks it's not a good look for our city and it concerns me that Treasure Island does not have control over that
and St Petersburg is the one who controls that so I'm wanting to know has anyone been in contact with the city of St Petersburg about this parking lot do we have any updates on when things are going to be repaired could they at least take down the fence and make it safe for
people to use the beach there even if the snack bar can't be repaired at the time it would just be really nice to have some information about what's going on because I think it's important um other than the residents here we're very important but our beach is another very important thing with Treasure Island and
I'd like to see that being addressed soon thanks Chuck I think they stole your notes we will be able to address that one as well Brandy long hi gol Boulevard um congratulations to everybody up here we're so excited
fresh new start um two weeks ago I was asking about the walkovers um particularly in sunshine Beach but I'm sure they're damaged every everywhere so it's been 2 weeks pretty much the only people that are impacted by those walkovers are the residents in the
neighborhoods because that's our only way to get over to the beaches we're not driving and parking in a parking lot even though there's less parking lots but I was just wondering what's the update with with the fix it was one of the top five things and I would be
willing to get quotes for whatever we need if we can just expedite this project cuz that's why we're all here we're here here we want to be able to visit the beach and it's just a really important aspect of our community thank you Nan Provost
yes congratulations to the new Commissioners and Mayors too that's exciting um so my name is Nan privos um I'm a resident in Largo Florida I've been here since 1993 but I'm also a nurse uh 38 years at Morton PL
surgery um during Co I started a nonprofit um I saw where we were heading I've been a nonprofit now since 21 and I'm Suicide Prevention and drug overdose and this is why I'm here today um I've been boots on the ground all along our Coast here from Clear Water down to um
Fort doto um 16 weeks living and helping all of our residents here so I'm I'm kind of want to bring you some feedback of what I've been through and why I'm here tonight so um again this is um what I saw um on our beaches is it's been
horrific and I'm looking at the emergency management and things that I've learned with the drownings that we've been having a lot of as well so um we have a public safety Gap I think um we have lacking of um lifeguards on our
beaches and so this is a free service that I'm able to provide in the nonprofit of bringing out some First Responders we are all doctors nurses and pharmacists um I IR men iron women um capable to run some Disaster Response teams out here and and on the water is
one of them we have a mental health crisis happening on our beaches right now we are boots on the ground like I had said um we are the professionals that can respond very rapidly and we're able to get funding very quickly because of our nonprofit and we can bypass a lot of the red types to bring all the the
money that's needed down here as well to refurbish some of our areas um what we do here looking for support and um for education for water safety and mental health as a public um high priority that we should be looking
at um I think I think one thing that we need is a designated spot here pulling up on our beaches because we have no parking not even for an ambulance to get down here I've seen some of the rescue missions now um that are not Stellar um and I pray for the people that are
trying to get to hospitals with especially tourists with boats and all the congested traff traffic um in our nonprofit um I drive around in a brand new van here it's it holds all kinds of equipment and we're getting an AED right now in as well so we would be kind of
like a first responder before the First Responders get there um so some of the equipment that we've been doing we hand out Suicide Prevention kits we are I look at um our overdoses that we have right now um I work with the federal government Distributing the free Naran
we carry that in our van um I look at we go by ZIP codes um we hand out Suicide Prevention kits so people have stuff in their hands so they know exactly where to go with our without healthcare insurance I run a suicide bement support group I've been three
years at the Largo Library that's free I have people coming from Spring Hill all over there's only two free Suicide Prevention support groups in pelis county and I'm one of them um we had two I I have to say we had two fire two firefighters just died by Suicide Less
in 9 days and I'm meeting with these families so this is the critical stuff that I'm trying to talk about um what I've been doing and I think would be an asset um we pull up in our van we have all the water equipment we have a inflatable boats that are 15 ft long 5T
wide and we are able to actually go out and save people on this water waiting for anyone else to get there we're literally we camp up we we bring our tents and all of our gear and we and what I want to do is be that first responder and I wanted to divide it up
between clear water all the way down to Fort doto and dedicate a couple days a week to be that that um Emergency Management on the beach in a tent with our inflatable paddle boards for any rip ties education for any drownings that might be happening that we can be there
before the response team can get there have the AED in our hand so this way you know we can alleviate that problem of the gap of them getting down there to take care of people um I've been a up and down the beaches through this whole entire thing I was a free coffee bar
going down all of our residents handing out coffee everybody was crying for coffee I was the water distribution going to all through our neighborhoods I was a Smoothie Bar um I was a charging station I'm a do all Center out of this van that I have right now and so I just
wanted you guys to be aware of this this capability that is I'm offering near free it doesn't cost you guys anything I'm able to bring this through my SP spors and donors outside in the community to bring this year free so basically that's it I have a great big plan I actually made copies for
everybody so in case I miss anything but we do a lot that that's saving people and we are helping people and I think that's something that we should look at that should be our high priority thank you thank you for all you do all right I do not see any additional
items anyone else Mr baso Rober baso I love Capri she got me at the worst Smoothie Bar I I'm all for that again welcome aboard what a goodlooking crew here um I read through the 10,000 pages of the agenda tonight a
lot of reading um uh one thing I didn't notice I noticed the uh each department has their bullet point to what they're going emphasize one thing I didn't see was something like Lessons Learned for the last two disasters that we've had um as as Chuck knows from our military experience let's has learned is a very
important discipline I'm recommending again uh that maybe like around May or so we have a full work day workshop that's moderated of Lessons Learned U have every Department get up there give her give her an elevator speech five minutes or so of what they've they did
um to prepare and respond and recover from this It's really informative and it's going to really help us to get ready for the next disaster which is going to happen okay it's like like from public information to Public Works to Fire Department police uh city manager City attorney
everybody get a chance to say what they did and what can they they can do better I really think that's important to do is it's called lesson learned and maybe a moderated open to the public thing um also something I mean code Code Enforcement I think is something that we
haven't looked at a lot um I really have a lot of respect I think we need more of it um I do a lot a lot of vacant homes uh a lot of uh things that look look abandon to me and I talked to code enforcement it seems that they don't really have a lot of tools and I'd like
to you guys to take a look at this term as to maybe giving code enforcement some some tools I'm all about carrot I love the carrot approach I'm I'm all about that I'm not a cancel guy uh but we do need to have a little bit of the of the of the of the tail uh which is the
sword um good enforcement and I think they don't have that right now um again thanks for your time uh welcome aboard I think we have a great team ready to go here and we're going to do great things in 2025 thank you thank you and I'm now going to close public
comments and move on to commissioner reports so commissioner Vasquez that still sounds odd um thanks everyone for coming um I uh just really appreciate the confidence
that my district um has put in me to represent them um definitely the most important thing to me is that they are represented um in so many of these meetings um we do hear from a certain segment but there's a lot of them that don't come to meetings but they're
watching at home and those are the ones that reach out and you know they may be a little intimidated to come and speak in front of people um but they're not afraid to reach out personally and I really not only want to represent those of of my constituents that are here but
also the ones in in my neighborhood who are afraid to come to a meeting that are intimidated by it because they need a voice as well and the most important thing to me is to get our Island back and better than ever um we all know we all know what it looks like right now
and my goal is to serve each and every one of you whether you are in my district or not and to ultimately not only make my neighborhood but everyone's neighborhood our downtown everywhere look better and get our Island back where it needs to be and that's my goal and thank you guys so much again for
being here thank you commissioner Clark yeah first off I want to just want to say um that I'm happy to be here I look forward to working with my fellow Commissioners the city manager and the city staff um I
really want to thank the community that came out to vote um I I do want to work for all residents and um but I do vow to hold true to the issues that I campaigned on um in the campaign and that I heard loud and clear from the
district 2 residents um those are keeping the permits moving and making sure that we don't let off the gas pill with that uh Common Sense government here in TI I heard that come up many many times and and that's that's a big
goal of mine um developing treasure is into a bustling small town we currently have buildings that are falling down parking lots in our downtown and I would like this to be a bustling small town uh and I want to make it clear that doesn't
mean clear water that doesn't mean 22 story buildings and that doesn't mean any of that that means a bustling small town that we can all be proud of um supporting our local infrastructure including our lift stations um balancing our budget and and getting a handle on
waste spending and uh a commitment to our police and fire I think is incredibly important I think we're lucky to have what we have here um and lastly um I think Mr bazo brought it up a
minute ago you know working on disaster prevention now for this if in case this happens again and and also that goes along with Lessons Learned I feel like we were caught completely flat-footed by this storm I am not one believes it's
going to be another hundred years before this happens um so we we we have to be ready um I also um want to give a no out to uh former appointed commissioner krael um for running a good campaign I
know she worked really hard we both worked hard uh we kept it clean and focused on the issues so I I just want to give a shout out to her and and lastly um I I what I want to do is I learned so much going door to door talking to Residents uh I'm going to
work on getting a District Two form together where I Contin can continue to hear from the residents you know on a monthly basis so I can keep on the pulse of what our residents in District 2 want
and need so thank you thank you very much commissioner suan well I didn't prepare anything for my welcome speech but uh my desire as a Commissioners who do the best I can to be the voice of my fellow neighbors to restore and rebuild
our city and uh help make the progress we all deserve um and I hope I don't disappoint um something else I like to bring up I'd like to acknowledge commissioner Dicky and his wife Donna for the countless weeks of volunteering in the permitting department they
deserve the recognition for many weeks they've helped countless residents that were experiencing their Darkest Hours in their homes were devastated I know many of my constituents spoke highly of their willingness to help and the comfort and hope they provided thank you thank you
appreciate that uh lastly uh I would like to acknowledge Jason bisel uh the Treasure Island public information officer uh between Jason's and Tampa Bay Beach's Chamber of Commerce communication before during and after the Hurricanes were superb so thank you Jason keep up the good
work that's that's it commissioner Dicky uh I just wanted to I know they're not here uh already but hopefully they're watching I give my formal thanks and appreciation uh to the outgoing Commissioners uh in particular commissioner Toth and commissioner Min
they gave uh 10 plus years of their life uh their sacrifices and service to this city and I've been doing this for one year and it feels like 10 years so I can't imagine what uh what doing it for 10 years would be like but anyway my uh
my sincere gratitude and appreciation to those those people uh I also want to uh add my congratulations to the new Commissioners and I look forward to working with you and congratulations mayor as well so uh very happy to be working with all of you and the on a
smaller issue but important to Sunset Beach is our Beach Pavilion playground will be opening either late this week or early next week so that's a that's a big deal especially for the families that have uh small children out there uh the Beach Pavilion The Pavilion itself is
still closed and unsafe and I say that because all too frequently I see people climbing under uh or not climbing under going under the yellow tape around there and and walking around that Pavilion and it's very very unsafe so I encourage uh
our residents and visitors to stay out of that area that's all I have thank you of course the the biggest thing facing us as a commission as a as a city uh as as people and communities um is to get
all the rest of the permits out and we're working very hard for that um the next big phas is though is going to be uh getting all of the work done through inspectors coming out and making sure that uh that that doesn't take forever
and um so as as the the permits are kind of ramping down the inspections are going to be ramping up and we need to make sure that we uh and I believe we are prepared for that uh for the activity to really switch now to that uh inspection side of the equation the
second big thing is we have suffered a lot of damage uh probably as much as anybody for the size of our city and our residents and everything else we've probably been hit the hardest um you know when you take a look at where was the the highest water and surge uh um
they're saying that basically it was right here between madira Beach and Treasure Island which which basically is John's Pass and that's 7 feet plus so there's a there's a lot of of damage from that then we got hit with Milton right afterwards which then with the
wind and taking off some roofs and the landscaping and things flying and everything else um and it's going to cost a lot of money to redo that so I I want to let people know that we do have uh a committee uh that has been put together uh and I I
appreciate our city manager and I see a lot of the folks out in the audience that are volunteering uh to to help on that as well um there's a lot of money available but we need a lot of money there's $813 million available for pelis County minus St Petersburg because they
already took their piece of it they negotiated their own little deal but $813 million that's out there uh there's also another Pool of money $400 million that's uh and they they don't they don't intermingle they basically are two
separate type pools so um we're looking hard we're working with our County Commissioners and the County Commissioners are going to be very important to us because they're going to be the ones that are basically going to take a look at everything submitted by everybody in panel's county and then decide how much money goes where so uh
we're we're working very hard for that uh it's going to be you know several months uh before or we actually are able to submit everything and but uh I want to to let you know that uh that we are all going to work as hard as we can with the County Commission to make sure that
we get as as much damage repaired as we can and uh and move on as as a city stronger than uh than what it was before so that's uh everything under the commissioner reports and at this point now we'll be uh moving on to our uh
items of business the first part of our items of business is nomination and election of a vice mayor um and then what we're going to do as well is appointment of City commissioners to local boards for 2025 and uh attorney uh
Jen um this is a point I believe that these would be administrative issues so that we would not be having any public comment yeah so the nomination election of vice mayor is an administrative issue and so is your appointments to your local boards um thereafter all the
matters are right for public comment okay great thank you okay so let's uh let's be begin up here by opening it up for nominations of election of vice mayor I make a motion to nominate Tammy Vasquez as vice mayor for oneyear term
until March 2026 election I will second all right do we have any other nominations well I would like to nominate myself but I I I I think I I'll
nominate myself okay so we have any others okay we have two nominations um I I guess that what we'll do is uh is see how the first nominee is uh is Tammy Vasquez and um let's uh see
who is uh going who is going to be the the person to move forward and uh and say if they're going to vote for so I guess we've got uh first and a second um I will be the third and um I think that
that uh probably ties it up in a knot okay just so that we have a clear record in the minutes we will do the a motion a motion a second and a vote yes please okay so we did have a motion and a
second um and so can we call rooll commissioner z i commissioner Clark I commissioner Vasquez I commissioner dicki I mayor doctor I thank you all right congratulations thank
you on uh now moving on appointment uh of City commissioners to local boards for 2025 we do have uh let's see one two three four five six six boards I'm counting uh they are Barrier Islands government Council which
is the big CA Gulf Beach's Public Library panella's uh Continuum of Care Sun Coast League of cities Tampa Bay Regional planning Council and Treasure Island madira Beach Chamber so uh can I say something before
we start sure absolutely thank you so treasur Island meder Beach Chamber of con Commerce is now called panel's beaches chamber they now focus on the entire beaches in panel's County however so does Tampa Bay beaches Chamber of Commerce we should support both Chambers equally as they support Treasure Island
businesses and residents alike my experience with Tay beaches is Das D drastically different than the newly formed penel County uh or penel beaches chamber so I'd like to suggest to the commission and to the city manager to pull this required seat our Economic
Development d uh director Joan Goodrich should work independently with the panel's county or panel's beaches chamber and Tampa Bay beaches Chamber of Commerce moving forward is there any votes to uh remove the required seat
um I'll tell you what I have been there two years running um I I I I wouldn't be in favor of pulling it um it might be something that we could add the Tampa Bay beaches I'm in
favor of that if they're willing to accept that yep that was one of the ones I was interested in the the chamber okay I know your name's on there but you're on two so I'm not sure okay yeah the the
one the last one the the uh what pelis Treasure Island and madira Beach which is now the pelis beaches yeah that would be good yeah Tampa Bay beaches doesn't have a required SE so I'm just curious how that would work or if that's something that they're interested in I definitely think we
should look at that I mean I think that's fair if they both serve the beaches right yeah uh I don't know if they they would have to be interested in doing it that way as well they'd probably have to take a vote so I don't know that we can vote on that not each by any means because we don't have them
uh here in attendance sure okay that's all I got to say okay any other comments I'm definitely interested in the Sun Coast League of cities that's U definitely something that I would love to sit on that board for
sure I'm glad to hear hear you say that because I was willing to give up one of the two that I'm on and uh that was the one that I was uh hoping you would pick up so I I would like to stay uh as our representative uh with the Tampa Bay Regional planning
Council okay I'll be interested in the golf Beach's Public Library all right if I may so I will commissioner Toth was also interested in staying with the board for um the public library in our contract we
don't necessarily need a commission member to be on the board however if you are interested I'm okay with that that's fine no that's okay I just wanted to mention it because I know that she really wants to stay on the board absolutely the more residents are involved the that's the best mayor and
Commissioners if I could I did receive an email from um Mr Stanley Silverstein or Silverstein today and he is the director of the gulf Beach's library and he asked if commissioner or former commissioner Toth could remain on the board if the commission would allow that
that they would be very receptive and appreciate the effort okay that's fair so and and you're okay with that Arthur yeah I'm okay with that absolutely all all right uh so Tampa Bay Regional planning
Council uh is that that's one I'd like to continue stay on absolutely so uh let's take a look what else do we have there okay so uh the The Big C the Barrier Islands government that is the uh the mayors of of the uh City
administra Sol without anybody remain on that as uh as the mayor Gul Beach is public life Library we're going to leave with uh Deb Toth sure okay um pelis Continuum of
Care looks like that's an open position that is an open position guess I'll take that one okay then we've got uh Sun Coast League of cities and that is uh vice mayor
Vasquez Tampa Bay uh Regional planning Council I just said that that one and then uh so with Treasure Island madira Beach Chamber um we could can we wait to fill
some of these positions or this position in particular you can because if if we would do the same with the Tampa Bay beaches uh chamber then uh you'd be interested in
that yeah okay uh and you're interested the the last one yeah okay all right does anybody have any issue so we're going to need to make a motion mayor before you make the motion I just wanted to ask for sunos Le of
cities you normally have an alternate um are you going to continue to serve as the alternate or I'd prefer not to serve as the alternate but I will do so if necessary I'll I'll take that as the alternate okay okay
great do the any of the others require alternates the only other um one that has an alternate is the GF beaches public library and currently former um commissioner Wetzel is serving in that position okay
okay I saw her earlier okay all right so then what we need to do is make sure that we uh we get all the right people here uh Tia were you following along as we were the only one I don't have is a TI
chamber that's commissioner Clark thank you yes so just to make sure I have everything right for Big C I have mayor doctor for SLC I have vice mayor vquez
and the alternate is commissioner Dicky for the library we're going to keep TOS on there and then the alter is Beth Wetzel for the Tampa Bay Regional planning Council that's going to be commissioner dicki and for the ti chamber that is commissioner Clark and
for the Panella COC that is commissioner cison correct yes thank you so do we have a motion as R yes motion as R okay do we have a
second second okay all in favor well let's back up this is the one that uh yeah we don't have to do public comment because it's administrative okay so all in favor uh or actually roll call vice mayor Basquez I commissioner
dicki I commissioner Clark hi commissioner suzan hi mayor doctor hi thank you all right now we'll move on to H3 appointment of city clerk
and do we have staff is Jessica there she is hi hello even my apologies um so yes uh we agreed on a contract for the new city clerk Lisa Marie Kennedy she is
actually here in the audience with us today um so the the contract has been agreed upon um with her and mayor doctor if you have any questions please let me know okay has uh everybody read through
the contract yes yes okay so uh any questions of Jessica or myself no no she definitely looks like the most qualified happy and she's in the audience here today absolutely we're very happy to have her yes we very we
are very happy okay um do we have a motion I guess I guess that's me now I uh move that we approve the appointment of the city clerk resolution 20254 second we have a motion and a
second uh opening up to uh public comment do we have any public comment no public comment okay so we'll close public comment and any commmission uh discussion no okay no roll call please
vice mayor basz I commissioner suzan hi commissioner Clark hi commissioner dicki hi mayor doctor hi thank you thank you welcome H4 I'm so sorry I just wanted to say thank you for the opportunity and I look forward to working with all of you thank
you great thank you mayor doctor yes could I just I just wanted to mention Tia you have done an amazing job um you had big shoes to fill and I believe you've done an amazing job so thank you for that I just wanted to
definitely tell you that you've you've been wonderful absolutely I say he moving on H4 second and final hearing of ordinance 202-02 ordinance 20 25-2 an ordinance of the city of Treasure Island Florida amending the fiscal year 2025 general
fund budget to recognize insurance proceeds of $483,500 severability conflict and an effective date any questions I think it was uh well discussed last time and uh we know
what's happening with the money and we're happy to see it go back into the coffers and uh we'll be having this conversation in two weeks great thank you okay is there any public hearing hearing none we'll close public
hearing anybody have any discussion here on the commiss all right all right roll call please vice mayor Basquez I do we have a motion we have a oh no we didn't have the motion I move that we approve budget
amendment 2025 d02 um the uh insurance proceeds second we have a motion in a second uh now please roll call Vi mayor Vasquez I
commissioner Clark I commissioner suzan hi commissioner Dicky hi mayor doctor I all right and our last item of the evening H5 it's the first reading of the train modification program is outlined
in ordinances all eight of them there mayor doctor we added the sixth item yes you're right we do have in the sixth item that we're going to put in place I did not write that down mayor doctor at this time do you
want me to read the titles of all six or do you want to have the presentation first and uh let's do the presentation first thank you good evening mayor and Commissioners I wanted to note that uh Justin Keller is here with us as noted
in the previous meetings um we are not paying for his services to be here tonight but he is here on a volunteer basis so we have been through extensive presentations not with this commission so I'm going to keep it short but we're happy to answer any questions that you
may have about the program uh we will go through the ordinances that are being adopted because it's important for you to understand why there are eight ordinances and what those changes are the terrain modification program grew out of the adopted watershed management
plan which was a state grant-funded project which inventoried the city storm waterer system evaluated the system's performance looked ahead at infrastructure performance under sea level rise scenarios and concluded that our current no fill policies are not viable future
planning must include some type of terrain modification and this plan was adopted by the city Commission in 2021 the terrain modification program looks at how do we provide a reasonable storm water level of service when this
is the proposed daily title elevation in 2100 as you can see we are currently already experiencing sunny day flooding this was on June 7th 2023 in Sunset Beach and this was a pre rainfall title flooding in
2024 the 2021 adopted watershed management plan identified that elevation of the low-lying sections of the city and the roadway network over the long term was the approach to be used in response to sea level rise so that brings us to the terrain
modification program and what the terrain modification program is it is a comprehensive plan to address sea level rise in a manner that preserves the quality of life that our community enjoys today we are can see that um sea
level rises already affecting our storm water drainage and our system is less efficient at draining rainwater during High Tides as The Tide Rises water backs up into the pipes and floods the roadways and this is known as sunny day
flooding this is a program on changing the way that we build sites homes businesses seaw walls and Roads to address today's challenges and prepare us for the continued impact that sea level rise will have on our community the program as now designed is
allows the use of Phill on a voluntary basis so what this led to is there are eight ordinances that are part of this package and I will go through them briefly as to what they each involve some of this simply involves moving some
language from one section to another there are not total revisions to a lot of these section c s so for some unknown reason our code used to have um two different uh chapters that were called utilities one
was in chapter 54 and one was in chapter 75 so we have kept chapter 54 which is going to accomp Encompass utility fees billing and Water Conservation um so we took the storm
water management out of this chapter and we moved sanitary sewer and everything to from chapter 75 to this chapter chapter 75 is now called portable water sanitary sewer and reclaimed water
and once again we moved um storm water out of here and moved charges fees and Billings back to chapter 54 that we just talked about and got put the all the drainage in with the storm water Provisions so our new chapter is chapter
76 which deals with storm water so we have created a set of definitions to go with storm water um which are very common things that you will see in any ordinance related to storm water we deal with uh npdes which is the national pollutant
discharges we deal with how to record things we deal with how to manage storm water uh this chapter has an intent and a purpose Innovative approaches green infrastructure where it applies what's
exempt from it what documents are Incorporated and goes into required design for water quality water quantity storm water conveyance and storm water collection uh con so that what is highlighted in blue in these ordinances
are new things that have been added what's already there was in the old chapters and was moved um we have storm water and surface water pollution and then we're moving into chapter 66 which our is our flood plane
management chapter um some of it that is housekeeping like updating the address of City Hall you will see that um we have moved a lot of things from the building code into the flood plane code
for ease of use a lot lot of the things that were in our building code were flood plane related and a lot of the things that were in the building code were also now incorporated into the Florida building code and did not need to be in our local ordinances so um we've revised the
permitting requirements um we've updated the site plan requirements and we've updated the definitions to incorporate things related to terrain modification um we revised the requirements for
elevation certificates these are a lot of housekeeping items where people are turning in things that did not meet the FEMA regulations so we've clarified those and spelled them out how these were done in the new regulations um we've moved some other things from the building code and how to
drive flood prooof and the main thing that's of interest is limitations on placement of fill was significantly revised to allow the use of fill in our flood plane ordinances um the other things that have been
changed was deck and patios in coastal High Hazard areas in zone B and Coastal a zones revised the regulations of certain decks and patios so they follow the terrain modification manual and non-structural fill in coastal high-hazard areas and Coastal a zones
was deleted so for those of you who are not familiar with those terms the the uh vzone and the coastal a zone are the areas of highest wave activity and they basically encircle the island of Treasure Island so they're on the front of the island all the way along the
coast and then they wrap around the back of the island coming down around Kingfish and hit all the outer points of Capri and Palms um on the outside and then wrap down come through downtown and out through Paradise they go through the to
the back of paradise and then um they do not go on the backside of sunset so those are the zones in our city where Phil is limited to two feet um and that is a FEMA regulation coming out of the national flood insurance program that is
not a local Amendment it's just something that is that we're compliant with chapter8 was updated to uh note the current statutes uh we got made this code more generic so it can live through time so
no longer references old building code years and it just says the currently addition uh adopted addition of the Florida building code same thing with the fire prevention code um we remove some references that were no longer
applicable we um defined substantial damage and substantial Improvement and we um put in some permitting and design requirements limitation but everything else related to flood was moved to chapter
66 and for the for reference both chapter 8 and chapter 66 are required to be reviewed at the state level before they come to the commission and they have been reviewed and approved by the state flood plane
office uh going into the zoning which is uh chapter 68 we have new definitions to go along with terrain modification and some things to just clarify codes for like fences walls and hedges um the items in blue were the
ones defin specifically related to terrain there was also a lot of cleanup here as as we've discussed at previous commission meetings our code is quite Antiquated and so while we were revising these codes we decided to clean up um bad references and things that were
easily cleaned up that were not policy driven um we'll be talking later tonight uh that we are working on the Land Development regulations in a separate packet to make those changes throughout the land development regulations but while we were here we've we were
bringing these up to code um so we made a lot of changes that simply were there to reference either the watershed management plan or the terrain modification um language in the code we looked at um setbacks we looked at um
lot and bulk and all of those sections had to be changed to reference the different types of grade that are in the terrain code so we talk about um terrain modification height adjustment factor and that is
something that if someone is raising their house by 2 feet they get that 2 feet back in height on the top so it doesn't uh disincentivize raising the lowest floor um we also have another
factor that gives you a little bit of more stair run based on that factor of how much you're raising your floor so that you get that back as well uh we revised um chapter 69 which is our marine structures and Commercial
Fishing chapter which mainly all of the changes in this code have to do with seaw walls and living shorelines and so we created definitions for um things that were needed in order to explain this uh or clarifi the definitions that
we had um we clarified that making our more consistent with the countywide requirements for seaw walls we uh put in application requirements to explain what's needed we um did seaw walls to ex
include uh modern seaw wall construction requirements ours were very Antiquated the standards that we had we were always having to default to the last line in our code that said or any other system designed by a professional engineer because the systems that we were specking were very
Antiquated uh so we always were defaulting to using a professional engineer to Def to design a seaw wall type um construction materials now covers the right materials the materials people use today um and I'll mention it
later but we've had uh workshops with seaw wall contractors on this as well um so we have all of that related to seaw walls um so the last ordinance or the first ordinance however you want to look at it is the actual terrain modification
manual and this is an engineering manual that gives you a goal for each type of development and when we talk about types of development what we're talking about is single family home would have a different type of development than a commercial property uh a seaw wall obviously is different than a building
so those are the different there are four different categories which I'll explain in a moment so we have a defined process as to how you design so this is basically an engineering manual for the designer um we need requirements in here
for how to use fill because we don't want to impact our standing with the national flood insurance program we don't want to impact the rainfall-based flood plane we don't want to alter how storm water moves across the terrain
and when we look at sites not every site will be the same some will have different amounts of fill it's going to be a case-by casee basis and as outlined in this program now it's completely voluntary so you can have zero fet of fill you can have one foot of fill or
you can go all the way to the goal height if you can get there based on engineering so there will be limiting factors like driveway slopes or um your lot is very very small and you need to slope land away from your building to keep your building safe so there will
there could be limiting factors on any site it just depends where your neighbors are where your Topography is um if you're in a V or Coastal a Zone uh you likely will uh you will only have 2 feet Max of fill so you're likely don't have any type of retaining walls which
are very very limited in their Construction in a vzone anyway um for businesses downtown there's an option of Drive flood proofing so that's where anything down below the um FEMA outline
flood elevation you can do what's called dry flood proofing and rather than um not using your ground floor um all properties still drain to the road and no one can drain on their neighbors and that's a very important caveat of this program because people
are concerned when they see feel coming into a project next door they want to make sure that it's designed to keep that water going either to the road or over the the seaw wall um basically sites are designed in Treasure Island to drain in two ways they either the water goes over the seaw
wall or the water goes into the road collected in storm water pipes and goes out and we want to make sure it keeps going that way so the program was built with goals so for a building the base floor goal
which would be in a typical house your garage floor is 7' 6 we're going to say that the ter in Treasure Island ranges we can see it as low as 3T the existing Terrain in Sunset to somewhere around five a little bit over five in some
parts of the city so um if we could get people's uh lowest floor to 76 that would help to get them above the flood waters or the Rainy Day flood days um for the roads we would like to get
them at 5.1 that's a long-term goal um all of this program is really looking at a threshold of 2100 trying to do this over a very very long period of time uh top of a coastal erosion structure or a seaw wall is at
5.0 but the key is that you don't have to meet these goals these are just goals so we typically see that people would run through a scenario where they said okay I'm going to try to put my house at 76 I'm going to put my house as high as I can and they run some numbers and they
say oh that would make my driveway slope too great you know my car would be here instead of here so they're going to back off and say let me run it at 7:00 and see what happens and they may say oh on a very very small lot maybe I can only get to six so you're going to you're
going to work backwards through from the goal or you may decide that you don't want to bring all that fill in and you don't have to so as we just noted you don't have to achieve the goals they're there if you want to achieve them uh the only exception to that I'm going to say is a
seaw wall a seaw wall has a set of five it always has had five in our code and I haven't yet met the person who didn't want to elevate their seaw wall as much as possible I can say that there are certain circumstances where the low
floor of your house is below five and we are never going to have a scenario where your seaw wall is higher than your house floor because that's not a good plan for anyone um there are limiting factors for fill which we talked about in the coastal a
and v zones you are limited to 2 feet of fill you've got your driveway slope that we talked about it and we've got your low floor how how does that relate to the road in the seaw wall you because you never want to put your house in a bowl and your slopes you want to slope
away from your house it's required in the building code um so what does that mean would you need a retaining wall if you put a lot more fill Maybe maybe you say I don't want to um just a look quick look this is uh
the ends of Capri you see this red line so everything outside this red line is Coastal a zone or V zone so those are sites that will not be able to go beyond 2 fet of fill and this kind of wraps all the way around the outside of the
islands as I noted um there are four different classes of development that's why the manual is very repetitive so like in the single family and two family there's a a methodology you will see that repeated a different methodology in commercial and
multif family you will see that for roadways and Parkways and you will see it for things like seaw walls so going back through the history of this program uh we began taking this program to the local planning agency in
December of 2023 we had numerous meetings we broke it up into subjects because as you know it's a very um lengthy program so we talked about different chapters we talked about the manual we talked about chapter 8 and chapter 66 we did those first because
those had to go to the state for review um then we talked about seaw walls we talked about um U all of those utility chapters that we discussed and we talked about um chapter 8 and 66 in a
final format and then we led to a final meeting with the LPA in December of 2024 and the LPA recommended this program to the city commission with eight conditions that are
noted so we other reviews that we had of this program we had a seaw wall contractor meeting where we discussed this we presented this at the Tampa Bay Regional planning Council Regional resiliency Summit we um had a meeting
with Architects and Engineers to talk about building construction and we had a meeting with real estate professionals um in July we overviewed the program with the city Commission in August um we went back to the commission
to talk about scheduling the program at this meeting the commission directed staff to have one-on-one meetings with the Commissioners to determine the direction and the schedule as we all know quite a then thing started to happen so we had several hurricanes that kind of got in
the way this came back to the city Commission on December the 3D um with in a workshop to review the ordinances um and they asked to remove the cumulate cumulative substantial
Improvement and the change from 50 to 49% and to retain the requirement to use fill for newer elevated structures uh the LPA then approved the program uh with conditions which were
eight conditions those where no new seaw walls are required no new retaining walls are required no new docks are required structural and non-structural fill are allowed no mandate to elevate for the first 10 years of the program
owners do not have to go to the goal height a signed and sealed drainage plan is required and the LPA will re-evaluate the program every two years so in January this came back to the commission um to review the
ordinances and they asked us to bring this back with all of those changes Incorporated and then in February the commission directed us to bring this back on March 18th and April 1st and I wanted to kind of note that we're in a time of unprecedented new
construction due to the all the destruction that the city experienced from the Hurricanes we have seen and will continue to see a much greater than normal amount of new construction or um major renovation or elevation of structures so um just to give you an
idea of the full demos we have 92 full residential demos we have 10 full commercial demos and the when I say full I mean the entire building these are not interior demos these are full structure demos um we have eight applications in
right now to elevate homes on existing homes and we have um seven new single family uh in addition to those permits there are 97 properties in the city that have applied to elevate Florida program
and that's a program that will um where the state would be elevating existing structures so the adoption of these ordinances could have a lasting impact on the City by allowing Phill now um one of the other questions we've
been asked was the cost and uh this has been presented to the commission before but I wanted to run through it with you um we have two new builds that are highlighted here the first one is on 100 is the first picture on the
top that is a on 115th Avenue in Isle of Palms used as a scenario that's a lot that's 70 by 110 and that has a cost um associated with um raising it and you can see that
this one has guard uh guards retaining walls and a maximal amount of fill um this is not in a coastal a or V Zone this one has several feet of fill uh of $193,600
that is is calculated at the most amount of fill that you could bring in um on a very large lot so on a street where you have the most room to fill the second example at the bottom of
the page is a new build in the coastal a or V Zone where you're limited to 2 feet of fill and the cost on that one um and you'll see it doesn't have retaining walls is $22,700 so we're here to answer any questions you might have or Katherine I do have a
question can you go back to the last slide please certainly uh so number two I know when we when I met with you uh you mentioned that the cost of the fill was uh a little bit more than average I think you had it
at um it was yes we did look at those numbers and I did discuss them with Justin and I'm happy to let him speak for himself but this was calculated at a pretty much worst case scenario and this includes all the site development cost the compacting of the soil not the soil
alone but the compacting of the soil and um prepping the site gotcha thank you but there was a large discrepancy between the $16 cubic yard that we had a quote for and the
$15 a cubic yard that's reflected here Katherine If This Were to be approved tonight uh how soon could we start bringing build dirt in so this is first reading so this would go to Second reading on April the
1st um and we have an adoption date of May 1st in there giving staff time to reach out to everyone make sure they know the requirements if they want to change the permits they have in and get ready to you know take this through we also um
have um training sessions with our three Consulting engineering firms that we use to review all our permits now our Consulting civil firms and so we would have a training session with them as well thank you I have a question um on let me see
that was on page 538 I believe um the the business impact yes so in looking through these it looks like uh of the eight ordinances five of them um and especially the first one
which I believe uh is what 20241 is that's the train modification manual um it talks about the impact on businesses says uh Item B cost are indeterminable um and the number of
business like to impact it is unknown so can you explain to me you know where we get that certainly um we do not know because this program is completely voluntary we do not know how many people will choose to do it and we don't know
to what level they will choose to do it if they if they choose to use Phil then there would be a cost involved um okay other than permit fees are there any cost that the city adds to
uh filling any of these uh examples you you used here other than permit fees so there's permit fees and there would be a civil engineering review fee roughly how much are those so those are typically hourly they're set in our fee schedule
um don't have it in front of me but um I think $125 an hour I would say a typical one would be an hour to two hours okay thank you so all the Cure associated with actually bringing in the fill dirt and having the
correct slope the design and all that yes there would be a cost to the applicant to do that um you know these commercial projects already have a civil engineer on their team that's a requirement of getting a permit to begin with um residential construction you
typically have an architect there's no reason that they can't do this whether they're going to do it or not I can't I can't tell you their license allows them to do it thank you and I just kind of want to reiterate
what you already said um I I spent days on this um we've had it for quite a while now and thank you for meeting with whoever of us and as much as we wanted to um because it is a lot but um
definitely I mean I read through because as a business owner the business impact I mean obviously my home as well but business business impact is hugely important to me um and I exactly what you said I saw no business impact as far
as it affecting businesses unless one they choose to do it and like anything with whatever you're building whether it's business or or your private home um anything extra that you want to do is going to cost extra so it to me it's just like the cost of doing
business um so I just kind of wanted to reiterate that that I scoured especially the business impact statement because God knows our businesses you know have been through a lot as have all the people that you know the residents so I just kind of wanted to reiterate that as
well that I I didn't personally and I find that really important find any business impact um other than just normal fees that it would that it would uh cost for adding to a project the other question I have is
in reading through like the original kind of QC review contract and some of the things that have been presented in the past it's unclear to me um so are we still going to have to pay these engineering firms to approve and go over each one of these um uh plans after they
are submitted so yes when they come in for permitting now um if there's a civil element to it it goes to a civil engineer uh those are pass through fees that go to the applicant okay so we're going to continue to then have we're not going to do this in house
we're going to have to pay each time that one of these goes out to be looked at yes it would go to one of our three already contracted civil engineering firms okay um next question would be can they so you're telling me they
cannot tell you that based on you want to go to a foot and a half they cannot tell you that based on that plan that you have to put in uh a retaining wall or you have to do something that's going to cost you a lot of additional money
you can just say no I'm not doing that the owner could you're you're asking the owner could the whoever's um going to be approving the permit these outside engineering firms so they're going to make sure that it meets the requirements in the manual that they've
got the proper slopes they've got the proper drainage okay and this correct me if I'm wrong this manual was designed to go along originally with Elevate TI when everything was going to be elevated and now we're changing it since since it's
that that's no longer going to be the case yes so this manual is an engineering manual to show you how to design the site okay so we're retrofitting this to
non um non Elevate TI standards I guess you would say well it's voluntary and it's fil dirt and anytime you do any of that you want engineering to approve it I would think because I mean I as someone who lives next door to a home who um back
whenever they were allowed to bring in Phil it was built um or they just did it um the house next to us sits higher than we do and on a really rainy day um it definitely flows right into our side of
the house and it causes an issue so we had to work on drainage and such um so I I mean I I would want an engineer to look at it to make sure that that's not going to happen um to my neighbor I mean for myself and I'm just speaking from
personal experience is somebody who has a house whose neighbor flows into my yard yeah I I agree but I I I'm trying to keep from continuing do you have to pay outside firms to to look at all this because but that's passed on to the homeowner
yeah but the homeowner it's but it's also voluntary it's not ma it's not mandated it's voluntary and I mean I personally have spoken to numerous residents who are waiting to rebuild their house and I
spoke to one this afternoon and um you know they would love to come and speak um they also are business owners and you know she felt very intimidated to come and speak for this ordinance and she asked that I speak for her because she
and her husband are waiting for this because they want to elevate and they're willing to pay the cost to do it to get as high as they can um their house wasn't even substantially damaged but they are choosing to tear their house down and
Elevate and you know I told her you know I would I would definitely voice her opinion um and that's exactly what I'm doing and and she and she's not the only one there's been numerous residents um that I've talked to that they want this
and again it's voluntary anybody who knows me knows if it was a mandate I'd be out there's no way but when I have residents in my community asking me for this um you know they're willing um matter of fact the estimate came back on
there 120 by 70 lot um came back somewhere in the 27,000 27 to $32,000 areas the estimate that came back for their lot and they're on Sixth Street in Isa Capri um so they would be
in that um the uh what are they vzone I believe it's called yes that's what I thought so that's what their estimate from um their contractor came back at so okay just
say any additional comments for staff if now we'll Now open up a public comment and uh first one is Richard Harris thank you Commissioners and welcome new Commissioners Richard Harris
374 Bay Plaza I am also the chairman of the local planning agency and I've been a registered professional civil engineer for the last 38 years lot grading is what I did for a living for a hell of a long lot of years we started uh this
program like Katherine said back in December 21st 2023 it uh first thing that hit me was thank God we can finally get rid of this uh prohibition of uh Phill imported Phill into Treasure Island I even
changed the name I just call it removal of the prohibition of imported fill into Treasure Island uh we went through six meetings it was a lot we finally got to a point in December where we said we're either going to deny this thing or we're going to approve it with a lot of
conditions we came up with nine eight of them made it into the record there was a little bit of them U you know it it just didn't get on there uh that number nine is the approval of the documents does not constitute a commitment to funding
roadway elevation projects that is on page 263 of your packet so we covers up you're not under the obligation to go out and start raise raising roads the other eight I'm not going to read them for you again the uh bottom line of this
all is it's voluntary and uh it includes residences and businesses if you don't want to do it don't do it build your house at elevation you know uh five the uh FEMA requiring that your living area be above the 100 year plus two um I
personally had had 3 ft of water in my garage if I could have raised my house another 2 ft when I rebuilt it back in 1996 I would have and uh I would have had you know 6 Ines of water my life would have been a heck of a lot better we have an interesting situation here in
uh Treasure Island going on there I'm first going to hit on that cost estimate I was the one that uh challenged the $105 per cubic yard that's almost a cost of uh concrete Street hauled in um I had
a contractor said he would deliver fill to my uh lot in Treasure Island for $16.67 per yard that's delivered okay you add another $3 per yard to fill it compact it okay you're up to uh $20 a
yard for that particular lot that means the cost of Phill would be $244,000 not $ 126,00 000 as was uh in that estimate that cuts down the cost a heck of a lot we have a situation over
on uh Paradise Island at 44 Dolphin Drive and 43 Dolphin Drive that uh is interesting to me the 43 Dolphin Drive is well under construction the uh finished floor of the garage is going to be elevation 5 and it's it's going
forward it's a speck house he's going to sell it for $5.9 million he hoped if helain hit us again that would mean 3 ft of water in his garage of a brand new house 44 Dolphin Drive I became involved
with and I said you really need to raise your top of your Seawall you need to raise your uh garage finished floor let's aim for 7.5 it's going to cost you a few bucks for fill and because of the house on the north side who would not wait for this
ordinance uh you're going to have to build a stem wall on the north side your house St wall is you know a little more more exposed wall on the North side it's going to cost him uh 15 to $20,000 uh wish the guy had waited I
think in the long run he will pay for that decision because I don't think his house will sell for as much being that low um there's a lot of people that have called me that uh have said hey we're
waiting for this thing to go we really want start building our houses our houses have been destroyed uh we tore them down we're just ready to go don't delay this anymore we need it now not not another delay this thing has been
kicked around oh it's the big kick uh around started in August um you know I have met with all the new Commissioners uh I have talked it over I'm available anytime my phone is public knowledge to
every one of you I'm happy to answer questions if there's anything you need to know let me know there's bigger fish to fry here in uh Treasure Island then this little bit of field dirt our Central business district is a disaster I've been sitting on that uh Planning
and Zoning Board since 2013 waiting for something to happen to the uh Gator property nothing's happening I mean you know I know it's owned by a private entity and maybe someday it it'll happen the club it's now boat storage yard let's get this on and let's get on
bigger and better things in this city and uh turn it back into some of its Grandeur we got the best beach in the world but the rest of the town and the best residential areas in the world I mean I love all our residential areas and they should remain exactly as they
were it's just that now due to Helen we're going to have to have some new construction it uh Now's the Time I mean let's not around with this I know a lot of people say hey let's do a simple fi ordinance well there's eight ordinances
being modified it's not that simple it's not move removing the word not it uh it's something that needs to happen thank you and as you all know I'm available I've been chairman of the pnz board for a long time and uh I'm happy
to work with the new commission anytime thank you thank you Ross Sanchez good evening everybody Ross Sanchez 44 Dolphin Drive uh yeah Richard did just mention my uh project that was
in question um again I I sit on the um Planning and Zoning Board uh in LPA uh as Vice chair sat through the meetings listened to the presentation um have made decisions obviously W with the board and submitted our um preference with those conditions
and really really hope that you all pass this or get it through the first reading then on to the second you know I will tell you it's interesting sitting in the meeting and hearing about um getting permits now and and and trying to get people back in their houses um that that's what I'm trying to do I I am in
the process of trying to get a seaw wall done that is lifted to the regulations I am electing myself to do that when it comes to building a house I want to do that because my last house was not and I got flooded um you know again focusing
on getting back people back into their houses it's not just people that are up here in the board I have a four-year-old son you know we are not in Treasure Island right now he was born in Treasure Island I've been here for 30 plus years my parents still live on the island so we are rebuilding a house in Treasure Island but we would like for this to
pass so then we can move forward in in regards to submitting permits uh one of the questions that I know is the additional fees that come with um again I think that well interest to hear the city manager uh report in regards to you know new new construction processes because obviously those fees would be
back on the city if they're part of the permit I think that that's you know needs to be clarified I get that it's important um I want to highlight that even if you did not have a Phill um if if you were adding Phill to your build your your your project would still go
through those third party consultants for review one of the conditions that we highlighted in there was a sign and seal drainage plan from an an engineer it's basically a rubber stamp for that third party to look at and just like a peerto peer to sign off so that is one of the main reasons when you look at those
conditions we put that in there so then it could go through that pass through even so there's not a laundry list of hourly fees from from third party Consultants so appreciate you all listening I know there's going to be more cards but um when it comes to people getting their permits and things of that nature this is part of that
process and making it right so thank you all for your time thank you Ross Chris Downey lot of pnz out here tonight have pnz meeting right uh Chris Downing uh District Two I'm also on the
U I live in is palms and a member of the pnz um and LPA uh welcome new Commissioners congratulations on the new positions uh I supported the eight conditions that we put forward for all
to add to to the what you're voting on tonight uh for the overall plan and I still support those conditions um but in further review of the entire terrain management plan it is a
very long document over a 100 pages and I think one of the things we have to do going forward is you know Katherine mentioned earlier that this is effectively a design manual for the engineers it is not going to be codified
at this point we've put made it voluntary but if one chooses to elevate then you do have to meet the criteria within that manual As you move forward at in terms of getting the
permit so although it's not mandatory if you choose to elevate and you don't have have to elevate to the full Max that the program itself goal has for that particular property you do have to meet the conditions which are numerous so
there is a lot of prescriptive information or requ I should say prescriptive requirements within this program even though it is voluntary so I know we're all pressed for time because people
have building that they have to do you know that we can't we can't slow this thing down I I totally understand the the pressure that people want to start getting permits to actually build new homes or Elevate those homes so we I think it is the work that's been done to
date is good but it now has created this very complex manual that is more than just voluntary there is really effectively prescriptive methods within it and because of that um if you do pass
it this evening as in the first read I would encourage you to as a part of this to employ the import the the LPA to actually do some further work to simplify it because as long as it is even though we're going to
have you the normal process of you of someone that's going for a permit have it reviewed by the outside civil engineering firm and as you're making that storm permit you you are I if you if you take it if because it is so complex I think it's going to be more
than 125 for one hour to review it it's just it's going to be much more difficult than that that's the the feeling I have at this point so I do think that we're we're going to have to simplify the overall process or it's going become a continued burden on the city staff and on the property owners
and it is going to cost more than the not more to elevate but more to do just the review process around it and it doesn't have to be as complex as it is as it is as it is today I think let the engineering community and The Architects do their job within the storm man
agement plan that is set set forth we can change the ordinances and then let the engineers and Architects do their job we don't have to be prescriptive prescriptive around every aspect of this let them be Innovative about how they would approach all of it so I again I
know there's a lot of pressure on this um maybe there's a way forward for us to simplify it in the long run it is at least being put forward in a on a voluntary basis and I still support the eight measures that we put forth as the LPA thank you mayor doctor can I ask him a question if
he's willing to answer just because he's on pnz am I allowed to do that I just had a I just had a question if it could be like a living document you know one that so people now could start doing it but obviously review it and not I mean obviously I'm sure it could be
simplified but make it more of like a living document um something to that effect similar to what he was saying um just a a thought okay just putting that out there right thank you Mark hoey good evening again Mark hoey 225
104th Avenue 110 uh good old District 3 uh listening through the uh presentation I Come Away with a couple of things and then a couple other comments first off I'll applaud Katherine of all the slide presentations we've seen I've seen uh
trying to explain exp the ordinance changes that were going to take place this was the first one that was more clearer than I can say all the others were all the others were sales pitches this one actually showed me what the
changes were going to be and that's what I think we all need to see and it was certainly uh Chuck I applaud you for accepting the redline changes that are made so that we have a we don't have to look at the whole document when there's proposed changes being made
unfortunately the sheer volume of this Workshop or this meeting packet was beyond my capabilities of looking at every page so I'm taking some with faith that everything that has been agreed to
and committed to has been changed to hold the uh hold the plan in account for those eight the eight conditions that said I feel there is pressure on the commission uh out of necessity to get
the building going again particularly we there's so few permits there's still 92 homes to be demolished they're going to be waiting in line as well but I can't help but agree with Chris on the issue of making the manual simpler or make it
go away you have the ordinances uh it was acknowledged earlier this evening that the TMM manual not all the ordinances but the manual is a retooled retrofitted Elevate TI manual which was strictly a sales tool you know it was
selling A New Concept do we really need it or can it be uh substantially uh compressed to only the stuff that's needed based on the current uh ordinance changes that are being
looked at and voted on at this point so good luck thank you Andrew vasy good evening Andrew vasy District 2 um congratulations to all the Commissioners I'm particularly inspired
by their U their knowledge of the comprehensive plan storm waterer management plan uh the eight ordinances that are in effect and the impacts on business the new construction that's coming up could use a simple fi art
ordinance but oops we don't have one it was asked for on August 20th and it was asked for several more times but we don't have one the presentation we just saw four of those homes over
$150,000 in improvements so you say it's voluntary there are people that want to elevate they're about to be prepared for sticker shock because you can't Elevate that size lot and go back and look at your own information you cannot Elevate those
lots without the retaining walls without the work on your seaw wall without all the other stuff and meet these ordinances and why is that why is it so expensive well look where this came from came from Elevate TI and look when it's
when it went down in flames on August 20th who was here Tyler Payne was the mayor not here Stacy was Public Works not here Catherine has resigned the attorney has resigned so
the whole Legacy of this thing was an environmental agenda based on elevati because we were going to raise this Island 2 feet at the expense of the residents because first of all we were going to be
mandated to raise 2 feet and pay for it for several hundred, and I will go round and round with Mr Harris on construction costs because I've been in it about as long as he has 39 years and the residents are going to have sticker shock and then on the businesses same
thing but expect closer to seven figures there's a difference between the business impact that says there's no cost impact to a business and that the cost is indeterminable that's laziness on the part of the people completing the
business impact anybody could look at the footprint of this city and they could say there's so many businesses we're going to assume 40% Elevate we're going to assume 60% Elevate and then run a cost to see what it's going to cost a hotel owner when everybody else is
elevating around you and everything's coming your way and then you're going to pay for it and and to put out out of the eight ordinances with the business impacts five of them say that the costs are indeterminable they don't say there's no cost there's a big difference
between no cost and indeterminable and then the number of businesses that are affected they made no effort to to come up with anything this is the same group who denied the simple fiart ordinance that two of you directed them to do at
that August 20th meeting and you were provided the information on how to do that if it was not possible which we hear with no data not a single piece of paper then they would have gone rushed out and had it done so they could rush
back in and say look right here kimley horn says not possible to do simple filer we have to do 140 Pages we got to pay the same engineer to review the permits that come in as a quality control check on the other reviewers read the contract that you all voted on
on June 18th where you gave them $109,000 lump sum contract yet the staff said it's a paid for by the hour they can't even reconcile what they're doing they're in such a rush to put this through so there's hundreds and hundreds of pages of this out there and we're
reading through it as residents because this keeps getting put on us you killed this on August 20th you asked for simple field dirt ordinance no one has done anything on that there is no alternative ative put forward there's nothing to
compare this to and now what started by a mayor who resigned at a bunch of other people that have resigned you're about to vote that in and then want to come back in two weeks and do it again after the what the history of this my house
got 39 Ines of water I'm tearing my house down I will not spend a dollar on this fill because it is it is outrageous what you've done the work behind it is shoddy and the fact that we don't have an alternative is outrageous thank you
very much West Evans West Evans Isa Palms um the mayor uh commissioner at the time Mayor John doctor and the residents uh several of which are actually commissioners now 7 months ago asked for a fi dirt ordinance
uh when this room was full of people yelling about and angry about Elevate TI yet here we are again uh discussing Elevate TI um we still haven't received the FI dirt ordinance the alternative to this
we haven't seen an alternative um in fact I would say that the fil dirt ordinance was held hostage uh it was never brought forward and why was it never brought forward forward because if that came forward then we wouldn't need this terrain manual uh uh terrain
modification manual we wouldn't need Elevate TI and if we don't have Elevate TI there's not a consulting firm getting paid to bring forward the uh Elevate ti so that's why they held it hostage that's why you haven't seen a fi dirt
ordinance uh Katherine yunan just sat here gave a slideshow and in it several times she said uh and then we were asked to bring back a modification for this we were asked to bring back a modification on that date and on this date and went through about six different times
they've come through with uh things they were asked to do for the terrain modification manual uh but they never came back with that fi dirt ordinance that was asked for on August 20th uh we
did we had uh the LPA asked to strip out some of the things from the modification manual that at the time that was our compromise and the reason why we wanted that is because we had a commission that didn't
have the interest of the residents in mind when they were doing this so this was our only hope was to let's try to strip out as as much of the Mandate as much of the uh the all the craziness from it that we
can and we'll try to deal with with it the best we can what they hand us but now we have a new commission we have a mayor that we've elected and you guys were elected for a reason so it's time to do the right
thing you're up here because the people want you we've chosen you guys to be here we have two Commissioners that no one ran against because we trusted that you guys would do the right thing and the right thing is to look at the staff and tell them bring us a filer
ordinance you can give emergency variances uh for those who need fil dirt in the meantime they have to have an engineering packet to go along with it like anything else but right now what you're doing if you vote Yes on this is you're signing us up for a subscription
plan that no one wanted in the first place and we'll be paying these Consultants to review all of our plans until the end of time and not only that uh if you pass this you're rewarding the people who held our fil dirt hostage
they had the option and they didn't do what you wanted and now if you vote Yes tonight you're you're shaking their hand applauding them for doing you dirty and when they do you dirty they're doing us
dirty and we don't like it and that's what we voted for you to get up here and stop thank you Brandy long hi Brandy long G Boulevard a handful of people would want you to consider Elevate TI a bold
concept most Treasure Island residents call it a fantasy that fantasy sets a goal that the entire Island will be raised several feet even though Gulf Boulevard would not be raised along with several properties because of lot size shape or
location this fantasy was planned for completion in 2100 terrain modification is Elevate TI Why is there a possibility that we may have to follow the rules set forth by those who actually thought this
fantasy could be a reality that is what terrain modification manual is it sets regulation in order to be in compliance of the goals of elevate TI 7 months ago on August 20th Commissioners doctor
minning and Dicky voted to kill Elevate TI also known as terrain modification manual and directed by our city manager to bring a simple and directed our city city manager to bring a simple Fielder ordinance back to the commission we all
know the city manager failed to deliver for the Treasure Island residents Advanced engineering our city manager and staff want you to approve hundreds of pages of new documentation regulations and government overreach so
we can have fil dirt our resigned City staff have attempted to hold fil dirt hostage and work against the Treasure Island residents in order to push their ill-conceived and failed Elevate TI our building department has failed
our community by not issuing simple d wall permits in any kind of timely fashion how can they be expected to handle hundreds of pages of the new requirements for something as simple as adding fi dirt the former mayor
co-published Elevate TI and the train modification manual have all resigned It is Well documented that they were motivated to force Treasure Island residents out of their built grade homes I want to know from our
commissioners and mayor is have you read the entire 500 plus pages of the terrain modification manual yes are you comfortable bringing back the Trin modification manual against the will of your constituents and majority of
Treasure Island residents do you believe that the city manager development director blatantly ignoring the will of the people and the direction of the commission about a simple fil
dirt ordinance option two and numerous other issues constitutes the right path for our community the fil dirt controversy underscores the need for Treasure Island residents to take control of Treasure
Island a simple filer ordinance will grant Property Owners the freedom to decide our residents should be able to decide how and when to mitigate their property as long as plans are approved
by their verified engineer not Advanced engineering until all of eternity thank you Sarah Pennington hi there Sarah Pennington is of Palms um Chris Downing said a lot of things very
eloquently that I agree with um really about the complicated nature of this terrain modification manual um back on August 20th as many of us have said the residents did shut down Elevate TI very overwhelmingly um the residents did ask
for a fi dirt ordinance back in August of last year it never happened and now since the storms have come I understand we have a lot of people that are going to be elevating or building their homes and we're in a situation where we feel like we've been backed into a corner and
the only way for these residents to get fill dirt is by uh passing this Elevate TI plan with some of the teeth removed the bottom line for me is that there's just too much negative baggage that comes with Elevate TI there's too
much unknown it's too complicated and we don't fully understand all of the ram ramifications of adopting this plan even with the changes made so it's hard for us many of us residents to confidently get behind this plan as complicated as
it is along with the baggage that it has but I do understand that people need filled art and they want it right away we did I can't remember what meeting it was but we did do an emergency ordinance for businesses where they could have tents and food trucks outside to help
them until they can rebuild so what I would propose would be while we work on a fil dirt ordinance that's much more simplified could we have an emergency ordinance that allows residents to get
filled dirt right now with a proper drainage program everything has to be done properly you can't be running off into your neighbor's yard but can we not just find something to slow down this um Elevate TI plan and give us more time to
make a better decision for a better Fielder that will potentially impact residents indefinitely and um I think that that would be a good solution passing some sort of um emergency ordinance to allow for it and again it has to be properly done um the residents
spoke very loud and clear on March 11th and the residents wanted change and they really are expecting this new leadership to avoid costly uh programs that the residents don't necessarily want thank you thank
you any additional public comment hearing none the public hearing is now closed could we have a a motion mayor we going to have commissioner comments on this uh we do that uh after yeah I'm so sorry
got frog in my throat there um I hate to say this but before you take a motion there does need to be another reading of the title of all of the ordinances so you all want to sit back and get comfy I've got some reading to do thank you sure
certainly um ordinance 2411 an ordinance of the city of Treasure Island Florida establishing the city's terrain modification manual and adopting appendix b as the city of Treasure Islands terrain modification manual and part of the city's Land Development regulations superseding ordinances or parts thereof in Conflict herewith
providing for severability providing for conflict providing for codification and providing for an effective date ordinance 24-12 and ordinance of the city of Treasure Island Florida amending chapter 8 the building regulations and fire code of the city of Treasure Island's code of ordinances by
revising section 81 building codes adopted to remove references to specific years to reference the flood resistant amendments to the building code that were moved to chapter 66 of the code and to revise the owner Builder Provisions
in accordance with Florida statutes section 88-72 Florida fire prevention code adopted to clarify adoption of the entire code and remove references to specific years section 88-88 append appendices b e and G of NFPA 1 fire
prevention code adopted is deleted provide for financial impact statement providing for transmission to the Florida building commission providing for conflict providing for codification and providing for an effective date ordinance 24-13 an ordinance of the city of
Treasure Island Florida amending chapter 54 utilities of the city of Treasure Island's code of ordinances by deleting Article 2 storm water management from chapter 54 moving Article 2 from 75 chapter 75 to chapter 54 providing for severability providing for
conflict providing for codification and providing for an effective date ordinance 202 24-14 an ordinance of the city of Treasure Island Florida amending chapter 66 flood plane management of the city of Treasure Island code of ordinances by revising section 66- 102.3 basis for establishing
flood Hazard areas to update the address of City Hall revising section 66-14 point1 permit required section 66-33 point1 minimum requirement section 66-31 point1 minimum requirement
and section sorry and 66374 other development in coastal High Hazard areas Zone V and coastal zones to reference the city's terrain modification manual revising section 66-14 point3 application for permit for or
approval to update the requirements for applications for flood plane development permits revising section 66- 105.1 information for the development in flood Hazard areas to update requirements for the site plans and construction documents for developments
subject to the chapter revising Article 2 definitions to update the applicable definitions for terms used in the chapter creating section 66-31 point5 Florida building code administrative amendment to require the the sub mittle of certification forms for certain elevations of buildings in
flood Hazard areas creating section 6630 I'm sorry d301 6 Florida building code technical amendments to provide certain limitations on buildings in flood Hazard areas revising section
66-33 point5 limitations on placement of fill to sub substantial substantively revise the city regulation on Phil revising section 66-34 point1 General to revise the
definitions of manufactured homes in this section revising section 66- 36.1 underground tanks to require protective measures when submerging underground tanks revising section 66-3 6.2 above ground tanks not elevated
to require protective measures when emerging above ground tanks revising section 663070764 slabs used in parking pads enclosures floors Landing decks walkways patios and similar non-structural uses in the coastal High Hazard area zone Z and
coastal zone a to require that such slabs have no turn down or thickened edges revising section 66- 3073 decks and patios and Coastal High Hazard areas Zone B and Coastal a zones
to revise the regulations of certain decks and patios deleting section 66 37.5 non-structural fill and Coastal High Hazard areas Zone V and Coastal a zones in its entirety providing for severability providing for conflict providing for codification and providing
for an effective date ordinance 2024-the of ordinances by amending section 682 definitions to revise the definitions of building building height development fence grade perious area structure and create definitions for
open fence base floor lowest floor natural grade guard portable retaining wall terrain modification height adjustment Factor terrain modification setback adjustment Factor terrain modification manual and wall amending sections
68-34 predevelopment Review Committee 68- 431 schedule of lot and bulk regulations and 68- 541 setback classifications to recognize the terrain modification adjustment Factor amending sections 68-1
152 adopted levels of service and 68-1 159 appeals to update the reference to the Treasure Island watershed management plan amending section 68-1 195 application of zoning District regulations to require permits deleting section
68- 224 design standards section 68 225 exemptions and 68-4 10.69 storm water because those are addressed in are now addressed in chapter 6
76 amending section 68 4109 setback 68410 D um- 38 setbacks 68 410 68 signage 68- 487 swimming pools
and 68- 561 alternate setback procedures to Define grades As Natural or finished amending and renaming section 68- 458 Garden walls retaining walls fences and hedges to address retaining walls guards and revisions to fences providing for
severability providing for conflict providing for codification and providing for an effective date ordinance 20 24-16 an ordinance of the city of Treasure Island Florida amending chapter 69 Marine structures and Commercial Fishing of the city of
Treasure Islands code of ordinances by revising section 6931 General requirements to address Coastal armoring requirements revising section 6932 definitions to include definitions of terms introduced to chapter 69 by this ordinance and Revis revising the
definitions of repair for seaw walls revising section 69-51 application to Revis requirements for application to seaw wall and living Shoreline and structural calculation requirements revising section 69-53 exploration to remove language
related to permits for repairs to seaw walls revising section 69-72 seaw walls to include language relating to seaw wall construction requirements revising section 69-74 construction materials to significantly revise their requirements for various types of seaw walls and
living shorelines revising section 69 to 75 maintenance and and repair of seaw walls adding requirements related to Major seaw wall repairs creating section 69-77 supplemental criteria to create additional requirements related to seaw wall construction providing for
severability providing for conflict providing for C codification and providing for an effective date ordinance 20-24 I'm sorry 20247 an ordinance of the city of treasur Island Florida amending chapter 75 utilities to retitle as pable
water sanitary sewer and reclaimed water of the city of Treasure Islands code of ordinances by deleting Article 2 Division 4 sections 75-1 121 through 75-1 123 from chapter 75 and moving chapter and moving to chapter 54
deleting article 3 drainage sections 75-1 151 through 75 - 209 from chapter 75 providing for severability providing for conflict providing for codification and providing for an effective date and last but not least ordinance 20
24-18 an ordinance of the city of Treasure Island Florida creating chapter 76 storm water of the city of Treasure Island's code of ordinances by creating article one in general to provide definitions to be used Throughout the chapter creating Article 2 storm water management moving Article 2
SEC sections 75201 through 75209 to article 3 storm water and surface water pollution section 7671 through 76 through 79 providing for
severability providing for conflict providing for codification and providing for an effective date we're done y okay so you're you're finished correct Jen I am done thank you right um we now uh seek a
motion I motion uh or I'm sorry I move um to approve the first reading of the terrain modification program as outlined and as uh Jennifer Cohen had just uh spoken of
I moov to table second okay I'm sorry we have a motion on the floor and then did we do we have a second to that motion because then there was a competing motion that was then off I second that motion which motion uh the motion to approve the train modification
program as set forward in ordinances first well I had a motion pending at the time the mayor would normally call for a second on that you're moving to table okay mayor um at this point you have a motion in a second you can you ALS you can take a
roll call vote but you also have a motion to table I don't know if there's a second on that motion to table do we have a a second on the motion to table no it die that motion would die for a lack of a second the motion you you have remaining on the table is the
motion to approve in the second correct and now it's time for the commission to have discussion anybody I'd like to go last of possible go ahead I'll go first then I guess I the uh we've heard a lot of mention
about this is the Elevate TI program and I would argue that this is not the Elevate TI program uh that was rejected by a 3-2 margin uh last year it has nine conditions approved by the L PA and even before that the most distasteful feature
of the original Elevate TI was the look back period and that was taken out even uh early even before it was reviewed with the LPA uh I have read the entire manual uh it took me quite a while to do so and I
feel comfortable in uh in moving forward with this um the first thing I want to say is I am 1,000% for field dirt um but not not this way um I I'm a salesperson I know a
sales pitch when I see it and this this is really this is really kind of near and dear to me because I I I personally think lev8 TI and this whole train modification manual is probably the biggest black mark one of the biggest black marks on
this city has ever had um it was not designed to benefit their residents Common Sense will tell you you're you can't raise 26 miles of roads and every single House 2 feet levati and the and the train
modification manual to me um were designed to benefit our farmer mayor and his political aspirations um his staff and the engineering firm I mean the 10-year look back that they tried to Ram down our throats thank God we thank God we came
out and stopped it um you know proves that and I hope every resident understands that had that 10year look back gone through every repair you'd made for the last 10 years would have counted toward your 50% rule in this hurricane came through and every single one of us sitting here would be out of
our homes and I don't think it's anybody including a mayor's um responsibility to try to remove people from their homes and it literally makes me ill and so this is still a remnant of all that and you know
this monstrosity of TMM was designed to go along with Elevate TI and there's no one I don't believe that can tell me that if Elevate TI never existed would we really be trying to vote in a 145
page um um ordinance for filt you know that just took 20 minutes for someone to read I mean I I I highly highly doubt it and back to the sales pitch I mean you know
there's the simple fi dirt thing you know at least give us the option to compare it to the train modification we've never been given that opportunity we've all we've heard is I couldn't get a hold of the firm for forever couldn't
get a well then they said it's just going to take too long I've never seen in writing anything as to why it couldn't be done how long it would take if it could be sped up um and I've never seen anything wred anything in writing about anything there's mysteriously
nothing to compare this to and uh I guarantee you if a s simple filer ordinal was not possible uh that would have been thrown in in in in our face so um I do I I think Chris Downing
said it the best this thing is too complex um I understand it's voluntary I'll never do it because I don't know what's going to happen once I get into it and the firm starts looking at it and starts telling me that I got to do this I got to do that and that how much is it really going to cost me I have no way to
budget for it there's no why there's no reason why you you can't have a plan that's done by an engineer and turned in and have a simple fi dirt ordinance that that can take care of this I do I do want to congratulate the LPA they did their best to put lipstick
on a pig and and that's what we're trying to do here we're trying to we're trying to to put a round peg into a square hole and and I just and the only reason we're doing this is because we got to do it because we got to have fill
now okay so I'd love for us to talk about if there has to be some alternative to get some fill in the short term before we sign 44 pages in that took 20 minutes to read and it it's just it's beyond me and and and the
other thing I will say is um you know all we ever talk about is is is is reasons we can't do things oh we can't do this we can't do that let's find a way that we can do this and make simpler because all I heard when I went door too over the last couple months is we want Common Sense we want Simplicity and this
is certainly not that I'd also like because we've heard multiple things up here we've heard 400,000 we've heard 1.4 million city manager I would like an accounting of every dollar that's been spent with Advanced
engineering because I want to see how much money that we've spent on this over the years and it it's it it just it's mindboggling I I also would like and I don't I'm not sure first meeting how we do this but I'd like to suspend any more
payments to Advan engineering and we have we have a a way to look at what's been spent understand it because I'm worried that this this funnel of money from this sales pitch is never going to stop I too agree with a lot of what was
said um I think that uh the LPA has done a great job um and I think that what they did is they proved to us that we can take something that was uh going to be W with a mandate and was going to be
very expensive and through nine uh nine different issues to uh to address uh we we basically have something that is uh voluntary um it allows for fi dirt um
and that's what a lot of us were saying is that where what's start quickest way to get the field dirt and I'll tell you what that uh What uh Mr Downing said um yes it it needs to be simpler and maybe we can even take this exact document and
make it simpler because I think that there's got to be ways for that to happen um and the other thing that I would say is that yes we're taking a vote tonight we're we're taking a vote uh in in the near future um but that
does not say that we have to live with this for the next you know five years the next year the next whatever it is uh we can work immediately if we can get the dirt out there for the folks and it's voluntary uh we can begin to work
we can go and actually get a proposal send the proposal out um as a as a mandate to get out to uh to uh uh these engineering firms and say that this is what we want we want simple we want we
want dirt we we need to make sure though that it it's uh going to work for our our community um but we don't have to accept that this is going to be the rest of our lives because I'm not going to accept that this is going to be the rest
of our lives but I sure am not going to wait another nine or 12 months uh to to go out and uh and get a a you know run it through the state and everything else uh it doesn't need to be that way people can do it and we can do what we want and
I I've heard some people in this room say hey if if you get the right commission together they'll do right even if it takes you know a year to do it they they'll get it right and and that's what I think this is this is getting something short term uh yeah I
think it's it's probably short term because I think that we need to find as as Mr Downing said something that is simple and uh and I think that that's what we've got to take a look for we we can't wait now for 9 10 12 months thank
you thank you so I definitely will agree um with a lot of what both of you said and ardan um and sorry commissioner Dicky um Elevate TI was definitely a black eye I was one of them here uh speaking against it um I was speaking
against the mandates I absolutely could not agree more more it was it was not good it was not the time there was nothing about it um because everything in it was a mandate this is not Elevate TI No matter how many times you say it's
Elevate TI it's not Elevate TI this is to help these 92 residential people who are rebuilding their homes the 10 commercial ones who are currently in De waiting for demolation permits or people who are just waiting to do anything
until this passes this is for those people because they don't want to wait another you know it's government we all know it's going to take six months to a year to get what Everyone likes to call a simple um filer there's nothing simple about any of it there's absolutely
nothing simple about any of it it's a great name but there's nothing simple and these people who are waiting to tear down their houses or have already torn down their houses they don't want to wait another six months to a year or even shoot they don't even wait want to
wait till the May 1st that it's going to take to get this passed let loan bring up a whole another ordinance we hear time and time again from the same people we need to listen to our constituents I am listening to my constituents I'm listening to them and they're telling me
they want dirt and they want it now they want to build their homes they want to get back to Treasure Island this is definitely not the perfect document but it's a start and we can get people in their homes and get them building faster um than waiting and kicking it down the
road again and again and again this is 100% voluntary I have read every page of it I my husband would attest to it I spent two days sitting at my dining room table reading every ounce highlighting going back reading again reaching out to
those who know reaching out to Richard um the chair of the pnz I've I've reached out I've talked I've asked for clarification because I don't know it all but I do know that we need this and we need it now it's voluntary it is not
perfect I definitely know and I agree with mayor doctor there's definitely a better way to do this an easier way to do this I look at this as I stated before is a living document this is something that we can start with and then Improvement but in the meantime
these 92 residential people who are waiting to tear down their home that want to rebuild and they want to build it up because they don't want their garages to flood and for especially Sunset Beach they don't want that so
that's why I do support it um definitely would not call it elevate TI um and I just that's the way I feel I want to represent the constituents I've talked to who aren't just for or against it they're living it there's a lot of
people that we against it we're against it we're against it and they're living in their houses and the people that I'm talking to aren't living in their houses and they want to build their new homes and they want this fil dirt and that's why I'm supporting
it well I'll say uh for sure that I'm not really happy how we got here um I know the LPA did a lot of work with all the meetings um last time we brought in Phil was when District 1 2 and three were filled in by the Army Corps of Engineers so it's uh time to obviously
uh listen to to my constituents in District 3 um I'm an I am a hotel owner but I'm not an engineer and that's why there are documents such as this to give you a path uh forward I've spoken to a lot of my residents in District 3 who
are building lifting and weighing their options still I know many houses are already under construction with or without uh the fill that they're you know hopefully could bring in um all but one resident has asked me to vote in favor of this uh ordinance as
many have plans on holding to see if this ordinance passes um I know that uh a lot of residents have reached out to me saying that you know if they went to the LPA um and asked for a variance to bring in
Phil well um I think that's kind of risky if we don't have a Phil ordinance in place um I think um it'd be a rare uh granting of a variance by the LPA to bring in Phil if uh we have a strict no
fill policy in place um I agree with this ordinance and LPA 7 recommendations so yeah that's pretty much it any other discussion mayor if I may uh commissioner Clark asked me for to take
a look into AED was that specifically for all the work that they've done with the city or was that for the work related to ele um elevating like to see all the work I'll parse out what was for Lev TI I want to make sure I get everything enbl to look at we'll
do okay any other disc I have one last question is you know again back to to Mayor doctor you you want to make this simpler I'd like to make it simpler from the start but and I and I I don't want to keep people out of their homes and but of these
92 demolition permits how how quickly I mean all 90 these 992 of these people aren't going to start building tomorrow right I mean is it possible that maybe only 10 of these are going to even need fil dirt to the next three
months but we need to give them the option you know I mean uh yeah I'd like to see if we could come up with something in the short term to do this right from the beginning but it sounds like that that's not going to happen well on Dolphin Drive eight homes have been demoed uh five are being lifted
majority are uh elevating or uh rebuilding um both my neighbors to the left and right of me are elevating their homes uh I built my home in 2018 I would have loved to bring in 24 in of fill that would have given me my two cars
that I lost and about a foot of water in my garage which i' would been happy with that so and I'll tag off of that two of the homes at the end of our street are also elevating both of them of which in the last week have stopped to talk to me when they've seen out in my yard and
both of them are saying please tell me that they're by the time we I think I believe one is starting in August September um and the other one doesn't have an exact date yet from their contractor where they're going to be elevating and both of them are like please tell me we're going to be able to at least build up our bottom floor when
we're elevating and I'm like I just said I hope I hope I could say yes and that was within the last week and it's the two houses at the very end of Fifth Street you could drive by there see the signs in their yard one more thing to say I know a lot of my
constituents who do not want to come to the commission meeting and speak in favor of this because they're worried about blowback from Citizens Voice Treasure Island ironically I had to say that same any other
discussion hearing none please call R vice mayor basz I commissioner Sazon I commissioner Clark nay commissioner dicki I mayor doctor I okay moving on now to our last
item which is H6 um we'd like to go out for an RFP to find a qualified City attorney while retaining Jennifer for the remainder of her 90 days so what is uh what's the process of us doing an RFP for
uh do we select some firms and go out to see what it's going to cost or no so generally what what occurs is that you put out um a request for proposal it's distributed out and attorney um law firms look for these to come out and when they come out anyone who's
interested um their firm will put in for it one those once the Clos data has happened you will have everybody that's applied um you'll review all of those um what I can say is when they hired me what they did is I met individually with
each commissioner um so they they could ask questions you know you get to know the person a little bit um they can explain whether or not they understand the issues before the city and then you go into a public session and um you vote
on on who will be your next City attorney and the contract associated with that normally what they'll do is um in your request for proposal you'll structure what the qualifications are uh so for instance um one common
qualification and I would encourage you to um include that is that the City attorney be board certified in city county and local government that's a standard by the Florida bar that demonstrates that they're an expert in Municipal law so I would suggest that
for the city other than that you can identify information that you would like to know for instance um do you want this how do you want it structured you want it on a retainer and um ask them to provide you a retainer you can ask them for an alternate fee structure you maybe you want it hourly what's their hourly
rate um it will cover all sorts of legal services that can be provided I've sent the city manager uh a note of several cities that I know have gone out to RFP so you can get that proposal from those other cities and then work you know to
come up with a draft that's acceptable to the commission and then it will go out and like I said it's normally I think you give about 30 days for them to respond during that time period they can ask questions stuff staff will run it and then you'll select
okay so how who do we direct to city manager that would fall me mayor okay and understand what you're looking for um you know I'll I'll talk to the Commissioners in individually over the next few days on in our one-on-one basis in case there's anything in particular
that you're looking for or that you would like added into the scope of work or into any of the details then bring that back to you as a full document and then we'll put the RFP out okay do we need anything more than that that's consensus Direction I'm just
for the yeah I'm saying that's consens from the commission to go ahead and proceed in that manner okay thank you all right so we are now adjourned e e e
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okay we're going to call this meeting to order this is a workshop a little bit more flexible uh in the communication in this one so uh we hope that everybody will uh will enjoy it and uh and learn something here
um city manager and City attorneys would you please give your reports I have no report this evening great I'll take her time mayor and Commissioners um and community over an economic development I was as was mentioned earlier pelis
County was awarded an allocation of $813 million from HUD in the form of a Community Development block grant these Disaster Recovery funds are designated to support long-term recovery efforts under the broad umbrella of people first programs economic revitalization and
infrastructure an action plan is being developed by the county and public input is being solicited through public public hearings the South County pelis South County for pelis County public hearing will be held on Monday April 7th from 6:00 to 8 in the lman exchange Ray ner
room in St Petersburg Public Works was able to successfully remove a hydraulic excuse me hydraulic cylinder from the bascle bridge on the night of March 11th once the cylinder is repaired will be put back in place and we'll keep the community updated when that will occur
the bridge remains fully operated at this time over in the fire department rescue 24 is set to participate in the pelis Park High School first responder Disaster Day scenario on April 16th and on May 10th fire Ops 101 will be per
will be put on from our fire department if there's any Commissioners who would like to experience a Hands-On day in the life of a firefighter please contact Chief bars over in the police department the Treasure Island police officers and Communications staff created 674 records
s in their computered aided dispatch between Friday March 7th and March 14th these incidents included calls for service as well as self-generated Patrol activity the selected traffic enforcement program resulted in 23
traffic citations and 55 written warnings during this period additionally we handed out over 154 parking citations as well as four dogs on beach violations over in park and Rick they would like everyone to know that the community
center repairs are ongoing to return the structure back to its pre-storm status and to make it functional again the park and rec director is working on a completion of a Florida community's trust grant for the aisle of Palms Park and is also obtaining additional School
Bus replacement and final tennis fence quotes the assistant park and rec director is working with Smith fence for installation of a construction F fence around the beach Pavilion as well as working to simultaneously complete the Beach Pavilion playground and shade
structure installation they're also happy to announce that Treasure Bay has resumed normal operating hours Monday to Friday 8:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. and Saturday and Sunday 8: a.m. to 8:00 p.m. clay courts 5 and six and pickle ball courts 1 through3 are available for
reservations tennis lessons and Clinics continue to expand and Racket stringing and regripping is available finally summer camp registration started on March 3rd the camp is from June 2nd until August 8th enrollment numbers are at 87 for 10we
enroles and 61 for weekly enrollees over in the administration section wanted to give the Commission in the community update the county mailed out 11 easements that are needed for beach renourishment and Treasure Island these easements are for properties on Sunshine Beach and chief bars from our fire
department is working on contacting the property owners to explain offer assistance and answer questions the current suspense from the county is the 31st of March I say current because they initially had sent out the easements and had to rework the language and extended
the suspense date I had sent a letter to the Florida Department of Emergency Management executive director requesting an extension of the FEMA 1206 program this is the program that provides Manpower and resources at the state's cost to administer enforce building
codes flood plane management ordinances and permit processing we're are still recovering from last Fall's back-to-back storms and we're seeing an increase in the next step of recovery which is rebuilding permit requests I requested that the fdm
executive director extend this 1206 program until the 10th of July I have a meeting scheduled with the city of St Petersburg City administrator and their park and recck director next week to see if we can explore shared use or use their parking lot and entrance to
the beach on Gul Boulevard I'll keep the commission appraise of that um seeing that the fence is up there and as as was requested from the community that's something that we need to be able to either share use of or be able to take it I don't want to say advantage of but work toward using simultaneously so we
can have parking and the amenities open up for the community every year visit St P Clearwater allows locals and visitors to vote for the best places and experiences in our area and now it's time to show some love for Treasure Island please take a moment to vote for Treasure
Island Beach as the best beach you can vote at the visit St Pete Beach Clearwater website over in permitting I'd like to pass on that we are over the 2K Mark and what I want to say is in the permits issued we are at the number
2,111 permits that is up 165 permits from the previous week the total permit applications we have received is 2 , 652 those are some astounding numbers that we've got on the perming side of things or um for workshops that will be
con excuse me continuing April 1st we will be having a workshop excuse me two workshops with the commission one of them is to discuss Finance 101 tonight will'll be going through projects and on April 1st we're going to be going through Finance what
we're going to do is provide the Comm information on where we are financially as a city and also include the possibility if the the commission would like to take a look at a reimbursement resolution we will also be discussing fees for elevating and the new construction and the rebuilds that was
temporarily put off from our previous meetings on April 15th we are scheduled to currently have a solid waste discussion with the commission and that's the end of my report unless commission has any questions no questions here do we have
an opportunity to speak get a workshop openly yes absolutely can I say something sure oh awesome um so um I've been a resident on Treasure Island since 1990 and I've been to a lot of commission meetings uh and I've watched a lot of commission
meetings but what I'd like to see added during a workshop um is like a public comment section which I know it's C on the docket uh but uh I know that in a regular meeting uh when the public comes to the podium could express their
concerns or ask questions the rules of the meeting say that we couldn't we shouldn't engage and answer questions we remain silent even if we know the answer so that's been a frustration of mine for decades so I would like to propose that in the workshops moving forward if it's
okay with the commission I'm not sure how we approve this moving forward if we could entertain public comments where the public can ask questions we can have a dialogue in public within a reasonable amount of time such as two or three minutes if the commission city manager
City attorney or staff cannot provide the answer during the workshop timeline uh I know a lot of City staff are here during the meetings um that if if they know the answer they could rise to the podium and answer the question if they don't know they could research it and of
course get uh communication with the person who asked it and within reason out of time answered it granted if the question's relevant you know we obviously we can't go through all all of them but uh um is that something that could be
considered for the workshop moving forward like a a way to have dialogue with the public sure I mean uh this is a more flexible environment uh versus the agenda and uh what we do is we give them
five minutes during the agenda time you be recommended that uh in the workshop time 3 minutes which then gives uh the commission or the staff that's here available time to respond as well that's the biggest thing is it's just how much
time how many questions how many of these and thats we can do if someone has a question you know we limit it to a minute and then of course you know it doesn't have to be answered right away you know it could be answered you know during the timeline of public comments at Workshop this way there's an open dialogue during a commission meeting or
Workshop absolutely so yeah we can do it so just a little more on that just so I I understand it so just so you know at the U meeting one of the things that the commission did a while back is they moved commissioner reports to after public comment and that way if there
were um questions from the public during public comment for non-agenda items if the Commissioners um knew the answer or wanted to respond they could do that during their commission comment now you don't have the dialogue back and forth but if you if you know the answer you you could say you know and there was
this person who was speaking on this issue and here's this issue or here's the answer you can certainly add um to the public comment maybe we call it public comment SL discussion but just I I would want to understand the structure somewhat and the only reason for that is to ensure
fairness so you don't want somebody coming up and and let's say asking a question and you answering it and then they ask another one and it goes back and forth and how long does that exchange occur and then the next person comes up and you know how much how much time do they get because your response
to the Public's answer could vary based on their time so I just want to ensure that each member of the public gets the same time to ask the qu whatever questions they have and then the ability to respond so it may be easier to have them ask the question take notes and then
respond I I just I'm looking for commission input because I'll have to draft it into your rules and bring it back to you so I was kind of thinking like idea 2 minutes uh 2 minutes on the podium and the whole transaction or conversation being only 3 minutes you know tops you know I'm not we can't have
someone go up there in filibuster for 3 minutes and ask wild questions you know but uh yeah something of that sort because I ran into a situation many years ago where I would ask questions and the commission at the time maybe 2002 um commission at time just
stonewalled me and then it was just drama thereafter okay yeah so um i' already got some notes for revisions to the commission rules I'll add this in there and then bring back the commission rules to you all for discussion at a workshop and then um in case there's
anything else you want to add and then it can go on to the meeting I love the idea but I agree we definitely have to be very strict on the time and maybe even like one question or something like that because otherwise it definitely but I love the idea right yeah I mean I I agree I just don't I think you run the
risk of getting out of here at 1:00 a.m. exact the back and forth could go on forever absolutely so yeah we do need to make sure that we enforce it m the rules are pretty strict yep but we will have the interaction right thank
you all right thank you mayor and Commissioners um previously the last commission had taken a look at the items that what I called a project and a work product that was being performed from staff by departments and put together a
list of those projects um and ask the commission to rack and stack their top five priorities that the commission came back and did identify those priorities having to do with the master Pump Station and Public Works facility public
safety building seaw walls um excuse me doing walkovers and also Treasure Bay and so those are the five main focus projects that we do have going on within the city what what I want to do tonight is just give the the new commission an update on those five projects and also
an update and kind of a a peek under the under the curtain on some of the other items that are going on in the Departments and then this way it might Peak some curiosity or or ask some questions and the intent here is just to give you an idea of what some of the workload is beyond those top five projects and what and what those are so
with that if I could start with the fire department I think they are first and what I did was asked ask staff to try to keep this little bit to about five minutes per slide just to keep it uh at a high
level good evening uh Tom Brennen Deputy fire chief let me start off with R5 uh Chief Barkley might be joining me on the first one because it has to do with Public Safety uh facility uh he's been working oh the controls over there thank you welcome appreciate
it look at that there we go public safety design uh the two chiefs the fire chief and the police chief have been working side by side on this U so he has a lot more in-depth information on this so I'm going to defer to you on this we put an RFQ last Monday for
architectural design of the building that as far as we've gotten and we're waiting for the responses back and we will be going through all of them and uh of course reporting back that's kind of where we're at right now okay the second item on there is the uh County provided EMS vehicle or rescue
uh that is at no cost to the city but uh we do send us specifications through the County EMS procurement process it takes several years for that to be um produced and actually received possession of that vehicle so that's what as a carryover from the previous
contract to this year's contract probably it'll be carried over to next year's contract but we should be seeing that vehicle sometime in 26 the other thing the EMS budget was due uh earlier this month Chief bar submitted it with a maximum request allowable uh so that has
been submitted to the county which is how they fund our the EMS side of of our operations here which includes payment of uh personal salary and all the equip um for ALS and BLS uh protection we are looking at different
options with our temporary facility uh as you see it seems like there's something going on there all times there's a an attempt right now with some tarp to try to help with the leak um but uh Chief bars is looking to different options uh which includes you know maybe
a different type of structure a more uh stable structure a loss lot less expensive structure um even though that that structure more than likely will be covered by Insurance the cost of it and uh so we're looking at that for a
future it could be next month or in a couple months we decide to move away from these temporary buildings and look for a better building and if I could on that yes Tom is at maying commission we're also pursuing through insurance that since the um public safety building
over on 108 was substantially damaged that we do have the opportunity and we're looking for clarification that our temporary facilities are 100% covered by Insurance during the rebuild of a new public safety building nice and the last one we have on is ongoing
training and you know uh acquiring equipment and if you notice downstairs there's a yellow door it's a forceable entry prop and um that's something new that we got recently in the last budget and uh I'd like to brag on our guys recently we did a we have a group called
The Golf beaches training group which is Sun Coast which is Indian Rocks and rington Mader Beach Treasure Island St P Beach South Pasadena and Golfport fire departments we all get together and we do large training exercises and we recently did a live fire drill which
included a force entry into a structure while other units are trying to attack the fire or do a rescue and I can tell you honestly that our guys outperformed every single fire department hands down we actually have one firefighter I'm very proud of him one person technique had that door open
within like 25 seconds while other fire departments using three people were taking five six seven minutes so that kind of stuff is what we want yeah so that's and that's it any questions Chief you mentioned that there were two options you were uh looking at under
temporary facilities what was the second option uh different like good structures like a trailer or mobile home type stuff double wide or triple wide trailers so we're look at that Chuck I thought we were looking at using the uh Community Center as a as a
possibility correct we're working to try to try and get quotes for that there is some difficulty in contractors responding back but they are still pursuing to take a look at what it would cost um over at the Recreation Center to House police fire if I can if I can jump in on that that was going to be part of
mine as well but um the cost of these other trailer options we found is completely different than the ones out here and it would be cheaper to be in these trailers for two years especially if Insurance paying it than converting the than converting the community center we had a rough estimate
done uh no one will put anything in writing yet but from what they from the walkthrough we had with a contractor he's giving us a rough estimate and these trailers the the second trailer option not the ones we're in now it's going to be more of like a construction
type offices portable classroom type trailers would be much less expensive than converting the community center do they have to be removed during a hurricane uh apparently not they're going to be anchored down and they're also going to be elevated somewhat with a I think a five I think it's a five
step I can't I'm thinking the picture in my head either four or five steps to get up into them so they're going to be a few feet higher higher than the ones we have out there are they likely to be on Wheels it's going to be on Wheels that's exactly would make sense you would evacuate those uh in the event of a
storm if they were on wheels that would be in the contract we have with the company yeah and where would they go at the parking lot of the uh public police station on the8th correct thank you um I I had a question
around the the new building um I I I know I think it was voted that we were going to build it next door um which I'm not sure is the best place for it but that's kind of here or there my question is around the budg if I read it correctly I thought there was $8 million in the budget for a new
building and then I know we're talking about spending 12 so I'm just trying to figure out you know how did that happen and then where are we expecting to get that extra $4 million from uh that happened because of timing because that
original budget was I believe before I even got here in 2019 to 2020 and construction costs are increasing every year once again that's based on $1,000 a square foot for this type of construction and we're asking the state for $6 million procurement um in this
year's budget to assist with that and there's also from some FEMA monies that are available and then perhaps some monies from the county I mean I'm not counting on any of that but that's what we're asking to try and supplement that original budget number yeah that F May will probably
take a while to get um other question I had around the temporary talking about getting new temporary places it seems like it would be less expensive to do the community sitter or is there any room in here that can be used temporarily it like it would be better than being in a tiny box out in the
parking lot um I mean if I if I think if I'm correct like The Debt Service on this building is like a million dollars a year so it' be nice if we could at least use it temporarily instead of being in a box outside but we we will come up with all the numbers for
everything and that'll be up to you to give us guidance on that I mean we'll give you the raw data and the on everything and that can be up to direction from the commission for that and just to be clear um make sure I heard correctly that there is a possibility being that the buildings the
current standing ones on 108 have been substantially damaged that that may be 100% paid for because of that while the others building that's correct the temporary facilities will get paid for our insurance for up to two years while we're building a new structure good I
was hoping that's what I heard right you did so I want to add some financial information to for comparison uh South Pasadena just opened a new fire station just before the storm hit that's just a fire station um with the Phill uh to
elevate it and it costs them $10 million and that's just a fire station not Public Safety with an EOC thank you Tom mayor and Commissioners if I could add functionally this is the fire department Department's top five current projects but what's not listed up there is um
deputy chief Tom Brennan is actually not completely working in the fire department he's assisting the Community Development part department with processing permits and uh he's working with that team right now hand inand to make sure that we're returning residents
to their homes as quickly as possible ensuring that people are getting their substantial damage determinations completed you know and it and has been a catalyst for changing and over overhauling a process that um just needed some assistance so thank you for what you're doing there to thank you I
do appreciate that but you're only as good as your team and uh there's a very strong team in permitting and those ladies I'll call them ladies and also flood plane where Jesse is they're very strong and they they are very dedicated and working with
them we created the plan so make sure we give them credit yeah okay thank you I'm going to go off script for a second here first of all congratulations to the uh new Commissioners um I really appreciate the fact that I was able to sit down and meet with each of you
individually with your questions and concerns about the police department here this shows a lot of support for the department and we really appreciate that especially after what we've been through along with the residents um you got to remember we feel the same thing the residents who and our officers are reminded every day by going into that temporary metal structure that we are
still in crisis mode and if I can address that I apologize in advance um to the city manager um some some members of the public were questioning about you know what our plan is and if we're doing any kind of a review you have to trust us and I apologize my back is to you but
understand this was a unprecedented weather event unprecedented disaster for the community for the officers for the firefighters involved this is kind of the realm that I worked in for many many years I was a SWAT te Commander um when I retired from nebor I was on SWAT for
23 years um I was the airport liaison officer in the city of Naples I worked aircraft crashes I worked all sorts of disasters I worked more tabletop exercises I've helped more emergency plans than I can shake a stick at we are absolutely doing that it would be irresponsible for us not to I don't know
any organization any government entity that does not change or work plans or do um Readiness exercises to make sure they are prepared for the next one uh there's a phrase that my friend the police chief in Panama City Police Department says
after they get wiped out by Michael he says well you know what they say if you've been through a hurricane you've been through a hurricane they are all completely different they all have different characteristics they all bring different damages with them so you work within that plan and you make yourself better and you're ready to roll next time um I kind of knew what we were
going to do from the police side was I expecting to lose our facilities absolutely not but we everybody persevered we pulled together and we're going to get better and stronger for that and I just want to reassure the commission and the community that we will be better after this um unfortunately we're the experts now in
this crap because it hasn't happened anybody um I've sat on several panels across the State of Florida already as an expert I didn't want to be an expert in this but I hit the trifecta because my home flooded my office was destroyed and the city that I love and have adopted is it was destroyed by a storm
as well so everybody wants to hear how that happened and Leadership and stuff and that's what I've been doing around the State of Florida for future police Chiefs new police Chiefs and at our midwinter conference in Orlando um I was one of the keynote speakers on a panel about hurricane preparedness and
disaster so rest assured we will get better from this the plans are being place and anything that didn't work we will make sure it's working next time so back on script now any questions on that sorry I should have asked I'm just going to speak up
real fast as a resident um I think you guys did an incredible job I mean no none of us have ever been through any of that here and I personally my husband threw his back out through all of that um we brought our little Boston Whaler over before hardly anybody was here and
I will tell you I was one of the very few people out here and I was by myself and officer Cody could tell you um I was out there by myself and and I had a few officers you know question me and they're like why you know why would you want to be out here by yourself and I'm
like well I trust you and I kind of trust what I had to but um I will tell you even at that point I saw officers going by every 15 20 minutes and I think you guys did a great job so I just
wanted to say that thank you I felt very safe after the storm with all the extra help you got so that was awesome thank you for your leadership thank you okay we've already talked about the public safety building the second thing on the list and and as far as progress go these are things that we kind of
analyze and work on more than just annually this is you know we do this all the time and you see this step you see this on my weekly report to the city manager a step is selected traffic enforcement program what we do when we have we identify areas where we have a lot of speeders traffic crashes
and stuff like that and we say okay how can we make this area safer and how can we make this area better the numbers aren't out yet but uh last year we had a dramatic decrease in uh fatal accidents of course and just traffic crashes on the whole I think we're going to hit another decrease this year but we'll know when we get the official numbers
from the state should be in about July so we're looking forward to that and that's because the step program works I've met with a lot of you on the commission um about speeding I met with a lot of members in the audience about speeding and different issues around that trust me that is our bread and butter right now I tell people when I pull them over myself and you see me
pull make traffic stops is that's my number one complaint as chief of police Speeders and dogs on the beach so and I'll I'll take that as complaints but that's how we address that through the step program you see the radar trailers we have on the St James Bridge both directions those are incredibly active that's why
we haven't moved them yet but you'll see we've also placed speed speed reading signs along at different neighborhoods we do get data from those as well we most our most recent one was uh installed on the AL of Capri right before you go over the bridge on Capri and uh if we have the the measurables to
install another one and we need that we will absolutely do that um we are all doing analysis of our vehicle Fleet now that we have the take-home car program we're looking at the mileage any maintenance cost and conditions of vehicles to make sure we have the best and well-maintained Fleet out there what
that means is we're also looking at our vehicles to make sure they're not maintenance Hogs and they're not costing us too much money and whether or not they need to be taken out of the uh Fleet um we talked about options for temporary police facilities as I said we'll bring you costs and estimates we'll bring that up forward and another
thing we're doing that sounds very similar what the fire department is doing we have a collaboration uh collaboration program with uh Indian Shores Police Department and the belir police department and Ours kind of putting together some of our trainers and stuff so we can train our officers a little bit um saving some money on
training programs because there's a lot of good trainers and all three of those departments getting together we all of kind of like size and like communities that we Patrol and taking care of one another and trying to save some money by helping each other out that way any questions the step locations
that you talk about in uh bullet point number two there we have two of those uh uh radar uh controlled uh devices that we use correct there's two radar trailers and a a matter of fact we won those for um traffic enforcement through
do programs okay we were awarded those and and how much do those cost roughly I believe they're about $20,000 a piece but we got them both for free both for free we should try to get some more of those I'd like to have one on West Golf
Boulevard as well down at Sunset Beach yes anything else thank you great job thank you thanks Chief next we have public works good evening Commissioners mayor congratulations new Commissioners you're going to have a lot
of fun up here I'm sure uh in public works uh we gave you I think 90 two projects a couple months ago you picked like four or five of them that you your highest ratings these were the top three for Public Works Master
Pump Station and Public Works building the RFQ uh went out um for Design Services back in the end of February uh or actually middle of February the sponsors are due next week which is
March 26 we'll score the S soqs uh and um on April 3rd which will be a public uh meeting uh request to negotiate will come to the commission on the 15th so what we'll do is we'll bring our top one
two or three depending on what they are we'll you'll then we'll rank them you'll we'll ask you to negotiate with the top ranking one and you'll tell us to go ahead and we'll start negotiating pricing at that point so that we have only thing that we're going to negotiate
after the contract is signed is the effort that's going to be put into it so that's one less thing we have to negotiate um we'll present The Design Services contract to you I believe on the May 20th uh commission meeting and at that point we'll start design
work uh SE wall repair and replacement uh we're going to uh present Design Services proposal to you at the next um meeting in April 1st um we anticipate uh an invitation to bid on
August 2025 the reason why we have to have Design Services we were going to do it with invitation to bid but it kind of went over a limit on how much of the Engineering Services so we need to have an actual Design Services contract put those together so that we can go out for
an ITB invitation to bid we anticipate a ward around September Dune walkovers I've heard a few of them we had all 29 of our Dune walkovers pretty much damaged 100 100%
uh we put in for uh a FEMA reimbursement I believe in the $3.8 million range somewhere in there to replace all those so we're going to again we're going to go out to design for that because of the amount of work that has to be done um we
anticipate invitation to bid around September of 2025 and then anticipate award around October 2025 the Dune walkovers are going to take years to get back remember during what
is it uh May through October is the turtle season we can't work on the beach side so what we'll do is on those non turtle T times we'll try to get all the the Beachside stuff worked on and then we'll jump onto the uh onto the Shor
side and then we'll do those so it's going to be hopscotching around on how we um we get all those Dune walkovers put back uh the seaw wall repair replacement is that including easements in in all
districts because in District 3 uh between 10230 and 10232 Tarpon Drive the easan seaw wall is collapsing this will be for all repairs there's a ranking of them and I'm sure that 10 foot easement is probably one of
the ones that are high higher up in the easement but yes this is for all seaw wall repairs and what we have is about I believe $300,000 a year we probably have
about $30 million worth of seaw walls so at that rate we've got a little bit of time to kind of get all those done but to go faster you just got to put more money into the budget and we'll go as fast as we can with that but that this
has to be done first so that that we can get an ITB and what we'll do is we'll do a a fiveyear uh contract with a contractor with maybe a couple years uh extension at the end and that'll probably be with both uh the seaw walls and the Dune
walkovers are we raising up the seaw walls uh the answer to that question probably is going to come out of the next couple of meetings you all are going to have so I don't really want to jump the gun on saying yes or
no couple of questions uh first of all are are we going to have the Gulf Boulevard paved sometime in 25 or 26 the last time I heard the last thing I heard from the from fdot was blinds
pass up to uh right at the corner is is in 2025 that may have been delayed because of the storm and then the rest of it is supposed to happen every 10 years and so 2026 would be the 10e mark okay and how
much undergrounding do we still have left okay so with the undergrounding um I believe we're probably 60% complete uh we still have all the lights that have to come up and get undergrounded also and then we also have
the um uh cable so those are all supposed to be finished by December of 2026 okay so I'm just hoping that we're not going to be cutting the road after
it's been paved and you know no cutting in the road and and and undergrounding okay we go underground it um we we bore right underneath it all right all right Mike I had I have some questions a couple of questions one is
about Dune walkovers that anticipated award date in October 2025 concerns me quite a bit first of all October 2025 sounds like a long time but you mentioned uh Turtle season which starts in October and ends in May so that means
we wouldn't even get started on rebuilding the first dune walkover until May of 2026 you can you can work on the dunes that are not all the way to the beach side so what the plan would be is in the
non turtle season is you build the beach side or the Golf Boulevard side and then non-season you go back to the other side and build those so let's say we had enough time to build three so we build
three that I mean it's not finished until you get the other side so you do in halves right so we you can't disturb the turtles all right and the other thing I was going to ask if you could ask uh uh the Commissioners to prioritize those uh
Dune walkovers which ones need to get uh done first because even though there's 26 or 28 of them I think you said 29 some some are more critical than others in terms of of their the urgency of the
of the need there so if you could reach out to us and get our feedback uh we would appreciate that uh regarding the master or not the master Pump Station but the Public Works building uh you've heard quite a bit and you heard it again tonight about the uh uh the possibility
of Outsourcing uh uh solid waste and I know we've talked about that quite a bit how much of that decision impacts the design of the Public Works building as we know it and and again just for the official
record I and I told the city manager this many times I'm not for or against Outsourcing uh solid waste removal what I'm for is doing a financial analysis of the two to see if it makes sense for us to do it but anyway so uh the the
question really is uh how much is the design that that you've already started uh for the Public Works building how much of that is affected by the the amount of parking space we need
or will need under both scenarios okay so just in solid waste trucks we have five okay so just solid waste not talking about the the umw the claw trucks just just just the five that we
have um so you remove those five and you remove uh if we're not going to do any special pickups we're not going to do the beach the other things you've got another six people about so you're going
to have six less parking spots for employees and you're going to have five less trucks so you're going to get what would that be uh 11 parking spots so so the answer is you're you're not uh considering that
possibility in the design the possibility that the those might be outsourced or do you think it's such it's I don't I don't think it really it's not going to matter on the design from what I see unless we do something more drastic than just get rid
of solid waste I mean if you're trying to re if you're trying to make the size of the Public Works Yard smaller right cuz the majority of it is parking for our
vehicles so you're not going to get rid of a whole lot now there's other options to it you take home Vehicles right so you don't have vehicles truck Vehicles out there you
take them home so there's another way of reducing the parking space the other way is um do what madira beach does they Park their vehicles off site so we'd buy property off site or rent property offsite and you'd Park them off
site now you now you now you're taking that that parking spot smaller and smaller right but you're not going to get a whole lot until we start looking at other parts of Public Works which I not suggesting at all but
I think you're talking a little bit more to the to the yard size versus the facility size that's correct yeah I'm I'm looking at the yard size the facility side isn't going to change the facility I mean we don't have an office space for each individual person we have
a we're going to have like a conference room or a lunchroom and you know that size is what maybe we'll and just and just like now I think there's some shared there was some shared supervisor uh rooms over within the old Public Works facility you know
there was a multip small building in one the building is small the yard is large because we're full service the less Services you have the less Vehicles you have the less people
you have you start smaller that down so just by getting by privatizing Solid Waste list if you solid waste all of it meaning all that all we do on it
you're getting you know a little bit but Mike what are some of the other things that are stored out in the yard currently Okay so we have a we have a VOR truck which is about the size of a garbage truck maybe a little bit bigger
we have um emergency generators for when we lose power we have emergency bypass pumps so when we lose power or we lose a station due to Electric let's say a um a lightning strike on a panel you can't
run it on on electricity because I on on a generator you have to go and put a bypass pump we've got tool cats we've got um we have a lot of space being used for um dumpsters because we go through
dumpsters so quickly so that will you know without having that on the island if it was off the island or outsourced um it you'd have a little bit of extra space on there okay it's going to take some guidance on what what are
you what are you looking for I mean if you're looking to to not have those trucks in the yard there's a lot a lot that has to be decided and I think um Mike has come up with a rendering of the yard piece which we can bring back to the commission so
you can take a look at it just to to show if there was a change in the services you know whether it was residential or commercial or everything on what the impact would be yeah we even looked at it having having our guys whoever you know we assign one person we right now we have trucks and they all
stay here we don't I think we maybe have one truck that goes home with somebody what we would do is assign somebody a truck now what now what that does is they go home with the truck they come back with the truck they don't have a parking spot right so you get two two hits with that one that that would be a
a good way of reducing the size of the yard okay what else can we Outsource oh you can Outsource all the public works you can I mean yeah you can you can p you can you can have the county come in here take over Wastewater you
have the county come in take over storm water you have the county come in and take over everything grounds so you can Outsource all of it I no I I was just going to say if if I'm correct and this is I'll be real
quick if I'm correct Madera Beach outsources their um the U sewer correct penel County that's what I thought okay sorry Chris I had a question uh kind of along what commissioner Dicky was going to ask and
and that is since you know the size first of all I like to see that analysis myself on I'm not saying I'm for or against it either but I'd like to understand the cost implications of Outsourcing the trash so I don't know what we have to do up here to get that
but I'd like to see that but my yeah that was kind of my question is would that affect the size of the building size of the lot and the another question I have is it's my understanding you know this map Master pump station's long overdue and it seems to me like it's always coupled with the Public Works
building right so is there a way first of all is that is that true what I'm saying and then secondly if it is is there a way to uncouple them so it's is it possible to get the lift station done and not wait on the Public's Works building or is it all have to be all one
package deal commissioner in case you didn't know the Public's work facility was wrecked during the storm um the roof was torn off during Milton so there's actually not a facility that they're currently working in which is why
there's such a a need for having a new Public Works facility okay which is why it's within the top five require with so it won't slow down the lift station though either yeah and for being coupled I think it was just put together because when you look at the site constraints
that are there on that piece of property mobilizing twice to get over and to do two separate projects is a waste of money and it would take longer so to do them concurrently you are saving money and facilitating the building to go
quicker how how big is the the Public Works building that is out for RFQ I don't know that off that top of my it's a two story building it's basically the same um about the same size as the
the um the one that's Tor going to be torn down next week um it's it's it's very small I mean we're not talking about a whole big build I and again I don't have this square footage in my head got you we can
get that back to you thank you oh one last question thees seaw wall you said there's going to be a order of which they go in can we what the seaw walls there's going to be or can we get that like I I just know the one on 115 and District 2 is in really bad shape
that one yeah the 115 um and the one on the 110 or um 10 foot Tarpon that one there's one over on there's a bunch of them that are in bad shape remember they've never been
replaced in the 60 years that's crazy yeah along with 108 Street 10 e8th Street also correct behind City Hall that'll that'll come with the development yeah yeah there's a lot of seaw walls out
there we had a report done if you if you like it just send a an email to Chuck or myself and I'll I'll just attach a the um the report that was I believe it's two or three years old I don't remember exactly when it came out but it's it's
pretty detailed on what you know what needs to be not what needs to be done but what the con the assess the condition of them is thank you yep thanks Mike thank you quick question what do we have to do
to get us get a numbers on Outsourcing and compare it to we have to do that during a regular meeting with a motion or how do we request getting that analysis it'd be a workshop TR were you talking in reference to
Solid Waste which yes I think I mentioned a few minutes ago that we're going to have a solid waste discussion at the workshop on the 15th okay yeah but just to follow up with that if there was anything that you were interested in um finding out that
information for it would just be a consensus Direction by the commission for to the city manager and then he would look into it and bring it back to you at a workshop to discuss we're through three of I think eight or nine oh my
goodness Kathy are you please good evening and congratulations to the new commission um few things Treasure Bay first of all we did start the living Shoreline project in December of 2024 it is slated to be done sometime
summer of 2025 that does include the living Shoreline um renovation of the ponds it has a walking trail and gazebo's exercise equipment and a kayak launch which the city did receive a grant from the
Florida Recreation development assistance program of $50,000 and just so you know that the um kayak launch will be delivered tomorrow won't be installed yet but it is um slated to arrive um so during hurricanes Helen and Milton treasure base is
staying damage um Helen did damage to our facilities and Milton finished off our tennis courts our Wally watch sheds and our roof to our Maintenance building so I've been working with the United States tennis Association on their Hurricane Relief Grant we've met with
them in person on site and we are trying to get all the fencing um hopefully some of our electric that was damaged on the courts and the lights and the courts themselves um funded through the hurricane relief Grant I should No More
by the middle to the end of this month um we currently have received four uh quotes for the tennis fence because we range anywhere from 124,000 to um 326,000 to replace the tennis court so
hopefully by either the April 1st or the 15th I should be bringing um my recommendation for a fence company so we can get all the um courts fixed and the USA Grant would be um we would pay up front and they would refund us for the
money our buildings as I said we have three par or three buildings on that parcel we have our clubhouse we have our bath house which is our restroom facility and our Maintenance building um the clubhouse took almost we went from Florida ceiling and water and it has
been um demoed completely we lost the roof on our Maintenance building so I have um we went through penel County and the valuations are very low for the building so we have had um a private appraiser do a valuation on the building
came in a little bit higher so we do have I am working with uh companies to try to get quotes so we can start somewhere and know what we need and where we need to go um that Clubhouse building none of the buildings out there were substantially damaged um we do have
money in the budget for fiscal year 25 to do work to the clubhouse which included the storefronts the windows the floor the stucco and painting so there is money budgeted to repair that if necessary we also have our Ada playground that we're getting quotes on
it's a sway swing that we were looking at in previous years and it is funded through this year as well as we're getting quotes for relining and resurfacing the asphalt courts um both for the tennis and uh pickle ball courts so with that moving forward the next
step we need to decide is what we're going to do with the Treasure Bay Golf Course and we're going to need to have that discussion um pretty much in the next few months so once we know the living Shor Line's done what happens next is the question so that will be something we'll be bringing
to the commission for discussion and a decision um on the future of the golf course roselli Park um we have we've been working with the city attorney to get an RFP out for the conversion of the tennis courts to pickle ball courts on
roselli we do have quote we're getting quotes for the ball field dugouts and then the base lights we purchased those in fiscal year 24 they did survive the storm um but we are waiting on the company Sanchez electric to give us an
update as to when they can install because their equipment was damaged so we're on the list but we do not have an installation date our school bus um we have had $110,000 in the last few years budgets that just keep getting pushed
every year further and further um we do have a 19 1999 Thomas school bus um it's used for summer camp it's used for emergency response and Recovery which during Hurricane Lan and mnet was used quite frequently it's used more and more
now for off-site parking for um different events that we do so mayor doctor had come to me and finally said please get a quote so I have reive three quotes um for a Thomas an avastar and a bluebird and they come in anywhere from
140 to 156 um so there will be additional cost and so a decision will need to be made on whether or not to proceed with a new bus our Beach Pavilion I'll start with the playground it was completed um wind
uh the shade structure goes up tomorrow so then we should have the playground open that was approved this summer it just so happened that um we needed a new one after the storm so it has been installed and hopefully they'll be able ble to use it by the weekend but the
Beach Pavilion has been um deemed substantially damaged again looking at quotes and what we can do to repair um and different options if we need to elevate certain aspects of it like a restroom or the restroom facilities and
how do we bring it back and build it back so that will be a qu a a decision we'll be making here in the near future and then obviously Treasure Island Park um that was put in the budget this year for Park planning um we have money for a
architect a landscape architect to help us with renderings but the staff is going to start meeting with the public and just kind of find out what they want to see in Treasure Island Park similar to what we did when we did Isa Palms so we hopefully we'll have a decision to
come back to the commission with different ideas by summer and then we do have funds in the budget for a new Pavilion and exercise equipment so I'm here to answer any questions and just for mayor do um Isa Palms we should be closing that on April 5th nice so
finally um Isa Palms Park should be closed and we should get our funds for reimbursement for the purchase of the park and what was that reimbursement again I think it was 269 out of the 400,000 thank you so I'm here to answer any questions anybody got any questions
cuz I got some statements super quick question I was somewhat involved but um are when we put the RFP out for the pickle ball courts in relli park are we going to turn them so we're they're going to be slightly turned yes thank you we have a pickle ball committee that
we've been meeting with so um yes we heard you were a good pickle ball player so we've been told that it it helps when you can see the ball when it's coming at you yeah it might actually come really close to the shuffle board courts but we do have it slightly turned
cool so Treasure Bay is in my district yes I personally think the golf course is a cow pasted um I don't think we should rehab any of those dumps especially the clubhouse I think we should tear it down and elevate it and maybe explore some
options in the future with a private partnership or something Restaurant Marina you know docks you know all that stuff I think it's long gone so that's my well said
I agree I agree with that 100% and from what I've heard of the past I think it was before I was here possibly but we were given the option do you want the golf course or Nothing what I'd like to see is do you want the golf course or you want this really cool thing that the whole Community can use and then vote on that and I think you get a different
outcome so and that will be a decision that the commission will have to address and make so as a hotelier as well I would send customers in the past to the golf course and I call it a two Club course you just bring your Putter and your uh that little angle one whatever that's called uh I don't play golf um
and um yeah a lot of customers the feedback was why'd you send me there you owe me $8 yep it's definitely was overdue and needed rehab so that is a decision that will have to be made regarding Treasure Bay and the Beach Pavilion will be two big decisions and
as for the bus I really do miss the treasure on transit system that was that's excellent umad to remove that but can we rent school buses so we did that in the past and they're just as much to rent for the 10 we summer camp if not
more than it is to purchase one gotcha we actually used to go to Orlando Orange Blossom Trail to pick up the buses wow and at this point is the golf course even a golf course um I I will say the
living Shoreline is taking its toll on the property right now so we have a lot of rehab to do even in the common areas yeah I mean where I'm from in the midwest you can have a property like that be a total Community Place with the Band Shell where we could have concerts
and we could have you know City events there along with many other things I think it could be a really nice nice element to add to the community so thank you and one other thing just visit St P Clare water you can vote for
Treasure Island as the number one beach but under Festival please write in sanding Ovations we didn't make the list this year so is it possible to rent a bus with another or uh share a bus cost with another city we could I think Madera Beach has bought a 77 passenger
and I know like with John's Pass when they do the seafood festival and things they call us to borrow our bus it's just because our bus is 26 years old it's not the most reliable so a little hesitant on that but think we could have a lot of shared uses um before covid one of the
things was to do we don't want to call them senior trips but we called them day Trippers but we had to cancel during Co and kind of never really started it back up thank you great thank you thanks next would be human resources hello again um I did not have
an opportunity to say congratulations to everyone I look forward to working with you um as human resources my name is Jessica um in case we haven't formally met yet but I think we have um I will be uh contacting each of you uh first thing tomorrow morning so we can do your onboarding just to let you know a little
HR thing that I got going on um so just in case you're you're not aware of what all HR handles for the city we handle everything from recruiting training and development uh onboarding offboarding all of the risk management with Jen's very awesome guidance thank you very much um and risk management has
obviously played a huge role in hr's uh uh just life right now so um Beyond what's happening with the insurance and and everything else these are a few things that I've been trying to get accomplished uh since I started about maybe about 18 months ago or so so the
first thing we need to do is update the Personnel policy manual um it hasn't been uh revised since 2014 so there are some policies that are just outdated a lot of things we need to take a look at um it is going to be up to commission though to approve those changes um what I don't want to do is peac meal it
because I want to ensure that we don't have anything that conflicts so when you get this product uh it is my goal to give you a full fully updated and revised policy manual so it is going to be a lot of reading um but like I said I don't want anything to conflict on accident because I'm just trying to go
you know pece meal things together um it is my goal to bring it to a full revision forward this fiscal year uh it's been a little rough like I said with the risk management portion of it I do have a new HR generalist starting her name is Ashley Kinsey she's going to start on Monday she has an excellent
benefits background which is really going to help take some of that off of my plate um so I'm very much looking forward to uh having her come on board so I think that's going to help me out with a little bit of time uh I want to do a full review of all of our insurance policies I was still pretty new when everything hit um and so I wanted kind
of go through th those lessons regarding mitigation remediation damage assessments everything I want to look at all of our our policies um really if anything like this happens again when it happens again I want to be able to recite our policies and exactly what's covered so uh so I'll be doing a full review of that and then my whole
background a lot of my background is training and development so um we do need more classes for staff um some of that I can partner with uh other municipalities uh I meet with HR directors uh throughout the county uh every quarter um and we are initiating uh some of those free training classes
so we're looking into like leadership Financial Wellness safety um anything that will help our uh employees grow uh professionally uh within our organization so any questions great I look forward to working with all of you how are we
coming with the open positions that we have so in particular the director positions yeah so with the finance director we are still recruiting for that particular position it's out uh in every fi in the finance world it's out there um but we're just unfortunately
we're just not getting a lot of on that particular uh position so I look pretty much every day to see who all has applied and unfortunately just no one of the uh the experience that we're needing right now do we have to increase the range of pay that was actually going to
be something that I was going to suggest um but the other thing though that I also wanted to look at was just internally what our finance department looks like um and do we need to make any updates or changes at this time to see kind of How It's structured and do we have folks from within who could do um
some of you know some of these roles take on some more things like so structurally what does the or you know that particular part of the organ organization look like and Chuck and I have been having conversations about that along with uh Mike Howard our interm uh it or Finance director
sorry so any additional questions all right thank you you Economic Development um good evening um Commissioners uh and congratulations to the new ones and mayor um
congratulations on your re-election um I'm Joan Goodrich uh Treasure Islands economic development director um my tenure is two and a half months in and what a wild R it has been um you all
chose to add the economics develop function to city services um during the last budget cycle and right before the storm season um again Economic Development um at a municipal level is important
because it helps our City's Financial Health it it builds our local tax base of course we grow and support our local businesses who in turn create jobs for our families and return all kinds of benefits um to our community when asked
of course the unprecedented 2024 storm season um was also um a sucker punch to our local economy just like our Residential Properties our commercial property um and spaces have been devastated have been
destroyed um and so um that is going to hurt us um in the short term but it also gives us a wonderful opportunity to um do a Renaissance here in Treasure Island
um I'm so fortunate that in this short tenure that I've been here I'm supporting the city manager working group for um rebuild Treasure Island and it's given me um amazing insight into um what our community um is looking for
what our needs of our businesses are and um because I can tell you I was with the Count's economic development team when the when the storms came through actually three storms because we often don't talk about Debbie but when I was
walking um with my partners at the County's economic development team here on um the beach communities and sat with um business owners who were just sobbing because they lost their businesses they lost their homes because of the Nuance
that many of our owners entrepreneurs um actually lived here too um and were just sobbing because while they weren't while it was um a lot because their families were impacted um many of them were more
distraught because they knew they'd have to let their employees go um they knew they'd have to make some hard decisions on whether they were going to um close rebuild um and go from there so um the
for the foresight um is what this community had and when I'm now out and about advocating for our needs and at all kinds of um tables and situations I can tell you it's quite impactful when
um I'm talking with some of our County Partners who um haven't been possibly to to our community or other Beach communities to really see um the devastation up close um I'm a bit of a
data person so one of the data points that we learned about in our rebuild Treasure Island working group was um Treasure Island had 10% of the residential damage here in pelis and we
represent less than 1% of our County's population so you know how we're feeling every day is certainly um again something that we're trying to raise our voices forward to our County Partners
our state Partners our federal Partners so it's been a true privilege again to to work with um the city manager and the volunteer leaders from our community to raise our voices forward um just recently um uh commissioner Dicky and I
were at a regional planning Council workshop and we learned of another funding source potentially for our long list of needs that some of the team members just went over um so we've packaged up all of our needs on our
beaches we've packaged up all of our need needs in infrastructure um downtown um and some of our planning needs and just our um recent proposals to the economic development Administration total 25 million so
that's been some of the work that I've been doing since I've joined the team two and a half um months ago uh but my approach to economic development is pretty simple it's about taking care of
who's already here and Technical terms it's normally called expansion retention and expansion BR and sometimes you know folks like me talk about business attraction and business startup but for at this um moment in time you know
business recovery and rebuilding is is what I've been focused on of course um somebody like me as an advocate for businesses that are here um on a daily basis you know talks to a business that you might refer me to or one that I
might just walk in I listen to what um they are experiencing at that moment in time and then we'll do the problem solving that's necessary um I'm going to right now I'm just putting a label on that as business Navigator services so
um again some of of the businesses that we've done some unique problem solving on some unique coner service I just want to point out um I'm so appreciative to our community development team in particular our director Katherine um who
came up with a unique solution to help our Cades of Treasure Island and of course that's where the um uh amendment to our special events ordinance came into be in order to allow for temporary facilities for those local businesses rebuild
that's just an example of business Navigator in in a sense when the billmar was in a panic because their first wedding um was coming down the pike and they they were still looking for their
permit for the ballroom and Clyde was on the phone with the bride you know who is in an all right you know an all Panic again the team here um in Community Development and permitting you know got
on the bill more what they needed Jacqueline Salon and Spa is another example of the business Navigator services in collaboration with other city um departments that's occurring I'm currently working on some of the needs
of a few of our small business owners that are having difficulty um with employee parking so um I'm I'm looking at the parking issue with as many people that have expertise opinions we're we're
looking at um bringing in some outside perspective on that because I'd love to see us try to solve um parking in our downtown um in a more um what what uh not real but comprehensive yeah
comprehensive sustainable manner I should say So speaking of the downtown that includes the other part of my business plan which is looking at our strategic areas of opportunity so again starting with the downtown I've been so privileged to sit with um uh some of you
um other community leaders other um uh development um leaders that are in our community that are are giving me again that that impetus to really make my biggest ask tonight of you which is again you just put the economic
development function in place we just started to get to work in January so we missed the opportunity to talk about um any of the priorities for economic development in the business planning and budgeting um cycle well but
we're going to start that together so my one ask is that we raise downtown as a city commission priority so we can work on that together and with the lens of um all of these important things that we've
talked about the city's making extraordinary investment in the downtown we're one of the largest property owners in the downtown and um I believe it's time to set that table um to have some of those strategic conversations around
downtown along with other property owners in the downtown our residents our community as to what that next um chapter in um Treasure Island Renaissance will will be John's Pass um
I know is another um exciting opportunity for us here in Treasure Island um I have yet to meet um the team out of Tampa um but I've heard all great things and I know our team is working on just some technical issues associated
with that site including um Kingfish drive and I want to thank um our City attorney um for for helping um bring that forward with our County um I also have Treasure Bay as a strategic area of
opportunity for an economic development um perspective and this is in large part in addition to the work that Kathy um leads for us in Treasure Bay it's really the club of Treasure Island that's an extraordinary amenity 47 slip Marina
property Junior Olympic swimming pool catering hall built Out restaurant um that possibly um we can do something um exciting with industry insights and engagements and Partnerships is also the um last part of my business plan
Economic Development doesn't happen with one person um economic development is a team play I like to say a stronger economy is everyone's business and that's the approach that um I'm taking here in in Treasure Island so I just
want to um thank you all for um the opportunity to update you on on what your office of Economic Development has been doing I want to thank my colleagues for their welcoming spirit and everything that they do to help um us problem solve for our local
businesses thank you very good thank you I have a question yeah quicker oh yeah sorry uh Treasure Bay of course is in my district what's your vision for that important property well if I um won the lottery
I'd buy it for the city of Treasure Island and it would be be one of our newest amenities gotcha but in but in the meantime yeah until I win the lottery um or until we win um some other resources I think
again it's um in other Beach communities that I've worked in an amenity like that um an office like mine have have helped owners um because I've been in in contact with their representative so um they have been looking for leasing
opportunities um they're ready um I think to go ahead and sell that property so the best thing that we can do is go ahead and Joe um we're not talking about the country club we're talking about Treasure Bay the golf course where we're doing oh I'm so sorry see I've got the
one thing in my mind the yacht club that one I would buy for sure if I the yach club for us oh um really I have I don't have um any significant thoughts at this time okay but would love to work with the team on
on what we need to do thank you thank you uh I'm rambling quick question SL statement it's probably more for the commission than it is for you but thank you I i' I've seen one of the main reasons I'm up here is because I want to see some of this stuff get done and I've
seen drawings over the past for beautiful drawings up at Gator's property beautiful dra drawings of downtown we now have beautiful drawings for Treasure Bay that some residents have put together so I guess my question is but when you talk to any of these
owners of these businesses of these of this land or any of these companies they just say Treasure Island has wants nothing to do with me so what are we going to do as a commission to get some of these projects moving and off the ground because I mean right now I mean
if things don't change and I think some of it has to do with the code um we're not we're we're just going to continue where we are so I I guess I'm looking for some commitment that we try to get some of this stuff done glad you brought that up CH so um Gators is owned by HCI and that's
property has been empty for like 15 years it's almost year after year just I don't even know how long it's been empty for but 2016 they had a really awesome plan to put something there and of course it failed in the PD in in 2016 uh you know
downtown uh I hear that uh the Burton family is putting together a parking lot you know they're going to build a parking lot for Beach parking that's not the best use of downtown you know um there's the empty McDonald's uh uh property you know we can't force people
to build but we could work together to change our ldrs to figure out what's best fit for Treasure Island and I as well as a hotelier would like to see some changes there uh of course we don't want to be Clear Water Beach either um
that's been brought up a lot but I think we definitely have to uh make a change there I think it's yeah that's really it we we don't want to be Clear Water Beach but we can't let people convince the town that what's not going to be Clear Water Beach is Clear Water Beach which
which was happened in the past that's exactly right and I that's very well said Chris and and definitely it's we have to make changes I mean we're not living in the 70s and 80s um there's things that have to happen or our town will die and we have to work with the
property owners we can't ignore them like has been done in the past and definitely look forward to working with you and and staff and making that happen and working with the business owners you know we can't hide in our houses and and
cover our heads and hope everything gets developed the way we want it because we live in reality and you know you can't expect people to BU build something without getting a return on investment plain and simple and that's what we have to look at and I think you mentioned it but I think we need to have a workshop
and bring some of these you know business owners in I've talked to Anthony up from HCI you know he says your code contradicts itself in four places and I can't do anything y why don't we let them tell us what would
make it possible for them to be able to do something and then we can decide if that's something that we want we want to do it has to be worth their while to build something Absolutely I'll I'll just mention in the years that I've been doing this over 35 it is just as simple
as you all in our community saying we want you we we want you to grow businesses you know we want your capital investment here you know so even to just all get on that same page and
Inspire and take that out you know in and inspire in message this is our Renaissance we're committed let's go um it is sometimes just as simple as that but again my my ask is that you um raise uh at least the downtown up as a city
commission priority thank you last comment I mean you look at Denon it's not on the beach there's no tall buildings but it is bustling there's tons of businesses there I go there I don't go here there's nowhere to go here and I go there and you can spend the whole day there so how can we get
something on the workshop May well well again yes Catherine please oh Catherine is coming next I will get Catherine's next so Catherine bring it bring it in for welcome to all the new members and
returning members um so the Community Development Department um as most of you already know has pretty much like five divisions so we've got longrange planning which is things like the comp plan changes to the Future land
use or zoning map we have zoning which is everyday planning and plan review we have um flood plane management we have codes enforcement and building department sorry I'm
getting tired so um that involves all of the permitting functions as well so that's basically um covered by the Community Development Department um and right now we are in the process of our first year update to the Land Development regulations we adopted a new
comp plan in June of 2024 and we have one year by Statute to adopt Land Development regulations that are compliant with the comp plan uh we've been working on that and um that
is getting towards its final stages we're working on review with the um Consultants kimley horn is our consultant for that um they were actually on a um multi-year contract because the second year is this visioning that we've been talking about so we intentionally separated these
things because this first year is basically making the code more userfriendly making getting rid of these discrepancies and contradictions in the code and making the code easier to work with so that is the real goal making compliant with State statutes and
compliant with our comp plan that puts us in a better legal position um so the second year of the plan is this visioning that you're talking about um that's projected to kickoff in June um we could always do start visioning sooner but we're going to have a very
heavy lift to get this first year done by June and adopted by June so that would go to the the first year portion would go to the LPA in May and to the Commission in June so um at the same time we can start phase two which is
this whole visioning exercise of where do we want our code to go where do we want our downtown to go where do we want um Gators to go so um that is programmed in um and is part of the anticipation of what we'll be doing um the as you know
poster disaster permitting we were first hit with a very very high volume of permits that is now starting to turn to very complex permits um we have a major Hotel uh coming in on Friday that will be going to the
pnz um and we are starting to see a lot of rebuild permits so those are much more complicated reviews take more time um just by the nature of what they are because they're all new construction um the Elevate homes um are similarly
complex as far as that they go to zoning building flood plane for a review um so while we're seeing the numbers slowing down we're seeing the the complexity ramping up so we'll have some major projects coming in
um we the LPA um under their uh duties also has asked to do some visioning so maybe we need to talk about how this works together because uh they have issued a very idea that they want to be involved in
this visioning process and they want to talk about it at their meeting in April they want they also have the same priorities the same areas the same concerns um I'm sure everyone is talking to the same developers and getting kind of the same input so that makes total
sense um we have interm ordinances that we're working on as you well know we're talking about terrain but we're also um pushing through a sign ordinance right now that um will be going to the LPA um hopefully
in April uh we have if Terrain passes we'll be implementing uh all new checklist and all new permitting process for people who choose to do um bring in Phill um we're going to automate that through a
checklist that they go through and make sure that we've got all the documentation so that um is something we've worked on a lot during Hurricane is updating forms updating forms updating forms to make sure that people have everything they need so that they get their permit the first time um
substantial damage plan we did not have one in place before this storm fima has in their uh regular meetings that they're now having with us to make sure that we remain in compliance FEMA is strongly suggesting that we put one of those in place um that would come to you
for approval and funding if that goes forward um and we also have a future land use and zoning map amendment that comes with the grant money for is of Palms Park so we will have to change our future land use map and our zoning map to be compliant with the grant
conditions making those um zoned as Park Parks and Recreation so those are the major things we're working on right now and of course all the day-to-day stuff that we're always working on so any questions I got a
question what tell is coming to the LPA is that public knowledge it will be when they turn it in on Friday but I guess I could say they didn't tell me not to the Thunderbird I figured yeah uh so how do we CH start the process of changing the
the ldrs do we do different different like for example do we is it different for uh John's Pass is it different for downtown so right now they have different zoning so John's Pass has commercial zoning um which is not very good for residential use it's it's very
a small portion of residential um as I mentioned someone in the other day I actually in the private sector developed two different plans for John's Pass and both developers decided not to move forward um because of the density problem with residential uh it is
difficult to increase residential use in a Barrier Island because of evacuation and we're in the coastal High Hazard zone so that typically comes with what's called a special area plan which is similar to what we did with downtown that's how we did the downtown planning so that's an
extra step of visioning economic analysis and everything else that goes with it in order to show that that can be kind of a standalone mixed use development so downtown is unique to Treasure Island and that you have what's called stacked density so you have um
Hotel residential and Commercial mixed but instead of if you have a hotel for instance and you wanted to add a restaurant that will take away some of your rooms if you were in say the zoning on the other side of Golf Boulevard but
downtown you get to have the restaurant and the hotel they get to stack so that is unique zoning to Treasure Island it's the highest density and intensity um I think we someone just alluded to the fact that they tried to do the same thing with gators before it did not pass
but we are in a different um time so that may be the approach but any change to density and height I believe would require this special area planning process which is another step in getting the zoning changed I can't read my own handwriting
uh how do we jump start downtown I think it's getting some conversation started and I know Joan has been working very hard to do that and been participating in that um I think there's there's a question it's really as simple
as the question she asked what do they want to do and what's keeping them from doing it you know I really think we need some kind of clarity on that because we don't know and have we figured out if King Fish Drive is deed to us or the
county or the state or so we just met with the county last week and got some clarity so um Kingfish drive as you know was the old um was previously used as the the old bridge that went over to Madera Beach um
so it's been through many change in ownership it was a county it was deded to the county originally then the state used it when it became when it was the bridge um then the state ended up kind of receiving giving that back to the
county um but the city has maintained it all along and the county recognizes that the city owns it from the standpoint that under um in Florida law there's a particular statute where you maintain a public road for a certain period of time you're responsible for it and you have ownership in an effort to clear title
because uh the developer actually did a title search and came up with these issues and was trying to get this clarified so they can move forward um we've talked to the county and the county has written it up and is going to just put um go ahead and record
a deed and they've just sent that to me um that will make it clear in the of title that Treasure Island does own that roadway as well as the park and um and that should clear that up for the developer and then it would be that road would not only be maintained by Treasure
Island but also controlled as far as um where it is and the the size the right away all of that so it should make it so that um the developer you know will have comfort now knowing that and there's less uncertainty because if there's one
thing developers don't like is uncertainty because that's risk thank you MH that's all I got thank you thank you all right hello everyone mayor and Commissioners I'm Brett I'm the network
Security administrator I'll make this brief um first thing for us is the public safety infrastructure rure it's about the new public safety building and it's a hardened data center um what we would do is we would plan to move our main data center that's in City Hall um
to the new building and then we would use the current one as our backup uh State cyber security Grant renews in June this fiscal that's their fiscal year um we've asked for more services we have some and we're just going to hopefully continue with that
our security policy needs a refresh this year was last update in 2019 so I'll be directly working on that uh Microsoft has retired Server 2008 R2 uh 2012 and is about to retire 2016 so that is a a
regular update um so it's a normal process something that we'll be implementing and the fiber connection from uh here to the community center has been reestablished so that's all good it's running at 10 gigabit and we will be introducing the same thing over from
here to the master Pump Station so if you have any questions none over my head best report all night and uh for the new Commissioners you have your new devices in front of you I've already got
them set up so just stay a minute once we leave and I'll get you logged in everything that's awesome you all got uh iPhones and iPads so you're already logged in just when the meeting ends stay here I'll come out and we'll get them set up thank you thank
you I was wondering who that was I just assumed it was yours all this time oh Apple come oh Finance there we are hi um I'll make this really quick uh we are in the middle of our FY 25 audit 24 audit I
should say year end um it's being done by um car Rigs and Ingram a CPA firm in Tampa and that firm was selected by the commission uh back in 21 and that contract runs through the fy2 audit
cycle um there'll be a few uh people from uh The Firm over here next week so if I'm really grumpy you'll know why um and uh we should be finishing that audit up uh by the end of April and that
produces what's known as the AA the annual comprehensive financial report um hermit reimbursement solution when it was agreed by the commission to reimburse the uh building permits from
uh the storms I told you that it would take weeks multiple weeks to get it done and it's taking multiple weeks to get it done um we got in contact with Tyler
techn technology which is the owner of the platform both the accounting and intergov which is the process that brings the uh uh the money through um there's a lot of software and Hardware interactions that they're sorting
through they've got a lot of uh uh transactions we've sent up to them but refer to the audit we have to make sure that this is 100% or we P we fail the a it and then
we're in not good shape uh FEMA something a little bit uh a little bit brighter uh we you approve the $480,000 uh tonight and in two weeks you will be hearing the first reading for
another 1.9 so is that million Mike million yeah okay thanks hell yeah hell that's awesome and and so I I just want to give a shout out to Jessica because she's worked her ass
off with the insurance company she's been riding them hard and working every angle of it so she deserves like 90% of the credit as does everybody else back there I'm just reporting the numbers I
know where the bank accounts is and it's not yours so we on the up and up uh parking Revenue um the uh oh by the way and FEMA we've got uh back on the 6th of January we submitted uh uh damage claims
on debris for about a million four uh there's a giant snake like process that FEMA goes through but of all the claims that were made in Florida we were number 34 and they do that first in first out
so so we are well ahead of the pack and just last week we put in we reup it for another 700,000 so we've uh we're we keep pushing the pipeline pushing it hard um parking Revenue uh as you know
the parking lots were wiped by the storms uh we began charging for parking in February we went into like this pay per click and the whole mobile app thing um so we're charging in February and for
the month we we pulled in about $60,000 in uh parking Revenue uh for the month of February still working a few Kings out uh but in additionally we parking enforcement picked up 4,800 so
we're we're getting back to normal and then lastly uh we are getting ready to be kicking off the budget I'm in the process of building a budget calendar now but roughly speaking we'll be
putting a proposed budget in front of you around the middle of July somewhere in that in that time frame but there's a lot of work that's going to have to be done on the front end to get it 100%
correct for not only the city but for the staff so that's it any questions you will have a return return with me in the barrel in a couple weeks so okay not really a question uh but
really this is more for probably the the commission to take a look at um parking revenues I mean that's uh our largest outside of uh outside of what we get for property tax it's our our largest uh Revenue Source big one yeah and uh we
have two different prices right now $4 and5 and I don't want to debate it tonight but I I would just like everybody to be thinking about if we move to $5 across all the uh the city parking lots um that that would probably help us
recoup something and as as everybody knows you if you're a resident you got a $ five permit or if you have two cars you $10 five each right right so you know it's not going to impact uh our our
residents yeah um but it does basically help us fill the void sure I'll put it together uh this week and get it out to you I got something what about Dynamic pricing where Fourth of July we up it
you know I don't know how high we go uh but then December 6th which is a Tuesday it's regular pricing right so say The Ovations you know I I put this idea out here a long time ago we do Treasure
Island uh the City Hall Parking as VIP we sell 4day pass for a th000 bucks and there are people with really nice cars that love to pay that so um in andout privileges too so I mean stuff like that Dynamic pricing for busier times of the
year you know commissioner that's something that we want to look at previously the the last Finance director Mike Munger was in charge of parking so we're working toward hiring that Finance director and the deputy director with them taking the Helm of parking and taking a look at Dynamic pricing so
we're just trying to get the people in place so we can Institute that thank you thanks Mike and we save the worst for last so just to give the commission an update just a couple of the items and
you've probably heard a few things on these already we are I'm still looking to continue the focus on recovery and permits you know we still need to work to get the people back into their homes and as Katherine mentioned you know we have different permits coming in now it's not so much for getting people back into the homes but you're starting to
see the more complicated permits for rebuilding people want to elevate or totally demolish so those are a little bit more intricate and will'll take a little bit more time but we need to keep an eye on that and especially from the code side because we do have the inspections that need to be done and then we do have a number of properties
that we're tracking that have not responded we know they've been damaged but they haven't come in for a permit so we have to start being Progressive and going out to those uh property owners and finding specifically what are they looking to do because we need to account
for them moving to the uh rebuild Treasure Island working group I started this group and we've been meeting since about the middle of February as alluded to by a couple of other folks there's a lot of money that is out there on the table there's $813 million from pelis
County and there cdbg excuse me cdbg disaster recovery program there's a hazard mitigation Grant um which is a program for $400 million FEMA Public Assistance doesn't have dedicated money amounts that are in it but that's where
we're primarily looking to take care of the infrastructure that we had damaged or destroyed during um from the storms and you did hear from director Goodrich that uh she and commissioner um Dicky Dicky that's right sorry I'm getting
tired commissioner dicki that they were able to put in $25 million of requests we our group is following a model that was used from Lee County and a little bit of P um Panama City and so we're taking a look at what they did in their best practices and it's the community
volunteers that have gotten on board that are really doing the Lion Share of the work they're coming up with the ideas they're looking to put some structure and some some ways ahead that we can best posture the city to get as much money as possible third thing I've got going on is onboarding the city
clerk and the new Commissioners that's kind of self-explanatory and it's great that um we do have a new city clerk that's on board now mentioned before that meeting with the St Petersburg leadership on the municipal parking lot down the street the Florida legislative session began on March 4th it's going to
last for 60 days initial indications are that property tax reform emergency response and sovereign immunity are strong policy areas that were going to dominate the debate our lobbyists have met with our house and our Senate leaders um for our Public Safety
requests we did put in a request through both of uh those houses for $6 million from the state for our Public Safety facility and we should hear about respective budgets about week four of the session lastly what um Mike just covered
the financial state of the city and the FY 26 Budget on the 1st of April you will get a finance 101 briefing from Mike having to do with the nuances of government accounting versus private accounting and we will also include information on a property tax storm
impact update you know a scenario that if we did have an impact of uh you know 8 to 10% and a negative of what it would look like on our budget and also we'll be getting information from our bond Council related to the use of a reimbursement resolution Chief Barkley did touch on
lessons learned we've been collecting Lessons Learned From the staff for probably about the last month and a half maybe two months so we are taking a look on what we need to do we're going to be meeting starting next Monday we were supposed to start actually yesterday but Chief bars is away and he's leading this
effort for Lessons Learned and collecting that what we're doing is a department by Department where did we do right where can we improve and how do we take the best practices from other other communities or other departments and I'll mention this from the police department where they knew to reach out
to other community police agencies and to get some assistance early on how do we Implement those same things within the Departments that we have that didn't do that that this way we're better prepared next time we're also going to look to include the community input because in May we're going to have a
hurricane Forum that we put on on an annual basis and we will be capturing some Community input on what they thought about the hurricane response and where we can improve you know from a in particular communication standpoint I think if we were able to tell um from
our Pio out to the community that we are going to primarily use Facebook as a way to communicate with the with the community for Disaster Response or pointing people to one location to get their information and that's what we need to do is to give the community um where to look for the information and
what to expect and how to expect it so those are the the five or six things that I've got going on depending your questions I've got a couple of uh not necessarily questions but points that I'd like to add to that when you talked about rebuilding uh rebuild Treasure
Island that task force we were looking at uh the city of santel and following hurricane Ian in the last several years they've gotten 130 they're about our same size in terms of the population the size of their budget their revenues very
similar to our size but uh and following hurricane Ian they've gotten about $133 million in in Grants from from FEMA from all different sources I mean it's like 20 different sources that they've got it from it's pretty impressive uh but it
looks when you look at it it's it's overwhelming almost it's a it's going to be a full-time job for someone here and it's uh uh with all the work that Joan is doing it's not it's it's something I think we need we as a commission uh supporting city manager need to start
talking about do we hire somebody or contract with somebody to to make sure that we go after every single penny that's out there because there's a lot of money uh out there to help communities rebuild and uh you know I don't know that we can get 133 million
but if we can get anywhere close to that that would make a big deal on how quickly we we can recover here that was one thing I was going to mention the other thing is uh regarding uh the code enforcement you talked about we're now looking going out and looking at
actively looking at homes that we knew they had damage but there's been no permit request uh I have gotten a couple of complaints about the our approach on that uh of the uh code enforcers wanting to look into people's or looking into
people's windows and uh even asking neighbors if they would let them in the door so we probably ought to take a look at at uh or open the door for them not necessarily go in the house but open the door so they could take pictures of of the forye area and stuff like that but
it's uh uh we we just need to make sure we're using the best approach for that and I I'll get with you later and give you the addresses on those please thank you commissioner all right any other questions any public
comment please I know I'm not the only one that thinks it's crazy that it's going to take until October to get somebody actually hired to do the walkovers I feel like that's something that we can start and do that's more
than a year since Helen came in and ruined so much of Treasure Island I really feel like it there needs to be some other options besides what was just given October 2025 if that's when it's awarded and if they start right away
that it's so far away if there are other options do we need the walkovers we have no sand dunes anymore at least at 123 there isn't a sand dune do we put a Mobility mat rip it out put a Mobility mat I mean
honestly right now the town homes that are aligned where the cross where the walkover is they have planted plants and grass and put up signs no trespassing because everyone is walking through the
end of their property to get to the beach and that's happening at all of these walkovers so if it's going to take that long they're going to have to keep putting up with trespassers walking in their backyards to get to the property and there's going to be continued sea
and sandune erosion from the foot traffic so can we just pull them and put Mobility mats down so that our res can get out to the beach I mean it's been a year since we've been able to
enjoy our beaches to be able to walk from our homes and go and enjoy our beaches most of us aren't on the beach side so I really think that if there's a lot of talking but there's not a lot of working I'm a worker I get things done
and just I think we can do better it's a lot of red tape you know know we we we talk a lot but we really need to put stuff into play get it done it's been a long time we can do this it is
possible Mike uh do you have any thoughts on on this uh you know with the cross the dunes crossovers that uh is there temporary things that we could do without building uh anything back and
I really don't know I don't know what you can do she was talking about one of the mobility uh yeah I U Kathy how much were those over those were like
what but they're not protecting the dunes that much I mean we're talking I mean I was basically just going to put in uh Dune walkovers with so that the dunes could build back up under them but no I don't have any quick
solution can I find somebody that will contract to do so there are a couple of things um in place so first of all um I think Kathy can speak to the mobility matap but I know I believe the existing Mobility matap that the city has um was something
that um paid for it was donated yes that that was paid for by someone else and um the only thing that when you're traversing the dunes assuming that there are Dunes that still exist is that there are regulations or state regulations with regard to protecting dunes and what and
how you can actually Traverse those so I believe that with the Dune walkovers those are acceptable to DP who regulates under 161 and dune protection um there's also a new Dune protection I think ordinance with regard to um pelis County so we could look at whether or not
there's something other than a dune walkover that could be considered I just don't know at this time without knowing what that option is whether or not there would be um additional permitting or at least an administrative approval by
FD um for that and then the second um item well it flew out of my head it's late oh the second item I wanted to mention was just from a procurement standpoint if you're having to do a design the city is limited in how in how they can procure that the same thing
with construction there are certain limitations that are put forth by Statute so depending on the cost of the um of the construction it drives what the process is most of the time so th those are other considerations that are probably
factoring in not saying that we can't look at other options but just to let you know what some of the time constraints are I mean I think the issue too is it's not just residents there's businesses over there that hurts if they can't people can't get over to the beach easily but I remember the mobib matat
cting like $50,000 around there and obviously there's no maintenance on the walkovers that I'm aware of West uh is there a way to expedite this by looking at it as a repair rather than a getting new design and uh having to
contract plans and all that stuff is that an option if we look at it as a repair then we're just hiring a Contracting someone to come out and repair it rather than design a whole new walkover I think the biggest uh problem
is the turtles correct and we're going into Turtle season I can answer to the Moby mat Mike walkovers um the mobat the first one was donated by HCI we just replaced it they
have an average life about 5 years at least golf Front Park does because of the heavy use they Fray um and they start becoming dangerous um so we just replaced it it was a little over $20,000 to replace that section you do have to stay so far away a certain
distance from the water um because of turtles and all that so the D permit does limit you as to how far it can be to the water um but it can definitely get you from the parking lot to the beach and if it's something I can look into cost and I can discuss with d to
see you know what would be needed but I think that'd be great I can look at that if we want to identify certain um Beach areas Beach accesses as to where you want me to look then I can get those pricing for you and they have some
other things too that are not so much Mobility mats that we've looked at for like events that are almost like a a temporary plastic snap together thing but I can look at different options Brandy could you provide us you can provide me with it or directly to Kathy
on where the the walkovers would be abolutely okay all right anyone else if not we are adjourned