testing. Okay, there we go. Um, so I'd like to call to order uh the special uh session and uh it is April 22nd, 2025.
And could we all please stand for the American Legion? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all. All right, let's uh let's move on. Let's uh have a review of the agenda and workshop objectives. Okay. Hi, I'm Pam Bran Casio. I'm a senior adviser with ICMA and I work under the arm of Florida League of Cities here in Florida. I
coordinate a national program of retired city and county managers. There's about 130 of us over 31 states. Uh we just added Oklahoma is our 31st. For me, I'm a Tampa native. Um that includes high school, college, undergrad, and graduate
degrees from USF. I have had a town home in Treasure Island over the years, two of them over the years, 12 years in total. And I retired here in 2020 and then I moved off in 2023. Um, your city attorney might tell you I moved off so I couldn't be
reappointed to planning and zoning. I had just served on your planning and zoning board for three years and it was very good experience. She did really well advising all of us. Um, for me there's a little bit of survivor guilt not being here with the
hurricane. So when I got the opportunity to come in and meet with all of you and take you through a little bit of goal setting on your budgets for FY2526 and beyond, it seemed like a good opportunity to be able to give back to Treasure
Island. Today is really about reaching consensus on your top goals as a commission. you have had everything thrown at you. Um, three of you are brand new coming in in March and I think Commissioner Dicki has the term um, in
terms of senior commissioner uh, with a year under his belt and then Mayor John would have been two two and a half four years now. All right. He doesn't like to admit it but four years
now. what we're starting today. Um, usually you would do in January every year. You're behind. New commission, two hurricanes, post hurricane recovery. You're behind. Staff is trying to catch
up. I've looked at your last two or three workshops and agendas and numerous huge issues on top of your post hurricane recovery actions. What would normally happen in January and February, your city manager and the
staff would come in with an exercise like this. Often it's an outside consultant. Um I'm not an outside consultant. I'm just a volunteer basically. I live over in cross road so I'm just off the bridge at this point. But what we need from you today is some
direction to your city manager and staff in terms of what then will flow into your budget. For I'm going to call you newbies. I hope that's not insulting in any way. Let me know if it is. But for the newbies, it's a cycle. Um it's I saw
Lion King in Tampa a couple of weeks ago. It's sort of like Lion King. It's just a cycle of life in terms of local government and budgets. So we get the direction from you as staff and the CM basically and then April through June the city manager and the staff are preparing that budget based on the
direction that the commission gave the city manager in terms of what you want to see included in it. During that time frame as well, uh you will have independent auditors who have already been here and have already gathered the information from this past fiscal year
and they'll come in and report that audit findings to you. So you will have your reserve totals, your um funds that are available, your funds that are allocated, any interlocal governmental loans that you have between funds. All
of that will be presented to you basically in the spring. And come July, the city manager will give you a budget document. Often it says you're running out the door um to take a summer break. And then come August, you're going to have to set basically a tenative mill, which then as
homeowners and business owners, you probably know when a trim notice is. And that literally is that tenative millillage that the commission has said back in August again that you're going to have public hearings on in September.
And there's two public hearings. Um the commission just remember it's very difficult to raise a millage. U your city attorney could probably spend about 30 minutes explaining to you the process involved in that and it's very complex but you can always decrease the
millillage that you have set back in August. The uh trim notices includes the dates and the times of the two public hearings. And then if you've got anybody actually reading the trim notice, uh they'll come in and come to your public hearing and let you know what they like or don't like about your budget. And
then guess what? Come October one, that circle of life starts all over again when the new fiscal year starts. Why that is more interesting this year, and I see it as a challenge, but it's also an opportunity is we already know that our property appraiser is saying
probably minus 6% in terms of countywide. you will get a tenative figure from him maybe June um which beaches may be lower we don't know I know your staff was recently down in Santael and I think
they were minus 12% the year after the storm in terms of their assessed evaluations and that's what we're really talking about that assessed evaluation and then again for new folks to local government everything that's coed by
December 31st of this calendar year. That's the base that you will then have for when is FY26 27. So again, that cycle of life um which is truly life for local government
that could be a bigger decrease um depending on how many people have filed at that point uh for adjustments to their property values. By that time, the property appraiser would have been out. His staff would have looked again um once occurring in your individual
cities. So, you have probably two years where you're going to see decreases in assessed evaluation, which means when you come to setting that millillage, you're going to be looking for reductions. Um you will have options of maintaining a millillage or you'll have
options of going to roll back, which is going to be very interesting. uh your this city attorney will not be here to explain to you what happens when roll back is roll up which I have gone through so many recessions real estate recessions in Florida over my 40 years
as city and county manager my commission has actually adopted um roll back when it's a roll out. So that's one of those very interesting commission discussions that you could have possibly come September. So for you in terms of Treasure Island, you've got, and this is
just from my perspective, um we used to come and race the Morgan Riata and sit in the old Treasure Island Yacht Club and sit in the pool and talk about how great it would be to live on Treasure Island. I bought my first unit here in 2004, but it was the 90s when we were
sitting in the old pool at the old yach club thinking about how great it would be to live on Treasure Island. It's a long stable history. I I ratted off the last five city managers, all who I've known pretty well. Um Chuck being the exception. He
came from out of state, uh which is where we get a lot of our managers in Florida. They all want to be in Florida. But it's a legacy among the beach towns. I love what Madiraa Beach has done on taking their title as Mad Beach and making it a promotion. Believe me, that
title did not start out as a tourist promotion. They were truly insane. In Rock's Beach had their moment of insanity. St. Pete Beach has had their moment of insanity. More than once there were discussions of do you think we could do something about the passive
grillil bridge so those folks just stay down in St. Pete Beach? Is that possible? Um but it's so about getting back to that stability dealing with those two hurricanes and it's about the commission
becoming a cohesive group. I would never ever expect to have a commission agree 5's are rare particularly in beach towns. Everyone has a very strong opinion with regards to where they want their city to go
based on their backgrounds. Now when I met with all of you I just want to share a little bit. Uh none of it sunshine by the way I will say but mayor who I've known for the last five years through Rotary Rotarian proud proud dad
grandfather workout junkie former college football player I don't think he's probably changed too much since he was playing college ball married his his his high school high school or college sweetheart your wife high school sweetheart right um he will pull out
grand grand I call I call mine my grands. He'll pull out pictures any time that you would like to see any of his grandchildren. Also 30 years plus in terms of cable industry. If you don't know that about John, he spent a lot of time working with local governments uh particularly over in the Valuchia County
area at the end of his career. before becoming mayor, and a lot of you may not know this, particularly if you're new to town, he was very often the one of the four and one votes on a number of issues
when he was on as a city commissioner. Um, so he was always that one that they Yeah, they would go, "Oh gosh, that John, you know, he did it again." Um, it's tougher being mayor and he'll probably share that with you today. Do you vote last? You do, right? So you
kind of get to lay on the land before you vote. Yeah. But it's tough. He really can't, you know, it's tough sometimes as mayor to be that one in terms of a 4-1 operation. So for me, when I've always asked my commission is to disagree. Um it would be so boring if
you all felt the same way about everything, but do it where you're not disagreeable. And a lot of that's growing pains. You've had four meetings maybe. I mean, I found minutes from I think it was four. Um, you know, you just came on again mid-March. You
haven't had a lot of time to get to know each other. And I just want to put a plug in for Florida League of Cities. Um, they don't pay us. We're all volunteers, but they do a terrific orientation program for commissioners coming on and there are various levels
of certifications. It's a big deal and it's a big honor to go through that program and they have entire days devoted to budgets and finance, entire days devoted to zoning and land use and it's all experts in the field that come in basically and review that. And it's
also a great way to get to know we have 400 cities plus there are people going through exactly what you're going through right now in Treasure Island that you get to know and can kind of connect with and my commissioners always did that um kind of um one of my
commissioners really liked St. Augustine and Judy connected up with their vice mayor she was vice mayor and as a result we spent a lot of time it was about 15 milesi from my last city going up to St. Augustine and checking out their programs, but because she met the vice
mayor at the Florida League of Cities orientation. So, I would totally encourage that for all of you and go to the state conferences. They're not that expensive. They're usually held over in Orlando. I think they go back and forth between Orlando and Hollywood um every
other year, but there's great speakers, great information. Legislators are always there. Usually governor, sometimes you even get a senator. Uh but you learn a lot from our LIA cities in terms of how to move forward as a commissioner and how to build that
consensus. Vice mayor, she carries your history and is it okay if I call you commissioner art I will just that last name it's like Casio. I I don't want to even attempt it. Um she carries the residential treasure island history and
the business history as well. She grew up here. Um, and that's a rarity now on your commission. And she shares out commissioner art in terms of his family and their business. So you've got the hoteler side here and then you've got residential side and private business
through her. But look to look to her sometimes in terms of that history because it's going to be very important as you move forward with some of your major initiatives and goals over the next few years. Um, and I also like that she kind of sees opportunities from
crisises, too. You know, she does because she's been here before. Trust me, the real estate crash, uh, if we went back and looked, was probably pretty hard on Treasure Island as well. Um, 2007208, my city, which is with seven
miles of Atlantic Beach is about 28,000 people. We lost between 30 and 40% of our assessed evaluation over a two-year period. and we had to make major reductions and it was not easy. Um, Commissioner Art mentioned before, he's
got the family legacy. Everything that has happened on the beach, he knows he's been part of it. And I didn't know that connection until you told me in terms of that history, in terms of Treasure Island, but he's been ups and downs in terms of recession, COVID, red
tide. It's probably not anything you haven't tackled. All I forgot about that. I was on the East Coast by then. I forgot about that. And Commissioner Dicki, retired executive. This was supposed to be fun. He did not ask for two hurricanes and three new
commissioners probably either, tell you the truth. He didn't say that, but uh but it's it's tough when you're getting used. You've had one commission for one year and then boom, you've got a new commission. um retired executive though obviously very experienced you know and
that's when I would look for him for that business experience and then Commissioner Clark when you told me the story about having to remove the tree to be able to provide access on your street if you didn't know he was an activist that would tell you that he's an activist so he's got that resident's
heart that is literally going to be looking out for Isa Palms is Capri Paradise Island Sunset Beach even though it may not be your district you you know, because he's had to literally go out there and remove trees out of public rightways after a hurricane. So, you
could tell I was I was pretty impressed after meeting with all five of you. I didn't know what to expect. Um, I had enough damage, wind damage on the second hurricane that I I kept an eye on what was happening out here, but I don't regularly, having been a retired manager
now for five years, I don't watch city commission meetings for fun. It's not something I do. I don't I don't tune up those on YouTube. It's just not what I do. But when I do know that any long-term instability presented by a city commission is going to be very
difficult to retain employees and that doesn't even take into consideration what all of your employees are dealing with right now in terms of burnout. And I know they're there in terms of hurricane recovery. I can't even tell you how many hurricanes I dealt with. I was always coastal, always county,
always cities in terms of Florida. So I know where your employees are right now in terms of burnout. But each of you had very solid and very positive ideas for your city when I met with you. I'm not going to share those today because we're asking you to share all of those.
Today's agenda, you're off the dis. You get to see each other. And I love the setup. I was smiling though because we renovated I've renovated more than one city hall. And we used to call this the Italian wedding hall because we had to
live like this for about a year the last renovation we did at city hall and we always called it the Italian wedding hall. Now mind our staff would have great food set in the back so we didn't complain too much about that. But I think for you all, it's not I know it's
important, but at some point you've got to agree to move forward with the projects that you're going to identify as your priorities. There's no one left in terms of the past pretty much. Um they're either gone out the door. I
think Kathy probably and her Kathy, are you in drop at this point? You know, no, she she's another one that holds the history. Um, you know, chiefs have been in the last last 10 probably terms of your coming in five, right? Hurricane
experience though, as I recall, Naples. Yep. On that way. Um, so for you all, if you've got this, you could see it. I've had people say, and not in the city, by the way, well, the beaches are just broken. Well, you're not broken. I mean,
what you have though are some incredible challenges that you've got to see the opportunity in and then you've got to decide as a commission how you're going to move forward. But you recover and you move forward. It is not unusual the list
that um Chuck and his staff had prepared. I I think you might have tapped you're probably near 50. Um my last job was starting in 2009. They had a list like this of about a hundred and you know we just kept bringing it back.
Um Commissioner Dicki had mentioned the carryover list. Yeah, there's a carryover list out there and there's a five-year adopted CIP used to be mandatory in terms of your comprehensive plan. So you've got all of this projects
floating and you're just going to have to start picking them off. And what I've talked to Chuck about and I'll skip to the end for a second in terms of next steps. um the items that you identified today, then your city manager would bring back. I used to call it a decision
tree. Um you know, if you pick A, then B and C is going to happen. Well, if you pick B, C and D is going to happen. And then he would give you time frames in terms of when that would happen and you're able to hold Chuck and his staff accountable ultimately if that doesn't
happen. I don't I don't think it's fair right now to hold bunch of any of you accountable. uh from new commissioners to staff because of what you've been dealing with quite frankly the last six months on terms of hurricane recovery. Uh you went through on the permitting
what every other beach town went through. I will tell you that most of my friends have stopped yelling about you. They um they are either back in or they are picking out kitchen cabinets or they're picking out flooring and they're meeting with their contractors. They're
making the big decision. Few of them have decided to raise their homes. A few of them unfortunately are going to leave the island. We seem to be getting a little influx um I think um over our way. We walk in Wat Fuller Park now every day. I still miss the beach, but we do seem to be getting a little influx
of Treasure Island folks. So, what you've all got to really talk about today then is how are we going to move forward? How are we going to put the past in the past knowing that we still have these major projects that we've got to make decisions
on? And then how do we move our recovery faster in terms of our economic recovery? Because Commissioner Art will tell you what will happen um to our beaches if we just let the
um fencing and the deserted buildings stay as they are. So things will need to change. There's no doubt about that in terms of how you approach Treasure Island and how you move forward in terms of a city. I think the other problem that I see um so many folks have had to
temporarily move away. Um you've lost a good part of this place would have been packed in past years. I went to a lot of all day Saturday strategic planning sessions. I went to a lot of Tuesday nights, Thursday nights. Um and believe
me, there was usually a crowd. It's going to take a while to get their attention again and to get them involved. And some of our more traditional ways of doing that, like planning charettes or workshops, I don't know that that's going to work right
now. So, you all are going to have to decide. Um, I worked with I think Jason had come on before I came off of P&Z and you do have a good public information um, area and I think you're going to come up with new and innovative ways basically to move your your citizens and
get them more involved um because they're out there. They're just off island right now or they're just struggling with another contractor issue or they're standing. There weren't long lines. I will say that I've come through the second floor about four times in the last week. The long lines at least seem to be gone. But with that said, that's
what we're trying to do today. So, as we go through the agenda, we're gonna Chuck's gonna He said he can be done in 10 minutes. Mayor will probably hold him to that. Um, but I've got a little icebreaker for you, and I'm not going to claim credit for this. This was actually from an intern in Pineellis County, and
we just thought it was the best one we had ever heard when I did a similar session with the county commission back in February. And Mr. Art, can I ask you to kick it off? We want to know what was the first real concert that you attended, who was
the artist or the band, where was it located, and give us just a brief sketch of how old you were and what you would have been like when you attended that concert. Um, are you talking about a concert on
Treasure Island Beach or in life? I mean, like one that you really paid for. Oh, uh, you two. I was in high school and it was pretty awesome. Yeah. Frank Frankie Valley in the Four
Seasons uh in Fort Lauderdale. Uh I was probably 21. It was my first concert I ever went to. Uh three of the commissioners I don't think were were alive at that time, but but anyway, and Frankie Valley is still out. uh out there and kicking as well. But but yeah,
but anyway, it's he's it was a great concert. Always remember and seen him three or four times since. first concert. Um, okay. I'll say I think it was I think I went to Van Halen was my first conference a concert and I was in high
school as well. Oh, I think this one. Yes, it's on. I remember it well. It was my 21st birthday present and nobody's going to believe who it was. It was Andrea Bochelli and Sarah Mclofflin and it was at um I don't even remember what it was
called then but the hockey where they play hockey now but it was unbelievable. Never forget that. Um mine would be George Strait the King um Topeka Kansas I think uh during
college. Yeah, mine would be Kenny Rogers and um I was 16 years old and uh my wife and I both attended and uh we we enjoyed it. It was up in a place called Marville, Indiana, which is up in
northwest Indiana by Gary, Indiana, the steel mills. And um you didn't find a lot of country and western folks up there at the time, but uh I was one of them. Let's see. That would have to be Bruce Springsteen and the East Street Band. I
saw him in East Rutherford, New Jersey at the Melands and I think I was 14 years old. I saw him last year. Mine was actually Grand and that was the old
stadium. And with that, I need you guys. I need you to start getting to know each other. You know, obviously you cannot discuss city business off the dis. We all know that. And you can't use any conduits in the community to discuss city business between each other either.
And I'm sure Jennifer has filled you in on all that with the orientation, but you need to get to know each other. Nothing wrong with having a breakfast at Foxy's. Everyone in town will know you're having a breakfast at Foxies. It's Treasure Island. Um, everybody will know if you stop to speak to Commissioner Dicki as he's walking. Do
you have a dog? He's Well, if he's walking down the street, they'll know it. But I need you to start getting to know each other because you you've been tossed into this and I'm going to say arena for lack of a better term um to make these major decisions. You don't
really know that much about each other and what you're bringing to the table because it's those values and those shared values ultimately that built the trust and built the vision in terms of your city.
And believe me, I'm not a polyanda. I have never had a 50 commission. I wouldn't even know what that was like over the 40 years. I worked in Broward County. It was the worst commission I ever had. And there were nine of them um at one point in my career.
And so I'm not a poly, but what's most important is the bar league of cities. Again, going to the annual conferences, going to the workshops, going to the regional breakfastes. here. It's the um and I get John can help me. The um
you've got the um local League of Cities, Sun Coast, Sun Coast League of Cities. Do they still do dinner and still do meetings and training sessions? Go to those. Sit at the same table. You can pretend like you like each other for a while. I always used to tell my commission that. And then in the long
run, you do start to like each other. Um because you're the only ones, let me tell you, you only have the five of you in terms of these decisions that you're making. And I know enough having lived in Treasure Island and having always worked 40 years in coastal
communities, everybody has an opinion of what you should be doing and they're happy to tell you that opinion, but they're not sitting up there on the dis when you have to make that decision and when you have to then adopt the budget to support that decision.
So, you've got to learn to get just that little bit of relaxation in terms of what you're doing. Sometimes it may be as simple as just the mayor calling for a break. If it gets a little heated, it's call for a break. I used to have a chairman um he was notorious for that. He would just calling for a break and
you I'd be like right in the middle of a sentence. Oh, okay. But he would just need to calm down a little bit. Now, I don't know that that's John's personality. I wouldn't think it would be. Um, but sometimes it does help. So that's kind of my after today when staff
brings you back that work plan and those dates that they have to meet in terms of milestone dates and you get into those heated discussions again on why aren't we meeting that? Well, why are we going left instead of right? Just remember to get to know each other a little bit off the dis. I learned more about the five
of you just sitting down quietly with you for an hour. um indiv individually I should add that city attorney individually um then probably you've learned about each other in going through the last almost two months of meetings. So with that Chuck says he
only needs 10 minutes which there you go. Thank you Pam. A little bit tough to follow up there but you know I'll give it a shot. On the agenda, what we have is an update on the uh commission goals. And actually, that should read an update
on the 2024 2025 commission projects. And what that was was last year the previous commission had brought in myself when I got hired on as a city manager with basically a
very strong edict of being able to accomplish some of the items that had been undertaken in the previous years. So what I did was I talked to staff and I asked them to come up and to compile a list of the projects that they were involved in you know whether in a singular department or whether it was
multi- departments working together and to come up with these initiatives or projects that they were tasked to do. And the idea behind that was because as I looked across the landscape within the city that we were probably just barely
ankle deep in almost 100 different projects or endeavors going on. You know there's a lot that goes into a project and and I'm not going to get into that piece but what I needed to do was to talk to the commission and say you want to get things finished but we need clear direction and we want to get these
things started and moved forward. So we we came up with this project work product tracker that everybody has a copy of. The previous commission took that and then they individually scored what they would consider as their top five projects. And those top five
projects were the master pump station and the public works facility, the public safety facility, the public seaw walls for replacement or repairs, the dune walkovers and the reconstruction or
repair of those walkovers. And then the last item was a compilation of smaller portions of Treasure Bay. I had input for, you know, working on the golf course out of Treasure Bay, fixing the tennis courts, uh, putting in some new
amenities out of Treasure Bay. So, what I got the commission to do was actually just to come up with a fifth project called Treasure Bay. And basically, it had to do with what are we going to do next with Treasure Bay. What's going on out there right now at Treasure Bay is we have the construction of the living
seaw wall. You know, the living seaw wall is is being constructed as we speak and we just had a an update to the commission last week. Once the living seaw wall is finished and it's on schedule right now for July of 2025, there's going to have to be a decision
for from the commission or a number of discussions with the decision from the commission is what are our next steps for Treasure Bay. So those five items were provided from the previous commission as being the priorities and those were the goals that they came up
with. No, that didn't mean that we were going to stop working other items. You know, there's always things that go on whether it's a pavement management system working, you know, water sewer initiatives, whether you're doing different traffic enforcement, you know,
police, fire, park and wreck, public works, and the other departments. You know, we have an audit going on. After the audit, we're going we're going into simultaneously for a budget. So, there's there's a number of things that go on with it, the heartbeat of the city on a on a year- round basis. But, this is
what the last commission had come up with, what they wanted to have for their priorities. And I can tell you for the public safety building, we have a request for qualifications that was put out from our public safety folks. And with it was a public safety facility
schedule. We did receive statements of qualifications from seven engineering firms and they were open opened, excuse me, on April 10th. A public meeting will be held by the evaluation committee that is going to be reviewing the submissions that were put in from those engineering
and architectural firms. And that evaluation committee meeting will be on May 5th at 10:00 a.m. Presentations could be shortlisted if we decide that we want to hear follow-on comments from one or more of the individuals or
entities that did submit. From there, we will have the evaluation committee present their findings to the city commission. And right now, that is tenatively scheduled for May 20th. And what'll happen if the commission decides at that point we will receive permission
to begin negotiations with the selected firm and the top ranked respondent. Once the negotiations are completed and the contract is ready for approval, it comes back to the commission. This the city manager does not have the authority to approve the contract. So that has to come back to the commission and those
are good stop gap measures to make sure everything is communicated toward the commission. So that's the public safety building. The other priority is the master pump station. We had a request for qualification for design services and that is out currently and due back
to the city on May 2nd. The scoring of those qualifications will be on May 14th as we'll request to negotiate at a commission meeting will be approximately scheduled for about the the uh 20th of May. And then after that we will pres
present the design services contract at at a meet at a date to be determined after that. for the seaw wall repair and replacement. We did have a consultant for that project and that consultant was advanced engineering and design and we
are going to be contacting other consultants because we are unable to use that consultant for this project. It was design services proposals were scheduled for the 1 of April and once we finish talking to the other consultants who we think are qualified for the project, we'll be bringing back a timeline for
the commission. the dune walkovers. We did have a um a present design service proposal date that was brought to the commission April 1st. Unfortunately, we're unable to use the uh selected or the excuse me, the recommended consultant, Michael Baker. So, we are in
contact with Kimley Horn and talking to them about what the costs would be for them to do the design and engineering services for the dune walkovers. The last project that I mentioned a little bit earlier that we have, which
would be our fifth project, is going to be in a workshop on the 20th of May. And I think that's going to be the first of a few workshops and community discussions we're going to need to have because that in encompasses our Treasure Bay way ahead. You know, we currently had a golf course that is having a
living shoreline built at it. Um, we did receive significant damage from both hurricanes there, wrecking our clubhouse, maintenance sheds, and other areas on the golf course. And so, there needs to be discussion among the community with the commission on what
we're going to do next out there at Treasure Bay. Fortunately, Park and Rex has been, excuse me, Parks and Wreck has been able to work with the United States Tennis Association has received approximately $250,000 in funding to fix the clay
courts and also the fences that were wrecked during the hurricanes. So, we will definitely have those portions rebuilt and fixed so we can continue on with those services. But where what we're going to need the commission to make a decision on and have a discussion about is what are we going to do with
Treasure Bay in the future and what will that look like? The living shoreline when completed will have a walking path around the uh existing golf course where it currently is right now. We will also have a kayak launch that is available from there. But what else that we need
to have or we would like to have as a community will need to be part of that discussion. And those would be the five projects that the last commission had stated were the priority for the city. Moving over to the next item
agenda on the agenda, it's the top accomplishments to date. And what I did is I asked staff to please come up with their top three items that they would consider that were the biggest impacts between 2024 and 2025. Storm, some are storm related and
some are not storm related. And if you would just bear with me for a few minutes, I'm going to review some of those with you. Our public information officer stated during the hurricane related communications, they were able to use social media, city website, and
email very heavily because residents were requesting information. The county, local, and national media were requesting information. and we were often asked to please provide things on our social media so that they could be used in other portions of the country.
The media outlets consistently use Treasure Island's video content and communications within their coverage. There was numerous interviews in fact talking to Jason, there was more than 20 or 25 interviews between the mayor, police chief, fire chief, and public information officer.
While all this happened in the last year, our PIO office was able to grow our Facebook followers by 60% and our Instagram followers by 50%. X, or formerly known as Twitter, has also increased 50%. And the city's
email subscription service, where people can get information via email, has risen from 3,000 to over 5,000 email addresses. Over in our fire department, storm elated, they prepared for and managed response and
participated in recovery from both hurricanes. The fire department coordinated and led the effort for the evacuation of residents and city staff for the from the island for both storms. In one occasion, they used the city bus, which is a park and wreck bus, and they
had 65 passengers. and the parks department and fire rescue personnel relocated these citizens to a dropoff point in Sunset Park in St. Petersburg. The bus route was created from there and Ingenuity was able to come up with and operate it from 9:00 a.m. to 4 p.m. and
had four collection points throughout the city to help residents who couldn't bring vehicles or didn't have vehicles any longer on the island. The fire department staff also managed the emergency operations center. Chief Bars functioned as the incident commander and Deputy Chief Brennan was the emergency
manager and excuse me, excuse me, the operation section chief for both storms. And you have to remember when I say both storms is because we were hit from Helen first, then we were coming back to the island and then we had to evacuate a second time and we had to leave out of a
second time and go to an EOC operations either in South Pasadena or in downtown St. Petersburg. Under Blue Sky accomplishments, the fire department completed over 2269 hours of training in this fiscal
year. So, so far included in this is 259 hours of hands-on training with multiple fire companies and a state recognized training facility. This is in addition to the mandatory three hours of firefighter monthly EMS or paramedic
license certification training. Fire Rescue also hosted a one-day leadership seminar for aspiring new fire officers and it was attended by officers from six neighboring fire departments. Since January of 25, the public, excuse me, our public education
efforts from the fire department have reached hundreds of residents and visitors. We have handed out over 300 life jackets, 125 bicycle helmets, and assisted with over 300 car seat installations. Additionally, Fire Rescue was able to
host two safe sitter classes. And what those safe sitter classes are for individuals who want to do safe babysitting. They come to these classes and they learn basic CPR, resuscitation, and the the key items that they need to
watch out for when baby babysitting children. The city clerk's office during the storm hosted and attended five special meetings related to the storm response. They led the effort to secure city records in anticipation of the storm
hitting and the damage that it would bring. This included coordinating with the community development department and the police department. And what they did was they boxed the information up and removed it out to Stevens and Stevens prior to the office closure for Hurricane Milton. The city clerk acted
as a communications leaison and the deputy city clerk coordinated food services for staff and the hundreds of first responders that were in our EOCC's or alternate EOCC's. Non-storm related, they processed 153 records requests and 14
lean search requests. They also attended and recorded 35 meetings including board of commissioners, planning and zoning, code enforcement, the LPA, and the lift committee. Moving over to the police department. The police department would like like it
to be known and they should be very proud of this that they achieved reacredititation status. So they had a three-year examination from the accreditation commission, the Florida accreditation commission, and they were awarded reacredititation. They also
implemented a take-home car program for the first time in the agency's histories. funds from the penny for panelis was used to purchase extra vehicles and in post storm it's worthwhile for the community to know that we did not just have police
officers from treasure island here the police community and the law enforcement community have good brothers and friends and sisters across the state and we brought in those other agencies to help us while we were in recovery mode coming back from the storms and they helped to protect our citizens and they're very
proud of letting people know that in IT we were able to keep continuity of communications. They used three internet connections, cell systems, handhold radios, and they kept communications alive and active from pre-torm to recovery and
posttorm. Actually, what actually happened the day that we evacuated out from the first storm, it was a payroll date and HR needed to get the payroll done before the storm hit. They worked with putting fans and keeping doors and towels in the server room in order to
keep the servers up so that they could post payment that day. And the temperatures in the room reached up to 106 degrees, but they were able to post up on the payroll for that. Non-storm related, we were able to move into city hall. You're sitting in a five-story
building right now that was unoccupied and had no communications previously. We able to say this was a daunting task and if you look around the room now you can see that you not only have power but you have internet capability we have broadcast capability and we have
complete audio visual every officer in the public excuse me in the police department now has their own take-home laptop this project was two to three years in the work from the IT department and the IT team has evolved in meeting broadcast capabilities and
have brought it to the next level they now broadcast live on Facebook, YouTube, and on our city website. Over in the community development department, we successfully completed damage assessments and unsafe structure inspections for three
hurricanes with operations resumed by October 16th, 2024. Community development reopened for permitting on October 16th, not within the building because it wasn't ready, but underneath the building. Since then, they've processed over 3,000
permits between September 25th and April 17th. 2384 of those permits were issued during that period. And that compares to about 910 permits that are normally processed in an annual basis in that same time frame. That's about a 330%
difference. Community development also demonstrated extreme flexibility by adapting their work schedules. While they were also doing the initial damage assessments and working permitting, they were also tasked to provide county level EOCC
operations and a leazison. And we had an individual who was assigned to the county EOC. They were supposed to have two individuals, but we didn't have enough people. And the individual from down in community development was working 18our days to cover both ships. non-storm related. We have permitting
and code compliance. They shifted to an entirely paperless system. Now individuals can submit their applications online instead of having to put them in or bring them in and hand them in in person. They also ensured while they in while they started the
paperless system, they ensured record retention requirements and public records requests were streamlined and also met at the same time. Community Development also completed the comprehensive plan which included getting state approval. This is the first full update to the comprehensive
plan since 1998. Also included in this was complete, excuse me, numerous updates to the land development regulations, including eight ordinances within the terrain modification program. Lastly, in community development, they
successfully adopted the local mitigation strategy and implementation of numerous processes to develop and maintain our compliance with our community rating system in the national flood insurance program. The entire city is within a special flood hazard area
and being part of this program brings many benefits not only to our businesses but to our residents. This year we're able to stand up an office of economic development. It's a new division that was added last fall as a as we had the commission add the the
authority to hire an individual at a director level position. Since that time they've established a new concurge like service called business navigator services for local businesses. What these services include are com commercial space and land identification
assistance, commercial development project assistance, access to capital, business intelligent and market research in collaboration with community development, our economic development created and received the commission
approval for the city's special event ordinance that's currently being used by Caddies. What that did with the creation of that ordinance not only benefited a business down on Sunset Beach, but local jobs that were retained numbered at 50. So, we had 50 jobs that were retained
because of that effort. Over in finance, we complied with all federal requirements to allocate our ARPA funds by 31 December 2024. And in some way, shape or form, they move paid parking from a kiosk system to a totally internetbased
system. Over in public works, we completed a lift station number three rehab, which a rehab of a lift station is a complete undertaken where you have to take and set up a simultaneous system that keeps it operational and online through separate power while you
rehabilitate and replace all of the components with within the um forgetting the not the job board, but with the master control unit. Thank you. While that was done, they also completed $1.2 $2 million of wastewater lining projects
and they achieved commission approval and started the living shoreline project. Storm related, they managed 128,000 cubic yards of debris pickup from our two storms. They had every wastewater station back up and running
without the support of generators of bypass pumps. And they cleared all the sand from the storm drains and roads in Sunset Beach. and they were actually able to use tons of that sand and have it screened and returned to the beach. Over in HR storm related, they
had zero employee injuries during storm recovery, which is something that needs to be repeated again. We had zero employee injuries even though we were out and we had individuals out first on the island from first responders and
doing and clearing all of the streets, the roadways and everything else. We coordinated 300 volunteers for beach cleanup within a matter of days after the storm and they set up a food bank for residents displaced and affected by the hurricane.
non-storm related. They updated our 401A retirement plan at the city, allowing individuals who previously did not have the opportunity to sign up for the 401 now are given the opportunity to do so and also expanded on the options that are available. They also completed the
collective bargaining for the police department and the fire department. Those are just some of the things that were accomplished in 2024 and 2025. I do appreciate that. I found out that Chuck is a clock guy. He's gonna tell you how to build the clock rather than
what time it is. I got you guys too. It did go out, but my first thought was decision yet, but I know Chuck assume that it's
probably enough and I will tell you process and engineers um the RFQ process you can't ask for price so You literally do it based on qualifications. And I will tell you also once you make a decision on what that
project scope is going to be, then after you do your short listing, after you you commission approves that top firm, um I'm also not going to tell you another secret is the commission could do those interviews if they would like to just depending on as you move along. I didn't
say that, Jen. But um then you literally go out and then you can negotiate a price and then if the price you don't like it then you go to the second firm. So that's it does help a little bit. You're not stuck with that first firm. But that's why the scope at this point
is not this is going to sound nuts. I can't believe I'm saying this is not relevant to the price because you haven't been able to ask the price yet. Anyway, as we move forward now, and this is when I need our city clerk to come up, you do a little mimi gap analysis and mayor, normally where do you start
in terms of the commissioners and you call? Do you go by district or do you want to do that for me? Um, we're going to ask each commissioner to just identify two um opportunities and challenges right now and we're going to write that on one sheet over here and then you're not going to have to prioritize that. This is just off top of
the head. So mayor, I'm gonna let you handle how you call in terms of the districts and the commissioners when they speak. So it usually is district one district two. Can you hear me now? There we've
got it. So yes, uh it is uh just as simple as we we start with district one, go through district four, and then the mayor has the the final vote. And it does make it a little bit interesting, uh you know, because sometimes we do
have, you know, a 22 and uh and then you're sitting there knowing that uh whatever you say is what's going to happen. So um so yes, let's uh let's start with uh district one. So we are giving if you could just
clarify what this part is. This one's really about what you see as your opportunities and challenges and just just try to limit it to maybe two or three. I mean some are obvious um because I want you all to see what each of you is thinking. This is why this is important. So we're not to your top five
priorities yet. This is about what you see as the opportunities and the challenges. Okay. So um I would say my number one opportunity but also challenge is definitely uh development. It is we know that we have
to come to um a rather quick plan on um future development. We have a downtown that is non-existent. Um we have several hotel motel with fencing around them. Um, and it's been we have the old Gators
property and it's been made very clear to us that at our current restrictions um that they're not going to develop. So, we're going to sit um and at best have a flat parking lot at best. And that is one not feasible for the city.
It brings us no money and two it leaves us with a very ugly unappealing place to visit. So to me that is um definitely a challenge um finding a happy medium. Um, however, with, you know, new new laws
and things that have been put into place and bills that have been approved, um, I believe it's going to make it somewhat easier, um, to, as long as we're transparent and completely open with the public and the citizens on the potential
of what could be or we can make adjustments and hopefully work with um, development and have what we want in a beautiful city. So that would be number one. Um I guess it kind of goes into it with Treasure Bay. Um that also I look
at as a huge potential um for us of what it could be as a public um amazing place again something to draw visitors and something for the residents alike. And then the one that's proven to
be challenged and it'll be my last um would be the public safety building. Um, you know, I know there's a million different opinions on it, but in the end, uh, the reason several of us have stayed in Treasure Island our whole lives, and the reason a lot of people
moved here, um, were for, um, our police and fire and us being one of the only ones who still have our own private police department. And, you know, we don't want that to change. Um, and we have to look to the future, not just what Treasure Island is today. we have
to look at what it's going to be, you know, hopefully in the near future, um, with population, with visitors and such. And we just, I think we all need to be minded toward that, not just the small
scope of where we're at right now. um my opportunities was she said exactly what I was going to say that development is not only an opportunity but it's also a challenge um I think you know the opportunity is there in a lot of different places that she mentioned including Treasure Bay Gators downtown
everywhere else um I think the challenge is and she touched on that too we have to update a lot of our you know LDRs and our codes to make it to where it's even feasible for these folks to be able to to to to
build here. So, I think that's number one. And then to me, the biggest challenge that I see, and I'll somewhat get into my five things, but to me, there's absolutely no doubt that we need a police and fire building of some sort. We need a lift station. We got to have
that. That's absolutely. We got to have a public works building, and we have to have seaw walls that are functional. So, the biggest challenge that I see is we have to do these things yet I have seen no financing plan, capex plan, anything
that shows how we can pay for this stuff. Um, and to me that's a big challenge. Um, you know, I mean, and I'd like to see something that shows us how we can pay for these things without raising taxes or or um or taking on more
debt. So, to me, that's a big challenge. Uh so my one through five or one through three is missing economic drivers for development or redevelopment and that's all of the above.
Can you expand a little bit on the economic drivers just so you're gonna because all you're going to be looking at this a month for two months from now and somebody's going to go what what did he mean? So uh Treasure Island is in barrier island with the beach as its lifeblood. So everybody comes here for
the beach. So uh not in any particular order. uh hotels, redevelopment, motel, whether that's condo hotels or all the above. Then uh when you bring the people
here and they have a place to stay, you need uh a good place for them to visit when they're sunburned. And uh that would be a destination like uh for example, Gate uh John's Pass Village in Madera Beach is the number one tourist attraction in
Penel County. It actually I'm sorry on the G coast it actually has more tourists than Key West and that's that's a statement. So um when they have a sunburn atomic claw although very awesome is not it shouldn't be the only
place for for the attraction for uh kids and sunburn tourists to go. So, if we could uh you know redevelop downtown tastefully um with parking and attractions and uh
dining and uh storefront um you know top quality restaurants and so on. Uh then you have obviously the old Gator property. I think it's been like 17 years where there was it's been
17 years since there was something worth going to there. Oh, don't get me wrong, Krabby's on the Pass is a great restaurant and hope it hopefully it comes back. Um, and then I would say once the tourists are
here, we have uh Sandy Ovations, which is uh our number one uh event on the beach. and um other events uh that would include uh
sand, sea, and surf. So, some time ago, we had paddict, paddleore event. They had a race around the island, I think. Uh let's see. Um we have a sand event uh being set up
right now. Uh I think that's a corporate event. Um, see, we have the uh kite festival. Um, so events that incorporate sun, sand, and sea, you know, and that's an economic uh driver uh for tourism in
Treasure Island. And um want me to keep going? I just steal a great job. You're you're hired. Oh, wait. You're already here. Okay. Whoever hired her, she has excellent.
I would agree with uh what you've already heard from the previous three commissioners in terms of uh developing or uh business development and the importance of that uh as far as opportunity and challenge. I would say
um that I'm looking at the number one opportunity for us is grant acquisition. I think there are literally millions and millions of dollars out there that we need to be going after aggressively. Uh we've got a re we've got a a task force
working on it, but it's going to take all of us to all of us to get that money. Uh and and I'm excited that we're, you know, that we're going to be talking a year from now hopefully and and have have a an impressive list of uh
grant money that we've been uh uh given that can help us do a lot of what we've been talking about doing. uh and a challenge along those lines is is uh I I I want to caution all of us not to make long-term decisions based on short-term
conditions. You know, right now we for the next two years, yeah, yeah, property tax revenues are going to decline. There's no doubt about that. That's 100% guaranteed. But let's not make long-term decisions like building a public safety
facility that's that will last us 50 to 70 years based on property taxes are going to uh or property assessed values will will decline in the next uh year or two. So anyway, that that's my uh opportunities and challenge that I see
here in the short term. Boy, when you take a look, uh, we've been hit hard in the last six, seven months. Um, we're still recovering and we'll be recovering for years. But what it has done is also given us the
opportunity to reshape uh the community and and make it even more vibrant than it was beforehand. And I think that's a big part of it. And to to bring that vibrant feel in, we need to make sure
that we can uh look and feel uh what we expect a beach to be and what everybody wants. And I think that you've hit it right on the mark. Let's not do something in the short term just because, you know, that that we're uh we're in a mode that says we need to get
something done. We need to take a look at it in the long term. Um Tammy and I were uh about three four weeks ago were in Tallahassee and uh and it was the mayor's convention. So the mayor and the vice mayor both were able to attend and
it's unbelievable what uh what kind of t has taken place in a lot of cities that are in very similar modes that we are going from uh St. Augustine Beach uh down to Santael and everything else. And
we we have an unbelievable opportunity. But the one thing that that's going to hold us back and this is what we've got to try and and figure out in in the short term and for the long term is that we uh we have very limited funds coming
in. We get our ad valorum tax of course and that's what 23% of whatever the property tax is. Uh we get 23% of that money. The rest goes to schools and police, fire departments, everything else. Um so that that's that's an
opportunity that that uh we only have if if that's going to grow, it's going to be because there's more building taking place. Um and I I like to see that just like we we take a look over here at Thunderbird. uh they're going to be doing demolition and rebuilding and that
gives us an opportunity and also brings in more dollars because of the the size and and the vibrant feel of all of those type of communities. The other thing the second thing that we have for income is
parking. So we we go from advorum taxes on our our property to parking and we have a lot of opportunity to actually expand on uh the the parking revenues that that we have. Um I mentioned that
we were up in Tallahassee and uh St. Augustine Beach, their mayor uh got up and did a presentation that uh knocked everybody's socks off. uh he talked about first thing what do you need to do before you bring in additional folks
into your community and he said you find parking. So that is something I think that we can live on on in the short term and the long term and and everything can kind of grow excuse me kind of grow. The other thing is what did they have? They had basically an amphitheater and uh and
a very successful amphitheater that uh is actually driving their uh millillage down and drove it down by about two. Yeah, in the first year two and uh and they were I think they're in
year six or something right now. Um and so and we have those same opportunities. And what we have is we have a lot of land that is is available. Uh you know, the city owns some of that land and then there's also the private land that's out
there. But if we take a look at what we can do on the 108th, it it's it's unbelievable the opportunity that's there. We're right on the water. There is even if we take a look and we say, "Okay, what do we need to put over on 108?" And clearly we need to the pump
station and there's other things that we're looking at. We're still still looking at things based upon the the trash removal um and what we're going to do with the safety building and and all of that. But there is clearly two and a half to three acres right on the water
there where we could have a marina, we could have restaurants, we could have an entertainment zone, we could have a lot of different things. And that's just one. the downtown area is as I we've said as as Commissioner Art has said
that uh that you know it is it is growing back but it's not growing back quickly and it's not growing back in the same manner that we'd like to see. We'd like to see some destination restaurants. And what is a destination restaurant? It's a restaurant that
people are willing to travel to. and there's a lot of them on the beach like Salt Rock Grill and and others. Uh so we need to take those opportunities and and move forward with those opportunities. And one of the things I know that we've all been doing is that is we are
listening to the business owners. We're listening to the folks, you know, that that own the properties up at Gators, the that the folks that own 107 both on the north and south side, you know, the uh Thunderbird. Um I'm sure that uh others some of the other larger Bill
Mahar and those in in time will will do the same. So I think that uh you know we uh we have opportunity and let me add one other opportunity probably the one of the biggest opportunities that we have and that is what we have over at Treasure Bay. That's uh that's unbelievable. We uh we now are doing our
living shoreline. Uh we're going to have basically a path all the way around. Um, we have a kayak launch and we have so much opportunity to develop that that land that ranges for from anywhere from
available 8 acres to maybe 10 acres. And that that land is perfect for a lot of different things. And that's what we need to figure out is what are we actually going to do with Treasure Bay. There's been I've seen lots of drawings.
I I've seen lots of renderings and and a lot of ideas and uh and what we need to do is begin to uh embrace all of these ideas and uh and get something going. And yes, when I say something going, it doesn't mean that there's going to be anything next year. Probably not even in
two years. But, you know, once we see and and feel that uh that everything is moving in the right direction, um three to five years from now, we'll be able to to basically knock it down. I would like to elaborate a little bit
more on missing economic drivers. So take the Thunderbird for example. Um I'm not sure if many may recall. Uh Thunderbird was built in 58. Um the building to the right uh was used to call be called the Best Western. It was
built in 56. Um the previous owner, David King, um bought the Best Western, combined it to the Thunderbird. He has 106 keys. 106 keys in the 50s should not be 106 keys
in 2025. You would imagine to make it successful um you would need a little bit more than 106 keys to make it, you know, um pretty from the street or however uh
way you want to go in that direction. Uh, speaking of amphitheater, um, going back a long time, um, there used to be on the beach Sun Sand Symphony Orchestra. That obviously was a little bit different than, um, the 50th
anniversary of On the Beach with John Sakata and Don Joey Daniels. That was pretty crazy. Uh, when it came to the amount of people on the beach. Uh, but when the Suns Symphony Orchestra was on the beach, that was a laid-back chill
event where you had I mean it was a fantastic event. So maybe that belongs in the Community Center Park or uh wherever. Um, but you know, I'm not saying that maybe that belongs in Treasure Bay, although that could be uh
I could definitely get a lot of emails from that saying that. But uh um among other Texas I got from my constituents just now. Uh but anyway uh events such as those uh that you know are missing economic drivers for development and
redevelopment. So that's a lot of things we got to discuss. I want to say one thing super fast. John, I think you bring up a good point about, you know, you've seen a ton of drawings about Treasure Bay and stuff. And so I think at the next commission meeting, I'm going to bring one of those
drawings in. I'm not saying that that's what we is should do, but I think we need to start showing the public what the possibility is that could possibly be there and get people excited about, you know, what we could do here because all we keep talking about is Treasure
Bay. No one has anything to look at. So I think it's almost the same thing around 108th and stuff. I think we need to start again not saying that these are what we're exactly going to do or you know it's not decided or any of that but start generating some you know excitement about what we can do here and
I think that would be be be pretty helpful and to elaborate a little bit more on that the United States Tennis Association has provided a lot of grants for fencing and uh more is available uh through u I guess government grants via
United States Tennis Association Um and it's feasible to make that uh Treasure Bay something where um in the future talking to the tennis pro uh Phil um you know it could be tournaments you
know there's happen here on Treasure Island where you know it could be done in offseason where we fill up hotel rooms and they have tournaments uh in that location and it could be a economic driver for development. for offseason events, you can always get
tourism development dollars to promote them as well, but it's got to be more heads on beds again. Um, very good. Very good. You know, and what I couldn't say from meeting individually with you, I I was hearing a lot of what's presented here today. And you know, you've done
triage. I think that's the way you've got to think about it in terms of permitting and and at least you've got it's not great. We're police and fires right now, but at least you get something going temporarily. You know, now you got to make the big decisions and then make them. And like John said,
and this is what's going to be mo most frustrating for you guys. It's three to five years when you're building a capital project. It really is. You know, it's going to take a year just in terms of the development process and making sure you're all comfortable with it. We usually we used to bring it in at like
10% and then 50% and then okay, no surprises, commission, here it is. It's 100%. Is it okay? Can we put this out to bid? You know, um, so there's going to be a lot of those is this okay meetings before you get out to bid on some of these projects. Does anybody need a break before we move to your individual
presentations on your goals and objectives or can we just say if anybody needs to get up and get up and come back or just want to follow your usual procedure here? No, you're good. Okay. All right. Well, let's take that one
off. Let's move on. Then we're going to have each commissioner present. And if you can stay to five, that would be great in terms of your top five items. Doesn't need to be anything we've heard today. Um I think today is all about
opportunities, challenges, and opportunities and how to rise to those. So we're going to start with district one again. Oh, okay. Necessarily need to go first, but I do like to ask a Okay. I'd like to ask a question before any of us go. Uh
the master pump station has been on top of our a lot of our list for quite a while. The question I wanted to ask and I'm not sure who to ask it to other than maybe the city manager is can we proceed or should we proceed with the master pump station regardless of what we
eventually do with outsourcing uh sewer uh sewer. if if that's uh if we're going to need a new pump station, whether we continue to do it ourselves or we outsource it, uh does it does it make a difference, I guess, in the in and the
timing. There we go. That's a great question, Commissioner. I was thinking about that the other day, in fact, and trying to take a look at what I think we might want to do is keep proceeding on with what we're looking at to do with the master pump station. Um, but maybe we just have the county take a look at
what our design specs are because if the county was going to take over our system, you know, they might design to a different standard. So, I'm going to, you know, be able to talk to their public works folks through um through their administrator and just ask them to take a look at our design specs and as
we go through this exercise to see if they will take over the entire system, it would be acceptable. You know, we don't want to incur a cost later on after incurring a cost for the master pump station. And and again, I guess we we need a pump station regardless of whether we do it ourselves or outsource
it. Is that correct? Okay. Correct. All right. Having said that, then I'll I'll be glad to go first on the the the top five, and I actually got I have more than five, but but let me ask another procedural question here, Pam. Some of
the uh items on my list are are are things I'm hoping we can accomplish in fiscal year 25. Uh they're still they're on this list here. They're they're So I should I we be making a distinction between what we're planning on doing
this year and You want more items is what you're asking for. Negotiation for more items. I think that's where it's I'm just saying is it unreasonable to assume and again I think this might be directed to the city manager that some of these we can do is mark shortterm for anything that you would like to get
accomplished this year. Um this year you've got six months left. So when you say this year you mean this fiscal year? Yes. At least you know getting these things started and stuff. We'll have the clerk kind of mark it short term and then a lot the city manager will bring
all of this back to you. Um, and all of that will have dates and milestone items that have to happen. Um, but we'll go ahead and if you want something to happen this fiscal year when she writes it down, we'll go ahead
and import. Um, that would be FY25. Okay. Yeah. I think that we on I I think that we are all looking at the top five because those are the most expensive and they are also the ones that are very much needed. But that shouldn't be to
say that we're not going to look at all of this. And a good example uh is that uh for parks and recreation, a new bus, we got a bus that's over 25 years old. It breaks down. It it's all sorts of problems. But we need a bus. Especially
when we saw the situation that we had uh during the hurricane, we were taking bus runs back and forth and back and forth. And as well, it's always nice to see the kids climbing on to a nice safe bus that's not going to break down when they're doing the summer camp. Uh so
something like the bus, you know, and it it's $150,000. And that's a well that's expensive for a bus, I would think, but uh I've looked at all the quotes and and that that isn't expensive. It's what's needed. But there's other things that we have. We have things that we need to
keep on pace doing the whether it be regular maintenance and not just pushing maintenance to the side or even some innovative new, you know, right now we're looking at this pickle ball and maybe that the pickle ball courts, you know, yeah, it's a couple hundred,000
expenditure, but you know, we we shouldn't, you know, push that one to the side just because it's a couple hundred,000 and we say, "Oh, we can do that different." We were looking at only the big ones and trying to do it. Well, but I I want I want everybody to understand it's not just talking about
this these five or top five or even top 10 or 15. Yeah. No, I agree. And something like $150,000 uh parks and wreck budget. That's big. No pun intended, but that's a big bus. So that should go on one of these list because that's going to put and what
I've always done and that's why the lists are so important. I've always brought back when I bring in that tenative millillage and that discussion the items that I couldn't fund as a city manager that were on your list and then you get the decision to be made there in
August before you set a millillage because that parks and recck budget is all general fund. So, you be and Kathy, I'm sorry, but you're gonna be talking about, you know, which uh which new police cars you're gonna which once the replacement cycle on your police cars
versus that parks and wreck bus. And I guess the good news for the fire chief, that's only maybe about a quarter of what his apparatus costs now. So, you up to the million-doll mark yet on those ALS engines? Probably close.
Yeah. Yeah. But all of that is the same funding source. Uh police and fire is 70% and on Kathy's defense, parks and wreck always takes it in the ear in every municipality because you've got to deal with the the realities of public
safety within a community and what's needed with regards to public safety, too. So Kathy, we may have to start a GoFund uh account for your bus, but we'll get there. But I think that's something that needs to go on the list, mayor, because it's big. So needs to get on there in terms of general fund item. All right, Commissioner Dicki, we
totally took away the mayor did it, but totally took away from your time. That's all right. Thank you. Uh, my top five for this for fiscal year 206 is of course the master pump station. And I think that's something we could we could wouldn't have to wait
till 26 to start the work on it, which it sounds like uh we're already moving forward on some of the work that needs to be done. The public safety building or facility is number two. Number three is the public works
building. Uh number four for me is Dune Walkovers. And number five, I'm sure I'll be the only one that has this on their list, is replacing the Sunset Beach Pavilion. Uh it's a highly visible eyesore right now and uh it needs to be
replaced. So those those were my top five for next year. I when you're ready, I'll give you uh three quick ones for this year. Number four was the dune walkovers. Yeah, she she got the sunset
for those. Anyway, for the when you're ready, Lisa Marie. Okay. for for fiscal year. These are the three things I hope we're starting to work on right now is the seaw walls uh on 108th, 115th and 120th Avenue. We have the money
budgeted for that in fiscal year 25 and I'd like to see us start moving forward on getting those seaw walls repaired uh this year. Uh uh the wastewater relining uh project is also another uh item that was budgeted and uh as a capital
improvement in 2025. So I'd like to see that. And the third one is the force main replacement uh on on 116th Avenue. Those are the uh all all of those again were things that were budgeted for and planned to do in
fiscal year 25. I would also say So I have five pages. So um um I'll go fast. Uh so my number one is reconstruction of all the buildings that we lost from hurricane from the hurricanes in order. So uh public safety
building wherever uh we may put it. uh public works uh of course we have to discuss the sanitation outsourcing discussion before uh master pumps uh station uh I think we got to overengineer it I think it has to be
engineered to if we were to sell it to NASA right so we overengineer it uh make it uh very easily sellable um uh whether we decide to s uh uh sell the sewer to penel county of course that
would rely on uh rerouting the sewer from going to St. P Beach to MadiRaa Beach. That's a a big thing there. Uh number two would be uh all phases of the LDR updates. Although there are three of them on this list, I I think all three
of them are my number two. It would be literally the most important update in TI's history. uh it's an effort to jumpst start even revive from the death uh redevelopment or development. So page
two um and of course um redevelopment of vacant commercial properties. Uh so of course that's all phases of LDRs. Once reviewed and implemented, uh we urged
the land owner to rebuild and we asked them to offer amenities to residents. Um so, uh yeah, that's as far as I'm going there. Uh number four would be Treasure
Bay and uh I agree with Commissioner Clark. I think we uh bring in um ideas because it is ideas. We all it's a community discussion. um on the potential of a treasure bay
that's marketable because we obviously have to market to the people coming here and to the residents of facilities that we could use and utilize. I won't bore you with all this. And number five, uh parking. Um it
is our uh second uh source of revenue um generating. I think it's underutilized. Um I I don't I think the number I hear is 300,000. Is that correct? That how
much we bring in for parking. I think it should be closer to a million. Um and so yeah is Oh well great. So I think we should be approaching everything everything that uh is out there um is is
uh going to be hurting this year, but we'll be able to grow it back and we'll actually be able to to grow it uh with the addition of some other activity, especially when we move the fire and police department back over to 108 uh in
the short term. um that this can then become parking as well. And this is prime parking that can generate as much as5 $6,000 per parking spot per year. Excellent. So yeah, my number is a little skewed there, but uh I think uh what's very important is uh I think we
got to consider hiring a consultant and uh although I don't like spending money, that's something that obviously could um we could re recoup that expense very fairly quickly. Um, we make a general uh
fund um and a staff member to uh do dynamic pricing uh in levels like A, B, C, and D. Um, and I would like to share something. When I was in St. Augustine uh for Christmas, um, I parked during the day at a city lot and I think it was
like8 to$10 an hour, two hour minimum. And we were walking by later that evening for our ghost tour and there were I'm going to have to say could easily filled Raymond James maybe twice over amount of people that were in downtown for this event during Christmas. And I heard a guy yelling at
the machine $25 per hour, two hour minimum. Max uh charge I think is like 125, you know, in a time frame, you know, if he forgets. I don't know what the process was, but that's quite a bit of money difference to what we're charging. I think four bucks an hour.
Yeah. So, uh I think we do levels uh zones A, B, and C and D and so on. Uh closest to the beach and uh and then I got a couple honorable mentions. Um of course, uh beach reourishment. Um we
definitely have to figure out that Sunshine Beach easement issues. Uh the June walkovers. Um uh seaw wall repair and replacement. Um, I think we need maybe an on call engineer. Uh, maybe something that can't be tackled all at
once due to the expense, but as we see a seaw wall fail, uh, then we have someone who shoots in and, uh, goes and repairs or replaces it. And, um, I would like to see a an EV charging
station, um, like a Tesla supercharger, but that could be a stretch. And uh I know that's on the agenda uh but I definitely give props to Robert Bazo uh a resident of district 2 uh for
a post disaster recovery plan uh something that I think city staff should tackle soon. Maybe it's a three- ring binder that gets dusty on the shelf somewhere and we never have to bring it down again. Uh so we don't have the same mistakes as we did uh after the storms
between options one and two. when it could be more streamlined and we get uh staff here uh from the state or the feds soon, god forbid if we have to go through this again. That's it. Thank you.
Um so my list is is not quite that long. Um I have the police and fire. I mean pretty much the same as everybody else. police and fire state, police and fire building, lift station, public works building, um, and the seaw walls. That's only
four, but again, that adds up to $27 million. We pretty much need those things as soon as possible. So, until I can figure out how we're going to fund this, I don't see much, you know, much sense in going way be way down past
this. Um, and a couple of a couple of, I guess, comments on that are, you know, I think there's still some out there about the police and fire, how much that could cost. Um, same with the public works building. You know, I'm for hoping we can get some outsourcing done and have
that building cost less. Um, and then the seaw walls, I mean, we have to do those. I mean, the 115th one, I don't know if it can even make it through another storm. Um, you know, I I I I own a chainsaw and so I was able to go clear
the uh the roof off the road when we couldn't get to the streets, but if this seaw wall fails and this whole thing washes out, I don't own a bulldozer, so I can't go um fix that. So, I mean, th those are in really bad shape. And I get calls on the 115 SEAW wall probably once
a week. So, that that's really mine. And until I can see like a funding plan to how we're going to pay for this, again, hopefully without taking on a bunch of new debt and and and andreasing taxes, I don't see a lot of reason to go much further down this list. I I wanted to make two other
comments. Um, I keep hearing parking coming up and development, and I'm I'm I agree 1,000%. But what we can't do is just throw up a parking lot somewhere. And anytime you go to any new cool mixeduse development,
the parking is one of the first things that they integrate and talk about and and put into a development. So to me, that all needs to talk about at the same time as we as we as we um develop downtown. We don't just want to throw something up that then doesn't match or
you can't walk to the where all the you know the buildings wind up being. And and then lastly is I do somewhat agree um uh Commissioner Dicki and and Mayor about you know we don't want to we don't
want to um you know overreact to our taxes going you know revenue going down over the two years and make all these decisions. But the only thing that's really going to change if we pull out of this is again revenue from development. And until I
can truly see something move on development and and believe that our anti-development stance that this town has had over the 10 years actually changes, then I'm not sure that things are going to get a ton better in the
future. So that's just just my comment. My turn. I'll be nice and wait. So, um, number one for me, top priority. And not only is it a top priority, I think it is it has to happen yesterday is we need to make final
decisions on public safety building where it's going to go. Um, we've all agreed in different meetings that, you know, none of us really want to outsource the police department. Um, I'll speak for myself that I definitely don't, but we've all agreed on that um
in meetings as a group um since we've been sworn in. So, you know, I keep hearing, you know, yes, it's everybody's um top priority, but it's it's a must um for several reasons. For one, again, I know we've had the hurricanes. This is
nothing new. The reason it's going to cost what it cost is because for a decade we've kicked it down the road. And um we can't do it anymore. Uh we're going to lose officers every year. Um the sheriff's department comes I'm not going to say it comes for our officers,
but they make it very attractive. And um you know if our if our police officers and and our firemen quite frankly don't feel like they are supported and you know in an endeavor that they were promised many many years ago and now
it's a necessity. It's it's not a want, it's a need. Um it needs to be a priority. We need to make a decision of where it's going to go and we need to stick with it and that needs to happen like very soon. Um, I get not wanting to
add debt, but it was never going to be um fully paid for and funded. Um, taking out a loan for it for a portion of it has always been on the agenda. Um, so that's nothing new. It was never going
to be we have all the money in the world to pay for this building, let's pay for it. It was never that was never the plan. Um, it's, you know, again, I get it. We can't raise taxes. I get it. We can't do that to the people they've incurred. That's why we have to figure out whether it's through outsourcing of
everything we can, um, and still have great service. Um, you know, that is what we have to look at. But no matter what, we have to get our public safety building figured out, pick a place, stick to it, whatever that looks like,
as soon as possible. Um, you know, it's uh it's not fair. It's not fair to the officers. It's not fair to the fire department to, you know, back and forth and back and forth. So that that is absolutely number one priority uh
priority um for me is we got to pick it and do it. Um, second, um, and I, this kind of looks a little different than everyone else's, um, when it comes to public works, um, kind of to address what John, um, already addressed, or I
think it was John or Chuck, I can't remember. Um, you know, public works, the size of the building is going to greatly depend on what we outsource. Um, I don't know where we're at on getting numbers back for solid waste
outsourcing. Um, but again, I don't think we can make, as much as we need one, I don't think we can make any decisions on that until we know how big of a building they're going to need, how much is going to be outsourced, how much of a parking lot are they going to need.
Um, so though it needs to be done, no, no question about it, um, I think there are things that we have to figure out before we make that final decision, um, to be able to make the right decision and what's right for the taxpayers because obviously size of the building
matters. Um, so I think we have to get those things figured out before we know what size of building that we need to build. Um, I will say that yes, and even the deputy director from the county said, if
you have a grant to build to do the master pump station, do it. Um, and Pam and I were talking briefly yesterday about it. And yes, if we don't line the pipes and we don't do certain things that they deem need to be done, there
could be a charge to the city. Um some things have changed in the last um when when I talked to the actual director in the last um four I think it's four or five years and how they do it when they acquire now um but she did say if we
have the funding for the master pump station then do it. So I would definitely agree with that. Um development is it it's easy to say but again I think it's something that we have to address. Um, I know that has to
go through certain um, steps, but I think that needs to be done yesterday. Um, the longer we wait, the longer before people start to build. So, I think um the sooner we can get the rules changed that we need changed um the
better because what we don't want to happen is the people that currently own the properties to take advantage of the Senate bill that was approved last week um through the live local which basically takes everything out of our
hands. And um you the old bill before that one was passed last week um they could only build to the highest on your land or on your city and so on and so forth. And a lot changed last week. So I
think we are really neglect if we don't address that sooner than later and get it done and make a decision so that our developers can start developing before they take the easy route. quite frankly. Um, Treasure Bay, um, and that would
come under development, I guess. Um, Treasure Bay, uh, definitely. I mean, we all have ideas. Um, John touched on, um, the meeting with the St. Augustine mayor, St. Augustine Beach me mayor. Um, he was
amazing. He is willing to come over, um, with his team. Um, I talk to him probably three times a week. um he is willing to come over with his team and look at Treasure Bay, look at
108th, give us their ideas as far as doing a you know and obviously not as big as their amphitheater that they have there, but um he just went and helped Key West do theirs and it was not that big. It was literally on four acres. Um
his sits on a lot more than that. Um, however, you know, they bring in $30 million a year to their city through the amphitheater. That's also through parking. Um, they have a lot of off parking. We just had this discussion a
couple days ago. Um, they make a lot of money busing, you know, making deals with schools and stuff elsewhere when they have big events to where they are busing people back and forth from the parking lots and they make a lot of money from that as well. So we have
someone who for free is willing to come over and help us figure it out and he has a proven track record of success. So I think that is a very valuable um asset that we should use. And if you
guys haven't looked at St. Augustine Beach, you definitely should because it's amazing what they've done with it. And God knows they've been hit by hurricanes more than we have. So, um, seaw wall replacement I agree needs to be done. That's already been planned
for. Um, and one of the things whether it be um 108, whatever it looks at that has the potential to bring a lot of money to the city um is uh marina. We really need to
look at a public marina. Um, as a boater and fisher fisher person, um, we have to either go to Madera Beach or we have to go to the south end of St. Pete Beach to refuel on the water. Um, Madera Beach
makes a fortune and they have two gas pumps and they make a fortune. They do it by encouraging when there's a fishing tournament, they give tins and off a gallon to everybody fishing it. they give and these boats. I don't know how many have boats, but trust me, it's
thousands of dollars to fill up these boats. So, that I think we have the ability 108 I think would be amazing to do that with. We already have public docks. It wouldn't be that difficult to do. Um, also parking there for boats
that want to come in because we're going to be building downtown. We're going to have places people want to come to go eat by boat and we would be one of the only communities around that would have that because though Madera Beach has great stuff, they have no public access by boat. So, that is something I think
could be a huge benefit. Um, one thing that I haven't heard mentioned, um, and I'm almost done. One thing that I haven't heard mentioned was public private deals which so the city doesn't have to incur all the cost. Um speaking
of the amphitheater, that's exactly what St. Augustine Beach did and it was an amazing process they went through. Um and there's many reasons for it. It's not just for um cost savings and
management um when you're dealing with concerts. And I never thought about this. Um, and I mentioned this to Pam yesterday. Um, one of the things he mentioned was even though it's not a big amphitheater, Kenny Chzn's team called one day and said, "Hey, he's kicking his
concert off, but he wants to do a trial run and we want to do it your amphitheater. You have 20 minutes to give us an answer or we're moving on to the next." I mean, anybody who knows music, it doesn't even have to be country, knows how much money that had
the potential to bring to that city. So, if it was strictly government ran, um, it would have taken a week or two to figure out. And because it was a private public partnership, they got an answer in 10 minutes. So, that's some things we
have to look at for rest, you know, again, 108 if we want to make that a marina. um you know public private restaurant parking parking garage I mean there's so many different ways but I definitely think we need to make sure and look at that public private partnership moving forward in a lot of
these endeavors also and now I'll hush can I say two things real fast um yeah I mean 108 is ripe for public private partnership show is treasure bay and this goes back to what I I need to get done and I you know Ardan you mentioned the group you have that put together of
citizens going after the money Again, we need a group of citizens put together to help with the development. Um, we have experts here in public private partnership in development in going and finding funding from people like JP
Morgan and other places. And you know, so if we don't get the resources we have here involved to help us with this, shame on us. And I will agree with you on the marina. Uh we probably go every weekend, including uh this weekend, and
stop at the Indian Rocks public docks because we can walk to seven different restaurants and when we come home from the beach, we stop, we eat, we drink, spend a lot of money, and then we come here. I'd love to be able to just stop here on my way home, grab a bite to eat, and then and then but I can't. So, so I
see on all of our lists, uh, Treasure Bay is obviously a lot of other things, but Treasure Bay is on the list. Is it possible for us to do, uh, private, uh, private public private partnerships on Treasure Bay? Do we know that answer?
Yep. Everything is always possible. But remember, before you have people start negotiating deals for you, all those kind of negotiations are in the sunshine. And you you can't you know I'm not your city attorney but just just just just know that everything has to go through a very public the negotiations
committees for example the committee that would have selected the RFQS that's that's all public and posted as public meeting. So just don't don't step in it before you get too far down the line there. As Jen would say she'll let the next city attorney deal with all those issues.
Let's uh let's move on. But I want to stay Jen with this. You and I have talked about this several times, the public private relationship. And even though it is and we give a lease to, you know, potentially that's how it's going to be is that we've got the land, we're
going to give a lease, um, that would still take a referendum. Correct. So, correct. And even though we still own the land, we still have to go out to it because we're going to give a lease. Okay. So, that's I'm sorry.
That would go to a vote. There's a section in your charter's Hello. Okay. There's a section in your charter that provides that for in the city for any parklands if you want to sell them, transfer them, lease them more than three years, um that you would
have to go to referendum and the same thing for waterfront land or land that provides water access. What's the timeline on say we want to bring Treasure Bay to a vote or other areas in Treasure Island? I mean, is that something we could see on the
November ballot or like this year? There isn't a November ballot. So, it'd be March of next year. Right. And it would be as to the the lease, whatever you're leasing. So, I mean, you you don't have the deal in place right now to even know what you would be putting out there as far as the term of the lease and and the
property included, you know, what that footprint looks like. Thank you. I'm gonna chime in one more time. Sorry, John. on that um that since you mentioned it Arthur, one of the things um when I've been talking to the mayor over there that he said is one thing yes
it has to go to referendum however that's where um it comes in so important the transparency and also the guesstimates and fortunately we have them to use as an example um of making
sure the residents know the potential costsaving things and and what it could do and what it's already done is making sure, you know, hey, we don't want to just do this. This is why. And that's why his um when it went to referendum over there, they did so well is they
made sure the people understood and they stood by it. They stood by it. That was the thing. So that's how he got it passed and got it passed very very easily is because of the transparency and knowledge uh to the citizens.
So, not to bring up the past, but we had this PD in 2016 uh who would educate the public on something like this. So, I can tell you um in 2016 um the PD was something that was put forth by the
city and so um both I think the planning and zoning board as well as the city commission were trying to educate because as a city you cannot advocate when you have something on the referendum. So, we're trying to educate as to what this referendum would
provide. Um and that's that's what happened in in 2016. But there was a a citizens group in 2016 that was very opposed to it and put out information um that was false. And so as much as the tri the city tried
to educate, you know, it wasn't successful or the referendum wasn't successful. So, you know, exactly what um Commissioner Vasquez said was education would be huge with this, you know, in transparency and letting people know why this is what something the city
wants to pursue as well as a positive economic impact. Correct. My citizens development group that I was talking about we should have could help definitely help educate because they would be experts on public private partnership and things like that. So,
We've been talking several several of us had mentioned something about uh changing the LDRs and uh specifically about making them more uh development friendly and and I and and I'm certainly open-minded to that. But I li local
aside for a second. Uh do we currently have restrictions on heightened density that would also have to go to referendum if we were to change it? No. So what you have is you still have in your land development regulations there's a provision that says that if you change your land development regulations as to
heighten density you have to go to referendum. However few years ago the legislature passed a law that preempts local government from taking those um land development regulations to referendum for approval. So you would be
able to change your land development regulations right now as to heighten density. That being said, I just want to throw this out there is I'm not aware of an issue particularly with regard to height, but with regard to density, um I know that our comp plan still needs to
be in compliance with the county's comp plan. So, you would want to work with whoever is in um community development in making sure that we're having compliance with the county's plan. And there's also, I believe, restrictions
with regard to permanent residential density because we're in a special flood hazard area. So, I'm not sure that you could, and this would be something you need to look at, but I'm not sure that you could increase density for permanent residential. Um, but I you may be able
to as far as commercial, hotel, and um other ones. I know with hotel there were um when we did the PD um which wasn't increasing density I think it was just doing height it had um specific provisions in it that had to we had to include for like emergency notification
and things like that which all the hotels comply with anyways. So what about uh in special situations density transfers? So there are provisions in the Panelis County rules with regard to
um uh transfer of development rights. Um there's also density averaging that's done in some cities. There's a lot of different ways to deal with density. It just really would be dependent on how the city wants to handle that and what is in conformance with the Penllis
County rules and their plans. Thank you. services. Are you hearing me now? Yeah. Okay. So, um I think that everybody, you know, the one thing about doing uh being fifth is that uh
everybody's pretty much said everything you can. Uh but I I still want to bring out the the public safety facility uh building uh or reconstruction. I think that that is uh that is our number one. I mean, we've we've got uh our our firefighters, our police officers,
they've now spent close to six months and they're out here in uh in these trailers. And uh we're going to do something uh still temporary, but we're going to give them something that is uh is a a better correct chief's a better
solution over on the um on the parking lot over by by the current the better temporary. That's that's the best way to put it. Thank you very much. Um so that that's something that uh that we need to take a real hard look at. Uh I I can say that uh we still
aren't completely locked out uh of funds um in Tallahassee. Uh but that's coming up here in the next week. I believe it is a week or 10 days. So uh so hopefully fingers crossed we uh we did get to the right people uh in the Senate. Uh we
don't know what happened in the house, but uh let's let's take a look at that uh before we uh before we make any uh real decisions to move one way or the other. The uh the master pump station, yes, I think that the lady that joined us from the county basically said, "If
you've got money, grant money, spend it. Get it done because yes, we're still going to have to have a pump station somewhere to get everything out of the city." And uh so that would be number two. Um number three is taking a look at the
public works uh facility that that needs to uh to be put in place. Um, yeah, we we need to get some answers and I think that the the five of us um I think that we would maybe like to see a little bit more and hear a little bit more, but for
the most part uh we've all sat through uh different presentations. Um and that we we would want to move forward uh something there as well. Um, that's one of those things that, you know, if you say, "Hey, you we can put it out to a third party and it's
going to save us $6, uh, you know, per home per month." Um, and I'll tell you what, uh, that's if going to be have and that's it's going to probably be something in that neighborhood. Um, and you know, do the folks want to see the
quality and the value or do they just want to see that they're going to pay $6 less? And I think that this is a community that basically would say for $6. I mean, I I get it. It's a it's a 25 or even a 30% discount, but it's $6. And
and you know that we uh we do have great folks that uh you know, go back that make special trips to pick up things. We're not going to charge $100 extra, you know, for for somebody that put a sofa out by the street if we continue to do it our way. And you know what we're
doing today. So, a lot of stuff there needs to uh to come together as well. Uh the public seaw wall seaw walls, I think that we they that's underway and uh even with the living shoreline, it's underway. I think that we just need to continue to follow through.
Um number five, uh I I've kind of changed a little bit, but my number five basically now is uh beach reourishment. um that is why people come to Treasure Island and we need to get the reourishment that takes care of the dune
walkovers as well and the repairs because you really can't repair them, you know, as it is the state is it is today with not enough sand out there or anything else. So, u number six I think is uh wasn't even on my radar when we
did this uh months ago, but uh is parking. Um and uh when we went to Tallahassee and you just heard person after person after person get up and uh people that like Joan Goodrich who's um you know our
uh economic development director um she said the same thing and that's every one of the economic development directors for all the cities. I don't care if it was Tallahassee or if it was you know uh St. Pete Beach. They all talked about that this is the only way you're going
to the cities are going to be able to continue to offer services and not continue to raise taxes. We need to have these relationships with the private uh public uh partnerships and we need to do it sooner than later. And when I say
that I'm it's not going to be tomorrow. Yeah, it's going to be three to five years from now. But we need to start now if we're going to see benefits three to five years from now. Uh so those are uh those are the the thoughts I had. But uh for Kathy um you
know that uh there's a lot of things that that she has and a lot of things that need to get done. We've been pushing things off uh in that department for a long time. You know, whether it be the bus, whether it be the pavilions that were basically falling apart. Um
there's a lot of things that need to get done and just because they're in parks and wreck and a smaller dollar amount per per piece um I think that we can't keep pushing because that's all we're doing is kicking those items down the road as well. U and my biggest thing is
how many of these items that are on here if we would have done proper maintenance years ago uh we wouldn't be dealing with today. And uh the seaw walls are a good example of that. We knew what our seaw walls were. Another good example was the marina over by the uh the former police
station and fire station. Um basically those were condemned. They they got torn down because the county condemned them. Uh so somebody was not doing their maintenance. And uh I'm seeing that a lot more as I look around the city and
everything else. You can look at things and say, "Wow, why why wasn't that painted five years ago?" Or or you know, there's a lot of different things taking place. So I think that we need to to take a look at it with with a serious eye about what are we doing, how are we doing it, and why are we doing it or not
doing it. Thank you. All right, we have um 18 items. You're at the fun part. We do have to get out here at 4. Um you guys do have lives and I appreciate the three hours plus you've given us. So, we're going to get you out of here on time. Um you're going to get
five dots each. You could cheat. um if you want and put them all on one item. I've seen that happen. But I would ask you though, we think we've got we captured everything. Clerk has the list. So if anybody wants to look at any time, we
tried not to lose anything, but the only one I see that might can still be consolidated. This was from all of your list again. The review of comp plan and LDRs. Do you want us to put that here with the redevelopment of vacant private
property? Is that that kind of that's when I wrote it I'm like can you move? So I would just put a slash and say review of comp plan and LDRs. This the first part doesn't happen without the
second. We'll get that down a little bit farther for you. And Commissioner Dicki, we still have on the sewer force main replacement of 116th. We still have the master pump station. Do you want I don't I'm I'm scared about
consolidating those. And yeah, they are totally separate projects. So, um do you see anything else you want to consolidate before you do your red dots? And since you've been such a group, good group, do you want 10 dots each? Small negotiation going on
here. Okay. All right. You could merge I think a number 11 with 14. 11 is development of vacant property, vacant private properties and we put
review comp plan and LDRs. Oh, you want to make it just one big category? Could be a subcategory or okay with that? Certainly follow. All right. So, let's add 14 over here too. Just write 14 and then you'll know what it
is. And the thing is you don't lose any of these items. I you're going to see what I used to do being slightly anal um was actually give the commission an update every quarter and then we started preparing the budget. You see all of
this again because all of this impacts the budget and we you know we can kind of go it's like John said all that maintenance that's got to be done but all of these are large items that are going to impact the budget as well. So Chuck's not going to lose any of this. And trust me, I'll remind him if if he
does, but you're a project guy and a fixer. You like all this stuff. It's good. All right. Okay. So, that crossed out then 14. And if you'll give them the red dots. All right. You've got five. And the reason we do this, I once sent a
county chair that looked at me like I was absolutely nuts. We we had been accomplishing a lot in terms of projects and redevelopment and they added on to my list and I said something along the lines of, "Well, you're going to kill the golden goose here. I can only do so much." But that's the point. you know
that you're a small city and you're going to have to prioritize what you want your staff working on because you just there's a lot of vacant positions and a lot of missing depth from co quite frankly in a lot of the cities we cut out the middle layers in a lot of the departments and a lot of that hasn't
come back so there's still folks limited limited people to help you with this all right let's get up and dots yes sir I think it was kind of what you were talking about a little bit and the discussion on um Treasure Bay if you
were going to bring in any sort of amphitheater public private partnership. Oh, trust me. Treasure Bay will be a whole separate issue. I uh whole separate issue. Um, but I get your point. I get
your point for sure. And it's going to just kind of evolve as you go along. And who says you don't update this again when you start your budget prep come uh well, your budget reviews in July and August? Okay, get your five dots and uh go for it.
He's like, I'm eating my cookie red dots. I hear I like I told you to go What does the mayor say? I would agree. We all put two up there. I put two
Use five. Come on. Everybody okay with that? So eight All right. So, you have public safety facility number one. Yay. I was I was teasing the fire chief. I think the Catholic Church on
St. beach is is finished with the tent. So that that was gonna be the better facility. I don't know. He's he's so kind to Rotary. He comes about once a quarter and speaks. So I have to be nice to him. He's he's a big supporter of
Golf Beach's Rotary. Um and then we have it looks like a tie master pump station and big one redevelopment of vacant private properties reviewing comp plan LDRs and including public private partnerships. That's um yeah it's a big
one but it's obviously something that is a commission priority. Master pump station we talked about and then we've got options for Treasure Bay, options for Public Marina. I, by the way, had one of those slips. We moved the Morgan
38 from Panama City to Treasure Island in like July of 2005. Snag one of those slips. You cannot get in that slips. They are so shallow for deep water boats. But, uh, yeah, it's a great location. Awesome location. Um and then
you've got beach reourishment dune walkover parking system revenue enhancement public seaw wall repair head two we should note public works facility and one of my skippins sunset beach pavilion. So, the way it's going to work, Chuck will bring back, it will not
be at the May 6th meeting, um I would say as part of the budget because he's going to be in the throws of budget prep in May and June. But these items and it he won't stop working on them obviously. Uh we've just heard that there is a meeting of the committee that's
reviewing architectural proposals for public safety. Um I think May May 5th, May 6th. So staff isn't going to stop um in terms of what they're already working on, but he will bring you within that budget if it's something that's got to
be added to the budget, what the financial options are, and present all of that as he presents the budget basically to you. Um what I call it is milestones and a workflow chart in the sense of the steps involved in this. You all know and I don't need to tell you
the multitude of decisions that are still involved to implement each of these. So nothing will stop there, but you will see this again in your budget and reflected in your budget. And with that, I'm going to turn it back to the mayor because I know we have public comment, I think, is the last item or commission.
All right. So, we do have John Peterson and here, let me walk over and give you this and you'll have five minutes. Thank you. Is this working? Hi, John Peterson. Uh, I live
in the Al Capri. I have uh lived there uh 40 years. So, uh I've been through everything you guys have talked about. And the first thing I want to say is happy Earth. And then the the second thing is I I'm gonna make a few comments about
what you said. You said parking revenue like two or three years ago it was $45 to park to get a parking pass and now it went down to five. I mean you jack that up a little bit. And uh the other thing is you're
worried about you know these buildings getting the funding for them. I don't know if you can do this or not but have a naming thing. Have a company come in. you know, call it the Charter Communications, public works place. Uh, these people are movie stars, anybody.
They want their name. People love to see their names on buildings and they are willing to pay for it. And the other parking thing, which is a little off the wall here, is uh floating islands. You could put a floating island in the channel there and the technology is
there to build parking. and uh the storm comes, you just tie it tied up to the warf and you just drive cars on and off and you got parking. You're not using any land. Something to think about. Okay. Uh the other thing is I want So
you guys, you did a great job on hurricane relief. I was just absolutely amazed how fast you guys got everything back together. The police, the parks. Shout out to Kathy there. She got Roselli Park back in action again. The commissioner did a great job. We got electricity, we got water, we got the
sores. I mean, we were back in action in a very short period of time and thank you for that. Okay. And then uh what what I'm actually here for is uh we're having there's going to be an event. I have to tell you some facts. Uh the
federal government has cut funding, stopped funding for all the food banks in the country. They've also cut funding to Meals on Wheels. And they also cut funding to all the school lunch programs. This is just a few of the things. But there is a temporary
solution. On May 10th, which is the second Saturday in May, the United States Post Office Letter Carriers Union is going to have a food drive. They do this every year. And uh I spoke to Al Freriedman. He's a regional director. Uh
he said the biggest problem they have is people are reluctant to put their food on the mailbox. They don't know what's going to happen to it. So, what we're going to do this year is we're going to have a drop off point in Roselli Park. Um, I'm working with the uh Al Capri Civic
Association and uh what I want you guys to do is get the word out that this is going to happen because uh I'll tell you what how this all started. I don't know about how I'm doing at time here. Uh we used to have driveway what we still do have driveway parties. We live in townhouse and the thing was you brought
your own chair, you brought your own drinks, you brought your own snacks and we provided you know a space and last year we said during the food drive we said bring some food also. And to make a
long story short we got so much food the mail trucks couldn't pick it up we had to take it down our big SUV and take it down to the post office. So this idea does work. So, I want everybody, you know, to get the word out that it's going to be May 10th, Saturday. I'm also
working to have a early drop off hopefully Thursday and Friday, too. But, I'll get back to you on that. And that's the reason why I'm here. And thank you. All right. Um, with that I think we are wrapped up. Is there anything that anybody really wants to
say? Okay. Oh, okay. Mayor and commissioners, I'd just like to say thank you. any members of the public, thank you for attending and also Pam, thank you. You know, facilitating this is and out of the donation and just because you care about the community means a lot. And I want to
give a shout out to Kathy has over 80 kids registered for summer camp and what I was telling the chief I you guys are living it every day and you're making a difference in terms of doing the triage and moving forward and moving the city forward. So, thank all of you literally
for continuing to serve Treasure Island. Pam, I I'd like to jump in here real quickly and just thank you again for leading us through this process because it really did enlighten me in particular of how close in thinking we are because I I I tend to think that we are so at
opposite ends on so many issues. But when I see this and and see how how many of us agree with just about everything that's up there, it's uh it's good to know that. So, we just have to figure out as a group how to how to work to make these things happen. So, thank you for taking us through this process.
And also uh get the public involved. That's very important piece. Yeah, that was one thing I just wanted to say. I do appreciate your time. I appreciate the entire thing. I think it was great. Uh but I continue to get tons
of when we start talking about budgets and taxes. I that's when I start getting tons of um emails and texts from residents that are like they want to be involved and they can't make it here during the day. So my only thing would be is there any possible way that in the
future we have these in the evening? Um because I think those are some hot topics right now for the city. So, I'll just throw that out there. Or even a Saturday as long as it's not voting season. All right, we are adjourned.