Meeting is now called to order. Please stand with the flag. Adequate notice. This meeting has been given in accordance with the old public meeting act pursuant to public laws 1975 chapter 231. This agenda is complete to the extent known and was sent to the
Trenton Times newspapers. Posted on the first floor in Golden City Hall and found in the city clerk's office and posted on city of Trenton website. Formal action will be taken. Please all remain muted. I will now take roll call.
>> Yes. >> Vice President Evans >> present. >> Counciloman Feliciano >> present. >> Councilwoman Figo >> present. >> Councilwoman Frisbee >> present.
>> Councilman Harrison I believe is in route. Is that correct? Thank you. >> Uh, Council Williams, >> present. You presented. >> Council President Gonzalez, >> presented. >> Myself, Brandon Garcia, municipal clerk is present.
Mr. Edward Colloji, legislative council. >> And Mr. Wesley Bridges, city attorney. >> Thank you. And Madam President, at this time as I if you'd like, I'll read the invocation. >> Yes, please. Almighty God, who holds the fate of man
and nation, we most humbly beseech thee to bless this our city, these deliberations, and these thy servants that they may act with wisdom and understanding for the good of our community and thy greater glory. Amen. >> Amen. Thank you. >> And at this time, Madame President, as I
understand you have a recognition that you would like to. >> Yes. However, he running behind schedule cuz the soccer game just ended at Trenton High. So if we can move to the first presentation and then he he needs about about 10 15 minutes. So by that time we can start our first
presentation. >> Our sole presentation that I'm aware of is the DVRPC road safety project from Malbury Street North Avenue. Yes, >> they are present here right ahead and madam president just to be sure uh as I understand they have 10 minutes for the
presentation. Is that correct? >> Correct. >> Thank you. Are you down? All right, perfect. Good evening. My name is Jen Harris and I'm with the Delaware Valley Regional
Planning Commission and um I'm here with Chris Tuma from East Trenton Collaborative. Um together with our partners at Mcnite Elementary School, the city of Trenton public works and Greater Mercer TMA, we have been working
on Inspired and Safe Streets, which is a communitydriven project focused on making it safer for everyone to walk, bike, drive, take transit in the East Trenton neighborhood. And just for a little history of this
work, um this work is grounded in the traffic safety issues that East Treton residents identified in their road safety audit that they did. And um they noted different concerns like speeding cars, illegal parking, um people feeling
unsafe by gaming, crossing the street. So for the past 3 years, our group has been turning these concerns into on the ground interventions um using quick build tools like paint, signs, flexible materials to make the
street safer. And the next phase of this work um which we've called slow the curve focuses on Malbury Street and North Clinton Avenue between route one and Lawrence um with a
specific focus on the sharp curve around St. Joe's. And um just a little background about the project, it's fully community funded through grants. And the goals of this project and the intended
benefits are to improve safety for all road users, calm traffic, slow speeds, and improve connections to different community destinations. So here is how the design improved safety. Um the current parking lanes,
which is shown in the top image, um are pretty narrow. They're they range from 6 1/2 to 7 ft, which is narrow. um narrower than this standard which causes frequent sides swipes and many residents have said that they avoid parking there
because they feel it's unsafe to park there. Um so this new design replaces those unsafe parking areas with protected bike lanes um which are separated by reflective um parking stops and flexible barriers as well as a
painted buffer. And um this is important because um even though this is a bike lane, this is not just a bike project. This is a tool that we're using to calm traffic. Um protected bike lanes are a proven safety
countermeasure and are known to reduce bike crashes by over 50% and all crashes including car crashes by nearly 30%. Um we also know that over 100 people bike on this road already. um using um
different traffic counts that we've done. And also a third of the neighborhood households don't own a car. And so this upgrade directly improves everyday safety and mobility. And here is just another image of the um
the different materials that we plan to use for this project, the vertical delineators, parking stops, and the painted buffers. Um, and knowing that the curve is a particular concern for the residents of the neighborhood, we also propose adding
some curb specific safety measures like reflective chevron signs and um, these reflective grids to make the curve more visible at night. as well as adding the painted slow markings on the road and the um
transverse rumble strips to um indicate to drivers that they should slow down as they approach the curve. So, next I'll turn it over to Kurt. >> Thank you, uh J. Thank you, council president, vice president, council
members for allowing us to present this evening. Um I'm going to talk a little bit about some of the outreach that we've already done and what some of our potential next steps will be. Um we've done um an extensive bit of outreach already and it's also I think important
to note that this project has come directly as a response to community and resident complaints about um the area around Malberry Street specifically the curve of Malberry Street and also just the street in general and how um dangerous it is traffic safety wise.
Um, we have gone out and visited all 20 homes and six businesses on the corridor on both Malberry Street and North Lav. And while we were out, we shared uh flyers that were in both English and Spanish. So, those are just copies of uh
flyers that you have on the slide there. They had a little bit of information about the project in general and then specifically about what we are proposing to do. And we also presented um the project to the uh resident le uh east collaborative
traffic safety community organizing committee which um for those of you who don't know they're a resident led group that really guides uh the traffic safety work that we do at the east collaborative. I know I saw I heard at least one of them on the call. So shout out to all the traffic safety committee
members if you're on listening to this. >> All right. Is that better? All right, cool. Um, some additional or sorry, getting into like the feedback that we received while we were out there. Um, it was overwhelmingly positive overall.
Most residents were uh supportive about the project and about the uh traffic safety improvements. Um, as we stated before, many residents are already not parking on the street because it's not safe even in areas where there is legal
street parking. Uh we spoke to multiple residents that either had their own vehicles struck while they were parked or um had neighbors whose vehicles were struck. So they're already utilizing the side streets largely for parking or
they're utilizing off streetet parking. Um and the businesses overall were in favor of the improvements as well. um most were not concerned with any potential impacts on parking because um for for them for their customers it's
the same issues that residents face and that customers don't utilize a lot of the even the legal street parking on Malberry Street in particular cuz it's just um very unsafe. Uh there was only one business that did express some concern about the impacts.
Uh but they do currently have some off- streetet parking and a lot of the parking that they are using currently is not legally permitted and tends to be a nuisance for uh the surrounding community as it is. And we also want to
highlight that this project is um included and aligns with the larger city of trends uh recently adopted bike plan. So, it's kind of a a two for one where we're getting to add some traffic calming measures to Malbury Street and North Glitton AB and also helping to add
some um bike infrastructure in the city of Tren. All right. Um I'm going to talk a little bit more specifically about parking since we know that I'm sure will be a major question. Um as we uh previously
stated, we don't anticipate there being major impacts on parking in the area. um in that picture. I think you all should have a copy too if you can't see it here. Um but um much of the parking on this stretch is already um not legal
parking. It is restricted under city and state code which is indicated in the orange highlighted areas on that image. Um and even the parking that is legal. You can see the biggest stretch is um in the portion of Mulbury Street across
from the Asen Creek and there are no longer any residential or commercial properties there. So so basically no one ever parks there for the most part. Um and removing these spaces we don't think will have a major impact. Um because as
stated before um even in areas where there is legal parking uh residents and customers who patronized businesses aren't parking there because it is it is quite dangerous. So our um ask to you this evening is to
um consider this presentation. Um the ordinance uh will be for zero parking anytime rule on Malberry Street and North Plane Avenue from Route 1 to uh to Orange Street. Um that we believe will
be on the October 21st agenda. Um and as Jen stated, we do have grant funding in place to make these improvements, but we won't be able to do that um if we can't get approval um from city council.
All right. Um, some of our next steps for this project, um, we are hosting another community engagement event to try to get, um, additional feedback from residents in the area. That will be on Saturday, October 18th from 12 to 300
p.m. It will be in the area right around the curve on Littleberry Street in St. Joe's AB in that uh, grassy area over there. And then again, the ordinance uh should be introduced in city council on October 21st and pending city council's
vote on November 6th. We hope to be able to start installing these improvements in early November. Um so thank you again for allowing us to present this evening. And at this point, we can I believe we can take any questions you might have.
>> Yes. So, I'm kind of going to open it up to council, but I just want to commend you all and thank you for all of the work that you continue to do. You are one of the one of the civic organizations who continue to engage consistently with those residents in
that area and you bringing this forth with solutions, not just coming to ask for something and then also securing the funding. Um, so I just want to say thank you for putting in the work and actually going in and talking to the president to make this happen before coming before
council. So I want I appreciate that. I know we may have questions. I want to open up council frisbee. So thank you madam president. I want to thank you council president to most of exactly what I was going to say. Um, a lot of folks come and they have issues, but
they all come with a solution. And I'm grateful that you came not only with the solution, but the funding that's really important had you did that. I also want to acknowledge the fact that you have um included the neighborhood. A lot of people want to come in and they want to tell us exactly what we need in our
community as opposed to asking us and allowing us to give our feedback, our input, and to do followup. So, um, I I like that. The only thing that I would um ask along with this is I love how you
have the markers and you have even given a an extension so that there's a buffer in between the cars and the bikes. I would like to see that also if possible as you go down where you showed the uh
yellow markers the curves um safety measures uh the reflection with the reflectors I believe that your page I'm not sure what your page seven um it would be great if we had those
little polls still in there and I say that only because we know that there are people who take curves hard and if the if a biker is in there and they don't see that curve until we'll see the biker until late um it could be something that becomes tragic. So I love everything
else outside of that. I love the buffers. I believe these are it looks like rumble strips that you also um have to make sure that folks are slowing down. But I am uh I I I I like what you've done. I appreciate you coming in and again I love that you visited all 26
homes and the businesses on that corridor as well to make sure that you got feedback and that you're giving dates for that you've given dates for all of it when we we what you need when we're going to vote and so on and so forth. So I like I I appreciate your diligence and all this and of course
your tees and dotting your eyes. Thank you. >> Thank you Councilwoman Feliciana. >> Thank you Council President Thank you for coming before us tonight. Certainly, the East Train Collaborative
does not disappoint again. And thank you for your diligence and your hard work. Um, y'all have been at this for a long time looking to uh revitalize your area and make things happen. And as council president said, you are one of those
associations that does the footwork, boots on the ground to make it happen. Um, and thank you. you have your various commuting, your committees and everything. Um, you're all about your business and we love it very very much. I like the fact that you said it's included in the bike plan. So, I guess
you deal with Wills Kinsley a lot. Very good to know that he's a part of what's going on. And of course, you spoke to Mr. Santoro who said that this is a okay to go. Um, I think it's great. Thank you for everything that you do and for
continuously looking to improve the area and for caring about where you are and the other people that are around. Thank you, >> Councilwoman Vice President Council Vice President. >> I was going to say start with Council
Member Williams, but thank you. Um, I want to echo the sentiments of my colleagues and commend you on your effort to create safe passage and bike routes and everything for the pedestrians and residents of the East Ward or it's North Ward, East Trend.
It always trips me up. Um, I only have one concern which you did touch on it a little bit earlier are the residents that are along Malberry Street that do park on um both sides of the street. right there. But it's like between
what is that? Clag and Brunick. There's a there's a stretch of houses over there on one of the screens you showed. So there's about a cluster of 8 to 10 houses. There are a few cars around that number that park right there. Are there
any alternative solutions for them to park elsewhere if you're going to eliminate the parking? So, I can tell you um right now when we went out there, we only spoke to one person in that direct area and she did say that some residents utilize the parking in the
evenings, but most of them have started using the side street parking. So, a lot of them will park on the side streets on Clag on Brunick. Um some of them are parking across the street on Clag and Brunick as well. So, um a lot of them are already doing that because their vehicles or their neighbors vehicles
have getting have gotten in already. Um, so I'd say that's the primary alternative. Um, now I think that we've, you know, found that residents are using it there. >> Okay. All right. And you say you only talked to one of them in that >> in in that small stretch. Yes.
>> Okay. Okay. I would like to see more feedback from those residents right there. there are a lot of renters, so they're pretty transient, so it may be hard to reach them. But if we can get a a better consensus of those residents, at least so that they're aware that this
is coming down the pike and moving through so that they know, you know, and it's not frustrating to them to have to find parking elsewhere. Some people really do like to park right in front of their house, but I think, you know, they may not give you too much push back
because of the danger of the area cuz it is a very tight space and it's a lot of truck traffic and a lot of speeding. I go that way a lot. So, yeah, I would not park there if I was a resident, but we have to make sure everybody is being considered. Yeah, we do plan on going
out again to fly her before our event and then hopefully we're able to speak to Zuma residents in that area on the 18th and get feedback. >> Awesome. Um, last question. Do you have any petitions signed from anyone in the area for this?
>> So, this didn't require public works and any of these things were on this and this to our knowledge and I think to his knowledge doesn't require petition signatures uh for it. I I wouldn't would I would definitely ask for a second opinion because I don't
think that's in good taste to not have a petition when you're changing traffic that's going to directly impact people's parking um situations especially since parking is like one of the number one issues in the city next to public safety. So yeah I you know maybe that's
something that we can inquire about. I don't want to hinder any part of this project. I would love to see it come to fruition, but as long as the right steps are taken and that's nothing critical against you, but just to make sure you do all your eyes and you cross all your tees. Thank you.
>> Thank you, CBP. That was a great question. Um, Councilwoman Williams, >> thank you. Um, so, uh, Kurt, uh, Jen, thank you for being here tonight. uh people working through etc del river you know deep versions like
that but you guys always do so much uh particular east and north and the whole city and it's so darn important and having this area have traffic coming it's going to be extremely important it's going to help save lives I believe over time uh the trucks are a whole
another issue that's going to get tougher as we get go along with development but having the bike lanes narrowing things and I know from talking to my constituents out there that they are very concerned uh paramount about speeding. How many of them lost side
view mirrors over on Malbury. Um so we'll do everything we can to hopefully make this community event a success. Uh I know the consensus out there is very strong and make this happen. And I know you've done all your homework and just as my colleague said just want to applaud you for doing that and going out
to talk to the community, coming back with solutions. Um, this is a home run. Uh, I wish we could clone uh what you do and take it to other parts of our city. Um, but it's an inspiration to have you come here, bring us a plan with the
timelines and everything else that's going to be in place and just please keep doing it as threatening. Thank you. >> Thank you, Councilwoman Frisbee. >> Yes. Um, thank you, Madam President. And it's just one other thing as I was
looking um I love again the the project the idea of if it is within your budget um to put the uh reflectors the paved reflectors on the ground as well um along um some of the paths like there it actually lights up uh the wave when
riders are on there and makes for uh just a more inviting space. Thank you. >> Thank you so much for being here this evening. We appreciate it. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you, city council. >> Mr. Garcia, we're going to move and go
back to the recognition. >> Certainly, Madame President. uh you if you'd like to introduce that recognition I'll go ahead and uh get the focus back onto the council with the computer. >> Thank you. So if we could ask uh Mr. Father Sander to come to the podium,
please. And anyone that would like to stand and support him, you can stand behind them if you like. I know some people wanted to speak, but we're not going to allow that because of for the sake of time, but I know you have some supporters here, so I wanted them to be with you.
So, we have on behalf of the Trent City Council a special recogn recognition honoring Mr. David Poppy Sanderson for his outstanding contributions in the field of athletic training and community service. David Poppy Sanderson has dedicated over 50 years of exempl
exemplary service as an athletic trainer for the Trenton Board of Education where he positively impacted the lives of countless students, families, athletes throughout his professional care, mentorship, commitment, and commitment to the students of Trenton and beyond.
Poppy, I want to say Poppy, sorry, it's spelled official on here, but Poppy pursued his academic journey at North Carolina at University and further advances its expertise in the University of Pennsylvania sports fellowship program under the guidance of Dr. Joe
Tour, becoming a licensed professional by the state board of medical examiners of New Jersey and is a proud member of the New Jersey Athletic Trainers Association. And whereas Poppy is also an accomplished entrepreneur as the founder and president of the Education Outwise
of All Sports Apparel, a company rooted in encouraging youth through athletic and educ athletics and education. Throughout his distinguished career, Mr. Sanderson has worked with the prestigious organizations and events including the NBA Players Association,
the Athletic Atlantic Basketball Association, the Prime Time Basketball Classic, and Professional Softball Association. His leadership and service has earned him over 30 honors, awards, and recognitions. There was a whole long list, and I didn't want to include them
all and read them all. We'll be here all night. I'm just honored that you allowed Trent City Council to be on the list. But a couple of them were recognitions included the NBA players association's top 100 camp 25 years of service award in 2019. The city of Trenton outstanding
contribution to sports fitness wellness award in 2015. Lifetime achievement award in 2015. The legacy of fatherhood award in 2012. A longtime service award 2012. The seed MLK drum major award in
2012. some of the many accomplishments that are a reflection to your national and local impact in the world of sports and athletic training. Now, therefore, it be resolved that the city of Trenton and city council recognize and honor David Poppy Sanderson for his lifetime
of service, dedication, and contributions to the athletic training, education, and positive imprint you continue to leave in the lives of so many here in our city of Trenton. We'll let you say a few words and if council wants to say anything really
quickly and then we'll take a picture. But if you want to say something first, we'll guide you. >> Anything? >> So So Pop, you got to turn the the mic on pop. Oh, okay. Yeah, I I thank you, Senator. I've been doing this for 50 years, and
I'm really appreciative to the city of Trenton and some of the things that I was able to bring back uh from all the camps that I've done and all the uh dignitaries that I met, you know, just so many over the years that I just can't even remember them all. and especially
being at Trick Central High School and and watching so many good athletes come through uh the high school and turning pro and coming back and giving back since recently uh Jr. Brown just came back for the San Francisco 49ers and we just had uh uh Phil Holland who was with
the Eagles so he signed the Eagles so he's with the Eagles right now. So uh those things uh they carry on but the most important thing is that they come back >> and we this is what we talk about all the time. It's not so much New York and I do sports medicine box. I do that I I
think very good. I was with the NBA for 30 years. So, um I think that what we talk about in the training room is is life lessons about coming back to the community, always giving back. We talked that with Troy Den. Of course, everybody knows Troy top
guy that lived right on Fairrest Avenue who's now number two man in the NFL. uh you can't get any better than that. But uh we talk about community service and and I'm really big on community service. So uh when I tell those guys when we sit down, we talk about what's the plan,
what are you going to do with your life, how are we moving forward, but come back and you're in the CNC through the city for the last I think 10 years. done doing the education ways law clinic at the high school and we this year last well this year we just passed by five we just had over 300 kids uh that
participated in the camp and along with four other professional athletes so I'm just going to continue to do that community continue to work with the community and I thank you for for this uh recognition thank you so much okay I'm going to Council of Louisiana.
>> Thank you, Council President. Congratulations, Poppy. We love you. Thank you for everything that you do each and every day. Thank you for the work that you've done. Thank you for the legacy that you've left. Thank you for loving on Trent. Thank you for loving on the kids. Thank you for allowing them to give back and for setting the standard
high, right? You set the bar high for others to look to come to do the things that you have done. Certainly, no one will ever be able to replace you in who you are, but that you aspire to get to where you have come to be. And we appreciate you. God bless you. And may
you have many more years to come. >> Oh, anyone else Williams? Uh, coach, I just want to say to you, no one can count the thousands of lives you saved, thousands of families you changed for the better, but thank you for everything you've done. Um, I know many high
schools, including my old high school, Firestone, would love to have Pat, uh, Poppy Sanders. Um, it's important what you've done in your life, but also I know as a coach you probably see what's more important is the lives that those athletes you've coached and you've been
a part of and who you've handled in the tape room of what they've gone on to do and that's a testament to you sir. So thank you and God bless. >> Thank you. So Mr. Poppy Sanders uh there's nothing more that needs to be said about you. I just want to personally suggest thank
you for moving in excellence for moving that in a way that we can push our chest out proud and say you belong to us and we belong to you. We are so grateful to have you here the city of Trenton and for they say the world uh Trenton makes and the world takes you are the epitome of just that. Um, but I love that you
plant the seeds that remind them to come back and to sew back here into their own community. And it is beautiful to see how several of those that have gone on to be in the professional fields have come back just with that in mind to come back into here. So, thank you for what
you do. Thank you for moving in. Thank you for being a part of our lives and for our children. You are the example that we need that our children need and we appreciate you for staying here because you could have gone any place else but we thank you. and we're grateful that you're safe here in the comments. Thank you, sir.
>> Thank you, >> CB. Hey, Poppy. >> Um, I want to say thank you. I don't want to be repetitive um with the rest of my colleagues, but I want to say thank you. Thank you as a former athlete myself. You weren't one of my coaches,
but you coached so many of my other friends. And I know as a former athlete how important it is for our coaches and our trainers. You're not just teaching us the sport. You're teaching us life skills that we will carry with us for the rest of our lives. And I want to say
thank you because my daughter, who is not athletically inclined at all, found her way into sports management and football. And I credit a lot to you cuz she loves you. She looks up to you. I couldn't get her involved in sports to to be an athlete in her
extracurriculars, but to see her actually enjoying being a sports manager on baseball and football and the way she admires you and talks about you all the time. I just want to say thank you from from athlete and a mother and a former student to train high as well cuz you
look exactly the same. I was there 20 years ago. >> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Welld deserved and well earned. Yeah, you do this with me every every day. She's great. Thank you. >> So, pop, we're going to get ready to take a picture, but I just want to say
um they don't make them like you no more. That is just that's just plain and simple. They don't um you along with, you know, got the greatest in the building. You all have put in 50 plus years. You've instilled so much in all of us. And I say us cuz me included. I'm
the you're one of the reasons why I came back to Trenton to teach and to coach and to do all those things. So, I just want to say I love you. you know how I feel about you still. Love you. You deserved it. This was an honor. He was the uh brand official for the homecoming parade and normally homecoming would have been this week and that was the
reason why um we chose to pick this day to recognize you. But you know we love you. You got a whole school people that wanted to come and support you and speak. So I know Freedom is in the building and it wanted to say a few words, but due to limited time we're going to let him say it to you personally.
>> We're going to take a quick photo down at the bottom. Okay. >> Thank you. Oh. Oh. Oh, my phone is good. I'm sorry. You It's okay. That's okay. Um, Poppy, I'm sorry. All meetings to have to miss. My son and I are under the weather and
I'm so sorry that this is a meeting that I cannot be there for. Um, I am I never would have thought that I would be sitting here 25 plus years after graduating from Trenton High and being able to honor so many people that are still in the high school and still doing amazing things or have been in the high
school for so long and doing amazing things. I can't count how many times that I sat in your sports center and either got in the hot tub or got a massage or whatever from soccer and softball and there's nobody more deserving. Um, you've done phenomenal work. You've been inspiration to so many
of us and I'm just honored um to be part of this council to be able to honor you tonight. So, congratulations. >> Thank you, >> Council Mayor. >> When you say the name Bobby Sanders, all over this state, they know you. Um you're a gift from God. Thank you for
all the lives you touched. The world is a better place because of Bobby Sanders. Thank you. Thank you. seconds. All right. This is very successful. Well, Got one more.
All right. Um, >> you can keep it if you want. >> Yes, ma'am. President on your call. Madam President, >> we can keep going. Um, okay. Public comment for agenda items. >> Yes, madam president. At this time, we've reached the point of public
comment for agenda items only. If I could have the clipboard for public comment for agenda items only, please. And it looks like security is not compliant. Hold on one second. >> And to the public, public comment for
agenda items only is if you have anything to address on the docket or agenda. Um if it is not a docket or agenda item, then you will wait for a public our regular public comment. Um, Madam President, we have three individuals listed for public comment for agenda items only and they have
listed the matters which they were going to which we'd like to speak in reference to. First individual is Frank Cusack. Again to the public public 5 minutes for each individual you may address it on the docket at this time and the council
is not obligated to respond. State your name and address for the record. Frank Cusack, 340 Thro Avenue, Hamilton, New Jersey. Uh, good evening, council president and council at large. Uh, my name is Frank Cusack. I'm a resident of
Hamilton, but I'm a proud employee of Mercer County and Trenton every day. Um, I am the founder of the Coalition of Healthy Water and the originator of the vote no confidence in Trenton City Council petition on change.org. I'm here
to discuss referendum 25-384 and 25-37E. Under 25-384, the ad hoc committee, uh, you are looking to create a subcommittee that oversees the issues at Tren Waterworks,
seated by three current city council members, the same city council that is currently in charge of the trend waterworks and where we find ourselves today. Uh, not to be blunt, I've been searching all day
for the nicest way to put this, but this honestly feels to the people of the service area, the blind, leading the blind. Under 25-378, you're looking to do another financial report. Um, I did have a comment uh on a
comment I made on Councilwoman Edwards on Facebook stating that a new assessment outside of the Rafelis study of the D's TMF N360 report needs to be completed to understand the full picture. The ref talis report stated two
that there is $230 million repair project that you are asking for maybe a 60% rate increase necessary but the train count city council for some reason does not know the valuation of assets or bonding capacity. Edwards also stated the assessment would
give us a full understanding of the capital improvements and staffing needs which Repellis and the D have already stated. Order under ordinance 25.375 there is a proposal from operation services for 6.6 million to complete
RFP2 uh 2025-23 that lays out staffing needs. With all that said, it is not lost on me or most people in the service area the optics of the state or a white guy from
Hamilton coming into Trenton telling the people of this city and the city council that there have been failures. This is a decade of old problem that we all know and we are now at a critical point and a crossroad. We could let
politics and rightfully placed distrust continue the status quo. Or we can realize there is an issue that contains border safety and border security for this generation and generations to come. I recently read somewhere that now more
than ever we must build strong communities and trusted networks. Not shallow ties but bonds forged in shared responsibility and proven trust. those of us that live in the service area outside of Trenton that we don't
have a choice of who to get our water from. It is trend water works. I have listened to many hours of meetings hearing cries from council members saying that the D is not offering help or support. I hear that
you are trying. I understand that this is hard, that there's a lot of red tape. There's a lot going on, but all I am asking is that you hear my voice and the voices of the 417 people who have signed my petition that we are asking for fair
representation and a seat at the table when it comes to our water utility. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Taylor. Hi, that's better. My name is Becky Taylor. Um, I am a resident of Triton.
moved here in 2017, but my history with Trekton goes back to when I was a reporter back in the day for the Tranonian covering city hall. Um, so I've had many, many years with Trenton and I love Trenton. Love, love it
totally. Um, my husband and I moved here in 2017. We live across the street from Cad Walder Park and I am now the co-chair of the Cadolder Park Alliance. And because I have such a passion for
walking, um a colleague of mine, um Tim Grill and I are co-chairing a um a program called Trek Walks. I hope you've all heard about it. Um we've had almost
60 walks since June of 2024. They are so fun and there's so many wonderful things you see about Trenton. The city has such a rich rich history and such beauty and a lot of people may not realize that.
The other reason we started Treon walks is because we want to better engage across the lines of Trenton and we're doing that. So I encourage all of you to come out for that. I have two very brief things to say about Trenton Waterworks.
Um I am um I'm I'm frankly um you know really worried about what I understand is going to happen in terms of the rate hikes and the disproportionate impact on the
people of Trenton because of their income uh visav the incomes of other towns in the county. And I I I just don't think that's right. I I think it's going to it's not going to be good. And I'm worried about that. The second thing is
I'm scared that it's, you know, based on everything I've read and all the things the independent um consultants have said about waterworks, this system could fail. And it sounds like it could fail at any time. I am very much worried
about all of our safety and all of our values, property values. So, I just ask you to be thinking carefully. Your jobs are so hard and I know they're you're torn in a million different ways, but let's make sure that we really do serve
the people of Trenton and the people of the rest of Mercer County. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Mark, is that Lington? >> It is. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Hi, Mark Lington. Uh my address is 105
Cavaler Drive. Um I also have another address that's more a little bit more relevant for tonight and that is uh trenchonworks.substack.com. It's a website that I've been managing for about 2 months now and I had 20,000
page impressions in two months. So, if you want a metric as to how much people are paying attention to this issue, I think that might be a good one to follow. Um, I actually prepared uh something to to discuss tonight and then I sat through the most wart heartwarming
presentation to Mr. Sanders. I don't don't feel the ability to call him Poppy. Um, and it reminded me how many times I've heard council, residents, and other people describe the waterworks as
our greatest asset. I I at the H2 Open meetings, we've heard folks from Trenton Waterworks called the crown jewel that's embedded in our identity. I I really think that our greatest asset are are the people like Mr. Sanders and and and
those people that have he has impacted. And I also want to transition that into the to the discussion that I wanted to have tonight with you all about the future of the waterworks. Um I'm happy to see the ad hoc committee finally get
its due time as an ordinance or or resolution. I'm not sure how you're doing it. Uh I first heard that discussion come up at this deis 10 months ago and here we are today as the mo the
hottest topic in in you know in in the city and it's taken us 10 months to get something on the docket. Looking back at September's meeting, it it was not until nine months after it was identified that the that there there's a hiring barrier
to the most critical positions in our water utility. There are I was looking at the TMF report in preparation for tonight. The average tenure of the engineering team at the waterworks I can put up one hand. In fact, it only takes
four fingers to describe the the longest tenure in the engineering department at the Trend Motorworks as of January 2024. Four years. Go back 10 years. That number was 10 times that. There were people working here for 40 and 50 years
with dedication like Mr. Sanders had to the cause. This is the area that focus needs to be given and I look forward to this ad hoc committee taking the time to address that barrier. In fact, I would I'm looking forward to the day that I
see action on revisiting the salaries that we are paying these individuals. They are pathetic. And I don't say that lightly. There are people in technical positions in the water department earning $45,000 a year.
You know how many people in the water department make over a h 100,000? I found two. You know how many people in city hall make over $100,000? Ask for the numbers. The only way that these people are making any the ability to to to ek out a living at the Trent
water department is through endless overtime hours. Please, this ad hoc committee, ask the finance, ask personnel to give you an average number of overtime hours being worked by these individuals and ask yourselves if you would put in those hours for that little
pay. That is the issue that all of this comes back to. If we create a vin diagram of all of the issues that are facing the water department, the commonality of every one of them is the ability to perform. It is not the ability to raise money. It is not the ability to test assets. It is the
ability to take these resources, turn them into projects, and create a stable and reliable water system. With that, I thank you. >> Thank you, >> Madam President. Those are all the individuals that I have for public comment for agenda items only at this
time. And if it's your wish list, you would like to uh ask for a motion to approve communications, petitions, and reports. >> Yes. May we have a motion to approve communications, petitions, and reports? So moved. >> Second.
>> We got a roll call. Vice President Edwards, >> yes. >> Counciloman Feliciano, >> yes. Councilwoman Figurero Keer. >> I heard a yes, I believe. Correct. >> Yes. >> Thank you. And Councilwoman Prisman,
>> yes. >> Councilman Harrison, >> yes. >> Councilwoman Williams, >> yes. >> Council President Gonzalez, >> yes. >> Motion carried. And moving on, Madam President, to this um ordinances for second reading
and public hearing. Uh beginning with ordinance 25-107 and just to the public and I'll retala ask for administration to confirm ordinance 25108 is pulled. Correct.
>> Yes, Mr. Clark. That is correct. >> Thank you very much. Moving on again back to 25-107. Ordinance authorizing the sale of city-owned property commonly known as 83 Oak Street and identified on the city tax was block 1803 lot 93
pursuant to NJSA 4A1213C to M&B Real Estate S LLC before the sale price of $10,000. Are there any members of the public that wish to speak to this ordinance at this time? Seeing none, madam president, do you
want to ask for a motion to approve? >> We have a motion to approve. 25107. Second. >> Thank you. Roll call. Vice President Edwards. >> Yes. >> Counciloman Fiana.
Counciloman Figuro Edenberg. >> Noted. Counciloman Frisbee. >> Yes. Councilman Harrison, >> yes. >> Councilwoman Williams, >> yes. >> And Council President Gonzalez,
>> yes. >> Motion carried. Thank you, >> Council President. >> Council. >> Thank you. Just a quick question. Why Why did they pull 25108? >> Is it you or I I think as you pointed out, council
woman, there was a conflict between another ordinance that had been passed earlier and the property that was being conveyed with 108. We need to fix the earlier ordinance before we can it versus this one. >> Okay. Thank you. Appreciate that.
>> Thank you. >> On your call, Madam President. >> Um, >> thank you. Ordinance 25-109. Ordinance authorizing sale of city own property commonly known as 43 Southern Street identified on the city tax as
block 1101 lot 8 pursuant to NJSA 481213 B5 to Hattie Q Wilson for the sale price of $1,950. Are there any members of the public that wish to speak for this ordinance at this time? Seeing none, Madam President, if you want to ask for a motion to approve.
May I have a motion to approve 125 109? So move. >> Second. >> Thank you. Roll call. Vice President Edwards. >> Yes. >> Counciloman Feliciano. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Figuro Kevin B. >> A.
>> Abstain. Noted. Uh, Councilwoman Frisbee. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Councilman Harrison. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Williams. >> Yes. Council President Gonzalez. >> Yes.
>> Motion carried. Ordinance 25-110, Ordinance authorizing the sale of city own property commonly known as 157 Rosemont Avenue identified on the city tax maps block 5802 lot 22 pursuant to
NJSA 48 1213C to Garland Barber for the sale price of $5,000. Are there any members of the public wish to speak at this time? Seeing none mad present want to ask for a motion to approve. >> May I have a motion to approve 2510?
So move. >> Thank you. Roll call. Vice President Edwards. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Ficiano. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Figurero Keer. >> Councilwoman Frisbee. >> Yes.
>> Councilman Harrison. >> Yes. Counciloman Williams. >> Yes. >> Council President Gonzalez, >> yes. >> Motion carried. Thank you. >> And Madam President, that brings us to resolutions at this time. Are there any resolutions that you or the council
wishes to extract for questions or for from a from a possible consent agenda? >> Council President. >> Thank you. 2579. Uh 365 366
373. >> Anyone else present? Uh 25 384 25378 25361 and that is it ma'am. Okay.
Madam President also um like to question uh 384 378 and 361. >> Okay. That's it. >> Yes. >> Same thing. Same thing as CVB. Same. Got
it. All right. Go to this light. Uh 384, Mr. Garcia. I mean, I'm sorry. Um 384 is uh Councilwoman Williams and Councilman Frisbee. >> Yes. >> Thank you very much. Um and I think uh
Councilman Harrison, did you also have a question? >> Oh, sorry. Yes, Mr. Harrison. >> Michelle won't take up much time. So I have some concerns uh regarding this uh council president particularly the second paragraph where it says whereas the city of Trenton runs and operates
waterworks a regional public water utility providing essential water service to the residents of Trenton and several neighboring municipalities. Uh in my opinion we are not a regional public water utility. We're a municipal public water utility solely owned by the
city of T. So, I'd like to know uh the origination of this wording and what the intent is. Uh I also have a concern with creating an ad hoc committee uh with three council members out of seven cuz I think
that leaves a lot of room for you know potential uh information to not be shared at the same time with the council. I thought as you know notorious or infamous or famous uh our session our
meeting with commissioner laurev was I do think it was very good to have all seven of us um discussing this issue and asking questions at the same time so I'm wondering how this would work and function uh is such a big issue we're
talking about an asset that could be potentially worth you know it is worth hundreds of millions of dollars and how that would go forth over the next year or so. >> So, both those are my questions. >> The the um the originator is council
vice president Edwards. So, I'll let her respond. >> Thank you, Council. Thank you, C. Um I want to say that number one, that was not supposed to be in there. I didn't draft this myself. our attorney did and
that was um this was supposed to be changed around operating a public utility that services the region was the correct language that was supposed to be in here in addition to the misspelling of my last name on the presentation Mr.
clerk. Um, but I just want to explain the intent behind this ad hoc committee. Number one, yes, we are a body or we are a governing body of the whole for the city, all seven of us, but ad hoc committees are helpful for us to
minimize council, right? So, there's things called sunshine laws where we if we have more than three council members, then the public is required to be notified. they're required to be included. Public comment, civic comment, what have you. It kind of slows down the
process when we have a lot of council members in the meeting because of that. And being able to get all seven of us or at least to reach a quorum for a special meeting to deliberate or go over or work on these things creates a lot of it. It
it just drags it out and past the timely manner. So that for the sake of addressing this timely because I did try to form this ad hoc committee back at the beginning of the year to address the waterworks issues which I feel like in my professional opinion we could have
been a little bit further along had we done this because we would have been able to meet with the commissioner earlier in the year. we would have been able to work with the administration more thoroughly and and been a little bit more progressing and progress along
further than where we are now. But because we could not reach an agreement at the beginning of the year, this is why we're just now seeing this in the month of October when I proposed this in January. I propose this because of the quarum issues, because of the time that
it takes to do special meetings and I want to respect everyone's time to miss counsel as well as the public. Right? So if we're doing the special meeting that requires us to miss classes, miss work, miss family, miss all these things. Whereas if we can do an ad hoc
committee, maybe we can do it on a lunch hour. We don't have to wait for all seven of us to do it in the evening and then the public is going to be involved. the public will know. Every council member that is not on this ad hoc committee will know what's going on. This ad hoc committee as similar or
exactly the same as the other ones we passed in the beginning of the year will require for um it to be reported out to the rest of the council. We will be reaching out to the rest of the council um those that will be on the committee if this passes to collect your consisted
of what your suggestions are, your recommendations, your concerns. Make sure you're in the know on what the DP commissioner or DP is saying in general or what the administration is saying. Whatever comes out of that meeting, you will know and you will know beforehand
what that meeting is going to be about. Notes will be provided. And so I don't feel like creating an ad hoc committee is eliminating anyone else on council. It's just for the sake of progress. The gentleman that just spoke at the public
comment just a few minutes ago highlighted the slow progress that we have been making on here. So this was done with the intent for me to kind of speed things along so that we can address these issues in a more timely
manner. So, um I diverge if you guys >> Okay. I just I just have a followup. I'm very concerned particularly since the uh commissioner Larrett has desired to meet with individual council members on it and to my knowledge he did. Um, and then
I understand at least some of the other municipalities and mayors have reached out to council members to try to reach out to them and speak with them one on- one, which I think puts them in a bad position, but also, you know, divide and
conquer is not something that's going to work for this. And I think we should be on guard about that. but also the intent of protecting the waterworks. We have to be given a chance in my opinion to save the waterworks. And I think that can be done, but also in
order to do it, we shouldn't be in a rush to solve this problem. We should be deliberate. We should take our time, make sure it's done right, because we have to correct it. true or not, according to what's in that report, violations and issues and
concerns since the 1970s. And one of the things that was brought up in the past was the summer of 1975 when there was an issue with water in a city and overflow. And I remember that as a young child and we thought it was fun to go running around in the alleys and overflow. We
didn't know any better. But at that point, decisions were made to have a border works, to try to keep it going, to bandaid it, whatever it was. This is our opportunity to fix it. When we saved the waterworks in 2010, that was a
community effort. I I know you know that history quite well, too. And this is something we shouldn't let uh other municipalities try to push us to make a quick decision. And while I respect what you're trying to do here, I don't think in this case
in this scenario, it's the appropriate form for our council to move forth with this. And I think we can save this water works as a team, as a seven a seven member team, not an ad hoc committee respectfully.
So um thank you. Um, so not to like go back and forth or anything, but I just want to provide clarity that myself being a presenter of this idea to create an ad hoc committee. I'm all in for
keeping Trenton Waterworks 100% owned by this city. No one that I have talked to um that I would like to be on this ad hop committee with me has any interest in selling waterworks or has any interest of doing a regionalization,
privatization or any matter at all and any decision that is going to happen will be voted on by all seven of us. No one in this ad hoc committee is going to make any decisions on behalf of council without the entire council. This is just
to like I said like well like you said perfectly said divide and conquer just because for the sake of time and progress. We do have other ad hoc committees. We did have Kingsbury for more than two years where we were
meeting bi-weekly with them. We also have an HD h ad hoc committee which council woman you sit on both of those ad hoc committees with myself and and councilwoman Feliciano and Councilwoman Frisbe on both of those committees. So
those work and we keep the rest of the council informed. No decision was made on behalf of this council without the inclusion of the council and no one was excluded at all. Not the public, not the council, not the administration. We work
together very well, might I add, and I think this ad hoc committee could work just as well, if not even better, than the ones that we have. So, I I would hope that you would put um some trust in your colleagues to represent your
concerns and your suggestions as well if you're not one of the ad pop committee members and um and trust that we will represent you properly in our city as well. >> Thank you, ma'am. And I respectfully I I don't think it's a matter of trust. I think this is a different animal. When
we're talking about development projects such as Kingsbury and such as like HG projects, that's not a utility. That's not something that provides something which to me is a human right, which is the access to clean water and that to me is not the same. But I respect your
opinion. >> Councilwoman Frisbee. Thank you, Madam President. So, I concur on many levels with the council, my colleague Councilwoman Williams. I don't want to feel that we're rushing into anything. And um I also agree with the
gentleman said, "Yes, our community, our scientists are underpaid. They are qualified and certified, but yet uh they we are not allowed to raise their salaries." Um, so that that has nothing to do with what we our our will, but it
is um where we are right now. I'm not sure how much input um Commissioner Lret has in this, but I don't want it to be that we are um putting people on the ad hoc committee
when it comes to our waterworks who he deems should be on there. I believe that there are several of us who are not on ad hoc committees at all. And those are the individual individuals if this ad hoc committee were to be formed. I believe they should be granted the
opportunity to sit on this um on this committee. Some of us are already on several of them. I think others should have the opportunity um to be on the ad hoc commission committee. Um, yeah, the I I'm I'm the the phrase
divide and conquer that keeps ringing with me as well in this. I I'm I'm I'm on the fence with it. I believe it could work. It might it might not work. And I believe that what we do collectively as a um as a council, we do we do well. Um
we stand on our grounds. We have our discussions. We have the disagreements and then we come back together. Um, but this is something that we have been talking about for some time right now and I just want us to not feel rushed. I don't want the community to feel that we're rushed. This is um our utility.
This is ours. This is Trenton. Yes, we service everyone else, but this belongs to Trenton and I want to I will stand firm on that. I take it personally. It is the Trenton Waterworks and we provide the services to the other
municipalities. So, I would want to uh revisit this again and then go from there. Thank you, Council President, if I could. >> Yeah. And Harrison wants to do a good job. Council Harrison, she wanted to
stay for CVP. >> Thank you. Um I just wanted to address that. Thank you, Councilwoman Frisbee and Williams as well. again. Um, I just wanted to say before um, Council Councilman Harrison speaks, no one put
me up to this. No, not a single mayor, not our mayor, not any other mayor, not the D commissioner, no one. I come from Congress where the structure is committees. I come from a state, the
structure has committees. before things even make it to the docket, they go through committees. Before they get um to Congress on the docket, they go through committees. The committees have to approve things and come out of that. That's not the structure I'm trying to create here. Exactly. But it's just us
having a proper structure that will help us to be more productive and progressive in our resolutions as we are moving along and dealing with these different entities and dealing with these different people. um to get our water
works and get any type of um situation up to par with this city. So, yes, um like there are some council members that are not on any ad hoc committees at the moment, but there are opportunities for us to rotate. Nothing is permanent. And
um to that point, Council President Gonzalez is not on either of those ad hoc committees, but I asked her to be on this one so she has that opportunity. Councilman Harrison is not on one, but he has an opportunity. Either one of you can always form an ad hoc committee for
any pressing issues that you see fit to address um that you would like to have collective power from your colleagues to do. So for me, I'm just taking the initiative to try to get more organized because quite frankly, that meeting
where the commissioner came here was not that productive. We got a lot of information but I don't feel like it was a very productive conversation. Um I don't feel like we reached any resolutions from that conversation at all and that is the purpose of me revisiting the ad hoc committee s uh
recommendation to you all. But like I said it was this was not supposed to say a regional public order utility and I will have that language changed. >> Councilman Harrison. Um
my question is this. Um I was told that there was a meeting that happened yesterday regarding certain council members and the D commissioner. Um what happened in that meeting? >> So that I was going to bring that meeting that up. I was waiting for the next resolution since we started with
the ad hoc. But there was a meeting that was held yesterday with the D commissioner, with myself, council vice president, councilwoman Feliciano, the mayor, our attorneys um in discussion with um some ideas that obviously he's trying to put forth. Um we clearly
stated that there's things that we wanted to do as a collective whole council. We all decided that we would say no to the regionalization that he was proposing the day that he came here in front of council. But we wanted to show that we were doing something and
that something was agreed upon that we would want to do an assessment. We expressed that to him yesterday. I know Councilwoman Feliciano and Councilwoman uh council vice president have drafted other ideas or avenues that we can possibly consider. Um which is going to
be discussed coming up. Clearly those are the questions that are going to be asked. So just to give a backstory on that that was that was the the meeting. Um it was not initiated by myself. I think the uh meeting he reached out to council vice president and the mayor and
that's how this meeting came about. Um so that was I was going to say that publicly um so no one thinks that there was any anything done behind the scenes and I did communicate that to all the council so all the council was aware that this meeting occurred and I tried to have a
conversation so everyone knew what happened. Um and from that we did come up with if if we were to do an assessment who would be paying for it who would be fulfill all of those kind of discussions were talked about at that meeting. Um I was very clear that
Trenton Woodworks and Trenton Woodworks I don't want to do anything that looks like a regionalization any type of wording any type of anything that says regionalization point blank period. Um, I know council vice president and councilwoman Feliciano may want to address their opinions on what happened at the meeting, but for the gist of it,
that's what occurred. Um, Council President, >> Council Vice President, thank you. Yes, thank you. Um that was a perfect setup into exactly um what I was going to get to my case and point of having an ad hoc
committee because the meeting that we had yesterday with the D commissioner was a very very informative and productive meeting in which solutions were recommended from that meeting which are um doing the assessment in which I
believe that most of council agrees to do not doing an assessment based on the predetermined outcome of doing a regional authority, but doing a financial assessment of our waterworks to determine
how much we can afford to take out in bonds to address the repairs and things like that. I know people have a lot of questions about the different reports and things. He explained what the different reports were to us. He explained what the assessment was to us
or is to us and the outcomes of the assessment, the possibilities. Now, doing an assessment, we agreed that we're if we were to do an assessment, it would not be based on a predetermined outcome like regalization.
We're not going to be forced to just pursue this one avenue. We need to see what is going on with Trans Border Works financially first. Yes, we had the TMF report which the purpose of that was about compliance and capacity. It was
about the managerial. It was a financial overview. It told us the scope of how much the repairs could cost, but it didn't tell us um itemized what needed to be repaired, how much each one would be. The capital improvement plan was not
entailed in that our outstanding debts, the revenues owed to us, whether debts can be consolidated to free up more bonding power to be able to take out more bonds for this utility to be able to address the infrastructural needs
that D describes is on the brink of catastrophic failure. We want to address that. The 360 report was about performance monitoring from the state. So this comprehensive financial assessment that a lot of people deem not
necessary because there were reports already done that is not true. Those reports were not a a fiscal analysis of Trenton Waterworks. They were they were the compliance and capacity analysis. They were a state performance monitoring
analysis and the scope of that was about holistic system systemic performance. It was about technical managerial financial overview. But it was not about a strategic financial planning. No, we do not know the valuation of this asset
called Trend Waterworks because the administration who is supposed to know these things does not know them. So we are doing this and the next resolution that you'll see is a resolution of support urging the administration to do this assessment which includes
evaluation of assets. When we talked in the meeting yesterday with the DP commissioner, we were talking about what exactly this assessment is, not just shoving it down our throats, not sending us a letter and giving us a deadline on on when we're supposed to pass a
resolution. We're not going to be told what to do. We need to be able to understand the full scope of the issue so that we can make an educated decision collectively. However, I believe that the ad hoc committee
could accomplish what we accomplished yesterday, which was a more progressive, productive conversation. And um and I don't say that to how do I say to
eliminate any other council member to insult anyone else's intelligent on council that won't be on the ad hoc committee because unfortunately we can only have three due to sunshine laws. So we talked about that stuff yesterday. We talked about um the RFP that the D had
put out and um to assess originalization. We did not agree with that and we told him that. We echoed the sentiments of all of you of the community as well. We understand the community does not want regionalization.
This council does not want regionalization nor do we want privatization. But what are our options? We do not have that answered as of yet. That assessment will tell us what our options are and then council will be able to vote on that. So, we weren't
trying to sneak and have a meeting or anything like that. It was just the follow up from the meeting that we had back in August so that we can determine what the next steps are and bring that back to council and let you all know
what the next steps are. Council President, can I speak? >> Yes. I know Council Feliciano wasn't going to say that. Go ahead. >> Okay. So, we're voting tonight on the ad hoc committee, but yesterday was an ad hoc committee meeting, which we hadn't vote on yet. Switch
domains. Kind of smells like something don't smell right here. This is This doesn't make any sense to me. I just found out about this. So, it's kind of weird now that we're going to vote on this, but we had a meeting. Some of my colleagues had a meeting yesterday with
a ad hoc committee with the Director. Um, who's going to pay for this independent? Who's going to pay for it? >> So, the the outcome of the of the agreement was that this uh Department of Environment Protections would be footing the bill for this, not
>> right. So, the same B that says that we're catastrophic is going to pay for it to come back and say catastrophic. So, smell. This is This is a slow shape you've ever seen on I
If you live in this city, you better wake up cuz I'm telling you right now, you're going to take your right now. This >> Thank you, Miss Council Harrison. But just just I know council would like to say something um first before I say a
council. I was just going to say that um I was a part of that meeting and I have no intentions of doing anything fishy, smelly, whatever you want to call it. Um I was actually brought on to the meeting. I I I was taken back by us having a meeting. I'm not going to lie, part of the meeting. So I did attend
because I wanted to know what was going on and what was going to be discussed. Um Council President, >> yes, Councilman Feliciano, thank you and thank you to my council colleagues for expressing what it is that you have to say. So let us be clear about what
happened after the meeting with Lerek when he was here based on everything that happened that took place. Apparently the mayor sent a letter to Lerette wanting to have
a meeting. Council Vice President Embers sent her own separate correspondence to Lach Red based on whatever she wanted to say to him. Based upon their conversation, he said, "We'll have a
meeting." He said, "I'll meet with you. I'll meet with the mayor, but we'll have other council people if you like." I didn't know nothing about the meeting until I got the invitation to say, "Show up for the meeting." I asked what was this?
CBP said, "Look, we're going in conversation like for you to be there. If you can schedule it to be there, you're a council president." Okay. Individual meeting called by this council person. We go to the meeting. It
was a good interesting meeting. But I'm going to I'm going to touch on a couple of things real quick so we can we can wrap this together. Councilwoman Edwards did say before about an ad hoc committee when it came to water, when it came to police. Y'all
know she was ad hocing us out when it came um in the beginning of this Josie, I'm sorry, Councilwoman Edwards loves her ad hoc committees. That that is just what it is. Y'all know that she's been asking us for a minute. We can have one for this, this, that, and the third. And she did also mention water as well
during that time. Why it never came to fruition or why we never saw anything about it, I don't know that part. But now we're to the point here today where she's saying an ad hoc. The meeting yesterday was not an ad hoc committee meeting. It was a meeting that we were
invited to attend that was arranged by council vice president. So let us be clear about that. Let us be clear. I've never been shady and I'll never be. I never said that I was giving up Trenton Waterworks and I won't. You all know I
said something over there that said let us look into look to having the treated water utility authority based upon when I talked to the mayor what a year and a half two years ago and said to him we need to have some kind of advisory board
and bring the other municipalities to the table before the shift not to the point where it has hit okay vice President Edward said the train of border authority a peace.
She and I were on the same wavelength about bringing folks to the table but not giving anyone control except for the city of Trenton. Hence came forth the document that I created that circulated saying here's what the motor authorities
look like. Here's the breakdown right for all of us to look at it and see. So, I've never done anything behind anyone's back. Y'all have it. You have to You have to work. Mr. Colloji then said, "Let us move to do a resolution of
support because if that's what we want, then that way we're answering to the residents of the city of Trenton and to the other municipalities that we are looking into something that we were not sitting on our hands." That is the
intention of what is in front of you all tonight. That is the intention. Nothing shady, nothing out of the way. And no one can say that they didn't get anything in writing from me because I know we all did.
So the ad hoc, I'm not against it. I don't have to be on it. I I don't I don't have to be on it. I want the right thing for us to move forward. I'm not sure when you all found out that we went and met with Lere
yesterday. I apologize if you were not told timely, but that's not my charge to keep. So, communication is important. I don't think anyone did anything to be
nefarious. Anybody did anything to be to be sketchy or anything. It It just was a meeting. It happened. Here we are. I think maybe maybe if we had waited with these beyond
having a conversation fully about or however that could work cuz we all sat here and be in the room at the same time to have a conversation. If other conversations were had and then things were brought forward instead of now things could go a little bit differently
if you all agree with that. But no one's trying to pressure anyone into thing or anything or push. And Sean Lret didn't twist anyone's arm in the room. It was from my standpoint. Look, we're not with
the regionalization period. We understand studies and things have to be done either way for whatever we're going to do. The suggestion for the water authority for Trenton was put on the table.
D said they will pay for the comprehensive studies $3.9 million for that to be done. But this is council driven. This is councilled. It is Trenton. It is not D. That is all I have to submit about all
of these here. I I I I agree with the ad hoc committee. Unless we can be guided to a way that all of us can be together. Can we can we do an executive session or something where we can talk about this stuff? Y'all know how this go. One
minute we can talk, next minute we can't talk. If we can get clear guidance from legal or clear guidance from the clerk on what we can discuss and how we can do it, then let us make sense of this. But I am not for divide and conquer. I am
not for us going back and forth. I am not for us standing ununited on this issue. No one did anything to be funny. And again, I don't know when you were told about it. I'm sorry that you weren't told in a time in which you thought you should have been told. I
apologize for that. But that was no ill intent that was ever meant. >> I know we shouldn't assume. I thought y'all knew. Thank you. >> So, but I don't want to keep going back and forth about this whole issue. Um,
but I do want to state that yes, I did call Councilman, well, Councilman Harrison actually called me and I told him what was going on yesterday. So, I did inform him yesterday after the meeting had occurred. Yes. Um, and then I reached out to each council person
individually to let them know today everything that had was discussed at that meeting. So, I want to be clear about that. Um, going back and forth um with all of this, I know we said we're going to try to loop it all in together. Um, CVP, I know you had an idea, but I actually do want to try to see if we can
table all of this um until we have further discussion. Um, I don't, you know, there's certain things we agree with, there's certain things we don't agree with, and right now we don't need to go back and forth about most of the language in here, I guess, I
should say. Um, CBP, did you want to say something else? Yeah, I just wanted to say in closing, um, this definitely will be amended, um, with that that slight language reversal. That was definitely an error and oversight on my behalf when we were editing all of these resolutions
to get them ready for this evening. Um, this was a resolution that I again introduced at the beginning of the year and I did attempt to introduce it a month ago to council. um this before this meeting was ever even before I even
reached out to the commissioner before he scheduled anything and also when he reached out to us to schedule the meeting that happened yesterday was at short notice so we and there's a lot of rescheduling and figuring out what that
meeting was going to be about and everything like that. I reached out to him a few weeks after we had met in August to follow up with the meeting to thank him for coming here and to do my due diligence and research more into the TMF, more into the 360 and more into the
assessment that he was recommending that we have. I did that in August. He called me in September, 3 weeks later because he was busy as he told us when we were trying to get him in here in the first place that he would be traveling around the country. Now, fast forwarding to
September when he called me, he asked me and he told me that the mayor had reached out as well and he wanted my advice on whether he should invite counsel. And I said, "You absolutely should because it will um going forward
eliminate any confusion, any lapses of communication so that we're not getting secondhand information. So, we're getting firsthand information. And if we were to keep working with the commissioner and D in general, we will always have to do that in groups of
seven and have special meeting after special meeting or have them come in here and then our meetings are extremely long. So we wanted to just have an hour just get to the point narrow it down. What is this assessment and can it be from a point where it's generic and not
with the end result of regionalization? Once we got that answer which we achieved yesterday, who is going to pay for it? He said if we agreed to do an assessment, not the regionalization assessment, but in assessment that they would pay for it. And we have to move
now because this administration on a state level's last day is December 31st this year. We don't know who's going to get into this office next year. So that's why I suggested an ad hoc committee and and when he reached out to
me I said I said respectfully and respectively council president should be there and because it was my meeting I asked for I also asked for councilwoman Feliciano to be there because she used to work for Trenton Waterworks. She warned us about a lot of the internal
issues myself as a customer having a whole bunch of issues that she helped me with a few years ago when she was working there. I knew from a customer standpoint and as a representative of the city what the issues were externally. So with the two of us
combined and that doesn't negate any expertise or experience or knowledge that you all have that was who I asked to be there at the meeting so that we can avoid a sunshine you know cornrow and so that we can just have this
conversation. I and I'm I'm not saying this to be funny because this meeting had it was nothing to be funny, nefarious, try to cut you out or be sneaky or anything, but I am going to do my due diligence regardless. So whether that meeting happened collectively, it
was going to happen individually. I was going to pursue that meeting oneonone or with counsel, without counsel because I need to know I have to make an educated decision as well as the rest of you. So I want to be fully educated and knowledgeable about every single thing
that there has to do with training wars. So that was why I reached out. It wasn't to go rogue because everyone did agree to me collectively. We did that. Now I I finished or continued on my path of
educating myself and that was the full intent of me reaching out to him and and his intent to reach out to me was because he wanted to continue the progress. He may not be here next year.
We have less than three months for them to pay for this assessment. Otherwise, we are on our own. impact millions of dollars that we could use for the repairs rather than doing the assessment. Let them pay for it. But we have to agree to that. So that's what
that meeting was about. And so now we're bringing that to you guys today publicly at full disclosure and full transparency. And you all know I am very transparent to eight faults. So this is just full honesty. Councilman Harrison,
there was nothing funny or fishy about it at all. >> I think like I said year before, I said this in front of the commissioner, he was here for 5 and 1/2 years, never met with on previous council, right? So 5 and 1/2 years, he's been sitting there.
He meets now with us. Now he you set up a meeting with him that majority of us didn't find out after the fact. To me, this is his metal right. though I I know you're saying the administr the administration know I mean administration got invited but to me it
seems like this was not done with clarity where everybody on this council knew cuz to me I think if we're a body we should all have known about that meeting we didn't we so to me this doesn't sound right this just does not sound right you're right
you want to table this but at the end of the day it is it's called training woodworks not called anything else and I'm for Trent Woodwards. I believe in Jerry. I love Trent. Let me tell you what, Sean Simple has been busting his home over there and his wonderful staff trying to get the jobs done. So for
people every time you turn around kicking Sean's back in, it's ridiculous. It doesn't sit right with him. It just doesn't this this should have been done on the up and up. And now if I didn't bring it up or say something, would have anybody have known about this meeting? I
don't know who would. Council President Councilman Feliciano. >> Thank you. So again, Councilman Harrison, your your points and your feelings are
very valid. All your points are valid. I don't I don't shun anything that you're saying. And I'm not pointing fingers or anything. I'm stating the facts as as it is to be.
I with regard to having the meeting or going to the meeting and everyone being notified. You should have been notified. You should have been notified. >> Um, so I'm going to take that for right there as I didn't communicate that
before we met. So I would take that charge, but it wasn't my meeting that was called. >> Right. No. And so, Council President, thank you for cutting me off in the middle of my talking. Uh, that was not a personal attack on
anyone. It wasn't a personal attack on anyone. This is business we doing right here tonight. This ain't nothing personal. This is business. I don't know who was supposed to call who. I'm hearing now that you weren't called and told. I'm sorry that that did not
happen. It was not my meeting. I did not call. I told you how I found out about the meeting. When I got the notification, I'm asking what is going on with the meeting. Do I think that there was anything wrong with Councilwoman Edwards intent for her to
have her own conversation if that's what she wanted to do as a council woman? No. That's her business and that's her prerogative to go ahead and do that because she brought us into that to hear again. Should y'all have been notified about it? I guess at that point you should
have. And again, I'm sorry that that didn't happen. And that's how I have to leave that. I am for Trenton Waterworks. And when it comes to the water works, let us be very clear about this that waterworks has been having certain issues for a minute. Like Councilwoman
Ellison said, I have warned this council and I have warned this administration about the different things that were going on over there that I personally saw that I warned and said that things were not right when it came to the billing, when it came to those estimated readings, when it came to different
things that were going on when we all came here and everybody packed this council chamber the week after I had surgery to say y'all thought I was I was rising director simple so he would lose his job. But I wanted to ask are you on top of what's going on when it comes to what's happening at the UN Town Center
when rates were not appropriately charged and under the other council some things happened that didn't come forward where the rates for the meters weren't right and we weren't getting the proper revenues that we were supposed to get. I asked those questions to get clarity
so that we would all be aware when we made the decision about who was going to be next or what was going to happen that we were aware of what was happening. But a lot of people came in here saying stone Crystal because who do she think she is? I think I'm the council woman that warned all about this.
And so now here we are. I want the best for the city of Trenton. I've always wanted the best for the city of Trenton. I want the best for Trenton Waterworks. I've always wanted the best for Trenton Waterworks. We've made some good decisions on some things and on
some things we could have made some better ones. we move forward from here together. Again, I'm sorry y'all ain't get the call, but I that's all I have on it. Nobody did anything to be sneaky or anything like that. And I'm sorry that
you feel that way, Councilman. And and that's how I would have to leave that with you. I'm sorry that you feel that way. Council Council President, can we can we at least can we at least let the public know who was all in this meeting? Who was in the meeting? I just said that
>> all the me all the members who were there. Was anybody from T Waterworks there? >> No, it was our water attorney Mike Mr. Mike uh our water attorney. >> So we have a meeting about Trump works. We don't have our public water works director.
>> I mean that makes sense. >> Yeah, that was the mayor the mayor was in the mayor and council vice president are the two who scheduled this meeting. I was invited and uh council Feliciano was invited
at the meeting. The mayor did bring the water attorney with him present and then it was the D commissioner in the room. Um, I want a motion that we table 384, 378, 361. >> Oh, sorry. I didn't say you were here.
>> Until until the next meeting. >> Oh, you said motion to the next public meeting. >> Yes, madam president. That was moved by yourself and second by >> Williams. >> Williams. Thank you. And we'll say the
roll call. Vice President Evans, >> yes. >> Counciloman Feliciano, >> yes. >> Counciloman Fber, >> yes. >> Counciloman Frisbee, >> yes. >> Councilman Harrison, >> no. >> No. Councilwoman Williams, yes.
>> Council President Zad, >> yes. >> That motion carries. And that is for the collective of those resolutions to be tabled until the next public meeting. Correct. >> Next public meeting. Yes. And then we're on to 25 379. Councilwoman Feliciano.
>> Thank you, Council President. Um just a couple quick questions. Um on the on the um the second page of the memorandum under
financial fiscal impact, it says funding for such hires will be allocated from and then it says insert funding source example blah blah blah blah blah. What is the funding source for this? It's going to be dependent on where the project is going to be
council. So there will be some projects that may be funded by state grant money. There may be some projects that are funded from operating budget. Um and there may be some projects that are funded through federal grant money. You
know those are some examples. Um it's not an exhaustive list. >> Okay. So I think so I wasn't sure it it looked like because it was like insert funding source. I I think if we could say something like funding for such hires will be allocated from
the like the following examples, you know what I mean? Not in >> I think if we take out the insert funding source and again this is simply a memo for the benefit of council. >> It's not part of the resolution itself. >> Okay. Yeah. I just was curious about
that. And then um on page one of the memorandum of understanding itself where we have under purpose and scope the last uh paragraph says to the extent possible the trades council shall prioritize referrals of qualified union members who
are residents of the city of Trenton. Um I'd like if we take out to the extent possible and just say they shall prioritize referrals of qualified union members who are residents. I don't think we should say to the extent possible. I think we should say they shall do it. If
we're not if we we don't qualify, then we just don't qualify. >> Okay. I I understand what you're saying. I'll just we can play with that to make sure it works. >> And then letter D on page two again, the where possible. If we could strike that
and say the trades council shall prioritize referral of qualified union members who are Trenton residents, including apprentices, not the where possible. They're going to look to do that first. >> Um, >> as long as we understand that the terminology shall prioritize means that
if they're not available. >> That's right. I get it. No, I'm not. But I just don't like the way possible cuz that just leaves things open. Just the intent is that they're going to look at train first. They're going to prioritize it. And if it doesn't happen, then that's that's fine. It doesn't happen. Um, under
number four, administration and oversight. Who would the design be if not the Hed uh person? >> It could be an architect. It could be an engineer. Again, it's going to be dependent on what type of projects we
may be utilizing these direct tires for. Um and on the page three under seven miscellaneous number two it says that thisou represents the full and complete understanding of the parties and may only be modified in writing with formal
approval of both parties and I think that we should say an approval by city council. >> Uh you can check with Mr. Collier but I don't believe >> if we can I don't know if we can or not. The mayor's not permitted to do anything in writing without your permission. So, >> okay,
>> that's already a given, but >> Okay. So, Mr. Colloji, is that is that not right to ask for that? >> I'm sorry, Councilwoman. What's your precise question? >> On on page three of theou under number seven says that thisou the
second bullet, it says that they can change the between both parties. And I was saying in the approval of council is that not appropriate to to say >> appropriate to clarify. So if you're saying both parties obviously means the city of Trenton and the building trades
council but the city of Trenton council would be the body that we have to go through. >> Right. So I can say okay. >> Thank you. So Mr. Beach I'd like that added um in to say and with the approval of council.
Mr. Agreed. >> That's that's all I have on that. Um, council president that thank you. So, just the changing of the wording >> it well it can go to consent if they they're going to go ahead and do all the
changes that I'm asking for. So, do we agree to the changes, Mr. Be? >> Yes. >> Or should we table it until the the changes are made? I say we still vote on it. Yeah. You can
you change by tomorrow morning or no? >> Yes. >> Yeah. Copy just sends us the final copy. >> Council president. >> Yes. Council >> may I requested could we potentially change that um by uh tonight without
having to to forego that to tomorrow morning? Reason being it doesn't seem like it's a substantial change but I leave that interpretation. Mr. Cl or Mr. Gar who would amend it. That would be Miss Lee to amend it and make the corrections on that final product.
>> Corrections. >> Can we just make the changes now as an amendment and then vote on it? >> I'm sorry. So this is for this is for 362 >> 379. >> 379. I'm sorry. Okay. And you're trying to get amendments done now to this, >> right? She wants some language added and
be taken out. >> Language added and taken out. Then you would have to motion and uh recite that language. >> So wait a minute. So as I'm sorry, council president may >> So if we looking at what I'm asking for, if we go and we're working just on the
resolution itself right now, Mr. Garcia, 1 2 3 4 five. The fifth whereas. >> The fifth whereas we are striking the words to the extent possible.
>> The fifth where see to the extent possible. Right. >> To the extent possible. >> And we're starting with the trades council will utilize qualified union members who are residents of the city of Trenton as well as local right on all fronts. So your strength team
>> um wait so and then you're going to take out the word utilize. So you're going to say the trades council will prioritize >> yes prioritize using qualified union members
who are residents of the city of train acceptable. >> Thank you. So now is there a motion to amend as as we just explained? >> Um we have a motion to amend 370.
>> So second >> and that's a motion to amend the fifth whereas striking to the extent possible and swapping the word utilize for prioritize. >> Right. They will prioritize using >> right
>> qualify and then Mr. is going to change the wording on theou um discuss to match but I'm good with putting if we if we vote on this amendment I'm I'm good with >> okay so
>> a resolution like this >> I'm sorry my my apologies for that um so then we have a so we have a uh motion to amend the second I'll call the role president Evans
Mr. M. >> Yes. >> M. >> Council Luciano. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Figo Edward. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Fersby. >> Yes. >> Councilman Harris. >> Yes.
>> Councilwoman Williams. >> Yes. >> Council President Gonzalez. >> Yes. >> Motion carried to amend. And >> go on consent agenda. Did you want to go? Would that be on consent? >> Yes, that's fine. Yes. >> Consent. Okay. >> Thank you.
>> Consent as amended. >> Now we're on third 25 365. Councilman Feliciano and 366. >> Thank you. So, hey, assistant DH. >> Good evening, madam madam. >> Hello.
>> Um, just a a quick answer will suffice. When it comes to 1 2 3 4 5 6 the six whereas is on here the tax collector um recommends the extension through 93027
allowing allowing the lean holder to proceed to foreclosure action and get the final judgment in this extension asking me does the person that this h is happening to do they have the opportunity to save the home or keep if
they find the means to or are they entitly exed out of this alto together >> until the the uh final judgment. The property owner always has the opportunity to redeem. Uh though I
uh I'm sure the bankruptcy complicates the situation. So I can't speak in detail but absent that frustrating the process a property owner has until final judgment to redeem the the u situation.
Okay. Excuse me. Consent. Thank you for that. both just um and then uh 25366 that 62,824.99 what what's that what happened with that
per court order what happened with that if we could talk about it >> I would pref I I can give you some more detail I don't have all the detailed information on that judgment but I can have it produced by the tax collector in writing >> okay but the court determined that we
have to refund this money and we have documentation stating that. >> That's correct. >> Okay. Consent. Thank you, Mr. Chair. >> Of course. >> Um, I'm sorry, Madam President. First, um, I'm sorry, Mr. Pal, just one more
question. I'm going back to 365 the um, you're talking about foreclosures of windows and all that. Can we as a municipality can can we do an amendment of some sort where we
are going and I I'll call going above and beyond to extend to give the the owners of the of the properties that we're about to foreclose on more notice. Um, and I'm asking that because I know
that we have a lot of foreclosures that have been coming before us. We I personally have gotten countless countless uh telephone calls about folks who are just finding out about it. It might have been lost in the mail. It might have been a deceased family member. Um, and
it may have been sent out. We say we send out tax um notices that over and over again. Can is there a way of us when we know that we are about to foreclose on a property to send okay um we say all right this is the the final push we've sent out notices month after
the month the year to whatever it is when we know that we are about to can we put it in there where we say all right the month before we actually ought to go and select we do one final push to let the families know this is your final
opport your final chance there a lot of families that are losing generational wealth. I'll say generational history in homes because they it's my mom, it's my dad, it's whoever they were in there. They didn't
realize that this was going on or whatever or it might have been an oversight miss or or whatever. But I would like to see the residents of the city of Trent retain more of their homes instead of them going on for foreclosure block. um if at all possible. So that's
my question to you. Is there a way of us making some type of amendment? >> Uh I I don't think that there would be an amendment specifically. We it we provide as much notice as possible. Certainly a conversation that we can we
can engage in. Um, and I can certainly speak with the tax collector about providing more information both electronically or perhaps in some sort of town hall training uh situation to inform individuals of what they can do
if they're concerned about a family's property because it sounds like what you're from what you're saying, Councilwoman, perhaps the issue is that the address we have to notify these people is uh has changed and we're not aware of
Um because if we if we have the appropriate address on file, these individuals are receiving notices as you said month after month for a minimum of 2 years. Um I will note this particular
365 is not a city foreclosure. This is we uh when we assign a lean, we required that the lean holder foreclose within 2 years if they were going to forclose. That was part of our lean assignment. Um so this is a little bit of a different
situation. But in the situation in which the city is going to foreclose, um typically we don't foreclose upon any occupied properties, especially residential properties, but it is something we can continue to work on. And I will just encourage you and
encourage members of the public if they are aware of a property in the family um owned by perhaps a relative who passes away, the best bet is to reach out to the tax collector or the tax assessor's office and say, "Hey, you know, my
family member owned this property. They have passed away. what do I need to do to make sure that I can get notification properly, redeem any leans? Um because as I said, I I think if they're not getting noticed, the likelihood is that
we just don't know uh the proper communication, the proper address. We haven't been notified that the person we've been contacting is no longer able to receive that notification. So, one other question, do we send out certified
letters or notices with regard to foreclosure? And is that something that um we make sure that we have something signed for? So, there is an acknowledgement that there is actually um the a family member has been
notified. >> We typically it depends on on the situation. Most of our communication is not certified mail. Um but again uh we send an abundance of communication. So
it is I suspect in the cases where an individual has not received it, we we just don't we have not been notified that there has been a change of address and I just encourage council members and members of the public to be in contact
with the tax collector's office. Let them know, call email, whatever you need to do, come down to city hall and just let us know because we we don't have a way of finding that out. >> And I appreciate that. I just think if
we're doing a certified letter, that is the a good push to say that I really want to make sure that someone is notified. Again, I know we're doing business. The city is a a place of business, but I really want to make sure that we're doing our due diligence to help our residents
maintain their property or their loved ones property. Um because there are many times when uh a loved one passes and we the city don't know about it. Of course, um no one's going to notify us, at least not readily, but we can say we've done our due diligence. We did this, we did
this, we but at the very we sent out a certified letter and there's something that we can say is on file that someone signed for this so they know you have weeks or whatever it is a month before your property is about to be foreclosed on. It gives the family that one last
opportunity to, hey, I need to go pay attention to this, but they if it's a loved one that is deceased, they may not just be paying attention to the bills. But if you get something that is certified that let that that's an alarm that goes off as opposed to my mail that is just thrown, we should pay
attention to all of our mail that comes in. But I'm just trying to make sure that we are doing our due diligence to make sure that as many of our residents can maintain those properties as possible as opposed to others coming in and taking it up for pennies. Thank you.
That's all. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Madam President. You're welcome. Um 25-373 Councilman Feliciano. Thank you. Good evening council council president uh Sean simple director of warden so
good evening director um the second whereas it says we'll replace approximately 600 lead service lines in the city of train so now we're in train do you know the areas in train that we're looking to do with this
>> so this is the federal grant and it will cover the only ward that's exempted from this This was a south war in this that's because of the federal guidelines that we had to go through. >> So you doing 600 between the north, the east and west? >> Yes.
>> Okay. So will southborn stuff ever be done? >> Yes. They're next. We have >> but under a different we we our newborn will cover entire trend as a whole the entire city.
>> Okay. So this is northwest and east. Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. Consent, council president. >> Council, uh, Council Williams, >> thank you. I thank Councilwoman for asking this question earlier, but I just
wanted to expound on it. Um, do we have any leadline replacements that are I don't want to say repeats, but are doovers from before. because I know we had a controversy with that one company uh out of Newark that had issues, but this program has been going on so long
um particularly when residents had to still pay for this. I just wanted to see are we having to go back and fix any work that was done previously. >> So the D in conjunction with with uwards we did an assessment and D is
formulating which ones we need to go and investigate. So I'm waiting looking forward for that list from the D. And do you have any feel whether that's a long list or a short list or how what it's looking like? >> I don't think it'll be a long list. I don't think it much
sampling we have to do throughout the system. >> And did they give you a timeline on delivery of that list, sir? >> I'm hoping that we we I already meeting with the D just this week and we're hoping to have a result a response from them within the next couple of weeks
because we have to go do that investigation. >> Okay. Thank you. If I could ask if you could once you get an update if you could provide an update to city council on on the list how many orders we're looking at and where. >> Sure. >> Thank you very much. >> Okay.
>> And that was it for the resolutions. >> Okay, Madam President. And I didn't hear of any roll calls. Correct? >> No. So with that being said, Madam President, you want to ask for a motion to approve a consent agenda excluding
the items table? May we have a motion to approve the consent agenda consisting of 25 381 25 362 363 25 379 380 382 383
364 365 366 367 and 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377. >> So move. >> Second.
>> Roll call. Vice President Edwards. >> Yes. >> Counciloman Fisiano. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Vroy Genberg. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Frisbee. >> Yes. >> Councilman Harrison. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Williams. >> Yes.
>> Council President Gonzalez. >> Yes. >> Motion carried. Madam President, that brings us to ordinances for first reading and introduction. And just to note, there is a uh ordinance that's been provided to us uh as of recent on it is ordinance
25-m and we're going to number this 130. And I will go ahead and read that to you. Now, bond ordinance prov ordinance 25-130 or bond ordinance provided for phase 66 of
the lead service line replacement program in the Trenton waterwork service area by the city of Trenton in the county of Mercer state of New Jersey appropriating $20 million. Therefore, I'm authorizing the issuance of $20 million in bonds or notes to finance the
cost thereof. And I will recite that again once we get into this first reading ordinances. Starting with 25-068, ordinance amending chapter 20, peace and good order to require the hiring of offduty law enforcement services for
private gatherings within the city of Trenton consisting of 50 people or more. Um, Council President, if I may. >> Yes. >> Um, the administration is going to pull that. I understand there's going to be some discussion um and possible revisions to ask that one. Thank you. >> By administration.
>> Pulled by administration. Understood. >> Okay. Moving on to 25-11. Ordinance authorizing the sale of city own property commonly known as 2931 and 33 Garfield Avenue and identified on the
city tax as block 26804. lots 22 21 and 20 pursuant to NJSA 4A 1213B5 to G construction Contractors LLC for the sale price of $12,000. >> May I have a motion to approve?
>> So move second. >> Council President Councilwoman Feliciano. >> Thank you. This is just a general um blanket uh discussion for about all of these uh all of these properties, right?
Uh-huh. >> I had um sent in a a a message to administration just asking if excuse me if a comparison is done or
if there is a law kept of these LLC's and if any of their properties are that they may own already like have a tax lean or something against it so we can see what's going
on. I would like to see when we get these that we we know exactly what's going on with these LLC's um and the properties because as you know I mean I I know I kind of harp on it a little bit but we
keep selling these properties to these LLC's and and we have no clue who they are. As a matter of fact, um Mr. I'd like to know if it's possible to um put forth an ordinance that says that
when the LLC like when the people apply to buy properties or whatever, they have to disclose a contact person. Like there has to be an actual person that's listed because then from there, excuse me, we can even run them and see if they have
any tax leans against properties that they have. I just feel like we're doing this and I understand the administration wants to get the taxes on the rolls and all that sounds good, but it's a it's a whole slew of LLC's on here tonight and um I just I have some concerns about
this. We'll certainly look into the issue. Uh I don't have the answer here at the moment and we're also in an unusual situation because the whole city is now redevelopment zone >> and these properties are being sold under a different statutory mechanism
than the local lands and builders law. So we're going to have to take a look at that. >> Thank you sir. Thank you. Kevin Council Rober comment. >> Thank you CB. I appreciate it. Um, so really quickly before we go through
these, um, you know, I know I vote the same way and I have many questions about these ordinances, the property sales. I have not, um, been shy about my stance on it. I do appreciate having a conversation um you know with the administration
about this but my answers I I have I am not in agreement still with whatever this rubric is for these property sales um soever um I did send over after the conversation I did send
over with chief staff um you know what the zoning ordinance is currently for buildable lots in the city of Trenton Um, and just briefly, 2500 square ft is is a buildable lot for a single home that's not attached. 1,200 to 1,800 ft²
in the city of Trenton is a buildable lot for row homes in the city of Trenton. Having said that, some of these lots have multiple sizes, various sizes in multiple prices and whatever the roof is. Um, again, this does not make sense to me. Um I offered a suggestion of
maybe um you know um value of of whatever the housing value is um you know to accept um whatever the bid is from the person seeking the property whether it's a lot or a building or what have you um then to you know counter
offer with a percentage of what that face value um on that property is. Um again point where that is not that is not the case um after sending the zoning zoning ordinance um and what those lot
sizes are um again I don't feel comfortable in voting on these um any of these ordinances for sale of property again once again I am not against sale of properties I'm not against putting uh properties on the tax rules for the city of Trenton but I wanted to be fair and in so I just wanted to state that for
the record moving forward. Thank you. Thank you, Councilwoman. Counciloman Prisman. Thank you, Madam President. So, I just would like to uh add to what Councilwoman Feliciano said, and I've said this previously, and I'm just going to uh echo it again, that we also um I
would like for us to look into whether or not we can have the names that were previously used by some of these LLC's before who are changing their names to buy property and they have they're bad landlords in this community. So, can we
have that as well? Can we have that identified that um because I know of one company off the top of my head that has changed their name three times um have put little things on their truck to to make the change, but they're still doing business in the city. Um and they're
bad. They're they're not good for the city, but they leave people high and dry. They leave people in a hole. And we are not doing our community any uh due diligence when we well we're not doing our community any uh service when we're not doing our due diligence to make sure that we can identify these individuals
and make them make up um the ne necessary repairs from what they have previously done as opposed to going ahead and rewarding them with allowing them to to purchase more property. Council >> President Council Williams. >> Thank you. Uh just want to add one thing
and this isn't proprietary information. Uh we could also require any application listing of the president of the LLC, which I believe is standard uh by the Department of State in the state of New Jersey when you apply for an LLC, as well as the date the LLC was
established, which will help us create a uh chain and uh popcorn trail so we can keep track of who's who because often when, as we all know, everyone on this council I believe has spoken out about this that the we have LLC's has to
change names so frequently, particularly when you get in trouble. Um, so this would be a way for us to at least know who is the real person in charge of the LLC, this property, because when the storm comes, we need to know who to go
to. And we also need to know uh are they a fly by night or are they well established? So, I'd request humbly that those two items be added to the application, too. >> Thank you, Council President. Yeah, I was going to say really quick, if I'm not mistaken, I know that that discussion did come up earlier on in the
year and um I've had recent conversations um with the interim director at Vasquest and those questions are being asked where they are getting their actual information of the person that is applying and they put in most of these applications they do have um some
of the actual names of the people behind the LLC. Um, but that is something that I think we should talk when we try to draft this earlier on in the year. Um, or maybe even last year. I know it was like legalities with it, but that's
something I guess uh Mr. K can do some further research on cuz I think it is a great idea to make sure we get more information on those LLC's. >> Council President. >> Yes, Counciloman. >> Thank you. Also too to speak to Councilwoman Figueroa Catberg's point
about excuse me us measuring this out. Um if you'll all recall at prior meetings under the former AG director before we got the checklist and stuff. I did uh an analysis of the properties that were
there and looked at the lot sizes and the numbers that that showed their assess but really wasn't. It was something they pulled offline. I'm not sure. So, I looked at the lot sizes and saw the differences in in the assessment values and in what people were offering
and what we were doing and it made no rhyme or reason, right? So, we were able to get the checklist done to say do this so we can see. I do agree that we need to have some kind of scale of something like I asked for before. So, if it's a
25x 100 foot lot that the average assessment is, I don't know, $10,000. Let's just say that the people have to at least come in between 25 or 50%. like it needs to be a gauge across the board
so that whomever applies for it. We're not getting one person paying this, one person paying that, which is where all the questions and concerns were coming from. When we had some people who could get a a a driveway put by and they had
to pay a higher amount from somebody that bought a buildable lot that paid a lower amount. that there has to be some kind of of benchmark set so that we can feel comfortable as as we move forward and do this. So I I agree um again with
C councilwoman Figurero Katberg that it has to go back to the drawing board. Also, I think that I I'm hopeful that the administration is actually looking for a capable, competent HD director
that this in the process as well as the department so that we can have someone dedicated and devoted to look into all of this that would know how to do this and could go ahead and create a good system so we're not up in the air guessing back and forth. We're seeing
these numbers fluctuate and change in front of us. Thank you. >> Thank you, council vice president. >> Thank you. Um I just want to go back to an earlier suggestion and um and also let everyone know that I had asked
multiple times as early as last week as of today. These ordinances should go on an ad hoc committee agenda. That is the purpose of an ad hoc committee so that when these things are
brought to council those all these concerns that the entire council is expressing right now would have already been hashed out. I have requested from the administration multiple times to set up the next H meeting. We were given um
ample opportunity to the the acting director to you know get become acclimated with the department. Um and it has been some time now and a week ago at docket review I did um revisit that request to start having our HD ad hoc
committee meetings and for people that don't understand what an ad hoc committee meetings it's like a subcommittee but the way the Faulner act is written we are a whole committee so that we can't say subcommittee it prevents us from saying subcommittee so
we call them ad hoc committees so three of us could be on an ad hoc committee and work with the administration hand in hand to come with come up with a rubric to come up with a checklist a process that would would clearly uh state a step
by step of what we need from the people that are purchasing it whether it's from an LLC if it's been an LLC we want to know who the owners are we can determine that by simply requesting the formation that they got from the state when they filed for the EIN when they filed for their LLC you know from the IRS or from
the state of New Jersey or whatever they had um opened up their business and I do understand that people do like to buy properties in LLC and people do that because it takes the liability off of them personally.
>> So if someone trips and falls or has an accident on that property, their personal checking and savings accounts are not affected. That LLC is the one that is suing. So you are personally protected. That liability does not come on you. So I understand why we are
seeing the fluctuation of LLC's which could be someone who intends to live in the property or someone who intends to rent it or sell it. That is also determined on the application of what they intend to do when they purchase the property or or be considered to purchase
the property. So again case in point we need ad hoc forgiveness because we could have hashed this out. So, I would like to urge the administration to please set up the meeting so we can get back to business and help match this out.
>> Council President May heard on this >> council vice president. Um, I've never received any email from you requesting an ad hoc committee meeting. >> It was with BA Richardson during Dr. Shei asked. >> Yes. >> Okay. Apologies, but that's, you know, I'm the one who's been shephering these
through for the last 2 or 3 months, and I've never received any requests to meet with an ad hoc committee. As you know, Councilwoman Figurero can attest, I'm more than happy to sit down with whatever subcommittee, ad hoc committee,
whatever you want to call it, and work through these these issues with you. Um, you know, there is a pricing rubric. I'd rather not get into details of that in this meeting, but in closed door sessions, you know, as homes were
obviously abiding by the sunshine laws, I'm happy to go through how we're pricing. Now, I acknowledge what uh Councilwoman Figurero Kenberg said about the different sizes of lots for conforming and non-conforming. And
actually, after she sent me that email, I went to our planning department. In fact, there are four different ordinances depending on what part of the city they're in, what zoning they're in, and whether it's commercial or residential. So, all of that impacts um
what we've been trying to do with the rubric is make it much more streamlined. But, you know, and that's going to result in some of these quirks, let's call them. Um but, you know, it's not going to be a perfect system. We're not
going to be able to get a pricing rubric that gives you an immediate exact price for every property. You know, there's different factors that we're considering, how long it's been on the market, what condition it's in in
addition to some of these more objective factors. But again, you know, I'll welcome an opportunity to sit down with however many of you wish to sit down and go through how we are coming up with with the prices. We are um on the issue
of the LLC. We are requesting that they put a human person on there. Um, I do agree with Councilwoman Williams uh recommendation about having them have it be the officer
because anybody can make up the name. So, >> yes. >> But, um, thank you for all your suggestions and I'll I'll wait to hear from you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. I wanted to just finish my um comment. So, thank you. I did realize
that that it wasn't being communicated with you to set up these meetings. So, I will send you an email um sometime tonight or tomorrow to follow up with that request in formal writing with you because it has been requested multiple
times by the VA who was in our previous HB meeting. So, I thought that's who my communication since it never lapsed before. That was who I was continuing to communicate with. So, we'll definitely reach out to you to start scheduling. And we all each of us on the ad hoc
committee, Councilwoman Williams and Feliciano has requested for those to be consistent like bi-weekly. Um, while we're talking about it, Council Member Feliciano and I talked about having our Hed meetings bi-weekly ahead of docket
review. So if we can go over these wordes to make sure all the odds are dotted and the teams are crossed and then docket review, we make sure everything is fine to go on the docket. So if we can streamline that process, I think we'll be in a better position going forward and council member will
feel a lot better. >> It's not about feeling a lot better. It's about it's about having order. And I mean, I appreciate, you know, you wanting the ad hoc committee, then that's great. But this is probably the fourth or fifth meeting where I have um expressed my concern with these property
sales and rhyme or reason um how they do or do not make sense um and I've been asking and have been abstaining or voting no to them. So, you know, the this, you know, after committee being brought up now, whenever it was brought
up, that's fine and that's great. But at the same time, you know, you yourself have not abstained or voted no to any of these ordinances when it comes to the property sales. You know, when I have brought up serious concerns and if you guys can recall when we all first came
on council in 2022, I had issues with properties being sold on Lambertton Street and I brought up what a buildable lot is um you know, water contiguous properties, contingent properties owners being notified and being made aware. So
this is something across the board that you know we as council need to definitely um be paying attention to and you know I agree if an ad hoc committee is something that can um certify and and and make this process go smoother then
great. But, you know, again, this is something that I have been um repeatedly asking for, asking for more clarity and again abstaining my votes and voting no because it didn't feel right because across the board um it just does not
make sense. Thank you. Thank you, Council Piloman Kenberg. Um we're going to move to a vote, Mr. Garcia. Thank you, sir. >> I'm sorry. I'm sorry. >> We're ready to proceed.
>> Okay. >> So, moved by Harrison, second by Frisbee. >> Yes. >> Roll call. Vice President Edwards. >> Yes. >> Counciloman 251 111. >> Yes. Councilwoman Figuro Gettburg.
>> Noted. Councilwoman Frisbee, >> yes. >> Councilman Harrison, >> yes. >> Councilwoman Williams, >> yes. >> Council President Gonzalez, >> yes. >> Motion carried. Ordinance 25-112, ordinance authorizing the sale of city
own property commonly known as 106 North Stockton Street and identified on city tax as block 7203 block 7 pursuant to NJSA4A 1213C to KAA Real Estate LLC for the sale
price of $50,000. May I have a motion to approve? So moved. Second, >> council president. >> Thank you. So, I just want to be clear,
excuse me, and on the record that um I'll move for the the first reading in the intro. However, when it moves to the to the second reading and and the passing, things will not may not be the same if
we don't get some clarity in between when it comes to certain issues. So, I just want that put out there. I will move to have it read and introduced, but there has to be things that the administration is going to have to answer for us in between um for my vote
to be in the affirmative moving forward. Thank you. >> Yep. >> Roll call. Vice President Edwards. >> Yes. Again. >> Second. I'm sorry. >> Yes. >> Yes. Thank you. Uh, Counciloman Feliciano, >> yes.
>> Councilwoman Figuro Gber. >> Councilwoman Frisbee, >> yes. >> Councilman Harrison, >> yes. >> Councilwoman Williams, >> yes. >> Council President Gonzalez, >> yes. >> Motion carried. Ordinance 25-113, an ordinance authorizing the sale of city
own property commonly known as 4749 and 53 Wall Street and identified on the city tax matters block 1301 lot D29 30 and 31 pursuant to NJSA 48 1213C to
Elder J Sandova for the sale price of $15,000. May we have a motion to approve? Some move. Second. >> Roll call. Vice President Edwards. >> Yes. >> Counciloman Feliciano. >> Yes.
>> Counciloman Figurero Gber. >> State. >> Councilwoman Frisbee. >> Yes. >> Councilman Harrison. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Williams. >> Yes. >> Council President Gonzalez. >> Yes. >> Motion carry. Ordinance 25-114,
Ordinance authorizing the sale of city own property commonly known as 3343 and 57- 59 popular street and identified on city tax block 21403 lots 3540 and1 pursuant to NJSA 481
1213C to Jackson Properties LLC for the sale price of $40,000. May >> we have a motion to approve? So moved. Second council council >> I'm sorry just real quick
um on that one that we did um with the refunds or something like that was was I just want to check something real quick. Okay. So, that that that pop street that
that big amount to make sure it wasn't with this. Okay. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Garcia. >> Certainly. Vice President Edwards. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Felicia. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Figuro Camp.
it. Councilwoman Frisbee, >> yes. >> Councilman Harris, >> yes. >> Councilwoman Williams, >> yes. >> Council President Gonzalez, >> yes. >> Motion carried. Ordinance 20. Ordinance 25-115.
Ordinance authorizing the sale of city-owned property commonly known as 8 North Stockton Street, 79 Merchant Street and 8 Rear North Stockton Street, identified on the city tax is block 608
lots 1517 and 19 pursuers NJSA 48 1213C to AHG Realy 2 LLC for the sale price of $10,500. May we have a motion to approve? >> Still move. Second.
>> Roll call. Vice President Edwards. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Feliciano. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Figurero Gber. >> Councilwoman Frisbee. >> Yes. >> Councilman Harrison. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Williams.
>> Yes. >> Council President Gonzalez. >> Yes. >> Motion carried. Ordinance 25-116. Nor is authorizing the sale of city own property commonly known as 17 Fairrest Avenue and identified on the city tax
map as block 13101 lot 19 pursues NJSA 481213C to Shane West for the sale price of $12,500. >> May we have a motion to approve? So
move. Second. >> Roll call. Vice President Edwards. >> Yes. Council >> Feliciano. Yes. >> Councilwoman Figerero Kev. >> Same. >> Councilwoman Frisbee. >> Yes. >> Councilman Harrison. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Williams.
>> Yes. >> Council President Gonzalez. >> Yes. >> Motion carried. Ordinance 25-117. Ordinance authorizing the sale of city own property commonly known as 105 to 1070 State Street and identified on the
city tax map. This block 26601 lots 27 and 28 pursuance SA4812- 13C to Door Key Properties LLC for the sale price of $31,000. >> May I have a motion to approve?
>> So moved. >> Second. >> Roll call. Vice President Edwards. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Feliciano. >> Yes. Counciloman Figuro Cber. >> Abstain.
Council Councilwoman Frisbee. >> Yes. >> Councilman Harrison. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Williams. >> Yes. >> Council President Gonzalez. >> Yes. >> Motion carried. Ordinance 25-118. Ordinance authorizing sale on property commonly known as 113 West Indom Avenue
and identified on the city tax map as block 6801 lot 2 pursuant to NJSA 481213 B5 to Vanessa Jordan Hughes for the sale price of $3,000. >> May we have a motion to approve? So move
>> second. >> Roll call. Vice President Edwards. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Feliciano. Yes. >> Councilwoman Figo. >> Councilwoman Frisbee. >> Yes. >> Councilman Harrison. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Williams.
>> Yes. >> Council President Gonzalez. >> Yes. >> Motion carry. Ordinance 25-120. Ordinance authorizing the sale of city own property commonly known as 126 West Ingam Avenue and identified on the city tax map is block
8605 block 13 pursuant to NJSA 481213C to generate asset management for the sale price of $15,000. >> May we have a motion to approve? >> Motion second.
>> I'm sorry. There's a second. Thank you. Roll call. Councilwoman Edwards. >> Yes. >> Vice President Edwards. >> Councilwoman Feliciano. >> Yes. >> Counciloman Figuro Keer.
>> I'm saying. >> Councilwoman Frisbee. >> Yes. >> Councilman Harrison. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Williams. >> Yes. >> Council President Gonzalez. >> Yes. >> Motion carry. Ordinance 25-121. ordinance authorizing sale of city own
property commonly known as 828 and 8 and 830 Hwood Avenue. Identified on state tax map is block 31702 lots 9 and 10 pursuant to NJSA 4812-13C
to Victory Investment Group LLC for the sale price of $30,000. >> May I have a motion to approve? >> So moved. >> Second. >> Roll call. Vice President Edwards, >> yes. >> Councilwoman Feliciano, >> yes.
>> Councilwoman Figuro Cber, >> abstain. >> Councilwoman Frisbee, >> yes. >> Councilwoman Harrison, >> yes. >> Councilwoman Williams, >> yes. >> Council President Gonzalez, >> yes. >> Motion carry. Ordinance 25-122, an
ordinance authorizing the sale of city own property commonly known as 11:01 Division Street, 259 Elmer Street, and 830 East State Street identified on the city tax map as block 1902 lot.
Okay, that locker lot 15. Oh, excuse me. Block 1902. Block 15701. lot 44 and block 26301
lot 22 pursuant to NJSA 481213C to Chestnut Development LLC for the sale price of $42,000. >> Have a motion to approve. >> Second roll call. Vice President Emmers.
>> As Feliciano, >> yes. Councilwoman Figurero Keer. >> Same. >> Councilwoman Frisbee. >> Yes. >> Counciloman Harrison. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Williams. >> Yes. >> Council President Gonzalez. >> Yes.
>> Motion carry. Ordinance 25-123. Ordinance authorizes the sale of city- owned property commonly known as 499 Center Street, 32357 and 69 Jersey Street and identified on the city tax map as block 10504,
block 1, block 17401, blocks 401567 and 72.01 01 pursuant to NJSA 4A 1213C to Mass Properties LLC for the sale price of $14,000.
>> May we have a motion to approve? >> Second. >> Roll call. Vice President. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Felicia. >> Yes. >> Council for the girl Ed Penber. >> Councilwoman Frisbee. >> Yes. Councilman Harrison,
>> yes. >> Councilman Williams, >> yes. >> Council President Gonzalez, >> yes. >> Motion carry. Ordinance 25-124, Ordinance authorizing the sale of city own property commonly known as 4143
4547 and 64 North Olden Avenue and identified on the city tax maps block 26003, lot 6543, block 2685, lot 5, pursuant to NJSA 48
1213C to Golden Key Management LLC for the sale price of $25,000. >> May we have a motion to approve? >> Second. >> Who was the second? I'm sorry. >> Thank you. >> Vice President Edwards. Roll call. I'm
sorry. Vice President Edwards. >> Yes. Counciloman >> Feliciano. >> Yes. Councilwoman Fedora Kenberg. >> I see. Councilwoman, excuse me, Councilwoman Frisbee, >> yes.
>> Councilman Harrison, >> yes. >> Councilwoman Williams, >> yes. >> Council President Gonzalez, >> yes. >> Motion carried. Ordinance 25-125, ordinance authorizing the sale of city owned property commonly known as 617
Edgewood Avenue, identifying the state tax map as block 2601, lot 9 pursuant to NJSA 481 1213C to JR American Homes for the sale price of $22,000. >> We have a motion to approve
someone. >> Roll call. Vice President Edwards. >> Yes. >> Passion. Yes. >> Councilwoman Figo Keb Frisbee. >> Yes. >> Councilman Harrison.
>> Yes. >> Councilwoman Williams. >> Yes. >> Council President. >> Yes. >> Motion carried. >> Ordinance 25-126. Ordinance authorizes the sale of city-owned property commonly known as 20 East Ingram Avenue, 123
North Hermitage Avenue, 323 Second Street, 689 Southern Street, 484 West State Street, and identified on the city tax as block 8504, lot 18, block 2803,
lot 30, block 10503, lot 33, block 8506, lot 7, Block 2206, block 4, pursuant to NJSA 481213C to MG AG Developers LLC for
the sale price of $125,000. >> And we have a motion to approve. >> So roll call. Vice President Edwards. >> Yes. Counciloman Feliciano. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Figo.
Thank >> Councilwoman Frisbee. >> Yes. >> Councilman Harrison. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Williams. >> Yes. >> Council President Gonzalez. >> Yes. >> Ordinance 25-127.
Ordinance authorizing the sale of city-owned property commonly known as 122, excuse me, 1222 East State Street. identified on the city tax map as block 25902 lot 37 pursuant NJSA 481213C
to G construction Contractors LLC for the sale price of $20,000. >> We have a motion to approve. >> So move second. >> Roll call. Vice President Edwards. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Feliciano.
>> Yes. Councilwoman Figoro Keford, >> abstain. >> Councilwoman Fursby, >> yes. >> Councilman Harrison, >> yes. >> Councilwoman Williams, >> yes. >> Council President Gonzalez, >> yes. >> Motion carry. Ordinance 25-128,
ordinance establishing limitations and procedures for the acceptance of donations by city departments. >> May we have a motion to approve? So move. >> Second. Second. Council President, >> Councilwoman Williams.
>> Thank you, ma'am. Uh, just want to ask, I know there's um been some controversy regarding donations in the past. I wanted to see um if Mr. Cherry or Mr. beach uh could come up and kind of highlight uh this ordinance for public
consumption just to make sure cuz uh it I know this ordinance is uh meant to correct a lot of things but also make sure uh that you know whatever happened in the past uh we bring it to a good place. >> Thank you.
>> Yes. Uh thank you councilwoman. Uh just in summary, this this lays out the steps for any entity that would want to provide donations to the city of Trevor, how we would handle them, um the various cut
offs and and things of that nature so that we everyone is on the same page regarding what to do if an entity or an individual seeks to offer a donation of any kind to the city of Trenton. And as
you can see in section 4, we even talk about what the various values will trigger different uh sorts of of review or sorts of behavior. And I um just as a followup just because it wasn't, you know, plain and clear for
me. So if a um donor asks for a letter to confirm the donation for their tax purposes, is that something that we provide through this ordinance or what mechanism be? >> Uh so we are not a 501c3 or anything of that sort. So there should be no reason
that someone would need such a wonder. >> Thank you for clearing that up. I appreciate that. >> Thank you, ma'am. >> Thank you, Council President. >> Council member, >> thank you. So, I see we jumped from a penny to
$1,499.99 and then we moved 1,500 to 20,000. Um, and then city council doesn't get to approve anything until donations exceed 20,000. Um,
I think that a more realistic look at this, cuz the one to the 14,000 and then the 15 to 20 is is a is a a wide jump. if we went like a penny to maybe um even
$4,9.99 and then 5,000 to 20 and then add city council approval with that as well. Um I think I think that's that's a little more um
a little more realistic. If not that I mean if we leave it at the 14.99 and then the 1,500 to 20,000 then we need to add city council has to approve that as well. Think cuz the concern is well I know the concern for me is from the past actions
of things that were brought in and just council didn't know and and I'm glad that y'all are putting this into place now. That's good. Um but I just I just think that That's why I said if we went 5,000 to 20,000 and up, council would have
approval on it. Um, I'd be I'd be willing to say a penny to $4,9.99 if council were in agreement with that for the director. you're saying would be >> we we would just so I understand the
proposal we'd essentially be eliminating uh section 4 subsection B >> and section 4 subsection A to say one penny to $4,999.99 right
>> and then uh essentially editing se subsection C which would then become subsection B to say 5,000 and above, >> right? >> The administration doesn't have any particular objection to to those
amendments. Um, >> okay. So, one second these Oh, of course. >> So, um, council VP was saying leave the first one. She suggested leave the first one at a penny to $1,4.99 and then do the second one,500
to 5,000 and still add council approval for that. Right. So then we would go or just or just the the um Yeah. And then five Well, cuz I want city council approval on everything. But
that wasn't enough. This is this one. >> Council President, can c can council vice president speak to what she's proposing out loud. >> Sorry, I was just trying to keep up with what you were suggesting as well. So, uh, section C, uh, well, C under section
4 already has formal city council approval, but it that's when it exceeds 20. So, to your point with 5,000 and more, so if we amend C to say exceeding 5,000 or 4,999
and then B could go up to just $4,999. So, or is that where you want to have council approval as well up to 5,000 or you fine with it just with written from VA prior to acceptance? >> So, we leave the first one at the one to
the 1499. We move the second one to the 1,500 to 4,99. >> And then the last one 5,000 and 5,000. >> Yes. >> Madame President, if I may. >> Yes.
>> Uh this is also just first reading. So we we don't have to make these final decisions about this minutia tonight. we can have that conversation and and work out the details as we move forward between now and second reading. So, um I
don't want council members to feel like you're pressured to come up with those specific numbers here. We do have have the second between now and second reading to make those kinds of >> right. But I just wanted them to know my thoughts on it tonight. So, as we move forward, thank you for that. Of course,
we do have second reading, but I was just saying just to put it out there for our consideration. Um, that Thank you. Thank you, Council President. >> Thank you. >> And certainly, Vice President Edwards.
>> Yes. >> Counciloman Fisiano. >> Yes. >> Counciloman Figurero. >> Yes. Councilwoman Frisbee, >> yes. >> Councilman Harrison, >> yes. >> Councilwoman Williams, >> yes.
>> Council President Gonzalez, >> yes. >> Motion carry. Ordinance 25-129, ordinance amending article, Forgive me, my Roman numerals. XBI, what is that? >> 17.
>> Thank you. 17, right? >> Correct. >> Thank you. municipal assurance funds by providing for the meth for the method of appropriation thereto in accordance with NJSA 48 10 1 and sect to establish
limits of liability and use of funds. Oh, maybe our mot so moved. >> Roll call. Vice President Edwards. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Feliciano. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Figuro Ke.
>> Yes. >> Councilwoman Frisbee. >> Yes. >> Councilman Harrison. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Williams. >> Yes. >> Council President Gonzalez. >> Yes. >> Motion carried. We have 25
>> and you have 25-130 and that is bond ordinance ref for phase six of the lead service line replacement program in the Trenton water service area by the city of Trenton in the
county of Mercer state of New Jersey appropriating $20 million therefore and authorizing the issuance of $20 million in bonds or notes to finance the cost thereof. >> May we have a motion to approve? >> So move.
>> Second. >> Roll call. Vice President Edwards. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Feliciano. >> Yes. >> Counciloman Figuro Gber. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Frisbee. >> Yes. >> Council Harrison.
>> Yes. >> Councilwoman Williams. >> Yes. >> Council President Gonzalez. Motion carried. Thank you. And Madam President, I believe that is all we have at this time. If you can move on to
public comment. >> Yes. >> And to the public, public comment will be 5 minutes for each individual listed. Madam President, we have eight individuals listed for public comment this evening. Um the to the public again, five minutes for each individual.
You may address any matter that you wish. The council is not obligated to respond. First person listed is Larry Leu. Is Larry Leoo here? >> No. Victory is there. I'm a pet 19 Avenue who again is a
honor. Um I was uh serious for the record. I'm so sorry. >> 19 more than that and more m o r. I'm concerned with uh the columnist uh L
a Parker um the insult that uh he wrote in the papers about Mr. Harrison here. I think that was a call for uh Mr. Republic seems to straddle the fence when it comes to issues in trade in New
Jersey. Uh he his article comes out in maybe six or seven other publications and he seems to uh he calls himself a im immigration reformer activist and so
forth. But I see more that he's uh he observes and directly preach what he sees but never comes with a solution or an explanation why those conditions exist exist in our city training which
to me makes it seems that the city council is not doing their job where they're not putting so-called pressure on the departments to do their job and it comes out of the paper and uh the public comes
out and you know express their their views and uh I noticed also that there's a way of writing where you can like like the government I'm not a pleasure when he talks or he puts out information
it's do if you flip two or three words he'll tell you that uh the way he was writing the articles with Mr. Hamilton there that uh it made it seem that uh he made a racial issue as far as so far as I'm concerned when he said uh he was the
lone um wolf on the board a male and my view um he's caucasian and then he makes a reference of u why just because you know
he made a a suggestion made set a prayer for Charlie Kirk a young man that I I thought From from experience, I know that I've seen uh I've seen them participate with people that during time
they change their views and their politics and religion so forth. So Mr. Cook was one of those individuals in week time he would see differently what he see now as he sees it from a young man influenced by older people just like
uh when uh uh Trump was a young man who was doomed by door I think it was Richard Doy and told you he gonna make a good president but he was just a young man maybe in the 20s and 30s he makes president now so that that type of individual because
he's openminded and he had good heart he was just in the not involved in the cultural environment that he was accustomed to. Now, Mr. brother has that skill of playing that man where he's a immigrant performer but yet he's coming down on the immigrants
that you find six or seven men uh not American born in a house where it should be uh three or four houses where you got six or seven guys sitting living in there and then uh John is uh not adequate enough money just outside
drinking and so forth. So he has a way of writing where he doubts the city. He makes the city council look bad. I'm not even concerned with the mayor. And uh he has no solution of the main uh main issues why training New Jersey and
America is in the condition it is now. It puts out more than we see Donald Trump as far as getting that money. He's doing he's doing a good job. from a military standpoint, from a social peaceful is is it's bad business. But for a military for security wise, he's
doing an excellent job. Uh I've been both sid l to tighten up and he's going to be an activist. Then attack the system, the overall system that started back with KJA. And then uh Richard Nixon is still going
on today. And um of course we have good politician, bad politician. And the game is played both sides of uh racially. We talk we talk about black and white. It's not black and white. You want black, white, brown, green, yellow. It's about good and evil. It's about good and
evil. Even though Muhammad said himself, he want America for the righteous. He said black. He he raised up the African America 1519 169 1619 up to the level of humanity. from there on in it was their
choice to choose God or not. So it's about righteous and he wanted America for the righteous and Africa for himself. Uh that's my point for tonight. Thank you, >> Cassandra and Marcus Tyson. >> Good evening everyone. So, I uh came here today to discuss um
placing bids for properties. Um I'm currently in one of the properties that's up for bidding, uh 55 San Haven Drive, and my concern is that one, when I came in for information about the bid, um
it it really wasn't explained to me. Some of the questions I had was what's the bid? I was told that uh whatever you want just get the bidden you're the first bid you'll win the bidding. I wasn't never aware that there could
possibility be the the bitten could be uh reviewed based off the uh highest bid. I'm currently in a house. It's a it's a house that my mother had purchased that lost she had lost due to taxes or whatever and we're trying to
keep it. And um we recently had a situation where I was dealing with one of the real estate managers. I'm not going to put the name out there. I have all the emails and stuff, but I'm not I don't I'm not I don't want to put her name out there. Um, she was supposed to get back to me
about a water bill because at the time my mother couldn't pay the water bill because it was sick property. She never got back to me. They cut the water off. I had to jump through hoops to get the water back in. Now we have
the water back on. We're baiting for the property. She's telling me that we possibly lost the bed. She says she already know. I haven't got anything in writing saying that I lost the bed and I I I really have concerns. I feel like the individual who may have too much
power or may be overwhelmed and just not getting back and communicating with people properly. But I think when it comes to placing bids for people that stay in the residence, they should have
first option to purchase. That's not what was told to me. And I have a problem with that. And I like I I don't think it should follow the same rules as a vacant home. So I mean that was my point that I
wanted to say I just wanted to bring it across once again. Good evening. Marcus Tyson and her sister um Teresa Bannister this child. I was just um saying that when we
was going through this, it was real stressful. I took two days off of work about this water bill and um it all came um as my mom passed away. I came straight to the city. I came straight
here. I move into the property and loan and I came straight here. found out who was the business, what I needed to be done, and my sister helped me in following up with situations. A lot of things that we went through, we had to do our homework on. I have a lawyer that
was helping me with this not to break down and I just told my family that I was going to fight for my mom probably, you know. So, it's just >> Yeah, it's been a struggle because we're not lacking on anything. anything
anybody has asked us to do. We've done the almost the next day if not the next day kind of thing. And it's very stressful when someone can sit in their face and say like, "Oh, well, you lost it in and without frustration. I'm like, oh no, like it's not going to be that
easy." I've been dealing and and you knew my the person know my backup. They were included on emails from attorney. So to tell me I lost a bid is a problem. To to tell me to put in a bid for what I
expect, you know, whatever I want and I put a bid in it and then you tell me I lost it because somebody did hire. I have a problem with that. I have a big problem with that. Some of the things you guys are saying tonight, I kind of agree with. There needs to be some kind of range on when you when you're selling
or bidding on a property, how much you should be paying for this. And I also up you also up the bid to try to fight. >> Yeah. Yeah. Like we love the bid and and and the number I put I put out there. I'm seeing people buy four or five
properties. I like what the heck. It's not fair. Like it's stressful. And I don't know if there's other, you know, people out here going through the same thing I'm going through, but I just want to put it out here and let you guys know like
something needs to be looked into. Can you complete your information with Mr. Garcia? >> You know where I am. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Maria,
forgive me with the last name. Shell. Is that Stoy? >> Starky. >> Starky. Thank you. >> You're welcome. Good evening council president. I'm Maria Charles Starky, retired TR police officer from city of Tri. I'm
here behalf of our money that we haven't received for our degrees. I was employ on October 17, 2024 with the same incident, same situation.
We addressed Cland Cherry, assistant VA. Nobody had any answers. Maria Richardson said that she was going to get it done, get it taken care of. Nothing has gotten done.
Officer, Detective Mike Davis, all the officers behind me that are retired. We have called the Treasury. We've called pensions, talked to people. Nothing is received from the city with
our funds. They do not have our money. So, we have been promised that it would have been done in December. The funds would have been sent over. That was 2024 when I stood before you. You were the
president at that time, council. He had no answers. Assistant pro assistant uh VA college and uh sadly Rory Richardson just became the DA at that time. So she had really no idea. So right now we should have some answers.
He's here today. There should be something that they know. Everybody you talk to, they say no, we have no funds. We received our active retroactive money two almost two years ago. When we received that, the rest of it should
have immediately went to pensions. It was never sent over. When we talked to Dwayne Twist Tisdale from Treasury, who handles it, said that once they send the list over and the money, it can be done
in 3 weeks. He's never heard anything. didn't even have a list. We were told by Marie Richardson that it was done, that it's being worked on. It's being worked on. That's all we've heard for the last 2 years. It hasn't been worked on because nothing's done. Everybody we've
spoken to from pensions to treasury. I guess we got to go to the agent. We put in complaints with the city and the state. I mean, how much more can we do? We want our money. We earned it. We worked. We certainly street every day of our lives. We've earned that money. It's
ours. Like I said last year, this even Fox so maybe they could shed some light on it for sitting here and maybe tell us where my money is cuz nobody seems to know. It's not in my bank account and it's not in the news officer's bank account as well. So I have no idea where
to even go from here. Okay, we've talked to PBA cuz we were active at the time. So they too have to represent us. talked to Gary Richardson being worked on the last council meeting we were here me and detective retired detective Davis. She
promised to show us proof that it was sent over. She showed us proof. Okay. But it was it was well it wasn't even it was it was fake. Okay. That what she showed us was $51,000 for new officers. That was the check.
That wasn't our check. Then she showed then I called her office and I said, "You have till the end of the day." I talked to >> John Seagull. I said, "I'm going to an attorney. I'm going to sue our officer
and I want an answer by the end of the day." They faxed over to Officer Davis a spreadsheet with like $363,000 on it that was allegedly supposed to it
was in red. That means it wasn't paid in all zeros. We have all these documentations. I wish I had it for you today. I would be more than happy to give it to you. I have text message. I have emails from them. I have emails from Treasury, emails from the um
pensions that no funds, our money is not there. So where is it? Okay, we nobody knows. But when we talked to Marie Richardson, who's the administrator, she said it's it's being worked on. It's not being worked on because it's not
done. We have the the proof that it wasn't done. So, we did get an answer from Dwayne Twist Twizzale that he was told or he found out that that nothing was sent
over, but it's going to be worked on. So, it's being addressed. Mind you, it's been uh a year since I spoke to the council and like I said, two years in total. He's been retired 5 years. I'm three. This one's four. My husband had a
traumatic brain injury. He was pensioned off. He's four. So, it's enough time. And from what he said, the way he was now that it would be done in two weeks, 3 weeks tops, once he got the money and the list, >> right? Thank you so much for sharing
that. I'm sorry that J will do that and hopefully someone from administration can help address this so that we can see where we are with it. I don't know if anyone would like to talk to you now or not. >> He's right here if you'd like to maybe shed some light on.
>> Thank you. this um principle cherry. Good evening, council president, council vice president, council members. Thank you for all the uh very difficult work
that you do. Uh I just want to say upfront that I denounce any act that takes the life of an individual or individuals uh and separate them from their family or their
loved ones. We should all condemn such acts strongly and loudly. What I want to add though, excuse me, is that city council should not be either
complicit or contributing to the martyrdom, lionization, or celebration of an individual who was hateful, harmful, and hurtful.
And I just want to read you to you a couple of statements from this individual about black people happening all the time in urban America. Proudly blacks go around for fun to go target white people. That's a fact. It's
happening more and more about black pirates. If I see a black pilot, I'm going to be like, "Boy, I hope he's qualified." Black women, they're coming out and they're saying, "I'm only here because
of affirmative action." Yeah, we know. You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person's slot to go to be taken somewhat seriously. Civil rights.
We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the mid60s. Death penalty should be public, should be quick, should be televised. I think at a certain age, it's an initiation. At what age should you start to see public
executions? Empathy. Can't stand the word empathy. Actually, I think empathy uh is a is made up new term that does a lot of damage. uh gate people, you might want to crack
open that Bible of yours in a lesser reference part of the same part of scripture. Uh thou shalt lay with another man shall be stoned to death. Just saying. Great replacement theory. It's not a
great replacement theory. It's a great replacement reality. Just this year, 3.6 6 million foreigners will invade America. 10 to 15 million will enter by the end of president's term. Former president each will probably have 3 to
five kids on average while native born Americans have 1.5. You're being replaced by design. guns is worth is worth to have a cost of unfortunately some gun death every
single year so that we can have the second amendment. Martin Luther King Jr. was awful. He's not a good person. He said one good thing. He actually didn't believe Muslims they aren't even hiding their intentions. Muslims plan to conquer
Europe by demographic replacement. Will you wake up in time? Palestine, I don't think the place exists. Transgender people, you're an abomination to God. Those are the words of an individual
that we as a city body council should not be complicit in or contributing to lionization, martyrdom, or celebration of Thank you. Uh, this name is incursive and I can't
read it, but it looks like a Jaylen. The Jaylen and Julie. Is there a initial JB? Caroline Clark. >> Good evening, council. >> Good evening, Triononians.
Caroline Clark, Riverside Drive, Trenton, New Jersey. So, I would like to first like to thank council people Williams, Harrison, Frisbee, and Vigorola.
I want to thank you for disclosing the meeting and I want to thank you for standing by your positions fullthroatedly. to the other people who were involved in the secret meeting.
Uh it was a secret meeting cuz it was not revealed prior to going. After the fact disclosure doesn't cure it. It was disrespectful
to the other council members and the public to not have informed prior to the meeting would someone who came here, tried to use user power, tried to sell our water
and then to have meetings with him one onone or three onone I think was um I It did not show a level of transparency that I think we are counting on um from
our council who say that they don't support what he's pushing. So that said, you made a comment regarding Congress and the ad hoc committees. I'd like to know if um don't our council members have
individual departments that they are liaons to already. So I'm not sure um how that works or that's different than um it has a committee. But in Congress,
you mentioned you were from Congress, Councilwoman Edwards. Um in Congress we have a body there that represents different states. Here you have one constituent and it's tronians.
So we are not analogous to them in that regard. So I would I have another question. How is this report that um D is offering to pay $3.9 million for? How
do you know how much the report already costs? And if the state is paying $3.9 million for something, what are they getting in return? That cannot be independent.
They've already made their positions clear that they want us to sell. So they're paying $3.9 million for a report to support that. Is that what's happening here? Okay. So with respect to the idea of creating
an authority. So, how is it that you're going to do an assessment of training borders and before that even happens, you are creating an authority. Okay?
Creating an authority does not fix the problems at Trenton Waterworks. It simply insulates them from public scrutiny. I have been in the government space for over 20 years and if I don't know
nothing else, I know when you want to uh decrease transparency, decrease accountability and spend public money, you create authorities. So, let's talk about the train parking authority. You remember what happened with that, right? We just had a problem. We're trying to
the public the parking authority folks there. Lack of transparency, misuse of funds. We can talk about uh the New Jersey School Development Authority. You know what? You all remember the big scandal there, right? Then we can talk
about the EDA, the Economic Development Authority. Another scandal there. We can talk about New Jersey Turnpike. Anywhere that your revenues are going, we need to have elected people in charge
of it. When you move it under an unelected body, you are go, it is a breeding ground for corruption. We already have corruption at Trenton Warriors. We don't need to move it from
Trenton Waterworks to Trenton utility or authority. The corruption is simply going to continue except now we can't hold you guys accountable. That's all that does. What is the difference?
What is the difference between Trenton Waterworks and Trenton Water on Party? Thank you. Thank you, >> Robin. Okay. Robin Vaughn, 1100 Styverson Avenue.
Um, I just wanted to say a couple of things, just comments. I was concerned about the lead service line replacement to hear that there's a multi-million dollar contract to do more replacements
when from this from 2019 to 2021, you know, I save all my documents. It appears that Trenton Waterworks, we allocated $48.7
million to replace 5,200 lead service lines as Miss uh Councilwoman Williams alluded to. Now, I would love to hear at some juncture from Mr. Simple you know all those lead lines
replacement for 51 million for was it 5,200 was that work done that was under directors Dr. Shay, Steven Pico, David Smith, and Mark Lavvenberg. The three contractors that collected
that money were allocated, but South State Construction, Spanelio, uh, Jazz Group, and Petra Gumbla. 50 million. They were all supposed to
replace 5.2 2 million lines across Lawrence, Hamilton, city of Trenton, Yuingi, uh, and yeah, from phase one to phase 2C. So, what's that done? Well, those 5,200
replaced with that 50 million. So, I don't understand why we have another 6.9 million. You know, I don't know what they're doing, but seems very suspect and it should be investigated. And I just want to say there's a lot of dishonest brokers around here. I think
there should be a moratorum on these home sales. If you don't have a director, there's limited powers. There should be limited transactions going on in any city department if you don't have the right of the appointed official
there. Why are these transactions happening? DCA if the interim the director is still there. Everybody knows in government anybody who's appointed to an interim uh position they have limited power. They're not supposed to be
spending money and transacting away assets. So, and I just wanted to say about the LLC thing. Well, everybody knows what happened on 911. The reason why you cannot have an LLC
and you don't have the individual name attached to it, read the US Patriot Act, the Bank Secrecy Act, know your client, know your customer. You can't walk in a bank today. You can't have an asset. You can have an LLC, but it has to have a
name, an address, and you cannot have a post office box. So, and we should be concerned about all these properties. Like Miss Frisbee, Councilwoman Frisbee said, there's a lot of deed and title threat and fraud going on in cities like Trenton.
So, DCA. So, and the other thing is that I wanted to touch on is the lawsuit. I was in court on September 18th with Mr. bridges, who in my opinion went on the
record and violated attorney client linkage. He went to the judge and submitted to the court that he knew that the council was going to pass an ordinance to create an MUA
and to create a regionalized entity. That's what he said. Get the transcript. all the other attorneys. The judge asked Judge Patrick Barl the equity court asked the H the Hamilton attorney, the
Lawrence attorney, attorney uh Copwell attorney and our own attorneys, Mr. uh Wagenbach and Mr. Dow. They're your attorneys. I don't know who Mike is. I don't know what Reed is talking about. Mike, the executive has nothing to do with you guys. You're the board of
directors of Trenton Waterworks. Reed Gussyor has no business meeting with you guys on our border utility. >> Tell them mind his business and he's overstepping his authority. You're the board of directors. You
legislate that authority. If you want anybody to come testify in front of you, you bring them forward. So this is nonsense. So um yeah, I just that's all I really had to say. But West Bridges said that
you are having backdoor meetings and you have already agreed to pay to to pass that ordinance. He told that to Judge Barnes that should be investigated and I will get you that transcript. So are you having backdoor meetings or on
ordinances? >> Thank you very Dina, 615 South Clinton Avenue. Um, my concern is the post office and stuff. Appears everybody in 10 regard handicap
door has since switched plates. >> Could you could you bring the mic down a little bit more cuz I can't hear? Yeah, we can't hear you. There you go. >> Dina B, 615 South Avenue. My concern is the issue with the post office. I wrote
several complaints regarding um that they need handicapped or access switch plates because many times I go there I constantly have to hold the door for those that who have wheelchairs or disables able to walk with interest freely and it appears I'm going to get
no response from nobody and I just spoke to the um the supervisor of the post office also for install these handicap door access switch plates you know when you press on the side of the north. So you're going easily who have come to um
deal with the issue before that a little bit. Um CVP go ahead real quick. >> Hi good evening. Um post office issues are federal issues. You would be able to contact your congress person's office if you didn't train correct that would be
Bobby Watson Coleman if you want to give her a call her office and they can the case workers there constituent services representatives can help you um file something with the post office to get your concerns addressed. >> What's her name? I'm sorry. >> Bonnie Watson Coleman. Do you have a pen
in you? >> No. >> Okay. So, I'll write down phone number and email. Thank you. >> Thank you, >> Madam Madam President. Those are all the individuals I have listed for public comment. You can consider the comment as >> Yes. Thank you. Uh Council Member
Williams. >> Thank you, Council President. Uh so before we begin, I just uh want to say I hope we can rectify what's going on with the police pensions if there any issues. Uh that should have been uh sorted out,
handled by now. Um also, I appreciate Mr. uh Merkel Cherry's comments tonight. I know a lot of folks feel that way and I appreciate that he spoke uh publicly. So I just have minute some announcements and uh a thought at the end. So, uh,
this coming October 15th, Wednesday, it will be the Northward Sisplace Advisory Council meeting at GI Baptist Church, 4:40 MLK. Uh, we're have a special guest will be Trent Police Lieutenant John Harvard from Patrol Administration, who
will be demonstrating how to administer Narcan to save, uh, someone if they're having an overdose incident. So, if you'd like to learn about that, uh we're also hoping to have uh enough Narcan uh for everyone to take home in case they do come across someone in distress. Uh
you can save a life and give someone a chance uh to come back and get healthy, but they only get that chance if they get saved the first time. Um, also there's a need, a terrible need for school crossing guards across our
city and uh, we need to get more to be hired as soon as possible. So there's a big effort from the police department to try to hire more crossing guards. Uh, the pay is $23 per hour. Um, so if you can and you're interested, please apply
at www.trenton.nj.org/job. Again, it's trenj.org/job. Under the heading for police, you'll see uh crossing guards. Uh this coming Saturday, October 11th, there's a lead awareness cookout from 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. at Sunny Marine Park at North
Clinton and Fillmore Street. There'll be games, food, giveaways, lead testing for everybody uh to be tested, and it's important to be tested. uh music and food provided by Amanda's Lack of Cuisine and sponsors are the City of Trent Health and Human Services
Department as well as Eastern Collaborative. On uh also that same day, I'm sorry, on Wednesday, October 15th from 10:00 a.m. to 11:30 a.m. there'll be flu free flu vaccines available at Unity Square Park.
I believe it's provided by Arm and Arm and Task. So, if anyone needs a flu shot, please send them to UV Park on Wednesday, October 15th from 10:00 a.m. to 11:30 a.m. And then, uh, this is coming on a Saturday night. Uh, it's a great party occasion. It's called Can't
Get Enough of the 2000s. Um, so I'm sure we will hear Macarena and a bunch of other songs and do some dancing. That's more Councilwoman Edwards department. She can explain probably. Uh, but that's going to be at the department, oh, sorry, at Cowwater Park from 5:00 p.m.
to 8:00 p.m. and that is sponsored by the great city of Trent Department of Recreation. And, uh, so just some thoughts I wanted to share. Um, I was recently contacted about the, uh, Y, uh, building over on Academy Street. It's really getting, uh,
terrible again with, uh, breakins. It's not being secure. Uh, a lot of drug use, people in need of services. Uh so I'm really hoping uh that we can get uh the city of Trenton uh work with TDA because TDA reached out there Trenton Down
Association. They're very concerned about it to see what can be done to secure the property, get people who are living there, appropriate services to help themselves and make sure that the building's secure hopefully for future development um before maybe a fire
occurs in the winter time. Uh, also, uh, I once said, DCA is not here tonight, uh, they've heard from everybody and they heard from this council, we need help in raising the salaries for Trent Border Works. We need to hire the best and the brightest. And that's only going
to happen if we're allowed to raise the salaries for the people who work there for unpaid unfilled positions that aren't getting filled. As was said in the famous movie, You Have the Power. As far as uh some thank yous, I want to
thank public works department for uh making their way around the city finally to the north ward. It was very great to see that Ohio Avenue and Indiana Avenue are being paid this week in addition to uh Willow Street and Barber Street,
which was terrible for a long time. So, thank you very much for doing that. And uh just want to close uh with the thought that um we're in very very difficult times. I know we go on social media and see a lot of things particularly when it comes to ICE raids
and things that our government is doing um that is not necessarily in our name. But we can't give up. We must have voices. We must vote. We have an election coming up. We also must speak out. >> Counciloman, >> God bless and have a great week. Thank
you, Council President. >> Thank you, Madam President. So, I wanted to address real quickly um some of the comments. I missed some of them. Uh but I do want to say um hatred one um I I'm agreeing with Merkel Cherry. Um has no
place in our society and especially not in our city. It should not be rewarded on any level. Um, second, I do want to uh acknowledge the issue and I don't know all the details of it, but our police pensions
um as they have showed up for us day in and day out, we ought to show up for them. They ought to get they they deserve to get their money and they should not have to come and fight. And this is something that we are it's it's becoming a pattern for us and we've got
to do better. Um, just like we need to receive our pay every week or bi-weekly, they the exact same way. And it should not be that they have to show up week after week and be taken um on the back.
I I just have a problem with that. Um, when it comes to um I should go past that. Um, our water department. I've set my piece on that. I stand where I stand. I do agree that we
should have known about the meeting. Um I don't believe that it was something that was done inclusion to keep something for us. I think it is a misjudgment that was made where we were not made known when there are meetings that are happening on such a large level. Um all of council should be
informed even if all of council cannot be present. Um we this is uh breast cancer aware this month and I ask those of you um women you know who you are who should be getting mamograms you should please go early detection will can save
lives. Uh this is uh for me westward my westward community conversations which are usually usually the second Tuesday of the month. this month because of so much that is going on. It's going to be held on um October the 2nd, I'm sorry, October 13th, which is actually a
Monday, next Monday. Same location, 600 artist at 5:30 at the Trenton West substation. The flyer will be posted um this evening. But um for those who generally come out to our meet, I ask that you would come out. I want to thank also our police uh fire director again
for um coming out and doing that. uh demonstration. We got a lot of great responses to that and hopefully I've heard that my colleagues are going to be doing some of them are going to be doing the same thing in their meetings. I think it is something that we all need to be better informed about. Uh
I believe the city needs to have better compassion. I know that we have rules. I know that there are regulations. But when it comes to our residents, we are here to protect our residents. We have got to do better. Just because we can do something does not mean that we should
do it. And I believe um I'm going to go back to this with the houses again. We have got to show up better for our residents. Um what we don't know, we just don't know. But we need to help educate our community so that we can retain these properties here. There's a
lot going on. And again with the LLC's, people are coming in. I know that they're giving new names just so they can get up the properties here at a ridiculous uh ministry bid. We have got to do better with identifying these people, getting these bad landlords out
of our city and protecting our our treasuries which are our property here and again our waterworks. With that, I believe I am really done. I want to let's see. Oh no, West. Um there's the citywide cleanup. We just had the one
October 4th for the North Ward. This week, this Saturday is the West Ward um cleanup October 11th. Please, West, put all of your recycling out as soon as possible. Um the list is on the city website if you um want to see what you
can put out. South W is October 18th and the East W is October 25th. Um, with that I want to read a portion of the city's mission statement which is recognizing that the people of Trenton have made us guardians of the public
trust. We are committed to govern with integrity and fiscal responsibility to seek excellence in the city's operations and to serve all the city's people with respect and compassion. I take this I take my job very seriously. I thank
everyone for coming out this evening and I pray that everybody gets in get to their home respectively um safely. Thank you. Thanks, Councilman. Council, please not. Thank you, Council President. Good evening, everyone. Thank you for coming out tonight. Thank you for those
that spoke up um and expressed your feelings and views on the various different things that were presented to us. Your voices always matter. Um this job is not easy. never said that it that it was and never
came into it thinking that it would be. Excuse me. We have to make very hard decisions and we try to make the right decisions. I think I can say that for all of us up here. It's never been looked at to try to do anything to miss that. But we're not a perfect people and
I'm not a perfect person, nor do I claim to be. But I am trained. Um, I've tried to govern myself accordingly when dealing with my colleagues, being respectful,
and always looking out for the good of us as a unit because we do move as a unit, even though we serve in our individual capacities. Sometimes things just happen and it's not meant to be malicious or anything.
It just happens. And so, yeah, we went to the the the meeting. I was invited, again, I'mma say it one last time very briefly by CBP to show up. It was her individual meeting. So, couldn't have been looked at a
different way. It could have been looked at a different way, but it was not taken that way. And nothing was done again by myself or council vice president or council president to be sneaky or malicious or anything like that. that is
that is farthest from the truth. No one's here to look to get rid of trend waterworks. And when we talk about the authority or the thought thereof or the possibility, it's just to tell you all we're thinking of something. It's just something look maybe this, maybe it
works, maybe it doesn't, maybe you want it, maybe you don't, maybe we can have it, maybe we can't. But we know that we don't want to get rid of triple water works. We know that we don't want to regionalize it and then just take it from Trenton altogether. So, I'm just
thinking of what it can be. However this turns out, I pray that it's for the betterment and the good of the city. I hope that in the end the right decisions are made, but I can tell you that no decision has been made. I can say that no decision has been made
either way on what it is. That's why there was a resolution of support to say we could look in this direction. We're thinking this way. That that is all that is to say people are like, "Oh, you're sitting on your hands. You're not doing anything." That is that is not true.
That's not true. I ask I ask that you all give us a little bit of grace and a whole lot of prayer. That's what I'm asking for cuz it's not
easy and we don't want to mess this up. And that ain't even political. That's just for the people. I don't want to mess this up. I don't want to get this wrong. I don't want to put my neck out there and then I get slapped in the face behind it because we moved in a
direction that actually hurt and didn't help. I don't think any of us want that. So, with that being said, again, I thank you all for your comments. I thank you for your feelings. I thank you all for showing up. Thank you for showing up and
for holding our feet to the fire about things as well. You got to have thick skin to sit and do this thing. Y'all have equipped me and some of us very well. I thank you for that. I I can move with great precision and uh and little
emotion. I care, but you you toughen me up. And I thank you for that because the fights that we have that you don't see require that that character or that being when we do
talk and go back and forth about stuff. The housing thing, it is a concern. It's been a concern. Right. The way that these LLC's come, it's been a concern. There's a lot of things that we're concerned about that we're holding the administration's feet to the fire about.
I need you to know that nobody is turning a blind eye or a deaf ear to anything. And we do do the best that we can to work for all of you and the betterment of our city. Thank you again for coming out. I pray that you have traveling mercies going on. I ask that
those of you that pray that you just pray for the council and pray with pray for our wherewithal um as we continue forward. Thank you. Um Councilwoman Ferober, if you don't mind, I want to go first and council is going to close out
for me. >> Okay. Thank um so really quickly, thank you everyone for being present. Um and for those who shared their comments, concerns and excuse me and being with us um sharing your thoughts and opinions. Um really
quickly as far as the retirement, I really really hope that that does come. We have a solution for them soon. Um I don't know how it feels to kind of wait on thing that back pay that you've earned. So I hope that that will get resolved very soon. Um, Miss Athena, I
know that um, council vice president explained to you the steps to take with the federal buildings and um, thank you Mr. Cherry for sharing your comments. Um, to everyone else about the water department, um, Councilwoman Feliciano, let me apologize. I didn't mean to cut
you off in the room being disrespectful. It was just get it out because um, you said it very well. Um, this was definitely a meeting that was, you know, uh, arranged by the mayor and CBP, so it was kind of their meeting and we were
invited to. I did ask clarity on it on how did the meeting come about and things like that. Um, and I wanted to be present. I wasn't going to be present. Let me be clear with that. I wasn't going to because it was during work hours, but I decided to go um, with the the notion of being present and
understanding what was going on and what was going to be said. So to that point that is the reason why I attended. I don't know maybe look in hindsight I should have told everyone before I it wasn't my meeting and I apologize if everyone feels like I should have I I'm not perfect and I will make mistakes so
maybe I should have said it prior to um the me meeting taking place or maybe it should have came from those organized it. I I don't know. Maybe I battle with that, but at the end of the day, it was nothing that I did in intentionally to disregard any of my council members. Um,
once the meeting was had, it was a late day, so I did speak to I was on the phone with Councilman Harrison till about 11:00, 11:30 that night talking about the meeting. So, it wasn't that I wasn't trying to inform everyone. I did inform him um late that evening. And then of course later on today, I spoke
to some of our to the rest of council and gave them a briefing as to what occurred cuz I didn't want anyone to think it was something that we were trying to hide. And I was going to address it publicly after we got through the ad hoc uh resolution. Just to put that out there. There's nothing that I'm
trying to keep as a secret. Um everything that we do, we try to do in the best interest of the city and I stand firmly on. I don't agree with anything regional regionalization at all. um whether it's authority or not, I don't think we're at that point yet. And
that's just me. Um my personal opinion, I don't want to see anything that has to do with other people coming and trying to take or have any part in this um train water department. Um and I'm just going to leave it right there. Um thank you all for being here this evening. I
do want to run going to take some medicine a little bit. Thank you, CDP. Councilwoman Fero Keeper. >> Thank you. Um, thank you guys again. I apologize for not being present. Um, myself and my son are under the weather
tonight. Um, I just a really quick couple of things. Um, I want to thank again Parks and Recreation and Director Paul Travers for his work and the Chesaw Park, Pat Park. um you know, for allowing me to have a
meeting, having the meeting with me and and having the community address as to what we want done with that property and also for Foundation Academy for being a part of that, a partnership with that um so that we can, you know, get that park um
up to standards um for the community uh for the safety of our children. So, I really want to thank them. I don't know um if director men is in the audience tonight, but I just want to thank him for two um issues that were had over the last few days involving a dog being
adopted um and also the kittens that were surrendered to the um shelter. I want to thank him so much um for his efforts um for getting the things done and he get done in order and I hope that you know moving forward we can get this
shelter running um in accordance how it should be running um and you know hope we can hit the ground running with a breeding ordinance moving forward. Um other than that I also wanted to um speak to the Tyson family who came and
spoke. Um, again, this is my issue with the ordinances involving property sales. Um, you know, I don't feel like anybody should be asked, "What do you want to pay for a property? What do you want to give for a property?" I feel like um
we should be um having market value and notifying market value of these properties and you know having that market value and then you know whatever the bid is whatever comes closest to market value um you know
should be the winning bid um on some of these properties. I just again I it's I expect there to be rhyme or reason you know the ordinance 25123 um those are all south properties um street those are properties that need to be purchased that I would love to be
purchases purchased um and rehabbed and again but these are all LLC's with there's so much uncertainty when it comes to properties being um put out there and and sold to and purchased by LLC's um unfortunately
Um, moving forward, I just want to say Southboard um, clean up again. It's our second annual. We always do such a great job with South Ward. Saturday, October 18, 2025. And our next Southboard CPAC will be on
Dece um, October 22nd at St. Bartholomew Church at 1746 South Clinton Avenue. Please come out, voice your concern, um, continue doing what you're doing. Be blessed. Thank you guys for being there. Again, my apologies for not being present and you all have a wonderful
evening. Um, lastly, myself. Good evening, everyone. Um, this was definitely an eventful meeting. I want to say thank you to everyone that came out. Um, I'm sorry to hear about some of the issues that, uh, some of the residents are
dealing with with the properties. And um just to say to the the siblings that came in here that are residing in their late mother's um former property that she owned already send off an email and CC the rest of council so we can all be
in the know what exactly is going on and on that note revisiting the uh formally requesting from the chief of staff Mr. beach as he said earlier to start the ad hoc committees again for H and I would
like for us to and Councilwoman Feliciano and uh and Williams for us to review these property sales before they come onto the docket. Um and of course including LLC ownership verification. That's definitely a good
one. So, um, hopefully we'll see some progress with that, some improvement going forward considering everything that Council Member Fero Cutting Bark has expressed her very valid concerns about as well. Um to the retired police
officers, I'm so sorry you guys have to keep coming in here and I promise you this council is doing their due diligence and following up with the administration to make sure that your pension increases and as well as the back pay will be paid out to the state
so it can be sent to you. I want to talk about Trenton Ward works and and close my comments out on that note. the ad hoc committee. Um I I'm very taken aback by some of the the
aggression here today, but uh some of the concerns. I understand everyone's point of view um and perspective, but I understand that there are room for there
is room for improvement for me with communication. I did not think that I needed to tell the entire council that I had requested a meeting from with the D commissioner because we are individual council members though
we are a collective. No decision would be made without the collective. However, we all have the prerogative to have meetings with whomever we need to for our own educational purposes so that we can make a decision with the collective
body. Now, when I asked for that meeting and the commissioner offered uh to join meetings with the mayor, I did oblige and I did um at get asked for my advice
on whether other council members or council should be attending the meeting and I said I would definitely prefer that and I would and I recommended the two for the reasons I mentioned earlier. There was no intent to disregard anyone
else. There was no intent to represent this entire council body as a whole at the meeting. The meeting was purely educational purposes and just and for the sake of time and for us to be on the same page, he included the mayor. Now,
that was his choice. I accepted that um for a joint meeting. Again, this was not an ad hoc committee meeting. An ad hoc committee was not formed, was not decided was this is not solid or set in stone. I'm introducing
the ad hoc committee resolution that I introduced at the beginning of the year that I attempted to a month ago as well for us to address these issues. It's not like a divide and conquer kind of thing. But the purpose of committees is to to
move progress along a little quicker so that we don't have to always have a quorum and have to have special meetings and have to go through the whole entire long process of this. Now, I understand from a different standpoint uh where
that could be seen as the rest of the council is excluded, but that was never my intentions. And I want to apologize for anything, any inconvenience, any type of misperception or any ill feelings that I may have created in this
process that and originally the meeting was supposed to be tomorrow. I plan to tell council, but it happened so quickly with the change that I did not have time to. Now, I felt like having the meeting yesterday ahead of the meeting today
would have been good for us to at least be able to come back to council with what we had a conversation about and catch you all up together. >> And vice president, that is your time. >> Okay, I'll finish out 10 seconds. But I definitely
fully intended to have the conversation today. It was never a secret meeting. It was never something that you were never going to know about. So whether cuz I didn't have time to call. I'm in class. I'm in work. It's just I'm all over. So forgive me. I'm asking for grace. I'm
asking for forgiveness. But moving forward, I would do my due diligence to make sure this council is fully informed. even when I send an email, I will CC you all so that there are no type of misperceptions of any nefarious
or frivolous or sneaky dealings. And on that note, have a good night. I hope that we can continue to move this city forward collectively and on a good foot. Have a good evening. Mr. Garcia. >> Yes. Uh, Madam Vice President, if you
want to ask for a motion to adjourn. I have a motion to adjourn. Move second. >> Thank you. Roll call. Vice President Edwards. >> Yes. >> Council. >> Yes. >> Council. >> Yes. >> Council woman.
>> Yes. >> Council Harrison. Council Williams. >> Yes. >> Council President. Oh, excuse me. President Gonzalez's exit. Motion carrying journal. >> Okay. Down.